/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General

>>163318147
>>163318556
More like they get a below average player to playtest it on Deity and balance it around that.

or maybe they're doing the classic trick where they make a DLC faction/civ/character/whatever super OP at first to get more people to buy it at full price.

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Mongol Pony Calvary when?

>>163321897
We're in wildcard territory now, I think. All we have left from the board before launch to show up is Isabella.

Hello!

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>>163322934
Mongol needs all the love they can get.

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WAIFUS ARE BACK

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>>163324089
>having a fridge as a waifu

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>human fallen empire

Haven't seen this before

>>163324420
WE

>>163324579
Wuz

>>163324420
do they own ring world? or still using sol system as homeworld.

>>163324420
Neither, just the standard system for a xenophile fallen empire, which is pretty lame. Haven't found Sol yet.

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>>163325603
forgot pic

>>163324894

FE n' shit

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>>163324089
CHILD

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>>163324089
>those hips

>>163321426
Is Poland the new 'best' civ in VI, the way it was in V?

Poland can only steal tiles within 3 tiles of their cities, and they can't steal finished completed wonders or districts. They can steal/destroy in-progress wonders and districts. It's not as blatantly OP as it may seem.

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>>163324089
>Those hips
>But that nose
It's brown bagging time

>>163329213
Shut the fuck up you stupid frog.

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>>163329856
Did i hit a nerve, you kurwa?

>>163329958
>racist nazi frog
>british
dumb frogposter

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>>163330042
>racist
ebin made up word

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>>163330135
all words are made up
checkmate amphibians

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>>163330349

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>>163330445

>>163324089
Jadwiga a cute.
A CUTE!

In Stellaris how would i make a Space Rome and Space Soviet Union?


For Space USSR ive come down to Militarist/Materialist/Collectivist Military Dictatorship with General Secretary as leader title

For Space Rome i've no idea how to make it other than militarist star empire

How advanced are advanced AI empires in stellaris?

>>163325603
>>163325738
The Fallen Empires expanded mod adds two ham FEs
One Xenophobe type and one Xenophiles type
Each has their own unique version of the sol system
It's set up so they both don't spawn and won't spawn in the same game with the UN and/or Commonwealth preset AI Empires too.

>>163333184
>Adds two human FEs
Fucking phone.

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>>163331804
how cute?

>>163308338
I dunno, Cities Skylines and Planet Coaster are still around.

>>163332130
>Space Rome.

Collectivist, Spiritualist, Militarist; Divine Mandate.

Rename your ruler Emperor/Empress.

You might ditch Militarist for another rank in Spiritualist for the decreased Ethic Diversion, but it's probably not needed once you've upgraded to Transcendent Empire and built a Ministry of Benevolence. Militarist prevents wartime unhappiness, gives you a more powerful planetary bombardment, and adds weight to drawing weapons technology.

>>163332821
They start with a few planets, it all.

You'll quickly surpass them so long as you aren't boxed in.

>>163334674
was the Cult of the Emperor so strong as to make Rome spiritualist

your selection seems more in line with like a Space version of Imperial China de gozaimasu

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fucking little shits just colonised right next to my border

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what

>>163336134
You know what to do
If you dont: EXTERMINATE

>>163334674

Well, you guys tell me.

F. Spiritualist, or Spiritualist and Militarist.

Which is better?

>>163336092
>gozaimasu

Is that a name, or a Japanese phrase?

>>163336134
also why the fuck can I not ask for a system from them in trade? I can transfer my own systems. Fucking diplomacy is still a joke

>Disjunction True
>Spell that dispels overland enchantments
>Suppress Magic
>Overworld enchanment that attempts to dispel every spell cast by enemy wizards

I can't believe that Sectors still can't handle slavery properly.

Is it too difficult to program the thing to avoid enslaving a pop when it's mathematically inefficient? Why would you enslave a scientist, or a generator engineer?

Why would you not enslave a miner, or a farmer?

I'm playing a despotic empire and I've had to outlaw slavery because the sectors are so fucking bad at it.

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>>163336309

>>163336241
i was about to type tb h, which of course autos into 'desu', so i just typed 'de gozaimasu' instead which is like a more formal version of desu

>>163336432
Oh, hah, okay.

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>>163336183
Comical.

>>163336309
Fugg that sounds like some crazy Weapons of Magical Destruction right there.

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>>163336469
ah
Chinese memes got it

>>163336759
I'm not fond of these neo-RTS where you're forced into constant skirmishes.

>>163337118

RTS have literally always been about constant skirmishes

You build a base, build up your eco, send raids, fortify your eco, and then send armies to try and destroy the enemy base

You also send builders out to expand to new territories to get unique resources, more resources in general, or new bases to attack from

This gameplay motif fits the description of every RTS known to man, from Company of Heroes to Empire Earth, including Age of Empires, Starcraft, 40k, Supreme Commander and many more that I don't know or can't remember. Exceptions are very few if any

If anything, the RTS genra has probably stalled because no-one has dared to try something novel. Probably a mix of GSG and RTS will be the way forward, but making it is another story

The opposite side, distilling RTS to their base, has failed spectacularly with games like EE3 and AOE3, and probably contributed to taking the whole genra down for nearly a decade

>>163337529
In recent RTS, you're forced into skirmishes. Just compare Company of Heroes or Etherium to Ages of Empires 2.

>>163336134

Every earlygame wants me to play Stellaris so bad, despite knowing how every fucking game turns out, hours of clicking +1 on buildings and waiting truces to expire when I'm strong enough to take on the entire galaxy already alone.

Is the AI fixed in the Civ 6 winter update?

>>163338765
depends

>>163331804
>>163333648
Cutest king ever.

>>163332130
Space Rome would be Fanatical Militarist & Xenophile if you want to emphasise it's integration of the nations/barbarians it conquered.
You can also go Fanatical Militarist & Collectivist if you want to emphasise it's use of slavery.

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>5 euro scenario pack
Is this one of the four post-launch DLCs you get for buying Deluxe? If so, absolute lol.

>>163325738
>Sky Father
I'm confused, is that supposed to be Jupiter? Where's Earth?

So I heard /cbg/ attempted to live again last thread but it died?

>>163334674
That's bascially Spess Tang China

>>163339597
FEs always have the same home systems depending on which type they are.
That's not the Sol system. It's the Xenophile FE home system or at least their Capital system depending on how you want to interpret the FEs.

>>163339847
>FEs always have the same home systems
Gay af what happened to Earth, did the Sun get hit by a random GRB billions of years early?

>>163339469
Actually militarist/xenophile/collectivist sound does great for Spess Rome for the reasons you stated

but its real hard for me to choose between xenophile and collectivist in place of Fanatic militarist

hmm

>>163339883
Get Fallen Empires Expanded if you want Sol based Human FEs.
Either way, how Sol spawns in the base game generally happens as one of the following:
You start your Empire there

UN of Earth spawns in game with Sol as the home system

It's a pre-FTL world with Humans

It's a tomb world

It's a tomb world with irradiated Humans

It's a tomb world with roaches

'Queen' that literally just got married to solidify alliance with Hungary and then her husband ruled everything until she died at 27

D I V E R S I T Y

>>163321901
How do you find so many items?

>>163340991
He built them.

>>163341072
How do you do that?
I'm really new to this old game

>>163341118
There's a spell that can creates items.

A Distant Worlds tip : if you're having problem with money, switch to Corporate Nationalism.
It'll probably cripple your economy on the term and switching out of it can be a pain, but you'll drown in dosh.

So is she a loli?

>>163340980
Waifus tho

>>163324089
THICC

>>163342337
>playing Civ for the waifus
Casuals...

>>163342465
I don't play civ

>>163342015
Ugh, no.
Corporate Nationalism is broken, as in it does not work as intended.

What it does is take the civilian bank and give it to the state (aka, you the player), so you will get a fair bit of money. For exactly ONE economy tick.
However.... Since all civilian money is now your money and cannot be used by civilians, your economy will grind to a halt because traders can no longer afford buy resources, or refit ships, or buy fuel.
And all your colonies will be pegged at 100% tax (which you cannot change) which is not nescessarily a problem with a corporate gov., but if you ever change out of it (and you will) it causes all kind of interesting things to happen because happiness will go through the floor.
The longer you stay in a corporate gov. the worse your economy gets, and the worse the effects of changing out of it become.

It is a giant headache that is entirely the opposite of fun or useful.
Avoid.

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If they needed to build the Death Star, why couldn't they use droids instead?

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>>163340980
But she was a king.

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Does anyone know if there's any Broken Lords concept art around? Google doesn't show much more than the big wallpaper pictures.

>>163342465
...civ not "casual"
civ is literally babbys first 4x.
I mean shit complain about sjw if you want, but don´t pretend civ is some deep shit.

>>163343592
>she
>king

>>163344209
Jadwiga was crowned the King of Poland. It's a historical fact.

>>163342465
literally one of the only remaining reasons to play this boring as shit piss easy game.
Even the streamers are dropping this pos

>>163344209
It's a King (girl), famalam.

>>163343590
The death star was more than just a tool of terror and the ultimate weapon to destroy the rebel alliance. It was a major economic project that provided jobs to billions of construction workers, pilots, logistics specialists, etc. Imagine it as the Hoover Dam or Empire State Building times a billion.

>>163344537
Streamers never play a game for more than two months. Just check TotalBiscuit's records on Youtube, that faggot only plays games for 1 hour before making a review about it, and then he drops them.

>>163344819
But in that scene, they refer to the building itself (since they reused the plans of the original Death Star, and only tweaked them a bit to problem the vent), so if it's just a matter of construction, why not use droids?

>>163344940
Because the Empire isn't one big space communist state, it functions as an extremely capitalist system, and the death star represented a shitton of additional employment.

>>163345154
Given it's a secret military project, I doubt that calling contractors is a good idea to build a weapon. Or even anything military at all.

>>163345241
not him but for an autocracy you could just tell them that in order to take the contract they have to live on-site for as long as it takes to build to avoid leaks

the Imperial Japanese did some whacky shit to hide their giant-ass battleships they were building and they hid it so well the US had no idea of its specifics even when it was commissioned

>>163345494
Yeah, but the Imperial Japanese weren't fighting rebels specialized in gorilla warfare and intelligence. I imagine it's easier to corrupt an imperial than a Japanese.

>>163344940
I meant people like FilthyRobot or BabaYetu, they live off playing civ and now FilthyRobot prefers to play Darkest Dungeon and BabaYetu got back to Civ V.

>>163345715
Because they have shit tastes.

>>163344940
>Streamers never play a game for more than two months. Just check TotalBiscuit's records on Youtube, that faggot only plays games for 1 hour before making a review about it, and then he drops them.
He already made a video for faggots like you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXe7Sn2LP-8. But I guess you have very short attention span for a 40 minutes video, seeing as civ6 is your babby first 4x.
>>163345893
>taste
>in context of civ6

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>>163344940
>streamers never play a game for more than 2 months

Wait a damn minute

I need to colonize a world with pre-sentients to uplift them
I cant colonize the worlds if the pre-sentients are outside my climate sphere

So i cant fucking uplift pre-sentients in order to cover planets that i cant cover natively? am i supposed to terraform all the damn worlds instead??

>>163346872
what is this, /hsg/?

So Aurora 2 is basically C# Aurora or is it entirely different project?

>>163346872
non-autistic streamers

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>the vote for the declaration of war failed
>the vote for the declaration of war failed
>the vote for the declaration of war failed
>the vote for the declaration of war failed
federation was a mistake

>>163346872
>>163344940
It's more that streamers who play nothing but civ will not gain 20000 viewers, let alone maintain it over months, so you never hear about the ones who do stick with the game. The only ones who can maintain the interest of their audience are either variety streamers who jump from game to game, or people who play highly popular competitive games like HS or LoL. It's not a lack of streamers, it's a lack of viewers.

The closest exception you can find is the more popular parts of the speedrunner community, where some people can maintain up to 1000 viewers doing nothing but dark souls runs all day.

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>>163340991
I have the Artificier skill which lets me start with the Create Artifact spell. Artificier also reduces the cost of Create Artifact.
And I have the Runemaster skill which reduces the cost of Arcane(neutral) spells, which Create Artifact is.

that way I can craft items for less than I can sell them for.

What enchanments you can depend on what spell books you have.
Made sure to start with 5 Sorcery so I could add Magic Immunity.
Flight and Guardian Wind(protects vs slingers and bows) were key as well.

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>>163348514
>LoL
>competitive

>>163350296
"Need" is your wizard's basic path, right?

>>163344537
>Even the streamers are dropping this pos
That's because they're stuck in the civ5 Tall vs Wide mindset, and think a game lacks variety if you can't OCC for a win vs a large player run empire.
And civ6 is new, poorly balanced, and balance mods aren't honed for it yet.

>>163350378
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

>>163350378
>"Need" is your wizard's basic path, right?
not sure I undertand

>mfw I got Stellaris, against my best judgement
>expected Star Wars-level of trade routes fuckery, taxes, and all kind of major dickery
>every empire is communist, with every population working for me
Holy shit HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THIS BAD, even Europa Universalis was better.

>>163350608
That never get old.

>>163350657
Sorry, I'm using Dominions slang here.
When you pick a wizard in Master of Magic, you have various icons, with the dark mage (Sss'rathi or something) only having skulls. This is the "path" that I'm referring to, and it comes from Dominions 4 where the magic level was called path to represent the fact that a wizard can either be specialized or versatile.

>>163350669
>isn't shown the underlying civilian economy, since the game developer doesn't want you to have to fuck around with tax rates
>assumes that this means everybody is communist
How did your parents fuck up so badly?

>>163350895
Hi Wiz.

>>163350669
>when after one election cycle you finally leave /pol/ but you have permanent brain damage

>>163351265
t. Wiz

>>163351396
Who is wiz?

>>163352349
A piece of shit who don't allow people to
>X respectfully disagree
with him.

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>>163333648
>>163324089
>Jadwiga
>not Jan III Sobieski, Tadeusz Kościuszko, Jagiełło or Lech Wałęsa

I mean, i like bitches but there are waaay more important figures in Polish history

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>>163352527
>Polish history
Except getting fucked in the ass in every war, I don't recall the Polish doing anything at all.

>>163352521
It seems your boogeyman is not here because I'm only one of the quoted. You are just stupid
>>163352639
t. american

>>163352917
>admitting he's american
Well, we're done here, you just proved you cannot be taken seriously.

>>163353059
>t. another american who does not know the t. meem
Are you retarded or just bad at baiting? Have your (you)

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>>163352639
>>163352639
>Except getting fucked in the ass in every war,
Tell that to Teutonic Order, 17th century Russia, Ottoman Empire and many more countries defeated by Poland

>>163352639
>I don't recall the Polish doing anything at all.

>first European Consitution, second in the world only to American one
>only country to ever conquer and hold Moscow
>major world power for 3 centuries ( 15 to 17 )
>two times saviour of Europe ( 1683 Vienna and 1920 Wisła )
>shitload of scientists despite country not exsisting at the time ( like Maria Skłodowska Curie - only female double Nobel Prize winner, Stanisław Ulam one of the Manhattan Project physicists and one of the scientists behind the theory of Nuclear Pulse Engine )
>highest number of Righteous Among Nations recipients despite the fact that hiding Jews in Poland was punished waaaay more severe than doing this in France or Netherlands
>only country defeated by Third Reich that never capitulated

And many many more things.

TL;DR - cool story bro. Absolute shit but cool

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>>163353525
>so angry he had to quote me three times
First, calm down.
Second, if you faggots defeated the Teutonic Order, we're not going to be friends.

>>163353783
>so angry he had to quote me three times
You can tell the reddit transplants

>>163353783
>we're not going to be friends.

What makes you think i want to be friends with faggot like you ?

>>163353926
Okay, ESL.

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I can´t get behind the combat in Endless Legend.
Is it just not fun =? Or am I missing something.

>>163353182
>goes to 4chan
>goes to the video game part of 4chan
>goes to the strategy game part of the video game part of 4chan
>acts surprised when the people there are retards
You can't really claim that this is unexpected, though.

>>163354152
You can always do the AUTO battle if you want

>>163353783
Go ahead and explain why you think the Teutonic Order were "good guys" or otherwise should not have been eliminated, so I can make fun of you some more.

>>163354152
It's so bad it makes Endless Space's combat good in comparaison.

>>163350752
Ah
As opposed to Life, Death, Chaos, Nature or Sorcery as a specialization, I'd say my wizards basic path is Crafting.

Retorts are nice, especially those two together, but just going for pure 11 spellbooks can be very good in MoM. If you have 10 spellsbooks in a school, you can research all 40 spells in that spell school. If you start with 11 you also start with a rare spell in that school. 11-13 books also give you a discount on spells in that school.
11 Chaos with Chaos Spawn as your rare spell, or 11 Death with Wraiths as your rare spell, or Incarnation/Stream of Life can all be pretty powerful if you like specializing in a single school.
The rare spell pick can give you a lot of tempo, while skills/retorts(like Artificier) are generally worth more in the long run. Especially if they're part of a combo.

Ssrathi is warlords 3 battlecry snakemen

>>163354290
Expect some bullshit about muh christianity, heathens and overall gay boner for military orders.

>>163344940
>if it's just a matter of construction, why not use droids?

Because droids are fucking faggots.

>>163354605
>Retorts are nice, especially those two together, but just going for pure 11 spellbooks can be very good in MoM. If you have 10 spellsbooks in a school, you can research all 40 spells in that spell school. If you start with 11 you also start with a rare spell in that school. 11-13 books also give you a discount on spells in that school.
>11 Chaos with Chaos Spawn as your rare spell, or 11 Death with Wraiths as your rare spell, or Incarnation/Stream of Life can all be pretty powerful if you like specializing in a single school.
Quoi?? Yeah, I should really read the manual. I thought the game would be easy enough to jump in, but I was very wrong.

>>163355754
I agree C-3P0 is a bit flamboyant, but R2-D2 is totally straight.

>>163356549
What's the cause of those huge oscillations?

>>163356549
These oscillations triggers me.
_
_| |_

>>163356365
The wiki is pretty good.

http://masterofmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_Rarity

http://masterofmagic.wikia.com/wiki/Spellbook

At 8 spellbooks and above you get a casting skill reduction and research boost for spells in that school.

>>163356627
Banished wizards.

The yellow dip after 1410 was Kali or Sharee banishing Merlin iirc.

If a wizards capitol gets conquered, the wizard gets banished.
They start casting "Spell of Return" if they have enough mana and their fortress reappears in another city though.

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>>163336241
Bumping this question, please.

>>163339576
That's what I'm worried about...

But yes, it looks like. I've got both the new DLCs installed already.

>>163357215
It's a Japanese expression that denotes politeness and humbleness, through it's a bit outdated.

>>163329031

Holy shit thank god. I was ready to completely write this DLC off

>>163357612
I mean the question about Collectivist & F. Spiritualist vs Collectivist, Spiritualist & Militarist.

Anyone know Poland's agenda?

is this the first time we got a loli for civ? or does hatshepsut count too?

>>163356549
wizard clock

>>163357820
Hates females leaders.
Likes males leaders.

>>163352527
>>163353525
Back to wykop with you faggot.

Manchild retard expecting historical accuracy from a cartoonish hex-based strategic game where units armed with sticks led by chieftain Winimakatinkahaha go against tanks led by jolly looking Roosevelt.

Reconsider your life

>>163357820
Wants to go to space.

Hates Soviets and Nazis.

>>163357965
If it's a firaxis AI it'll be more like
>hates female leaders
>likes female leaders

>>163358040
>retard expecting historical accuracy

Its not about historical accuracy, its about having waay more prominent figures in Polish history than Jadwiga, ty jebana kurwo.

>>163358194
Jadwiga was a prominent historical figure though.

>ty jebana kurwo.
no nie zesraj sie wykopku XD

>>163358338
>Jadwiga was a prominent historical figure though.
Not as prominent as Sobieski, Kosciuszko or Walesa.

>no nie zesraj sie wykopku XD
Bujaj sie cweluchu.

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>>163358338
>>163358498
GTFO from my comfy general polish scums.

>>163358498
>Sobieski,
Irrelevant faggot
>muh /pol/ told me beating turks was based

>Kosciuszko
An American war hero. Great

>or Walesa.
A commie agent lmoa

XDDD

>>163358573
no nie zesraj sie

>suddenly poles

spierdalaj, kurwas

>>163357702
For what?
Space Rome?
See:
>>163339469

>>163358573
>Belarus
>for sale

>implying anyone would want to buy this shithole

>>163358621
>Irrelevant faggot

>one of the greatest King of the country in question
>irrelevant

Cool story bro.

>An American war hero. Great
And Polish to boot.

>A commie agent lmoa
No he wasn't and anyone with iq over 25 knows this.

>>163358785
>No he wasn't and anyone with iq over 25 knows this.
Only a true wykop user would say this.
No wonder Walesa has an account there

>>163358727
No, just in general, which is the better choice?

>>163358881
Depends entirely on how you want to play.

Whyyy won't Sectors handle slavery?

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There's no slavery in Civ VI is there? They include every fucking colonialism evil thing from murdering natives to imposing a raj on city states but there's no simple ability to own human beings. Shame.

>>163359394
So far, I'm taking advantage of F. Spiritualist to force conquered Pops to conform to my empires ideology, and it's doing a great job of it.

I'm just wondering if I can afford to loose the Fanatic bonus in exchange for Militarist, which would give me the Virtual Combat Arena building and a more powerful bombardment.

Though, honestly, the bombardment doesn't seem that useful; I carve through planetary defenses in no time anyway.

>>163359904
pls

>>163359919
Gotta cater to SJWs. Paradox did the same by making slaves worthless in Europa Universalis.

Going from Stellaris to EU4, holy shit what was Paradox thinking when it made war and diplomacy for Stellaris? All they'd have to do to improve the game is take some cues from their other games. War especially in Stellaris is such a chore. If they refuse to make war more interesting then they should at least make it quicker.

>>163359919
>when you leave /v/ and /pol/ but you are permanently disabled

>>163360181
Slaves are just irrelevant in EU. There's not really any mechanic that would benefit from more involved slavery, so having them as just a good is fine.

I doubt that Paradox is afraid of the "SJWs", slavery is more involved in Stellaris and also purging exists, not to mention half the shit you can do in Crusader Kings.

>>163359920
Yeah, if you can destroy a spaceport, you can destroy the garrison HP with limited bombardment by the time your army transports actually get into position.

>>163360329
You misunderstand.
Slaves are a good in Europa Universalis, but they're always low-priced good.
In fact, they were worth a lot of money, but Paradox was afraid of upsetting people that don't play games.

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>>163357820
Went and looked it up in game for you.

She loves Faith.

>>163360249

Please understand, it's not a simple WE GOTTA OPPRESS THEM DARKIES mentality. The fact is slavery was a major part of human civilization. Not including Slavery in Civ would be like not including Irrigation. Before we had the luxury of modern mercantilism and paying workers, the only way to have a dedicated workforce was slavery.

>>163360591

Thank you friend.

>>163360181
Those SJWs are so thin-skinned it's silly.

>throws a shitfit about the inclusion of every female leader

>>163360329
>There's not really any mechanic that would benefit from more involved slavery,
There was in eu3 when you had actual trade value mechanics.

>>163360614
Capturing enemy workers was always regarded as slavery in Civ games, and it is unchanged in Civ 6.

All that's missing is the ability to sacrifice population for production (which never made sense anyway, unless they're building those pyramids out of human bones), and a slavery economics card (although I recommend you do some research about how many rights serfs really had historically).

>>163360627
>>163360792
Calm down here.

>>163360949
>which never made sense anyway
I pick "What is forced labor?" for 20$.

>>163360792
retarded comparison

>>163360949

>which never made sense anyway

"Please sir! The workers need to take a moment to eat and drink! You're working them through the night"
"FASTER FILTH, THE EMPEROR WILL HAVE HIS PALACE MY THE NEXT MOON OR YOUR CHILDREN WILL DROWN IN THE DEPTHS OF THE GREAT SEA"

>>163361123
retarded post

>>163360821
It sounds like the 'problem' would be solved in EU4 if slaves were just more valuable. That's just a tweak of one value.

Frankly, it's hard to see how Paradox has fallen under sway of a nebulous SJW (((menace))) when every one of their games either stars Hitler, has explicit slavery, or encourages the player to be a Machiavellian psychopath who tortures children. The alt-right has become at least as oversensitive as the strawmen they oppose.

>>163361449

Cause its falseflagging shitposting on both sides.

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>>163360614
>Not including Slavery in Civ would be like not including Irrigation
we seem to have done all right the past 25 years

>>163362347
Yeah, but it's useless.

>>163362347
Is there a mod that makes ground combat less shit?

Is XCOM a 4x?
are the DLC worth it?

>>163364420
No its not but its a great game.

What DLC ?

>>163364594
All of them

>>163364420
No. And it has its own general, so let's avoid it.
If it's Enemy Within, yeah. Anything else is shit.

>>163364729
Thanks

>>163364659
>cool preset characters
>more customization options for soldiers
>few missions including Site Recon

I would say - worth it especially if you can get them cheap.

>>163364729
>Enemy Within
EW isn't DLC, its an expansion.

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>>163364871
>EW isn't DLC

>play Civ 6
>have apostle with 2 spread charges
>launch inquisition/evangelize belief both say "must still have 2 spread charges"
>on my Holy district
>cannot use either one

Fuck you.

>>163364871
The line between these two is very thin.

>>163365260
Blame the Polish, they murdered the best templars around.

So this shit is half of the DLC I get with deluxe edition?

>>163352527
>Lech Wałęsa
xD

>>163365331
Don't worry, good goy, (((they))) will release an additional map pack to justify your pre-purchase.

>>163365338
>first democraticaly elected president of Poland
>co-founder of Solidarity
>given Nobel Peace Prize
>leader of the workers movement that greatly contributed to the downfall of communism
>TIME magazine award for Man of the Year 1981 and got the spot on their 1999 "100 most important people of the century" list


I see only greatness you salty fuck.

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>>163330042
>Polish piece of shit

Into the trash it goes :^)

HOW BALANCED IS POLAND?!

>>163361449
Paradox is a fine company that keeps Swedish politics/sensibilities out of their games.

The 'paradox is a SJW company' statement stems from the appearance of their some of their front facing team leads and the fact they are Swedish.

I'm always on the lookout for cuck shit being injected into games I play, but Paradox has done an outstanding job of just making gaems.

>>163366194
Didn't they get thick with some guy making a White human phenotype only mod for Stellaris?

>>163366194
>I'm always on the lookout for cuck shit being injected into games I play, but Paradox has done an outstanding job of just making gaems.
Cue Paradox banning whites-only Stellaris mod without stating a reason why, while leaving all other similar mods unchecked.

>>163366505
Y-yeah, but it was racist.

>>163365816
xD

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>>163357820
>>163357820
being thicc hnggg

>>163368042
thicc nose
reminds me of shreks

>>163366350
Maybe, but you people also believe that pizzerias have sex slaves in their basements, so you might want a source for that other than your own fantasies.

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>>163368451
Did you quote the right person?

>>163366350
>>163366505
they banned that because the author was putting videos of white supremacist shit in the description, advertising their dumb youtube channel

Anyone have some starting tips for Endless Space 2? Just got it but other then being incomplete, also lacking any sort of beginner's tips.

No stranger to Civ games.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-24-paradox-pulls-discriminatory-stellaris-mod-that-made-all-humans-white

Pretty funny, actually, how 4chan trash get so triggered over seeing a mere picture of someone of a different race that they have to mod nonwhites out of their games.

>>163369214
Make a mod that makes all humans black with names like Tay'Quandra and "LaQuinton and it would be praised. No minorities are playing Stellaris.

>>163369214
>Pretty funny, actually, how 4chan trash get so triggered over seeing a mere picture of someone of a different race that they have to mod nonwhites out of their games.

I would actually support making the one human race at the time an option.
Same with female/male only portraits.
It would help making varied empires easier.

>>163369356
>Make a mod that makes all humans black with names like Tay'Quandra and "LaQuinton and it would be praised. No minorities are playing Stellaris.
[citation needed]

>>163368451
What the fuck are you talking about? Is this the right board?

>>163369214
But I like making an empire called "Ku Klux Clan".

>>163369356
The reason some would be more acceptable that others would be because of history - white dudes, have a pretty bad rep with how they've treated everyone else over the last couple of hundred years. Mods that let you be one of those badly treated groups could be seen as empowering them and giving them a status denied by the white dude hegemony of the West. But given how complex and messy all that would be to try and explain I suspect the developers would be much wiser to just ban "all X anything" mods for the time being.

>>163368641
Their reasoning was just a mere "but das racis'!" before people caught up on the swede shenanigans. When people started to show Paracuck bullshit with other phenotype mods, the swedes switched to "but dat nazi white supremacist frog!". Swedes eventually had to put it back because it wasn't breaking any ToS and the only reason for removal was their resident anti-whitie being triggered over it.
>>163369214
Yeah, those retarded /pol/ posters!
*installs Matriarchy mod*

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>>163324327
I wonder how Cathy will look in Civ 6

How is stellaris's player base/sales doing? I heard it's sales were good but the number of people still playing has dropped quite quick. I'm equally suprised HOI4 did as good as it did given how low the preorders for it were

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>>163365816
>informant for communist secret service who ratted his coworkers
>used to subvert and control opposition movement
>promoted by state media as great opposition leader
>literally moved around country by security service to disarm and dissolve strike
>used as smoke cover for all of dirty former party and secret service machinations
>drinking with his communist buddies when they privatize and stole the country wealth
>check what any real opposition member who was beaten, lost his job or was imprisoned think about him
The guy was and is a total tool. A pawn who in his arrogance thinks that he has any importance.
Communist need a easily controlled pawn and they use him and replace him when they don't need him. A fucking puppet nothing more.

But I must admit that polish communist did a impressive operation to secure their own wealth and future.
Country was on brink of violent revolution and it was pacified and then nation wealth get divided by its former masters.
Truly impressive but what you can you little faggot.

>>163370409
>there are people literally believing this shit

Jesus christ, it must hurt to be that stupid.

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>>163369669
Yeah white evil dudes
>fucking western guilt and degenerated self hating westerners

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>>163370514
>be half illiterate worker
>suddenly raise to power when your rivals in oppositions or any radical opposition members get killed or destroyed
>get help of government that is supposedly your greatest enemy
>after 'taking' power become best buddy with guys who was your 'enemy'
Gods must smile at him.

>>163352527
Kosciuszko was never the leader of Poland and Walesa is still alive (which is a big no-no for them), not to mention Poland was well past its prime by the time they came around. I think she's a fine choice.

>>163371325
She is actually only real choice if they wanted woman.
Real shame that she had to marry that dirty Lithuanian scum instead of Piast.

>>163371325
But she's a woman, and female characters offend a group of losers who pirate the game anyway, therefore they should have used a male historical figure.

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WHERE'S THE DEFEAT SCREEN

I KNOW ONE OF YOU FAGGOTS HAS IT

I WANT TO SEE THIS BITCH MADE A SEX SLAVE

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>>163372287

>>163360949
>Capture city
>It's full of angry natives waiting for a chance to rebel
>Kill all the natives to increase size of my army
>Wait a few turns as the city is repopulated with my people
It may not have made sense, but it was satisfying as anything.

>>163369167
pls respond

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Is VI fixed yet?

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>Boot up Civ VI
>Play as poland because why not
>Found second city
>Settler gone
>Map stuck in settler mode where everything is red and green
>Close civ VI

Does firaxis HAVE a QA team?

>>163373680
QA team pre-purchased Deluxe edition.

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>>163373680
>Does firaxis HAVE a QA team?

>>163373680
Yeah it sucks that there's no way to change which lens you're using, such as via the lens menu.

>>163372397
>Cleopatra takes the asp when she loses
>Jadwiga takes the potato

>fall update
>winter update
>patch once every season

I regret buying it so much, god damn it.
Fuck everything.
Also
>5€ for a single civ

Yeah, I will be uninstalling and pirating the rest of this piece of shit. Thank fuck for no denuvo.

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Step aside, TRUE leader of Poland coming through.

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Would like to see some bordergore Civ4xg?

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Okay, the game is kinda fun, and I like being able to have a fantasy army to fight against alien invaders, but it feels too limited, and I haven't been able to find how to expand.

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At least the win screen is fun.

>>163375792
what game

>>163377171
8 Bits Horde. With 8 Bits Armies too.

A simple and straightforward RTS that isn't really complex.

>>163377229
i guess they were going for a babby's first rts angle? i dunno

>kind of want to play stellaris
>but i also remember that i didn't enjoy any of my last campaigns

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I seriously can't get enough of Endless Legend.

I have yet to find a RTS game with such replayability and diversity.

Playing Forgotten, Morgawr, Roving Clans etc.. all feels like playing a different game whichever I choose.

I know it's not super balanced, but this game let's you keep the base traits which makes them special but also make them competative or play like you want with the secondary traits which again kinda evens out the balance.


WE NEED MORE GAMES LIKE THIS!


The only games that makes me keep interest after houndreds of hours of playtime is EL and TW:Warhammer.

Stellaris, Endless Space, SoaSE, SotS makes me want to take a pause every 20 or 30th hour where I have to play something else for 10-15 hours minimum.

Civ VI and Age of Wonders III still feel a bit lackluster in depth.

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>>163378583
Oh god I'm retarded.

I ment strategy game, not RTS...

>>163378583
I'm glad for you
I was bored of it by my third game, wish it could have held me

>>163325603
>>163325063
>>163324420
There's a mod featured on the nexus right now that allows the spawn of human fallen empires based on earth, or alien fallen empires based on mares with earth as a tomb world, plus other things.

>>163378758
The amount of micro EL requires with all DLCs is comparable to RTS, so you aren't far off.

>>163378758

This reminds me, we should really try an all types strategy games general.

This time without offending our severly autistic friends.

>>163378336
I guess so. I mean, you can't even recruit from two different barracks at once.
Having more barracks means that your original barracks just make units quicker.

poland is gay

>>163379213
>>163378818

I love the amount of micro I have to do. 90% of the turns got alwasy present me with something to interact with compared to all other strategy games I've played where I just end up waiting and/or move troops everywhere.

Civilization has always had those empty turns where the only thing I do is defend against barbs.

Stellaris has some problems with the mid game where you just mostly wait for tech or planets to grow.

SotS is just waiting for tech or ships, but can't really compare it because its a very aggressive game where WAR is the only thing you hunt for.

Galactic Civilizations III doesnt got much to keep me interested so far. Maybe it's a lot better with the DLC's.

EU IV is something I just have to sit down and try to learn really well to get a feel of all the possibilites.

ES kinda lacks that diverse feel between the factions. ES2 may fix this I hope. (They do talk alot about what they learned from EL so there is hope).

SoaSE with it's RTS gameplay would be a lot more enjoyable with a pause function. (if there is one, then I have never noticed it after 40 hours in it). Again, there is a high chance I'm retarded.

Warhammer is always fun with its tactic combat and huge diversity between troops compared to other TW games which I love.

Age of Wonders keeps being the same build order every time and It doesnt feel THAT diverse between the factions if we look away from the Necromancer which is the faction I play the most because of the converting of factions to become ghouls which kinda let you have everything.

In Aurora, can I have just one Mass Driver receiving infinite number of packets or do I have to expand accordingly?

>>163379391
/gsg/ won't allow.

>>163379391
For me, SoaSE and SotS is as far as I want this general to stretch.

I dont want C&C, Warcraft, CoH, Cities Skylines, Anno or anything like those in my thread.

>>163381685
>my thread

>>163379391
Last time we tried, /gsg/ threw a fit and shitposted all over the thread.
Besides, even here, we have autists that won't allow anything that isn't THEIR brand of strategy.

>>163370409
What's this about conspiracy theories that makes them so appealing to people with above average intelligence that is however outstripped by truly colossal sense of ego?
Why can't they believe in something wholesome and socially beneficial like God instead?

>>163382048
I kinda agree with them because their general is still reasonably active and it doesnt need to be watered down with semi-grand strategy games.

This general though should do fine with games like:

Galactic Civ
Civilization
ES
EL
Stellaris
SoaSE
SotS
MoO
MoM
Age of Wonders
Star Ruler
Stardrive
Fallen Enchantress
Warlock
Heroes of Might and Magic
etc+++


AI War is on the borderline.


I feel games like this is too thin in the segment we look for in games for this thread:
Age of Empires
Planetary Annihilation
Rise of Nations
SupCom
etc+++

>>163382567
Because conspiracy freaks are rare, so it gives them the impression they're part of an elite group that's smarter than the average.

>>163382697
Oh, fuck off with your "only post what I like" bullshit. If we followed your autistic and egotistical desires, /civ4xg/ would already be dead.

>>163382873
>Oh, fuck off with your "only post what I like" bullshit. If we followed your autistic and egotistical desires, /civ4xg/ would already be dead.
No one is working harder to kill the general than people like you.
The more off topic the thread gets, the less people want to post about their 4x.
Couldn't even post 4x images a few threads back because of an rts spammer had reached the image limit.

>>163382873
Oh come on calm down.

So we are going to abandon the 4X general and make a non-gsg general instead? ok

>>163383181
Yeah it's that autistic DoW/CoH retard who is trying to fuck the thread over.

Not that anon, but I don't mind to have RTS related discussions once in a while, as long as they make it interesting and keep the general alive.

>>163383356
So 4X games is a dying breed? or is it that we just dont like to talk about it?

I would love to have a real talk with fellow Endless Legend and Stellaris players, but it seems like everyone is more busy playing...

How ironic.

I have the solution.
We just make an rts general and everyone's happy.

Yes, I know it wouldn't live a day. ;_;
>tfw nearly ded genre

>>163383625
That guy who posts dawn of war and company of heroes images could just go and make a thread on /v/ instead.

>>163383181
>n-no u
Fuck off with your "only post what I like" bullshit, retard.

>>163383218
No. /gsg/ will bomb it again. They want a monopole on "strategy". We keep the Civ/4X in the title, but at this point, we're talking about all strategies.

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Well the fucking "Improved AI" note was a crock of shit!

Fuck this fucking shitty game. Fuck it. It's fucking bullshit garbage. I'm done. I'm not fucking picking up this game until the next fucking EXPANSION.

Fucking Firaxis Kikes. I hope your wives and daughters are raped and your sons do heroin you fucking cunts.

>>163384029
This post is why we're so dead.
Civ6 flopped hard, and there are not enough Endless players to keep it alive.

>>163383218
I guess so, because there is no way to claim that all these RTS games are 4x in any meaningful sense.

It just seems kinda weird that Dominions can support its own thread, with fewer people, while 4x is so dead that we need to bring in all these Starcraft clones for filler.

>>163383726
> They want a monopole on "strategy".

That would be fine, if it was strategy in general and not "strategy made by Paradox Interactive but not that one because it's in space".

>>163384259
Go tell them that.
But before, check the archives. You'll see the horror of the willy wanker yourself, and you'll understand why I'm not really encouraging about changing the name, no matter what shitposters say.

>>163384029
It's the same story as with Civ V which didnt become interestning until the second expansion.

It's the Firaxis cycle.

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Okay why does everything in civ VI feel so sluggish, like I'm ALWAYS struggling.

Like everything takes years to build, so I need to buy some production buildings. But to do that I need to put down an industrial zone. But to do that I need more pop. But I'm out of amenities. But even if I fucking had the ability to buy it, I wouldn't be able to afford it because everything is so expensive and the magical respawning barbarian camps always guarantees you won't be able to run a decent trade empire unless you have cities on every 3 tiles on the map.

And I'm playing on prince! What the fuck am I doing wrong! I'm super good at Civ V and beat that shit on Immortal! What the fuck am I missing!?

>>163384103
Speaking as a /domg/ regular, it has much to do with the fact that we're pretty dedicated, and that /domg/ sort of is a community in a way a lot of other generals aren't. You know the topics, the jokes, the players, and the rough situation in games that are currently going on.
Plus, /domg/ is constantly playing long-running multiplayer games, and a significant amount of diplomacy/arguing/banter about the games goes on in the thread. So there's usually something to talk about.

>>163324089
>has a bigger nose than my IRL Jewish friend

Jesus

>>163384519
That's because there's a production inflation. The more units you have, the more you'll need to make more.

>>163384539
So kinda like the Danganronpa General and the Katawa Shoujo General? And maybe /nepgen/ too?

>>163384539
So you're Undertale General, got it.

>>163384650

Yeah but if I don't have a decent army I'll get fucked by the constant barbs and the bloodthirsty AI! This game is a fucking fun vampire! Every time you start having fun it's like "Hold on there sport Germany has to denoucne you a LITERAL SINGLE TURN AFTER MEETING YOU"

>>163384650
>Katawa Shoujo General
Oh god no, we actually talk about Dominons and Dominions strategy. There's relatively little focus on personas unless you're a certain Polish plumber.

>haven't opened Civ 6 in 2 weeks
>have just been playing Master of Orion instead

How long until Endless Space 2 is "done"?

>>163383504
>I would love to have a real talk with fellow Endless Legend and Stellaris players, but it seems like everyone is more busy playing...
I'll probably get another stellaris game going after christmas.
Then we'll chat.

I've had two games so far.
One in 1.0, one in 1.2.

Last game I played for 200 years and didn't have a single war.

>>163384839
Sorry, the only /domg/ guy I know is Crix. And it's only because I know that whatever comes out of his mouth is shit, and that he's a team-backstabbing turncoat.

>>163384778
Welcome to Civ6. The AI is coded in a way that prevents you from being friend with everyone.

Is the "Continents" map setting in civilization 6 still intended to create two strips of land from top to bottom separated by two oceans, or did they change it?

Also does the Earth map come with predefined starting spots?

>>163384519
Build lots of commercial districts. That will solve your money problems.

Barbarians are your friends. You can send your military units out into the hinterlands to hunt them for XP. This way, they won't cause real problems for you.

Generally speaking, cities can go a little closer to each other than in Civ 5, because of overlap bonuses (which may or may not have been removed in the last patch).

Don't go up to your district cap immediately. Just get a commercial district, then industrial, then entertainment. You don't need a lot of campuses or theaters. (ports are nice but obviously they don't apply to every city)

Don't aim for maximum population. Most of your city's usefulness comes from districts, and people just work the land. Obviously you'll want to be growing generally, but more people = more unhappiness. You can't cure it without high-end entertainment districts.

ABC - Always Be Conquering (except city states; they're awesome)

IS VI FIXED YET?

Just reply and I'll fuck off, I promise.
Did the previous patch do anything?
Because this one, reading the patch notes, didn't seem to do much.

>>163384103
/domg/ hosts games and acts as a hub because the devs are too retarded to make a lobby

>>163385457

Doesn't seem so according to >>163384029

>>163384778
1. Have a decent army.

2. Don't complain about your enemies not being your friends. It's a game in which the other players are trying to defeat you.

>>163384839
The only time I visited Katawa Shoujo General, they were talking about the game. Well, mostly because I started a conversation about Hanako's route being too short and Lilly's route making me feel empty and dead inside.
The rest of the time, it's a blogging general where they cry about their shitty lives but don't do anything to fix it.

>>163385582
Yeah, that too.

>>163385484
>that upkeep
Enjoy being POOR.

>can steal territory with a fort
>it's not a great general thing

this sounds balanced

>>163385668
Not him.

So allied victory is impossible?

It's still weird that other nations denounce you for literally nothing.

>>163385964
I think there's teams online.

>>163385964
Only with allied players. I don't know if Civ6 allows fixed teams.

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shame Townsfolk in the victory screen don't show pops from all the different races you have under you.

>>163386716
Is that just straight up titty?

>>163386851
Sharee need no man, sharee need no bra

>>163385650

That guy seems really buttblasted though.
I need more opinions.
Surely, it must have imrpoved with the patches.

>inb4 why don't you play it yourself faggot

>>163386958
They fixed the AI going BALLISTIC about units in your borders being near theirs.

>>163386716
I like how the banishment and victory screens change depending from your wizard. It really makes the game more interesting.

>>163385964
Multiplayer is a little different, but yes in general only one player can win. The first player to achieve a victory condition wins, and everyone else loses.

Diplomacy is pretty weird, and looking at the designer's blog it seems he had some intentions that might have been good but weren't communicated to the player. You will be denounced if the AI wants to declare a formal war or is unhappy with you. Keep in mind that even if they 'like' you their goal is to win, and the best way to do that is often to conquer someone with a weak military.

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Time for a new game.

>>163388006
>difficulty : impossible
ABSOLUTE MADMAN

was there anything that warlock did that was actually good
i just remember it being a shitty fantasy civ clone

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>>163380103
>SoaSE with it's RTS gameplay would be a lot more enjoyable with a pause function.
you'd be surprised how often this key actually works

>>163388471
>I'm funny nao

I ment a pause button that stops the time in the game, not pausing the whole application.

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>>163388006
nothing to the north of me

>>163389059
Some games are programmed to use the pause button. I won't say that this is one of them, but I recommend you give it a try.

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went with small landmas.


nature/chaos spellbooks, aim is to get:
Raise Volcano from Chaos
Change Terrain and/or Gaias Blessing from Nature
and Transmute from Nature

Then terraform as much as possible

Volcanos is the only way to get rid of Tundra

>>163389059
>he doesn't know that pause also works with the games
Urgh. Casuals.

>>163389117
I don't know why, but I found this hilarious.

>>163389059
>Again, there is a high chance I'm retarded.
got it now

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Neutral town is a halfling town.
Moving a Sprite over there, hopefully it doesn't have any ranged units yet.


Merlin is in this game as well, and we both started with High Elves.

My island extends further south but it's blocked by a Chaos Node.

Are you guys playing Endless Space 2?
I'm thinking about buying into the Early Access.

I'm bored and i don't know what to play

>>163389917
I keep sucking at this game because I keep trying to play it like I would play Endless Legend and Dominions.

>>163390486
Get SEVEN KINGDOMS 2. It's a fun game.

>>163385358

From now on, only the biggest bonus counts.

So yes, was removed.

>>163391210
>Cities can no longer receive yields from more than one regional building per type; they take the highest (ex. production from multiple Factories)

lame
that was cool

Is Civ 6 a good game now?