/nosg/ - Nostalrius general

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I think I'm gonna roll a female human warlock. Warlocks are pretty decent in vanilla right? I know people will fall over themselves to get your summons. How are they in PVP? Also advice on leveling and professions to take?

>>163284150
Oops
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1st for are ret pallies "VIABLE"

>>163284252
you will get stomped by undeads

>>163284334
Literally every hybrid is better than ret.
Yet ret is the most popular hybrid spec.

>be priest
>check chat
>"LFM need tank and dps"
they can't get away with memeing me like this

Crestfall save us

>>163284252
Alliance warlocks are garbage and get cucked hard by undead rogues which are common.

>5k cap on pve server
>watching gaylex stream
>see literally nobody in every zone he's in
uhmmm nostbabs??

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>>163284334
viable for eating shit

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/a/ and /vg are one in the same

hey anons what UI should I get?

>>163284426
Be a man and go shadow

At what point does fury be better for levelling than arms?

>>163284779
Never, fury requires a lot of hit that you won't get while leveling

>>163284779
>>163284779

Never. Whirlwind weapons are two-handed bruv.

>>163284893
>>163284939
fury =/= dw

Guys should I roll Horde or Alliance on the PVP server?

>>163284779
immediately, and drops off at 40. you could go all the way with either spec easily though.

>>163284779
All the way up to 40.

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>3K queue for both servers
>literally just want to check my characters transferred successfully before selling the account

Xth for oldcucks completely and utterly btfo

>>163284680
well you can be a faggot and use a premade UI like pfui or modui
or you can be less of a faggot and make your own UI
or you can use default UI and be a real man (male)

>>163285368
FUCK OFF I2

>>163285369
Real men (men) aren't afraid to spend time to increase the efficiency of their tools.

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Warrior was the only class i could play well in WotLK/MoP/WoD. Will i be ok if i roll a Warr?
And what kind of build/gear i am looking for?

Post funny rejected/accepted (gm's gf) applications and ridiculous requirements from guild forums.

>>163285609
just play

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Is the Elyisum server down right now?

I just finished torrenting the "WoW Classic" 1.12.1 file and put in the Elysium server info in the wtf file. I opened the game and the old gates and shit came up, but after I exited, the game will no longer start. Nothing happens except the "application not responding"

Is this from the Elysium servers getting DDOS'd or is something fucked with my file/computer

>>163285997
That menu is not synced to the actual game, just log on and play

Any good working downloads for the Vanilla server?

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>>163285368

>>163286070

The game application won't open at all after opening for the first time, but immediately closing the application afterward to change the wtf settings. I can't just log on.

My bad, that's not my actual screenshot in the previous post, just the first picture of the login screen I could find if that's what's confusing.

I fucking hate anime posters so much, i wish i could meet you in person so i would knock your fucking teeth out.

>>163285704
I didn't save screenshots, but the application wasn't really an application, just listing off previous WoW experience - but the interview in discord was when it was weird.
The dude said he was requiring 12 hours a day playing while we were pushing for 60, and that staying in voice chat the entire time was mandatory "to create and foster the community".
I wasn't even aware they were tryharding for server firsts until then. I can get to 60 relatively quickly but I don't have any poopsocking plans, and especially don't see the need to listen to fags babble or complain the whole time I'm leveling.
I told him that I didn't mind voice chat but not ALWAYS voice chat, and that while grinding I kind of preferred to chill and listen to music or binge a tv show, and we both agreed I likely was not a good fit.
He wasn't a dick, just very very strange.

>>163285609
take the opportunity to learn a different class

Is there a guild going yet? pls

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>>163286370
Psycho.

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>tfw badly want to play rn but know it's pointless because i'll be playing on fresh

Is it harder to level Horde or Alliance? Assuming no ganks or whatever.

Doing Horde right now and walking through Barrens back and forth is terrible.

>>163286647
>>163286713
Be VERY aware about who you are talking to, me and my gorilla dick will find the scent of your anime faggot pink asshole and it will be throbbing for revenge.

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>have 60 on pve server
>hour long queue to get in
>90% of the server are fucking newfag lowbies
>nobody is running any max level dungeons and theres no 60 BGs popping

Seems like 3/4 of the people who were 60 on nost didn't show up, it's all new people. I just wanted to chill and play some AV while I waited for the fresh server, but that shit isn't happening. I got one AV game on sunday and the server crashed when we were just about to pull vanndar.

>>163286785
Alliance is easier because it was meant for people under 13 years of age.

>>163286785
>barrens
>terrible
The barrens/stonetalon/ashenvale/1k needles route is easier than anything alliance get. If you think that's terrible you should just give up now

>it's an impatient orc/human rogue keeps facepulling episode

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>>163286987
>when I was 12 playing vanilla
>went horde
>now 22
>going alliance
hmm

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so this is the power of nost when you leave a bg

>>163287094
Maybe it's just the overcrowded server making me skip quests.

I've leveled Alliance right before TBC and it seemed more enjoyable.

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>>163287212
when I was 12 playing I was playing vanilla
>went horde
>now 22
>still horde
hmm

IS THE ELYSIUM SERVER DOWN RIGHT NOW OR NOT

WHY CAN'T I OPEN MY FUCKIN GAME CLIENT

>>163287348
git gud

>>163287245
happened to me too. don't know why.

Will some of you log off so I can play? You probably think I'm joking but I've been at work all day and really want to get on for a bit. It would be hugely appreciated.

>>163287245
Name of the aura bars?

>>163287212
>>163287324
>15 horde
>25 horde
4chan makes me feel old now. also browsed /b/ back at 15.

>>163284252
yes they are

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>>163287516
>wagies begging people so they can spend their pressure """""""""free"""""""" time enjoying themselves

why does this make me so hard

>>163287673
how do you make money and live without working?

why do mobs follow so far

>>163287785
not him, but to answer that on my part. Neetbux.
thanks for working so hard everyday on my behalf anon.

>>163287525
elkano buff bar

where is new server i just spent 40k on my new PC for new server

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>people are afking so that they can avoid the shitty queue
Can't make this shit up senpai.

>>163287904
what are neetbux? benefits? that's pretty pathetic otherwise

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Looking good so far.

Not enjoyed an MMO this much in years, kinda sad i'll have to reroll on the fresh server but meh

Is Nihilum on horde or alliance? On PvE or PvP server?

>>163287981
>Desolace

literally the worst zone in the game

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I WANT THESE NIGGER ASS CHINESE DEAD
DEAD I TELL YA
FUCKING DEAD
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>163288119
Why will you have to?

>>163288256
Because everyone will play there.

>>163288119
That's usually how it goes. Vanilla wow was the golden age of mmos. everquest was good, but it just didnt capture the same spirit.

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>>163284150
The bis list is not correct it's the pre dire maul one.

Does anyone have the nost pvp patch pre raid bis list?

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Please just log off so I can play. I have to be up for work in the morning.

>>163288256
Well I don't HAVE to, but most people are going there, and progress is way ahead on this realm already, with guilds killing nefarian on opening day.

>>163288223
Exactly, I go there to avoid being corpse camped for 5 hours.

>>163288396
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, retail is two blocks down.

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>>163288396
But then how will I AFK in IF with everyone else?

>3 days to open an account because the fuckheads can't handle the complex task of sending a verification email
>your position in queue is 2700

This captures the vanilla experience exactly as I remember it

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please everyone, restart your wow client so we all have an equal chance of playing together
some people actually have lives here

>>163288337
in the nost forums there's a warlock sticky with bis lists for every patch (and i think every class)

>>163288337
class forums on nost's website

I want to roll a ret paladin.

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>>163288823
Thank you, I forgot they are still up

>>163288916
then do it. stack reckoning and meme on people.

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HUH

Where can I find leveling advice for mage? Dno whether to take faster frostbolts or less resist chance first

>>163289010
it literally doesn't matter
i will probably get faster frost bolts though

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ATTENTION NIGGERS
I WILL ROLL A HUMAN MAGE
I REPEAT
A QT HUMAN MAGE


HORDE KEKS GET FUCKED

>>163288985

But you can't reckoning meme in raids.

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>>163289005
HUH

So, would a supportive druid rather don a cloth armor?
I understand that their main armor is leather, but wouldn't cloth be better when it comes to healing?

>>163289282
You can Nightfall and suck the GM's dick meme.

>>163284150

Hey OP, add this to the OP, it's the pre raid bis list for the Nost PVP realm The relevant one

>>163289354
Hell, half the time you SHOULD be wearing armour not made for your class, because it has hit% or spellhit% on it

It's too slow guys, I got memed on pretty hard. You need actual autism to get through this shit. I'm level 15 and want to kill myself from the boredom. I'm serious. And no, retail isn't better.

>>163284150
Sorry op, literally no one is going to join the refresh server. What a retarded idea. Enjoy your 5000 chinese.

Fresh when? Im somewhat new to wow, liked the game so far, but dont want to play catch up for years

>worried about tanking because I know I'll be bad after not having done it since actual vanilla/BC
And that's when I realized my anxiety has only gotten worse over the years. rip

>>163289502
The goal isn't just spam to 60 as fast as possible like on retail.

Enjoy the journey

>>163289590
and thats why you suck ass

>>163289576
announcement dec 25th for a release date :^)

Do you guys not fucking update the discord links? I can't join wtf.

>>163289534
Every server will be plagued with chinks so that's irrelevant. According to every single poll we've done, the vast majority of us will be playing on fresh.

>>163289590
Iktf. Luckily I know when I just dive into things it's normally not as bad as I thought it would be and get used to whatever I was having anxiety over. Tanking is basically just spamming sunder armor, no sweat at all.

>>163289662
No anon. That's only ONE of the reasons why I suck ass. Come on

>>163289432
>>163284150

Forgot the link
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TdTqUiDQ-wpHG2z58kLPMV1GJk5uIjIPL0InhRyyTY8/edit#gid=0

>>163289629
I'm trying to get a good route to be competitive on the fresh one but no way. I'm done I think. It's gonna be even worse with all the people (and probably uncapped)

>>163289662
if you've tanked before you will be fine. You will be tanking 5 mans until 60 if you run them and even as a completely new player to the game you can learn most of tanking through that.

More complex things that you can only learn in raid can be read on forums and the bosses can be learned through youtube videos; most of the bosses kills can even be from the previous server.

>>163289748
Yeah I know what you mean. I've missed the sunder armor/revenge life.

Hey Grud, can you please talk to me

t. t2 rogue

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>>163285957
>>163286545

>>163284671
Cute, who is that?

>>163284779
Never. Improved Overpower adds enough damage to be on par with Enrage, except it doubles up as an amazing PvP tool. Arms lets you tank properly due to TM, barely does less dmg than Fury even when factoring Enrage + Flurry and has Sweeping Strikes for burst cleaving dmg which is useful in PvP and sometimes in PvE when you're fighting mobs with pets.

Most important point though is PvP viability of Arms vs Fury before 40. A Warrior that can't stance dance is free game for anyone and everyone to kill. The moment you hit the heavily contested PvP zone (usually mid to late 20s), your life is going to be a nightmare as Arms. Arms becomes overwhelmingly superior once you get Intercept, Pummel and Berserker Rage.

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>>163289797
He won't he's too busy worrying about tricking people into waiting for a "fresh" server that will be unplayable.

Is it true that they fixed some threat generation mechanics and superfast daggers like Alcor's Sunrazor are no longer BiS for tanking?

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alright I gave wow a try but I got bored already after reaching lvl 10 (it only took me 3 days)

vanilla is obviously good and community is awesome, everyone tried to help me, but for some reason I cant enjoy games lately

have fun

>>163288223
You'd think that since it was called 'Desolace' you'd take the hint.

>>163290182
I forgot about him. He's so irritating he actually makes Indi seem likeable.

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>>163290482
>can't enjoy fighting for every fucking bit of exp from level 1 on an overpopulated server with average scripting

Ahah t-too hardcore for you?!

>>163290182
hey what's up

you have 10 seconds to explain why you're not teleporting around

ive never played wow before. Is this a good start?

>Desolace on Nost
>packed full of people
>Desolace on Kronos
>actually desolate
Did Kronos win again?

>>163290335
But we've all agreed weeks ago that we're going fresh. If you want to play on an under populated realm that's on you.

>>163290530
Felwood is also equally terrible. At least Desolace has a kickass dungeon.

>>163290863
Felwood is a pretty important farming location though, for Felcloth and Demonic Runes. Desolace has... What, exactly?

>>163290769
If you like a slower pace than most current MMOs and don't mind the usual MMO combat, then sure. It is free after all.

>>163290396
rage generation on being hit was being calculated pre-mitigation (ie. a tank with 60% armor was gaining 250% of the rage they should have) which led to tanks being able to spam each of their moves without regard to lacking rage ever.

now that vael is the only fight where heroic strike spam is even remotely possible, slower weapons are better for a few reasons
>more windfury damage (horde side)
>better uptime on crusader proc (fixed ppm on the enchant means twice as slow weapon = twice as likely to proc on each hit, which balances out for white hits but increases the proc chance on things like shield slam or revenge)
>parry haste (if you parry the boss you get a larger amount of swing timer reduction, and also you swing at the boss less giving him less chance to parry you)

you should still have a fast dagger available to swap out to, in the case that you do have a full rage bar you want to dump with heroic strikes

>>163290910
Mara
Mara quests with damn good rewards (thrash blade, the trinket, etc.)

>>163290863
Felwood. Fuck Felwood. Used to like the place, thought it had a pretty decent atmosphere.
>ganked by honor grinders
>ganked by farmers
>nearly all mobs in the zone farmed for something
>after hitting 60 I've spent days upon days in this stupid fucking zone farming
I don't think I can stomach seeing it again.

>>163291007
>sub-60 stuff

How do you counter being sapped in PvP?

>>163290910
>a level 50+ zone has better things to farm than a level 30+ zone
you don't say

>>163291081
>stuff that makes you hit 60 faster
Scrub

>>163290769
Have you ever played Morrowind? Vanilla is basically that but with people.

>>163291112
Take it like the bitch you are.

>>163287785
I live with my mother.

>>163291213
you don't hit 60 fast by doing dungeons.

>>163291213
see
>>163291343

>>163290847
No one agreed on shit

>>163291343
>>163291371
>he's too shit and retarded to have dungeon quests so you can just run it once.
Lmao gonna be laughing as a 60 and you're stlll in STV cucky

>>163291343
>implying
Dungeons give amazing exp if you have the quests for them.

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Honestly at this point I'd rather people here wait for the fresh server, the nost pvp is full as is, no need to up the queue times

>>163291406
Spotted the newfag

How do I bypass the queue?

>>163291658
they do, but you're still not going to hit 60 faster

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Just wait for fresh bros, we're all rerolling. It won't have any problems, it'll all be fixed. No lag, herbs/mines everywhere, no one ganking, can actually kill quest mobs, zones won't be packed, no cartels/mafias will form, no Chinese, no content.

>>163291294
But you don't work and live off her?

That's not very accomplished is it? Unless there's more nuance

>>163291841
>Great source of exp
>le won't level faster
????????

Is this one of those pretend to be retarded memes?

>>163291825
It only works for the PvP server.
>get in queue for PvP
>change realm to the PvE
>change realm back to PvP
>repeat until you get in

>>163292086

I thought they patched that?

grud what is going on, come talk to me

>>163292019
just because they give amazing exp doesn't mean it's efficient exp

you are pretty dumb my man

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TdTqUiDQ-wpHG2z58kLPMV1GJk5uIjIPL0InhRyyTY8/edit#gid=2013567391

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17siOKDwgAq34RqCMtPUKYI_wE7yFai7FEtpSIIC7zJQ/pubhtml#

Two BiS spreadsheets and they're completely fucking different
which one vanillafags

literally what the fuck do druids bring to parties
>woow 25 armor
>a shitty heal
>no utility
>no damage
fuck off with this meme class

>>163284671
I cant remember this person at all.

>>163291665
dont worry faggot once fresh is out there will never be a queue on old pvp ever again

>>163292249
Both are good, however the second one is for servers with 1.12 dungeon loot. So go with the first spreadsheet for now (1.12 items not out on any nost realms yet)

>>163292249
The first one mentions mantel of lost hope. I know that one is not in the game yet so I think that one is not correct. Use the other one

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>>163291861
t. alex

When will verification email arrive ? anyone had experience with this slow ass email ?

>>163292498
And what do all the other classes played by brain dead Sea lions that may as well be afk being to the table

I seriously don't understand this false elitism from shitters who never played in vanilla and think clearing mc is akin to progression in original ssc or something... groups of less than 40 had it on farm in vanilla with subpar specs and gear... yet 12 year Olds think you need to min max to clear trash

This is why vanilla private servers are bad

>>163292498
I dislike druids a lot personally, but i see the draw. they are backup tank, backup healer, decent dps. and they make water quests look easy.

>>163292915
>boo hoo I picked the shittiest class in the game why do you have to be so bothered about it
t. tauren druid with some shitty cow pun name

10 heure restart boys

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>>163292719
>>163292721
ty you were nicer than i deserved

>>163292898
use gmail or another domain.

I tried with hotmail and waited over 10 hours, nothing happened

>>163292915
nobody thinks you need to min/max in MC

it's regularly cleared in under an hour with 30 or less people

Why do shit rogues perpetuate the meme that you need you CDs to win a 1v1?

>>163293006
Mad ff ganked your shit?

>>163293230
>implying
I'm sick of these fucking druids applying as a "healer"
nigga I could outheal your heals with fucking linen bandages

>>163291861
except, exactly the opposite you just said
there will be nothing at all

>>163293332
>tfw mend pet puts me higher on charts than druids
Lmao

>>163293145
Btw I meant the other way around. The second one mentioned mantle of lost hope so it's not correct, use the first one, just like the other guy said

>>163293167
To do that, i need to change the email they send to. I see no option to even see my acc details

>>163292898
read >>163293167
Changing to gmail fixed it for me

>>163293556
figured it out, ty

>>163293332
>>163293519
>tfw druid
>tfw cucking basically any other class in 1v1
>tfw they get mad because they lost to the weakest vanilla class, confirming their shitter-status

best feels

Any other paladins on the pvp realm need to so SFK for their mace quest?

>>163293692
thanks guys, but where do i locate the option to change it ?

>its ANOTHER alliance turtles in AV episode
fucking kill me
im never going to get exalted

>>163292006
Most people my age don't work and live off of their parents. Most people my age are putting their parents into debt by pursuing useless degrees.

I figure eventually when we move I'll find an easy part time job. But I have little interest in working a dead end job making profit for another man just for the sake of normality. I don't have delusions of grandeur like you normies and don't waste time and effort on things I don't enjoy doing.

Most normies dream that one day they'll do something great, that one day they will climb the corporate latter, or get a real degree, but they never do. They half-ass everything and a the end of the day they end up where I am anyways.

Constantly climbing over other people to chase the dreams that are being dangled in front of you on a rope by globalist propaganda is more pathetic than living with family, enjoying your days how you see fit, working out, playing games, reading, and researching whatever you want whenever you feel like it to expand your mind is much more appealing to me.

Have fun slaving away and always chasing that social validation. Just a reminder that it's a lot easier to dull that desire than it is to fulfill it.

>>163293964
t. shit that never happens

I wish people would stop posting this kind of bullshit so newbies wouldn't have to fail for it.

>>163293974
you can't, you need to create a new account

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>talk to my best friends gf
>reminds me how of all the reasons why to hate women
>come here
>all the anime/cute posting
fhahwhfaadawda

>>163294216
spotted the salty shitter

bet you play some easy shitter class like rogue/mage and then cry about being distracted when a non-faceroll class wrecks you

>>163294118
Preach, brother. What are you rolling?

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fresh nost when

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I'm retarded give me a run down. Elysium is adding a new fresh realm Elysium PvP but still keeping NOST PvP and PvE in the list and we're all going to Elysium PvP?

>>163294379
Class or server?

>>163294437

Yes.

>>163294509
both

>>163292498
>friend fell for the druids are good meme and started leveling a tauren one
my god the giggles that came from this shit after she learned that it was 100% garbage and just some "fill the last spot in the raid" class

>>163294118
Yeah I'm sure my law degree is useless.

I'm sure you never committed or tried in school and took a bunch of low level classes and most likely would go into some shit like "sport science" in uni, then complain your degree is useless, you idiot.
Yeah because making money and getting a job is obviously a delusion of grandeur.
Not really, I just want to make money, have a family, and have a job that is worthwhile respectful and worth my time, like most people out there. And those are by no means, extremely high or deluded goals. Yours on the other hand, is looking to work some part time job. Nice one
Nothing wrong with competition in the workplace, or committing yourself to reach new levels in life, There is literally nothing wrong with that.
You have such a child mentality of literally "I do what I want as fun", ignoring the reality of adulthood and that sometimes you actually have to grow up.

I genuinely think you're mentally ill, or those who possess such mindsets by trying to justify it with extremely strawmanned or exaggerated points, have serious problems.

But whatever, keep telling yourself whatever you want to make yourself not feel bad when you look in the mirror every morning.

>>163294437
The "we are all rolling HERE" shit is a meme.

There is no "we". The server is too big. Unless you're some newfag who is dead set on specifically playing with /vg/ guilds don't listen to that retarded shit.

With that said a lot of people are planning to play the new server. But the old server is still going to have a very large pop.

Just play wherever the fuck you want. Or better yet, FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

>>163294538
So should I keep playing NOST PvP or wait for the new one?

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>spicy bois

>>163294254
Ok, worked now, thanks! though it assigns me to a test realm, and i get immediately Dc'ed

>>163294685

Play for fun, but don't go balls to the wall. Elysium PvP will be the main attraction and the server to play.

>>163294612
don't know why the greenposts didn't come up
wierd

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look you fat worthless female making toon nobody... no one has ever or will ever play this game to try and impress you fat bear back hariy ass. just because you feel so small that you think you need to prove yourself to everyone doesn't mean others do.
check you crappy attitude at the door

>>163294841
>fun
>he thinks vanilla is fun

I just heard about this "Devilsaur Mafia" shit. Are they coming back? How is this shit even allowed?

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>tfw you're easily manipulated by girl characters who use exclamation points a lot

>>163294882
looks like you got blown the fuck out

>>163294892

Fuck off, retailcuck. Why are you even in this thread? Don't you have some world quests to do?

>>163294882
get this hothead outta here

the alliance's dominion in pvp is well deserved.

what professions for mage if I want to be a dickhead?

>>163294509
Satan's lettuce.

>>163294892
it's fun if you take your time, don't use guides and do instances

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>>163295070
Literally kill yourself!

>>163294612
>Yeah I'm sure my law degree is useless

uhh... senpai...

>>163295276

Enchanting and Tailoring is GOAT combo for mage.

>>163295368
not the same anon but how is a law degree useless

>>163294612
I wish you knew how to write properly so your post didn't hurt to read. Please learn how to green text and format your words next time or simply don't bother trying to engage in conversation.

I didn't go to any post secondary. I dropped out of high school. I'm not directly attacking or judging you as an individual, I'm responding to your attacks at my lifestyle with condescension. It's a common normie tactic to attempt to flip things around and play the victim. Like when a homophobe attacks the gay man and acts offended when the faggot responds in kind.

I don't have to remind myself of anything. That's a really foreign concept to me. Remind myself not to feel bad? I simply don't feel bad. Is this a common practice for normies? Do they need to constantly reassure themselves that they are living the correct life? Interesting.

Mental illness/mental disorders are interesting things. Sometimes they are blatant, but a lot of the time it simply boils down to perspective and semantics. I have a hard time taking the entire field seriously given how fickle the human mind can be. It's virtually impossible to draw a line between sanity and insanity. Between a personality trait and a personality disorder. At what point is there disorder? Mental disorders are really just relative to what society considers to be orderly. So if society changes does that mean personality disorders and their classification adjusts accordingly?

But yes, under most definitions I'm probably a fucking nutjob.

Still not a wagecuck though

>>163294560
Waiting for fresh. Haven't decided the class yet. Either warlock, prot warrior, or resto shaman. Maybe a druid. I have a hard time deciding classes.

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>>163294932
What's there to disallow? Get some people together and contest the spawns if you want.

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>>163295345

>>163294612
>law degree
>no job
>nost playing nobody
>talking shit anyway
it all checks out

it's real

MAGE

ROGUE

WARRIOR

Which?

>>163295545
I think the whole thing is that its a cross-alliance guild with tons of Chinese players, so even if you wipe out one side you now have to compete with the farmers on the other who hog nodes

>>163295650
Priest

Is arcane really useless?

>think the chink problem is a meme
>play for a few days on my old character
>it's not a meme
Sorry guys

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>>163295918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozuk6aeWpXk

WE ARE NOT

I REPEAT

WE ARE NOT PLAYING ON THE NEW SERVER

>>163295475
As stated before here >>163294875
I don't know why the greenposts didn't post.

>I didn't go to any post secondary. I dropped out of high school. I'm not directly attacking or judging you as an individual, I'm responding to your attacks at my lifestyle with condescension. It's a common normie tactic to attempt to flip things around and play the victim. Like when a homophobe attacks the gay man and acts offended when the faggot responds in kind.
I'm not really sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm being a victim, I have no victim complex to embrace, nor would I have any reason here to imply or act like a victim.

I don't have to remind myself of anything. That's a really foreign concept to me. Remind myself not to feel bad? I simply don't feel bad. Is this a common practice for normies? Do they need to constantly reassure themselves that they are living the correct life? Interesting.
Well see not that I speak for all "normies", but we tend to think that there must be reason to life, that we must help each other as a species and learn to live in society. Done so by as stating previously, getting a job, having a family ect ect.
Maybe not feel bad, but not feel worthwhile or achieved. What have you done to help society, what have you done to validate your existence to your mother for example, what have you done to further mankind, what have you done that's worthwhile and respectful of as to have lived a human life? Maybe a better way to say it

Not gonna bother with the mental illness part, not really my subject or field. But I think mental illness are where they are issues with the brain that cause major indifference's from that of a normal human brain structure. I don't think it changes based on community or opinion.
As said, mental disorders are where a brain doesn't function correctly to the natural objective standard that's determined in all socities,at least that's the way I'd think they'd be determined.

And I'm playing on fresh as well.

>dont want to play druid because druid is a really strange class
>don't want to play shaman or paladin that much for some reason either
>want to play priest
>but no warrior/warlock to play with
FUCK

Reminder -- Hillary Clinton was too smart to get elected, and that cuckolding is the intellectual's fetish.
Reminder -- The fresh server is a meme and will be a shitfest not worth trudging through

>>163296129
And I still fucked up the greenpost this time around. I'm an idiot

>>163296116
That's right... we're waiting for the newer one!

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I don't think cooking has much practical use, but it still feels nice to hand out little buff snacks I've made at my fire to people who I think are having a rough day.

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>>163296149
>want to level up with someone
>/vg/ guilds aren't playing
>people in the thread want some weird fucking relationship

Are they releasing both a fresh PVE and PVP realm, or only a fresh PVP realm?

>>163295553
How is a law degree useless please explain?

as well as im in uni so I don't have a job atm, but I might get one part time

>>163296362
I was totally kidding about the relationship by the way.

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>>163296303
very sweet

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>>163296303
some people are to pure for this world.

>>163296362
nigga what are you playing
I'm not interested in some gay relationship, I just wanna slap retarded mobs with someone who doesn't consist of memes.

So I'm a bit worried. Just how hard is it to get specific items? I'm looking at lets say Giantstalker's Belt and all the drop rates are lower than 1%

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=16851

Now I know very little about WoW, but do you just hop from enemy to enemy, or will you actually eventually get what you want?

>>163296386

Only a PvP realm is planned, but both would be better. Elysium PvP will be overrun as fuck.

>>163296303
>>163296504
>>163296603
How do I become a cuteposter. I need it in my life. 3D women are evil

What do I do to have fun in this game? So far I'm just killing mobs over and over and doing some quests that require me to kill mobs over and over.

>>163296676
auction house.
that is impossible to farm for

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Threadly reminder that it's not gay to suck off a girl (male) as long as the dick is feminine.

You are all jealous of my boipussy tbhq

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>>163296884
Finally someone here talking sense.

>>163296737
Soak in the atmosphere, do shit other than rushing to max level.

Protip, Disable sounds with Ctrl+S but keep the game music playing.

>>163296816
ok, but would it end up being massively expensive?

And are any items "Bind on Get", or are they all neutral/BoE

new pve ch- horda or ally?

>>163296676
a group of people will run troughout the world doing content
small amounts of said groups get said drop and sell it
you buy it
WOOOOOOOOW

>>163296116
Please play on the new server, I want all the cancerous /vg/ faggots to flee the old server because you're even worse than the chinks.

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IT KEEP HAPPENING
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>163295832
this desu.

go shadow and see the other faction be driven before you

>>163297117
what the fuck is wrong with your resolution

>>163297117
You have no clue. Nostalrius is exactl how vanilla was.
Sincerly, Alex

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>>163297103

>Anon resorts to reverse psychology.

Am I the only one not to get any mail verification ?

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Be honest /nosg/, would you fuck her?

>>163295421
It's really hard to get a job. There was a huge excess in people that had law degrees a while back, and it got so bad that most firms wouldn't take anyone without experience and a lot of people with JDs were forced to open up their own firms just to make minimum wage and pay the bills. It's gotten better, but there are still a lot of problems with having a law degree, and it being hard to find decent employment is definitely one of them.

>>163297406
That's a boy.

>>163296736
amass cutepics, speak plainly in short sentences, use exclamation points

>>163297117
Good. That's what you get for spamming /1 with your Hillary Clinton shit talking and cuck bullshit, faggot.

>>163296254
hownew.ru

this site has everything you need to know about the basics of posting on 4chan

it's a guide site, of sorts

>>163296676

It's lower than 1% because it can drop off every trash mob in Molten Core and there's tons of them.
Compared to the other pieces of Giantstalker set, which can only drop off a single boss so you have 1 chance for it to drop per week.
Every MC run you'll get at least a couple epic belts/bracers drop off trash.
Yes, it will be very expensive to buy off the auction house.

>>163296129
>I'm not really sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm being a victim, I have no victim complex to embrace, nor would I have any reason here to imply or act like a victim.

You came off as incredibly defensive. To be defensive implies you're being attacked, which implies you're a victim.

It's good to learn how to separate the individual from the collective when discussing certain things. I can very easily say people should live a certain way to create a productive society of 320 million people. But the reality is much different and communism can be a dangerous drug.

>natural objective standard that's determined in all socities

There's no fucking way you could ever define that in any meaningful way. Is a faggot mentally ill because he doesn't fit the objective standard? If he lives a very successful life most would say no.

A lot of "mental disorders" are 100% circumstantial. I see illness as a physical thing. I have a hard time seeing the mind as a physical object. Maybe that's ignorant but under the general definition of mental illness someone can go from being perfectly healthy to suffering from """"major depressive disorder""" in a few months because someone is mean to them or their boyfriend dumped them or some shit. That's why it's so hard to take it seriously. If something can be cured by a few words or a new relationship than I wouldn't classify it as an illness.

Being sad, being different, it's not an illness. I could become a normie over night. For all intents and purposes if I were to interact with someone else outside of my home they wouldn't have a single clue that I haven't left my house in 9 months.

>>163296149
just make a fucking undead priest and drop your name, and we'll play

Anyone have that 1-39 warrior guide?

>>163297604
hit stuff in head with axe

>>163296997
You've never played WoW? Most items are "bind on pickup", including instance drops and quest rewards. A few are "bind on equip", and these can be sold at the auction house. The best ones do get expensive, but they basically aren't required for anything.

>retrieving character list
what did they mean by this?

>>163297661
meant leveling guide*

is there a point to playing on the nostalgia servers? when is fresh start?

>>163297763
hit stuff in head that gives exp

>>163297431
Where are you talking about btw, I'm in the UK, may be different for the US.

And I'm specialising in Contract and potentially corporate law, which are the two most "rare" I guess, so that's something

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>>163297475
No anon, it's a girl (male).

>Gnomes, Humans and Dwarves camping quest objectives in Darkshore

SEND THEM BACK. BUILD WALL. KALIMDOR FOR THE ELVES.

Why are the dungeon sets BOP and class specific? Had dreadmist belt and beaststalker bracers drop today and they're both BOP

>>163297767
Sometime in 2017. But fresh is only for cucks who like to watch other people play and have fun.

Unded rogue or Human Mage?

>Man kind has been hunter/gathere since the dawn of time
>Humans can't be hunters


uhhhhh, nostards?

9 HEURES

>>163298012
human mage so i can gank u bich

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got banned for the name kumshot.

this server is not the same .this server is shit.

>>163298257
I call bullshit. They would of just forced you to change the name

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>>163298129
>thinks humans can tame tigers
Try it out!

wtf why dont the quests show me where to go

>>163297604
Download questie and vanillaguide.

>>163298372
get questie for the retail experience

>>163297604

Do quests, grind stuff. use a h2 and retaliation. It is a harsh road. If it is your first time leveling, enjoy the trip.

>>163297878
this was in the US so yeah, it may be different for the UK

If you're looking to get into law, or are already committed to it, you should obviously be doing a lot of your own research on the field, its employment prospects, how to network properly, etc so you don't end up as a burgerflipper or Joe LawyerMcGee working 9 dollars/hr

Corporate lawyers do make a shitload of money though, I've heard. But you'll probably learn more about it than me, since you should be doing your own research about it if you're at all serious.

>>163298612
Ah I'm still in Uni, I've done internships with a few recommendations from those which is good.

I'm in second year now, this coming summer I'll be working at one of the biggest places in the northeast of England, so that should be good.

But you're right though, with law and most other jobs, it's a lot about how you present yourself, your personal experience, who you know ect ect

>>163298002
i could be wrong and i'm not going to look it up, but i think belts/bracers were always bop. Maybe boots also. There rest are boe.
Again, i could totally be remembering it wrong because i am legally retarded.

>>163298257
Crestfall can't come soon enough

>>163298839
yes, cant wait for me and my grandgrandgrandchildren to sit in our holo table counting the days to crestfall release.

How the fuck do I afk without getting kicked from the game? I don't want to have to sit in a 2 hour queue as punishment for making some lunch.

>>163298768
Fairly certain belts, bracers and gloves are suppose to be BOE while the rest of the set and the eventual updated set are all BOP

>>163297406
This made me cry :(

I'm retarded someone spoonfeed me the release schedules or just what's the latest content

>>163297589
don't listen to this faggot, make a cute human/nelf priest and play with me instead

>>163299041
Fuck, i'm retarded. That was what i meant and just mixed boe/bop around for whatever reason.
Basically i have added nothing and only made myself confused.

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>>163299004
>not realizing that the expectation to ANYTHING in life is always so much gratifying than actually getting it
>not tricking your brain into releasing an endless stream of endorphines into your system naturally every day from the hype of the >next< new server soon starting

>>163298343
ofc i changed it to kumshott afterwards. gm's are cunts.

>>163299014
No queues up right now

is there a bis list for classes and specs?

also how is the pre-bis list ranked, if its even ranked at all, like is it top is the best/hardest to attain and so forth?

PLS HELP

I'm seriously thinking about just killing myself. The only thing I have left in life is Nost but playing on here makes no sense, I have leveled to 60 and raided so much there won't be anything new to experience. The friends I make aren't real friends proven again and again by certain incidents.
Outside of Nost my future is a degree, then getting a job but for what reason?
Feels like I'm done with life. Don't know what is stopping me, maybe the fear of what comes after death.
>hurr, retarded 18year old
30 soon

What's the most in demand type for end-game PVE? Healer? Tank? DPS? I'll roll on the fresh server, but I want to get an idea of what'll be needed.

>>163299280
Hehe :^).
But for real though, perma ban?

>>163299317
nice blog
kill yourself faggot

>>163299317
Don't do it, anon. I know that's a cliche but still. People here care about you even if you think we don't.
I feel very similar to you. I'm older than you fags, work from home, have a fun job. And hate everything about myself. The only thing stopping me from ending it is hurting my family. And who would feed my dog?

Everything sucks, nothing is ever that fun, and people will always turn out to be liars and fakes.
Roll on fresh with me and let's punish the world, starting with nesingwary and redridge.

>>163299378
Healer
Really, the supply almost always matches the demand so if you avoid warrior, rogue, and hunter you're good to go

Im rather new, i leveled a warrior to 23 before nost death, the character is pretty unoptimized but i learned a lot.

I want to roll a new char, but the early-mid game economy is so fucked thanks to the server being so old + all the chinks.

Will the fresh server be a meme? Should i start the grueling to catch up on the old sv, or wait for the new one?

>xferred level 16 dorf hunter from elysuim
>need to change his name
>can't think of one
goddamnit i liked my stupid name and it wasn't even something that people would take.

>>163299280
Yeah, nice meme. According to realmplayers that player never existed.

>>163299317
Men peak around 30. Just be good at or enjoy what you do so you can escape to the nerd life indefinitely. Anything else you want will follow

>>163299623
>fresh
I've actually decided fresh release will be the day I jump off the bridge I found yesterday.

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vanilla dark portal looks so cool

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>>163299317
>my future is a degree, then getting a job but for what reason?

to provide a valuable service hopefully someone is willing to pay for, so you can pay someone else to provide you with valuable services

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Who cares about having ANY skill at all when you just do retard level burst damage.

>>163299317
https://www.utilitarianism.com/greg-egan/Reasons-To-Be-Cheerful.pdf

>>163299768
fresh server will be fine, but the economy will become fucked after a month or two. you don't need to do AH shopping pre-60 anyway.

>>163299754

All right, was gonna roll a priest anyway, but good to know I won't be fighting with the scum to get a dungeon.

>>163299317
Don't suicide man, it's not a solution.
Just make a country trip or maybe some drugs.
There's a chance you will find something worth living for.

Could someone tell me how active the BG queues on the PvE server are at 60?

I'd like to level without being ganked, but my main interest is also PvP.

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>>163299902
I mean there is a point at which you press one button for results and it actually works.

I hate myself so was browsing through the huge bnet "classic servers discussion" stickied thread in the general forum.
What compels some of these dudes who wish for "blizzard to shut down these fools again" not just once, but then arguing about how badly they want the swat team to arrest the terrible pirates for hundreds of pages?
I can understand simply not wanting to play on a private server, or not being into vanilla, preferring retail, etc etc, but can't fathom having that amount of anger about people liking something you don't.
Forums are a huge mistake.

>>163299902
that is the most beautiful UI and bars I ever saw
please tell me their names?

>>163299915

Im talking mostly about making money with professions from 1-59

>>163299902
DAGGERED
If he would have been fast enough he could of just feared and have a decent chance. Why is it your fault that he sucks?

>>163299317
everybody replied to this weepy af blog post

>>163299298
but an actual question gets ignored

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm REALLY MAKES U FUCKING THINK

>>163299850
Where do you live?
I have a sweet unopened tango&cash vhs tape you can have if you're close and promise not to jump.

>>163300091
Trinket and proceed with stabbing

>>163299998
They're paypigs playing cellphone facebook trash and leaning on one another for reassurance, and you just missed quints

>>163300071
https://github.com/shagu/pfUI

Uses this as a basis

>>163299902
>>163299984
>troll rogue
LOL

>>163299984
I hate geared rogues. hell, you could probably still do this not geared. can't do av on my alt without some rogue ambush vanishing me all game.
>>163300076
why are you gold farming pre-60? if it's your mount then grinding specific mobs will always be more efficient

>>163300245
It makes people extra mad. Totally worth it.

>>163300224
god bless

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Do horde even do raid content these days?
I'd love to party up with a tauren and an undead, but that's literally it.

Who the fuck plays orcs and trolls anyhow?

>>163300190
>and you just missed quints
story of my life. i'm going to jump off a bridge with that other anon. it's all downhill from here.

>>163299978

PvEbros please respond.

>>163300297
why would it make them extra mad? you think people get more mad when they are killed by specific race? thats fucking ridicilous

chromie is NOT a slut, alex

>>163300450
people get mad by undead

>>163300450
Gnomes?

how do I warsong gulch?

>>163300132
nah something I can't post here happened that sealed the deal for me, no going back now
Oh and I'll shitpost ITT until they announce fresh, nothing else to do

>>163300450
I mean without doing the "u mad" routine, but it already got replies from you because of it. A surprising amount of horde players whisper me because they see a troll rogue and they get upset.

You should see my troll priest though, now that one is just blatant angry whisper bait.