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The old thread, bumped to autosage by anons, is now home only to lorefags: >>163322039

>A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
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PURGE FILTH
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first for memes
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I'LL RAPE THE DOLL AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME
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>>163476781
IM WAY AHEAD OF YOU

I TEST THE KNIFE DAMAGE WITH THE DOLL EVERYTIME I ENTER THE DREAM
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4th for maria a shit
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>>163476987
i would please gherman for free
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P O S T
C U T E
A Y Y S
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>>163477183
>old man
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>>163477305
y u r i e i s a c u t i e

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>>163477305
It seems like there is a subconscious desire of our collective conscious recently to be interested in ayyliems.

Why is that?
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>>163477305
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>>163477698
we are atracted to the unknow
we like to sexualice stuff
there
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>>163477698
earth girls are fucking trash
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why does it take so fucking long for the "Nightmare Slain" to appear after killing Mergo's wet nurse?
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>>163478073
it only appears once infant mergo stops crying
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>>163478073
Because you need to wait for Mergo to die. The Wet Nurse sustained him.
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is the hunter axe the best PvE weapon overall?
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>>163478383
no the cleaver is
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>>163478383
No. Saw Cleaver, Spear, Whirligig Saw, and Church Pick are all better.
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>>163478383
the axe is ez mode
the cleaver has more dps if you know how to use it
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>>163478383
Not serrated and 0 Thrust attacks so no. It's great but there are better options for PvE.
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>>163478383
Sorry, I can't hear you over the satisfying impacts of the Kirkhammer.
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>>163478383
it is probably the most versatile. Highest rally potential, not that slow, stuns easily, huge range with the tricked version, varied moveset, and the tricked charged R2 is something else, especially for cheesing hunter enemies. You will not run into an encounter where most other weapons would do better.
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>>163478912
I am so upset that the hammer does not do more damage when tricked, LBH is literally superior in every way but I goddamn i love the moveset and look of the hammer.
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>>163479440
>does not do more damage when tricked
Are you kidding? Get a Heavy Abyssal and 2x 27.2 gems and that thing will hit like an absolute truck, dude. Even in PvP you can see 900+ damage with a single hit on counterhits.
Slotting a single Heavy Abyssal into STR weapons with low scaling values amps up their damage far, far more than a third 27.2 would.
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>>163479721
>27.2% gems
For tricked, 32.6% Blunt gems work far better.
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>>163479875
Yes, but like the Chikage, blunt gems only work on a specific form. The Kirkhammer's sword form is well and truly worth using due to the contrasting speed. It adds a lot of versatility to the weapon in PvE and PvP situations. A good weapon is a versatile one.

Of course, I'm not saying "don't use blunt gems", I'm just saying that it's not always the wisest course of action to "lock" yourself to using one form of a weapon exclusively.
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>>163479440
Blame Miyazaki for being a sucker for great swords.
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Excuse me /bbg/, do you have a moment to talk about our Blood-starved Lord and Savior?
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>>163480209
Why do we only encounter one BSB during the main game?(not counting dlc or chalices)
Why is one hung there and where are the rest???
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>>163480538
there is... another
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If you were infected with the beast plague, what kind of beast would you want to be?
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Post and rate/bully hoontahs
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>>163480676
>>163480538

nevermind, I didn't catch that you said not counting the DLC

BSB is a normal non-respawning enemy there
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>>163480676
not in the waking world though
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>>163480776
is that bayonetta/10
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>>163480776
nice to see someone model their hunter after my grandmother

10/10 all details on point, right down to the dorky 1960s eyeglasses
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>>163480979
>>163480854
>Anon's grandmother looks like Bayonetta
Neat
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>>163480209
>>163480538
>be cleric
>the hunt begins and you hide in the church with other survivors
>people start turning into beasts
>you also turn slowly but it's somehow different, stronger
>the city is on fire
>hunters start beating the door
>they are there for you
>tell others to hide
>the door comes down
>the transformation starts and you explode into a beast
>the hunters are too strong but you distracted them so the people could live
>they strap you there alive to assert their might
>years later and the citizens pray to your corpse as to show humanity amongst beasthood
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>>163480691
Tomb guardian WITH A FUCKING FLAIL
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>>163481823
I've played through the game five times but there's still one thing I don't really understand (maybe I missed something somewhere)

What determines what kind of beast someone transforms into? The amount of blood they consume / use for blood ministration? The rarity / quality of they blood they use? How little insight / how prone to beasthood they are?
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>>163482032
This is the description of the Sword Hunter Badge dropped by Cleric Beast:
One of the badges crafted by the Healing Church.
The silver sword is a symbol of a Church hunter.

Ludwig was the first of many Healing Church hunters to
come, many of whom were clerics. As it was, clerics
transformed into the most hideous beasts.

I don't recall any other mention of variations in the beast transformation
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>>163482032
It's probably dictated by the kind of person you are/were, which is why Healing Church clerics turned into some of the most monstrous ones.
The average Yharnamite would turn into stuff like the Beast Patiences and Scourge Beasts.
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>>163477305
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>>163482032
>>163482362
It's mentioned somewhere, though I forget where, that the harder one resists the scourge, the more grotesque and powerful a beast you become. It's why Ludwig ended up as monstrous as he did. He fought for so long, clung to his humanity with his guiding moonlight as an anchor, and when he finally succumbed, well... We all know how he turned out.
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>>163482032
>>163482362
clerics turned into biggest beasts in this game because they were the biggest blood junkies of them all, being that they were a part of the church itself
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>>163480538
The greater your will to resist beasthood, the more fucked up a beast you become. The vast majority of people don't have the willpower to resist for long, so they become regular beasts. Only a select few turn into things like BSB.

As for why there's a dead one hanging in the church could be anyone's guess. Personally, I don't think the beast patients are responsible for having killed it, as they are not hostile towards the BSB in the Hunter's Nightmare. It doesn't make much sense for humans to put a nasty beast right in one of their churches either. Perhaps it was slain by a hunter during the purge of Old Yharnam, and later on the surviving beasts found the body and hung it up in the church to be worshiped.
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>>163482609
>kos(m) has the Mistral hair
What did FROM mean by this?
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>>163482836
>that webm
>people will never mod BB to make the bosses playable like with the Souls games
fuck
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>>163482609
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How long does it take for the Chikage's slow poison to kill the Fucking Crow of Cainhurst?
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>>163483414
>people will never mod BB
Give it a few years and wait for the PS4 to get hacked.
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>>163483520
Just lead him to the doors, he cant exit the Cathedral, so he will be stuck in a aggro loop at the doors
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Does anyone have the arcane asshole guide on them?
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>>163483520
Chikage inflicts Rapid Poison, not the Slow variant. Rapid Poison functions the same as bleed did in previous games, tearing a big chunk out of the enemy's HP so fast that it seems like a single hit.
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>>163484147
He probably meant the self-damage
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>>163484102
Check the OP
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>>163484102
Everything really is in the OP my man
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>>163484210
Never gonna happen. Crowsteel's AI was fixed a while back so that it almost never uses the tricked form when on low HP.
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>>163484356
>>163485249
Thanks mates
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Anyone available to help me with Ludwig? Low level and trying for his sword. Ringing at the fog. Pass:

bbg
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>>163485717
>Just went into NG+

If you're willing to wait, I could quick kill Amelia and sprint for the fog, but if you get someone else willing to help, don't wait up.
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>>163485717
Ringing there now
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Back to this game after a 4 month hiatus, started on a fresh character and I am just bad at it now.

Fun as fuck but I keep getting dumb deaths. Probably partly due to the fact I picked saw cleaver for the first time and I'm unfamiliar with the move set.

Anywho, recommend me a dex weapon gents! Preferably one I can get early on. I'm probably gonna kill Eileen after Henryk for those sweet blades and awesome yellow cloak
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>>163486068
Cool, ringing now.

>>163486013
Thanks anyway! Don't rush it, my man.
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>>163486139
I really like the Beasthunter Saif. Can suicide run through the first DLC area and get it early.
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>>163486068
Still ringing? PSN might be shit tonight.
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>>163486373
You just have to kill Amelia for that right?
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>>163486480
Yeah I'm still ringing, password connections often take ages to start up
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>>163486139
You can pick up the Saw Spear in the Yharnam sewer area, it's basically the skill Saw Cleaver and also sort of a better weapon. Threaded Cane, too, is very good crowd control.

The DLC, however, has the best Skill weapons, one of which can be found very early on, the Beasthunter Saif.
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>>163486527
Yup
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Not the first guy, but also ringing at Ludwig's Fog
pass is bbg
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Password matching is suffering
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Still ringing, guys. Don't know what's taking so long.
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You fags do have your region set to worldwide right?
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>>163487191
>>163487304
Make sure your matching region is set to worldwide, and if it still takes a while, sometimes resetting the PS4 helps.
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Wich is better if I want to use Holy Moonlight Sword and the wheel, 50 str and 25 ARC or vice-versa?
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>>163487465
Depends if you want to use Hunter Tools and moobeams/revving. 50/25 is superior on the Phys side, but 25/50 is a bit more versatile from my experience.
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FUCK, my VIT is so goddamn low. Fucking one shotted. Ringing again.
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Ugh. This ARC build is true suffering. If you've got other stuff to do tonight you don't have to stick around, my friend.
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>>163482609
I'd Kos her Kosm
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I am just getting bitch made tonight. Sorry man.
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>>163488118
If it makes you feel any better, when I started this build a few days ago, I had to summon help because I, too, had ten vitality.
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>>163488189
I'm gonna ring until one of three things happen: I run out of insight, people get tired, or he goes down.
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Come join Moon-blind Uriel in slaughtering Ludwig! Password is bbg. Fun never ends.
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God fucking damn it all. I've killed this boss two dozen times and I'm still fucking up. Ugh.
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I hate this boss god fuck
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>>163489047
I'm with you, brother. I'm just gonna call it for tonight, getting frustrated which just makes me more sloppy. I really appreciate the help. Need a hand with anything? I'll swap over to my good character.
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>>163489234
I got three insight left so, three more tries for me
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>>163489485
All right.
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&/#+:_%2$6(8
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What's a good amount of VIT for a pure ARC build?
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What level are you guys? This character is pretty high level and the downscaling is super harsh. It'd probably go better if I switch to a lower level character.
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>>163489824
If you're talking about us going after Ludwig, I'm 44.
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>>163489750
40-50 like any other build.
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>>163489824
>>163489887
I'm 30. Guess I should go and level up then
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>>163489887
Alright, switching character. This will hopefully go much smoother, seeing as he has better gems, too.

>>163490046
No need, you're right in range of being able to summon my lower level build without downscaling. Unless you want to level up, which certainly wouldn't hurt.
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>>163488493
sure im omw if you're still ringing
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>>163490209
I am!
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>>163490136
Gonna give it one more try, then I'm going to grind
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Oh boy.
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Alright, well thanks for trying to help, gonna invest in vit
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>>163490239
i just got summoned to someone that wasnt "Moon Blind Uriel", maybe we should use a different password?
I'm Noble btw
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>>163490371
All right. I really appreciate it. I'll go grind with you if you want.
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All right. Thanks for the help guys. I sucked tonight hard. Either of you need help somewhere? I'll get on my stronger character.
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So when do my guns start doing damage?

I should have just gone arcane
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>>163490979
>So when do my guns start doing damage?
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Ringing at Ludwig, password is bbg
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>Loran Darkbeast does its AoE attack 6 fucking times in a row
Is this necessary
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>>163493089
What level? Lamp or fog?

Honestly, these things should be mentioned by default.
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>>163493438
52, and fog
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>>163490979
>I should have just gone arcane
Bloodletter.
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>>163490979
Gun damage is dependent on the Bloodtinge stat and upgrade level. The pistol and blunderbuss aren't very good for raw damage, the Evelyn, found in a later side area, has some highest gun damage, the Cannon is another high damage gun. Arcane does nothing for guns, it makes Hunter Tools (your spells) better, and some weapons, and any weapon converted to elemental damage using fire/bolt/arc gems, better.
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>>163493089
>>163493557
>Some fucking Vileblood trying to steal my co-op

Ringing again.
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>>163493397
Just dodge through the AOE and wail on its legs. It's easy to time
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>>163493850
>cooperaters can be blood drunk too
huh
I thought that that can only happen if you yourself were summoned
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why was Rom atop the altar that you use to resurrect the Vileblood Queen?

did Ebrietas hope to resurrect Rom with it?
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I'm going to bring along Valtr when we fight Ludwig this time.
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>>163496775
Ludwig's charge attack is dodged by rolling sideways.
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>>163496936
I know, I was just right under him when he did it.
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>summoned for Rom
>turns to the host and rears up to launch meteorites
>dash up to her ass to lay into her
>destroyed by meteorites
You cheeky fuck
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I think I'll try Ludwig again tomorrow.
Thanks for your help anyway, Executioner Man.
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>>163496726
Maybe it isn't rom but just another eye spoida
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I fought Micolash in ng+ yesterday and I see that by ng++ or ng+++ he will probably have the same problem many DeS bosses had in the ng+s where they basically take your entire life bar in damage from one attack
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Does the game of the year edition of bloodborne have any significant differences from the base like Scholar of the First Sin does for DaS2?

GOTY edition is like $40 but I can get the base for like $8 used at walmart, and I'm sure the DLC is cheaper
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>>163497937
Just don't get hit nibba
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>>163498114
>Does the game of the year edition of bloodborne have any significant differences from the base like Scholar of the First Sin does for DaS2?

no
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>>163498114
>buying an eternal game like Bloodborne used
Not a great idea if you want to play it in 20 years, senpai
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is the collector's edition worth the buy?

im thinking of getting the 2 guides as well
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>>163498392
What difference does that make? 20 years from now I don't think the game will be broken based on whether it was new or used, that's something you find in like a few months time
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>>163499335
muh disc rot
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>>163498392
>>163499335
>>163498114

>not buying the sealed goty edition to keep and a used copy to play
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>>163499335
Scratches and areas of wear and tear are more subject to failure over time. You want a pristine disc for it to last as long as possible.
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>>163498260
That doesn't really make for fun combat

Source: Cursed chalice dungeon bosses
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I have 2 trophies left for plat:
Acquire all weapons
Get the ending where Gherman kills you

Can I do this in one playthrough? I haven't played in months and I thought you had to kill Gherman to get his scythe? Am I fucked?

I would really like to get the plat and put this great game to rest.
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So is a flat wheel still better than nourishing if you do things other than dash r1? How does the revving come into play with that, because in frc I usually manage to keep it revved for fights.
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>>163500620
Just savescum the ending.
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>>163500772
Nourishing and revving go hand in hand and work best on an arc build. Flat is primarily dash r1.
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>>163500772
Revving is % based, so Nourishings would be better for it. Flat is really for multi-hits, anything else will usually hit harder especially if you rev with a Nourishing setup. This is for 25/50 Str/Arc, not sure how 50/25 would play out.
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>>163500789
I didn't realize this was an option, thanks.

I looked it up and it seems like the usb method is the best unless somebody knows a better, easier way?
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>>163501190
USB or Online Storage, I find the USB to be a little quicker.
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Anybody down for Amelia on NG?

Pass is bbg
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>>163500620

Can't you get the burial blade in the chalice dungeons then have him kill you for it to count?
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>>163501478
You have to unlock it in the shop to get it from a chalice dungeon.
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>>163501423
Mobile won't let me delete this post but I went ahead and soloed it
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>>163501704
You don't, you can get it from the CD's without having it unlocked
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Anyone need some extra blood echoes on a new character? Can clear out my Yharnam map on NG+8 for ya

If not, I'm available to help with whatever you might need.
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>>163503601
Yeah summon me in famalam
Pass?
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>>163503815

Pass is :^), will be at Central Yharnam.
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>>163503880
Thx bb
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Sorry that took so long, killing everything in that map takes awhile. Hope that helps with your build!
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>>163500620
>put this great game to rest.
THE NIGHTMARE SWIRLS AND CHURNS U N E N D I N G
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Is the cane whip a good starting choice? I want to do a blood tinge build but I started with a saw cleaver for my other character already
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>>163503601
Dang ol' beast man with the blood man and them dang ol' aliens man I tell ya what.
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>>163506729

Amen
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yall i put the game down and dont exactly remember where i am. trying to pick it back up without spoiling too much. can someone help me piece it together and maybe give a slight nod in the proper direction?
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>>163506823
Damn shame you can't get four summons, we could make Dale, Bill, and Hank cosplay builds and all summon each other so we curb stomp the game as the entire King of the Hill gang
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>>163506994

In the hunters dream, go to the highest tombstone available next to the Doll and tell us the name of the lowest area you have unlocked.
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>>163506994
Do you remember the last boss you killed?
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Hotbox Beast
Help please
Pass is bbg
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>>163507085
well now im experiencing ps4 trouble.....
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>>163507817
SRRCing in
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Loran Darkbeast continues to serve as a reminder of why CRF Loran chalices are objectively the worst choice for spelunking. There is not a single boss aside from Pthumerian Descendant that is more anti-fun.
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>>163507817
I really walked in there with a tonitrus for the darkness. I thought you meant hotdog at first.
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>>163508242
For the beginning* I hate mobile posting
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>>163508242
Nah,mistyped hitbox as hotbox.
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Is there any way to trivialize the OoK fight? I just want to play around with the Kos Parasite with my squishy arc build and this is becoming no fun at all.
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>>163508587
Summoning someone helps, but ultimately there's very little you can do to full on make the fight easy.
Loch Shield helps in his second phase when he bounces around and keeps throwing his placenta orbs everywhere.
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>>163508020
Loran Darkbeast isn't actually that hard once you figure out how to work him over. He goes down right quick when you do, breaking his limbs one after the other without giving him a chance to power up.

This is said from the position of an arc build with a fire Whirly, though, so my opinion might be a touch biased. 3K damage running heavies have spoiled me a bit, for sure.
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>>163508587
Slot some 22.3% Droplets on a Saw, pop a BB Pellet, Fire Paper and do this >>163478657
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Going through the DLC now and I can safely say this is the least amount of fun I've had with any of the souls games. The bosses are just ass and I don't want to play the game anymore because playing the game right now amounts to spending five minutes strafing around ayylmaos and then getting oneshot by a random meteor. It's a miracle I managed to kill Ludwig after twenty-something attempts and I'm sure the next boss is going to be just as awful. All I wanted was a Bloodletter but now I just want to delete this strength/bloodtinge character and start a new build. A build that doesn't need anything from this god awful DLC.
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>>163509581
>Old Hunters
>the bosses are just ass
Wew, not a lot of people here will agree with you mate.

Living Failures is the only boss that's not fucking great in the DLC imo. Just hide behind the flower tower in the middle when they summon the big meteors, I think they always fly from the same direction.
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>>163509581
>He's actually having trouble with The Living 4channers
Jesus anon, how much of a shitter are you? Failures are Celestial Emissary-tier.
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>>163509581
>having trouble with Living Lucys
Lmao, just unzip them with your Chikage to death. Literally the easiest boss in the DLC
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Who wants a fresh, unexplored CRF Ihyll glyph to check out? I just made one.
Glyph is anqc6urk. Can't tell you what's in there because I literally just opened it up, but if there are any other spelunkers online then go nuts.
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Is there any way to skip past these lower tier chalice dungeons and go for the higher ones?

Also should I work on my bloodtinge/str build or bloodtinge/skill build tonight?
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>>163511076
>Skl/Blt

Nah, just pummel through em asap. Str/Blt.
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>Farming Watchers
>Just want normal 27% gems
>Keep getting all these rare as fuck drops that I have no use for

This is making me way angrier than it has any right to, good lord.
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>>163509581
How in the fuck can you beat Ludwig and choke on the Failures?
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>>163511271
>Literally every normal tempering gems I've gotten have been HP depletes

Fucking hell I just want my gems. I swear I had an easier grind on my goddamn arc build than this.
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>>163511476
By being literal trash.
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Is there any way to make the Stake Driver useful? It's cool as fuck.
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>>163512014
50/25 Str/Skl, 1 Heavy 2 27.2% Physical gems. Or 50+ Arc, Fire setup and Oil Urns for those tricked charge r2s. Lead Elixirs to prevent getting interrupted, or just time it right.
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>>163512014
upgrade it and put gems in it???
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>>163512254
>>163512264
Does it have a single attack you should spam like most other weapons?
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>>163512510
No? Why would you spam single attacks?
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>>163512883
Because almost every weapon has one button that's just way better than the rest of the moveset?
Like Saif's crazy advancing R1, or the tricked Wheel's dash R1.
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>>163513045
>not using a weapon's whole moveset
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>>163513319
>using inferior moves for no reason
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>>163513339
>being so garbage that you need to spam a weapon's "most effective move" to stand a chance in an encounter
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>>163513370
>gimping yourself
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>>163513339
>not revving your Wheel for one-shot r2s
>not using Saif delayed untricked r1s and untrick to trick lung attack
Why do shitters always play so boringly?
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>>163513398
>being so boring and predictable
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>>163513413
>>163513541
Boring wins more than fun.
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>>163513565
>caring about winning over having fun
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>>163513565
Nobody likes to fight boring. Ever wonder why shitters who use the same tired, boring tactics get called out in bbg FCs? Because it's not fun to fight against.
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>>163513610
Why is whether you're having fun at all relevant to me?
"Waah your playstyle isn't FUN I'm not having FUN" it's always the fucking same with you scrubs. Adapt.
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ahhh shut up i'm sick of reading your stupid posts
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>>163513413
>>163513541
I didn't know that fun was purely a function of how many different attacks players are using.
Apparently timing, spacing etc can't be fun? But using slow, underpowered, impractical attacks is?
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All it takes is one or two retards to completely ruin a thread.

Good job, retards.
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So i've got 15 vit 46 arcane and base everything else.

Do I go for arcane stake driver build?
What's an offhand for it that I can use when not charging r2.
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>>163513853
Using the same attack over and over makes you predictable as fuck, even with timing and spacing. A single attack doesn't triumph the rest of the moveset every time, and there's rarely any impractical attacks. Slow can throw people off too.
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>>163514149
Only took about 200 posts. That's pretty good for current-state bbg
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>>163514203
Why did you bother to tell us how much vit you have?
Why do you only have 15? Never mind, I don't care.
Why did you stop at 46 arcane?
Why would only use charge R2s?
Why would assume some weapon is a better back up than another?
Your entire post and everything about it has me seething with anger.
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So how much worse does this run on PS4 Pro?
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>>163514368
Useless post with no real informational input.

I'm teeming with rage.
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Post webms
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>>163514675
It's exactly the same apparently
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>>163514892
...I have a bunch.
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>>163514892
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>>163514892
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>>163515412
is that dog supposed to do that I haven't played this game but I've been lurking
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>>163514892
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>>163515579
Weird stuff happens during co-op, the green aura around that anon means he's a cooperator.
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Question. What does Beast claws scales best with? Thinking of making a 40/40 str/skl character
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>>163515952
Str-leaning Quality, go 50/25+ instead.
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>>163515994
Alright, thanks
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Anyone wanna run through mergos loft top? We can meet at the base lantern. Password is bbg
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>>163515025
What the fuck
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I'm 50Str/25Skl/25Arc
Only using whirligig and HMLS so far, what else should I check out? Especially stuff I can use while farming nourishings for my moonlight sword.
Anything that makes really short work of Amygdala?
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Can you still see ghosts and player messages without PS+?

This is gonna be my only PS4 game for a while (besides let it die I guess, might as well check that since its f2p), so I'm not sure if I wanna spend that much on the online for just this game.

Kinda sucks when you think about the super long term that if you don't play for like, years but suddenly want to jump back in with a friend you'd both have to renew your subscription if you haven't used it for years.
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Reminder: drink your lead elixir every time you meet a spammer, it works wonders.
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>>163516492
>Can you still see ghosts and player messages without PS+?

Unfortunately, no.
Paid online is my main gripe with PS4 in general.
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>>163516461
Any Strength/Quality weapon. Wheel, Tonitrus and Boomhammer with Nourishings, or Blunts on Wheel and Boomhammer. Stake Driver for jump cheesing Amy with tricked charge r2s.
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>>163516696
Wheel on a 50/25? Isn't Wheel more of a 25/50 weapon where you abuse the multi hitting R2s and dash R1?
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>>163516674
Paid online has a purpose. Though it should be cheaper.
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>>163516794
When will this meme die.
Just use weapon's moveset like normal, besides the dash attack is just fine like this.
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>>163516794
Base stats Wheel with Flat Arc already performs great with the multi-hits so 50/25 can still use it effectively. You could stick to mainly untricked and slot in Blunt gems too. Nourishings on 50/25 can work fine as well, maybe not as well as 25/50 revved up but it'll still hit hard.
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Any of you crazy fucks up for early AM Ludwig? I'm a shit ARC noob and low level trying to get the sword for my wife's character as a surprise. BL 44. Gonna ring at the fog. Pass:

bbg
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>>163516893
>Paid online apologists

There is no reason you should be charged to use the internet you're already paying for, no matter how cheap the additional fee is. PS+ should be separate from online functionality and anyone that says otherwise is fucking retarded. Sure, by all means give people the option to pay extra to get extra, free games, cloud storage and whatever else PS+ gives, but keep that away from online functionality.

Paid online is the biggest fucking scam and I'm legitimately mad that people just put up with it and let it become the standard. Maybe it'd be better if they actually improved the network or made things more stable, but they fucking don't.

Fuck paid online, fuck Microsoft for starting it, fuck anyone that thinks it's fine. It isn't. Fuck.
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>>163517138
Grow up and get over it because it's not changing.
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>>163517123
On my way, just give me a few and I'll be there
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>>163517225
Cool, ringing.
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>>163517265
Ringing by fog
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>>163517138
I agree.

Then games that have their own sub fees bring the shit to a whole new level.
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>you guys are still alive
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>>163517327
[Already dead]
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>>163517138
>>163516674
Damn. I want to avoid paid online just on the principal of the matter, and it's not like I'm gonna play any other major online games (I can't even think of any that aren't shooters, which I really prefer M+KB for)

But on the other hand I really want to play with /bbg/ and my friend who's been telling me to get bloodborne for like a year so we can coop.

Fucking god damn you Sony. No paid online was like the whole reason I bought a ps3 over a 360 10 years ago
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Need help with camera beast, bloodtinge was a mistake. BL 60 pass is cunt

On a side note, can you tell me if my name is censored?
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>>163517375
It's $50 a year; not too bad.

Plus you can always try that two-week trial scam some people do.
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>>163517375
However shitty paid online is as a concept, at the very least the price on PS+ isn't as disgustingly bloated as XBLive. And honestly, however much I hate it, I wouldn't give away my time spent co-oping or invading or fight clubbing in this game for the world.

>>163517441
Sure thing, on my way.
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Fucking hell. This build against this boss is frustrating. I hit like a limp dick.
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>>163517597
Ugh, fucked up my dodge. Ringing again in case you didn't get him
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Should I summon Valtr? I've never tried him against Ludwig?
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>>163517715
Wait a fucking second that's not me >>163517441.
Nigga stole my cooperator!
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I dodged right the fuck into that. Ugh. I don't know what my problem is. I think I've killed this fuck fifty times.
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>>163509317
I'm an arc build too, just got the whirly. How should i gem it up? Also, is hms a prime secondary weapon?
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>>163517718
Valtr is actually one of the better NPCS so it's your choice
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>>163517784
I was replying to Ludwig anon
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>>163518019
Oh, that's fine then. Stills waiting for someone though.
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At this rate I'll run out of insight. Never had a this much trouble before.
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>>163517894
I have mine gemmed with a radial cold abyssal with +5.6% vs open foes, a cold triangle with +15 fire and a Hotdog abyssal. It works best as a fire weapon because that way it functions as an all-star beastslayer, and Oil Urns make short work of just about anything. I wasn't kidding when I said 3K damage running heavies. It's fucking ridiculous.

Moonlight Sword is good too, yes. Hitting things with the sword won't do as much damage as you'll want it to, but the L2 and the moonbeams, as well as the untrick attack, do some big numbers. Plus for PvP literally like everyone will walk into your R2 followups and just die, and that never stops being funny.

>>163517441
Where are you ringing, and are you set to worldwide? I've been sitting in Lower Loran layer three with my small res on for a while now, still haven't gotten you.
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>>163517441
>It's another "Vileblood not wearing the Vileblood rune" episode

I wish I could purge you so bad right now.

Your name is censored, by the way.
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>>163518132
>At this rate I'll run out of insight. Never had a this much trouble before.
What are you fighting?
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>>163518180
Sorry about that. Beckoning again.
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THANK YOU! Do you need help elsewhere? I can switch to my stronger character.

>>163518396
Ludwig as ARC.
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>>163518492
No prob, I'm alright. Also ignore the tripfag.
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>>163518492
Spam EG, that's what I did as Arc.
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>>163518409
I swear I'm not normally this bad at Loran Darkbeast. It's super early and I didn't sleep last night, and it's probably impacting my performance. That or I just suck, could be either.
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>>163518364
I expected this and changed it, dumb executioner.

Beckoning again, he's too much for this wet noodle. Is the dumb or the cunt part that is censored?
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>>163518770
>is it the dumb or the cunt

Take a guess.
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>>163503601
>>163504891
You still around m8? I wouldn't mind a boost. Are we doing bosses too?
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>>163517441
You should have gone Str-Tinge. The Axe or Bloodletter rek the Camera Beast.
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>>163518852
Well, it could be both. Thank you kind executioner.
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>>163519032
Happy to help, I'm a weirdo and find Loran Darkbeast fun.
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how does one build strength arcane

should I go 25 str / 50 arc, or vice versa, or neither
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>>163519254
25/50 if you want to be able to play with all the tools
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>>163519254
Depends on what you want to get out of it. I prefer 25/50 or 20/50 as it is in my case because it's more versatile, but I'm sure one could make a case for 50/25. Wheel and Moonlight Sword are both great,plus with 50 arc you get access to cold abyssals which mean you can use literally anything as long as you meet the minimum requirements.
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>>163519330
>>163519353
thanks mates, 25/50 it will probably be
the guides on the wheel are a mathematical quagmire
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Currently grinding Bloodletting Beast for heavy abyssals if anyone wants to get in on it. Glyph is swjteujh, pass is bbghlblb. Uploading to USB while I go and get some food, will start ringing if I have any replies when I get back.
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>>163519512
Building for the Wheel is actually super simple:

If 50 strength, temperings or blunt adepts.
If 50 arc, nourishing abyssals.
If twink/vitgouge, brainsucker temperings.

Arc Wheel gets huge benefits from revving it, so be sure to make regular use of that and laugh at the comically high damage numbers you throw around.
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Anyone up for Co-op through old Yharnam? Leave Djura alone though I want the gesture. Pass is bbg01 and I'm level 21
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>>163519353
Is there ever any reason to go above 50 arcane?
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>>163519916
Tools scale all the way to 99.
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>>163519938
Okay, but are tools worth investing into? They seem just as useless as magic in Souls games.
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>>163519664
thanks for this breakdown, also for what particular reason would you go 20 strength over 25?

>>163519938
wouldn't you inevitably wind up overlevelled?
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>>163520126
>wouldn't you inevitably wind up overlevelled?
Not if you have laughable lowly vit.
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>>163520126
The only reason my arc build is 20/50 and not 25/50 is because I built specifically for the Wheel way back when, and way back then I made a decision to level to 20 endurance because the Wheel is kind of stamina heavy. I know now it would have been better to go 25/15 str/end instead, but by the time I figured that out I'd already invested so much time and grinding so many gems I didn't want to bother going through it all again.

It's not so bad, really. The damage difference isn't that big and it's honestly kind of nice being able to throw four R2s in a row and not care. None of this is relevant if you're planning on building higher than 98 either, because you can easily hit all the proper numbers by going to 110 instead. It all depends on what your build plan is.
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>>163520083
70+ Arc A Call Beyond nukes most bosses pretty quickly. Exe gloves for anything that moves quickly is useful. Hunter Tools in PvP help switch things up.
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>>163507064
Could get all of you in a dungeon, and one of you be an invader.
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Alright.

The fucker of mothers known as the orphan of kos has torn me not one but about 5 brand new assholes.

Im gonna break and use my ps+ trial. Someone tell me how to use the online and call for someone to help me, I have no idea how this shit works.
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>>163520640
Ring the beckoning bell (it will cost you one point of insight)
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>>163520718
Just that?

Im guessing I have to exit the game and go into online mode or something no?
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>>163520743
Oh well yeah you'll have to go to the main menu and select play online
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>>163520640
Network settings, set to Worldwide, put a password, post it here and ring the Beckoning Bell near fog or lamp. Level doesn't matter but some people like to be prepared/switch to a Twink in case you're low leveled.
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>>163520640
>>163520743
When you're in online mode, if you want to summon randoms, you just ring your beckoning bell and that's it. If you want to specifically summon someone from here or elsewhere, you go into your settings, go to network, punch in a password and then ring. Then only people with a matching password will get summoned.

It seems a little complicated at first, but it's actually really simple.
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>>163520793
Alright will do that.

>>163520812
>>163520854
Gimme a sec, my ps4 is in the other room. I'll do all that and come back. Im level 106 or 107 I cant check right now. NG+
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Let's brighten the general up a bit with a survey.

>Favorite primary weapon
>Favorite secondary weapon
>Favorite attire
>Favorite area
>Favorite boss fight
>Favorite NPC
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>>163520531
Switch things up in what sense?
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>>163520918
>Favorite primary weapon
Kirkuyolight Cutter
>Favorite secondary weapon
Steak Dinner
>Favorite attire
Maria's Hat, Hunter Trenchcoat (B), Doll Gloves, Charred Boots
>Favorite area
Isz
>Favorite boss fight
Ludia
>Favorite NPC
Eileen
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Ok im in the room with the slug people, rung my bell

Password is bbg5
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>>163521010
Add pressure, stagger with Gloves, knock down with Augur, AoE with Brew, etc. A Call Beyond is kinda bad for PvP though since most people know how to dodge it, but when it hits it hurts.
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>>163521182
Anyone here to help?
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>>163514892
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>>163521182
You will have better luck ringing in the room with the lamp. Also, sharing your level.
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>>163521401
lvl 104.

What room with the lamp? The one above the elevator, the hut?
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>>163520918
Let's do this.

>Favorite primary weapon
Threaded Cane

>Favorite secondary weapon
Rakuyo

>Favorite attire
Hunter Garb (2), Grey Wolf cap, Gascoine's trousers, Gascoine's gloves

>Favorite area
Cainhurst

>Favorite boss fight
Gehrman

>Favorite NPC
Eileen
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>>163521182
>>163521340
Ringadingin'. Don't listen to the trip, by the by. He never plays anyway.
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>>163521469
>Vileblood

I'll go switch my rune quick.
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>>163521443
Yeah, since you can ride the elevator down to that area anyway, and people can help you without needing to clear the area first.
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>>163520918
>rakuyo
>moon blade
>top hat/gehrman garb/constable's gloves/maria trousers
>nightmare of mensis
>orphan
>arianna
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>>163521543
Oh it was you? I was like hold on why did this guy just cave my fucking teeth in.

I'll ring again.
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>>163520918
>Favorite primary weapon
I fell in love with the Saw Cleaver as soon as I tested the moveset
>Favorite secondary weapon
Beast Cuttah
>Favorite attire
Too many to list
>Favorite area
Central Yharnam
>Favorite boss fight
Gehrman
>Favorite NPC
The Doll of course
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Anyone wanna help a level 33 defeat amy? Im going for early claws

Pass is bbg
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>>163520918
>Favorite primary weapon
Kos parasite
>Favorite secondary weapon
Threaded cane
>Favorite attire
Madman garb
>Favorite area
Research hall
>Favorite boss fight
Orphan of Kos
>Favorite NPC
Alfred
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>>163521182
orphan? how many players? I like this fight
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>>163521469
>implying I am not ringing in the lamp room right now
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>>163521623
i'll help you bro, the orphan fight looks full
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>>163521636
just one so far

HOLY Fuck I just got destroyed.

I'll ring again. come on we got this.
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>mfw running all 3 beast runes, beast's embrace, beast claws, ashen hunter set, and 0 insight
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>>163521739
Thanks. Im outside the boss room. I havent done this fight in a while so i might be a bit rusty
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>>163521623
where are you ringin? fog?
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>>163521774
Is it fun?
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>>163521770
i'll help then after we get the amy
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>>163521845
Yes
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FUCK SAKE! WHOEVER HELPED AT AMY SORRY. I FUCKING FORGOT THE FUCKING COMBO SHE DOES WITH EXTENDED ARMS
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Ok fagy, nice try we'll get this orphan fuck dw.

I gotta go farm some bloodviles for 10 minutes Be right back.
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>>163522008
don't worry
when she removes her arms, just runs below her and wait until she jumps
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So tell me why does he wear the cage?
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>>163520918
>Primary
Tossup between the Wheel and the Stake Driver. I love the design on both of them, and they both feel so good to swing around, the Wheel in particular. Though nothing quite feels the same as landing the rocket punch and just deleting something.

>Secondary
Moonlight Sword, with Beast's Embrace in close second. Bloodborne's Moonlight Sword is the single most satisfying iteration of it throughout all of the games, and it's super good on top of that. Beast's Embrace just feels fantastic, really nails the feral, vicious combat that a blood-drunk beast would have. My only complaint with it is that the jump attack is just a cool as fuck flying leap and not a psycho crusher instead.

>Attire
Assuming you mean set and not a combination of my own, I think it's probably the Graveguard set. The mask, the tools hanging off the robe, it all looks so eerie and makes me wonder just what the fuck Dores even did. Though I'm also fond of the Executioner set and the way it highlights their fanaticism, what with the divots and, well, the fucking cone.

>Area
I actually really like Yahar'Gul. The atmosphere is so good, what with the bodies belted into the walls, the Cramped Caskets, the dead Snatchers scattered about. Real shame traversing the area is so shitty, and that it leads to such a lame boss.

>Boss
Gehrman, hands down. Ludwig is second, and for the same reasons as Gehrman. The atmosphere is phenomenal, the music is amazing, the fight itself is intense. Just stellar, both of them.

>NPC
Alfred. Oh, Alfred. Such a calm, collected man, wanting only to help a fellow hunter on this most dreadful of nights, and yet when he gets the summons to Cainhurst, and finds his way into the queen's chamber, he lets that signature Executioner fanaticism fly. Not to mention his voice actor fucking aced it on the dialogue. Goddamn.

>>163522229
No one cared who he was until he put on the cage.
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>>163480776
I know I'm late but I still wanna post my hoontahs.
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are you guys still fighting orphan or did you get him?
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Thank you moonlight bro
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>>163522365
>Not one, but two white-haired prettyboys

At least you didn't give them one red eye and use the Chikage.
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Ok im in slug room, ringing

Password still bbg5

>>163522449
Yep I had to farm some blood vials I hope 50 is enough.

Hop on in, we could use one more.
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Do you think the church created a surrogate?
If ye, do you think they used the pthumerian queen Yharman?
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>>163522449
I think it was all just a ruse. I have been ringing this whole time.
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>>163522509
I'll be a bit, gotta take care of something. Shouldn't take more than five or ten minutes, but don't wait up if you get someone else.
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>>163522509
i'll fight with luci and his big wirghsaw?
fuck yeah :3
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>>163522497
Well, I just like white hair.
Also the right one is a girl.
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>>163522613
Luci hasnt joined yet, we're waiting for >>163522583

>>163522553
Oh shit are you ringing in the hut? That must be why.
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>>163522229
That cage is ________for big guys
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>>163522365
Of all the characters you could've replicated, you chose Sephiroth and Cloud's gay cousins
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is 50 str 25 arc superior to 25/50 in any way?
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>>163522740
No, I rushed through the level to the slug room.
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>>163522671
She would have made a great boy
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god that fucker hits like a truck.

ringing again.
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>>163522740
In the event of summoning Lucy, for the love of god, please use your Silencing Blank to kick him. Trust me.

Ringing my small res again, he went for me right as I went to pop my blood bullets.
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Game must still be going strong. Just got multiple ratings on my messages while I have been waiting.
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>>163522903
is that ng+?
dude is so aggressive, did we kill his mother or something?
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>run into the battle with 90% health
>dies in few hits
gee I wonder why, luci
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>>163522992
yeah its ng+

This fucker's been doing this to me all day.
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>>163523132
Wut?
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Hmmmm boy that was juicy. Nice gangbang lads

You guys up for laurence as well? Gimme a few minutes to run back there and all.
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>>163523383
Absolutely up for Laurence. Lamp or fog?
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>>163523383
>made of fire
>beast
are fire papers working on him??

>>163523206
you're like the retarded cousin every family have, I still love you anyway bro :3
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>>163523436
I'll ring at the fog. Let me deal with all these echoes first

I think fire paper works, not sure
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>>163523559
Laurence, being that he's made of fire, is understandably resistant to fire. Bolt works real well though.

>>163523482
Why are you encouraging this kind of behavior, nothing good will come of it.
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>>163523482
I never even got summoned tho
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Hold up guys I haven't been in this part of the nightmare in a while, I got lost.

I did find amygdala arm tho, that's neat
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>>163523830
If you're there, you're too far. Laurence is right up the path from the Hunter's Nightmare lamp, in the Grand Cathedral at the top of the stairs.
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Took off password and got instantly summoned by someone.
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>>163523939
Yup

Damn that was smooth. Laurence didn't even know what hit him
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>>163476131
just got a ps4 (for bloodborne).

Playing offline (no PS+).

Souls veteran, looking for a difficult first run.

What stat/weapon makes for a difficult first run? I will be going in blind besides this so there's a good chance it will take me a long time to find the weapons for example if I specialise in magic
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Thanks guys. That was fun. I guess that's the end of the dlc huh.

I'm gonna run through the game and finish ng+ now. Thanks again lads
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>>163524253
BLT, Chikage only.
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>>163524253
use the tread cane, it'll be enough
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>>163520918
>Favorite primary weapon
Saif or Reiterpallasch
>Favorite secondary weapon
Burial Blade
>Favorite attire
Maria's
>Favorite area
Fishing Hamlet
>Favorite boss fight
Kos or Ludwig
>Favorite NPC
Doll or Eileen
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hey so I know this may not be the most on topic place to ask but, since I just activated my 14 day trial, anything interesting I can do with it? Aside from playing online with you fine folks?
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>>163524358
What makes Chikage hard?
>>163524394
What makes thread cane hard?
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>>163524771
Self-Damage to get the most damage out of it.
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>>163524771
Both are late bloomer weapons, though chikage means building for BLT, and all the weapons that use it are mid game at best, which means crippling yourself for the start.
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>>163524734
You can access chalice glyphs, which means you can max out your characters equipment way faster than you would if you were playing offline. You can also try your hand at PvP, if that's anything you're interested in.

>>163524771
Threaded Cane is tough early game but gets good late, Chikage is just kind of ass.

Honestly, if it's your first run, you'll probably have a bit of a rough time to start with no matter what weapon you use. Just try everything out, see how it feels and stick with what you like.
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Thoughts on tentacle face?
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>>163524771
in fact, the good answer is >>163525087
especially if you were playing with a shield
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What is the best theme in the game and why is it Ludwigs second phase
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>mfw summoning olek for the hotdog fight in first pthumeru chalice

Is there anymore useless npc summon in the game? He got killed in like two hits and never healed.

Also, why does micolash have a bigger cage than all the other mensis students?

>>163524771
Weak early game
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What's the best gem setup for 50/25/25 Moonlight Sword? Heavy abyssal and two 27's? Three nourishings? Some mix of a heavy abyssal and nourishings?
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>>163525213
kos parasite is great fun
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>>163525550
>Is there anymore useless npc summon in the game?

Henriett might as well be an actual raccoon for all the good she does.
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>>163524771
forget the chikage you'll never find it if you're doing a blind run
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>>163525616
looks like the arc won't be useful but I'll go for one heavy, and 2 nourishing
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I'm leve 107 right now
Should I level up to 117 or stay at 107?
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>>163526065
The arc contributes to the damage on all your swings and makes your beams hit stupidly hard.
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>>163525670
Aren't most of its attacks too slow to be useful, other than the dash R1?
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Why did From changed the drop ratings? To prevent farming?
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>>163526312
between 100-120 is ideal for playing with /ddg/, otherwise it's up to you
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>>163526312
>>163526753
*/bbg/ my mistake
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>>163526753
So 117 is fine?
Though I'm not sure where I'd even put those 10 points... Or is this build bumfuck retarded and I should just drop this character altogether?
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>>163526753
there's still FCs?
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>>163480776
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>>163480776
We posting hunters now?

We posting hunters now.
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>>163480776

R8
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>>163527983
good
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>>163527983

Looks like a massive fag, 3/10.
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>>163527983
Another white-haired Vileblood. Nothing new or interesting. She's a five at best.

The face is p good though, if a little pale.
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>>163527983
Cute, like a female Alucard (Castlevania)
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>>163520918
>>Favorite primary weapon
Whirlygig Saw.
>>Favorite secondary weapon
Amygdalan Arm.
>>Favorite attire
White Church Robe, no head, Tomb Prospector Gloves and Legs.
>>Favorite area
Forsaken Castle Cainhurst.
>>Favorite boss fight
Orphan of Kos.
>>Favorite NPC
Djura.
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>>163527983
nice qjutie
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how to farm echoes fast for a fresh character?
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>>163520918
>Favorite primary weapon
Kirk
>Favorite secondary weapon
Rosy
>Favorite attire
White church set (F)
>Favorite area
Cainhurst
>Favorite boss fight
Gehrman
>Favorite NPC
Imposter Cumdumpster
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>>163529130
Get the tonsil stone and farm in the nightmare lecture hall
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>>163529130
Just rush through the game and chalices. By depth 4 chalice or lecture/mergo loft you can easily get lots.
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>>163526939
bring vitality up to 50
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>put points into Skill
>I didn't get any better
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I WANT TO MARRY AND HAVE CONSENSUAL SEX WITH THE DOLL WHILE WE HOLD HANDS IN MISSIONARY POSITION!
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>>163530985
>While we hold hands

Get the fuck out of this general and never come back.
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>>163530919
what weapon anon, some skl weapons only get good when at +7
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>>163530985
>>>/skg/
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>>163530985
the doll is the worst maiden in any souls game
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>>163530985
The Doll is basically an onahole. She has been used by multiple hunters.
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>>163531247
>>163531261

take that back
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>>163530985
Spoopy
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>>163530919
Skill doesn't make you better, just increase the damage of some weapons and visceral.
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>>163531427
>that pic

What are you implying anon?
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>>163531247
I disagree

>>163531261
She's just like me then, we are made for each other.
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>>163531563
it is all thanks to doll
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>>163531427
This is reaching.
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>>163531416
Gehrman might have fucked her at one point, anon. And not just Gehrman.
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>>163531247
tfw Alsana should've been level-up girl in DaS3

one mcfucking job
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>>163531631
Think so? I think it's pretty obvious. It's her outfit minus the shawl.
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>>163531631
>>163531810
There's this, too. The brain is actually made of Messengers.
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>>163531678
quiet you
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>>163527983
would have as waifu/10
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>>163531895
>>
Is there any point in going around with high insight or is it purely for the sake of difficulty?
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>>163532145
not unless you're saving up for rocks and you want to see some cool shit, no
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>>163532145
You can see the lesser Amygdalas if you hav the over 40. Also in Hemwick more of the scarecrow demon things pop up.
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>>163531895
Isn't Mother Brain also made of messengers?
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>>163514892
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what's the difference between regular great ones and old great ones?
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>>163532775
One's old.
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>>163532775
how do you get that
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Alright boys anyone wanna help me out with the shadows of yahrnam? I just lost 200k souls to these fucks and im a lil salty.

Pass is bbg5

Ringing at fog.
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>>163532874
i don't know why but in depth 4 layers of depth 5 chalices
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>>163532890
just died 12 times to hmph so why not
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>>163533109
Not him, but speaking of HMPH, does anybody have that webm of two cooperators walking into a HMPH bossfight, where the host gets cornered and is mauled to death in 5 seconds?
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Well that was easy.

Thanks hoontah.
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>that one anon who posted Heather Mason
Damn, now I want to make Harry Mason in BB. He's on the hunt, looking for his daughter, and nothing will stop him.
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>>163532890
>>163533109
Literally beat this boss blind on my first try.
Just keep running around the area and don't stop moving.
Run in for 2-4 hits then run away again.
Kill fire caster first, then guy with sword, and then the fire sword.
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>>163533542
They're a lot harder on ng+ than on ng anon.

besides, We already took care of them.
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>Beat BSB on first try on literally every playthrough 5 times
>Doing a new playthrough now
>suddenly die 3 times in a row, getting completely shit on
what the fuck is happening
>>
Name one fucking enemy that's more annoying to fight than fucking chalice hellhounds.

Protip: You fucking can't.
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>>163534024
Happens, I got stuck on Rom of all things last playthrough.
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>>163534038
Sharks
Spiders
Whiches
Undead giants
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>>163534038
Red spiders
>aggro you from ten miles away
>always appear in groups
>can't be permanently killed until you kill the bell maiden spawning them
>swarm and block doorways, making it hard to escape
Absolute cancer. Chalice witches and their mad ones are bad too, but at least you can de-aggro them, because they stay in a small area, and there are only three at most.
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>>163532678
Oh man thats hilarious
>>
Is it worth it to buy playstion plus just for bloodborne online? The only ps4 games I have are BB and FFXV (bought a ps4 last month)
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>>163532857
so there's old great ones and young great ones?
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>>163534437
In the Childhood's Beginning ending, you witness the birth of an infant great one, and Mergo, being a baby, is presumably a young great one as well. Contrast to Oedon and Moon Presence, who are both probably ancient, nearly timeless beings.
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>>163534157
I feel like such a shitter suddenly. I'm using the Hunter Axe for the first time on a playthrough and I've died like 5 times now to that grab. No Idea why I'm such a shitter all of a sudden. Definitely tilting right now, which just makes my performance worse.
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>>163534437
Sure. I mean, Great Ones being born is a theme of the game. Amygdala can be interpreted in a bunch of different ways but the most obvious explanation would be that the ones we see around the game are weaker in some way than compared to the actual boss we fight named Amygdala.
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>>163534591
I swear some playthroughs he never uses the grab once during the fight and others he uses it every other move.
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>>163534591
Finally beat him after 6 soul-crushing deaths. I have no idea why I'm so bad now, my spirit has been broken.
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>>163536070
Maybe the Hunter's Axe isn't for you.
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How can one weapon be so fucking good?
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Best way to get me some insight to buy weapon upgrade materials? I'm level 100+ so I can't do coop
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>>163539019
>I'm level 100+ so I can't do coop
Just farm the upgrade materials from depth 5 dungeons then. The bosses drop rocks and chunks, or you can get glyphs for the rocks.
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>>163527630
10/10
Would Hitler be a Vileblood or an Executioner?
>>
anyone wanna help me with rom? Damian cant help for shit.

bb5 ringing on byrgenworth upper floor.
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>>163539019
When I needed blood stone chunks I equipped the 3 eye runes and repeatedly killed the boss of this chalice. I got 1-2 chunks each run, plus 2 insight if you don't get grabbed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_u_iQpZaqE
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>>163525550
try summoning Antal for Paarl and watch as the dumbass runs right into the AOE shock explosion attack over and over again
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>>163539664
bbg5 is the password sorry
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>>163539810
In my defense, I don't know how I died. Ringing again.
>>
>healing church workshop

i fucking wish someone would tell miyazaki that his games are absolute shit tier for 'platforming' and to stop putting these fucking sections in
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>>163540453
did you get gangbanged by the spiders? Yeah those fuckers hurt.

1 hit, half health.
>>
Where is the best place to farm blood vials?
I'm fucking sick of having 300+ bullets and no blood vials.
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>>163540662
i find it easier to fram echos and buy vials, rather than picking up 300 + vials from the floor.

so either middle mensis or hemwick
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>>163540662
Fishing Hamlet drops vials like candy, or you can just go into like Ailing Loran layer one or Lower Loran layer two and farm echoes to buy vials.

I mean, you shouldn't need to be farming in the first place, but barring that, those are two of your better options.
>>
Nice work. That beast transformation really tore her a new ass. Thanks again.

I say be on standby, I might call you for one reborn if I feel like not grinding him either.
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>>163541108
I'm missed rom, and I liek it so much ;_;
Will wait for the reborn one
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>>163540662
kill the brain in mensis, then add the two moon runes, then do loran for min, you should have enough echoes
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Anyone want to keep me company for a few levels? I am going to be going to Forbidden Woods --> Byrgenwerth ---> Yarharhar --->Hemwick --->Cainhurst today.

Pass will be bbg.
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>>163541807
ok ringin at the forbidden wood lantern anon
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Where can I get some bolt gems early? I'm doing a tonitrus build and I've killed Amelia.
And Paarl, of course.
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>>163541929
hamlet has some, but thats not early at all
>>
>arcane build
>level nothing but arcane
>upgrade Flamesprayer
>kill djura for badge
>mfw Oil Urn + Bone Ash + +5 Flamesprayer and 35 Arcane on Amelia

holy mother of fuck she just melted
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>>163542154
oil urn is a really underated tool
>>
t-thanks anon ;_;
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>>163541861
I will switch runes and rering.
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>>163541603
Welp, yahargul really fucked me hardcore.

I cant play anymore though, I have to go pick up my family from the airport. Maybe tomorrow anon.
>>
>farming Watchers for my standard 27.2 tempering
>getting nothing but arcane, bolt, and fire triangles
You stop this
You stop this right this instant
>>
I fucking hate Darkbeast Paarl, the worst boss design since Bed of Chaos. Trying to help out some people, but he's actually mcuh harder when co-oping, since he's spazzing out all over the place and constantly does that AOE attack, it's a fucking joke.
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>>163542851
KYSM anon
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Anyone need any help?
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>>163543009
Uh, what?
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>>163542853
>two arcane triangles in a row
>>
I'm doing an Arcane build, just be Amelia. So far i've been relying on the Flamesprayer and fire consumables for a lot of my damage, i've got a +3 Saw Cleaver and i have the fire waning gem too.

Should i upgrade the cleaver first to get the fire gem in it, since i have 40 Arcane (i haven't levelled anything else) or just keep piling into the flamesprayer?

Also what do you think i should do next? I was thinking of trying to go to Nightmare Frontier and getting a bolt gem? And maybe buying a kirkhammer and putting the bolt gem in that

Or i could just go through woods and pick up the Arcane gem, then grab the summons and rush Cainhurst for wheel. Although doing Cainhurst with base Vit seems like nightmare fuel
>>
I FUCKING HATE FATHER GASCOIGNE
This FUCKING SHITTER is pisses me off so much every time.
>>
What's the best gem for the gatling gun with 6 bloodtinge, shotgun watcher or bsb?
>>
>>163543189
KYS

or some say

KYSM

>>163542345
you're pretty good anon, a pleasure to run with you
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>>163543852
Thanks, boss, you too.You got some nice fashion going to boot. Care to join for Rom?
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>>163543950
kek

thanks
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>>163544223
Ahh nothing like getting one shot.
>>
is the saw cleavers transforming attack the strongest attack with that weapon?
>>
Got the old fuckers DLC today, but no success in accessing it. Tried restoring licences, even made a new char and killed amelia to see what the fuck's going on

hlep
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>>163544454
did you touch Laurence's skull?
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>>163542853
i wish i had fire triangles man
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>>163544454
I'm assuming you know this but just in case...
The stone is given to you by the messengers at the bottom of the stairs in the Hunter's dream after you kill Amelia. Some people think it works like DaS where it's just in your inventory

Also make sure you touch the skull
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>>163543512
i would go with the saw, it literaly can carry you to mergo and the chalices, investing alittle in vit could be a good idea, you cn allways ask for help with logarious here for the wheel
>>
Paarl is a fucking bs boss
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>>163544530
yeah, I tried getting the eye on 3 characters

>one ready to fight MP
>one around mid-game
>one freshly made to test

>>163544652
I touched the skull, it turns to night. Do I need to do it again for the DLC or some shit?
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>>163544718
you get grab by the good amygdala?
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>>163544678
Miyazaki designed him by himself. Be glad it was the only one he was fully responsible for.
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>>163544821
>good amygdala

the one right outside cathedral ward?
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>>163544862
it's ironic that he designed one of the worst bosses in any of his own games.
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>>163544718
make a new game

touch laurence's skull

the item should be in the hunter's dream

if you did already do this i dont know what to tell you other than your game is fucked
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>>163545104
I know how it should go, I even made a new character to test it out.

The fucking messengers with the eye don't appear no matter what I do
>>
anyone fancy running through woods with me?
i know its easy but i've never played this game with anyone before

i'm level 35 sitting at first lantern
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>>163545273
set up a pass and I'll come shitstomp everything with my autism gems
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>>163545339
ok, it's 'bbg'

its not my first playthrough btw so i dont care if you rape everything, but i do wanna grab all the items because i have crippling autism
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>>163544223
change of plans, I'd like to get Micolash out of the way. Care to join?
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i'll stop there anon
your speedruns are jewels of killings, a pleasure
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>>163544223
Scratch that, I've got to go. Thanks for coming with, you beast. I hope to play again sometime.
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>>163545716
I should go to bed, but you're too good
i'm in
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lmao

i swear i'm not actually that bad at this game, that has never happened before.

ringing again...
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>>163545824
ya beefed it kid
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>>163545897
im still ringing if you're around still

password the same and stuff

im a bit further up now though, should i stay by lamp
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Anyone wanna help me with ludwig? I'm level 66 and trying to get the sword. Pass will be ludwig2. As a side note, how should i gem it up for an arc build?
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>>163546062
I'm still ringing
I'm not 100% on how it works but I'm fairly certain you should stick near the lamp if you want to summon faster
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>>163546119
If fucking ricetech worked properly i'd help you anon
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>>163546119
Nourishing gems, generally.
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>>163546119
if you're using the holy sword you'd probably be going 25/50 or 50/25 str/arc

in that case, nourishing gems
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>>163544396
Charge R2 is always the strongest

L1 attacks are 1.30x, charge R2 is 1.90x, jump attack is 1.40x.
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>>163546329
>you'd probably be going 25/50 or 50/25 str/arc
Which of the two is better?
>>
>>163546329
My plan was to go to 70 arc, I've got 18 str atm.
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>>163546643
more arc nets you stronger beams on the tricked mode, more srt nets you more dmg per swing ( mostly on the un tricked mode) and tickle beams
>>
>>163546643
25/50 means you use the beams exclusively
50/25 means you use the untricked R2 thrust exclusively
Bloodborne weapons are not very well thought out, you only ever use a tiny fraction of their movesets
>>
>>163546643
50/25 is better for melee damage, 25/50 is better for moonbeams and the L2 attack.

50 Str will let you use tons of weapons with heavy Abyysals, 50 Arcane will let you use tons of elemental weapons with gems. You can also use the Wheel/Tontrius on the same build, which I personally think work better with 25/50.

You want to use the weapons for thier unique abilities, blunt damage is boring. Arcane, Fire and Bolt damage is exciting.
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>>163546882
>Bloodborne weapons are not very well thought out, you only ever use a tiny fraction of their movesets
What's up with all the shitters today? Is this the power of Christmas?
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Is the bow portion of the bowblade worth using or will Evelyn and my gattling gun/canon work just as well for ranged damage?
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>>163547139
What do the tricked R1 hits actually scale with? Some say mostly arcane scaling, others say it's the same strength-heavy scaling just with a larger portion of the damage converted into magic damage?
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>>163546882
>25/50 means you use the beams exclusively
Fucking bullshit, I use the entirety of the moveset and the untricked form does godly damage.
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>>163547247
The bow portion is what you use the Bowblade for to begin with.
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>>163547247
why not both ? you can juggle with them and trick people into running to your arrows

thats what happens to me
>>
ringing again at lamp if you're still around

i picked up a bunch of items so theres not that much left to get now if you can be bothered

i died at that bit with the two snake giant balls together
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Fugg what do I do. He just keeps laughing at me.
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I just finished that thunder dog thing and now I'm at the fight against that other hunter. But for some reason my quicksilver bullets just dissapear when I'm in the fight. Does anyone know the reason?
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>>163547684
he cant push you if you roll right when youre up the stairs right ?
>>163547826
it could be that you just dont have any left
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>>163546882
>tricked rakuyo
>L1...-R2
>R2-R2
>L2...-R2
>L1-L1...
>L2-L2....
No doubt some weapons are amazing

>>163547247
the bow is the strongest long range weapon
one charged attack +35%, one 27% and one damp 31%, with 50 bt it's 800 per charged hit
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>>163547253
There's no converting or changing of scaling.

Untricked mode is physical + arcane damage, but the arcane damage has halved ATK modifiers compared to physical (so a 1.5x swing does 0.75x arcane damage). Tricked mode is identical except it's 70% instead of 50%. Moonbeams, L2 and L1 attacks have much larger arcane modifiers.

Someone post the image. I don't have it on my phone.
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>>163548029
So 50/25/25 will get great damage on the entirety of the moveset?
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>>163548029
Blue = Arcane
Orange = Blunt
Green = Thrust
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>>163547898
>it could be that you just dont have any left
Just started another one. Had three. Once she starts running at me (so that the fight begins) they instantly disappeared. I also don't get them back when I respawn.
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>>163546882
>Bloodborne weapons are not very well thought out, you only ever use a tiny fraction of their movesets
Are there actually any weapons for which this is true?
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>>163514892
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>>163546119
Good hunters plox, I'm ringing at the lamp
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>>163548245
Chikage
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>clearing forest on arcane build
>have never gotten anything from the kin there before
>got an arcane waning, an arcane triangle, and two triangle tempering

fucking wew lad
i can actually make this build worth a damn now
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Are we going to get a new wave of underaged shitters after Christmas?
There were quite a few new players after Black Friday and they were pretty alright but I'm scared of what'll happen after Christmas.
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>>163547986
my bad I switched R and L sides :^)
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Man, I fucking hate how the Tonitrus only has 100 durability.
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>>163548498
Same thing that happens everywhere. Just tell them to read the OP instead of posting silly questions, and once they familiarize themselves with everything, they won't be a big problem.
I don't see the point in fearing a new wave of players. If anything, look forward to them.
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What's the best arcane variant? Str/Arcane? Pure?
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>>163548498
>being scared of new players
That's what Gascgoine is for, to filter the shitters out.
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what happens if you put arcane boosting gems in a weapon that has an elemental gem? Or two different elements in a weapon?
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>>163548338
On my way, friend. I've only got time for one or two attempts though.
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So we're posting characters now?

TFW I should have went str/blt for bloodletter not sk/blt for chikage.
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>>163548905
>those proportions
what the fuck
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>>163548812
i'm doing pure, but with 20 STR to wield the wheel

I'm gonna go to 70 ARC i think, and im going to use a Wheel, A fire Saw Cleaver for beasts, and a Bolt infused Kirkhammer for bolt shit

I am a total fucking scrub though so i could very well be wrong
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>>163548812
Str/arc for diversity and logarius wheel
Pure for kos parasite
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>>163548338
The lamp being the Nightmare Church?
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It's so hard to not give women man-jaws is FROM games.
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>>163548860
there's a pecking order
I'm not sure off the top of my head but I think it goes arcane-> fire -> bolt
so if you have a bolt gem and a fire gem it'll just do fire damage and any +bolt damage effects are negated since you don't do bolt damage
but if it has +arcane scaling or something like that it might still be useful
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>>163549018
Yessir
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>>163548973
Here's my other one.

>Problem? Let's see yours.
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anyone wanna help me with edgelords of yharnam?

i only have 10 vit so if someone can distract them i can probably 2 shot them with oil/molotovs with my arcane
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>>163548975
What's the point of going to 70 arc?
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>>163549389
STRONGER TOOLS
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>>163549389
again, im not sure but i think blacksky eye has its softcap there

they scale well until 99, but i wanted to put 20 strength into WHEEL and so i could use Kirkhammer to make thors hammer
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>>163547898
I climbed the ladders and he wasn't doing anything. I hit him using an R1 with my cane and then fell down to my death.
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>>163548973
Wow
What exactly were you trying to make here, man? An ogre?
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>>163549465
>>163549538
Seems like wasted points to me, what do tools do for you that whacking them with your weapon doesn't?
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>>163549652
tools do a huge amaount of fucking damage, let you attack from range and have various utility

if you want to whack things with a weapon why wouldnt you play literally ANY other build?
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>>163549652
70 arc is more oriented for pvp, youre right, tools are not that usefull for pve, 70 arc eye recks shit
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Is this an awful idea?
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>>163549113
I forgot to add, gems that add flat elemental damage will also work, but then you'll be doing split damage which is shit anyways
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>>163548901
Thanks m8!
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>>163549350
pls?
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>>163549843
is this a HLB build ?70 arc is too much i would say
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>>163549914
My pleasure, enjoy your guiding moonlight.
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>>163549843
Either drop strength or arc, just make 2 different characters for pure arc and wheel memes
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They're not supposed to be there
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>>163550121
Thanks! Any suggestions on how best to gem it at mid level?
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>>163549949
Trying to use the Wheel and Parasite/Tools/Elemental weapons on the same character.
How terrible is it?
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>>163549917
I can help you but in about an hour, I'm Christmas shopping.
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>>163549917
I can help but shadows of yharnam? pass and fog or lamp?
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>>163550517
its ok i got them

i just played like a total bitch and flamesprayed fucking everything

i think rom will be trickier though, so again, if anyone wants to help
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>>163531427
This isn't surprising to me. Some things in the nightmare are like a distortion of what the hunter sees in the waking world, right?
same reason why the wet nurse looks somewhat like eileen, and the shadow of yharnam enemies show up too
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>>163549350

People running around with 10 vit needing co-op for everything are so lame. If you think 10 vit is enough, you should be skilled enough to finish the entire game solo with it.
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so back when i played BB originally /bbg/ was like the least toxic general on /vg/. has this remained consistently true still?
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A BEAST, A FOUL BEAST
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>>163540462
The easiest way to do it that has a 100% success rate is to stand on the highest level, then roll directly toward the hanging ropes that are on the left as you enter. You'll land it every time.
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>>163550813
Saturdays get toxic, occasionally, when people start shitting on each other during the FC.
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>>163550894
AWAY AWAY
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>>163550663
i dont intend to finish the build with 10 vit, and i've already finished the game once

i'm levelling vit soon i just want to get my damage together

>>163550610
i beat yharnam now, i'm on Rom instead. it's not a big deal though if you dont wanna im sure i'll get her soon
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>>163550623
They are not Shadows from Yharnam the city, they are the Shadows of Yharnam the Queen. They are there to protect Mergo and the Wet Nurse seems like one of them.
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Dang ol' beasts all over the shop man. 'm talkin' about that dang ol' OL' Yharnam, ring-ring-ringing that bell man! Set up that dang ol' password to man, bout to sl-sl-slay us some beasts tell you hwhat. Thank you.
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>>163551013
I'll help wherever just to crush some vermin.
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>>163551248
I love this.
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>>163551248
>all over the shop
>shop
What did he mean by this? Is this some english term for street or a specific area?
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>>163551386
ok, well i'm at byrgenwerth lamp

lets say bbg for password

>>163551487
just a britbong way of saying all over the place
you'd say it if someone shot a football really wide for example, that was all over the shop

source :britbong
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>>163551561
Alright that's kind of how I interpreted it
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>>163551487
all over the shop just means theres alot around/its everywhere basicaly
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do you miss anything by not going to yarhar early? im about to fight rom and i haven't been snatched yet.
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Shieeet, totally my fault there.
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> roaming the streets late one afternoon with the lads
> keeping the city safe from beasts and figidity outsiders
> I've got a pitchfork, Bob's got a knife and Winston has a torch and a wooden shield. All supplied by the Healing Church.
> spot an curseded outsider coming round the corner
> using a cane, even though his legs look fine
> tell him he's not wanted 'ere
> doesn't listen, typical outsider
> his cane transforms into a whip made of razor blades
> kills Bob and Winston
> Plauge ridden rat
> whip changes back into a cane mid-swing and stabs me in the face

This town's finished
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>>163550973
FCs seem pretty chill though. The only toxicity I saw last FC was everyone screeching about every other person using Chikage
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>>163551487
Alternatively, shop could be shorthand for Workshop, in this case. Probably just means all over, though.
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>>163548384
Even on the chikage that's not entirely true.
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Yeah man I tell ya what...Did one of them snipe hunts last night man with them sticks and bags and Whack! Whack! man, go Woooo-loo-loo-loo! ... Talk about big mistake y'all... I could use some dang ol' backup man, ring-a-ring-ring that bell man!
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>>163551978
i made the bad lady go away now
still ringing
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>>163548075
25/25/50 is better.
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Was it just for gameplay convenience that Amelia becomes a beast as soon as you approach her?
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>>163552231
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>>163552313
Well, for absolute gameplay convenience she could've just been a beast from the start.
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>>163552121
> someone copied my greentext from yesterday's /v/ thread

It's an odd feeling.
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not having a lot of luck here are we lul
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>>163552536
I was surprised that I was one shotted by the choir lady and then laughed that it happened twice.
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>>163552312
Well, shit, should I delete this character then?
What makes it better, when 50/25 is going to have higher damage on all your regular hits?
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>>163552313
Illustrates just how fuckin fierce beast scourge is in the clergy, Gascoigne popped into a big creature, sure, but Amelia exploded into a colossal cleric beast.
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Beasts. Shop. Help. Ol' Yharnam.
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>>163552909
GIMME A PASS FAMALAMA
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>>163552679
yeah it was pretty funny. she got me twice too though.

anyway thanks for the help, gonna go mop up some of the easy areas i missed like Hemwick and Nightmare Frontier
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>>163553118
DANG OL' TALKIN' ABOUT THE PASSWORD IN THREE POSTS MAN, PASSWORD IS MAN, MAN.
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>>163552749
It depends how you play.

If you just spam untricked R2 then 50/25/25 would be best, but if you are using the whole moveset and utilising the beams (tricked Charged R2 > R2 followup does insane damage if you hit both swings and beams, even on my 20/12/70 build) and the L2 is arcane focused.

Plus 50 Arc lets you use tools decently and is perfect for revving up the wheel and getting your purge on.
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going through my list of things i meant to check on after my first playthrough that i couldnt explain i remembered theres a trapdoor in the floor like many you see open in various areas within the Byrgenwerth study where you see Willem/Laurence cutscene

does it ever open?
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>>163553287
What about tricked R1s?
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>>163553215
Is that 'man' or 'MAN'?
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>>163553287
>50 Arc lets you use tools decently
lmao
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>>163553510

'man', MAN
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>>163552121
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>>163553215
Fuck, didn't even jump there. Gonna switch to lan to lessen lag.
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>>163553347
Unfortunately not, no.
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Has anyone had really shit luck with connections lately? I've been trying to connect to other chaps in the thread with passwords and I haven't been able to connect with a single one.
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>>163553696

Will be back at the lamp
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Anyone for Memecolash? Ringing at the fog. Pass:

bbg
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>>163553776
Also, to add, I keep getting that fucking 'Lost connection to the network' message
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How the fuck do you handle Ludgwig's AOE attack that homes at you? My entire screen turns teal and I'm instantly dead. I tried running around and he just homes it at you.

I finally mastered his 1st phase and even 2nd phase is easy but I can't for the life of me figure out how to duck that AOE
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>>163554124
Just walk behind him. It's easy as fuck to dodge. Even when you get knocked down you have plenty of time to walk around him.
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>>163554124
It's very simple, hug his legs and then go behind him.
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>>163554124
Get behind him, it's not an AoE so much as a fuckhuge directional attack
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hell yeah, I beat Orphan with no HUD! Using a 400 AR axe with guidance 2, 33 str and 40 +10% vit

I have to always play like this when I'm using my parents' plasma (that they never touch), and the fucking insight and blood echoes icons will burn in if I play with it on. Strangely nothing else on the HUD has been a problem with the image retention
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>>163554196
Not sure how. He just turns around when I move.
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>>163554298
Of course he does, anon. He tracks you till the last second when he brings the sword down.
Just keep moving around him.
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How do I kill this retarded faggot on the gattling gun in Old Yharnam? He zoops around like a fucking anime character and hits me for half my health while I can barely chip at his.
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Is Ludwig's Holy Blade a good weapon? I asked BBG last time and I got laughed out.
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>>163554439
As soon as you reach the top of the ladder fire your gun at him until he falls off
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>>163554439
try and corner him and make him dodge off the cliff

that's the easiest way, at least
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>>163553851
Still need a hand, dude?
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>>163554480
It's called Easy Mode for a reason
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>>163554480
saw cleaver is better
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>>163553778
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>>163554298
you gotta be faster. When he raises his sword up in the air like Luke Skywalker on the cover of star wars, run away. As soon as the energy explosion goes off, sprint towards him and try to get behind him and stay there. He can only track you as he brings the sword down, which is only like 90 degrees. Not while he is charging it up.
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>>163554481

Thank you. What a piece of shit.
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So if 25/50 is better for arc in every way, is there even any reason to go 50/25/25 or is this character just worthless?
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>>163554480
Technically, yes, it some the highest possible damage outputs, but it's very much a crutch weapon, boring look, boring moveset, there's a lot more interesting, niche and just fun weapons out there.
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>>163554832
No problem anon
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>>163553429
At +10 HMS has 180 Physical base damage and 100 arcane damage. 0.8 STR scaling, 0.6 SKL scaling and 1.0 ARC scaling.

> At 50/25/25

({[180] + [180 * 0.85 * 0.80] + [180 * 0.6 * 0.50] }* 1.195 * 1.195 * 1.215 ) + 30 = 618 + 30 physical damage

{([100] + [100 * 1.0 * 0.5]) * 1.195 * 1.195 * 1.215} + 15 = 260 + 15 Arcane damage

a tricked r1 swing would do

(618 * 1.00) + 30 = 648 physical damage
(260 * 0.70) + 15 = 197 arcane damage
________________________________

> At 25/25/50

({[180] + [180 * 0.5 * 0.80] + [180 * 0.5 * 0.6]} * 1.195 * 1.195 * 1.215) + 30 = 530 + 30 physical damage

{([100] + [100 * 1.0 * 0.85]) * 1.195 * 1.195 * 1.215} + 15 = 320 + 15 arcane damage

So a tricked r1 would do

(530 * 1) + 30 = 560 physical damage
(320 * 0.7) + 15 = 239 arcane damage
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>>163550973
Not really, it's all banter. Stop being soft.
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Why does Mother Kosm give birth to an old man?
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>>163555183
Not him, but there's a difference between banter and some people genuinely getting salty during the FCs. If you've seen the bad days before, you'd know.
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>>163555183
I'm sure all that Chikage talk last week was banter.
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>>163555320
You mean when the tripfag used to derail the fight clubs? He's long gone.
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>>163554879
25/50 isn't better, it's just different. You do less damage with your swings but more with your beams.
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>>163554297
>burn in
I thought they fixed those problems with plasma screens
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>>163555458
No tripfag. Some people get upset during the FCs and post in the thread. We've all seen it before.
I love /bbg/, but I'm not going to pretend that the FCs are just full of banter and good sport.
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>>163555281
He's been hiding under her folds for 70 years
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>>163555183
you telling me people just shit on Cranston for the banter?
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>>163555281
>>163555685
Orphan of Kos: The Original NEET
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Anyone need help? I've been invading at mergo's loft for an hour and I'm bored.
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>>163555882

WHOO-boy come on down man dang ol' NIGHTMARE talkin' about dang ol' secrets man and BLOOD man gonna ring a ding ding that dang ol' bell with the man password, man, tellyouhwhat.
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Why is there an Iosefka blood vial in a chest near Yharnam at the top of ML? Is this a "lore clue"?
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>>163555791
>goes outside
>dies

fucking normie hunters
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>>163556153
I'm guessing the password is man?
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>>163556178
it's a ritual material
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>>163556390

man, man
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>>163554687
Got him! Thanks anyway.
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>be in cathedral ward
>amass 250k blood echoes
>go to use lantern
>nothing happens
>i can't use it
>okay i'll just use a hunter's mark
>i also can't use it
>literally cleared the whole area
>fog wall in cathedral (am i missing something here?)
>okay i might as well go fight vicar amelia, i might get lucky
>ng+, this fight is taking forever
>get her to half health
>out of blood vials
>fuck it, i'll just let her kill me so i can respawn
>die, respawn at cathedral lantern
>run towards grand cathedral
>the easiest fucking enemy in the game, church giant has not gone down the stairs yet
>attempt to run past him
>he knocks me down
>get up and run to corner and drink blood vial
>roll to dodge his attack
>get hit through the wall
>lose 250k blood echoes
>if the game let me use the lantern in the first place everything would be fine
I have literally never died to a church giant. The one time I get killed I have 250k blood echoes. Fuck this game, I'm having a break.
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Fug, finished the main game on my second pvp character yesterday, and I'm up to the defiled chalice dungeon. Really hope I'll be able to finish the defiled / lorans / isz / ithyl in one day, last time I did it it took me a few.
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man
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>>163556650
you can get 250k in (literally) a few minutes in the later chalice dungeons. Don't worry about it
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>>163556784
but why the fuck did the game not let me use the lantern?
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>>163553776
>>163554078

You're not the only one. Over the last week I've been booted back to the main menu with "lost connection to the network" at least two-three times each session. My internet is still up though and everything else works. Once it did the "lost connection to the network" message and then when it started exiting to the main menu it went to a loading screen and put me in someone else's world as an adversary instead.
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>>163556772
I have dishonored my family
Forgive me
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>>163557102
Just an idea, but is your PS4 software up to date?
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LITERALLY WALKED RIGHT INTO THAT BALL

JUST FACE FIRST
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>>163557241
Nice one Dow.
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>>163557241
FUCKING CHRIST
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>>163557413

Sorry, not sure why it spawned you so far away form us. We went back to the lamp.
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>>163557578
Back, sorry about that, I swear I'm better than this
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>>163557223
I'll check when I boot it up today. Doesn't it usually prompt you first thing when there's an update though?
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>>163557413
Are you coming back or have you given up?
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>>163557806
I am pretty sure it should, but I did a manual check and turns out there was an update. After updating I rung my resonant bell and was almost instantly summoned. There may be a connection however it is possible that there may be other factors at play e.g. restarting game and PS4. Further testing is required.
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Fuck me, it's been too long since I've played this game. Completely forgot about this part, sorry guys.
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Look out for the bullet trap plates on the ground, man.
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>>163558042
Let's hope you're right, because it has been a little bit frustrating. I just assumed it was from's servers overloaded with the holidays / influx of new players or something.
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>>163558095
Ringing again dude
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I swear to god if anyone ruins my fucking fightclub with saifs and chicagoos on christmas eve I will fucking end this general
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>>163558268
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Where do i find arc radials for my hms?
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>>163558268
I am going to use the Chikage and you're going to have to get better at dealing with it, you salty faggot.
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>>163558392
By reading the OP.
Seriously.
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Can a HMLS build work with only the minimum STR investment to equip? I was under the impression that the tricked form scales only off ARC, and that's the only way I'd be using the weapon. Was thinking about HMLS and some other ARC weapon as a backup (probably Spear with Fire gems or Parasite), and some Tools to supplement.
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>>163558268
chikage faggots will never leave.
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>>163558392
Isz watchers or Ebrietas for triangles, Isz bone ash hunters for radials.
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>>163558268
I'm going to play as three Chikage characters at the same time just to spite poor little Gregor
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*unsheaths Chikage*
"Psshhh this'll be easy"
*gets squashed by Kirkhammer*
You assholes said it was good.
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>notice the explosive barrels everywhere the second I swing
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Why did you hit the barrels
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>>163558585
HMLS's Arcane scaling sucks ass for everything except its lasers. Even when tricked, its Arcane scaling on its melee attacks is pretty ass.
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>>163552143
>toxicity
Go and stay go
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>>163558841
So how do I make it good?
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>>163558859
I was only using the same diction as the guy I responded to.
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I really need the WAIT Gesture...
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>>163558896
If you don't care at all about lasers, Strength + Skill and tempering or adept blunt gems.

If you want good lasers and melee, Strength + Arcane and nourishing gems. You can add some Skill in, too, if you're leveling high.

If you only care about lasers, pure Arcane with arcane gems.
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>weapon breaks
>have to break out undergemmed kosfist
>see the inevitability of the flaming ball
>try to run and accept my death
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>>163559118
That would help

For a blt build, church cannon or regular?
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>>163559234

iirc, church is weaker but consumes less bullets and has a far better range.
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>>163559290
Church has 120 less AR, but a higher multiplier. It only has a single hit, which is the blast. Regular cannon hits twice: cannon ball + blast. Only the cannon ball benefits from BMA.
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DANG OL' BLOODSUCKERS MAN

I'll be back in a bit, thank you both for the help so far. Gotta deposit some college books and I'll be back at it for round two.
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>>163559847
Gotcha. All the deaths where kinda worth it, I got 200,000 echoes from that.
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>>163559847
Glad to help out duderino
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>>163558667
Rude

I'm probably not even going to be around for most of the fight club tomorrow, family stuff and all that.
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>>163555498
nope, that was all bullshit
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>>163560140
Don't worry, I was joking
Have fun with the family. Have to go a family gathering tomorrow for Christmas. It would be nice to get back home in time for the FC, but you know those Hispanics. Party doesn't end till it's 5 AM and the cops have visited three times due to the noise complaint.
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Is the uncanny whirligig better for arc builds?
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I'm having a lot of trouble with Ludwig. I have the first phase down, but still die a lot because I'm not ready for a certain attack, or I'm forced up against a wall or whatever. I'm getting better at the second phase, but I don't know how to dodge his big "fuck you" attack. I guess it's the AOE another guy was talking about earlier. I try to get to the back of him, but there's something that hits me and staggers me before he does the full attack, and then I'm staggerlocked until death.

So, how do I dodge that attack, and what's hitting me at the beginning of it?
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>>163560709
Lost is the best for fire/bolt and radial/radial/triangle is the best for arcane.
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Where is the fight club tommorow?
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>>163560941
Isz
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>>163560893
Ludwig always raises his sword into the air and uses a burst of energy that knocks you down before he brings the sword down in the massive wave.
You can time it, and dodge through the initial blast, but even if you do get hit, just roll towards him, stay as close as possible to his legs, and circle to his back. He tracks you only until he brings the sword down, so all you have to do is get behind him and his attack will miss completely.
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>>163560941
Loran
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>>163560920
Hmmm, mine is a fire saw atm. Is lost better because it's easier to get a waning as opposed to two radials?
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>>163560941
hinter
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>>163561024
Isz was last week. Why not do pthumeru?
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>>163560941
it's always called right before it starts and shall continue like that thanks
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>>163560941
Cathedral Ward
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>>163513853
t. Scott "i ruined the pvp community" Jund
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>>163561349
>/dsg/ is still mad at me
lmao
Even funnier than the Reddit butthurt
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Any tips for the Living Failures?
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>>163561112
>Is lost better because it's easier to get a waning as opposed to two radials?

Sort of.

It's because of which effects drop in which areas.

Radial cold abyssals cannot drop +fire, +bolt, or +arc secondaries. Waning cold abyssals can drop +bolt and +fire, but not +arc. Triangles can drop bolt, fire, and arc secondaries.

The best bolt gem in the game is a 22.5%/33.8 flat, which drops from Abhorrent Beast, which only spawns in Loran.

So for a bolt weapon, you typically want a radial Cold Abyssal, a triangle Cold Abyssal with 15 flat bolt secondary, and a 22.5/33.8 Abhorrent Abyssal.

With two radials and a waning, you lose out on the +15 flat bolt damage from the triangle cold abyssal. With two radials and a triangle, you'd get two radial cold gems and a 27.2% bolt from watchers. So you'd lose out on even more damage that way.

Similar stuff happens with fire gems.

You could technically find any gem in an offshape, but that's a pain in the ass.
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>>163561691
Run in circles and try to single them out
Use the tree in the middle as cover
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>>163561076
Ok, that worked. I still got hit by most of the attack, but I see what you mean. Thanks.

Also, anyone wanna help me out? I'm only BL36 with a +7 weapon because I wanna get the parasite asap. I'm not doing much damage.
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>>163561691
Hide at an angle behind the flower in the center during the second phase when they start summoning meteors. You can also get a visceral attack on one if it's close enough to you and safe enough for you to wander away from the shelter of the flower.
Other than that, exploit their weaknesses. They're kin, so thrust, fire, and bolt will do you well. If you have high skill, parry and visceral them.
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>>163561886
Sure, what's the pass? And where are you ringing?
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>>163559143
Guess I was too old school in my approach. I leveled ARC to 50 and STR to 16 so I could equip, then put in an ARC gem I got from Mensis in and just run around untricked 100% of the time. Effective enough so far, and I never really into PVP much. Thanks for the advice. Eventually I guess I'm going to have clear the chalices again for good gems, which I should have thought about before making an ARC character. Ha.
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>>163561432
What did you even do? desu last time I saw anything from you, it was just the video about how absorption and defense worked in DkS3.
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>>163562065
bbg, near the boss fog.
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>>163562239
Ringing
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>>163562239
Huh, been ringing for a couple of minutes now
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>>163562496
Same. How close do we have to be? I'm standing at the entrance to the hallway before going through the fog.
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>>163562586
We're in the same general area, so that shouldn't be an issue.
Also, just got a "Lost Connection to Network", so let me try again. Might be on me, this bad connection.
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Can I put a restoration gem in my gun to counteract some of the health drain from the wheel or do I have to hold it to get the effect?
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So are these distant pillars I'm seeing in the Hunters Dream what I think they are?
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>>163562586
Still ringing, but I'm not getting anything. Nothing seems to be wrong with the PS4 either, seeing as it's fully updated.
Just to be clear, password is: bbg
Right? And you're not ringing your Small Resonant Bell, are you?
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>>163562923
Yeah, "bbg" in lowercase. I'm ringing the beckoning bell.
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>>163562707
Yes

>>163562767
No
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>>163563086
Closed the game entirely and reopened, but sorry, m8. Looks like I won't be connecting to anybody today. Hopefully somebody else will give you a hand, anon.
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Does the Amygdala cheese only work in its third phase?
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>it took me almost 8 minutes just to kill living failures

It was kinda fun though
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I'm going to use a Chikage at the next fight club and there's nothing you guys can do to stop me from being bad and probably losing a lot
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>>163563282
Eh, it's fine. Thanks for trying. I'd probably waste your time dying over and over.
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>>163563336
Not sure what you mean. Amy cheese is first 2 phases bait attacks at long distance, 3rd phase sit underneath it.

Sitting underneath it in the first 2 phases is a bad idea, if that's what you're asking.
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what a lovely meme region locked DLC is
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>>163563337
Great theme, though
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>>163563337

>dying to them after five minutes of hit-and-running because you get impatient
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>>163563741
>tfw trying to tackle them at BL20 to rush for the Kos Parasite
>literal 15 minute long fight
Never again.
Never.
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Are the Choir, the School of Mensis, the Workshop, and Byrgenwyrth the only active factions in the game? Am I missing any?
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>>163563835
How'd that work out in the end? I'm the guy stuck on Ludwig, and I know I'll have just as much trouble on the rest of the bosses. How upgraded was your weapon?
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>>163563436
Ah, I'm a retard. Thanks

So in the first two phases I should just stand at a distance and wait for it to do the heavy attacks that put its head down?

Also
>ATK UP +21.5%
>Add arcane ATK +15
>HP gradually depletes -9
Fuck my life
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>>163564013
Powderkeks, HoH, Executioners, Vilebloods.
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>>163564314
I'm farming Amygdala atm, too. I keep getting perfect Tonitrus abyssals, but I just want something for my wheel.
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>>163564196
It was a long time ago, but I think I had a +7 or +8 Tonitrus, because I was hoping the buff would help me out. But the Living Failures had so much health, and I eventually used up all of my blood vials during the fight.
I ended up resorting to parrying them to death, and found that it worked out a lot better than the Tonitrus. But, if you can summon for the fight, please just do that. There's an anon here with a poison wheel who would jizz his pants to help you out, I'm sure.

Maria wasn't so bad. I just used Augur to cheese her. Orphan was the worst of all, though. If you don't want to summon for him, try backstabs and parries. It's painful either way.
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Goals for the bloodletter build?
If it's in the OP I messed up and only saw a chikage variant.

Do I just follow that except get no skill and only put vit/bloodtinge/min str for bloodletter?

I plan to use it in the tricked form almost exclusively.

My idea was to rush chikage using cleaver then use it to get bloodletter.
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>>163564391
Powder kegs and Vilebloods are dead
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>>163564606
If one active member left = dead, then Burgertown is also dead.
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>>163564568
50 vit, 50 bloodtinge, minimum stats to wield bloodletter, dump excess points in end.

Might as well get 15 skill desu so you can use Chikage and Bowblade.
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MAKE A NEW THREAD!
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>>163564685
powder kegs have 2 actually, Djura and his buttbuddy below the tower
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>>163564806
Why don't you do it, instead of demanding that somebody else make it?
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>>163564685
It can't be a faction if there's only one person left, a faction is by definition composed by multiple people.
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>>163564913
My connection won't let me, I can barely fill the captcha.
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Behold! A Paleblood Thread!

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