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>Live Patch Notes
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20752545497

>PTR Patch Notes
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20379410

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Discord:
https://discord.gg/Mzpx4Yh

>Permalink
https://owg.pleb.pl

Previously:
>>163160705
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BUFF MERCY NOW
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>>163190893
Or riot.

Polite, pacifist riot.
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>get 2 silvers in team
>enemy team gets diamond
>one leaves on my team
o-okay
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>>163190893

Make res radius bigger.

Let her desh in any direction without needing another player/soul to dash to.

Make damage boost and heals happen simultaneously.

Allow for decaying overheals.

Any of these would help.
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>Winston Is a tank
>Creates barrier with 800 health that lasts 5 seconds and is static
>13 second Cooldown starts only AFTER the shield is destroyed or expired
>Does 55 damage per second

>Symmetra is a support/defense
>Creates a forward moving shield with 1000 health
>8 second Cooldown that starts immediately after creating shield
>Does 30-120 per second

Fucking how. She tanks and DPS better than winston
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Blue and Orange!
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Roadhog is fine, stop crying.
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>>163191082

Barrier is 600 I think.
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>waifu-fags
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I'm going to marry __Tracer__!
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>>163188365
Because they have no idea what they're doing.
They simply wanted to reduce the people in platinum and gold.
So, everyone who was platinum and gold last season will get fucked hard. Even if you had one 10 matches and were the sole reason you won them.
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>>163191084
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>>163191082
Why do you purposefully write wrong numbers?
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should I kill myself?
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What sensitivity/doing combo you guys using
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>>163191262
Sad to see that amazing render and shading quality to go to complete waste for a low tier fetish.
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What's the voice line META right now? D. Va's "is this EZMODE" and Rein's "Catchphrase!" are crazy overpowered imo
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>play Pharah
>get nanoboosted out of nowhere
>get a quadruple kill
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>>163191372
Dpi•••
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>>163190893
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>>163190781
>>163191084
Want to hug that smug

>>163191120
>tfw no warmth
It hurts
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>>163191119
Check wiki, it's 1000, even tested, takes 8~ rockets to destroy

>>163191350
Where am I wrong? Check the wiki if you don't believe me
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Does Sombra really not have ANY pre-game banter?
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How do you guys feel about D.Va's defense matrix? Is it in a good place?
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>>163191519
He means Winston's barrier. That's only 600.
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>>163191363
How is Ana's weapon accuracy even calculated? I usually have ~80% unscoped and 90% scoped accuracy, but the game tells me I have 10% weapon accuracy. Does it not count when you shoot teammates?
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>>163191538
She has some still in the PTR I think? Basically everyone hates her
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>>163191538
Weren't they added this last patch? I know there's around 20 new ones for various other heroes in the current ptr build
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>>163191538
She does, but it's not live yet.
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>flank Ana as Tracer
>get killed 1v1
I should just uninstall
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>>163191554

It lacks counterplay. All the things that go through it she doesn't have to worry about due a combination of mobility, armor, and very high health.
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>>163191593
Overbuff's accuracy stats are fucked. I get told I have <50% on Zarya because it counts the right click as 25 missed shots if you don't land it.
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>>163191538
She has one line with McCree.
>"Pleasure working with you McCree. If that is your real name."
>"Don't know what you've heard, but my name's not Joel."
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>>163190781
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>>163191719
Ana is stupidly OP when dueling flankers.

Also don't feel bad, I get nearly killed by Mercys who actually know they have a pistol.
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I love Hana.
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>>163191519
>barrier is 600
>Symmetra shield is on 10 seconds cooldown
>winston DPS is 60

Are you a compulsive liar or something?
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>>163191782
It's not just Overbuff, it's the actual in-game stats. I'm pretty sure Overbuff just lifts them from the game.
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>>163191818
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>>163191878
I solokilled a Soldier as Mercy once, still don't know how the fuck it happened. QP is really fun sometimes
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>>163191932

>Winston barrier is 600
>DPS is 60

I thought these things were true.
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>>163191590
That just makes my point even more apparent.

>>163191932
Fair deuce. But still lower than Winston's and has instacooldown
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>>163191980
Her projectiles are really forgiving and it does a fuckload of damage. Tracers who get caught in a hallway are doomed.
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Jamison Fawkes!
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Diamond has to be the most selfish rank in this game. No one wants to fill necessary roles and just tries to 1v6 for EPIC POTMs.

I've had better team work and comps in fucking plat
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>tfw no good D.Va feet focused fanart
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>>163192123
That's adorable, anon! I think you forgot I only Fawkespost on the weekends, but that's still okay!
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>>163192082

Winston is the worst tank in the game by a huge margin and needs buffs. He's not a good class to compare anything to.
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How to fix Winston:
Give him 150 ammo
Lower his leap cooldown to four seconds
Lower barrier cooldown to 8 seconds
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Do you think that D.Va had to see her fellow gamers die against the Kaiju omnic?
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>>163190781
>americans are finally going to sleep
>threads become bearable now
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>tfw you back the canon ship
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another day
another 300 mmr lost
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>waifuposting
>waifuposting
>bronzie complaint
>tumblr-tier lore wankery
>waifuposting
>waifposting
Yeah, I'm out
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>>163192296

His barrier is so fragile I don't see how being able to spam more of them will ever matter.
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>>163192296
>D.va can buzz off after 2 seconds
>has a shield meter

>Winston has to mope around like a dumb scientist waiting for his entire kit to cooldown
Yes please.
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>tfw you finally figure out American sleep schedule's spray pattern
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>>163191748
>Doomfist is released
>He's a melee brawler
>Punches straight through D.Va's DM
>Pounds her pert teen ass into the ground
I really hope we're getting a brawler/frontline disrupting tank next, with maybe one defensive option so as to not stay idle during ranged poke wars.
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>tfw you figure out dvas spray patterns
wew lads is this why shes op?
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>tfw you figure out symmetras spray patterns
i can't even
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>>163192401
You forgot
>absurd balance propositions
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>>163191554
What the fug do I do against it
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>>163192401
>tumblr-tier lore wankery
What way is there to discuss the meager amount of lore that doesn't make it qualify as "tumblr-tier" to you?
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>tfw sombra is your highest winrate with 77%
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>>163192380
iktf
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>>163192276
Didn't you post on the previous thread also?
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Reminder that you will never experience the true Overwatch experience with toggle open mics with 5 friends of yours with clear defined roles whom all know how to fucking spawn wait and make every single fight an actual 6v6.
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>>163192714
I wish there was more evidence (or actual evidence) for this because I would support it. It's rather endearing.
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>>163192289
At the moment he only serves as a hard counter for snipers and genji.

But for actually tanking or comparing his DPS to other tanks he is quite lacking.

Only reason he is used in triple tank is for his ability to contest for KOTH
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>>163192714
Ana and Rein are only good friends
FRIENDS
NO LEWDING THE GRANDPARENTS ALLOWED
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>>163192684
see
>>163192380

I rest my case.
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>>163192734
Yeah, but that was still pretty early where I am. Once I wake up on Monday I stop until Saturday.
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>>163192820
where do you think Pharah got her sense for justice?
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What did she mean by this?
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>>163192820
It's not lewding, it's embracing two older people finding love and comfort in each other. It's basically the purest ship in existence.
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>>163192616
>there are people here who can't handle Symmetra's M1 laser
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>>163192820
>>163192714
So did Ana get ÜBERMENSCH'd or get FREEDOM'd?

Canon explanation when?
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>placed gold

time for suicide?
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>>163193020
>melt tanks with discord
>get team kills with Ana boost
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>another update

What is it now again
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>Don't want to play competitive because its gets stressful after a while
>Don't want to play QP because everyone plays like a retard

Can I just the competitive feel without the stress.
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>>163192816

Tracer, Genji, Dva, and even soldier all do the support bully/harass thing better than he does.

Dva can actually disrupt a group due to DM being infinitely better than bubble.

Dva can make soldier's life hell why Winston gets shit on or ignored by soldier.

Dva can just fly away if Hog lands the hook.

Dva shits on reaper.

Dva has two lives.

Dva does twice as much damage.

Dva nuke is infinitely better than goin' bananas.

Even if Dva gets her health cut to 500 she will still be better than Winston in every single way.
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Is forced 50% prevalent in competitive? Not gonna bother if it is
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>>163192839
oh ok, when it's gay or a "shipping" discussion you get triggered

gotcha
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>Save up 20 free boxes to open all at once
>5 legendary dupes/gold
>6 epic dupes/gold

I want off this ride blizzard just give me some winter skins.
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>tfw you figure out the loot box spray pattern

Holiday skins all over the place my friends
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>>163192714
>>163192820
>>163192734
do u need more examples?
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>Sym just took on two tanks

Holy SHIT they need to fix that range of hers.
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>symmetra STILL a support hero

Right, supporting by melting tanks and offensive characters. Coupled with a good torb she turns into Shiva the destroyer. I am become death.

Seriously though, she's a lot of fun to play but I think she's a defense character now.
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anybody need to grind for that oni skin?
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>>163193063
Right now it seems to be leaning towards neither famalama
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>>163193597
did it the first day for eu and a few days later for na
(30 games each not 15)
hots is great! GREAT!
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How the fuck do I climb out of silver guys. I know the meta. I know the maps. I know how to play certain heroes. I get good stats and medals. I try to be nice to my team. But it doesn't help. I swear everyone in this range must be fucking 12 or playing the game for the first time. It's fucking depressing. They all wanna play attackers and useless heroes. They never swap heroes. They leave. They run in alone and die. And no matter how hard I try in the placement matches I get ranked low again. I will never experience what it's like to play a good comp match. Really thinking about buying a new copy so I can get a decent rank and get the fuck out of this hell hole.

I'm on the verge of smashing my fucking screen here. Pls help
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Am I doing good so far /owg/?
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>>163193537
>"I'm out"
>still here

plz go, u make blueberry sad
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>>163193537
Feel free, I love cute pictures.
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>>163193645
What? it's 30 games to unlock the HOTS heroes
Only 15 for oni genji and spray.
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>>163193331
Triggered as it should be.
Do you defend fart posters too?
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>>163193645
The extent of my knowledge of the game is that it's a moba with blizzard characters.
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>>163193718
You're playing a "free rank" hero, so no.
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>>163193829
shieeet
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>>163193698
party up with the ones you think r good

you'll b surprise at how many people will party up if you just ask

they want to win as much as u do
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>>163193748
>he thinks this is as bad as fart posting
That is some serious autism there pal.
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>Try and play Genji
>Do absolute jackshit with less than 10 elims and shitty ults that immediately gets shut down

>Dont try at all with Genji when our team got 5 dps anyway
>Actually do good and get potg winning us the game

How the fuck am I only good as Genji when I switch off my brain?
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>>163193932
I'm just a shitter you're alright, guy.
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>change the game audio to French out of curiosity
>feels like I'm listening to Wakfu
>look up D.Va and Mei's voice actresses
>turns out I -am- listening to Wakfu

I like this dub.
Only character who sounds a bit off is Reaper.
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>>163193698
try not to solo queue and pray that you have the luck of pairing up with knowledgable teammates
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What if they made Ana's nanoboost a interceptable skillshot?
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>>163191118
Those faces look weird.
Have a well drawn version.
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>tfw
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One day they'll fix Junkrat.....one day
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>>163193948
Because the high skill meme is a joke inspired by anime watching autistic players
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>some shitter calls me trash for missing a hook
>check his career profile
>he's 2299, over 1300 below me
>gets assblasted when I make fun of him for being gold and say that his opinion doesn't matter
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>>163194242
Fix him to be not shit?
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>''Hey. Anon. Look.''
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Does mei still have no counters?

I'm referring to her invincible contesting ice block, the fact that her primary fire slows your reticle far too quickly, and that her wall gives her a free life for no reason.
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>>163194217
>Amelie half-asleep
>ana is a tranny

If I want poorly drawn art I can post it myself.
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>>163194330
Yes
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>>163194217
>>163194379
I always thought it was supposed to be Gerard kek
I just noticed the tattoo under the eye.
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>>163194368
Cease
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>>163194404
I hope so. I hate it when quick play shitters moan about his dps when he can get countered in eighty different ways. There's a reason you don't see him in good games.
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>>163194242
>Increase projectile speed by 33%
>Direct hits do 140 damage
>Half the cooldown on concussion mine
>Two traps can be up at once
>Ult Tire will still explode when it's shot down

There, I fixed him.
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>>163194306
Oh also
>says I should be able to 1v6 the enemy team
>his reasoning behind this is that I have a hook + one shot combo, and self heal so I should easily be able to win every 1v6
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>>163194509
>>Half the cooldown on concussion mine
If he doesn't throw it as far, sure.
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>>163194374
I like playing Junkrat against her.
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>>163194465
>''Hey. Anon. You see the mistletoe? It's only to go down from here.
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>>163194374
Reinhardt, Reaper, Ana, Pharah

She's so easy to kill why is the Mei meme still alive?
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What's the rank cutoff for being able to have an opinion on game balance?
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>>163194509
>>Increase projectile speed by 33%

This one is probably the most important tbqh
Those things are so fucking slow, seems like he's throwing them with his hands instead of a grenade launcher.
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>>163194509
His nades need to explode about .5 seconds faster imo, sometimes they sit there for ages just rolling around
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>>163194749
Whatever tier is one higher than yours.
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>>163194227
Did that Goku guy yell in chat a lot? I grouped with a Goku and he was trolling so hard I couldn't tell if it was ironically or unironically. We ended up winning in the end though.
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>>163194749
When you realise Lucio is the most OP hero.
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>>163194749
I think 3000 is a decent cut off, but 3400 is best to avoid plat shitters who lucked out during placements. 3400 because some high ranked people end up slipping to around here if they don't play comp for too long.
>>163195009
>Lucio
>more OP than Ana "The One Woman Meta" Amari
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>>163195009
Holy shit waffle is this nigga serious?
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>whole life think dva is shit
>she says "happy halloween" in match
>new life is to protect dva
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>>163192662
You stop shooting. Most D.Va's will lower it. That's when you shoot.
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>>163194749
See >>163194846.

Alternatively, just requires a lot of game sense and gaming experience (especially if said experience is playing similar games). You can have crazy good mechanical skill that landed you in GM and still not know such balancing rules like better offence means defence needs to be weaker. You can also be an amazing support stuck in Plat because your performance is so reliant on your randomly chosen teammates.

Casters have great game sense and they can judge players playing on the highest level even though they're Gold shitters. Blizzard staff don't play this game on the highest level yet they're the ones making balancing decisions.
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pls give me the mei x junkrat imgur ;-;
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>"Anon, come here and give mommy a kissu"
How do you respond?
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>>163195240
Afk!
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I have a problem guys hopefully someone can help.

If I charge money into my battle.net account but on another country I will get my wallet with let's say euros, but if I log in my account on USA the money will become dollars instead of Euros?
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>>163195240
kys
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>>163195216
>You can also be an amazing support stuck in Plat
t. support main stuck in Plat because me ooga team booga.
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>>163195240
give mommy a kissu
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>>163190781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doVQemLlhW8

This is some of the cringiest shit associated with this game I have ever seen. Thoughts?
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>Mystery Heroes
>about to win
>30 seconds left
>they get triple D.va
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>>163195068
>>more OP than Ana "The One Woman Meta" Amari
>Ana was a lot stronger during 50% discord
>was never ever picked in place of Lucio

Stay blind. Shitters are known for being unable to understand soft power.
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>>163195003
Reposting from old ded thread
I had a game the other day on route 66 and everything was okay even if we were losing I was still having fun.
But this fucking soldier he watched them push the payload and win while he was just shooting like 10 feet away.
So I ask them wtf are you doing
"I got their healers"
I tell him he should've contested instead of watching them win and then
"Hey man it's just quick play"
I tell him oh okay and the next game we switched sides so I go attack bastion and he gets pissy over it. We could not leave the spawn room so he rage quits. I laugh, change to Pharah, and win the game with potg.
Felt fucking glorious.
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>>163195240
Tell her to close her eyes, whip out dick, force it down her throat.
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>Other team has a Junkrat and Pharah
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>>163195440
I stopped playing that shit after the enemy team got three Zaryas and we got three lucios
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>>163195470
Weak bait.
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>>163195382
If I played support, I'd definitely be stuck in Plat, yes.
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>>163195358
GOOSH GOOSH
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>>163195570
Nice """"""""""""""argument"""""""""""""".
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>>163195326
what are you up to, anon?
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>>163194612
too bad junkrat is bad

>>163194723
>reinhardt
wall
>reaper
icecube and team kills him
>ana
wall
>pharah
use your own ranged projectile that's far faster than hers
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>>163195660
Nice """"""""""bait"""""""""", faggot. Ana wasn't picked because teams didn't realize that she was good. What's your reasoning behind the tank meta not exploding until recently? Is it because 2/2/2 is better than triple or quad tank?
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>>163194749
Any rank. I am a Masters shitter, but I think people even lower like diamonds and plats should have a voice because they play the game too, and Blizzard needs to balance in a way that keeps the game fun for the majority rather than the cream of the crop since this is how they will keep making money.
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>>163195674
Moving from one country to another.
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>>163195758
>Reinhardt
Walk around the wall? Swing through the wall?
>reaper
What is wraith mode and extreme burst damage
>ana
What is sleep dart/Grenade
>pharah
Kek, are you sitting still or something?

Sorry you're a shitter. Keep playing bad against mei.
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>>163195830
>>163195830
So much this
>>163195758
>Junkrat
>Bad
Hooly dooly
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>>163196046
>So much this
t. Bronze/Silver/Gold/Plat Reddit-using nigger.
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>>163195440
>enemy payload is guarded by 3 reins
>the payload has a bastion on it, mowing down anyone who gets near the pain train
>keep rolling heroes i'm bad at
>team is incompetent
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>>163196046
Different anon but he is bad in the current meta compared to other heroes. He is easily countered and his damage is unreliable.
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>>163194852
nope was silent whole time and went on being shit the whole time
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>>163193227
>>163192289
>>163191932

How to buff Winston:

- Tesla cannon deals 1.6x damage to shields

-Tesla Cannon and Primal Rage punches ignore armor

- barrier Cooldown starts immediately after activating

- Activating primal rage does omnidirectional knock back and 40 damage while casting.

- Damage from jetpack jump can reach a cap of 75 depending on height and distance traveled
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>>163196139
>Damage is unreliable
Explain please
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When will they fix the fucking emotes in this game?
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>>163196353
excuse me
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>>163196173
>its another "buff every single ability this hero has" episode
Worked well with Zen.
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>>163196225
Unless you can follow up his bulk damage it's doing more harm then good feeding ult charge to their healers
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>>163196225
He can shred into crowds all day but his damage relies on direct impacts and c4/trap combos which boils down to 1v1 play by that point. Unless the enemy team is retarded they aren't going to stand by and watch him and his damage is mitigated by shielding heroes that provide 3 or 4 seconds of safety for healing.
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why is dva such a sexy bitch
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>>163195776
>>What's your reasoning behind the tank meta not exploding until recently?
>D.va buff
>S76 buff preventing tank killers like Reaper or Mei to get close enough
>Lucio nullifying the short range problem of tanks
>Bastion being underpowered
>Speed boost countering Bastion
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>>163191401
There's only one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfRiCYfEUI0
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Will Blizzard give us some kind of christmas present? Maybe a new animated short for someone?
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>>163196409
>>163196424
Ah good points
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I don't like losing. How do I get back at all the people who have costed me games?
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>>163196370
There are a lot of clipping issues with a lot of emotes. Like genji's sword and Zen's hands.
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>>163197048
make poopy
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>>163197064
Genjis sword is fucked by nature.
Sheath cant contain it, but he still needs to press button to unleash his dragon.
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Winston has the best voicelines in the game. You can't prove me wrong on that.
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Blue post
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>>163197185
He is the worst tank though.
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>play 3 rounds of QP
>Attack: Volskaya
>Attack: Temple of Anubis
>Attack: Hanamura
Who the fuck thought 2CP was a good idea?
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>>163191082
>he has a super jump and 500 health to serve as a rodeo clown and escape safely as long as he doesnt throw himself into more than 3 enemies
>symmetra can just walk and cross her fingers she doesnt lose 1v1s

M8.....
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>>163197187
Nooo, I like my shield generator being discrete
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>>163197340
>cross her fingers she doesn't lose 1v1
Have you played symmetra or...?
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>>163197314
>blizzard thinks a 20 seconds walk to point A is fine for defense
>when all characters are slow as molasses and we have like 10 seconds of respawn time

Why?
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>>163197314
Me because I'm actually having fun on them on both sides
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>>163197634
You aren't supposed to go back to point A if you die, just set up on point B instead.
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>>163197672
Nice try, Jeff.
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>>163197314
>But overall, we like Assault as a mode and we think the maps provide a lot of exciting Overwatch moments.
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>>163196530
Alright, so you're 100% baiting. Got it. Go back to being gold, nigger.
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>>163197456
Roadhog and Mei easily beat her 1v1
Tracer, Pharah, Genji and Lucio can just run away
Mcree wins if he gets stun off
Ana sleep darts
Soldier and Reaper can win if their aim isn't shit
Winston and Rein will out tank her
Sym v. Sym is whoever gets microwave off first

Pretty much just Zenn, snipers and Mercy that get fucked up by her
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>>163197314
2CP has been a staple of many shooters since TF1. The only problem is that no game has done it competitively before. Only now people are starting to realize how shitty the game mode is for esports and hardcore players.

Though I don't have a problem with them in QP. They shouldn't be in competitive though.
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>>163191818
>London
>capping the point
>GET READY FOR A SHOCK!
>Tire coming
>don't know where it is
>back the fuck up to the health locker hotel
>tire coming
>it sees me
>noone else tries to shoot it
>pull out pistol
>ez pz destroyed
>cap the point and walk around the choke to get an arrow in my face
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>>163197812
>Count draws only as the eventual outcome of a match
>Don't count draws that cause the game to extend into tiebreaker rounds
That's probably the biggest bullshit about them handling it.

The fact that tiebreakers can result in a draw is absurd enough. I want to see the % of draws that result in tiebreakers.
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>>163196385
>Tickle gun
>Paper barrier that blows away after 5 seconds and can't move with massive CD
>shit situational ult that serves more as a more of an ultrasound farm for the enemy team than anything
>Splash jump that has horribly variable damage no matter movement

Winston hasn't been touched since the start of the game, and the massive amount of changes to all the other characters has significantly make him less and less viable.

And even most of the nerfs he got originally were because "muh double Winston meta" that was perform hero stacking was barred.

As his own tank, he is only even remotely viable on KOTH for contesting ability, but now with 76 buffs, dva buffs, reaper still being his hard counter, sym completely throwing the balance on its head in tank-centric meta, ana still being crazy good, he just isn't that useful.

Especially when shields generator being active and any character with armor is essentially immune to tickle gun, Sombras being able to lock down flanking heals / hacking to make Winston a free 20% ult boost, Winston needs his set polished up and buffed to compete.

Being the "genji and sniper hard counter" doesn't mean anything anymore when genji is being displaced by 76 and snipers are few and far between on teams
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>>163197868
At least in comp you play both sides. In QP if you end up in attack you just lose unless the enemy team is dumb as fuck, Hanamura in particular is fucking terrible.
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>>163197456
>Ana and zenyatta shit on her
>mercy flies away
>tanks die too slow to her
>mcree flashes her
>mei freezes her
>pharah and widow outrange her
>soldier runs away
>lucio pushes you

She's not bad, just not good at 1v1s. She shines when flanking healers during team fights tho

Which made me go from 2300 to 3100 after being stuck for a while there
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Symmetra used to give everyone 50 shield.
It was wildly overpowered, so they nerfed it to 25.
Now she can give everyone 75 shields.
How does this logic follow?
Why did kaplan approve this
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>>163198103
She could do it on demand and not as an Ult.
How the fuck is this even a question?
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>>163198103
Because it's an ult now.

One that charges too fucking fast.
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>>163198103
The logic is that the 50 shields were on her E ability and had infinite range, dummy.
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>>163198103
She needs to work for her shield generator and it has range, although a big one

And enemies can destroy it

It's fine
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>>163198095
just to think a few weeks ago i would be reported for picking a troll hero
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Got to sat I was happy to see the "Boop" and "Dia de los Muertos" sprays in the stream yesterday
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>>163198201
She has one of the fastest charging ults in the game.
All you have to do is survive one push to give everyone 75 shields.
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>>163198298
Good stuff man. Time for the symmetra reinasance
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>no matter how quickly you destroy my turrets as symmetra, I still pull 15-25% ult charge in the first 5 seconds of the game by placing two outside of each offensive doorway

Think they'll nerf this?
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>>163197187
And no news on how shit sombra is or how unbalanced the meta is

No we need news on voice lines for a shield generator
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>>163198426
Well, technically it DOES have something to do with balance, m8
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>>163198381
>turrrets give no ult charge to the people who destroy it
>but the player who placed those turrets still get ult charge from it
I hate this change more and more.
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There was a ~30 MB patch right now.
Someone know what was changed?
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Meri Kurisumasu!
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>>163198579
MERCY BUFFS INCOMING
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I just played my 6th 2CP game in a row, going 0-6.
Ask me anything before I kill myself
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>>163198579
They added a new character. Send me $100 if you want me to tell you how to unlock him.
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>>163191262
Im mad this gets me hard, fuck you
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>>163198426
Wouldn't expect that kind of posts from the writer. Although I don't think Kaplan has posted at all today. Who knows maybe they'll make another dev video but I wouldn't expect much.
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I think Sombra is not that bad after all, she's just a mislabeled Support hero.
She can take care of squishies and weakened enemies, and she can cripple strong enemies in critical situations.
Don't get me wrong, she really needs a buff, but she's not the absolute shit, unusable hero that this thread had me believe.
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>>163198492
She earns her ult ridiculously fast. I couple the turrets with pre-fired orbs of death for max charge.
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i just want the yeti ;_;
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>its yet another draw on hanamura
Just rework the fucking map already.
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I just realized I never play flankers. I never even ended up picking up Sombra because of it. I don't really play Tracer, Genji, or Reaper.

Anyone have ideas for best flanker to start with, or tips for flanking in general or specific characters that took you a while to find out?
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>>163199001
Creeper is a good start
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>>163198995
What's the problem with it?
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>>163199001
Do you usually play hitscan? Use Tracer.
If not, go Genji.
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>>163198781
Blizzard wants you to play her as this hacker flanker but she is best if she sticks with the group, hacks packs along the way and disables tanks.
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>>163198781
Shed be better if they reduced or removed the delay for hacking/attacking out of stealth
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>>163191818
>mercy's pistol does a surprising amount of damage
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>>163198781
How about they remove the fucking rediculous "LOOK GUYS I'M HERE" shout she does when she leaves invisibility. Why do people have to ruin a good thing?
>>
First time competitive player here. I've lost my first three placement matches because I've had teams full of retards (I had four golds as FUCKING REINHARDT).
How do you vets deal with horrible teams? Does it badly affect what rating I will get? Cheers.
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>>163199406
Maybe rightclick a bit more as Rein?
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>>163199406
placement matches mattered fuckall if you had played a previous season, dno how it is if this is your first ranked season

i don't "deal" with horrible teams in any particular way, i just accept that the game is out of my control and eat the loss. no point getting frustrated or tilted. that will carry over to next games
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>>163199150
Point B favours defenders too much and there are no good flanks.

Even if you get past the choke you need to teamwipe the enemy with a combo or they'll be coming one by one with tanks and Mei.

Symmetra rework made this map even worse.
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>>163199406
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>>163199513
>just, like, be cool about it, man and accept the universe for destiny bro cmon mad no point getting mad, man
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>>163198426
>>163197187
>>163198742

It is really close to xmas desu

I wouldn't expect any balance related stuff till like the 3rd of januar, Im guessing early jan we'll get the dev response on balance and when Oasis is coming and whatnot
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>>163199468
Yeah I was doing that at first but the team mates weren't actually killing anyone. Sucks
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>>163199682
that really is how i deal with it. it helps that i have always all the chats muted so other people can't influence me by being insufferable
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>>163199193
Being just ahead or on the flanks of your team is best I find, then swoop in and disable and focus

Wrecked a few Symmetras too, if you have EMP up you can wipe her out (it drops her to 50% health essentially) or at the least take out the generator and sweep away her turrets, not to mention you can scout for he nest super fast invisible and teleport to save time / escape if you start getting microwaved
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>>163199406
I won 7 of my placement matches, drew 1, and lost 2(1 we got swept, 1 we had a leaver), and had 3 gold average in each game

Got fucking placed in gold at 2288

I don't understand at all how placement works. I got 6 draws, 2 wins and 2 loses last season and ranked plat out the gate at 2822
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>>163199793

>Tfw emp does absolutely nothing to sym's turrets and buildings

For what purpose
>>
who is the go to streamer?

I'm new to overwatch and looking at the top streamers right now, gotta say they're shit

so far linkzr is alright, looking for others though
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>>163199690
i swear to fucking god if they don't port this new option over from PTR to main client along with the update that introduces oasis

after playing a bit with it on PTR regular OW feels so unresponsive
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>>163195240
Full pic, pls?
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>>163199893
Mendo when he's streaming.
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>>163199893
I like watching sterr and seagull
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>>163199893
surefour and tvique are good streamers to watch, both entertaining and really good
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>>163193985
I'm going to try Overwakfu now, thanks anon
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>>163199924
What exactly does it do?
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>>163199193
>she is best if she sticks with the group, hacks packs along the way and disables tanks.

That's pretty much how I've been playing her: stay with the group, hack medpacks, hack Zaryas and D.Vas from behind Reinhardt's shield, also sometimes I manage to hack a Tracer or Genji who are busy harassing our healer, things like that.

>>163199307
>>163199359
Yeah, both of those things are pretty fucking retarded. It's not like her gun does enough damage to insta-kill someone if you catch them off guard.
I mean, sure, let her have an uncloaking sound or something, but get rid of ¿ME EXTRAÑASTE?
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>>163199893
Seagull, Moon2, Ster are my favorites
>>
>symm shield generator has massive range
>most symm shits still place it right on the point like it was a teleporter
>get destroyed instantly
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Someone post that Pharah hips webm
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>Get Hanzo and Widowmaker
>They can't kill the afk torb
>Kill him as lucio
>>
Post your main and the music you listen to while playing him/her.

Junkrat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bojCtgxb72Q
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>>163200271
https://oldgray.bandcamp.com/track/blunt-trauma
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>>163200271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keXfiffBzFw
works for both
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>>163200008
Neck yourself, my man
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>>163200239
This one?
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>>163199959
Where can I upload a 640Mb image?
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So I'm a nublet currently spamming QP and waiting for the right opprotunity to pounce and do my placements. Right now in QP I typically pair with goldies and today even paired with a plat. However I noticed that if I leave a game or two I immediatley get paired with striaght up bronzies. So I was just wondering if people have a decent grip on hidden QP MMR and how it impacts where you start your placements at. I figure right now its a good plan to wait until I start getting consistently paired with plat players and occasionally some diamond, then if I do reasonably well in placements I'll have a shot at diamond. Does that seem about correct? Near as I can tell currently if you level an acct to 30 and immediatley do placements, if you go perfect you'll likely get plat, if you do well but not perfect you'll get gold, if you do mediocre you'll get silver, and if you do mediocre but have been leaving QP games you'll get bronze.
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>>163200084
If you watched the series I think you will like it a lot, it's like having Amalia and Evangelyne in every game.
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>>163200364
She looks good with a dick
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>>163200357
>wahhh I won't be a popular streamer
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>>163200185
That's an elaborate way of saying you are underage and stuck in gold
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>>163199798

Placed 2900~
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any good streamers that are worth watching?
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are you fucking KIDDING me right now? i want the YETI

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>163200561
>>163199893
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>>163200495
>I have a superiority complex over which twitch streamers I watch
doesnt get much more bottom feeder than this
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>>163200152
>Instakill if you catch them off gaurs
Yeah if someone is so retarded that they let her dump 60 fucking bullets in their skull they deserve it then
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>>163200621
Are you me?
Because that's the same skin I got in a box hoping it was yeti
you're not me though because I already got the yeti skin in it another box :^)
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Pls help
How to get better at aiming
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>>163200364
ty
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>>163200837
custom game
skirmish
all enemy Ana
headshots only
repeat until you git gud
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I'm trying to figure out here who exactly even wanted Symmetra to ever be viable in the first place

Like yes what we need here is for a hero that requires literally 0 mechanical skill to be good, that's what makes for engaging gameplay.
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>>163200097
Post more alternate armors
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>>163200837
Move your mouse
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>>163200681
>"I would like my opinions to remain un-scrutinized on 4cheng"
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Sounds dumb, but I think Torb is actually pretty fuckin good. Has anyone else had success with him?
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>>163200930

I want all heros to be good. Not all of them have to be meta 6's material but good enough to where they aren't unworkable.

Winston takes zero mechanical skill but you will die immediately if you're a fucktard and just jump into people like a dumbass. He still needs buffs despite this.
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>>163201012
His changes made him much more playable, and with symmetras changes his defensive capabilities are unreal.
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>>163201012

He's not awful but when three tanks covered in shields is speedboosting at you his turret is worthless.
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>>163200985
Pretty sure you have seen it already, but I think it's neat.
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>>163200985
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>>163201012

Real talk Torb is actually good now

The hammer changes are great. The armour change is just a quality of life improvement

>Gibraltar first point defense
>Payload nearly reached the 1st check point
>Literally entire team dead other than 1 guy who is just behind big doors

>Turret is down
>Do or die
>MOLTEN COOOOOOORE
>Jump down from ledge
>Run around payload contesting with fucktons of armour
>Dropping armour packs between M2'ing people
>Stall long enough for team to show up
>kill zarya and dva mech
>Live through it


There was this weird moment as the team showed up as everyone realised that Ikea Dorf held the line on his own
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>>163200930
I really though she was gonna stay as the joke character in the game, like tachanka from rainbow six siege (who got buffed), and jigglypuff from all smash games but melee

Atleast she's fun as fuck now
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>>163200985
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>>163201365
>'NERF THIS'
>they buffed it
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>>163201380
What a slut
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>>163200097
>>163200985
>>163201284
>>163201349
>>163201380
I would drop 3k coins on this without hesitation
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>>163201376
she's still just as boring, i get no satisfaction from holding m1 on enemies when it doesn't even require me to aim

sure, her new E is more interesting but it's still not that fun
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>>163200837
Reduce your sensitivity and move your mouse more it helped me so much
Side effects may include suddenly becoming shit with your good characters such as pavement pork
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>now arriving a lijang tower
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so we're in agreement?
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>Mercy is oblivious to your presence
Uninstall and neck yourself immediately, fucking cunt.
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>>163201380
>>163201380
>>163201475
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>>163201012
Not great on his own but a good team player, the changes to how scrap is generated really helped him a lot; you make the whole team more resilient and sometimes you have a sort of emergency self heal by giving yourself the armor.

Also, it's not particularly efficient, but I find it fun when I manage to finish off someone with the hammer.
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>>163201475
This gave me an idea.
>Mercy sneaking armor
>dark colored armor
>ponytail that also takes the hair that falls to her side
>wears a mask that covers her lower face
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>>163201569
AND WHAT ABOUT SOMBRA?!?!?!
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>>163201569
>Not updated for new characters
Reeeee
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>>163200903
>>163201519
Thank you anon. Any tips of how to hold mouse? Only recently I've found that you shouldn't move only wrist but rather your arm. Any tips for mouse grip and so on?
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>>163201481
To me it's more fun dodging enemy fire like crazy while microwaving them. Feels like symmetra's on a rodeo.

Placing sentries in new places and it working also feels great, I've actually killed people at the beggining of the match by putting 6 turrets somewhere I know they're gonna walk through and all but their healer will just pass through

I also find point and clicking boring as fuck, but to each their own I guess
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>>163201591
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>>163200930
All heroes should be good why the fuck does one have to be unplayable because you can't handle it? Playing as Symmetra you got extreme hate and was not allowed to play past first point. She needed to be changed. Because of how little people saw her. Nobody knew how to deal with her especially now she can survive a bit more. I was able to dominate even before the patch this just makes it more simpler. Of course I be happy if they just made her shield give back health depending on the amount of damage taken.
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>>163201569
Outdated garbage.
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>you'll never make snow angels with Mercy
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>>163201584
>Solo healing
>Enemy lineup is projectile spam
>Desperately dashing from one person to another while they angrily mash X and ask for healing in chat
Best rounds.
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>>163201376
don't hate tachanka, he's pure
also his turret is hilarious if you actually get kills with it
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>>163201569
>symmetra
>doesn't exist

Boiiiiii

Now, Have complementary touhous
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>practice my aim tirelessly for 4 hours every day
>blizzard updates symmetra the 0 aim hero and every shitter gets to move up in rank
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>>163201660
Just keep your fingers on it and off the mouse mat, use your arm for general aim and fine tune with the wrist
Had to resist urge to just put keep your fingers on it at all times and enjoy the ride
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>>163201857
He's shit and he'll always be shit, but there are rare cases that the the turret comes in handy and is fun But only in casual
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>>163201857
>have gotten 5 aces with tachanka
>pre buff I aimed his turrrt up so the ammo disk covers my head and shoot them down as soon as they have to reload

I used tachanka most of the time, or his retarded brother, kapkan
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>doing really well and approaching my last season's best
>suddenly losing every game in a row
>consistently getting teams that put up a phenomenal attack and then somehow, against all odds, just let the enemy walk the cart to victory regardless of how far we pushed it
>now placed lower than after my placement matches
>all the hard work to attempt to claw my way through gold has now gone to waste in less than a day
i really am a shitter fucking damnit
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>>163202058
I remember the bug where if you removed the kapkan traps halfway and then stopped, they were invisible. exploited the fuck out of that
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>>163201854
>Solo healing
>dashing between your snipers and your front line
>Topping everyone off
>Getting three man rez's
>Win on the first point

Can you imagine how much more fun she's going to be once they buff her?
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>>163201481
Don't play Symmetra then? Since its obviously not your play style.
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Damn QP is completely unplayable now. People just constantly leaving.
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>>163202128
stop solo queuing you fuck.
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>>163202019
>pre buff
>teammates hate symmetra
>post buff
>enemies hate symmetra

How does she do it? Someone's always pissed at her and she just says "I'll put you in your place". My role model. Not the part where she shits on designated streets tho
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>>163201767

>Winston has had 8 meter autoaim gun since launch
>He's so trash it doesn't even matter

Why doesn't he get any buffs?
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>>163201726
this an fps, aiming is the most core mechanic of this game. heroes like winston and symmetra that barely require it are a design failure

you can jump around like crazy dodging enemy fire with any other dps hero too but on top of that you also need to aim your shots at the same time making for a more engaging gameplay experience
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>>163202215
>season 3 never
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i want to rape Mercy in the ass.
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>>163202346
Don't ask me I want all heroes to be good/decent but I am not the one in charge. I was hoping they just give him a better shield with the ability to eat peanut butter that gives him a damage reduction buff for a bit.
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are drawfags welcome here
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>>163202361
The game has slow as molasses characters so aiming isnt even hard in this game and thus they put no aim, shit range characters, which get stomped by people who know how to aim and have superior range.

So you're practically getting angry at inferior characters.

Now, if it was quake or unreal tournament, having good aim and no auto aim weapons means good design, as players move fast as fuck all the time
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>>163202346
Because it would be too much fun anon
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>>163202058
Kapkan is amazing, you can't do good with his traps because you are prey, not a predator
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>>163202609
Yes love drawings.

Draw more cute gremling dvas (and maybe other characters with gremlin dva faces)
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>>163202361
winston is hard and rewarding to play right because you can destroy the enemy backlines if you're doing well. the challenge is figuring out the correct positions and correct timing. the problem with symmetra is that she can mostly 1v1 every hero in the game as long as the opposite hero misses a shot or is taken by surprise.
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>>163200271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSR9W8g6ak8
WE STOP FOR NO ONE
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>>163202609
Shit I wouldn't mind, how's your Mei?
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>>163198325

Now we just need her to get a buff to something, anything. Shes just not viable enough currently but I love using her.
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>>163201192

Torb is actually good in tank meta because his turret has an ungodly range.

Zarya cant reach it, hog cant reach it, dva has to fly out of position and almost always loses her mech for it because she cant destroy the turret and DM at the same time

Rein only affects it if he has his shield up, and it should always be your top priority in this meta to pop their shield before they pop yours
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>tfw you bully a mercy all match and there's nothing they can do about it
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>>163202361
Aiming means shit anyways since most of it gets blocked/eaten by shields. Remove that garbage then we can talk about bringing in aiming for every hero.
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>>163202767
>>163202734
ive not drawn mei yet but i really like all the characters a lot. gremlin dva is just my favorite because of that cute stupid dorito dusted face.

it'd be fun to draw other gremlins tho
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>>163200097
Wonder how the lantern would look on first person
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HAHAHAHAH RANKED IS A JOKE. A FUCKING JOKE.

I duoqueued with a friend, we did our placements.

We won 8. We lost 2. He placed 3300, I placed 2580. We were in the same fucking matches, I was having really good performance by abusing the new Symmetra (shit like: 14/0 + gold medals). But it placed us

SO
FUCKING
FAR
APART

All because it takes 90% of its weight from <previous season rank>.

You play well? Doesn't matter. You win against opponents that are all Diamonds (some of our placement matches was literally 10 Diamonds + us)? Doesn't matter. You placed badly last season? Enjoy placing badly this season. And every. Season. Yet. To. Come.

I think we can't even duo queue anymore now with the SR difference being so large.


A JOKE. A SAD, PATHETIC JOKE OF A SYSTEM.
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>first game of the game
>sperglord Ana cries on mic when we go triple tank, says he won't heal if we don't get another healer
>everyone silently ignores this retard
>switches to a dps because he's a child
>someone complies
>he switches back to Ana, doesn't fucking ult once and couldn't aim for shit
>blocked his stupid ass the moment he started talking, apparently he was a sperglord for the entire match

I just want to fucking climb

Why do I always get these fucking people
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>>163202991
Holy shit you got figgedy fucked
>>163202964
I like both gremlin and regular dva but I hope you do draw her
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>>163202991
Climb to where you think you deserve and next season you'll be pleased when you get put back at a nice high rank
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>get killed
>Mei teabags you
>not mad because you got teabagged, but sad because her soft cheeks will never engulf your face
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>>163192123

> On the monitor is this picture

Jeez that really destroys the flow of the joke.
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>>163202821
>flank as symmetra
>see mercy slowly burn as the reinhardt she has right besides her is shielding from my team's fire
>after having all my power on the gun I melt zenyatta
>after the enemy has no healers our team curbstomps them and easily captures the point
>enemy mercy about to rez but her flight gets slowed and she dies to my 6 turrets I placed where I predicted she would fly through
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>>163202991
if you do it how you imply it will mean that if you're a gold shitter and you group up with a diamond, you'll end up a diamond simply by playing lucio
their system really isn't great from what I've seen but I can't think of a system that wouldn't have some kind of major issue
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>>163203264
...why you gotta remind me about that anon
but hey at least I got a thicc gf that will more than happily do that
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>>163199758

Or so you cant't hear team mates and coordinate to win either right?
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>>163202187
>>163201854
I hope she gets buffed so you healfriends are happy.
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>>163203149
Thing is I can't climb without my friend.
He's the positive one who uses voice comms and makes the team function. I'm the salty one, but I stayed silent and focused throughout the placements even though it was hard.

Without him I'll have those dreaded Plat matches where nobody speaks and nobody would listen anyway. Where Junkrat is instapick and no matter what I pick, we'll either be without a tank or a healer. I will tilt so hard and drop SR without his positive attitude I just know it.
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>>163200271
I have an entire playlist but this is my go-to lucio jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2XADj8z9Y
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>>163200930
I wanted her to be good. Symmetra needs love too.

>what we need here is for a hero that requires literally 0 mechanical skill to be good
>in this game when tanks exist
I don't get the rage for Symmetra also there's only a few mechanical heroes in this game.
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>>163202991
It's a golden opportunity for you. Team up with your 3300 friend and Go as a damage dealer and when you win you'll gain 50 or more. Worked for me

If you stomp the other team stay as a team, it works
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>>163203494
Thanks friend. Buff coming soon hopefully
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>Love playing Rein and almost always get potg
>Have zero skins, emotes and highlights
>Tempted to get some but event shit holds first priority
Why the fuck didn't best boy Rein get anything for Christmas?

Also post Rein
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>>163203695
Because Rein consistently has the best skins
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>tfw starting to accept ill always be stuck in 1500-2000 sr
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>>163203494
Me too. I just hope she isn't overbuffed because admittedly her Ult can be a bit annoying to face against.

There's just something so nice and zen playing her.
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>>163203628
that's an adorable pic. saved
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Why is Mercy so precious?
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>>163203695
>rarely play rein
>forced to play him as some guy really wants to play genji
>zarya tells me she's got me covered
>tell her when I'm gonna rush down their healers
>get easy triple kills by pinning a tank, then hammering the other 2 guys behind it
>zarya always bubbling me and helping me clean the rest, netting 5 team kills

That zarya was a true pal
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>>163203695

>>163203782
this ^
on top of the fact he has like 6 legendary skins already on top of that they're some of the best in the game, at least he got that toast pose rien doesn't need more honestly
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>>163203861

>Being stuck in shitter town
>Not having fun playing whatever class because who gives a shit it's silver
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>>163203861
How do people even go below 2000? I still can't wrap it around my head
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>people actually calling symmetra overpowered

good god, this is like day 1 bastion all over again.
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>>163203869
>>163204002
>>163203880
My fellow mercy players. I really do have fun playing her. Healing others makes me happy.

I just wish she wasn't so team-dependent or an easy kill.
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kill me
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>Everyone agrees tanks need to be scaled back down and nerfed, like ana and lucio

>Blizz's january balance response is to buff Bastion, Pharah, Junkrat and Reaper to match them

>Yfw
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>>163204140
lol I just got gold elims in qp. People are retarded.
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>>163204356
What? Source. Why the fuck
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>>163204253
Who's that yellow glowing character?
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>>163204356
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I'm bored /owg/.
Let's play a game.

Make any skill in the game sound as trivial as possible.
I'll start:
>D.va materializes digital panels in front of her.
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How to fix Sombra:

>decrease spray radius
>Increase range
>decrease time to act after coming out of stealth

Now you can fight at Medium range and actually use stealth to surprise people.
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>>163204356

Pharah needs a small health buff because she's just way too fragile with 76 and Soldier existing. Maybe faster air movement instead or something.

Junkrat needs faster projectiles.

Bastion needs a complete rework because no numerical boost will ever fix him.

Reaper could maybe ignore armor or something but he's mostly fine.
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>>163204356
>buff Bastion, Pharah, Junkrat and Reaper to match them

DELET THIS
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What stats should a Plat McCree have?
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>>163203496
so basically you're correctly ranked
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>>163204356
Yes please.
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Are Defence characters the hated middle children of Overwatch?
>Hanzo
>Bastion
>Mei
>Junkrat's alright but everyone hates him
>Widowmains
>People still think Torb should be played like Engineer and hate it when he's picked but he's actually decent
In a game where the attacking side has the advantage, is there even a place for defenders?
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>>163204636
I like this, her gun is shit purely because of the spread spreading too fast
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>>163204356
don't get my hopes up like that anon
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>>163204636
Also make it so the hack isn't interrupted the second you lose sight of the target. It makes it pretty much useless when you could just attack them straight on anyway
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>>163204636
Well like I've already said, reduce/remove stealth delay on actions could work too
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>>163204016
>play rein
>team doesnt stick together and rather go full COD with muh epic solo frags from the sides and then dying
>blames me for being shit when I got fucking gold elims and objective time even though I pretty much tanked with a Lucio
Literally every game.
Better practice your aim in QP or outright hang yourself boyo.
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I feel like CP maps have been a problem for a long time, but people don't seem to make a big deal about how broken they are
Do you think blizz even knows about the problem?
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>>163204356
>Buff dps to kill tanks
>Now dps can delete 200 health heroes
>Screws over everyone but tanks
Oh I can't wait for when they screw it up like this
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Ok guys, I went and fact checked this shit about Metzen and Petras November anon keeps spouting. I also looked into some articles. It checks out.

But the reason I did it, other than try to prove him wrong, was to see if it leads anywhere. What it does mean is this:

In 2015 the lore was barely written and riddled with inconsistencies that were being rewritten and removed, like ages for example, but in no interview where Metzen goes on about "muh Soldier 76" was it mentioned that he needed more work, it's pretty much written from the perspective that the lore revolves around him.

So Petras and Metzen develop the character, Soldier 76, and it's those two that say there is a gay character already when hardly any lore is developed. And when you combine the fact that Metzen was shoehorning how much he wanted Overwatch to be progressive and reflect the world we live in well...

The best bet is it was going to and still is 76. This DOES NOT mean he is with Reaper in anyway. There is nothing anywhere to prove that or suggest it.

Now will Chu rewrite this? From the way he talked in Blizzcon no. From the way they bullshit in the kotaku article no. But this is all assuming that the story they claimed was coming out soon was First Strike. But who knows what the hell Chu was thinking when he canned it.
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>>163204356
I think it would massacre the game, but fuck it, I'd watch Rome burn.

Really though, just delete Ana.
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>>163205026
what's broken
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>>163205026
Here's their response
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>>163202991
Yes, you can group with your friend; you're only 800 SR apart, not 1000.

Your initial placement is "fuzzy", meaning there's a lot of uncertainty around it. Therefore, if you keep playing and winning, you will rocket upwards as the MMR-bot determines it made a mistake placing you low. Just keep playing.
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>>163191554
it's too powerful because of it's cooldown
It's the ultimate anti-ult machine
You try to bait it out so you don't get your ult deleted, but when you try and bait it out, you have no way of knowing if she is out of bar.
Even if she is, it regenerates enough to stop an ult like mei's or zarya's in less than 2 seconds.
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>>163205026
Pretty much everyone at higher ranks complains about them, but higher ranks are a small percentage of the game's populace, so there's not much of an outcry.

Recently map drafts were banned so you can't weasel your way out of 2CP as easily in tournaments, that caused a louder response and Blizzard responded with >>163205184.
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>teammate picks Symmetra on attack
>another teammate locks Genji and doesn't switch against triple tank
Haha what an absolutely EPIC meme!
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>>163191783
>Jesse Joel
is this a Jejo reference?
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>>163205026
>>163205184
>They change it so each tick on the point counts as a point
>3 each 6 total

Probably the best and simplest change those maps need. Doesn't stop them being boring as shit to play but there's no stopping that
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>>163205356
B-but Shadowburn successfully goes against triple tank!
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>>163204753
Mei sees a lot of tournament use especially on KotH and defence. Widow and Hanzo are often used for quick picks attacking 2CP maps.
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>>163205462
No. When McCree was revealed, one of the devs fumbled his name and called him Joel McCree. They had to clear it up afterward. Sombra's line is just a jokey reference to their screw up.
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>>163205478
I'd either increase defender spawn times if the point is being captured, or increase defender spawn times in increments per third captured.

More ticks would be nice too though.
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>>163204735
No, not really. I got fucked over in S1 and 2 placements by playing 90% supports, so it consistently placed me way lower than everyone else.

In S2 I won 7 games playing mainly Lucio and Tanks and it placed me at fucking 2395.
I know all of the game strats but my mechanical aim is bad; still I don't think I deserve to be queued with players that don't care about team comp, grouping, saving ults, etc. that basically just play the game in automatic zombie mode.

These S3 placements were a breath of fresh fucking air cause we actually had people talk and know what to do it was a different game altogether. I dont wanna SoloQ into shitter haven again.
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>>163205618
The problem with that is in lower ranks it's easier for the defenders to win, while the further up you go it becomes easier for the attackers.
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>Eichenwalde defense
>"damn this is gonna be easy"
>Lose because 4 dps
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>>163204253
wanna trade?
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>>163206076
>"dude they have 3 tanks, we'll take em out with 4 dps, trust me it worked last game
>other team's roadhog nets 50 kills
>mfw
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Tracer
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>>163206485
lold
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What are your dream balance changes?

>Ana nerfed
>Mercy buffed
>Some rework to lucio to make him less necessary which may not be a nerf
>Soldier nerfed
>Winston buffed
>Dva nerfs to health and matrix
>Buffs to Junkrat projectile speed
>Buffs to Pharah air speed

I just realized how much fucking work this game needs Jesus Christ.
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>>163206716
De-nerf Lucio's healing beats and SPEEDY SPEED BOY

Averaging 10k healing now, use to get over 15k in a match with ya boy
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>>163206716
all you did was make a new meta, i think
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who is the best pick on soloQ ?
when getting paired with retards and shitters, who is the best when you can't count on good healers or tanks ?
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>>163192149
At least the selfish assholes are competent in diamond. You can check the best of your team. Glue yourself to him and the match becomes easier.

In platinum-gold you have the bastion and hanzo tards that are also selfish and incompetent
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>>163194286
honestly
>right click does 75+ damage without headshots
>can beat the spacebar like your girlfriend to survive 70% of all encounters
>free 50 damage dash that brings them in range for your m2
>same dash lets you just nope out of 100% of situations
>ult is a skyscraper that does high damage
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>>163206845
I once got over 19,000 healing with speedo negro ;_;
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>>163206716

If you buff winston he becomes an absolute monster in koth
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>>163207108
Soon enough they'll buff winston anyway. He barely sees any play outside the top competitive teams
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>>163207108

Winston will always have a solid hard counter in reaper and Dva. Him being a stall shitlord doesn't stop him from having clear weaknesses and checks.
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>>163204229
Git gud
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>pick Bastion
>turret mode
>can't kill anything due to shields on top of shields on top of double heals on top of perfect aim from their dps
>recon mode
>SMG's small clip size and huge spread make picking off targets next to impossible
>tank mode
>enemy team's double healers ensure you can't kill anything before their tanks ult the shit out of you
How do we fix Bastion?
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>>163205184
almost 20% of the time for a map counts as rampant for that map.
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>>163207203
And Miro will finally ascend to godhood
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The only fun games are the ones where the enemy team can't even get to the first point.
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>>163207108
Winston needs his shield reverted to 1000 HP, and honestly could use a cooldown adjustment so that it begins cooling down on use instead of when the shield breaks.

If that was done he would be fine.
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>>163206716
Remove anything but Koth
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>>163196530
>Bastion being underpowered
I main him and I don't think that.
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Guess the virgin
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>>163206529
Is super flat.
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>>163207293

Rework him into heavy from TF2. Continuous, good damage at close to medium ranges but not insta-melt tier unless at shotgun distance. Slow movement while shooting. Can drop healthkits or heal himself.
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>>163207461
>namefag
>mains bastion
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>>163207545
You
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>>163207346
He also left out the overall rate for 2cp and included useless stats like 0% for koth
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>>163198075
they are gonna kill winston in a short and they purposely don't want him to be good so he doesn't become part of the meta.
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>>163207545
You
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>>163207545
Is it you?
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>I main Reinhardt.
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>Anubis attack
>pick Zenyatta
>very beginning of the match
>teammate says go straight to the point
>ok
>we pick off a defender
>Soldier and I are trying to get D.Va out of her mech
>we aren't getting much help, so we fall back
>where the fuck is everybody else?
>they're all going left for no reason I could possibly fathom, since we already have the fucking advantage
>we continue to get stalled
>enemy D.Va overextends, I kill her
>I am now yelling at my team, "PUSH IN! PUSH IN!"
>our Reinhardt is still literally just standing at the choke holding up his shield
>he is not moving forward at all
>WHY?
>what the fuck?
>I die
>20 seconds left
>we are moving in behind our Rein
>he then chooses to charge in instead of going in with his team
>dies instantly
>can't cap and eventually lose
>I am yelling at this point
>"Why the fuck did you never go in? We had the advantage several times and you literally just stood still at the choke!"
>>"We had to win the war attrition. If we rush in, we die."
>isdisniggaserious?
>"We already won, since we had the man advantage. Do you not have a fucking killfeed? Do you not know how this game works?"
>>"Dude chill, it's just a game! You're causing us to lose by yelling!"
>"Yeah, I'm costing us to lose. It has nothing to do with you being fucking retarded!"

And that's how I got muted for the fourth time. I know it's just a game, but how are people so fucking stupid and bad at this game? How many people on the enemy team have to die before our Rein realizes that he should be moving in? Why stand at the choke with your shield up doing nothing and give them a chance to respawn and rejoin their team? What opportunity was this fucker looking for? Why did I have to have him on our team?
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>>163206716
>Mercy's ult changed to something else but the rest of her toolkit buffed so she's useful at all times and isn't annoying to play against just because of her ult
>winston ignoring armor damage reduction and his shield starting to cooldown as soon as he puts it down
>Reduce Dva's armor to 300 as her matrix barrier can negate alot of damage on demand
>Reduce widowmaker's headshot damage to 250
>Increase hanzo's headshot damage to 275, making him a counter to symmetra's shield generator on 200hp heroes
>reduce soldier's damage against reinhardt and winston barriers
>decrease junkrat's raw damage but increase his projectile speed to make him more skill based and less random
>reduce roadhog's hook range so he doesn't hook you from across the map but still gets reliable kill if you get close enough, making pharah more viable after being made a roadhog counter
>Make bastion deal more damage against barriers and ignore armor but less against enemies directly, exchange 50hp from regular to armor

All I have in my head right now
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incest is good.
mommy pussy is good.
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>>163207461
>namefag
>mains bastion
hmm
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>>163207673
TL;DR lol
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>>163205335

>Map drafts were banned

Banned how?

Blizzard said you cant draft maps in tourneys anymore so people are forced to play Egpyt, Volskaya and Hanamura?

I get that they're "iconic modes" but its like TF2 all over again, the modes arent actually all that balanced.
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>>163207768
kill yourself
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>>163207461
>namefag
>mains bastion
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>>163206716
>Ana's healing grenade heal boost/reduction at like 50% instead of 100%
>Sombra range increase, spray decrease and able to act after stealth quicker

That's the only specific shit I can think of.
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I WILL MAKE HIM META
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What the fuck do i have to do to get past 3200?
No joke, i got 3199 about 4 times by now.

And i always go on losing streaks that tilt me to hell and back and makes me want to fucking punch myself in the face.

I always fill in games, if that matters, inevitably i always end up having to support, and i can play decently almost every character in the game.

People generally duo at this SR, right?
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>>163207545
You
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>>163207832
The latest tournament had pre-selected maps and the first map pool had a shit load of 2cp and Ilios which are all avoided in usual tournaments. The teams had to tell Blizz how shitty the maps are and they got a better selection
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>>163207986

Grenades now go 30% faster.
Tire now goes 50% faster.
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>>163207986
Thanks for the free charge I can melt your team with
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>>163208043
savage
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>>163208025
>tfw I get aimbotting mcrees all the time ever since I arrived to diamond

I'm going to back to gold fuck this
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>yfw when this
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thicc reaper
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>>163208052
And here's that initial map pool for the tournament. If you want to read all about it Reinforce wrote an article about the whole process.

https://medium.com/@re1nforce/two-step-backwards-one-step-forward-b23dd0f311a9#.2txqdp66c
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>>163208359
>mfw I'm the Mercy
I love checking Ult status before pressing Q.
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>>163208359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6-ZGAGcJrk
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I just started playing today. Who should I play?
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>>163208359
>yfw it's Lucio pushing mercy and a patient off a cliff
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>>163208638
mccree or genji
you gotta start from the top if you want to get somewhere in life
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>>163208381
I swear I'm not gay, but... damn.
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>>163208638
What kind of games do you usually play
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>>163208153
Never got this but why specifically Junkrat, anyone can charger her if you shoot her. If you can aim with Junkrat, which is certainly possible you don't charge her.
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>>163208638
play mistery match for a whole day, and see for yourself...
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>>163208381
>>163208381
>>163208381
>>163208381
>>163208381
>>163208381
>>163208381
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>>163208381
>>163208706
>>163208824
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>Play Rein
>No one on the point or going in when I do
>Team basically consists of dps going for muh epic frags only to get sniped by a skilled widow
Not even mad, got what they deserve
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>>163208638
That depends on what you want to do anon

If you've FPS experience and want to kill I'd go Soldier 76, if you're curious about how the game works pick Lucio or maybe Mercy, stay alive and keep your team topped up as best you can. The choices get more and more exotic after that
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>>163200271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzmo7qLO524
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>>163207673
>two matches later
>Dorado
>attack
>we have a Genji
>he does absolutely nothing
>we barely get the payload past the archway
>defense
>Genji goes Sym
>we manage to hold for 3 minutes
>our Sym peeks and gets killed
>we still manage to hold
>we need a tele bad
>he peeks again and gets killed again as fucking Symmetra
>WHY? Why am I put with people like this?
>everybody dies and we lose

I can't climb when teammates are actively trying to lose.
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>>163208446
>>163208052

Blizzard really needs to drop this whole "Do not look beyond the veil" style with their Overwatch esports stuff

Its very Riot-Esque

Admit some of the maps are bad for competitive, take em out of the pool for a while, let people play on the good shit while you work on a solution

Why can nobody in the industry look at their work objectively and say "Yeah its not good enough, we're working on it, hang with us" rather than peppering it constantly with "It looks problematic but it creates a lot of tense and exciting moments for us which is what we want as gamers!"

You're making a fucking game, get humble and work on it
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>>163208359
Sometimes I alt tab to my browser while dead, so when this happens I lose my shit.
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>>163200271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjE5A4UAJI
やれやれだぜ
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>>163200401
>try french voices
>MFW my two favorite brats in a video game are played by my two favorite brats in a cartoon
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>>163200271
Symmetra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y
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Ryūjin no ken o kurae!
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>>163209452
I'M GOING FOR GOBOLYASTEEN
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>>163209314
>my attention span literally does not last 10 seconds
Watch your kill cam to learn where you fucked up, spectate your team and make call outs or just use it to learn the enemy position before you go back in Jesus. Rounds only last 7min on average if you're playing a same just commit to the game
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>>163209439

Anon I am losing my shit right now, but any particular reason you associate symmetra gameplay with pizza delivery?
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Guys is it only me or every competitive game there is a 5 years old Hanzo in a team who only stays in spawnroom and blames the team?
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>>163209736
retarded faggotry
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>when your teammate says we need a bastion
I assumed he was being ironic, then he said it twice completely seriously

>when your teammate go torb to counter tracer
>after losing some people actually defend his pick

all in the same game
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>>163209286
Blizzard seems especially stubborn when anything goes against what they think is best.
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>>163209901

Torb does counter tracer though. Same as genji

Its a 300 hp target pumping out 1/3rd of her hp a second, and it doesnt miss.

Placed properly it prevents her doing her degenerate back line ganking of your supports and shit.
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>someone starts getting pissy at losing an objective/someone choosing something not META
>accuse them of crying over a video game
>they fuss even more and scramble to their own defense
>accuse them even more
i dont even care if we lose, people who whine about picks not being META SOLDIER ANA REINHARDT ZARYA DVA LUCIO deserve to lose
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>>163209750
I didn't get a 5 year old but I did manage to get a EU Hanzo who somehow found his way into a NA match.
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So when i get into D.Va vs D.Va fight, they always seem to somehow hit me through the matrix while i can't hit them when they have it up, regardless of distance between us. What's the secret here?
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>buff d.va
>buff torb
>give symm new shields
>everyone is tank now
>Reaper cant kill any tank now

xdddd
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>getting a bunch of upvotes from the enemy team
is there a better feel? they lose yet they appreciate your play, cool guys
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>>163209594

I'M GOING FOR THE TOILET SEAT
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>Playing non-stop for lootbox grinding
>W/L ratio tanking
>K/D tanking
>Individual hero stats tanking so I look even more like a shitter
>Have to play with my friends who are god fucking awful if they ask to group up
I'm literally in full despair mode. Getting my stats up to par is impossible.
At this point I don't even give a fuck about the skins. I'm so fed up with the game it's not even fun, it's a chore with all risk, no reward.
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>>163210472
Point blank shots tend to bypass DM. this is exploitable by a lot of heroes.

but honestly you shouldnt be matrixing a d.va vs d.va unless you're planning to escape.
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>>163207293
>SMG's small clip size and huge spread make picking off targets next to impossible
but I do exactly that by bursting

>>163207589
I agree. He should only melt at point blank and do alright and consistant damage at range.
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>>163210495
>Playing non-stop for lootbox grinding
Then why aren't you just playing quick play/arcade modes?
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Found this mercy. What do I do now?
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>>163210495
Stop grinding your life away on this game and getting worked up about it. Enjoy it and good stats will come to you.
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>>163210480
>Roadhog can oneshot Reaper
>Zarya is too narrow for Reaper's spread to ever fully connect
>D.Va has so much armor Reaper's damage is gimped

"tank buster"
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>>163207461
>namefag
>mains bastion
hmmmm
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>>163210614
Adopt and care for her
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>>163210556
That's the thing, it's from distance where the matrix does protect from other characters. I kinda assumed it's about shooting at legs or something but that doesn't seem to work.
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>>163210495
stop playing then idiot
if you do anything for too long non-stop it becomes shit
you're playing to get getting lootboxes first and playing the game second, which is why you're suffering. reverse the order.
go outside or play something else for a bit and you'll come back reinvigorated
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>>163210614
>halloween outfit on christmas

She is obviously retarded. Leave her at a police station.
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>>163208301
>their aim goes from shit to always on your head at random
>they don't know it's obvious as fuck
>They still don't get banned

Fuck this shit
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>>163210614
abuse her for sexual pleasure.
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>>163210492
PROPAGANDA IS USELESS
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>>163208973
I've been playing Roadhog. It's probably a noob character to play but he's fun
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>>163210858
>hackers don't get banned
>I get a 24 hour for saying gg ez
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>>163210707
Defense matrix actually doesnt cover d.va's entire front.
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GODDAMN IT BLIZZARD HOLY FUCK
SERVER ERROR RIGHT AS I'M STOMPING JESUS CHRIST
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, I WAS GONNA WIN THAT GAME TOO
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>>163210895
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>>163210492
I'M GON' FUCK YOUR ANUS SEE?
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>>163209286
Yeah, it's odd. Even if a company has a solid esports title it's like they don't want to understand why it's successful. Take CS for instance... Most of that game was pretty poor from a competitive perspective. Only demolition worked for competitive and once the scene gravitated fully to Match Rounds a lot of the demolition maps became unplayable. Most weapons sucked. But enough of that game was brilliant and that's why people kept playing it for more than a decade even though Valve tried to kill it with Steam and Source which totally missed the point. When de_dust was one of the first maps they showed for GO I thought they'd missed the mark again, but thankfully they managed to not completely fuck it up.

Nowadays it's like companies are scared to make some designer start crying over their map not being played or their asset not being used so they're simply forcing you to eat the content. And then they rebalance the game every other month because some character is played too much or too little and the fuckheads at Reddit rather whine for a patch than learn to play around it...
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>losing badly
>team literally cannot kill pharah
>its sub 2k
>error
Thank you internet hacker known as 4chan
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>>163200271
pharah/reinhardt

https://youtu.be/zncsd1dM9xI
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>>163211036
>>163211052
We were losing so shruggo
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anyone else just get booted?
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NA Server stability
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unexpected server error memes
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>watching blizzdrones trying to deny Ana or Symmetra being OP

Jesus Christ they're pathetic.
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I CAN"T GET IN!!! I CAN"T GET IN!!! I CAN"T GET IN!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163211114
Is Sombra the embodiment of 4chan?
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Thankyou Based Server Error!
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>last round of a close KOTH map
>2-2
>four enemies get DC'd
>five of my teammates get DC'd
Thanks for the loss Blizzard
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>>163211173
legitimately curious how ana is op
her jarate i mean poison bottle?
sym is op as fuck and proof that blizzard ow team knows shit about balance
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SOMBRA PLS
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>>163211094
I wonder if Overwatch follow Destiny path.
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>loot crates reset
>servers shit themselves
I should have seen this coming.
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>>163210985
That's a good choice - you can heal up, his HP pool is forgiving and you learn both how to position so you don't get focused down and spot when people are out of position so you can punish them with your hook.

Have fun anon!
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>>163211190
Literally 1 second before winning
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>>163211054
her body is literally for massaging COCKS
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>>163211270
Because she can literally outheal damage incoming from 3 separate heroes focusing fire. She is the entire reason a 5 tank blitz actually has some favor of winning.
On top of this she can shut down 90% of ults with one button press and turn another team mate into a one-hit kill machine.
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I'VE BEEN TRICKED FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME
I'M GETTING ANGRY
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>>163211409
I love this guy's art style but holy shit that torso anatomy
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>>163211185
More like Dva
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>>163211538
I have to trick my brain to stop seeing the illusion, its fine in my book
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>>163211538
>that tiny hook
>doesn't even remotely look like pathpig's hook
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>>163210654

I feel like Tank buster was a meme that was never actually true

Reaper is just a close range dps hero with the same trappings as all the other offense heroes

Without the advantage of range they have (Or Speed in tracers case)

>>163211270
>>163211424

Biotic Grenade + ana's ridiculous single target healing turns fights into complete stalls and nobody dies

Until ana gets a grenade on the enemy and shuts off their healing suddenly its a huge swing

Its as broken used defensively as it is offensively
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>When you outperform your 3 dps as Rein and they blame you for not doing your job
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MAN IM LOVING THIS SOMBRA ARG, WASNT SHE ALREADY RELEASED THO?????
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>>163211424
>shut down 90% of ults with a single button press

Reflect.
Defense Field.
Hook.
Flashbang.
Hack.
Ice Wall.
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>fighting on king's row
>currently at my season high
>run over the opponent team in first round, but then can't hold the defense either
>have a better time, we hold first point in defense
>second point we stumble a bit but rapidly capture first point
>server crash or whatever right as we're finishing wiping their team
goddam, at least it didn't count as a loss
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>>163211185
>spic
No
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>>163211409
Did Rob Liefield draw this Mercy pic?
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>tfw no mccree top 500 mains S3 that stream daily
fucking hell with this retarded meta shit, why is everyone a meta slave?
he is not even that handicapped
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>>163211409
Mercy is pure, leave her alone
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>>163211745
They are not wrong, you are a fucking tank, if people are dying because you are off chasing people with your hammer, it is partially your fault.
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>>163203010
you should've taken ana from him. ana is way too important for someone like him to have her.
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>>163211670
He has a special one for Mercy.
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>6v6 for mystery since its the only mode thats actually fun
>4 gold elims and 1200 gold damage
How can you allow yourself to be this much of a shitter? Took the enemy legit 4 minutes to break through at first.
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server error general
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Is Pharah good yet?
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>>163211940
Fuck this Mei shit dude. For once common sense has beaten my OCPD completionism. I don't give a fuck about those missing sprays. Nothing's worth this shit.
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>>163211765
>lmao symmetra isn't OP just do it perfect just negate symmetra from across the map with perfectly landed widowmaker headshots it's that easy just do it perfect just preemptively stop Ana from firing her sleeper dart just read her mind and do it perfect it's not over powered see look at these things people can avoid and do avoid far easier than a near-hitscan ultimate smasher that takes one button press but they're the same even though they're far more fragile, slower, and require a greater opportunity to use haha I love eating shit and sucking cocks

Fuck you, retard.
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>>163204753
Hanzo, Mei, Widow, Junk, torb are all good but situational. Widow should be switched with Sombra to offense, otherwise I think they're fine.

God help Bastion, and his robot warrior soul.
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>>163211883
Not sure if it was Surefore or IDDQD but one of them tends to switch to McCree if they need a DPS boost because apparently he has "more damage potential" than 76
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>>163207461
>namefag
>mains bastion
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How can I shit on Tryhard:76's?
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>>163212439
Shitmmetra
Widowshitter
Junkshit
Roadhog
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>>163207673
>anubis attack
>as dva push in and get two easy picks on shitty players
>get demeched and run around spamming, harassing and surviving against 2 more players
>eventually die
>spectating my team standing in the choke with literally 0 enemies in front of them, just strafing back and forth, not even spamming

I swear people just play on autopilot, they can't react to anything at all.
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>>163212076

No
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>>163211173
that explains why symmetra is seeing so much tournament play amirite?
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Is there a way to aim, on pc, with a keyboard rather than a mouse?

I have a strange setup and can't use a mouse right now.
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>>163212332
so pro players aren't pro enough to max damage on mccree so switch of to ezpz 76 and tanks?
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>just start playing again after not playing since the beginning of S1
>place 3100, quickly move up to 3400 playing soldier/mcree/hanzo and junkrat
>start thinking that if i actually am a GM player theres no way i can compete with these fagboys that have been playing FPS for 10+ years and i might as well just switch to tanks or something
>drop to 3000

i guess i need to stop being a pussy and just instalock DPS every game because thats clearly all i'm good at
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>>163212649
Tournament players are easily the biggest retards I've ever seen play. Bad example to use, dimwit.
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>>163211913
Well I am tanking, thats exactly my point. Im legit wondering where the fuck our dps is since they're not behind my shield
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>>163207986
>Tire has the ability to be released from control where it will continue to travel in a straight line and detonate on the first thing it impacts.

I like this because I think the loss of control of your character makes it the worst ult in the game by far. Giving you the ability to back out of your ult and regain control of junkrat would be the best buff.
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>>163198075
>Winston hasn't been touched since the start of the game

He was the meta on koh but with DVA getting buffed through the ceiling Winston is now out of business
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>>163212749
>Tournament players are easily the biggest retards I've ever seen play.
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>>163212649

She is seeing tourney play though. Still only on defense but Symmetra + torb defenses are doing great in high level play and tourney play. Just not being played as much as "le three tank" meta
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>>163210858
>>163208301
It's very shameful, and I hate hackers like you wouldn't believe, but try your best to play around them.

I watch a lot of koreans play, and they have aimbotters in almost every game. What I really like though, is that they just play around them. the tanks are especially good at dealing with an aimbotter, rein, hog, and dva can all negate their perfect aim. Outplaying cheaters who have had their aiming ability artificially inflated will surely turn you into a much better player.

It's not acceptable, but practicing in an unfair battlefield will make your game stronger. Don't forget to report all of them, even though it probably doesn't matter.
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>>163212649
She just needs to settle into the meta. Ana didn't become huge until quite a while after launch. 9/10 pro players want to play something tried and tested than gamble on something risky and unusual.
Symmetra's DPS potential is crazy, her defence potential is even crazier. At a guess over time she will replace Mei in defence line ups. While Mei's ult is incredibly good, and the wall is very useful, a near permanent HP advantage is a big big deal in team fights (particularly when teams usually have the same set ups), and her turrets definitely have their place. Tournament matches are almost always based entirely on team fights, they will have little time or opportunity to look for and destroy a shield generator, and particularly on a map like Temple of Anubis where it can be placed somewhere the enemy will have to come through your entire team to get to it, it'll be a very popular choice
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>>163212749

sym is only OP when the DPS players in your silver games can't kill her while walks directly at them and chases them down
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Daily reminder Mercy is for sexual and sexual ONLY. She has no other use.
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>was about to win before server crash
>a stupid mercy main who won't go lucio on koth "because triple tank needs mercy heals" when we have ana
Jesus Christ why can't people see the truth it isn't that hard holy shit
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>>163194306
>Actually believing the meme
Please see
>>163195830
Unless you were just b8ing him then good job
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I wonder if all Mercy mains are as cute as I imagine them to be
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>potg as Torb on L O N D O N
>it's me dying then watching my death cam
>3 assists
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Reminder that if you were waiting for a discount, now's the time to buy this horrible mess of a game.
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>>163213734
>inb4 it was the Winston that voted for hanzo
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When is she getting buffed
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>6v6 Mystery
>Defend pretty well
>Enemy team gets a lucky team comp and rush
>Cant defend for shit as we keep getting lucios and mercy as we run out of spawn dying
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>>163213464
cockheal
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>>163213835
>potg as torb
>it's me spawning and getting instakilled by a reaper hiding by our spawn for some reason
>get 5 kills with turret way off in the distance while reaper teabags my ragdoll
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>just lost a match to a Bastion/Reinhardt/Mercy combo
>WM and Hanzo refused to switch even when they werent killing jackshit
>mfw I couldnt do anything to prevent our loss because I was our only healer (Ana)

This was a high diamond... What the fuck happened?
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>>163213935
>like her design
>can only play her on mystery heroes because everyone gets mad when you pick her
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>>163212551
>Junkrat
>doing anything to Soldier:76
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I need healing!
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>>163214247
He out damages soldier 76 even after being initiated upon, just get good.
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I really like outskilling other players with my very hard to execute mouse 1 hold with random directional jumping.
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>>163214151
Did you win?
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>>163214153
that WM and hanzo are in high diamond for a reason

stop crying and carry if you don't like it

healer? ana sleeps and her ult literally determine the game

see a rein charging? sleep
see a booster genji dragon blade? sleep
see a phara carrying? kill

NO EXCUSES SIR

always stay in the mindset of "what could I, I and only me, have done better?"
if you stick with this moto and practice you will reach GM without a need to get carried like you want to right now

synergy and adapting (to both team and enemy) also counts as those solo Q skills
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>>163214421
Same. Dodging shit with the slow movement of this game is a kinda impressive
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>>163194839
lol wut? you realize this is a nerf right?
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HOW do I go about getting these?? I don't really wanna play this shitty Brawl nonstop and hope to get lucky.
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>>163214716
Ult and fire towards their spawn at the start of a match for mccree

How the fuck did you get the roadhog one though, I've done it multiple times but it never registers it as them reloading
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Will Junkrat ever be useful men?
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>>163214367
In what bracket does Junkrat do well against Soldier outside of spamming a chokepoint?

Gold? Silver?

Soldier can kill Junkrat much more reliably than Junk can kill Soldier. Junkrat's character model puts him at a disadvantage since it's rather large and wide. Plus you need to land direct hits or direct hit + proximity mine toss to kill him. Soldier is way more mobile and sprint to avoid getting bombarded by grenades, while Junkrat is practically a sitting duck if soldier gets the drop on him. Best you can do is throw prox mine out and try to get away but the trajectory is so predictable that you can get tracked mid-air and just die before you even touch the ground again.

It's a horrible match-up.
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>>163214554
Reading comprehension yo.

There was the WM and Hanzo, not denting Reinhardts shield, while the boosted Bastion shred through our Zarya and Reinhardt, even when the shield broke and I slept the Bastion, we lacked the damage to burn him because those 2 sniper shitters couldnt land a damn hit on a stationary target.

But please... Do go on and tell me more about your gold adventures and how you could have done so much better.
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>>163214716
>WHAP was the first achievement I got
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>>163214858

Replace the grenade launcher with a sticky bomb launcher.
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>>163214238
>Do well with sombra, build up her ult really fast
>"ok guys im gonna use EMP, go in on them"
>EVERYTHING IS USELESS
>team doesn't go in
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>>163215023
Same here bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usEYQ21828U
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>>163214968
why are you getting aggressive? I am not even replying directly to what happened, I am motivating you.

also I am 3405 and about to reach masters as well, and thats how I motive myself after encountering trolls and people who got carried into high diamond
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>>163214421
I really enjoy holding M1 + movement keys + spacebar.
>tfw it only works on tards
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>>163195382
Its true. My stats are mostly GM status on lucio but I'm stuck at 2300
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Just got to diamond solo queue winning 4 games in a row after my friends cost my 60 rating earlier today.

Feels so fucking good to reach it on my own without them. As a fucking Support main nontheless!
They are good guys but the most toxic pieces of shit I've ever played with.
Overwatch is also the first game I really got into playing, not just fucking around casually (Sniper-duelling AWPs with scout or M249 comes to mind.) and they are so used to me being worse than them that they keep saying that my rank is just because of luck and them carrying me.

Jokes on them, got a higher rank last and this season, hell now I'm nearly 500 rank better than the next guy!
Gods I will love to rub their faces into this.

I can look them in the eye and tell them that I'm far better than them. Fucking yes.

Just had to brag to someone about this.
Feels so fucking good.

>inb4 I bet you are just playing much more than they are!
Nope, they all have at least 10 hours more than I do!

First in my circle of friends to reach platinum last season, first (hopefully only one) to reach diamond this season, Master Season 4 here I go!
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>get gold elims and damage
>on board for damage
>silver gets on board for eliminations / killstreak
>he gets ebin upboats

this shouldn't bother me but it does
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>PTR just updated
>no patch notes anywhere
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>>163215160

It works best during overtime or the last few meters of the cart.
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>Symmetras W+M1 doesn't need full LOS to auto snap to a target
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>>163214929
>Soldier can kill Junkrat much more reliably than Junk can kill Soldier

Stop trying to justify being terrible. You're shit.
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>>163215532

Lock abilities can even go backwards.

Presumably because the camera is in front of the origin used for targeting.

It's particularly ebin with nanoboost.
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>>163214468
Of course. Their dipshit team ignored my turret for most of the entire round and only twice did I have to go and hammer it
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>Nanoboost DVA
>she self destructs right away
Jesus fucking christ you moron, you don't kill anyone with it when you're not boosted, so what made you think you'd kill someone WHEN I ANNOUNCE TO EVERYONE THAT I'VE BOOSTED SOMEONE
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>>163215895
>earthshatter
>every single team mate ignores downed opponents and it's entirely up to me to try and hammer them to death
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Today I played a game with these levels on my team.
>22, 26, 26, 23, 6, 15
against a team with
85, 24, 75, 87, 54, 73
Why is it this bad?
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>>163215532
>playing rein
>symmetras hop behind me and start ADADAD jumping around and doing a really odd indian poo witch dance
>3 m1s and she's dead

It's great, symmetra buff made my rein K/D go up and i'm getting potg almost every game thanks to the easy ult charge they provide.

Thanks symmetras, thanks for being as useless as widows except you're within hammer reach.
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>>163216063
>Blizzard matchmaking
It get worse the higher up you go in levels.
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>Roadhog has the lowest winrate of all the tanks
>Everyone keeps screaming for him to be nerfed

Stop it.
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>>163216037
>see rein earth shatter
>completely ignores healer
>goes after other tank or dps first
>this usually happens when i'm dead so I can't fucking do anything about it
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>>163216239

>Winrate

Where are you getting that stat from?
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>>163207589
You just described D.va but with DM instead of health.
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>>163215681
>ignore all points
>resort to ad homiem
Yep, you really convinced me that Junkrat counters S:76 somehow.
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>>163215895

>everyone else is dead
>need to contest
>nanoboost Mercy
>just stands there healing me
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>>163216326
Not that hard to google for it.
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>>163216367
>be shit
>get shit on
>get mad and cry

What a fucking baby.
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>>163216239
delet this
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>>163216239
>Expecting Anti-Hog players do anything but go full tilt when killed by him
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>>163205119
That's what I took away from that as well. It seems likely that 76 is their gay character, but that doesn't mean that Reaper is as well.
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>>163216462
Not him but what do you even mean
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>>163216462
>ur shit! lol!
Still not an argument.
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>>163216401
To be fair, it would take quite a long time for me to realize I've been nanoboosted if I was playing Mercy. It's just not a possible scenario in my head.
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>7m lock-on, 9 m drop off Symmetra's M1 photon projector
>Mei's 10m M1 spray
>there are people who deal with both
Wew.
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>>163216425

I mean are you referring to pub games or pro games?
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>>163207553
You're right, she is perfect.
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>>163216489
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please explain this masters gameplay
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Whats YOUR excuse for not being in top500?
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>>163217269
Because i'm trash and i always play fill every match which means i have to play support but teams don't listen to comms which results in losses which results in me not getting to Masters.
FUCK
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>>163217269
I dont own or play this game.
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>>163217269
I'm playing a lot of Let It Die.
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>>163217269
Comp is incredibly boring at GM ranking.
Same line-ups, same courses of action.
Always "hey can we get another tank?" + Ana and Lucio/Zen.
All the maps feel the same.
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>>163217029
delet this
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>>163213935
Soon, hopefully.

Then, payback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyY9KFN44oQ
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>>163217269
SoloQ and xmas vacations are coming so i'm not touching comp till january.
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>>163217269
Had to carry my shit-tier toxic friends and suffer through them laughing at the thought that maybe I'm actually far better than them even though they were gold plebs.

I only ever gained rank when I played alone at 2am and I only played 3 or 4 games max at that time. Took a while to get some points when they lose me about 60 whenever we play together nearly every evening.

t. Support Main
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>>163191084
Reminder that Widowmaker had a husband and tried to murder Tracer.
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>>163217269
I got banned from S3
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>>163217528
Is healslutting a meme?
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>>163217529
Reminder that Tracer knew Widows husband and will lead her to her redemption and will make her happy again after breaking through the brainwashing. By gently loving her.
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>tfw have so much fun playing Roadhog and Lucio I don't care how the match goes because I'm having a blast regardless
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>>163217269
What rank is top 500?
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>>163217627
From my second-hand experience?
Kinda
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>>163217720
42XX
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>>163217627
I mean... I do own a few dildos and once did play an entire game with one firmly inside me... B-But that was just a coincidence and certainly NOT a thing all healsluts do! NEVER!
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When are they going to nerf that fat piece of shit roadhog

the literal definition of a no fun allowed character
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>>163217504
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>you can run around in 3v3 eliminations even if it's 3v1 and get a draw
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>>163217798
That's kinda hot
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>snowball three meis while they're gathering snow
this is fucking stupid
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>>163217748
>>163217798
I would think that there would be too many "doms" and not enough healsluts to make it viable. Am I correct or is it the other way around?
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>>163217646
Lucio is absolutely amazing fun.
Even all these months later Wallriding is still one of the most fun things. I just LOVE the way the movement feels!
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>>163217873
Honestly if they can't kill the one even after their position is revealed they deserve it
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>>163217892
Use a flurry then snowball them all
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>>163210432
Is the logic here that if they have to complain about it, it means someone off picked and theyll lose? I mean I get youre a dumb frogposter but cmon anon.
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>>163217932
Just means that there's more work for us healsluts! And we love it!
>implying it's a bad thing when there are 4 'doms' for every 1 healslut.

>>163217889
I'm a guy.
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>It's 4 dps arguing who's going to go tank
>In the end we never get a reinhardt or winston against their widow
Fuck diamond it's full of shitters thinkign they're the best
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>>163216259
I always always smack reaper. You'd be a fool not to
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>>163218060
I was just wondering about the ratio. I've heard it both ways. Which is true?
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>>163217509
But sombra isn't bad, tracer, mccree, reaper and soldier 76 just do her job a lot better. She's just not a offense hero.
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>>163217627
>Is a meme a meme?
Healslutting is a meme, but some people take it more seriously than others because they gave up their honor and dignity.
t. Support Main and i never understood why the fuck healslutting is an actual thing
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>>163218060
w-where can I find doms?
I'm asking for a friend
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Do you have to kill all 4 enemies in a single life for the 'Cool As Ice' achievement or can I die in between?
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>>163218203
Stupid, worthless bimbo.
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>>163217932
I don't know.
It's 50/50 that Mercy players get thier dicked sucked in game one way or another.
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>>163218203
What is your level/rank?
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>it's a teammate won't switch off lucio because he can't play any other class episode
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>>163214716
>>163214793
>>163215023
well that was easy enough alright
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>>163218143

She's not an anything hero

Her most useful aspect is hacking healthpacks and honestly when you have ana + lucio everyone gets filled back to 100% instantly anyway
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>>163218256
300, Gold
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>>163217269

My accuracy is terrible unless I do 30 minutes of Anabots every day and it's boring and I could play maybe 2 actual games in that time so I don't bother.

Some days I am physiologically terrible at the game (and everything else) and I don't know why.

I don't really understand the difference between bronze and GM level gameplay aside from mechanical skill; I didn't even understand the most basic of ult usage for 6 months until watching Skyline's video on it.

I make constant terrible decisions.

I don't understand what makes one team win over the other most of the time so I don't know how to adapt when we're losing.

My internet connection is bad and I sometimes rubberband around and projectiles are difficult to use because aiming them at 40 ms and 200 ms is completely different and it can change between the two without warning.

Probably more.
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>>163215238
You honestly dont think u can make it to masters before the seasons over anon? Why even brag, you went up like what? One tier? Stupid healslut.
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>>163217998
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>>163218132
It's very rare for me to encounter another healslut.
Three of my friends regularly play overwatch with me and I'm the only healslut. Always the healslut.

They all bitch and moan if they even have to touch a healer. But they also get so... aggressive if I don't heal them good enough.
Every DPS has the potential to be a dom, but you need dedication to be a healslut!
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>>163218267

>Wont switch off lucio

?
?????
????

???


Mate
Every single team ever should have a lucio

The fuck kinda thought process is "Switch off lucio"
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>>163215238
You write all that but you'll still suck on their dicks after each match like the healslut that you're.
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>>163218513
Maybe he's bad at Lucio
Like suicidal

Of course if that's the case he's probably not any good at anything else either
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>3k sr
>games are decent, win or lose teamplay is had
>duo with friend at 2400 sr
>the difference in games is so marginal it's like i'm playing qp at release
is the difference really that huge, or is it because I'm duoing?
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>>163218203
Healslut pls stay.
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>>163217951
No. Fuck you. No. Just played against a team with tracer who wasted 40 seconds of our time running around like a piece of shit.
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>>163217269
I'm terrible at fps games I don't know how to get better. Also I can't take spergs on mics yelling at me. And no high equipment(high hz monitor, mouse, keyboard, pc) will give skill.
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>>163218456
I will certainly try, but I still have my friends who cost me some rank every day that I have to recover and for the next two weeks I won't have as much time to play by myself.

I'm happy as long as there is some progress, especially if that progress puts me further ahead of my friends. They deserve all my laughter for every single rank point I surpass them by!
Slow and steady wins the race!
Please clap...

>>163218604
Right you are!
But i can have both. I can laugh in their face because I'm better and they will KNOW that they actually cost me rank instead of 'carrying' me.
They will realise that I actually don't mind losing rank playing with them because I can just win it back and more by myself!

Ultimate humiliation after years of not bothering to even try and surpass them.
Years of them laughing whenever I joked about being better than them.

Isn't that the absolute humiliation?
You have your dedicated healslut, but deep inside you know that your healslut is actually better than you and is kind of patronising you?
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>>163217269
QP only shitter.
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>Guy has bnet tag as "MynameisKek"
>report because he is a false prophet
MEME MAGIC IS REAL, STOP TRYING TO SAY IT ISN'T
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>>163218805
>3 people couldn't buckle down and kill a single tracer even knowing where she is
>>
Mei's Snowball fight is the best thing that ever happened to overwatch
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>>163219124
After what happened today... Even the biggest non-believer has to respect the power of digits and Kek.
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>>163202991
>I was having really good performance by abusing the new Symmetra
Serves you right
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>>163218761
>both yuri lesbian shit AND 3DPD
FUCKING DELETE THIS SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT NOW
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>>163219270
It's boring and it can stall and draw really easily, because they chose mei of all characters
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>>163219026
>>163218604
PS.
Gonna be blasting this on TS all day tomorrow just to taunt my DPS-Only-Fag friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3j9xPso4I
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Is D.va meant to counter Pharah?

Because all you have to do is literfally press shieft and hold down left click and Pharah will eventually die because your boost has a lower CD than hers

Fuck this cancerous game
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>>163219474
Phara is shit, what did you expect.

How the might have fallen.
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>>163218635
if you get a Lucio like that in your match, then I have bad news for you
The bad news is you're probably just as bad
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>>163219270
kys
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>>163219551

I'm in quick play but I regularly get 3-4 gold medals

It's to the point where the ENTIRE team is crafting their comp just to counter me

D.va chasing me across the map, 76 targeting me, McCree targeting me, another Pharah to keep me busy etc. etc.

It's really annoying and takes the fun out of playing her
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>>163218507
Please kill yourself if you go mercy in comp
>>
alright, so Symmetra needs to be removed from the game
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>>163218203
pls resp. horny healslut with holes for sale.
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>random heroes
>L O N D O N
>defense
>get Torbjorn
>20 player killstreak
Heh heh, if you build it...They will die.
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>>163219653
She has her moments.

But you are right. 95% of all games I healslut as grandma or blacky.
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>>163219653
>playing route 66
>enemy team rolls us on defense because our dps suck
>we switch up the dps on attack, one of them is a bastion
>claims it will work, and asks for a mercy
>go mercy for shits n giggles
>the cart doesnt stop once, except at the checkpoints but that doesnt count
>do the same thing in the subsequent round, enemy team still unprepared
>this was in high diamond/low masters
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>>163219289

What happened today?
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>>163219662
Butthurt memes
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>>163219909
donald trump got elected
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>>163219653
fuk u
>>
New thread:
>>163220085
>>163220085
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>*laughter stops*
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Ok what happens if I already have Overwatch and want to "upgrade" to the Origins edition. I heard they just charge you the difference, is that true? right now is on sale at 40$ exactly so how the fuck does that works?
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>>163219909
>>163219976
Trump got elected, last hopes of fags all over the US were dashed when the electors did NOT commit high treason.

Russian ambassador get's murdered by turkish police man who starts screaming about Allah snackbar and shit.

Truck driven by a peaceful underaged refugee child kills 9 in Berlin and injures dozens more.

Russian politician found dead in moscow.

December 19th was a very happening rich day and it got predicted by quads Or maybe Quints, not sure anymore.
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>>163220145
They charge you 10$ for the upgrade.
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>>163210593
>>163210593
NEW THREAD

>>163210593
>>163210593
NEW THREAD
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>bait a symettra into a room
>all according to keikaku
>freeze her
>fucking DVA OUT OF NOWHERE
>RUINS HEADSHOT
>FREEZE SYM A SECOND TIME
>DVA RUINS IT
>DIE
>TEABAGGED
>reported for toxicity
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>>163193080
Don't worry, gold is easy to climb out of.

But then you'll be stuck in platinum forever.
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>>163214929
Assuming they're fighting on a flat, featureless plain then I would say Soldier will win 10/10 times because of the speed of Junk's projectiles and his wider hitbox.

I feel like that doesn't take into account well that you're almost never fighting on open ground. Positioning is important, map is important, are we on the first stretch of Watchpoint, the second point on Volskaya, or the last stretch of Hollywood? Who has to advance against the other to win? As much as pubs like to think it is, this game isn't just deathmatch. Junkrat on defense has the advantage that you have to come to him through his hail of bullshit or lose no matter how advantageous your pick is against him. There are plenty of places a Junkrat can set up that will make it hell for Soldier to advance through to get to him in the first place, and Junkrat only needs two hits or a hit + mine combo which isn't hard to execute at all since Junkrat is almost always shooting. Plus Junkrat can initiate the fight without ever seeing the Soldier by zoning areas that soldier must advance through to obtain line of sight to attack Junkrat. He can zone further with his steel trap, which people will just say "Jump it" or "Shoot it", but its presence in the fight means you have to be aware of it the entire time or else risk entering it and dying swiftly, and destroying it only gives a warning to Junkrat who gets an idea of your position (Or if the fight is in the open, shooting the mine is shots not spent shooting Junkrat). Soldier has superior mobility but can't shoot while sprinting, meaning he isn't accomplishing anything until he starts moving at a slower, easier to predict rate of speed.

I'm not calling Junkrat pro-pick meta breaker, but I also feel like it's extremely simplistic when people just say "Just shoot Junkrat he sucks" when this game isn't just everyone standing across from each other and shooting until dead.

I'm sure I'll just get t. bronze for effortposting but whatever.
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>>163220232
>>163220232

Use this thread

>>163210593
>>163210593
>>163210593
>>163210593
>>163210593
>>163210593
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>>163219410
No.
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>>163204653
stop posting
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Please all french people and other eastern europeans joining my games at 4 am
dont pick soldier and strictly shoot renishields and zarya while shes being healed by ana and learn to aim thanks
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>muted
>now must watch in silent horror as my teammates do absolutely nothing time and time again
>retarded Symmetras getting picked instead of staying back and waiting to charge their ult
>retarded Lucios ulting when NOBODY IS AROUND
>teammate after teammate getting hard countered without ever even thinking about switching
>a shitty Mercy in every fucking match who you hope can actually get a rez off before dying

I am truly in purgatory. I have no mouth and I must scream.
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>>163213849
>tfw $10 for origins skins
IS IT WORTH IT
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tfw there will never be a well made frag movie of this game because of the potg system
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