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can you imagine being this salty tho
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>>163223737
brown elf direct brain stimulation VR when
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LAURA STILL SUCKS
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>he bought the deluxe version
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>>163223342
>pretend

THE ENTIRE CAST GOT NERFED EXCEPT LIKE URIEN

There was no reason to go heavy-handed on nerfs, this leaves EVERYONE unhappy

You can like shotos, grapplers, zoners, top tiers, it doesnt matter because THEY ALL GOT NERFED

Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?
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>>163223859
marn is saying laura will break the game
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https://www twitchtv/ultrachentv?sr=a

if you want to hear ultrachen read the patch notes, he's 1/4 in now
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Are league points getting reset tomorrow? Should I even spend time beating scrubs tonight?
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>>163223737
This is a cute girl(human).
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>>163223847
>tfw skullgirls will NEVER EVER be played at a major event by people who matter
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>>163223884
>Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?

Urien players.
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tfw pigskin

>>163223889
shit i aint got anything better to do
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>they nerfed Alex
I don't even understand why
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>we know that Karin has shit anti airs
>so we gave her an air target combo that's not actually going to help her

thanks combofiend
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>>163223889
these are the last people i want to hear opinions from
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>>163223884
Urien, Ibuki, Laura and Balrog players

that's about it
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Reminder:

Mika is now a terrifying grappler who can juggle you in the air.
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>V-Skill (Matador Turn):
Reduced projectile invincibility time 5F when follow up is not preformed

>HP Aurora Spin Edge (Claw):
Increased active frames 4F to 6F
Added hitbox to hit opponents behind Vega

>made Vega's V-Skill even more useless than it already is
>HP ASE actually sounds okay but will have to test

As for everything else he got nerfed

What the fuck Combofiend?
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>Alex destroyed
Good

Fucking garbage boring character
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>>163223884
>rashid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nerfed
yeah right they'd nerf him right after 5 terrorist attacks? likely story
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I'm gonna play him anyway, but what's the general consensus on Raven?
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>>163224096
he's for fags
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>>163224096
He isn't actually a bird.
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>>163224060
Why do they want Alex to go back to 3S garbage level is beyond me
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Well I'm dropping bitch made SFV for Blazblue. Who are the most fun characters in that game right now?
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>>163223737
play cummy blasterz
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>>163224221
hakumen
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>>163224126

>literally transforms into a bird when he wins
>not a bird

?
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>nash got mostly buffs
I tought they would make him a shittier character instead he seems better than before
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Who else buying revelator now that season2 is confirmed shit?
>>163224221
Get Guilty Gear instead.
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>>163224226
how many pages of notes did the last patch have? anything less than 90 isn't worth my time sorry
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>We're gonna do our best to not nerf any of the top tiers and only buff weaker characters
>Nerf weaker characters even more and slighty nerf top tiers
Thanks Capcom
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>All those Rog buffs

UNGA BUNGA HAS EVEN MORE SAFE PRESSURE
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>>163223847
Turn off your bluelight filter
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>>163224262
Do people still play UNIEL or is it ded
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>>163224292
nah, I think Guilty Gear character designs and music are fucking trash. I like Blazblue much better. plus better story
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>>163224221
desu they are all pretty fun, they are all so unique.
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>>163224096
too braindead and doesn't need his main gameplay gimmick at all to function
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>>163224268
This is a bird that turns into a bird
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>>163224324
people will defend this
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>>163224356
people still play but its mostly steam now
i play ps3
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>>163224379
Isn't the music down by the same guy for both games?
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>>163224094
this
RASHID WILL WIN EVEO THIS YEAR
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>bison gets a reversal in v-trigger
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>>163224379

Wew fuckin lad

Ya'll seein this shit?
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>>163224482
still loses to meaties
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>>163224485
blazblue has actual neutral. if i want to get knocked down into another coinflip mixup i'd play sfv.
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>>163224396

There's almost no point in using it when it gets punished so severely. I can only use it against Pot's.
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>>163224379
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>>163223884
How many slaps in the face does it take? I am petty sure capcom even had a powerpoint presentation where they wrote again that they swear only buffs now.
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>>163224525
it's fully invincible on frames 1-25 tho?

>EX Head Press (V-Trigger):
>Changed to full invincibility to 1F-25F of animation
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So who walks away from this awful season not feeling like shit?

Urien, Balrog, Laura(sort of)...?
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Anyone who wants to join. Final Season 1 lobby for SFV.
prlprl
ft1
password 2017

Come on in and have fun.
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the season of Rashid begins in less than 10 hours
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>>163223884
fucking laura
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>>163223943
Sonicfox is the fighting game player that made the most money from playing fighting games.
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>>163224386
and only a handfull of them are viable. so much fun
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>>163224590
>gets punished so severely
>i only use it against this one character with large one hit moves and a 40% command grab
wew lad?
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>>163224765
sick mixup
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>>163224671
It also takes 35 frames for the hitbox to come out so you'll recover from your meaty in time to block it at which point you are +2.
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>>163224770
I wish I could be fucking Laura right now
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>tfw they guy one of your characters
>but break another

HAHA

BOXER UPRISING SOON COMRADES
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>Urien is buffed

3rd Strike is back bois
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>>163224096
I would prefer if his oki projectile would have better startup but was worse for oki and that his pain gimmick was active at all times instead of just the stance. Otherwise decent coolio.
>>163224221
The cat.
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>>163224825
>only a handful are viable
not true
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>>163224671
isnt that just like new DPs

it needs to be invincible from frame 0 i thought
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>>163224792
mostly because of mk tho
a game with no international competition
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>>163224765
are u gonna dodge me in season 2 as well?
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>>163224923
>frame 0

:^)
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>people are going to play a game where the lower tiers are nerfed even more

so less character diversity? get fucked capcom lmao
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>>163224356
The discord is fairly active.
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>>163224845

What? Just back up, he's slow as shit.

>>163224903
Might be a little broken if it were active at all times
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>those Ryu nerfs

Aaand dropped

Guess I'm picking up Urien or Laura or I lbuki
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>>163224546
But BB is more one sided than GG and I don't say that as an angry goober, I play both of them a lot.
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>>163224643
OH TEA GEE

BIONIC

______________________!
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Rashid players are the most peaceful fighting game players of all time.
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>>163224726
laura is mostly the same

nerfed some of her better buttons and made it so she can get different buttons of meaties.
>hit meaty lp elbow and you get st.lp links
>in season 2 you get st.lk link
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Reminder that PC Xrd is the only game (in addition to skullgirls) where you can enjoy netplay with combined input delay of 2 (two) frames.
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Urien, Balrog, Laura, Balrog top tier. I fucking hate the sound of this already mates
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>they actually nerfed Vega
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>>163224928
>b-but that doesnt count
kys tard
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Cammy!
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*coughing up blood* This is the end for me...farewell, my friends...
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>>163225053
>But BB is more one sided than GG
you're absolutely delusional
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>>163225090
that mus have been fun to animating, I wonder how they rig the characters

t. have an interest in animation
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Karin
Parameters for most of Karin's general attack have been revised. As Karin's primary weakness was her lack of anti-airs, an airborne target combo has been added to strengthen her anti-air abilities.
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>>163225053
Guilty Gear is literally Vortex: The Game...

No idea why so many people dick ride that shitty fuck game
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>>163225174
I'm not, and its a good thing I'm here to correct your lies you think you can get away with outside of /blaz/. Neither game has issues with being too one sided though, both are great.
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>>163224643
you'd swear combofiend had death threats the way he disappeared
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>>163225031
thank fuck
i'm so sick of seeing Ryu
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>>163225019
Of course the effect would be lessened if it was a passive trait.
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>>163225279
this is why nobody likes goobers
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>>163224643
And they will probably explain it all away with
>System changes don't count as nerfs.
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Vega
Parameters for some of Vega's normal attacks have been revised. As Vega's damage output was generally questionable, Aurora Spin Edge and Crimson Terror have been strengthened, increasing the return when they land.
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Are you guys ready for Rashid's season?
Soon, everyone will remember the name well!
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>>163225138
well it doesn't.
mortal kombat can barely even be classified as a fighting game
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>>163225090
Thats Zangief players
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>>163225279
those anons are crazy anon you're correct

I don't understand how they think BB isn't more oppressive that GG.
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>>163225171
This hurts.

No more meaty LK Elbow? For what purpose?
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>>163225279
explain how i'm wrong then
explain how the oki game in bb is the same as in gg when bb has things like multiple ways to tech and no yrc projectile oki horseshit
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>>163225174
>>163225278
blazbabbies everyone
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>>163225436
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>>163225356
its good. ryu should just be introduction character.
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laura might still suck but I can't wait to ex command grab necallis doing button into stomp

1f gap is all I need pussies
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>>163225410
I want to fug the cammy
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>>163225423
no one is even talking about him. boring shitty pandering character no one wants to see or play.
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>>163225132
nice webm for ants fag
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>All these fucking faggots already hopping on the Ibuki bandwagon

desu they should make it so if you never played a character in ranked during S1 then you can't use them in season 2

Fucking tier whoring faggots
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So what the actual fuck do I now with Mika when I can't make niggers guess at mid screen? she's toast boyz
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>>163225631
I like ibuki very much but I can't play her worth a shit

sticking with zangief/laura/bison desu senpai, good luck in season 2
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>>163225607
>pandering
What?

And rashid is easily the most liked new character SFV. Everyone loves his spin moves and his song
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>>163225607
fuck off /pol/
i cant wait to see how butthurt you get when he starts winning majors
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>>163224726

Pretty much every low to mid tier character got buffs, only Birdie and Fang seem not to get a whole lot. Urien, Rog, Sim, Bison, Ibuki got mad buffs, the rest quite decent ones. Don't know why everyone is whining as the top got nerfed all over. It looks balanced on paper.
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>>163225607
Peeple get pretty hype when he does well in a tournament.
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>>163225171
You can't even do Power Bombs after Mp - Lp-slash probably because they made it so that after st.mp or any cancellable buttons you pushback farther. They want 3S Alex where you play neutral and barely get anything from whatever you do
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someone at capcom decided Urien needed a buff lmao
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>>163225631
Maybe they wanted to play her from the get go, but weren't impressed? I was hoping for Juri to be good and passed by when she released.
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>>163225787
>being a filthy commoner
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>>163225607

Everyone loves Rashid as he is fun and interesting. Takeuchi is amazing to watch...when he was still playing well.

Piss off to you know where, homo.
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>>163225874
>not being a loyalist
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>>163225607
this isn't true at all. people always get hyped as shit when rashid stunts on people on stream.

plus he's spawned off like 3 or 4 different memes by himself
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teenage ninja
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>Ryu nerfed hard
>Ken nerfed
>Chun-li nerfed
>M Bison alterred
>Cammy nerfed
>Birdie nerfed (lmao)
>Necali nerfed
>Vega nerfed (lmao)
>Cammy lightly nerfed
>Nash nerfed hard
>RASHID BUFFED (!)
>Karin lightly nerfed
>R Mika nerfed
>Zangief nerfed (L M A O)
>LAURA BUFFED (!)
>Dhalsim alterred
>Fang nerfed (L M A O) (grey health change in his favor though)
>Alex nerfed
>Guile nerfed
>IBUKI BUFFED (!)
>BALROG BUFFED (!)
>Juri alterred
>URIEN BUFFED (!)

FIVE CHARACTERS

FIVE CHARACTERS GOT BUFFED, EVERYONE ELSE IS FUCKED

AND YET PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING THIS
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>>163225908
SF games make such huge changes between games it's hard to be a loyalist. I liked playing Juri as a zoner in SFIV which is impossible in SFV.
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>>163225973
>Karin lightly nerfed

lmao
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>>163225973
why lie on the internet though
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>>163225973
dhalsim and guile both got big buffs

fuck off goober
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>>163225779
it's honestly a head scratcher.
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Who is easy in kof14
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>>163226043
>I liked playing Juri as a zoner in SFIV
wha

how

how does this work?
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>>163225631
I mained that bitch since she got released but I'm dropping her for Mika this season so dont worry not everyone is playing characters for bandwagon buffs
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>>163225607
just because he is the least used character doesn't mean no one wants to play him !!
rashid is awesome i love terrorists
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>>163225973

Funny how pro gamers seem to completely disagree with you.
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>>163226067
Most people are just salty about boom loops being shit now.
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>>163225881
>People kept memeing on about le epic 3S Urien and aegis reflector memes
>Niggas in the club are about to see what real aegis reflector memes look like until they stop laughing

Can't wait.
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>>163226098
don't mash divekicks
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>>163226152
most people cant even do the boom loops outside training room
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>>163225403
I'm a goobloo actually

>>163225505
Watch any BB footage, if you actually played the game you would take notice. I'm not going to explain it again in length because I think I've explained myself when discussing this issue like 4 times on fgg befoe, check the archives or something. Even /blaz/ shares this opinion, it doesn't make the game worse, its just how it is.

tl:dr:
GG's initial mix up is stronger, easier to open the opponent up on wake up GENERALLY(stronger oki).

In BB initial mix up is not GENERALLY as strong, easier to stay in and more opportunities to open the opponent up (stronger pressure)

pick your poison
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>>163226098
Spam fireballs and use counter to stay slippery. Don't be a divekicking moron.
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>congrats on winning that match
>you have been deducted 500,000ish fight money

THANKS PETER

Thankfully it just seems to be like a text bug, I still have all my FM
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>>163226230
heavy oki games are 110% SHIT, so ez choice
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>>163226210
Yeah and it took them ages just to learn how to do it in training.
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>>163226230
>if you actually played the game you would take notice
i do though lmao

>In BB initial mix up is not GENERALLY as strong, easier to stay in and more opportunities to open the opponent up (stronger pressure)
>this somehow translatesto BB is more one sided
you're either lying or shit at these games, choose one
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>>163225631

Nigga, Ibuki's been my girl since the begging piss off m8.
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>ibuki st.mk +5
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>>163225787
It seems ridiculous how buffed he got considering where he already was and where almost everyone generally considered better than him is going. I'm pretty sure they want him to be a top tier threat in S2 to make up for his near-absence in S1.
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Standing LK (Normal/V-Trigger):
• Changed startup from 4F to 5F
• Shrunk hitbox
• Expanded hurtbox around hitbox
• Increased horizontal knockback on-hit in the air

Airborne Hyakuretsukyaku (Normal/V-Trigger):
• Changed startup from 7F to 8F
• Decreased normal damage from 80 to 70
• Changed advantage on-block from +1F to -2F

my sides, thank god, bitch die in a fire pls
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who is dank and why do people think he is me? i would never use a cancerous word like "dank."
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>>163226519

That's a good decision on their part, Urien is a hype character.
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>>163226165
>Those Urien buffs
I'm not sure he needed all that

>Health buff
>j.lk crossup
>cr.lp, cr.mk, st.hk, st.hp all buffed
>fireballs all buffed
>tackles all have better juggle potential
>aegis reflector damage buff
>also small damage buffs to some of his normals and moves

He was already a damn good character in S1
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>>163226613
See me in Super Turbo
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>>163226689
i'm taking a break before i play in this tournament in 20 min, sorry.
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>>163225896
>Everyone loves Rashid as he is fun and interesting
kys retard this is not your twitch chat
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>>163226686
did anything of his get nerfed?
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>>163225973
>Juri altereted

OH LORDY PLEASE TELL ME THEY GAVE HER THE OLD FIREBALLS BACK PLEASE
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>Birdie changes
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>>163226752
Stream?
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>>163226650
>the literal worst anime setup kusoge straight from marvel
>"hype"
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>>163226808
no
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they should have made a video with combofiend talking for every character change like they did with ultra
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>>163226135
that's because they're shills and cucks

stay woke you dumb fuck
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>>163226845
arkadeum
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first season 2 tourney top 8
Urien x2, Akuma x2, Laura, Ibuki, Balrog, Rashit

screencap this calling it now
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>>163226686
Yo that taiwanese urien player is going to be a legit god now
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>>163226808
I think some of his normals have slower startup then before but more hitstun so you can do combos you couldn't before
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>>163226752
Hope you win, I believe in you
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>>163226915
I'd love to see him try to justify the shit they did to Fang and Birdie.
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>>163227019
What did they do to fang and birdie?
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Just got home from work, can someone sum up the shitstorm for me?
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>>163226915
Me too, I'd like to see him argue why some characters were obliterated.
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>>163226970
>laura

lmaooo
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>>163227124
sure
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>>163226915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycnVK0S0mJU
>I wish street fighter was not from capcom but I love capcom
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>>163227014
why don't you suck that dirty custy ass tripfags dick a little harder there mystic
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>>163223884
>THE ENTIRE CAST GOT NERFED EXCEPT LIKE URIEN
>Who can walk away from this feeling satisfied?


Most footsie buttons got slowed down and a lot of hurtboxes got increased. So you can now whiff punish easier like everyone has been asking for the whole year. Those complainers at least should be happy I guess.
>>
>Ryu and Nash players face when
Those are two characters who fell off pretty hard as people learned the game over the months.

The Ryu players were not real threats in the latter tournaments of the CPT

Nash players were even less of a threat. Infiltration got BTFO and Yukadon and Bonchan didn't do shit either
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>>163227124
sf5 still shit
capboars still throwing money at low quality mods
>>163227019
Remember what he said for deejay?
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>cammy buffs
who in their right mind
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>>163227380
>you can whiff punish with slower moves

lel
>>
How are Ryu and Ken players going to survive the nerfs?
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>>163227380
>Most footsie buttons got slowed down and a lot of hurtboxes got increased.
That sounds horrible especially for how bad sfv was already.
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>>163225132

When the amount of input lag is also equal to your average players online
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>>163227493
ST Fundies ;^)
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>>163227493
wakeup shoryuken
oh wait, they can't even do that either
>>
https://twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810868181162147840

>
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>>163227493

MUH FUNDAMENTALS

MUH PARRY INFINITE SKILL CEILING

MUH
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>>163227660
i can't live without my wakeup shoryu :c
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>>163227673
we kusoge now
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Chris G said that Ibuki, Sim, Bison, Gief, Laura, Urien, Guile, Rog all got really good buffs. Who to believe? fgg that doesnt play games or an EVO winner?!
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>>163227493
finally I can beat these random ass dp mashers, c u in silver soon fgg
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>>163227673
Urien and Laura are going to be scary fucks this season.
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>>163226686
Will we see the return of Gooey?
>>
urien is already one of the most common and annoying characters online

fuck his gorilla neutral and fuck everyone who plays him
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>>163227826
we been saying the same thing f a m
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>>163227826
i would trust an epileptic mute with downs (while seizing), before i would trust the opinion of fgg.
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>>163227873
3s is so epic though

nothing more epic than a muscley guy in a diaper
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>>163227873

gorilla and sfv are basically synonymous

There is no honest neutral in this game
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>>163227793
Remove spook
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oh wow I missed another buff of Urien's

His st.mp is now +6 on hit so that's new combo/damage right there...
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>>163227872
Fuck no, but he won't be as garbage anymore.
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>we will have to live with all these nerfs to characters that needed buffs for a year
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Nathaniel Essex in MVCI?
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IT'S OUT ON PC
CAPCOM FUCKUP
IT'S OUT ON PC NO TROLL
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>>163226815
That would make me diamonds.
>>
>>163228136
Balance patches once per year is bad business.
>>
this character is fucking god damn retarded faggot bait. did gootecks suck off combofiend or something? why in hell they buff this shitlord??

https://twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810868431499231234
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>>163228184
only movie licence marvel characters
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>>163228136
>>163228271
better than every few weeks like NRS games
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>>163228184
>Mr. Sinsiter
>with no Jean
>with no Rightclops
>with no Cable
>with no Havok
>with no edgy third summers brother
>with no Goblyn Queen
>with no X-Man

Literally for what purpose?
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>>163228136
>and everybody else will tell us to shutup and adapt while they enjoy their characters with massive buffs

I don't want this to be another 3S situation.
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>>163228136
Shit needs to be rebalanced after every major event or so to shake shit up and address how the ladder is. Minimum every 4 months.
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>>163228306
Strongly disagree with this shit opinion
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>>163228275
casuals think he's hype
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>>163228184
>>>/mlp/
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>>163228386
theres a reason NRS games die a few months after release

and it's not because they are bad, because they aren't
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characters you wanna see in Infinite go

pic related
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>all these Karin nerfs

Wew lads
Thank God I dropped this game months ago lmao
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>>163228368
I agree. 4-6 months is perfect.
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>>163228306
I'd say they are both equally bad, there is a happy medium of a every handful of months. These games really don't need a ton of time to breathe for people to figure out matchups.
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>>163228184
lol mr sinister hasn't been relevant since like 2010 when Wolverine and the X-Men ended
>>
>>163227536
>Normals are to stubby
>okay we make hitboxes bigger
No just make fucking normals not stubby.
>>
What should I watch while I eat dinner?
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>>163228306
>b-but
Stop right there.
>>
>>163228456
>NRS games
>it's not because they are bad

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>163228306
Actually MKX hasnt had that many patches I dont think, KI on the other hand has patches every month when in-season and then some every 2-4 months when out of season, but they dont destroy the game
>>
>>163228486
he was in that deadpool character action game that came out a couple years ago tho
>>
>>163227124
ryu got nerfed now errybody mad they gonna get exposed as not having fundementals so strongth they make mr. mediocre seem op and infact he was too good and they sukt

i was such a player

feels bad man
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>>163228486
>>163228309
>>163228281

fug

I hate this thing where marvel killed off a bunch of characters in that battleworld thing of them

a huge fuck you to comics - they're only focussing on movies

I'm not sure whether to blame disney, marvel, stan lee, or everyone.
>>
>>163228456
>it's a /v/tard spouts words he killed the meaning of episode
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>>163228556
>Actually MKX hasnt had that many patches I dont think
it had just as many as injustice and mk9
>but they don't destroy the game
can't kill something that was never alive
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>>163228459
God yes

BB Hood or Lord Raptor would be great

I am going to be so fucking mad if we get trash ass Felicia and Hsien Ko again

>>163228560
Oh wow really

That game just kinda came and went. Forgot it even existed
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>>163228575
I don't understand how Alex got hit hard, yet Guile and Urien both got crazy buffed.
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>>163228625
>can't kill something that was never alive

Delete your post right fucking now
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>>163228597
Stay in your fucking board you insufferable jojobrony >>>/co/
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>>163228621
theres no memes or buzzwords in that post

unlike yours
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>>163228459
Emperor Vulcan
Mr Sinister
Iceman
Dormammu
Taskmaster
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>>163228459
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>>163228692
we're understanding the progression from SFV to SF3 for Alex

Literally getting slower and worse.
>>
>>163228486
Didn't he turn into a hive being with a lot of girl bodies?
>>
>>163225581
Apparently, his stomp got turned into a hit w/ projectile breaking properties. So you'll get hit trying to do that.
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>>163228729
kys anineet
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>>163228881
Why are you posting zombie food?
>>
are people still playing the anime game with metal music that was released on steam a few days ago? or is it doa?
>>
Nerfed
>Fang
>Birdie
>Alex
>Chun
>Ryu
>Necalli

Buffed
>Nash
>Rashid
>Zangief
>Urien
>Laura
>Balrog
Who else got changed with the patch?
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>>163228716
As somone who loved KI. Being a Xbone exclusive for so long killed the community.
>>
Where were the Fags that said the leaked build wasn't final
Hahaah
Juggles are here to stay
>>
>>163229034
No DOA is a fighting game made by Tecmo Koei.
>>
>>163229034
it'll be dead tomorrow when sfv season 2 drops. save your money
>>
>>163229034
just another anime fotm game for the steam babies
>>
>>163228881
resident evil fightan when?

i main stinky ada
>>
>>163229065
>gief
>nash
>buffed

Lmao
>>
>Parameters for some of Vega's normal attacks have been revised. As Vega's damage output was generally questionable, Aurora Spin Edge and Crimson Terror have been strengthened, increasing the return when they land.

Juggle potential for Vega's ASE is cool but what's the point when the startup is still too slow to use as an AA? Why say Vega's damage is questionable then nerf his damage and increase the stun? Surely the more consistent way to increase is damage is to actually increase the damage he does.
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>>163227493
Easy: THEY WON'T
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>>163229065
mika is lower than shit tier now. vega nerfed. ibuki buffed.
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>>163229067
It's still active online though.
>>
>>163228657
I think BB Hood is more popular than Hsien-Ko so is at least a shot in the dark. Lord Raptor is lolno tier outside of a stage cameo.
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>>163228459
Adam Warlock
Sentry
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>>163228887
>>163228692
I can see the light, tell my mother that I love her.
>>
Balrog is a motion character now? Why?
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>>163223737
>Hey lets buff characters that were already top 8
>Hey lets nerf characters that didn't see rep in top 8 ever
Capcom pls
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>>163229210
Yes but imagine how much more active it would be on Steam where everyone can play it for free and see all the amazing features to distract from the hideous characters.
>>
>>163229169
hard reads and style
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>>163229315
Charge is hard for casuals
>>
>>163229315
you can't #riseup holding downback
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>>163229315
Because a guy that has a fighting style of just beating the shit out of the opponent with overpowering force holding back most of the time doesn't make sense.
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http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2016/12/19/tekken-revolution-ps3-is-coming-to-an-end-on-march-21-2017.html
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>>163228459
protoman
strider
green goblin
>>
>>163229315
claw? it opens the way for more combos
hes more fun than ever
>>
>>163229315
Allows you to catch people while pressuring, I agree motion is retarded but its a decent change to him overall.
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>>163228459
Moon Knight

I want the crazy as fuck Warren Ellis moon knight with the suit alt costume
>>
So is the new Mahvel game losing assists? It's more like SF X Tekken with tags now?
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>>163229421
Ded Eliza
>>
>>163224040
Yeah vskill nerf is crappy. Most normals got buffed, some even got better advantage making them safer. The damage nerf to 2nd hit in clawless target combo is crappy though. Stun buffs to roll are nice. I don't like the slower normals but they already were quite quick. I'm a little worried about what will link from counter now.

I'm happiest about buff to air throw, it already was great before. Sounds like a buff for Izuna Drop as well--less frames but better range.
>>
>>163229034
Guilty Gear yes of course people are still playing.
>>
will there be enough time to charge a dash straight after doing dp motion corkscrew to juggle?
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>>163229112
True I just wish it was more popular at loclas.
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>>163229498
He is just going to be a Bendis Moon Knight and moveset clone of Wolverine.
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>>163229353
The problem though is that steam users who dont also have consoles dont really play fighters. I dont doubt that more people wouldve given it a go than on the shitty W10 store, but I dont think the number or returning numbers after the first month wouldve been a huge difference.
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>>163229421
how much did luvcheez spend/grind in this
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>>163229353
>it's a steambaby
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>>163229501
We know there are no more assists but we don't know the gameplay since we aren't psychics.
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>>163229421
RIP

this is the game that got me into Tekken

It was broken and had cheaters but I still much preferred it to the tag bullshit in TTT2

Not sure if I'll buy T7 though. The combos in that look stupid long
>>
>>163229315
because if youre a charge character you have to use your normals and be smart instead of just spamming special moves. casual players don't like this and prefer to spam moves like a tard so they removed a lot of the charge characters in sfv
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>>163228478
>tfw you already plan on buying it
why am i such a cuck bros
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>>163228459
She-Hulk
Iron Fist
Hawkeye
Shiklah
Strider
Nathan Spencer
Demitri
A Hunter
>>
>>163229634
His mob money will pay for it
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>>163229705
the motion move is terribly slow and unsafe
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>>163229716
>Demitri
im not alone
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>>163229634
$300 for her and her costumes is what he told me.

>>163229762
He's too cool man.
>>
all the new top tiers are characters no one likes

i hope sako at least plays ibuki otherwise its going to be a boring year of watching streams lmao
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>>163228459
Demitri
Ruby Heart
Son Son
BB Hood
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tfw i can unlock all characters for free with the amount of fight money i've earned but will buy the season pass to support the best fighting game and the best developer in the world

rise up, lads.
>>
>>163228459
>>163229762
>>163229858
Morrigan is already in the game you dorks.
>>
>>163229928
who cares. more Darkstalkers, they're under utilized characters
>>
>>163229928
Are you implying that all Darkstalkers characters are the same?! Hold your tongue!
>>
>>163229616
I don't think they'll give wolverines moveset to anyone because the guy who leaked the MvCI announcement said Xmen characters were already planned for DLC

Wolverine will definitely be part of that xmen dlc
>>
>>163229823
Urien was hype as fuck back in the day because he wasn't going to be in every match and charge-partitioning was an honest to god high-skillcap tech.

Now we're going to see a ton of Uriens in finals because capcum has zero understanding about videogames
>>
>>163229897
Did you buy all the premium costumes already?
>>
Probably going to buy the season pass so I don't have to play against rankedcucks for fight money and can training mode monster all day #riseup
>>
>those birdie nerfs
...........…........................lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>
Now that season 2 is confirmed shit what do we have to look forward to?
>>
>>163229928
ye it's not like the previous 2 marvel games both had at least 3 vsav reps
>>
>>163230123
Well there's a Nier Automata demo coming out Thursday.
>>
>>163230116
you mean those universal nerfs right?
>>
>>163230123
>ryu player detected
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>>163230123
CF1.1
More Revlaturd
People watching at smash tournaments?
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>>163230123
Tekken
>>163230186
Kill yourself back to /v/
>>
So are all the characters coming out this season brand new?
>>
>>163230123
#PlayKI
>>
>>163229498
my nigga
moon knight is creepy as fuck
>>
>>163230123
christmas!
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>sf5 will die before riot fighter comes out
are we headed for another dark age?
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name one current gen fighting game that is worse than SFV
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>>163230291
as new and high production value as decapre
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>>163230393
Fantasy Strike.
>>
friendly reminder that melee is already balanced
>>
>>163229897
Was it mostly online, dialysis challenges or survival?
>>
>>163229981
>>163229986
You are going to get Manphibian with very familiar moves.
>>
>>163230380
Stop trying to force this dark age meme, it's absolutely retarded
>>
>>163228459
Ingrid
Gene
Arthur
Decapre
Necro
BB hood
Jill Valentine
Talbain
Lilith
Nero
Lady
Tessa
Guy
Cody
Haggar
Gill
Dan
Sakura
Blanka

Punisher
Nightcrawler
Groot
Rocket Raccoon
Black Widow
Deadpool
Daredevil
Rogue
Gambit
Scarlett Witch
Cable
X-23


fill in with whatever shit pleb characters people always like
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>>163230467
Capcom always manages to go lower than peoples expectations. They are the eternal masters of limbo.
>>
So if we take out all the system needs, how many changes do we actually see?
>>
>>163229421
Rip, I predict eliza ending up in T7 though
The real question is will T7 be out by then
>>
So is Akuma launching at midnight?
>>
>>163230725
Tekken 7 will release 2 days later.
Switch releases shortly before too.
>>
IS AKUMA GOOD THO????
>>
>Pisss getting free ride because his opponents are not showing up
Why is this allowed?
>>
>>163230754
Hell no dumbass.
>>
>>163227673
https://twitter.com/AmbassadorFoxx/status/810981974563287040

Oh my god this is so broken

>Oh, you think you're gonna block my overhead target combo? Thanks for putting yourself in the corner
>>
Are fightingn games worth learning? What marketable skills do you get from playing fighting games?
>>
>>163231014
They didn't test this shit at all.
>>
>>163230837
How else would you fcking do it?
>>
>>163231057
Do you think fighting games are fun? If so then it's worth it.
>>
>>163231014
this.... is a mistake.
>>
>>163231163
"fun" is a cheap word. you can have "fun" kicking a can down the street. what you mean to say is fun and fulfilling, and fighting games definitely aren't that.

they aren't going to help me get into medical school. they aren't going to teach me any marketable skills. yet they still take an obscene amount of time to get good in.

so i'll ask again, are fighting games worth learning?
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>>163231014
LMAOOOOOOOOOO

URIEN DA GOD
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>>163231057
Hand eye coordination. Dedication. Appreciation for fit women.
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>>163231014
HAHAHAHA
What a meme!
Exquisite!
Top 8 kind of exquisite!
>>
>>163231057
typical video game benefits like improved reaction times and problem-solving skills. nothing to impactful
>>
>>163231057
Winning at fighting games releases a huge hit of endorphins in your brain because we're programmed to respond positively to winning games of chance. There are only two functions we have as organisms, the first is to stay alive and the second is to do things that cause our brains to secrete the chemicals that make us happy.
>>
>>163229315
the hell wow just got to that

holy shit hy is he a motion character now

what the hell
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>>163231308
>le edgy contrarian kid
>>
>>163227673
>>163231014
A FOOLISH INSECT THAT DARES TO DEFY ME
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>>163231057
The marketable trait of boosted self confidence for succeeding in something difficult
Unless you go for the low hanging fruit that is SFV
>>
>>163231308
Hand eye coordination is good for a surgeon. Studying framedata can help with development of comparative analysis skills.

Though your stupid as fuck argument can be said for any form of entertainment. So fuck off.
>>
The doll with the megaphone should be a new character
>>
>>163231532
fuck enero
>>
>>163231308
is anything really "worth" learning when you are going to die soon and your existence is completely forgotten? worth what you fucking fag?
>>
>>163231572
Why?
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>These Mika nerfs

Jesus fucking Christ, I was fine with her getting some adjustment, but this is fucking brutal
>>
character who rarely if ever made top 8 and wasn't even good online who got nerfed anyway bros ww@
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James "Diversity" Chen:

>Mika was not that nerfed as bad as people think
>Her V-Skill is scary now

Told you faggots
>>
I wonder if there is also a Japanese blog with changes and due to Capcom incompetence the changes are somehow different from the document we got
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STREET FIGHTER V is a good game and will continue to be a good game in season 2.
>>
>>163231743
the jumping target combo is too good
#staywake
>>
>>163231014
>laughing li joe in the distance
>>
>we won't nerf top tiers, just buff low tiers
>proceeds to gut top tiers and give those guts to low tiers
Nice "balance"
>>
>>163231308
what marketable skills do you get from being an obnoxious cakeboy
>>
>>163231996
>will still call Urien ass
>>
>>163231860
Yeah, although, I quit playing that piece of crap like 3 weeks in when I realized that they don't have any clue on how to make an interesting competitive game.
They just want braindead monkeys to have fun beating each other.
>>
>>163231996
>you will never fraud your way to EVO top 8 with a rigged bracket like LI Joe
why live
>>
>>163231974
mika might as well not have a v skill

maybe it works on total noobs but other than that congrats on your slight damage increase and health loss
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>>163231989
I want a mod that gives her the god their butt back and puts the breast size back to what it use to be.
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>>163231989
>negative ass
>ruining a good design for your 12 year old pandering dlc shit
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>>163232113
>may as well not have v skill
>boosts damage for free and doesnt go away now, armor is now immediate

good luck with your "zoning" faggot. no matter what you do youre going to eat a charged wingless airplane or charged command grab, over and over and over again.
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>>163231992

You're describing a gimmick character

Every one of her other options has been fucked in half
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another 15 losses today, can't stop getting mad at videogames.
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>>163229353
It's not even hideous.
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>>163232330
>You're describing a gimmick character
Welcome to street fighter v.
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>>163232330
its not a gimmick, its a free charged wingless airplane
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Why does Chun-Li have like a million moves?
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>>163232442

SFIV was infinitely more gimmicky, which is to say not much more gimmicky than V

Mika's "adjustment" was obviously done to appease babies. They're gonna complain about Laura the same way they did Mika
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>>163232203
>>163232239
Her titties are fine, her ass only looks that way because of how she stands.
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>>163232606
they should just remove grapplers
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>>163232386
i went 10-2 today if it makes u feel any better
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>>163232490

It's a gimmick when that's her only viable option
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63PIWEPQcNg&feature=youtu.be

This trailer is fucking cool I love it.
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>>163232627
Honestly I think it suits her old costume better emphasizez her legs more and I liked when "big breasts" was one of her likes in her bio.
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>>163232606
its really not a big change. she can still whip you into the corner and ex peach right after to take you to the corner. theyre really changing the amount of time you spend in animation which is probably what makes her "feel" annoying to faggots.
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>>163232627
Nah her ass looks liek negative because it is negative. The tits just belong to the true Juri from 4.
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>>163232735
>Not 2k2 athena with the booty shorts
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>>163232203

Are you serious? Juri's ass is not the best but it is way better than in IV
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look up "bafael"s combos who everyone seems to recommend and he actually uses move names instead of notations lmao whats the point in that id really like to know
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>>163232735
its cute
shouldve waited for the lighting update to make it Tbh
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>>163232870
Athena has like a million outfits, no matter which one you picked someone was going to be mad. There's someone out there right now screaming about how it's not short haired Athena.
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>>163232735
>the face
Just delete the game already.
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>>163232723
the only major nerf was passion press, what are all the other options you think that were removed? keep in mind damage got nerfed universally and so did pressure after throws (mika doesnt lose her pressure after brimstone too), got buffed v-skill, more juggle options, possibly buffed hk (not in notes but its in the beta)
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>>163232735
holy shit they couldn't show this costume with the new shaders?
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>>163232998
Why not just release each different outfit as DLC and make bank
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>>163232735
Agree with >>163232965, but yeah it is pretty great.
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>>163233039
people also ignore the fact that the person runs for 50f instead of 28f after irish whipe

thats 90% to the corner
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>>163233070
Because there are like 30 other outfits they need to put in the game first.
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So here we are.
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>>163233039

Now that I really think about it, you're right that the brunt of it was Passion Press. Still, things like losing the airborne state after a crouching MP and some other things really suck
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How can anyone stand to watch Floe? He's so fat and ugly and just unfunny in general. Why do people like him?
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>>163233194
Are we?
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>>163230837
the guy was there but it was NA only and he was from fucking romania with 187 ping. i beat the other guy. kuroppi beat me like he always does cause he is just better than me.
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>>163233219
>>163233121
i play a lot of mika and i actually think she just became a very very scary grappler instead of just this ridiculous button masher. not nerfed at all imo. shes like zangief, its hard for her to catch you but when she does, youre going to feel it badly.
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tfw i can beat diamond ranked players

i'm doing it lads!!!!!!!!!!! i'm gitting gud!!!!
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>>163232965
>>163233069
>>163233073
I'm pretty sure the outfit and the trailer were made a long ass time ago, probably like a month ago at least.
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>>163233294
>Ducking a vampire
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>>163233345
so?
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>>163233194
RIPPPPPPPPPPPPP
HAVE FUN NEVER GETTING HEALTH BACK WHEN YOU FLEX

i'm sorry for your loss
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>>163233402
So like, the lighting wasn't done. The lighting probably still isn't done at this very moment, that's why it's being tested in the upcoming demo update and isn't coming out until January.
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>>163233273
Well I think so, who the hell else should I ask
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fuckkkkkk bros. im excited about mika. her new gameplay is going to revolve around using v-skill, then running up to you and making you fear for your life getting grabbed or whipped, instead of her mashing buttons like before. fuckkk her new gameplay style is going to be fun as shit.
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rip you beautiful bastard ;_:
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>>163233490
they couldve just waited
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Gief got buffed, r-right?
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>>163233781
I mean yeah, but that would have delayed the costume, which they didn't want to do. They wanted to keep content rolling out constantly. I mean I get it, you're right, the trailer would look WAY better with the update, but it's not like what they did doesn't make sense.
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>they nerfed gief and birdie
for what reason?
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>>163233870
they didnt, those are universal damage nerfs
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>>163233851
>>163233870
Gief gained some and lost some.

Lariat hitting low is nice and a bunch more options putting him at +2 on block gives more opportunities for guessing games.
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I just thoroughly read the whole 92 page list of changes from s2.

What sticks out to me was laura's buffs to cr lk and command grabs, sim's new possible setups and control, and urien's everything.
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>>163233628
i'd fuck the shit out of this chick
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So who should I main in season 2? I normally use Nash but we all know how that went.
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>>163233628
so she's no longer corner based? sounds good
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>>163232643

This, but unironically.

Grapplers are dishonest by design and reward flow charts/gorilla mash
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>>163234050
+2 cr.mk

what the fuck were they thinking
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>>163232793
The ass is not negative idiot, are you blind?
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>james chen reading through laura changes
>90% of changes are nerfs
>stream chat erupts when he says overhead combo in vtrigger
>"I don't think she got much better"

james chen is a smart man. Stay woke sheeple, only streamboars think shes buff
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DONT CUT OFF LY LEG!! DONT DO IT! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*Chomp*

Welcome to season two, Karin.

Fuck. I'll try to adopt, but i will be ready to roll to Ibuki.
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wtf why was chun nerfed so hard, shes literally the most honest char in the game and never wins majors
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>>163234091
shes not corner based. itll be harder for her to send you there but she can still send you there if she hits her whip. otherwise she'll just be trying to do massive damage to you with her v-skill charged moves.
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>>163234171
is this autism?
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>>163234184
whiny babies who think a character that can't win tournaments is broken.
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>>163234171
what the fuck did he mean by this
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>>163233194
doing everything we can
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>>163234131
He won't get many real followups due to pushback probably, but the fact that capcom would give urien so much to work with is surprising. I'm having a tough time figuring out a weakness for the character now
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Will Season 2 expose the frauds? Will Daigo finally rise to be the best again?
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>>163234184
shes not nerfed that bad. shes more honest now than ever with the lightning legs change and she makes up for it with more juggles and stuff.
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>>163234171
*glomps*
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>>163234184
balrog is the most honest character
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>>163234158
Will generally need to consider all the nerfs the whole roster got, then see what buffs others got, see how the system changes will benefit everybody and then MAYBE come to a conclusion.

Not gonna be that easy to tell. Laura will suffer because of the worse oki in S2, but at the same time she will benefit greatly from the lack of shitty air tatsus and wakeup dps.
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>>163234439
no, 3/5 fucks asians, hard
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>>163234171
Only thing that is really a nerf is her lk being plus 2 and not 3 and her stand mk being negative on block (lol just lmao)

Everything else seems fine although her air target combo is pointless.
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PISSS-Streaming is a 0-10 matchup lmao
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>>163234171
put your trip back on redblade
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>>163233936
Stop posting
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>>163234837
stop crying without reading the full patch notes
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>>163234519
she also will suffer from decreased meter gain cause of how meter hungry she is. They even nerfed her cr.mk and didn't buff her hp elbow

she got better but not much and its sad cause shes so close to being good
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Did Birdie actually get it that bad? Everyone's saying the character is dead but I don't know enough about him to see why beyond nerfed damage and pokes (which almost everyone suffered from).
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>>163234519
The only oki she got nerfed for was back throw. Everything else is still the same as S1 or better. The universal +1 after M bolt charge ender is gonna be huge. At a glance, her blender got way better, but her neutral seems even worse outside of projectile invincibility for EX command grab.

Capcom seems dead set on her being a character with bad neutral that converts into zany plus frames that cashes out with command grab.
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>>163234971
lost some armor, some damage, some health, but some of his moves are little safer.

Overall, nerf.
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who has the best system menu voice in xrdr
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>>163235095
Announcer
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>>163234971
They removed his only reversal, the one that cast EX meter

They nerfed his overhead and command grab

Nerfed his cr.mp

Also nerfed his health

I'm dropping him
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>>163235190
>Nerfed his cr.mp

This one hurts the most. That really solid anti-air is the best thing about him.
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>>163235005
being able to actually do something after command grab is gonna be good too but why did they do the things they do?

why nerf cr.mk, why not buff hp elbow, why not make her fireball not so shitty
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>>163235312
chp-> hp chain works as a pretty sick anti air now
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SFV Season 2: the guile and urien game
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>>163235412
they're neat characters at least
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>>163235396

Crouch HP is really good at certain ranges but cr. MP worked pretty much every time no matter what was coming in.
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Welp, another season of playing a garbage character.

Thanks Peter. FANG really needed the nerfs.
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>>163235367
If i remember correctly, you don't need cr mk in oki situations anymore because cr lk is +2 on block. So theoretically you have a low option that should now combo into stand jab on hit, or frametrap into buttons or a tick throw.

This is all in theory though, I don't play laura much
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>>163235312
The ex bullhorn nerf is the worst

Now he's completely free to pressure even with meter lul
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What if guile had an SPD?
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>>163235521
>Welp, another season of playing a garbage character.
Just stop playing shit games?
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>>163234971
I dont know about dead, but the nerfs are ugly.
Most of all you have to consider that Birdie lives off his pokes. Its his maingame. Making them worse directly makes the character worse.

They nerfd his cr.mp anti air. I really dont like it when AAs get nerfed.
Cr.HP is also slower now. Not cool.
He lost frame1 armor off his ex bullhorn, thats a gigantic nerf to his wakeup game. They made it safe on block at the very least though.
Slide was gimmicky but nice to have. Chun Li still gets to keep hers including the vtrigger cancel.
It was one of his few ways to actually get in on fireball chars. Chains and leaps are too slow against Guile and Nash.
He lost his only 4f crouching move. Now its 5f, which kinda sucks. But now st.lk has a reason to exist I guess.

These all add up to significant Birdie nerfs. Dont even care about his overall damage output and health.


His buffs are almost all just fixes. Before you couldnt even properly combo st.mp into bullhead at some distances. Now you get sucked in which allows you to land it easier. Same with his crush counter shit.
His biggest buff is the v-reversal. Now it launches people almost full screen away. I tried it in the leaked beta and its pretty fucking strong for him.
They also made the donut a bit faster. That was definitely needed because you simply lost too much space when you ate one. Some characters could even punish it fullscreen on reaction.


Overall still in a really nerfd state. He will benefit from the nerfs of other characters though. Ex divekicks were disastrous for him. Now he can actually take momentum back. General oki nerf will help him too.
I think they did some of the things because the overall system mechanics changes help him. Dunno if that was truly needed.
He will still be extra free to Guile and maybe Nash too. Dunno how badly he got nerfd.
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>>163235412
I'm fine with this. They are cool characters.
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>>163235367
I think the rationale was that Laura's buttons were all unusually 'pointy' regarding hitbox to hurtbox ratio despite being kind of short range.

I don't think Capcom/Woshige/whoever ever intended for her fireball to be used as a neutral tool, just a bootleg aegis reflector and frame trap extender.
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>>163235524
cr.lk +1 on block now and cr.mk was used in neutral not for oki. It was a really really good button
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wow the guy i played next was streaming while playing and the guy before me forfeited because of it and i asked him to turn off the stream and he left it on and it teleported everywhere. normally have 100 ping to him this time it was 250

epic
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>>163235521
How did they nerf him? After skimming through his changes, it seems like he got buffed.
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>>163235864
Excuses
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So capcom increased pushback on rashid's vskill roll kick thing but made it -6? Basically at max range, like half the cast at least can't punish it lol

Too bad they subtly nerfed rashid's st hp though. I'm gonna miss hp spam until i get a CC
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https://twitter.com/WinnerStaysOn/status/810940887371022336

i felt a great disturbance in the fgc, as if hundreds of goobers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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>>163235884
If you look at the systemwide changes, it says they thought midrange poking characters like Vega, Fang, Alex were too strong in thew environment, so midrange buttons in general were made slower. (but more advantageous on block so the same combos still work.)
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>>163235884
cr.mp is 7f from 6f startup now.

Doesn't seem like a huge nerf, but that button was at once both his footsies and punish tool. Without it, he literally has no way to punish any -6 move aside from two jabs, since he can't cancel lights into specials.
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>>163235864
is pisss playing shadowverse?
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>>163235905
he acts like people were even watching
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>>163235521
the white life system change is a decent indirect buff to F.A.N.G.
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>>163236040
>>
Remember that time Juri drove Cammy and Decapre from Brazil to England in 45 minutes?
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>>163236040
kys arabuk
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>>163236286
Sounds doable with the spy-tech seems to have
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>>163236040
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>>163236190
yeah i've been playing it a lot, i play ptp forest. i'm at AA0 now
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>>163236286
nigga there's an ocean and at least 4000 miles between Brazil and England.
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>Play Fang and Alex
>Both characters got comparatively dick-all for tweaks

>Also play Bison and Urien
>Both characters have been buffed to the high tier heavens

I think I made it out pretty well.
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>>163236465
>play sf5
Nah you pulled the shortest sraw of them all.
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>>163236286
remember when juri had good footsies?
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what do i do when i hit close S far S HS as sol
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>>163236569
rc bandit bringing
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>>163236554
everything else is dead
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What is the AC/DC of fighting games?
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>>163236685
melee
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>Adjustments to invincible moves that use meter. As previously reported, meterless invincible moves (e.g. Shoryuken) will no longer retain the same level of invincibility unless the EX versions are performed.

So wait. DP still has SOME invincibility? Just not as much as before?

I thought they completely removed invincibility outside of EX?
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>>163236685
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>>163235864
How good is Erika with only 1 DAO?
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Why does the FGC treat Guilty GEar players like shit?

What have we done to you?
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>>163225171
>>163225779
>>163226084

Well now that he can charge v gauge infinitely, people cant really zone and must come to him. So we'll see how useful that is
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>>163236784
No one cares about Guilty.
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>>163236741
No, that would be reallyyyyyyyyyy dumb
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>>163236741
depends on the version and what you go for, LK seems to be throw immune, HK upper body immune and MK lower body immune
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>>163236784
marnlinie has the oplauge
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>>163236465
>Bison
>high tier heavens

Mid-tier heavens, maybe. I still can't see him being really strong in season 2, but we've only seen him on paper so far. Urien, though...
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whens baiken?
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>>163236554
This shit is funny to me. Other fighting game players are so full of ressentiment for SF and SF players don't think of other fighting games at all.
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>>163236753
who is erika
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>>163236784
Because you got bullied by smash 4 players (actual children)
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>>163236882
never ever
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>>163236784
>What have we done to you?
Consistently the most obnoxious and vocal part of the FGC.
You deserve all the shit you get.
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>>163236917
The sword chick.
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>>163236748
To bad about JOJO Reference All Stars being 30 fps, it looked so good.
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>>163236976
It isn't even that that was the bad part. Shit is dull as fuck to play.
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>>163236958
but if there are less voices how can the be more vocal?
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>>163236784
>consistently bullied BB players
>now getting it back at themselves
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>92 pages long list of changes
why

do I really have to read this shit
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>>163228887
fucking kek
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>>163237037
just shit your pants in anger more than anybody else.
its what they call a vocal minority.
>>
Reminder that if you do not think that the new patch is flawless and improves SFV in every possible way beyond what we could have ever imagined then you are just a faggot goober gaga player that should kill themselves
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>>163237068
Like half the changes are really pointless too. Or like, not pointless but so minor that they really don't matter.
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>>163237120
angry about what
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>>163236784
Bitched and whined for years about how Blazblue and every other fighting game was so much simpler than guilty gear and how everyone was babies for playing them.

Xrd comes out and its more simple than Blazblue and a number of other fighting games. Guilty Gear is still a great game but the fanbase really got blown up on that.
>>
deIlluminati
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>>163235412
Daigo's capcom fighting jam mains.

I want a return to Daigo guile. I always liked his guile more then ryu. His guile was always the most dynamic Guile.
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>>163237237
>Xrd comes out and its more simple than Blazblue and a number of other fighting games
It really isn't though. AC was just up its own ass with subsystems and a bunch of pointless bullshit that was difficult for the sake of being difficult. Xrd is still a pretty fucking hard game to play in a lot of ways, it's just not AC, which is a good thing.
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>>163237212
Who knows.
Faggots make no sense.
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>>163237237
goobers blow themselves up every time they load up their game and see 3 players online
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I can't believe this. Street Fighter is saved.
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WEST COAST KENS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>163237421
Revelator has 500 players online right now, Capcuck.
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Do you guys even remember the USF4 changelog? After that I said never again.
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how can the trinity ever recover
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>>163237392
Its still a hard game but right now Blazblue def requires a higher level of execution. Whether that's good or bad is obviously up to the individual. There's some other games that are at the same level but yeah its not "every" fighting game, just some whereas Guilty Gear pre-xrd was pretty much the height of mechanic bloat and turning your fingers into pretzels doing certain combos
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>>163237392
And now Blazblue is in a similar place
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>>163237524

>Bragging about 500 players

burningkermits.jpg
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>>163230820
Not for me. He's too linear, and he's got those funky trademark sfv combo timings. Not a fan.
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>SRK still posting videos of "high level" alex players getting blown up by mediocre players on higher tier characters

capcom even nerfed the character too

Like, what was the logic. "He can be scary if everything goes in his favor and the opponent doesn't have a DP, lets make sure that he's not scary to anyone now that DP's are nerfed"
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>>163237616
Is it bad that I actually think BBs in a pretty nice spot right now gameplay wise? Especially after how rough CT was.

I just wish people actually played it.
>>
How long til SFV updates tonight?

I want muh lion haired Akuma asap, and damn anyone who tries to stop me or tell me Akuma/the gaem itself is shite.
>>
is it true that Eddie was ironically one of the easier characters in +R
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>>163237625
That's a better retention rate than SFV.
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>>163237524
cant you goobers just keep your mouth shut I cant read this shit anymore
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>>163237664
link?
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>>163237704
>tfw don't have the fight money for Akuma
>tfw still don't have urien either
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>>163237664
Same logic that fucked USF4 dee Jay, and Honda
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>>163237695
I love how BBCF is, but it's very impenetrable to newcomers
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>>163237695

BB just needs a balance patch to gut the more obnoxious top tiers and CF will be a pretty good game in its own right.
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>>163237574
>but right now Blazblue def requires a higher level of execution
I very highly disagree. BB has longer combos which have more choke points by nature because they're like fucking 3 times longer than GG combos, but because BB has buffers on fucking everything and auto jump installs everything and so on and so forth it's still much easier to do than how strict like almost everything in GG is. A GG combo will only have like one or two major choke points but those points are fucking tight as shit and will force you to drop them if you are even slightly off by a frame or two. Most I-No players have a hard time optimizing that character because her jump cancel stuff is fucking annoying to do, Chipp still has to jump install a lot of things, and you're kinda insane if you think Carl combos are harder than Zato combos.

Also, as for GG being the height of stupid hard bullshit, I would actually tell you to go back to #Reload and try playing it. It's REALLY not a hard game to play. There's some definite strictness and some of the inputs are still obtuse, but it is a way easier game to play than AC is and jumping from Xrd to #R is not all that rough of a change of pace.
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>>163237814
I don't even mind the top-tiers, just get the bottom 5 up to mid-tier level at least and I'd be entirely satisfied.
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>>163237860
Who's harder to play? Carl or Zato?
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>>163237860
t. never used frc in a game
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>>163237963
Zato.
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>>163237898

>Carl
>Jin
>Nine

Yeah nah, I'd like some nerfs please and thank you
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>>163237963
Fucking Zato by a lot.

>>163237972
FRC sucks but they're manageable. Also in #R there are a lot of characters who don't really rely on FRC. Jam has exactly one FRC that matters and you can never do it and still win because Jam is fucking stupid in #R.
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>tfw too honest for ibuki

strange feel
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>tfw i'm about to buy another season pass
please stop me
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>>163237798
t. Mike Ross
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>>163223737
i love smelly vaginas
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>>163238108
t. someone who has no idea what a vagina smells like
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>>163237860
Characters like Rachel are definitely up there with I-No in terms of difficulty if not even higher, even just handling them in neutral and learning their absurdly different confirms is extremely difficult. BB having buffers doesn't matter much for most characters when many characters like Mu-12 or Izanami have specific delays on their combos meaning you can't just mash them out as fast as you want. In Xrd I've never really had as much difficulty in using any character as I have had with multiple ones in BB. The only really hard characters in GG are just Zato, I-No, and Johnny in my opinion.

>>163237963
Zato and Carl have different types of difficulties, since Nirvana acts differently than Eddie even despite their inputs being similar, but Carl is definitely harder.
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>>163238158
wet dank fish?
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>blazbloobers think their game is difficult and get btfo
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>>163238104
>yfw you spend 30 dollars on akuma and 5 characters you know nothing about yet
>yfw you still need to pay the 20 dollars for the holiday bundle

by my calculations, this game has been out for 10 months and has 170 dollars worth of content so far, being the game and all the season passes and bundles so far. not including each individual battle outfit or the halloween skins
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>direct input support
yaaay it only took one year
one more and I'll finally be able to play with keyboard without using crutches
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>>163238174
>Carl
I meant Zato, I my mind was wandering when I wrote that. Zato you have to control Eddie entirely seperately, and while I would say your pressure is easier, you'll get absolutely demolished in neutral as him without full control of what's going on, whereas with Carl you'll at least manage that despite it being relatively worse to the rest of the top-tiers.
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>>163237860
Carl combos are easier to do than Zato combos (I wouldn't say by much but they are) but Carl neutral shenanigans are a lot harder to do than Zatos. At least for me.

#Reload was actually the version I played the most. You couldn't tell me I-No combos now are worse to do than they were then, not with a straight face. That said I played Jam for the most part who was pretty fucking easy and I play Makoto in BB who again is not a hard character so you may still be right about some things.
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>>163238242
Well you don't have to buy the holiday bundle. You only really need the stage.
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>>163238220
>delusional goober
embarassing desu
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>>163238308
>You couldn't tell me I-No combos now are worse to do than they were then
No of course not, but the hard thing about I-No back in the day was Chemical Love because of the fucked input in the strict as dick input interpreter. If #R I-No had QCB Chemical Love she would be just as easy to play if maybe only slightly harder because of general old GG strictness.
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>>163238242
only a problem for those who insist on buying all colors/costumes/stages, which is a fucktarded way of approaching things.
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>>163238382
fair enough. just saying though, sheer amount of currency spendable on this game exceeds 200 dollars

pisses me off even when i haven't bought most of it
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Urien seems to be ridiculous
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>>163238158
but i sniff my vagina all the time
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Would it surprise/ upset you if you found out that it was Capcom's deliberate intention to make Urien overpowered, similar to Yun in SSF4, so that he'll become a 'heel' character?
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>>163238446
see
>>163238468
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>>163238468
Yeah I feel ya dude. I've already wasted my FM on stages and characters and I've bought 3 costumes and Alex with real money. I don't want to spend more but I want to play Akuma and the holiday stage.
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>>163238508
Surprising, no. Upsetting, yes because that's stupid and I have a nemesis that plays Urien and he's already way better than me.
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>>163238431
Agree entirely. The thing is though that old GG did have all the strictness you mention. Thankfully they changed that for both ASW series. They're hard enough for newcomers to get into as it is.
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what returning characters did you want to see anyway? i only care about yun so i was rather pleased with 5 brand new characters. i think sagat and sakura would be a waste of space. i wouldn't mind if fei came back but if one of the five is a rekka character, i wouldn't care.
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>playing odd-numbered Street Fighters
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friendly reminder that Ryu, Ken, Nash, Ibuki, Guile and Mika niggers deserve 0 respect or points
make sure to break the game or use trainers to beat them
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>>163238680
Rose, and Adon. I got into the 'fgc' with SSF4
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>>163238508

what do you mean by heel character?
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>>163238604
>buy season pass for all characters
>only play one of them
>spend all my FM on stages and colors
>no FM for the five BRAND new fighters i know nothing about if i like them

and the worst part is
>still no costumes for rashid birdie fang or bison
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>>163238684
Better than the even ones honestly.

>>163238680
Either world warriors or TS characters. The only SF4 newcomer I liked was gouken.
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>>163238684
but 3s was the best fighting game ever made.
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Im new to using Urien and want to pick him up. What is my go to low chain combo?
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>>163238771
good joke anon
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Is 14 the most accessible KOF?
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>people spend real money on things they can just unlock with in-game currency instead
why
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>>163237616
Blazblue is still rather simple
There are a lot of names for a lot of systems but none of them are "unnecessary" per se
I still think blitz shielding is an odd and unwieldy mechanic

The game balance is pretty good since only 5% are broken good or bad
25/32 being at least playable mid tier to almost godlike is a pretty solid balance effort for an anime game

>>163237860
I disagree in that RCing in GG makes the neutral faster but less intense since whiffing moves can be far less devastating than in BB.
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>>163238870
>spending hours to unlock a character
>realize that character is shit after unlocking
wew lad at least if I buy something I can get a refund
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>>163238817

There are no chains in sfv.

he just has your typical light confirms, into HP headbutt if they're standing or LK/EX shoulder if crouching.
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>>163238870
i make $280k working at my father's contracts firm. you can do things like this when you graduate with a jd.
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>>163238680
I just want someone from Darkstalkers or Rival Schools because then at least I know they'll be a little fucking unique.
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>>163238870
because some things are unlockable ONLY with in game currency and not with real money

thats how they get ya

>>163238680
honda because he got shafted in sfxt, only original character not included in it
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>>163238740
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel_(professional_wrestling)
Basically a character that the crowd can root against.
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>>163238740
I'm a filthy '16er so this was before my time, but in SSF4 (maybe Arcade Edition?) Yun was intentionally made overpowered with the intent of the community banding together to learn how to fight him. This was retarded because people who are playing to win would often rather just play the overpowered character than learn how to fight him with a weaker character.
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>>163238431
its a shame +r didn't implement the frc input buffer from the extra options into the main game.
having a 5 frame window to the frc and your character glowing blue during really lowered the skill barrier.
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https://youtu.be/RJndNtfuE-Q
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>>163239194
is kof 14 still doing that tournament?
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>>163239286
Yes. Grand finals in China.
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>>163239286
Yup

First part is in Tokyo, top 4 is in Beijing
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>>163239356
Why does SNK even try anymore?
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the extra hitstun on crlp means laura can do

cr.lk, cr.lpxxlp elbow right
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>>163239429
Because they care.
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>>163239431
Yes.
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They shoul have put in rollback netcode if they cared so much

Yes I get they are a 'poor' company. It's just I gave them money for a game I can't play multiplayer with.
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Are Fag players just being ignorant to the white health regeneration slowown or something?
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Why the fuck was Alex of all characters nerfed so hard?

This is actually retarded.
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>>163239707
i thought he was buffed?
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>>163239562
>I can't play multiplayer with.
That's quite the exaggeration. It's not the best netcode ever but it's more than functional. It works well enough to get games in with people reasonably close to you. Also, it's less about poor and more that they are totally incompetent when it comes to online modes. This is actually a massive improvement over everything they've ever done before and in that respect is kind of impressive. Still though they don't have the expertise to do good online netcode and might not for some time unless they outsource or hire new blood that are savvy with this stuff.
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>>163239734
I have literally never played a kof with delay netcode

It feels terrible. In fact all ealyfeels terrible unless the input delay in the game is extremely low.

That is not the case in kofxiv.
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>>163239707
He wasn't, Alex players are just whiny.
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so

skimming the thread i take it half the people cant understand how to read patch notes?

>why is ____ nerfed
everyone is nerfed across the board. akuma doesnt seem all that glass considering the universal damage reductions
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>>163239847
>I have literally never played a kof with delay netcode
So you've never played an official SNK port of anything ever then.
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>our boy frionel blowing the FUCK out of atma on twitter

come get your mans, hbr
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>>163238158
and never willl. let me assure you

>>163239645
massive buff imo
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>Removed the 3rd active frame from hitbox
What does it mean?
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>>163239707
>a few normals have an extra frame on them
>just like what happened with everyone else
>cr.hp can actually AA now
>lariat is +6 on hit

you have to be a blathering simpleton to think he was nerfed at all, let alone "so hard"
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https://youtu.be/63PIWEPQcNg

KOF IS HERE AGAIN
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>>163240008
I'm on neither side of that.
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>>163240141
>already slow buttons became slower
>cr.hp was already easy to anti-air with if you weren't a retard
>oh boy but now you can st.mp after lariat wow such a huge buff

You're literally a moron
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>>163240026
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>>163239941
No one cares who you are or what you have to say.
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>>163240253
yeah it was so easy to anti air with that absolutely nobody used it.
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>>163240253
don't forget the elbow being shit now
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>>163240253
an argument with indeterminable variables in it such as "being a retard" makes you sound like a fool

he wasn't nerfed. and i'm only figuratively a moron
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>>163240404
I guess you're one of those retards who had to stick with jab anti-air, moron
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>>163240363
but anon he has a name. he is clearly more important than the rest of us
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>people still had hopes for SFV after Capcom installed a rootkit on everyone
That's it. I'm now convinced this is some advanced form of Stockholm's Syndrome. Snap out of it you fucking tools.
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>>163239734
>It's not the best netcode ever but it's more than functional.

But that's not even true. I live in Estonia, have solid internet and I've played against Altaczz in Fightcade, GG and USFIV with zero issues ever, but when I still played SFV, I used to have to stop lobbies against him because it became unplayable. I've played against local players or very close (Finland/Latvia) with similar issues, it just becomes unplayable at some point.

SFV netcode is overly sensitive and is not able to recuperate when something goes wrong.
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500 entrants for SFV at EVO 2017.

Screencap it.
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>>163240238
You mean i have to pay for that?
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>>163240486
>on everyone

you mean the pc master race :)
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>>163240498
>but when I still played SFV
Eh? I was talking about KOFXIV though.
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>>163240486
shut up goober
>>
>>
I hope this gets people to realize that SFV isn't good. It's just a fighting game called Street Fighter.
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>>163240674
You shit your filthy Goober mouth, SFV is God's gift
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>>163240479
that reply doesn't even make sense

all right see ya later
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>>163240597
Right, nevermind, missed that. So tired of people defending SFV netcode that I see ghosts everywhere.
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>>163240375
This might be the biggest change. If I'm reading it right, light elbow no longer provides safe meaty pressure after throw, which severely weakens his oki, which was one of the few good things the character had going for him.
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>1/2 page dedicated to online/system changes

wheres the part 2 to this im missing a page
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>>163240628
Keep scream goober as you continue to accept Capcom's dick up your nigger ass you sad pathetic tool. Keep defend Capcom. Maybe one day you can fool yourself it's not Capcom that's irreedemable shit, it's just everyone else that's wrong.
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>>163240880
shut up goober
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>>163240648

Are the red and green dots part of the asteroid belt?
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>>163240794
No one cares faggot shut up. Go be an attention whore somewhere else.
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They really didn't do anything for Juri.
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>>163240953
Yes.
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>>163240963
are you retarded
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>>163223737
cummy brown is very fun to use desu
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>>163240963
juri is one of the people who came out as a winner in season 2 changes. i dont think any dlc character was gutted

>inb4alextears
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>>163241032
Sometimes, I wonder about that.
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Literally no point in not dropping this awful genre now.
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>>163240963
Did you not read the notes at all or did you skim through?
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>>163241005

pretty cool senpai
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>>163241037
she's too niggery. got anything lighter?
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>>163236741
invincibility just starts later
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V-Trigger (Yoga Burner):
 The fire carpet now also does damage to downed opponents
 Startup of recoverable damage hitbox is faster

can someone interpret the second point?

are they saying the flame carpet hitbox appears sooner i.e. so you cant v-reversal it?

>carpet does damage OTG

yooo
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>>163241225
who is kuroda
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>>163241230
yeah
recoverable damage hitbox meaning white life damager meaning the fire
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>>163241396
The Q player
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>>163241396
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>>163241396
Your prom date you ugly sack of shit
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new tier rankings when
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>>163241497

looks fucking obnoxious tier:

laura

who the fuck knows tier:

everyone else
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Just release KoF14 PC already. I'm done with this SFV fucking turd. Boring uninspired garbage.
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>>163241230
Oh

fuck that
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I need pictures of LI Joe and Sonicfox cackling.
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>>163241159
you could play MOE Chris Redfield of MOE Wolverine.
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>>163241516
really laura? The stuff that got changed isn't as big as people think. Shes more or less just as obnoxious as shes always been, which considering you playing sim is obnoxious as shit
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>>163241529
With epic KoF netcode it'll be dead on arrival
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>>163241641
oh i've been meaning to masturbate to chris redfield and wolverine

>>163241447
it can prolly still be v reversald tho right
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>>163241516
Pretty much the best teir ranking until s2 tournaments
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>>163241563

first thing im doing when the update drops is checking if gief new lariat beats stretchy limbs on anything other than frame 1 lol
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Who is easy in umvc3
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>>163241780

wolverine/doom/vergil is imo the easiest top tier team in the game
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>>163241780
Wolverine
Captain America
Wesker
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>>163241736
you can vreversal it but the fire stays out

its a cool thing for sim but I feel that most of the time people are going to get out of the fire fast anyway
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RIKUO FOR MARVEL INFINITE
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so there are no ba female characters in sfv

lets see if you guys get it
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Ryu got nerfed to kingdom come
Birdie is dead
Karin got better
Bison got better
Urien is fucking godlike
Cammy is a monster

This shit is dumb
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bison is finally good again
street fighter is saved
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>>163241941
>ba
>Bare Assed
Mika.
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>>163241989

Birdie is far from dead, Karin also didn't really get better. The argument is definitely there to say she's been nerfed a bit.
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Don't mind me just killing off fighting games for good
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>Been playing SFV since February
>Still can't beat Ryus
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. Am I too predictable? Are their buttons better?
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Night Nurse confirmed for MVCI when?
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>>163241989
>Cammy is a monster
I only saw nerfs,
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Who will Daigo will play now that Ryu is now top 5
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>>163241996

>People actually think Bison is going to be good

God... It's just like when the game came out, you didn't listen then and now they won't listen again.

Bison will be solid mid-tier at best. Most of his core fundamental problems continue to exist.
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>>163242095
are you actually thinking? Like actively weighing pros and cons? Do you know what his options are when he does something
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>>163242086
More like saving. The FGC wouldn't exist without capcom.
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>>163241872
can we have felicia instead
rikuo is gay
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>>163242086
Is there a version on Sol uppercutting the Arc system works logo?
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>>163241989
>ryu nerfed to kingdom come
?????????

did you mean shoryuken?
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>>163242105
well look again
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>>163241516
Urien too.
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>>163242182

i've got this from the old /asg/ days

best i can do for ya
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̵̣̮̟̱͈̞̣̼̦̰̭͚̖͍̮̥͕̗͊̈́̒͒̐̔̀͠͝
̴̢̢͖͙͙͎̳͙̹̦̙̝̠ͪͫͨ̌ͬ͐ͨ̅͆̄̾͜
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Now that Mika is dead, who will take her place?
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>>163242226
Still see nerfs,
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>>163242172
FGC =/= Fighting games

All Capcom does is support the 1% ESPORTS crowd while leaving the 99% to fend for themselves. This is not surprising when the people making the game are esports players and not actual videogame developers.
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>>163242107
no, he will play evil ryu (confirmed for season 2)
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>>163241529
>kof14
>inspired
its just the same shit all over again
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>>163242279

laura
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S2 seems all around worse than S1 going by these changes

Fuck Capcom, SF is dead thanks to eSports
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>>163242297
Dunno m8, I'm playing SFV casually with a friend and its loads of fun.

I hope you dont think that the other 99% are fucktards who exclusively play single player shit.
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>>163242279
Nigga the new season hasn't started yet, at least give her time to have her ass knocked down a peg.
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Why did Ryu get nerfed on top of the universal changes?
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Since people are scared of laura let me hook you guys up with some sick shit

Learn the jump tech os and just use it if shes close

If laura has a bar and you block st.mp or st.hp v-reversal 100% of the time

SWEEP HER WHEN SHE IS DOING FIREBALL. GIEFS CAN st.HK HER IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT

OVERHEAD IS -9 GET THOSE BIG PUNISHES

BUTTONS INTO COMMAND DASH AREN'T REAL PRESS BUTTONS
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>>163242568

Because he was fucking retarded.

despite having 1000 health he still had one of the most comprehensive toolkits in the entire game with arguably the best damage in the entire game. His normals were retardedly fast as well. 5 frame MP, 7 FUCKING frame sweep. Character was retarded.
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>>163242575
Buttons into command dash is real in S2
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>>163242671
nope
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>>163242646
dont forget the ebin j.lk that ignored anti airs because they forgot to add a hurtbox to it.
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>>163242051

Karin main opinion:
The ability to combo out of air to air gives her a gameplan for jump ins now which she sorely needed.
That said, she's less safe on block in general. Standing medium kick from 0 to -2 hurts her but hopefully as long as you space it to max range it's still pretty safe.
The reduced knockback on crush counter for st.hk is nice for when you don't have v-trigger, meaning she can finally get a bit more out of that.
In general she got a lot of 10/20 damage nerfs.
They really just don't want you using qcb.mk straight up.
Seems to be a bit more reward on landing some of her stuff, meter wise and more damage on her rekkas.

I dunno honestly. They covered one of her biggest problems, but knocked her damage and made her a bit less safe. Overall I'd say, without having played her yet, that the changes will alter how she's played a bit but with a bit of adjustment I don't think it'll be a huge nerf. Could be a bit weaker or a bit better depending on how you play her?
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>those cammy buffs for no reason whatsoever
JUST

I wish kof14 had a healthy player population
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How many SF5 players does it take to change a lightbulb?
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>reduce input lag
>everyones gonna be slower across the board
holy fucking crayola are you shitting me cuckcom
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>>163242793

I feel like an air-to-air is not a big enough equalizer for her other buffs. But I do believe they gave her 50 health which is a pretty great buff.
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>>163242646
>no Ryu top 8 Evo
>no Ryu top 16 Capcom Cup
>despite the two best 2D FG players of all time maining Ryu
explain this
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We need 3D fighters back more than ever. Capcom's cancer is killing 2D.
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>>163242825

>People complain you can't whiff punish in SFV for shit
>They make numerous changes to make it so you can, such as reducing input delay and adding more frames to moves
>FUCK YOU CAPCOM DO SOMETHING RIGHT!

Every time.
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>>163242883
sfv is kusoge
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>>163242883

Tokido is the ultimate choke artist and Daigo is going through another phase of being an A tier player instead of an S tier player.
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>>163242838

Well before air to air was her most reliable option but if you went air to air every time they land you'd get 50/50 grab or DP so it wasn't exactly a great thing. I think the reason for the st.mk nerf is because you have a reliable way to keep them from jumping over you constantly so if st.mk was too safe and easy you could just pin them in the corner and air to air them every time they tried anything with impunity.
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>>163242903
you make whiff punishing easier by adding more whiff recovery to normals, not adding more startup.
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>>163242883
daigo made top 16
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>>163242802
kof generally has much more broken shit and bigger discrepancies between characters.
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Reminder that our guy Max hates the idea of making fighters "accessible"
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I'm confused. Is the S2 patch live now? I'm not at home so can't check. I thought it was coming later.
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>>163243036
He's pretty good. The fact that Neofaggers hate him is even better.
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Balrog's screw smash being a DP motion is going to be so powerful if EX still has armor
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>>163243013

Not necessarily, clearly. I'm glad you're not the one balancing if you think a blanket rule like that should be applied.
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>>163243036
The rest of that video was weird but I liked him talking on that point. The comment section is great for it too cause they have no idea what they are talking about so they don't know if they agree or disagree
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>>163243148
>make normals have MORE startup
>that makes whiff punishing easier

I'm sure itll be easier to whiff punish with Ryu's new 8f sweep than trying to whiff punish with his old 7f sweep.
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>>163243031
I don't disagree, but it's been a fun game to learn while being continually burned out from SFV.
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So...Karin fucking nerfed to hell?

Just when she finally gets a good costume?

Is this game even worth playing?
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>notable gorilla normals are deleted
the jab anti air does not seem universal which is confusing unless they did not specifically mention it for all characters. jumping seems worse/fair(?)
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Vesper said Chun's health was decreased to 875, I don't see any mentions of it anywhere in the patch notes, was he lying? Or is the final build different from that leaked build?
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>>163243350

She's not nerfed to hell. They gave her a few significant improvments and a bunch of small down tweeks.
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THIS GAME SUCKS
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>>163243417
>Or is the final build different from that leaked build?
ding ding
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I'm glad I'm not a Birdie player anymore...
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>>163243079
lol why do they hate him?
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>>163243435
suxx*
which game anon
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>>163243163

Which video is this anyway? I vaguely remember him putting out something about that some months back.
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>>163243350
>Is this game even worth playing
It never was.
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>>163243606
because he is the wielder of the fabled nigger dagger
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>>163243754
>>163243754
>>163243754
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Did they seriously remove invincible reversals from half the cast?
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Put Superior Spider-ma or at least his Costume in MvCi
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melee
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>>163242297
You can't and shouldn't try to balance for bronze. As a silver my input is entirely irrelevant. Only good players have any sort of relevant opinion on balance.
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/akuma/ when?
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>>163235657
you forgot a bunch of shit

>less range on overhead
>slower startup on st.mk and cr.mk (his best pokes)
>forward hp even more punishable on block now
>HP reduced by 25

even if you disregard the fat damage nerfs that hit at least half his moves - his neutral game got destroyed super hard, and i don't understand why the fuck they did it.
>never played in tournaments
>rarely played online
>most people rated him a mediocre character at best
birdie was not even close to being overpowered. he wasn't even a strong character. why the fuck did they nerf him into the ground?
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>>163228459
Dr doom
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