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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, December 20th:
69 – Vespasian, formerly a general under Nero, enters Rome to claim the title of Emperor.
1192 – Richard I of England is captured and imprisoned by Leopold V of Austria on his way home to England after the Third Crusade.
1522 – Siege of Rhodes: Suleiman the Magnificent accepts the surrender of the surviving Knights of Rhodes, who are allowed to evacuate. They eventually settle on Malta and become known as the Knights of Malta.
1924 – Adolf Hitler is released from Landsberg Prison


>News
CK2 DD35: Who ordered these monks?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dd-35-who-ordered-these-monks.989846/

EU4 - 13/12
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-13th-of-december-2016.988299/


>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[HoI4] - Après Moi, Le Déluge
http://www.moddb.com/mods/apres-moi-le-deluge

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V9
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

Old Thread >>163202973
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>50 cement eating bureaucrats early
fucking kill me
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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2nd for MP WHEN?
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>>163271697
Nice Mussolini pic but I don't know what that means.
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Reminder to report and ignore Bosnians
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>>163271818
>consume means eat
>>>/r/steamcordplaza
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reminder that serene republic of venice is best serene republic
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>>163271573
You're right, common terrorists aren't this classy. It even feels weird calling him a terrorist. He only went for the guy with political value and spared the lives of the hostages, who could all very well be drinking wine or something else in the event.
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>>163271770
They WERE all isolated incidents. Do we have daily terrorist attacks? No.
Besides, what evidence is there that it was inspired by Islam? Absolutely none.
It looks to me like a man going crazy around winter holiday time, which is not suprising and not new, especially considering he might see native people preparing for celebration and feel unwelcomed.
So he made a bad split second decision and some people died.
It happens. We should learn from it and move on instead of going
>muh muslims
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>>163271403
>>163271069
>>163271216

Current suggestions:
>Convert Suomi to Sunni
>Go full meme with Suomi borders

More ideas welcome.
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>>163272093
>a black suit is 5 grand
we need national socialism now
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Rehost MP fuckers you only have three people!!!
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>>163271627
Based
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>>163271879
SAM aka steam achievement manager.
I deleted some eu4 cheevos with it, so i know it works.
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>>163272153
Recreate the ancient finnish empire
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>>163272093
>not wearing matching jacket and trousers
Who does that?
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>>163272093
>Quran - $0

What did he mean by this?
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>>163272607
Pretty sure they give them free at mosques.
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>>163272285
Thank you my Italian friend.
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>>163272153
Unify Christianity as an Iconoclast Turk
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>>163272697
THAT WAS GADDAFI YOU TWIT
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>>163272697
I am actually jewish, you are welcome though.
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>>163271804
>hating millions of people because of the actions of a few
Yes only rednecks and trailer trash do this
The other option is being as dumb as them and that's the same thing
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>>163272142
wew now i know you re just baiting for you's. pls kys lad.
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>>163272848
if they didnt let in people from that group the actions of the few wouldn't happen you dumb cunt
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>>163272812
Hey Johan when are you going to announce Vicky 3?
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>>163272848
Is this bait? If so you've done a very good job of portraying the mindset of a redditor.
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>>163272895
>/pol/ cucks spend so much time in an an echo chamber, they think every differing opinion is b8ing
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>>163273059
>a group of people can control the actions of everyone
So its the latter
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>>163273139
>redditors spend so much time downvoting hurtful comments they think they can correct the record on /gsg/
ah yes
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https://www.strawpoll.me/11920422
Poll options. I threw in a Western Europe option because the border gore upsets me.
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>>163273397
>post dissenting opinion
>hurr durr le ctr reddit
I want SJWs to go away already.
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>>163272795
I want to play Gaddafi in Vicky 2 now. How could this be accomplished?
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Reminder, etc.
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>>163273647
Start as Libya and try to win against Ottomemes
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>>163273692
Dattebayo.
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>>163273603
>"dissenting opinion"
>agreed upon by all of the politicians, all of the media, all of the universities, all of the mainstream establishment
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""dissenting opinion""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>163273603
and i want retarded immigrants from /v/ to go back to the shithole you come from. no one wants you here, centrist retards like yourself that believe that they are better than everyone else because they have no convictions should be executed like the worthless parasite you re.
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>>163273603
>I want SJWs to go away already.
Then leave, door's over there >>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Is the MP going to take place today?
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It's fucking time paradox. Now you just need to fix the fucking "historical" landgrab missions for country since you didn't do it when you updated provinces.
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Why these faggots dont build army?
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>>163274142
Post income
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>>163273828
>guy who endorses databases for muslims and want to round up and deport 16 million latinos is going to be president of america in a month
>fashist front national might be the strongest party in france
>fashist and neoreactionary parties on the rise in whole europe
BUT LIBERALS AND JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING WAAAHHH
How is that victim complex going, bud?

>>163273938
Literal mental illness
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>Nazi Germany
>Fighting a one front war against Russia
>making good progress
>look at america for a second and then back
>a spaghetti line from my front line to leningrad
>what the fuck is happening
>it is a bunch of Radical Yugoslavia's soldiers
>a couple months later
>see 5, 4 province deep spaghetti lines into enemy territory

these are truly some advanced tactics by the Radical Yugoslavians
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>>163274142
Cuba exists in 1607?
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>>163274095
>It's fucking time paradox
>some fucking ships are going to make this cancerous mana sim playable
Why can't you just stay on /r/paradoxplaza?
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>>163273785
I don't think it's releasable in '36
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>>163274229
>fashists
>russian puppets and authoritarian populista

Wew, lad. You guys are really desperate.
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>>163272262
Ever hear of Hugo Boss you dumb nazi cuck
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>>163274229
not an argument. go back to /v/ faggot. there you can jerk off with other retards about how cool and great is to be a spineless faggot while you follow a 30 year old manchild as your idol. also

>Literal mental illness
Not an argument
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>>163274229
>fashist
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>>163274397
Not him but monkeys aren't allowed here, please leave.
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>>163274395
I meant Tripolis.
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>>163274446
You don't see the argument because your brain is broken to the point you can't understand simple logic
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>>163274596
>your brain is broken to the point you can't understand simple logic
woah atlast i truly see
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>>163274308
>Not wanting your asian ships to look asian
>When muslim had theirs since forever ago
I like how you ignored the second sentence which was aking for them to fix shit too, here's your (you).
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>>163274596
Your brain is so broken you can't even spell "fashist" or comprehend it's meaning. Go dribble a baby toilet, dipshot.
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>>163274579
Not him but the most prestigious members of this general are Brazilians, stupid gringo. You get out.
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>>163274596
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>>163274846
he's probably a guy named pablo gonzales from los angeles
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>>163274212
They obviously have gold. They just refuse to train troops for some reason.
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>>163274397
I literally said nothing about russia pal.
Are you even reading anything your oponents write or just responding to imaginary strawmen liberals?

>>163274446
Not an argument to you to sir
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>>163274761
I don't play that RNG shitter game, so I don't care how the asian ships look in it.
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>163274793
>>163274468
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>>163274931
Then go back to liquoria 2.
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>>163274229
>fails to see how the rise of fascist against muslims benefits the jew.
pleas kys lad
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>>163274928
try reloading the save , or declare war against someone.
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>>163275114
Why don't you go back to praying your king shits out more points, you reddit fuck?
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>>163275270
>extremely smart ones
they dont leave their fucking country because they are successful there.
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>>163275080
You were the one using add hominiums in place of an argument.
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>>163275080
>not knowing how to spell your most important insult
fuggin gommunosts
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ORSINIUM REBORN
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>tfw to smart to play Victoria 2
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>>163271627
W&B
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>>163275382
Just start off by offering them better payments in the engineering and medicine fields than their home countries (which are still mostly part of the third world).
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>>163273532
I'll give to the hour before taking the result from the poll. If it's a draw, I'll let the digits of this response determine.

>Evens Iconoclast Turks
>Odds Waldenesian Franks
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>>163275604
or instead of brain drain and creating worse 3rd world problems, increase birth rates with natives, support the smart ones in their own countries and have a better world generally.
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>>163275495
Is that the version someone from /gsg/ was working on or Elder Kings?
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>>163275671
or stop giving a shit about the welfare of savages and keep them away from your women and children.
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>>163274928
Oh you're talking about your colonies, I'm pretty it's a mix of tariffs, colonies and being a subject nation that make them poor as hell.
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>>163275720
They released an official version just yesterday, it's pretty neat.
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>>163275604
they dont need any of that shit m8. they are literally some form of oligarchy. they are able to have as many slaves as they want and also, why would you need immigrants from third world countries in the first place. the world is already overpopulated, there are not enough jobs anymore. the only correct way to move forward is by accepting eugenics and creating a government founded eugenics program.
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>>163275895
>the world is already overpopulated
Please, you are embarrassing yourself with your teenager level understanding of literally any shit you try to talk about
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>>163275856
What they added?
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>>163276069
not an argument.
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>>163275520
>Chess
>Not nothing more than a bunch of counter-play
Might as well be playing LoL or Dota baka
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>>163276069
yes im sure Africa getting to 4 billion, being the poorest continent, by 2100 is a teenage level understanding
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>>163276069
I bet you are between the ages of 12 and 30.

If I could guess correctly that shows how immature you are that you're immaturity just seeps through your posts. You probably think agenda 21 and communism will create a better world for the animals and environment and other gay shit. HInt: The world doesn't work like a magical video game where everything is free and you can cum all day. Grow up.
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>>163275495
Disgusting, orcs don't even belong in the mountains
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>>163276131
>doesn't know shit about what he's talking
>point that out
>pointing out I'm spewing wrong shit isn't an argument


>>163276197
Shit its 2100 already, boy do time fly.
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>>163276104
Lots of stuff, really hard to list. I'd say Orsinium got a big overhaul with the way it's handled. You can form it anywhere if it's nonexistant as long as you're an orc with enough prestige and gold.
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>>163276197
>the world is already overpopulated because Africa is going to have 9999999 billion nigglets in some centuries

Fascinating...
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>>163276334
still not an argument. the only thing you re shitting out of your mouth is ad hominem. A.K.A not an argument
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>>163276362
no the world is already overpopulated by having a unsustainable growth of population
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>>163276457
>he doesn't know what an ad hominem is
>shouts out 'not an argument' like that would validate his 12-year-old understanding of population, demographics and economics
Its like I'm talking to sjws
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>tfw you make Ireland british in eu4 without ever going to war with any irish kingdom

Is there a comfier feel?
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>>163276642
>retarded
>faggot
It's like I'm talking to a faggot retard
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>>163276627
It isn't, there's more land to convert for farming use. If we had an overpopulation problem we'd have global famine. That's how nature work.
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Reminder that the world is overpopulated come on we have 4 billion people in Asia and unemployment exists and it a 2016
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>>163276642
>adverb & adjective

>(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

>keeps on using ad hominem and tries to change the definition so it works out on his favor
KYS
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>>163276720
He doesn't know what 'unsustainable', overpopulation or 'ad hominem' means
Just give up
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The entire world just needs to become industrialized so solve the issue of birth rates spiraling out of control. Modern medicine+abundant food = More kids,
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>>163276290
>I bet you are between the ages of 12 and 30.
woha who told u my age
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>>163276720
most of the farming land is located in africa. there is not going to be any form of farming in that continent since the retarded population that habits that continent is incapable of farming. they are dying of famine in that shit continent.
also a lot of finite resources are gone because of exploitation for first world goods, if the population keeps on growing the world is going to end up like china and india.
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>/gsg/ in the thread
>Good borders, historical claims, aesthetic landmasses.

>/gsg/ in MP
>nation looks like shit thrown at a wall and seeing what stuck

Why is this?
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>>163277128
because youre a blobbing faggot you idiot
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God damn France got fucking railed in MP

Don't go over infamy lads
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>>163277128
Because multiplayer is the domain of 12-year-old plebbit posters
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>>163276804
>said your position is teenager level
>nuh-hu you are attacking me HELP HELP RA- I mean AD HOMINEM
Literally child-level reading comprehension
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>>163277128
because of hugboxers and a retarded KuK austriums
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>>163277173
t. Ivanvsky D'Picard
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How does the vassal system in Shogun actually work? I've been giving it a spin, and it seems similar to CK2, but I can't find any way of establishing the equivalent of a duchy and handing it out to a vassal. At one point I had a vassal ask me to become a daimyo, and I cannot for the life of me even figure out if I have a dimyo title myself, let alone how to give him one.
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>>163277104

International zones could be put up in Africa, to allow for innovative uses of the land, high-tech infrastructure, good universities etc for the home country hosting it. Also, more countries in Africa need strong leadership, but not primitive
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>>163277104
>Lots of finite resource
We'll find alternative. Peak oil was moved at least three times since I've been born.
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>>163276907
>>163276804
looks like the retard that doenst know what overpopulation, unsustainable and ad hominem means is you.

>Overpopulation is an undesirable condition where the number of existing human population exceeds the carrying capacity of Earth. Overpopulation is caused by number of factors. Reduced mortality rate, better medical facilities, depletion of precious resources are few of the causes which results in overpopulation.

>un·sus·tain·a·ble
>adjective
>not able to be maintained at the current rate or level.
>"macroeconomic instability led to an unsustainable boom"
>ECOLOGY
>upsetting the ecological balance by depleting >natural resources.
>"unsustainable fishing practices"
>not able to be upheld or defended.
>"the old idea was unsustainable"
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how about we kill all the africans and chinese?

just put botulism in the UN aid supplies

then we can take the resources for ourselves

t. satirist (not serious)
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Anyone want to rehost now that France has ragequit?
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>blob into rhein (Germany)
>why da frikkk does prussia hate me?!?!!!!!?!?!?!?
>go over infamy LIMIT (https://www.google.com/search?q=limit&oq=limit&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.774j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
>why are you containing me?!??!?!?!?!?
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>>163277250
Hi France/Ottomans
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>>163277391

Hillary already sold haiti fake meds
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Has anyone got the /gsg/ recommended movie list?
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>>163277104
>the world is already overpopulated
>no it isn't
>but look at all this shit I'm claiming that COULD happen when it's overpopulated
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What is the willy wagle meme? T. Newfag
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>>163277391
Getting rid of the UN should be on the list of things to do.
t. totally serious
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>>163277247
>Literally child-level reading comprehension
what you re doing is literally the definition of ad hominem.
also you didnt attack my position you attacked my understanding aka ad hominem please kys you fucking retard.
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>>163277431
t. alessia lyons
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ebin game
t. Arabia
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>>163277378
>ECOLOGY

NICE argument FAGGOT retard I can PUT words IN all CAPS too
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Anyone know a quick way to make an RGB shifted vaporwave image, preferably a quick upload converter? I've got an extremely dank meme in mind.
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>>163277378
I get it, you read but you don't understand it. It's called a functional illiteracy. Go look it up since you got your dictionary in hand to try to understand it.
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>>163277614
yeah it's called photoshop, or gimp if you're poor and retarded
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Lads why didn't Germany IRL just ally the UK, Austria, Russia, Italy and Netherlands? It would've been an easy win
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>>163277535
>>163277378
learn the fucking definition of overpopulation you pathetic simpleton.

>>163277295
its not going to happen m8, the bureaucratic mess in african countries makes it so nothing can be done correctly or in time. The only way to achieve what you want is by colonizing those shit holes again.
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>>163277569
Is English your first language?
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can we agree that super hugbox coalitions are perfectly justified versus infamy limit breakers? i am tired of them complaining about getting contained
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Poor poles.
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>>163277750
What game?
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>>163277750
t. alessia lyons
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>>163277771

That's essentially what the international zones are. France easily could in North Africa, if it wasn't taking in assloads of people which are expensive as fuck.
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>>163277750
t. 40 infamy rheinland blobber
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>>163277771
>tfw china is already blobbinb in africa IRL
We could have had it all
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>>163277783
>fight war against 3 GP's solo
>win
>only have 5 infamy spare

what, should i have just done nothing?
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Has anyone got the updated /gsg/ movie list?
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>>163277972
for a couple of years, yes, you're not in a hurry to unite anything or deal with a crisis like the rest of us.
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>>163277651
your fucking first argument was attacking my level of understanding not my position and instead of accepting your error and moving on you try and change the fucking definition of ad hominem while using more ad hominem.
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>>163278006
Because shitposting in privately owned public places is what all the kids are doing.
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>>163278006
eu4 in my case
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>>163278110
Look I'm sorry to say but your education system failed you. You are a functional illiterate. Maybe that means your education system is overpulayes, but it most likely means you are dumb.
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just captured this random nobody mercenary whilst fighting some filthy infidels, what should I do with him?
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>>163278240
You should give me the updated version of the /gsg/ movie list
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>>163278240
>no kids
end it now before it begins
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>>163272093
>Glock
Thats not a glock what he used you Grandi
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So, should it be a Turkisk Turk or any Altaic culture character?

>The meme option didn't get any votes
You surprised me, /gsg/.
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>>163274435
Hugo Boss designed the Nazi uniforms yout dumb communist cuck
>>
Alessia here recruiting allies for the next game

Requirements

>Must be able to play UK, Prussia, Russia or Austria
>Must be completely loyal to me and even release provinces/spherelings so i can conquer them

hmu
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>>163278427
Allahu akbar
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>>163278527
is the france autist literally going to kill himself?
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>>163278240
marry him to your daughter
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Is the Alternative flag pack guy around, ill need some Metal Gear flags done
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>>163278527
>>163278548
>>163278660
>>163278664
>>163278691
Can you please give me the /gsg/ movie list if you have it?
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>>163278746
No but i can recommend you some
Zulu for example
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>>163278746
i laughed at this one
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>>163278746
I have it but I won't give it to you because you are acting like a fag
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>>163278746
the list is the matrix now take the redpill cuck
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>>163278006
>all of my posts were talking about games
All that autism, wasted
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>>163277783
infamy is a stupid system in vic2
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>>163278826
>>163278829
>>163278834
>>163278849
>all these (you)s
>not one of them is the /gsg/ movie list
>>
>>163278746
>>163278985
it's in the archive

http://pastebin.com/stLT1bVc
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>>163278829
Why is it funny?
>>
>>163278746
Lawrence of Arabia, Zulu, Stalingrad(1993), Bill and Teds Excelent Adventure
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>>163279046
Thank you
>>
Who else here is a master of the Ottoman Empire and Prussia? The world coalitioned me and I still rose back to GP! I'm a great guy, everyone tells me. I tell you
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>>163279137
both are fags
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>>163278975
deal with it
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>>163279221
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EABc1f5_cw
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>>163278985
faggot stole my image I posted yesterday
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Seems like the only Turks are within this Zoroastrian duchy and they're being mobbed by rebels.
Will I start as the duke or one of the counts?
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Is there a Sorb nation is HPM?
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Would mixed race pops being represented in V2 be something we would want in a future expansion?

They were an important part of 19th century culture.
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>>163279273
>kill yourself
>*closes video*
o-okay
>>
>>163279480
V2 has no race
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>>163279589
It should do.
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>>163279221
Millenial Woes is a literal faggot.

Sargon probably is a literal one but is definitely a figurative faggot plus a literal nigger.
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>>163279480
Aren't there some in there already? Like Afro Latino or whatever the shit in the Caribbeans?
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rate
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>>163279634
Why?
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>>163271613
>start as uk
>fuck about and do crazy shit like unsphering everyone and ripping apart my alliances and dismantling my military and encouraging immigration to malta
>all said and done release malta

>be malta
>suck UK dick
>they snowball me into a secondary power
>turn nigerians into fuel and become gp
>call for unification

>mfw italian-arabic (maltese) is primary culture

this playthrough was so fucking annoying, i had to savescum for hours to get good infamy rolls
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>>163279712
Racism was a part of the 19th century.
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>>163279779
kys
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>>163279779
isn't ghost a K.u.K
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>>163279826
So was tactical battles, embargoes and gunboat diplomacy. All shit that should.come before that.
What racism would add to the game anyway?
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>>163272607
>55 used at CDN$ 0.01
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Trying to be a KUK again
Liberating Rhineland.
No france, solo fuckfest against germans.
Just slammed their army when the Prussians overcommitted
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>>163279956
>What racism would add to the game anyway?

You could simulate things like pic related
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>>163274263
treed
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>>163279816
Maltese aren't ar*b you dumb fuck their catholics
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>>163280157
That's simulated by more detailed battles, has shit all with racism
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>>163280063
Are you the Austria from MP?
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>>163280350
>purposely starving 300,000 africans
>not racist

umnmm excuse me can you stop erasing hte history of poc ( people of color) ??? ok thank u
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>>163280425

no
i just love austrias rgos.
>>
how can a general give an army +5 attack

generals just order troops they don't give them superpowers
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>can't make economical pacts with specific nations in Vic2
All I wanted was to be a GP and have access to grossgermaniums' coal
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>>163279454
Yes
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rate my european union blobb
t. junker
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>>163280728
uhhh... muh napoopan
>>
>>163280728
Tactics in a period where officer where super important.
>>
>>163280765
>economical pacts

ah yess... very diologicall..
>>
>>163280821
release my country from this shitty trash
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>>163279273
context?
>>
>>163280821
how are you not rank 1
>>
>>163279816
you should have posted an AAR of this, much better than the UBAGORBGERANIUMS we usually get
>>
>>163281040
Irelad, is that you?
>>
>>163280821
annex baguette and post pops.
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>>163281128
i would but as i said i savescum, you would all lose interest when i was taking hours to get a good cb in africa

ill do another aar as some other meme nation that can actually get away with not savescumming
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>>163281198
I'm eternal S-P
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>>163281105
I disbanded my military to reoganize it
>>163281208
I did the ethnic cleansing event when I annexed Rhone, so its mostly white
>>
Rheinland released
Silesia in crisis
Austrian army in tatters, being reformed. Might join the conflict.
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>>163280491
That's like saying Romans purposely enslaved thousands of Greeks because they were racists
It was part of war
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>>163281105
It's 2040, India has become a superpower.
>>
>>163281208

Chinks and US are OP.
>>
How fuck am I supposed to take over Ireland when it takes thousands of years to fabricate a cassus-belly? This game called Crusader Kinds 2
>>
>>163280821

>Not playing 1.07
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>>163280821
>europe 2040

is it a caliphate already?
if not this is a shitty simulation
>>
>>163282270
Remind me of the Great Irish Crusade where Catholic Irish counts and petty dukes attacked each other
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>>163282489
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>>163282598
Suggest me a better character and goal for learning the game
>>
>>163282652
King of France in 1066
Take modern day french borders
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>>163282652
If you have the Old Gods you could try someone in Sweden in the 867 start. It's easier to attack your neighbors without having to fabricate a claim. Or you could try Byzantium as there's plenty of neighboring muslims to attack.
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how i can change back vic2 to fullscreen? it just randomly changed to windowed
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>tfw continuing mp game by myself

It's fun

Also what the fuck was the Frenchfag Alessia talking about? France immediately skyrocketed to 4th GP even with all those released provinces he did. They're also like the 3rd best in army.
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>>163280821
>Internet2
>>
how GROB can a germanium get?
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>>163283093
This + you win the resulting war with Asia.
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>>163283093
VERY groB
(warning do not open)
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>>163283285
Sieg mein Kaiser!
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Will we teach all the little orbitals how to be german? (Answer is yes)
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>>163282978
show europe
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>>163283443
Prussia betrayed Austria and is going for the Brothers'War to assert hegemony.
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>>163280821
>not even number 1

Holy shit BTFO by Amerifats and China
>>
>tfw now I want to play MP again

While I'm playing I want to blow my brains out from boredom

While I'm not playing I want to play
>>
>3 years of 100% military spending
>no regiment growth
>>
>>163283786
who were you
>>
>>163283849
Ah, me? Nobody, lad.
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>>163283950
ok cool but what's your nickname
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>>163284036
The host, lad.
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Is HoI4 still trash?
>>
>>163283950
>>163284103
If you host again I won't bully you.
>>
>>163284215
t. GM

never trust
>>
Just bought ck 2
Have never played any grand strategy games before
what do?
>>
>>163284103
hehe... sorry kid but ya dont have what it takes to play turkiums with the big boys
>>
>>163284365
assassinate karling
>>
>>163283845

Anyone have ideas here?
>>
>>163284365
uninstall.exe
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>>163284430
Have you considered Encouraging Soldiers
>>
>>163284430
Encourage soldiers, Make sure administration is at 100%, Encouraging soldiers doesn't go past 5% of a provinces population.
>>
>>163284398
who is karling?
and how do I assasinate people?

>>163284568
is it really that bad?
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>tfw to unimaginative too fully enjoy CK2
>>
Victoria II - HPM

I.P: 109.153.64.229

Checksum: (PSGK)

Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/anjg7ctwsbbizzc/HPM%203.6.1.7z
>>
>>163282948
Late but try alt + enter
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>>163284620
>>163284570

That doesn't explain why Bohemia, a province of almost a million only has 4160 soldiers. I watched it for a year, and it stayed stagnant at that number. Soldiers were getting luxury needs, but not increasing. It's not like admin eff is bad there either, its at 50%. Is serfdom really making it impossible to grow my soldier pops?
>>
>>163275464
I think russians say it like that
>>
>want to play hoi4
>game fucking sucks

FUCK
>>
>>163284809
worked without mods but with hpm doesn't. thanks anyway
>>
>>163279443
>vanilla and no dlcs
holy fuck kek urself
>>
>>163272607
>Nov 23 2001
I bet that sold well
>>
>>163285650
>I bet that sold well
What did he mean by this?
>>
>>163284729
How do I get this checksum? I tried deleting my map folder, but had no success
>>
>>163285802
Download HPM, restart until you get it.
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Lads, what's the end goal here?
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>>163286490
Join the Empire.
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>>163286490
Complete
Coastal
Domination
>>
>>163286490
Rape nordic women.
>>
>>163286490
Conquer and rape Aldmeris.
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>>163286490
>map is about 70% water

Why? That'd be like including America in vanilla with a proportional ocean
>>
>>163286490
Do Gortwog's project, convert the Orcs back to the Cult of Trinimac.
Also, you're going to have to need to claim a lot of mountain regions for that sweet high-altitude life.

>>163286757
>aldmeris
No such thing.

>>163286923
Because the devs are morons that thinks people actually care about their Akaviri fanfiction.
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>>163287087
>people actually care about their Akaviri fanfiction.

I care about Akavir.One of my favorite books from Morrowind is about the imperial invasion of it.
Now that would be a great grand strategy.
>>
>>163287490
It would, and Disaster at Ionith is a really cool book, I just think it's a waste of time from the mod devs to spend time on a pretty boring version of Akavir instead of making Tamriel better and more filled with content. I'd rather have one thing done really well instead of two things done worse.
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>Austria peacefully petitions for annexation
>this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lsJmwNO40
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>>163287490
>Spent decades preparing invasion
>Blob into Dunmer clay just to get CB on Akavir
>Get to Akavair
>Bullshit magicks
>Random events
>Lose half your army for no apparent reason
>>
It's Rhodesia from last mp game.
Mp when?
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>>163271820
for 2 seconds
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Epic La Platiums. Castile just needs to stop going to wars and they can form Spain. Blobhemia is blobbing again, ruining a nice Baltic Lithuania
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>>163287857
>2500
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>>163287768
German shark>german square
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Patiently awaiting GR's host.
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>>163288063
>cheating
>>
>>163286490
end your race you disgusting pig child
>>
we need more niggers in the MP, come in and get railed
>>
>>163287768
How is your literacy not 40%?
>>
>>163288137

>GR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GR

If that ragequitting, autistic janitor could fade into irrelevancy, that would be great.
>>
>>163288342
Give IP then.
>>
>>163288137
ok

73.20.197.88
PSGK
Vic 2 HPM
>>
>>163288218
>clever use of game mechanics
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I have been anticipating this revolution for years. From the look of it, my overall population will have dropped by a few hundred thousand by the time this is over.
>>
>>163288424

>clever
You used a broken event, to mass spam prestige to get into first position.
No wonder there was shilling going on for 1.07 version :^)
>>
>>163288483
>Italy
>>
>>163288557
I secured Poland's position as rank 1 by any meanss necessary, any good leader would have done the same
>>
so I just beat the USSR in hoi 4, is there no way to make like 3 puppet buffer states with everything east of the urals?

send help
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This is Romanian Africa.
Say something nice about it.
>>
>>163289075
Try to make it shaped more like Romania.

That would be cute.
>>
>>163288346
What do you mean? North German pops start at around 70% literacy and South German pops around 60% in 1836.
>>
>>163289075
I mean, at least with Romanians going there at least they're out of Europe.
>>
>>163289259
Must've been since I formed uberGrobGermaniums with a bunch of shitskins in it instead of just the purest of the Aryans.
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>>163289075
>Swedish Congo
OK for real how likely would it have been for any country other than Belgium to be awarded the Congo?
>>
>>163289075
Colonize Chad and release it as a puppet
>>
>>163289462
Thanks for pointing that out, not him but I ALSO got Swedish Congo and thought.

I guess HPM knows it's the true Swedish homeland.
>>
>>163271820
FUCK YOU
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Ok lads, who does the Banat belong to?
The whole Balkan region is under German hegemony
>Romania
>Yugoslavia
or
>an independent Republic led by Germans
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test
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What's a good nation choice a comfy game but isn't too boring (i.e., there's still room for a bit of blobbing)? I'm used to going Maximum Groß no matter what I pick but I'd like to actually reach 1936 for once

>>163290593
Based Mosley (pbuh)
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Hey guys, playing CK2 right now removing filthy muslims from Spain, but I seem to have a bug where epidemics won't dissappear from specific counties in my empire, what is going on?
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AI Japan formed last minute! Not sure how as I didn't see them being close but okay. Now we have Great Britain, Russia, Spain, Italy, Scandinavia, and Japan all forming. Another year and then back to more fixes
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>>163291139
Who are you playing?
Good to see some EU3 again desu
>>
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fug
>>
>>163291139
What is the Purple Prairies?
>>
>>163291569
Close your borders lad don't let USA become groBBer
>>
>>163291395
Observation game as Hawaii. Running tests to hopefully make the AI less retarded along with some other fixes. I write down issues I find as the game progresses and then see what I can do to fix them. I still seem to have quite a bit of work to do but it seems better already. Never had so many nations form in one game before.

>>163291570
Vinland, a MiscMod nation. I may either remove it or just change where it appears. I believe that was all Dutch land that it formed from. France owns Zeeland so Holland couldn't take it and form the Netherlands or otherwise they would have
>>
>>163291569
>form genocidal totalitarian regime
>don't build wall to prevent people from leaving

This one's on you mate
>>
>>163291139
Maybe Fujiwara had the other factions in a PU and inherited or something.
That's the most common way I've seen Japan form in EU3 I think.

Too bad Vaginacar didn't make it to forming Hindustan.
>>
>>163291139
Why does EU3 have such disgusting blobs?
>>
>>163291809
because square memel
>>
>>163284621
No, it's great. uninstall.exe is just a meme
>>
>>163291796
I had checked them a few years earlier and they didn't have any PUs. That tiny green in OPM on the east coast of India is Hindustan lol. Idk how that happened, I'll have to look into it.

>>163291809
Bad AI that's difficult if not impossible to fix with modifiers. Russia, Africa and Bohemia are always bad it seems. This is one of the better looking Europes I've gotten though
>>
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r8 my African colonies
>>
>>163292210
>cockblocked Egypt coast
0/10
>Scottish Congo
>Italian Hedjaz
10/10
>>
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Europe on the last day. Too bad it takes like 12 hours to simulate a game on max speed.

Excuse the crop, it's not fullscreened
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POST YFW SOMEONE POSTS A VICKY 2 SCREENSHOT ON HERE AND IT'S NOT HPM, NAPOLEON'S LEGACY, OR NWO 1.06/1.07
>>
>>163292483
If it weren't so retarded it would be pretty cool
>>
>>163292210
>he conquered Liberia
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>posting a screenshot to official forums
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How do I get this core? I have no retake core CB against Bulgaria and I cannot add any CBs against them as they are a subject but at the same time I cannot add a CB for it against their Turkish overlods.
>>
>>163292854
>hammer and s*ckle is still visible
delete this right now my whole family was starved to death in the gulags 6 times
>>
>>163292210
>scottish congo
>>
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Italy's whole navy in the middle of the Pacific lol. the AI really needs to get naval attrition

>>163292713
I agree
>>
>>163292483
If you cleaned it up a little bit this could make the start of a fun game of Victoria.

Make Italy's territories contiguous, put Austria/Aquileia/Croatia/Hungary back together into Austria or A-H or something, remove the Bohemiblob from the baltics, give Novgorod to Russia, and fix Britain.
>>
>>163292483
>>163293397
Was the perfect Switzerland a fluke or is that at all a likely scenario in EUIII?
>>
Is there any MP going on?
>>
>>163293397
>Implying the AI isn't too stupide to deal with attrition
I'm surprised paradox actually let them get it on land.
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you get 20 AE for taking one of these tiny provinces. it decays at 2 a year and the game lasts ~400 years. If you wanted to expand without bringing a coalition on yourself you could only take ~80 provinces over the course of the game or just the land in greece.
this shit mod is so broken
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>>163293559
I've never played that mod, but in vanilla EU3 Switzerland starts with the right borders and usually doesn't conquer anything. Kind of a boring country but they do make a good ally if you are a country that borders them, since they have a good military but never draw you into stupid wars.
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>>163292508

>tfw DoD hasnt been converted to HPM so it will never be acceptable

;w;
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>>163290150
Yugoslavia

captcha: Tito's pizzeria
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>>163293559
Switzerland rarely does much but they did blob a little into Savoy earlier in the game but Milan retook it before forming Italy

>>163293619
I know they're too stupid but even in the 1400s I hate seeing whoever is at war with Norway invade Iceland or something. They go way past their colonial range for anything and it can get annoying
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>>163293641
I mean, there would be a Greek coalition against anyone that tried to unify Greece before the war with the Persians.
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>>163293796
I think PDM is OK and an acceptable change of pace for an alt his mod like DoD
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>>163293641
If you really hate it so much then change it.
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>>163293796
>Elbian Confederation
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>>163292483
>Ukraine
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>>163293962
German is split into 3 cultures in the mod and is really fucking cucked at the start by Bohemiablob and Burgundy
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>>163293962
there's 3 German cultures, Elbian, Danubian and Rhenish i think
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Here comes the slavic rape train crashing down upon Germany.
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where is HPM
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>>163294541
in the OP
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Mexiko ist Weiß
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>>163294631
as in the modmaker, he needs to fix something
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>>163294541
who?
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>>163294541
He died in Aleppo.
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>>163294660
Here lad >>163271627
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holy fuck they fixed the peace conference. holy fuck i just annexed all of britain france netherlands poland and belgium and i didnt have to fight the fucking indians or south africans.
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>>163294541
On a counterespionage mission in Turkey
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>>163293909
you dont need to attempt to unify greece to get a coalition. 4 fucking provinces is enough to get every one of your neighbors to rape you unless you pace yourself
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>>163294541
He killed a Russian ambassador in Turkey and got shot, some say He didn't make it out alive. Sad!
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>>163293909
it's way after the persians. 487 years after the founding of rome
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Who's up for HPM NWO1.07 Napoopan EU4 CK2 or HOI3
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What does nationalise the industry do?
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>>163293641
Mod?
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>>163295425
Imperium Univeralis
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>>163295360
Gives you control of foreign invested factories and gives them a free make puppet cb on you
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>>163293641
It's realistic, don't cheat.
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>>163293641

What mod is this??

pls respond
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I freed Bulgaria in my last war so that I could take my core in Silistria back in the next one. The truce is about to end but given that I have no infamy I want to add another wargoal. Should I annex them entirely or puppet instead?
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>>163295589
>>163295994
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pls we need a mod where the French Revolution doesn't happen, or happens somewhere else
>>>/his/2118860
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>>163294185
>AI just autistically occupies things and then gets wiped out by huge Russian armies

Also

>Romania
>10 million people

How and why?

>>163294656
Mennonites
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>>163297067
See >>163289075
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What is the oldest Paradox title worth playing?
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So I just got (pirated) Crusader Kings II and all the DLC. What should I (a total newbie to /gsg/ in general) have to know before I start? Any tips?
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>>163297761
eu3
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>>163297838
Spend 8 hours reading the wiki
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>>163297761
eu2
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>>163297918
I just want to fuck my cousins and make an inbred family that would make the Habsburgs jealous dude.
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>>163297838
play on ireland. it will be long and boring but it will teach you the basics
then do a byzantine game to learn how to manage vassals and easy blobbing with holy wars
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Is it possible to make France and Germany allies in HPM?
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>>163297761
eu
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How to get fascists in power? I've got revanchism and a lot of jingoism so people are becoming fascist but I'm not sure where to go from here. Can I pass political reforms and get them elected or do I have to instead drive up their militancy and make them rebel?
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How does one progress after becoming a minor ducal vassal?

Started as the Count of Auvergne (sp?) in 769 now hold 5 territories, the duchy of Auvergne and I'm nearly ready to form the neighbouring one and conquer that final county.

West Francia blobbed like nuts so I'm very much a small fish in a big pond - how do I progress aside from many years of fabrication and mercenaries?
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>>163298891
Both works.
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Thanks for doing the heavy lifting, Seljuk. Zoroastrian for now and while I still aim to unite Christendom under the Iconoclast banner, I'm wondering if I should leave a remnant of the fires in the east.

Of course the AI fucked up Suomi once I changed player.

>>163298027
Zoroastrians have incest bonuses.
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>>163298891
If youre playing HPM with a constitutional monarchy, just put the party in power and eventually they'll pull a facist coup
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>>163298891
>I've got revanchism
What country are you playing?
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>accidentally gave one of my only two pieces of land to my one year old son

How do I fix this?
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>>163299401
Romania. I've held off taking my cores on Austria and Russia until I get fascists.

>>163299274
I tried that but it said I could not place their party in power. Though I might have been a semi constitutional monarchy at that point.
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>>163299585
you could use NFs to make people vote for them, and if they have enough militancy and they win 2 or 3 times there will be a peaceful coup
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>>163299585
post liquor factories
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>>163299585
Damn, now I'll have to wait a while before playing Romania.

What are some other good rare formable nations?
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>>163299745
That seems to be working so far.
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>>163299979
Andine Federation. It's basically GroßBoliviums.
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>>163299996
Soon brother
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>>163299979
I found Romania to be shit to form because I didn't even get to do it. I was shitposting on my other montitor running through the early game at max speed as Wallachia and when I turned back to the game out of nowehere I had Moldavia and was Romania.
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>>163297761
Stellaris
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>>163298663
>HPM
stopped reading there
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>>163299551
die
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This last war was easy af. I just sat my troops inside the giant lvl 4 wall along my entire border with France and just let the French throw all of their soldiers at me. I got several Spanish colonies and dismantled France as a result of this war.
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>>163298663
>?
stopped reading there
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Wie groß soll Mittelafrika sein?
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>>163300118
CODY
O
D
Y
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fug this retarded ai
I don't want to take my cores until fascism is entrenched but they keep declaring war on me.
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>>163300571
>no Namibia
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>this africa
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>>163293607
ae remember when they btfo austria as prussia even though they had france ahhhhhh
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>>163300359
>there
Stopped reading there
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>>163300127

Yep, game is pretty shit as the romania minors.
You literally wait until the crimean war to auto-form yourself into Romania. If russia loses, you get the bessarabia port but are an ottoman vassal still but can break free in a war. Or you get released but only inherit moldavia+Wallachia. Romania will run into a lack of coal for their industry through. They got two provinces, and thats it for their coalies.
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>>163300571
>Oranje
>>163300883
>Oranje
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>>163293796
Isn't that the MP game from like, 3 days ago?

i recognize the DM gibraltar
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Hello a song told me to post my ebin germanys here :-DDDD
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k cunts should i declare war on the portugese or the soviet union?
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>>163278691
Are you making a Outer Heaven (or Zanzibar Land) mod?
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>>163301164
in what game
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>>163300921
uhhhhhh?
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How did Germany get the colonial range to get shit in Papua New Guinea and Micronesia
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>>163301297
hoi4
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Anybody here ever try this game: http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=74374&sid=e5954a42c48dae03b80de9a86ff08a29 ?

Any good?
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>>163301056
yes
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>>163301391
>.ru
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>>163301371
no reason not to invade both
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>>163301492
post rare johans
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>>163301757
>daniel's buldge
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>>163301353
no colonial range irl, first come first serve
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What a beautiful electorate vote.
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>>163302178
looking through the files it looks like you need an average militancy of 3 for the coup to fire, not sure though
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>>163302178
I'm sure your elections are 100% free of manipulation and bias :^)
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>>163302112
Then why is Colonial Range even in Vic2? What does it actually represent?
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>>163302387
Ah that's a shame. My militancy is pretty low and grows rather slowly. The majority of my population are Africans but they seem quite happy with me as their overlord.
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>>163302407
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>>163302549
you could start petty wars with uncivs (if there are any) and lose on purpose, I think that gives militancy
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When you select the 'extermination' event, will you be given an option of who to shoah?
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>>163300369
Won't my heir also lack the title?
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>>163302531
That's a good question.
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Ok, I've hit the 'extermination' event, but nothing is happening...
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Hosting Vicky2 HPM

68.226.105.20

PSGK
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>>163302569
context?
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>>163288483
Maybe you could just let them win?

>>163293796
>>163293945
It's fine for an alt-hist mod anyways. And it's just some mechanics that are from PDM. Most of the game is it's own thing.

Why do you care if it's "acceptable"? You should care, are you having fun? Is it activating your almonds?

>>163293962
As the others explained, it's Germans. Basically, North Germans are called Elbians in that world, and South Germans are Danubians. It goes back to how the continent's history evolved, and if I remember reading correctly, it's an indicator to the fact that cultural differences are a bit more strong than they are in vanilla history. Hence why one needs to first generally form one of those countries before they can really form Germany itself.

The Elbian Confederation is a sort of common occurrence. Basically, Bohemia has been one of the great powers and the HRE for centuries, and they start the game still with claims. They have about ten years to be able to get ALL the minors and stuff sphered. But eventually, the German Council begins (their Revolutions of 1848) and usually the Danubians will form the Danubian Federation. Because the Elbian revolutionaries will never accept full Bohemian domination, one of the choices available to the Czechs is they can compromise, and form a dual Czech/Elbian state, though it's still slightly unstable since it's Catholic nature is very important to the state, it's at least better than some other fates.
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>>163302821
you're given the choice between religious minorities and cultural minorities, and further weather you would like to kill them in the mainland or in the colonies or both

>>163303273
Do you have the infamy modifier? for a while after firing the event nothing happens, then you get the choices
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r8
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>>163303328
Si.
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>>163303420
>too lazy to remove liquoriums white border
3/10, 6.3/10 if you fix that
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>>163303420
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>>163303328
Not sure if this is accurate, but apparently during the Italian elections under Mussolini voters were given a ballot simply saying yes (SI) or no, also the ballots made it obvious which choice you made
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>>163302387
So do you know how the coup happens? I just had my second election that the fascists won and they secured power on their own without needing a coalition. My avearge was militancy 3.3 but things just carried on as normal.
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>>163303317
I can't for maybe 20 mins so I'll join when the first crash happens, post in thread
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I thought france was gonna rape me but they sent one 20 stack against my 50 stack with jungle defensive modifiers
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>>163303563
better?
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>>163303407
>you're given the choice between religious minorities and cultural minorities
You can't choose specific ones? And I assume "minorities" are unaccepted cultures?
Also, is there a way to kill people of a certain ideology?
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>>163303792
>>163303792
If you convincingly shop away the body I'll give you a solid 8/10
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>>163303719
>this will give us access to the tech of our sphere leader
wat? is that a thing?
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>Banat Republic not an autonomous member of the Großgermania Reich
>not forming Germany as Banat
>having your capital be Berlin
Groß
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>>163285484
>no dlcs
What are all those icons on the left?
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>>163303618
Not sure tbf. If I'm looking at the correct event/file (event 60030 in CleanUp.txt) it looks like it has a base mean time to happen of 12 months at 3 militancy that decreases as you have more militancy
Pic related is the event

>>163303934
no, I believe so, no
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>>163303317

G-guess no one wants to play MP
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>>163304146
i would join but i really need a shower
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>>163304065
fuck you
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>>163304070
>no, I believe so, no
Aww :(
I haven't tried genociding yet, but I was hoping you could do that. I guess selecting specific minorities could get complicated, but HPM should at least add killing by ideology.
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Well that was a fun Great War that lasted less than a year. Is there any chance some of those capitulation bux are coming my way or does NGF get them all?

>>163304070
Thanks anon. I guess I'll just wait it out and hope for the best.
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>>163304260
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>>163304026
No, I got the generic one slot in every tech tree westernize result. Unless its AI only..
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>>163304501
if it's any consolation, I think one of the late-game communist/fascist decisions genocides by ideology
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>>163303386
I think the biggest problem I have with the mod is that he has just changed too many things, to the point where it looks flat out retarded. Chinese Australia and North America? The clusterfuck that is South America Sorry I mean Ameriga :DDD? Scandinavia is cool, but they are so solidified as a world power that I don't feel any incentive to play them, unlike vanilla where you get a sense of satisfaction from making something out of Scandinavia's shitty number of POPs. The balance of power is pretty bad and because I don't know the history very well or know the "canon" outcomes I don't know what to expect, e.g., will I get cores on all of Ukraine+Belarus as Russia or will I have to work hard to blob myself? I played as Bohemia a couple years in, managed to unite the HRE, but it was really fucking confusing because I didn't know what I should do to get the best outcome, so I had to use a ton of saves/reloads to figure it all out.

PDM isn't bad but adding more weird mechanics on top of something already too strange really doesn't work in the mod's favour. Some .txt s to go along with the mod to explain the story more in depth and to work as a 'walkthrough' so you would know what to expect out of certain event chains would really go a long way to improve the experience. Also, genocide should really be added.
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The shoah has begun. I decided to kill off the cultural minorities across the entire nation. How long will this process take,and will there be only Germans once I'm done?
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>>163302918
please respond
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>>163305036
if you already got the decision for choosing who you kill than it's already done. if you just took the decision maybe a year, not long after you lose the concentration camps modifier
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>>163304986
One more thing is I really felt bad for the Germs in that mod. While Czechs had 65% or something literacy Bohemian Germans had ~15%. Like what the hell did they go through to be that illiterate?
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Oh shit, how do I stop my pops from emigrating? Apparently they don't like the whole genocide thing.
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>>163305968
close borders
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>>163306112
I can't with a fascist government. The policy needs to be Residency, but the NSDAP has limited citizenship
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>>163306251
>the NSDAP has limited citizenship
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>>163300883
Imagine how great the Scottish Congo would have been
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Can anyone please write me a semi realistic decision to genocide the incas in DoD? beornia's/the holy britannian empire's tags are BEO and HBE, the pops i want to kill are Quechua and Aimara
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>gee lets try Japan in DoD
>Koreans are westernized
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>>163301156
>Ayutthaya
>Japan formed
>Russian Indochina
>Austro-Byzantium and Holy Roman Germania
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>>163306576
oh also the Guarani
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>>163301353
Everyone has much longer colonial range in the 20th century
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>>163306578
Truly a divergence of darkness.
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>>163304070
>notepad

nigga get notepad++ with pdox syntax
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Gonna start a Germany HoI4 game.

Give me goals?

I already plan on going full air domination mode. Dumping loads of resources into lots of planes and shit.

Anything else I should do?
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>>163306834
>pdox syntax
Is that a thing?
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>>163280821
the new nwo mod is a trash
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>>163306885
migrate to argentina
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Where is Alex's genocide event, i need to look at it
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>>163306885
Switch to a democracy and join the Allies to crush the Soviets.
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>>163280821
What did you do to get Germany's territories from Pooland? And for what purpose, aren't they filled with P*les now?
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>>163307601
you can find the decision in Political.txt and the events in PoliticalEvents.txt
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r8 my borders :DDDD
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Already the chinese imperialist kneel at the might of our rice farmers
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>>163307801
thanks a lot
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Someone upload the kaiserreich mod for hoi4 you fucking faggots
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>>163307925
nvm they didn't give me shit
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>>163307925
Can't you take a whole state
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>>163308156
http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
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>>163308334
but..
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>>163308308
hahahaha
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>>163308308
>>163308508
made me lol
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>>163308569
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>>163307817
even better borders :DD
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>>163308853
>>
Make sure it stays a local hit at best or Such a voice must be heard in all of X?
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What the fuck happened here?
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>>163309136
LET THE WORLD HEAR IT
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>>163308929
Did Napoopanmod fuck with the POPs? Show culture mapmode
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>>163309243
Presume he won a holy war because it's an easy starting point for Lombard. Which was followed up by being kicked out by the Arabian Empire.
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>>163309342
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>>163309243
>Portuguese
gas yourself
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>>163309408
Not as bad as I was expecting but
>Swiss "culture"
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>>163309654
its shit anyways
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http://poal.me/rk7ems
http://poal.me/rk7ems
http://poal.me/rk7ems
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>this is what reddit actually believes
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>>163310424
>>163310437
Ukrainian mind
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I guess Vic2 combat and diplomacy are incredibly complex now?
>>163310582
no u
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>>163310424
>>163310437
What's wrong with Ukrainians?
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>>163310545
>I want to see a Vicky 3 even if it is simplified and full of mana. If I don't like it, I'll keep playing Vicky 2.
Based redditor dropping the truthbombs
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>>163310730
Nothing, they're based
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did I come at the wrong time?
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There is no mod but HPM. Alex is the modder of HPM.
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>>163304986
The Chinese states are basically if the Emperor had kept the Treasure fleets going. They got stopped much later, and were forbidden from coming back. Either way, they're both very weak, and have more in common with their neighbors culturally than with their kin back in China.

As for the South American mess, why are you implying that? If anything, it's much less a mess than OTL. And I guess SA is the way it is is because it had more intense colonization efforts, and more competitive ones. Plus, bear in mind that the Spainish/Portuguese Papal sanction never really happened the same, and even the nature of Spain itself is very different. Amazonie is the Dual Monarchy colony in Ameriga, more precisely mostly from the French. The NA colony, by contrast, was settled more by English/Welsh/Anglois.

Obviously Protestant Burgundy wouldn't have given a shit as to Papal sanctions.

Scandinavia actually is usually intended to decline. It takes player intervention for them to usually still last a GP by the end. That said, I recall discussion about expanding paths for Scandinavia to do. Right now, they can accept the Elbians (being a traditional patron and champion of them, especially them also being a Protestant power).

Russia usually forms by itself, so just take a look next time at their cores. I believe they do get most of Ukraine. That said, it's tenuous, especially since the Ukrainians are under the PLC this time around.

As for events like the HRE unification, it's WAD that sometimes you won't always get everything. There's an element of randomness.

There already are decisions to let you see the lore for your nation. The Paradox forum has the lore/timeline thread.

>>163305496
You're supposed to feel bad for the Germans. They've been really badly shit on over the centuries. The Reformation was even more devastating, and they had one of the most destructive events ever, the The Great German Wars (sort of the DVG Napoleonic War, but not exactly).
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>>163311105
The funposting is reaching a point where we may not be able to contain it.
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>>163311369
>>>/r/eu4
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How do I pronounce this?
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>>163311771
Dawunforthnaburg
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>>163311771
I'll tell you if you tell me what mod that is
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>>163311861
Napoopan
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>>163311931
>literally just KR a century earlier
Lazy coding. Sad.
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>>163310424
I don't know who you are but you deserve a (You) anon
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>>163311931
What's that green blob in Germoney? GroBRhineland?
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>>163312054
Yup

No clue how they work, no matter how many german states I sphere they almost always become a satellite of Austria
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>>163311771
https://pl.forvo.com/word/dyneburg/
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>>163311369
Are you the mod maker?
>There already are decisions to let you see the lore for your nation.
There's no reason not to have a .txt with the mod explaining ALL the lore so you can understand the entire world as opposed to just your own nation, and an overview on the various event chains so you aren't left floundering in the dark and not knowing about all of the neat things that happen later on that might make you want to play a nation you otherwise wouldn't

>The Paradox forum has the lore/timeline thread.
That doesn't help the pedophiles though.

>There's an element of randomness.
Yuck

>>163312042
thx lad
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>>163311369
One problem I have with the mod is the military access mechanic, it lets me as Bohemia manage to beat both Scandinavia and Burgundy at the same time by just forcing Burgundy to come in from sea with small armies
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>>163311369

Yeah all china had to do was keep island hopping and building bases
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What are the good fap mods for ck2? Dark World is a huge disappointment.
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>>163313670
I don't think there are any others, at least not ones that are up to date.
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>>163313670
there was one that gave you some trait called The Voice or something, it made you OP and you could rape everyone. Forgot what it was called though
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ebin teutoniums soon laddos :DDD
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>>163313780
>having that many fucking clerks
wew
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>>163312268
No I'm not. Just lurk and follow discussion on the forums, have been for years now.

>That doesn't help the pedophiles though.
Fair enough. Well maybe I or another poster here will ask to include it as a text file.

>Yuck
Well the idea is basically that no vital decisions like that are ever really sure or not sure to happen. I mean no one complains that it's very very hard in Kaiserreich for the remnant AH Empire to even keep the status quo, let alone federalize. It's chance. If it's for big, nation changing events, I don't see what the problem is. It's not even an always thing. And from what I've played, there's usually an option to force your way if things don't go as planned. So in the case of making the Amerigan Federation, you can press the Neo Anglians into joining, and while you can't know for sure what they pick, you can declare war on them anyways and annex them in one fell swoop if they refuse.
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When I'm reforming to a merchant republic, one 8 year old vassal won't upgrade initially, but then goes feudal a week later. How can I make him go merchant republic like all my other vassals?
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>>163313780
how the fuck are your clerks so well off
tell me
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Well I think it's safe to say that China's been successfully subverted. East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere soon
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>>163313780
Sephardim are white and based
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>>163313780
why?
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I didn't even console command this.

What do, lads? Was just going to play a meme game (hence why I've got 4 - 5k in gold, piety, and prestige), but do I now have more duties than just getting a strong Nord to dick my snek?
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>>163315220
Aelfinn fucking shits. Does the Dragonborn that give those stupid stat boosts, or was that all you?

As Dragonborn you need to kill some elves at the very least.
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>>163311771
dehquartnaburg
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>>163315859
Like I said, meme game. I loaded myself up on some negative traits, shat out to 30 per stat, then console commanded them off.

I was just going to meme around. Now things got serious. I'll definitely start removing some knife ears.
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>>163316008
>then CHIM them off.
Show Vivec who the real boss is and team up with Dagoth Ur if possible.
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Haha my friends
What is the best strategy in /gsg/s when you are loosing a war
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>>163316403
Cheat.
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>>163316403
concession
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>>163316403
restart
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>>163316249
Don't even know if Five Courts would let me do that. Although I don't know what this is about the "Ideal Masters" mechanic. I'll just have to wait to see.

In the meantime, I have to conquer some islands first to spread snek cloaca to Atmorans and Skaal.
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>>163316471
trob
>>163316474
is it really
>>163316564
>restarting a game in 1896
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haven't been here in like 5 months what's new lads
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>>163316675
HPM is a Syrian hero.
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>>163306885
So I joined the Allies and we're at war with Japan. I have frosty relations with the Ruskis too. I might delcare war on them so we have a huge war.

Or maybe we polish off Japan first. But idk how I'd even fight Japan. I did research carrier tech so I could send huge fleets to the pacific, that could be neat.
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what are the "essential" EU4 DLCs that isn't uninstall.exe?
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>>163302093
OwO what's this?
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>>163317523
uninstall.bat
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>>163303592
Correcto

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_general_election,_1934
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I can't decide between Karelia and Finnland.
I'd really like to paint Africa that nice Finnish white colour but Karelia's flags are GOAT.
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What's the best starting point for a newbie to CK2? I'm willing to invest significant autism, but I've only ever played EU4 before this.
I have all the major DLC, and preferably wanna start as early as possible
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>>163317853
kek
>>163317970
>blobbing into Africa as Finland or Karelia
wew
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>>163318341
Ireland, business focus, amass money, fabricate claim, hire mercs, repeat ad infinitum
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>>163318341
>as early as possible
Norse vikings, raid everyone.
>Non-meme data
See >>163318396
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>>163318360
You're right, I should blob in East Asia instead :^)
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>>163271613
>1924 – Adolf Hitler is released from Landsberg Prison
#justiceatlast
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So, In Kaiserreich, I managed to avoid the Civil War then I conquered the communist bastards to the south, what now?
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>>163319048
Create the United States of North America
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>>163319048
This.
>>163319158
>>
k lads what now i have conquered. UK,FRANCE,PORTUGAL,NETHERLANDS,BELGIUM,DENMARK,SOVIET UNION,POLAND,USA,AUSTRALIA,BRITISH RAJ,SOUTH AFRICA,SWITZERLAND,MONGOLIA,SOME OTHER SHIT ASIAN STATES, BULGARIA,TURKEY,ROMANIA,LITHUANIA. NOW WHAT TO DO.
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>>163319236
oh shit i forgot i also conequered canada
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Hey lads would anyone be up for an mp of Hoi 4 Kaosserreich playing as the Dominions? ( i call india)
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>>163319048
>>163309654
>>163309654
>>163309654
Help a brother out
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>>163319625
http://hearts-of-iron-4.smods.ru/
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Are Paradox - those devious kikes - going to learn anything from the "success" of HoI4 and Stellaris or are they going to carry on pumping out casualised trash for /r/paradoxplaza?
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>>163319236
>>163319371
What the fuck you talking about?
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>>163320016
pic related
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>>163320324
>>163319371
>>163319236
uninstall.exe then go play DH or HOI3
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Time to destroy Capitalism lads
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So, Ignore Seatlel and just blast through the Northwest right? Canada should capitulate fast
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>>163320324

>>163320392
would you like the screenshot of my DH GROB GERMANIUM?
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>>163320324
See >>163320324
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>>163319989
They didn't even learn from hoi3's ai and managed to create something even more inept, so probably not
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>>163320485
See >>163320485
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>>163320503
1. HoI3 was GOAT.
2. HoI4 is cancer.
3. Fucking political mana is the worst aspext of HoI4, not the AI.
4. >>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>163320719
autism
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Oh shit, do I? I already accepted the commune of france's offer
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Is anyone doing viggy mp
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>>163320976
Fuck Albion
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>>163320819
FUCK off you fucking reddit tier memer, you don't fucking understand our style of humour at all and what's worse is rather than put the tiniest bit off effort in to understand and learn to enjoy our style of humour you just spout the same fucking crap you would on /r/paradoxplaza for ebin upboats xDxD Why the fuck haven't you fucking killed yourself with your shitty fucking "jokes"? I can fucking smell the autism on you, your refusal to adapt to a different social situation. You're the sort of guy who would tell children's jokes to adults or vice versa and then be banned from the children's hospital for the privilege. Take your fucking shitty memes back where they belong because no one but you in this thread finds them funny. You're probably so new you don't even know how but check the number of unique IPs in this thread then subtract one. That is how many people you just pissed off with your reddit tier "humour". There's a reason we fucking despise YOUR site and we choose not to go there, do not bring your fucking disease here with you, if you want to lurk that's fine but don't contribute until you have had fucking chemotherapy for all that cancer you just gave all of us with your irrelevant fucking shitposting. No fucking gold, no fucking upvoted, just a big fat fucking failed abortion sat in this thread thinking he will ever have anyone care about him in the slightest. Go straight fucking back to /r/paradoxplaza where you can upboated and censor each other and if you ever think about coming back remember how much of a stain on the human race you are.
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>>163320976
Absolutely eternal
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>>163321434
Is the race war now real? I might have to start watching anime if it is.
t. /Apol/
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Hey can anyone tell me what ports I need to forward for vic2 mp
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>>163320976
>accepting a treaty with any communist
You fucking traitor, you don't deserve to wear that flag.

MacArthur would be fucking livid.
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>>163320614
>blobbing into Siam and Indonesia
>not tastefully annex Laos and Cambodia along with Hainan for a proper Groß Ricepaddy

>>>/r/Paradoxplaza
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What did they mean by this?
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>>163321860
encrypted
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>>163320976
Create UNITED ANGLO EMPIRE, CONQUER BRITAIN
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>>163321936
But I bought it.
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>>163321990
>implying buying something on steam = owning something
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>>163321990
You have to buy it twice
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>>163322080
I'm well aware of this meme. But I'm able to see into pretty much all the other files in my DLC folder. So I don't understand what's the deal with this one.

I just want to find which one has the Kairis soundtrack so I can listen to it while playing CK2.
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>>163322209
The sad part is this isn't even bait.
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>>163322209
I'm pretty sure they're extra careful to make it hard to obtain their music files
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>>163322457

>>163322376
What? I just want to listen to a specific soundtrack without going to Youtube, what's bait about that?
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>>163322642
>eu4
Cancer.
>paying for dlc
Cancer.
>wanting to listen to shitty in game music
Cancer.
>buying shitty in game music
Cancer.
>wanting to port shitty in game music you paid for to another game you paid for





CANCER





>>>/r/paradoxplaza





CANCER





>>>/r/paradoxplaza





CANCER





>>>/r/paradoxplaza





CANCER





>>>/r/paradoxplaza





CANCER





>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>163323993
good post
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>>163322642
DLC 44
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>>163324585
That should be x2
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>>163324882
Nope, the first was respectful disagreement.
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>>163324982
Oh I misread
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>>163321924
talex
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>>163324882
>Respectfully Disagree x1
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>>163324882
>Respectfully Disagree x2
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>>163325542
has anyone put that face on the liquor sprite yet?
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>>163326562
Please, please kill yourself.
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r8
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Two questions about After the End.

Do I take the Chesapeake Bay area?

Why do cultures not have specific races?
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>>163327775
Forgot pic.
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>>163327654
it's ok i guess, you didn't blob too much so that's good
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>>163327775
>Why do cultures not have specific races?
why should they?
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>>163328307
Because it is silly for a culture based on the Amish to have blacks or Asians in it.
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>>163328407
no it isnt. back to /pol/ you racist shithaed
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>>163325131
>>163325580
>>163326562
>>163327810
I'd love to stick a knife in these worthless rats.
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>>163328482
yes it is
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>>163328583
fuck you
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>>163328482
>>163328617
he's right you fucking retard
The number of black Amish or Mennonite people is in the double digits at the most
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>>163328482
>anyone of any race can be any culture!!!

Then why don't you see white people chucking spears and raping babies with tribesmen in Africa?
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>>163328842
It's not just the Amish. It happens to other cultures that should be white but Tuskegees, for example, are always black.
>>
R&I SPERGING OUT ON /POL/
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>>163327909
I would take Ohio first then go for Chesapeake and Virginia to form a bit of a rectangle
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>>163328842
>retard
shut up, child.
>>163328964
>>anyone of any race can be any culture!!!
Yes.
>>163328990
>Tuskegees, for example, are always black.
thats simply not true
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>>163329080
Based R&I
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>>163328617
fuck you
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>>163329092
I was going to take the Rostmann cultural places, basically north of the Ohio River then west to the Mississippi. Not sure if I want it or not for aesthetic purposes.
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>>163329080
where
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>>163329428
/pol/

you fucking blind cunt jesus christ I despise all of you
>>
question for NWO
For SADC ambitions, there is the condition "ALL OF THE BELOW : NOT IN A SPHERE OF INFLUENCE& HAVE THE COUNTRY FLAG SADC AMBITIONS"
Does this mean not for both, or do I have to somehow get the flag even though its improssible
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>>163271820
You cant be serious.
1. Youre not allowed to announce reports
2. Youre literally shitposting itt
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>>163329763
1. He never announced any report
2. Prove it
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>>163329665
Post a screenshot of the decision conditions
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>>163329934
nevermind, It was not for both. Thanks anyways
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>>163329542
but where you dumb autist holy shit
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>>163330058
>>>/pol/
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>>163330148
are you fucking retarded? /pol/ is a big board
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>>163330217
>/pol/ is a big board
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>>163330058
/pol/

fucking hell you're a thick headed waste of space
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>>163330217
for you
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>>163330260
WELL THEN WHERE THE FUCK IS R&I
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>>163330538
ON /POL/ YOU DAFT CUNT
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>>163330615
IN
WHAT
FUCKING
THREAD
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>>163330258
4u
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found him lads
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>>163330538
I FOUND HIM
>>>/pol/103830933
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>>163330645
USE
YOUR
FUCKING
EYES
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>>163321803
>Thialand isn't south east asian

What am I even reading here?
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Alright me laddos, im going to sleep. I hope you're all dead when I wake up
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>>163330719
You were doing so well until this post.
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>>163330960
y-you too
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>>163330991
sorry :(
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>>163330960
see you tomorrow
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>>163330960
rude
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>>163330960
i love you, anon. good night.
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So how exactly do I form the Teutonic Empire?
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>>163331189
build licker sheds
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>>163331189
It was in UnHMM. Unlucky for you it's not in development any more and it doesn't work with the latest HPM.
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>>163331189
remove kielbasa
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>>163331286
>It doesnt work with the latest HPM

REEE THIS WHOLE PLAYTHROUGH WAS FOR NOTHING
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>>163331360
Just add the country manually yourself retard
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wheres our report and ignore shitposting guy
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>>163293206

You're fucked, you have to war turkey to release bulgaria, then use the restore order cb on bulgaria. Unless you have a save from before you made war on them you have to wait until the truce expires to get the land too.
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>>163331478
Held hostage by /pol/. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue him?
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How do I best RP the scenario described in this image in a GSG?
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>>163332114
What the fuck is this pseudo-science shit?
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>>163332114
WE WUZ WOLVES
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>>163331887
Yeah that's what I ended up doing. I wasn't really fucked though as it was Serbia's war that they called me into. In return for taking Silistre I gave the Bulgars their clay that was held by the Turks and now we are best of buds.
>>
aight lads which do I go for in CK2

1. Celtic Kingdom
2. Kingdom formed around the duchies of Austria, Moravia, and Parts of Poland
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>tfw gsg doesnt want to play superpower 2
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>>163332653
I dont understand it desu
teach me anon and I will ;)
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>>163332856
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=265820020

just read that desu
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>>163292483
>ukraine
>Aragon
>MOTHERFUCKING NOVGOROD

what the shit senpai????
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>>163302387
I did it anon. Thankyou for your help.
>>
What should the border of a Groß Prussia be?
T. Newfag
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>>163330869
>Thialand isn't south east asian
Where the fuck did I say that?
Blobbing into all of SE Asia as Vietnam is retarded
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>>163333185
>>
New Thread
>>163333289
>>163333289
>>163333289
>>163333289
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>>163333360
what the actual fuck
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>>163331025
>>163331045
>>163331046
>>163331067
Hey I'm back!
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>>163348551
salex
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>>163348551
calex
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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