/emugen/ - Emulation General

I hope emulation is good today.

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I'm redirecting questions like this to /emugen/ in the future, folks. Have fun.

>>163439810
Jokes on you this place is almost always dead.

>>163439810
How many time did he repost that shit?

I'm here to help guys. Where can i get some /emugen memes?

>>163445085
Right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhJlIvdHZKs

Why are emudevs so depressed?

>>163445998
Thankless job that they aren't making money for. Endusers just complain about how they aren't pandering to what we want from the emulator.

>>163446119
>Thankless job that they aren't making money for

Clever emudevs have a Patreon

>>163446461
Mmm. But would you really want your job to be sitting around all day staring at code in a room on your own?
You'd likely be paid more for a real programming job and you'd have social interaction to stop you from getting depressed and isolated.

>>163446824

emudevs have mental issues preventing them from getting real jobs

>>163446965
What would happen if a "normal" person coded an emulator?

>>163447079
it would have a wimp gui

>>163447271
Made me laugh. Thanks anon.

If the complete Verilog sources for N64 RDP are available, why can't someone just make a plugin that's going to interface between the emulator and some FPGA?

>>163447624
>FPGA
Pretty sure that's because you would need to target some ridiculous FPGA that costs over 5k

Is there any reason to not use Retroarch for all your emulation needs on Windows? Are there any consoles that run better as standalone?

>>163448891
ssf
epsxe
zsnes
kega fusion
mednafen
all of these are better on their own. retroarch is good if you want to fuck around with shaders.

>>163449134
>ssf
Barely

>epsxe
>zsnes
Not even fucking remotely close


>mednafen
>kega fusion
In some edge cases that most people don't give a fuck about.

>>163448891
PPSSPP is better on its own.
PJ64 is still better than retroarch alternatives.
PCSX2 and Dolphin for PS2 and Gamecube/Wii.

>>163449134
I use Mednafen-saturn via retroarch as it's simpler than SSF and can be loaded easily through a frontend.
Mednafen-beetle-HW can do everything EPSXE can do nowadays and is more accurate. EPSXE only for romhacks.
>ZSNES
Maybe if you want netplay. Otherwise, quit memeing.
Kega Fusion for whatever it is that Genesis+GX on Retroarch doesn't support (I think it's 32x but it might be Sega CD).
Mednafen-beetle has some improvements over standalone. It's really accuracy vs graphics.

What is the:

>avformat-57.dll
>avutil-55.dll
>libopenal-1.dll
>avcodec-57.dll

That i need for the last nightly retroarch?

>>163449870
>I use sandpaper to give my asshole a good cleansing. It doesn't hurt very much and I can use the pain to overcome my other senses when I meditate on how fucking stupid everyone else is.
that's you.

>>163450149
I feel that I gave pros and cons of each and explained why I use what I use. Feel free to explain why you think I'm wrong though.

>>163450098
ffmpeg
openal

>>163450302
no. i'm just feeling onree. i use ra unless my pos laptop run it.

>>163449870
>EPSXE only for romhacks.
Better performance, since it's coded by professionals.

>ZSNES
>Maybe if you want netplay.
Lowest latency

>PPSSPP is better on its own.
>PJ64 is still better than retroarch alternatives.
Better is an understatement. They are far superior than retroarch.

>Mednafen-beetle has some improvements over standalone
iirc there are regressions / additional bugs in the ps1 emulator. I'd stick with standalone since the whole point of using mednafen is for accuracy..

>>163450098

>latest nightly did not include updated libs, until it is fixed, just use this zip to update necessary lib files. ONLY FOR 64BIT RETROARCH.
-download and extract to your retroarch folder, replace or overwrite existing files.

https://mega.nz/#!3RIyHBgb!tVt6ZKNW-Sb0UhQw_gxqRKfUAEj7BrU-Lz9lfhpMKEs

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Did I miss something? I thought DeSmuME's development was halted after the head dev got pressured by authorities.

>>163450098
radius had ONE JOB. To keep the fackin' buildbot working properly.

Why are we still feeding these bums?

>>163450897

Not even that worked, tried even the 32 bit version.

All nightly are fucked right now.

>>163451320
have you actually pledged?

>>163451334
>almost 2017 and not compiling your own shit

>>163450715
>Better performance
Not in any relevant way unless you're rocking a Pentium 3 from 2001,and it comes at the cost of less options and plugin hell.

>Lowest latency
Based on those old as fuck tests that predate the latency reductions commits, for a difference you wouldn't notice without an high speed camera.

>>163449767
>In some edge cases that most people don't give a fuck about.

Like Final Fantasy VIII?

>>163454328
>Like Final Fantasy VIII?
>game that has a perfectly stable and up to date PC port
>on a non intrusive bug that happens on one screen
Edge case

>>163454514
>downplaying issues
Nice management there, Daniel.

>>163454603
>a minor issue stops being minor when it's in a program I don't like
Nice exaggeration there anon

>>163454603

That's Daniel De Matteis to you sir

>>163450627
Did anon have a stroke mid post?

>>163452792
>Not in any relevant way unless you're rocking a Pentium 3 from 2001,and it comes at the cost of less options and plugin hell.
I highly doubt a pentium 4 can run that unprofessional code at full speed. CPU Interpreters are for amateurs.

>Based on those old as fuck tests that predate the latency reductions commits, for a difference you wouldn't notice without an high speed camera.
If I remember correctly, ZSNES was leading by more than 16ms (which I believe is the advertised difference with the patch that Byuu doesn't believe has any real effect).

>>163456182
>CAN'T run it.

>>163456456
That doesn't account for the rest of the post but it makes a little more sense now, maybe.

>>163456548
>>163456182
>onree
I'm fairly certain that anon meant ornery

>>163456284
>CPU Interpreters are for amateurs
>Claim ePSXe devs are professional when they can't even code an interpreter that's better than one from a supposed amateur


>I highly doubt a pentium 4 can run that unprofessional code at full speed
Pentium 4 hasn't been relevant since Core / Core 2 which in itself is more than 10 year old and Pentium was a monumental piece of shit compared to Pentium 3

>If I remember correctly, ZSNES was leading by more than 16ms
Not by much (92ms vs a bit under 75ms total system input lag), the test is also pretty dubious in places (using shaders reduces the input lag when there no logical way it ever should for example)
Anyway you're still saying that it's a good idea to drop any semblance of accuracy for 1-2 frames of input lag.

Is there a /emugen/ discord? I'm kinda lonely and would like somewhere to lurk.

Retroarch wouldn't let me set my generic x360-pad shaped dInput controller to a retropad with analogue. Any way to force it?

>>163446119
Clever emudevs just write for Android, where there are big bucks to be had.

>>163457809
>any semblence of accuracy for 1-2 frames
yes. it is a good idea.
ZSnes runs 99% of the US library flawlessly, so who gives a fuck about accuracy when input lag is fucking up gameplay for a title that runs just fine?
go fuck yourself you silly autist.

>>163462601
Even if Android technically is a shitty ecosystem to develop for?

Damn, they must really be hungry for dollars.

>>163463160
Drastic is 6 bucks
>Installs
>1,000,000 - 5,000,000

It's a lot of money, man.

>>163463023
>ZSnes runs 99% of the US library flawlessly, so who gives a fuck about accuracy when input lag is fucking up gameplay for a title that runs just fine?
>go fuck yourself you silly autist.
>Autisming over almost unnoticeable input delay is fine but doing the same over clear visible brokenness isn't
>going as far as claiming ZSNES runs 99% of the §US library flawlessly when it can't even run SMW without sounding like utter shit
ZSNESIDF please

>>163463160
Its too much of a pain to install emulators on ios devices. No way people are going to make money selling emus through Cydia.

>>163463389
>clear visual brokenness
graphics glitches here and there is fine if it's just a couple of games.
>SMW sounds like shit
sounds perfect to me. Audio problems are like 1st gen zsnes.
>ZSNESIDF
/pol/ pls.

>>163463897
>graphics glitches here and there is fine if it's just a couple of games.
>having literally no standards

>sounds perfect to me.
>having broken ears

>/pol/ pls
>calling /pol/ randomly when it has no relevance to anything

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>>163441978
twice.

Along with about a dozen screaming comments.

>>163464259
pokemon fans are cancer

>>163464259
>Along with about a dozen screaming comments.
That I would love to see

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>>163464421

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>>163441978
He does more than just reposting. Unfortunately it's not enough to warrant a ban. Yet.

>>163439810
kek

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/5jhbtz/nogba_and_zoomer_suddenly_running_at_02_fps/

>>163464421
True
http://archive.is/7HwAw

>>163461030
Psst.

>>163468487
>>163461030
Xoutput / x360ce?

>>163469257
The problem with that is, I only use this controller for 5 player. You can only have 4 xinput devices connected at once.

>>163470128
I dug out an old crappy controller to check, have you tried using the bind all command without changing the device type?

I left it to unknown and it doesn't seem to cause any issue for me (I don't have several controller to test though)

>>163470637
Maybe that'll do it then. I'll try that next time. Thanks for the advice.

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I keep getting this error when i try to play psp games, however it doesn't affect the games i play, what is it? I actually have ppge_atlas.zim under system/PPSSPP but keep getting this

I'm trying to get Vib Ribbon working, but both the PAL and JP version complain tell me to insert the Vib Ribbon disc when trying to start the normal mode

>>163472765
>I actually have ppge_atlas.zim under system/PPSSPP but keep getting this
The assets folder is suppose to be in the same folder as ppsspp.exe, not in the memstick.

>the best emulator for the system hasn't been updated in years

how did this happen?

>>163474996

bsnes is complete

>>163475063
Now for byuu to work on the clusterfuck that is GB/GBC

Has anyone tried FireShock/Vigem? I guess they're new Xinput wrappers for Playstation Dualshock controllers. Made by the guy that took over the SCPToolkit.

>>163457809
>Claim ePSXe devs are professional when they can't even code an interpreter that's better than one from a supposed amateur
Doesn't matter how bad their interpreter is, because their recompiler is great.

>Pentium 4 hasn't been relevant since Core / Core 2 which in itself is more than 10 year old and Pentium was a monumental piece of shit compared to Pentium 3
I just tried running Tekken 3 in mednafen standalone and it's using more than a whole CPU core... I'd have to underclock my rig, to make sure it doesn't overheat, if i were to actually consider using this unprofessional software. It relies on multi-threading to even get 60 fps, which is sad considering how old the console is.. Definitely sticking with ePSXe..

>>163477912
>Made by the guy that took over the SCPToolkit.
So they're shit then?

>>163451006
>the head dev got pressured by authorities.
What? That never happened. And they've moved development to Github.

>>163475063
No it's not. Go ask byuu what's unemulated and he'll list off a bunch of things. Most of them are insignificant or aren't used by any retail games, though.

>>163477960
>I just tried running Tekken 3 in mednafen standalone and it's using more than a whole CPU core... I'd have to underclock my rig, to make sure it doesn't overheat, if i were to actually consider using this unprofessional software. It relies on multi-threading to even get 60 fps,
And there you go spreading falsehoods, mednafen isn't multithreaded.

>which is sad considering how old the console is..
>implying that has anything to do with anything
Reminder that the most demanding emulator out there is for a fucking PONG machine

Also
>having a computer that can't handle 100% load
That's embarassing, stop using craptops.

>>163478130
Was an april's fool joke by the original dev.

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Where can I download roms for ps2 via torrents?
My pc is messed up and stop non torrent downloads.

>>163478357
Just to clarify, I'm talking about weird stuff like SA1 bus contention or w/e it was and not games. Every retail game is emulated with no known bugs.

>>163478457
>And there you go spreading falsehoods, mednafen isn't multithreaded.
Well for whatever reason, it's using more than 1 core's worth of cpu..

>implying that has anything to do with anything
mednafen isn't cycle accurate, so there's no excuse for requiring hardware that was made 20 years after the console came out.

>That's embarassing, stop using craptops.
Why pay money just to play on mednafen, when I can just play on ePSXe for free? I won't even waste my time trying mednafen saturn. I'll stick to SSF since that was professionally made..

>>163479395

What's professional about SSF?

>>163479395
>Well for whatever reason, it's using more than 1 core's worth of cpu..
If you're using RA with threaded video maybe that could happen, otherwise it really shouldn't.

>mednafen isn't cycle accurate
Well duh, a cycle accurate PS1 emulator wouldn't run fullspeed on anything currently available

>Why pay money just to play on mednafen
In what universe do you live in where you have to "pay money" for mednafen, the only thing I have that can't run it fullspeed is a damn compute stick right now.


>I'll stick to SSF since that was professionally made..
You keep using the word professional, I don't think you know what that actually means.

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Why are these textures in these weird boxes?

>>163480060
working as intended

>>163479664
>What's professional about SSF?
It is optimized to run at full speed. It also still has the best compatibility, from what I hear.

>>163479958
>In what universe do you live in where you have to "pay money" for mednafen
buying new hardware just to run it with better performance..

>You keep using the word professional, I don't think you know what that actually means.
Professional = well optimized + WIMP gui.

>>163480060
Problems with transparency, I'd guess.

>>163481450
>buying new hardware just to run it with better performance..
Literally what kind of build do you have that would have trouble with mednafen?

>Professional = well optimized + WIMP gui.

Professional:

adjective

1.
relating to or belonging to a profession.

2.
engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.

noun

1.
a person engaged or qualified in a profession.

>>163440883
> Runs emulator on Raspberry Pi 3
> Post on emugen
> No reply
> Mentions it on another general in an off-topic banter
> "That sounds really comfy anon, maybe I should try setting up mine as well"

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Total newfag to emulation here, but:
How do I get this PSP game to work?

In each of these archives is an iso. whenever I extract one of them, it works in PPSSPP, but only up to the title screen. Whenever I extract one from a different folder, it overwrites the other one. Thanks in advance for spoonfeeding.

>>163483041
Fuck off and go farm likes elsewhere.

>>163483225
kys

>>163483041
People around here have a hateboner for Pi based emubox

>>163483225
It's the same iso you're extracting regardless of what part you're extracting, if it doesn't work look it up on the PPSSPP forums.

Gratz on not being a total fucking retard and managing to extract your iso without understanding what a multipart archive is most people just don't even get that far.

>>163483347
T-Thanks
>>163483436
Hmm alright, I'll check it out. It feels like I'm missing something really simple here.

>>163483436
Congrats also for getting a proper scene release thats untainted from extracted redisted scum.

>>163483810
Scene rules are so fucking retarded. There's no reason to keep the files separated in a million different RAR files. Stop sucking scene dick.

>>163484083
If it wasn't for the scene, you wouldnt be having most of these releases in the first place, grow up.

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what are some secret gems for the ps2? I have gone and played all the ones that I played when I was young, now I want to experience all I have missed. tell me what I should play

>>163484197
I don't think the scene gives much of a fuck about his opinions about the scene.

>>163484278
Fair point, well made I suppose. They are too busy doing the releases to even give a shit.

>>163484263
Samurai Western
Warship Gunner
Shinobi
Nightshade
Chain Dive
Chaos Legion
Shadow Hearts
Wild Arms 3 (don't need to play the first two but I would recommend it anyways, 4 and 5 are way different, ACF is a remake of the first)
Hypersonic X (Wipeout ripoff with track builder)
Gungrave
Kya: Dark Lineage
Ape Escape 2/3
Fatal Frame 1-3

Not secret but Ace Combat deserves a mention everytime

>>163484925
>Samurai Western
>Warship Gunner
>Shinobi
beat it
>Nightshade
beat it
>Chain Dive
>Chaos Legion
>Shadow Hearts
beat all 3
>Wild Arms 3 (don't need to play the first two but I would recommend it anyways, 4 and 5 are way different, ACF is a remake of the first)
>Hypersonic X (Wipeout ripoff with track builder)
>Gungrave
>Kya: Dark Lineage
>Ape Escape 2/3
beat them
>Fatal Frame 1-3
beat the first
>Not secret but Ace Combat deserves a mention everytime

Ace Combat is a given, come on now. will try the rest, thanks senpai

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>>163478506

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>>163486303
I would but the link is considered to be spam and I'm too lazy to fuck around with it to prevent it from being blocked
Don't forget to save it the paste will be dead in less than an hour

So where does one get the updates dependencies for the latest nightly ?

>>163483227
>go farm likes elsewhere
Bug reports goes straight to each emu's bugtracker.
General questions are mostly answered on emugen wiki and RetroPie wiki.

What's left to post?

>>163483436
>People around here have a hateboner for Pi based emubox
Why?

>>163488649
They are posted in this thread, just look up for a mega link.

>>163488710
>Why?
Elitism and some faggots kept shilling that way back it just stuck, also the Pi back then was a real piece of shit, the Pi3 is still not that powerful but it's miles better.

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>>163486663
cant you post it on pastebin? PLEASE

>>163489026
>They are posted in this thread, just look up for a mega link.
It's down

i don't think i can ever forgive the mame dev team for switching to C++

this emulator is SO fucking broken now

>>163482318
>Literally what kind of build do you have that would have trouble with mednafen?
1st gen i5 laptop.

>>163488710
jealous of people making a few grand while they make only $668 per-month

>>163489041
C'mon anon typing isn't hard
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>>163489273
>laptop.
You're just getting throttled to shit, a 1gen i5 shouldn't have any issues on mednafen.

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>>163489616
>There is not enough free disk space to save the files in the folder you seleted.

Where does it comes from? I need this torrent to live forever, why do they expire in an hour?

>>163490567
>Where does it comes from?
Dunno, don't care, it's a public upload of the PS2 redump USA collection that's all you need to know.

> I need this torrent to live forever,
Just keep the magnet link somewhere It'll live forever

>why do they expire in an hour?
Because I set the paste to expire in an hour, wouldn't last very long anyway zerobin doesn't rat on you but it erases shit way fast if they're flagged

>>163489616
hory shiet..

>Download 50 games from the retro era
>Start 20 of them
>Finish 3 of them
Forgive me emugen

>>163490798
Oh, thanks senpai!

Does emugen have a list of recommended games?

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>>163491043
Interested as well.

>>163491043
just lurk /vr/

Okay I've downloaded and tested a whole load of PSP games, and all of them get stuck on the title screen. Whenever I try to play the game, it loops back to the title screen. I get the feeling it isn't an issue with the games, but with either the emulator or me.

>>163491043
there's /v/'s recommended games wiki

How do you transfer save files and controller profiles etc across different CEMU versions?

>>163495341
Working as intended.


>>163484083
The scene is losing its relevance in vidya. 3DS and WiiU have easy to use dumping methods that produce the same shit you get from the scene. And the games have signatures so you can verify that they're good dumps yourself. For PC, most scene groups just take a release from steam and slap a generic steamapi dll replacement with it and call it a day. They couldn't crack their way out of a paper bag. CPY is like the only group with any skill nowadays.

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>Buy PC version of Shantae pirate's curse
>can't help but realize it's non-interger scaled
>there are no visual options to mittigate this

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>>163506165

Look at these nasty jaggies.

>>163506165
>lesbian innuendos
Trash that shit

Is Pirate's Curse better than Risky's Revenge?

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>>163506258

The entire game feels like a hentai game.

>everyone has big tits
>Women never wear shirts and always show off their navels
>their idle animations all show off their jiggly tits

>>163504763
Our computer science education today trains people to be pajeet-level code monkey, and "technology" these days are so watered down, the stupidity hurts. We're not getting enough replacements of sufficiently skilled people, and existing ones are either hired, or busy attention whoring. Doesn't help that our "tech people" these days just want to create startup using the latest hipster tech funded by VC investors' money, with the goal of getting bought by tech giants.

>>163506376
it's not a hentai game, it's just a game made to make children think about sex :^)

are there any emulators for 3ds that let you play on the bottom screen? the only one i know of is gameyob. i have o3ds but i'm interested in any information that's available

>>163484263
Urban Reign.
We Love Katamari is legit one of the best games ever. You might want to play the original first to get an appreciation of how much improved for the second game though.
Onimusha is pretty fun and there's a few games on the system.
Sorry if you've played them all. I never had a PS2 so it's just some games I've been playing since I started emulating.

>>163490567
>>163490798
Can I have this magnet? I was not aware that a PS2 redump existed. Could it be posted to the wiki?

I dropped my Buffalo snes pad 3 feet and now windows is telling me the USB has malfunctioned.

Why does this shit not use micro usb? I have to buy a new pad now

>>163511472
Shouldn't have dropped it. My commiserations.

The snow effect on retroarch just stopped working, any idea why?

Is the RetroArch background ever gonna get dithering? It looks so ass with all the banding.

Darkwater, Trurip, TOSEC, Redump...

Can someone give me a brief rundown on what's the difference between them?

>>163506165
Just set the resolution to 2560x1440 and let your GPU scale it with bilinear to 1080

>>163517656
Isn't darkwater dead? Go ask such questions at romshepherd, they should know

>>163517656
I just know that TOSEC is what I use for Dreamcast and Redump for pretty much everything else.

>>163517656
Different dumps by different scene groups.

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Does anyone here have knowledge of shader emulation? Could you tell a bit about what shaders are, in a video game sense? The Wikipedia articles are fairly vague.

Some more questions:
Is shader preload possible while emulating like it is with some PC games?
What is asynchronous shader compilation (used in that special dolphin build)
Is shader compilation GPU or CPU dependent?

How do i upgrade my retroarch while keeping my setup/savefiles?

>>163526038
Just the .exe

>>163525414
These aren't scene groups

>>163526037
Shaders are what GPUs use to render effects on screen.

>Is shader preload possible while emulating like it is with some PC games?
Yes
>What is asynchronous shader compilation (used in that special dolphin build)
Instead of waiting for shader compilation to occur the program continues without rendering the effect that is being processed.

>Is shader compilation GPU or CPU dependent?
Entirely GPU dependent.

>>163480060
Play with AA/AF/Texture options

>>163527294
Sweet, hopefully the cemu dev implements some of this stuff.

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Im trying to execute pcsx2 but getting pic related.
Google told me to download Visual C++ Redistributable, but its not fixing the problem.
Please send help?

>>163527294
>Shaders are what GPUs use to render effects on screen.

Or pretty much anything these days.

>>163527734
Did you actually install the C++ libraries?

>>163526037
>Could you tell a bit about what shaders are, in a video game sense? The Wikipedia articles are fairly vague.

Thats because shaders are extremely powerful things. They are pretty much a building block for rendering for all modern GPUs. Every bit of rendering these days uses shaders in one form or another.

>>163527847
I am not sure.

>>163528197
My understanding is that they're written in a special shader language and then at compile time, they're compiled into GPU machine code, is that correct?

>>163528814
Correct, they are written in a special rendering API specific language and then compiled into GPU specific machine code.

So can we add Citra to the list of dead projects? Along with ePSXe and Desmume.

i'm going to stop being lazy and set up emulation on my Wii U finally,i remember reading something about not being able to use certain controllers on the vWii side, would a pro controller work for me? or would i have to get that dumb snes pad looking thing? i only have the included gamepad currently.

Reposting this here because I didn't get any response originally

I want someone to test this in PCSX2 for me.

Download Soul Reaver 2 for PS2 and run it in PCSX2 with the opengl plugin with full mipmapping. Go to through the dark forge using the linked memory card save and tell me if you encounter any audio getting cut off with crackling.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1sugCZh1a3ZWFpBNlo2TG5VRjQ

>>163529259
What happened to citra? Is development just slowing down?

>>163523358
why tosec for Dreamcast?

Redump is freeleech on a certain tracker right now for DC and I'd like to grab whatever is the best, most complete DC set.

>>163529439
It was the only complete set I could find. There's a link to the torrent on the wiki.

If anyone has that PS2 redump magnet then I'd still appreciate that.

I'm looking into buying a device for emulation. What's the cheapest device I can get that supports vulkan?

>>163529868
PC

>>163517656
Different Hashdb with different ideology; some just want to preserve proper scene release while other want to preserve all the info on the disc regardless of it being useful to run the game or not, most of the time they're reliable if your goal is just playing the game, keep in mind that loose upload don't encessarily mean they're actually matching the hash the group has so you have to verify yourself.

>>163527734
Unisntall VCredist 2015 (both) > reboot > reinstall them
Quality microsoft software engineering as per usual (the install for that crt thing is packaged and can fail silently leaving you with a broken install you don't know about until it's too late.)

>>163529439
TOSEC is more complete and redump doesn't do homebrew and homebrew is a big thing on DC, even has full fledged commercial releases.

>>163529868
A 400-600 bucks PC, maybe less if you're willing to dive in secondhand deals.

>>163530054
>>163530494
So I guess I shouldn't bother looking into mobile devices like Nvidia shield?

>>163530682
If you plan on emulating anything above a PS1 then you pretty much need a PC. Its where the cutting edge stuff happens. Even Retroarch on Android is dogshit.

>>163530682
>So I guess I shouldn't bother looking into mobile devices like Nvidia shield?
You're limiting yourself if you do that but if a low power device to play up to 5th gen (and a handful of 6th gen) is what you're looking for then it can be decent, won't come close to even an half decent computer though.
If you're really hurting for money look up refurbished i5/i7 based brand name desktop towers, you can get away with spending less than 300 on something more than adequate to tackle 6th gen.

>>163530836
I honestly don't mind limiting myself to 5th gen console emulation right now. I am interested in using newer technology. Might be fun to code something I haven't done before, like ARM assembly or Vulkan.

I basically saw this article http://www.mudlord.info/blog/2016/12/22/so-this-came-in-the-mail/ and was impressed with the price of this device. I don't really have a preference for the operating system, although IOS is out of the question.

I guess if there's nothing good, then I'll just buy a new PC hardware.

>>163531917
>You're limiting yourself if you do that but if a low power device to play up to 5th gen (and a handful of 6th gen) is what you're looking for then it can be decent, won't come close to even an half decent computer though.
I read that the Nvidia shield came out in 2014 and is 32-bit only, so I don't think I will bother with that particular device.

If low end PC's are still the best bang for the buck, then I guess I can forget about android / obscure devices.

>>163532387
>I read that the Nvidia shield came out in 2014 and is 32-bit only, so I don't think I will bother with that particular device.
I was more referring to the SHIELD TV which is more recent and more powerful (GPU wise at-least), SHIELD tablet has exploding batteries technology so I wouldn't use that personally.
But yeah disregarding power consumption PCs are the best bang for your buck.

>I basically saw this article http://www.mudlord.info/blog/2016/12/22/so-this-came-in-the-mail/ and was impressed with the price of this device.
Just get yourself a RPi / OPi / ODROID it's like 50 bucks, hell get a RPi 0 for less than 10 if you're a dev / coding for fun / DIY person you'll find something fun to do with those.

Is there a list of pixel-perfect aspect ratios for each console?

>>163533576
Some times different games used different rendering resolutions.
Generally its 8:7

>>163533576
4:3

>>163533686
Isn't that just for the SNES/NES?

>>163533970
depends on which region of the world you are talking about

>>163534216
Is that relevant when it comes to emulation, though?

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So Dolphin just crashed saying "unhandled exception". Any idea what the hell that means?

>>163534317
yes actually
Different had different copies of the game modified to their own regions specifications most of the time to the point of European ports of japanese/american straight up running slower and American versions of european games running faster.

>>163534334
Which game?
Have you enabled the dual core option?

>>163534550
Star Wars Lego 2. I don't know, where is that option?

>>163534741
Found it. Yeah its on.

>>163534973
turn it off, it causes bugs and crashes

>>163535848
I've been using Dolphin for six moths. Presumably dual core had been on the entire time, and this is the first and only time it's ever crashed. Why now?

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>VICE got updated to 3.0
wooooah

>>163535965
Because Dolphin dev team doesn't care about fixing things that have been already implemented.

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>>163537079
>tfw when you discover VICE has a cycle-accurate build making Hoxs64 obsolete.

>>163537392
I played the same game with dual core turned off, and am I crazy or did the framerate improve significantly?

>>163538630

Remember when Mudlord talked to a clearly suicidal person on how best to kill themselves? Emugen remembers.

>>163538914
Yet out of all their options they chose jumping off a bridge. One thing is sure, it hurt a lot until it didn't. Don't jump off bridges.

>>163538914
Remember when mudlord said he'll fix reicast?

>>163538914
>>163540125
Hey fuck you guys mudlord is a lot more knowledgeable and helpful than half the retards ITT

>>163533005
I was tempted to buy the ODROID but I'm not a fan of OpenGL. I want to learn/use a low level graphics API.

Wow I didn't know the shield tablet's battery can explode, thanks for the heads up.

I did some more googling and I couldn't find any devices that support vulkan for under $200, so I guess I might as well just buy new PC hardware in the near future.

Need some help with PPSSPP on RetroArch.
Some games crash RetroArch instantly, and I can't find the reason for this. For example, Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker crashes when I load it, but MediEvil Resurecction works flawlessly. Any clues? I don't think it's related to how big the games are or if they are 3D heavty. I can't make some 2D fighting games work, but Persona 3 Portable works.
It seems so random that I just have no clue what to do.

>>163540587
>Some games crash RetroArch instantly, and I can't find the reason for this.
The libretro port was never finished and hasn't been updated in forever. Use standalone PPSSPP.

Is anyone else having trouble with GLupeN64?
I've never had it work so I assumed it was just a broken core like Dreamcast or PSP but apparently it works for other people.

>>163530836
>Even Retroarch on Android is dogshit.
How so?

>>163541234
Does your GPU support OGL 4.5?

>>163540125
I thought reicast x64 was working again, did a recent commit break it again?

>>163541508
Yes

>>163540587
Use the standalone.

>>163541743
Is your render set to OGL?

I've been messing around with my ps2 emulator(pcsx2) for a few weeks now trying to get the settings for some games. However, I get noticeable slow down on some games no matter what settings I fiddle with.

how much of this slowdown is something relating to the emulator or the game, as opposed to my computer hardware? Can ps2 emulation performance be improved if my PC wasn't a 5 year old machine? Or are some games just doomed for eternal slow down?

>>163547031

Naw that's just the case of PCSX2 being PCSX2

>>163547031
>how much of this slowdown is something relating to the emulator or the game, as opposed to my computer hardware?
Look at the titlebar, is the fps indicated 60 at all times (50 for PAL) then any slowdown you see is from the game itself.

>Or are some games just doomed for eternal slow down?
Yeah, but having a very good PC can reduce that list quite a bit.

>>163546606
It's set to Vulkan.

>>163547450
fuck. then is there a dummies guide to running ps2 games on the lowest setting possible so they run smoothley? I'll accept shitty graphics if it means nothing is choppy or slow.

>>163547535
the fps meter at the top will dip down. I have one game that is fine in some points until it sinks to 30%. another dips down to 59fps. just low enough that sound crackles. Is there a prefered setting to 'lock fps at 60' or always have is just above 60?

FIGHTCADE DEVS HAVE THE COURAGE TO CALL THEIR PROGRAM MULTIPLATFORM, WHEN THE LINUX VERSION IS JUST THE WINDOWS VERSION WITH SOME EXTRA PYTHON FILES....
LITERALLY REQUIRES YOU TO INSTALL WINE WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

>>163547698
Change it to whatever the core uses.
Turn off rewind if it's on too.

>>163549228
I tried it in OpenGL and it works, which is fucking stupid because every other core without Vulkan support automatically uses GL
What's better is PSX_HW doesn't work in GL for me so every time I want to switch between PS1 and N64 games I have to change the renderer and restart Retroarch.

>>163514004
Ok I figured it out, if you apply .cg shaders the xmb animation reverts back to Simplified Ribbon. Using .glsl shaders doesn't cause this.

>>163549942
Yeah, I use pj64. It's difficult to decide between these two evils.
You could use parallel.

>>163547804
>Is there a prefered setting to 'lock fps at 60' or always have is just above 60?
60 in that case means the game is running fullspeed so yeah you want to leave it like that.
To avoid audio crackling and warping you can go to your audio plugin settings and fin the part where it says timestretch to async mix.

The two big things that affect performance without risking too much issues are the speedhacks (minus the sliders, those have a very deep impact on the game itself so don't touch unless you know it won't fuck up the game, also MTVU can have a negative impact on performance depending on the game) and your graphics plugin settings (also if you have an AMD GPU avoid OpenGL at all cost and avoid software with an AMD CPU).

There are some game that will just run very shit regardless of what your computer is like R&C and Jak, those I can't help you with even an high end intel CPU and Nvidia GPU ain't gonna cut it (AMD is really shit in both department for PCSX2)

>>163550405
Yeah but Parallel isn't nearly as nice.

Hey fampais, anyone know how well Pokemon Colosseum/XD emulate? For some reason I have the urge to play them again.

I want to buy a decent arcade stick for games, any suggestions? I don't really know what to go for.

I'm not very picky and I'm a poorfag, so as it doesn't have to be anything too fancy. Just has to work, pretty much. As cheap as possible.

>>163552036
>Yeah but Parallel isn't nearly as nice.
Parallel is the only thing libretro has to offer, for N64. GlupeN64 isn't any special.

>>163555007
Fine, just read the Dolphin wiki

>>163555007
>xd
Out you go newfag

>>163556738
lol

>>163548382
because only autists would really care that it's not native.

>>163551186
Not the guy you've been talking to, but /v/ said the 1.5.0 developer builds fixed some of the issues with R&C; haven't tried myself.

>>163549942
Or use two different configs launched from a shortcut with --config myconfig.cfg --menu

>>163560859
>Not the guy you've been talking to, but /v/ said the 1.5.0 developer builds fixed some of the issues with R&C
Well most of the graphical issues got fixed but the game is still insanely demanding, even my [email protected] can't do fullspeed everywhere

is there any way to not make the sound in ppsspp equate to the howl of a banshee?

>>163549942
I would much rather just use PJ64, if you're on Windows.

>>163569778
Turn it down?

Why is it such a fucking hassle to mount disks for SSF?
I think I need to convert the bin/cue to an iso so I can use virtual clonedrive instead of some chinese spyware, but every program I download to try to convert the file is some shitty chinese spyware.

Could someone please upload the .iso files for panzer dragoon saga if you have them?

>>163576240
Why not just use an older version of Daemon tools?

>>163541367
It can crash completely randomly with no error message. Since it doesn't keep autosaves when it crashes that just means lost progress.

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>>163578007
>Since it doesn't keep autosaves when it crashes that just means lost progress.

>>163578178
Thats not what I mean m8
Have you used any other emulator on Android?
They keep a save whenever you quit the program and resume that whenever you play the game again. Kind of like sleep mode in a handheld console. Retroarch doesn't do that when the thing inevitably crashes leading to lost progress.

>>163577893
Older ones don't force adware, but don't they still spy on you?

>>163578007
To be fair, it has an extra *source* of crashes apart from its own code. Nearly all phone emulators are actually prone to causing phones to overheat with their processing demands. People keep making phones that can technically meet those demands but not over sustained periods, so an end-user buys a phone that passes the baseline to run PPSSPP or whatever, cranks up the settings to see where the point just before slowdown happens is, like you'd do on a PC, then runs it into an overheat crash at those settings.

>>163578321
>They keep a save whenever you quit the program and resume that whenever you play the game again.
That's Auto Save/Load State.

>whenever you quit the program
>doesn't do that when the thing inevitably crashes
So you're complaining it doesn't save state during crash?

And regardless, I've literally never had RA crash on Android.

>>163578489
Daemon tools lite around version 3 had no spyware chink shit but still worked fine.

>>163578585
>And regardless, I've literally never had RA crash on Android.
Good for you I guess

>>163576240
I used UltraISO back when I used to play saturn on emulator.

>>163574130
It turns out that Dreamcast also only works in in GL, and the crashes when starting a game that I thought were just Retroarch being a piece of shit only happen in Vulkan
Unfortunately it looks like OpenGL is better for everything except PS1

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MM Legacy Collection includes Sprite Flicker and Slow Downs. Holy shit how did they manage to screw this up so bad? I can get a better deal through emulation.

>>163582739
it's supposed to be accurate to the nes hardware. that said, don't buy from digital eclipse

>>163583363

>muh accuracy

Is slowdown some key element of gameplay that people are nostalgic for? If I wanted accuracy that badly I'd play the originals.

It's 2016, not 1987. Besides, MM3 is the one where the lead programmer for the series left, so it's obviously due to the new team not being as good. If they could have avoided it they would have. And all the previous re-releases have zero slowdown. Fuck that hsit.

>>163582739
>>163583556
wait does it actually have no option to disable the flickering and slowdown?

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So I tried the same level in Lego Star Wars 2, and it crashed again with the same error. "unhandled exception. Any ideas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe12B6DzKMw

>>163588196
fake

>>163587273
Did you disable the dual core option this time?
If yes then try the latest dev build

>>163590386
Yes, dual core was disabled.

>>163590476
Could be a recent regression if it persists in the dev builds. You could either report it or just use a version that runs it perfectly from the wiki.

Or you could just play the PC version

>>163555929
pls respond.

>>163590958
I'd go with the cheapest HORI you can find but there are other better choices for your particular case.

>>163591031
Are those controllers good? They are very pricy where I live.

>>163590958
Just get used to a keyboard if you are only emulating the games.

>>163591096
They're good but it depends on the price you can get them, if it's more than 120-150 bucks (or local equivalent) forget about it, and yes a good brand new stick is gonna cost you that much.

Don't expect anything worthwhile under 70 bucks unless you go digging for old secondhand sticks.

>>163591205
I can get them for around 240 Reais, which is 70-something Dollars. I reckon it's around the right price.

I'm probably spoiled by the low price of chink generic controllers.

Thanks man.

>>163590670
Tried it in the dev build. It didn't crash. Guess you were right.

I'm using integrated graphics. Could that be causing it?

>>163591980
>I'm using integrated graphics. Could that be causing it?
Hard to say without a proper log and the knowledge to read it.

>>163588196
>>163588245
Seems legit

Is there any way to make the RTC strictly match your system clock in BGB?

when will pcsx2 come to retroarch

>>163596669
when retroarch reaches 1000$ per month in patreon

did they (PPSSPP) ever get around to fixing that Monster Hunter Portable 3rd multiplayer bug or do you still have to use older versions?

>>163597359
Try it for yourself, should take five minutes tops.

>>163597352
Nice. Thank you!

>>163587273
Lego Star wars complete edition is 99p at game UK at the moment.

Hey folks is NDS a viable option for GBC emulation? Or shall I hack my psvita?
Wanted to play that recently leaked pkmn prism hack.

>>163529404
Nope. It's faster than ever. Dynarmic will soon handle all instruction w/o failling back to interpreter and that should fix majority of slowdowns in games.

>>163605584
just use your mobile

>>163605929
No. I use a 2002 Nokia 6310i. The very first mobile with bluetooth.
I have no need for a smartphone.

>>163605584
Vita is probably better.

SP give me avcodec57.dll plz

>>163605584
If you've already got the Vita, just hack it.
The NDS has GameYob, which is a great emulator for Game Boy Color. But Vita has RetroArch, and Gambatte is probably the best Game Boy emulator available on handhelds.

you wouldn't savestate irl

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>>163608454

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>>163605783
>It's faster than ever
Instead of 1FPS in most games, it runs at 1.1FPS. Citra is trash and the devs are incompetent.

>>163541607
It doesn't work in Vulkan, that's probably his issue

>>163597359
I tried it with friends recently, we had to set up our own server and connect through evolve because the built in PPSSPP server would work in the lobby but disconnect in game

>>163609269
Nah. A lot of games run fullspeed already. You're full of shit.

>>163578321
>inevitably crashes
I'd like to see all those specialized one-off emulators also try to do half of what RA does at any single moment.

>>163611085
Enjoy your no sound.

What does /emugen/ think of CEMU?

>>163611272
>shitty frontend crashes because of how bloated it is without even loading a core
>retrotards defend this
no wonder SP comes here when he is butthurt. You fucks will eat anything as long as it has retro in the name and an awful UI.

>>163611661
Closed
Source
Garbage

>>163611956
works on my machine :^)

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Why am I getting a bunch of graphical garbage on the right side of the screen in Mesen? And in the bottom left hand corner.

>>163613295
Uncropped overscan.

>>163613295
Probably just parts the game draws but that were meant to be hidden.

>>163613295
legitimately working as intended

>>163609587
Yeah, that's a major problem. The rasterizer would need a rewrite to accommodate that properly.

>>163613579
What should I change in Mesen to fix it?

>>163616156
There should be an option to crop the image in the settings
Never used Mesen but there is an option to do it in FCEUX so I assume it should be in Mesen too.

No NES emulator displays full overscan, that is 280x240 at 4:3 DAR.

>>163611764
>I like a lack of features

>>163611469
But there is sound.

>>163616785
>unnecessary bloat is a feature
Is that what you tell yourself to justify the retroarch devs wasting time on shit nobody gives a fuck about?
That browser player sure must be getting dozens of hits every year and that Vulkan support sure is amazing with its uselessness.

>>163617102
>everything I don't care about (that isn't even required to be compiled in) is unecessary bloat

kys

>>163617102
>Vulkan support sure is amazing with its uselessness.

You're a fucking retard. Stop posting dumb shit like this.

>>163617541
PS1 Opengl renderer still hasn't fixed deinterlacing issues and they are already working on another backend with no benefits whatsoever
TinyTiger stopped working on infinitely more useful Parallel to work on the vulkan backend for PS1.

>>163617102
Do you consider MAME to be bloat since they often work on emulating obscure systems you probably don't care about?

>>163617951
Considering MAME merged MESS with itself, its probably one of the better examples of bloated software.

>>163617898
>and they are already working on another backend with no benefits whatsoever

Vulkan renderer is more accurate than the GL renderer and faster than the software renderer. There's your benefit.

>TinyTiger stopped working on infinitely more useful Parallel to work on the vulkan backend for PS1.

How dare devs choose to work on something different for a while. Also, the bigger problem here is that the RSP dynarec needs more work to remove its huge bottleneck. Vulkan RDP just needs VI emulation to be feature-complete.

>>163618197
>Also, the bigger problem here is that the RSP dynarec needs more work to remove its huge bottleneck.
That is one absurd claim. Z64gl with hatcat's slow-as-molasses RSP interpreter gets full speed. Meanwhile ParaLLEl struggles in 2D games.

>>163618515
>Z64gl with hatcat's slow-as-molasses RSP interpreter gets full speed. Meanwhile ParaLLEl struggles in 2D games.

Z64gl is an inaccurate, fixed-function GL plugin. Not even comparable. You are an idiot.

>>163608454
I would save scum real life so hard. If just run the same day back relatedly to abuse time powers and learn loads of stuff.

>>163618197
>Vulkan renderer is more accurate than the GL renderer
Source on that claim?

>>163618653
>Z64gl is an inaccurate, fixed-function GL plugin. Not even comparable. You are an idiot.
What does Z64gl being inaccurate and fixed-function GL have anything to do with whether or not the RSP is the main bottleneck?

The fact that Z64gl + slower RSP has better performance than ParaLLEl proves that the RSP is not the main reason for the lack of performance.

>>163619108
Not him but Vulkan displays properly while GL doesn't, at least for me.

>>163619314
Which game? I haven't touched RA in months and want to see how much it actually progressed.

>>163618819
>revert to your previous save state
>the physical matter comprising your brain reverts
>forget everything that happened
>get stuck in an infinite loop of save state reversions

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>>163619493
All of them
With Retroarch set to GL, both the GL and Vulkan backends look like this if you turn on too many enhancements
With Retroarch set to Vulkan, it all works fine

>>163619894
Oh you meant an issue on your end. I thought the vulkan backend made some non bootable games bootable.

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>>163620038
No I mean that Vulkan can display games while GL can't
Turning off all enhancements in GL works, but why do that when Vulkan looks so good?

>>163620235
I remember running crash bandicoot just fine months ago. Is that some recent regression?
Also
>using widescreen hacks for Crash bandicoot
its already a widescreen game.

>no RA nightlies for OSX available
Man, applefags get treated like jews these days.

Any alternatives?

>>163620552
>Any alternatives?
OpenEmu might be better.

>>163620625
I was considering it, though a year ago I remember that shit running like ass in comparison.

It had a nice frontend though. I guess I'll try it now, I wonder if they updated it.

>>163620462
>I remember running crash bandicoot just fine months ago. Is that some recent regression?
No that's not what I'm saying, it BOOTS in openGL, but if you turn on enhancements (Resolution scale, perspective correction, widescreen, etc) the display breaks. This happens in all games
If you want to play in OpenGL at native res with no enhancements it'll work fine

>>163619729
That would be the only problem. It'd have to leave persistent memories.

>>163617898
>PS1 Opengl renderer still hasn't fixed deinterlacing issues and they are already working on another backend with no benefits whatsoever
Their agenda is quantity over quality. They know that they can keep adding low-quality/unfinished cores, while people will continue to shill / use them.

>>163621917
Their agenda is get stuff done when it can be done.
Do you feel entitled to dictate when and how people work on stuff?

>>163619270

>What does Z64gl being inaccurate and fixed-function GL have anything to do with whether or not the RSP is the main bottleneck?

Because inaccurate emulation invariably means it's faster due to less overhead emulating things that are required for accuracy. This is like complaining about bsnes being slower than ZSNES.

Geezus.

https://github.com/hahap1pkin/DEmul-decompiled

>>163622912
Why not just admit that RA devs can't further improve ParaLLEl's performance, instead of making invalid excuses such as "RSP is the main bottleneck"?

That whole "X is faster than Y solely because of accuracy" meme is getting old.

>>163623938
What the fuck is your problem? No one ever said performance couldn't be improved. You're just making shit up at this point.

>>163623801
Is that shit actually worthwhile in any way?

>>163623801
What's the point of this? Any angry transsexual teenager can download a pirated copy of IDA and get the same result. This code is probably not even usable.

https://github.com/MoochMcGee/Emotionless

>Latest commit f7393b7 5 days ago

Holy shit, mooch resumed work on his PS2 emulator!!! It's happening !!!

>>163623801
Pointless. Redream is the future.

>>163624090
>No one ever said performance couldn't be improved.
How can it improve if you guys don't even acknowledge the real reason behind the performance issues?

>You're just making shit up at this point.
Blaming the performance difference on accuracy is disingenuous. There are cases where the "less accurate" code is also written more efficiently.

>>163624474
PCSX2 will have an x86_64 JIT and a vlk rend by 2020. Screencap this shit and post it 4 years from now.

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>>163625514
What about hps2x64? An update came out two weeks ago and nobody noticed.

>>163624116
Not a proper decompile. A proper decompile would be like:
https://github.com/powzix/kraken/blob/master/lzna.cpp

Thats how good a decompile can be. All neatly written variables, etc. Another good disassemble is the Pokemon Red disassemblies floating around.

>>163625974
Haven't managed to boot anything outside of a BIOS, granted my sample was games that always had issues with PCSX2 but still.

>>163626014
>Not a proper decompile
Would a proper one be of any actual use? (red tape notwithstanding)

>Another good disassemble is the Pokemon Red disassemblies floating around.
You mean those https://github.com/pret ?

>>163626480
>Would a proper one be of any actual use?
Definately. Would help a lot with things like working out how order independant transparency works on the DC.

>You mean those https://github.com/pret ?
Yes those are exceptionally well done.

>>163624775
>you guys

Not a developer.

You're talking to some anon. No developer talks to anyone on here unless it's shitposting.

>>163611956
hi stallman

>>163611956
>>>/g/

retroarch is great!

>>163629332
Wario is great!

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>>163627026
Oh yea you're right :) . I forgot the only real developer is "Tiny Tiger" and I'm sure he doesn't post on here.

I wonder why non-developers would have disdain towards fixed-function GL though.. People should stop parroting others, if they don't have first hand knowledge.

>>163618197
What is VI emulation and RDP?

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>>163626480
It runs FFX.

>>163634965
Because fixed function GL is deprecated and is not as capable as modern GL.

>>163629332
prove it.

Can't get Slang shaders to load with Vulkan

Anyone know how to fix?

>>163637840
I am the proof!

>>163640572
i'm gonna need something a little better than an anonymous claim. you could be lying.

>>163635805
That's a bad sign if anything. PCSX2 suffered by focusing on trying to get FFX running asap as quick and dirtily as possible.