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Dragonewt Country Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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Stormed: >>163206281
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>>163233180
Nice vagina bones, Charlotte
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>>163233212
reynad thinks it's overrated and a noob trap
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>>163233180
nth for Luna is cute.
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Post 4 Banner
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Remember to make sure your clergywomen are infertile!
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>>163233313
the fuck does reynad knows about anything
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>83 losing streak
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>atomeme gets DoD'd two turns in a row

why
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>>163233329
the flavor text is the best because people shit on banner all the time jajaja
>>163233360
he's rank 1 legend in hearthstone
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>>163233373
stop trying to play neutral ptp, dingus.
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The daily gods have spoken.

Please forgive me for what I am about to do, /svg/.
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>it's a "draw your late-game against aggro blood" episode
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>>163233450
>arturian memes
Absolute madman
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>>163233450
Arthurian Light? That seems so stupid that I'm convinced there's a secret trick to it I don't understand.
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>>163233313
I've watched him try to play storm haven

Why do people think he's not retarded at all is beyond me.
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>>163233373
Are you like using default decks in A rank and above or something?
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>>163233313
Threadly reminder card reviews are always wrong because you can't analyze a card in a vacuum. Also Reynad is pretty shitty at card predictions/reviews and the like.
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>>163233540
it + leonidas' resolve meme
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>>163233373
Stop your shitty meme
or post your deck to get bullied
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>sandbagging for over a month

I regret wasting so much time. Could be AA0 by now.
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>gain over 100 for a win
>lose less than 80 for a loss
when am I supposed to be stuck at a rank in this shit system?
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>just got over 700 wins
>still half way through AA2
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>>163233373
Are you trying to test how long it takes to sandbag your way from Top of B3 back to beginning of B0?
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>>163233387
Rebuttal.
He puts pegasus in storm haven.
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>>163233313
I think she is solid in storm haven and possibly in post-RoB certain shadow decks. You shouldn't just ram her into any deck though.
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>>163233583
sure you could have anon
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>>163233387
how a card fair in hearthstone has literally nothing to do with how good it is in shadowverse.
just look at spartoi soldier and silverback patriarch
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>>163233568
this
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>>163233450
What the hell are you even trying to do with that deck
>Avant blader lmao
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>>163233584
When you get out of gutter ranks
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>>163233313
Tell me more about this Reynad character and his opinions.
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>>163233373
This can't possibly be real, certainly at some point someone would've turn 0 surrendered.
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>>163233583
>Covering your name on your main account
>And both IDs
What a fucking faggot.
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>>163233595
>450 wins
>Middle of A1
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>>163233373
>Diary of a sandbagger
Here's another (You) by by the way.
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>>163233637

She's also potent in dragon, come RoB she's going to be even more busted in dragon.
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>>163233716
not if they see you are playing dragon
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>>163233702
what is the gutter ranks, so I can know when?
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>>163233637
I'm calling it now, she's gonna be crazy good in a Last Words Nephthys deck. Being able to detonate and resummon stuff like Lurching Corpse, Khawy, etc. is gonna be an absolute godsend.
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>Mango reviewing 2 weeks old leaks
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>>163233584
No more winstreaks from A onward, and from A onward you gain/lose 100 for a lesser or equal opponent, and get a little leniency for a higher ranked opponent on the gain/loss.
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>>163233382
should've gotten him off turn 2
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>>163233583

> B3

nigga please
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This is your Jeanne for tonight
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>>163233935
miss her so much lads
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>>163233843
I'm in A though, I gain more than what I lose. I mean I go on winning streaks, but it can't be that the bonus is still there. Can it be? I just think the system is shit in general at this point.
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>>163233782
Didn't consider that addition. I think too many people will shove in all the LW followers and be surprised when they lose though.
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>>163233782
>It's a hard world out there, and sometimes things seem like they will never change
>But don't give up anon, you have the power to create miracles. I believe in you. I will always be in your corner; always by your side.

Is there a better wife material?
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>mfw I've first 9 times in a row
Sometimes I feel this game wants me to fail
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BURD
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>>163233782
I'd definitely run Urd in a Nephthys deck even at the risk of killing a Nephthys play.

Though personally, I plan on running a last words control kit without Nephthys, just abusing Urd and Necroassassin first.
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>>163234068
going first isn't bad depending on the matchup. it's actually a 50/50 good or bad thing.
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>>163233782
She has great synergy with Lurching Corpse, especially since the opponent is not going to want to kill that thing until they can minimize risk of losing their big guys.
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>>163233782

It's going to be a competition between Dragon and Necro to see who can make people salty about Urd.

That's what I think.

>Dragon can use Urd to draw an extra 3 on top of the other stuff they're doing now (albiet off-curve)
>Necro gets to combo on curve for an extra lich

Personally I think Necro will be making better use of her.
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Forte changed to 5pp 5/2, unattackable, fanfare: if overflow is active, gain storm
Better now?
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>>163234121
But I never draw my 1 drops and I play sword.
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Luna's tits are canon
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Patch when? Aggrobat doesn't even fucking work at C0. I remember people climbing to Master with just bats.
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>>163233993
> gain more than what I lose.
Because you get matched against people of higher ranks.
A sees a lot of early AA matchups which are still pretty easy.
My progress didn't slow down until I hit AA and started seeing AA2+ players.
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>>163234119
>killing

On an empty board that's still 3 other roles.
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>>163233993
You are meant to eventually get to masters if you put in the time, the system is built to propel anyone who can get close to (not even) 50%+ win rate onward and up.
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>>163234207
Nope that makes it shit.
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>>163234119

Doesn't Nephthys only call out shadowcraft followers? I thought they were making some "not trash" neutrals partially for Nephthys.
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>>163234223
post deck, so I can see how many 1 drops you have. Also, that doesn't mean going first is the problem, it's your draws.
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>>163234256
just get more luck bro :^)
t. luckshitters
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>>163233583
>>163233912
Are we posting them now? After playing Hearthstone for about a year and a half I find this game to be better on delivering a ranked experience, even if I'm technically still on a "beginner" rank.
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>>163234256
The sandbagging japanese netdickers have completed their tier 1 decks.
It's over for budget aggro
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>>163234207
You made her much worse. She needs to do damage, not have easier access to protection.
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>>163233935
But mother, I want this Jeanne.
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>>163234106
[CAW]

>>163234297
She'll call out random followers (except Nephthys) with different costs.
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>>163234256
I routinely got 15+ win streaks down in C and low Bs with bats. It absolutely punishes non-optimized decks.

It's much more of a struggle in A now.
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>>163234106
best burd
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the lads
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>>163234256
People here also say you can't climb with DShift but I always see Japanese in Master with only Rune played like this guy https://twitter.com/AkaneGG/status/809357394920603649
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>>163234386
? I asked for a deck, not what Neph does. I already prepared for her.
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>>163234328
>48 wins
>in C

Anon you don't really have the experience to call that kind of thing.
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>>163234386
Meant for >>163234291
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>>163234462
Lightweight
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>>163234256
You are doing something wrong? Aggro bat/shadow, face dragon and bannermeme still works fine in C.
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>>163234462
Some of the top ladder guys are playing Dshift, I don't buy into the notion that it's a loser's deck at all.
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Bane?
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>>163234457

not in the right order 6/10
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>>163234024
Possibly, although it should be pretty obvious to most that you can only run followers of 4 different costs if you want to (mostly) remove the RNG from Nep. Since you wanna fit Urd in, you're gonna run Hell's Unleasher for a 50% Lich chance with Nep, and then it comes down to preference, which in my case is gonna be Mordecai at 8, Khawy at 7, and an assortment of LW 2-drops.

>>163234159
Oh absolutely, it's gonna be wonderful getting Corpse off more than once. Getting to drop Urd on Khawy would also be insane, although that'll probably never happen.

>>163234179
Dragon might find some fun uses for her, but using that draw option means the Dragon player would probably be running discard.dek, and so far that's still suicide-tier even with the new leaks - and drawing more cards is the opposite of fixing that problem. Shadow just has so many great ways to play her now, it's gonna be a blast.
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how come cursed general doesn't see more play?
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>>163234548
That guy has been streaming DShift on niconico almost every day and also plays at work in his break and tweets about it.
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>>163234484
Maybe I think like that because I'm really fucking burned out of hs right now. The new expansion pretty much took away what little enjoyment I got from the game.
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>>163234256
Bannermemes can still get you masters. Aggro bats gets fucked hard by some of the top decks now that everyone knows the matchup and is running them.
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>>163234548
How does master point work? 1176 mean he is top 1176? So their is like 1175 people better than him? Or is it 1176 win this month?

Really makes you think.
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>>163234619
Drain?
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>>163234652
I'm honestly of the opinion that people killing themselves with Discard is more a problem with not enough people bothering to properly learn the deck (not that I can blame them with their complete lack of tools until now) and blindly spamming Altered Fate and Angel Crusher.
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Finished my first t2, how'd I do?
>Lost the second game against haven with endless answers
>Somehow pulled through against sword with otohime 6 on last game
To be fair I had a Lord of the Flies or two drafted.
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what counters dshift?
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>>163234695
>burned out after 48 games
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>>163234754
banner
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>>163234654
He doesn't live a turn, is too much mana to combo and would comes out too late and would only work with the "give ambush" followers which is too unreliable.
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>>163234654
Requires vengeance to be worth dropping for the most part. It's a tech option if you find yourself racing other decks and losing. But if you are facing opponents that outvalue your drops and take over the board, she is close to useless.
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>>163234754
All the aggro and storm decks. Or just rush the person down.
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>>163234754
Most fast Aggro decks
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>>163234760
>HURR DURR I CANT READ
I said burned out of hs. Hearthstone = hs you fucking nigger.
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>>163234685
His win rate is also a lot higher than Shadowlog's DShift rates always are.
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>>163234754
go fast and dont evolve your 2 drops
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>>163234652
I want to get Corpse off more than once!
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>>163234725
It means he has like ~10-11 net gain of wins under his belt this month. Probably a screenshot taken not long after monthly reset.
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>>163234745
Disco's gotten some real good tools too.

3pp 2/3 FF: deal 2, discard a cardThat is fantastic.
Kit is value incarnate for discards, though I wish he discarded at 1pp so he'd have priority over 2pp drops for disco.
Auxite Dragon allows you to refill your hand, probably with the goal of draining it with things like trail of light and kit as priority mulligans so you don't lose valuables.
Owl Guardian is protection and removal.
Ancient Dragoon is a solid wincon.
Rites can be tutored out (albeit on turn 4) now, giving at least some draw.

Honestly it might work.
MIGHT.
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>>163234652
Probability wise, running more differently costed followers with great effects is better than running only the same cost followers. This is because having multiples of different costs increases your chance of not pulling something like Urd or Ghosthound. The way the RNG probably works is that is chooses a value and then randomly chooses minions from that cost, meaning that if you have multiple values to choose from, the probability of you pulling something with last words is increased.

1PP x2 Soul Conversion
2PP x3 Lurching Corpse
2PP x2 Bellringer Angel
2PP x3 Ghosthound Sexton
2PP x3 Skullcradle Widow
3PP x3 Pact with the Nethergod
3PP x3 Follower of Darkness
3PP x3 Foul Tempest
4PP x3 Hell's Unleasher
4PP x2 Urd
6PP x3 Death's Breath
6PP x2 Balor
7PP x2 Underworld Watchman Khawy
8PP x3 Nephthys
8PP x3 Mordecai the Duelist

While this list is obviously not perfect (since, of course, it hasn't been actually playtested), it holds high odds on different pulls you can get, all of them granting you good effects.
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>>163234552
I guess I've been facing too much Elana's and Ward decks. Can't get past a 3 Win Streak.
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>>163234834
Whoops, thinking of the wrong card. delete this
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>>163234754
bats, aggro dragon, banner
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>tfw feel like buying a few legos but RoB out is coming soon
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How many wins should it take to get to Master
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>>163235001
Too heavy!
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This is your toy for tonight
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>>163235110
~600-800
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>>163234996
I think dragon is an unplayable mess right now and I think there is nothing wrong with discard dragon.

I do think cygames is fucking garbage for completely fucking over any other version of dragon except aggro though.
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What if the RoB meta is just the DE meta with each archetype getting an extra card!? WHAT WILL WE DO THEN?
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>>163235125
Yeah, I know. I wasn't trying to make an actual deck, just showing how the probablity can be maxed.
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>>163235105
RoB is coming out soon*
derp
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>It's a Commander so its automatically bad
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>>163235001
so with this list you'd have
2,4,6,7,8

So assuming your board is empty you'd have 4 pulls.
2,4,6,7 is the worst pull you could get. The worst being Sexton, Urd, Balor, Khawy.

So worst case what would happen is this:
You would get a 5/5 on the board, 4 shadows, deal 3AoE, and eat their highest atk follower and heal for its atk. That is still pretty damn good.

That's not bad at all.
I honestly hate that decklist and think it'll die on turn 5-6 most games, but it is a good example of the power of neptits and building around her.
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I really want to know if Nephthy's chooses a value before checking the follower, because if that's the case I might try a list with singleton Mordecai.
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>>163235138
Can you post the ones for Vania and Luna if you have them?
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I fucking hate card games.
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>>163233912
How many conceeds does it take to get there? Im at the edge of C3 into B and im think of sandbagging
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>>163235243
Like I said in a previous answer, it isn't an attempt to make a working deck, since we need to playtest with the actual cards first. It's just to demonstrate that even with the worst possible outcome, you're getting something real good, just like you demonstrated.
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>>163235138
>>163235305

Vania's sprites
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>>163234256
>aggrobat doesn't even work at C0
Try again.
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>>163235138
>>163235305

Luna's sprites
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I am A3 and aggro bats is still viable
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>>163235517
>After being bullied by bald men for so long Luna snaps and shaves her own head
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>>163235416
post deck
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>>163235416
Woah. What's your deck? I'm doing fine with my deck but that's impressive. I'd love to know what differences there are.
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Post your favourite common in Rise.

I'm starting off by taking the obvious 3 of in every deck from now until the end of time.
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>>163235138
>two sprites for tiddies

>>163235395
>lmao 1 chest piece

i think we can agree who is superior
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>make elana deck
>go from a0 to a2
>feel like an asshole
>never play elana again
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>>163235517
Do forte pls
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>>163235001
Not really, though - the best way to max her probability is to make it stop being a probability at all. Played on an empty board, she'll pull 4 different costs of followers; if you only run 4 different costs of followers, she'll pull roughly the same things every time. For example, say your lineup of followers is Bellringer, Skullcrade, Corpse, Urd, Unleasher, Khawy, and Mordecai. With just these, your Nep play is as follows (not taking into account followers that are already out of the deck):

2pp follower: 66% chance to draw a card, 33% to destroy a random enemy follower
4pp follower: 50% chance to summon a Lich, 50% chance to brick with Urd
7pp follower: 100% chance to get Khawy's effect
8pp follower: 100% chance to get Mordecai

As long as you can resist running followers of other costs, this is the most consistent Nep will be. Of course, you could drop Urd for 100% Lich chance, but personally I think she's useful enough to risk missing out on a 4/4 vanilla body roughly half the time.
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>>163235576
I'm at the very end of A3 and Aggro Bats probably had the highest win rate in the bracket for me. A3 is dominated by Haven during my play hours and Bats does a great job preying on the match up.
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>>163235138

Assemble your own dork
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>Want to play forest
>Only have one Ancient Elf and one Tia
Is the next expansion spicing up Tempo Forest? Or is it remaining the same?
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>>163235601
>>163235626
Last 5 cards are 3 Imp Lancers and 2 Demonic Storms. To be honest this deck isn't anything special but it works.
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>>163235260
Let's check the math on this. Say she does calculate based on mana cost first.

So for ease of math say you play neptits on turn 8 and never, ever get any extra draw.
No widows, no soul conversions, no going second.
and say you never get mordecai on your mulligan.
Then you have a 22% of drawing him before you play neptits.

If you draw 2 extra cards, so say a single soul conversion, then there's a 28% of having him, and 32.5% if you draw 4 extra cards.

I'm not sure. You're looking at probably 1/4-1/3 games where it will be impossible for nep to get him. But you also greatly lessen the chance of just drawing a mordecai before turn 8, which is basically a dead draw as opposed to multiple mordecais for straight . I do not know, it might be worth doing him as a one-off.
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>>163235916
I reckon we have the same deck famalam. I'm just surprised how you aren't going against some sort of Elana or ward infested decks with that streak.
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>>163235669
This picture lacks the best "Nah." of all time.
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>have to play Bannershit
NO
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>>163235816
I don't think Tempo Forest will change much at all with the expansion.

3x Ancient Elf will probably be Forest core until the day the deck dies. You can get away with less Tias in PtP right now, and I'm sure there're going to be builds with 0 Tia running around in Rise meta to make room for the new cards.
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>>163235916
>>163235601
>>163235626
Forgot the image
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>>163235776
Personally think Mord is too heavy with Nep. You're already getting a 5/5, another one seems like overkill and other effects seem more helpful like Balor or Ghostly Rider which also probably let the game last long enough to get that far.
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>>163235816
the xpac looks like it's gonna fuck tempo forest right in the ass.

Control Forest is what's getting support, though most of the cards that aren't maahes and white wolf range from bad to okay.

With Crystallia being an outsider of "I'm not sure"
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>>163235805
>dat torso
Yes, yes!
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>>163235138

Latham finally closes his mouth!
Sorta.
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This is why i cant play Ptp, RNG always fucks me

sometimes they came with 2 altered fates right next to them
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>>163235816
I think Rhinoceroach does more work than Tia or Ancient Elf fampai.
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Where can I see all the revealed Bahamut cards in one place?

Trying to figure out how much vials I'll need for new Control Blood cards
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>>163235776
But you have to understand the following: You need to put things on board to survive until turn 8. Just running removal and making her your only wincon would be really dumb. Having more choices for what can happen and having more actual good effects makes it so no matter how many followers you used before, the effect will still be good. Like this you have a 50% chance to brick with Urd. With my example, you have around a 12.5% chance to brick entirely. My point is that more variety would convey similar effects and brick less often.

Follower of Darkness, for example, is basically having extra Hell's Unleashers. This means your Best case scenario will also improve.
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>>163236032
we have almost the same deck, yet for some reason, I can't get winstreaks with it in A
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>fall for the sandbagging meme
>see this just now
Duh fuck did they always do this shit? I dont remember seeing this last month, how hard is it to break into the top 1000?
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New player here, with a retarded question.

I started playing on Steam a few days ago, and I don't have a phone to link my game to to get those x3 free packs for linking (my phone is shit, old, can't handle the game, etc). Is there anything else to link the game to, or is it just phone and Steam?
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>>163236117

Everything revealed is on the official site. We're just missing like 8 cards or so, which we don't know yet.
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/
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>>163236117
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Blood got lots of love.
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>>163236175
You can use an android emulator.
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>>163236175
use emulator my dude
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>>163236071
>bent sword
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>Hungering Horde
>Bloodcraft - 2PP - Spell
>Deal 3 damage to an enemy follower and all other followers that share the same name.

Holy fuck it's real, I saw it earlier in the doc but didn't believe it

>erase Death's Breath for 2pp
>remove all bats/fairies/guardiangolems/etc. for 2pp
>leave Otohime guardless for 2pp

This card might singlehandedly throw control blood into T1, holy shit
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>>163236216
>>163236237

A what? Not sure what that is. Never really did any phone game shit or anything like that so I dunno anything about emulating phone shit.
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>>163236194
>>163236204

Thanks I wasn't aware they updated the site with the new reveals. I'm used to Hearthstone where it's a clusterfuck of streamers and random chinese sites getting card reveals and someone has to keep track of it all.
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>>163236174
So confused on if i should continue sandbgging or try to climb into top 1000 that i forgot my pic
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>>163236017
>>163236039
>>163236089
Thanks for the insight my dudes. By the way, should I craft the Rinoceroaches? I'm actually planning on not buying DE packs since I've gotten most of what I need, aside from those, the other Tias and at least one Levi.
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>>163236287
>yet another T1 deck countered by Dshift
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>>163236175

If your old phone has the game available on the store anyway, and have enough space (about 600MB), just install it and link your accounts.

You don't have to play any matches that might lag or crash the game.
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should i put otohime in my bannememe deck
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>>163236295
its as easy as typing in google android emulator my dude
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How to play non-aggro shadow?
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>>163236359
>netdecker in charge of deckbuilding
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>>163233583

Why do people even censor?

I get the meme by censoring everything to joke about it, but really.

Are they afraid people are gonna send them pizzas?
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>>163236287
The long forgotten rivalry between Blood and Shadow returns, except this time, Blood doesn't have a 10% match up.
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>>163236359
sure, if you're not using Maid Leader. And then you can throw in Aurelia.
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>>163236174
>>163236297

They announced it at the very start of December.
It seems that they'll be doing this every month now to encourage Master players to continue playing the game.
Not sure what rewards the following months we'll get but expect it to be the same format of animated legendaries + rupies
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>>163236135
FoD actually makes me consider running urd and necroassassin.

Sure you'd have a brick of a 4drop from neptits pulls, but it would greatly strengthen your game before then.

I'd also consider keeping some way of having ghosts just for soul conversion, ghost trades, and just the sheer utility they bring.

I'm feeling that going for a guaranteed amazing nep pick ain't gonna be the best shot. Instead you're gonna want to build it so you can never brick that badly. So like you're always guaranteed 1-2 real good pulls from her, with a mixture of good to bad mixed in, shit that will allow you to really build board and keep theirs in check.
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>Bloodhungry Matriarch

Fuck, should I craft another Vampire Queen now or wait until the expansion is out?
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>>163236359
No leggo banner is more consistent imo
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>>163236404
Actually trade and aim to win after turn 6, i think
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>Die monster, you don't belong in this world!
>>
>in D rank
>being placed against B rank people

Is this game dying?
>>
can someone explain why its so satisfying to crop faces from images?
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>>163236578
But shadow has no competent cards for that kind of play, unless you want to meme with Tyrant
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>>163236619
Unrank?
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>>163236618

Him and Urias were bros though
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that's it
I'm buying all the legos for a top tier deck
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>>163236509
Matriarch seems more like a midrange thing. If you already have 2 then I wouldn't though, and I would only craft her if you really want to play control right now.
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>>163236495
Exactly my point. You don't want 1 result, you want multiple results. Even in the worst case scenario, it's 4 Shadows, a Card Draw and destruction of something (maybe even board clear with Balor's Effect), with 2 cards that don't do anything. Don't know about Necroassassin in a Nep deck though. I think it would fit the other varieties of Shadow a bit better. Probably Atomy Shadow, since you have that new ghost spell and more disposable things.
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>>163236667
No, was in ranked for my D3 and got matched against B1
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>>163236619
Those ranks are so fast, most people might be in b rank.


>>163236650
I do.
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>4chan is getting shadowverse adds now
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>>163236287
Combine that with Veight the 3pp ward of value, Duke Zoofucker
Sadistic Night, possible one of the best removals in the game
and Blood Hungry Empress, board eater
Control and MR blood are gonna be in happy places.

Hell Moriana looks fun and might see play, Wolfman is gonna be great in arena, Behemoth is a solid threat, Squall Lancer is alright, and Warfiend is gonna be stupid good in arena topdeck wars.

Blood is in a happy place.
I can see a few blood decks coming from this, some not really using much self damage.
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>>163236743
fucking slag hang
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So, ideas on how would the meta look like post RoB now that almost all the cards have been seen? Or is this sort of thing always hard to predict?
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>>163236743
>these ladies want you to come and play
They act like its a porn game ad.
I hope this is a shoop.
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>>163236743
link me your favorite miku songs, faggot
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>>163236743
Hiro is keeping your data safe
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Digging through the files and found this.

I don't remember Losaria turning into a shade at any point of the story. I'm probably just remembering it wrong since it's been so long.
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These are very big Unicas
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>>163236876
might just be unused shit
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>>163236404
Shadow's basically the king of grinding, you just wear out the opponent by either eating their followers with removal and trades or eating their spells with sticky followers then plop down Death's Breath, Lord or Mordecai and hit them until they're dead.
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>>163236876
Alternate Leader Losaria when?
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>>163236876

Losaria best girl
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>>163236135
Except you're playing Shadow, so not only can you coast on your great removal options (Foul Tempest, Deathbrand/Pact of the Nethergod, etc.) but you can just use spells that summon followers, such as Death's Breath, to avoid having more followers clog your Nep chances.

Also, no, that doesn't make your best case scenario improve at all, because as soon as you add in a 5th follower cost you're rolling with a 20% chance of not getting Mordecai, and that just goes up every time you add another cost. Ideally you want to be closing the game on turn 9, and that's not gonna happen without Mordecai - not with how many AoE boardwipes are about to be running about. In my case, the best-case scenario is a draw or a removal, a Lich, Khawy's heal+removal, and Mordecai, while my worst-case scenario is a draw or a removal, no Lich, Khawy's heal+removal, and Mordecai. Meanwhile, your best-case is roughly the same, but your worst-case is dreadful things like nothing from Sexton at 2, one Lich from Follower of Darkness at 3, nothing from Urd at 4, and hopefully a Balor/Khawy/Mordecai in the last slot, which is infinitely less effective than my worst-case scenario.

tl;dr it's better to sacrifice follower pressure on turn 3 than to deal with high probabilities of missing Mordecai on Nep, which in many matchups will outright cost you the game.
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>>163236876
best girl
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>>163236915
>avant blader
lose well deserved :)
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>>163236991
Yeah, i can't find it a good at all
It makes me lose so much time
>6 lsoe streak with Bannershit
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>>163236991
I love this meme.
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>>163236876
So PtP Forest is Losaria's deck?
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>>163236743
Please stop slandering Eris, she is only 25.
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>>163236618
>>163236692

Do you think they... you know...?
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>>163236950
>>163236979
>best girl
>almost 0 lines
She's also a puppet. I wonder, whatta fuck is wrong with you keddit.
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DE or Standard pack

I blame you if it's shit
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>>163237027
>>163237028
:thinking:
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>>163237113
DE
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>>163237113
DE for better gold
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>>163237113
DE higher chance of pulling leggos.
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>>163236860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiUjG9fF3zw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kX5_69sO8Q
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Post Dirt Rune please. I really feel like building a wall right now.
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This is your Princess for tonight.
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>>163236509
I don't really see the point of matriarch
Control blood as already enough damage from hand that a glorified demonic storm is not really gonna do much
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What're your thoughts on Selwyn's Command?
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>>163237251
thanks anon saving everything
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>>163237139
You better don't listen to my oppinion
I have terrible winrate with Banner, can't take it out from unranked at example
>7 lose streak right now
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>>163237278
ripped off haven
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Alucard fucking sucks why does anyone run this shitter
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>>163237278
the card art's pretty cool
whats it do?
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>>163237251
I guess she died?
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>>163237251
I love her design and I'm disappointed that we might never see her again.
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Here's your Swordcraft leader for tonight.
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>>163237278
I think it's a pretty versatile card, and will definitely see play.
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>>163237143
>>163237174
>>163237181
4th Curse oh boy

I've already liquefied 2
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>>163237332
>4/4 storm with a potential 4 heal
>shit
I bet you think Gilgamesh is shit, too.
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>>163237104
Anon the personalities and storylines in this game are atrocious.
Not having that forced on her is a plus.
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>>163237402
I guess you can say that you are cursed to get this card haha
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>>163237278
Might work in aggro decks

And by that I mean they just want it for the Storm and will never use the enhance effect.
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>>163237437
LOL
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>>163236860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSojYMzTl_c&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c10o4Bksr3Y&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU6PL0LH4_Y&index=57&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA
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>>163237251
Why couldn't Erika's design look this good?
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>>163237350
Summon a 2/1 Storm. At Enhance (8) it also adds a 0-cost Selwyn to your hand.
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>>163237278
Printing spells for underused Gold followers? I want them to print a 2PP spell Summon a Shadow Reaper Enhance (8) Instead, destroy all followers, then summon a Shadow Reaper and give it +X/+X for each allied follower destroyed.
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>>163237406
He is anon
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I have enough vials to craft another Queen Vampire, what should I get rid of to fit her in?

I'm thinking I should get rid of the Temptress Vampire, she's just too fucking slow
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>>163237254
>>163237332
Real idiot hours right now.
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>>163235517
>>163235305
>>163235138

>Bald women
>>
>9 Lose streak with Banner Sword
What i am doing wrong with a "Play Followers on curve" deck?
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>>163237545
eufags woke up
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>>163236707

stop anon!
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>>163237569
Video your games.
>>
I just had a rude Havencraft player spam "Hello" 4-5 times a second.

Are there some macros that allow them to do that, or can you actually do it in this game if you're fast on the mouse?

I thought the Steam version was a direct port of the iOS/Android ones, aka, all actions have some delay.
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>>163237424
It's no wonder she's a disposable vessel.
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>>163237569
You didnt become one with the face
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>>163236404

Control the board, go face pretty much only when they don't have a follower to trade with.

Foul Tempest is great anti-zoo, Playful Necromancer is awesome as a drop on turn 4 if you're second. Charon, LotF, etc.

Your aim is to be able to put the board in a state where you can do 10-15 points of damage in a single turn to win, or try to outvalue and grind them if you can't. Don't be afraid to use Cerberus cards to trade, the +2 or straight 2 can do miracles for maintaining board state.
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>>163237569
What happened in those nine games? Banner can be sorta kinda ugh if everyone you met angelic barrage you.
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>>163237629
This is strictly my assumption, but I've always assumed that they just did it manually at an average speed but the internet delay delivers all of them to you at once.
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>>163237629

1. Hoover over the emote
2. Click/press/tap it rapidly in succesfion
3. 3 emotes in 0,5 seconds no matter the platform

there u go
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>>163237254
Because she doesn't hit your board and oftentimes I find myself with a bat or two leftover on my board at the end of turn 6-7, so anything that she doesn't kill outright and turn into pings, will be damaged enough that I will likely be able to kill it with a token ping. Will that still be a thing now that all these AoE's are being added? I dunno.

But having a turn 7 enemy-side only AoE that turns all kills into face pings could definitely see use in blood. A slightly weaker demonic storm with a 4/5 body, that is a must-remove on the scale of bloody mary, and is really bad to trade into for killing?
That can easily see play in control, it's fucking great.

You play this after they play tia and you clear at least everything sans Eve, deal 3dmg to face, and if you evolve into tia, it's a full board clear and 4 to their face.
You take no dmg to anything else on your board, nor any face dmg and are left with a 6/1 empress.
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What is /svg/'s opinion on Kana "Kanashii" Yuuki, voice actor for the main heroine of Shadowverse, the hit online TCG?
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>>163237630
You have to admit, she makes a cute abomination heralding the approaching apocalypse.
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>>163237761
>samefagging newfaggotry with new IP
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>>163237761
why would people here have any opinion on irrelevant shit like that
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>>163237761
Probably does JAV
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>>163236978
Well, I'm talking from a mathematical standpoint. We don't know what's going to work until we playtest. Maybe you're right, maybe I am. We can only wait and see for now.

Removal isn't going to win you the game though. Remember they have 20 health, and that if you haven't made a considerable dent into that by the point you pull Nep out, you aren't going to win.

They can easily dispatch Nep, leaving you with a Mordecai and maybe some small amount of health. Having just what you said would pretty much guarantee death early because you can't deal damage for your win con to work.

You can't depend just on Death's Breath either, since the board wipes in this expansion came in big numbers.

What I imply with variety is: Nep is just there to help, and not to win you every single game. You also have to think you need to actually draw her, and if you don't, you're screwd.

I'm not saying my list is godlike or anything; it's really heavy. But having at least an amount of variety is better than only running 5 or 6 different followers and being way too far away from lethal.

You do have a point in the aspect that if it doesn't have RNG, you're guaranteed a good result. Although, probability states that the average result in a large pool of variety is better than the best result in a single choice result, for the simple reason that situations differ.

The other LW followers are there to be filler until you get to turn 8, pitching small amounts of damage enough for you to close in the game with Mordecai or Nep.

You must also consider that your board may also not be empty, and that Nep might not be a viable play. Having other choices to tech in at that time is better than being stuck with the rest.

But we'll have to wait and see. Like I said, you may be right, or I may be right. We can only find out after we play the actual expansion.
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>>163237761
She has a fetish for Luna. Just like me.
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Can I get a concede please
58870
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>>163237843
I hope
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>>163237802
Now you're getting it right. Nexus is top tier
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>>163237627
This and i am always falling for i must take control in deck who are supposed to face
I can't play these deck at all
>Probably going for 10 lose streak
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>>163237761
I don't like her. I like Arisa, though.
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> You're a solid fighter.

I laugh every time.
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>>163237857
>goes on about Luna in tight black stockings for like 30 seconds

Lesbian lolicon.
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>>163237541
>control blood
>can't control shit
>too many high pp cards
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How to gitgud with the sword deck without using banners?
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>>163237840
>erikafags this mad
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Balanced Old Wizard of 3 Face Damage and Outracing Aggro does it again!
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>>163238018
Pirates
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>>163237278
Eh, could see play in aggro.
Otherwise it seems pretty garbage.
Plus 3pp 2/1 storm is okay, honestly it's not that hot. 2atk storm is always good for 3pp, but dying to 1drops and tokens is bad.

Enhance effect is 8pp, and honestly that's not worth the cost, as 8pp is the wincon turn.
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>>163238018
If you can't play Bannermeme decks you should look for another game
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>>163237926
>losers mindset

Thanks for playing.
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>>163237926
Avant Blader lmao
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>>163238018
>gitgud
>at "no skill the class"
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>>163237541
-1 Blood Pact
-1 Alucard

+2 Wardrobe Raider

It's pretty underrated if you ask me.
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>>163237990
Are you okay?
Do you need to lie down?

Because you seem to be spouting gibberish.
That is a sign that you may be suffering a stroke.
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>>163238036

>he will become a searchable card in a deck that doesn't use 2 drop followers when RoB comes.

I'm worried
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>>163237843
>implying
Erika's the one that's done actual eroge.
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>>163238018
Sword is banner or wallet deck, pretty much. Not much in between.
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>>163237989
>full version of that image has Luna with giant tits while Arisa is still flat

Why do so many artists do this? Is there some kind of Japanese in-joke about Luna being oppai loli?
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>>163237861
My bad, I forgot the required cute anime girl image
Can I get it now please?
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>>163238018
Sword only has to play fundamental Shadowverse, there's really nothing you need to learn about "sword" to play it well past mulligans.

If you're losing a lot then you should worry about learning other decks so that you understand the match ups, even in that case you don't need to care about them nearly as much as Blood or Shadow do.
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>>163237989
Link?
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>3rd elanafag I've faced in a row disconnected on me
What the hell is their problem?
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>>163237541
Here's a list. Works well in A Rank. Got upwards of 6-7 winstreak with this.
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>>163238135
Maid keep fishing her
>Lose streak broke at last
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f72zxEe7vSM&list=PLSuRQBWZPmDoC1ukMGxn3HyhABEkpz6Lj&index=20

>dubfags will never get to experience this
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>Want to play more midrange decks
>Don't want to craft anything because the buyable decks will allow me to save a lot of vials
>Only have Face Dragon, Storm Haven, and Elana/Seraph decks (which I hate)

How do I have fun like this? Do I make a Discard Dragon deck?
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>>163238334
Isn't Olivia kind of unnecessary for a deck like this?

I'm curious about Bloodfed Flowerbed too but I really don't know shit about Blood.
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>>163238350
stop using Avant Blader, just use conscription at least, just stop using her.
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0-4 i will eat pizza
5-9 i will buy some packs
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>>163238207
It's probably the fact that her dress is so conservative it could be hiding anything. Also, fanartists play off each other, if a lot of the early art of a character is a certain way it tends to snowball.

>>163238284
Shadowverse Time 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1ZqIibQCY&t=720s
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>Keep bullying Vampy's followers
>Lose

Every time kek
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Holy shit lads I fucking did it
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>>163238135
>thinking Avant Blader is bad
I love this meme.
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>>163238449
EAT THE PIZZA
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>>163237861
>>163238231
Thanks skellybro
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>>163238350
>Still using Avant
Enjoy your bricks anon
Mentor's teachings is better
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>>163238475
Never got the point of control sword, just play Elana if you want to cuck aggro, that way you have tons of healing against burn from Face Dragon and Aggro Blood.
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>>163238475
>aggro deck doesn't brick and wins
>shitter feels a sense of accomplishment

every time
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>They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you, you will be worse. Rip and tear until it is done.
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Why don't we ever make fun of Zirnitra?
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>>163238441
I like her for late game, she sometimes wins me the game. You can tech her out and 1 Vampiric Kiss for 2 Alucards. Or tech her out for a 3rd Rev. It's up to you really. That list got me some winstreaks though.
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>>163237541
Okay first I'd say 3x wraith or none, fact is that 2x feels like you're half-assing it. You're gonna have a 50% less chance of having one turn 1 where they're great for board and less chance of having them turn 6+ for Mary Combos.
T
I'd say cut Night Horde down by 1, it's a good card, but running 3x feels like overkill. 2x is enough that you can reliably draw it when you need it, but not that it clutters your draws.

Yes you should get another Queen Vampire, she is amazing and just makes bats so much better. Those 1/1 wards are so versatile.

I'd cut an alucard, he's great but 3x feels a bit much as he isn't very spammable.

I'd honestly say add another Temptress Vampire. She wins you so many control matchups. She, combined with Revelation and Mary, allow you to actually control the game against any non-dshift control deck. She singlehandedly wins many elana fights. Take out a fatty, heal, and get a 5/5 on the board, or unavoidable 5dmg to face. She's great as a finisher or at grinding your opponent down.

I have no idea how you can think she's too slow.
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>>163238495

>has no space in midrange because aurelia is fucking broken

>has no space in banner because aggro deck

lmao at you
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>>163237961
>There's no one else I rather lose to
Except for literally everyone else.
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>>163237845
Fair enough, you make some pretty good points. I still don't personally think the average result of your list will beat the best result of mine, but you have a very strong point in that the deck's going to need to be playtested in the new meta before such things can be so clearly defined. Maybe having more followers will be necessary due to how many will be drawn out of the deck before Nep hits, or maybe certain matchups will need things like Balor to be winnable.

I see Nep as much more of a wincon I suppose, like Seraph in a pure Seraph Haven list; a 5/5, an undying 5/5, a heal, 1-2 removals, maybe a 4/4, and maybe a draw seems like it'll be enough to close a game, since most of these new AoEs stop at 3 damage, which won't ever fully clear the presence Nep establishes. But again, I could end up being wrong here, in which case you'd be right and Nep would just be helping you establish dominance in the late-game without actually being a wincon herself.

Long story short, I agree with ya. We won't know for sure until we get our hands on the cards ourselves, so all we can do here is speculate. Still, speculating is fun_, so thanks for providing a perspective I didn't consider before.
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>>163238564
Everytime I see someone using Elana Prayer in early game I just quit.

Good to hear it got nerfed to 7 points.
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>>163238589
Because she's a fine card in power level that just has no place in the post-DE meta. If something costs that much PP it has to have an much bigger immediate impact.

The game has gotten way too fast, we really need more disruption. Still an advocate for hand disruption.
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>>163238170
I just crafted 3 of him for d-shift and he is disgustingly effective
2 drop that can be played on curve, or can be used like a cheaper dragon warrior that can hit face and spellboost your hand
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>>163238471
>>163237989
>Erika making pig noises in the background
Wew lad
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>>163238660
lmao at this meme
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>>163238660
>thinks you play avant on curve

why is this board filled with shitters?
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>>163238442
>>163238559
Removed Avant and replaced with Conscription
2 Maids fished it twice instead of the Banner again
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>>163238660
>aurelia is fucking broken
How many more spicy memes you got for me?
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>>163238718
>nerfed to 7 points
source? I haven't actually seen any balance changes done yet.
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>>163238718
>Good to hear it got nerfed to 7 points.
LOL
it did not
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>>163238718
>still memeing about Elana nerfs

It's not happening you aggro cuck, besides Elana is far down the list of shit that needs to be nerfed, if you want to hurt Haven then do something about Beastcall Aria first.
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>>163233705
He's a whiny crybaby who is also a thirsty nerd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al4E5A3MITU He played tinder on stream, I don't think he got any bitches.
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>change name to 計画通り for the memes
>immediately start misplaying every game

fugg
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>>163238698
You're welcome Anon. Thank you as well for showing your perspective. :D
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>>163238718
Pussy
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COME ON SHOW ME THE OTHER PREBUILTS SO I KNOW WHAT I SHOULD VIAL FOR.
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>>163238718
I don't even need Elana you sucker
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>>163238796
>Drawing shitty 2 drops
>Good
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>>163238815
Not him but aurelia is broken.
Like most of the other shit sword and forest has.
She's got fucking vanilla stats if dropped versus an empty board.
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>>163238882
Why does Charon look like Forte doing Christmas cosplay?
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>keep the fairies from elven mage in my hand to altered fate next turn
>urias thinks I have Tia so he concedes

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>163238334
How's it do against Elana and Tempo Forest?

I run a more aggressive list where I drop some of the removal for more draw and bat synergy, alucard, and mini soul devil, and I've found that a third revelation is really, really important, as against those two decks you're going to need to draw 1-2 revelations or you will die.
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>>163238659

Great advice, thank you
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>>163238931
Goblinmount Demon is better than Aurelia half of the time.
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>>163238923
>sword
>having shitty cards

just stop posting
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>>163239002
DoD :^)
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>>163238969
>altering 0 cost fairies instead of regurgitating them with AE and altering those
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>>163239002
>you share a board with subhuman trash who think like this
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>>163239002
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>>163239002
If you have no board maybe
She has the same stats as him if the enemy has 2 followers with no downside. And if there are three she's broken.
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Started last week. Looking to improve my deck. Should I buy packs or wait for the new set? The 7's are Cursed Soldiers
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>>163238698
You do have a point with treating her as a wincon though.
Most of the crafts have or are getting a card that will enable a turn 9 kill, so nep really does need you to get that as well, if you're gonna play her.

Otherwise you're risking dying to a seraph,wolf,dragoon,marycombo, what have you.
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>>163239084
Wait, the expansion is only 10 days away.
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>>163238989
Aggro Blood gets shit on by straight Elana lists, that's just the nature of the game unfortunately. If it's a Seraph hybrid list then it's a different story since their draws will be much less consistent.

Good matchup against tempo forest, unless they get the turbo Ancient Elf opener you usually win.
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Remove heals.
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>>163239009
unless you play tsubaki, you will be aways drawing trash like vanguard and veteran lancer

that is why maid leader is so good, because she draws your powerhouses (aurelia-otomeme-sage)
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>>163239084
-1 Keen Enchantment, +1 Soul Conversion

Looks fine, just wait for now.
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>>163239076
Not that anon, but GBD always has +1 defence over Aurelia.
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Replacing Avant already had some effects, now the Maid takes out the Banner and storm followers can actually go for Lethal
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>>163239136
Go back to Facestone.
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>>163239136
remove direct face damage from hand and we have a deal
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>>163239235
>>163239241

Ok, ok.
Remove Haven.
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>>163239136
>ooga booga me hit face, face no die
>ezplain, cigaems?
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>>163239170
Are you retarded? You can fill out your curve with 2 and 3 drops.
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>>163239198
AVANT FAGS BTFO
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Need a concede please

17209
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>>163239235
>implying hearthstone isn't filled with heals and decks that aim for 20 minute games and fatigue

If anything Shadowverse is the Face game.
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>tfw got memed on by a snowman deck
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>still no story mode continuation
Come on Cygames, it's been half a year already. Even Delight Works didn't drop the ball this hard.
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>>163239125
Aggro? I'm talking about a more aggressive control blood, you sacrifice a lot of your kisses and drains for more pressure, actually performs great against Elana but gets its teeth kicked in by tempo elf due to not being able to heal out of roach-zone as effectively.
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WOW
HOW SKILLED YOU ARE
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>>163239193
Yes and she has one more attack versus a board of 2.
And it's retarded to compare the two anyways.
If you want to compare her to something you should try comparing her to Angelic Sword Maiden.
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>>163239031
I know this may sound weird to you but sometimes you might even go through entire games without drawing AE once
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>>163239198
There is a reason why a majority here say to take out Avant. It's pros get outweighed by it's cons which is deck consistency. Now, you understand why you should tell Avantfags to btfo.
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>>163239421
your fault for letting it live
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>>163239298
>filling the curve with shitty cards
>instead of playing good cards
huh?
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>>163239476
you have no draw without avant
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>In Magic, aggro beats control beats combo beats aggro
>In Shadowverse, aggro beats combo beats control beats aggro
How did this happen.
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>>163239421
>Elf complaining about anything
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>>163239421
>PtP elf complaining

Shuffle your hand some more you cuck.
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>>163239459
bullshit, forest starts the game with a 1-4 curve into whatever depending on you being tempo or ptp
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>>163239482
My hand was shit
im trying to play ptp, but RNG says no

>Ptp on my first 3 cards
>redraw ptp

WHY
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>>163239532
combo(dshit) is a subtype of control
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>>163239523
>2/2 ward for 2 and 2/2 storm for 3 is shitty

Why do I have to share the board with idiots like you?
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>spend an evolution point on floral fencer
>she tells me to stop staring and she has 2 boyfriends
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>>163239527
?
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>>163239482
points wasted not going for face are essentially extra heals for Eris

It's why Curate is fucking broken

it's why Haven is fucking broken

healing should come at a cost not buff you as well
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>>163239532
Actually in shadowverse control decks with combo finishers beat everything.
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>>163239527
You have a 40-50% of bricking your maid pulls with Avant.

Avant gives you stamina, but that ain't gonna matter if you don't have the commander synergy to make your followers threatening like they're supposed to be.
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>>163239476
Yeah but still Banner is a terrible deck in my opinion like all the cheap aggro decks
Fuck Aggro decks
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>>163239527
kys, if you want to pull more cards you use conscription. We're talking about banner FYI, the deck with almost always perfect curve
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>>163239618
>mongoloids itt think cycle = draw
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>>163239532
In magic, the attacker is at the mercy of the defender. In Shadowverse it's the opposite.

>>163239421
>>163239628
>This fucking mad about a tier 2 deck
Get fucked
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>>163239532
Because you have no way to control your opponents spells or hand and interrupt their combos so controlling the state of the board is literally the only thing you can do in games like these.

Either way, pretty much all the strong combo decks are some variation of control.
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>>163236032
>animated vampy
I'm jealous!
>>
What's the first deck you're playing after RoB comes out?

I think I might be more interested in seeing how I can improve my existing decks than crafting anything significantly new. Might just drop a few cards into Bats and prey on inconsistent brews while people're still trying to figure out what the fuck they're doing.
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>>163239803
aggro rune
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>>163239803
Banner Meme still, because I have no dust.
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>>163239803

I'm going to work on my shadow+rune stuff.

Play with storm haven in the laddering until my other decks are ready because haven didn't get anything that was an autoinclude or die. (Nice cards, maybe, but nothing like Garuda)
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>>163239803
Idol haven or PtP Elana haven, depending on my gets
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>>163239704
?
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>going first as Bat Blood versus Control Sword
>T1: Nothing
>T2: Veteran Lancer
>T3: Another Veteran Lancer
>T4: White Paladin evolve for 4 extra Shield Guardians
>T5: Aurelia max power
>T6: Another Aurelia max power
>T7: 2 Whole Souled Swings which proc the knights
>T8: Alwida's
>T9: Odin on my Vampiric Castle
I Barraged and Razory Clawed for lethal past his second Aurelia then I got checking match results. This was in unranked and I'm amazed I won that.

So excited I posted in the wrong thread first.
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>>163239803
Neph Shadow immediately and maybe Control Blood.
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>>163239803
Minibomb shadow.
Lots of the new cheap DR combined with urd and necroassassin to just take complete board control while having lots of draw and infinite power liches.
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>>163239803
Depends on what I pull from the 30~ or so packs I'll open. Other than patching up some of my older decks like Eartmemes and Control Sword, I'll probably aim for Midrange Blood and Tempo Rune the hardest. And Discard Dragon.
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>>163239803
Depends on which legendaries I get but I wanna try out Midrange Vampire. Hopefully I get Matriarch.
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>>163239803
Aggro Rune
I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT
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>>163239954
>aggro wins because other deck misses one drop
why did you find the need to post this here?
nobody cares
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>"oh boy, I wanna get that alternate art for ancient elf. I guess I'll hold off in crafting my 3rd ae"
>gets my 3rd one from the free weekly packs

It's like you don't want my money cygames. How much was the pre-built deck going to cost anyway?
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>evolve Hell's Unleasher
>enemy never trades into it so I get free 3 damage each turn
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>>163239954
subscribed
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So do I have to run 2x Pascale to make Dirt Rune work? I only have one of her and I'm missing two cards to finish my deck.
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>>163240092
500 crystal for first purchase, 750 for subsequent
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The Earthrite meme is calling
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>>163240050
>Control Sword
>one drops

Control Sword actually has a favored matchup against aggro bats because of the fuckload of Wards, so that anon actually did pretty good.
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>>163240092
500 crystals for the first one in each craft, 750 crystals for additional instances.

It kind of bothers me that the price hikes up after your initial buy.
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>>163236816
Will Veight see play in Bat Aggro?
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REMOVE HAVEN.
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>Next rank in 0
What?
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>>163236359
No because then you get clogged up with commanders.

Some people (like me) run Avant Blader but that's only because she can draw you your storms, and even then she loses me some games when she gets pulled by meido instead of Banner
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>>163240283
you're gonna do promos, just leave that part and you'll see.
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>>163240214
Veight will definitely see play in Bats. He's not strictly better than Killer Devil but he offers so much over her that I can't imagine wanting to run her except after you've maxed out on Veight and still want bats.
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>>163240214
He's basically better than Killer Devil in every way other than not being able to proc Fortress as quickly without evolve, so yes. It's still competing with Lykos and Mini for 3-drops but he's good enough to replace a few copies if not edging them out entirely.
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>>163240108
To be honest I think Ancient Alchemist is way more important
than Pascale.

Though they work well together since they are cheap minions with good stats you can summon the same turn you play Pascale.

She's a good card, but the deck works alright with only 1 of her. Sometimes she's really hard to use since she requires an earth rite + a board or other minions on the same turn
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How much play is Dwarf Alchemist going to see as a a tech card tutor for one-off Earthrite cards in non Earthrite decks (aka Petrification)?

Seems it'd be a much better idea than running anything else like scrap smelter.
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>>163240175
Nobody has a favored matchup versus aggro if they don't brick.
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>recently moved into A rank
>can't win unranked matches anymore

They're not this retarded, are they?
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Wow the rewards from Take Two fucking suck
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>>163240446
>not wanting fair challenge even in unranked
git gud
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>>163240212

It's not 500 for the first per craft, it's the first purchase period.
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>>163240458
they're going to when you go 0-5 every time fucking shitter
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>>163240430
It's still 60% in favor of CSword overall, even though CSword can easily brick with a heavy hand.
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>>163240543

I went 3-2 and got 50 coins and a pack
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HOLD
THE FUCK
UP
Fanatic Idol's evolve effect is CONSTANT?
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>>163240373
So considering that this is my current version of the deck. The Lucifer is in as somewhat of an alternate win condition. Please no bully, it is the first the deck I've built myself and I've only been playing for like a week or so ;_;
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>>163240458
ehh, it's really good if you go 5/5.
in the end you get more out of it if you go at least 3/5. It's a fun process of buying a pack with the opportunity to get some rupees back by playing the game..
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>>163240367
It's gonna be him and mini fighting for the 3 drop slot. That clash means he's especially nasty against a board of 1atk followers.
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>Dshift beats every single control deck in the game with ease

>Control decks beat every single aggro deck in the game with ease

>Midsword triumps over both

>shadowbabs will have you believe this rock, paper, shotgun meta is better than hearthstone's
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Fuck, I got the visual bug on my profile.

My Forest wins went from 11 to 13 in one match, but the total ranked wins doesn't count the 13th from Forest.

The achievement also lists Forest wins at 12/20.
This is what I get for bringing Forest to Ranked for my dailies. REMOVE ELF
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>>163240490
>git gud

you mean

>git a meta deck for every class
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>>163240391

Levi is the designated evo target.
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post em
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>>163240602
literally what are you talking about anon?
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>>163240717
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>>163240694
> Zero Haven.
You're good in my book, bud.
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>>163240646

Is the pack guaranteed? If so I'm just going to 5-concede with the tickets I have, I hate arena game modes and 5 matches is way too much for a chance at 50 coins.
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>>163240602

Don't forget that Shrine Maiden makes it so Idol can only be damaged by aoe, in a deck that can heal stuff.
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>>163240672
b-but elana heals
and the minions grow
elana is broken, r-right guys?
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>>163240602
It would be complete garbage otherwise.
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>>163240776
it's guaranteed
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>>163240672
>Control decks beat every single aggro deck in the game with ease
It's funny you think so.
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>>163240623
Trust me on this.
Cut the prices of magics and a single rami-remi (because she needs evolve to be usable) add fate's hand and/or magic missiles. As your draw right now is terrible and that just makes your ability to recover from bricking even worse. Price of Magic is overcosted, even though the feeling of banishing a hell's unleasher is one of the greatest things this world has to offer.
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>>163240672
>Midsword trumps over Control
>when Control Sword and Elana/Seraph are easily its hardest matchups and Control Blood will join these two next expansion

What did he mean by this?
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>tfw orgasm

letting a cursed general on the board into a floral...

no way out of this one Rowen, sorry.
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>>163240776
You get 1 pack from 0 wins.
You don't have to concede, just hit "Quit" to end your current run and claim your rewards.
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>>163240391
His evolve effect sucks because his stats are shit. You already have good card draw in d-shift decks that might run 1-ofs and using an evolve on merlin to get those d-shifts or Levi for board swing is way more important than drawing a petrify.

As for as essence enabler. Dwarf is 2 mana 2/2 which d-shift doesn't really care about and 1 mana for the earth essence itself. Meaning 3 mana total versus a 1 mana card that you can bounce and gives yo a ward that soaks some damage.
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>>163240826
>>163240927

Thanks
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>>163240704
>being in A
>not having meta decks for every class
bruh...
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>>163240920
kys
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>>163240956
Don't do that anon.
Give free wins away instead.
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>>163240992

hmpf, ill make it quick cuck
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>>163239803
I don't know which to do first, but I'll be making midrange sword, nep shadow, control blood, and aggro rune.
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>>163240982
do ranks reset? kind of fucked myself
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>>163240391
God no.
Dshift needs its evolves for merlin/levi.
Aggro needs them for pushing face and fighting board.

Dwarf Alch looks great for dirtrune, but he has no place anywhere else. None of his effects are useful for any other deck, nobody worries about tutoring those cards.
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>>163240982
I'm in AA with meta decks for 2 classes

It's been okay.
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>>163240917
>Elana seraph/Control sword are hard matchups for midsword
>Still favored for midsword
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>>163241065
nope
good job rushing your way to meta bracket with only 1 agro deck i presume
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>>163240907
So maybe something like
-2 Price of Magic +2 Magic Missile
-1 Remi-Rami +1 Fate's Hand
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>>163241093
If you actually think Mid Sword beats Control Sword you're a retard that needs to stop talking about meta.
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How much gold do I want for the 29th?
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>>163241125
>>163241065
Ranks are resetting next expansion actually
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I told swordcraft to clear my board

She actually tried, the absolute madman!
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>>163241248
wait what? source? i dont want to climb to masters again
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>>163240367
>b-but I don't want to replace my daughter
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>>163241248

Like, Beginner reset?
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>>163241065
Just sandbag back to C
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>>163240717
>I could have finished out MidSword and Gorilla moded my way up the ladder
>Instead I had the sudden, intense urge to start losing the fuck out of games
>So I made Face Dragon
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>>163241315
Even if it's sub-optimal, I'll probably still include my single animated copy of her in my deck no matter what.
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I don't know how much happy was this Rune DShift for having to deal with 3 Mainyus
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>>163241093
ehh is it though? or are you just spouting bullshit

>>163241152
approximately as much as you can save up before then
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>>163241125
>rushing with aggro decks
I sandbagged and still got into Rank A. It's impossible not to be put in Rank A unless all you do is sandbag.
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So what's our plan for the prebuilds? Liquefy everything that we have that they have since we're buying them for the alternate art legos anyway?
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>>163241315
different uses.
I'm gonna be testing out both cards to see which fills the elusive 3 drop slot for my blood decks.

MSD is fantastic as a solo drop because of the pressure she puts, but is also a fantastic combo piece. Combine that with the fact that if she's out on turn 4-5 it's very often that you get not 1, but 2 procs off her, which is huge.

I don't think you'll be cutting her entirely.
And if a good MR blood appears, I wouldn't be surprised if it did something like 2-2 MSD and Veight, as Veight is generally better on curve, while MSD is good on curve but fantastic when combo'd with something like Vania later on.
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>>163241458
i got into A without intentionally losing and still had 5 working decks even with some substitute cards
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Post your best shadow deck, I want to climb with the inferior loli
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>>163240367
MSD and Veight can coexist and Lykos is irrelevant outside kamikaze decks.
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>>163241664
The original topic of discussion was Aggro Bat, so that kamikaze is relevant. Those two will have no problem finding space with each other in other decks, but the 3 drop slots are at a premium in Aggro.
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>>163239421
Why didnt you quit after the first Elana's prayer.

Dont listen to this guy >>163238882
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>>163241538
>>163241770
I do think that the Bats spread is going to be some combination of Veight and MSD, but I'm curious to try running Veight with Killer Devil and putting Castle to 3.
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>>163241502

Someone explain this pre-built deck thing to me because I don't get it at all
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>>163241625
I used to have Skeleton Warrior instead Urd, but it started to feel completely useless since I had a lot of low cost drops already and it ate my shadows. Also, Urd is arguable the best/most versatile follower in the game.
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>when you don't even get a chance to attack before they rage quit
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How the fuck do all these D-shits get all the perfect cards in their hand every time? This is insane.
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I'm in rank A1 and I don't think i've ever gone 2nd against sword literally ever.
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>>163241967
Those sword players must be getting my 2nd turns.
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>>163241890
Basically starter decks which only has 2 different leggos, 5 different golds rest is duplicate bronzes/silvers. Purchasable using crystals only.
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>>163241890
Literally this, but one standard leggo will have an alternate art you can only get by buying the deck.
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>>163241832
just in case i had the opportinity to humiliate an elana user
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>>163241770
Kamikaze ain't that relevent, cause the race to 0 isn't really aided by either of those cards. plus it doesn't really have many flex slots
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Shadowverse cosplay when?
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>8 cards left in deck
>Still haven't drawn any of my 3x PTP

Nice meme, Cygames
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>>163242268
URIEL
R
I
E
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>>163242261
no
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>>163241945
I don't think Death Breath, Hell unleasher and therefore also Urd, fit in an aggro deck. Should have more small bodies and maybe a demonic strike to finish the job.
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This is some sort of cruel joke.
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>>163242293
I look forward to seeing if that will work in tyrant.
Combo that with midnight haunt.
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>>163242353
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This kills to otomeme.
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>>163242345
trust me, Shadow is already in a shit position m8. I've tried doing the smaller body thing. There isn't enough steam to the deck to make that work. It may not seem aggro-y, but this is the best right now desu. If you want to use something else though you can try this, it's not nearly as good though. You're gonna want Death's Breath.
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>>163242493
Nah, that needs an evolve and it's only 1 mana less than Otomeme herself. This card, on the other hand...
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>>163240717
Give Acient Elf, RampDragon or some control Blood/Rune cards
I can't feel climbing with what i have constructed now
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>>163241945
>>163242529
You need to swap out Skeleton Knight for Tenacious Ghost
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>>163242563
>that needs an evolve
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>>163242529
>Unicas
>No Playful or Cursed Soldier

You've already got an abundance of 2 drops, Cursed gives you a good way of lethal through wards while Playful gives 2 ghosts which are soul conversion fodder and/or ways to take out multiple weenies or damaged enemies. They're incredibly useful.

Also skeleton knight is awful right now, forest and haven eat him alive.
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>>163242612
anon plz don't type about things you have no knowledge of
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>When you thought to play Dragoncraft but in truth it's Goblincraft
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>>163242529
Agrro Shadowcraft deck from Tier 2 says otherwise. Isn't that a proof that it works?
Not speaking from experiance though, since I main Control Shadow and stay away from any aggro as much as I can.
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>>163242643
Shit, I read the effect and just automatically assumed it was an evolve skill. My bad, that card is way better than I thought it was
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Is there going to be new commander replacements when Bahamut releases
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>>163242643
Lucius does, without an evolve he only kills the bodyguards and does 1dmg to otomeme herself.
Need to evolve him and bonk her to get that kill.

To be fair though, Horde won't do any dmg to Otomeme herself.
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>>163242493
Keep in mind that it also hits your dudes tho
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>>163242684
>>163242729
ignore this >>163242529
I posted the wrong one. That's a terrible list from a long while ago.

This is the one that you can consider, but the original deck I posted >>163241945 is the best you can get nowadays.
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>>163242693
Skeleton Knight just does not have a good time in this meta.

faeries annihilate it. Banish annihilates it. Elf Child May annihilates it.

It does not pull its weight against forest or haven, the two most common crafts in the meta. This really hurts it.
Tenacious ghost, while not hitting as hard as Skeleknight, is guaranteed to survive the opponent's turn thanks to his ambush. Plus with 3hp he can eat most of of forest's removal no sweat.
Near-guaranteed face is much better than a shot at 1more dmg but most likely just losing mad tempo.
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>>163242693
Nigger Tenacious Ghost is what help you win Haven matchups and shit on Rune even harder. Once he evolves, most commonly played drops also can't trade up against it even after evolving.
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>>163239803
Neutralcraft. Then I won't have to worry about dailies ever again.
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>>163242874
>cheaper banner
What were they thinking
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>>163241315
Your daughter will grow up to be a succubus slut.
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>>163242846
>>163242847
>these are good points and make sense to me
DELETE THIS
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>>163242939
delet this
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Anyone has a Ambush sword deck?
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>>163243021
>No ambush sword in RoB
Maybe next time.
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>>163243021
have you tried playing good decks instead
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>>163243021
>try ambush sword
>don't draw rogues creed
>get completely shit on
Don't do it man, that deck is inconsistent as fuck
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>>163242847
>>163242946
Commonly played 4 drops that is.

Also why are you running Death's Breath in an aggro deck? You need to work towards putting people in kill range of Phantom Howls, not setting up zombie wards. If you are ever in a situation where Death's Breath is a necessary play then you probably aren't going to win anyway. Shit I don't even like Hell's Unleasher or Cursed Soldier in aggro. I wanted RoB to give Shadow a more aggressive 4 drop and Necroassassin is great but I'm not sure that's what aggro really wants, it feels more like a midrange card.
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WHERE ARE THE FUCKING NEW CARDS, CYGAMES?
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So why do Rune and Dragon get meme archetypes to eat up all their expansion potential while things like Forest and Sword just get cards that make their current top tier decks even stronger?
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>>163243071
Yes, StormHaven FaceDragon and a BannerSword
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>>163243152
cygames is fucking retarded
>>
What do people think about this guy?

I feel like he has the potential to be pretty nice, but I just don't know. The clash means trading into this guy real painful, but at the same time the initial AoE is the most important, and he's demanding an evo point to get it off, and it's only 1.
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>>163242937
Valkyrie doesn't buff followers when it's played, unlike banner.
Also half the reason banner is actually viable is that it's essentially a permanent commander on board, guaranteeing a lot of perks for your officers (also can be drawn with maid leader)
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What did Merlin, the top Rune player, mean by these statement?
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>>163243152
All i want is a Forest Delta Force deck where i can fit in Cynthia and Selwyn kicking intruders asses with their trained Roaches of rape
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>>163243139
Uriel next patch for amulet draw.
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>>163243152
There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays and the cards in the expansion seek to enable other Elf decks rather than reinforce current ones.
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>>163243021
As sad as it is I'm almost 100% sure that the best ambush sword deck out there is ambush flame and glass.
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>>163243139
Uriel next patch for amulet draw.
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>>163243140
Well that's because the results are simple there. The deck runs out of steam with your typical Aggro deck, but the way I designed there is always steam and this game can go against it's bad matchups. The thought process is complex, but this nets the most wins out of any version I've made.
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>>163243224
Literally who
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>>163243062
Ambush isn't going to work with current game mechanics.
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>>163243224
Does he have brain damage?
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>>163243252
>There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays
Ambush Sword exists.
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>>163243152
>Daria Affinity Rune
>a meme archetype

You're completely right about Dragon, but the new Rune archetype is gonna be insanely powerful, mark my words
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>>163243152
Forest got Mahes and that's about it. All the other cards are supporting either a control playstyle or an aggro playstyle.

Sword is just blatantly buffing Midrange and Control further though. I thought they'd support Ambushmemes but nope.
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>>163243152
>Aggro
>Meme archetype
Rune is the only class in the game without an aggressive archetype it's not a surprise that they would try that at some point. They are also getting some earth rune support. They are not going to give more support to Dshift when it's already the most played deck at masters.
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>>163243336
I know who I'd want poking my prostate
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>>163243224
He sounds like a guy who mains DShift and doesn't play anything else besides it. Am I right?
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>>163243278
You're playing midrange, not aggro. Which is fine, but Aggro Shadow goes for the throat to set up a Phantom Howl burst on turn 6.
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>>163243369
>They are also getting some earth rune support.
Not enough though. Expansion should have been a bit more focused.
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Rate my memedeck made with only neutral cards uwu
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>>163243270
>>163243251
Whoops, got a double post for some reason... Anyway if Rogue's Creed is not out by turn 4 Uriel will fetch it. Still too late to be viable but it's something
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Applefags on suicide watch.
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>swords just lose if they go second they said
>you can't beat control sword as bannermeme they said
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>>163243434
>fighter
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>>163243398
Apparently, Yes

>>163243325
>Daria

Who?
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>>163243252
>There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays

This is why I'm really happy with Castle in the Sky.

It actually means you have to be careful with playing minions once you put it down, because if you mindlessly vomit things then you'll likely end up in a situation where you end your turn and it's at 1-2 countdown, and you've basically screwed yourself.
But if you actually play with it you can do things like otohime with it on 4 and you'll end of with a 4/5 storm, three 2/3 storms, and a 1/2. Which is game winning.

It's also something the opponent can interact with, as they have the choice of letting a board live and risking a boosted castle blast, or wiping the board and not eating the guaranteed face.
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>>163243426
They got a great consistency card and another way to get some board presence to set up for Pascale. Even if I also would've wanted more, I'm happy enough with this considering how much of DE was dedicated to making Earth playable period.
>>
Wtf is up with Take Two atm?

Usually win 4-5, now i barely 2-3

Is now the ultra nip take two pro time?
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>>163243469

Anyone know why they're doing it?
Is it because buying crystals on the iOS version costs more because of Apple's taxes?
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>>163243302
I think he's Russia or some shit.
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>>163243493
>A0
>princess in banner

We would like to hear more of your high quality opinions
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post your favorite deck and your bsdm test score

i'll start: tempo forest
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>>163243493
>he has 2 avant blazers evolved
Why are you so proud of beating someone that obviously bricked their draws?
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>>163243508
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>>163243508
No wonder he thinks expansion for Rune is shit. They didn't pander to his deck.
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>>163243426
I don't know, I always see earth players complain about lack of consistency/not being able to draw specific earth cards, dwarf at least sounds like it helps with that.
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>>163243251
>>163243270
>banner and arturian light is consider a commander
>rogue creed is not

Explain this bullshit.
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>>163243434

Replace Fighter with Unica
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>>163243315
No it doesn't.

>>163243515
It's still going to be a dudes.dec but that does make it a bit more dynamic, I agree.

>>163243493
Banner is the only Swordcraft deck that doesn't care about whether or not it goes first or second. All others lose like 60% of the time going first.
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>>163243369
>>163243325
It hasn't gotten enough support yet to be consistent.
Right now it's at DE Discard Dragon levels of viable.
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>>163243561
Earth's been in a weird spot this expansion where the only thing keeping it out of competitive was consistency anyways. It's seen a lot of majors play in the last few weeks, which is better than most decks can say, so it could definitely go high tier 2 with just the two cards and some general support like Daria.
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s-shadowbabs?
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>>163243708
right
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>>163240717

On Page 2 is just DShift Flame and Glass
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>>163243708
Right
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>>163243669
>Daria
>general support
Earthmemes doesn't run enough spellboost to use her.
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>>163243643
No Ambush cards are commanders, whether you look at Ninja "Master", Tsubaki who's the only non-Commander Sword lego, or Shadowed Assassin that literally has the word command in her lore.

Part of their creed is not having commanders at all. It's still silly from a gameplay perspective.
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>>163243561
>They got a great consistency card
A single card isn't going to improve consistency by much, even though it's nice addition.
Gimped evolution doesn't help either.
They really should have added an effect mirrored version of it as well, then we could talk about consistency
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>>163243708
Easiest right ever
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>>163243658
>Right now it's at DE Discard Dragon levels of viable.
Bull fucking shit. Discard dragon has a literal sub-30% winrate. Earth rune at least is actually playable and only needs some pushes here and there (mostly in the deck's consistency), while disco dragon will need at least an entire expansion dedicated to it.
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Why does Daria banish your hand?
Seriously, it's not like Rune PtP is even a tier 3 deck right now. Would it be really that bad to throw them a bone?
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REMINDER that pre-made decks that can only be purchased with Crystals will officially make Shadowverse P2W when they come out.

REMINDER that pre-made decks that can only be purchased with Crystals will officially make Shadowverse P2W when they come out.
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>>163243835

Trail of Light
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>>163243658
It's not that shit to be compared to d dragon
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>>163243802
>Earth rune
>Daria aggro
???
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>>163243835
>Wanting more PtP decks in the game
Fuck that.
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>>163243658
>implying

You can easily get Daria off by turn 5, and it's possible to get her as early as turn 4 with a good hand. Being able to drop a 5/5 and draw 5 cards, some of which will be free, is a huge power play that early in the game, and you're not sacrificing much by throwing a mix of on-curve followers and spells before her. Both Ogler and Emmylou will be free if they're drawn, same for Fate's Hand, and fuck help your opponent if you get another Daria from the first one, because then you're gonna do the whole thing again on the next turn.

It's insanely good, and more than consistent enough when you factor in how much draw power Rune already has. You could make the argument that it won't be T1, which is fair since we can't gauge that sort of thing until it's released, but to call it Discard Dragon-tier is a fucking insult.
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>>163243581
She works my dude, just give it a try.
>>163243597
He also had a Frontguard General and shitload of other wards that I got rid of, even had a Floral Fencer evolved too.
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>manage to get 2k gold for the expansion over a week of good take two runs
>waste it on Forte and Garuda leaders
>buy a shitload of normal packs for no reason and get nothing good from them
Who else /cantmanagehisrupies/ here?
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>>163243861

what does that have to do with buffing ptp rune in the expansion?
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>>163240596
>did average
>broke even

where's the issue
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>>163243905
>buying Garuda
but why?
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>>163243885
Thought you were talking about earth, sorry.
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>>163243152
All i want is a Forest Delta Force deck where i can fit in Cynthia and Selwyn kicking intruders asses with their trained Roaches of rape
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>>163243835
Because it's supposed to be hard to get to 30 shadows when you're not the dev's pet class like Elf is. :^)
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>>163243940
not him but
>storm haven is fun
>eris is actually slightly sickening to even look at, let alone listen to

B U R D
U
R
D
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>>163243940
>>163234397
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>>163243150
I don't understand what Forte is doing in this webm
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>Rune now summons Zombies and a Dragon gold
YOU THINK IT'S A ONE TIME THING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT FAIRY DSHIFT DECKS RUNNING AROUND.
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>>163233180
need a quick concede
73452
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>>163244017
I would buy Garuda leader but I find his awkwardly long blinks unsettling
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>>163243940
Haven ain't free.
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>>163244036
Cygames realized that Dragon and Shadow are dead so they divvied up their corpses to be distributed to the other crafts.
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>Get a bunch of cancer cards as T2 haven
>Go 4-0, nearly 5-0 (came down to 1hp)

Jesus christ, fuck haven so much. Getting tiger + falcon out on turn 3 is absolute cancer.
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>>163243896
>You can easily get Daria off by turn 5
Because it's totally easy to draw Daria in your opening mulligan and proceed to play things to spellboost her perfectly on curve, amirite?

You can play Atomeme on turn 2 as well if you get the perfect hand.
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>>163244017
>>eris is actually slightly sickening to even look at, let alone listen to
I like and use Garuda but this is horseshit and false.
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>>163244017
>going up against some haven with garuda lead
>oh cool he's running storm haven for sure
>it's just another elana healslut cancer
Preposterous
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I think Aggro Rune is going to be fun. I don't think it's going to be that good because it lacks storm followers and aggro decks in this game get by by being as hard to interact with as possible. Sure Rune will be able to swarm the board really well, but unlike Forest they'll have to spend actual cards to do it and unlike Bannermemes they lack the storm followers to close out the game from topdeck mode and capitalize on the early aggression. This is all to say that I'm really torn on crafting it, because I want to play it for the fun factor, but I'd need to craft Levis ontop of Darias and that might be a bit much for a fun experiment.
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Look at this girl. She hasn't even been released yet and she knows that she's never going to see play.
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>>163244056
thanks random friend
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>>163244187
Garuda looks majestic and Eris is just a dumb looking christmas cake with bishop hat. Not like there is anything wrong with it
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>>163244187
>cartoonish, almost rubbery dress that would be better in literally any colour other than pink
>retarded hat that looks pixelated, trash design
>in japanese she's a whiny crybaby
>in english she's a whiny crybaby with lung cancer whenever she yells "STOP" like a retard when you hit her

Seriously, every leader that tells you to stop hitting them or complains about it (OH COME ON) is so fucking retarded.
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>>163243910
You asked why she banishes your hand instead of discarding it. Making her draw 6 or more cards through Trail of Lights would make her too good
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Is there any place where I can hear all of the leader emotes and damage sounds?
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>>163244338
this.
also think of the potential abuse with snowmen spam and altered fate for maxspeed ptp
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>>163244306
>pink
It's fucking lavender. I like her hat.

I can't even comment on the story because I skipped through all of that shit and just collected my rewards before hopping into PvP. No point in caring really.
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>turn 1 Pinion
>turn 2 Doggo
>turn 3 Burdsong
>turn 4 Elana
You what
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>>163244175
>implying DShift doesn't already do this exact thing

Yes, it is fairly easy to get a card you run 3 of in your turn 1 hand if you hard mulligan for it, and it is also fairly easy to get things to boost it when your deck is mostly low-cost spellspam. Will there be times you don't get it in your opening hand? Of course, but that's why you run stupid crap like Insight, Magic Missile, etc. to early cycle into her if you didn't get her to begin with.

>but that's not reliable

If that were true then DShift wouldn't function as a deck. It's literally the same opening hand conditions for both decks, and we already know one works, so why wouldn't this one work also?
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>>163244404
IS FIGHTING AND DESPAIR ALL YOU KNOW

she literally starts the fight by complaining like the deadbeat divorced hag she is
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>>163244338
>>163244384

I guess its forbidden to beat Dshift
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>>163244404
>>163244187

Eris hat always looks pixelated to me
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>>163244404
Her design is annoying, she is annoying, her meta deck is annoying

She's an ugly cunt
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Quickly, post that Isabelle picture. You know the one.
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>>163244551
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Childhood is idolizing Vampy
Adulthood is realising that Urias is better.
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>>163244551
The one where she's rimming a dude while he titfucks her?

>>163244535
>>163244448
>Hag
The woman is mid-20s at the absolute oldest goddamn. Also I don't have much issue with her deck. Or any deck really.
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Is it possible to make a deck based entirely around ding dong?
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>>163244551
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>>163244445
>If that were true then DShift wouldn't function as a deck. It's literally the same opening hand conditions for both decks, and we already know one works, so why wouldn't this one work also?
Because the entirety of DShift revolves around drawing DShift and spellboosting it as hard as possible.
In contrast, Daria decks won't run anywhere as much pure spellboost cards like Sorcery Cache and Merlin can't search for her.
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>>163244445
Probably because Rune Aggro will have followers and not just spell cards. So they can't put as many low cost spell cards as DShift can.
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>>163243859
Remember when Konami released this and Yugioh became pay to win?

players got 1 blue eyes white dragon with each deck holy shit man
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>>163244551
I'm still drawing it.
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>>163244551
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>>163244680
Yugioh couldn't "become" p2w because it was always p2w.
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>>163244716
there's been a card game that wasn't?
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>tfw getting literally perfect curve against Haven as Shadow with Urd.
step aside bald man, you hold no power here
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>>163244748
Hearthstone.
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>>163243493
>OHOHOHO in Bannermemes
>opponent has 2 evolved Avants
You won because you got insane draws and your opponent bricked like a motherfucker
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>>163244748
Poker :^)
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>Vampy play Revelation
YAMEROOOOOOO
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>>163244637
Don't forget that most people that call her are into loli. What a coincidence!
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>>163243508
Marisa
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>>163244680
>>163244716
Yugioh is not p2w, it's pay to play.
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>>163244821
So am I

The hag thing is still stupid
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>>163244939
Yugioh isn't pay to play, it's pay to pay some more in 3 months.
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http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty?page=1428

I shouldn't make fun of them but reading this shit feels so good
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>>163245052
Sometimes I wonder if anyone actually likes Hearthstone or if they've been at it so long that they can't stop.

It and League have such self-depreciating communities.
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>>163245052
I haven't opened Hearthstone since installing this game.

three dailies > one daily
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>>163243859
I have to reluctantly agree. If they don't make the decks available using Rupies, even at an increased cost, then we are definitely Pay to Win
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>>163245134
It's the latter, people have already invested so much time and money, and the streamers only get paid to stream HS.

League is shit but at least it takes a modicum of skill unlike literally just praying for the rng to go your way.
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>>163244404
mordecai sprite please
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>>163244968
S-sauce?
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>>163244796
see >>163243897
He pulled out every single bullshit he had, put down wards for days, double Avant to keep all his shit going, and a Turn 7 Frontguard General, perhaps the only thing he lacked is a Saber to fuck my shit up but I never played more than 2 followers after turn 5. To top it off I didn't even get a Floral Fencer and was only able to keep up my field presence thanks to Princess.
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>>163245134
As someone who used to play League it was the latter for me. Shadowverse has actually been a bit of a salvation for me, helped me forget about League, I enjoy it more, and it's less of a time waster.
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If they stop device link feature, that means I cant play both versions (jpn and eng) on 1 acc on ios beacuse they treat as 2 games when I decide to reroll, right?
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>>163245207
to be fair league was cool pre-during season 1
before forced meta and banning funpicks
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Looks like japs complain about Dshift completely killing off late game cards too
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Why whenever i try to climb A with something different than Haven i get Havened so hard i have to go back to it
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>>163245227

You're asking the wrong anon, anon.
I'm the anon you want.
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>>163245227
I'm not the guy datamining, I don't have it sadly

>>163245229
Artist is lelsyzerosix, he does CG stuff of other things. The character is from TSF Monogatari.
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>>163245324
I'm climbing it just fine with Shadow Control. Stop being a pussy.
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>>163243989
>Dev's pet class
>New cards are shit aside from maahes and burd is okayish
>Meanwhile sword
Makes you wonder which class is the dev's pet class actually.
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>>163245330
thats some badass looking skeleton
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>>163245253
Anon Avant is a huge tempo loss, if he's evolving Avants then he's in a bad state. It's not as if Banner has much of a problem with wards thanks to Ruthless Assassin and being able to vomit shit out with Banner up.

Also Princess bricks your meido draws when you want Banner up, which is all the time.
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>>163245315

They should.

It is the single deck that shafts any reason to actually experiment with decks that win later than turn 8-9.

Even PtP can at least be countered with amulet destruction, and cannot deal more than 18 dmg if all 3 of them go off if you counter them at the turn they are played.

Dshift simply just rapes you face, while literally being uninteractive.
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>>163245398
To be fair, they are introducing a lot of board clear in the expansion
t. not a sword player
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>>163245429
Is dshift the NTR class? Are they sadist?

>watch your leader get rape and you cant do anything about it
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>>163245398
STOP POSTING SMUG ERIKAS
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>>163245429
Hopefully Earthrite and Tempo Witch become viable and then they decide to nerf DS just to make other control decks playable. I would be fine with PtP being the only hard counter to control decks.
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>>163245398
More like the Forest decks are already so insanely good that they don't need anything else.

Cards that need to simply be removed from the game:
>Path to Purgatory
>Elf Girl Liza
>Elana's Prayer
>Dimension Shift
There, I've saved Shadowverse
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>>163245398
>Brand new meme deck
>Cards that help control and midrange
Don't even know how im supposed to deckbuild with so many good cards
What a time to be alive
>>
>Hearthstone
>Renolock is the best deck in the game
>Hard to play, you have to manage your resources carefully
>Punishes mistakes and bad players

>Shadowverse
>Midsword is the best deck in the game
>A fucking monkey can play it, 2 into 3 into 4 into 5 into 6 drop
>Steals wins from everyone thanks to overstated crap (and going second)
>Misplay? lol sage commander, Punish for overextending?? lol otohime

Explain this, shadowbabs
>>
I wanna ding the dong
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>>163245426
>It's not as if Banner has much of a problem with wards thanks to Ruthless Assassin
Wards wreck banner, it's why it has such a hard time against forest and other sword decks. Ideally you don't want to be forced to use the assassin.
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>>163245534
Castle in the Sky doesn't even deserve to be called a meme deck.
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>>163245506
>bring them down to 1 health
>victory is so close
>suddenly it's dshift time, all the turns belong to me
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Should I add a Tsubaki to my banner deck?
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>>163245330
more please
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>>163245620
>ルナの負けだよ
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>>163244698
I would be crying if I was with kripp, too
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>>163245528
>liza

What?
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Why is Rowen bald in these
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>>163245645
No
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>>163245426
>Anon Avant is a huge tempo loss, if he's evolving Avants then he's in a bad state
Tempo or not he always has shit to fill his field with.
>Also Princess bricks your meido draws when you want Banner up, which is all the time.
It's either that or Avant, or gets fucked if they just put up any wards early and grind you down. I only play 2 of her anyway, and she fills the curve perfectly if you search her with Maid turn 2 and has nothing to play Turn 3. And you don't want to draw into too many Banners anyway.
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>>163245735
because he got his shit fucked up beyond repair
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>>163245727
>dude, let's make a class whose only counter is AoE removal
>and then give them a way to completely block AoE removal
Forest has way too many amazing cards, it wouldn't hurt to cull a few.
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>>163245645
If you feel that 3x ruthless assassins is not enough go ahead. Can't target aurelia tho, which is a bummer.
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>>163245398
>Dev's pet class
>not Swordcraft
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>>163245765
You're culling the wrong ones. Ancient elf is a way bigger issue
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>>163245645
Swordsman is better than Tsubaki in most situation.
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>>163245465
>Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears
Even well timed barrage already hurt them badly.

>>163245510
Here's smug Arisa for you.

>>163245528
30 shadows is really hard to achieve unless you luck out with altered fate into altered fate. Try playing ptp forest with 3 altered fate or 3 ptp in your starting hand. Before you remove liza, remove balance evolving old man with 3 dmg spells.

>>163245605
>control forest
When will you fucks realize that meme wolf is shit. If your enemy don't have anything on board it's pretty much shit since you cannot sudoku him.
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>>163245765
Themis :^)
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>>163245764
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>>163245832
shut up Arisa
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How we rebalance DShift without making it utter trash?
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>>163245646
I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL
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>>163245645
In the current meta she would only be good against Tia or to help from being overpowered yourself. I would say she' d be good against Dragon but the matchup against Ramp is already so in your favor. DoD is better in most cases. I have one Tsubaki and one DoD in mine though.
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>>163245645
Helps against dragon.
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>>163245806
>swordsman
Needs evolve
>tsubaki
Doesn't need evolve

???
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>>163245832
>>Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears
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>>163245860
Limit 1
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>>163245947
Meat toilet
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>just want to have a win with my ghetto Elf deck for the daily
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>DShift
>Haven
I just want to play this fucking game, okay? When will those cancers be purged?
>>
>I guess it really was... a Shadowverse
Really now Cygames?
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>>163245860
Just remove it, Dshift is utter cancer and wouldn't be missed.

Same with Elana.
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>>163245947
>most of the new board clear comes online in 5-6pp
>That's when tempo players start to set up the board for wind god and cynthia or turn 5-6 tia.
If liza actually cost zero then you can bitch about forest being op.
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>>163245832
>Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears
That's a good thing. Exterminate all the sub-humans.
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>>163246038
t.Forestfucker
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>>163245860
Nerf it but also add some spells for dealing with aggro
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>>163246054
>>163246058
>t. lesbocraft mainer
Enjoy playing your braindead class.
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>>163246116
>MOOOOOMMMMMMY THEY CALLED MY CLASS OP
>>
If I am a new player should I be using gold for Classic packs or the DE/RoB packs?
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>>163245860
set card limit like can only have 1 or 2
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>>163246179
Always Standard pack for new players. Or try your hand in Arena.
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>>163246179
Classic all the way with a few DE along the way
No reason to hoard gold for RoB if you are new
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>>163246116
We MUST wipe clean the vile stench of the sub-human elves' taint. They must all die. All of them. ALL of them. Let not one stand! Let their lesser blood drain into the dirt and filth of the earth where it belongs!
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>>163246148
KYS
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Another tempo meme btfo.

>losing to go first royal

Embrace ptp. Say no to shit tier deck populated by meme.
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>>163246290
>don't draw your keycards
>die
WoW
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>>163245535
>renolock best deck in the game
>ladder still just shamans and pirates
nothing to explain my dude
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>>163246242
http://usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
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>>163246290
>only draw fairy nigger generators
>lose
LMAO
>>
WATASHI NO MAHOU HIRUSHINASAI
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>>163245535
you are right but hearthstone looks like a nintendo 64 game and this game has all my favorite animay voice actors in it
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>>163246367
Otohime and her sex slaves aren't human either.
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>>163246320
He drawn. They all died.
> deck doest have draw source
Your deck is shit thats why royal is a real deck because they can consistantly draw tjeir keys via maid.
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>>163246395
What? This game is literally using like N64 graphics for the board.
>>
>opponent conceded before I could show off my second olivia in t2
pls

I wanted to make you feel less bad about losing.
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>>163246395
>>163246574
Are you faggots literally dissing the N64?
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>>163246624
>opponent has all the luck in the world
>i don't
How is that gonna make me feel less bad about losing?
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>The meme Tempo Forest is shit is back
Why is still tier 1 in literally all tier lists then?
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>>163246805
it was just replaced by a slightly altered build and people stopped playing the old one so now everyone calls it bad
honestly the people who think they know anything about the meta are all fucking idiots
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>>163246805
Because /swordversegeneral/ are butthurt when a tempo/aggro forest roached them to death.
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>>163246805
I'm personally just finding it hilarious after a week of retards saying PtP Forest is shit.
>>
Is there a reason why I can't craft dragon warrior? I've looked through all the dragoncraft cards, and tried searching the card list, but he isn't appearing.
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>>163246941
>tales from D2
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>>163246991
he's a basic card you get from doing the dragon story mode
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>>163247003
>implying D2 shitters can afford to craft tempo forest
Spotted the beginner shitters
>>
New famitsu comes out on 22nd and it will have all the cards.
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Which girl gonna be the OP in next thread????
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>>163247140
Ding Dong
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>>163246290
This meme needs to stop.
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>>163247072
>>
So to the dshift players out there when do you guys get your Lethals
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>>163247008
I guess I should probably get to those then. Thanks
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>>163247178
>AA1
>good
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New thread
>>163247268
>>163247268
>>163247268
>>163247268
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>>163247140
me
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>>16324680
According to that site ptp is shit. Rank 1 master uses ptp. Most forest are ptp. I believe my eyes rather than meme.
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disconnect?
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>>163233567
A 14 mana ghetto polyhonic roar that requires at least 2-3 turns setup?
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