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Alicesoft/Rance General #560
Last thread: >>163092312

Rance 5D and VI in less than two days Edition

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8EkUMikP
Previous Version of FAQ: http://pastebin.com/SEA97RAu
Read the FAQ before you ask questions.

>Useful Links (More in pastebin)
Wiki: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/AliceSoftWiki:Main_Page
Alicesoft Image Booru: http://haniho.booru.org/
Rance Game Translation Chart:
http://haniho.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2536
Rance World Notes (Translated): https://mega.nz/#!nRESUJYZ!ZqoypfshkozVBFpeFGI3Oi5xBtU22SjnrnfjIo2SUGY

Check pastebin for FAQs, downloads and General Hints

>Upcoming Games

Rance 5D and Rance VI (English and Decensored) - December 23 2016
Preorders open at $31.45 for bundle
http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=1004


Heartful Maman (MILF Eroge) - January 27 2017
Rance X - Announced. Delayed to 2017
Beat Game - Presumably some point in 2017
Two other games by the Evenicle and Rance 03 teams (New IPs)

>Released In Last Year (See FAQ for downloads and info)

June 2016 - Tsumamigui Extra (JAP)
January 2016 - Tsumamigui 3 (JAP)
August 2015 - Rance 03 (JAP)

>Current Events
XMAS Drawing Event - Last week of December
Little Princess to Rance 4.2 Stream


Remember to use spoilertags when discussing and posting images of plot elements, especially those of untranslated Rance games. Ignore and report any blatant shitposting, including nameshit
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>>163334064
>XMAS Drawing Event - Last week of December

So how many people will actually be up for this. I'd imagine everyone will be busy with Christmas and actually playing 5D and VI

Should a holidays edition drawfag thing be moved to January instead?
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>>163334094
Is the uncensored Shizuka cg as good as I hope?
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>>163334064
Looking forward to Nagi
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>>163334094
Was it really that troublesome to upscale it? And what exactly made you love the game?
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>>163334172
Her CGs are some of the better ones. I'll be honest, not all uncensored CGs in Rance VI are going to look great, but generally they are much, much better than you'd expect from a game that was originally released in 2004.
And for the most part the CGs for the important bits look the best. Monster Commander CG is one of the worse ones, and even that looks better than some Da Capo 3 stuff.

...Interestingly, the uncensored art of 5D looks generally better than what VI has. It's actually great at points.
Maybe Orion was hyped about being able to work on mainline Rance game alone?
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>>163334510
Orion has good taste so he probably spent extra effort on Shizuka
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Nagi is pretty cute and would be nice if she doesn't end up becoming a complete jackass if she still has her memories.
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>>163334807
She will model herself on her idol Rance
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>>163334506
There were lots of technical problems and bugs to overcome. While I was playing through the game earlier today getting screenshots for the blog, I ran into some last-minute graphic-bugs that ended up being fixed.
If the game was entirely based on 2D elements, I imagine it wouldn't have been that bad, but there's quite bit going on with the dungeons. At one point the minimap was particularly broken, going all over the screen. Here's an early screenshot, back when we were still planning whether or not to do the upscale and hadn't added any of the higher-resolution art. I'll also post finalized version for comparison.

Anyway, what I liked...
The story is great. It starts very small-scale, but steadily grows into very epic adventure. It's also not all success, there's some good downer parts that make the good bits feel all the more better. And even more so than in Sengoku, Rance feels like real idiot at points of VI, there's lots of points where he doesn't make the smart choice. I really liked being able to go NO NO NO NO at some of his shit.
The characters in general are fantastic, while there are twists, nobody acts in a way that'd feel off... if that makes sense. Save for the initial Ice Flame recruits, pretty much everybody sticks along through the story, and gets several chances to shine, both in missions that focus on them, and in main-story.

And for the gameplay goes, I'm not really big on dungeon crawlers usually. In eroge particular the playing fields feel very flat, or tend to have lots of obnoxious puzzles like teleportation. Rance VI has really good dungeons, with lots of floors within same area(and not just locked behind load screens like in Bunny Black), overlaying areas, traps that can be avoided if you pay attention and some pretty decent puzzles.
The battles aren't anything special, but that's not really a detriment, the format would work in regular oldschool JRPG. I just feel they're not highlight of the gameplay.
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>>163335309
And here's the final version.
...Looking back to original, I really can't believe I played through the game like that.
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>>163334510
So what you're saying is, the game with Rizna and Copandon as the main focus, has one of the best uncensored artwork?

Fantastic news, the only way it could be better is if Urza's scenes are also on the great side too.
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>>163335482
Hers are alright.
...the CGs are, at least. Honestly, I'm not fan of the sex-scenes where Rance is overly mean during sex, but that's just personal preference. Kaoru's, Megadeath's and Kaloria's scenes were more to my liking.

Anyway, for things that ended up looking surprisingly good, the Zeth Beauty Booklet is of particular note. The redone text along with higher resolution art pieces really did these images wonders.
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> Been bogged down with work and snow storms for the last 3+ weeks.
> It just hit me that it's really almost time.

What a wait it has been lads.

My schedule is now clear.

What time of day do downloads go live?
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>>163336147
How is Kamilla's cg?
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>>163334064
Does anyone have that screencap that Guyzoo made where it's an h-scene talking about exploding magma or something but the background image is a kitten?
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>>163336171
On the better side. La Seizel's are on the worse, which is a shame since she has more CGs.
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>>163336147
>Preferred type of man
>Refined older gentleman
Ohoho!
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>>163336326
First is good. Sad for the later but still better than her KR ones
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>>163336637
Well they pay more
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>>163336637
It's not like she loves the body
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Can't wait to pirate it!
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Literally why is X just another RPG? The final should be another strategy game. They could even make decent dungeons now with RPG gameplay.
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>>163339148
A strategy game wouldn't work.

Not enough factions
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>>163339197
It doesn't need to play exactly like the other strategy games. I'm fine if X is like Suikoden but would like some strategy elements too.
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>>163339148
> just another RPG
There's a lot of different flavors of JRPG, actually, and the series has explored quite a few, I wouldn't discount the idea off the cuff so easily.

I am interested in seeing what they do with it, but I suspect it will be in the same vein as Evenicle.
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>>163336159
Depends where you live
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any discount codes for rance or do i need to pay whole 30 dollarydoos?
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>>163339813
That is the discount price
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I've got an advance copy of Rance VI and here are some of the new names.

Carmilla
Linepenis
Daniel and Abe Nonhazardous
Cell Kirkgolf
Emily Alphone
Uruza Planet
Koopa O.Dot
Armaggedon Mega Jinnah
Cave Squirrel
Victory (Sieg was censored because Germans can buy the game)
Paper Server
Princess Leia (Rick now has a light saber)
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>>163335482
Don't forget Sill in water.
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>>163340595
The only good Sill
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>>163340673
I like the Sill that makes your favourite breakfast at 5am.
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>>163340673
Pic related and Blue Sill are good too.
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>>163340716
Sheila is a better cook
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>>163340806
Maybe, but she can't cook Rance's favourite meal.
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>>163340806
How old is Sheila in Rance IX?
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MG is up about 600 orders between the 16th and 21st. A sizable portion of that is probably Rance considering the volatility in the weekly charts these past few days, though it's hard to guess exactly what kind of fraction would be for Rance.
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>>163340584
Filthy lies!
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>>163340894
16
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>>163340894
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>>163340971
So Patton was 16/17 when she was born? That's quite the age gap.
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>>163341064
Yeah. Different mothers though.

I think Pamela was the second wife of the Emperor anyway.
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>>163340971
>Kou and Mustache are the same age
huh
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>>163335460
The new portraits look amazingly better
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>>163340971
>Rocky is only 16

Huh.
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>>163340584
I chuckled
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>>163340971
You should add the dark lords to this list, give em approximate ages based on when they turned.
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>>163342507
List would be to big given at least two are over 4000
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>>163342532
Three, Meglass, Kamilla and Kayblis.
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>>163340971
>Ai is only a teenager
>Maris is younger than Rick
>Natori is only 30
>Choushin is all of 26
>Pulptenks is 21
>Rance's maid whose name I can't remember is younger than Rance is
>Bird is older than Rance
>Katsuie is almost ten years older than Rance
>Minerva was probably already in puberty when Rance was still a fetus
>Kou and Mill are the same age as Kazemaru
>Suzume was only 19
>iron hymen is the same age as Kapalla, the Rance 1 shop girl, and Megadeth
>Lia is the same age as Sill, who are both the same age as Pulptenks, who are both the same age as Chizuko, Nagi, and Senhime??
>Gandhi is almost 50 yet shredded as fuck and has more stamina than Rance
damn, this is weird
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>>163342849
Why is Maris being younger than Rick weird?
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>>163342849
>Pulptenks is 21
Got to remember that Pulptenks was 16 in Rance 01.

>iron hymen is the same age as Kapalla, the Rance 1 shop girl, and Megadeth
Again Amitos only appears as an 18 year old while Patty is 13 in Rance 01
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>>163342883
I always saw her like an onee-san type character and the "older" one in that not-relationship. Especially because Rick is the one pining for her if I remember right.
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>>163342934
>Again Amitos only appears as an 18 year old while Patty is 13 in Rance 01
Ah yeah this is a good point, I didn't think of that.

Also I just realized why Kou looks so much younger than Kazemaru: The artstyle deliberately made Kaz look older. Kou did still look younger in SR but the art on that chart is from Rance Quest which made her a complete moeblob in terms of art, so that exacerbates the perceived age difference. Same goes for Mill.
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>>163342974
Probably because Rick is a sword fighting savant
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>>163342849
>Pulptenks is 21
By Rance IX, in the games where she appeared she was 16-17.
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>>163340904
So has Rance gotten 4 figures yet?
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>>163336326
Continuing a proud tradition
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>>163344739
Starting now.

Keep the thread alive
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>>163340971
So Kou is only one year younger than Tilde? Then she's getting scenes for sure.
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>>163347142
Rance fucked Mill too and she's the same age as Kou, though I guess that what really matters to Rance is the appearance not the real age.
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>>163345856
Hard to say, but I think it's extremely likely.

There have been 2147 orders in all from the beginning of the preorder period to the latest order number. If 50% of those are for Rance (which is very likely since it has stayed on top for so long), it's above 4 digits. A more concervative estimate would be 30%, which would still mean 814 copies, but I don't think that's too likely since it probably sold at least 400 in the first 72 hours.
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>>163347563
The release day will almost definitely push it above the three figures mark.

From there, it just has to be seen if it has a long shelf life like Haruka.
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> we’re working to remaster Rance VI with original assets straight from Alicesoft.


So we are getting a shitty version now?
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>>163350331
And then, there is this guy !
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Is the MG fag still around?

Has anyone said anything about getting rance 6 to 10 if 5-6 sell enough?

I wou ld preorder it right now if its the case
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>>163351035
The case with MangaGamer has always been "if something sells well, similar things will be released".
They wouldn't have picked up Maggot Baits if Euphoria didn't do well, so I'd imagine same will apply to Rance.
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>>163351035
There's no guarantee of anything but the more 5D/VI sells the higher the possibility of getting the following games yes.
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>>163351206
Well then I will buy randce and keep pirating everything else
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>>163351257
As long as you buy Rance...
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>>163351206
But euphoria was a pretty shitty game
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>>163351541
Give me games that are actual games like sengoku and I will buy them like I bought the SRPG JAST ones, release eushully games and I will preorder them even if they are 50€

I just can't pay for porn, its not a matter of money
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>>163351206
>Maggot Baits
Is just a VN or it have actual gameplay?

MG is a miracle of the universe but they should fucking have a "actual fucking game" section and a "plain VN" section and then difference by genre
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>>163347142
>>163347445
Tillday was born in Gi 1006. Mill in GI1007. Kou in GI1008.
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>>163352219
Maria go to sleep
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>>163352219
As other Clockup stuff, it's just a VN.

If they pick up more gameplay stuff, I imagine they'll seperate those, but right now gameplay is like less than 10% of the whole liblary.
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>>163352219
There will be an other section on the survey when that comes along in a few weeks. Type it in there; I will if I remember.

Said survey also lets you request three titles, so it's very important regardless.

I'm going for Daiakuji, Galzoo Island, and Rance.
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>>163353126
>Daiakuji
Good luck.
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>>163353126
I haven't played Daiakuji, but when I played Daibanchou I felt bogged down by the age of it. Would they really pick up a title that dated?
Probably voting for the last two choices, and Evenicle
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>>163340584
>Carmilla
Well I mean, that's who she's clearly based on.
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>>163340971
Rizna really shouldn't count as 50, she's been 18 for 32 years.

She's achieved what Kikuko Inoue only dreamed of
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>>163340971
Isn't Pastel like 80 years old?
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>>163353126
Daiakuji is pretty safe to assume not gonna happen short of a higher up on MG specifically requesting it even knowing it'll bomb.
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>>163340971
>Ai is younger than Kenshin
Never would've guessed
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>>163342849
The 90s Rance OVA wasn't great, but man it gave us some amazing screencaps.
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>>163342849
>Gandhi is almost 50 yet shredded as fuck
He has a 17 year old daughter, it kinda makes sense for him to be around that age.
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>>163335309
They are going all out with this release
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>>163344739
>>163347134
Completed chapter 5.

Upsilon has awaken.

Will complete the game in tomorrows stream starting at the same time.
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>>163353978
Yeah and you notice the ages don't go that far
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>>163356182
Just beat this fucker and didn't get kikkawa scene. Anybody knows what the fuck?
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>>163356924
Did you have her before beating him?
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>>163356924
You have to catch Kikkawa and talk to her before beating Mouri.
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I don't really understand which levelup skills are good in SR.
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>>163354192
>>163353443
Since they aren't going to upscale future Rance games, it's probably a lost cause, yeah.

I think Evenicle is a shoe-in by default, so I'm going for Rance, Galzoo, and Blade Briders (because /m/)
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>>163358676
>I don't really understand which levelup skills are good in SR.
It depends on the unit's type.
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>>163355937

Indeed
>>163333437
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Since no one figured out a working CE table for Quest, does anyone know what that Japanese language program was that let's you edit stuff? I think it was a 3 letter name thing.
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>>163359629
Pretty sure people cheated in Quest just fine. No idea which program they used.
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Is henderopa a real food? I've never heard of it before.
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>>163360736
No.
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>>163358676
How do you mean? Like the skills you get on affection boost?

You can't go wrong with initial guard up on footsoldiers, and most of the unique skills (Whirlwind shot, accurate shots etc.) are must haves
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>watch DK end of KR on youtube
>get DK end
>My Glorious Days plays instead of Desperate Struggle
why
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>>163361240
Because it is the best end
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>>163361240
Good.
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how many people are going to be drawing?
how many people are going to post requests?
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>>163361609
>>163361295
not when rance is only going to live for 1020 years; satella could still end up being raped by Kay-chan
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>>163354192
>knowing it'll bomb
Why?
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>>163361651
Not sure

>>163361873
That is really nice. Where you find it?
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>>163361781
It's extremely dated and doesn't have a potential franchise to recoup low expectations. Daiakuji would be purely a "for the fans" release.
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>>163361651
Rance family Christmas - Rance, Pastel, Feliss, Reset and Dark Rance
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>>163361781
It's too old
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>>163361979
>Where you find it?
Twitter.
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>>163362146
>>163362235
You think age really matters that much to people?
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>>163362840
Yeah it does
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>>163362840
To most, certainly. Of course not the age per see, but the consequences of that. Art very below standards for today, likely the same for the ero scene dialogues. A gameplay also very dated if compared with banchou or sengoku.
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>>163362840
A lot of people complain about shit not being HD.
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>>163362840
Yes a lot; there's a saying "strike while the iron is hot" that is very relevant here.

furthermore the guys who coded the game may not even be around anymore, nor it's assets (surprisingly more common than you think). I guess that's a moot point since SLC is a magician but still they couldn't really do a resolution update without shit looking grainy. The older a game gets, the smaller it's potential audience becomes and the larger the potential problems become.
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>>163335460
Awesome.
Good luck on the sales.
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Stop asking for torrents piratefags, if your going to be a poorfag keep it out of the thread and find it on your own.
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>>163366135
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>>163366264
Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>163366615

Somewhere where people shouldnt be so retarded they cant find things on their own.
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>>163366728
Right, and where do you see people asking for torrents?
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>>163366797

Happened 3 or 4 times in the last thread and it will only get worse in the next few days.
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>>163366918
Yea, and these people aren't about to listen to some random fuck whining about it, adding to the mess really isn't going to help matters.
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>>163366976

This guy is right, just report any posts any move on.
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>>163340971
So Rance is fine with having sex with Tillday but didn't even touch Kouhime who's just one year younger
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>>163367307
It's set to current year in timeline; in SR Kou was younger. In IX he specifically tries to get Kou to show up to see if she's ripened as a woman. She didn't show up though.
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>>163367307
Kou is two years younger than Tillday. Sometime during X he will probably fuck her.
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Quick question.
Are Rance vi and 5d system requirements higher than Sengoku?
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>>163368247
mangagamer has a page
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>>163368247
Obviously this release will.
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>>163368247

You should still be able to play it on any potatoe made in the last 5 years.
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>>163363597
>or it's assets (surprisingly more common than you think)

According to whoever it was that communicated with AS, they kept tons of shit that some companies throw away 6 months after release. Decensoring was never necesary, AS still had all the pre-censor CGs.
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>>163366264
>>163366728
>>163366918
The best way to make them stop is to never give them said torrents. Eventually they're realize they won't get them here.
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>>163368247
Dude it's a Japanese pc game. This could be the most unoptimized game on earth and you could still play it on a machine from like 2006.
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>>163368669
Just put it in the fucking OP because no, they won't stop asking, Shantae Half Genie hero thread was filled with people asking for torrents and this went on for weeks until the full release.
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>>163368806

Let them keep asking and just keep reporting them for shitposting. /vg/ has some pretty chill mods that actually do shit.
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>>163368584
>Decensoring was never necesary, AS still had all the pre-censor CGs.
I thought that nearly all of MG's uncensored games were done from the pre-censor CGs. They just look terrible because the artists never expected them to be seen, so they didn't but a lot of effort on the parts that would be under mosaics. Also sometimes they exaggerate certain features to allow more detail to be seen through the mosaic but it winds up looking really strange when it is taken off.
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>>163369053
>I thought that nearly all of MG's uncensored games were done from the pre-censor CGs.

My point was more that a lot of companies just throw those away.
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>>163369053

I wonder if this is true, because the uncensored sill preview picture looks pretty strange.
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>>163369147
Yeah, it happens, though considering MG is usually able to get a hold of them (only really been a handful of cases where it's been a problem as far as I can remember) I think that those are actually something most companies do tend to hold on to.
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So at what time does MG usually release their products? Are they the Analru type where when they say 23rd December they actually mean "not before 11:30 California time"?

Or do they actually release their games sometimes during the day? Or even at midnight?

I want to start downloading and playing ASAP so I need to plan my sleep schedule accordingly.
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>>163369452
I'm in California myself, I preordered Himawari and it unlocked around 7PM the day before, so you can convert that to whatever time you're in I guess.
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>>163368806
I don't get why people would want to pirate this game though.

Especially if they're fans of the Rance series you would think they would understand that if we want more localizations done we have to show there is a market for it.
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>>163369147
The majority of companies keep them (or at least the majority of companies who have had a localization). MG has a handful of titles which retain mosaics, but they are a small portion of their releases (and 2 of those where minori, where they weren't given the uncensored CGs because of minori's requirements, just "less mosaic")
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>>163369452
Usually 12 AM midnight Eastern Standard time.

So, 9 PM Thursday CA time usually.
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>>163369573
Didn't MG strip all the voices out because they didn't want to pay the licensing fees? That's why I'm not buying it.
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>>163369648
You're either a troll or an ignorant boob. Rance has never had voice acting except 03.
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>>163369648
Rance VI never had voices.

I know they did that for Koihime and Kara no Shoujo, but I don't think they've done it since.

>>163369573
Pirates are a constant and some will pirate no matter what.
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>>163369573
I bought it, but there are easily tons of reasons why you would pirate it

>you are still salty about being lied to by the translators, especially Maria
>you are salty about the delays, we literally would have had the game over a year ago without MG
>you are salty about MG in general and dont want VNs to be commercialized in the West
>you are the kind of person who only wants to support the creators, hence you refuse to buy from anything but the Alice Soft store
>you are poor as fuck and/or live in a third world shithole and cant afford it
>you simply dont give a fuck and are a selfish piece of shit who never spends money if he doesn't have to

I have heard all of these from different people before, so take your pick.
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>>163369771
>>163369774
Then why does VNDB have voice actors listed for many of the characters?
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>>163369573
Some people just always pirate no matter what.
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>>163369957
Those were for Rance 03
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>>163369053
This is why i think this "uncensor" practice is pretty retarded. Those CG's were meant to be viewed with the mosaic filter after all,might as well draw all over the CG with a marker
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>>163369539
So 12PM JST then.

Sweet I get to play some on 22nd.
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>>163369957

Because they're idiots and it's not referring to VI
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>>163368669

This is the right idea, there is no way to stop piratefags from being retarded. Just completely ignore them like the frogposters.
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>>163369902
>you are the kind of person who only wants to support the creators, hence you refuse to buy from anything but the Alice Soft store

These people are the worst. If you want to buy it from the Alice Soft store then read it in Japanese. If MG is providing you with a service that you require to play the game, then why in the fuck should you object to giving them a cut of what you spend? It's not as if they don't give the lion's share of the money right back to Alicesoft anyway.
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hell, i wont be able to buy it until the next year
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>>163369902
>you are salty about MG in general and dont want VNs to be commercialized in the West
>you are the kind of person who only wants to support the creators, hence you refuse to buy from anything but the Alice Soft store
>you simply dont give a fuck and are a selfish piece of shit who never spends money if he doesn't have to

These are the same thing. MG paid money to AS localize these titles, not buying it is directly saying to AS we don't want it.
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>>163369902
>live in a third world shithole and cant afford it
This is me.
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>>163371341

Anon I know we like to joke, but the reality is the US is a far better place than gigantic chunks of the world.
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>>163371418
USA is not the only piece of land in the world anon.
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>>163371418
Can you not start that shit here.
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>>163369902
>>you are salty about MG in general and dont want VNs to be commercialized in the West

I can somewhat understand this mindset if we're talking about Sekai Projekt but MG does the best job giving us VN's.

Not even trying to shill here. JAST and Sekai are easily worse than MG.

Course MG isn't perfect but they should be the last VN company you should pirate for that reason.
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so when are we going to see actual numbers?
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>>163371341
Same here. It sucks having to pay in dollars when it is worth 3 times as much as our currency and our salaries and much much lower.
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If your going to pirate it whatever, just feels bad when people talk about posting torrent links when actual mangagamer people who worked on it are in the thread and nice enough to answer questions.
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>>163371994
MG isn't going to give actual numbers for any of their titles, the best we can do is estimate based on available information.
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This nigga on crack
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>>163371994
At the end of the year, we get to see overall rankings.

Though I doubt Rance will rank for the obvious reason of being only sold on December. Haruka being on the ranking will be a good sign at least though.
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Do you think many japs will buy the English version so they can play without mosaics and in higher resolution?
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Rance still on top of the daily chart.
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>>163373856
I don't think they are allowed to by MG's contract. Too many companies are scared of that becoming a scandal.

They will probably torrent it though.
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>>163373856
They are going to be blocked by MG, so it is at the very least non-trivial to do so (granted there would be workarounds though).
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>>163373947
It's not just the scandal possibility, they'd be in direct competition with the companies they are licensing from. Obviously they don't want that.
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>>163373642
>Though I doubt Rance will rank for the obvious reason of being only sold on December. Haruka being on the ranking will be a good sign at least though.

It should actually rank on the list, even if it won't pass Haruka and a handful of other titles yet. MG's yearly rankings are for their website only, and MG released a lot of Steam titles this year.
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This is all very interesting but can we talk about how sill will be rances one true love in X, shizuka can come close second.
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>>163374535
No.
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>>163373856
Some will, and others will pirate but the majority won't. They will most likely celebrate and pray for AS success in another market, and possibly hope for a resolution patch of their own.
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>>163342849
I read that as "iron hymen is the same as as Kamilla" for a second.
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>>163351206
>Maggot Baits
That actually the name of an eroge?
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>>163375369

Maggot baits is a 10/10 Nukige.
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>>163373856
A few may find workarounds for the IP blocking (and any other restrictions on payment), just because they either want to buy it or want more uncensored CGs from the later games. But those blocks would deter most people who would consider doing so.
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.>>163375369
It looks dope as shit. I'm excited for it.
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>>163375369
It is, and the name should clue you into what kind of porn you'll be getting.
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Sengoku Rance should have had an "Execute" option, that little shit Oda Nobuyuki rots up my jail every single run.
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>>163376490
Just kick him out. You get nothing from keeping people on jail.
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>>163376656
No
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Does Rance have Asperger's?
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>>163376490
recruit him and then kill him off
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>>163376704
Narcissistic personality disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
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>>163353978
I'm assuming he was sticking to humans.
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>>163369902
I'm in the
>Not used to having a livable salary after spending too many years in post secondary education
camp myself. I'll probably not play them at all since I don't want to spend money on them but also don't want to harm the chance of more titles coming out later.
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>>163374535
There will be a scene at the end of Rance X that will be almost the same as almost the end of the Lord of the Rings where Rance will need to drop Chaos into a volcano to beat Ludo and Sill will tell him that she can't carry Chaos, but she can carry Rance, then carry him to the heart of the volcano.
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>>163353978
75 actually
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>>163377568
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>>163376038
That sounds like necrophilia, which is quite beyond my comfort zone. Especially if it's weeks after the initial death.
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>>163377869
I don't understand what that image is supposed to mean.
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>>163377934
That's probably in there, but I think it's more guro and futa than anything.
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>>163367023
Who's that?
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>>163379836
Shizuka
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>>163379974
That's almost who I was referring to.
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>>163380159
YUKIMI was the main artist for the Rance series up to 4.2.
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>>163378112
I assume it's a "do it for Rance 01" image
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>>163378112
It's telling you that you should do it.
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>>163380708
Learn Japanese?
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>>163380448
What's she doing these days?
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>>163380887
Of course, anon!
Give up everything that you're doing right now and learn it.
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>>163381223
But I have a real job now.
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>>163381298
It's still the best advice. A few hours a night after work, anon.
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>>163381298
Pfff, learn Japanese, teach English in Japan and go fuck some JKs.
What're you doing?
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>>163381353
But after work I have another job.
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Does Merim's weapon type matter for the angel mirror? I just gave her a ninja blade.
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>>163380905
I don't think she has done anything in decades other than post fanart on Pixiv and talk random stuff on twitter. Probably retired.
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I can't wait until the swarms of posts complaining about how unbelievably shitty the combat in 5D is.
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>>163381693
I'm looking forward to someone figuring out how to make it so we can use IRC entries on livestream to play Rance 5D.
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While we are on the topic of streaming, is there something like Twitch that allows streaming lewd games?
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>>163382183
Any of them as long as you don't have many people watching and use throwaway acccounts
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>>163381385
>go fuck some JKs.
I'm definitely not interested in anyone attending junior kindergarten.
My main job entails a reasonable salary, pension and benefits.
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>>163382183

Hitbox or ustream should be okay, especially with a game with a small audience like rance.
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>>163381560
Ah well, Mama rance did lots of good for the series all the same.
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>>163381693
I can't wait until someone clears the tower and I can see what's up there since I was too lazy to bother to look it up myself.
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>>163382672
Knowing Rance, it's probably TADA's masterpiece of an artwork.
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>>163382672
It's her.
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>>163382672
The strongest is up there.
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>>163382906
...Huh. She got a CG too?
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How are you handling the pre-release hype?
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>>163384281
By surviving.
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http://blog.mangagamer.org/2016/12/01/rance-gameplay-overview/

Their Rance VI gameplay post is up
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>>163384743
>This is me IRL
You lost me
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>>163384957
>>163384743
What did he mean by this?
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>>163385043
>old dungeon crawlers like Wizardry
Fuck yeah wizardry
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30 hours to go
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>>163385146
Fuck no wizardry
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>>163385159
Christmas is saved.
Just hope it'll run on my machine
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>>163384743

neat, I wish he explained what each of the different colored orbs do but I suppose the game will probably have some kind of tutorial. Then again sengoku rance didnt really have a turorial.
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>>163385305
Any toaster released in the last 10 years can run it
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>>163385146
It doesn't play much of anything like Wizardry except in broad concepts. Basically the only real carryover is instead of resting for spells, you rest for character use.
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>>163385043
Maybe it means he can show up anywhere and people won't know its him. Alternatively, it could mean that he tells people things they want/should hear in hopes that they act in a way that's bad for them.
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>>163385305
If you have a PC that won't play it, you are really hurting, specs from the MG page.
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>>163385643
If your PC can't run it, try your phone m8.
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>>163385375
You get orbs as you play (like completing the map on this adventure) and you use the orbs to "buy" events.

Basically your reward for exploring dungeons is to progress the game, learn about characters and events while powering them up. You can hold up to 3 of each orb.
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>>163385381
>>163385643
Sometimes, games just hate Wine.
Like SR
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>>163385839
>You get orbs as you play (like completing the map on this adventure) and you use the orbs to "buy" events.
>You can hold up to 3 of each orb

Now that sounds like good gameplay
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>>163385839

Ah so one color is for leveling up, one is for continuing story, and one is for random events Or something like that. Can you re-enter a dungeon you have already completed to farm more orbs if you want to?
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>>163386083
More or less, and yeah you collect them infinitely. You'll have no shortage of orbs.
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>>163386074
Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not.
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>>163369902

>you are salty about the delays, we literally would have had the game over a year ago without MG

Yep, thats me, fuck MG
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>>163335309
This should be in the blog post
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Saw this in Rance 4 walkthrough while I was checking for something else

> Whenever Kanami if available, but out of your party, you may encounter her when entering the town. Follow Kanami for CGs. Call her that night for another CG. This event can no longer be obtained in Chapter 6.

can't seem to get it to trigger though, do I need to be doing something else besides just leaving town and coming back over and over with her out of the party?
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Page 10
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>>163384743
Why does name font look like seaweed
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>>163385247

Oh that brings back memories.
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>>163392541
Strange Journey was such a good game.
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I wonder if Rance will appreciate any of his other offspring, given time.
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How did you guys find the shortest (or longest) day of the year 2016?
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>>163393883

Rangi is a hands-off raising for him so there's that. But Reset really has made him change as a person in some aspects since now he has to be a father.

That being said, his solution for Dark Rance is tough love.
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>>163394168
It wasn't over fast enough. I have two more days of work before Rance. I'd take Friday off if it weren't a half day.
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>yfw rance 6 is shit
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>click To Exclusive web page accidentally
>get a white "Japan Only" screen

Hey, Mangagamer dev, tell your connection at Alicesoft to redirect to your Rance page instead.
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>>163395337

Thank god it's not then
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Reminder to ignore and report shitposters.
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>>163388718
Oh, looks like I needed to do the mirror event first. Assumed I could just do it at the start of the chapter.
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>>163395369
Alicesoft is still blocking non-jp ips even though they got a contract to release in the west? The fuck
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>>163388507
The blogpost is trying to sell it to those that don't know much about Rance or the game, which is not the case for /hanny/.
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>>163392541
I should play Nocturne some time. I loved Strange Journey and it was like that.

IV... was mediocre but still better than Persona 3.
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>>163396332
China is the reason they block IPs, not the west.
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Is Kanami objectively the best Rance girl?
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>>163396736
No, it's pic related.
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>>163396616
What has China done?
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>>163396736

Replace Kanami with Sill, Sill is the only one who truly loves rance.
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>>163396736
No Feliss is.
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>>163396889
What about Maria?
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>>163396882
Japanese just don't like the Chinese in general. It's almost bordering on racism.
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>>163396882
Daiteikoku portrays them like retards.
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>>163396332
Publisher is not alice in the west.
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>>163396996

IX has shown that she's almost a background character at this point
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>>163396882

Basically they were afraid the Chinese and Koreans would get pissed over their portrayal in Daiteikoku
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>>163396736
I agree.

>>163397051
It is racism. Yellow people all hate each other, but the most hated group is the Japanese because WWII. That said, any Asian nation would have done the same in their position, so I can't really hold a grudge against them even if my grandma cheered for the tsunami.
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>>163397295
I legitimately can't remember if Maria did anything in IX. Everything tech related was done by Freak anyway
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>>163397447

The chinese and koreans still have a lot of grievances with Japan because of WW2, but in Japan it's more of a forced thing. There are a lot (well not a LOT, but a non-negligible number) of nationalists in Japan who are just full on NIPPON BANZAI and refuse to believe Japan has ever done anything wrong. To add on to this is Japanese politicians who love to call attention to the koreans/chinese because it allows public attention to be diverted from their own personal scandals.

>>163397579

She's the reason Shizuka was there, and by proxy means she allows the Nagi plot to be resolved.
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>>163398391
>Japanese politicians who love to call attention to the koreans/chinese because it allows public attention to be diverted from their own personal scandals.

Its the same that why Korean/Chinese politicians cares about 70 years ago things so much.
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>>163396736
My favorite is Urza, but I think the popular opinion on here is either Lia, Kanami, Mille or Shizuka. Maris and Kamilla seem too also be very popular, though I'm not sure if Kamilla is legit popular or we just like to joke about her.
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>>163398391
While there is lots of (occasionally obnoxious) nationalism here, I think China and Korean likes to play the victim too to fish for compensation over decades old shit. On the other hand the blatant "we didn't do nothing" despite a mountain of evidence showing you did it AND already apologizing for it in the past is fucking retarded too.

frankly I wish both sides would kinda chill and reach more common ground but I guess I wouldn't understand.
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>>163398391
Japan didn't do anything wrong though, most of the accusations are just Chinese propaganda that was so successful people have accepted it as truth. There's no actual historical evidence for it.
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>>163400626

First off, our knowledge of what happened in Nanking didn't come from the Chinese, it came from the Nazi diplomat there who was appalled at what happened.

More importantly that ignores a lot of other fucked up things they did like the shit that went down during their occupation of the Philippines (which is why MacArthur is seen as a national hero to Filipinos even though he was someone insane, because he liberated their nation from Japanese rule), or the creation of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere (which was basically a way to assert Japanese cultural supremacy over the rest of asia), or Unit 571, the details of which all came from the Japanese scientists and soldiers who served in it, not the Chinese since the unit killed them all.
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>>163400626
Go be a conspiratard somewhere that isn't here.
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>>163400027
Both but second tier popularity

Also Millie isn't that popular while Satella/Suzume etc are same level as Shizuka and Kanami

Things will inevitably change soon enough now that VI and 5D are out and 1. More people get to see new characters and 2. Sizeable demigraphic shift
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>>163400513
I don't know how many times Japan can apologize. The government has formally apologized for WW2 war crimes like 15 times now, but China just loves to say it's not enough.
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>>163396889
Low level bait
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>>163401396
They apologise and then make snide comments about how it was the Americans forcing them to do it
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>>163401396
Like I said I think China just wants compensation as far as the ride will go, but the recent pushback by abe and company isn't really going to solve anything either.
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This is more /his/ or /int/ to be honest
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>>163400967
Accusing Japan of war crimes is nothing but hypocrisy though. How many hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children were slaughtered by American firebombing and destruction? What do you think China and the Soviets did with their POWs? Look at Dresden, look at Hiroshima, look at the carnage of bloodshed left in the wake of the Allied forces and say that Japan are the ones who should apologise for so-called war crimes.
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>>163402381
>I don't have a counterargument but I can still try whatabouts!!

Elsewhere, conspiratard.
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I'm going to stream in a little bit, I just need to figure out what.

>>163402381

Because war crimes only exist for the defeated. It only happens if you lose. And you better not lose. Because if you do, well, be ready to lose your head. I'm not saying that to shitpost or be an asshole, it's just that that's the sad fact of the world. It is an admission those of us who believe in the rule of law do not want to make. That might equals right. At the end of the day, those with the power to inflict physical harm are above the law. It means we are not equal under the law.

It means that the law might as well not even exist. Every day we choose not to follow our legal and moral obligation to fight for justice is another day in which the moral foundation underlying the criminalization of war crimes and crimes against humanity crumbles. Since the beginning, these laws have been dogged as being nothing more than tools with which victors humiliate and punish defeated enemies for their failure to win and, thereby, ignore the same actions perpetrated by their side. If the enforcement of these laws is not equitable, and is not expected to be, then what is preventing the commission of these crimes if victory is assured?

To be clear, this does not make us not responsible for crimes against humanity committed elsewhere. But it does send a message that you have nothing to fear as long as you keep winning.
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>>163402815
You streaming Rance VI?
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>>163402929

It's not out yet in english so no. Even if MG wanted to send me an advance copy for promotional purposes, they don't know who I am by email, I'm just another customer to them.
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So I decided what to stream. I haven't touched 02 since it came out and I never beat it, so I'm going to play that.

http://tv.40cakes.com/tvoid/

channel 4 as always
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Maria a shit
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>>163406205
She's actually OP as shit, you can clear entire dungeons just with her and a bunch of useless plebs if you put your bonuses into her support fire. Every time they attack for almost no damage it triggers her support fire and she kills everyone single-handedly.
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>>163406598
sounds like my srw support attacks, gotta love those
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>>163401427

But true, I cant think of any character that loves rance as much as Sill does.
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>>163407138
Sengoku only fan?
Lia always has.

And as of recent games so do a few others.
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How long are 4.1/4.2?

I'll probably finish IV tonight, so those will be the last ones I'll need to be ready for 5D and VI
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>>163407670

Lia only loves rance's hyperweapon, and the only time most other female characters even seem to like him is when he is having sex with them. Sill's love is pure. Disliking Sill has become a meme at this point.
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>>163407784
A few hours long. You can clear both in one day easily.
I took longer to make them work than to clear them.
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>>163407860
There's a couple of trolls in this thread who irrationally hate Sill, just ignore them.
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>>163407880
That should hopefully be easy in my case since I've always kept a small 32-bit partition I can boot into for just this sort of purpose.

Unless it also refuses to play nice with W7 or something. (Originally used XP but for some reason it was bugged with my sound card where I would hear very loud sounds at random intervals through my headphones while I was in the middle of trying to play a game which was unpleasant.)
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>>163407860
>>163408028
Glad to have you back, tgguy
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>>163408028
Sill only thinks she loves Rance because Stockholm syndrome, Maria is the only one who truly loves him.
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>>163407860
So you haven't played the post sengoku games
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I liked all the little sprite animations in IV. How come none of the other games had stuff like that?
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>>163408892
Because different era
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>>163409238
Pixel art's been making a comeback in recent years though.
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Anyone notice that Rance VI+5D release date just changed to February 3rd? What happened?
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>>163411218
Low quality bait
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>>163388718
Triggered for me after rescuing Kanami from the mirror
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>>163413271
Yeah, same thing happened to me eventually, was just confused since walkthrough said "whenever she is available"
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Does Rance actually care about SIll, or does he just consider her his property like he says?
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>>163415059
Just look at Kichikuou if you want the answer to that

Sill gets thrown in jail and Rance gets into a marriage he doesn't want just to have an army to save her with
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>>163396736

Maria best girl.
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>>163415196

If sill dies in prison he also orders the commandeer who captured her raped to death. I think its the first time hes done anything like that.
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>>163415386
4.2
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>>163415564

Never played any of the 4.x . What did he do?
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>>163411218
It's also being bundled with Sengoku.
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>>163415386
In IX he goes into a suicidal rampage and dies if Shizuka is killed

But yes. Rance does care about Sill as shown by a number of things.
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>>163415642
Gets killed by a Galmon Rights Activist, is revived by Wenlina and has the girl who killed him be gangraped.
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>>163415196

Well, sorta. He wants to get back at helman army for his defeat so he forms the army in lezalas but his overall goal is to take over the whole world. Plus if you wait too long you can lose Sill forever and the game continues.
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>>163415825
Well, yeah part of it is getting back at Helman. I doubt he'd have gone through all that trouble if Sill hadn't been imprisoned though
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Do you think the new or old sprites for Rance VI are better?
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>>163415921
It's not even out yet, ask tomorrow
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Everyone thinks the thread will surge when VI comes out, but maybe it will die because everyone will be too busy playing to post.
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How come Sill gets to learn both healing and offensive magic? Isn't that cheating?
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>>163416089
She's only level 1 at both.
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>>163416004
Old
>>163330560
New
>>>/v/361326339
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>when we get to page 9 thanks to VI
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>>163416202

they look exactly the same to me apart from the new one being less blurry and less aliasing.

I cant see how someone would prefer the old one.
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>>163415721
doesn't rance just rape her?
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>>163416323
He does that before. It's when he gets killed.
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Let's settle this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11932246
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>>163416658
Why are both II and 02 there?
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>>163416658
Maybe you should have asked a few days after VI release instead?
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>>163416089
Maris is much better at both
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>>163416658
since I haven't played all entries, I voted not to specify. I don't think it's fair of me to make an uninformed judgement.
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Does anyone know when Rance 6 is getting released, tomorrow? Is it Japan time @ midnight, that being in ~7 hours, or is it US time, or...?
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>>163417250
Read the thread
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>>163417250
Japan noon I believe
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>>163417368

Nothing in this thread, that's why I asked, but then I checked the old thread and someone posted the info.

>>163417545

Yeah, thanks. Read that in the other thread.

Btw, does anyone know what MG products appear as on credit card history?
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>>163417729
>Nothing in this thread, that's why I asked

You should be asking a doctor for eyeglasses then.
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>>163417729
Random gibberish set of codes. Doesn't even has MangaGamer's name on it, if I remembered correctly.
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>>163416824
It didn't feel right leaving a gap between 01 and 03
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>>163417729

It just appears as a transaction number, no names or anything.
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>>163369053
>They just look terrible because the artists never expected them to be seen, so they didn't but a lot of effort on the parts that would be under mosaics. Also sometimes they exaggerate certain features to allow more detail to be seen through the mosaic but it winds up looking really strange when it is taken off.

Do you have any examples of that? I would really like to see what some horrible CGs where the artist clearly didnt give a fuck because it was gonna get censored anyways.
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>>163417837

Kay, thanks.
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>>163417729
>Btw, does anyone know what MG products appear as on credit card history?

What are you worried about? That your bank sees you spending your money on porn? They don't even remotely give a fuck.
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Why do you guys even want to see disgusting genitals over a smooth titillating mosaic anyway?
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>>163418092

On the mangagamer website there is a preview picture of Uncensored Sill on the Rance page. The vaginal area looks kind of messed up in my opinion.
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>>163418185
This, genitals are fucking disgusting, I can only get erect if there's mosaics.
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>>163418092
Here's a fairly random example from my screenshot folder, this kind of thing is pretty par for the course. If you want to see some of the really ridiculous stuff go look up a Demonbane CG set or something.
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>>163418185
>>163418319
You're taking the death grip to a whole new level
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>>163418319
>>163418185
Why don't you just censor the entire image to make it even more arousing for you, retards?

Kill yourselves.
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>>163418672
Calm down senpai, they're just joking
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>>163418941
I'm not, I masturbate exclusively to Japanese eroge, I haven't seen porn without mosaics in years.
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Bedtime, stay alive.
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>>163418279
>The vaginal area looks kind of messed up in my opinion.
You must not read lots of eroge. That Sill vagOO looks fine.
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>>163385406
Spell economy was actually one of the few things I liked about Wizardry. Well, that and mapping, but honestly I doubt I could enjoy mapping now that we live in the modern world of automaps.
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>>163386074
>>163386083
>>163385839
Alright lads, let me explain to you very simply.

The orb system exists essentially to pace out non-dungeon events, so that you don't just do every available event as soon as it becomes available, you have to "earn" the events by going through the dungeons.

You'll get lots of them, and use lots, and the whole system is surprisingly intuitive when you actually play it, I assure you.
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>>163422027
Is there any sort of time constraint to some of the events? Like ones that expire if you don't do them within a certain amount of dungeons?
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>>163423107
Nope.
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>>163423107
Despite what game would have you believe at points, no. There's some things you can miss by advancing too fast, but the missions that advance the story are almost always marked as such.
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>>163423318
>>163423437
Excellent

Stuff like that always makes me nervous that I'm missing important stuff, I can relax then
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>>163423703
Some MTer in this thread a while back misses Nagi but that is pretty much impossible if you understand the language the game is in
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two weeks after completing act 3 I had an epiphany

El Quixote is named like it is because the monster nest is a made-up battle, just like the windmills. And probably, just like the windmills, everyone is in on it except the guy doing the mock-fight.
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>>163424115
That is a nice pickup
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>>163398391
What about Vietnam?
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>>163407138
Lia, Kenshin, Rizna, Sheila...
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>>163407138
Lia, Maria, Rizna, Sheila, Kenshin. I could go on and on
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>>163415721
Yeah, and then feels bad midway through, kills the rapists and consoles her.
With Ruberan he had her ruthlessly raped to death.
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>>163407860
Are you purposely ignoring the character development the girls got over the series? Sure Sill has loved Rance the longest but that's essentially her entire character, and even then there are other people who love Rance just as much as well has having their own character on top of that.
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>>163416964
Maris doesn't have a Magic skill.
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>>163426230
Not him but her single offensive spell is better than all of Sill's
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>>163426317
Yes, but it's a Divine Magic spell.
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>>163426230
But is better offensively than Sill.


Sill is actually outclassed offensively by Shizuka, Miracle etc and defensively by the AL church lot and by Maris as a magic allrounder

Its why she is redundant in 03
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>>163426397
Your point being? Through that single spell Maris has access to "offensive magic". Sure it's not a proper skill but that spell trumps all of Sill's offensive magic and Maris is clearly better at healing magic and melee combat
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>>163426398
To be fair, Sill was designed to be a starter character who gets replaced when better characters are recruited.
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18 hours until 5D/VI.
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>>163426398
Sill is a red mage, of course she's outclassed in both fields individually. Her versatility is her key aspect, not her efficiency. Though it is useless in 03.
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Why can switching a unit out during a dungeon battle sometimes just leave the slot empty. I know for a fact there were 3 units with full action flags able to take the front row position but it just decided to not draw anything
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>>163426554
Red mages usually also came with some basic melee combat ability, which Sill lacks.
The comparison isn't fair though since most magic users on the continent would only have Lv1 in one magic skill, limiting what spells they can use just as much as Sill, which would make Sill plenty useful again.
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Guy here who was an obscenely huge fan of Sengoku Rance. I really want to spend money to support the studio and hope that more games get releases in the future but I do not have a credit card. Does any alternative payment method exist through third party websites to acquire points perhaps? I saw they dont accept paypal because the site is considered 'pornographic'.
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>>163428935
I emailed MGer and they accepted paypal for points
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>>163428975
Thanks friend, I'll do the same!
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>VI shits all over Sengoku in terms of plot and characters.

What did he mean by this?
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>>163429549
That VI shits all over Sengoku in terms of plot and characters.
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>>163407860
>Lia only loves rance's hyperweapon
Right...
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>>163429549
Exactly what I said
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>>163429764
!!!!
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>>163428935
They can sell MG points via PayPal, which you can use to buy Rance.
This will require manual input from them though, so I'm not sure if you'll make it for the pre-order.
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>>163429549
Antagonists of VI are much stronger, and game having controlled structure allows it to progress more smoothly.
In practice, due to how freeform the gameplay of Sengoku is, it's story only has four points of control. The beginning, when the temple fight happens, Demon Army appearing and the ending at the bridge. Between those points the player might do anything.
I don't mean that this is a bad thing, the structure of Sengoku works fine for the kind of game it is. The plot of VI is much more solid and controlled, but in exchange it's not free-form at all.
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>>163430710
That is pretty much it. Sengoku is really broad and has a large cast but the tradeoff is that most characters have no real involvement with the actual plot. Which is really simple and straight forwars

Rance IX goes to the other extreme so is great for characters but Helman as a country isn't particularly fleshed out.

VI balances both quite well.
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>>163429549
SR isn't something you play for the story. I'm not sure I agree about characters, but unlike SR most of the returning character have important roles including the fan favorite Shizuka, arguably her best role even, so I understand why some would pick VI over SR for characters. Also just VI's general stronger characterization per character since there's less characters.
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>>163431046
VI also has strong characters like Gandhi, Alex, Patton and father and son Safety
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Rance IV stream in an hour. Final chapter
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>>163373856
American in Japan right now. Yeah, looking at sneaking past the IP-block. I still have my US payment credentials though so I've already done half the work though.
My knowledge of moonrunes just isn't sufficient to play Rance in the original language (yet)
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>>163381385
JET is a piece of shit and stalls your career pretty hard.
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>>163431046
Characterization in Sengoku really isn't that good. Like, it has many good or even great side-characters but the main heroines like Isoroku, Kenshin and Kou are pretty unimpressive.
Even with the shits, Magic is easily above Ran in terms of character.
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>>163431161
Alex barely does anything in VI.
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>>163431482
>Even with the shits, Magic is easily above Ran in terms of character.
I'm not sure agree with this. frankly, Ran might be shit but the game basically treated her as such as far the main story is concerned. Magic soaks up quite of bit of the limelight, and frankly drags down VI with her. It's like if ran route was an unavoidable canon instead of a what if.

Granted VI story is fantastic otherwise, but man I hate how much she drags it down.
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>>163431895
I wonder if /hanny/ will get Magicfags. She was popular somehow in the original VI poll.
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>>163428975
>>163429803
Thanks for the suggestion bros, I just did that. The service was extremely fast, and very friendly. Hope more Rance is to come in the future.
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>>163432554
I think we already have one. I seem to recall one guy really being into foreheads.
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>>163432554
/haniho/ and Japan just don't match anyway
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>>163431331
Starting
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>>163432554
If SR didn't help magic get popular then nothing will
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>>163433843
She was a minor character that required you to call for reinforcements 3 times, was from a previous game so they didn't know her, and she was a shitty unit.
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>want to buy Rance VI + 5D for tomorrow
>MangaGamer only accepts credit card
So piracy is my only option?
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>>163434478
>want to buy a game
>need money

Are you serious?
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>>163434478
Come on, read the thread at least a bit
>>163429803
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>>163434562
Ebin. Credit Cards are like circumcisions here: nobody has them.

>>163434594
Thanks anon, I didn't read the thread I just came here to let of steam.
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>>163432554
I like Magic's character design a lot but Sengoku and Kichikuou are the only games I played where she appears. I don't know anything about her personality and she was actually one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to playing VI.
I'm sad to hear that she plays a shitty role
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>>163434829
I wouldn't say she plays a shitty role. Some people like her, she's just not very popular here.
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TOMORROW HYPE
TOMORROW HYPE

You did buy your copy, right anon?
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>>163432554
I always liked her a lot, althought she isn1t one of my top favorites.
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>>163435818
Hopefully someone who plans to pick it up hasn't preordered it yet, if only so someone can grab an order number just before the release.
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>>163436420
I pre-ordered it.

As much as I want to support Alicesoft more, I can't spend more than my current budget, so the small difference from the pre-order discount matters for me.

This is my first time paying money for eroge. I can easily pirate it but I want to support Alicesoft, so pre-ordering it is the best I can do at the moment.
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>>163436609
You did well anon.
Bought it 3 times, and I'm not counting the physical.
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>>163436609
>This is my first time paying money for eroge. I can easily pirate it but I want to support Alicesoft
You and me both anon.
Despite never being a moral fag, it does feel weird that this is basically the first 'porn' I've paid for. I've rationalised it to myself by saying "It's Eroge, not porn!", but lets not kid ourselves here.
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>>163436609
>>163437681

It's my first time paying for eroge as well.
If you don't count Visual Novels (with patches) on Steam.
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TWELVE

HOURS
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>>163437681
>>163436609
Huh, I'm rationalising it quite easily by thinking ''If Rance doesn't become a smashing success we'll never, ever get the other Rance games translated.''
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>>163438409

That's exactly my reason too for buying it.
I desperately want the rest of the series be localized.
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I need an IX spoiler.

In the Kenshin Route of SR, Rance says that he's just one girl away from controlling the world, that girl being the top girl in Helman. Did he get this girl by the end of IX? Does Rance control the world now?
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>>163439553
Pretty much, though that's the human world. There's still the Monster Realm left.
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>>163439553
Yes, which is why X is going to be about the Monster realm
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>>163436609
This is the first time I've ever bought a game I could of easily pirated except for Mount and Blade. I went out of my way to e-mail them because I really wish Rance was a household name in the vidya universe. SR was too fucking good to merely be trivialized as a 'porn game'.
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>>163439553
He effectively controls the human world as all of the leaders of the major human countries will do pretty much anything he demands. Rance seems to forget that the Monster Realm exists though
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>>163439818
>Rance seems to forget that the Monster Realm exists though
Until he finds out about Hornet's existance.
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>>163434751
>>163434478
I had no problems buying with my visa debit card. You should at least have a debit card for paying random internet shit, no matter what country you're from.
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>>163438409
That's why I buy VNs and eroge I enjoy in general.

Though as I feel that much more strongly for Rance, I'm buying multiple copies.
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>>163439926
Pretty much, I do hope she doesn't get fucked over in X though. She was underutilized in KR and at least deserves a treatment to the same level as Sheila got especially considering she's rather instrumental to humanity being in it's current state
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>>163437380
How did you buy it 3 times?
Did you buy 2 for your friends?
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>>163440303
MG lets you rebuy anything you've already bought.

In exchange though, downloading any games that you've bought a long time ago is a bit of a hassle as you have to flip through your order history. It's not like Steam where you have a convenient library.
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>>163426923
>Why can switching a unit out during a dungeon battle sometimes just leave the slot empty. I know for a fact there were 3 units with full action flags able to take the front row position but it just decided to not draw anything
SR? I genuinely don't know. Pic related, this is probably a question for a hacker or a points runner, so hopefully the webm will help.

>>163431046
>>163431482
>Characterization in Sengoku really isn't that good.
>SR isn't something you play for the story.
It pains me to read this. I fucking loved every moment of SR.

Well, except for maybe the H-scenes, I've heard that they don't get good until IX.
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>>163440463
>It pains me to read this. I fucking loved every moment of SR.
It's not that it's bad. It's just not the strongest point like in VI.
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>>163439818
He doesn't control the Free Cities though.
And why would he care about a monster-infested shithole?
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Do we know anything about Rance's past?
Like who he lost his virginity to, why he's so addicted to sex, why he's an adventurer and what his days were like prior to meeting Sill?
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>>163441278
>Like who he lost his virginity to, why he's so addicted to sex, why he's an adventurer and what his days were like prior to meeting Sill?
Basically this, I'm not even joking.
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>>163441278
Yes, yes and yes. But we don't know his parentage

>>163441136
Copa effectively has a stranglehold on most of the free cities
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>>163441278
We do actually.

He was carried to a Free City village by a mysterious one-armed knight, grew up as a pleasant boy as a slave to the governor of the town and his two daughters. Got lost in a forest for a week but came back fine, a bit covered in blood. Became kind of a brat during puberty.

The older sister was gentle and kind and the younger one was arrogant. Younger one got curious about sex, used him as a sex toy and got penetrated by accident.

Seeing the haughty younger sister become docile due to sex and the immense pleasure he got from the act, he went on a raping spree, including the older sister. Got kicked out and met the Female Warrior. Tried to rape her too but got his ass kicked.

She then travelled with Rance and trained him to be a warrior before dying and he went to Keith, which was a friend of hers.

It's all on the wiki, if I'm not wrong.
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>>163441278
>>163441431
Yes, it's on the wiki.
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>>163427273
>Red mages usually also came with some basic melee combat ability, which Sill lacks.

She could use a sword in 02, but usually chose not to.
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>>163435818
Yes.
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>>163439553
Main heroine of IX

the new pope is his girl as well
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>>163440181
Silky will be sacrificed to protect her
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>>163441278
Someone post the Rance history infograph
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>>163441704
>Younger one got curious about sex, used him as a sex toy and got penetrated by accident.

Flashback when?
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>>163439553

Yes but Helman becomes a republic at the end of IX anyway
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>>163442361
Never
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I just want to sleep the day away until it's Friday. Why can't we skip time?
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>>163442715
Ask King Crimson
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How long are 5 and VI combined? Any replay value? These are the first real Rance games I'm playing outside of Sengoku.
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I've always wanted to experience 5D. I'm a little curious to see if the whole premise of playing cards on motorcycles holds up.
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>>163443412
5D is short. VI is 50 hours plus

Not much replay value
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>>163441704

You also forgot an important moment in his life: he originally didn't care about protection, but when a woman he knocked up aborted, it kinda traumatized him a bit.
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>>163437681
Well realistically speaking we're paying to play a videogame, not for the porn alone. If it were just porn there's no way I'd pay for it unless I found it to have conspicuous artistical value
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>>163440463
Don't look at it that way, anon. Look at it like this: if SR's characterisation is considered weak for the Rance series, you are going to be blown away by VI. It helps a lot too that VI will have a competent translation.
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>>163443412
You can 100% VI in one playthrough, but it's pretty long.

5D is short but heavily RNG-based, which will require more playthroughs to 100%
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>>163436609
yeah my first time paying for an eroge as well.

I'm hoping this will encourage them to remake Sengoku Rance and localize it as well.
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>>163444375

I want the next Rance game to publish is a bundle of 01, 02 and 03.
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>>163444375
For sure
Sengoku + Quest Magnum + IX + shizuka poster all-in-one for 29.95$
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>>163444545
Eeeh I don' think they're ever going to localize 02, for obvious reasons.
Maybe the two digests + 03? Or they'll just wait for 002
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>>163444545
Not a chance. 03 is both a full game and their newest Rance game

>>163444552
Shizuka wallscroll when?
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>>163441278
It's all on the wiki. But the most important thing about his past is that he used to be really cute as a kid.
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>>163443412
Depending on how you go about it, 5D should have an insane amount of replay value. It's compensated for being really short though.

Although, I'm a sucker for these kind of games, loving to use Reader on everything.
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>>163444793
He really likes that armor
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>>163444545
Absolutely delusional
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>>163444716
Kaikai as a package with 01
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>>163444875
Quest is older than 01 so it is more likely to be translated first
Quest is also 60%+ translated already and would make more sense with SR because we're coming from 5D and VI

Though I agree that a "package" with SR is extremely unlikely given that both are full games while 02 and 5D can't really be seen like that
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If they're going to go for it and port sengoku, and if there's any game that has a chance to be released with it, that's going to be sanbiki ga
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>>163442473
Still the president is one of his girls and at least one who joined as a politician strongly respects Rance.
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>>163444375
>Order number - 24

Did MG pull something with their order numbers?
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Hi, new to this general.
I played Sengoku and pre-ordered 5D/VI

I don't know much about the timeline and how the remakes work, so I was hoping if someone could explain this chart to me. Like what Kichikuou is and what the colors mean.

I'd look it up myself but I don't want to risk stumbling into any kind of spoilers.
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>>163445694
>>163444375
Huh? No, Rance has about 24 preorders for now.
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>>163444863
He's kidding I think.
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>>163445694

The order number has 6 digits. That anon just censored the rest of it. You can see that the 4 is cut off.
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>>163445774
Kichikuou is a non canon territory conquest game branching off from after Rance 4.2

It demonstrates a lot about the setting as it covers the whole world.

Rance VI onwards builds strongly on the setting and characters from KR
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>>163445938
I'd be be fine with Rance having over 242k pre-orders.
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>>163445774
Green means it's translated.
Orange means it's being translated.
Red means it hasn't even been released yet.
The rest are untouched.

Kichikuou Rance was a game released after 4.2 with a what-if scenario where Rance becomes king and begins World Domination. It's not canon.
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>>163445774
dark blue - not translated
green - fan translated
aquamarine - officially translated
yellow/orange - undergoing an unofficial translation
red - not released yet

As for how the remakes work and what kichikuou is, that's quite long to explain, but if you want I can sum it up for you, without spoilers
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>>163445774
Basically there's an old timeline and a new canon for the Rance series.
The old timeline is for the old games from the 90s and Kichikuou would be the 5th and final game.
The new canon is basically adapting after 4 and taking Kichikuou as a what IF while also remaking the first 4 games to adapt them to the direction the new plotline is going.
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>>163445774
Someone should fix that pic. Kichikuou was released in 1996.
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>>163446170
It is more that we found it convenient to put Rance I to IV into the KR timelines because they have elements in them that are perfectly consistent with KR but inconsistent with canon
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>>163446282
Meh, it's only relevant if we want to tell someone that they didn't take DK Kayblis' design from Sephiroth.
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>>163446016
>>163446089
>>163446160
>>163446170

Thanks for the explanations.
When is it ideal to play the Kichikou games then? After 4.2 ,or Kichikuou Rance, or after their respective games? (I Digest after 01, II Digest after 02 Kaikai, etc.)

Also, what's the difference between 02 and 02 Kaikai?

>>163446160
I'd appreciate it if you could.
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Well I am off. I suspect we will survive and that someone else will need to make the next OP

Odd feeling
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>>163446363
And even the originals had some inconsistencies with KR. As for the very first games the lore wasn't that well polished yet while KR expanded on it a lot.
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>>163445774
The Rance series was planned to be split into 10 games from the start, but when Alicesoft was going bankrupt in the late 90s after making rance 1, 2, 3, 4, 4.1 and 4.2, they realized they may not have lived long enough to do it, so decided to put all of their ideas that covered from rance 5 to 10 into a single, huge strategy game, and that is kichikuou.

Eventually the game was a success and they could resume the series from 5D and 6, that are considered the starting point of the "modern" Rance games as they build up the story as thoroughly as they had wanted from the start.

After a few years they also started making remakes of the old games and retconned some little things, introduced characters that originally didn't appear and stuff like that. For this reason I decided to split the timeline into two continuities, the Kichikuou continuity, with the first four games + kichikuou, and the (currently) canon continuity, with the remakes of the first four games (though 04 doesn't exist yet) and everything from 5D onwards.
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>>163446546
You can play it whenever you want really, but I guess the ideal would be playing it after the first 4 since you will know all the characters (not that you need to).
02 is a graphical update to the original Rance II, but retains the exact same gameplay, script, etc. Kaikai is the same but with an expanded script that adds scenes and stuff. 02 is translated but Kaikai is not.
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>>163446520
It's annoying.
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>>163446546
Hopefully someone can post the Rance timeline image for you

The digests are translated and exist so you don't have to play the original game.

The remakes are not translated. Rance 2 has exactly the same text as the original while kaikai is expanded.

KR can be played at any time but follows the four earlier games. It does not spoil the later Rance games at all
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>>163446546
>When is it ideal to play the Kichikou games then?
Whenever you want to play a really old game to see what old people like me talk about when they talk about games from back then.
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>>163446673
Meant to quote >>163446546

>>163446728
I did upload the photoshop project on mediafire on these threads a while ago, asking people to keep it safe just in case I were to go missing for some reason
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>>163446804
>It does not spoil the later Rance games at all
It does spoil IX a bit.
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>>163446804
>it doesn't spoil the other games at all
anon please
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>>163446905
One small thing that they don't even hide

Rance IX is a game which doesn't try to hide anything anyway
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>>163446804
It spoiled me that Reset was Rance's daughter when didn't use to visit these generals yet
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>>163446995
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>>163447097
Given Quest was basically marketed as the game with Rances daughter its not really a spoiler
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>>163431482
>Isoroku, Kenshin and Kou are pretty unimpressive
You could not be more wrong.
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The weirdest thing about KR is how Nobunaga was compared to Sengoku Rance. But that just highlights how weird Sengoku Rance's Nobunaga is compared to the real one.
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>>163447350
KR Nobunaga is basically Xavier, not really weird.
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>>163447435
KR Nobunaga is just Demon Nobunaga (as in like other media unrelated to Rance, not simply Majin Nobunaga)
It's common enough in Japan.
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>>163447531
I know, I was just comparing him to the canonical version.
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>>163447350

Well the guy gained during his life the title of Demon king (of the sixth hell ?). That's pretty impressive. Don't be progressive kids.
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>>163447649
He got that title because he butchered a lot of buddhists.
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I'll buy Quest/X if MG ever translates it, I'll torrent 5D and VI because I was one of the dumb cucks who trusted Arunaru and donated money.

>"WOW WHAT FAST PROGRESS"
>"WHAT A GREAT LAD, HAVE SOME SHEKELS!"
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>>163448347
>frogposting
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>>163448363t
>tfw too intelligent and typed 500wpm to activate all the keys instantly

>>163448481
>cucksponding to me
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>>163448618
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>>163446673
That's interesting, knowing what they originally planned for it. A shame they were on a verge of bankruptcy at one point, but happy they're doing well now.

It did feel like something was missing, and it seems it was 04. Is it actually coming?

>>163446714
>>163446804
>>163446851

I guess I'll hold off on playing any of the Kichikuou games for now, especially since the best versions of 1-3 aren't translated yet, while 4 doesn't exist yet.

I actually played the old I - Search for Hikari as well after I watched the Rance 01 anime, to relate to it a bit. But there's a lot of differences which I assume the 01 remake contains.

So what is expected the next game to be officially translated next after 5D and VI (if not Sengoku)?

Should they work on 01 onwards chronologically? Especially since they're untranslated right now.
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>>163448649
Thanks for Spec Ops friend, I already got the other 2 though.
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>>163446714
Does 02 add any new CGs or is it just text? I couldn't find a CG set for it.
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>>163448691
The Rance ova is just shit.

Only good for Lia, Maris and Kanami screenshots
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I'm going to pirate it. Being unemployed in a third world country during recession sucks
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>>163447435
Well what I meant is it's weird coming from Sengoku Rance and seeing KR Nobunaga, but it's weirder still the direction they took with him in Sengoku Rance in the first place.
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>>163448758
Did you even search?

https://exhentai.org/g/200547/3337a9d2b4/
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>>163448758
Kaikai changes the text
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>>163448925
Yeah, that's 02, but the other guy said that Kaikai adds scenes but couldn't find a CG set that referenced it
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>>163448837
hey fuck you pulptenks was hot
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>>163448972
Kaikai just changes text
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>>163448363
>>163448649
Thanks.
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>>163449015
The animation wasn't. And they cut the titjob
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Let's settle this once and for all.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11935358
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>>163448649
Thanks anon.
You also reminded me that the Steam Holiday Sale is now up, and just voted my nominee for the daily cards.
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>>163448363
>>163448649
Nice. Thanks, niwa.
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>>163449103
and they cut millie
it was still something
too bad about all those sill scenes
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>>163448691
The Rance 01 OVA covers the most important points and Yulang of the game while leaving out stuff related to side-characters like Millie and Patty.
Really, Lia's bits are the only important thing from 01 in the overall series.
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>>163448691
It's coming most likely. They did remake the first, second and third game, and given that the fourth is after all a good game I don't see why not.
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>>163448879
Argentina or Venezuela?
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>>163449135
>no "waiting for the physical release" option
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>>163449206
Cutting Milly was criminal
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>>163448837
>>163449224

I still really enjoyed it.
I don't know anything about the original so I don't really have much to complain about since I don't know what's left out.

It'll probably just enhance my experience for the 01 game more once it's translated.

>>163449325
Is there a strong possibility that 04 will be launched together with an English version after the success of the MangaGamer sales?
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>>163448972
Well I said adds scenes, but I should have used the word expands instead. Sorry.
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>>163449457
Not a chance in hell
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>>163449206
The weapon shop girl or mill's sister
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>>163449346
Same as "I will buy it in the future"
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>>163449343
Brazil
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>>163449457
>Is there a strong possibility that 04 will be launched together with an English version after the success of the MangaGamer sales?
No. Translations usually come years later.
Honestly I would suggest to just play the originals instead of waiting for translations of the remakes since they could take who knows how many years. They're probably going to follow with Sengoku->Quest->IX.
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>>163449594
Weapon Shop girl. Milli isn't even in 01
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>>163448691
They're an eroge company. Being on verge of bankrupcy is almost a stable position.
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>>163449594
>01
>mill's sister
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Does anyone have the Rance timeline chart?

The one that also shows all the endings?
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>>163449524
>>163449680

Fair enough. I guess I was just comparing them to normal Japanese vidya companies.

I'd love to play the originals, but no version of II seems to be translated. I'd play it even if it's old, since I still enjoyed the original I - Search for Hikari.
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>>163449457
>Is there a strong possibility that 04 will be launched together with an English version after the success of the MangaGamer sales?
It's the usual story.
For how oversaturated the eroge market is in Japan, the prices of these games is extremely inflated in that only people who'd want to specifically support the company will buy it.
Although generally most of the sales are made through preorders, a game will retain its launch price for a while. There's no one in the west who's going to spend 70€ on an eroge.

That's why they're porting older games first. It'll be a while before we see the more recent games.
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>>163449896
Rance 2 is translated
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>>163449826
This one?
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Haven't been able to play any games past Sengoku because EOP, does Rance ever manage to fix Sill?
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>>163449896
Rance 02 is translated, but it's got pretty shitty gameplay, unchanged from the 1990 game. It was short though so I admit that I enjoyed it.

Rance 01 is not translated, but the original 1 is. That's obviously the worst one in terms of gameplay.

They both have words-only, "digest" versions though, if you only care about the characters and story.
I would at least try out 02 anyway if I were you (the remake)
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>>163449896
02 is translated, 02 Kaikai is the one that isn't.
If you enjoyed the original I you are definitely going to enjoy III and IV.
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>>163450026
That is the one thanks.

It might help the anon asking questions
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>>163449896
02 is machine translated, but you're honestly better off reading the digest and playing III if you're fine with ancient games.
5D and VI are going to be released in 10 hours anyway.
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>>163450241
I thought the earlier parts of 02 were ok, it seems like it took a sharp drop in quality around when you were finishing up Ran's floor
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>>163450175
Crook wastes a wish to do it at the end of IX
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>>163449989
>>163450176
>>163450209

Oh you're right. I was looking at II and 02 Kaikai.

>>163450241
It's MTL? I'll probably hold off it for now, since I'm definitely gonna concentrate to 100% both 5D and VI this week.

I don't know if I want to read any of the digests without playing the original/remakes first.
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>>163450175
Yes
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>>163450026
>Lolicon Rance End
yikes man wasn't sure we were officially counting that as an ending.
that's my first ending I got on Rance ever though desu
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>>163450356
Spoilers, anon. We have an actual newfag here now.
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>>163450404
There is no point reading the digest if you have played
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>>163450423
wait i swear i didn't write desu desu
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>>163450175
>fix Sill
No, I doubt she'll be any less of a doormat just because she finally thawed.
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>>163450423
Lolicon Rance is the best Rance.
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>>163450504

I might be confused at what the digests and everything under Kichikuou are.
Are they games?
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>>163450356
Speaking of which I bet that wish will get brought up in X

Like Rance tells Crook to use it to solve a major problem but she can't
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>>163450601
They're programs that you open up and read like you would a visual novel. No choices, no saves, just text and the original game's CGs, like a picture book.
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>>163450601
They take out the gameplay and quickly go through all the plot of the game. You can finish reading both digests in like a hour.
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>>163450563
Sure, Anon, we believe you
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>>163450671

I was informed earlier that they are what-if scenarios from their original counterparts.

Do the digests cover the entire story + more, or just the extra content?
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>>163450601
The digests are like 15 minutes of text and cgs that tells you what happened in the game and the important things and people
Its so you know for instance who Lia is
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>>163450747
I miss that anime so much desu desu
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>>163334132
Maybe.

I can't wait until February for the really cringing drawings of Valentine's cards and waifus.
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>>163450763
I had to google and found a plebbit post about the 4chan word filter against "black twitter speak" even though it's really just millenial chat dialect
to be honest -> desu
shaking my head -> baka
family -> senpai
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>>163450763
No the remakes are the extended part. Rance 01, Kaikai and 03

Kichikuou is the what if one
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>>163450404
Well for now then read about the lore of the series or something. Might help make some things less confusing. There's like 10 hours left until release.
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>>163449343
>Argentina might be bad atm, but dont compare us with Venezuela.
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>>163450671
>>163450738
>>163450781

I see.

>>163450904
Ah yeah, what I meant to ask is that where does the "What if" branch from?
I Digest for example.
What parts of I Search for Hikari does it cover and what are the different content the Digest contains that the original I did not?

I played the original I and watched the OVA, so I'm fine with spoilers from those.
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>>163440463
>this is probably a question for a hacker or a points runner
latter here, I genuinely have no idea, and the issue is a constant worry in the back of my head, especially given how reliant on fast-ninja switching orochi is. I also don't precisely understand when the game makes the switch and allows you to switch in and use characters repeatedly instead of only letting you use them once before stuffing them in some queue you won't see again until after a bunch of other people have also acted. (If what I mean by that isn't exactly clear, I can try get s clear gif of it or something.)
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>>163450763
They're not what-if scenarios.
There's the original Rance I and Rance II. Only the first one is translated as far as I know.
Then there's the digest versions that quickly go through everything that happened in these games, taking out the gameplay and only narrating what has happened. Both of these are translated.

Then there's 01. It's a complete remake of the first game with different gameplay and retconned characters and story. Not translated.

Then there's 02. It's not really a remake, more like a graphical update of the original game, as it has the same gameplay and more importantly the same script as its original counterpart. This one is translated.
Then there's KAIKAI which is a patch that extends 02's script, making it about twice as long. It's what I've put in the canon continuity column because it's more exhaustive of a script. It's not translated.
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>>163451145
I know, I was just guessing options.
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>>163451364

Oh that really clears things up, thank you.
Does the Digest add any new content or story that the original Rance I and II did not contain?
Is it the same case for Rance III and III Digest?

I think the what-if scenario is the Kichikuou Rance, the 1997 game. Where does that branch of from?

>>163450956
I could but it's currently 3:14 AM for me, and the game should be out by the time I wake up.
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>>163451205
The What IF scenario is after 4.2.
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>>163450956
Only 10 hours? Wow I need to finish my things faster.
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>>163450956
If only I had a way to play it at all.
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>>163451725
Right. But is there a reason why it's listed after 5D and not 4.2 in this chart? >>163445774
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>>163451670
The digests are only of I and II by the way, and no they don't expand anything.
If you played Rance I, the digest is basically the text without the "gameplay". Like a visual novel.
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>>163451892
Because the chart places the game depending on the year on the left. 4.2 takes place in LP2 while Kichikuou is on LP3.
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>>163451892
The year it happens.
Kichikuou starts at March of LP3 (or April, I'm not sure) while 5D happens at December of LP2.
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>>163451892
5D is set in the year LP2

KR starts in the year LP3
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>>163451893
Right, I keep thinking that III is on the retcon side of the chart and it got a III Digest aligned to it.

>>163452023
>>163452075
>>163452081

Ah, of course. Does Kichikou have any relation or references to 5D at all? I'm guessing it doesn't.


That said, ignoring 5D and VI for now, should I read the II Digest first before playing 02, or 02 first before II Digest?
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>>163451670
>Does the Digest add any new content or story that the original Rance I and II did not contain?
No
>Is it the same case for Rance III and III Digest?
There's no III Digest. Only for the first two games.

>I think the what-if scenario is the Kichikuou Rance, the 1997 game. Where does that branch of from?
I don't remember if it branches off from 4.2 or 5D, but that doesn't really matter as both his adventures in those games are on a contained scale and don't have anything to do with the bigger picture.

Consider Kichikuou a what-if scenario when comparing it to what happens in VI, Sengoku, Quest and IX. It still shares a lot of events with these games. although it was made in 1996 and Rance IX is from two years ago.
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>>163452161
The digests are an alternative so that you don't have to go through the obnoxious gameplay of the original I and II. If you're planning tou play them, you don't need to read it.
And 5D has no relation with KR.
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>>163452161
>>163452207
It branches of 4.2. Kichikuou is 6 years older than 5D.
The only relation between Kichikuou and 5D I can think of is that the Kichikuou manual (or was it an Alicesoft magazine?) mentioned Feb, that was only conceived in 5D and only actually appeared for real in VI anyway.
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Help me I can't deal with the hype
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>>163452310

I don't mind how old or shitty the early Rance games are, I'm at the point where I want to know about every game from the series, before and after remakes.

I'd play Rance II if I could, but II Digest and 02 are my available options for now. I'm just wondering if I should go through the old version first before playing the remake myself.

>>163452207
>>163452412
Alright, cool.
>>
I just had a sudden realization.

In a week I'll be like "what now?" and there will be no more games for at least another year.
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>>163452695
02 isn't actually a proper remake, it's just a graphic upgrade. Alicesoft has already talked about how they want to make a proper remake of it in the future.
Which is why you don't lose anything if you just read the digest and look at the CGs on sadpanda.
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>>163452824
>a week
Are you planning on playing the games non-stop all day every day?
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>>163452824
Alicesoft will start releasing X info in 2017.
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>>163452824
Well yeah, that's how games usually work. People waited for years for Persona V or FFXV and it was over in a week or so.
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>>163452695
While >>163452863 is right, it wouldn't hurt to at least try 02 out because it's pretty short.
Of course, if you finish that game, there's no need to read the digest. Not "no need" as in "unnecessary", no need as in "useless", as it just summarizes the game's events
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>>163452824
If you aren't used to it already then get to doing it.

Some of us are still waiting for a good Metroid game, for example.
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>>163452863
>>163453094

Thanks for the suggestions, I think I'll go play 02 instead and ignore the digest. I'm missing out on the new content Kaikai added, but I'll just wait for 02's proper remake then.

Can I get a link for 02? Sukebei if available
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>>163453024
I've been waiting for persona 5 since 2009 myself. Hype still used to linger somewhat but the fact that the japs didn't like it is not very promising.

FFXV is just FFXII but shorter and without the monsters on the map.
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>>163452695
>I don't mind how old or shitty the early Rance games are, I'm at the point where I want to know about every game from the series, before and after remakes.
You liked Sengoku that much?
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>>163452695
Rance 02 is basically Rance II in every way. The translated version of it, anyway, not Kaikai. It just has better graphics. Rance III is actually a pretty good game, despite being so old. It by no means ages well, but it still manages to be fun and interesting. It's kind of annoying at the end when they just have Force on an endless loop for like an hour, but aside from that, III is really when the Rance series starts to hit its stride.
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>>163453262
Same goes for me. I still have to play a decent Rance game after finishing sengoku back in high school. That's why I'm looking forward to VI this much.
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>>163452614
Would I quell your hype if I posted this pic of Shizuka?
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>>163453409
You didn't play Kichikuou or you just a "too old" fag?
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>>163453262

I did enjoy Sengoku a lot. Although I've only beat it once and never finished my 2nd playthrough, Sengoku Rance was what got me into the eroge (with gameplay) genre.

But what generally won me over was realizing how big the franchise and the fanbase is, and I want in on that shit.

>>163453272
I'm used to such obnoxious gameplay, so I don't mind playing all of it if I could.
My standards are especially lower for eroge anyway.
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>>163453584
I forgot about Kichikuou and IV
But I liked Mamatoto better than both. While Kichikuou is 9/10, mamatoto is just perfect, it gives you so many possibilities and challenges, I'm in love with that game.
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>>163453120
>Some of us are still waiting for a good Metroid game, for example
please don't remind me how long it's been since 2d metroid. just no
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>>163453120
I'm still waiting for Black & White spiritual successor
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>>163453120
I've been waiting for a good harvest moon game after the first one on the DS.

Actually, we did get one. It's called stardew valley.
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>>163454641
Rune Factory is solid, imo.
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>>163454702
RF is great but didn't they go bankrupt?
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>>163454786
Yes. They deserve it for not being able to marry the dragon
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>>163440463
>>163451240
>latter here, I genuinely have no idea
Great, time to summon the hacker anons.
>>
>come back after 3 hours to see 200 new posts

Nice to be lively again, if only for awhile.
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>>163454913
The human form of Ventuswill was indeed wonderful
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WELL SO MUCH FOR SPILLING IT ON THE FIRST CG
THANKS ANON
>>
SEVEN

HOURS
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>>163455205
I doubt they will release at noon
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>>163455376
Haruka was and one anon here confirmed Himawari does as well so odds are good it will drop 12pm JST.

Now that said, I expect the site will probably be overloaded from traffic.
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>>163453120
Metroid2 remake was ok
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>>163440463
>>163455026
Replacing characters are gotten by blindly picking random numbers and checking if the character at that slot is good enough to swap in. The game is quite picky about "good enough" and might just keep checking the same character over and over, so it fails to find a replacement sometimes.

Take a look at function 'S補充' for the original TADA coding experience. Pseudocode: http://pastebin.com/VitqVHE0
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>>163455780
Think those troop types in the paste might be the wrong way around. The first check is more selective.
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I wonder how many people that are buying 5D/VI actually bought bought Haruka.
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>>163453753
Mamatoto is a game that would benefit greatly from a Remake. The game could have really used some sort of new game+ and the last country always felt rushed to me
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There's probably someone somewhere who'll buy this, start with 5D and hate it so much he'll give up on the serie forever
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>leila has a bigger bust than maris
horseshit
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>>163456092
I've had a full-flags maria be switched in to the front row before, which would be covered by the first check (sub-optimal) but disallowed by the second (completely unsuited).
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>>163456147

I wanted to buy Haruka too but I had no budget at the time, so I pirated it. But I'm happy that it sold enough to get Rance 5D+VI localized anyway. So I'm doing my part to buy that this time.
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>>163456335
or probably skip to vi, since mg is saying RANCE VI RANCE VI and not 5D 5D 5D
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>>163456353
Where?
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>>163456550
Wiki
leila B90
maris B88
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>>163456335
They may not like 5D, but VI should reel most in.
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So, how long will be the site/dls be borked for after launch?

>>163456335
Unlikely. First, while 5D can be a bit randumb, it's hardly agonizing unless you're a high blood pressure kind of guy.

Secondly, VI is the total opposite of 5D in so many respects.
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>>163456307
Rance IX is the remake
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>>163455780
Okay, looking over this, this appears to be insanely useful knowledge. This seems to confirm that things I thought were impossible were just extremely improbably, and by grinding switches long enough it might be possible to eliminate all of the orochi girls before they get any chance to act. I'd previously given up on that as a possibility, but if so that changes quite a deal, as not having to worry about them removing guard shikigami, healing each other, etc. alters the playing field considerably. I'll have to test this out to confirm sometime when I've got several hours and don't mind boring myself half to death.
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>>163456642
>unless you're a high blood pressure kind of guy

You have a lot faith in the potential player base this'll turn up to play (through pirate or buy).
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High noon JST is 4 am where I live. Now that's sub-optimal
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>>163456147
I bought one copy, but that's partly because I wanted Escalayer too and Haruka was its sequel. I probably wouldn't have bought something like Tsuma Shibori just to support Rance.
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>>163456353
To be fair, her armor makes her boobs look smaller and they're still pretty big.
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>>163457268
>that pic
triggered
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>>163457397
why?
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leilafag
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>>163456353
Tell Rick, maybe he'll go for the girl who is best suited for and actually likes him instead of the iron-masked know it all milf that's devoted her life to a precocious brat
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>>163457653
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>>163456147
Yeah, but I admit I'm a bit of a buyfag...
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>>163457535
I assume it's Takajun coming to terms with "Leazus"
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>>163457735
>7 pages

H-how many does it list per page?
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>>163457535
SEE>>163457617
>>163457653
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>>163448649
Cheers anon.
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>>163457653
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>>163457726
I don't know who you're talking about but I just hate when no one in a game can ever be happy except for the protagonist.

I like Rick and Leila and I want them to be happy, whether together of with other people. I'd also be fine with having Maris fall for Rick but that's never going to happen, and Leila just doesn't fit in Rance's harem.
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>>163457795
5 items per page. There's also a link to bring you to the order summary from the old site.
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>>163457940
Stop, we know it's you.
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I wish that they did CG's for bad ends
like with the two possible bad ends for akihime and senhime being killed on the battlefield in sengoku
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Chill D-sharp
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The best Reira seems are her being kidnapped by demons, raped and mindbroken anyway.
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>>163457940
>except for the protagonist.

Rance pretty regularly gives side characters happy endings, just not the specific happy ending between the two characters you want. Actually they did in KR. Rick just evolved as a character when he finally came back in VI so there's no real need to force her on him.
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>>163458251
The main heroines of IX have.
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>>163458376
nah its all about that scene with her in the fires of hiwari after the fight with nobunaga and she is clutching her pregnant stomach
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>>163458450
I don't want to force her on him, that's just my headcanon.
Besides I don't really like Leila that much, It's Rick that I'm a fag for.
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>>163458251
Maybe a Kou scene for the lolican bad end for Sengoku?
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>>163456948
But it's not as good.
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Newfag here from earlier >>163445774
Thanks again for all the responses and feedback.
It's getting late (almost 5AM) so I'm heading to bed, hopefully waking up to Rance 5D+VI.

I wish I should've asked earlier so I can play Rance 02 first. I could, but I don't think my excitement would let me have 5D+VI slip by me when it'd right in front of me.
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>>163458630
02 is actually shit though. You can get pretty far in III before 5D and VI are out I bet.
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>>163458606
Another raepscene for Kou, I ask for it.
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>>163459093
That was implied, yes
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>>163458630
02 is pretty awful
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My dick is acting weirdly, it's getting rock fucking solid for no reason.

Is this a sign?
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>>163459706
Yes.
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>>163455741
That was finished? Shit. I need to try that out.
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Last chart update before release, Rance obviously was able to keep first place

Of the 21 days the chart updated since Rance went up for preorder, Rance lead 19 of those days. It was behind Sonohana day one, and it fell behind Himawari for one day.
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>>163459132
I don't think we're asking it for the same reasons though.
I fucking hate Kou.
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Who has the better ass?

Shizuka or Kanami?
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six hours lads

hopefully
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>>163456147

I bought Haruka but I never did play it after downloading it.
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>>163460484
Can't blame you haruka is shit
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>>163455780
>http://pastebin.com/VitqVHE0
>warriors aren't suboptimal for the front row but this webm happened >>163440463, and I don't recall it taking me more than one attempt to make after I experienced the problem for the first time
Hmm, I've got my doubts, I'll look at that code sometime. Given that you're generating 78 random numbers for 30 (31?) troop slots, I would've thought that the odds would be skewed towards units switching in successfully rather than unsuccessfully. But who knows, I think I'm drunk.
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>>163460263
Urza.
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>>163460656
This.
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>>163460263
>ass

>when rance girls have best tummies ever
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>>163460656
I'm going to need evidence on this claim.
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>>163460987
Not him but you'll have your answer in like 6 hours. The booty is strong in Ice flame.
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>>163460982
This is my fetish
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXp1C6Byd2E

Inevitable theme song of this thread.
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>>163435818
Nope, I'm not going to buy it and not going to play it. Let's see how my sour grapes take shape.
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>>163444375
I'm glad they put the downloading numbers in chronological order as opposed to in order of which game is better.
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>>163460612
>>163455780
On the one hand, you have only like 11 slots that could actually switch in. On the other hand, rolling below 33% almost 80 times in a row...

Now I'm curious too. Where do I go to find the S補充 function? I tried the SSG from the modding guide FAQ to no avail.
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>>163460612
Yeah. That function could theoretically always cause switches to fail, but it's really unlikely to happen even once. There's definitely something else causing it as well.
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Do people really want MG to bring Sengoku next?
What's the point if everyone's already played it? Ask for Quest instead.
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>>163453471
Not him, but I want to see Shizuka with hair as red as Willis.
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>>163462271
Because no one wants the best game in the series to remain unpublished
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>>163462271
I'd buy a physical SR.
But yeah, I'll probably ask for Quest.
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>>163462271
Well Sengoku is a game that will always be relevant I feel, people will keep coming to it and talking about it. Might as well have an official definitve version of it.
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>>163462271
They have to. SR was translated by yanderetranslations and obviously cannot be sold as official
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>>163461946
Grab the decompiler from the pastebin in the OP and translations from https://mega.nz/#!nc0F2BhI!XfOp72Aqk3zwbr-u4TveZSdwisXmtPFh1WP9xR_C4DY
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>>163450423
I still don't even know how you get that ending.
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>>163462874
Do the events with Katsuie and his friend
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>>163462874
Just have Rance follow his true desires
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>>163462874
Give Kojika the 3 fingers
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MG started a nukige bundle for Christmas, and since they sell thousands of those order number is going to be fairly useless in estimating how well Rance is doing post launch (see the spikes on the chart in the /jp/ thread whenever they had a bundle)
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>>163462509
Thanks, you are teaching me to fish. Maybe I'll be able to understand some of the babble from the chinese guide about the random starting troop value generation being affected by selecting and deselecting houses/bonus units in certain orders now too.
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>>163462360

Here is my shitty 5 minute photoshop, I missed a bunch of spots
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>>163463320
Would nakadashi
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>>163463320
Red hair and blue eyes is a great combination, I love it
But now they don't fit her clothes
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>>163463519
Fortunately Bezeleye has that combo

Blue hair and red eyes is better. Similar to Elizabeth.
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>>163461365
>not Tonight is the Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnlnBY-a-oQ

Come on man
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>>163462271
Sengoku is too important to the overall setting to ignore.

What with Sill growing cold and all
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>>163462360
I did it for you anon.
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>>163463882
Hikari has red hair and blue eyes too.
But I think red eyes fit better with black hair.
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>>163463946
And 1-4.2 weren't important?

They'll jump around and do whatever makes the most sense at the time, and I don't think something that a large percentage of fans already played is that right now.
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>>163464106
Not always.
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>>163463946
>What with Sill growing cold and all

Not really, that is a scene unrelated to the rest of the game that can be explained in one sentence. Sengoku is more relevant for the backstory of recurring characters like Kenshin, but there's not that many of them either.
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>>163464097

CUTE!!!!!
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>>163464110
Those were already translated (3, 4 series; digest wassss Ludo iirc) by (one) of the same translators for 5D+VI. Also they're literal freeware in Japan so you can't even market them.

SR made the series popular here to behind with, and Takajun did a mediocre job anyway so eventually they'll have to it again themselves.
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>>163464097
Wow
I'll jerk off to this later
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If the /jp/ thread is accurate, MG is up 6000 orders because of an Indiegala bundle, so any hopes of tracking Rance are out the window.
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>>163458630
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS
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>>163463187
>Maybe I'll be able to understand some of the babble from the chinese guide about the random starting troop value generation being affected by selecting and deselecting houses/bonus units in certain orders now too.
Good luck mate. I was happy to take a programming course in order to help my understanding of SR, translating Chinese moonrunes is where I'll draw the line. I wish you the best of luck.
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Seems like MG's survey is going to be next month.
What are you going to suggest?
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>>163464395
I sometimes wonder if people who say SR doesn't need to be updated for translation and they can just release it as is have not noticed the blatant typos everywhere or random untranslated shit all over the game. It was clearly a hack job translation.
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>>163465823
Rance 01 + Kaikai bundle
Galzoo
Venus Blood
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>>163465946
Fuck, I'd buy Venus Blood.
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>>163465823
Evenicle
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>>163465823
Galzoo and Rance Quest.
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>>163465823
Hmm, tough question. Going with Alicesoft's covergirl, Daiakuji, and maybe a non-Alicesoft title. I should start thinking hard about it, actually.
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>>163465927

I think people would just rather play a new rance game. People who are only playing the translated games have been playing the same game for years.

I think there probably going to do Sengoku next though.
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>>163465823
Rance Quest, Evenicle and Galzoo.
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Somebody make the new thread. I can't.

Just use the game cover I guess
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>>163466318
Does anyone have this album? I've been looking for it for the longest time
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>>163465823
Pastel Chime 3 desu
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>>163465823
D R A P E K O

Or more rance be cool; package deal for SR plus Quest I guess?
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>>163467107
Why would either be part of a package deal?
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According to Doddler it should take 7 more hours till release
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>>163467180
Quest would be a package deal with Magnum hopefully
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>>163467180
Personal assumption SR won't be released by itself. Not saying I'm expecting it.
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>750+
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>>163467107
5D was probably just packaged because it is short and RNG-y and people might feel unhappy about paying for it. VI alone is worth about $35 anyway so it feels like a great deal even if you did not like 5D. Sengoku and Quest are both fully featured extremely long games. It makes no sense to bundle them.
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>>163467293
I already said I can'r make the OP this time
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>>163465823
Rance, Galzoo, and Blade Briders
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>>163467281

Sengoku Rance is a huge game. By itself it will take a long time to translate, I dont see them releasing a package deal unless they are going to work on it for a couple of years and release it at a high price around 60-80 dollars
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>>163467281
That is an incredibly baseless assumption
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Soes anyone have the "my ass is in danger" screencap?
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>>163466470
How about this as OP? I know it's Quest but come on, it's fitting.
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>>163467493
If you wanna dream may as well do it big.
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>>163467584
What did I do wrong?
>>
What do you people see in Shizuka?
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>>163467597
VI would be better but that works
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>>163467695
Should have been simply Rance VI edition. We are hours away.
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>tfw Rance is a manlet
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>>163465927
I'm not saying it doesn't need a new translation, just that it wouldn't be the smartest decision for MG to prioritize it right now when it's not really going to get people excited. They should try to capitalize on the hype for VI+5D and get another new game out while people still give a shit. Giving us something we've already had for years, even if improved, is just going to make a lot of people stop paying attention and isn't really guaranteed to sell well since a lot of people won't bother to buy it if they already played it before.
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