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>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

>Old:
>>163205675
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Because you lot apparently need a REMINDER
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Do you need the root chalice to be F/R/C to get the chalice exclusive caryll runes or does it make it "more likely" that chalice will have an exclusive rune? I can't use glyphs. Is it pointless to try to get said runes if you can't use glyphs?
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Willem did nothing wrong.
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PURGE FILTH
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>>163322218
What happens if you filter the guy who creates the general? Wouldn't that mean you just would not see the gen at all and thus would be fucked out of the happy general experience?
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>>163322251
Seems random, really. I have found runes in some that only have two curses.

Does the PS+ trial exploit not work anymore? If it does, you can just get free PS+ for a weekend and load up your stones with the proper glyphs and grab the runes at your leisure.
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>>163322402
>Being a tripfag apologist

He took his trip off specifically because at least half the general has him filtered. Even then, it would still show in the catalog.
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>>163322402
You would see the OP, but none of his posts in the thread itself. You have to go out of your way to filter OPs. They are not filtered by default.
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>>163322390
Willem did the thing to the fishing hamlet
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There's a chest in the wall in the Great Pthumeru Ihyll chalice. I thought that chalice layout was 'designed' and not randomized.
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>>163322585
>none of his posts
What did he mean by this?
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>>163323168
He forgot to take his trip off. K.E.K
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>>163323168
You know I am not the only trip in existence, right?
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my first attempt at orphan of kosm. how'd i do?
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>>163323401
6/10
Apply yourself, good hunter
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>>163323401
Not too bad, assuming you win on your second try.
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Blunderbuss slotted with a flat BLT damage gem on a BLT build. Yes? No?
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>>163324060
FRC Blood-starved Beast gems get to 28.7% + 7.3 flat blood damage, and one of those slotted into a Blunderbuss with high bloodtinge makes for some goofy damage, or so I hear.
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>>163323326
You might as well be
When's the last time kobra or Cass even posted here?
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>>163324201
Would it perform better than a top-tier flat BLT gem? I've got 50 BLT and I wanna try out some other guns because I'm bored of the Evelyn.
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>>163323401
Lucy took an entire week only to get him on his second phase, you're ok.
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>No cape toggle
>No facewrap toggle
>No Black Church Hat without the hood
>No tiny Knight's Hat without the dumb ponytail for female characters

The fashion in this game is real good, but it could be so much better.
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>>163324331
I literally killed him on my second try. He is the most DaS like boss in the game, and that made him particularly easy for me.

>>163324230
They stopped posting when I came back because they recognize their better, but there are generals beyond this one. His question was a general one.
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>>163324654
>Lucy
>I literally killed him on my second try
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What is a good gun to use?
Blunderbuss or pistol?
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>>163324759
Pistol
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>>163324759
both are good, pistol is better for parrying, blunderbuss is more forgiving because it has a higher chance to stagger enemies even when you mistime your parry
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>>163324759
On a BLT build, Evelyn

On non-BLT builds:
pistol for parries
repeating pistol for damage
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>>163324751
>>163324230
>Replying

How fucking hard is it to just not respond? I don't understand you people. Refer to >>163322218.

>>163324759
Pistol does better damage per shot and has faster recovery, Blunderbuss has the spread and high stagger to help keep you safe in case you do miss the parry, but typically doesn't do as much damage and has slower recovery.

They both fire the first shot on the same frame, shotguns just have more endlag. It's personal preference, really.
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>>163324951
I use th3 Evelyn purely for S.W.A.G. on my Arcane build.
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>>163325026
Your tears make it all worthwhile
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>>163325026
Chill, I literally baited lucy and he fell for it
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>>163325026
just give up senpai, people are always going to reply because no one really cares
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>>163325026
Because none of you fucking worthless faggot trash actually help or play the game.
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>>163325094
I'm not mad, anon. Just disappointed.
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>>163325230
I'm gonna pretend I didn't read that and continue living in blissful shitposting ignorance
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Anyone doing co-op?
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I know Flat-Arc rifle spear was patched, but what about flat-Phys rifle spear?

I just found a 44 flat physical gem and since physical gems affect blood damage, I was wondering if you could partially recreate the power of the flat-arc rifle spear.
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>>163325078
That's a lot of wasted points in BLT just for swag though. If you wanted swag you should have used Ludwig's anyway.

>>163325137
Jokes on you. I find it delicious.
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>>163325343
no

>>163325404
>merely pretending
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>>163325404
Yeah I know, it still helps sometimes so there's that
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>>163325462
Fair enough. Personally, I just stopped using guns entirely on Arc builds when they made the changes to the tentacles.

>>163325429
Pretending?
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>>163325291
Need help or wanna help?
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>>163325291
All the time
Just not right now
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>>163324060
Yes, FRC BSB Circle gems on it will do more damage than an Evelyn if all the pellets hit. You just gotta get close, really satisfying shooting down spiders and dogs with it.
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What the fuck I didn't realize the end was right after the shitty nurse.
Should I just start doing chalice dungeons before going into NG+? I have to kill the last two bosses of the DLC still.
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>>163325291
sure am would u like a sunmon
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>>163326242
They don't scale with NG+ so do them whenever, getting them done as soon as possible is what I'd recommend.
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>>163326328
I wouldnt mind have you reached research hall ?
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Can't lie /bbg/, so far, some of the bosses that I felt were a little too weak in virgin cycle are a lot more fun in NG+.
I'm talking about Darkbeast Paarl, I blasted through him in my first playthough but now he's actually a challenging fight and I'm seeing his full movet more.
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>>163326328
>>163325932
>>163325842
Not really looking for help, just finished ng and I'm a bit bored of farming. Although I suppose I could make a frc if anyone wants to go spelunking.
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>>163326743
You probably fought him late in NG. You're expected to fight him right after BSB. Cleric beast > Gascan > BSB > Paarl
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Friendly reminder that everything he does, he does for (you)'s
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Why is living failure harder at a lower BL ? I fought ludwig solo with ease but living failures give me cancer
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>>163327153
Because it is a DPS race.
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>>163327153
Multiple enemies means there's a higher chance of getting hit. It's easier to focus on one enemy, and the Failures hit pretty hard especially at lower BLs.
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Wait, if I'm looking right at some of the gem set ups, the "best" gems still have a curse attached. I was assuming you could get say a +27% physical attack gem with no curse. Am I wrong here or must a gem like that always be cursed?
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>>163327406
All i want is that rakuyo but those living failure pieces of shit are denying me from it
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>>163327610
They will always be cursed, but the curses are not all made the same. Atk dwn vs kin, for example, has no effect in PvP, and not many enemies are considered kin. Durability down doesn't effect gun shots so it is good on the bow blade if you only plan on using it as a bow. etc.
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>early bosses like papa gascan and amelia feel genuinely threatening in NG+
>bosses like ludwig feel fairly easy
I hate this feeling.

>>163327610
The very top-tier gems are always cursed, yes. That's why they're as powerful as they are. You can't have that kind of massive damage boost (adding over a quarter of a weapon's AR to its final AR is huge) without a drawback.
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>>163327610
Best gems are always cursed, several curses aren't too bad. For PvP Beast and Kin Down are the best. Having one weapon for Beasts with Kin down and another for Kin with Beast down is good for PvE. Stam Curse is hardly noticeable, so if you want to use a weapon for everything that's the best curse. Dura down for a few weapons like Wheel and Parasite since they have high durability. -4 HP deplete on Cold Abyssals for Arc builds can be neglected with a +5 HP regen gem on your gun. Atk down is the worst.
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>>163327704
Kill the first Ayy, then kill the one on the left. Stay there for the next to spawn, there'll most likely be an Ayy spamming magic but it won't hit you if you stay near the spot. BB Pellets and Bolt Paper to kill them quick enough to prevent others from spawning.
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>>163327824
>>163327876
>>163327954

welp, that's why I was prizing my joyful uncursed +18% or so attack gems. I've got a bunch of atk v kin down ones that are higher, but I tend to slot those on back up weapons because I'm too lazy to look up which Eldritch abominations count as kin and which don't
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>>163328130
Rom, Bribri, Ayymissary, Brainsuckers and Failures. Any other boss is not.
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>>163328130
Majority of curses aren't as bad as you'd think they are. The only one that actually sucks is ATK down because it's usually like 9% and that's terrible.
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>>163328130
Almost nothing is kin and the shit that is tends to be so weak anyway that it doesn't even matter. Slot the attack down vs kin ones if they are significantly higher.
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>>163327876
>early bosses like papa gascan and amelia feel genuinely threatening in NG+
>bosses like ludwig feel fairly easy
>I hate this feeling.
I beat Gassy and Amelia second and first try on ng+ when I died to them like 6 and 15 times on ng and Amelia was my second hardest boss in ng. I guess maybe you went to ng+ earlier than I did. I did a bunch of chalice stuff first

I'm going to assume Ludwig will still be hard for me for some reason.
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>>163328289
>>163328234
They really should've balanced kin better. Like make the class "Eldritch" instead and also include bosses like Amygdala and Wet Nurse. Maybe they didn't want to give you an easy advantage against those bosses with Attack vs kin up gems though.
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>>163328462
>Maybe they didn't want to give you an easy advantage against those bosses with Attack vs kin up gems though.
How would that have ever happened? Atk v. Kin/Beasts are rare and a sham to boot for being typically weaker than standard Atk% of the same rating.
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>>163327610
Think of gems having a "budget" of positive effects. The higher the rating the higher the budget, so rating 19 and 20 are the best gems. For every positive effect a gem has some of this budget is used up, for example a gem with a secondary effect will have a lower primary effect compares to one that doesn't (eg Watcher gems). And a gem with 3 positive effects (Rom, Elder and Emmisionary in uncursed dungeons) will have even lower effects.

Curses count as negative budget, allowing the gem to make the positive effects better. Some enemies have a unique Modifer for halved curses, but this means the positive effects are also slightly reduced. Which is why Rom Noirishing Abyysals only go to 19.5% but Amy's go to 21.5%, abd the ultra rare Watcher Nourishings go to 23.6% (at rating 19 even) because they have full powered curses and no secondary eating the avalible boosts. Brainsuckets have tiny primary effects but gigantic secondary flat arcane. Madmen are similar but less extreme, with slightly reduced primary effects and teipled secondary effects.

Cursed gems are always best, and full strength curses are best unless it's unavoidable (Rom is still the best source of radial Nourishings). Whether or not a secondary effect is desirable is also up to individual cases. Often gems with no secondary are best, other times a lower primary with a good secondary is best.
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>>163328109
Ill try that thanks for the adv
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>>163328462
I've always considered Kin bosses to be ascended Great Ones (except Brainsuckers) while Amy, MP, Nurse, etc are true Great Ones. Not confirmed but it's my take on it.
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Do i go normal rakuyo or uncanny/lost?
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>>163328705
I thought of it like this:
Kin = Guyver
Beasts = Zoanoids

Kin are rarer because they are of purely alien origins.
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>>163328826
Normal for Phys/Arc, Lost for Fire/Bolt.
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>>163328598
Nice analysis
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>DaS3 PvP at Pontiff is deader than fuck
>Not going to buy the DLC

Well, shit. Maybe I'll make the Amelia cosplay now.

Some anon said you can get Beast Claws without doing Pthumeru. I'm convinced this is bullshit, but if someone knows better do share please.
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>>163328867
That's the opposite of true though.

We know for a fact that the Celestial Emmisionaries and living failures were originally human, same with Rom. The Great Ones actually from nigjtmares arnt Kin.
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Guys how much END do you pump points into ? I want 15 arc for Empty Phantasm but then I'll only have 12 END
Btw what the fucks up with the captcha ? It just asked me to select images that feel romantic
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>>163329091
Probably meant the glitch that was patched long ago. Summon someone with the Claw in the Dream and you have it yourself I think.
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>>163329146
What level are you trying to stop at? Just get the 15 end. No one's going to care if you go to 101. Most of these faggots are 120 or more anyway.
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>>163329091
You used to but it was patched
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>>163329105
Sho was human too.

>>163329146
I always shoot for 15 end as a minimum.

>>163329261
Most of use are 98. Some are 117.
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>>163329146
12 is enough, I usually keep it at base. 15 is the sweetspot and 20 the maximum recommended. Just slap on the best stam rune and you're good to go. Phantasm Shell is eh, 15 Arc for Beast Roar and Old Hunter Bone are better but you can do without. 18 for Augur is nice.
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>>163329261
98 i wanna do FC since dsg doesnt host any for console so i come to bbg for my FC fix
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>>163329219
>>163329328
This was just the other day. What he actually said was that you can open Loran without doing Pthumeru. Still, though.
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>>163329091
Nah you have to do Pthumeru, but just the first two dungeons and then you can farm ritual blood 4 off of a Sackmen on the first layer of Lower Pthumeru. It shouldn't take more than 30 minutes to reach that point and first two dungeons are really easy.
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>>163329406
Just get 15 End then and stop at 101.
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>>163329415
Probably if you're on NG+ and can buy the materials, but that requires completing the game. Even then getting Ailing requires killing Amelia and Amy, so you're about half way into the game already.
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>>163329369
>20 the maximum recommended
I wouldn't say that. End makes for a great dump stat.
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>>163329535
Yeah that's probably what he meant.

I guess I can't expect to escape the soul-crushing tedium anyway if I'm gonna gem the thing eventually.
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>>163329406
This is what i was gonna to go for
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>>163329738
12 End for Skill weapons is mostly adequate. I wouldn't want 12 for a Rakuyo, but anything else is probably fine.

You don't necessarily need 50 Vit. 44-5 is plenty.
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>>163329738
That's good, but 12 Str is kinda a waste. Lone Survivor would've been a better starter, 11 Str for Loch Shield and 10 Blt for Reiter.
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Yharman Queen anyone? Ringing at the Bell. And before anyone ask, yeah she isn't hard, she would probably be my favorite boss if you didn't have to do Chalice BS. Pass is bbg.
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>>163329738
Move 3 points from Vit to End and 3 more to Arc.
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>>163329872
Yeah ik i was planning to go with another weapon but i decided rakuyo would be better but alas i had already started a new playthrough
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>>163329885
On my way
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This abyssal any good or should I keep trying for a better one?
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>>163330036
How much do you want to fight HBLB again?

I'd keep it.
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>>163329738
Fuck it ill just buy a shit ton of bolt/fire papers phantasm just looks really dope
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>>163330036
You could get slightly better physical damage (like +15) but really 5 points of damage won't do much and stamina down is the best curse in the game, so I'd keep it.
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>>163330027
Thanks.
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>>163330528
No prob ;)
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>>163330082
>>163330484
alright thanks, I'll probably end up farming HBLB more so I have HAs for every weapon but this will do for helping me farm blunts and 27s
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I finished all the "main" Chalice dungeons in the guide, I want to start farming but it'll give me a "You don't meet the requirements".
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>>163331758
Did you make an FRC of any depth 5 yet?
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>>163331801
No, how do I?
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>>163331854
Recommended chalice to do it with is Isz root, since it costs the least. Try following the instructions here: http://imgur.com/a/YobZp
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>>163332010
Thanks.
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>>163332010
Do I have to finish it or just create it?
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>>163332123
Just create it.
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>>163332209
Thanks, again.
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>>163332209
Forgot to ask, sorry, Is it ok to erase Lower Pthumerian now? And thanks in advance.
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>>163332346
If you've cleared a dungeon fully then there's no real reason to keep it around, since bosses don't respawn unless you recreate the dungeon.
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>>163332459
I know I'm getting annoying, can I erase the Cursed Isz Chalice? Or does that blocks my ability to search by gylph?
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>>163333119
You should be good as long as you've made the dungeon once
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>>163333228
Ah, thanks.
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>>163333119
All you have to do to search FRC roots is possess the root chalice of the type of dungeon you wanna search for (Ihyll Root for Ihyll glyphs, Isz Root for Isz glyphs, etc.) and have made an FRC root of any kind, at some point in time. You don't to finish it, and you can delete it. You just have to have made one at one point in time.
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>>163333331
Damn almost sextuplets.
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Is WPN durability down 65.3 bad?
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>>163335992
On a PvP weapon with decent/high durability it's okay if you don't feel like farming and don't mind constantly warping back to the dream to repair your weapon, but it's complete shit in PvE

The hierarchy of curses is pretty much like this:
Stamina cost up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack against kin down > attack against beasts down > Durability down > Everything else is literally garbage, sell it immediately.
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>>163336118
Ah, thanks.
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I'm the anon who kept asking for help in the Chalice dungeons and for explanations, I got my 1st lvl 20 arcane gem bros
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>>163337790
Rating doesn't matter much, stats do.
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What's the story with the best bloodtinge gems then?

inb4 31.5%

I'm talking about the real Korean stuff here - 32.5%, has anyone ever got one? I've seen a pic of one before
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>>163338024
Very, very rare gem. Possibly from Isz Watchers. 31.5% OoS gems are easy to get compared to this beauty.
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Holy fuck is it fun 1v2ing co-op kiddies through srrc
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>>163338228
One can have such a thing?
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>>163338316
With the Devil's luck maybe.
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>>163338228
Yeah I've seen that pic before. Was it a /bbg/ anon?

In my experience Isz Watchers drop the same shit as Ihyll Watchers, just slightly more often

Also seen 23% nourishings - any more /cosmicallyraregems/ around?
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>>163338708
Don't remember but doubt it was from here. I have 32.6% vs Kin and 31.5% vs Beast gems which are pretty cool. Also a Fire Circle gem from a Bone Ash Hunter, too bad it's utterly useless.
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Does anyone here have a PS4 Pro?
How does BB run on it? Does it have 4k? 1080p@60fps?
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>>163338870
>Also a Fire Circle gem from a Bone Ash Hunter, too bad it's utterly useless
Yeah I've got a bolt circle gem

I get slow/rapid poison, arcane, fire, bolt, adept, kin/beast gems fairly often from watchers when savescumming, but never a nourishing or blood gem
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>>163339069
No to all of that. There would need to be a big update for the game that From probably doesn't have any interest in doing.
IIRC 60fps had a tendency to break DaS when people were raising the fps cap on PC back when it was relevant. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same for BB.
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should i buy a ps4 slim for bloodborne

I'm very tired of dark souls 3, but i can't go back to 2 because of the controls

I guess what I'm really asking, is it more enjoyable than dark souls 3?
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>>163339841
Yes, DkS3 was a step down from BB imo. Several people here have gotten a Ps4 just for Bloodborne and didn't regret it.
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>>163339841
It's on the same level as the original das or DeS.
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>>163329738
You can do the same with waste of skin
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>>163339841
BB is probably one of the best ''experiences'' FROM have ever delivered. It's in the same ballpark as DeS/DaS. Let's not fuck about here, BB was likely in production before DaS2/DaS3 and the love and attention put into the game shows. It's as simple as that

It's a fantastic journey for casual players who run the game once, or for autistic players who farm gems and spelunk chalice dungeons

I prefer tryhard PVP in DaS3 because of factors like equipment weight, rolling distance, casting time, offhand weapon combos, differences in shields, poise (now), ringswapping etc. but BB PVP is still great fun either murdering randoms in the Frontier or duelling /bbg/ unzippers
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>>163338228
>5 Bloodtinge
I wonder if he went bl 250 just to use that.
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>>163338228
27 str 44 arcane 50 vit?

What the heck is this build.
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>Shadows of Yharnam on severly underleveled build
>going smooth
>about to finish katananigger
>hit him when he's about to hit me
>doesn't register
>die

HAHAHAHAHA, FLAWLESS GAME DESIGN! FUCKING RETARDED NIPS AND THEIR SPAGHETTI CODE!!!!
Guess I'll just farm axe-giants and pump my ARC up to 20 so I can bypass all the flaws those fucking ricemonkeys overlooked in the game, oh boy, sure will be fun to spam EG!!!

THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING TRASH, HOLY SHIT!!!
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>>163341419
>He doesn't know about hyperarmor
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>>163341419
>not stomping them with your league bros
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>>163341617
>plays like a mashing retard
>gets greedy
>punished
>Mad at devs
Seems about right.
git gud
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>>163341419
>>163341617
>being this shit
gid gud and stop shitposting
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>>163341617
Please tell be you're just pretending to be retarded.
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> it's fooking real
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>>163341745
I bet you don't even know what rallying is.
>>163341771
git gud at programming so I can fix this mess of a code?
>>163342006
>hurr ad hom just pretending hurrrrr
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>>163342164
>rally
Hold up, you tell me you play bad, get hit, and then get hit AGAIN because you couldn't hold your horses with rushing in? Timing, boi.
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>>163342164
I'll take that as a "yes". Good job on the (you)s.
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>>163342629
I bet you enjoy dragging every boss fight out 20 minutes, I don't have time for that shit, I've played this mess of a game enough times that I can't be assed to be an autist like yourself. I just want to get this build done asap so I can rape little bitches like you in PvP ;) fucking scrub

>>163342742
>just trolling guyze, just trolling!!!! look at how much im projecting! guys, he's troll! ex deeee
faggot
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>>163342164
>>163342889
>blamig the code for dying to snake club
>can't finish them in 5 minutes without getting hit and needs to spam R1 to get health back
Go back to playing pokemon or whatever kids do these days.
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>>163343086
>these shitty adhoms
opinion discarded :^)
talk shit noob, you probably haven't gotten past Gascoigne.
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>>163343172
>>163343086
>>163342889
>>163342742
>>163342629
>>163342164
>>163342006
>>163341771
>>163341745
>>163341663
>>163341617
>>163341473
Stop responding you retards, are you guys seriously this mongoloid? Don't feed the troll.

>>163341419
gj master bait
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>>163343249
But the general is dead and I'm bored
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>>163343450
go outside?
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>>163343619
But anon it's cold outside.
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>>163343450
I wish discord vermin would identify themselves in FCs
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>>163344515
Demon's Souls isn't good for fuck sake, it's just nostalgia, the map layout is terrible, the controlls unrefined, the story meh, the balance SHIT!
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Am I right in thinking that the best BLT circular gems drop from shotgun fatties guarding levers in layer 1-2 of FRC Ihyll? What about BSB in FRC Lower Loran?
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>>163345445
Suck my dick dude
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>>163345845
y592byza first bonus room is a better farming spot for 31.5% gems. FRC BSB gems are better for Blunderbuss.
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>>163345916
Offline mode poorfag so I can't use glyphs, but thanks. I'll just run random dungeons until I find a shotgun fatty.
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Anyone about to fight Ludwig? I wanna fight Ludwig.


>>163345445
DeS is not only good, it's the best Souls game.

The definitive hierarchy is:

DeS > BB ≥ DaS > DaS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS2
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What is the best bleed gem?

I know Isz Watchers drop 21.7 bleed, but Loran Silverdogs can drop 19.1 + flat bleed

Anyone know how much that flat bleed is on a perfect rating 19 gem?

Can't test atm, but I'm working on an Imposterfu cosplay poison build

I'm also a major autist when it comes to perfect flat bonuses
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>>163347464
Scorpion RP gems are around +16 and come in Radial in Ihyll. They're good enough and easy to farm with non-Phys damage. Find a glyph with several of them bunched together, getting Triangles and Wanings are a bit easy from them. Or settle with 2 Scorpion Radials and a Silverbeast Waning if you aren't lucky with Isz Watchers dropping an RP Triangle.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>163347838
What are you referring to?
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>>163347956
The necklace.
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>>163347018
What the FUCK is better in DeS than say DaS1 other than your nostalgia fagging?
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>>163348189
The plot, for one.
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>>163348189
You've been shitposting for hours, aren't you tired yet?
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>>163347829
Yeah I know there's other options available, but I'm thinking of farming two offshapes from Loran Silverdog so I'm rocking triple 19.1 + X flat on a minimum stats chikage. Could probably bleed someone in one hit depending on resistances and doesn't require 50 blt

I used a bleed wheel in an FC a few weeks ago with mediocre gems and it did pretty well
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>>163348256
>fuck man, demons n shit, some old god has made FOG that does spoopy stuff
>let's abuse it's powers and doom humanity lmao
>oh no, it went to hell
>kill these 5 demons to save world
Also something about babies in hijabs that keeps the world alive.

It's shit bro, it has no deeper meaning, no references, nothing.

Atleast DaS touches themes such as time as a circle, what is good and what is bad, letting go and shit like that, but DeS is just "DUDE, DEMONS, LMAO!"
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>>163348189
>>163348256
>>163349302
>>163349480

When did /bbg/ become /v/?
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Annoys me how DaS babbies shit on DeS nonstop, while DeS nostalgiafags hype DeS up too high. I feel that the true quality of the game is misjudged

Played them all in order and I'd say:

DaS >= BB > DeS > DaS3 (even if DLC2 is God-tier with Gertrude, Gwynevere, Kaathe/Frampt, Londor, Yuria's final sister, fucking original Titanite God etc. etc. it will still only be "this" good) > DaS2
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>>163345445
Salty mustards still trying to say DeS and BB are the worst games, lol
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/dsg/ pls fucking go
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>>163349802
BB is the shit, DeS is just shit.
I expected no less about your reading comprehension, lucifag.
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>>163349541
Sometimes one faggot is enough to ruin the balance.
They always go away fortunately.
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>>163350034
>DeS is just shit.
Aw, he said it again.
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Grant us eyes, grant us eyes.

anyone have the shitposter king macro of our guy?
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Why are faggots allowed to create generals?
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So why does Lucifer post with a trip? What does the fact that we can identify him add to the general's quality?
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>>163350290
You argue like a little girl, what is it you like about DeS that BB or DaS doesn't do better?
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>>163350525
It's so we can filter him so we don't have to listen to his retarded shit.
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>>163350529
Wut? Did you even see my ranking?

DaS > DeS >= BB
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There's this fucking stairs clip away from the platform in the Chalice Dungeon on the drying lake, how am I supposed to get up?
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>>163350649
Fucking faggot, why you talking about DeS then?
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So why is the school of mensis and the choir on bad terms? I was under the impression that the Healing Church was a monolith.
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>>163350828
Follow the links back through the conversation, kiddo.
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>>163350953
Because Mensis attempted to kill the entirety of Yharnam
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>>163351094
So why did they go so rogue? Were they influenced by a great one or was it just another example of travesty and slaughter in the name of knowledge?
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>>163351218
They wanted to ascend at all costs and generally had more arcane knowledge than the rest of the Healing Church because they studied at Byrgenwerth.
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Is it worth doing a pure skill build?
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>>163351327
It didn't work though. Micolash went mad in the nightmare and everyone is dead.
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>>163351334
Best PvP build. See: >>163329549
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>>163351334
Of course.
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>>163351407
Nothing ever worked in the story.
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>>163351491
I thought the blood treatments actually did heal people though. The player character ascends too./
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>>163351538
>I thought the blood treatments actually did heal people though
And then they became monsters.
You do ascend but the implications are unknown. None of the Great Ones seems to be having a good time anyway, except for the Amygdalas maybe.
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What's the safest way to deal with OoK second phase when you're using a slow weapon?
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>>163351642
What weapon exactly?
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>>163351607
>And then they became monsters.
Not everyone and not instantly.

Yeah but it worked. I like to think that the school of mensis dying and the moon presence being out of our hair is a boon to everyone.
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That's it. I'm coming back to Bloodborne after a year.

Evens - skill build
Odds - str/arc
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>>163351607
Moon Presence had a pretty good time until you come along. Maybe Oedon too, he just can't stop impregnating people.
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>>163351824
Moon Presence was having a terrible time because they kidnapped Mergo, that's why he summons you in the first place.

>>163351785
Healing blood didn't work in the long run. I'm sure that none of the patients wanted to become a drooling beast.
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>>163350953
Probably differences between ideology. I also suspect Micolash was a shady cuck who wanted to pursue his own agenda with complete freedom

The School of Mensis are very much obsessed with Mergo, while the Choir are more interested in their own projects - finding Ebrietas in Isz, making contact with the cosmos through the ayy project etc.

The Choir basically have their fingers in every pie and know pretty much everything what's going on in Bloodborne-verse. Probably only the most obscure things like Gehrman's Dream, Kos Nightmare and the Mensis Ritual were unknown to them (until too late), and I still reckon they have a suspicion

It might sound like splitting hairs, but the schisms and political evolution of the Healing Church is incredible and gives us several very interesting and likeable factions. You start with the original Burgerworth schism, the early operations of the Healing Church, the failures and triumphs inbetween, then even the Healing Church having its own schism, while the original players are still in the game. By comparison the Church of the Deep are Saturday morning villains (I still love DaS3)
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I just got to unseen village post Rom. Holy fucking shit. The frame rate drops are un-fucking-real. Is it my PS4 or is this "normal"
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>>163352226
I played BB both on an old fat PS4 and a Slim and didn't notice anything of the sort.
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>>163352453
I have seen frame rate drops but never frame rate drops this bad till I got to unseen village. This area is fucking disgusting. This reminds me of unpatched blight town
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>>163349682
I can agree with this.

t. >>163347018
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>>163352591
Never had problems with that particular area, framerate is the last of its issues.
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>>163353969
Whelp guess my ps4 is busted. Time to get the pro
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>>163354042
>buying another PS4
One is garbage enough.
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>>163354079
I still want to play P5
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>>163352591
That's normal if you're new. You'll get used to the shitty framerate.
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Fuck Winter Lanters 180 cone grab. Frenzy is a bullshit mechanic.
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Let's fight orphan? Pw, bbg
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>>163358709
Are you by the fog or lantern?
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>>163358863
Fog
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>>163358897
omw
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>>163358897
Are you the vileblood?
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>>163359365
No, new pw, tile
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I don't like Laurence.
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Rip orphan
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>>163354079
>>163354042
Isn't like the Playstation 5 coming out relatively soon or something?
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Amy is so fucking boring to fight. I just had a 15 minute fight since it kept stomping rather than jumping whenever I'm behind it, is there any way to make it not fucking stomp in the future?
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>>163329146
99.

>>163329738
You don't need to be 98.
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>>163339131
Why the fuck do you savescum watchers?
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>>163361236
Don't stand next to its feet?
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>>163362294
Just like my Chinese cartoons, he's not really that special at anything but he has so much heart and determination
>>
Anyone up to help with Ailing Loran Abhorrent Beast? Password is bbg, will ring when I get a reply.
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>>163363390
sure omw
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>>163363605
Thank you.
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What the fuck were they smoking when they programmed Ebrietas' charge? Idiotic bullshit.
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Going to be doing Defiled Pthumeru, would somebody be willing to help with the bosses as I get to them?
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Anybody want to coop on ds3?
Nobody on ps4 uses /dsg/
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>>163365274
The only reason the boss is hard is because of broken hitboxes with the tentacles. It's just a really badly designed boss all around.
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>>163365936
>>163365274
>Ebrietas
>hard

Are you locking on?
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>>163366271
>you're gamers aren't you?
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>>163366271
I wish the combat in this game wasn't fucking awful. Please stop shilling it everywhere.
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>>163366271

>Farming Simulator the game

Dude no, I'll wait until the game is old and they fix a lot of shit
>>
>been a "no summons" fag since forever
>probably played through Bloodborne over 40 times
>finally say fuck it and summon some NPC's for Shadows because fuck it
>it was... actually hilarious

I stood in a corner parryspamming the shit out of katanadude while madaras younger twin spammed axespin on candledude and Henryk RAPED that last one. It was hilarious. Don't know why I've never summoned before...
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>>163366041
Doesn't matter, your chances of winning depend entirely on how many times her AI decides to charge. It's completely random whether you manage to dodge it, and all her attacks cannot be rolled through due to the tentacles hitting you after your i-frames have ended. It's just shitty design, nothing else.
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>>163366880
You know, in worst case scenarios even, the charge isn't a 1hitko, just facetank it and you will survive. Retard.
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>>163366880
I know this is bullshit because I've literally never died to her and half the time she's so clunky and huge that she can't keep up with just walking around her. If you don't lock on, the way you dodge and move isn't limited to certain directions and her tentacles can't touch you.

Assuming you have a fast weapon to attack with.
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>>163366880
>>163367208
I forgot to mention, I agree the boss is shittily designed but for the opposite reason. She can't get a hit in if you just walk and hug her sides and it's disappointing.
>>
Anyone want to help me with defiled hot dog? Password is bbg.
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>>163367434
Sure, let me boot up and I'll be right with you.
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>>163367606
I'll be just a bit, I need to find the lever but I am speed running.
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>>163365464
I'll be home in about 20 minutes, what are you looking to do m8?
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>>163367208
>>163367338
I've died to her a ton because I didn't know that you could just hug her side.

Regardless, my point still stands that the boss fights is a clunky piece of shit and that the tentacle attacks are literally impossible to dodge through, meaning that fighting her using conventional tactics relies heavily on luck.
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>>163367791
Just run through the start
I get bored before Vordt and just end up deleting the save, then if I get to undead settlement I get lost
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>>163367606
>>163367726
>Forgot to set password

Gotta help this random first, be with you soon.
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>>163368206
Godspeed, anon.
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>>163368107
Fair enough so, where should I should put my sign down? Pass? I should be with you in a few minutes.
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>>163368206
Ha, I did not realize you were filthy executioner scum. I will go switch runes.
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>>163368762
>Being a fucking Vileblood

Disgusting. I might as well stop ringing now.
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>>163366271
>You're gamers, aren't you?
This attitude is what turned me off more than anyhting else.
That isnt to say the game does not have plenty of other shit that turns me away...
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>>163368847
>>163368847
You carried that fight, thank you so much. I will be doing Amy shortly, if you are willing to help. I'll try and level some Vit so I don't get one shot too.
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>>163368516
Wanna drop me your psn? I'm having a little bit of lag at the moment
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>>163369640
Sure thing, I'm DowtheOrganic
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>all these blue pilled anti-church cucks
>>
What's it like? Being a beast, I mean.
>>
Anyone up for Defiled Amy? Password is bbg.
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>>163370728
Get fucked Laurence.
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>mfw some say Kosm
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>>163372159
>filthy Kosposters
I pity the beastly idiots.

AWOOOOOOO
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>>163372314
>>163372159
I wonder how he would be as a poster.
>>
I know you're a scum-sucking Vileblood and all, but c'mon man, it's not that hard.

Also please stop summoning Queen Killer, he's shitty in this fight and doesn't do much beyond give Amygdala more health.
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>>163372606
All shitposting, all the time
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>>163362415
Because it's faster to get perfect gems
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>>163372849
What can I say, I'm shitty at this game. I did not know he buffed Amy though, so I'll not summon him.
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>>163372606
Who says he doesn't already post here?
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>>163372849
>>163372980
Got room for one more?
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>>163373260
You bet your sweet ass.
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>>163373298
pass is bbg, right?
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>>163373370
Yes, we are at the fog room.
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>>163373241
No one makes nonsensical posts about the great ones and the need for eyes.
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>>163373370
>>163372849
Thank you kindly, I don't think I would have ever been able to do that on my own.
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>>163373781
>Filthy Vileblood, unable to surpass chalice dungeons, needs the help of two strong Executioners

I am unsurprised.

Happy to help, those two are fun bosses.
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>>163373925
>Church dog Executioner scum acting as if they're hot shit
As expected. Bless the Healing Church and all, right?
>>
Is there any reason to upgrade a gun one is only using for parrying and not for damage?
>>
>>163374482
To satisfy your 'tism if not having all +10s bothers you.
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>>163374482
Upgrading it once gives it a gem slot, which you can put a pulsing gem in to get slow health over time. It's nothing spectacular, but it's nice to be able to set your controller down to go do something and come back to a full healthbar.
>>
>>163374482
If you have a bunch of blood chunks and rocks lying around and nothing to do with them.
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>>163349480
>re-light the flame
>oh no it's dying again
or
>let it die
>lol there will always be a spark for a new flame
>your actions or lack thereof are entirely meaningless
>muh cycle
Wow it's so deep and meaningful
>>
Can i get some help with Defiled Watchdog of Old Lord?
glyph: wma2
pass: hotdog
>>
>>163350325
This one?
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>>163374641
>responding to a 7 hour old post
Are you retarded?
>>
>arcane
>bloodtinge
>end past 15
Stop posting if you do any of these things.
>>
>>163375663
Don't you like stunlocking?
>>
>using blood vials
>lighting lamps
>using the "o" button
Stop posting if you do any of these things.
>>
>>163375663
>being a build faggot
>>
>>163375912
>actually playing video games
What a fucking dweeb
>>
Who's up for Lower Loran Abhorrent Beast?

Pass is bbg
>>
Should I level to 15arc for the shell or should I just use fire/shock papers?
>>
>>163376208
If you care about min maxing for PvP, no but if not, go for it. You will also be able to use other tools.
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>>163376151
omw, let's hope SRRC doesn't take forever
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>>163376671
Alright, I am waiting.
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If tricked chikage has innate bleed of 30, does that mean it would take 4 hits to bleed someone?

Because with some extended cursed dirty gem farming I'm sure I can get 100+ bleed

Would that bleed someone in one hit?
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>>163375663
What's the correct way to play the game?
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>>163377182
Turn it off and shitpost on /bbg/, apparently.
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>Defiled Watchdog
>>
What's a viable Chikage build?
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>>163377112
>bleed
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>>163377504
One that uses the Bloodletter instead.
>>
>>163377504
50 vit
50 blt
base skl because untricked is shit
15 arc so you can anime step
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>>163377621
Thanks
>>
>>163377621
is anime step even worth using ever?
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>>163362294
This build actually looks like it would be quite fun. Like playing at BL4 but with basically infinite stamina. You probably never have to stop your dodging and comboing and heavy attacking and sprinting, like ever. Also it would make shields actually viable
>>
>>163377323
Boop him on the nose like you would any misbehaving pupper
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Anyone up for Loran Darkbeast in Lower Loran? Pass is bbg.
>>
>>163378519
If you're willing to wait a few minutes, I'll be with you as soon as I can.
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>>163378805
Of course, just reply to this post when you are here.
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>>163377112
With 50 rapid poison on my Wheel I can "bleed" people in one or two dash r1's (which hit 3 times). If someone has 150 poison resist it takes 150 poison build up to poison them.

Many bosses have 180 rapid poison resist. So if you can get 60+ on a Wheel you can poison them in one hit.
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>>163377919
Considering 40 END gives basically the same amount of stamina you could do that same playstyle and also have 50 Vit
>>
How viable is a 99END build?
>>
>>163379670
Somewhere between almost and okay.
>>
im making a 40/40 skl/blt build using pallash and chikage, which imprints/gems are best?
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>>163380375
>40/40 skl/blt
don't
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>>163378519
Anyone? This camera is abysmal and I whiff moe than half of my attacks.
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>>163380375
40/40 is shit.
If you want the Chikage use base Skill and 50BLT
If you want the Reiter base Blood and 50 Skill.
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>>163378852
>>163380861
Sorry for the wait, I'll be ringing my small res shortly.
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>>163380375
>>163380945
Stop being a fucking faggot and be helpful anon.

For your Reiter you want base imprints: Radial x2 and a triangle

If it's full blood Chikage you want a Lost variant: Radial x2 Circle (I know that's the variant but I forget the actual imprints.)
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>>163380964
No worries, boss. I will be near the fog.
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>>163380964
You might be the only reason I finish this build in time for the FC on saturday. Thanks again for the help.
>>
Can arcane use boomhammer or is the arcane scaling trash and I should keep using saw spear until kos parasite?
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>>163381143
ok thanks man
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>>163382069
Boom hammer is hot garbage for pure arc
They should have made it so it only extinguishes on a charge attack
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>>163381903
>Another Chikage in the fight club
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>>163382882
I will be maining the BoM, don't worry. The chikage is just my boss killer.
>>
if a weapons durability reaches 0, does it just break and permanently leave your inventory?
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>>163383108
No, it just suffers a massive damage penalty to the point of being useless until you repair it.
>>
>>163381143
I was being helpful. If he wants to use both forms of the weapons he should go 50/50 or at least soft cap one of them and use the normal versions with three 27%s.
I might be wrong on this but I thought that for pure blood damage you would need to farm off shapes, in this case the version of the weapon would be random.
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I JUST CAN'T STOP
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Requesting help for aboriginal beast at loran layer 3. Pass is spider
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>>163387101
sure omw
>>
>>163387396
Thanks noble hunter. He's boring as hell to fight alone.
>>
>died 3 times to Orphan during co-op
Man, it feels awful to be a complete waste of the host's time and insight. I have no clue what's going on today.
>>
>>163388101
Maybe you just need to take a little break, when I play for too long I start sucking dick personally, but the next day my skill is renewed.
>>
>>163388101
I second this>>163388230

A bit of a break renews the hoontah's skill
>>
>first time against Orphan
>bring him to 20-30% health
>dickhead of a friend can't accept that I will beat him first try and makes me die
>proceed to die another 30 times before calling it a day
>beat him on second try next morning
And that's why you don't invite friends to your home.
>>
>>163382069
If you have 25/50 Str/50 it's good with Nourishings. But a fire converted weapon will be better for PvE
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>>163361236
keep a slight distance at the tip of it's tail
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is it a waste to spend 60 insight on a blood rock if you don't have PS+?

With PS+ you can just get them from chalice dungeons using glyphs, right? Then just keep destroying and remaking the same dungeon with the same glyph?
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>>163389989
It's never a waste until you've +10 everything worth getting to +10. You can use glyphs only once per dungeon type for each character. So only 3 can be gotten from CD's besides the chance of dropping from layer 3-4 bosses.
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>>163389989
What else are you going to use insight for? Blood rocks also only spawn once per glyph
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>>163389989
I think you can get one rock from pthumeru, one from Loran and one from isz
After that you have to buy them
Trying to get a second rock from the same dungeon will just get you a wisdom
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>>163390176
>>163390186
>>163390235
Which one is it? One per glyph, dungeon type or random boss drop regardless of doing the dungeon before?
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>>163390875
From personal experience, it was with a glyph. I assume if you input a different glyph that has a known blood rock, it will have it's own. If you repeat a glyph, I know the rock is replaced.
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Can someone help me beat the wet nurse? I'm trying to beat my first playthrough before I have to work tomorrow. I'm level 56.
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>>163390186
>What else are you going to use insight for?
sometimes I just need one more blood stone chunk to get to +9, and I already have a blood rock ready to immediately go up to +10 from there
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>>163390875
Per dungeon type, you have to use glyphs obviously. Layer 3-4 bosses have a chance of dropping Rocks but it's not guaranteed. There's 3 types, so you'll have to input 3 different glyphs that have a Blood Rock in a chest. Without PS+, you'll have to make your own dungeons and hope they'll have a Blood Rock.
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>>163391105
I'll come help, what's the pass and where should I ring my bell, anon?
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>>163390875
You can get infinite blood rocks from layer three and four bosses in depth five dungeons, but you can only get one blood rock per chalice type per character from a sarcophagus. That means there are five guaranteed rocks between chalices, the main game and the DLC, plus however many you can get from spending insight gained throughout playing and by consuming pickups, plus however many if you grind depth five chalices/spelunk a lot.

You usually get more than enough rocks just by playing to +10 all of your primary weapons, though you will have to crunch out more insight and rocks if you want to have an arsenal of like twelve different weapons.
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>>163391231
I'm setting the password to be 12345 and I'm right outside the fog gate to the wet nurse. I don't quite understand the mechanics of online in this game compared to DaS but I'll ring the bell after I set the pass code.
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>Fighting Pthumerian Descendant
>Descendant keeps throwing its heat seeking swords through the pillars
>Keep getting stuck near the damn pillars and dying
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>>163391706
All you need to do is make sure you've set the matchmaking to Worldwide, set the password and ring your beckoning bell, it consumes one insight to do so. I ring my small resonant bell in the same location, I get summoned to you. I didn't get it at first, but it's actually pretty simple.
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>>163392004
Ok I wasn't sure if exact location was a factor. I'll be waiting hopefullyit works.
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>>163392190
It goes by general area, it's sometimes very generous, but it's best to be in the same area as each other. Just make sure there isn't a little x on the bell symbol under your health and stamina bar. If all's good, we should connect in a minute or two.
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If I were to make a build focusing on endgame coop, with the lower end of summoning range being 98, I could level to 137, right?
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>>163392752
Yep
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>tfw 99% of your friendlist is from /bbg/ or random Bloodborne co-op
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Anyone up for Ihyll Pthumerian Descendant?. Pass is bbg.
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>>163393346
On me way boyo
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Anyone want to do chalice ebby?
Pass is bbg.
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>>163393346
Post HMPH meme pls
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>parrying Keeper of the Old Lords in a circular arena
This silly bastard goes out of bounds every damn time. That, or she flies up against the wall and falls back down.
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>>163393846
I wish I had it, boss.

>>163393730
Sounds good, boya.
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Gonna be doing headless bloodletting beast in Ihyll layer 2 if anyone wants to come with.

Pass is bbg.

>>163394024
>>163393730
Thanks for that, you slippery bastard.
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>>163393846
HMPH

>>163394290
Glad to wreck that grunting bastard's shit any day of the week, my man

Be with you for beastlord in a sec
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>doing and Isz root dungeon
>fight Amy in a small room with a bunch of pillars that don't get destroyed
Pain in the ass. Almost as bad as the undead giant with one shot chain swings.
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>>163393846
HMPH
M
P
HMPH
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>>163394749
Thanks, just let me know when you are ringing.
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>>163395879
I'm ringadingin
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>>163395915
Strange, it won't let me ring any other bells and the fog is up but nobody is getting summoned.
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>>163396419
You have Insight, right? You must from the HMPH fight.
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>>163396701
I don't know why it would not work, but I managed to solo it. Thank you for trying to help and I am sorry for wasting your time.
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>>163396903
Weird man, but no worries, I was glad to help earlier on
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Anyone want to help with headless blb?
Pass is bbg
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>>163398685
Story or farming?
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>>163398743
Story
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>>163398808
I have the chalice open, I'll come give you a hand. I'll be ringing at fog.
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>>163398808
ah shit sorry, I hope you got it.
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That almost went well!
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>>163399218
That went much better.
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>>163399445
It did. Thanks for the help.
You're welcome to join me for Yharnam if you want.
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Can i get a summon for undead giant?
Lower pthumeru

Pass 888 ringing at lamp
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>witch of hemwick
What the FUCK
How do you beat this shit?
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>>163401116
Ringing
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>>163401236
Spend all your insight.
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>>163401269
On my way! Had to repair weapon
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>>163401236
If you only attack the witch and ignore the mopheads, you will only have one of them spawn
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>>163401236
>Run away from spooky being
>Find and hit witch

Failing that just spend all your insights.
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>>163401236
>Dying to Hemwick Witch
>Literally ever

That's like dying to Pinwheel.
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Thanks anon
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>>163401576
I once got knocked down by a Hemwick Witch AoE, immediately dodge rolled into a second one and died.
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>>163401361
I already spent it all on my bell
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>>163401757
If you have 0 insight the spooky beings don't spawn and you just play hide and seek with the witches
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>>163401236
>Dying to Witches
How? I didn't even know it was possible to die to them.
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tips for orphan? i'm at my wit's end
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>tfw Bloodborne lore isn't that fun or interesting as the story is pretty explicit
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>>163401992
Is this an edit of Texhnolyze?
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>>163402036
Get in his face from your left and r1 a few times and dodge. Stay close to him.
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>>163395750
Dude is easy as hell to parry
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>>163401236
Once you get the first witch down to about a quarter health, start looking for the other one
Once you find her, charge attack her in the ass repeatedly but don't visceral
Once she dies, quickly finish the first witch and you can avoid phase 2 altogether
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>>163402050
DeS was even worse about that. Part of why I liked dark souls better
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>>163402050
>story is pretty explicit

Only if you've been lorefagging on /bbg/ for a year. It's pretty fuckin obtuse otherwise, and who or what people and these giant alien monsters are makes no sense to newbies, and even then, there's people here who will argue details. It's no wonder people come on here asking what the story is constantly.
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Someone help me bully maria. Pass is bbg
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>>163340281
>scas
good shit
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>>163406113
omw
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>>163406113
>>163406798
are you still ringing?
i'm not getting anything
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>>163407136
Yeah I'm right outside the fog door.
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>>163407460
doesnt seem like it's gonna work out
are you set to worldwide?
if so then it seems like it wont work any time soon
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Does anybody want to fight maria with me ? I'm BL 50 .
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>>163407890
why are you fighting maria at bl50?
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>>163408632
I wanna get kos parasite as quickly as i can
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>>163407852
I had it on local so don't know what the issue was. I managed to bully her on my own though. Thanks for trying to help.
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>>163409037
i feel your pain anon
i can't play now but i can help you tomorrow if you still don't get help
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>>163409037
If you have enough arc for kos, you have enough arc for the tentacle tickle
You can do it, it's just like in your Japanese cartoons
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>>163409208
ah, you were supposed to set that to worldwide
glad to hear you beat her own your own though, guess you didnt need my help after all
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>>163409037
>had to solo orphan for 43 twink
I don't wish such a fate on anyone
I can help you when I get off work in a few hours
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Finally killed Ludwig. Jesus, that fight was intense.
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>>163409435
That sounds rough anon . i could barely beat him at bl 65
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>>163409713
Took me the better part of a Saturday. Then I watched some guy flawless him at bl4 on ng+7 and wept
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>>163409258
Hopefully i can beat maria before then
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>>163409793
Was it lobos ?
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>>163409351
Oh, I though it would be faster with local. Thanks, there's always a sweet feeling when bullying maria to death.

>>163409875
If you're doing an arc build just spam augur and have the QS recovery rune. It's how I just beat her.
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>>163410036
I don't think so
I think it was that guy who fisted twin pursuers to death in DaS2
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>just beat Ludwig for the first time
Holy shit that felt really good. I'll never look at a horse the same way again though.
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>>163411235
Eh, same here like 30 minutes ago.
I got lucky dodging his laser sword attacks.
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Tfw you're still on maria
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>didn't get the dreg
at least I have my pride h-haha
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>>163413748
Love it when they pull the plug
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>>163414112
almost as good as fanmail
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>>163413748
Post more webms
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>>163414450
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Just so I'm clear, in order to purchase Rit Blood (5) from the bath shop, you only have to have cleared a depth five dungeon, right? Or does it have to be Pthumeru Ihyll?
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>>163414676
As far as I'm aware you can only purchase Ritual Blood 5 from the shop in NG+, same with Bastards of Loran.
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I want to make a blade of mercy/ burial blade build. How important is END for mercy? I assume it would take a lot for the multi-hits.

Is this good enough
Vit 32
End 16
Str 10
Skl 50
BT 5
Arc 35

Any points I need I'd take out of Arc or Skl. Thoughts?
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>>163414676
Wait

I'm an idiot, disregard.
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>>163414753
>35 ARC
Why? The ARC component of the Burial Blade and Blades of Mercy is almost nonexistent. They function better as straight SKL weapons and you should be allocating your stats as such.
50 VIT, 15 END, 10 STR, 50 SKL, maybe 15 ARC if you wanna use the Anime Dodgebone.
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>>163414753
Arc is pretty much useless for either of those weapons
Keep it at 15 for Maria's shin
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>>163414753
BoM barely uses any End for the R1s, I don't think it has multi-hits. Get Vit to 40-50. They both scale horribly with Arc so you don't need any Arc investment, 15 for Old Hunter Bone and other Hunter Tools is fine. 18 for Augur. Base-20 End, 15 is the sweetspot. Just make sure you have at least 40 Vit.
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>>163414973
Is there a particular reason everyone says 15 end?
Seems like just some arbitrary number
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>>163415101
15 END is a good place to stop at because it gives you a decent amount of stamina, with or without Stamina runes, and if you need more you can just throw on another rune. Usually, 15 END + 20% Stamina rune is enough unless you're using heavy weapons like the Kirkhammer, Boomhammer or Amygdalan Arm.
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What should i use until i get the bloodletter?
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>>163415176
Should I point more points in Arc if I plan to use MLGS?
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>>163414849
>>163414904
>>163414973
Thx family I figured the 30AR bonus might be worth it, good to know.

Should I just use the cane until I finish her quest? Should I even finish her quest? Is her covenant worth it over regular invasions?

I'm coming from Souls games so sorry about the entry level questions
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>>163415101
Like I said, it's just a sweetspot. Probably because 20 End sounds high and 15 looks more appealing than a base number like Cruel Fate's 12. Base with a Stam Rune is fine for both, Burial Blade's L2s do take a great amount of stamina though so if you want to use it extensively I'd imagine 20 should suffice.
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>>163415331
The rune is good because it increases your stamina regen rate. Faster stamina regen is always good.
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>>163415269
Bowblade, Chikage, or a Saw with BB Pellets and Papers.
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>>163415331
The covenant rune doesn't affect PvP, so it doesn't matter. Cane is good, you can use it or just kill her for the BoM. Sell Doll Clothes for quick money if you don't have enough, or farm the echoes. Most Covenant Runes don't have benefits that greatly impact you, Eileen's boost stamina regen but it's hardly noticeable.
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>>163415463
spear or cleaver?
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>>163415837
Whichever fancies you.
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Strength = 25
Skill = 12
Endurance = 15
Vitality = 25
Arcane = 14
Bloodtinge = 5
Level = 46

Right now I'm in the Forbidden Woods
I am using Saw Cleaver

Where should I allocate my stats?
Should I go for Whirligig Saw or Holy Moonlight Sword when I do the DLC?
What level should I start DLC?
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>>163416924
I did the dlc around 80 but just go in whenever it feels comfortable.
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>>163417005
What stats should I allocate to reach 80?
Should I go for whirligig or HMS?
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>>163416924
More Vit, aim for 40-50. Either 25/50 Str/Arc or 50/25 Str/Skl for both. 25/50 Str/Arc will require converting the Whirligig and your moonbeams will do great damage along side having decent Hunter Tool damage. 50/25 Str/Skl will require only Phys gems and your moonbeams won't do so great but the blade on HMS will do great damage, especially the untricked r2.
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>>163417108
Personally i'd bump up end to 15, str to thirty, and then put points into vit until you hit fifty.
>>
I hope the Chapel Dweller got a happy ending
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>>163417431
I can name with one hand the number of souls borne characters that got happy endings
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>>163417431
Not on any serious micolash cosplay he didn't
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>>163417363
>converting the Whirligig
Don't have ps+ so I can't go to online chalice dungeons to get arcane triangle gems
So I'll have to decide between a whirligig strength build or a HMS arcane + some strength build

>>163417363
>>163417394
How come Vit needs to be so high?
Do mobs hit much harder in DLC than what I've done in the game so far
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>>163417653
HMS can be used in a Strength build with little to no Arc. Just go 50/25/15+ Str/Skl/Arc. DLC hit pretty hard but you can do it with 30 Vit. 40-50 is mainly recommended for PvP, Cursed dungeons and NG+ cycles.
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>>163417653
>How come Vit needs to be so high?
This is what 30 Vit against the DLC bosses looks like. Minor spoilers obv.

41-50 Vit is really more about FRC chalices and PvP though, so, you may be able to do without as much. 41+ is still highly recommended.
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So far I've done a STR/SKL build and an ARC build. I'm looking for something different for my third playthough, any suggestions?

I still haven't beat Orphan of my ARC build, shit is borderline impossible.
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>>163420064
Try a BLT build or a STR/BLT build. Both are pretty fun.
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>>163417653
>How come Vit needs to be so high?
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>>163420064
28/15/50 Str/Skl/Blt for Chikage, Bowblade, Bloodletter, Church Cannon and Gatling Gun.
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the entire game is a shared dream
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>>163405669
After beating the game at least once, is till don't know the answer to these very basic question.
What is the Night of the Hunt?
What is it's significance?
Why are the people of yharnam out in the streets and hostile to you?
Is the night of hunt something that happens often?
Has it happened in Yharnam before?
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Is there a Bonfire Asectic type item in BB?
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>>163423675
I had one more, even more basic, question:
Why are you here, Yharnam, on this Night of the Hunt?

I had heard something about seeking a cure for some kind of sickness but I hadn't heard a single reference for this motivation within the game itself.
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>>163424163
*in Yharnam
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Does anyone have the sliders for a female Vileblood with black hair? I saw it posted a long time ago on /v/, she was kinda a MILF and she had black hair.
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>>163423675
I've never read any Lovecraft, but my understanding of his work/canon is that dreams create alternate plains of reality.

With that in mind, my two interpretations of BB are thus:
>You a person of indeterminate origin who has traveled to Yharnam for an indeterminate reason
>Upon reaching Yharnam, which is at this point presumably, seemingly normal, you undergo your first blood transfusion
>During this transfusion you are "recruited" into dream Yharnam, potentially never to wake up again in the real world

Theory 1:
>You "awaken" into dream Yharnam, which exists in a state of perpetual Night of the Hunt, which was an actual occurrence, during which the town would gather male volunteers and Church Hunters to go and find anyone potentially infected with Ashen Blood, and kill them
>The entire game and everything you do takes place in vary levels of dreams and alternate realities, the goal of the game being to "set right" Yharnam's history and reawaken in the real world (or dick it up and become a retarded slug baby, never to wake again, or stay plugged into the Matrix as a being of power and slaughter in a perpetual Night of the Hunt) by stopping the Church's ritual of beckoning the Great Ones and winding up as another Pthumeru

Theory 2:
>Unbeknownst to the player, you have arrived on a Night of the Hunt, as well as the night the Church decided to finally try and Beckon a Great One
>You have to traverse Yharnam, and plunge into the dreamworlds of various Great Ones and Mensis students to stop the Ritual, eventually saving Yharnam or winding up aforementioned slug monster or host of the Hunter's Dream, waiting for another person to take your place or break the cycle that you couldn't
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How long is this game compared to the other DS games?
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>>163424997
A bit shorter than DaS.
>>
ded
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anyone up for co-op?, I've started a new character and want to 100% the game as fast as possible sans chalices.

Ringing outside cleric beast, pass is bbg01
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I hate BB's MLGS.
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>>163425693
It's OK tier.
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>>163425693
but its the best its ever been
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>BL100
>Summoned for chalice Rom
>Not FRC Rom, just regular Pthumerian Rom
>Beckoner also summons Olek
>I get OHKO'd by one of the spiders after getting Rom to 50% alone
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>>163424163
They talked about it in pre-release interviews. You're a foreigner with a life-threatening disease and you've heard about Yharnam and their famous Healing Church. You don't know shit about the Hunt or the beasts when you arrive.

The only in-game evidence is the Foreign set and the very first cutscene with the blood minister.
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I farmed 60 ash hunters in adr for a pulsing gem. I got everything but the good one, did I missed something? Is it the good dungeon?
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Any of you fine lads wanna come help me put down the rape horse? Pass bbg, ringing right outside the fog.
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>>163430134
coming
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>>163424163
You are seeking paleblood, simple as that. What better place to look for blood than Yharnam?
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>>163429939
What pulsing gems do they drop, if any? I usually farm the tall fireball witches surrounded by mobs for +5 Circles, Bone Ash Hunters have a pretty shitty drop rate for specific gems.
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>>163430473
the radials
most sites say the best way is to farm adr hunters
so far, I've got 45 gems and no pulsing :/
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>>163430631
Oh yeah, the ones in 56428adr. Bone Ash Hunters are very stubborn, so farming them for those pulsing gems will take a while. Getting Arc Radials from them is a chore.
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>>163430631
In 200 tries I only got two usable arc radials while farming them and I think two pulsing at all, one of them was an off shape though.
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Level 50 need help against hmph in ihyll.
pass is hmph
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>>163324951
i appreciate you, thank you kind sir.
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>>163431468
No problem.
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When did Laurence and Gehrman beckoned the Moon Presence, before or after the fishing hamlet? And if after, before or after the healing church? We see knights in chalice dungeons so maybe they could deal with pthumerians and the like without being hunters.
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>>163432618
exploring the chalices dungeons is the basis of the hunters
first by gehrman, then by lawrence, ludwig & co
gehrman probably accessed the first chalices by studying (old) yharnam (run by the hidden pthumerian queen) habits and religion

the beckoning of the MP probably happened after the slaughter of fishing hamlet
gehrman probably took his umbilical cord (the one willem and byrgenwerth sought as a solution to interact with aliens (improving the linking of the brain with eyes)) from the surrogate of kos (as the pthumerian one was hidden in deepest part of the old labyrinth (accessed with greatest weapons (ludwig and co))

then the church developed the artificial creation of blue aliens, leading to more umbilical cords (more summoning from the MP (mergo, ...))
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>>163433046
>then the church developed the artificial creation of blue aliens, leading to more umbilical cords
I don't think the church ever figured into that. The three cords we find are:
1. The one in the Abandoned Workshop, the one stolen from Kos/Orphan and used to beckon MP.
2. The one from Mergo, beckoned by the school of Mensis
3. The one from Arianna that got knocked up by Oedon or something

All those are not related to whatever experiments the church was doing on people. Iirc the one time we see a church person trying to ascend with the usage of an umbilical cord is fake Iosefka.
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>>163433462
Dont we also get one from FauxIosefka?
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>>163433584
Ah, right, that too. I even mentioned her in my post, but forgot to list it, heh.

Now that I think about, maybe that one is the one stolen from Kos? It even mentions Willem, and Rom was given eyes by Kos, according to Micolash.
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Farming Amygdala for arcane gems is pretty cancer. How do I get it to consistently jump? Half the time it just tries to scratch behind/to the sides. Also sometimes I can't get behind it in time.
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>>163433960
Slap the tail a couple of times, try to position yourself in different spots near the tail. Oil Urns and a Fire Stake ends the fight pretty quick.
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>>163433960
What? Nigga just stand between its legs, not behind it.
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I don't think either of these dudes is telling the truth.
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>>163433462
oedon is the inivisible great one watching over new yharnam
the temple devoted to lawrence, first vicar (major), has sculptures of the oedon like beings
oedon is an amygdala

also, an umbilical cord comes from the breeding of a surrogate
the old surrogate of kos
the last surrogate of MP, mergo
then the human breeds as the cainhurst ones (arianna, probably leading to immortal beings) and fake iosefka/the choir ones (foetus then blue aliens), these one are probably coming from the ebrietas own way of breeding humans

>>163432618
in deep chalices, there're few kind of hunters
the regular one, with the hammer
the cainhurst one
the executioner one
the old hunter one, using the labyrinth equipment (bone ash)
at the end of the gehrman era (probably when he disappeared), hunters finished exploring deep chalices, then discovered the old queen yarhnam, understanding the whole secrets of the mystic city and then rebuilding a new one
new hunters receiving the paleblood in the new city were beckoned in the dream of gehrman, to improve, and the strongest ones, when not turning mad, helped each surrogate to extended the dream (mensis' nightmare)

finally the church can't be stopped, as it fully master the art of creating alternate dimension, and as it hides its king, the MP surrogate in the deepest realms.
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>>163433909
One cord for beckoning Moon Moon
One for Micolash to beckon Mergo
And one with Willem that probably was stolen by Imposefka, there's a choir hunter in Burgertown after all
The one with Arianna was fresh from the womb
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>>163434490
But Oedon is Gehrman
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amygdalan arm is the most boring weapon i've ever used
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Where can i find a decent triangle fire gem for my whirligig saw? Im level 55 and going through the forbidden woods
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Old Hunters really hard? Will I still be able to cheese with the lightning paper?
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>>163435105
>Bolt Paper is cheese

It adds like 80 AR, and with enemy defenses the damage output would be lower, which is why it's mostly useless for PvP. As for the DLC, it's the toughest part of the game aside from cursed dungeons.
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>>163435053
9.1% Nourishing Triangle in the cave leading to the back of the clinic iirc
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>game starts during a red moon
>red moon happens when a surrogate emerges
>weird cinematic after rom where the player crumbles watching the red moon next to the old queen, hearing baby cries
>the queen in mensis nightmare is a ghost watching for mergo
>every nightmare is slain when you kill the surrogate that created it, except for the dream where you've to kill MP
Everyone understands that the player is Mergo, the last surrogate, right? Alive, the nightmare you support is the Mensis' one, and the nightmare you slain at the end, by killing the MP is your own nightmare/dream, where you dream of your own world, created by the actions of your mentor, gehrman and the church. Micolash, your protector, jokes about it, "even in a dream a hunter (heir of gehrman) stays a hunter", and "I'm dying, I'll waking up (in reality (the same))".
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>>163434990
Tricked mode is kinda fun, and getting people with the untricked r2 follow-up is satisfying. At least it's not as boring as Tonitrus (and LHB in terms of design).
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>>163435634
What about Orphan?
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>>163322390
Willem didn't realize you need Blood and Insight, not one or the other.
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>>163435538
Awesome, and i can farm radials from layer 3 hotdog in the first chalice right?
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>>163434990
You've clearly never used tonitrus
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>>163435835
Yessir, they go from 8-10%. It's enough to get you through the game as long as you pump Vit and Arc.
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>>163435634
Hold up what?

If we the hunter are mergo, why do we only start hearing mergo crying when we reach mensis?

What happens when we wake up? (Let gehrman kill us)
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>>163434490
The fuck did I just read. That's the worst bloodborne fanfiction I read in a while.

>>163435634
I take back what I just said, that's worse.
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Guys I think I might be addicted to bloodborne. I just woke up and my first thought was to go play bloodborne. I was just playing it about 5 hours ago. It's all I've been doing this whole month.
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>Just got to the room with the 3 hunters in the unseen villages
>FPS drops
>3 hunters
Hahaha very funny From.
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>>163436586
Good, now post your lore theories about why Micolash wears the cage.
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>>163436854
real yahargul hours
smash dat o button
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>>163437001
Cheesed them with R2 charge at the top of the stairs and we played benny hill.

Fuck you From. That wasn't challenging or one bit fun.
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>>163437092
i've actually never bothered with them. it's such a stupid fight because you really can't do it legitimately, you have to cheese it.
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>>163437362
Now you know how bosses feel when people summon
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Does the PS4 thermal throttle?
Or just thermal shutdown?
Considering opening up my PS4 to clean if it is the former
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>>163437362
Doing it legit is kinda fun, Beast Claw usually goes down first. Just hit and run to the next one cycling through em.
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>>163437362
If by cheesing you mean focusing on one at a time while being careful to not get hit by the others and parrying whenever you have the chance then yeah, literally impossible.
git gud
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>>163437698
>Not clumping them at the stairways and hitting a sweet sweet charged up R2 and running around to the other side and doing it again

Git Gud
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>>163436095
you can hear the baby in yharnam, from the start of the game

if gehrman kills you or you kill him, the journey continues, until you wake up
if you kill MP, a paradox happens in your dream/nightmare, and then you're forcefully awakened

>>163436495
then what is the purpose of the dream, anon?
why does it holds 5 chalices tomb so you can explore them?
you really think gehrman was not a hunter, not friend of ludwig and co?
you think he was betrayed by them so they used the power of gods to build a new city?
nah, gehrman is fine with the new yharnam, he was the one to start the study of the pthumerians and of the great ones
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>>163437773
>playing like a shitter

Bet you were using LHB or Axe spin2win too
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>>163437773
>needs to abuse dumb AI to hit a charged R2
>thinks he's gud
Grant him eyes... Grant him eyes...
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>>163437973
Then why does the crying stop when you kill the wetnurse?
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>>163438042
>Most efficiency method is being a shitter

I solo'd the room on BL1 naked with my fist, upside down and blindfolded

KYS
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>>163438078
she's the nurse of the baby, do you think he'll survive without a protector/nurse?
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>>163438131
Ahh, KYS... or some say KYSM...
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why are there so many big bodies in the forbidden woods like in the cave
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Tell me about MIcolash, Why does he wear the cage?
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>>163425716
>>163425693
You people are fucking wrong. HMS is quite literally the best incarnation of the MLGS.
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I really wanna start a new proper character but im still at the orphan of kos on my first one.

What do I do? Do I just go for it and finish kos, laurence and the rest of the game on ng+ or do I just start over?
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>>163439089
If we pull that cage off, will he die?
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>>163439089
he's a big guy
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>>163439189
Just finish with Orphan. He's hell of a lot easier on NG than NG+. Then, start a new playthrough.
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>>163439217
It would be extremely majestic
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>>163439291
Oh you might have misunderstood. Im on ng+ with my first and only character, and in the dlc im at the orphan. I only really fought him once.
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>>163439472
Oh, in that case, I'd still recommend finishing. NG+ DLC is tough, though, and if it's giving you too much trouble, it's better to just start a new build, where you'll have more interest in continuing.
Try farming the Winter Lanterns in the Hamlet for some gems and see you'll be doing more damage.
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>>163439587
Im doing alright though, probably cause im level 106 or something.

If orphan starts proving too difficult I'll see about that, but so far aside from Ludwig taking a bit of grinding the dlc wasnt incredibly difficult.
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can someone help for hmph?
for an arcane abyssal gem
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>>163435930
Where do the best ones in the game come from? Now I've just gotta decide on a secondary weapon
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how does get good with the pick and the axe ? i cant seem to hit anyone with it
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>>163441564
Doesn't hmph give colds?
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>>163442910
yes
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How come you cant use fire/bolt paper on some weapons like the burial blade?
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>>163443593
Because those weapons already have either innate arcane or blood damage. Only physical damage weapons can be elementally buffed.
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Anyone wanna help a lvl43 with Logarius. Pw, bbg. Near fog gate
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I wasn't sure where to ask this, but I thought /bbg/ might tolerate it for a bit.

I want some grimdark medieval combat and Dark Souls scratches that itch just right, but I can't stomach another playthrough of DS3 and I have a shit tier laptop so no DS1, so is Scholar of the First Sin worth it? I played Vanilla DS2 on my 360 before I got rid of it to get my Bloodborne Machine and it was fine, but I knew I wasn't getting the best. Does Scholar fix it in anyway? The gameplay, combat, anything?
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>>163444426
Play BB, DaS1, DeS, or wait for Nioh.
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>>163444426
there's a dark souls general
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>>163444426
get it
its good
P.S stop asking strangers on the internet for shit to buy
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>>163444297
Nvm got em'
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>>163444297
i'm ringin anon
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>>163439089
I can't remember if they said the cage was necessary for the ritual, or if it was just a "Big Hat" aesthetic sort of thing.

I, personally, like to imagine that they act as antennas, and that all of Mensis were 'linked' together in a psychic web that allowed Micolash to make contact with Mother Brain and set up
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>>163445583
Whoops,

*set up the Nightmare of Mensis
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>>163445289
I got em. My apologies for your time anon.
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Why is it that everyone I invade is a twink? I do no damage and 80% of my hp is gone with one attack.
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>>163446643
What lvl are you?
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>>163423675
>>163424163
>What is the Night of the Hunt?
This you can take at face value. It's when the men of Yharnam get together and clean these foul streets. The difference between a night of the hunt and THE Night of the Hunt is that /this/ one takes place during the Blood Moon.

>What is it's significance?
To kill beasts. BUT the populace of Yharnam has been manipulated. It's TRUE purpose is to, through a complicated, secret and violent ritual, is the immaculate conception of a Great One to a mortal. It's pretty much The Dunwich Horror.

>Why are the people of yharnam out in the streets and hostile to you?
They are literally mad. The magical blood that everyone was infused with is the blood of the Moon Presence, the Old One that takes up residence in the Hunter's Dream you enjoy. It turns men to beasts, and bloodlust exacerbates it. So when the men of Yharnam began killing beasts en-mass, it just made /more beasts/. They also have a great fear of outsiders, and they believe that the whole scourge is an outside disease. Basically, they don't realize they're monsters, and they see YOU as the monster. You are

>Is the night of hunt something that happens often?
More or less, yeah. This one in particular takes place on a very special event (the Blood Moon) which is why shit starts to go fucking wonky about halfway through.

>Has it happened in Yharnam before?
Yes. The beast scourge started in Old Yharnam after the Healing Church began handing out old-blood transfusions, and before that our predecessor race, the Pthumerians, also attempted an immaculate conception on the Blood Moon (it didn't work).

There was a similar scourge in Loran (a place that's only mentioned in chalice dungeon stuff), but it was never made clear if it was a malicious ritual or just Old God fuckery.
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>>163448049
>The magical blood that everyone was infused with is the blood of the Moon Presence
It probably wasn't the Moon Presence's blood, more likely Ebrietas's blood, since the Church had access to her, if not home-grown Celestial Emissaries' blood.
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>>163423675
>What is the Night of the Hunt?
Out break. It is implied people turning into beasts is a rare but normal occurrence. The night of the hunt is when there is a massive outbreak of it all at once.

>What is it's significance?
Everyone is turning into monsters.

>Why are the people of yharnam out in the streets and hostile to you?
>Is the night of hunt something that happens often?
Doesn't seem that common, but shit is going very wrong this time. Normally, people are safe if they stay inside their homes. That's not the case this time around.

>Has it happened in Yharnam before?
Yes, down by the chain gunner.

>>163448049
I don't think the hunt has anything to do with the ritual directly. I think the ritual is pulling the moon presence close, against its will, and being so close has the side effect of turning everyone into lunatics, i.e. causing the outbreak..
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>>163448049
>It's TRUE purpose is to, through a complicated, secret and violent ritual, is the immaculate conception of a Great One to a mortal. It's pretty much The Dunwich Horror.
Great Ones impregnating people is a side effect of the red moon, same with people turning into beasts. The ritual is for people to ascend into Great Ones like Kos did with Rom but the first try (Old Yharnam) didn't work and Mensis ended up with their brains fried in the nightmare since Mergo is just a baby and didn't understand what they wanted. The second ritual (the one we see) looks like the pthumerians working together with what's left of Mensis to bring them back, including Mergo.
This is pure speculation on my part so feel free to disagree with me.
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Someone pls help me bully Maria
Pass is bbg
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>>163451130
>Mensis ended up with their brains fried in the nightmare since Mergo is just a baby and didn't understand what they wanted.
It's probably because they saw or heard something far worse. Mergo isn't a baby, Yharnam was pregnant with his physical manifestation but the birth resulted in failure, she drops the remains of its fetus when you kill her. Since the description of the umbilical cord said they were able to speak to it in some way, though, it probably means they caught a glimpse of him in the Dreamlands and it drove them insane.
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>>163451605
Let us destroy her
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>>163452049
You have worldwide on? I've been ringing for a while and I'm not getting anything
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>>163452416
Aye, I do. I'll restart in a minute if it doesn't connect, usually works.
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>>163439182
>untricked form exist
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>>163452570
Alright, I'm gonna restart real quick. I just want to get by blodletter ;_;
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wish i could play this game as a shark giant
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>>163452947
I restarted, still nothing my man, you're using your beckoning bell, right? Because I fucked up before and rand my small resonant trying to summon people once.
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>got my ps4 like 2 weeks ago
>playing bloodborne online
>enjoying myself
>today get this "you can't play online you don't have psplus"
>But I never had psplus in the first place
>My ps4 didn't had that promo shit about free psplus either
>Nobody else uses my ps4, no other accounts or anything
>Well shit
>Try to activate the FREE psplus trial
>"Your purchase may not be complete"
>"Your purchase may not be complete"
>"Your purchase may not be complete"
>Okay... try to buy a 1 year sub
>"Your credit card number is not valid"
>"Your credit card number is not valid"
>"Your credit card number is not valid"

But I literally used my card several times this week to pay for bills, buy some shit on amazon and groceries and still got at least $200 on it
What should I do?
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>>163453510
Thanks for that. My first run using the boom hammer isn't going so well, so I went from pure strength to str/blt.
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>>163453510
hes prolly not embrued
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>>163453901
go to best buy and buy one of the ps plus cards
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>>163453925
Glad to help with a bully, anon
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>>163449007
>>163449897
You guys are probably right. Ebrietas is probably the source of the scourge. The Moon Presence summons you deliberately to stop the ritual, it makes sense that it would be something harmful to it.

I doubt the conception is on accident, though. Perhaps it's just what the Old Ones get out of the deal, while Micolash wants to become an elder thing himself.

Also, I imagine Mensis was sacrificed to create the Nightmare, I doubt that was an accident, too.
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>burial blade
>arcane based
>adds 2 cold abyssal and a +27,2% arc
>192 arc
explain why I can't have a full arc burial blade, bbg
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>>163454790
Because the arc scaling isn't the problem, clown. The base damage is.
No gems will fix a 60 base arcane damage.
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>>163453901
They may have given you the free 2 week trial anyway.

I had similar problems with my card. Just buy a PS cashcard, if one is unavailable, you can get a code off of amazon as well. Weirdly enough, my card works now for some reason.
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>when you finish a boss with a visceral
Does it ever stop being satisfying?
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>>163454790
You can, but it will be utter shit. You can throw on as many cold abyssals as you want, but the Blade of Mercy and the Amygdalan Arm both have the same problem with low base damage.
Scaling is hardly ever an issue with STR and ARC because of abyssals.
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>>163454897
>saif
>0 base arcane
>400 arc with cold abyssal and a +27%
base arcane isn't the problem, dingus, it's the shitty scaling of these weapons
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>>163455783
Scaling doesn't matter when you can just throw cold abyssals onto a weapon, anon.
You're missing the part where the Burial Blade, unlike the Saif, already has innate arcane damage.

Tell me. Why exactly do you think people don't invest in arcane for the BB, BoM, and Amy Arm?
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>>163454782
Maybe an old one's blood who isn't Ebrietas wouldn't cause the scourge.
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>>163455783
>base arcane isn't the problem, dingus, it's the shitty scaling of these weapons
Your argument is retarded considering that Saif has .55 arc scaling without abyssals, compared to a higher .69 arc scaling in the BB without the abyssals. If shitty scaling isn't a problem for the saif, why is it a problem for the BB?
With two cold abyssals, saif gets 1.85, and the BB 1.99. 1.99 > 1.85.
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>>163456171
Alien blood in general causes it. It's part of the whole 'things man was not meant to know angle' of the game, you're not really meant to jamming alien blood into your veins.
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>>163455783
Holy shit anon! You are a genius! How did nobody ever thought of converting BB to arcane before?!
You can't convert a weapon that's not pure physical damage, that's why you don't see a bolt blades of mercy or a fire chikage
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>>163451130
the school of mensis rituals are beckoning
the pthumerian witches use bell to transcend plans, like the pvp bells do
they summon amalgams created for body parts, and the red moon context is probably helping to summon something bigger than wolves
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I just fell outside of the scenario and died when fighting a loran darkbeast without even getting any hit, just staying below it. Hopefully the host managed to finish it.
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>>163435654
>>163435882
>tonitrus
>boring
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trying to kill rom the sipder plz help k thank
the pword is :bbg
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>>163456635
All it does is awkward diagonal swings with no range and it doesn't have cool transformation attacks.
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>>163457243
Story one?
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Convince me not to spend $230 dollars on this game
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>>163449007
two possibilities
1-the scourge happens whatever the blood the hunter receive and then ebrietas' blood is more likely to be used
2-the scourge depends on the blood received. as there're scourge beasts in loran and not in isz, it may mean amygdala is the source of the scourge
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>>163457413
Do it
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>>163457393
what did he mean by this
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>>163457413
What for?
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>>163457453
>as there're scourge beasts in loran and not in isz,
No, there are scourge beasts in Isz, but not in Ihyll IIRC.
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>>163457453
But the Church was the one leading the blood ministration and they were in close contact with Ebrietas, so the blood that they used likely goes back to her in some way. The only reason I can think of to say it isn't blood directly from Ebrietas used regularly is that the Choir was literally growing Celestial Emissaries in the Lumenflower Garden.
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I'm about to give up. The password is kosm Give your fellow hunter a hand, please.
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>>163457948
omw, are you ringing by the lantern or fog?
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>>163322218
Luci can't be a better player than anyone because he unironically married himself to Ludwig's holy blade and Rakuyo/saif builds.
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>>163457948
omw
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>>163458171
Fog
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>>163457413
It's worth it Anon. No regrets.
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>>163457591
no, scourge beasts are exclusive to loran chalices
and the antic beasts are probably the old version of the scourge affecting the citizens of the old yharnam

>>163445583
the cage is a way to ear and be connected to the great ones, so the school of mensis could improve and learn how to reach new plans of reality

>>163451636
the yharnam stone is more like a medium to breed new surrogates from the MP
it's the proof that the queen can breed the surrogates of the MP (like the ring of betrothal), but it doesn't mean the church followed this path
they could have killed yharman and took the stone to breed new surrogate with another woman (with the knowledge from studies on breeding from ebrietas)
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>>163458360
>no, scourge beasts are exclusive to loran chalices
Scourge Beast =/= Beast Patient, anon.
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Is my Heather Mason any good?
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>>163458780
7/10
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>>163458862
th-thanks
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>>163458456
you talking about the wolves?
that's just big wolves
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Looking for help on the martyr logarius fight cause fuck this anybody free?
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>>163458295
Are you still around or did you give up?
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>>163455074
as satisfying as ending regular enemies with augur of ebrietas
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>>163458936
Anon, the scourge beasts are the wolves, like the ones you find on the bridge in Central Yharnam. Beast patients are the short guys you find in Old Yharnam.
Beast patients are not scourge beasts.
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>>163458360
I mean, I can't say you're wrong for certain or anything but I don't think that's what the Yharnam Stone is. I think it's pretty clear a fetus is inside it and the most reasonable explanation is that it's just the remnants of Mergo's failed birth. So there's nothing to really say that it can be used in any way like that.
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>>163458171
>>163458236
Thanks Angus and thanks Noble. Holy fucking shit I'm really bad at it's second phase.
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>>163458957
Sure, just make a password or ring without one.
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>>163458957
i'm ringin bbg at fog anon
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>>163459109
Happy to help
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>>163459131
Password is martyr all lower case
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>>163459075
the patient are experiments by the church with the blood, so why are the loran chalices full of them?
scourge beasts are hunters turned into beasts because they absorbed too much blood
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>>163459131
Sorry, just beat with another guy then.
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>>163459260
Ringing with the password now. Did you beat him already?
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Fuck. these particular dog enemes are such fucking cancer.

Seperate note: What's a really good crowd control weapon for a Str/Arc? The Threaded Cane is fantastic for handling groups but I cant of any weapon in particular Str that are as effective at dealing damage in a wide area
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>>163459595
Already done! Thanks for the help guys
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>>163459597
i fucking hate any fromsoft dogs

beast cutter perhaps?
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>>163459597
Beast cutter? Bloodletter has the AoE you can bait them into, but the hard knockdown blood damage gives is annoying.
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>>163459791
Sorry, I was focusing on the game and misread str/arc, although I truly wish I could combo kill spiders and dogs with the blood weapons.
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>>163456352
>arcane based weapon
>can't use it with arcane
anon, I...
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>>163457413
You're getting one of the best modern action games on the market, some of the best music, lore, art design and comfy /bbg/ co-op for a fraction of what some of us paid

DO IT
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>>163458780
As close as you can get in From's horrendous character creators
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>Defiled Amygdala
>>
>join a facebook FC
>120 - 140's everywhere
>get 2 shoted everytime

i should have never doubed you guys, bbg fc is the best
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yo so what happen to hypogean gaol on final moon stage
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>>163461019
>make it jump
>smack a charged r2 on its head
>repeat
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>>163461318
>joining a facebook FC
lol
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>>163461496
the ritual is interrupted because rom is dead i think, everything goes to shit and the nightmares take over
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>skip hemwick
>play all the way to Mergo's Nurse
>decide to explore some more
>realized i played most of the game without runes

Whoops.
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>>163458780
Pretty close
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>>163461631
so wat u be sayin iz
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>>163461612
got bored of the nightmare and tought everyone was a chump, its just full rakuyo + saif quality builds out there
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>>163461496
The Mensis ritual was unveiled and you can see everything that's actually going on, and it's unspeakable and monstrous. It also gives you a straight at shit their ritual HQ, Nightmare of Mensis.
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>>163459423
>the patient are experiments by the church with the blood
They're just victims of ashen blood.
Not necessarily hunters.
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>>163461570
I know that's what I'm saying
I'm falling asleep trying to fight it.
Its so boring that I get complacent, fuck up, get hit, and die.
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>>163461736
tentacle fags get what they deserve
>>
So, I made a bloodtinge build with enough STR/SKL to equip anything vaguely related to it like cannons and the bowblade. What's something fun I can do with it?

I've been using the bloodletter to beat all the story bosses and chalice bosses, which is effective but too straightforward outside of transform attacks and baiting into L2, and it's the weapon with the least incentive to even untrick.
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>>163461631
the night progress as much as you kill bosses
when it's the red moon, the ritual starts and the hypogean goal is cleaned by the amalgams looking for body parts
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>>163461810
oh, yeah i kinda agree. at least defiled hotdog was a fun challenge
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>>163461797
the game starts with a wolf threatening you, coming from the blood
even gascoigne explains it, the more a hunter (which received paleblood) absorbs blood, the biggest he becomes a wolf beast
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>>163462376
>(which received paleblood)

back it up, beep beep beep
received paleblood?
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>>163462376
>a wolf threatening you, coming from the blood
It was an actual werewolf, the one you fight unarmed and has low HP.
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>>163462492
these are the same wolves

>>163462442
yes hunters receive paleblood so they can recover health by absorbing blood, but if they drink too much, they transform into beast
most cleric turned into giant wolves, except ludwig

you receive the mixed paleblood at the beginning of the game but as you're mergo the last surrogate, you can't transform into a beast (except with a rune)
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>>163462752
I thought Ludwig was the cleric beast though.
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I need a break from this lore.
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>>163462905
the cleric beast is prolly the son of amelia
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>>163462752
>as you're mergo the last surrogate, you can't transform into a beast (except with a rune)
No?
Mergo is Mergo, you're a random ass Hunter.
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>>163441573
Best gems are always FRC gems, which require finishing the dungeons. There's not a lot of fire gems in the main game so I'd advise to finish CD's asap. Two Cold Abyssals and a Fire Abyssal from Hotdog, or 27.2% Fire Triangle from Watchers is the best fire setup for the Whirligig.
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>>163462752
Anon, I think you need to calm down with the insight.
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>>163462752
>you receive the mixed paleblood at the beginning of the game but as you're mergo the last surrogate
I think your Mensis Cage is on a bit too tight, you're picking up some bad signals
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>>163463391
What's the difference between a Hotdog gem and a Watchers gem? Only the shape?
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>>163463424
>>163463487
Someone lacks eyes.
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>>163463158
>>163463424
>>163463487
>can't prove I'm wrong
>still thinking they're right
well well
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>>163463658
you also have to take the chalice zone into account

watchers on isz drop triangles up to 27%
watchers in isz drop radials up to 27% too but only physical gems

watchdog gems are the best when obtained in loran and are waning with a + flat fire secodary efect
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>>163463906
If the player is Mergo, then how do they meet and kill Mergo?
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>>163463658
Shape and Watchers is 27.2%, Hotdog 24.8%+15. 2 Colds + Watcher is 666 AR, 2 Colds + Hotdog is 669 AR. But Watchers higher % is better for higher modifiers, so it's your choice.

Did a bit of extra math and found that 1 Cold, a 27.2% Fire Triangle and a Hotdog Abyssal is actually better (680 AR). So both and a Cold is ideal (unless you had +15 Fire on one of the Cold Abyssals, then it'd go over 680 for the first two setups).
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>>163463906
Do you have absolutely any basis to any of the claims you've made, though?
Is there absolutely any evidence? Burden of proof. It's on you for making the claims.
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it's impressive how much health you can get back through rallying with the hunter's axe and guidance
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>>163464234
Try Guidance with the Moonlight Sword or Burial Blade. It's insane.
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>>163464176
666 AR in what weapon senpai ? the max i have on most weapns is 409 AR
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>>163464394
409 AR with 2 colds with no elemental secondary and 27% triagles*
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>>163464394
Fire Whirligig with 50 Arcane, converted weapons usually have lower AR than a physical setup on Str/Skl builds but they exploit enemy weaknesses so they can do way more damage depending on the enemy and what element you use (unless it's something resistant to fire/bolt/arcane like Ol' Logi).
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Does anyone know of the earliest place in the gem to find a triangle fire gem? The one at the bottom of the old workshop is a waning gem
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>>163464329
they all have less rally potential than the hunter's axe though
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>>163464745
9.1% Nourishing Triangle in the cave leading to the clinic in Forbidden Woods. There are no Fire Triangles in the main game aside from the one in Fishing Hamlet which is deep into the DLC. Lower Hintertomb might have decent fire triangles, possibly from Fire Axe dudes if there are any.
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>>163464829
I was under the impression that the Burial Blade was the highest rallying weapon in the game?
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>>163464159
when you die why are you coming back to life endlessly?
because it's your own dream
and you don't kill mergo, it fades away without its nurse (and fast, proving it's a dream)

>>163464216
many coincidences
>entering the city exactly the night of the red moon, related to the birth of the surrogate
>you crumble when looking at the red moon after the rom fight
>you can hear the cry of the baby (mergo) from the start of the game, when he's in another dimension
>micolash says you're a hunter even if you're in a dream
>one crow in hemwick carmel lane doesn't attack you, he knows you're a friend (the exception confirming the rule)
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>>163464975
Well, that's the wrong impression.
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>>163465014
>>one crow in hemwick carmel lane doesn't attack you, he knows you're a friend (the exception confirming the rule)
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>>163465014
Right, and Eileen is the Wet Nurse.
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>>163462752
>yes hunters receive paleblood

what in the world. paleblood is the big mystery of the game to me and you just figured it out like that, huh? what led you to the knowledge that it is paleblood you receive? from the intro cutscene it sounds like you're getting a basic blood ministration.
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>>163465420
paleblood is literaly the eldrich truch no ? you just recive normal yharham blood, the messengers protect you from going mad
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Is there any way to kill those creepy little messengers? I am sick of them.
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>>163465647
>paleblood is literaly the eldrich truch no ?

i don't know why do you say that please substantiate your claims

paleblood is mentioned in two notes from what i know. you ask the guy in the window at central yharnam about it and he's like "nah i don't know what that is, try the healing church" and that's what i know about it.
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are these guys healing church hunters? Because they dress like gealing church hunters
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Should I get the phisical copy for 19.99 or the digital one for 9.99?
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lore is stupid
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>>163466161
agree 100 %. this game makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
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>>163466027
They look like pthumerians. Maybe church experiments?
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>>163466027
They're Healing Church experiments, or Pthumerians gathered by the Church.
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>>163466106
get the digital complete edition for $25, it's on sale

it comes with the DLC
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>>163464974
Cool, thanks for the heads up man. Would you happen to know the warliest place to find bolt gems? Looking to throw some in my tonitrus
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>>163466106
Physical copy of the base game let's you delete patches and use any exploit/glitch if your save is created with the earliest version. But if you don't care about that stuff then digital copy is fine.
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>>163466106
Get GOTY edition digital, it winds up being a bit a cheaper than base+DLC
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>>163465014
I'm sorry, coincidences are not definitive proof.

>entering the city exactly the night of the red moon, related to the birth of the surrogate
A coincidence, nothing more.

>you crumble when looking at the red moon after the rom fight
As would anyone else when subjected to something like that. That particular cutscenes serves to illustrate the fact that Rom was hiding the Blood Moon until she was slain, and now the Blood Moon is clearly visible.

>you can hear the cry of the baby (mergo) from the start of the game, when he's in another dimension
Only with high Insight is it possible to hear Mergo's crying from the beginning of the game, making it essentially an NG+ only thing.

>micolash says you're a hunter even if you're in a dream
This statement pertains directly to your skill as a hunter. It has zero relevance to anything else.

>one crow in hemwick carmel lane doesn't attack you, he knows you're a friend (the exception confirming the rule)
No, exceptions NEVER confirm rules.

You have no proof.
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>>163466323
Other than the Waning in Yaharhar, you'll have to get to Lighthouse Hut in the DLC for 20.3% Bolts from lightning fish wizards. Silverbeasts in Frontier drop Bolt Wanings, maybe farm them in hopes of getting Radials but I wouldn't bother using a Bolt weapon until you get to Lighthouse Hut or finish CD's. Ailing Loran might have decent early Waning Bolts.
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>>163464234
>>163464829
>>163465025

What's the difference between rally potential +20% and rally +2 on a blood gem?
What does guidance do? Boost rally potential?

is that number in the spreadsheet just like the base amount of HP that is recovered per strike with rally, and the number goes up with the weapon level, just like the weapon's actual damage output does?
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>>163466845
Well shit, guess I'll keep rocking the axe then for now. Is the HMS worth picking up?
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>>163467248
For Arc builds, as long as you have 20-25 Strength then yeah. 20-25 Skill is good for it too. Nourishing gems are ideal.
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>>163463906
>Seek the Paleblood
Beyond the fact that it's a proper noun, why would they tell you to seek it right after giving it to you?

I also think they mentioned specifically hunting the Paleblood.

>>163465014
>when you die why are you coming back to life endlessly?
All hunters cut with blood Dream.

>because it's your own dream
Nope

>and you don't kill mergo, it fades away without its nurse
But you're still killing him.

>entering the city exactly the night of the red moon, related to the birth of the surrogate
You were beckoned by the Moon Presence to stop the Ritual of Mensis.

>you crumble when looking at the red moon after the rom fight
>you can hear the cry of the baby (mergo) from the start of the game, when he's in another dimension
>micolash says you're a hunter even if you're in a dream
>one crow in hemwick carmel lane doesn't attack you, he knows you're a friend (the exception confirming the rule)
None of this means anything whatsoever
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>>163466524
>>163467583
Got 'em!
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>>163466216
You go to the city looking for paleblood, receive healing blood to look for it and ends up becoming a hunter. Old man tells you to hunt, you make your way to the church were you touch a skull and see it's memories and a password. You head to a spooky forest with snakes and ayys until reaching an old college with an old mushroom that points to a retarded spider hiding stuff. The spider is just chiling but you kill it anyways, a bride shows up and the red moon descends, making everything go crazier. At a hidden part of the city even spookier stuff is happening but you ignore it and touch a mummy. You kill an asshole spider and head to a nightmare with a madman spurting nonsense, climb the castle some more and kill a baby sitter together with the baby. Old man tells you to wake up but you refuse and have an epic battle with him. When you win, the moon itself comes down to make you her child but you ain't having that. In the end you ascend humanity and turn into a baby squid and live forever happy with your new mom.
What do you mean with "it doesn't make sense"?
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>>163466845
>yarharhar
i'm crying
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>>163456635
Don't get me wrong, I love the tonitrus and made a Nikola tesla cosplay for it
But it is boring as fuck
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>>163467062
rally potential +20% means you will get 20% more HP back per strike in rally than you would normally

I think rally +2 means you have 2 more seconds of time before your opportunity to rally goes away
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>>163468389
to this day i havent got a single kill with it, with good gems even
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>>163470223
how? it's powerful as shit when you charge it up
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>>163468080
>You go to the city looking for paleblood
No you don't. You go to Yharnam seeking to cure a mystery illness that's never elaborated upon, because you hear that Yharnam's unique Blood Ministration treatment, hoping that it will cure whatever illness you've got.
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>>163470308
short range, people dont take it seriously for some reason, they start healing and running away when im winning
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>>163470426
the dash-L1 attack isn't short range
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>>163470543
but is 2slow, maybye im just bad
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>>163470223
Switch it up on dash attacks with a transform attack
It's just a little bit delayed and works great as a rollcatch
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>>163470347
Nice fanfiction. Mind if I steal it?
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Arcane gems put in weapons dont make hunter tools do more damage, right?
Sorry for my autism
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a reminder that Miyazaki called Paarl a Wank Demon
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>>163471258
No, just the stat
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>>163471362
Just imagine if 0800 BEYOND did 80% more damage per projectile.
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>>163464234
where the fuck is guidance 3? High rally is awesome. It makes it so you can just clash constantly and tank hits without needing potions (so long as you don't get combo'd)
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Should I kill Iosefka for Oedon Writhe or wait and get the Umbilical Cord?
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>>163472402
What's the state of Arianna? There are 4 cords, you only need three.
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>>163472402
You're guaranteed two Umbilical Cords from the Abandoned Old Workshop and one of the last bosses. So if you're all set to get Arianna's - she's safe at the Cathedral Ward, the Suspicious Beggar wasn't sent there, and you aren't tempting Adella to kill her - then you can get Iosefka's rune.
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>>163472012
>tools with gem slots
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Should I go to 99 arc for kos parasite?
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>>163472945
If you're not restricting your level then yes, if you're stopping at 120 or something then don't.
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>>163472945
kos does ok with 50 arc
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>one attack from boss does 10% of health
>does another faster attack and oneshots me
hmmm okay then
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>>163473287
Didn't he get a counter hit on you?
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>>163472945
50 Arc is all it needs, 50+ is for Hunter Tools.
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>>163473287
>getting hit
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>no porn of ayyosefka
Why even live?
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>>163473426
70 is a good stopping point for pure arc
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>>163475663
Okay?
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>>163475663
50 is a good stopping point for arc. It's better to invest these 20 levels somewhere else. You either go 50 or 99.
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NEW THREAD

>>163476131
>>163476131
>>163476131
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>>163436586
me too anon, this shit is becoming a fucking problem. For some reason when I picked bb up on launch I didn't really like it that much (was probably expecting it to be more soulsy) so I got halfway through it then shelved it. Tried it again about a month and a half ago and now I'm doing my 5th play-through in 5 weeks. Help
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>>163393181
>tfw entire friendlist on ps3 is made up of the only handful of people that still occasionally play des online
>all of them are randoms that I added or was added by after a chance invasion or co-op encounter

des is still almost as comfy as bb
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