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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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>>163703632
Most heroes that gotta go fast would benefit more from eul's.
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>>163703608
nice christmas pic you dumb nigger
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Third for KOTL is OP
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>christmas day
>it's fucking raining
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today, I will razor.
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>>163703980
lol get poop'd on, kid
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Alright /d2g/,
25 agility or -2s blink?
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Link to Sajdene sex tape?
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Link to Sajdene sex tape?
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Sheever @SheeverGaming
Hope everyone has a good Christmas Day no matter how you spent it!!
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alright fags
teach me how and when to rubick
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>>163704163
Haha, shiet if I inow nigga, damn! Haha! Shiiet. Depends on the game I guess? Haha, shieet son, haha how would I know haha? Shiet haha mang haha i dont know haha!

Haha! Damn mang like 3 sec blink cooldown haha sounds pretty good haha! But haha! Damn haha! Gotta say 25 agi sounds pretty good too. Haha! But at the same time, 3s blink cooldown is pretty good. Haha! I'd say you can get the cooldown if they've got no way to stop you from blinking Haha! Haha! So haha! Then you can escape easily and do anything you want in fights. Haha! If they've got roots and shit and stuff you could get agi. Otherwise haha, the cooldown haha!!! reduc is better haha!
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>>163704190
not bad but where's the cheese
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>>163704330
u wot
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>>163704330
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, /d2g/!
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>>163704163
by the time you hit 25 you should already have an array of items that give you all the offensive advantage you need

on the other hand, the later stage of the game is much more lethal, and having -2s cooldown on blink can make or break your escape or chase, specially if you consider how that seemingly minor cooldown difference starts adding up in a fight, rat or chase
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>>163703803
nice christmas you dumb loser

>>163703980
>christmas
>not snowing
3rd world country
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>>163703980
I turned on my AC today
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>enemy Meepo goes 16-2
>level 25 at 26 minutes

>3k MMR

fucking boosters
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>Decide to play some Arc Warden
>You have to be ahead to not be shit
>You have to itemise perfectly
>You have to make sure your team can start fights so your clone can kill off backliners
>Also you have to win your lane

And even then you don't guarantee you win, you just make it like a normal hero.
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Q: Create a radius 400 force vortex that pulls enemies 100 units towards its center, then a radius 150 spike erupts, stunning and dealing damage.
W: Drains life from the surroundings, dealing damage divided evenly among all enemy units in a 900 radius around you and healing you by that much. The cooldown is halved if your mana pool is over 50% full.
E: Shares your fortitude with nearby allies, granting 15%/20%/25%/30% damage reduction and 10% missing HP regeneration. The bonuses are reduced by 10% for every 10% HP you are missing.
R: Generic long range jump that slows in an AoE. But like really long because it's an ultimate.
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>Decide to play some Earth Spirit
>You have to be ahead to not be shit
>You have to itemise perfectly
>You have to make sure you start fights perfectly so your team can followup
>Also you have to win all the lanes

And even then you don't guarantee you win, you just make it like a normal hero.
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>steam friend links me to reddit's dota thing
>there's literally a suicide prevention thing at the top of the page

Literally can not make this shit up.
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>>163705175
Just feed yourself your Tempest Double's moonshard, they still haven't patched it yet.
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>>163703980
minnesota actually
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>>163704330
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WHERE'S BARNY
WHERE THE FUCK IS HE WHERE HAS HE GONE WHY DID HE ABANDON US!!!!!!!!
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merry Kumimasu /d2g/, did you spend time with your family?
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>>163705739
he told me privately that he was unable to stream for long hours because every time futa was mentioned in his chat he would have an uncontrollable urge to masturbate
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>>163705739
barnyy's a literal fucking nobdy retarded shitter these days
literally less relevant than generic nadota pubbers
why do you care so much about him
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>>163704330
a new meme is born
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>>163705780
I spent time with your family, haha, my wife's son.
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>>163706074
didn't he have to ban futa or something? I forget but it was something pretty funny having to do with it
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>>163705780
merri kurisumasu maut
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>>163706110
Get the FUCK out of here you fucking FAGGOT who the FUCK do you think you are, talking about Our Lord And Savior like that
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>>163704330
>>163704413
>>163704516
>>163705673
>>163706168
>samefagging AND being from reddit

Fucking sad, kill yourself gremlin.
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Homing Missile mana cost reduced to 70/80/90/100
Base armor increased by 2.
Starting INT increased by 2.
Movement speed increased by 5.
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>>163706337
>>163706337
>>163706337
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>>163705780
Yes, and now I want to be fucking rid of them so I can be in comfort
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>>163706601
ugh I know right, stupid parents just don't get us kids!!!!

#schoolsout #noparentsallowed
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"Maining" is frowned upon but if I play too many heroes I don't think it'll help in the long run to be slightly less mediocre at all of them.

So how many should I focus on playing? 2-3 per role?
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>>163706993
>mfw I play luna or sf every game
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New hero :

Zeroth, The Veiled One

Agi, Meele

Skill 1 : Faded Steps
Initiate "Walk" Mode. Cuts maximum speed to 285 and ignores bonuses while granting invisibility.
Bonus damage triggers before first attack.
No cooldown.
Can be used while channeling an ability.

Passive bonus damage : 10/20/40/60
Bonus damage duration : .5/1/1.5/2
Duration : Infinite
Fade time : .15

Skill 2 : Incision
Tracks the target's location then slowly floats in the air with the strong gusts of wind then disappears and attacks the target from behind.
After attacking, Zeroth returns to his last position.
If Zeroth is damaged while attacking the target, he is unable to return.

This attack never misses.
Grants 100% Damage resistance while floating.

Flight duration : 1
Disappearance Duration : .15
Damage multiplier : 200%

Cooldown : 16/12/8/4

Skill 3 : Infection
Shoots an infected arrow on the target that reduces target's armor for 1 attack.

Armor reduction : 8/11/13/15
Damage : 75
Range : 600
Duration : 8
Maximum infection stack : 2

Cooldown : 18/14/10/6

Skill 4 : Blood Rain
Shoots an arrow an arrow in the air. Upon reaching the skies, it scatters and creates 1 shot for every unit around Zeroth while applying "Infection".
Damage dealt is equal to Zeroth's damage.
Infection is applied before dealing damage.

Scatter delay : .77
Damage multiplier : 80%/90%/100%
Self damage : 150/200/250

Cooldown : 40/25/10
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>>163706993
>per role

It gets to the point where you play a role and just play heroes relevant to that role instead of trying to be better at a pool of heroes.

Why learn to be a mediocre carry/mid/support/offlane when you can learn to be a good X and recognize all heroes that are suited for that role in whatever draft you need.
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How do I play KotL vs LIFESTEALER, TEMPLAR ASSASSIN, BEASTBASTARD AND UNDYING?
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baby cuck syndrome
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Ender, the Land Master

Heavenly Palm, Active Q -
>Ender strikes the earth, raising a pillar of terrain by 1 level within a 425 AoE for 3/4/5/6 seconds and deals 100/150/200/250 damage. The terrain applies all elevation differences such as vision, high-ground evasion and fog of war. The pillar can connect to similar level terrain. Destroys trees.

Battleground, Passive W -
Ender gains bonuses depending on the elevation of his terrain.
>In the River he gains increased movespeed by 4%/6%/8%/12%
>On the first level after he gains increased attack damage of 10/15/30/55
>On the second level he gains increased vision of 400/600/800/1000
>On the third level he gains increased armor of 10 at all levels and 12% increased magic resist.

Land Walker, Active E -
>For 8 seconds Ender strides across the land causing the earth to shake in a 250 AoE around him dealing 75/100/125/150 damage every 125 units he crosses.

Hammer, Active R -
>The Land Master proves his name and strikes the ground with his godly hammer, leveling all terrain within a 500/1000/1500 AoE for 16 seconds while also dealing 175/225/325 damage. All effects of Battleground become active on this new land.

Aghanim's Scepter Upgrade -
>Hammer is now a global ground targeted ability.
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zeroth the reddit one
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>>163706993
You should be able to play at least ten heroes adequately.

Keep in mind that you don't NEED to counter in trench tier, but it can make matches immensely easier. Enemy Pudge actually has decent aim? Undying and Visage will happily take him in a fight. PA, Slark and Blood in every game? Try Wraith King.
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our girl is streaming
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>>163707278
You don't care because it's not your job to go head to head against them.
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>>163707161
this hero feels like edgy animeme hit and run type of guy
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Nice patch, dotards.
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>tfw going up on mmr because of the new hud

thanks based gaben, I'll be dropping 50$ on hats as a thanks
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>>163705292
He goes by Slarknigmophus and he's
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>>163707278
Ghost scepter and a tp scroll.
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>mrw Super Smash DotA 7 patch is here to stay
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>tfw Adelaide isn't here on Christmas
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fuck george michaels
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPGxkKii1Zg

merry christmas /d2g/

some solid advice in this vid, courtesy of /gif/
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>>163706601
>4 Christmas dinners
>4 days in a row
>In 3 cities roughly 2 hours from each other
>When I finally get back to my apartment a guest is over for 2 days
A full week without a minute to myself
Kill me please
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HOW do people lose to pudge mid?

how???
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>>163708479
hopefully it got perm banned
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>NICE FUCKING GAY PATCH VOLVO

dotards?
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>>163708886
Autistic one-track mind focused on getting last hits instead of positioning.
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>>163708479
>the basement dweller had to get out of his avatar fagging to attend the Holiday

I hope he chokes on the tender
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>>163705453
>earth spirit
>itemise perfectly
>have to be ahead to not be shit
git good you scrub. ES needs no gold, he only needs exp. the only items ES needs are force staff and urn, others such as veil and blink are considered luxuries. also, it is better for ES to counter-initiate rather than being the main initiator for your team.
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>>163708479
Adelaide is with me right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpnG1NZdDgo
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>>163709187
Damn did you write that song yourself?
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>>163705453
>implying
ES is the best fucking hero to play when you are losing, his chain stun grantees any kill, and his ult is a huge hg defense, you are just a bad at the game
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>>163709350
>>163709156
retards
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>get zoned out of lane
>TP to shrine on other side of map
>heal up and gank that lane
If you succeed at doing this it's almost guaranteed to make the enemy tilt.
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>>163709429
You totally debunked those statements anon, just like /pol/
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>>163709490
read the thread retard
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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
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I hope you aren't still building damage items on Ember dotards
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>>163709429
gee, you totally showed me how retarded I am.
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>>163709490
>>163709752
You replied to a post making fun of someone else, you dumb shits.
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>be melee
>enemy laner is ranged
>they can hit you
>but you can't hit them
???????
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>>163709748
nice artifacts you dumb fag
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>>163710005
>not spending the first ten minutes of the game annoying the enemy with right clicks
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>>163703980
it rained in Goodeurope today
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>>163710218
>tfw harassing offlaner out of XP range as Oracle with Drow aura
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>>163709748

Really now, can't we all just get along here? There are two equally farm vacuum ways to lose with ember now instead of 1. That is progress.
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>>163706993
maining is only "frowned upon" as disinfo by people who want to keep others from finding out it is the most effective way to grind MMR
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Who's George Michael?
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>>163710513
Dazzle.
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>>163710769
what compels you to go onto the internet and tell lies
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is lich good or bad

>>163710513
some homosexual no name who
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>>163706993

My versatility stat is at NINE POINT THREE (9.3) and I'm going to immediately ignore every other shitters' opinion about this unless their vers is over nine.
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>>163707393
Lore wise this is basically Elder Titan but aside from that this is literally impossible without MASSIVE mechanical reworks to the entire game engine.
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>>163710969
Mine is at 3.6 despite randoming every single game because Dota has decided that random should only pick from a pool of 5 heroes 90% of the time.
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>>163709126
I feel like EE would be the type of anime autist who would lose to Pudge mid
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>called lone druid
>fights alongside a bear
checkmate dotards
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>>163711404
the bear is like a physical manifestation of his autism or something
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>>163711404
they are the same person
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>>163711404
it's not really a bear, just his tulpa
he's actually truly alone
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>queen of pain

>Is actually garbage of pain

Checkmate dotards
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>>163710218
>>163710362
Half the reason I still play unranked is because of the endless memebuilds you can make with this cheeky cunt.

Why are his right click so good? His BAT and range are literally better than most carries.
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>>163710468
What's point of gaining mmr if you're not getting good at the game?
You will hit a plateau at some point so you might as well do it with playing different heroes instead of playing one.

PPD has the mechanical skill of 3k player but can play a variety of heroes from cuck support to carry in 7k mmr range.
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>>163711521
>tulpa
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>>163712083
On top of this, don't people find it boring to play the same hero over and over again? Even if it wasn't a huge advantage to be able to play heroes that counter enemy picks, it would still be more fun to approach each game differently.

I've seen tons of people with versatility score of 0.02, and they always make their pick instantly. How in fuck's name can you not get tired of playing PA every match?
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>>163711720
some 8k guy said qop was good
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>veil euls ember
wat
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>>163712117
Is something the matter, anon?
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>>163712378
It's fun to get really good at one toon

Knowing them backwards and forwards, and just being able to do everything on instinct is relaxing
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>>163712083
>>163712378
Some people like different things in video games. I'm like you, I like learning games and mastering my skills. However, a lot of people like winning and only winning. So they will find a strategy that will help them do that easiest. A lot of these people get stuck in low MMR doing the same shit day to day, because they once managed to get a win streak with that one strategy. You'd think: "What a fucking miserable life they must lead", but they probably enjoy it.
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Reminder that Valve has been STEALING ideas from League of Legends for years.

Corki came out before Gyrocopter.
Axe's ultimate having no cooldown on kill comes from Darius dunk.
Monkey King and his four attack passive come from LoL.

Shrines come from HotS
Talents come from HotS
Skeleton King comes from HotS
Puck, Windrunner, Ogre Magi.
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>want to play dota
>cannot commit to 30-50min game of trying to carry some randoms

What do dotards

Any games you play when you don't feel like dota?
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>>163713012
(You)
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>>163713012
>Mobas are incestuously stealing from each other constantly, but it should only be one way: valve shouldn't be allowed to take good ideas from anyone else
Why do dotards constantly wish there game was worse?

I just hope they steal something like the two-player hero next
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>>163713012
Don't forget vs screen comes from Overwatch and balance changes come from reddit.

Can valve come up with one idea or do they just steal from everyone else?
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>>163713197
All random has better chances of giving you less shitters in the game.
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>>163713012
Not to mention like 90% of the character models are stolen from Warcraft.
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>>163713242
>two-player hero

that's literally the dumbest thing I've seen
it's not like one person couldn't play a guy with 8 spells or 15 spells or 4.
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Artour Babaev @Arteezy 15m15 minutes ago
Merry Christmas
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>>163713197
I queue anyway

This method works for everything
>too depressed for dota
queue anyway
>too much rl stuff going on
queue dota
>don't want to play
Q U E U E A N Y W A Y
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>>163713197
play with friends :^)
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>>163713384
You misspelled funnest
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>>163713416
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Cd reduction currently broken (on gyro atleast only one i tested) on charge based abilities. With octarine and cd reduction talent homing missle has a 12 second cd per charge when lvl 25 missle talent taken
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>Dotards will never get good skins
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>>163713406
This sounds like a literal addiction, anon
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Is Lina THE most balanced, flexible, fun and viable hero in the game?
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>>163713384
These are people that think using what is basically a Morph Hybrid is intense pro micro. Don't give them too much credit.
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>>163713524
Dota is like the fedora of mobas desu lad. There's this sort of misplaced sollemnity in everything they do.
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>>163713197
Play Heroes of the Storm.
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>>163713461
post the webm

>>163713396
thanks artour
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>>163713524
valve's jewish loot crate system they made with tf2 will ruin every single of their games
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>>163713620
So long as you just go strait for the right click build and forget about all that raindrop bait filler then she is.
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dotards?
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>>163713806
>she's the most flexible hero in the game only if you use this one build

mwek
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>>163713620
Most flexible hero is SF or NP.
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>>163713865
You can either sacrifice flexible or balanced, fun, and viable.
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Most flexible hero is Medusa. You can build any random garbage on her and win because her skills scale with literally everything.
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>Chilling out in the hero select after selecting hero
>"Oh man this item looks really cool"
>$200.00 on the market
>"What the fuck"

>Look it up
>"This item was obtainable by purchasing a limited edition figurine at the Chinese Qualifiers for The International 2014"

What the fucking shit. Thanks Valve.
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>>163713524
Listening to idiots' MUH LORE and MUH STYLE GUIDE crippled Dora's cosmetics
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>>163714178
mad cuz poor
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>>163713843
>dotard is a game programmer now
jus tshut up you fucking nerd and play the fucking game, people reached 6k mmr in 2014 with maximum 30 fps and 1280x720 screens
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>>163714002
I remember a pro once said that Icefrog balanced the entire game of Dota around Shadow Fiend.

That time might have passed though.
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>>163714167
What if you build linkens manta?
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>>163714178
link to item
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>>163714237
didn't Fear play on a borrowed 1240x720 CRT monitor
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Does CLQ browse /d2g/?
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do tards will de fend

their edgy de mons
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>>163714178
>Chilling out at the art gallery after selecting a gallery to go to
>"Oh man this painting looks really cool"
>$4500.00 asking price
>"What the fuck"

>Ask the curator
>"This art piece was painted by the artist during a 5 month trip to China in 2014"

What the fucking shit. Thanks Valve.
>>
any advice for learning earth spirit? I like playing him but he has such rough starts man.. You need levels but can't farm or solo kill people.

What is the proper way to play him? People tell me to just not play earth spirit because the only person who can play him good is jerax apparently.
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>>163714742
just play greedy pos4 fag

oov
rolling boulder lv1 9/10
roll mid and fuck that lane up, you're a discount pudge early on

secure runes and just keep helping your lanes out, don't sit in a lane unless you're pushing
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>>163714742
>carry TP scroll and soak EXP
>go and sit by bounty rune as it spawns
>grab it and TP to the other rune and grab that one as well
>head back to lane to soak more EXP

BAM Free levels and gold
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>>163714896
t. 3k mmr
>>
>when the forced fifty kicks into overdrive
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>>163714742
>People tell me to just not play earth spirit

you shouldn't give up because others say so, but he IS pretty much the hardest hero in the game. most 5ks can't even play him very well

microing the statues is on a whole level above birds or meepo clones
>>
How do I make friends?


I am exhausted of playing alone
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>>163715304
play nyx make friends
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>>163715304
dont bother
dota is a dead game
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>>163715304
Be nice to people you encounter while playing and add them to your friends list, 1 out of 10 may accept to play whit you and if you are not a piece of garbage they will stay.
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>>163715421
Was this the day overwatch launched? It hasnt had that may viewers in a long time lmao
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7acf_u1INw

This bumps my heart rate so much
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Why the fuck does EE only listen to Reol?
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>>163714237
mmr is relative tho
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why the fuck is aghs kardel so fuckin LOUD
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who else hasnt played since patch release?

this update sucks desu senpaitachi (((
>>
Anyone have an updated ward spot map for 7.x? It seems like all the spots that aren't marked on the ground are suboptimal because everything is corridors now and they give shit for vision
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>>163716545
I haven't played since September ;^)
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>>163716676
>he still wards on cliffs

the best warding spots now block a camp
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>>163716545
i didnt until yesterday or so
its pretty good you can carry with anything if you get a good start

once got 4 kills with rubick in first 3 minutes (i had drow aura) bought threads dragon lance took the 50 damage meme tree and rightclicked niggers to death
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NEVER FORGET
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have you ever try lycan with mom basher and bkb?
lol hillarious as fuck,you cant outrun me,you cant man fight me you cant do shit haha
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>>163717391
>lina Zap
>dead wolf
?
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>>163717506
haha that zap feel like tickle when you have 4k hp
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Why does every game need a scapegoat. Every defeat is always like, one person's fault according an average toxic pub scrub. What the fuck is the point of all this finger pointing?

Every match at around 20 minute mark someone always says something that will coalescent into a big pile of verbal diarrhea shit.
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>>163717652
People can't fathom the fact that they got outplayed by their enemies, thus they blame someone else for everything.

People rarely want to admit their mistakes, even to themselves.
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>>163717284
I still have my broken TB effigy and a broken timbersaw one
I wonder how rare these things are at this point
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>>163717652
>leave your carry alone against a dual lane
>don't buy a single ward whole game
>don't create space
OMG NOOB CARRY NO FARM GG REPORTE
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>>163717892
this, idek how i still play this game or if i even get enjoyment out of it
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>>163717892
stop playing carry then
play JUNGLER
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>this EE stream

Can someone explain why Veil is viable on Ember now
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>watching EE
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>d2g complains about reddit balancing the game
>can't actually point out when this has happened

Do you guys even know why you hate reddit?
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>>163718694
He's going to go Octarine next and pull off a perma-root with spamming searing chains. Hence the magical damage incremental.

Welcome to League of Dota.
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>sf aghs totals 46 souls
>that's +92 damage
>get to level 20
>you get +184 damage plus 10 from the agility it gives
>not to mention requiem gets bonus damage and HEALS on souls return

WHY IS NO ONE BUYING THIS ON HIM?
>>
why is 3k so chaotic

>no one knows how to trilane support
>jungler every game
>people who refuse to dual offlane but insist on jungling
>last pick is a shit pick for something stupid
>instapick mids/carry lane icons
>4 cores 1 support - rarely ever 2 actual supports
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Ilexa the Cute

Q - Mystical Sword
A sword made from the bark of a holy tree.
Single target nuke that deals enemies and heals Ilexa for 120/150/200/250.

W - Look at me!
Ilexa stabs enemies with her holy sword.
Taunt spell that if it taunted 3 or more heroes it will provide Ilexa 120/150/200/250 additional HP for 5 seconds. 450 cast range (same as lvl 2 burrowstrike)

E - <insert skill name here>
Passive skill that increases Ilexa's Attack and Defense by 0.2/0.3/0.5/1% of her current HP.

R - Mystical Shield
A shield made from the bark of a holy tree.
Ilexa lifts her shield and it attacks all enemies within its range (same as W) for 100 damage and decreases damage from enemy attacks by 1/2/2.5% for her and all allies within the range.
Last for 5 seconds.

thoughts?
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What do I get first on Tiny? Echo Saber or Aghs?

No I won't build ring of repick
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>>163718924
Blink dagger so you can blow people up and stun reliably with your combo of course.

Then Aghs
Then Echo Sabre to make your Cleave/Grow actually matter.
>>
Enjoying your game ASSFAGGOTS?
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>>163719090
>Blink dagger so you can blow people up and stun reliably with your combo of course.
Yea I meant after I got Blink Dagger. Thanks.
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>>163718615
Are you kidding me, that's an even easier way to get reported.
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Nice UI, dotards.
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>people who pick jungle
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>>163717892
Don't play carry if you're paired with a 4stack. They will have extremely large expectations from you.
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>>163717284
>>163717854
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>>163718694
because valve made a needless change to cleave because le farming is toxic xd need constant action!!!
so caster ember is way more viable than anything else now
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>>163719287
I've been having success with pos 4 utility Bloodseeker who starts in the jungle and is just constantly ganking after 6.

I wish retards would stop rushing Dagon on him.

Blademail + Euls + Aghs is where it's at.
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>>163719363
>because valve made a needless change to cleave because le farming is toxic xd need constant action!!!
Didn't they change it to make more sense? It was a circle before and now it's a cone.
>>
>>163719312
>They will have extremely large expectations from you.
So how is that different from a game without stacks?
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>>163719213
why?
jungle cm for 2-3 mins
came out as lvl 4-5 to start gank
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>spending Christmas watching EE stream with his weeaboo music
wouldn't want to spend it any other way
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>>163719363
Cleave barely changed though, it's now a cone with pretty much the same area - the Ember change to his SoF was actually good because it randomly placed him around the target.

That said caster Ember is because his talents are clearly made to abuse his abilities and high magic damage potential.

>15% spell damage amp - one of the highest spell amp talents, on Ember
>15% CD reduction
>2+ Searing Chains, 100% uptime with Octarine, 500 damage chains OR a super reliable Flameguard that will absorb 1000 magic damage
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>>163719517
You could be watching Mira stream instead.
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>>163719436
Stacks will look at you as the odd-one-out obviously. Friends don't really care if their friends suck. With a more separated team you're not the only one taking all the blame at least.
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>>163719571
literally who
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>>163719392
A GOOD Jungler will actually gank.

Most retard Jungles will AFK farm, consume Shrines early and take all the runes thus crippling the offlane, midlane and safelane all at the same time.

>no one to roam and actually fix lanes
>act surprised when lanes are shit and you lose
>>
>>163719451
Yes cm can jungle, but she is hardly the first hero people think of if you say jungler, you might as well said play cm.
>>
the fuck is this memebuild
>>
>tfw no our boy stream on christmas
I know he streamed christmas eve, but I just want to be spoiled ;-;
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>>163719670
tfw I'm the guy who jungles and use the shrine selfishly.
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>not watching our guy moon
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how the fuck do i build ogre magi his spells are shit
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>>163719684
He just lost because no damage
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>>163719684
Why is the map so bright now?
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>>163719624
Our girl.
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that feel when no nyx gf
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>guess that hero
also is it even possible to get past 5.0 farming? that's the highest i've gotten- even with a 13 minute bf on carries.
>>
>win mid
>gank safe
>carry doesnt farm
>offlane doesnt roam
>lose game
dotards?
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>>163719684
who the fuck started this stupid meme build? is it the Russians again?
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>>163719670
>getting mid tower ganked by an enemy blood seeker
>as invoker
>ice wall
>icesnap
HAHAHAHAHA LAUGHINGORBS.JPG
No seriously he got me the first 2 times because it was completely unexpected so props to him.
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>>163719978
Envy is a russian now? Now he really baffles me.
>>
>>163719902
>>163719903
>>163719978
hes 15-6 retards. the build works.
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>>163719684
wtf is that build? Does he go in with flame guard on, pop veil and then just cyclone around doing "mad damage" with that aura?
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Is the creep aggro mechanic still the same since 6.7x?
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reminder if you would not do this you do not belong here
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>>163719961
teehee, why doesn't anyone ever green text about games where they play shit and get carried?

Is it because you have a natural bias towards your own skill in the game and think you can do no wrong?

Do you believe every win in Dota you've deserved it and when you lose it's your TEAM's fault?
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>>163720047
>envy is a russian now
are you retarded? that stupid ember meme build has been around for like 3 days now.
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>>163720115
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Lane_creeps#Balance_changelog
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Neutral_creeps#Balance_changelog
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>>163720106
The Euls is to clearly to dispel Global Silence and is much cheaper than a Manta.

Meme-magic damage seems to be the build on Ember now because he has talents that support it.
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>>163719849
Since you asked...

>get phase and OoV
>rush blink or shadow blade
>go orchid for maximum dps
>if they expect you to support, tell them to fuck off and get kills
>go battlefury if you have luxury
>get heart for that extra tankiness
>>
Name a more fun midlaner than TA. Protip: you can't
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>>163720526
shadow fiend
>>
>>163720526
>>163720526
PUDDIN' POP.
>>
Why does Monkey King popping his ult ruin my FPS for the rest of the session
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>>163720637
It's a beta.
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>>163720526
OY FRESH MEAT
>>
>>163720637
TI5 just ended.
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>>163720590
The new root mechanics really fucks Storm though.
>>
>>163720753
>>163720753
Name a constant pick with roots.
I've only seen rod built on Skywrath and silencer. >>163720729
>taking pudge mid anymore
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>>163720526
invoker ember storm ta pa are all fun
>>
valve fucked this game so hard
i want to cry because they ruined one thing i love in this shit life
>>
>>163719684
Magic damage ember is pretty legit now, but not in that situation. It's more ideal against heroes that get crippled by roots
>>
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Unreleased_content

Is there anything here you want, /d2g/?
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>>163720925
yea a good game
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>>163720925
The courier invulnerability from old DotA
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>>163720925
Aw shit I remember this
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>>163720925
I want my DELETED content back

>Fantasy Leagues
>Remake system - as in you can take a replay file and jump into the game from a designated time, this was removed in Reborn due to the new lobby system

Mind over Matter on OD looks cool this, his fucking Astral is kinda gay at the moment.

Also
>those achievements

YOU'RE A CROOK
CAPTAIN HOOK
>>
>>163720807
uh crystal maiden? lone druid bear?
>>
>>163721167
>>Remake system - as in you can take a replay file and jump into the game from a designated time, this was removed in Reborn due to the new lobby system
I didn't know people actually used that
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/ourguy/ is playing dota again
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>>163721276
ixmike is offline
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>>163721062
I remember the outrage over this hat.
It'd pass unnoticed these days
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>>163721248
Pros used it for practice and scenarios and pros NEED it, if a major bug were to occur during a competitive game they could just remake the entire game. But you can't do this anymore.
>>
>>163719118
echo, tiny has retarded attack damage, probably the hero that benefits most from echo
>>
i wish you could disable hats.
>>
>>163721409
The gauntlets and pauldrons actually exist in Dota now, but the hat itself never made it in because of thematic issues.
>>
Viper is definitely getting nerfed sooner or later.

>literally impossible to lane against him
>'he falls off' isn't true anymore when you can build orbs all day and Dragon Lance
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>>163721709
thats toxic
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>>163720925
ayy
>>
I can't go any farther I keep jerking off
http://buttsmithy.com/archives/comic/p-275-2
help I need to know what happens
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>>163721787
>Viper is gonna get nerfed

He's actually incredibly easy to gank because that nigga is slow and has no stuns.
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>>163721787
>hero was borderline op for months and months
>wtf trash hero icefag balance pls
>hero gets nothing but a graphical remodel
>wtf hero op balance pls

ayy dotards
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>>163721919
>>hero gets nothing but a graphical remodel
And talents, pretty much every hero got a net buff this patch because of talents
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>>163721709
You used to be able to back when valve actually allowed you to mod the game
If you tried to change the vpk these days you'd risk a VAC ban. All that work from modders immediately down the shithole because muh pumpkin trees, which valve themselves capitalized on with the new bloom map's trees
>>
>>163720925
drakken camp
I mean icefrog added the ancients with the root & -armor
>>
>>163712083
>What's point of gaining mmr if you're not getting good at the game?


thing is if you are around 3k you barely have an understanding on how they game works. i have tryied the let me pick for what the team needs. it works but i would bounce up and down mmr.

i'm spamming natures profit, and i can say that im getting a better idea on how to play the game/ what items are good to get in what situation.In a general sense as im raising my mmr. i was 700 mmr im now 1.3k. i figure if i can get to 3k i can at least learn what i need to know to stay there or i will drop. But a least im not low mmr again
>>
>>163722060
>im now 1.3k
Geez anon, you're amazing.
>>
>playing during a storm
>comfy.j-
>power goes out for literally 15 seconds
>try to reconnect
>piece of shit PC takes forever to load up
>finally open dota again
>reconnect button isn't showing up
>realize nobody paused
>low priority queue

fug
>>
>>163721787
>People thinking Viper falls off

Viper with items is terrifying. Silver Edge proc into Bloodthorn and Viper Strike that does over 1000 damage over 5 seconds with the talent, all with even more move and attack speed slows. His problem was he was a shitty farmer, with Shash Bros Dota he can get items easier because he's great at killing fools early, especial with any kind of lead.
>>
>>163712083
>PPD has the mechanical skill of 3k player but can play a variety of heroes fr
you know they spam meta heros to get good at them right.
>>
why does moon get ~30 fps spectating but ~100 in an actual game?
>>
>>163722129
>Geez anon, you're amazing.

did you understand the point i was trying to make or just gunna cherry pick that one part
>>
>>163722264
Zooming out lowers FPS obviously
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>>163722264
>~100 in an actual game
he gets 70-80 ingame
also because its still a beta
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>>163722264
Why do you think?
>>
amazing how mechanically skilled fng isthe fucking precision of his movement lads

he deserved better desu
>>
>>163721919
>no endurance run posting
?
>>
Did RED ever deliver on that picture he was drawing yesterday?
>>
did that site with the currently in game pros get shut down? it showed who was in game & if there was a stream
>>
>>163722832
you mean like gosugamers / liquiddota / joindota?
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How do you play new techies?
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>>163722916
http://www.dota2tvpro.com/ this one
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>>163722935
recognize how broken his new suicide is and abuse a 300 damage nuke at level 1 - which still denies you at sub-50% health, silences, jumps and deals full damage in the AoE instead of having to walk up.
>>
>>163722935
like before but even more of a nigger
>>
when's the latest ompetitive games?
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>tfw been lethargic as fuck all day ever since I got out of bed this morning
>don't have the energy to do fuck all
>but I'm not even really tired enough to fall asleep
>was in bed trying to sleep earlier but all that happened was I was laying down with my eyes closed for 30 minutes
>only ended up getting out of bed because my phone's battery died
What do I do, dotards?
I'd queue up for a game right now but I don't want to lose MMR because of how I'm feeling at the moment.
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>when your team can't do any sort of maneuver that even remotely resembles team play
>the enemy is doing everything right

>your team's supports dont buy wards
>enemy does

>your team has wards but they don't look at the map ever
>enemy does

>your team has mad good initiatior who gets initiations spot on all the time, but only one or two are there to follow up.
>enemy team's initiator gets all the help, support and follow up crap on target when needed

>your Windranger buys desolator and carry items and then gets fucked
>enemy Windranger plays support and plays it well

>your team's Weaver gets out of fight without using ulti getting fuck all done
>enemy weaver harasses and decimates your entire backline and leaves with 40 hp and 2 mana after your team has been wiped

>your Chaos Knight doesn't take stun until passive and rift are maxed
>enemy CK gets stun and early kills because of it and contributes to the team in general

>Your Luna can't get any farm even on the easiest easy lane ever with all the space she needs
>enemy Luna get's retarded amounts of farm because she stacked ancients and bounced back after being hard-pressed on the lane thanks to helpful teammates who prevented any attempts to contest the ancients later on.

>Your team can't deal with invisible heroes despite having filthy rich supports
>Enemy team lays elaborate traps and ganks against your scouting invis hero and renders him utterly useless with sentries, dust and common sense

I hate this game desu senpai
>>
>>>163723491
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>retard picks mk in ranked
>cant kill lion
>gives up and transforms into trees and asks the other team not to kill him xDD
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>>163720474
hmm this sounds intriguing but will heavily conflict with team composition especially if i lie silly anon
>>
uh inhouse?
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>play Pitlord
>we are currently """""losing""""" a clash at top
>enemy used all their ults
>I blink in and we """"teleport away""""
>enemy try to push T1 and T2
>we are actually waiting at shrine top
>blink in and malice
>win the clash and the game
based Shrines
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>meet stack mate from /d2g/
>he and his buddies offer game with me where i pick undying
>game clears, finshes, i preform badly but fail to add either of them
>i fail to add either of the two players which were playing with me in my game, which i was playing in
>some time later, they are encountered again
>blog shit about them on the """lag"""
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I want to play wind ranger. What is the best build on her?
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>>163725189
ring of repick
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>>163725331
no
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>>163725404
urn of uninstall
>>
>>163725189
>>163725331
fill your bottle with the abandon rune
>>
>>163725519
>>163725516
>>163725331
I knew I was tired when I laughed
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>>163720925
"WE WANT TO KEEP CHARACTERS IDENTIFIABLE AT A GLANCE"
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU TURN JUGGERNAUT INTO TYRAEL
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>>163725189
belt of microwave your harddrive
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>>163725331
>>163725516
>>163725519
>>163726180
why do you hate me dotards? I can still kill any carry in one shackleshot lategame
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>capitalist is 6k
>envy is 6k
really gets the grey matter going
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>>163726807
>one's a cool dude who is very personable and charismatic
>the other is a bumbling retarded autistic weeb
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>>163726807
He's on a smurf, retard
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>>163726885
we know you post here cap cmon
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>>163726885
>ones a normalfag
>the other is me
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>>163727062
>only cap likes cap
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>>163713843
>min~max doesnt have difference
>not maxing

I dont understand.
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>tobi casts like once every 3 months on average now
>fat jew casts once every 3 weeks on average

i think this was actually when dota started to go downhill
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>>163714178
Wow. I'm surprised, people arent selling limited item for low price... that's shocking. :^)
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what was that one anime song that EE would play to get him really pumped up?

I know the youtube video had a picture of some anime girl with a tiger or something and there was this long drawn out piano opening followed by some funky bass.
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>>163721276
Barny???
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>>163727529
a cruel angel's thesis
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>>163726807
its not like it even matters anyway
6-9k who cares
your mmr average for a game will still be mid-high 5k
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whats with this "buy hotd on everyone" meme i'm seeing
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>>163704552
Thank you!
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>>163723981
The only support your carry needs is a bloodlust and a well-timed stun
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>>163727529
is it crumbling ?
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>>163727236
What does tobi do with all his time now
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>>163727965
>crumbling
yes for fucks sake, its this
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>>163728018
>>163727965
thank you, merry christmas dotard
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>>163727779
its the take any hero and buy hotd on it
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>>163727779
I dont get the new hotd at all
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>>163727779
dotards learning to micro a second unit
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this one hero harold guy is pretty funny
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you know what i want for christmas dotards

i want this interface but for the people in my games
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>>163728267
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/92706637
im so fucking mad he doesn't just main PA
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>>163727779
they are now Good Drums
and every neutral has an ability now so that too
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So is it just me or does the 750 ms weaver talent basically give him an extra item slot?

I've had 3 games that have drawn out, and I just cannot justify boots when that talent exists. Sure, you keep a set of travels in your backpack, but you can still use 6 big items.
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what did he mean by this
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>>163728734
wait WTF
They don't give lifesteal anymore?
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is envy listening to a song about breast milk?
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>>163720925
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Slashing_Quickslicer_Pack

I've been bitching that this hasn't been in the game since it first showed up in the files in 2013.
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IS THAT CCNC IN ENVY'S GAME?
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>>163729308
literally who
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>>163714204
implying dota actually follows its hat guidelines anymore
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>our guy bulldog friendzoned this lass
he truly is our guy
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looks like i have some new stories to tell...
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>>163728874
Are u serious nigga
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>envy changed the e40 back to weebshit
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what hero besides sven can even use mom now? i guess luna can farm with it but it's even more expensive now
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>>163729692
Wrath king
I mean, he has one ability, which has the exact same cooldown as mom's duration
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>>163729692
why was mom even nerfed
kinda weird
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>>163729692
bara
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>>163729806
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>>163729953
That was years ago, let it go
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Is it worth getting into DoTA2 if I have no friends and would only play solo? I've never really played MOBAs much other than like 10 games
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the king has arrived
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>>163730304
Yes. It reallly is a solo game when you get good enough
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>>163730304
no

>>163730168
he asked why mom was nerfed
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>>163730304
I don't know of any other game that better compliments the bitterness of solitude
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when u realize how good sd is against am
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i need no introduction
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a new journey is about to begin
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envy just afk while he loses rax
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>>163730168
No. Most of the time I've been pleasantly surprised at how well patches have adjusted things.

That was the worst patch since before dota 2. Even closed beta with a few dozen heroes and 2 hour queue times because there were only 80 people online was better.
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>>163730548
Is this your first time watching envy?
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>>163730365
He meant this patch
It now silences you during use
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Post heroes that do LITERALLY nothing when they're on your team and single handedly win the game when they're on the enemy team
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>>163730762
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>>163730762
yes hello
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redpill me on league of legends and dota 2
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>>163730943
they're both shit
threadwise lolg has waifus where we have /pol/
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>>163730943
current state of the game: pic related
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>>163730762
I fucking hate Tresdin so much
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>>163730762
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>>163731064
>only hud and cdr are the lol shit and talent tree is from HotS
>haha league of lesbians 2 xDDD
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>>163730762
>your invoker: cold snap and sunstrike, nothing else
>enemy invoker: secret lovechild of Gandalf and Dumbledore, his EMP reaches you across the map and his sunstrike is as wide as your whole base. When the meteor comes down, three of your towers shatter instantly
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>>163730762
enemy silencer
>20 stolen int by minute 10, including 6 from your support who can no longer use all their abilities without buying a null.
>perfectly interrupts your sandking's epi while he's in the fog
>silences ravage mid cast 3 fights in a row while his team ignores the tide so kraken doesn't proc
>Buys ghost scepter and actually uses it

your silencer
>midas and brown boots at minute 18 despite stealing farm from 2 lanes
>Despite having a dragon lance by minute 35, spends the entire game on the front line with no survival items
>Randomly globals at the start of every fight so the enemy enigma can bkb it off
>When he doesn't global too soon, he doesn't get it off at all because he's so far forward.
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>>163730762
your furion
>cliff jungle all game
>first build midas straight to aghs
>constantly feeds the treants giving enemy free gold
enemy furion
>lanes and disrupts your pull
>helps support gank
>uses treants to scout enemy when vision is down
>know when exactly to rat
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>>163731417
christ this reminds me of a game where my omniknight insisted no soloing bot. At 10 minute mark he had brown boots, stick, and not enough max mana to use a single spell

He abandoned and I lost twenty-five hard earned video game points
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your God is getting cucked right now
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>>163731817
he's a white male, he'll never be my God
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>>163731817
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why does envy keep building veil of memes on ember?
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>>163732012
Because it's fucking broken?

Do you have any idea how much damage triple spirit bombing someone with a veil and the spell amp talent does? If there's two supports together you can instantly kill both of them.
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>>163732270
not that anon but do you know who started that meme? I lost 3 games with Ember doing that shit
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>>163732270
yeah it deals 300

with spell amp that's 345

with veil and after magic reduction that's 323.5

insane
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>>163732523
Plus flame guard, chains, and a sleight.

It's a finger of death on a hero that has built in mobility, evasion, and a free radiance.
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>>163732270
>>163732270
and guess how many times envy has done that this game? zero and guess how useless you are when the cores have bkbs and now u have no escape spirit. it's a dumb meme build.
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>>163732629
...Did you say... free?
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How much more will balanced wolf of two ultimates be nerfed before going back into captain's mode? The last couple nerfs weren't that bad so surely he's already close to balanced despite me consistently using him to get back unjustly stolen MMR.
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>>163732629
you get like 70 damage more on your 3 spirit combo

you need to waste over 2k gold on that and use ALL of your mobility to achieve it. It doesn't increase your farming speed almost at all compared to other items

it's shit, no matter who tries to meme it into existence it'll still be shit. If you were able to meme someone to death chances are you would've succeeded with normal build as well, and a normal build has plenty of other upsides which veil doesn't
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What do you do when you are position 5 and your team is peruvian? slark wouldn't buy BKB against invoker and a fed leshrac
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envy would have double the farm rn if he went bf
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>be Chinese general who specializes with two (2) swords
>somehow the people who are using me buys me MAGIC based items instead of damage items that my sleight of fist benefits from
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>>163733053
>battlefury ember
>in 7.00

find a noose and hang yourself
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i need no introduction
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>Playing reddit:the game
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>>163733469
Yep, this guy is right.

We should install Paragon™, the hot new MOBA (Multiplayer Online Battle Arena) by Epic Games.
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When's the last time a VG Masters was held?
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>>163733646
I believe the last time was fuck off faggot
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What the fuck do you do as a support when you are feeding? I can't farm, can't get kills.

It all falls apart so fast. Fucking PA's jump critting me for 900 damage. Dagger crits. Riki's forcing me to buy sentries and spam them or else risk being killed.

FUCK!

How do I get back into control of my life? So tired of feeding the enemy. I don't want to feed but what are choices? I can't buy these expensive items that would help me defend myself.

Where is the fucking gold coming from?
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>>163731915
Is she still with loda
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>>163733701
If you're falling behind then grab bounties and buy tomes. Stick to your team.
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>>163733730
maybe
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>>163733730
yes
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>>163733701
>>163733770
Also, most if not all talent choices are choices between either more offense or more defense. Make sure to grab the defensive ones if you're playing from behind.
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>it's a the other team has former ti players and your team has nobodies episode
great said the goat
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>talent "trees"
>choices are binary and the path is ultimately linear

So do we have to wait for 8.00?
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>get wireless headphones for xmas
>sound is choppy and keeps cutting off
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>>163734343
>got a soldering iron for christmas
>successfully repaired my akg K702s
I feel accomplished and I can hear things again
Why didn't you go to /hpg/ before you ended up getting poop for christmas
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>>163734647
What is Io, the Wisp?
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>>163734647
Who is techies
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>>163734647
who is beastmaster?
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>>163733730
unfortunately
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>>163734647
who is any support hero ever
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is monkey king the new sniper? only room temperature IQ players pick him now
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>>163735456
He still wins ridiculous fights in the early game and it pisses me the fuck off
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>>163735521
and thats why nyx is GOAT
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>this envy game

Uuuuh dotards you told me Viper can't win past laning phase.
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Is Midas still worth buying on Ancient Apparition in 7.00?

Is Midas still worth buying at all?
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Um dotards why do I have a 10.0 for supporting as Wraith King?

Additionally: how did we win this?
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>>163735858
Buy midas on everyone desu.
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>>163735965
because the passive gives healing points
healing points count towards support score

lycan also has this problem, where he gets 10 support score every game regardless of what happens
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>>163732968
whats your mmr, I'm legit curious cause it has to be less than your iq
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>>163735965
cause furion
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>>163736083
Yeah, and I've noticed pushing only takes into account actual building damage, not clearing waves
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>>163733469
>he thinks coolface is from reddit

newfag
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>>163735858
get midas and the 60 gold/min talent and just get farmed as fuck senpai
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>EE 0/4/2
>professional dota 2 player
????
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>go 21 and 0 in lane as bat rider
>monkey and zues are level 4 while i'm 10
>team is doing okay
>fast forward fifteen minutes jug and monkey get a few ult picks and start killing everyone
>i still ahve no deaths
>we're losing now
i love this game.
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>>163736621
he was solo taking towers and forcing entire rotations while his team farmed, stop looking at just scores
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>>163736960
>feeding is the same as making space for the rest of your team!
Sure buddy
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>>163737005
Post dotabuff
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>>163737068
Sure. I don't know what you're trying to prove.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/51594519
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>>163737119
holy shit you are trash
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@163737259
You don't even deserve a (You)
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>>163737119
not the fag u were arguing with but just curious y dont you ranked anymore man. it triggers me to see so many normal matches in your history
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>>163736621
>NP
>Pro team
Lmao
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>>163737393
it's a smurf
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>>163737393
Ranked too stressful. I just want to play fun casual dota without all the yelling and shit flinging.
>>163737426
No smurf.
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>>163737467
>>163737467
>friendo got carried to 6k+ just feeding as support while his buddies carried him
>i'm stuck in 2k carrying him in very high skill games when we normal queue
Climbing is hard. i can't stick to spamming meepo, invoker, storm game after game just to climb i get worn out. gotta have variety.
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Why is it that no matter where I lane, I end up with 10 heroes in my lane by minute 8? Since 7.00 it seems games are won by whoever can herd 5 retards into a single lane the soonest. Are carries even relevant anymore if they can't farm a single item before getting gangbanged?
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Only 9 inches?
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>win lane
>other lanes lose
>lose game
>repeat x20
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>>163738124

>winning lane
>other lanes doing okay
>enemy heroes see me winning lane
>5 enemy heroes now in my lane
>11:36
>lose lane
>lose game
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The cancer in 7.00 that is killing dota and carrying
>jungle spawns nerfed in 7.00
>jungle bounties nerfed in 6.84
>kill aoe gold buffed in 6.82
>kill exp buffed recently
>shrines that allow constant ganks
>towers falling too fast
>games snowballing to 20 min ends
>a single kill allows the enemy team to get tons of gold despite not farming any creeps all game
>carries can't carry against teams that run at them
>ganking playstyles trump all the others especially carrying and only memepushing comes second
>support pudges hooking heroes 3 times his networth and solo killing them
>brain dead heroes like slark, PA, huskar, sniper, drow and pudge are stronger than heroes that require skill to play such as visage and chen
>buying an early midas means you lose because the enemy team will snowball and roll you over and end the game by 20 minutes because you didn't buy instant memefighting items like drums or HOTD or sny or SHIT
>all carry players including rtz(lmao even this nigger) have been in pain since 6.81
>meme teamfights and run-at-face-as-five dota is constantly pushed as an agenda by that enslaved icefrog faggot so games are "entertaining"
>If you ganked a lane as 5 in the previous patches before 6.82, the other two lanes got more free farm and experience than you did, so people used to do it less. Those days the best you could do was 3 man gank another lane, which meant that individual skill mattered more than simply outnumbering the enemy
>Memefight deathball fangays will argue that outnumbering the enemy takes skill because 5 people are working together as a team. Somehow 5v1 actually takes skill because you're 5 people working together to rape someone?
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>>163738271
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/The%20cancer%20in%207.00%20that%20is%20killing%20dota%20and%20carrying/
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EE just bought rapier
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>>163738271
>7.02
>creeps no longer give gold
>TP scrolls removed for pressing ceremonial reasons
>you can now TP to buildings for free every 30 seconds
>added 2 more shrines to each lane and jungle
>towers are now affected by magic damage and can be targeted by most spells
>items more than 5000 gold removed from the game because no one can farm those anyway
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>>163738271
>meta is farm heavy
>/d2g/ complains
>meta is push heavy
>/d2g/ complains
>meta is teamfight heavy
>/d2g/ complains

What would please the /d2g/?
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>>163738515
delete dota
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>>163738515
6.85-88 was nice
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This fucking envy game
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>>163738610
No it wasn't. I had to stop playing meepo because the memeback was so bad and the farming was shittier than it is right now.
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>>163738646
memeback>memeball
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It's not an EE game without a rapier.
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envy da cumbek tho
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>>163738471
What if we split gold into 3 different resources?

You get one from lane creeps, one from jungle creeps, one from enemy heroes, and bounty runes/killing wards/Roshan/etc give a bit of each. And certain items would cost more of one type of resource so say you want to build a mek you would need mostly gold from teamfighting and some lane gold while a desolator would be a lot of jungle gold and a bit of lane/teamfight gold.

You could also convert one resource to another but you only get like 75% returns so its better to gain the resource type you need.
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>>163738834
I agree with this.
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>>163738323
I'm gonna post it every thread because it's true.
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New hero :

Kevin, The Businessman

Int, Ranged

Skill 1 : Business mode
Grants invulnerability. The enemy must buy items from you in order to disable this ability.
Cannot sell Secret Shop items.

Duration : 4/6/8/10
Gold bonus : 100%/105%/110%//115%

Cooldown : 15

Skill 2 : Negotiate
Damages the target per second, this ability will not be debuffed until the enemy buys an item.

Damage per second (HP) : 2%
Damage per second (Base) : 20/25/30/35
Duration : 10

Cooldown : 15

Skill 3 : Bodyguard
Calls an ally instantly, the called ally will return to its spot after the duration ends.
If an enemy is killed by bodyguard or Kevin, gold gain is increased.
Duration : 5/7/9/11
Hero kill gold bonus : 40%

Cooldown : 15

Skill 4 : Market Hoarding
Disables the enemy from buying and using items. Enables the whole team from buying items without going to shops for a certain duration.

Duration : 10
Range : Global

Cooldown : 40/30/20


Aghanims scepter :
Makes "Business mode" sell Secret Shop items only for enemies.
Adds Secret Shop to merchandise.
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>>163738951
It's true that you're a faggot but I don't have to post it every thread
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rofl this thread is fucking DEAD haha
>>
>carry role cucked
>dead thread

rmyt
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>>163719937
winter wyvern? (I'd say SS but that support stat)
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>>163732818
What do you think is a better talent at 25?

two wolves are nice but 15 more seconds of ult sounds strong as hell.
>>
Does anyone have the bug where you're affected by an effect like salve or a rune, but the thing doesn't show how long it last. It also doesn't show when I level up.
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IO is the most cucked hero right?
I mean you have to fcking stick your dick to someone else and fking server them to be useful
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>>163739896
Wisp can lay off his cuckery and go treads armlet dragon lance heart.

>a daily reminder that everything works sub 6k games
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umm, dotards?
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>>163740009
it's christmas
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>>163739896
Io is the most broken hero in Dota.
There is a reason nearly every fucking change in his existence has been a nerf

>fucking mid Io
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>Since 7.00 which team have more carry won.
Unless the team have more carry are retard or fucked up,they wont lose.
Kinda sick of mobilyty agi hero everysingle game
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>>163740091
they're implying to ricing carry anon
>naga
>medusa
>1-3-1-1 luna
>cleave sven
>gyro
>etc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QLD4rQORuQ


I miss him what r the name of his alt twitch acounts
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>>163738515
Meta needs to be strategy diverse.
High number of pickable heroes is not enough.
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>>163740184
Sven jungle can come online really fast in this meme fight meta
>>
>jungling

back to LoL WITH YOU

Icefrog didn't even buff the jungle he fucking nerfed quelling blade from 40 to 24 and reduced spawns
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>>163740404

Icefag first gave junglers life with iron talon than took away life with 7.00 jungle changes.
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Rat DotA status?
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>>163712117
>He doesn't have BSJ tupla to boost his gameplay
fucking shitstain motherfucker
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>>163738973
nice

would "main"
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>other players play jugg
ULT KILLS FUCKING EVERYBODY

>I play jugg
Ult takes half of Lion's health
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>>163740531
>tupla
AND OF COURSE I GET DDOSED
THIS SITE IS SO SHIEEET
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>>163740431
jungling is actually easier now that you can salve while tanking the neutrals
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>>163740091
>>163740184
>90% of players are already autistic feeders that can literally only play agility carries where you right click over and over again
>meta now rewards this behavior
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>>163738973
>20 stacks of tp
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>>163740959
Salves are more efficient but they don't break trees and a tiny bit of health isn't so important when you can just tango while taking damage already - you have to take at least 400 damage for Salve to be worth using. It's hardly easier when Quelling Blade got a big nerf and camps spawns got halved.
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>>163706993
ive excIusiveIy pIayed qop this week
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Why do I get retarded monkey fucking bitches who just sits on a fucking tree all the time
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>>163741234
>level 14 account

Who cares you're smurfing. Why don't you go strangle some toddlers and boast about killing people with your bare hands.
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>>163740258
>unreal world
Oh man I miss that glorious fucker, why has he abandoned us? When's the last time he streamed?
Why am I still subbed?
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Yo whatever happened to weedman? Does he still play Dota? What's going on with that guy
Fuck I miss everybody from 2014
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>>163741301
>Why don't you go strangle some toddlers and boast about killing people with your bare hands.
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>>163741301
i have to my other acc got banned ..
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>-25
>-25
>-24
>-25
>-24
kill me
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>Aghs on SWM now effectively doubles his spell casts
Is core SWM viable now?
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hey dotards

i need no introduction
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>>163741796
>le reddit meme
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>>163741830
I'm sure reddit invented monkey king introducing himself whenever he spins around on the main menu, yes. How would you know it's a reddit meme anyway?
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#RIP Martin O'Donnell: what mmr is the leshrac na ape
brickenbrack: anyone here hot girl?
15 Incredible Reindeer Tricks: >4 minute queue
15 Incredible Reindeer Tricks: game dead
brickenbrack: but r u hot girl?
15 Incredible Reindeer Tricks: no
15 Incredible Reindeer Tricks: am sad neet
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moon is so fucking good when hes mad
good lord
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remember when vp was the best team in the world?
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>tfw no jon snow hero
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>tfw no jedi hero
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>tfw no one posting
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>>163742224
anti mage
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haven't played dota in 9+ months

how's my boy shadow shaman

is he still good
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>>163742276
im here anon-ayrun ~.^
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>>163742295
8 second shackIes
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>>163742379
>letting a Shadow Shaman channel for 8 seconds
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>>163738775
memeback IS the cause of memeball
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>>163742394
i Iost a game recentIy with 900 damage on Ic. was hitting the enemy ancient with no one except the enemy puck, shaman and my zeus aIive. ancient down to 20% and the shaman starts shackIing me. zeus is right next to me but hes busy right cIicking the ancient and shaman gets the entire 8 seconds off. puck nukes me to death and we Iose. i hope that retarded bitch nigga zeus dies of aids
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>>163738973
that's a big watch
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>>163722060
>thing is if you are around 3k you barely have an understanding on how they game works
>im now 1.3k
geez lad
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>>163705780
My girlfriend and I fought, made up, had sex, opened presents, spent time with family, and now we're fighting again.

Lmao I love Christmas.
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>>163705780
yes I sat in silence as people I barely know or like ribbed me about not having a girlfriend, for 4 hours

and then I got $10 and a scratch-off lotto ticket
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>>163742601
be happy you have her. my gf broke up with me a few days ago but she was a psycho bitch IoI
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>>163704330
laughed so hard i cried
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>>163741784
With Atos buff it sure is.

Also his Aghs is stupid broken.
It's effectively refresher - but you always use it on someone else and you get double the usage of your spells. If people thought Mirana Aghs was broken this shit is the fucking top.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugsq9KS-rgg

heres that song some anon asked for like two days ago from arteezy stream
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>>163742668
Sorry anon. But I'm aort of the psycho bitch here.

Doesn't help that she's crazy too.


I guess you could say we were meant for each other.

Merry Christmas /d2g/ hopefully I'll make it to the next one!
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>>163705780
Merry christmas! I had a nice lunch with my family, ate some cakes after and had coffee, talked and such.. Was fun
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>>163742801
dont be sorry its for the best anon. im crazy too but she was diagnosed with muItipIe disorders. one time she whispered to me in a cute voice she wants to be abducted, raped and chopped into IittIe pieces and that it was her truest desire in Iife. was a bit taken aback. oh weII at Ieast i can pIay more dotes now merry xmas to you too
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how do i make my team stop feeding tresdin
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>>163742991
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/c9/Pud_death_10.mp3
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>>163743250
>stun tresdin
>use hex/cyclone
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>>163743285
ty anon i Iaughed ~
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>>163743312
okay how do I do that when my slark is fucking around solo in the enemy jungle
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hi
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>>163743381
(you)
>>
do you need an introduction?
>>
: good for you
: nah good for your mother, gotta solve her murder case
: you know
: so did you solve the case?
: nah, on it tho
: almost found the culprit
: apparently your mother was raped
: I'm sorry to tell you this
: ahh
: I understand
: if you need a moment alone
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Is Atos better or worse?
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>>163743474
better, especially with new root mechanics

encounter an atos pudge and you will realize this
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>he has 2000+ hours of dota and he's still shit
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>>163743557

>he still shitposts on BadReddit

baka, senpai
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>>163743342
>be wisp

It's a lost game if your team expects Slark to hunt alone all the time
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>>163743593
he gives me {you}s on an Mongolian flip book image forum created by a literal cuckold and now owned by a data mining jap
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>>163743557
Ever tried playing with a shitty internet connection?

It's frustrating to play so damn good 30 minutes in only to find your teammates getting disconnected.
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>he does not participate in the holy union of /pol/und/mlp/
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>tfw no +25 hero
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So, new Na'Vi will be:
>All but confirmed
1.Pajkatt
2.Dendi
3.General
4.rmN
>Possibly
5.PSM (c)
>>
Meta again, feels good.
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post some music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj1Kx7AI_rw
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>>163744059
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>>163744059
Its just boring af
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>>163744279

>pajkatt on Navi

Why do teams keep recycling this team assassin?
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>>163744569
Navi have no one else to go to
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>tug masz kamieniołom do ułożenia
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I want bulldog to sit on my face
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>>163744279
>pajkatt
>its a "white boi" on an asian team episode
wonder how this will turn out
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>Beesa
>SingSing
>Bulldog
>Puppey
>pieliedie

Rate the new Team Secret
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>>163744923

>Beesa
"Time to be disappointed"

>SingSing
"Say goodbye to winning any games"

>Bulldog
"Official MEMETEAM"

>Puppey
"Team disband after first loss"

>pieliedie
"Feeding is part of my strategy"
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Who else /quitplayingbecauseof7.00/?
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DON'T

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/58/Pain_pain_17.mp3

CLICK
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who else /babycuck/?
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who else here /malevitality/
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who else /terrorblade/?
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>>163745384
Alex Jones is so based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WhT9BwpRs
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Why is a single wave of mega creeps strong enough to kill 1 tower?
It doesn't help that 3 waves arrive at once.
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>>163745539
Why do I lose gold when I die
>>
Why would Miracle join NAVI are people actually retarded.
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>tfw you're winning by a lot but for some reason your team still manages to get tilted and they're flaming each other in chat and it gets so cancerous that you just want to abandon and uninstall this game forever

anyone else know this feel?
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i like sounding
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>lategame comes around
>the enemy viper with skadi,satanic and butterfly outmanfights our 6 slotted carry
UHHHH, DOTURDS????
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>>163746185
>what is halberd
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>>163746185
viper really isn't that great late vs other carries on equal farm
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>>163746185
just wait until they realize that deso and skadi now stack

the slowpocalypse is upon us
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can someone post the techies mine grid?
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this? not mine
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Man AoE 2 is great shame they never made a Moba in that setting
>>
>Played League Season 1 to early Season 5
I'd like to learn Dota 2 but I see people saying they are quitting and that 7.00 killed the game. Has it been made more casual friendly and how? Why are people saying it is more like LoL?
>Inb4 Go back to LoL
Riot is garbage.
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>>163746776
>implying aom wouldnt be better as a moba
prostagma?
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>>163746798

Both of these might be outdated a bit because of 7.00 especially because of map changes but the idea is there.

The start:
https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/

LoL to Dota:
https://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol
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>>163746798
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>>163746798

A lot of autism about HuD changes, which borrows a great deal from LoL, Strife, etc.

A lot of autism about map changes which borrows a lot from HotS.
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>>163747012
>>163746938
How is balance affected by the talents? I'd imagine that matchups are fucked, so would I be able to refer to pre patch content? Frankly will this post kill the game or are the complaints I see overreactions? Does the backpack impact the game positively?
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>lmao just destroy the tree MK is on for a 4 second stun
This is such a retarded "counter". Every hero that can destroy trees has a big windup or condition (beastmaster, enigma, batrider has to be on top of the tree to destroy it, timbersaw) and any non-retarded monkey king will see the windup and right click or leap off the tree instantly.

The only times I've seen MK get stunned via tree are due to him being retarded and staying on the tree for way too long, or getting spotted leaping from tree to tree and not realising.
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@MiSeRyDOTA

I miss 6.88.


it begins
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>>163747175
>How is balance affected by the talents?
Not very. talents replace stat levels from before. Oftentimes it just gives back the power from having +20 stats but in a way that benefits the hero in a way that is more helpful to them. Before only illusion based heroes really got a lot out of those.

But really its that you get the first talent at level 10, which is well past laning and well pas when it would "fuck matchups" since you should no longer be 1v1ing at that point anyway.

>Frankly will this post kill the game or are the complaints I see overreactions?
The reactions to the HuD changes are absolutely pointless overreactions. The more impactful changes were map layout changes and xp changes. But the overall trend to make games shorter and more teamfight focused has been going on for longer than 7.00.

>Does the backpack impact the game positively?
Yes, but it might be changed in the future. It really just makes combining items out in the field a lot less awkward. It might change what "ultra-late game" looks like when everyone is basically 6+slotted but those games are so infrequent that here isn't many data points to start with.
>>
BASE/BONUS ARMOR/DAMAGE DISTINCTION VISIBLE WHEN

PHYSICAL RESISTANCE VISIBLE WHEN

HP BAR THATS NOT OUT OF THE SCREEN WHEN
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>>163747328
>Human resists change
WOAW
O
A
W
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>>163747328
I do not.

t. played at 2 TIs
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>>163747403
Thanks a lot, anon. Hope you had a nice Christmas or whatever.
I've played SC2 and w3's campaigns so I am used to how the character's handle. What are key differences I should keep in mind?
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what went wrong?
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>>163746628
>>163746685
Like this
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>>163747721
>4/11 pa
>14/0 tinker

hmmm haven't a clue
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>>163747721
didnt ban tinker
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Should I play DotA2?
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>tfw I killed the enemy spec 7 times before 8 minutes and she was still able to farm her items and win
someone kill me
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>>163747680
>What are key differences I should keep in mind?

You will spend as much time unlearning habits from LoL as a new player would to get some kind of basic competency.

Big picture stuff:
1. In LoL, turrets protect you. In Dota, you protect towers
2. The items on a hero are oftentimes more important than the hero they are on.
3. Hopefully learned in LoL: focus on playing well, not on winning or you will drive yourself crazy if you play with random people
4. "Maining" in Dota 2 has none of the connotations as it does in LoL. Heroes can be played in multiple ways in multiple lanes.

Lastly, just fuck around a little bit in a few bot games mostly learning how you buy items, tp to towers, use pings, etc. Pick a few heroes that are pretty solid/straightforward for their simplicity: Lich, Viper, Tidehunter, Venomancer, Witch Doctor. But quickly just jump into games against human opponents. You will lose a lot of games at first, but focus on the basics including map awareness, timings, etc.

Then spam that random button every game. There is no better way to find heroes that work well with you.
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>>163746798
Primarily the UI, just switch the minimap to the right and it's practically 1:1 copy of LeL UI.
Besides that, this thread has a very vocal autist browsing and posting that literally spams off cooldown when he comes around. It makes the problem seem an order of magnitude more prominent. You'll learn to recognize him, he has a very distinct shitposting style, probably on purpose. No, I'm not talking about Lebanon, he's just a-merry-lad.
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>>163723030
And is also a an AoE silence
>>
Did you guys see the fixed match between Avalon and Ehome x? Those fuckers should be banned from all valve events
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>pick lycan
>treads hotd
>dominate an ursa or alpha wolf
>walk up to tower
>summon wolves
>awooo
>tower disappears

dotards? find a flaw in my strategy
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>>163747978
>Then spam that random button every game. There is no better way to find heroes that work well with you.
there is no better advice to make someone a perpetual 2k shitter more like
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>>163748089

Give reasons why Beastmaster isn't better at every step of this plan.
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>>163748129
beastmaster doesnt have 50% FREE damage
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>>163748106

Not for perpetuity. There is no other way to get out of the comfort zone of a few heroes other than using the random button. Especially because to know that, for example, knowing when to time Witch Doctor cask is similar to when to use Lich ult is not something a new player would know.

> a perpetual 2k shitter more like
A new player WILL be 2k or lower.
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>>163748173
>beastmaster doesnt have 50% FREE damage

He gets 45%, and it affects allied units/heroes, and scales off base AND bonus stats.
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>>163748297
attackspeed=/=damage
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>>163748350
You are a fucking retard
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>>163748350

There isn't much difference at early levels. And its washed out because BM aura includes bonus stats, such as from treads or necro components.

Boars are better for jungling or laning. Hawk is better to scout out for defenders. And BM doesn't need half as many items to have Lycan's impact in a teamfight.
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>>163747524

ixmike, how come your skill/time investment ratio is the worst of any pro?
>>
>>163748350

If it wasn't for attack speed cap which matters at very high attack speed there would be zero difference between 100% damage multiplier and 100 attack speed.
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>>163748507
I played in 5 and 6 though.
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WHEN WILL THEY FUCKING NERF MONKEY KING ULT

ITS FUCKING INSANELY RETARDED THAT SHIT APPLIES ON HIT AEFFECTS
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>>163748649

It is literally the only thing that prevents MK from being a Quas bot after 15 minutes.
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>>163748686
>Utterly broken ult
>dude but rest of the skills are "shit dude lmao"

Fuck off MK picker
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>>163748106
I'm expecting to be god awful. Becoming slightly less awful is part of the fun.
The game has been more satisfying than LoL in my first handful of games.
>>163747978
Thanks for the insight. What should my hero pool look like before I think about touching ranked?
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>>163748737
>Fuck off MK picker

I am not defending it, just giving the likely reason for it. It is an exceptional behavior deliberately coded in with few equals in the game.

He is dangerously close to being another Doom.

>>163748743
>Thanks for the insight. What should my hero pool look like before I think about touching ranked?

No way to predict that since you need to play a lot of games to get to that point anyway. And what heroes you like playing will be based on preference.
>>
>>163748743
four-five heroes for each role should be enough, probably more for mid since it's the most match up dependent lane
>>
MK strikes me as a hero who has 2 broken skills, 1 average one, and 1 shit one.

the most broken is the stun, because its literally the same as earth spirits stun

the 2nd broken ons is jingu, just because of the insane damage and lifesteal you get, letting you dive early

the average one is the tree hop/slow. you will rarely ever use it in fights since it has the blink cooldown, but for catching targets, tree hop into no channel slow is good for picking off stragglers.

the shit one is actually his ulti. the wind up time makes it kind of meh. its like an sf ulti, just dont let it happen and you will be fine.

OoV+stout+regen is always the way to go. get boots>phase>echo>morbid mask>bkb>bots>butter>satanic>skadi>bloodthorn (replace echo)> moon shard consume>bots 2

the hero fucking plays itself.

sure you can change the item build but MK desperately needs BKB to function. and my function, i mean let him actually get jingu ready before his stun crits for 900 and triple kills instantly.

i still dont understand why his attack range needs to be 300 range.

i dont understand why he has a disguise skill. its cheap and annoying.

hes simply got too many things going for him.
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>>163719937
This anon was right, how DO you get over 5 farming?

inb4 silvers edge noob
had a PA in enemy team and thought she would require some dealing with
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>>163749195
>i still dont understand why his attack range needs to be 300 range

This is the most baffling thing. His exort lane dominance becomes much more manageable if he becomes melee range. And then it functions as a backloaded ursa passive like it appears it should.
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>>163749195
of course, the tree hop (average) skill is also the only really distinctive one.

the problem with the hero is that he should have been built around what is unique and interesting, but instead he's 1 interesting spell propped up by a lot of OP leftover spell ideas.
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>>163749195
His ultimate is ridiculous.
All the little clones can proc items like basher and they all have independent cooldowns.
They also all proc echo sabre and it doesn't go on cooldown eiter, so each hit has a 50% slow.

His stun thing would be ok if he didn't have the free 200 damage to go with the guaranteed critical.
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>>163749261
you dont buy SE for PA as sven, you get MKB
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>>163749363
>His ultimate is ridiculous.
>All the little clones can proc items like basher and they all have independent cooldowns.
>They also all proc echo sabre and it doesn't go on cooldown eiter, so each hit has a 50% slow.

You can LITERALLY force staff out of it at any point in the circle provided you are still there after his windup.
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>>163749434
It functions as a medusa ult except with twice the duration. All it does is create a massive area where you cannot contest and if you don't have a pudge or vs to get him out of it he can just sit in it while he hits your tower in safety.
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>>163749363
remember that Icefrog thought Zet being able to make undroppable Rapiers was worth playtesting on the main server and in a couple of games with professional teams.

he'll eventually accept that MK has to be either a semi-carry or a hard carry and nerf him around that. until then he's an autowin in lane vs melee who can also carry harder than specter.
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>>163749389
Screw mkb though
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>>163749363

brother, it is literally an SF ulti. His ulti is worse than his other 3 spells in every measure just because the cast time to too long to be practicable. Think about it, in the mean time, I could slap a guy for 4 autos and deal 600 damage, let echo proc with jingu and hit for another 600 and just chase him down with phase and bkb/bfly. the ulti doesn't suit his style, but i like what it is. its an actual fun spell that requires thought and positioning, unlike the rest of his spells which are brain dead.

so yeah, use MK ulti like an SF ulti. its a purely defensive ulti or a finisher if your team has a tidehunter for initiation. other than that, its too slow to be used and using it instead of your broken quas will get you killed. its really hard to use without a BKB as well.
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>>163749602
>its an actual fun spell that requires thought and positioning,

heroes can't really be balanced around that game you tree hopped ahead of a retreating team and cast your ult uphill ahead of them so they ran into it.
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>>163749709
The tree hop isn't even faster to move around than just walking in a straight line. Only if you are going over cliffs and shit.
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>>163729462
what
they dont even live in the same fucking country and helena looks like a typical money grabbing cunt who would move on anyway
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>>163749745
that was what i meant. his ult is just potential overkill if you can start snowballing before the enemy team can itemize.

it's the runaway critting being his only area of skill synergy which is the design problem with the hero.
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>>163749709

This is what I would do.

Quas: remember megaman zero? the triple rod weapon? make it so instead of instantly stunning everything in a line, his pole extends every 0.3 or however many seconds. the first stun 400 units happens after cast time, then the other 2 extensions happen at those intervals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g244E9VW7Gc

Wex: make his "hop on to a tree" range weaker at lower levels. level 1 should only be melee range. don't change the hop off radius.

Exort: make jingu give no life steal until its maxed. the damage is what makes MK really strong. i'd much rather keep it there since the stun will not be reliable.

Invoke: balanced

Disguise: Should be removed entirely. The pace of the game is too fast to play fucking scooby doo detective. Even in the previous few patches, they would let the enemy carry live, provided they couldn't stop a push.

Range: 150.

t. expert in balance
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>>163720925
hahahahaha
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>Monkey King can literally go into disguise form, walk past your towers. and sit under your fountain

This has little strategic value other than denying the enemy mid use of the courier and forcing a support to come get rid of the MK. There's "ovepowered" or "broken" and then there's things that heroes just should not be able to do. I've seen many Mks dive like no other hero can, then just disguise to "de-aggro" the tower with no creeps nearby.

>Any hero can just salve through tower shots now anyway
Yeah but if you're at 1% hp it won't save you. Plus you still take the tower damage.
>What is phase shift
Takes up an ability slot, MK gets disguise for free. Plus Puck is often forced to use it if towerdiving to dodge a nuke/stun.
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>>163750340
isn't it really hard to disguise while under a tower?

i assume you have to time it right when you receive a shot, sounds like it should work only if you're really close to the tower
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>>163715304
Go om vg chat
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>>163750604
Where can I find this vg chat

In game you mean?
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>>163750661
Yeah dude. We're all there. Go to the main menu. "Find chat", "user channels" "vg"
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>>163750458
tower deaggroes when you disguise, cancelling the windup before the shot and does not react to disguised kang moving, you can just turn into a tree 33 units out of range and waltz in, mischief has a very low cooldown too so fucking up costs nothing
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>>163712378
Don't pretend playing a hero more than others is not learning the game. After 2000 hours in the game I'm pretty much fucking done with learning the game and I'd rather focus on getting good at a specific role or hero, so that after I'm done with that I go on with the next one I want to get good at. Like this I build up my pool of heroes I can play.

Until the next patch hits.
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>>163714718
>Dressed like a jester so you know he's very tricky

HOLY FUCK LMAO did /d2g/ make this?
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>>163715597
>Was this the day overwatch launched?

Are you retarded? Legion, Infinite Warfare and battlefield 1 would all not be there if this was overwatch launch day.
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>>163715421
It's actually pretty surprising that dota 2 is getting more views than rngstone.
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>>163751034
Yea it sounds exactly like something a dotard would write
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>>163750702
the chat lost a lot of people on the switch to reborn
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>LC has stolen 900 damage.
>Is still a fucking shit hero.

Wonderful hero design desu
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>>163718792
>pocket ricki
>Talents
>redit wants mk from lol in game
>new cm scepter ult roots.
>game is farm fest
and the list goes on and on
>>
watching rimes stream, dendi is kind of a raging shithead in pubs isn't he
>>
>>163751918
>game is farm fest

what :?
>>
>>163720807
I like that generaly retards won't build useful shit
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>they thought removing farm-based carries was a good idea
>>
>Game 2 & 4 of the day.
>Some dunnin kruger shitter closing in on 20 deaths raging how everyone else is shit, how he is better than everyone else and playing easily the worst of anyone in the team

wevst
>>
>>163751948
have you watched fear's stream?

he's whining CONSTANTLY
>>
>9 russians dont have the attention span of 5 minutes to get a single game of dota 1 together
i dont wanna play dota 2 guys
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>>163751918
>>game is farm fest
no
>>
>>163751918
>reddit asked for talents in the game
>reddit asked for MK in the game
>implying those Aghs upgrades have changed the game much at all

[citation needed]
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>all my game knowledge ; farm rotation, map awareness, last hit timing, farming while behind, carrying my 4 retard teammates casually, spamming luna/gyro/medusa/naga and my favorite casually triple stacking every game

>realized its all gone
>everything feels different
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>>163751918
>>game is farm fest
???
>>
>>163751229
Hearthstone meta is unfixable it really is dying.
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>>163751918
>game is farmfest
>>163752117
>>163752128
>>163752441
>>163704035
>>163705109
>>163705175
>>163705453
>>163706993
>>163707278

do you want me to tag more references?
play the game at least before going here
>>
not a fan of this game tbqhfamalam
>>
>>163752609
im not sure if this is bait or you're retarded

or i might be


what are you on about
>>
when are our guys (eg obviously) playingg next?
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>>163751918
>game is farmfest
>>
Best to max aura straight away now?
>>
Is Ostarion, the Wraith King the comfiest hero in the game
>>
>first game in about 5 weeks
>jungle bs and legion on the same team
>solo AM
Ah yes this is why I stopped playing this dogshit game.
>>
>>163752894
>came back to the game
>was solo am safelane every game
>hit 80% winrate
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Can't nerf me?

ALL FARM-BASED CARRIES ARE GOING TO HELL WITH ME AHEAHHAHAAEHAAHAA
>>
>>163752850
no
you can get two levels in aura by level 3 if you don't have any gankable lanes or have something like bristle in your team but you should max either nuke after that
>>
How do I go to the Dota 2 subreddit?
>>
>>163753274
you're already in it my man
>>
>>163753068

>that feel when support alchemist is lost to the sands of time
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What went wrong?
>>
why is gambling so easy?
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>that friend who only plays support
>his favorite hero is crystal maiden
>>
>>163714718

>Dressed in nothing but a loincloth

Goddamn Shadow Demon take my DICK
>>
>Miracle joined Na'Vi
hahah how low can "the best player of the world" fall top kek
>>
>>163754643
wasnt that just arteezy fucking around on twitter?
>>
>>163754916
Yeah just like all the "pros fucking around in twitter" things that were false with regards to rosters in the last swap?
>>
>>163754590
>tfw this is quickly becoming me since no one supports in my games
>>
>>163754941

well, yes?
>>
>>163754967
>le bulba wont join TL
>joins it

i'm putting a good 90% on rtz not joking about miracle and na'vi
>>
The new map is honestly ass.

I fucking hate it.
>>
Fuckin morons should've put roshan on midlane to make it fair for both sides
>>
>>163755283
>tfw mid lane is about out last hitting rosh who keeps on fighting the waves of both sides
>:-D
>>
>>163755283
Should've made two Roshans, one drops Rapier the other Aegis.
>>
Go back to OLD map.
Keep talents.

Dota is fun again.
>>
>>163755108
who said bulba was going to join TL? Pretty sure it was a surprise when the team announced it
>>
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This guy comes to midlane and slaps your mids ass, what do you do?
>>
>le just adapt to change lmao

t. league of the storm general
>>
>>163755515
>again
??
>>
Is it normal wanting to kill your team members in every second game? Keep in mind i'm talking mmr slightly above 3k
>>
>>163755540
Go steal enemy teams candy. True dota players knows what's up.
>>
>>163755564
>waah i got patched out of the game dota is now ruined because i cant grind mmr like a monkey with the only strat i know
t. alliance after ti3
>>
How do you survive as a support? I feel like there aren't any good items in the long run that can really help you survive that PA dagger critting you for 900 damage and shit.

Fuck this game sometimes. Cores always get their items no matter how many times you gank them.

What is the key to supporting and truly crushing a enemy core so that they are useless? Or does that not really happen?

Also, farming. Playing a support that can't farm sucks ass. Bounties are okay but lately cores have been hoarding those as well? Who are the bounties really for?
Also, what to do if you are forced to solo support? As in no one helping buy wards or dust or sentries?
>>
>>163755753
hide like a bitch
>>
>>163755753
teleport scroll away to another lane
>>
>>163755753
I can't answer all your questions, but don't play a defensive/passive support. Oracle, Dazzle, Abaddon, and even earlygame Omniknight are sub-par this patch. Pick gankers or supports that scale. Spirit breaker, nightstalker, slardar, bounty hunter. Some supports with insane utility can be good (like Rubick or Lion) but they're worse than before I think.

I find in a lot of my games, there's some enemy roamer that absolutely denies me/my support their own bounty runes. What is an oracle supposed to do solo against a Riki/BH/MK/Spirit breaker/Ogre magi/nightstalker coming in with an OoV to take their bounty rune? Even if cores are semi-nearby and come gank, it wastes an awful lot of time/gold/xp.
>>
Show evidence of any pro complimenting this patch.
>>
>>163755753
>How do you survive as a support?
Positioning, positioning, positioning.

>I feel like there aren't any good items in the long run that can really help you survive that PA dagger critting you for 900 damage and shit.
Eul's and Ghost Scepter?

>Cores always get their items no matter how many times you gank them.
Yes, but they get their items slower than your cores.

>What is the key to supporting and truly crushing a enemy core so that they are useless?
Only really happens if they're bad or your stomping.

>Bounties are okay but lately cores have been hoarding those as well? Who are the bounties really for?
Generally whoever can get to them. For cores if they're farm-poor, otherwise if they can comfortably farm lanes, they're for you.

>Also, what to do if you are forced to solo support?
Learn to play poverty support, I have to pretty much every game. Learn to manage your mana, return to base if you're out of it, and again, positioning.
>>
No one in the chat wants to play


you lied to me
>>
fuck this game and fuck this meta
>>
this would literally all be fixed if the jungle spawned every minute like it used to. new patch FUCKED herores like naga and terrorblade.
>>
>>163756928
>>163756973
just roll back to 6.8

I'm not even joking
>>
what the fuck is this shit
>>
>>163756826
I just got done playing with someone
>>
Valve has really improved the game performance
much smoother now
>>
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The massless field flux should self-limit.
>>
Monkey Nigger removed fomr the fucking game when
>>
>>163757816
>im a selfish asshole who wants to ruin the game for 9 other people while simultaneously losing 25 mmr
>>
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>>163757816
Rat dota my shit up senpai
>>
>>163757959
"Wow team I've been afk split pushing without taking towers for 25 minutes now, and you've totally lost the game !"
>>
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>Invoker Should have taken up science, Invoker, magic's long term prospects are dim!

Is he right?
>>
>>163758171
>R and D
Is he right?
>>
why did earth spirit have to be neutered si hard, holy hell
i get the nerfs that removed the braindead pull stun push rape combo that a paraplegic monkey could pull off at all times with the enemy having no chance of dodgng, and some of the effect and damage reduction

but icefrog loves pummeling this fucking hero
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>>163758324
>>
>>163758431
speaking of dark seer why the fuck does wall not do damage now its so fucking stupid.
>>
Who thought that giving a treenigger with 100 base damage a manaless invis that also stuns was a good idea.
>>
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>>163758431
Fixed, and summarized everything wrong with nudota.

>>163758523
Because reddit thought it was OP when retards kept running throough it in progames and dying
>>
>>163758569

>you will never experience the old cliff mechanics and vacuum 5 onto a cliff and wall

>you will never wall a an ulti'd dusa, instantly killing her

this game sucks now, family
>>
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This patch is str8 up garbo.

After 8k hours in Doto I think I'm slowly finishing up lads.
>>
>>163758431
>Dark Seer treatment

Hasn't my nigga Ish'Kafel been pretty much the same for countless patches except for tiny changes to Vacuum and now 7.00?
>>
>>163756973
>new patch FUCKED herores like naga and terrorblade.
Good, good. Farm the creep waves like all the other human beings.
>>
post yfw we go full circle and someone mods 6.88 dota so that everyone migrates
>>
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rate
>>
>>163749389
>0 synergy with his ultimate
>doesn't reduce incoming damage
??
>>
>>163759076
7/10 if you post the changed skadi buildup too
>>
>>163759076
pretty good item
>>
>>163759069
>every hero should play the same
boring
>>
>>163703608
>watching dread
>throwing on oracle against a techies
are all cis players this bad?
>>
>>163759502
i thought dread was the russian singsing
how wrong am i ?
>>
>>163759551
yeah but samsung is actually good
>>
>>163759631
>>163759631
>>163759631
>>
>>163704334

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