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Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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let's get christmas to a great start with some -25
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I wish I had a gf and not spend christmas fapping to dota porn
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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
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where's this fuckin poem & what's going on with scsgo?
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>>163621401
her head looks like it's been badly photoshopped on
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ON THE TWELVTH DAY OF CHRISTMAS MY DOTARD SEND TO ME

12 PROPHET TREANTS
11 SLOTTED SYLLA
10 HEROES FIGHTING
9 FUCKING RETARDS
8 DEATHS INVOKER
7 MINUTE GG
6 LEVEL DIFFERENCE
5 GOLD PER MINUTE
4 SHITTY TEAMMATES
3 STACK FROM PERU
2 GAME ABANDONS
AND A PUDGE HOOKING ME IN THE TREES
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>>163621528
>twelfth
>sent
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Alright lads, how do I Centaur Warrunner?

Is it Tranquil Boots, Blink Dagger, Hood of Defiance and 3 Hearts of Tarrasque?
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>>163621779
Bottle of Repick into Potion of Random or Dildo of Wet Doe Pussy
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>>163621868
kys you fucking redditor that's not even funny
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hello heretics
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MK's voice fucking sucks
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how good is the new zeus aghs
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>>163621528
>12 PROPHET TREANTS
>missing +6 opportunity
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>>163622085
literally worse than new gyro aghs
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>This is the most popular post on r/dota2 right now
Really activates my almonds.
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WHEN IS ESPORTS LA
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>>163622234
But anon

12 treants is 6 +6
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>>163622265
That doesn't tell us anything because gyro aghs is the second strongest aghs upgrade in the game.
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>>163622276
why are you posting reddit?
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>>163622234
>>163622340
>tfw no more +6 treants
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>>163622349
>side gunner
>good
yeah no and about why nimbus is the worst aghs
>can be destroyed like de dusg sigil
>gives money
>CANNOT BE MOVED
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BUFF ME
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>>163622825
>Warpath Max Stacks rescaled from 5/6/7 to 5/7/9
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How the fuck do you report people now
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>>163622825
new aghs

new ability: bristlefront
same shit as bristleback but now works if you got hit in the face
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how do you share your announcers and stuff now in match
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Anyone got an updated ward placement guide image?

>>163623150
>bristlefront
kek
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>>163623475
>>163623150
HEY WHAT ABOUT bristleside
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>>163622825
aghs

now grants new skill latch. bristle back can jump onto an ally and let them carry him. enemies hitting the front of the ally hurt bristle instead of the ally
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>>163623631
>coming out of my lane and i've been doing just fine, gotta gotta be down because i want it all
>it started out with a creep, how did it end up like this
>it was only a creep, it was only a creep
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>>163622636
>Tfw you have a mid zeus on your team who rushes aghs and has nothing else in 30 minutes
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>>163623150
AoE spike bullshit every second. Double radius of spikes.
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so whats the best possible creep Doom can devour including ancients

>Fireball
>Frenzy
>crit aura
>Desecrate

halp
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>>163624107
hp aura and the movespeed one
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>>163624107
satyr of repick
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What's your best hero d2g?
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Illusions deal damage to buildings because _____.
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>>163624242
Not quite sure, but I'm doing pretty good with Sven, Legion, Tusk and Venge lately
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>>163624314
the 9/11 was a farse just like illusions
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WHICH OF THE UNDEAD HEROES USED TO BE A NIGGER?
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I forgot what I was going to ask you guys
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>>163624242
timber PA OD mirana
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>>163624581
Was... Was it dicksize?
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>>163624242
jugg qop puck
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Is Crystal Maiden the cutest hero in Dota land?
These blue eyes and that blonde hair is so cute! I wonder how caressing her skin would feel like
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Hmph... You foolsdon't get why TERRORBLADE is the most POWERFUL hero in the universe. Psh. Nothing to worry about, KID. You'll understand one day, when you play against ME.
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>>163624242
Anti-Mage or Morphling

>tfw your best heroes aren't meta anymore
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>>163624242
Ogre Magi
Earthshaker
Faceless Void
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k
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>>163625426
Whaat?
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>>163625069
>Is Crystal Maiden the cutest hero in Dota land?
It´s windranger faggot
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why so dead dotards
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>>163625590
normalfag redditors are gone
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>>163625590
eurocucks are celebrating christmas and getting drunk

NA shitlords only come here to shitpost during esports

only real gameshitters are here
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>>163625590
Its christmas, we are all ingame trying to drown out our suicidal thoughts by playing nonstop
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>>163625590
D2g is only ever Alive due to /pol/ posting and everyone is with their families
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do people even play this game on the holidays
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>>163625775
No.
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>>163624314
illusions deal damage to heroes, why wouldnt they be able to demolish buildings? its like a laser, "just light" but can still destroy with sufficient intensity

better question is why can illusions survive beyond the first attack
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>NICE FUCKING GAY PATCH VOLVO

dotards?
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>>163625775
At least 20% of all dotards are lonely NEETs/robots

all those 20% are currently in-game queuing games back-to-back trying to increase their mmr
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>>163625671
>only real gameshitters are here
I am peruvian
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>>163625775
they would if there was something christmasy about it
didn't even get a shitty winter map this season
good
lord
valve
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>>163625856
No! Stop! I'm not taking 700 more posts of this!
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>>163625894
so gameshitters and literal monkeys

ok
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>>163624242
Timber.
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You idiotic fools... You are never going to reach high mmr!
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>he plays puck
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>he plays techies
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>>163626185
Puck is cute!
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hello fellow basement dweller
I turn 29 years old this month and look what I got?
Nothing.
I dropped out of college many years ago.
I have no job.No life or work or anything experience.
I look like shit.
IDK how long this will go on but I want it to end.
I wish I have enough courage to end it myself but,fuck it I am pathetic as fuck
DOta have and alway been my only way out.
my future is darker than Enigma black hole but atleast I can Bkb it
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tree is still shit
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>Why would a hero with a $40 cosmetic be overpowered
really stimulates the neurons
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>start doing a neutral camp
>teammate automatically starts trying to compete with me for them

why are dotards such faggots?
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>>163625884
based on the strawpolls d2g is like 60% NEET
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>>163624242
Best as in the one you play the best/most or the one on top of dotabuff?
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tfw I fuckign suck at Nature's Prophet but hes my favorite :(
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>>163626013
gameshitters are literal monkeys tho
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is 4k mmr high? is 4k mmr good?


I remember when I was 2k mmr. Becoming a 4k God seemed impossible. Now I am 4k and I still feel like a total shitter
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>>163626951
mmr, much like any other moba's leagues, tiers or whatever they use, means jack shit
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>>163624242

Troll Warlord, Anti-Mage, Faceless Void, Bloodseeker, Ember Spirit.

I like Agility cores with mobility and meme damage.
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>>163626951
I placed at 4k. I had like, 700 hours played.

And this was years ago, way before MMR inflation.

If i placed today i'd be at least 4.7k due to that.
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>>163626951
6k MMR is approximately "good" territory at this point.

But I kind of second >>163627045. 99.99999% of players are not going to go pro, so MMR doesn't really matter.
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>>163627068
I'm sitting at 4.5k right now. Calculated at 2.7k back in 2014.

What is your current mmr?

>inb4 4200
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>>163626034
that's a rare 'tail you've got there 'non

>>163627145
this. 6k is where you can start to claim to be "not shit".
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>>163626608

How is this surprising? a single game of Dota last about 40 minutes, only neets would have time to play this game on a regular basis

Loads of the changes of 7.00 were aimed at reducing average game time to no avail, expect more big changes to casualize the game EVEN MORE in order to reducing match time to 30 minutes tops
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>>163626951
MMR is literally a win-loss counter after a few hundred hours of playing ranked. Calibration requires money and there are no seasons or regular resets, so the predictive power of MMR has long since decayed.
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tfw starting college in february
tfw no more dotos
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>pick NP
>rush aghs
>ult whenever its up
>a+move to each lane
>trees barely pushing
>enemy team farms like crazy
>my team is starved and forced to jungle
>even I can't get into exp range
>by the time I reach lvl 25 they have a massive gold advantage
>we lose and I get reported

Merry xmas

:-)
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>>163626951
It's not bad. It's not good either but it's not entirely bad.
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>>163627238
>expect more big changes to casualize the game EVEN MORE in order to reducing match time to 30 minutes tops

Ironic since the only reason games take so long is the memeback rubberband mechanics they added to casualize it to begin with.

If you want games to end faster, then fucking make it possible for people to push highground before 40 minutes.
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>>163627551
>NP picker has a bad experience

its a Christmas miracle!
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>>163627145
>>163627191
If you don't play for MMR what do you play for?
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>hit 3512 mmr today
feels good to finally be 4k
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>>163627428
Why the fuck don't Valve introduced ladder seasons to DotA?
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>>163627238
>Loads of the changes of 7.00 were aimed at reducing average game time
I dont think so
You look at the big changes and think "yea this should reduce game times by LOADS" but then explain shrines. Got harder to gank mid or push out the suicide lane, and most importantly, uphill defense got boosted the fuck up in this patch, making everyone in a pub game to be at least 3/4 slotted to actually win the fucking thing.
Everyone thought that because of the changes that the game would get faster, but icefruads intent imo was to keep the game length the same. Just some bad numbers made them a bit harder. Wait for shrines to get patched and everything returns back to the average its always been.
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>>163627796
This, would be so cool to mock my friends being a step low than me, would revive dota tbhwyf
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Rate my match

Who here only plays against bots too? far more enjoyable experience to be honest my dudes, 100+ hours and I never played with real people
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>>163628087
dies 12
>12
>TWELVE
times against bots
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If Balanar the Night Stalker was hunting your waifu (Or closest family member if you dont have one) would you try to stop him? If yes then how would you do it?
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>>163628087
>5/12
>against fucking bots

WHAT THE FUCK MY SIDES
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>>163628087
>5/12
well, at least you won
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>>163628216
ward his jungle
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>>163628173
The bots were on hard though
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>>163626389
Bkb doesnt even stop black hole, not even the damage.

Its like the inevitability of death. You can try to avoid it, but it will end one day..
And you're just going to have to accept this and move on
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ban test
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>>163628478
FAGGOT
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>>163627583
>>163627951

That's because Icefraud bailed out of Valve long ago, most of the changes were result of Valve's think tanks, the same that thought the new UI was an improvement so they went and added the changes being downright clueless about the game overall
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>>163628505
>no source

wew
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What the hell do LoL streamers even do when their game has no personality?
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>>163628674
they wait in queue for 30 minutes and play hearthstone
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>>163628547
>>no source
Not him but you can see that chilly toad isnt working on the game anymore from the patch notes, style of writing and new skill, how they are formatted and everything
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>>163628267
>Not even unfair bots which even so are absolutely retarded

You might as well go play some singleplayer game for a much richer experience
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>>163626951
Personal perception of it
Less than 2k is braindead garbage who should not be playing this game
Less than 3k is fucking baddie who is pretty dumb
Less than 4k is almost not shit, but still garbage
4k is almost decent but any idiot could get there by playing what theyre good at
4.5k is almost good, still pretty bad, but closing in on good territory
5k-6k is actually pretty good, well done, you understand dota
6k+ is great.
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>>163628674
this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZvBTSJJWU4&t=44m
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>>163628702
>but you can see that

That's not a source retard.
>style of writing and new skill

Wow nice fucking argument retard. How about you back some of this up if you can focus on it so much with some actual citations.
>how they are formatted and everything

L U L
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>>163628814
and people called Dota's UI huge jesus fucking christ
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>>163628835
I never said its source, i just told you you can see some changes there, try looking around and you will see what i mean
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>>163628674
If LoL had no personality why is Valve molding Dota 2 to be more like LoL?

UI - Check
Easy Jungling - Check
Increased XPM and GPM - Check
Team Fights and Kills > Farming - Check
20-40 minute games of constant fighting - Check

Things left to change
Denying removed
Roshan grants team buff
Global talents/spells
Heroes locked behind paywall
Heroes able to be picked twice (one per team)
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>>163628674
have big tits and revealing clothing
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>>163628952
>you can see

why don't you point some out then retard
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>>163628776
>you understand dota

tbqhwu it could be argued that literally anyone who isn't a pro player doesn't understand dota

and even then you have retards like bulldumb that are 1k except with like 5 heroes
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>le icefag is based god that would never do anything wrong, if anything is wrong then its not his doing
really should let that sink in
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>>163628973
to appeal to the LoL audience?
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>>163628973
Do people actually fall for these posts?
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>>163628898
>and people called Dota's UI huge
Here is the shop menu in League of Lulz.
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Rat DotA status?
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>>163628814
>40 min, 4 kills
>Team destroys 7 (SEVEN) buildings after one team fight and win the game
Shit like this is why LoL is such a terrible game, 5 turrets down before anyone in the enemy team even re-spawned is ridiculous
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>>163628973
UI can hardly be said to be modelled after LoL when the UI needed a revamp anyways.

The only 'easy jungling' in the last several patches was Iron Talon. Which got nerfed heavily from 40% to 24% bonus damage for melee.

They didn't increase XPM or GPM from the jungle.

LoL literally doesn't have any kills, it's farm for 20 minutes and teamfight once, get Roshan and GG.
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>>163629148
You don't lose gold on death, you can only buy at the shrine. You don't need a small shop in league.
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say a FUN hero and different mechanics to play on 2,6k brasil
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The cancer in 7.00 that is killing dota
>jungle spawns nerfed in 7.00
>jungle bounties nerfed in 6.84
>kill aoe gold buffed in 6.82
>kill exp buffed recently
>shrines that allow constant ganks
>towers falling too fast
>games snowballing to 20 min ends
>a single kill allows the enemy team to get tons of gold despite not farming any creeps all game
>carries can't carry against teams that run at them
>ganking playstyles trump all the others especially carrying and only memepushing comes second
>support pudges hooking heroes 3 times his networth and solo killing them
>brain dead heroes like slark, PA, huskar, sniper, drow and pudge are stronger than heroes that require skill to play such as visage and chen
>buying an early midas means you lose because the enemy team will snowball and roll you over and end the game by 20 minutes because you didn't buy instant memefighting items like drums or HOTD or sny or SHIT
>all carry players including rtz(lmao even this nigger) have been in pain since 6.81
>meme teamfights and run-at-face-as-five dota is constantly pushed as an agenda by that enslaved icefrog faggot so games are "entertaining"

FUCK THIS NO SKILL GAME FUCK IT.
AND FUCK VALVE DRONES....

>>163629201
Dead because they use the shrines to teleport behind your ass as you rat so you can't get away with it.
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>>163628973
>20-40 minute games of constant fighting

That's HotS though, League is literally the opposite, and in an even worse way.
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>>163629286
Mid or Meepo of course.
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>>163629254
Dota 2 7.00 is literally 5 mid get kills steam roll T1-T3 get racks at 8 minutes and lose because the enemy carry killed your carry once. gaining 50,000 gold and 1,000,000 experience.
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cant believe fdl disbanded on christmas lads
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>>163629286
Dagon eblade NP

>>163629429
Haha beesa get rekt
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>>163628973
>Team Fights and Kills > Farming - Check
>20-40 minute games of constant fighting - Check

Someone post that pic
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>>163629350
>meme teamfights and run-at-face-as-five dota is constantly pushed as an agenda by that enslaved icefrog faggot so games are "entertaining"
Pretty much this
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I'm honestly starting to really hate dota
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>>163629429
did they really?
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Nice patch, dotards.
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>>163629450
dont be rude

>>163629513
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/472027-official-off-topic-general-discussion?page=7826#156504
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>>163629558
Shut up smug faggot. We all know this.
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>>163629429
good
literally worth nothing
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>>163629753
how 2 slardar
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How is Dota 2 7.00 aka NuDota2 aka League of the Storms aka Heroes of Legends?
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>>163629378
honestly the comeback mechanics seem worthless this patch anyway since once one team starts to snowball the other will never kill their cores
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>>163628973
>>163629103
>>163629350
>>163629473
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>>163629881
fresh meem
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>Play Oracle ranked
>You should've disarmed sniper
>Why did you ult yourself
>Why didn't you purge my debuff and waste mana after an engagement

Why do I get backseat driven on this fucking hero so much? People seem to think FE has 2000 range that I can cast from across a teamfight and Oracle has VS's aghs passively. Every single fucking time I get "advice" it's a Peruvian carry shitter with <5 games of Oracle that somehow has worse KDA than the support.

/blog
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>>163629254
>LoL literally doesn't have any kills, it's farm for 20 minutes and teamfight once, get Roshan and GG.
I might have to unironically check league out
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>>163629254
>LoL literally doesn't have any kills, it's farm for 20 minutes and teamfight once, get Roshan and GG.
Sounds kinda better than current NuDota2 aka Dota of the Storm.
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>>163630172
It is 2-2 at 50 minutes
Literally ancient-china doto
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>>163629881
I know nothing about league you flaming faggot. If you look at the evolution of dota, you will see that icefrog has always let overpowered fucking strats be dominant for months and even years. When there was the sentinel and scourge split in the competitive scene, he barely balanced around it. The sentinel had both chen and enchantress and the scourge had no counter to it so they literally had to switch to all pick for tourneys because icefaggot refused to balance the game properly based on the split.
When VP was ganking everyone and ending games in 20 minutes(like today's dota) back in 2008 or 2009 or some shit, he refused to respond fast enough to it. I have this feeling that he's always loaded with cocaine and hookers and never watches pro games to see what looks OP till everyone gets fed up with the patch.
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>>163624242
meepo, lina, sf, all mid ofc
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>>163630328
Current Icecfrog just browses reddit for changes and changes accordingly ever since 6.79
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how to find out what song is playing on a stream

i like singsings weeabo songs but twitchecho is broken
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>>163630480
He was always shit. Dota might be relatively balanced now but we give icefrog too much credit. Anyone with less than half a brain can do what he does. And he responds too fucking slow to everything and always has. He's just a random faggot that changed numbers on a custom map and anyone can make a custom map. It's not even real programming or coding.
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>>163630830
we give icefrog credit not for what he does, but for what he restrained from doing. that quality has been slowly dissipating in the last couple of patches though
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>>163630480
Meanwhile every redditor and twitch monkey types "ICEFROG IS A BALANCE GOD, PRAY TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE". This religion is the reason the playerbase forgives the shit agenda being pushed by valve and icefraud.
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>>163630434
>not offlaning SF
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>>163629989
>>163630172
This confirms my suspicion that hard carry players are just League shitters
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>>163631236
They stole ideas from HOTS
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>when you first pick random and your team gives you shit because you """"wasted""""" the first pick
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>>163629934
>play winter wyvern
>if you heal someone and they die it's your fault
>if you don't heal someone and they die it's your fault
>if you use your ultimate and you lose the fight it's your fault
>if you don't it's still your fault
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>>163624242
Slark because I'm a cancerous fuck
still feels good to drink redditor tears though
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>>163631236
Merry Christmas, dotards.
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Silver Era Dota - 6.00 - 6.69
Golden Era Dota TI1-TI3
Recession TI4-TI5
Dark Era Dota Post T15

I miss Golden Era Dota, even if /d2g/ was nothing but blog posting then
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It's Christmas dotards.
Why are you shitposting instead of spending time with your family?
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>>163631363
They stole the UI from LoL though.
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>>163631578
Im buddist
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>>163631578
>2016
>having a "family"
Hahaha
haha...
ha.
;_;
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>>163631578
The people here are my family.
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>>163631584
>LoL
lol
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>dotards are literally killing themselves

tough shit dotards
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>>163631762
Buy the new Monkey King Arcana.
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I remember them good old dota days when I can walk up to the safelane, farm my creeps, get a midas and secure my late game.

Nowadays I just 5man deathball the enemy team until one of us wins
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>>163624242
Clockwerk master race, used to be great with Necro too but he's not as fun without meme aghs.
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>>163631578
>implying I'm not doing both
Phones exist for a reason.
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On behalf of r/leagueoflegends, Merry Christmas to everyone in here!!

Here's to an amazing 2017, with drama, memes, updates and alot of fun!
Forget the bad blood ( for now, heeheh) and Merry Christmas!!
EDIT: Didn't mean to start a discussion , no second intentions with this post, lets just leave it behind and appreciate Christmas!
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>>163631872
Remember how 5 manning was punished because kills weren't as valuable?
If you ganked a lane as 5, the other two lanes got more free farm and experience than you did, so people used to do it less.
Those days the best you could do was 3 man gank another lane, which meant that individual skill mattered more than simply outnumbering the enemy. Memefight deathball fangays will argue that outnumbering the enemy takes skill because 5 people are working together as a team.
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>>163631872
Sorry Dota is now designed around those who have short attention spans and need constant action 24/7 no more farming for you, go kill heroes.

Gotta be entertaining for twitch kiddies
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>>163624242
Invoker, Timber or Visage.

What does that mean?
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>>163624242
Pudge
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>>163632193
heeheeh
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>>163632286
You're an insufferable faggot.
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PLEASE REMOVE NERF FROM VISAGE BIRDS
PLEASE REMOVE NERF FROM VISAGE BIRDS PLEASE REMOVE NERF FROM VISAGE BIRDS
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>>163625748
>go to spend christmas with family
>uncle and father are even more /pol/ than /d2g/
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>>163632392
okay done anon
anything else you'd like me to do?
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>>163632485
disable the servers
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>>163632432
>/pol/ are normies
Thanks for giving me another reason to hate /pol/ and make threads on /qa/ to discuss about deleting it.
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>>163632485
tell valve to fuck off and stop letting them change your game
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>>163632376
Thanks, fäm. Thats what I was hoping for.
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>>163632217
Why does something need to be entertaining to appeal to twitch? Tons of people watch LoL after all.
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if i cast aphotic shield on an enemy will it deal damage to that enemy when it pops, or only units around it?
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>>163632545
hicks != normies
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meri kurisumasu
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>>163632210
5v5 teamfights take more skill and coordination than 1v1, 2v2 etc where hero matchups hard-code what happens by default
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>>163632792
it's still christmas eve you fucking goon
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>>163632485
Nerf slark, pudge, PA, sniper, drow, and (insert brain dead OP HERO HERE) to the ground. Make tier 2 towers do 500 damage per hit and make tier 3 towers do AOE damage. Give tier 1 towers backdoor protection and make them attack every enemy hero that runs under it and buff the tower damage to 200 so you cannot dive without a vangaurd. Make jungle spawn every minute. Make roshan a raid boss and the neutral creeps his subjects after 30 minutes. Make shrines attack like the fountain.
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>>163632843
what
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>steal talent trees and shrines from HotS
>literally copy/paste UI from league
When did Valve start being so shit and uncreative?
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>>163632978
>Nerf slark
Sure lets keep nerfing slark because you're terrible at Dota
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>>163632879
It's only a 5v5 teamfight if the other team brings in 5. Most of the time, these days, you're just roaming as 5 to kill single heroes and getting more out of it than enemy team farms while you're doing it because the entire teams net worth, not the gank victims, affects the kill.
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>>163632843
>family
>functional human beings

o i am laffin
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>>163632886
So how do I differentiate myself from the other normie NEETs, senpai?
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>>163624242
Lina
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>>163633126
You don't. We're all normies.
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I still can't accept Shrines it puts me off so much.

It's like why.
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>>163633098
>Most of the time, these days, you're just roaming as 5 to kill single heroes
false

if being split up had no upside at all, then everyone would 5man and your scenario would not exist.

if being split up had a benefit, then both teams would balance that benefit with the benefits of grouping up. so your scenario doesn't exist either.
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>aunt asks me if I have a gf
>I say "n-no"
>Why not?
back to Dota
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NYAWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

MERRY XMAS DOTURDS!!!!!!!!!!!

TURDS


TUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTUTURDS
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>>163633204
DELETE THIS
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>>163633330
IT'S CHRISTMAS EVE NOT CHRISTMAS YOU THIRD WORLDER FU CK
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>>163633458
EHEHEHE

huggies
>:3
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>>163631578
YOU ARE MY FAMILY FAMALAM
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>>163633305
The scenario I'm describing does take place all the time in this patch and the team that is split up loses. That's why it's happening less and less. Being split up is less and less beneficial and people are only doing it out of habit. Memeback was a mistake.
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>>163633330
It's not christmas for another 6 hours and 25 minutes
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>weaver with aghs and blink
>pudge

Is there any team on the planet for which those two are not the best support/utility cores in the game? Pudge is GoodBatrider, GoodClock, GoodBane, etc. while Aghs Weaver is GoodAbbadon, GoodSD, GoodVenge, etc.
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>play dota 2
>get grouped up in texas chat
>someone asks for some m4m action, mostly asking for handjob
>is actually nearby

Um, do I take the chance and risk being murdered and give some neet a handjob for christmas or no?
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>SingX2 is streaming on Christmas instead of spending time with his family
D-dotards..?
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>>163633517
>90% of murders
>mass genocide

Literally the inverse bizarro world version of Tumblr where feelings of persecution are reality
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>>163633340
why would you even gas jews?
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>>163633116
>His family is dysfunctional
Apple doesn't fall far from the tree
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>>163633774
why would you even consider that you prancing lala homo fag
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>>163633819
not him but nice grammar family
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>>163633859
Are people actually unironically gay?
It has to be a joke
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>>163633567
>blaming memeback for that dynamic

if 5 manning gave that much gold then it would only help the 5-manning team stay level - which is the point.

splitting up and farming is only meant to be a viable strat if you have a better lategame, but if you keep dying and lose all your towers because you can't win teamfights even with shrines then it's because your team wasn't playing a defensive strat well enough.

dota is balanced for teams with proper supports and warding, 5v5 shitting was always going to be the inevitable consequence of the game being balanced correctly because actual strategy should require proper teamwork or Dota is basically a PvE game.
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>>163633802
He's Chinese,they don't believe in Jesus because they're not real humans.
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>>163634056
>5v5 shitting
5v5 shitting in pubs, I meant to write
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>>163633859
I'm a kissless neet virgin who is bicurious and see no harm in stroking a dude
>>163633798
I don't understand, stopping/preventing people in mass who kill others in mass is bad because?
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>got matched with safelane luna with midas brown boots and aghs

Go on, im read for all these "you are where you belong" memes
This is 4100
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>>163631371
The curse of supporting with skills that have more complexity than x second stun.
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Has science gone too far?
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>>163633517
>90% of murders
what retard made this post
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>>163632886
>/pol/ isn't the 2006 /pol/
/new/ (old /pol/) didn't even exist then, what the fuck are you talking about.
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Hi is this the thread for a trap futa gf?
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I haven't played Dota since Summer 2015.

What has changed? What is the meta?

Where is the kpop poster?
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>>163634604
NEVER FUCK THE TUPA MY DUDE
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>>163634056
>implying valve wants your defensive starts to be successful
5 manning allows you to kill everyone you encounter because the team getting the jump wins most engagements. After that you get an objective. You just repeat this till you win. When the enemy rat tries to get a tier 2 in response, you tp to your shrine and backstab him. This means the only way to counter the death ball is your own death ball. If you picked a lategame defensive lineup, you still have to fight because if you stay defensive you will lose the game before 25 minutes. The enemy team doesn't even have to pick heroes like jakiro or pugna or lycan because towers will fall anyway due to the power creep which makes everyone a better pusher than jakiro and pugna.
>proper supports and warding
You say as your 3k net worth level 6 pudge/PA hooks/daggers the 10k net worth level 10 chaosknight and solo kills him. "Proper" supports are easy to play while harder heroes like chen and visage would never be able to do the thing pudge/PA do.
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>>163634679
The meta is 24/7 memefights with no strategy because reddit.

Even if this sounds fun to you, you will still hate it because half of current players are autistic hard carry spammers that will throw the game by idle farming while all of your buildings are sieged.
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>>163634679
Base game plays like -APEM now, aka XPM and GPM has been increased overall.
Constant team fighting is encouraged over static farming ie, it's better to gank as 5 all game then to farm.
Games average around 20-30 minutes in length.
UI changed to cater to new players, important information hidden.
Talent Trees added, mostly useless but some heroes get overpowered shit.

Meta is all about kills, fuck farming, kill heroes and win.
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>>163634690
>noone said this though

>lying on the internet in the current year

also http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/
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>>163634690
That's what you mean by "mass killing". I know /pol/tards always say that "if 1 white man was killed, we should kill a million blacks because we want to them to learn a lesson and never mess with us superior beings".
>a black guy kills another black in his own country
Let's nuke these blacks or enslave them because they're not living their lives correctly! Let's make them take up Christianity!

You've already done this.
>>
what if trees casted random spell every time they get destroyed
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>>163634824
>>163634850

>tfw I liked farming then coming online to fuck shit up

Requesting the AM comic.
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>>163634947
>noone said this though
Point on in this thread where someone said that we should kill off all x or y because of the crimes of the majoirty
>politifact
might as well be linking Salon or CNN my dude
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>>163626449
3 second fade time, 2,2 second stun
You can eternally malefice any enemy through bkb
Learn 2 play faggot
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>>163635052
>tango tree
>black hole out of nowhere
>summon treants
>game crashes
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>>163625850
Who the fuck said they are OPTICAL illusions?
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BOY
IS
STREAMING
DOTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
ARTEEZY

ARTEEZY
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>>163635107
>Point on in this thread where someone said that we should kill off all x or y because of the crimes of the majoirty
"stopping/preventing people in mass who kill others"
>>politifact
not an argument
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>>163634947
>politifact

Even The Onion would make a more reputable source
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>/b/ started the reddit invasion
>/v/ ended attempts to drive them out
>/pol/ has completed the complete reddit resettlement of 4chan
>4chan is now LITERALLY BadReddit

Reminder that /v/, /b/, and /pol/ are LITERALLY the same trash.
>>
tfw suffer from Anhedonia and Depression and just spend my days browsing r/dota2 and /d2g/ to avoid thinking about my life
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>play support
>lose against 5 carries

>play carry
>nobody supports
>not evne a courier
>lose against 3 supports

SIMPLY EPIC VALVE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>163633458
>NA tards
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>>163635107
You know why whites don't commit crimes? It's because they prefer to do it in an organized way. Take for example the Iraq war. Nice genocide for no reason! The Vietnam war was another example of fucking up another country for no reason. But those aren't "crimes" are they?
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>>163635309
Linking politifact is link a trumpet linking breitbart.
Also tell me how stopping the people who kill others is bad? That comment specifically says the people who kill others, not the entire race of said people.
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>arteezy is live

its a christmas miracle guys
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>>163635339
as opposed to a random uncited picture from normiebook?
>>163635429
stop being a liberal faggot, all serious crime is rare and declining in the US
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>>163634760
until a pro meta develops this is all speculation. halving camp respawns just has everyone running at each other and fighting constantly so snowballing of ganking lineups is the natural result.

plus at the pro level a "greedy" team isn't going to pick ultra-hard carries against pudge and PA, they're going to pick something that is good against those heroes because of DRAFTING - if a real team is obviously just picking run at you heroes then a defensive strat actually benefits more from shrines. plus AoE gold got nerfed relative to last patch.

stop trying to use hard carry vs 5 gank pubs as a basis for how the game is actually balanced, that's not how actual dota works.
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>>163635515
Illegal wars are crimes too. And /pol/tards are the ones that do them to "spread superior capitalism" whether the other country likes it or not.
>>
what if we migrate all this high quality political discussion that is very important to /pol/, reddit or facebook?
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>>163635515
>sourced from crime statistic burea is normiebook
>politifact is fine

lol
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>>163635570
Carry strat>gank strat>push strat>carry strat
But not anymore though. Now gank strats trump all others. Just pick pudge and hook them for 450 pure damage on 4 second cooldowns.
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>>163635456
>Also tell me how stopping the people who kill others is bad?
it's not which why it already happens
/pol/ are autistic schizos that think 99% of blacks are serial rapists that go free because of liberalism
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>>163635614
See
>>163635341

/pol/tards literally see no difference between reddit and 4chan
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>>163635753
>/pol/ are autistic schizos that think 99% of blacks are serial rapists that go free because of liberalism
source?
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YOU'RE NOT WATCHING ARTEEZY ON CHRISTMAS DAY ARE YOU?
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>>163635698
>stats are literally fabricated
>liberal site compares them to actual stats

lul
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>>163635832
>source?
i'm gonna go ahead and guess the source is reading /pol/
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>bulba first picks arteezy's jugg
>then swaps someone on his team

top kek
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>>163635731
you are talking as if gank strats couldn't also be carry strats. the classic 4p1 with AM involved two gankers who would move around the map non-stop making space

example: the fucking final game of TI6.
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>>163635832
it's all i can possibly glean from them, they are literally inverse SJW liberals
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>>163635947
you're making a claim that 99% of pol believes that, how can we believe said claim if you cant provide a source my dude
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>>163635731
>>163635953
Remember that people have to develop farming patterns and timings all over again. Give it time and carries will return.
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>>163635731
>Carry strat>gank strat

lolol? the counter to gank is 5-man teamfight and sustain. snowballing with ganks is the DIRECT counter to lategame carries.
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>pick axe
>buy stout and 2 salves
>get bounty
>go jungle and kill neutrals
>use salve if low hp while spinning
>kill the ancient while selfishly using the shrine alone
>go to the other camp get bounty and farm the neutrals while I wait for the other camp to respawn
>selfishly use the other shrine as well
thanks icetoad
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>>163635060
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Why doesn't Artour go Dragon Lance on Clinkz?
Would that squishy as fuck hero benefit greatly from the stats and added range?
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>>163636098
this. basically support have to help carries farm to get them the same GPMs as before - the significance of stacking actually got increased, not decreased, by halving respawn rates. but in pubs the supports are just fighting non-stop instead.

in real games supports will divide their time depending on what the best option is, like before. ganking will NOT be as reliable a GPM fountain vs actual teams.
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>Even on Christmas eve /d2g/ is full of twitch kids that think anyone but other twitch kids give a fuck about a majorless uzbek team assassin
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>>163636185

ty senpai
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>>163636280
Clinkz gets in close and just kills people he doesn't need range when he's at max movespeed while invis with an attack speed steroid, he wants damage.
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>>163636280
the hero needs dmg
>>
Pre- LoL era dota: Farm, Farm, Farm, Farm, exit woods at level 25 and 6 slotted.

Post- Lol era Dota: Team fight, teamfight, push racks, teamfight, win.
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>>163636136
oh yea I forgot you can salve while getting hit now
who is a good jungler who can farm 4k~5k in 10mins now? Axe is boring can spectre do that?
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>>163621779

Most of the times I go quelling > tangos > stout into tranquils rush into vanguard and straight into blink. Hood should be get only if they have a magic heavy lineup. After that if I have a lot of gold I invest into a heart or if going behind I go straight into aghs.

Offlane is the default, but if somebody tells me that they want solo I go jungle and I can still get a fast vanguard into boots into blink.

Don't understimate return and always get return aura unless they have slippery shit like slark, morph or AM since you need more cc for your Q.

Finally value point in Q, max W, 3 points in return and then max accordingly.

t. Centaur warruner mainer

suscribe to my blog etc. etc
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>>163624242
Crystal Maiden because blondes are my weakness.
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>>163636284
We had a few real games. They had snowball teamfight/gank dota as the dominant strat. Because it beats pushers like pugna/jakiro/chen and also gains gold faster than carries that are last hitting.
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>>163636426
thank you kind sir, capped for reference
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>>163635342
TFW no job no life no friend no social interaction no $$ and doing the same thing
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Artour streaming for us on christmas
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>>163636280
Not really. Your abilities are how you get HP, damage and attack range (positioning). It's not a BAD item by any means, but it is pretty redundant.
What you want is a cheap medallion and treads for stats. Pop medallion, cast strafe and watch shitters melt.
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>prelol dota

isn't that like 7 years ago
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Anyone here play Techies? I feel like I'm the only one that ever touches them.

Getting back into the game and I want to learn the ways of 7.00 Techies.
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>>163636413
>can spectre who is known for her late game prowess win in a constant fighting meta?
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>>163636665
its more teamfight techies, no more afk planting mines for the entire game
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>RTC SHITTING ON WAIFU RUNNER

NOT /OUR/

NOT /OUR/
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>>163636626

Let me shortcircuit the stupid conversation that is about to happen

>prelol dota, aka dota rising
Before I started playing

>golden age of dota
When I started playing

>post loldota
After the patch that first triggered my baby duck syndrome
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How to play 7.01
Step 1: Pick a hero that excels in the early game, go offlane or roam. Applicable heroes are Earthshaker, Gondor, Monkey King, Chen, Rhasta, Lion, Venge, etc.. Anyone that can ensure a gank at level 1 or 2 with another hero.

Step 2: Either go bottle, or Tranquils/Soul Ring. You will almost always gank after getting boots, if you're gondor or monkey king you can go windlace orb starting and start ganking at level 2. Gank Mid 2-3 times and then get enough gold to transition into support items (Mek/Mana boots) and begin pushing

3.) Push, Push, Push. Ping all your allies, ping them hard. Push towers and smoke immediately after pushing and catch stragglers.

4.) Win Dota, because it's all about the memepush again
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>>163636749
which patch are you talking about prelol dota was 7 fucking years ago m8
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>>163636665
you're not the only one
7.00 rework is too good i never got reported
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>>163636413
>4 k in 10 mins farming jungle
lol no
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>>163636749
>tfw hate apple's new phone because lack of 3.5mm audio jack
>tfw others call me a babyduck
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>>163636584
like the post I was replying to said, it will take time to adapt. nothing about gank strats was actually buffed, shrines and AoE gold even make gank strats mechanically weaker.
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>>163636606

I forgot to mention my mang.

While the idea of 3 or more hearts is hilarious and tempting having 2 hearts is the best for cent since otherwise he would't have enough mobility to initiate with blink or BoTs.

Now if you want to meme it up and are showering in money I usually get shit like E-blade, Shivas and maybe upgrade my vanguard into abyssal blade to guarantee more burst against supports and cc against bkb'ed carries.

As always there is not a set item build for my man cent just itemize accordingly.

I'm actually glad I helped someone in the gulag whenever I ask for tips nobody replies back ;_; Thank you based anon.
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>Dota is like LoL now

....how would you know Dota is like LoL unless you've played LoL recently?
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Can I have pre-nerf Arc Warden again?
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>>163628087
I cannot even begin to imagine how poorly you would do in an actual match
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>>163636997
They are just taking shit out of their asses famalam, filter is your friend
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>>163636997
aaigth you got me bro
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>>163636997
No..It w-was actually HoTS like
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>>163636997
Dota 2 didn't exist when LoL started.
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>>163637024
He's still good, just build him carry with Bloodthorn/Deso stuff. His Spark Wraith damage is stupid good and the purge on it was a huge buff.
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>>163633913
Do you not know that phrase anon

>Ourteezy is live
It's a Christmas miracle

>Mfw the NEETs who are megatriggered by rtz are the only ones actively watching dota tonight
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>>163634679
kpop poster here


we're hated among the dotards
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>Artour losing with pudge, WR, Clinkz, and clock
>vs Magnus Ember Bounty Jug

clearly gank strats are UP and lategame carries with teamfight and push should be nerfed.
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>>163637129
He's just a budget-tinker right now.
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>>163637192
i think it has to do with more of the fact that clock and wr are peruvian
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Friendly reminder that anyone who compares the current state of Dota 2 to LoL or HotS at any given time is talking out of their ass, they're not similar in any way shape or form.

LoL is still soccer, Dota is still rugby, and HotS is still pinball.
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>>163637218
He's not even Tinker though, you just build damage like a carry on Arc Warden, you don't need any mana or even stats because his skills are very, very cheap.

>Ult - no mana
>Spark Wraith 4 sec CD 80 mana
>Flux, 18 sec CD 75 mana
>Magnetic Field 20 second CD 110 mana

His mana costs are so low and his ultimate is basically free usage of them. There's no reason to build mana.
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>your base is under attack
how fucking lazy is valve exactly?
this announcer line was already in the game, unused
they didn't even bother recording one or two new voice lines for shrines
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>>163637185
Fuck off gookshitting plastic lover
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>>163636695
>>163636836
Teach me some tips of the ways. Starting items and what to do during laning phase.

I should be good after that and playing a couple games. I just don't want to be a piece of shit in the first game.
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>>163636926
Valve Cocksuckers are the worst.
They could change it so all UI elements are hidden unless you hold CTRL+ALT+Right Shift and they would defend it saying you should adapt or quit playing, silencing all dissenting opinions as "baby duck syndrome"
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>>163637324
what about smite??
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>>163637409
oh right

LoL is still soccer, Dota is still rugby, HotS is still pinball, and Smite is still irrelevant.
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>>163637383
>how fucking lazy is valve exactly?
lol

>>163637389
what I like to do is run to the jungle hard camp and plant three mines, when the jungle spawns you get your instant lv2 or very close. I still just buy a bunch of clarities and rush soulring
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>>163637383
I want them to just record it themselves, like just grab a random guy on the team to record the line; not even try to get the original voice. I really want "Your Shrine is under attack" spoken by some unenthusiastic intern who hates his life and really just wants to go home but works for valve because he unironically believed it was the best company to work for.
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>dotards learning what baby duck syndrome is

>Mad because it defines their garbage invalid opinions to a T.

>B-but if you disagree you're a valve drone!!!!
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>>163637386
Here u go


OnT: Is spectre good now?
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What did he mean by this?
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>>163637468
nah i wouldnt put hots before smite.
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>>163637468
Smite is 1:1 to Dota except it's in third person.
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>>163637468
>>163637409
this is smite
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>>163637567
>yfw golden age Fnatic regroups
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>vocaroo anon isn't doing a dramatic thread reading on christmas eve

feels bad man
will someone step up to the task?

>>163637560
Claiming all change is good and calling anyone who disagrees as baby ducks is silly though.
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>>163637620
it quite fun though,and i play it to relieve my stress after having too much dota
And it just like dota 7.00 full of fight,you dont even have time to shit talk
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>>163636792
Good tips but I would change get bottle to get wind lace boots and sustain. Abuse the bounty runes and the shrines.
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God gulag why is silencer so FUCKING SHIT for 3 patches straight.

>His great harassing skill that burned mana is gone now (it was gimmicky as fuck it could have been eve better with a little tweaking)
>His fucking E is hot garbage and doesn't contribute in nothing to a teamfight
>His ult is can be easily dispelled and costs a fuck ton of mana and don't make me mention the cd
>Asides from his final talent the rest of his talents are useless

If you play him as a core in mid he might be able to snowball enough to win a game but otherwise if you pick him as a support he dies to a breeze. I just want him to be viable.
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>>163637690
It's objectively better my dunning krugering imprinted friend
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>>163637690
Claiming all change is bad and calling anyone who disagrees as a valvedrone or an [insert another moba] player is also silly.
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6.78 Dota 2 > WC3 Dota > 6.88 Dota 2 > HoN > 7.00 Dota 2 > HotS > LoL > Smite > Awesomenaughts > Stillborn
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>>163637567
Wish it's not just a tier 3 team
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>>163637684
literal fuccbois + trixi
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>>163637770
git gud silencer is good for 2 patches in a row
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>>163636792
You mean

>step 1
pick luna
>step 2
win safelane, you should be capable of doing this on your own
>step 3
steamroll towers with your friends
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>>163637684
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>>163637794
Objectively correct.
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>you pick the king formerly known as skeleton
>enemy "counter picks" with antimage
>win

love it
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>>163637561
mina isnt even pretty
momo is best
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>>163637792
But almost noone is doing that, it's usually the other way my friend.
There are good changes but there are also bad changes, listing the bad changes doesn't make you a babyduck. The UI is an improvement, but it's design doesn't make sense (hiding attributes behind a mouseover, or always showing a tree you use 4 times a game), cslul in top left corner over hero portraits, etc.
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>>163637853
What is the german doing anyway? I forgot his name

Era is playing for team noname
Trixi is streaming and being depressed
noLans and jew are winning lans
but the german?
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>>163637794
nostalgia fag
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>>163636792
>Rhasta, Chen, Gondor
Oh look at me I'm an oldfag, I know all the hero's names~
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>he suffers from baby duck syndrome
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>>163636703
but windrunner IS shit

she needs like

at least THREE items to come on line, and she has no way of farming

so if she has a bad laning phase, she's as good as fucked.
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>>163637941
mina is pretty you fucking shiteater

chaeyoung or nayeon are best tho
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>>163637962
i think he either casts or does some management shit for an esports firm
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>go for a system 23 jumps away in E:D
>realize I forgot my fuel scoop 2 jumps in
>have to go back and land on a planet and equip it
>>
>arteezy confirming forced 50
today is a miraculous day my friends
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if any hero needs a buff it's Chen

>Lycan literally has a better version of Hand of God on a sub-minute cool down

>Hand of God has a fuck huge cooldown now when Aghs was supposed to reduce it
>Chen Creeps are worse than HoD in every way, 1000 min health instead of 1400 and no movement speed increase, 300 move speed creeps all game
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>>163637770
Silencer has been a mid core since forever, have you seen the kind of damage his glaives can do? Spam spells, pop MoM and watch people explode.
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>>163637974
>uinironically believing stillborn is better than dota
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>>163638096
we all had bad taste at one point i guess
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>pros confirm the forcing of the 50% winrate

>d2g will continue to deny it
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>>163638350
did pros confirm this post?
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>emoji posting unironically is now okay
What happened?
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>PLs bonus Agi from Phantom Rush applies after the first hit


What the fuck is this shit, why not just delete the hero.
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>>163638325
Momo is the hottest, but not the best.
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>>163638449
Millennials happened.
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>feed safelane
>blame every other won lane

god I hate people who play this game
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>kpopshitters still forcing themselves despite not winning anything relevant at all
embarrassing tbqh
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>>163638528
>tinker TP's into top lane while we're all bottom, with no heads up
>gets called by an axe and killed
>"WOW WTF WHERE IS MY TEAM?"
>rage quits

getting pretty sick of this desu
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>>163638645
Listening and indulging in kpop is scientifically proven to improve your gameplay and your mmr.
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What ward and courier are you using gulag?

>tfw no Jumo courier

Cluckles best courier.
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>>163637857
>>163638295

I see. The silencer should never be played as a support and only as a mid core? If this is true why is so many people hellbent on him being a support and lane bully only? thank you for responding I await your feedback
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>>163638725
>tfw don't even know which courier I have equipped because I am not a support cuck
feels good lads
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>>163638725
Greevil best courier.
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>>163638725
>he plays support
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Silencer and Poodge make the best supports because the more they participate in team fights the stronger they get.
I can get 10k HP as a support pudge in 30 minutes
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>>163638725
w2c
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>>163638725
I'm using beaverknight and unusual cluckles + jakiro ward
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>>163638725
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>>163638725
You spelled Coco wrong
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>>163638736
>If this is true why is so many people hellbent on him being a support and lane bully only?
Because they don't want to play support so they bully others imto doing it. Ignore them.
You can also play him offlane nicely, abuse curse while farming your starting items.
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Dota 2 is officialy and literally objkectivelly subjectiuvally actually turning into league of legends with the new current patch of seven point zero zero i can not actually literally believe that icefrog wouild go through the hassle of actually changing his game to be molded after lol its almost like the suits invovolved at valve are taking over and turning this game into a business rather than a competetive game like they did with csgo i wouldmnt be shocked to see moreccases and keys being advertised in the new hud with all the empty spavceslike maybe eve sales to be advertised like chest on sale for 50% win this game for a chance to double your purchase or something along the lines thereof mwhat is going on with vbalve changing the ui like they did hiding necesary information like attributes and cs and hiding it behind alt only to move cs to the opposite of where the majority wanted it because valve is on a power trip and then hide sattributes behind a mouseover whito spit eplayer what is going on with this game
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Reddit is down, prepare for shitposting.
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>>163638645

Why are you so mad on Christmas anon?
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>>163638736
because he's an int hero. int heroes are supports like necrophos and OD.
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>unsintall dota 2 because 15fps
>want to reinstall dota 2
;_;
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>>163639558
get a better computer 3rd worlder
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Is it still worth immediately TPing to lane with your starting gold to plant mines early? You obviously can't kill with them, but you can easily get a lot of harass with them, which burns through a hell of lot of their regen
It also makes your lane much safer if you're offlaning
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>>163639558
get a job animeNEETS
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>>163639793
If you're not getting lv1 suicide then you're playing wrong
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>>163639249
League has devs directly discouraging roaming and laneswapping, and forces players to farm lanes for 20 minutes. dog bless IF for doing the opposite.
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>the top post on dota2 subreddit is unironically a suicide hotline
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>>163639757
I had 60 FPS with Source 1
45 FPs with Reborn
though ;_;
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>Dota was always the bastion of good dotalike gameplay, far from the cheap shit of league and arcadey style of heroes of the storm

>Valve sees that these games retain high levels of players even with their casualness, the only thing keeping dota "hardcore" is doing is appeasing a small set of oldschool fans

>Valve decides to turn dota into a fast paced arcadey hero brawler

>Gives fans the finger

You cant make this shit up, valve fell so hard from grace

I guess James was right, too many dickheads at valve up their own ass thinking they're the next steve jobs
>>
ITT: Baby Ducks
>>
ITT: Valve cocksuckers
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>>163640419
>hero brawler

back to HotS you with blizzcuck
even they don't call it a hero brawler anymore because people laughed at them
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>>163640485
This. Legit Stockholm syndrome retards.
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>>163640485

Quack Quack Quack Quack Quack
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>>163640516

Get ready for it valve cuck its what your game is becoming
>>
Im going to CSGO
>requires actual skill
>minimal RNG
>actual teamwork
>actual competitive play
>not braindead tedious lasthit fest with no action
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>>163640696
>>requires actual skill
yes the infamous skill.exe
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>>163640696

Post you are pure webms of cheating in CS:GO tournaments
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Why invest so much of your time and effort into a game that causes you so much frustration and demands so much of your attention and time, when you could just be having fun doing something a lot less time investment intensive that doesnt frustrate you?

You arent going pro.
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who's the 8k on the enemy team in RTZ's stream? saiba jouichiro something?
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>>163640817
My life has circulated around dota for 3 years now. even if I would quit I wouldn't know what to do with myself.

I've been doing dota for so long I don't know anything else.
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>posting alone on 4chan on Christmas eve

What's your excuse?
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>>163640970
But I'm posting with you!
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>>163640970
Everyone went to bed.
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>>163640817
Dota doesn't require as much time or effort compared to other games such as MMO's though. Nor does it require you to look up some particiular bits of information about the game once you're familiar enough with it compared to an RPG.

40 minute average games, I can lock myself into that's fine. It's not like I need to organize super huge raids or manage my inventories and gear or calculate so big DPS numbers or check my build.
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>Autists can't comprehend the genius that is Icefrog
Who would've guessed
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how do i get good?
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>>163640949

I started in 2012 in the summer and quit december 2015, if I can you can
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>>163641025

Mmos are the absolute biggest time sink in the industry though. Comparing it to dota and saying dota is fine is like saying "1 meal a day is fine for me, because people in africa have 0 meals a day"
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>>163641116
how did you replace dota? how did you find a new hobby that you like?

I tried working out and socializing, but it wasn't for me.
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>>163641116
>quit last year
>still in the gulag

nice try shitter

>>163641220
you can work out, socialize and play dota
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>>163641220
Shitpost.
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>>163641246
>you can work out, socialize and play dota
Yeah if you want to play 1-2 games a day. There is no point in doing anything if you're not going all out tbqhf
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>>163641025
>comparing WoW to dota
...
..
.

he's saying "why dont you play a game you enjoy, like: fucking anything that gives you a dopamine release. instead of frustrating yourself over a complicated game"
>>
>lina qt gf 2016
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>>163641246
>socialize
yeah that's why you're on the gulag on christmas eve right
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>>163640634
[Gagging sounds]
>>
>Better to run than curse the road

Is this the most badass line in the game?
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>>163640696

Too many cheaters once you start nearing GE.

Source: Am Overwatch fag.
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>>163641364
where did I mention WoW?
why are you implying Dota isn't enjoyable? It does cause frustration but it's not like people don't enjoy it or they wouldn't be playing it.
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>>163640817
i usually begin by being able to enjoy not just the moment of victory when destroying the enemy ancient, but literally anything else in addition to it
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>>163641398
I go to dinner in an hour to celebrate someone's birthday.
Watching RTZ strim at the moment

>>163641423
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/2/23/Invo_kill_12.mp3
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>>163641443
>It's not like I need to organize super huge raids or manage my inventories and gear or calculate so big DPS numbers or check my build.
please name ONE game where you "organize a raid"
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>>163639249
Now this is autism!
>>
Daily reminder you are in every game you lost.
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>>163640696

if you have no idea or let's say are average at best in counter strike go for it. I bet you even have some fun.
if you've played cs on a higher level tho you'll just get frustrated by the amount of bullshit csgo_dev has done to the game. had potential to be the next best thing to 1.6 and they completely disregard EVERY SINGLE CONSTRUCTIVE IMPROVEMENT SUGGESTION instead adding stuff shit tier reddit fucks think is cool.
>>
>>163641626
Mythic raiding in WoW, if you're the raid leader.

Even if you're an ordinary mythic raider you still need to dedicate at least 5 hours into the game every day. Most mythic raiders spend over 10 hours daily tho.

source: ex-raider
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Alright, anyone wanna install some source 1 dota and play some games via Hamachi?
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>>163641420

[Quacking Intensifies]
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>>163635731
nice balance, Valve
>>
baby duck vs stockholm
who wins?
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>>163641220

I play other games with significantly lower time investment required, while still being fun

And I have a social life, Im not really in a position where I can sit at home for 5 hours practicing dota where nothing can interrupt my matches any more.

>>163641246

I post mostly in /owg/ now and sometimes /hsg/ and /svg/

I just swung by to see how my fave clinically depressed gulagites are doing on xmas because Im back home with the senpai for the holidays and they've all gone to sleep

I mean if anybody here was posting between 2012 and 2015 Ive likely been talked to you before. Spoke to you guys more than my real friends or family

We gulagites are like a family. Merry xmas
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>>163641948
retarded shitposters on the lag
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m'lag
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DOTAAAARDS
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>>163642095
>all random

deserve it desu
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>>163641948

stockholm seems too generic, its used on almost every board in any argument

Its the early precursor to "c|_|ck" on /pol/

baby duck is like laser focused and specific, although I think it applies most of all to #NotMyUI posters
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>>163641443

The point is lots of games are enjoyable without causing as much frustation as dota does.

Compare dota to hearthstone for example. Hearthstone, a loss is a loss, it can be frustrating, you lose rank, but you lost maybe 5-15 minutes of your time. In 20 minutes you could have made your progress back and be further ahead

Dota you can spend an hour losing. An hour of your day not enjoying yourself, and then you have to invest another 2 hours making that rank back and progressing, and theres no gurantee you wont win again.

The only things in life that demand that much time and focus and energy are sports and business. One makes you fit and social and the other makes you money
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>>163641246
The last time I really played Dota 2 was 2014.
I recently installed Dota 2 and saw how awful it was and uninstalled after playing MK a bit, I could bare with it but the UI is a big turn off.
Also the community here is great, I can say things I don't like about the game without being downvoted into a oblivion because I'm not a blind fanboy. Like I made an account to express my disdain for the new shop and everyone said it's fine and I'm a big bitch so I stopped caring for reddit.
I stay in /d2g/ for all my dota 2 updates and memes, still waiting for "our guy" Barnyyy to reincarnate and come back to dota 2.
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>>163642216
Well sadly there's no official syndrome for people that like change for change's sake or like change because it's Valve doing so, so it's easier to just say Stockholm or cocksucker.
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>>163642243

Does anyone remember the shit with Barney in stream where someone called him the "Railroad slark" and he lost his shit and went full autism?

Railroad slark
What did he mean by this
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>>163638725
Moogle and Chocobo
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>>163642358
I miss Barnyyy. What happened to him? Did he quit?
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>>163642358
Pelmeleon called him that, and he went nuts. Like all he talked about was railroad slark for days and was fucking entertaining.
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>>163642216
what does baby duck mean?
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>>163642220
>lots of games are enjoyable without causing as much frustation as dota does.

You can't quantify that bullshit. There's probably more games that are just as enjoyable but more frustrating than Dota, it's subjective the person playing the game. Even RTZ doesn't get all that frustrated or he wouldn't be playing the game.

Losing by itself is not the definition of frustration and not enjoying the game, you can enjoy the game while losing and even not enjoy the game while winning. I don't enjoy the game if I'm winning because it's a literal 1v5 because that's not the point of Dota. If your only aspect of enjoyment for Dota is seeing +25 then you have a shallow way of enjoying the game. You lose in Dota fair and square - there should be no reason to be frustrated at all.

Dota doesn't "demand" that much time or focus, you get locked into the game and it's your choice to start another one, don't play the 2nd game today? Play it tomorrow, not hard. You can blame the game all you want but you're not right. Also keep in mind any game can easily take up hours of your time, Dota is definitely not an exception and never will be.
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>>163642220
but i like dota, not some casual trash like overwatch
now fuck off blizzard marketer
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>>163642358
they just keep diving and feeding
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>>163642459

From wikipedia:

>"In human–computer interaction, baby duck syndrome denotes the tendency for computer users to "imprint" on the first system they learn, then judge other systems by their similarity to that first system. The result is that "users generally prefer systems similar to those they learned on and dislike unfamiliar systems"
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>>163642358
>>163642438
Pretty sure railroad slark meant maxing dark pact first and prioritizing farming over fighting until level 10 when you max essence shift
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>>163642220
>The only things in life that demand that much time and focus and energy are spots and business

...what about other video games? It's not like Dota is the only soul-sucking thing out there pal.
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>>163636665
>plant mines all over the radiant jungle (I only play him radiant not dire)
>Place them at secret shop
>be a retard and almost die
>watch them pop on your bombs
>Your mid is ganking a lot?
>they die a bunch in your jungle
Seriously i had so much fun with this nwe techies, i put two bombs on the sides of stairs and whenever mid tries to gank they just back the fuck up.
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>>163642484
And? People liked WoW and look at where that game turned up. It's why Nostaloigoagrus or whatever the fuck is called has a high demand. Dota will change and you won't like it anymore, but thankfully with customs you'll get to play a dota you like, like 6.79 or something.
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>>163642524
>change is objectively bad
>muh baby duck
hmm
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>>163638042
To be fair i'm sure they all slowly drifted away, my games in 2013 went from people calling gondor, magina, bara, to SB, Under not pitlord etc etc. I just found it odd because i got used to the names already. I can't even make the lame Carl invoker joke now.
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>>163642660
>change is objectively bad

Are you saying it is or isn't?
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>>163642659
To be fair vanilla WoW was also extreme babbymode; no fun allowed edition. Nostalgiafags will never admit this
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What if team pick was still in effect, would scourge or sentinel have the higher win rate?
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What's the equivalent of cheesing in dota? Is there?
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>>163642571
no one every said (or intended to imply) "only dota" . feel free to include other games to the list
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>>163640696
That's not rainbow six siege.
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>>163642742

Because MMORPGs literally exist because of a primitive part of the brain that loves the vapid reward of grinding as sense of progress.

It works with animals just as well. You cannot make an MMORPG and not have grind.
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>>163642761
Huskar/Brood pickers
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>>163642742
>people legitimately believe this
I remember when 1-60 took a month instead of 3 hours now
I remember when bosses didn't have aoe notifications for attacks
I remember when buffs lasted 5 minutes for paladins
I remember when buffs cost reagents
I remember when managing threat was important
I remember when AoE tanking took skill
I remember when CC took coordination
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TI Wins from Dire: 5
Ti Wins from Radiant: 1

???
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>better to run than curse the road
what did he mean by this?
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>>163642889
>I remember when 1-60 took a month instead of 3 hours now
Has nothing to do with difficulty
>I remember when bosses didn't have aoe notifications for attacks
Mash 1, maybe press 2 or walk out of fire every 3 minutes. Wow such amazing combat
>I remember when buffs lasted 5 minutes for paladins
Not relevant to anything
>I remember when buffs cost reagents
Wasting inventory space is not difficulty
>I remember when managing threat was important
Doesn't make up for the braindead combat
>I remember when AoE tanking took skill
Same threat as threat management
>I remember when CC took coordination
Again, doesn't make up for the combat.

TBC wasn't as braindead as vanilla while also not babbymode like WotLK, I'll give it that much
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https://youtu.be/U77v89-wYgg


CLUTCH LINKEN BOYS :D
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>shit 2013 laptop runs dota better than my medicore 2003 desktop

??
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>>163643009

Basically not to become some attached to being a baby duck that you can't move past the NEET streamcuckold life

Clinkz is the most anti our-guy hero in the entire game.
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>>163643045
>Same threat as threat management
Same as threat management* if in a group. Really not that difficult solo
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>honeypot babyduck cucks :-DDD
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>>163643045

this pretty much
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>>163643045
Tanking Pre-Wrath
-DPS had to watch threat meter, and utilize threat reduction abilities
-Tanks had to utilize tabbing targets and using various mobile skills to grab any pats or stagglers while still maintaining aggro
-Warriors had to stance dance to utilize different tools
-Tanks had to plan out each encounter mark each mob, call out CC and lead the group

Tanks post-wrath
-LOL VENGEANCE I GET DAMAGE FROM BEING HIT
-Now just glorified DPS with +25%/50% threat bonus, a shit ton of AoE abilities
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>2.5k people watching Waga right now
>When Arteezy is streaming
What kind of world are we living in actually
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>>163643328
Soul ring builds into Bloodstone ?
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>baby duck triggers #NotMyUI streamNEETs

>also literally incapable of not also triggering the kings of baby ducks, WoWtards and their arguments about what was the best time for WoW

toppest of all the keks
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>>163643348
Let me put this another way.
Vanilla: braindead combat, actually possible to die during PvE
TBC: combat isn't too faceroll, difficulty is fine
WotLK: combat got more interesting (in other words people actually used more than two spells regularly) but difficulty overall has gone way down
Subsequent xpacks follow the WotLK trend
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>>163643328
Why was the map so dark there?
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>>163643073
>2013
>2003
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What's your most satisfying win dotards?
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>>163643464
>tfw this baby duck meme is promissor
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>>163643490
You argued that Vanilla was easier than current WoW when it's not as it's impossible to die in current WoW unless you have a brain deficiency. It's like people dying in FF13 despite GIANT RED CIRCLES TELLING YOU SOMETHING IS GOING TO KILL YOU.
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>>163640817
>You arent going pro.

the people who go pro aren't the ones who played the game intending to go pro.

People play the game for fun with their friends, and it snowballs from there for the really skilled people.

Valve introducing million dollar prizepools fucked up the community because it actively encourages 16-to-25-year olds to backstab each other for money. Big money put unnecessary drama in the scene.
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>>163643530
i ratted as a chaos knight and was called tryhard by the other team
smoked to ancient, pressed armlet, manta and R and went to fucking town on that ancient while they tried to push racks
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>>163643348
>-DPS had to watch threat meter, and utilize threat reduction abilities
watch something that had to be community created and added otherwise you'd have no clue of that mechanic at all. everyone can watch a fucking bar rising and act accordingly.

>-Tanks had to utilize tabbing targets and using various mobile skills to grab any pats or stagglers while still maintaining aggro
mobile skills. none you mean. no one had a mobility skill in fucking vanilla.
>-Warriors had to stance dance to utilize different tools
not as fucking tanks are you joking
>-Tanks had to plan out each encounter mark each mob, call out CC and lead the group
that's basically raid leading stuff and has nothing to do with the class you're playing

just get lost. wow is and always will be a simple well made time killer that's repetitive as fuck.
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>>163643770
>mobile skills. none you mean. no one had a mobility skill in fucking vanilla.
What is intercept
>inb4 "WOW 1 TALENT xD"
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>>163642761
memebuilds and memestrats
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>>163643328
which stream-nerd was that?
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>>163643770
>-Warriors had to stance dance to utilize different tools
Confirmed for never playing Warrior in WoW
s m h f a m
why do people who don't know shit post?
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>>163643630
>You argued that Vanilla was easier than current WoW
I never said that
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>>163643854
what's a cheese "draft" that could take racks at 10 minutes or earlier?
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>>163643348
Thanks for reminding me stance dancing is dead.
Fucking loved warrior tanking, it was sonic level speeds at the end of wrath - mid cata.
Fucking charge a mob, heroic throw another, taunt another, intercept another, heroic leap another, intercept back to the healer, wait behind a corner, wait for them all to come, thunderclap, rotate them around so their backs against the raid, shockwave, and then devastate/cleave god fucking damn. I miss WoW when it was fun

Vanilla - Cata was the fun, post launch Cata was fucking great. Dungeons had the same difficulty as pre-nerf heroics, if you ever played TBC when you first did H Shattered Halls or even Ramparts you got shit pushed in. Thats what regular dungeons in Cata felt like. I remember ghostcrawler saying "Yeah git gud" and then a week later he nerfed them.
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is it almost RTZ stream time
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>>163644154
what anime is this
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>>163643328
>>163643503
It's crazy how much Valve has secretly upped the brightness of the game with every update. No one fucking says anything about it either.
>>
Why is ending the game as Arc Warden so fucking hard.

He can get high ground vision.
He can right click towers well.
He provides attack speed and evasion for the push.

It doesn't make sense.
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What if old UI is locked behind Juggernaut Arcana purchase?
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How am I doing?
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>>163644154
dude shut the fuck up, no one cares about this washed up faggot. he and the rest of those jihadis are never going to make it
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>>163642334
Contrarian
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>>163644283

Inherits most of the problems of Tinker. But at least you can buy right click to actually kill the fucking buildings in a siege.
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>>163644426
bad wording there but ok
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>BDSfags think the new glorious minimized UI is bad
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>>163643834

intercept. yeah right dat insane mobility skill. I bet that's where that "insane stance dance" shit came from too huh. man go zerk stance and intercept dat mob that aggro'd your healz.
holy fucking christ there's like 3 classes designated to tank based on what the game tells you alone. one class. has one kind of work around and it's not even tank related.
stop pretending wow is hard in any case
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>anime loving shitskin on your team
>is absolutely fucking awful at the game
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>the old UI which obstructed my view is better than the new one that doesn't


Stockholm syndrome.
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>>163644585
I don't think anyone is arguing that WoW is hard, just arguing that it's gotten EASIER with each expansion. Which is true.
Also nice moving the goal post.
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whats yp honey pot baby digs
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>he thinks icefrog will balance the game
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Reminder that Warcraft 3 is harder than both WoW and DotA
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nice casters dotards
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>>163644908
>I'm going to be an asshole to my family on christmas
Why?
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>>163644890
Reminder that wc3 exists for shitter bass who couldn't play StarCraft
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>>163644908
someone send him this and remind him that he's a fucking racist

http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger05.html
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>>163643943
i don't think popping zerker rage once every 5 minutes because the boss fears counts.
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>>163644908
the fuck is wrong with you zyori

What next
he voted Hillary?
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>>163644908
>this faggot still hasn't killed himself
why is that?
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>d2g slowly learning new words as their game gets worse and worse

When will d2g learn about the Flynn Effect?
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Winter got married :3
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Anyone have the VoD of purge and co playing Dota on election night and losing their shit when Trump was nominated president elect?
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>>163645036
So his edge-lord fans will think he's funny
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>>163645158
every dota caster in the us voted hillary
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BARNYYY

COME BACK PLEASE
MY ONE CHRISTMAS WISH IS TO WATCH YOU PLAY AGAIN
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>>163645183
Absolute shit photograph
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>>163645176
flynn effect doesn't exist anymore
dysgenics is the norm in every country
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>>163645303
what about /ourguy/ ?
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>>163645183
I THOUGHT HE WAS GAY?

D2G??????????????????
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what compels an individual to play 20 games of juggernaut in a row, only to play 20 games of clinkz in a row the very next day
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Is AP Yi the new cancer of Dota?
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>>163645303
even slacks?
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>>163645393
probably didn't vote
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>rtz picks safelane crinks
>dies first in every fight
>reports his teammates

hm
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MERRY CHRISTMAS DUCKS NEVER

UNBABY?
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>>163645431
gotta farm faster than schlomo can kill me
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>>163645409
But he married a girl (male).
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>>163645579
Uh, dotards?
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>>163645579
kinda hot 2bh
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>>163645579

Need source on full video.
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>>163645579
>tfw no ladyboy friends to hang out and play with each other's dicks between DotA games
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>>163645579
>That limp fucking tranny cock that's impossible to get up and quite possibly devoid of any feeling whatsoever
Literally just there for show by that point. He should probably just get SRS. God knows he isn't doing anything with his dick.
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>>163645808
>He should probably just get SRS

disgusting
>>
shalom aleichem :^)
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>>163645808
>cutting off the best part of a girl: her dick

We got a faggot over here!
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Who started this Baby Duck Syndrome?
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>>163646039

Dotards are retareded.

I know some people who refused to moved on from WC3 dota to Dota 2 because it feels different.
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>>163644112
leshrac
undying
venge
necro
razor
all mid
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>>163646156
why razor?
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>>163646149
So? They prefer x to y. Let them be
>>
Why do all of invokers items excluding the first 3 sets released suck.
>>
>tfw every qop in my pubs going first item blademail
stop this game losey shit
>>
Merry Christmas from us at /r/HeroesOfTheStorm!

May your lanes be filled with gold and salt for the naughty ones!
P.S. We hope you enjoy our gift of the Talent System! :3
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>>163646217
to help shut down any damage the enemy might be managing to build
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>>163646339
>Let them be

Those shit can't be said to the 6.88 people.
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>>163646530
Seems to work out fine, as long as you're sure you'll make good use of the Blademail.

I'm curious why people started doing that build on QoP though.
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>>163646623
It can't because there is no 6.88 that exists anymore, they don't have a game to go back to where as WC3 players had WC3 to go back to.

6.88 players don't have their game anymore, and not many know about the 6.88 custom game.
>>
If I play beast master,

do I have to jungle? I hate jungling but like beast master. Is he a waste in lane?

What is even the proper way to jungle beast master? I tried in a bot game and it seemed kind of slow? Also, is wild axes any good?
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Is there any way to turn down the brightness of this game?
The map feels way too bright now for whatever the fuck reason.

What about weather effects, is there any specific weather effect that turns the environment darker or something?
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>>163646156
Pugna can push

why did you exclude her?
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>>163646648

its a value as fuck item honestly on qop.

It gives armor, mana, damage and a good active ability. and int
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>>163646817
ash something
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>>163646648
Take no dmg with octarine and 25 lvl talent while blademail is active
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>>163646720
>6.88 custom game.

WC3 dota people stay not because of the balance patch update, it was because the HUD, store and visual update.
I also remember some oldshitter complain about some trees in Dota 2 doesnt place literally in similar location in just like in Dota-allstars.

>they don't have a game to go back to where as WC3 players had WC3 to go back to.

Frozenthrone.exe
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>>163646843
>pugna
>girl

is probably the worst meme of all of d2g
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>>163646648
At lvl 25 her spellsteal talent makes it so she heals when taking damage when combined with Octarine, or just doesnt take damage I think.
But again, thats at lvl 25.
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>>163646910
Ok, I'll try to speak slowly this time.
WC3 players who didn't like Dota 2 had WC3 to go back to if they didn't like it.

Dota 2 players who don't like NuDota don't have Dota 2 to go back to.

WC3 players have the OPTION of playing their preferred game.

Dota 2 players do not have that option, it's either NuDota or fuck off.

Do you understand now?
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>>163624242
Wr

Slasher's shit was the worst thing to ever happen.
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>>163646794
I still haven't had a chance to play 7.00 due to circumstances

is there now a jungle role in dota?
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>>163647097
Jungling is garbage
Just go gank and deathball
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>>163647058
>Dota 2 players do not have that option,

They can, its called Frozenthrone.exe
Complaining about 7.00 all the time won't bring back 6.88 again, the only possible way is back to vanilla dota.

I don't know why you replying when I'm only here to said that most dotards are retarded to a person who asking about baby duck syndrome.
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>>163646530
>>163646648
This is old shit bros. Blademail has been a thing on rightclick int heroes forever because it gives them 30 damage.
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>>163647308
Frozen throne is not dota 2, anon.
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>>163646530
I wouldn't rush as first item tho, just some stats bullshit like veil or just naked talismans then aghs and octarine, or else you will have mana issues because there is no stats anymore.
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>>163647465

Boo fucking hoo to those fuckers then.
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>>163647065
:)
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>>163647097
there wasnt before and there isnt now
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>>163647506
lol
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>>163647618
Fuck off Tim. Go back to your shitty custom games.
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Hating bad change = Baby duck syndrome
Liking good change = Stockholm Syndrome

Do I have it correct here?

Examples:
I dislike hovering over to see my attributes. (Baby Duck)
I like being able to purchase items during the pick screen. (Stockholm)
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when to buy tranquil boots as carry?
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>>163648049
only when you start the game off jungling
if you can get away without tranqs jungling, then you skip tranqs
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>>163648049
Never

There is no reason to buy them as a core now that shrines exist
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>>163647065
Why?
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>>163648303
Buy the new Monkey King terrain.
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>>163648303
singsing?
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>>163648018
Yes you finally get it! Now you can shit post with the rest of the /d2g/ and r/dota2/
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>tfw still depressed because there wasnt a traditional patch but instead this giant clusterfuck 7.0
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>>163648320
anime girls drawn with noses look fucking weird
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>>163638067
unironically thissing this

gulag has this
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>>163648590
Buy the new Monkey King Arcana.
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>>163648590

https://www.epicwar.com/maps/6796/
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I swear I can't play DotA anymore. The Peruvians have ruined the game for me. I just uninstalled.

Need to communicate to win, yet they never speak English. I purposely only select English and North America East server. It's bullshit that there isn't a region lock.

I wouldn't mind paying not to play with the little children from Peru.
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>tfw skyrocketing mmr because new patch completely rewards my bizarre playstyle
>3600 up to 4200 in 1 week
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>>163648883
>Need to communicate to win

Try playing in SEA server.
We only communicate with Morse code.
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>>163648883
Have you tried playing during prime time?
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>Ember spirit in my game just purchased Octarine core
>literally perma binded
>sits there and laughs as his flame guard/Radience rapes me

what in the ever living fuck is THIS shit????
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>>163648976
I am not fluent in Morse code unfortunately.

I'm doomed until they add a pay2play element to DotA.
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So has CK been buffed enough that I can main him?
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>>163648883
for awhile there was a queue pool that you needed a battle pass to access. It was literally 10 white people every game. shit was great
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>>163648976
>>163648883

>Playing in SEA
>The mid speak Viet.
>The offlane speak hindi
>The carry speak tagalog
>Supports either malay or indon


Peruvian and cyka are nothing compare to these clusterfuck.
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>>163649001
No, I'm always busy during the day, so I play at night. Which is when the Peruvians are in full force. I have played during the day and it's better. But, I don't usually have that option.

It pisses me off though, cause it seems like a very simple fix on Valves behalf.
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>>163649095
His passive is fucking worthless now.
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>>163648883
I have noticed a massive increase in the amount of matches where I have teammates who will not speak english, or where Im fighting people who dont speak english either
However, when I do get english speaking teammates, the quality goes up a lot. Its been a nice respite
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>>163649068
>pay2play element to DotA.

What is Battle cup ticket?
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>no singsing strim
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>>163649172
That sounds like a disaster. 0% down to ever try that. The game is so communication intensive, yet there is no communication due to language barriers. The only way to play is to 5 man, or at least 4 man and have a dead weight.
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>>163649208
What if they changed his passive to an even more random crit
50% chance for 1.2x damage
35% chance for 1.4x damage
15% chance for 1.9x damage
5% chance for 2.3x damage
1% chance for 4x damage
Or something along those lines
Lets REALLY start rolling those dice
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>>163644280
clq did
and i believe they changed the contrast in accord with the brightness
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>>163649335
the passive shouldn't be a crit at all
It should be like some fancy orb
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they will be removing all passive skills and reworking them to actives. passives just arent "fun" to use.

100% sure this will happen
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>>163649096
>>163649278
I am pretty sure that they do not have this option right now. Do they have the battle cup ticket on?
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Merry christmas /d2g/
Fucking hate most of you but i hope you have a good christmas, truly
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>>163649335
In dota imba, the crit chance goes down with rank. Level 4 chaos strike is a 7% chance to deal 500% damage and reduce armor by 30.
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>>163649417
it was only available for a short time
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Hopefully seattle is destroyed in a massive earthquake so everyone at valve dies
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>Pink Randoms TA and BEGS for mid over tinker
>Tinker gives it to him because it looked like they were gonna throw a hissy fit and feed
>They feed Brood FB, SB, and more kills

Just about done
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>>163649395
>Every 6 hits, deal between X and X damage (illusions count towards building up procs for the damage)
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>>163649321
>That sounds like a disaster.

I was baiting, SEA server are known for language barrier cluster fuck ever since of RO era.
The only time most people used English in MMORPG are when they do trading because it just a simple solution of "monkey see monkey do".
But when it communication heavy game are needed people only use one simple method in Dota, its called pings and awareness.

Dota 2 is a freaking blessing because now we got whellchat too.

So sometime I don't get it when people complain about peruvian or russian, because most SEA people already fixed this problem more than a decade ago.
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>>163648883
dont worry, valve has a brilliant idea to fix the problem of people with actual money from the US dropping Dota because of south americans with internet cafe accounts flooding it

make the UI simpler :^)
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>>163649396
some passives are core to the identity of the hero. its why heartstopper aura was kept but sadist was removed.

icefrog also just released a hero with a passive, so i don't think he buys what you're selling.
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The game would probably gain more players if they just added MMR seasons to the game, to give people accurate non-inflated measures of skill to strive for
MMR as it is now is just a waste of time to see how many times you can bang your head against the wall to get some +25s
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>>163649395
New passive: Butterfly Effect
Every attack has a 20%/25%/30%/35% chance to split and hit two additional random units on the map. These attacks can split additional times with the same chance.
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>>163649652
but they arent "fun". get with the times
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>>163649652
Sadist wasnt removed, it was just worked into Death Pulse, which makes the skill literally twice as valuable. Its the same thing with Riki after they reworked him 3 times and made 2 of his ults into basic abilities, then gave him another ult, and then combined an ult with his backstab. Crazy value.
Sucks his regen was taken away though.
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>>163649547
what mmr is this
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>>163649593

I forgot to add, in SEA chat most exist to shittalk.
When people actually seriously playing they barely chat at all and communicate only with pings.

And you guys know what make its better? Warcraft 3 got no built-in VoiP
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>>163649740
>Roll that one in ten million chance roll
>Murder everything on the map instantly
>All camps, all enemies, 3 towers, and Rosh
>Lose because of memeback
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>>163649593
Yeah, I guess we aren't constraint by it as heavily so we haven't developed an immunity yet.

But the Peruvian problem is sickening. It's nonstop. I've been to Peru, I know it's little kids crammed into internet cafes with 1000 ping. The only reason they play is because it's free. Make a pay2play option and the problem is solved.
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>>163649793
just talking and pings is simply the best.
prove me wrong chatwheel mongoloid
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>>163648303
DEAD GAME
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>>163649776
oi
where the fuck you've been the past week nagaposting faggot
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>>163649774
I dont know I dont play Ranked
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>>163649882
>. Make a pay2play option and the problem is solved.

That sounds like most of exclusive Garena VIP server or any private Bnet server in the 2004.
Still doesn't stop the assholes in SEA with that $10 account price.
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>>163649859
Needs Mjolnir and a source of lifesteal.
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>It's fucking common to just get rax'd by 15 fucking minutes now in games
what the fuck actually how is this okay
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>>163650103
I kind of want to try SEA for the lulz.

Why are you playing there anyways?
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>SD + Luna are still tier 1 picks even after the illusion nerfs
yeah something needs to change badly
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>>163650239

Because I'm a SEAshitter you fools.
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>>163650227
it's better than memeball
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>>163650227
Why prolong a stomp with billions of comeback mechanics?
Its a stomp. Its not fun or interesting.
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>>163650313
Just pick better deathball heroes. Luna automatically loses her lane so just run at her and kill her from minute 0.
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its her birthday today. let's celebrate her today
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For christmas I come bearing memebuilds
Build your solo mid hotd lichs before the nerf is in

>1260 mana + free experience from dominated creep
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>>163650426
>Luna automatically loses her lane
ahem...
*trilanes u*
*farms at 1000gpm thanks to glaives*
*raxs u 10 minutes later*
nothin personal kidd...
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>>163650239
ping spikes, constant trashtalk, etc
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>Most highr MMR people now playing MK as roaming support

What happen?
I doesn't remember the toad finally nerf him in the latest patch..
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>>163650565
>trilane
That's real cute.
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>>163650841
He doesnt need items to 3 shot supports in mid game.
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>>163649859
its not even that hard to happen with a fucking 35% chance and a 2 target split.
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How long has it been since the frog killed offensive trilaning?
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>>163650946
A few weeks, maybe a month.
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>>163650886

So?
Most people complain that MK can 3 shot anyone in the game, why bother with supports?

Or these MK spammer scare that the frog will nerf him before he finally got into CM?
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why so buttdevastated doturds?
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>>163651175
The patch fucked up the game.
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>>163627643

>implying i'm a gameshitter
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OH MY GOD

JUGG AGAIN

STOP IT RTZ
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>>163651175
Ahri is a shit generic waifu
They could replace her with any other generic kitsune slut and nobody would notice
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>>163651030
MK was only instawin before because his lifesteal was bugged and restored an obscene amount of health. That he ended up being perfectly geared toward how shitters play was just a coincidence I'm sure.
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>>163651175

We are so anal because our general still refuse to died and turn into /c/ general.
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>>163651175
the game took an enormous step down in quality for a whole whopping one (1)% of new players who will quit in a week because the game is borderline unplayable now
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>>163651030
Why have a 4th position support when you can have 4th position """""""""support""""""""""?
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>>163651175

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR GENERAL!?
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>we have come so far that people genuinely answer bait posts
shaking my head famalam
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>>163651584

Fuck off, dota is dead.

I'm going back to lol.
>>
How do we fix dota?
>>
>>163651683
MMR seasons
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>>163651760

We already got that last Ti.
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>>163651683
Make it the first completely community developed game.
Valve have lost their touch anyway.
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>>163651683
just roll back the patch, issue an apology, fire whoevever came up with the idea to change the ui and blacklist them from ever working in the game industry.

In 7.00s place implement a patch with all the gameplay changes except talents, xp changes, and like half the invoker nerfs
>>
I'm start wondering if you guys just shitposting for the sake of it because no esport and e-celeb drama or just plain retarded.
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>>163651940
>completely community developed

Enjoy your game redesigned by 2ks on leddit
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i want dotard dick!
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>>163652106
Or enjoy game redesigned by 2ks on valve.
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>https://mods.curse.com/tag/dota-2
>can I get my dota 2 news from curse.com
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>tfw no sheever gf for christmas
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>>163652023
I dunno, I think talents have potential. More gameplay depth is always great and shitters love to pour skill points into stats instead of abilities they are too shit to use, i.e. Enchant.
>>
WHY NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS NEW EMBER META!?
>>
hey faggots happy holidays, there is always a solution, dont be an idiot.
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>>163652210
iktf friend
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>>163652319
bleach is a good option imho
>>
can somebody remind me how the "I wish drow was my mother" copypasta went?
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>>163651886
Alternative MM for battlecucks only =/ forced seasonal MMR.

You fucking retard.
The only reason it didn't work out was because of the fact it was OPTIONAL.
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>>163652385
for white clothes, yeah it works like a charm
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>>163652294
ridiculously overbuffed talents

+15% spell damage at level 10 is broken, thats the one that has the most impact, most heroes get something like +6 strength if they're lucky. +15% spell damage is like +240 intelligence.

The buffs to his ultimate and spell damage means ember wins before hes level 25 for his memechains because with just veil of discord, travels & bottle at level 18, he can already deal 1330 damage with 3 remnants. Let me repeat, triple remnant nuke on veiled targets is a 1330 aoe nuke, like an instant long ranged epicenter all compressed into one blast
and then he's shitting out ridiculously high damage chains and flame guard
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>>163652448
>it was OPTIONAL.

People keep spamming about P2P dota and seasonal MMR.
That shit was literally compendium MMR.

Make it yearly and Valve will be a very happy jew.
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>>163652508

Funny, I just watch a core 6 slotted Caster Ember game got dumpsterred by a silencer pick.
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>playing against Atos Pudge

Why is this allowed
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>>163631762
laugh like a mad man at this lol
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>>163651175
>generic kitsune whore
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>>163652090

This baka..
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>>163651175
Half the people shitposting in this thread don't even play dota

Yourself included
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>>163652787

Ok. Your point?
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>>163651683
Literally region lock is _all_ you need but SJWs at valve will never allow it
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>>163652913

>This kill MVP.
>>
>legitimate complains and arguments are getting trivilized by shitposts.

This is why we don't accept redditors.
If youre from reddit. see yourself off.
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>>163652654
did he just completely fail to build any means to dispel silence like bkb, manta, euls, etc?

also "caster ember" is just a meme, the ONLY items you can buy that really get fully used to big effect while spamming chains from a distance are veil of discord and octarine core. After you go travels->veil->octarine, spending an item slot and shit tons of gold to get a 200 damage nuke and slow during SoF is retarded and won't have any effect in the game, same with radiance or dagon or whatever, its all retarded. Theres no reason to waste gold on more caster items instead of transitioning to stuff like battlefury, daedaloi, rapier, mkb, and maybe items like linkens/bkb first

caster ember is just about recognizing that embers first 40 minutes of the game don't need to be rushing battlefuries, because getting them early doesn't do anything, it doesn't help your farm, it doesn't have any impact in fights
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Get off d2g and go spend time with your family.
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>>163651175
>/lolg/ so dead that they had to send the ahriposter to /d2g/
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>>163653052
what family?
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>>163652913
It's a shame because this is literally it.

Sure white peopel rage and feed but 9/10 it's a fucking Peruvian raging because he doesn't get his lane.

Not even Russians anymore for me it's goddamn South americans 100% of the time, game ruining cockroaches feeding couriers before horn spawns because they can't mid Bloodseeker
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>>163653026
>bkb, manta, euls, etc?
The silencer already got refresher when Ember already six slotted.


>but bkb
>but manta

yeah, it was a clusster fuck of a fight for ember when the clash happen.
And when he already got his BKB on, half of his teammates either dead or half dead and the second global silence is up in less than 3 seconds.
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>>163653182
>>163653182
>>163653182

For all the lonely souls
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>>163653052
But I'm pagan who don't celebrate x-mas
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>>163652913
>>163653080

>The only reason peruvian shitter runs to USe because Valve used the auto region picking method where the lowest pings server got picked first.
>suddenly region lock
>Peruvian start choosing USe permanently for playing with low pings.

LoL region lock was never permanent just like Starcraft or HotS.
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>>163652508
Reminder that Soul Assumption can do about 500 damage every four seconds with the right talents
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>>163653080
Injecting race into it is why they won't deal with it to begin with. PR disaster waiting to happen.

Peruvians are so unbearable because the majority of them are kids in Internet cafes. Even other Peruvians with home computers don't like them.
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>>163633517
How can a goy be this good?
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>>163629450
Why single out Beesa? FDL was Stan King, 747, MJW and O4 as well. Good luck to them all
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>>163629429
Something went terribly wrong after their amazing win against NP
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>>163666915
They had great potential. They just needed guidance and leadership and maybe sponsorship too
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DO NOT CLICK ON THIS

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/58/Pain_pain_17.mp3
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Idk how to feel about this but a lot of my games are filled with a low energy PA player. How people go 6-14 is beyond me as PA.
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>>163649285
gatorade?
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