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Wan Wan Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor :

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

Mimi and Coco'd >>163319165
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meme
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New forte evolved

Unevolved:
>>163339973
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Elana Seraph is fair and balanced
It isn't OP just because your unoptimized decks can't beat it
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>>163339945
Mimi and Coco are way cuter in the original art than either of the new ones. No buy.
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DISCARD DRAGON WILL DOMINATE THIS WORLD
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Dont Open!
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Reminder to remove elf
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This is the dragon prebuilt deck.
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>Revelation 2 turns in a row
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>when they pull the plug in Arena
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Stop bullying dragons you shits.
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Animated Alt Art when?
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If one of my follower gets turned into a snowman for example, and I urd it... Will it stay a snowman, or will it go back to the original follower?
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>>163340047
Thats not cute enough
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boy
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>>163340138
Are Scholar and Deathmist really so bad in ramp that they had to give us Orb Dragon and Shapeshifter?
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>>163339541
don't bully this "knight", she's both elf and women, do you expect she will give up her pretty hair for practical helmet?
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>tfw stopped rerolling when I got a bunch of legendaries, notably Forte
>thought about playing dragon because of her
>later find out dragon is the most meme craft of all
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>>163340214
You're urding a snowman
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>tfw entirely indifferent to the new art legos

I guess I'm saving my money.
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>>163340249
>Dragon more meme than Shadow
Even when Shadow is top tier it's silly.
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>>163340264
I just see it as an easier way to complete decks, 500 crystals is a pretty good value.
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>>163340249
Face dragon is actually tier 1

Why are you saying this shit?
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>>163340138
>orb dragon
>shapeshifter

For what purpose? You would think they'd put in Scholar to push the discard meme.
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So. Are we getting more story?
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>having different accounts for different decks
is this a thing
so much hassle
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>>163340219
This loli wolfgirl mauls odin to death
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>>163340232
>talking about practicality
>when you're playing SV, the game where no one wears practical armor
Practical armor is a myth in general too, people wore all kinds of retarded shit just because they wanted to look cool.
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Is this how you should treat your Erika?
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>>163340220
>>163340308
What really confuses me is that they passed on Conflagration.

>>163340314
You should be able to reasonably complete a deck in each craft in half a year as casual F2P. It's not worth it to keep multiple accounts for most players, the game is really generous.
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This is your toy for tonight. Have fun!
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>>163340249

Shadow literally has the memest decks though

>Atomeme
>Deathly Tyrant combo

Face Dragon is tier 1, even Rune hasmore meme builds like ptp dirtrune
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>join game
>gets stuck before mulligan
>can't help but close it
>points subtracted
explain this shit shadowbabies
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>>163340370
>Erika bullying
Delete this or I'll delete you
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>>163340307

Just won like my 10th game tonight with face, still wondering why nobody hops on this deck yet. With a little tweaking it's great but the netdeck is shit
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>>163340339
>implying you wouldnt shit bricks if something like this came at you swinging
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>>163340427

Bonus
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>>163340232
>Helmet is the most normal thing in her getup
>Retards colapse on it.

Holy shit.
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>>163340427
Too old, only good for cooking nice food like all moms do
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>>163340508
Nah, there are scarier things in RoBverse, armor means nothing.
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>>163340427
>>163340539
That's a good toy, I think I'll take her
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>>163340427
i dont remember Eris having yellow eyes
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>>163340427
I never notice her eye color changed in the story mode. Or was it unused?
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>>163340547
You don't dignify arms and armorfags with a response, their autism is terminal.
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Are you gonna buy the premade decks because you need the cards?
Or buy them for the exclusive alternate artworks?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11918622/
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>>163340152
>Not three.
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>>163340604
Play the story
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>>163340617
Intern-kun, is that you?
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>>163340610
>>163340604
last chapter after shadow(blue) Eris merges with Pink eyed Eris
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>>163340249
>>163340428
People only give Rowen shit because bullying a loli is looked down upon.
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>>163340617

it just so happens I need my last copy of foul tempest, phantom howl, death's breath, cerb, mordecai and lord of the flies. It's to complete my sets and finally start playing every non-meme shadow deck
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>>163340691
>non-meme shadow
No such thing
t. shadow main
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>>163339945

evolved is good, but the unevolved alt art is so horrible, i mean, look at her neck.

Gonna buy rune deck for merlin instead i guess
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>>163340659
>Intern-kun inflitrates /svg/
>twitter posts become even more and more inane
>in the end its literally JUST- and waifuposting on official shadowverse channel
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>>163340718

wan wan!
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>>163340497
What do you do?

I've played around with it, but I have issues with healspam, wardspam, and the inability to run siggy and DoD/Exe.

So I usually go back to my take on storm/ramp which produces real nice results.
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From today's reveal, that's every card in RoB, yes? Also where's the link for Shadow's prebuilt dick.
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>>163340613
Nah, see I'm also kinda autistic about this stuff, mostly because "bikini armor" manages to look like garbage 50% of the time (80% if drawn by westerners), but hey, something's gotta give if you want waifus (granted most armored girls in this game are closer to Hilda and Saber than your usual swimsuit with spikes) because no one actually looks attractive with 20 kilos of metal on them.
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>>163340617
Probably getting Sword. Alwida's is the only card I really want but my sword pool is shit with 0 legend and few golds so I might as well have Midrange on standby.

Waiting for Blood list. I need cards from there too but I have my Mary playset already so it comes down to how many dupe golds there are for me.
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How do I get good guys

I've been stuck halfway through AA1 for like one week

I just can't get any more points

Should I craft midsword too?
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>yfw Rune deck has Pascale and Alternate art Mythril Golem
>Golds include staples like Rimewind, Winter's Caprice, Conjuring Force and Multipart Experiment

truly value
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Can anyone link the crystal dragon deck?
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>>163340776
>Inability to run Siggy
What?
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>>163340659
>>163340726

Not quite. But I was the one who made this teaser.

>>163340793

https://shadowverse.jp/column/detail.php?id=post-2584
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>>163340427
>lower left
Looking chuuni there, Eris. Also, I really want to grab her by the waist.
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>even in the prebuilt deck dragon gets the shitty 2 gold cards
>elf and shadow gets all the good gold

Im not sure about the rest. Anyone have sword, and blood prebuilt deck pictures?
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>>163340539
>>163340427
If they ever continue the story mode, will Eris end up like this?
>Rowen: Draw your last pathetic card so I can end this, Eris.
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>>163340843
Siggy AND DoD.

I meant that you can only use Siggy for hard removal, which really sucks, DoD puts in so much work that losing it hurts a ton.
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>>163340879

Sword has Aurelia and alt art Otohime. Not sure about the golds, it was in a magazine scan
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>>163340824
post dick
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So are the alt arts animated or not?
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Fairy Beast should not exist
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>>163340805
>no one actually looks attractive with 20 kilos of metal on them
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>>163340047
Look at this dork.
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>>163340850

>shadow burd
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>>163340960

Will of the Forest shouldn't exist
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>>163340891
Eh, I'm fine with it because a lot of the time 5 mana for a removal kills your tempo. Combining Siggy with a Deathmist Dragon means you don't have to swing things into something to kill something. The main problem with Siggy is that you kinda need a board to use him, but if you lack a board, DoD/Execution won't help you win that game.
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>>163340879
>>163340943

Sword gets alt Otihime and Aurelia
Golds are:
>White Paladin
>Latham
>Alwida's Command
>Frontguard General
>Drawonewt Charlotte
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>>163340879
Sword golds are great except Latham. Haven only gets Garuda and Themis for played golds but they're in a weird spot since Haven golds are a mess in the first place.
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>>163340943
It had Frontguard General, Awilda, White Paladin, Charlotte, and Latham. Basically all the good gold cards you'll see in various decks along with Latham. They really fucked up with the Dragon deck.
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>>163340963
Well if that counts, then Hilda from Soul Calibur too. But this was mainly to the autists foaming at that elf.
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>see the new same name removal

Otohime will become trash kek
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>>163341012
>>163340960
Forest should not exist
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>>163341071
TEAR DOWN THE WALL
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>>163341018
Do the bodyguards get alt art?
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Win streaks make me nervous
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>>163341115
Fuck off back to Mexico.
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tsk, who is gonna buy that shitty dragon deck, the alt art forte aint even cooler than the original, and fafnir is kinda dust tier, if not now, then in RoB

for now Elf and Shadow seems like winners, but cerb alt art is kinda meh unevolved, so i guess its up to the Merlin alt art for rune to compete with forest.
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>>163341139

We don't know yet.
If they do, so would Coco and Mimi.

But I doubt that the tokens get alts.
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>>163341071
That depends if it's even useful in other matchups. Outside of fairy removal and dirtrune it seems like dead deck space.
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>>163341140
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM IT'S TIME TO DUEL
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>haven't drawn floral fencer in 8 (eight) games
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>>163341049
It's bloody pointless is what is, the elf looks fine, people should be happy she's in armor and has a helmet at all.
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>>163340776

I replace the standard removal cards with serpent wrath so I can deal with wards with high health, put in two serpent forces and use those on my trinity dragons so they become unkillable 6/6's sometimes, and put in dragon counsel. To do this I removed dragonewt princes and the other card in the netdeck which deals 1 damage for every discarded card. its a useless combo and gives you 6 free spaces for something better.
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we better not get alt art beast dom I swear to god cygames bad enough we got otohime over aurelia
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Fuckin finally
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>>163341180
>2 PP 3 damage removal
>dead deck space
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>>163341018
Do you know what gold is in the blood prebuilt? Im guessing vania, fort, dire blood?, Temptress Vampire, revelation, and Erinyes?
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>>163341162
Rune has the worst overall card pool and out of the good ones they mix poorly. I'm kind of expecting Merlin/Mythril so they can vaguely keep it in one archetype, then DShift, Levi and a bunch of trash.
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>>163341256

I keep demonic strike though, its good for face and follower removal. blazing breath is shit. theres already tons of cards in the deck that are followers and deal 2-3 damage.
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>Prebuilt decks available from Dec 29! The Roar of the Netherflame deck contains a copy of Cerberus with special art.
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>>163340824
Sometimes you just have to play through it.

I was also stuck in AA1 for a while no matter what I played because I would keep bricking.
>half my 6pp cards in hand the first few turns as Sword
>0 Altered Fates and 2 PTPs
>0 Arias and 2 Garudas
etc.

Then I tried some bats and I happened to face a shitload of DShift and Storm Haven at the time and ranked up. Once I hit AA2, all the Swords and Forests reappeared and bats went into the shitter and I'm not making much progress again.

Right now I'm playing Ramp Dragon and skipping turn 5s and shit. Probably if I focused on 1 or 2 crafts it would be better, but as long as you're not deranking the winstreaks will come eventually.
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>>163341326

They haven't been revealed yet.
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>>163341326
Blood and Rune are unrevealed. Sword is technically revealed but has no article so it might eat up a day of updates before we get the remaining lists.

Alt art is probably Queen and she's definitely going to be one of the legends, but Beast Dom might steal it since she has a big fanbase.
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>>163341367
that's what happens when you play inconsistent decks
at least even without elana healing is still healing
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1 damage deal 13 damage to your leader
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>Ambushed evolved Aurelia into Gabriel on hidden Tsubaki waiting with Swift Infiltrator for going lethal the turn after
>3/4 wins thanks to Ambush and Gabriel on Tsubaki lethal, 1 just an evolved Warbound buffed by Gabriel for 11 face damage
>4/5 gone first
>4/5 agaist Dragon and 3 of them had Olivia for free evolves
Ambush Sword is fun but, bet only in Arena though
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>>163340882
More like
>Rowen: D-draw your last card so I can end myself
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>>163341353
HEAR THE NETHERFLAME'S ROAR
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>>163341461

They dont do alt art DE I believe. Bloody Mary should be there, but Queen Vampire will probably be the alt art
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>>163341353
What a shitty name.
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Agree or disagree: Seraph decks are inherently gimmicky because their win condition depends on drawing one specific card
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I did it
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>>163341724
More than 1 specific card if you wanna win in one/two turn(s)
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Post husbands.
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>>163341886
muh dick
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How do I get dingaling card sleeve
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>>163341743
>beat a bricked elana as aggronigger
good job son
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i have a need
a need for meme decks
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>>163341961
You don't.
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>>163341743

Good job!
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>>163341724

Good thing elena/seraph hybrid got more than one win cond then
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>>163341970
In the board is clearly a control blood and i executed the first Elana.
And when i get the vengeance nuked the entire board with a lot of big drops

>>163341961
First you need a delorean energy of 1,21 Gigawatt and lucky
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Alexander should be 7 PP.
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>>163341724
It's called a win con. It isn't like you can't make it so that you consistantly draw Seraph.
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>Vampy essentially becomes a 5/5 AND deals one free damage when evolved

It's not fucking fair

Remove this fake loli
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>>163342126
Yeah let's nerf the worst class right now
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>>163342126
Vampy is underpowered compared to Levi.
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>>163342126
>Levi becomes 4\4 fanfare: deal 3 damage AND spellboost your hand

It's not fucking fair

Remove this fake ojiisan
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>>163342169
>worst class
uhhhhh
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>>163342175
Almost everything is underpowered compared to levi
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>>163342126
Cry harder faggot
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>Only have 1 Aurelia and 2 Otohimes
>Don't know if can craft 2 Alberts at release
Maybe i should just run 2 Aurelias 2 Himes and 2 Alberts and call it a day
How are you going to do your 5+ distribution swordbros?
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>>163342169

That's not Rune
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>>163342250
>#1 guy on the ladder plays dshift
>rune is the worst class
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nub trying to make face-flute deck
suggestions?
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>>163342242
1-2 Avant
2 Albert
2 Aurel
2 Alwida
1-2 Tsubki
2 Oto
2 Sage
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>>163342216

Levi doesn't do anything if not evolved, Vampy still has her bat synergy

Also Crimson Sorcery costs an extra mana
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>>163341018

Why does sword get two alt art cards?
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>>163342373
hurr
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>>163342373
They only get one, and that's Otohime.
Aurelia is normal.
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>>163342217
What are you trying to imply?
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>>163342329
I don't actually Run Dragoncraft but
Putting Bellringer Angel will help you survive
and draw as well
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>hear faint healing noises
>look up your chimney
>see this
What do you do?
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>>163342329
Remove Flute
Remove Genesis
Replace Counsel with Emissary
Add 2 more Forte
Replace Oracle,Aeia and Roc with Sieg,Warrior and Ironscale
Here, now you have a working Face deck instead of a bad RampFace hybrid
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>>163342448
But i dont have a chimney in my house
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>>163342216
>I'm just a mage, who's as old as dirt.
>Its just like back in the old days!
>does 7 damage for 3 pp
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>>163342431
Let's not discuss this bloodplayers are well know about not being litlle crying bitches like shadow or dragon
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>>163342431
> Implying implications
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>>163342349
>implying dshift have any other followers to spend evo points on aside one merlin
also for bat synergy you need mana to play them
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>>163342443
ok
>>163342452
but i want to use flute
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>>163342448
I dont have a chimney
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This game is such a fucking grind with its rank scores
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>>163342472
>>163342547
you do now
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>>163342591
>elana cancer
nobody cares about your plight, shithead
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>>163342624
Look man i was just trying to do my dailies
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>>163342315

it is though. Just because 1 guy specializes in playing DShift doesnt mean the class is in anyway strong. DShift has abyssmal winrates across all archetypes with the exception of Elana Haven, which is already outdated in favor of Seraph hybrids.

Blood has aggro bats, literally one of the reasons why people tech in Angelic Barrage aside from Forest, and a very respectable Blood Control deck archetype that does well in closed tournaments.

Meanwhile, Rune has 1 "real" deck which isn't remotely good in climbing ladders, and meme variants like Pascale Rune or PtP Rune.
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>>163342591
>playing a retard-tier deck
>still complaining
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Need a concede

28357
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>>163341961
Would also like to know this
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>>163342495
>bloodplayers are well know about not being litlle crying bitches like shadow or dragon
lol
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>>163342591
>bming as elana/seraph
>in the shitter ranks at that
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>>163342667
just cause you can't play dshift doesn't mean it's a bad deck
you don't get to #1 on the ladder with a huge gap by playing an underpowered deck
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>>163342667
But ptp dirtrune is pretty common on ladder
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What would it be like if each craft had a 2 PP hero power like hearthstone?

Blood: Summon a bat, deal one damage to your leader
Haven: Heal 2 damage
Shadow: Gain 2 shadows
Dragon: Discard a card, draw a card
Forest: Add a fairy to your hand
Rune: Deal 1 damage
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WHICH ONE
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Why is elena so hated? Its not even that good
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>>163342716
Shitter ranks end on and include A0
A1 and up is just low ranks
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>>163342785
>it's not even that good
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>>163342785
Because more than 90% of the players base are casual players that don't know how to play against good decks.

So this why they are all crying babys
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>>163342784
Silver Bolt
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>>163342828
shitter ranks end at AA3
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>>163342773
no fuck you
hero powers and weapons are the most retarded shit
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How does dshift win if they don't draw dshift
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>>163342349
>Pay 3 mana for a 4/4 (1 HP off evo'd Dragon Warrior) that also spellboosts/can hit face. Lmao what a bad card
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Are you here Yami?
I'm sorry for stealing your meme.
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>>163342903
Magic
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>>163342852
More like the grind ends at AA3 they seriously take an ungodly amount of time to rank up even if you non stop win.
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>>163342903
they go through 80% of their deck in like 6 turns so chances are you will draw it
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>>163342903

They play traditional control: Wipe all threats, accumulate raw card advantage and churn out multiple Flame Destroyers backed up by Ice Golem. That or do the tempo route with Snow Golems. The point of decision is around turn 6-7, if by then the DShift player still doesn't have DShift, they go to plan B, unless they have multiple Sorcery Caches
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>>163342903
they can just burn face if against blood
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>>163342903
Drop all 3 flame beasts and hope they dont have removal
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>guys ;)
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>>163342773
>haven: heal 2 damage
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You should be able to use all your evolves in one turn.
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>>163342773
The only thing I'd like to see in sv that hs has is secrets
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Can anyone help out with a private match quest?
Room number's 17380
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>>163340832
>alt art mythril golem and not pascale
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Control Blood is secret T1, it will be T0 when RoB hits
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>>163343207
Don't tell our secret. All the shitters will start to play it because is good not because they like the class.
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>>163343123
Thanks
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>>163343243

It's okay shitters cannot into Blood because it actually requires a brain to play
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>>163342894
Could you develop ?

I like Hero Powers desu they give you something to do if you like/have to play off-curve. And I love the value ones like Lesser Heal and Totemic Slam. Tank Up is retarded though.

I guess weapons wouldn't work in SV due to the smaller health pool
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>>163342894
Eh, I think Duelyst has a good idea about the system, barring the fact you can literally ping off any artefact without even blinking in 4/6 factions.
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>>163343330
>implying shadowverse requires higher than 70 iq for even the hardest classes
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>>163343363
>tfw you realize people in this thread is below 69 IQ so its relevant
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>>163343525
>people in this thread is

Yourself included I take it?
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>>163343580
If you agree with him you include yourself too
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how many crystals are the prebuilts going to cost?

cant decide if i want that hot new forte or that sexy fucking cerberus.
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>>163342538
Flute is an akward card to play, you can run it into a FaceDragon but it won't be your wincon, Trinity and Forte are,and you mightcurse that thing when it change a Mushu or a Trinity.
Hellflame is fine and good at trading the board with rush and fat body but Flute is a slow card in a glass canon deck aiming for fast games
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.5zWm2.5zWm2.5zWm2.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.5_394.5_394.5_394.62sac.62sac.62sac.66giC.66giC.66giC.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.62sam.62sam.62sam.62u_c.62v0O.62v0O.66gi2.66gi2.66gi2.66oGQ.66oGQ.66oGQ.61LeE.61LeE.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.62zty.62zty.62zty
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>draw bad
>opponent goes 123
>lose yet another chance of 5-0 despite a good deck
I like HS arena system more. At least a single game with shit draws doesn't ruin it completely .
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>>163343639
First one 500, then 700
You can buy a max of 3 decks
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>>163343363
>>163343525
>>163343580
>>163343627
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>>163343703
>You can buy a max of 3 decks
What
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> Tfw you play someone with probably the same deck as you.

That was fun.
I enjoyed knowing the potential ways my enemy could slay me and enjoyed watching them NOT have those cards even more.
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>>163343681
Then just go play HSarenamagestone.
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>>163343747
per class. why would anyone want to buy more than 3 decks each anyway? to liquefy everything?
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>>163343785
You should have said per class in the first time then, you bake
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>tfw got memed by an ambushed Cursed General giving Storm to shit like Floral Fencer and her cucks orbiter
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Arena is the most balanced. gone 5-0 with all except blood and rune, but that's probably because I don't play blood and rune in arena.

Arena is also most fun.

>>163343812
I'm not even that person. Take it easy anon-kun
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>>163343346
Weapons are inherently bad design.
Multi-use burn that is incredibly uninteractive is just bad.
HP to use on minions doesn't help when a single weapon is almost always equivalent to at least 2 burn spells. They encourage mindless face and cause followers that could have been played to not be, just because "dies to win axe."
They are simply not fun.

Hero Powers choke out card design. Warlock gets bad cards because it has the god draw ability. They do not give it strong followers for the most part because can you imagine what would happen if something with good draw also had good followers? It'd make piratestone look like a joke in comparison. The Hero Power ultimately says "we cannot have cards that are too good in X,Y, or Z because the hero power is effectively an infinite-use card that could just break the game entirely. If rogue got a 3pp give your weapon +3atk, well I hope you enjoy rein of the SMOrc with those knives going face.

They are both terrible mechanics.
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>>163343785
It's not per class
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>>163343860
Blood and Rune are terrible for Arena, especially Rune
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>couldn't even make the holiday special deal 500 crystals so people would be encouraged to buy it for the prebuilt decks

What are they even doing?
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>>163343917
Fair enough, so Runefags can stay in ranked and get off to their solitaire then. I won't miss them in arena.
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>>163343917
Rune is not that bad in arena.
They do pretty well against sword
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>>163343965
jewing
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>>163343867
Hero powers can be implemented well though, look at Hex.
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>would've bought the 500 crystals
>now because it's only 300 I ain't going to buy shit because it won't be enough

Seems like they jewed themselves out.
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>>163343672
what's up with that link?
i'll try to make it work in unranked anyway
don't have a lot of golds and legs to do anything else
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>>163343975
Rune in Arena has the problem the draft can shit out Rite and Spell abominations, shit doesn't work
But if they get good drafts their decks will be constructed tier always.
So Rune in Arena is either 5 wins or 5 loses
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>>163344052
same here
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>>163344071
It a declist, i am on mobile
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>>163344052
they basically punish you for not buying only daily deal
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>>163344052
Eh, 6 packs is 6 packs
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>>163344075
>>163343992
The rare time I play Rune in arena I always go dirt and have made 4-1 and 3-2 a few times, but yeah it's not easy.
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>>163343965
Yes, see this great deal for 300 crystals? Buy it, its good value!
Now look, this is a premade deck with beautiful alt art of your favourite cardfu right here just for 500 crystals(first time)!
You already have 300, just have to buy 200 more to get it!
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>>163343867
Did that 1 mana give your weapon +2 attack rogue card make them more face than usual?
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>beat a guy with bloodcraft adept flair when i only have less than 60 wins with bloodcraft

He was using a control deck with a bunch of legos, and i was just using a half scrap up aggro blood deck.

Whats the point of making control blood if it cant even beat the aggro verison of it? The only thing I craft was 1 Vampiric Fort. Really makes you think.
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>novice trooper

Anyone else think this piece of shit is fucking broken? 2/2 storm for 3PP ?
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>>163343867
Win Axe and some other weapons (Doomhammer mainly) are actually retarded. But I feel like Argent Lance or Truesilver Champion are ok, they seldom go face.

I never thought of Hero Powers in this light before. I always thought of them as mechanics that allowed more synergetic design space, never really considered that they also limited it.
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>>163344052
>>163344082
>>163344125
>50% discount if you're not in a rush
>FUCKING HALF OFF
>entitled babies whining
kek
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>>163344171
>oh shit 300 on SALE this is good shit because SALE
>bahh another 200 for like 4$ but no SALE, nah too expensive

That's how humans work most of the time. Others would've bought the new packs and crystals no matter what anyway.
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>>163344349
But I don't need more random packs.
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>Turn 4 Floral Fencer
>Turn 5 Monika
I AM BECOME DEATH
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>>163344330

Symbol of pride; being able to specialize in a particular archetype or deck and take it to success. Even more so if its a niche deck
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>>163344330
Because it beats stuff aggro doesnt
Its just a different fucking deck, how is it hard to understand
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>>163344443
what does monika do again?
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Are fairies good?
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>>163344335
Doomhammer isn't actually a problem, it's all the other retarded cards shaman got that made it a problem.

And reminder that blizzard designed hero powers to compliment the class playstyles. They intended hunter to be a control class with a direct damage hero power that put the opponent on a timer, and warrior to be an aggro class with a defensive hero power that kept it alive while it went face. I really don't think it's possible to look at hearthstone and intuit that blizzard truly intended most of the shenanigans that happened to be purposeful game design, and doing so is putting too much stock in a group of paid monkeys.
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>>163344349
they thought it would get people to buy the 300 sale + spend a lot more for the remaining, but its actually going to stop people from saying "oh a good sale for a nice new deck sweet"
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>>163344557
Summon knight
Evo: Cast Unbridled Fury
With T4 Floral her Evo would do 5 damage
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>>163344443

>implying FF will live more than a turn
>implying it won't be just 3 damage after cuckgel

3 is still better than 0 I guess.
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>>163344602
Ive never seen more powerful 1 drops in any game even delver of secrets is merely okay on their presence
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>>163344676
It's basically a better Dragon Warrior.
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>>163344676
Honestly 3 damage is good
It removes Cudgel that banished floral and hit steelclad
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>draft 2 otomemes
>get to play 0 of them during the whole run, because I either didn't draw them (3 games) or because I drew one at the end of the game where I could get lethal with some other card
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>>163344335
Truesilver seems less awful because Paladin has been awful since secret died. That and paladin can't really mindlessly mash face.

True Silver is beyond ridiculous as well.
Think about it like this, it is essentially two burn spells for 4 dmg that also heal for two.
4dmg burn is about 3mp~
Heal for 2 is like 0.5mp

So it becomes the equivalent of 6mp of burn and 1mp of heal over two turns. So 7mp in total, with 3.5mp of value per turn. For 4mp. Not only do you get broken-ass value from it over time, you barely lose any tempo from playing it on curve.

And all weapons are like that.
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>>163344719
Well it's probably a better 5pp drop than fucking Avant blader.
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>>163344736
>draft 2 otohime
>they carried to me the easiest 5-0 of my life
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>>163344676
3 damage is enough to kill the evolved bastard that killed floral fencer
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>>163344573

literally the most broken class
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>>163344521
Aggro blood doesnt beat what exactly? I beat elana too, you just gotta go fast. The only tricky one is ironically fighting against banner.
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>>163344613
>too cheap to buy 200 crystal for a normal amount while getting 300 crystal at half price
You're a fucking moron, you're still saving. Only idiots like you think like this.
>oh I could've gotten a better deal so I'm not buying instead
Poorfags gonna poor.
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>>163344805
By go fast you mean "get perfect curve and your opponent does nothing on his first 4 turns" right?
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>>163344770
Comparing Monika with Avant is dumb. They have different purpose.
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>>163344707
Overstatted low drops is something blizzard has to stop. 2 drops are strong, but 1 drops are insane. As if tunnel trogg wasn't strong enough, small time buccaneer has effectively an easier activation condition with tribal synergy all for 1 mana. The problem is they can't make 1 health 1 drops that don't have a protective ability like stealth on worgen infiltrator, because of the presence of hero powers.
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Reminder to remove subhumans
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>>163344805
So if elana doesn't draw heals, scripture, aria, or cudgel, you can beat it before it heals off all your dmg while having an indestructable board that wipes you down.

Honestly, from reading what your posts, you really sound like a complete idiot.

I mean why run any other blood when Double Suicide kills on turn 4-5?
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>>163344991
http://usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
http://usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
http://usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
http://usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
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>>163344989
Wonder if pirate warrior has effected player base or people are just dulled to pain.
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>>163344797
How so?
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>opponent has a 1/1 up
>plays two 2/2s
>then plays goblinmount demon
uhh

okay
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>>163345141
They are the bringers of apocalypse
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>>163344991
So bats, faeries, ivory dragons, goblins, centaurs, fish midgets, wraiths, children, skeletons, vampires, golems, geese, knights, and snowmen are all subhuman.

But dragonnewts and dwarves are A-okay.
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>Rune finally gets Storm
With Conjuring Force on the board it basically becomes a Roach doesn't it?
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>>163345141

Has every tool, can play any strategy, great followers, synergy and value.

That said, any fast deck can just push enough damage to beat it if they don't have Crystalia Tia + Nature's Guidance or Will of the Forest, and dedicated control decks can just outvalue it lategame, but Forest remains a class that has minimal bad matchups, which makes it good.
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>>163345109
Pirate warrior is shit. It's inconsistent, and only stands a chance of winning if it gets the literal god draws in its first 6 cards. Reynad had it listed as tier 1 the first week, a bunch of people in the threads called bullshit, and the next week it dropped to top tier 2. Other sources had it listed mid tier 2 at the highest from the beginning.

The real thing that makes this pirate meta unbearable is small time buccaneer. Patches doesn't amount to shit without this fucker's synergy in shaman and rogue, both of which are legitimate Tier 1 decks.
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>>163345246
Dwarves are bros unless you wrong them first.
Dragonewts are awaiting judgement
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TO GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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>>163345290
Post Conjuring Force, I'm lazy
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>>163345290
Rune is going to be a lot of fun in 8 days.
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>>163345290
Remove elf
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>>163345350
Well i didn't know, i didn't play much to realize this wasn't gonna be a fun meta
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>>163345436
+1/+1 when you cast spell I think.
Basically drop 0pp storm dude and spam spells
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>>163345290
If only. Shame about the amulet's mp cost.

I was really worried about this, but I think I might actually be okay with it.
6mp requires 3 spellboosts to be on curve, which while not hard to do, and requires either insight->clarke to do on curve. 2/2 just isn't as scary without any sort of buff like banner, though you better bet I'll be salty as all get out when I eat a Daria into next turn 3 1pp 2/2 storms.

I think it might not be as absolutely ridiculously OP as I first worried rune might turn out.
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What's the difference between a traditional goblin and a Japanese goblin?
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>>163345508
Sorry, I meant +1/+0. Only Elana is allowed +1/+1
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>tfw want to play rune but dont wanna play as slutty cow or spend 500 rupies for old fart

I pay 1k Crystal for Anne leader Cygames.
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>>163345508
+1/+0*

Can't have anything even remotely as good as Elana :^)
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>>163345508
It's +1/0 whenever you cast a spell.

I know.
I got meme'd on by a conjuring force chilly Dshift deck once.
It was beautiful.
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>>163345524
Female jap goblins are just mud elves
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>>163345508
It also works on stuff like Summon Snow, Cojure Golem/Twosome.
>Drop Conjuring Force
>Next Drop Snow/Golems on board
>Triggers CF
>Followers gets buff.
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Reminder to play banner in high ranks just to fuck up all the elanas and dshifts
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>>163345524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc8iu0XFUQc

One has mental issues.
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>shadow assassin carrying games in arena
wtf I love ambush now
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>>163345290
>Conjuring Force is 5 pp for +1/0 per spell
>Elana's Prayer is 3 pp for +1/+1 per heal
Why the FUCK is this allowed?
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>>163345028
But it did draw all of that and healing bunny, but just like banner you just have to apply pressure by bringing their health down on turn 3 when they drop elana.

Your the dumbass for assuming.
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>>163345518
You need a lot of mana to get deadly roach combo as well.
T1-4 do a lot of card drawing and some board control.
T5 drop Conjuring Force.
T6 drop 1-3 x 0pp 2/2 with storm and shit out other 0-2pp spells.

Can be deadly
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>>163345746
B-because haven has no f-followers since it plays amulets so it needs a way to catch up after it keeps himself open for ONE single turn. Imagine that.
I wonder what would happen if Banner gave +1/+1 to all officers each time an officer comes into play.
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>>163345524
SEXY MEDIUM VIOLET ONI
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> Just had my first 3 loss streak after almost 40 hours.

I made it to B1 and it finally feels like Vania battgro is running low on steam.
I'm still winning more than i'm losing, but it's getting pretty rough with all these Sword and FILTHY HAVEN players.
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>>163345819
Craig and Clarke are basically bricks for that deck though, because they don't activate it.
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>>163345962
>B1 blogging
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Oh man guys im on a 18 win streak with elena haven in A3 am i cool yet
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>>163344836
lol im not going to waste money on fucking crystals fucking 6 packs? thats it? the fuck waste of money
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>>163345962
Haven is one of your best matchups though. Lolibats will keep you going up until A1 at least. When you start running into elf cancer is when you need to switch.
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>>163346112
>three dollars for a game i play is a waste of money.
Hows being poor
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>>163345964
It's gonna be tricky to make this deck work, sure. It won't be on the level of DShift with spellboosting because it needs followers too. It has a lot of potential though, I'm interested to see what comes of it in practice.
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>Dragon and Blood is a joke in the manga
>Meanwhile, Cygames endlessly shills Forest, Rune and Shadow.
JUST
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>>163346210
I'd rather shove those three dollars up my fucking asshole then waste it on a few piddly cards
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>>163346142
With the limited experience I have, Haven is either a fast 5 turn stomp in which I win or a gruelling miserable shit show in which the enemy has endless wards and heals.
But thanks, good to know that Lolibats should stay strong for a bit longer.
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>>163346259
>shills Shadow
You sure 'bout that?
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>>163346330
Well, at least they didn't make Shadow and Luna a joke.
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>>163346259
>shadow

You mean sword right?
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>>163346371
DUELS HAVE NO END
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>>163346371
LET'S MAKE IT RIGHT
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>>163346401
Unless your leader got nuked by 3 PtPs.
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>>163346492
I hope you like getting all your ptps petrified.
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>>163346259
What a surprise
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>>163346617
Explain this comic
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Earth Rite Enhance when?
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>>163346259
Get yourself together Rowen,summon satan on turn 7
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>>163345753

Sorry but Elena/seraph hybrid with decent draws will halt you and stabilize around turn 5, even imp lancers wont be able to finish the job if they cudgelled twice and proceeds to only heal from there
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4kAMFuRFG0

>even in the ads they shit on dragon
lul
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>>163345753
What? Only retards that dont know how to play the deck drop elana on turn 3 against aggro
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>>163346875
Tasukaru
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This is not fair, leave Rowen alone. he doesn't deserve the laughs
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CRYSTALLIA TIA

MORE LIKE BRICKTALIA TIA

GET IT

BECAUSE SHE BRICKS YOUR HAND FOR ONE NIGHT STRAIGHT

WHAT A GREAT CARD!
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>>163342495
This is hilarious, as Blood crying was drowning out any meaningful discussion during DE launch.
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>>163346773
I wander if they will ever introduce cards requiring 2+ sigils to activate.
>6pp 3/3
>Earth Ritex4: This gets +7/+7 and storm
>Evolve: Deal 3dmg to all other folllowers and summon guardian golem for each enemy follower destroyed
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>>163346907
Not heaven player here but I'm curious, what is Elana's strategy agains aggro then?
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>>163347121
Drop followers instead? Elana can wait.
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>>163347121
mulligan for blackened, rabbits, heal angels, blackened, cudgel
hope to draw as much heal followers as possible + themis for turn 6
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>prebuilt

What the fuck, building and crafting decks is a major part of the game. This is going to be awful.
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Finally made Mr. Skeletal's wallpaper.

See the rest of the wallpapers here: https://imgur.com/a/JHFiT
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>>163347121
Stall with scriptures, cuckgels. Trade birds.
Then drop Themis, Elana and like 3 heals per turn from there.
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>>163346615
I hope the cowtits die before she can
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>>163347190
Hello retard

How are you doing this morning?
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What's the quickest way to get vials?
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>>163347281
Be a whale.
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>>163347197

Nice.
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>>163347281
Pick a couple crafts youll probably never play and liquefy the entire collection.
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>>163347121
the same strategy as usual

sit there drooling like a retard for 6 turns then drop themis and snowball
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>>163343867
I get your point, but also concider that HS is just a showcase of bad design riding off WoW.
Almost every other TCG that uses stuff like this (Hex and Duelyst) have them implemented better than Jewstone. hex just gives you hero power in smaller amount, while Duelyst makes it Cheaper, but less abuseable (for instance their "warlock" has good creatures, but drawing gives his enemy a card too, making him lowest-of-the-low tier untill this newest xpac where he got more ways to mill the enemy while drawing)

Also their items have 3 hits that are lost whenever the face takes damage, so most decks can deal with them easily without dedicated removal.
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>>163347041
I'd prefer
>gain magic negation, immunity to destroy effects and takes two places on the board, one part has ward, another rush.
>Evolve give itself athena's buff and create a sigil on board
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>>163347234
I am very well actually, and you?
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Anyone wanna concede?
31727
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>>163346267

y-yeah those 3 dollars are much better spent elsewhere, like on chips and soda hehee
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>>163347349
>mfw the craft I dislike the most is the one that I have drawn most legendarys from packs for.
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>>163347364
Oh yeah, anything that has dedicated counterplay can be fine.

Like LW amulets here are a bitch because there's no good counterplay if you're not rune.

Weapons are awful in HS partially because of the value incarnate, partially because there are really only 2 cards to work against them and both are 100% dead in every other matchup.
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>>163347529
Thats good news, a lot of free vials for you.

Better than getting shitty legendaries for the crafts you like
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>get the shittiest dailies for 20 gold each
>try to win as shadowcraft with my shitty deck
>lose for 2 hours
>finally win
>it's against another shadow
nice game faggots
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Do people just close their app when they see a 500 year old vampire loli?
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>>163347730
>cant win with shadowcancer
Its only bad against haven, git gud
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>>163340138
I was hoping for two(2) genesis dragons. but this is pretty nice.
I'll probably pick it up, vial all the extras and use that to craft the rest of the golds i'm missing.
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>>163347730
Shouldn't have dusted all these valuable Shadow cards faggot
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Concede anyone?
Thanks.
78232
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>>163347824
You sound upset
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>>163345109
It's pirates in general. You know it's bad when people draft Pirate Warlock and fucking MAGE to push in over 5 dmg before turn 4.

It's super obnoxious aggro, but the game is all about Midrange now what with Golemshit everywhere.

It's hilarious how ass hand buffing and fucking Renoing turned out to be, and how Blizz didn't figure it out right away (I mean everyone knew Jade Golems would be the most broken shit as all the cards are cost effective after one Golem)

The only saving grace of Gadzetstan is that Noggenfogger is obnoxious as fuck and some useless cards (Aviana) can fianlly see play.

So buisiness as usual for Blizzard. Gwent's mini expansion was better, Krosmaga, the freaking Fakfu CCG (went into open beta not even a week ago) is better, this is better, Duelyst is better (last expansion has over 20 cards from 39 see play in non-meme decks), and lastly Hex is better, just not friendly to poorfags.
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>>163347730
Maybe try Take Two?
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Why is there more hearthstone discussion here than in hsg
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>>163345746
Well to be fair, Optima case Rune can push out way more spells than heaven can runes. It's a crapshot tho.
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>>163347927
How is the Gwent game? I've been meaning to play the closed beta.
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>>163347805
They can sense the curve and have nothing to deal with the turn 2 vampy.
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>>163345746
There are no 1-mana heal spells, you will always get value from your spells unlike with heals, and there are way more spells in a Rune deck.
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>Go first
>Lose

nice game faggots, in hearthstone i dont instantly lose when i go first
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I want to fuck Otohime right in front of her bodyguards, but they can't interfere because of Otohime's order since she's too addicted to the cock to remember what shame is!
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>>163347824
>Its only bad against haven
t. salty blood fag
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>>163348023
not him, but it's shit and incredibly p2w
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>>163348047
You instantly lose if you go second instead
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>>163347927
>Krosmaga
Can confirm. Literally 1000 times better than Hearthstone and its only in beta. Not even all the classes are in.
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>>163347963
All hs discussion in hs just boils down to git gud :^)
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>>163348029
>2 point heal and draw a card
>2 point heal and 2/1 body
>3 point heal 2/4 body and draw a card
>3 points of heal and reduce cooldown to all amulets
>5 point of heals and a 5/5 body
>couple all that with Elan for +?/+?

Yeah, so little value indeed.
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>>163346650
Elsword used to be a fun game. It has a anime now.
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>tfw you will never be the Princess and have a harem of loyal maids
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>>163348237
I'm more upset that I'll never be a loli.
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>>163343102
I absolutely hate secrets. I can't help but find them disgusting.
Like I'd love to have cards you can actually play or activate on your opponent's turn somehow, and I get that having that could severely affect the flow of the game depending on how it's implemented.
But the thing is, Secrets are in no way that. Secrets are just "Look! This is almost like interactivity, right? Right?" and no, it really isn't. It really isn't. It's like an insult to actual card interactivity.

Either go all the way, or don't do it at all. Don't try to be all cute with this awkward imitation that still isn't interactive at all.
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>>163348274
You could have been a shota though
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>>163347730
Dunno, I had 3 shadow dailies and did them all in like 20 minutes because shadow aggro is dumb. Stacking multiple hand puppets on a mummy is fun.
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>>163348237
B-but Seria-san! What about Seria-san!?
All her devotion and hard work, and she still isn't accepted into the Princess's loyal harem?
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>>163348191
>2 point heal and draw a card
cost 2 pp
>2 point heal and 2/1 body
2/1 is weak
>3 point heal 2/4 body and draw a card
5 pp is a big cost
>3 points of heal and reduce cooldown to all amulets
useless if you don't have cd amulets on field
>5 point of heals and a 5/5 body
7 pp for 5/5 stats is weak
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I need two more Aldiwas for my bannermemes.

Should I just bite the bullet and craft them, or wait for the expansion to hit?
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>>163347963
their general is diablo levels of dead and the battered wives can't let go of their shit game
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>>163348349
>not even Erika is chosen in
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>>163348023
Dunno about the systems, but it's quite interestign whe nyou actually get to playing it.
Since you draw very little (if I recall, without draw you would get 150 cards fro myour 25 card deck over the course of the match, 10 at start than 2 at roudn 2 and 2 at round 3)
The idea is to accumulate more value o nthe board than your enemy, but you also need to gage weather you want to go into a pising contest and risk burning yourself out, or pass early, preserving your hand for the next round, but potentially losing the round.
2 rounds won = won match. It's mostly fun, other than (surprise) Elves are pure cancer to play against.

There's more to it, but those are the basics.
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>>163348362
2 mana 3/2 living the hearthstone dream
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>>163348362
>if I just conveniently ignore the heals themselves it would make the cards useless.
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>>163348373
give up on bannermemes

it's shit now and will only get worse with RoB

unless you are sub A0, then it'll work I guess
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>>163347963
lel screw off shadowtard
i will never go back to hsg
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>>163348460
I am sub A0, just biding my time until I can afford something like control sword
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>>163348460
Bannermemes are good whereever haven is popular, which is everywhere
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>>163348410
Erika is forced to guard the door and listen at the sighs and whimpers as the princess fucks her sluts
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>>163347963
another wave of /hsg/ refugees, we need to build a wall
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How did he know I had 3 Fortes in my hand?

Does having Elana in your deck now grant you the gift of clairvoyance as well?
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concede please
86072
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Where there any reveals yesterday?
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>>163347963
Cause this general is full of /hsg/ refugees who realise their game is shit and can't put up with it anymore.
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>>163342773
>"What would it be like if each craft had a 2 PP hero power like hearthstone?"
>Elf - summon a fairy onto the board and it counts toward combos
>Sword - leader has permanent 2 attack and can hit something once, each turn.
>Rune - deals 1 damage and it procs spellboost
>Dragon - can let you draw a card for free every other turn.
>Shadow - generate 2 shadow
>Blood - can deal 2 damage to self then deal 3 damage to a target enemy leader or follower every other turn
>Haven - heal self or ally follower by 1. Targeting an amulet reduces its countdown by 1.
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>>163348550
Probably bricked and your turn 3 play revealed you as face dragon
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>get free T2 ticket
>im terrible at T2
>draft a sword deck without any floral fencers and with a bad curve
>concede my first match at turn three after i've drawn nothing i can play and he's almost filled the board
>retire at 0-1
>free pack has an animated Fafnir

cool and nice
that makes up for the frustrating T2 experience
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>>163348550
Its more likely he rq over not having removal / bad hand
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>>163348550
Emissinary duh! Everyone literally everyone know how to play around facedragon.
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>>163348606
>Haven - heal self or ally follower by 1. Targeting an amulet reduces its countdown by 1.

Are out of your fucking mind?
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>>163348550
Chances are he didnt have the means to remove your trinity dragon, assumed you'd evolve it next turn so it was completely out of his kill range and free to lazer your face, and he knew he'd be fucked.
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>>163348550
Imagine this was his hand
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>>163348569
thanks you elf
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>>163348652
>Emissinary duh!
>all 3 fortes are still 6pp
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>163348417
Elves infest more and more games with their faggotry
Remove Elf before its too late
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Who /NeverLuckyinTakeTwo/ here?

Most of T2 game, I never won more than two. My opponent always get the draw they need.
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>>163348417
>Elves are pure cancer to play against.
>Elves infest more and more games with their faggotry
Are there any games where elves are not cancer?
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>>163348767
hmmmm
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>>163348821
There are obviously runs where even masters will go poorly, but if you are consistently doing bad in T2 its your own fault.
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>>163348696
I can already tell this game doesn't want me on haven giving me a curve like this.

Serves me right for attempting to play cancer.
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>>163348606
Forest and shadow are underpowered.
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>>163348913
you can climb only with midsword and dshift
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>>163348821
May your despair become your liberation
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>>163348505
Not that anon, but what does /svg/ think of Control Sword in RoB? I'm interested in purchasing the prebuilt Sword deck and building a Control Sword deck.

Will it still be a meme because of PtP Forest and DShift?
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>>163349085
May have a hard time with all the new board clears, much more than banner or midsword
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>>163349085
Wasn't control sword one of the best decks and the best control in current meta?
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>>163348974
It already makes me sad I had to put away my control sword deck cause of PtP Elf and Dshift running rampant,

I just want to drop big dudes which do big damage to little dudes
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>>163348627
>play 1 game
>not even since you conceded t3
>call it an experience
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>>163348821
>tfw haven't gotten 5 wins in ages
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>Heaven Amulet
>2pp
>every enemy follower that gets destroyed while having less than 3hp gets banished instead
here, heaven now is somewhat good
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>>163349239
Did you just wake up from your slumber, pre-DE anon?
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>>163348821

>in a pinch
>opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand or field
>"as long as his draw isn't a card with storm I win next round"
>he draws a storm

I hate these conveniences
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>>163348627
Come back talking about frustrating T2 experience when you go 0-5 after drafting top heavy dragon without any ramps
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>playing blood
>queue into dshift
>rune uses removal every turn
>drop Bloody Mary on t5 expecting more removal
>unable to clear BM
>t6 two Blood Wolfs into Razory Claws

Am I memeing now guys?

Is there a better feeling than this? I had to take a fap break after
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>>163349171
Theres not how control blood spell
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>>163349085
The only meme in it is being the single most expensive viable deck
Like bannememes being the single cheapest viable deck
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>>163349321
B-but that's what /svg/ was sure of few weeks ago
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Is Odin the only neutral amulet removal
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>>163349191
>>163349287
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>>163349379
a good ramp dragon is the most expesnive one

like half the deck is legos
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>>163349314

How did you have 2 blood doggos and claws left going into turn 6
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>>163345746
>Rousing step is a +1/+1 for 4pp
>Elana's prayer turns every heal spell into a rousing step
Why is THIS allowed?
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>>163349451
>like half the deck is legos
Just like control sword
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>>163349275
Heaven won't be good in RoB, something needs to keep shadow low
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>>163349085
Asking this general for competitive advice is a crapshoot.
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>>163349487
Sage Commander is more broken than Elana.
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>>163349487
Because haven cant board flood as well
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>>163349474
Reach options are saved for last whenever possible.

You only play them earlier if you have no decent on curve options.
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>>163349227
why do you keep a record?
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>>163349314
>play nothing
>start burning cards
>keep passing my turn
>cow tits does her thing
>turn 8 azazel
>turn 9 mary double claw

Two can play solitaire
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>>163349381
One issue with CSword is lacking of lategame power, basically no wincon. Meanwhile, Control Blood would rekt Dshift or PtP if their hand is brick.
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>>163349564
Cynthia is better in every way.
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>>163349570
>Amulets pop at the start of turn
>Hence you can't answer them before they get buffed to oblivion
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>>163349564
lol
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>>163349545
Why are you so upset though?
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>>163349586
To know which classes I do best on, and to know what I need to improve on. For example, I've noticed that I have an abysmal win rate against shadow.

Also autism.
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Someone take a picture of a bomber and put Rose Queen in it and thorn burst as the bombs
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>>163349635
>>163349650
>rousing step 4pp
>sage commander 4/6 + rousing step for 6pp
>sage commander is a 4/6 for 2
nice balance shadowbabs
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>>163349564
Elana is a shitty amulet which shitters rely on (^:
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>>163349545
>something needs to keep shadow low
>not sword
>not forest
>but shadow
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>>163349732
I'm upset about shadow, thousands of them will flood ladder with RoB xpac. None should deal with their last words
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>Climb ranked for a day
>do dailies the next day and drop down to the same amount of points i had yesterday
Epic FUCKING game shadowtards
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How do I gitgud? I can only play with sword almost shitting myself and Id like to learn how to play with shadow
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Perfect girls don't exi-
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>It's the "PtP Elf don't have their other 2 PtPs after their first one got Odin'ed" episode.
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>>163350129
I want to strangle Erika!
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>>163349545
anon you seem a bit upset at shadow, how come?
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>>163350094
>play on curve
>be mindful of lethal range aka phantomhowl+mimi/coco
>don't get banished
>>
>Play hearthstone
>Shaman is the most braindead and powerful class

>Play shadowverse
>Sword is the most braindead and powerful class

nice game shadowtards
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>>163350094
just get into gambling because it amounts to the same
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>>163350129
Erika is for the princess only
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>>163350131
>it's a d-rank vampy faggot blogging again episode
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>>163350225
Sword is honest deck
See Bullshit class[2](forest)
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>>163349978
Why would they when sword, blood and rune got much much better cards overall.
Are you one of those people who thinks Balor is actually good?
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>>163350225
explain this meme to me. I'm playing midrange sword and elana rapes my asshole in shitter rank a2.
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Neutralcraft decknet when?
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>>163348627
Never give up
And if you have a bad curve you are the only one to blame drafting without looking how it's your curve going
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>>163350225
Remove elf
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>>163350374
This post is the reason why I hate shadow main so much.
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>>163350308
Princess won't be able to "fill" all her needs.
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>>163349404
Only banish, yes.
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>>163350482
she doesn't have those needs

she's a lesbian remember
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>>163350482
>implying
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>>163349404
>execution
>bahamut
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>>163350314
I'm on the cancer-filled A0
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>>163350526
lesbianism isn't real
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>Play Star Crusade
>Everyone has three hero powers they gain one mana for every time they go face
>aggro decks literally spam them
Why
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>>163350094
Stack puppets on ghosts or mummies, go face.
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>>163350526
homosexuality is a mental illness
>>
37933

concede plz
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>>163350073
>tfw the moment i stopped caring of the ranking and wanted to sandbagging until i had more decks i couldn't stop climbing
I should just concede i guess
>>
When did this thread become online card games general
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>>163340420
Conflagration is story card. Haven has no Cudgel either for that reason.
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>>163350562
he probably meant banishment
also bahamut isnt out yet
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>>163350590
Erika isn't real either
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Reminder that Havencraft is BALANCED
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>60 points away from trials
>welp, time for another loss streak
>vs a dshift that completely bricks
>feel bad but it can't be helped, kill them quickly then clear trials first try

Man what a fucking grind, really enjoyable though. Now time to suffer through AA, should reach masters in a few hundred-thousand games.
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>>163339945
Best girl and best edition.
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>>163350774
sure is
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>>163350774
Small time
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>>163350774
Waow a 10 match win streak and you hid your rank, how impressive
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>>163350693
Well, every other card game is ded. Including hs that became even more of a cancer.
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>>163350774
post rank
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>>163350876
n-no
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>>163350843
dirty roach
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>>163350465
Making yourself look bad by losing to a weak class?
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>>163350383
Elana is supposed to beat you.
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Are all Vampy players batshit insane?
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>>163350843
I could roll my face all over the keyboard and get a winstreak with PtP in A1
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>>163350843
delet elf
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>>163350129
There are perfect girls in this game
Cynthia, Forte, Liza, Eris, Arisa
But Erika isn't one of them sorry
>>
anyone else not able to open images or just my shitty internet?
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>>163350843
>tfw i got lv100 Haven before A0
>never did T2 with Haven
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>>163351007
LIVING ON THE EDGE
>>
How do I control blood?
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>6 cost 2/2 storm
Kinda useless, unless you meme with conjuring dim shift instead of snowmen
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>>163350774
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>>163350843
>>163351019
FUCKING HOW
ALL I DO IS LOSE WITH THIS SHIT
EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET ME AND I GET SHITTY DRAWS EVERY FUCKING GAME
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>>163351019
>PtP

lmao

>i-i could d-do it t-too easy

LMAO
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Remilia if you're here I'm sorry
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How different would the game be if legends were limited to 1 and golds were limited to 2 copies?
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>>163351328
just b urself
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You know what pisses me off about this place and /r/Shadowverse?
The autism.

You simply cannot discuss decks below 50% winrate on tracker sites, or any cards that aren't in those.
Post a deck with something new? Autists will tell you to sack the novelty and follow the netdeck they found.
Where is the creativity? Where is the fun of deckbuilding?

Are you autists just planning to not play Ranked for the first week?
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>>163351418
A lot more banners.
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>>163350968
Is there any limit to how cute and perfect Luna can possibly be?
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>>163351318
Bruh, you're never gonna cast it for 6.
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>>163351328
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>>163351418
The prebuilds would come with a total of 8 golds instead and cost 1000 crystals.
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>it's a "never draw a single royal banner even after playing maid leader" episode
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>>163351318
>>163351521

what is this?
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>>163351467
>and /r/Shadowverse?
You need to go back
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>>163351328
It was tempo not PtP, either way I switched to PtP in A3 because I felt like it had a better matchup against all the Elana I kept facing.
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>>163351328

>Playing coin-flip simulator: the deck

U win some u lose some ;)
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>>163351550
try not drawing either maid or banner, or even floral for that matter

banner sucks
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>>163351467

Card games, or at least this one, is all about statistics. You wanna win? you use the deck that is winning more at the moment. Simple as that.
Vast majoirty of people just want to win, they don't give a shit about deckbuilding.
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>>163351418
>Roach, silver bolt, dim shift, levi, purg/altered, elana,
Same thing
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>>163351550
>having other commander besides banner
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So, how does prebuilt decks work anyway?

I mean, they said they have all these special art of legendaries but like, how do they work? If you put together a prebuilt deck, your legendary will use that art instead?

As much as it is appealing, I dont think its a good idea to just tell everyone just exactly which cards are you playing if its like that
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FUCK
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Any ramp mains ITT?

What should I change/add?

got enough vials to craft one lego
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>>163351664
I think you can just pick either, like animated cards.
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Banner isn't that strong unless you're playing against it with a single-player meme deck with no board presence
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>>163350774
>lvl 74
dont even have to mention his rank
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>>163351717
Well, if its like that, then thats nice

I would rather use the updated Ancient Elf art among others
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>>163351467
It's all really easy for me: If you're trying to climb, play decks that have been proven to be effective, either by yourself or by others. If not, then just do whatever.
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>>163351584
6pp 2/2 Storm rune follower that costs -1 per spellboost
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>>163351616
Dunno I won plenty of matches with just Oathles>Aesthethic and hitting face for 5 turns but that's against haven in full "must play 3 Arias in a row, surely I'll be able to outspeed him after they all crack" mode.
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>>163351550
>It's an Avant Blader episode
>>
Mistakes were made
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Somebody explain prebuilt decks here

Do you just spend the amount of vials and get the deck and special legendary art?
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>>163351467
I am new, i am just collecting cards, score rewards and waiting for RoB while playing cheap working decks
I want to play a Forest deck with Cynthia, Selwyn and even Acient Forest Dragon in it and will probably sucks because it will be too slow
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>>163351731
Banner isn't some super deck but it's not as weak as you people are saying either, like goddamn.
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Post fun things
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Somebody explain prebuilt decks here

Do you just spend the money and get vials plus a single alternate art legendary?
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>>163351897
No, you pay for the deck with crystals. Catch-up mechanism for new players, or money bait for collectors and autists.
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>>163351680
I think ramp uses wyvern cavaliers instead of dragonguards and generally fafnirs
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>tfw only have 200 coins right now because I haven't been able to play in a couple weeks
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>>163351742
Not him but I cycle 3 decks and am lv70 in each and AA1.
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>>163351953
ah, a classic blunder, playing ghosts into Robin Hood!
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>>163351984
Huh, I guess thats a reason to save up on these 300 crystals from the deal

Would have to see the price though
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>>163351981
pretty much
it's decent value for the vials, especially if you need the legendaries
500 are otherwise only 10 pulls if you do one a day
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I just dont get it, can someone explain prebuilt decks to me
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>>163351902
I can sort of understand Forest Dragon, but Selwyn is just so underwhelming as far as effects go. The new card might be good though, since you get to summon him for free.
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>>163351981
Holy shit, are you me? >>163351897
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Urias has the best emotes
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>>163351902
Control Elf may become a thing after RoB
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prebuild decks?
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How do I prebuild a meme
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>>163352096
Pay2win except not.
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prebuilt?
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>>163352153
You don't have to, that's the point
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>>163352091
translate it weebs
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>>163352091
WEEBS
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>>163352114
Selwyn isn't that bad
Atleast in T2 can be annoying as fuck
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What about postbuilt deck?
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Did they ever say whats the price of the prebuilt decks?

Man, looking at it, they sure are not terribly optimal but are pretty good value nonetheless purely for the legendaries you get which can be used in other decks
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>tfw play 4 lunas in a row in tt
>tfw lost half of them
when did she get so strong?
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>>163352189
>>163352198
3PP Rune Spell
Destroy a 3PP or less follower. Enhance (5): Literally Execution.
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What is a prebuilt? A miserable little pile of paper.
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>>163352304
Shadow is actually pretty good by itself, its just that the Elanas and Seraphs running around limits its effectiveness

Otherwise, its a nightmare to fight Shadow if you are like Sword or something
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Aren't those cards already translated by weebs?
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>>163352318

Ah yes, removal, just what Rune was lacking

Another quality card from Cygames
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We really should just put the price of prebuilt deck in OP. It's been asked like 50 times already.
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>>163352435
Not like anyone would read the OP anyway.
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>>163352435
sir please how much does the prebuilt deck cost?
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>>163352435
OP is a faggot tho
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>>163352318

> Literally Execution

Can it destroy amulets as well?
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>>163352515
Do you not know what "Literally Execution" mean? Of course it does.
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>>163352387
yeah I was sword. I'm used to rolling over everyone, Luna go home!
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>Don't hurt me!
>Just makes me want to hurt her

Anyone else know this feel?
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>>163352564
I don't know that feel because i'm not a dubcuck
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>Buy 3 of these shits
>Literally tier 1 deck that stomps almost everyone
Huh, Duel Monstertards?
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>>163352552

seeing as how the word "literally" has lost all meaning on this shitty website I had to double check
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>>163352593
Remove weeb
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>>163352515
Hence litterally
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>>163352594
It's funny 'cos it's true!
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>>163352515
So he literally meant literally?
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>>163352304
They have a lot of last words, bane, and sticky followers which are hard to deal with in take 2.

They're getting even more annoying cards in RoB so they're going to be bullshit to deal with in arena. Only bad new card that can ruin their drafts is Nephtits.
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But what is the Blood alt art legendary?
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New poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11916296
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>>163352650
Last word.dek feat. neptits is gonna be a fun gimmick.
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>>163352703
>new
>Asked 2 days ago
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>>163352701

beast dominator of course
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>>163352615
I'll remove you.
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>>163352304
Luna was literally cancer before her only bad matchup got popular
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>>163352701
queen vampire
screencap this now
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>>163352743
it's new compare to "biggest slut" poll
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>>163352779
Kinda sad the current cancer has no real counters.
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>>163352810
This is my bet as well. I think Bloody Mary is more iconic but Queen Vampire is easier to design an alternate card for.
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>>163352304
If it wasn't for Haven being popular so many people would be crying about Shadow.
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Queen Vampire. They dont do DE alt art so no Bloody Mary for you
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what i am missing?
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>flame and glass
>have to do fucking set-up magiks just to get a glorified ptp
>that can be destroyed by any removal
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If y'all are gonna post the leaks, at least give the accompanying descriptions from last thread.

"Date Masamune"
Gold Dragon
2pp 2/2
Enhance 7: +3/3 rush/bane

"Angel of the Word"
Bronze Neutral Cost
3pp 2/2
FF: deal 1 damage to the enemy leader or an enemy follower.


"Fairy Knight"
Bronze Elf
4pp 3/2
Rush
Fanfare: Add a "Fairy" to your hand.


"Sword to tree"
Silver Elf Spell
3pp
Destroy an opponent's follower that costs 2 or less. If you play 2 cards or more destroy an opponent's follower that costs 5 or less or an amulet.

"Sword whip maid"
Bronze Sword (Officer?)
6pp 5/6
Fanfare If there is a commander / card in your place, it deals 1 damage to all opponent's followers.


"Ninja Arts"
Bronze Royal Spell
3pp
Deal four damage to one opponent's follower.
Enhanced 8; then, "ninja master" on the field.


"Blade magician"
Bronze Witch
6pp 2/2
Storm
Spellboost: costs 1 less

"Demonic technique"
Bronze Spell Witch
3pp
Destroy one opponent's follower with cost 3 or less.
Enhance 5; Destroy one opponent's follower or one opponent's amulet, not followers with cost 3 or less.


"Wiley Wyvern"
Bronze Dragon
5pp 5/4
last word: Add a blazing breath to your hand

"Satan who is proud"
Bronze Vampire
6pp 3/7
ability:
At the end of your turn, give 2 damage to your leader and +2 the attack power of this follower.


"Seoul Collector"
Bronze Bishop
7pp 4/3
Fanfare Put a Death Sentence on the field.
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>>163352387
>its a nightmare to fight Shadow if you are like Sword or something
This is not true for either constructed or arena.
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>>163353020
>what is dshift?
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Need a concede.

77651
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>Shadowfag pulls the plug after I kill him with Forte into Forte
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>>163353047
Masamune is two times worse than Grea. What the fuck they are thinking?
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>>163353086
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>163352906
Every deck has a counter matchup, dunno what you're implying man
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>>163353047
>Ramp dragon's death knell.
Well it was fun guys.
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>>163353112
Dragon is too strong in arena, thus they have to get such cards
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>>163351550
>his banner deck runs commanders that arent banner

all on you
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>>163352703
>no Urias option
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>>163353047
>'Satan who is proud'
>'Seoul Collector'
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>>163353086
Spellboost for 1? Seems pretty bad desu
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>>163353095
anyone? ;_;
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>>163352091
>>163352236
Is there a picture of the new Rune Storm follower?
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>Destroyed his Phoenix Roost
>He put down another
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>163353095
>>163353280
Remove knife ear
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>>163353112
That a 2 drop that becomes a 5/5 with bane and rush is worth 7. As far as arena cards go it's actually pretty nice.
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>>163353061
A strictly worse version of regular dshift
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>>163353196
Forte takes dragon dick and other...idk, so he's out of his league
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>>163353307
THE LEGEND
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>>163353196
I'm not into bara so I didn't include it. Maybe if there was a sissy leader.
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>tfw lost to an Haven because Hare of Illusion
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>>163353406
dumb dorkposter
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>Dragon
>5/5 rush bane

>Sword
>3/8 rush bane knuckles effect

thanks cygames, sword really needed it
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>>163353372
If you know that then don't complain when you want to use flame and glass.
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>>163353095

you motherfucker
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>>163351418
That'd just be an excuse to make legendaries even more blatantly overpowered than they actually are.
Currently, they aren't even that bad. It's relatively balanced. Half the legendaries don't even warrant plays. And rather than sheer power, the biggest common factor is really half of them are late game plays and thus powerful on virtue of being late game plays.
Otherwise there are plenty of cards that can compete. Just see Tia/Cynthia/Wind God.
Soul Dealer versus Urd or whatever, or anything for that matter.

Sure they'll always make great cards that are hard to get in order to entice people to purchase packs. But to acknowledge it and to openly push the design shamelessly is just uncouth.
Just keep legendaries to a reasonable degree of balanced, or at the very least enough as to not cause an uproar. And things should be good.
Going full "Legendaries are just so naturally unfair and unbalanced that we're going to limit your deck building options related to them!" is just pretty dirty overall.
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>>163353494
>Dragon
>5/5 rush bane
none will ever put it in any deck anyway
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>>163353307
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Has anyone tried to make a PTP Disco Dragon list? How do you think a deck like that could fare with the new cards that are being added?
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>>163353342
I really don't think 5/5 rush+bane is worth 7PP. Eyfa is overall a much better card. At 3PP she's a Trinity Dragon with 1 less defense and at 7 PP she's 4/3 storm that can't be attacked. Eyfa can win you games with storm while this card can't.
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>Tickets Held: 9
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>>163353576
>PTP Disco Dragon
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>>163353576
Decks out turn after activating ptp
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>>163353494
That sword card isn't even good.
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>>163353575
Who is this fluid druid?
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>>163353598
>Eyfa can win you games
No, since it's worse forte, you wouldn't hinder yourself by putting her in Dorks place
>>
Adding a note on pre-built decks to the pastebin in the OP that some people probably read once in a while. Does this sound informative? Do I have the pricing structure right - 500 for your first deck and 700 for everyone after that, or is it 500 for the first purchase for each class and then 700 for the next two?

>Pre-built decks: A catch-up mechanism for new players or people looking to fill out their collections. These can only be purchased with cash but guarantee a serviceable starter deck and a few core gold and legendary-quality cards for the class. As an added incentive, one of the class legendaries in each deck will have alternate art, giving it a different look had you opened it in a pack or crafted it normally. You can purchase a class's pre-built deck three times for three copies of the gold and legendaries if you want, and you're free to liquefy the extras as usual. The lists on their own should be just fine in lower ranks if you're looking for a way to complete dailies while you build your collection through Take Two and rupees. The price for pre-builts are 500 crystals for your first deck, and 700 crystals every purchase after that.
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>>163353639
Play them all, don't be a pussy
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>>163353639
I still haven't dared to touch arena. I am just afraid I will lose all my matches, such a waste.
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>>163353576
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>>163353047
Haven's card might work in a pure Seraph deck.
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>>163353307
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>>163353494
Sword isn't gonna run it.
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>>163353639
Its a free pack dont be a pussy.
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>>163353816
Can't protect anyone
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>163353818
How much does it cost? It may be useful against Elana since it can survive a few trades and doesn't die to <3 toughness kill spells immediately.
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>>163353724
Basically for veteran players, its 500 crystals for tons of dust and a special legendary card isnt it? I suppose its a nice deal
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>>163353307
>3pp satan
what a madman

that made me thinking
>1 turn pass
>2th turn ramp
>3th turn anything 4pp worth
>4th turn Roost
>5th turn Roost
>6th turn Satan+spellbook decription
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>>163353948
8
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>>163353948
>[
dude, it costs 8 mana, you gonna have a Seraph on a table already
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>>163353980
Okay, then it's unplayable outside of control.
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>>163353948
Fangblade it's hot garbage dont overthink it
>>
animu catgirls when
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>>163353742
So does this actually work? Looks fun enough to give it a shot.
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>>163353342
Its stats are shit for a bane minion though.

Most bane minions are effective because low attack high defense allowing it to survive taking down a big guy or cheap in cost allowing it to trade upwards, yet this card is neither of those.
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>>163353972
Someone tried to meme on me like that in unranked.

I still won because roost made dshift cheap.
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>>163353972
Have fun trying to live 2 turns with Roost on board
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>It's Storm haven and Tempo Elf with perfect curves hour
Time to stop playing Dragon today i guess, 4 lose streak are enough
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>>163354094
If you do, please dont use altered fate with Dracomancer Rites unless you love suicide
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Somebody explain to me why Neptits is supposed to be good.
Because I'm really, REALLY not seeing it.
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>>163354070
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>>163354070
>>
https://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152392549354261783/

Watch out my dudes, there are FAKE players on the ladder drawing the same curve every game and they're out to make sure you can't climb
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>>163354191
Because it's not good
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>>163354196
Thats not an animu catgirl. Thats just a cat
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>>163354191
Nep is a good meme
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>>163353720
Eyfa ain't great, but she could have a place in face. Sure at base she's a worse trinity dragon, but fact of the matter is can't be attacked means that most any removal thay would be used to kill her would also kill trinity dragon. Really only may and barrage take her out but not trinity. However, as she's an enhance, it means that you can have her as a turn 7 play at near forte strength, but without having anything fighting fortes for tutoring with emissary. And habing extra storms is actually great, especially ones that can do something like run into a zombie and live.

She doesn't seem fantastic or anything, but she doesn't seem awful either.
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>>163354229
I want to get in her underbrush
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>>163354158
5th turn roost+conflagration then
Hear the dragon's roar
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when did they add DE cards to draft? on release?
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>>163354240
dumb steamuser
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>>163354191
4 last word triggers for 8 pp.
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>>163354368
yes
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>>163354240
:thinking:
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>>163354191
>Somebody explain to me why Neptits is supposed to be good.
It's not. No one knows yet, but so far people keep talking about memes.

If she does turn out to be a meme though, it'll mean Shadow has the best meme decks, namely: Tyrant, Atomy and Neptits.
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>>163353972
>that feel when you get memed on by roost into satan on 10 into spellbook decryption and double rider next turn.
>in fucking take 2

The hardest I've ever been memed on in my life.
>>
Can someone lose to me once?

69539
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>>163354319
she competes with seabrand dragon on stats, there is tons of AoE in RoB xpac
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>>163353639
Arena is the land where memes are good and turn12 table turning can be a thing
JUST DO IT
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>>163354445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnsC2V4_0w
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>>163354445
literally what the fuck am i reading
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>>163354530
You pull seabrand with emmissary tho
>>
https://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152392549355242831/
Wow, what the fuck, man.
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>>163354597
and it's 4 face dmg for 4pp then, far better than Sheytfa 4 damage for 7
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>>163354530
Seabrand is 5pp while she is 3pp with an enhance.
Avoiding emissary while still being a strong storm is the name of the game
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Stop the steamposting
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>>163350693
Because if I make a TCG general, people are jusrt going to ignore it because it isn't HS or SW.
But by all means if you make one I'll be more than willing to chime in on Spellweaver, Duelyst, Krosmaga, Hex talk. Tho I am a F2P peasant in Hex so my experience is limited.
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What the fuck is this hand?

Give me one reason why I shouldn't concede right away.
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>Dragon
>5pp 4/4 vanilla
>Storm in overflow

>Sword
>5pp 3/5 storm baseline
>enhance: double attack and inmune to damage

thanks cygames, sword really needed it
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>>163354468
>memed by roost in tt
upload the webm and monetize that shit
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>>163354515

Sorry for who joined, my internet is shitting itself. Thanks anyway.
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>>163354831
>comparing bronze card to legendary
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>>163354827
Because the opponent might brick harder than you.
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>>163354786
>running seabrand in face
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>>163354786
This is face dragon though, you do not want to pull seabrands from emissary because they can't be used til 7pp anyways. You want to pull fortes so you can start mashing face on turn 5. Pulling anything but fortes screws up thr gameplay 100%.
It doesn't actually matter whether they cost 5 or 7, because what else are you going to do with that pp as face on turn 7? You don't exactly have 2pp direct dmg or real effective removal for anything but 4pp.
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>>163354827
Because his hand is 2 ptps, tia and cynthia
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>>163354831
>Enhance(9)
As expected from a Concedecraft player
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I dont play attention to updates. What will enhance be? pay and tap for effect?
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>>163351467
Because most of people like you who "theorycraft" cobble together decks without thinking why a netdeck is a netdeck.
Case in point, idiot fro mthe start of the thread who unironically said "Vampy is stronger than Levi because bat synergy", when you can't compare the cards.
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>>163355061
Then start playing attention
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>>163355061
ya this isnt magic son
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>>163355061
Enhance = new cost of the card if you want the bonus effect.
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>>163354827
Once i had a terrible hand like yours but the opponent had a terrible hand too, in fact we both skipped 3 turns
We started playing from turn4, shit was epic
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2 new mechanic they said
>bunch off enhance cards
>only several clash effects some class even dont have clash follower
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Keen Enchantment is pretty good in bannermemes. It's won me a few games because of additional 2 to face for my storm buddies. I even managed to buff it on a Vanguard to deliver 6 dmg to the leader since the haven player was unlucky enough not to have a banish that time.
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> carefully build, test, nurture, optimize and pour your love into your own deck
> it's fun but it does ok at best
> netdeck same-ish deck because I'm honestly not doing well at all
> it does 110% better than yours immediately
> delete old deck instantly
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>>163355245
no it's not if you want it always costs the enhance number if you get that much pp
like shadows or sigils but for the rest of the game
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>>163355378
>Keen Enchantment
i actually have 3x copies of them in my bat, facedragon, and storm heaven.
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>>163355340
So you want to every class have everything and give hero power to classes and make it be the class identity?
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>>163355381
I know that feel. I kinda miss my Pinion Prayer on my old haven build. Once I reached B0, it wasn't cutting it out anymore so I had to netdeck a banner deck.
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>>163355519

If Keen enchantment were something like +1/+0 with a card draw effect I would run 3x of it in everything.
>>
Eternal app just hit the play store.
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>>163355014
put in Demonic Strike then, you can't play Eyfa until turn 7 too if you want storm and before that it dies to all new AoE's
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>>163355381
you posted this yesterday
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>>163355680
Why do you think face doesn't already run demonic strike?
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>>163355607
Of course, running aggro decks literally screams for "need card draws", regardless its still good. i mean, i hate trade and go face is good option for me.
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>>163355767

I know. I went to sleep hoping I would wake up feeling better today but I didn't.

It sucks knowing no matter how much time I invest or knowledge I acquire on the cards and mechanics I will never be able to build a decent deck on my own.
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>>163355830
indeed, there is no place in face dragon for 3 more shitty trinity dragon and shitty Dork, what you'd remove from face dragon to put those 3 cards in?
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>finally get to play high rank Sun Haven deck for the first time in ages
>play aggro
>trash him
I feel so fucking bad holy shit, I could've had an incredibly fun game if I was playing any of my other Shadow decks, but I decided to play aggro. aaaaaaaaaa
>>
89444

Come lose here

8944

Please
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>>163356297

Thanks anon.
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>>163356175
>good guy wants to partake in removing a cancer class stereotype
>gets destroyed by braindead aggro shitter

Good Lord, that's just so ironic
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>>163356175
aggro really is the no-fun way to play
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Could someone post the version with 2 men?
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>>163353103
does that actually prevent them from getting a loss?
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>>163356601
Not unless they use the disconnect bug.
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>>163356470
I bet he then picked his Elana/Storm deck and went on murderspree of shadowlings
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>Necro got five (5) 3 mana cards this expansion
What did they mean by this?
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>>163355626
Aaaaaaaaaand it's shit. Not that I expected much.
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>>163356565
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>>163356565
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>>163356512
If I play any slower decks I'm going to get fucking trashed by every Dshift and Elana deck. Neither one is going to be fun for both parties.
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>>163356694
Not like we don't have enough 3 drops, right guys? R-right?
>>
>>163356512
Meh
Just played a 25 turns control blood versus pure elana or maybe an unlucky elana seraph
Shit was exhausting

Some aggro is welcome
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>>163356915
Vampy's so cute. I want to kiss those perfect little legs up and down.
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Please concede !

91690
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>when you're first but they have the better tempo
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Post bricks
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>>163357860
>has 2 turn play
>brick
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>>163357135

can you post your deck ?
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Premade decks when?
I get so much vial value for 500 crystals from the Forest one
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>>163357860
>>163357062
>>
>>163357860
>wah where's my quickblader to hit them for 1
>>
If you lose acess from the steam and mobile all your data is lose
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>>163357927
>turn 2 play is a 1/1 tutoring a card he already has
>rest off hand is garbage

That's about as bricked as banner gets.
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>>163357979
The aggro or the slower one I was talking about - midrange?
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New thread
>>163358091
>>163358091
>>163358091
>>163358091
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>play earth
>Tech in shadow witch
>petrify elana and then shadow witch another
>they quit because they think I run 3x of each
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>>163357860
every time I try to play dragon I get no aoe against zerg decks and no ramp against slow decks

reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>163358109

Both I guess, I'm trying to make a shadowcraft deck
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>>163357860
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>playing ramp dragon versus face dragon going first
>play my forte on overflow before he can play his emissaried forte on 5.

I would have lost the next turn anyways if I didn't topdeck a second forte.
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Just played versus someone at 12k masters using dark elves and elven bards, anyone knows what decklist he's using or is he trying to home brew some shit?
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>>163357860
still won
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>>163359151
https://twitter.com/LivetubeSTAR/status/811450461450473472
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>>163359241
That was almost certainly the list, thank you, anon.
Not 100% anymore for sure, though :^)
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