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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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Conceded >>163167236
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This thread is a bully-free zone. Think twice before hitting the post button.
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first for eris is my waifu
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>>163206317
Luna is for bullying....using a dick!
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*roars*
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This is now an arisa thread
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>>163206317
Ok. fag
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R-Rowen

What are you doing
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> people ranting about direct translations being wrong

RUB A DUB DUB THANKS FOR THE GRUB
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>>163206447
Serpent force?
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>>163206317
Attention EOPs.
Everyone should play on the Japanese client using Japanese voices.
I will not approve of you otherwise.
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>open fully animated pack
>shit like always
just kill me
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>>163206516

n-no he just threw down a siegfried now

ROWEN STOP
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>>163206570
Rowen finally lost it, concede before he can, safe him
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>>163206031
no, they're two different people
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11914883
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>>163206281
Topical picture OP
>Be this anon >>163202548
>Got that Tsubaki from a Take Two pack
>Have 400 gold, decided to blow it on standard packs
>Get this in one of the packs and a few golds in another one
I just need three Otomemes and another two Aurelias and I'm set for Midrange Sword.
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>>163206615

He ended by evolving a hydra and only attacking once..


I almost wanna concede for this guy
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>79 losing streak
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>>163206281

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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>>163206720
pick one leader and play him only, stop switching
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>>163206718
put him on 1 hp and concede
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>>163206718
>>163206615

Okay Rowen.. thats it...
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>>163204257
That's not an argument, I'm afraid. Please insert a coin to continue.
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>>163206647
Honestly when I first read Witchy Duo I thought it was referring to her and her guitar, as in musical duet. It's not that far fetched for her to have a magical soul imbued guitar.
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>>163206776
Wait, why is that not in the OP?
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>>163206720

that's not possible cmon
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>wake up
>can't wake up
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>>163206895
>Wake up
>RoB is not out
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>>163206861
>shitters spamming rob pics
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>>163206447
>h-hear the dragon's roar
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>>163206861
I didn't even notice it was gone. Who cares.

>>163206895
>>163206996
Dumb Nicoposter.
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tfw constructed take two
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had a terrible losing streak with my face dragon netdeck and i made my own midrange-controllish dragon deck and i'm actually doing well
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>>163206281
>Win 6-9 games
>Lose 1 gam
>Repeat
I can't stop winning! Erika a best! I love Erika!
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>>163207116

post it
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>craft cerebus set
>instantly regret it

maybe shadowcraft will be good next expansion.
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>>163207070
Someone obviously does when people keep noticing it's not in the OP.
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>Arena
>no 2 drop
>no 3 drop
>concede
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>>163207218
at the very least it will be the most fun class
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>>163206892
probably sandbagging
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>>163206447
>tempo zero attack 3 drop
Uh huh, I see.
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>>163207253
Seems like it's just one guy every other thread getting mad about it to me.
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>>163206557
I wish I had most of these honestly.
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someone post the PPAP parody with ringon and satan
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>>163206895
>>163206996
Get ready Nico-chan! You need your beauty sleep!
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>>163207253
Do you mean (You)? Nobody asked anything until you brought it up, like every thread. It is the same with the "akin to crapstone" nonsense, you really want it in the OP for some particular reason.
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Can Marlin find spellboost followers?
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>>163207016
>shitters spamming rob pics
>when they usually only get posted like 4 times per thread and in direct relation to the topic at hand

What the actual fuck did he mean by this?
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>>163207569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=973hR9z73So
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Reminder to praise dingdong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlr_zBGzi_Y
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>>163207197
this is in A0, deck's something like this
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.62sZ2.62sZ2.62sZ2.5_394.5_394.5_394.62sZq.62sZq.62sZq.62sac.62sac.62sac.62xRY.62xRY.62xRY.62vkA.62vkA.62vkA.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.66gi2.66gi2.66gi2.5_4sI.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.66j8S.62zty.62zty.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_4sS.5_5bA.5_5bA.62xSA.62xSA
but i have a genesis dragon in there so something's off
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>>163207679

read the card
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>>163207218
You mean the expansion after RoB correct?
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>>163207691
Mad HSbabies.
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We MUST wipe clean the vile stench of the sub-human brood's taint. They must all die. All of them. ALL of them! Let not one stand! Let their lesser blood drain into the dirt and filth of the earth where it belongs!
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I'm a whale with pretty much all cards and 18 complete decks
Gonna be a living hell to arrange them all for the expansion, though a few of mine are still pre-DE and works fine
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>>163207731
Why?
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Will the memes rise on the 29th, /svg/?
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>>163206281
My wife, do not touch.
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>>163207218
RoB ain't saving shadow either, sadly.

But control shadow is still a fun deck to play.
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>>163207947
Will Atome be like Mordecai?
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>>163207731
>>163207739

any ringon touhou remixes?
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>>163206417
>master
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>Play private match against friend who refuses to undub
>His leader, Forte the Dork Dragoon, says stuff in english through my game
Huh?
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>>163207947
Memes will raise sky high
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>>163207969
She has a boyfriend.
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>>163207902
where did word whale come from? i know it meaning in the context of spending cash money but why?
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>>163207969
I wouldn't touch that walking pile of STDs even with a ten-foot pole.
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>>163207969
Go back to bed Gert
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>>163207474
It's a useful resource to have, especially during these card previews when you can't see the evolved art yet unless you find the corresponding Rage card.

>>163207670
I'm not him, and I also care, so there goes your argument.

>>163207815
Nice strawman, I guess? This barely deserves a (You). It's not for custom card crap, it's for seeing the art of shit that's not in the game yet, like any evolved Rise of Bahamut card. It's also so you can see shit that isn't in the game yet that eventually will be, but last I checked nobody's shitting about going "here's my waifu card and I want her to be a 4-mana 8/8 with storm and she can attack twice and it's great and balanced lol"

>>163207849
At this point I believe it, there's no rational reason for these people to be this angry about a resource you can just choose to ignore.
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Aurelia is my tough, competent and protective wife who will defend me from danger!
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>>163208030
This isn't memes. That's just cancer.
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do doujins of erika getting matingpressed by orcs exist yet?
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>>163208030
>Execute on empty board
>Odin
heh.....
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>>163207815
>shitposting this vehemently
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>>163208098
Amelia is pure.

>>163208129
>It's a useful resource to have
That only one person, you, uses or even notices is gone actually.

Not sure why you're being so autistic.
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Why does she look like a dwarf?
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>>163208081
Think about it.
You're big, strong and nothing can touch you because you've spend so much money.
You just chill around in the game water and eat the smaller plankton.

Originally it's a casino term where they would want to "fish" the biggest guy and get all their money hence whale.
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>>163208162
Your wife is in love with a Japanese high-school aged sword
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>yfw when you had a lethal but you're too retarded to count
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>>163208268
Thats a big horse
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>tfw forced to play aggro if I want to keep a 50% win ratio as shadow
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>>163208162
Floral Fencer Aurelia and Halloween Aurelia when?
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>>163208242
>every person that disagrees with me is actually just one person

Stop this meme, how hard do you think I'm samefagging? I'm not even the person that brought it up in this thread, so either get an actual argument or fuck off.
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>>163208268
no bully short people
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>>163207878
I stand with this man and YOU all MUST do the same. We cannot shy away from the threat at our doors
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>>163208341
Nooooobooooodyyyy caaaaaareeees.
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>>163208242
>he thinks only one person uses it
You have no proof either way, HScuck.
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>>163208341
So what, it's you and one other guy in a thread of 160 people that even notices to shitpost over it?

In the interest of thread quality I'm going to stop giving you (You)s now. Have a nice day.
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>>163208081
because you're a big catch
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>>163208396
>if i say it enough time's it'll be true!

Fuck off with your tumblr-tier comebacks.
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So basically blood is getting all the good cards from RoB.

Control blood will be automatic tier1.
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>>163208282
thanks for clearing that up
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>>163208268
159cm iirc according to Granblue but they aren't exactly great with keeping things consistent see Forte
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>>163208396
But people obviously do care otherwise we wouldn't be having this shitshow.
>>163208498
I hope you stub your toe before going to sleep.
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>Moon Al-Mi'raj didn't get the alternate art
FUCK,, BUNNIES ARE BETTER
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https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0047

wow...I hope they compensate with at least 10 free packs!
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>>163208421
He can't be an HScuck since the gradeschooler jab at /hsg/ is still in the OP. There's been a few people who wanted to take it out anyways.
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Stories to tell
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>>163208571
free packs?
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>>163208548
>People
>Two people in a thread of 160
W E W
E
W

>>163208571
Where have you been? We don't get free packs for maintenance anymore.
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>>163208543
RoB and granblue Forte are different characters
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>>163208162
Are you of good moral standing and willing to fight against the demon horde?

>>163208367
not until cygames fixes their mistake
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>one card in a forty card deck
>over three games draw that one card in my opening hand

loving this rng
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>>163207969

Why flaunt her around then?
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>>163208620
This is a reliable card you idiot
And the core of the deck you will be bitching about the most when the expansion comes out.
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>>163208694
We never got packs for regular meintenance
We get packs for emergency or very prolonged maintenence
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>>163208498
>implying we're the ones shitposting over it

One guy posted the sites as a reply to the OP, then you fucks started sperging out over how it doesn't need to be there. Why does it have to be a fight at all? It's not in this thread's OP this time, okay, fine, so why does it send your ass into orbit when it gets posted in the thread at all? What the fuck is your problem?

>>163208694
>my argument that everyone I dislike is one person didn't work, so now I'm gonna say there's only two of them! That'll show 'em!

You might as well be tripfagging with how obvious your posts are, I'm not giving you another (You) after this one.
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>>163206720
Quit playing already
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Jog my memory /svg/...

Did we get free packs on DE launch?
Did Arena switch to DE pack rewards for a bit on DE launch?
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>>163208341
>>163208839
Mene, you can google that shit if you want. These sites aren't some obscure shit.
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>play aggro
>match against control
>play control
>match against dshift
i just need 7 wins. that's all. i've been playing for nearly an hour
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>>163208762
She'll be a dead card if you get DShift/flame destroyer in your hand though. I'm actually curious as to how spellrune will handle her inconsistency.

>>163208839
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag
Irony.
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>>163208901
we got 10 DE packs
no
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Why do I only run into moonrune guys with a jap flag playing this game, regardless of time?
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>>163208976
Hikkis
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3 mana neutral
Destroy a amulet
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>>163208326
>Floral Fencer Aurelia
I'd love to see how OP they would make this card.
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>>163208956
>Playing Daria in dshift
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>>163207969
Why would you play this instead of Courageus Knight?
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>>163208795
>We never got packs for regular meintenance
Actually we did, but it was before your time.
Then they just stopped doing it when the game launched on Steam.
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>>163208956
>playing her with dshift
If you brick your hand because you're retarded that's nobody's fault but yours.

She'll be run in aggro spellboost rune.
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>>163208762
Pretty sure the core still remains Merlin and Flame Destroyers. And boy will people bitch about those turn 5 Flame Destroyers when Rune actually had a board to contest with before they hit.
>>163208956
She'd not a Dshift card. She's an aggro card and will refill your hand once you dumped it all on the board.
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>>163208901
Yes 10
Only during an event a month later
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>>163208976

because the game is very popular in Japan
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>>163209069
i miss the free stuff from the beta
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>Replay function to view previous matches
We're getting this in the next patch on the 28th. Does this mean we'll be getting match history + stats along with replays?

Its one of the few things I've missed from HS, no Trackobot automatic match tracking
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>>163209050
>Aggro rune meme
We'll see how well that deck works out.
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>>163209126
Merlin doesn't fetch followers.
Destroyers might be too slow.
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>>163208903
And you can just ignore it if you want, what's your point? It's been there for months, and people have liked it being there the entire time up until now. You want it out of the OP? You make the thread. The rest of us will include it, because we're not as fuckin' needlessly petty as you apparently are.

>>163208956
>I call out one guy who keeps being a retard
>"that means you think everyone who disagrees is the same person! Hypocrite!"

No shit there's more than one of you shitposting like mad, here's your last (You), too. None of this matters anyway, the sites'll be back in the OP in a thread or two and none of you will care, because the people who don't use it won't notice and the people who do use it will enjoy it.
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>>163209205
Some Japanese autist actually got to masters with a weird aggro rune deck during DE which means it was already borderline decent (though not good by any means).

Now that they are introducing like a dozen spellboost based followers and that bullshit face damage rune spell it almost seems like an inevitability.
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>>163209364
>here's your last (You),
Holy shit.

>>163209384
>Some Japanese autist actually got to masters
To be perfectly fair, you can get to Masters with nearly any deck as long as you grind hard enough and it's not completely garbage and janky. IIRC someone got to Master purely with Dirt Rune too.
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Nerfs are here.

Elana -> 5PP
Aria -> 4PP
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>>163209364
The rest of us who?
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>>163209549
I want to believe.
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>>163209549
Source it
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>>163209549
>otohime is now 8 mana
>aurelia no longer gains spellshield

HOLY SHIT 20K FREE VIALS
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>>163209064
Hard to say how the meta will develop, if you will often be in a position where they have 3 followers it's a 3/4+3/2 vs 2x2/2. Even if they don't getting a 2/2 into your hand is not terrible.

I think it's more of a conflict with Aurelia though.
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>>163209064
Because 3/4+3/2 with ward>2x 2/2.
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>>163209549
aw shit! TIME TO BUY 100000 ELENAS TO RESELL THEM
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>>163209549
>lying on the internet
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this is fucking ridiculous how i queue into my counters every time. i hate this rock paper scissors shit so much
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>>163209364
>>163209510
I'm all up for the RoB card links so that's at least 3
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>>163209549
Anon you have to make it believable.
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Ways to imrpove my memecraft?
Aside from getting an extra ancient elf and tia
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>>163209687
queue'd into dshift for the 3rd time in a row. i'm just going to concede against all tits from now on, i don't have the time for this shit
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>>163209687
>im bad
>i blame the matchmaking for it
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>>163209687
>>163209804
if you pay for crystals, cygames reduces your chances of queuing into your counters
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>>163209808
yeah i'm bad for queuing into dshift literally 90% of the time i play as control, sure was outskilled there i guess
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>>163209282
Just use RBS instead, ez
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>>163209549
>mfw this is true
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>watching RoB anime because of expansion to shitty cardgame I like

It's pretty cool tho, I like cheesy fantasy
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>>163209549

Vials are Ether in the Japanese version?

That's kinda cool.
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>>163209907
>playing control
you deserve it
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>>163210024
i played aggro for 30 minutes and queued into nonstop control, so i switched
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>>163209792
drop this demonic strike
>>163209957
You forgot to say Favaro!!!
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>>163209957
It's miles better than the average anime garbage
There's like a couple good shows a season and it was one of them.
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>>163209549
Honestly I'll be a bit sad if Aria's pp cost gets increased. Because I won't be able to bounce it with Kaleido anymore.
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>>163209549
The japanese checks out but I'll need a source on this.
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>>163209792
>animated Tia
jelly
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>>163185697->

learn to 4chanz test
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>>163210191
it was one of my first legos
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>>163210126
>ftw granblue anime will be garbo compared to snb genesis
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E-easy dailies right?
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why are you not running execution and shitting on elanacucks /svg/?
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>>163210279
make welfare face dragon

just replace the fortes with seabrand dragons
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HAHAHA I GOT PRANKED
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>>163210279
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>>163209549
Post source even though it's probably fake
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>>163210279
>is my deckbuilding the problem?
>no it's the dragons fault
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>>163209549
This would kill aria forever (rip), but elana's would still be usable.
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>>163210375
>5 pp to remove a 3 pp amulet
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>>163210279
Let them hear your [ROAR] anon
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>>163210375
>execution
>5 PP
>elena
>3 PP

gee

i wonder why
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>>163210375
>Implying I don't petrify it when that's their only play turn 3
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>>163210375
only retards play tech cards
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>>163210476
a disgusting amulet worth the 5 PP though
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>>163210279

winning 3 as haven and 4 as shadow is totally doable

sorry about the other dead daily, though
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>>163210547
and what are you going to do about the elena boosted followers?
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>>163210547
A lot of the time, spending turn 5 doing nothing but removing it is not worth it
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Do you have to manually change your leader for the same craft every time or can you set one for specific decks?
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This week's Top 5 Strongest Decks

>Aggro Forest (58.33%)
>Tempo Forest (53.51%)
>Midrange Sword (53.43%)
>Seraph Elana Haven (52.54%)
>Face/Aggro Dragon (52.54%)
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>>163210653
>all those cards in the next expansion PERFECT for aggro forest

WE FORESTVERSE NOW BABBY
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>>163210653
Why is every streamer I watch that's somewhere at the top of the ranking playing DShift or PtP Forest then?
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>>163210653
>Aggro forest
How???
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Friendly reminder that forest and haven did nothing wrong

Sword is the only retardedly broken class in the game

>no bad matchups
>just clear the board xD
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>>163210653
>'''aggro'''
>it's just tempo forest with goblins

lol
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Forest is gonna be in a real bad way come this xpac.

They're barely getting anything outside of maahes and white wolf, but it's gonna be free token clear for days for most of the other decks.

But it looks like it's gonna be a good time to be blood.
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Post'em
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>>163210832
Because the most popular decks aren't necessarily the strongest.

Top 5 Popular Decks

>Midrange Sword (15.64%)
>D-Shift Rune (11.98%)
>Purgatory Forest (10.87%)
>Garuda Haven (10.35%)
>Tempo Forest (5.31%)
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>>163210953

>lily is a bad card meme

(you)
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Why does Shadowverse have so few neutral cards and why are most of them straight up inferior to class-specific cards?

I feel like Goliath, for example, should be buffed to 4/4 or 3/5 so that he'd become a meaningful card that you'd actually consider using. As is, he offers the same stats as many 4pp followers, but has no effect. I also think Fighter should be a 2/3
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>>163210906
kill yourself
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>>163211058
Why would they not play the best decks in top 10
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>>163211116
I want you to think about what you just said.
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>>163211159
Did you ever think they might find those decks fun
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>>163211194
nigga please, he´s right about the neutral cards feeling rather underpowered
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>>163211232
>fun
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What's the point of this card

Not even good in arena since the number of neutral cards you can get there is quite limited
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>>163211116
This is cool but if neutral cards where like that everyone would run them and the there be no class identity.

Just take a look how DoD is used in every aggro/aggresive deck.
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>>163211159
Because they aren't as fun?
I mean face dragon is just a worse version of midrange sword.
If you want to play a midless play on curve deck you might as well play sword instead of dragon.
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>>163210279
>Dragon is bad in arena
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>>163211280
Think about why they're underpowered. Think about why giving everyone access to something that's straight up better than class specific options is bad.
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>>163211280
it's almost as if these basic cards were designed to be weak on purpose.
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>>163211021
tfw can't name decks until i get the cards for them
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>>163211232
I guess how strong they are doesn't matter that much then if you can get first in the ranking with weaker decks.
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>>163211110
Lily is interesting and 6pp almost-banish +2/2 is good tempo-wise, but there's better shit to play on turn 6, her big thing is being reusable with bounce, but there's better shit to bounce.
She's great against shadow, and if neptits shadow becomes big, she'll definitely see play.

But the problem is there are just much better 6pp plays for Forest.
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>spam "hear the dragon roar" before doing lethal
>faggot dcs
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>>163211420
>>163211429
they dont need to be worse, just viable options
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>>163211340
stfu, cuck
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>>163211436
>teenage
not even anon
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>>163211021
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>>163211159

Because you get tired of playing extremely one-dimensional (get the joke?) decks, and want something that have more options, win conds or simply a more varied gameplay overall.

People who are intelligent wont ever fucking play aggro bats for 1000 games even if it had 0,1% winrate, they would bore themselves to death.

>b-but being intelligent means you do the logical thing and use the best decks

No, intelligent people want to be stimulated above all in the end.
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>>163211420
>access to something that's straight up better than class specific
Nigga nobody would run fucking goliath over class specific turn 4 evos (for example) even if he was 4/4, or any other turn 4 followers with whatever class specific effects. But at the very least he wouldn't be a card that you literally shouldn't use, ever, in 100% of situations.
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Can I play a good Aggro Blood deck in RoB without having to put these neutral cards that feel weak into the deck?
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>>163211420
Doesn't have to be so cut and dry. Neutral cards can be statistically strong or have universally useful, but underwhelming abilities (like Bellringer's draw 1 card) while class unique cards can have abilities that synergize well with their class abilities or other class cards.
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>>163211669
But then he'd be a neutral Death Dragon
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kill the elves nano
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>>163211668
Intelligent people wouldn't be playing a children's card game to begin with. Damn nerds.
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>>163211021
I've been playing for a week, and I need two Aurelias and three Otohimes to complete the midrange deck. If they do get nerfed then I'll try something else out, like dirt rune.
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>>163211669
Death Dragon already exists as a 4/4 for 4, Goliath's purpose is to be the basic average that gets replaced by better cards.
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Reminder to remove all elfposters
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>>163211560
no they dont, its why classes have their own cards you brain dead piece of shit
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>>163211828

Believe it or not, this is not always the case.

There are many intelligent people who play games that are also designed to be played by children.
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>>163211907
>insults
whever you say kiddo
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>>163211953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHclWPVij0
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>>163211738
This is what Hearthstone does and it has fuck all class diversity (and the recent expansion only made that worse).
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>>163211560
You're a faggot Rasmus.
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>>163212002
>post-RoB Dirtrune vs any non-PtP Forest.mp4
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>tfw someone floods the board with subhumans near you
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>>163212116
fuck off magica, go gas some jews
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After not getting 5-0 for the longest time, got 3 in a row today. Feels good. Gonna sleep well tonight.
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>>163212057
Did the new expansion fuck Hearthstone up even more? Someone who plays both games please enlighten me
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>3 hours without anyone wanting me to concede
>tfw only get 12 concedes today
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>>163212235
why dont you just go to hsg?
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>>163211592
Looks teenage
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>>163211021
I really want to try playing sword or forest decks but two months into this and I can count my relevant sword and forest golds and legos on one hand.

Cygames does not want me to have nice things.
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>>163212340
Its pretty dead
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>>163212304
lmao cuck
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>>163212128
Dirtrune going full dwarfcraft when
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I SAY HEAR THE

YOU SAY
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this Envybae girl is breddy good
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>Winning against blood
>He drops this fat fuck and starts healing for 4 every round

DELETE THIS FUCKING CARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163212562
>girl
oh man
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>>163212057
Hearthstone also has more classes than /svg/ which means even with this process, classes in Shadowverse should remain more unique and diverse compared to Hearthstone.
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>>163212527
[roar]
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>>163212562
>Envybae
>watching a niggress
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>>163212605
How can lowdefencefags even compete
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I have Forest dailies to complete and I haven't touched the class since finishing story mode. How's something like this? I have a Rose Queen and one PtP I could put in, but I don't know if they'd be very useful.
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>>163212605
>letting him get into vengeance
your fault shitter
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>>163211021
I'm about to delete Elana and Seraph Elana decks. They're just unfun. Thinking about a Ramp/Storm-Ramp Dragon Deck and working on a Tempo Forest deck.
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>>163212723
at least she explains shit, every streamer of shadowverse i watches can't communicate
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>>163212562
She was the one that was brought in as an emergency commentator during the garbage stream yesterday, right? I was pleasantly surprised with how competent she was. Way better than the braindead asian that kept going 'j-jk ;)))' when he outed himself as a retard every 5 minutes but that's not much of a bar to surpass.
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>>163212865
Anon dragon is even less fun
I don't recommend it.
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>>163212886
she just called reddit retards. maybe she isn't all bad
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>>163212886
>>163212889
>she
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>>163212926
I l-like Dragon!
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>>163212661
I don't care about her skin,I saw like 10 niggers in my entire life and they don't intimidate me.
she is in master that's all that matters.
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anyone know if my account will be safe if i reinstall the game
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>>163212886
>control blood deck called "I fucking hate myself"
>emoticon on the end

So close but so far...
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Bane?
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>>163213027
Yes but until cygames sees fit to give dragon usable card draw it will just be a "play shit on curve and hope you don't brick" deck.
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>>163212990
are you implying that she has a dick?
4chan should adore her then
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>>163213161
He's a tranny. He talked about his hormone therapy once on stream.
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>>163211316
...honestly, if you get like two of these up, you get an insane value engine considering a lot of neutrals draw more cards.

Uriel, Goblin Mage, Teena, Bellringer, Raiza. Being able to permanently keep a 4/2 carrot or 3 of them on the board would be insane.

A neutral deck might really be feasible with this thing. It's literally banner for neutral.
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>>163213230
i saw 0 trannies in my entire life
i don't fucking care
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>>163213230
>He
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at what rank does banner become bad? because i'm at A0 and it's still the only deck i consistently gain rank with instead of queuing into counters over and over and getting slapped back down
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>>163213313
>delete this
why do people do this
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>>163212723
So it's a tranny and a nigger?
Oh man
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>>163213302
>It's literally banner for neutral.
Doesn't buff followers on the turn it's played.
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>>163213375
never
where there are havenhags, banner thrives
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>>163213441
>>>/pol/
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>last bronze card for shadow is zombie pirate
>no spookie cuties

I died a little inside.
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>>163213375
>at what rank does banner become bad?
This is a meme. Banner's winrate stays almost the same at all ranks (this is because you will face haven and dshift at all ranks)
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>>163213441
Just look at the vods. Just some chubby white dude.
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>>163213509
I'm more disappointed that the last shadow card sucks.

Oh well, it got some real nice looking cards.
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Quick, /svg/! Post your RoB theorycraft list.
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GIVE ME MORE DECK SLOTS.

I'LL FUCKING PAY CASH FOR MORE DECK SLOTS AAAAAA.
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>this nigger manage to buff remi to 10/8 and 2 6/6 ward but i manage to kill it with urn + silent rider
>tfw reaper
>mfw i use discard counsel and fucked myself

JUST KEK MY SHIT UP

I dont even think he realize i had no cards left.
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>>163213665
40 bellringer angels
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>>163213665
>3x insight
>3x angelic snipe
>3x craig, wizard of mysteria
>3x levi
>2x kaleido glow
>3x conjure golem
>3x wind blast
>3x clarke, arcane scholar
>3x witchete emmyou
>3x piercing rune
>3x fates hand
>3x ogler
>2x lightning shooter
>3x dorothy

rate
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>>163213665
3x neptits
3x mordecai
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>>163213786
remove elf
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>>163213809
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.
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>>163213926
E R A S E D
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>>163213665
Discard dragon
aim is to deck yourself out by turn 7.
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>>163213926
>implying
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>>163213489
>le pol boogeyman
back2reddit
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>>163213926
Japanese moot doesn't care
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>>163213926
just hope next trend will be chopping your head off
>>
83602

Concede please, happy holidays.
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>>163213926
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>>163213926
Fuck off, nigger.
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>>163214069
>le reddit meme strawman
Consider suicide
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>>163214015
>Turn 7
Your list is shit if you haven't decked out by turn 6.
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How good is Seraph in Take 2?
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>>163214159
>You share a thread with frogposters
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Where did all the Elana faggots disappear to in A rank?

I've done my dailies for the last couple days and its just endless Elves
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>>163214262
It's okay. It can be hard to find a time to put it down at that stage of the game and still have enough steam to either stall or count it down. I'd rather go with a safer lego pick, but I've had some decent runs using it.
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>>163214356
Proceed to remove elfs
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Is there some kind of guide for playing tempo elf and other somewhat difficult decks?
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>>163214472
I'll start with their clothing.
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>>163213665
3x Goblin
3x Valkyrie's Spear
3x Unica
3x Bellringer
3x Sektor
3x Goblin Mage
3x Khaiza
2x Uriel
3x Teena
3x Feena
3x Lucius
1x Call of Cocytus
1x Sahaquiel
2x Odin
2x Olivia
1x Satan
1x Bahamut

Pure neutral list.
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>>163214547
Get to A rank or up, let a few elves ram their deck up your anus and you will come to understand the playstyle.
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>>163214472
Since the elf males have a low sex desire elf women are sex predators that love human cock
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>>163214547
Tempo Elf is actually very straight forward, not just compared to PtP but compared to a lot of decks.

NA resources suck but GameAi has play guides on some decks if you can read it or decipher Google translate.
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>>163214593
Thats not a lot of removing, anon
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>playing T2
>Rowen conflagrations my board once
>"Oh, there's no way he would have drafted two of them let alone have another one in his hand."
>drop Otohime
>he plays another conflagration

What the fuck.
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>>163213665
2PP x2 Bellringer Angel
2PP x3 Valkyrie's Spear
2PP x3 Unicorn Dancer Unica
2PP x3 Sektor
2PP x3 Hamsa
3PP x2 Goblin Mage
3PP x2 Gourmet Emperor Khaiza
3PP x2 Harnessed Flame
3PP x2 Harnessed Glass
4PP x2 Goblinbreaker Teena
4PP x2 Uriel
5PP x2 Lucius, Goblin Slayer
5PP x2 Fortunehunter Feena
5PP x2 Execution
6PP x1 Athena
7PP x2 Sahaquiel
7PP x2 Gabriel
8PP x1 Odin
8PP x1 Lucifer
8PP x1 Archangel Reina
9PP x1 Dark Angel Olivia

Pure Neutral.
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>>163214196
>I don't know what a strawman is
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>>163214645
>call of cocytus

Why? If anything going Dragon and having breath would be better.
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>>163214547
Tempo Elf isn't really that hard to learn, its a play on curve deck with certain wombo combos in it similar to Sword honestly. Roach is about the most complicated thing and theres an infographic floating around about it
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>>163214734
One step at a time anon, one step at a time
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>>163214751
>2xSahaquiel
>no fatty to pull
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I already have an Olivia and an Incandescent Dragon
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>>163214734
We'll start there and see where it goes.
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>>163209549
RIP aria but Elana is stil lfine.

I hope this is true for those vials tho.
>>
>Playing Blood vs. Sword
>Turn 5
>Down to 11 health, my only option is to drop Dire Bond and hope he doesn't kill me
>5 health left, not sure if he has quickblader or not
>He doesn't, he drops Floral Fencer and evolves
>200% Vengeance.jpg
>Drop evolved RIghteous Devil and two Diabolic Drains to clear his board
>Healed back up to 15
>Win the game with full health

Blood is so fucking fun when it actually works
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>>163213926
this desu
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>>163214547
Dont brick your board if you dont have bounce in hand
thats about it
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>>163214908
themis would probably win you more games than seraph
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>>163214761
>Call you /pol/
>GUYS, LEDDIT LOL, LOOK AT THAT INSTEAD
>not a strawman
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>>163214954
Control Blood mirrors are mad fun
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friendly reminder that female goblins are just mini elves and they absolutely hate their own males
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>>163214842
I think the idea is you pull reina, then evolve her.
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>>163213665
Nep Control

3x Soul Conversion
3x Dingdong
3x Lurching Corpse
3x Skullcradle Widow
3x Undying Resentment
3x Foul Tempest
3x Deathbrand (or Pact of the Nethergod)
3x Urd
3x Hell's Unleasher
3x Call of the Void
3x Death's Breath
3x Underworld Watchman, Khawy
2x Mordecai
2x Nephthys
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>>163215005
>>163214761
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>>163215208
>2 Sahaquiels
>1 Reina
?
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>>163214763
Potential Sahaquiel synergy.

Though yeah, making slight changes depending on class would probably help significantly.

Olivia>Satan>Bahamut is an end game plan, but it's probably wise to just cut the Satan and Bahamut. Sahaquiel as well then since that removes two of the heaviest followers and Olivia and Odin should not be pulled out without fanfare.

I'd probably replace them with Angelic Barrage or Glass for earlier board clear.
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>>163214976
What do you mean by brick?
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>>163215229
No Cerb?
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What the fuck is the point of having 40 card decks when the matches are shorter than Hearthstone? Is it just to make it more random? I want to fucking hang myself every time I go an entire match without drawing any of my 6+ hard removal cards.
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How can this game ever evolve or improve? So long as they keep the way player one and player two are situated, the focus of the game is going to remain the mid turns. It will always be a midrange dominated game.

Control can never be viable again because of Dshift. A control meta is completely impossible because of that deck. And no, Elana isn't control. The variant ran right now is a midrange deck that has an alternative win condition tacked on.

Despite being able to have 10pp, it will never be relevant. 9pp is basically considered super late in this game and so there will never be relevant expensive cards again unless they are extremely broken.

Dance of Death means you'll never have a relevant big body card. People think the increase in board clears is going to do anything, but it's just going to make it more like Hearthstone.

>spending all your resources trying to contest the board
>the other player just keeps playing efficient board flooding cards and goes face
>you never actually stabilize and are always behind in cards

It's like people have never fought Sword before. I find it hilarious people think Otohime will be weak. They are going to love you spending your whole turn to clear what is essentially one card, which they will then immediately play again or do Alwida.

And it's not like board clears are going to help you deal with evolved storm cards. Roach is still going to take out 13+ health in the midgame.
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>>163215381
fill it with shit
like 5 fairies
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>>163215403
It'd screw with Top Nep, so no
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>>163215449
I just wanted to let you know that I didn't read any of what you wrote but you're probably an autist
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>>163215449
>
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>>163215449
>How can this game ever evolve or improve?

Two words, since you obviously never played a real CCG before (ie: Magic).

Ban. List.
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>>163215449

Midrange is the most patrician playstyle anyway

Aggroshitters and controlcucks can go play Hearthstone
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>>163215229
what about bone chimera? you have no turn 3 plays
also nekuroassasin
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>>163215446
This game have better chance for sinergy because the 3 card limit for every card even for legenderies.

Is like in sv you have a 13,3 sinergy and HS 15 points for normals and lower chance for legenderies.
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I wish all Arisa fags would die. So many PtP elves everywhere
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Post Dirt Rune lists and we collectively try to agree on a good RoB version of the deck.
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Anon-kun! It isn't too late to grind for my emblem and sleeves! No excuses, now go hit that ranked button!
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>>163215446
Imagine you have 2 removal cards you want to put in your deck.

You have better odds of drawing one of the 3 copies of each card (for a total of 6 cards) from your 40 card deck, than you do with the hearthstone system of 2 copies of each card (total of 4) from your 30 card deck.
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What factions are the best?
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>>163216185
Forest and Haven
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>>163216185
vampire
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>>163216085
Fuck off, slut.
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>>163215449
You have a very poor understanding of card game metas. To answer you seriously though, let me start by saying that there's one thing you need to understand, no deck should ever have perfect match ups, it's normal that decks will have disadvantageous match ups and even grossly disadvantageous match ups.

Moving on from there, there're basically two types of play that need to be balanced around, tournament play and ladder play. As long as a deck can achieve a 50% average win rate, it's a viable deck. Even as long as DShift exists, Traditional Control decks can remain viable so long as they're relevant in tournaments and ladder. In ladder, control only needs to be good enough that if it loses to DShift but beats most decks you run into, it's viable. In the standard tournament format, control decks are fine even if they lose all their DShift games if they can round out your match ups paired with your other deck enough to carry you through the series.

Similarly cards like Dance of Death don't shut down all options because they won't always be there when you play big cards. If Dance didn't exist, we might just run into the issue of fatties being too good.

People complain a lot about he balance of Shadowverse but it's actually extremely well balanced for its age, and signs point towards RoB being a fantastic expansion in regards to rounding this out. Your concerns mostly seem to be due to a lack of experience.
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>>163216085
I just have to hit B0 to get both right?
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>>163216185
sword is the most broken atm
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>>163216085
I need another 2.1k to get your sleeve!

I'll have enough time I promise. R-right?
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>>163214736
I fucking love that card in t2
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>>163216185
Burd faction
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Show me that you arent cancer /svg/
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>>163215687
You can only run followers of 4 different costs if you want Nep to get Morde 100% of the time, so you'd have to remove all followers of a different cost to be able to include 3-cost followers without fucking up your wincon
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>>163215627
Midrange in Shadowverse IS aggro. This game is very draw dependent and player one getting one less evolve and card makes playing straight aggro way too risky.

Almost every successful midrange deck in this game is 100% aggro, with many of them being heavy token flooding decks that play cards like Wind God (or class specific buffs) as a finisher. Dance of Death is probably the most used card in the game.
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>>163216257
You need to get 12,000 score. And the reward score is different from your rank score in that it never goes down with losses.
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>>163216321
I have a lot of Sword and Elf wins

Only the cutest wives for me. This is the opposite of cancer
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I want to FUCK arisaposters
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>>163216321
Just started playing ranked yesterday. Currently on C0 and about to switch to Storm Haven.
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> Turn 6 Otohime
> Turn 7 Sage Commander
> Turn 8 Sage Commander
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>muh wards will protect me
>calamitous curse will keep me safe
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Fuck this man. Half of my 10 total T2 are 4 wins. And 4 of them have ended with me cucked out of 5th win in the last match by some bullshit that turns the tables.
I just want a 5 win run.
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>>163216252
>no deck should ever have perfect match ups

Welcome to Forestverse.

>control decks can remain viable so long as they're relevant in tournaments

They aren't. They also aren't relevant on ladder. They lose to Dshift and then all the midrange decks because there is no payoff to playing control in this game.

>extremely well balanced for its age

It has barely existed yet has a completely stagnant meta and only three viable classes, two of which are only seeing play because the best class is expensive and tournaments force you to use more than one class.

Your optimism sounds to me like what is due to lack of experience. Look at tournament results. Look at ladder statistics. You're clearly playing a different game.
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>>163216321
Here you go mate.

I enjoy being teased by the way
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>>163216643
Why Gab in control blood?
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>>163216321
Most of those were ptp snowman and dirtrune.
>tfw you gave up on dragon and bishop long ago
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>freshly A3
>Get matched up with AA1 and AA2 decks
>3 game losing streak
>Out of A3 and back into A2

I hate how points work in A.
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>>163216283
Easily
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Buff Harvest Festival, Buff Homecoming. Make ptp forest great again.
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help
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>>163216767
one of those piles is very good and one is mediocre

get good
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>>163216612
just clear the otohime xD
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>>163216283
That's just 21 wins, you can easily make it by playing on weekends or whatever free time you have.
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>>163216740
What? Shouldn't you like queuing against AA rankers as an A ranker?

Higher point gain, what exactly do you hate about how points work in A rank?
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>>163216740
being matched up with higher rank at that point is a blessing though. Nearly everyone is netdecking and most people are somewhat competent, it's a good chance for free extra points and less to lose if you lose.
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who /stuckinA/ here
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>>163215627
This

>>163215449
I feel that anyone that actually wants 40 turn grind games is someone that watched too much Yu-Gi-Oh when younger.
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Need a concede please 82615

Stay if you need one as well.
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>>163216321
oh i'm cancer buddy boy
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>>163216890

> short haired Isabelle

MUH
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>>163216321
banner to mid As. Control/aggro blood rest of the way.
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>>163216979
I'm getting constant win streaks and blazed through mid-A0 to mid-A1, after struggling for a while at the bottom of A0.

I hope the power gap between lower A and upper A isn't massive, A0 and A1 doesn't feel like much of a difference
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>>163216937
I'm just bitter and salty because I've had shit draws for the past few games.

I'm especially salty because I was within lethal for all of them and then they stalled.

AA seems to be full of Control fuckers.
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>>163216685
Ladder statistics place everything very close together, there's a 6% win rate difference between the strongest and the weakest crafts. The tournament meta has only been stable in the last month of play, Blood was seeing tournament tops up until the latter half of November before people started building with it in mind and pushed it back down a tier.

I'll concede that control is poor right now, but there's no reason to think it'll always be poor. You haven't answered anything I put out, you're just representing your opinions on the topic as if they're fact. Put something forward.
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>>163217092
It's Erika wearing Isabelle's clothing.
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W-Was this supposed to happen?
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>>163217151
It seemed like the big power gap came in mid A for me when I blazed through it not too long ago. The good news is that, once you become accustomed to A1-A2, you pretty much have what it takes to grind masters if you have the patience.
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>>163216321
D-Did I do good?
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>>163217092
That's just a cute Erika cosplaying as a not so cute girl

Erika is C U T E
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>>163216767
Easy, easy left.
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>>163216321
Blood is mostly control and midrange
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>>163217304
Isabelle is cute too, no need to fight over who is cuter.
Isabelle would win though
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>>163216720
This isn't control. I don't have razory or bloody mary.
I started off with aggro bats and needed more strength in the mid/late game to deal with all sorts of crap. I have one more vamp queen, a revelation, a wind god, and an olivia but that is all the 5+ cards I have in that deck. Dire bond x2 is for card draw against slow decks like elana and I also run blood pact x3 because aggro runs out of steam fast. I still have the dire bond because the rune player will just banish it or turn it into a clay golem which screws me over fast. I never play dire bond vs rune. It's a weird deck and it isn't even fully crafted since I'm saving for expac.
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So is Aria actually getting nerfed or is this anon >>163209549 just rusing us?
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>>163217397
>No razory
You ok vampy? It's one of your best cards, bloody mary or not.
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>>163216321
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Anyone knows otohime bodyguard PP cost? If it's 1PP, it means everyone got a universal fish killer with Teena's brother.
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>>163217551
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/otohimes-bodyguard
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>>163217551
its 1pp
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>>163216321
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>>163217449
He didn't take any time to cite his source or respond to others, you decide.
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>>163217619
>>163217629

It's the smell of dead fishes (and fairies) in the morning then.
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eris with vampy's voice
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>tfw getting ranked anxiety playing in A rank
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>>163209651
>just got my second aurelia from a pack today
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>>163217671
Then I can keep playing Storm Haven. Good stuff.
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>>163217849
Make sure to take breaks if you start sliding. Some days you will hit big win streaks. Others you will struggle to end where you started.
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Need a concede if anybody is willing.

74172
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>Start finally climbing up with my dragonbro
>gooks with meta haven and forest decks everywhere
Fuck those shitters
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>keep getting dc bugged in t2
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>>163215130
post the thick one
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>>163216321
Dirtrune, Ramp with some discard memeing, Tyrant, pure Seraph.
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>>163218070
Thank you, friendly dragoncuck.
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>>163218013
I get anxious when I go on a winstreak thinking the next game will break it. I get anxious when I'm losing because I keep thinking of all the progress I'm losing
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Does Death's Breath buff/heal/ward zombies already on the board or only the ones it makes?
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>Played 26 games tonight
>Went first 21 times

Anyone wanna do a number crunch on that?
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>>163218851
stop playing sword
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>>163218851
It's a simple binomial, there are calculators on the internet.
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>>163218812
All zombies, including ones from previous Death's Breaths. It doesn't matter too much though, since 99% of the time any zombies from before Death's Breath will be slaughtered anyway.
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>>163218812
All zombies on the board.
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good curve
fuck elana
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why is this thread so dead

Do you evolve by dragging the orb to the follower or clicking on the follower and then on the evolve option?
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Charon in a santa costume
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>>163219528
power drag the orb to the follower
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>>163218812
It creates 3 and the necromancy buffs all ally zombies. Using it again with enough shadows would make the surviving 2/3 zombies become 2/4 with ward. Would be incredible if shadowcraft had some kind of zombie generator but Luna can't have nice things
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>>163219563
Cerberus in a reindeer costume
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>>163219528
I click on them to evolve.
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>Jannu gets the special legendary art
>When her main effect has basically been given to every class on cheaper cards, Control Haven will still be non-competitive and their new legendary is meme Skullfane 2.0

I guess the silver lining is that I get to feel like a special snowflake when I run my Guardian Sun deck with her as a one of.
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>just realized how much more packs i need to open just to finish decks
should i drop money on this game
with exp there gonna be even more cards that i don't own
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>>163219528
Click and drag > click twice
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heh
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>>163219528
I just right-click them
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>>163219584

>researcher of taboos
>rune

And I'm still salty, especially now that all Luna craft cards have been revealed.
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>>163219528
dragging like a real man
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Control blood

Should i replace the night hordes for diabolic drain?

Also, alucard saved my ass multiple times but im not sure how effective he really is in a control deck

dont tell me about getting another night queen, i already know that
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I want to die.
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>>163219751
How do you think dragon feels?

At least you can pretend there is another benefit with the +0/+2
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>>163219821
precious bloodfangs will still do 5 dmg if 5 bats dont go on the field?
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>>163219972
Edit: im retarded, its vampire queen, not night queen
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>>163220040
POST THE DICK
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>>163219821
Look at that smug smirk on her face.
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>>163220062
Yes
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Otohime is my queen. I want to be sexually taken advantaged of!
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>>163219972
2 alucards are enough
get another revelation
put 3 night hordes, that card is good value cos it can remove while giving you board control.
replace execution with diabloic bond
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I only need to craft 1 Urd and 3 garuda for a Storm Haven.

Do I go for it? Do we know if RoB will nerf old cards like Garuda?
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>>163220212
Will you be faithful to your queen when the new expansion hits and every other card boardwipes her?
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>>163220054
Fafnir is a huge fatty which is probably more useful than the 0-2 half the time.

Besides, Dragon's special lego will 100% be Forte, the Atlas holding up her class (unless Discard actually pans out).
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Should I save up for the expansion or nah?
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>>163220268
It's not like you'll lose dust if a card you craft gets nerfed.

Urd's a good investment as an incredibly useful neutral that fits well with multiple decks.
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>>163220414
it's too late
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>>163220268
I don't think Garuda will be nerfed honestly. Most of the shitters have gotten over him. He generated maximum salt maybe a month ago though.
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>>163220234
i have execution to remove amulets, mostly banner meme and elana, since when i remove it, they just panic until they draw another one
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>BMing in unranked matches

whats the point?
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>>163220342
I'll put my third copy of her in my deck for more instant boards and have her sit on my face with her tight fish butt
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>>163220212
Sorry, we're already married.
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>>163220472
I've saved up 2k, but yeah I guess that's not enough?
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reminder that your otohime is a used goods slut who has already given birth (as a crocodile, no less)
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>Queued into nothing but bad matchups for the past 2 hours
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>>163220362
A huge fatty is never useful.
All it does is get removed for a tempo loss.
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>>163220497
whatever works for you. But honestly it really isn't worth spending a turn doing nothing and letting them get even more board control
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>>163220573
160 cards, you probably won't even get all the silvers
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>Forte and Cerberus aren't the alternate art legendaries for the crystal packs
What would your reaction be? They already missed an opportunity with moon bunny, anything's possible.
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>>163220802
I forgot to mention i have 5k crystals though
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>>163220748
>Play pic related
>Go first every time
>10 game win streak
You just need to pick the best deck you can get.
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>>163220850
there's no FUCKING way they aren't, but if they aren't, then I won't buy them.
Not like I was going to buy dragon pack anyways
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>>163220850
It would save me money so I'd be fine with it.

I'm already somewhat into the clear due to not really liking Ancient Elf's new art either and already having 3 of her.
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>>163220515
>Opponent wipes on 6 to stop your developed board
>Play Otohime
>They wipe against on 7
>Play Otohime
>They wipe again on 8
>Play Otohime
I really don't see the issue.
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>>163220978
Then they drop seraph
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>>163220978
>Implying you'll always have three copies
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>>163220850
Jeanne's more popular than Moon Bunny despite being shit. Though, I guess Ancient Elf over Rose Queen means waifu power isn't necessarily how they pick.

I'd be pretty shocked of Forte and Cerberus weren't the alt arts, but I might still buy Shadow if they've got a really cool Atomy or something.
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>can't do missions because my decks are too bad

Thanks Cygames, glad to know the greatest factor in my success is skill :^).
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from time to time i have seen that someone post a wolf or fox girl i not sure showing her modesty everywhere who's is that girl? looks like yuel or fenrir but i not sure
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With the Midrange Sword vs Forestcraft match up, should I be religiously clearing their board to prevent Ancient Elf shenanigans? Like sending 2/1s to clear fairies in the early-mid game
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>>163220978
Pretty much this, Otomeme is as much an answer to board clears as board clears are to Otomeme. I can't think of any 6+ cost cards off the top of my head that re-establish board better than Otomeme.
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>alt art for blood is soul dealer

How do this make you feel?
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>>163221163
>Jeanne's more popular than Moon Bunny despite being shit
Not in shadowverse. Stop talking shit 16yo jeanushit
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>>163220951
>new art is LoTF
>uses the girl concept instead of the current demon
>you buy it anyway
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>>163221230
I always killed everything except the cards that give them more fairies.
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Soul dealer is my husbando even though his card is shit.
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>>163221195
""""Pious"""" Fox?
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>>163221129
If you suspect a seraph deck you should be storming his health down to the danger zone turns 5-7, not boarding up. Albert will be tag teaming this with Alwida soon.
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>>163220850
>>163221306

Jeanne is chosen probably because she played a role in that anime series, so it won't surprise me if Cereberus and Azazel will show up.
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>>163221421
no its a lewd fan art her tail was blue i think
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>>163221230
I kill everything they play until mid-late game, that's when you start to punch Arisa in the face
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>>163221230
For the most part yes, I would not do terribly lopsided trades like 2/1 into a fairy in most circumstances though. If he doesn't have the elf, you're just saving him 2 face damage there. Look at your hand and see what kind of answers you have for different sizes of elf in turns 3-5 and plan accordingly.
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>>163221306
Jeanne's probably more popular than Moon Bunny even in Shadowverse. Japs are always trying to find excuses to run her even though she's shit and most of the fanbase over there is probably coming over from RoB and Granblue.
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>>163220893
>only one themis
Nani?
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> turn 16
> only 26 shadows

I don't get it. I thought earth rite was supposed to naturally generate a metric fuckton of shadows just by playing normally.
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>>163208393
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>>163221617
I only have one Themis and one Moon Bunny. That's been more than enough though, at least at my rank.
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>>163220850
>Alexander is the sword alt art instead of the midrange females.
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>10 draws above 5
>3 of them in my top 5 cards post mulligan
great
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>>163221230
Just keep a plan for their biggest elf and kill if you can't handle it. Also tech more Barrage in if your forest matchup is still troublesome. Sword has their best counters though.

Vanguard, one of the earliest wards, White Paladin, Floral Fencer versus Princess Mage is a large tempo loss if they save the fairies, Aurelia punishes large boards, Tsubaki punishes Eve, Elf, and the rare Master of the Canopies.

Unless you're being extremely aggressive, an early Ancient Elf isn't a death sentence. Just don't be stupid and play into an obvious worst case scenario.
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>play deck
>get matched against your counter right away
how do we fix this?
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>>163221617
Storm doesn't really need 3 themis, it's just a backup scenario. Two is the reasonable maximum.
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>>163221613
I find the first part hard to believe. But if the problem are the crossovers its kinda away from the point.
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>Shadow is the only class with a whole set
>ghostly grasp, shadow reaper, zombie pirate and feathered patrolled
>no generator

It's Luna's losses again, /svg/?
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>>163221958
The algorithm matches your deck against its counters when you're on a win streak
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>>163221617
If you curve well, you end up with a bigger board faster unless you're playing against Sword generally.

Cudgel and Sledgehammer if you tech her reverse the situation on turns 4+ extremely fast as that's when your early amulets start popping.

It's only when you draw bad when Themis is needed. And if you've drawn badly you're likely to lose even with the Themis unless you've still got amulets cooking.
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>>163221958
Post your woes about this game's cancer on /svg/ of course!
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>>163221958
You have to outsmart the developers. For example, if you're playing an aggro deck you name it "Control X".
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>>163221958
Plack deck without counters, you cuck.
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Taking bets on how this one turns out.
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>>163222091

I really want to look into running Feathered in my midrange deck, but that necromancy cost is way too high for a card that has to compete with Soldier and Rabbit for 3-drop follower, and Foul Tempest/Deathbrand for 3-drop removal.

Any ideas where she could be used properly?
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>>163222351
cucked by sword
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>>163222351
Haha, time to go first against sword.
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>>163222410
>>163222412
Well I'm against sword, but I'm going 2nd.
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>>163222351
KEK
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>>163222351
Opponent 5 will hear the dragon's roar, memecraft man.
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>>163222496
>>163222459
>>163222412
>>163222410
>>163222439
HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR

He conceded right away
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>>163208926
git good
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post that luna pic
you know. that one
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>>163222657
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Need a concede for my daily please.

98943
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>>163222657
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>>163209549
I want to believe
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>>163221985
You don't have to trust my word, just go back and look at older deck lists. Jeanne was the Haven legend to run before DE, and after DE people tried to force her on lists before dropping her to 1 and then 0.

Writing it off as a "crossover" is technically true but kind of misleading anyways, Shadowverse was sold as the Rage of Bahamut TCG in the first place and practically all of the oldest fanbase is holdovers from other CyGames properties. She's without a doubt the most popular character in Haven.
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>>163222657
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Can anyone explain me why everyone in here hates Gamepress per reflex?

I mean, it usually does not even seem to matter what the actual information is, or how many sources there is, and if the information is cross-referential correct.

You guys hate it anyway.

Why? Where did you get the PTSD?
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>>163222754
Uh oh
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>>163222753
thanks my dragon bro. May your dragons roar strike fear into the heart of your foes!
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>Emote spamming forestfag
>WHOAH WHOAH (gasp) TIME FOR TARGET PRACTICE HI THERE HI THERE
>Combos with Rhinoroach to drop me to 12, then drops Ancient Elf, a fairy and Liza thinking I give a shit
>Combo into DShift
>He DCs while I barrage him with BM

Cathartic
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>>163217193


>Sword second
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>>163223000
>Censored game
>Dshitter
Fuck off.
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Is right better here?
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>>163223000
>(Gasp)
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>>163222921
I don't hate it, it's just a vocal minority that likes to meme.
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>>163215593

>banning standard cards
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>7 shitty cards that in no way will save my ass
>opponent going strong but ran out of cards
>conceded

Y-yeah that's right bitch, better to run away
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>>163222383

T2. She suffers the same problem with Apprentice Necromancer.

If she was a 2/3 ward, she would have a niche use. We really have no use for a Lizard man.
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>>163222657
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>>163223000
>counting to 18
>s-skill!!!
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>>163223114

y u mad tho :^)
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>>163223170
t. dshitter
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>>163223118
Right
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>>163223000
forest will always have the strongest bm game
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>>163223196

The same could be said for any deck
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>Reach AA3
>Lose 1k points in 13 games

Nice game shadowbabs
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>>163222657

gotchu senpai
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>>163223186
MODS MODS MODS
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>>163223000
Why in the world did this shitter get confident against obvious Dshift turn 10+
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>>163222657
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>>163223297

>low res version
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>>163213375
Banner can net you wins pretty much in any rank since it's essentially a hard counter to DShift Rune, as well as most Haven decks if you don't brick.

But I'm pretty sure that Midrange Sword is pretty much Banner but better
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>>163223397
ごめんね
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>>163222801
You're misleading people right now. It depends of whatever lego people pull at first, be it either Jeanne or Bunny. Jeanne is worldwide popular, a knight that anyone would be more than happy to see getting in the field just because of the natural impact it causes, which's beside the point.
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The only thing I can think of doing with this guy is generating a handful of shadows off of Playful Necromancer/Dark Conjurer/Howl

Why did shadow only get memes this xpac
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>>163223361

He dropped ancient elf and Liza, returning a rhinoceroach. He was going to swing for lethal next turn. The Liza and Elf was insurance, protection from any removal, and the only way he could ever lose is by pulling off the combo, which is a fair assumption, not all the time can DShift do anything against that boardstate, and the deck is clunky as fuck.
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if you don't win as first player before they use their final evo point is there any point in continuing the game
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>>163223715
stories
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>>163223746
You know liza protection doesnt even really help. Spell like dance of death or fiery embrace can still kill the ancient elf with liza effect.
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>Lost 3000 score in one day
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>>163223715
Shadow received plenty of goodies this xpac, if anything Sexton is kind of overrated. Lurching Corpse and Necroassassin are better.
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>>163223715
I think he'll be just fine in Aggro Shadow as a way to guarantee your Last Words go off to keep your curve sticky and irritating against Haven.
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>>163223764
if you're an aggro deck with reach options in your deck - sure
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>>163223746

DShift doesn't run DoD. Fiery Embrace is usually a 1-of so the chances were very slim. Most of DShift's removal are damage based anyway
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>>163223481

same
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>>163223845

But they're shit stories.

People give Beelzebub shit for being similar to Animal Companion from HS, but he had some consistency since you were guaranteed the 4/4 body of the card itself, and most of his power comes not from whichever bug drops with him, but from the threat he presents to your opponent: let him live and he'll keep shitting out free followers every turn. The best part of LotF is that he throws your opponent's turn 7/8 into disarray since they have to try and address the big fucking fly sitting on the board
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>>163224064
meant for
>>163223918
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>>163223954

Almost all the good cards shadow got were in support of the Neptits last words meme, which doesn't appeal to be at all.

All the actual Necromancy cards we got blow chunks

>dude Necro 4: deal 2 damage
>dude Necro 2: last words up a 2/2
>DUDE NECRO 8: Dance of Death/Deathbrand
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>>163223993

yeah but what happens when they kill him

his affect doesn't linger, does it?
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>>163224318

>appeal to me

Sorry, too much writing over finals week
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>>163223939
What deck did you play that tanked so hard, and what rank?
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>>163224360
It does sit on everything that's already on board, however much that's worth to you.
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>>163224360

the effect most likely stays on followers which were played on the turn he was on board as a permanent buff like cynthia, banner, etc.
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>>163224318
No, some support atomeme.

Also some of the cards like Khawy are just flat out good. He has all of LotF's functions rolled into one, so no RNG shenanigans.

The xpac was pushing LW, but that doesn't mean they can't be effective in non-neptits decks.
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>In take 2
>Have the opponent down to 4-1 health
>They always manage to topdeck the perfect card and I lose anyway
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wuts enhance
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Just hit AA0 nd I feel like having fun for a while. Should I make Memely Tyrant now or should I wait later y/n
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>>163223954
I personally think Sexton is underrated, same as the 3pp summon two ghosts spell.

Most I see people talking about is Balor, Neptits and Necroasssassin.
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>>163224663
Kicker from MtG
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>>163223162

Cards from every set of Magic have been banned or restricted due to overpowered shit.

Being the "standard" or "base" set doesn't mean shit. However, this being a computer game means they can, rather than just flat out ban shit, just increase or reduce the numbers. You can't do that with a printed game.

Some cards though, probably should be restricted or banned. Or just eratta'd to not be too strong. Shit, D-shift should probably be flat out eratta'd to not allow multiple castings, and Elana's should just max out at a single +1/+1 bonus and have it's cost raised to 4.
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>>163222921
I don't hate them but I also do not agree with the way "they" filter the winratio on masters.
Despite all data being manually reported they hold water, as they should, however I can speak from experience that low masters is a fucking cess poll and I'd rather only take into account people that made out of the lower 50% of players there, but we can't have that.
Dshift is the prime exemple of this for me
>almost every high master player spams it
>clearly a consistent deck for those who can pilot it
>yet it has less than 50% winratio on masters due to the aforementioned cess poll

I think their meta reports are pretty good up to AA but it lacks a lot of credibility on masters if you intend to climb.
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>>163224689
3pp ghosts is only for a dedicated Atomeme deck. Which will still be a meme deck, but whatever.
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>>163224689
Yeah Sexton is great to have against haven. If Sexton can trigger last words on followers who get banished, can you imagine them using baldy on lurching corpse and the last words targeting him before he could attack?
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>>163224554
>He has all of LotF's functions rolled into one,

Which, I suppose, is why I have trouble valuing him highly. To risk sounding like a skipping record, LotF's best point of appeal is that he creates two bodies instead of one. Take the storm beetle for example, which I consider to be the weaker of the three:

7 mana spent two followers, a 4/4 and a 2/3 with Storm and Drain

Even the bane bug or the scorpion yield similar results; I guess I just prefer the sticking power of the two bodies over just one, since removal is typically either strong or multi-target, with only a handful of exceptions

Khawy's nature as a LW is also a risk, since that means he has no immediate impact on the board without something like Urd/Nep/etc. popping him during your turn.
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>>163224507
A3
I played Midrange Sword, Dshift, and Aggro Blood
There's nothing wrong with the decks themself, I just had an extremely unlucky day
I'm talking like, queuing into every bad matchup while my opponent gets a perfect curve, and I brick game after game
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>>163224796

Not allow multiple castings in a row, I mean. ie: No taking more than 1 additional turn before having to give your opponent a turn.
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>>163223397
Then post the high rez version you twat.
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Bloodcraft vengeance starts at 12
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>Preparing 9 Shadow decklists for RoB
Pretty sure Traditional Aggro will be best again though.
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>>163225526
As a Control Blood player, no. Too strong.
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>>163224318
>>163224689
Lurching Corpse is super value and is a card that the enemy doesn't want to kill but can't be ignored. Necroassassin was what I wanted most, that is another high value 4 drop. It generates shadows and makes Last Words matter and it shits on cards like Ancient Elf on top of being able to beat down other 4 drops after an evolve. This is a very good card that will really wreck midgame for Shadow.

Sexton is not bad but he is most relevant in a specific matchup and his usefulness will wax and wane with the meta.
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>topdecking Odin to save my ass against Dirt PtP that couldn't manage to draw another one before I stabilized and won

Holy fuck, that was retarded lucky.
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>Turn 6 PtP
I guess I should have killed him faster :>
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Shadow got 3pp unleasher tho.
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>>163225531

CCS Midrange probably with these changes.

-2 Spartoi Sergeant +2 Ghosthound Sexton
-2 Dark Conjurer +2 Lurching Corpse
-2 Deathchaser +2 FoD
-2 Unleasher +2 Lucius
-2 Charon +2 Fortunehunter Feena
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>>163225942
Stop whining, Forest is fine, Sword is worse
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>>163223162
>>163224796
We don't need a banlist. We need a limit per card, this is the obvious straightforward fix whom I believe people were trying to avoid saying for too long.
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>>163225942
>Wow, my board is tanking fast, I wonder if I can chain my altered fates without mucking my ptp pulls. Let's find out together.
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>sword mirror
>winning the value game
>opponent plays White Paladin
>instantly win
outskilled :^)
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>>163225991
Lucius is 5pp, so we'd be running 7 total on a list like that. Might be a bit much. Feena definitely feels like an upgrade over Charon here though, a real shame since I like Charon but the lack of new Shadow generation and Shadow's excellent 2pp line-up makes it seem like an obvious change.

Back to Lucius though, I don't know if he's worth running in Shadow. Shadow already has a great game against wide strats.
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>>163226146

Just need to nerf Dshift so control can actually have a breathing chance in this game
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>>163226146
>We need a limit per card

So you want a restricted list?

Like Magic? And every other successful CCG?

tl;dr These terms exist for a reason.
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>>163226234
Control sword runs a few cards that shits on mid range. I don't see the problem.
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>>163225326

since you asked so nicely

>>163225667

How cant you ignore it?
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>>163226258

Lucius is a card that singlehandedly beats Otomeme and fairies spam. I've played games where I cleared the board with a powered tempest only for them to play another Otomeme. Not a fun experience, mind you.
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>>163226280
Like magic, yugioh's limited list and so. yes.
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>>163226276

Just give control players tools to fight against it, DShift is incredibly lackluster as it is. You're worst off fighting PtP Rune once DShift gets nerfed and everyone and their mother migrates to PtP
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>>163226358
I like you for posting it.
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The last poll: Which leader would it be the most fun to cheat on?
40 votes
30% Isabelle
28% Eris
15% Erika
10% Arisa
10% Forte
5% Vania
3% Luna

New poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11916296
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>opponent plays cards
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>>163226851
>Turn 1 pass
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>>163226851
>Dragon is bad
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>>163225039
LotF has better highrolls and is better for fucking up their tempo on turns 7-8.

But Khawy has one big advantage: Due to 4/5 statline, he's almost guaranteed to eat at least one fatty. Unless they use Odin on him, which requires you to be second AND them to have Odin, it is very unlikely that the opponent will be able to banish Khawy. Thus for the most part, it is very hard to effectively deal with him, because you cannot normally remove him without taking a huge loss. And you can't hit face with most followers without losing your biggest dude.
This makes him an amazing comeback follower, especially when he will almost certainly be healing for 4+ hp.
He's a reactive play (unless you're ahead, in which placing him is just salt in the wound) but that LW is not really something you can really play around without Odin or Petrify, it's a big ole "eat shit".

LotF is great and proactive, and can easily snowball into a giant win.
But he doesn't have the consistency that Khawy provides against bigger threats.
Like say there's a big old AE on the board and you play Khawy. Like 6/7 or some shit. Khawy is basically guaranteed to eat that shit and heal you for 6, hopefully putting you out of the range of angry roach noises. LotF can kill it with Bane bug, block a hit and hope they don't have any other answers with ward bug, or just kind of get fucked with drain bug. 2/3 pulls are still good-decent with one bad. Yeah this is a skewed example, but still.

I think Khawy's gonna be better against decks that like to make big guys, while LotF is better against board flood. As they use removal against khawi on a zoo board and he eats like a 3/2 or a 2/2 and you get fucked. LotF puts out a ward bug or a drain or whatever, you eat the same follower, heal the same amount, but still have a 4/4 on the board. If you get the ward bug, they're basically fucked.

So I guess they're both good, but in different ways.
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>>163226358
Because it's something that will peck away at you forever so it can put you in kill range of Phantom Howl., and its a prime buff target as well. Eventually it can evolve and get jacked up with Coco/Keen Enchantment and that's not something to turn a blind eye too.
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Post your deck screen
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DUDE
WHAT IF WE MADE A CLASS
WITH INFINITE HEALS AND CARD DRAWS ON THE SAME CARDS
AND THE BEST BUFF IN THE GAME
THAT BUFFS ALL OF ITS MINIONS BY 1/1 FOR EACH HEAL
AND MADE IT COST 3 MANA
AND ALSO GAVE THAT CLASS THE BEST REMOVAL IN THE GAME
AND
AND
AND WE GAVE THEM EXODIA
HAHA EPIK
EPICK
FOR
THE
WIN
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>>163226258

Alternatively, Lucius can be replaced with Teena instead for a 4PP. I'd wager there will be a lot of Feena in the meta, so that 5 damage will be relevant enough.
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>>163227001
I really, really like Khawy.
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>>163226759
>tfw you will never roleplay as dragons in the bedroom with Forte
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OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>163227146
>I don't know how to go face
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>Finally decide to take Moon out of my deck since she's a dead card
>Open my daily pack
>Animated Moon Al' Miraj
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>>163227201
nice shoop
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>>163227146
Play control sword and dshift and stop crying, bitch nigga
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>>163227143
I'm not creative.
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>>163227001
>it is very unlikely that the opponent will be able to banish Khawy
That's if you don't play Sexton on him. If you do, the only things stopping you are Petrification (with no earth rite) and Draconification.
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>>163227143
see
>>163216321
You're late buddy.
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>>163227001
Personally my #1 reason for preferring Khawy is just that I can't trust my luck pulling decent shit.

My #2 reason is the chance of walling a DShift finish.
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>>163227273
>go face
>heals it all for only a few mana while drawing 5 cards and buffing their minions by 5/5
outskilled
>>163227296
>j-just play control sword the most expensive deck in the game
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>>163227324
Decks, not ranked wins you baka
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>>163227143
I only play one of these anyways. Maybe that'll change with Veight's release.
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>>163227001

You make a solid case for Khawy. Thank god he's silver, so I can eat least craft him to try subbing him in for LotF.

I think the issue is that I'm not running Mordecai in my list, although I've been thinking about trying to slot him in somewhere.

So I'm pretty reliant on using a Cerberus or two to kill from hand as my wincon, so the snowbally-ness of LotF that you mentioned works better for me.

I think you're right, and that Khawy is a really good defensive turn-7, especially against something like blood that'll run you down pretty quickly otherwise. You just need to have something which comes after him to sweep the game.
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You are allowed only 1 copy of Mordecai, Ancient Elf, Seraph, 2 copies of Themis _____
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>>163227296
>Control Sword
heh...my prayers are victory...kid..........
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>>163227143
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>>163227143

>ramp is a man's soul

eheheehehe
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Who is running Aggro Forest here? How is the deck?
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>>163227450
>wants to beat haven
>doesn't want to construct control sword
freedom aint free
also
>healing and buffing
by sacrificing board space and playing understatted followers while your shitters can keep going face
call me when haven gets healing wards
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>>163227450
Yeah, if that strategy didn't work, you did get outskilled. Why would you attack into minions that are buffed for free and can be easily replenished? They will inevitably get board control with that deck, the only reliable way to win is to go face.
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>>163227613
I've faced it some. Annoying when they get early May/AE draws, that's for damn sure.
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>People calling midrange sword "control sword"

why?
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I'm in the mood for some meme decks, someone post the no follower ptp blood one
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>>163227143
>Shadow deck
I don't appreciate this slander towards my wife
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>survive 6 turns of apocalypse cards
>while healing back to full and establishing board presence
>still evo to spare
>there's noone else I'd rather lose to.jpg

I didn't want to bully you Rowen ;_;
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>>163227646
>Go face and ignore minions
>All damage gets healed up and you're staring down several 8/8s
>If you somehow do pressure them enough, they have three Themis
>And an instant win on turn 8
I don't understand
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>>163227452
I'm fucking retarded and linked the wrong post. Here's the one I was looking for >>163211021
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>>163227646
Because then she just instagibs me next turn with her 8/8 tigers
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>>163227767
I marked her with haven sleeves
Your wife/daughter is officially my bitch
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>>163226759
Forte is not satisfied unless you fuck her like a dragon.
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>>163227550
show your atomeme deck
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>>163227895
Shut the FUCK up
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>>163227895
That's cute
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>>163226568

How the fuck do you stop an opponent with 3 turns and 2-3 7/7's

you dont
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>>163227201
Fen sprite is a slut
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>>163227880
Themis is really the only bad thing. Though I played against this deck with midrange sword, so I had an easy time replenishing the board if they did Themis me, and could reliably get in enough damage before they get too many Themis.

>>163227890
That's because you didn't force her to use those tigers killing your cards, or they got lucky with Themis.
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>>163228076
>implying I care about Eris
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>>163228000
spread the memes
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>>163227880
>lol just outplay them dude
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>>163228081
Kill them faster
Or hand destruction
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>>163228076
It's funny because most of the people that I duel against that save up their evos are haven players, for some reason.
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>>163228251
>deathly AND atomeme
You madman
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>>163228081

5pp Amulet

Each player may only play 1 spell or follower per turn.

Apply pressure as needed since they can't spellboost their way to a quick turn 8-DShift
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>>163228197
>don't split bodies
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS/Acolytes Light :^)
>split bodies
Themis :^)
>stall game out
Elana :^)
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>>163227503
I think it really matters what sort of shadow you want to run.
I don't think I'd run him without either neptits or mordecai. He's such a defensive late game play that exists to either try and cause such a tempo loss for your opponent that you can safely drop your bomb next turn, be it neptits or mordecai, or what have you. A big play that will win you the game, but may or may not have an immediate effect when you play it.

LotF is much better for being aggressive as you get the multiple bodies and most likely a storm or rush for free.
I don't think I'd play Khawy and Cerberus in the same deck. God that sounds bad, like saying I wouldn't put Forte in a dragon deck. But he's such a defensive card that you're almost certainly going to be a grinder deck of a sort, and she's actually not the best at that.

I'd put her in every single other shadow deck, and always with LotF.

I think it just matters, at least from a theorycrafting standpoint whether you wanna be more defensive or aggressive with your slower shadow decks.
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>>163228251
when i'll pull my third atomeme, sure
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>>163228197
I kind of feel this is a case of you not having enough experience fighting them, because Elana/Seraph is probably Midsword's worst matchup
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>>163228334
What point are you trying to make exactly? I already told you the way to win is to race and hope they don't have every Themis, which is a reliable way to win. Spamming :^) isn't an argument.
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>Dshift opponent plays 2-3 Levis on evolves.
Goodbye, my board, hello defeat.
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>>163228314
ironically its the best wincon atomeme has, altered fate when youre running out of cards into tyrant has won me a lot more games than early atomy.

The opponent lets their guard down about your shadows when they think your whole deck is just focused on summong atomy.
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>>163227143
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need a concede please

84985
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>>163228251
How much success has this deck seen in your rank?
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>>163228251
what rank are you? I ask only because I am trying to mess with the idea of a meme deck when RoB hits and I'm curious how this fares at your rank.
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>>163215449
this is supposed to be a fast paced CCG

if you want drawn out games play MtG
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>>163228776
CUTE
U
T
E
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there is a lack of erika lewds
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>>163226759
Tumblr tier polls.
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>>163228251
So, you're the idiot i just encountered?
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>>163228789
>>163228804

I'm AA0 I'd say it nets me about a rough 50% win rate when I use it for my dailies which I also do in Ranked.

This list was originally compiled and put online by a master ranked player so I didn't craft this myself.
It's easily my favorite shadow deck to play though.
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>>163228896
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>>163228993
Nope I've been in arena friendo
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Help me anon-san
58380
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>feel like i've been losing and struggling for a while
>on a 6 game win streak
I don't get it.
I should have lost most of those game.
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Would you play Craig and Clark on curve without spellboosting anything? Especially if your opponent has 1 and 2 drop on board.
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Is it worth going into A rank as a daily mission shitter that only has aggro decks? Don't want to get assraped when RoB hits.
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>>163229236
>2/2 and 2/3 on curve
>at all bad

Pretty shitt not getting any value out of the spellboosts but it's not really that bad.
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>>163229320
no
A is hell
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18035
Need some help
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>>163229190
I love you dork dragon anon
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>>163229405
Cool. Well if you see a sandbagging Vampy it's probably me.
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>>163228319
'
dude...
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>>163229320
Low A is a cesspool of people have lost the will to ladder.
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>>163229320
tech angelic barrage for elves and prey on dshitters
easy wins
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>>163229236
Well, I could give up the board and eat a ton of face.

Or I could put shit on the board and for it in a flood-based aggro deck.
I think I'd do the thing that would allow me to still win.
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>>163229457

thank you
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>>163229236
depends on what you're playing against

most decks probably yes, their stats are fine for on curve
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Any madmen here gotten the 5 packs? Feeling like I can push for it this month.
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Easiest choice of my life. Time to play constructed.
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Please help 41204
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>>163229843
Im in the same score as you

i dont see posible to reach the 5 packs unless you live playing or you literally win 100%
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>>163229917
Yes... YES!
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>>163229116
her face looks like a love live character, gross
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>>163229843
fucking sandbaggers
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>>163230093
>Dullahan
No!
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>>163230249
t. Gay
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>>163230054
Thank you!
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>First loss with Storm Haven is against an Aggro Bat Vampy with perfect opener while I got jack shit
Serves me right for going on an 11 game winstreak.
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>aggroblood tries to stop your dshift funtime
>hit vampy in the face with levi's balls
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>>163230261
Masters, climbed from AA this month, now going for the animated Olivia
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>>163230354
welcome to luckcards
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>>163230265
It's T2, didn't have much of a choice.
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>>163230354

Were you using a deviant heart flair?
Some storm havencraft just conceded to me turn 4 when i got them down to 6 hp with bats just a few minutes ago.
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>>163227143
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>>163227749
Open wide
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>>163230846
Nah, I never concede.
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>>163230948
ah just thought it could be cause you literally posted this a minute after I won that match
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>>163229116
sauce pls
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>>163230878
wow, this is some /b/ tier cringe
it feels refreshing to know that someone has worse naming sense than me
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>5 game losing streak

Kill me.
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>>163231150
thanks
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>>163230369
how do you get animated olivia?
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It is so satisfying to beat a dshift rune by playing 4 cards in total as vampy
I need to fap now
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>>163231454

Top 1000 in master. 3 Olivia if you are in top 100
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>>163231042
pixiv artist has it censored with the quickbladers (as far as I can tell)

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58534440

>>163231454
1 Olivia and 2500 gold if you place top 1000 masters this month.
3 Olivia and more gold if you get top 100.
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>>163231702
>>163231454
damn time to get into masters then
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>make a good T2 sword deck, totally going to go 5-0 with it
>get slaughtered 3 games out of 5

The worst part was when i got elf to 2hp with otohime + sage but he nature guidanced a fairy, topdecked forest archelon and burned me from 20 hp.
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Fuck elves
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>>163231702
think i could hit that with banner?
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>>163231702
Click on the image to see the 2nd one.
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post your best tyrant atomeme deck right now
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>>163231042
>>163231702
use iqdb
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>>163231750
It's the first time they have given masters rewards, remains to be seen if this is a monthly thing or an occasional bone they'll throw us.
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>>163231840
some guy posted one that was created by a masters player a bit ago.
>>163228251
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Is there any way I can improve my bat deck? It feels so inconsistent
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>>163231771
I know you can get to masters with banner, I dunno if the Masters climb would be much different for you, I'm 6k up and it all starts to feel samey from mid A onward and up to where I am. There's a lot of Dshift about in Masters and you should wreck that.
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>>163232076
Bat's are inconsistent.
Your tech options are pretty much just medusa's gaze to break through saber and dark general for more storm lategame.

I'd replace one horde with one demonic strike. I don't really like horde.
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I always lose to Ramp Dragon. I've got a pretty good understanding of most match ups but Ramp Dragon constantly kicks my ass and I can't seem to figure out what I'm supposed to do against it. Please send help.
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i really want to play a dragon deck that wins by doing efficient trades to gain control of the board. but none of the decks in shadowverse do that. everything's so gimmicky, "wincon" really isn't a meme because you can't just win by playing guys unless they're all one and two drops and you go face all the time
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>>163232076
Not really unless you want to change it up. Maybe take out some stuff for Dark General or something.
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>>163232076
Night Horde is kind of shitty, replace 1 for another demonic strike. Some people tech blood pact for digging, others tech dark general for certain matchups where you have to race.
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>>163232213
Currently for blood there isn't any decent 4 drops, horde is alright until the next expansion.
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> When they think they're safe behind their wards.
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>>163232294
ask this guy >>163232272
>>
>play floral fencer on turn 4 going 2nd
>opponent concedes
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>>163232213
If I say have two Vanias and no fortress or bat cards, then would playing both and evolving one for the 2 face damage be worthwhile?

I feel like half the time I win by just drawing lots of Blood Wolves early
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>>163232272
rank?
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>>163232272
Don't waste your hard removals on stupid shit. If you run wards, know the timing on when to drop him. Apply pressure early, but don't let Aiela make favorable trades all day. Be mindful of Siegfried and don't take bait trades that set him up if you can help it. If he gets to late game, 2 damage to field is probably going to happen, try not to let him manipulate your health pools to clean your field out if possible.

What craft are you? There's more but it depends what you play.
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>5 dshitters in a row
>five
>FIVE

that's it I'm playing banner for the rest of the day

I don't care even if I tank back to AA2, you motherfuckers are not getting any more points from me
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>>163232337
>Night Horde is kind of shitty
It's a massive tempo card for an aggro deck, that is the complete opposite of shitty.
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>>163232076

play a real deck then
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What if Rose Gardener summon Elf Girl Liza and Elf Child May with fanfare effects when evolved?
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i see so many people play urd without using it to maximum effectiveness. it makes me want to run it just because if they're running it and using it badly, i'm sure i could use it better
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>>163232661
It only gets worse in Masters.
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>>163232524
A3 about to enter promotions. My overall win rate is generally pretty good but I can't handle Dragon for shit.

>>163232579
I play everything except Rune and Dragon with some frequency. I had a launch account because I came from Granblue Fantasy but I didn't play it seriously until Steam, so I basically started with a huge collection.
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>>163232661
t.forerst/havenfag
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>>163232272
Don't kill Aiela if it'll give them 6PP because it's usually not worth it and it's probably better to take the 2-4 damage. At 6PP is when they can start playing Wyvern Cavalier, which can let them play Fafnir the next turn, or make Genesis Dragon or Forte/Urd possible on turn 8. If they use Urd on her then you'll just have to take it though, unless you read that and kill Aiela anyway. You need wards too because it's the only way to stop all the storm.

>>163232661
I had this happen a couple of days ago and did the same thing. Once I switched to banner I just ran into a bunch of midrange sword though.
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>>163232661
>play elf against dshitters
>always a stressful race against time to roach them down
>try dshift myself
>comfy solitare
i can see why people enjoy this shit
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>>163232812

Using it on storm units is okay.

Are you talking about using her on skullcradle widows for the draw? I do that sometimes.
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>>163231750

Good fucking luck, the competition have increased two-three folds already, and its not even the final week.

The amount of time you would need for the good rewards are many times better spent on doing something else.
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>>163232834
can you gimme their decks? what cards do they run
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>>163232812
Run 3 urds and 3 mordecais

have fun with a board full of 5 mordecai
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>>163232449
Yes.

You get 3 bodies on the board and 2 pings.
That is easily worthwhile.
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>>163232007
I made the deck and went into unranked.

Just finished two games. The first one got a 3/4 AE and conceded when I play my first follower which was Spartoi Soldier. Next guy conceded before my 1st turn. I think it's working.
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>>163232294
Plenty of dragon decks do that
Given they are the most expensive decks in the game
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>>163232381
I LOVE THIS FUCKING GAME.
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>>163232896

This is why i enjoy elena/seraph.

The stress of fighting against seraph is absolutely nerve wrecking, but when you are the seraph player it feels like you are much more in control and comfy zone.
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>>163232906
i'm talking about minor shit like not even attacking with the guy before you urd it. just had a dragon use it on aeila without killing one of my 1/1's first
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>>163232812
>tfw I use Urd as the ultimate board control tool
Probably one of my favorite cards in the game.
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>>163232896
>play banner against anyone
>all games are exactly the same
>by turn 5 you know if you win or lose
its a solitaire of its own
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>>163232449
Yes. Don't focus too much on fortresses or bat cards, they might not come up at all. If you have an option for face damage and board presence with vanias, taking it is usually worth it.
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>>163232812
>topdecked Urd at just the right moment to save my ass from a fat Ancient Elf I didn't have the tools to stop twice today

Best wife.
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>I did it, I won!
>after losing 6 in a row because of absolutely shitty topdecks

Fuck off, Vampy. Fuck this shitty deck.
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>>163233034
>opponent plays ancient elf before attacking with all his fairies
>>
New thread time

>>163233180
>>163233180
>>163233180
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>>163232812
Urd's the best fucking card in the game and doesn't get nearly enough love. The excuse to run Urd is enough reason alone for me to pick up a deck.
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>>163232896
I hate the dshift matchup a lot as sword as well, feels like like 50/50 matchup with midsword. If he hits his Levis and I can't get decent board and face damage established by t5 I'm usually toast.
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This is a Japanese 3 headed hellhound.
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>>163233169
play control you pleb
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>>163232896
>Playing aggro forest against Dshit
>Couldn't draw Roach, Liza no where in sight
>Vomit Faries everywhere and pray, my prayer gets answered with Angelic barrages on turns 3 and 5.
>Starting to feel desperate, but Liza finally shows up on turn 6, desperate struggle to fill the board. Finally managed a Evolved Tia + Liza combo on turn 8.
>Tits drops Flame destroyer and evolves it. It's all over.
>But no DS to be found. She angelic snipes me three times in the face and ends turn. I notice she only has 4 cards left in hand.
>Drop Ancient Elf and combo with Liza again next turn, Tits plays a 9-cost DS, and promptly concedes next turn. Never did I get my roach.

Sometime you just have to believe in someone else's misfortune.
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>>163232896
Yeah out of all my decks I only like playing against Elf with DShift.
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>>163233135

To me that is awful. Its like a stressful race to not become useless and lose.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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