/scg/edg/ Dangerous Citizen Elite Star General #108: Merry Christmas

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>Old thread:
>>162992039
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>Other games:
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New jump point links need to be in the next op

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enjoy

>>163163598
How do we solve the dad problem?

Give it to me straight, is this game for rich people only? Is this gonna be like trying to pick up polo as a hobby?

>>163163831
You spend $60 you get everything you need for the single player campaign and the mmo.

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>>163163802
simple

we kill the dadman

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This new flight model is fucking awful.

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>>163164061
ehh It's European hour it's 5:09 in Texas

>>163164061
>Being a dirty euro

B R E X I T

>>163164121
Care to elaborate anon?

>>163164203

It you have no boost you are literally dead in the water and can't evade at all.

Boost regenerates far too slowly.

It honestly feels like this new fm just caters to whoever has the most guns and armor.

>>163164335
I thought boost was supposedly useless in the new flight model? At least that's what some of the early feedback said.

>>163163884
Don't lie to him, you have to maintain top-of-the-line status with your PC, get at minimum 2 joysticks and not cheap ones, get 4-6 monitors in an array, install a hydraulic flight training chair, buy thousands of dollars worth of ships, then have hired help to maintain you, your home and your lifestyle. The time investment in spending all your time immersed in simulating the purchases of spacecraft could also itself be considered a loss of money, really.

>>163164408
You forgot the VR headset.

>>163163306
Perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5p8YhhaVlA

>>163164408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avoFdZzmpHE

>>163164128
>European hour
are you americunts all that dumb?
>>163164132
>being american
as if anyone gives a fuck about those ugly brits
but lets keep it civilized here.

GIVE ME 3.0

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163164521
Jesus fucking christ.

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postan again, ok senpai i need help.

I have the science/hospital/hangar pods for Endeavor. Maybe park it border of safezone, use it hospital, or get the telescope ingame.

Since it will be easy to replace and sturdy as fuck, Im planning to fuck around with the Terrapin at the beginning, maybe carry it inside Endeavor along with a HullA.

Question is; Should I keep the Banu Jewman, or ccu it into a Carrack or Crucible after its price hike? or just sell it for monies?

>pic related

>>163163306
>no jump point pasebin
why did you even ask?
>Jump Point magazines: http://pastebin.com/Cd9wQ9YB

>>163164535
Not an American, but your jealousy of them is delicious

Weeb makes some fancy racing maneuvers in 2.6

https://youtu.be/S2_BZMznar4

>>163164745
check the third post

>>163164797
oh, didn't realize they were in the mega now

>>163164335
Sounds like you failed the pilot skill check there, familio

Anything else? Or are you calling the entire flight model "fucking awful" because the boost regen value is too low?

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>>163164768
try harder m8

>>163164797
jesus christ
>people say this new flightmodel is bad for racing
I think it is they who are bad. is that an mfiddy or a 350r?

>>163164743
I'd wait until you can see how big the price increase actually is, then make a decision accordingly.

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MAKE ALL SHIPS LARGER

DESIGN ME 37 NEW DEDICATED FIGHTERS AND 14 NEW BOMBERS

SELL THEM AS DIGITAL IDEAS BUT DONT INCLUDE THEM IN THE GAME BEFORE WE REWORK ALL SHIPS THAT ARE ALREADY READY*

REWORK THE CONSTELLATION AT LEAST 17 MORE TIMES

WE WILL BREAK ALL LIMITS INCLUDING OUR DEADLINES

PUT YOUR FAITH IN ME

*except the 300 series lol

>>163164837

t. CIG forum shitter

>>163164960
>inb4 jewman price hike crashes the prices for all ships

If they hike its price below 350$ all sub 350$ will get price flood. If they make it above 350$ due to alyum race, again people will destroy the prices of higher ships due to 0$ ccus already stocked as fuck,because of dads dream ofminvesting on free monies.

fuck u cig

fucking jews gonna do it again.

>>163165281
What if they make it exactly $350?

>>163164521
So he has taken the time/money to get that massive setup and he's only using 1 dinky screen, come on...

>>163165367
it will literally crash the price for carrack, endeavor, crucible.

sooooo many people already stocked on 0$ redeemer to jewman ccus its not even funny.

>>163164521
>all that money spent
>shit at game
Yeah, I'd be wearing a mask in public too out of shame

are there any star citizen videos coming out in 2016?
Talking about atvs, loremaker etc.

>>163165548
>"crashing" a fixed price of a ship jpeg like its godamn stock or an investment portfolio

Imagine being this delusional

>>163165548
>>163165281
I don't follow your wallstreet jewry, you're saying ship speculators are going to get burned by an inevitable decision cig has to make, but cig are to blame? sounds to me like the eternal international citizens gambling and losing, fuck em.

>>163165763
there are faggots on reddit who think exactly this

>>163165192
>One value is too low
>This means the entire flight model is terrible
lol

testing is not for you. I would forget about SC until its nice and safe to play.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15639-DRAKE-Caterpillar

>>163165923
Don't be too quick to judge, aparently there's faggots on here who think the same thing.

so, you all ready for a new shitshow?

>Esperia Glaive will be available for sale
>Caterpiller pirate version will be on sale

on 26th

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>>163166668
>the Caterpillar is a freighter that doesn’t skimp on weaponry

>>163166725
Fuck, they really are running out of money, aren't they.

>>163166725
>pirate version
these fucking kikes are gonna make me pay more to actually get what I was sold the first time aren't they

>>163166725
>>163166816

everything is getting a pirate version!

>>163165416
>>163165589
Doesn't look to me like he spent too terribly much money. The only expensive bits look like the hotas and chair.

The rest could be built with some cheap wood and spraypaint. The Wire tubing is cheap as fuck, the monitor/headphones/PC are kind of a given.

>>163164335
No, really, you might just be bad. Maybe try not using afterburners so damn much.

>>163167116
>The only expensive bits look like the hotas and chair.

Anon, thats the best part of all.

Its a piece of shit Saitek X-52. Its a garbage stick. Imagine paying out the ass for a sim pit but then not spending any money on your main input peripheral.

>>163165763
There are people who use these speculative price increases to trade ships for money.

>Stock 50+ $0 Redeemer to Merchantman CCUs.
>wait for price increase to $350
>Buy 50 Redeemers at $250
>CCU to Merchantman
>CCU to Carrack/Crucible/Phoenix
>Sell Carracks for $300
>Profit $50*50

Or
>Price increases to $360
>Do nothing.

Or maybe
>Redeemer raises in price to $350 also
>Do nothing, and regret not buying redeemers before price increase.

>>163166725
source on this?

>>163167269
>paying out the ass for a sim pit

Seriously? There's maybe $50 in lumber there, and that's a high estimate. Throw in $10 for paint.

Wait, you're not one of those poor fags who thinks $15 for S42 is too expensive, are you?

>>163167196
Regular SCM with no AB or boost now drains fuel.

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this thing is a goddamned labyrinth. am I right in seeing a lower level access door for for the command module? is that sill in?

>>163164743
hell A cant fit into the endeavor hanger I think it can only house 2 gladiator size ships or smaller per hanger atm they haven't said or mentioned any larger ships to fit. The terrapin would be in the same boat fitting on the external pad but not the hanger, but rather or not you can carry ships on the external pad isnt known.


but I would just hold onto everything atm

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>>163166725
>>163166838
It's a pirate skin.
It will be time limited.
You will need to beat pirate swarm to gain the ability to buy it.

The Glaive will be limited to 1,500, and you will also need to beat vanduul swarm again in order to buy it.

>>163167698
holiday livestream (pic related)

>>163167891
It also does that in 2.5, but the rate is so low that the regeneration offsets it. It's not intentional and will be fixed.

>>163167950
It's really not that bad once you know where everything is. Less hallways than the Starfarer at least. There's only one access to the command pod on the top level.

>>163168027
You're underestimating the size of the Endeavor.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14982-MISC-Endeavor-Q-A-Part-1
>The Landing Bay is currently spec’d to be 30m wide, 65m deep running underneath the main spine of the Endeavor, and 10m tall.

You guys think we will get buyback tokens a bit earlier this year?

>>163168274
Why would we?

>>163168115
10m tall isnt much considering thats still only and empty hull a without any cargo scaffolding

>>163168027
its supposedly can hold 2 old cutlasses..or can have 1cutlass and around 5k cargo..

sick desu

>>163168329
tis christmas senpai

>>163168438
and?
There's the boxing sale, no need for them to give out buback tokens.

>>163168495
they will give it ou on jan 1st, I was asking that maybe they can give it 1week early, due to holiday etc.

u fuckin grinch

>>163168741
fuck off cunt, I hope someone burns down your house this Christimas

>>163167710
I meant out of everything, anon.

Not just a piece of wood with a hinge.

>>163169229
And I'm saying, you're overestimating the price of putting together a sim pit.

If you're including the price of the basic things you'd have to have just to play the game, that's silly.

>>163164521
Mom, get out of my room. I'm playing my games!

>>163164926
Literally says 350r in the video.

do any ships currently have the changing lockers that were in the citizencon demo? I want to by comfy in my ship in 2.6

>>163170721
The lockers are there and will open, but you cant change outfits at it yet. Look for that once environments become a thing and ships are actually pressurized.

>>163165719
>are there any star citizen videos coming out in 2016?
>Talking about atvs, loremaker etc.

yes/no?

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>get to this in jpoint mag
>it's not about a career path

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https://youtu.be/OCFMX5z-ed4

An anon in the previous thread asked about info on gettin gud. Not only is this retro gaming gold, it will make you better at any dogfighting combat game.

SC doesn't have energy like airplanes, but the terms and ideas in this video are sound. You will be a better fighter having watched this.

Skip the parts with the old buddy and just watch Mr. Chesthair. Skipping the old buddy and playing at 125% takes a little over 20 minutes.

>>163165719
>>163171128
...hundreds? if you mean in the future but before 2017, probably not.

>>163171213
thats what I meant
thx

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New patch improved performance a bit. Had one match where there was barely any framedrops and gameplay really improved with that.

>>163172124
It pisses me off that grenades can be quick thrown and aren't actual weapons you have to equip

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>>163172124
this shit is fucking tight yo. if they get it stable and have a good variety of maps star marine alone could draw in a ton of new backers.

hey question for you ptufam, can you still use freelook in eva like this and separate aim from body alignment?

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>>163172387
Grenades are really wonky, in that webm I tried to throw the grenade over the crate but somehow my character had a very weak arm and the grenade bounced off it.

The main issue I have with this patch is being shot at with energy rifles. If someone shoots at you with one you're dead not because he has good aim but because the game essentially freezes. At least for me, that is.

>>163172504
>entire team standing in a single grenade radius
>guy runs into them instead

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>>163172412
Yea, that works.
>>163172676
That's an energy field the team was looking at that only the enemy team can pass through. No bullets or grenades can penetrate it.

>>163171203
Couldn't be less applicable if you tried.

>>163172958
Just because you don't understand being inside or outside someone's turning circle, defensive thinking like leaving a fight you don't have an advantage in, aspect angle (heat seekers only lock on from the rear), using the glare in AC maps to hide your position, attacking from your opponents rear, or anything else related to this doesn't mean you need to let everyone else on the board know how little you know.

>>163173306
>Just because you don't understand being inside or outside someone's turning circle

I PvP in DCS all the time, actually.

None of that is applicable.
>aspect angle in SC
Fuck off autist

Legacy Instructional Series might not be from a professional but at least it isn't 90% fluff that is only applicable to in-atmosphere fighting.

>>163173306
>Anon wants to learn how to git gud
>better dump all this useless info on him, and things that are literally irrelevant or absent completely
>at least he'll be able to fly an F/A-18 good when someone destroys him because lolstrafe

>>163173403
>>163173474
>Thinks I posted a video because jets are somehow in SC.
>Too fucking ADD to even pay attention to parts that could help them.
>Doesn't have anything constructive to add so straw mans the entire video because they are too slow to keep up, and not smart enough to see the video in it's proper context here.

It's ok guys. Once you have something to contribute there will be plenty of anons to shit on you too.

>>163173873
>Thinks I posted a video because jets are somehow in SC.

I think you posted it because you're autistic, or pretending SC is serious business. I don't know.

Still doesn't make it a useful guide for SC. Tactics, weapons application, and even basic flight is ENTIRELY different.

There is already a guide series far better for this kind of thing. Not that shit.

>>163172857
fucking A, been asking about that since evocati. fancy armor I've never seen. so you can 3pv in star marine

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>>163152628
Hory sheet there was an anon in the last thread who actually knew about dogfighting in Star Citizen and wasn't just "lel jousting xD".

I can't believe I lived to see this day.

>>163173873
>>163173873

The video teaches nothing relevant for nonatmospheric space flight you cum guzzling dipshit

But at least you know how to pop flares when people rightfully call you a retard

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>>163173474

>>163174041
http://imgur.com/a/tF54h
Yeah, that was me. I put the charts together yesterday and analyzed the stats for each of the ships, but fuck me if I try to contribute anything else.

I have no idea how he's pulling that shit off because in my tests the boost key literally does nothing except burn fuel in the M50 or 350r.

>>163175234
Meant for
>>163164926

>>163174129
>The video teaches nothing relevant for nonatmospheric space flight you cum guzzling dipshit
It teaches a little bit for Elite since it's planes in space.

>>163175234
is there a new button combo required to boost? someone mentioned the controls changed again but the menu control layout didn't.

>>163175603
X

>>163175360
nobody cared last thread either

>>163176856
Your image and your idea convey pretty strong cognitive dissonance my friend

Wait, so 2.6 SM doesn't have any of those gadgets they said they were delaying release for?

The deployable shield? Decoy?

>>163177671
Those are scheduled for later patches along with the cover system.

>>163177794
Wow, so they delayed SM all this time (often citing polish) and its still only a basic as bitch build without major mechanics?

Jesus CIG, pull your shit together.

>>163175038
Your shit was really on point. I'll have to check out those graphs. It was just uncanny someone writing about dogfighting in SC in a way that actually read like they had played the game and had any idea what they were talking about.

It's noway near as bad as it was before the merger, but almost everyone here who posts about the flight model has probably touched Arena Commander once or twice in their lives.

I fucking suck at SC at the moment, but hopefully with this new flight model refactor I can learn my way back into the leaderboards.

How is pirate swarm?

>>163177875
nobody ever claimed it was delayed for that shit retard, everyone knows it was because they had to scrap entirely the illfonic build and start again. they'll be adding new gadgets, guns and modes in later patches, none of this is new information.

>Game crashes whenever I try to start up hangar
wew

>>163178502
What was wrong with the illfonic stuff anyways?

>>163178502
They put out several different SM posts about the new animations for that deployable cover shit and other small items, citing that as the reason they wanted to release something more complete.

>>163179410
nobody knows. popular theory is it was built to the wrong scale and thus could not be integrated into the rest of the game

>>163178267
Leaderboards are a total crapshoot my friend.

There are multiple orgs that fly in flights (this is good, team play being effective is great) but they abuse the hell out of anything that is the meta right now, the more broken the better.

>>163175038
Would you suggest treating the Avenger the same as the 300 series? It seems to share most stats with a 325, with just a few variations.

Those charts are awesome. What exactly is "Maximum Angular Acceleration" though? Just how fast it can start turning on that axis?

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>>163179410
I liked it, but basically the code bases diverged way too far to merge again. I don't know why they can't use the assets at least, gold horizon had me hyped.

>>163176856
>no pay to win
>have to pay to play

>>163179687
Max angle accel means the highest speed you can turn the nose at.

Avenger can strafe either way, they don't appear to biased like the other ships. Also, Avengers can run down any single seat except racers

>>163178267
Jousting is still a thing because it's a noob maneuver. Just slow down a little and let them draw figure 8s at full speed in front of you.

>>163163306
>shitty space folk edition

FTFY

>>163179687
I misspoke. angle accel is how quickly you get to max directional thrust.

>>163180727
I think I'm going to love the shit out of my Avengers. A little disappointing that the Warlock is going to be slightly slower than the Titan.

>>163181968
They did mention that weight affects speed several times in the past (but the system calculating that dynamically was removed after a single patch because it was broken as fuck). Might be safe to assume that a fully loaded Titan will drop to those speeds as well.

>>163179848
Maybe one day we'll be able to explain this silly ringed station

>>163182532
>Explain

Explore. My fingers don't know what they're doing.

>>163182532
the lore at the time was they are prefab and scattered across human, space. one was in the freelancer commercial, and I think was even in the gamescom show, so maybe.

ive somehow never seen this game before today, but the starter ship package is on sale for $35
is this a game you can just get into with time or do i need research and dedicated shit to enjoy it?

>>163183535
depends how into it you want to get. there is no tutorial right now, but you can figure most of it out by wandering around and clicking shit in game.

>>163183535
There's no game yet, mate.

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Pulled this from the forums today.

Is it really this bad?

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Visible MFDs, though I don't know how bad the Gladius used to be. Looks like we can expect to see this for the rest of the ships where you can't see jack shit

>>163183775
http://1.webseed.robertsspaceindustries.com/Installers/Star_Citizen_Launcher_Setup.exe

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>>163183535
It's alpha, and might not even come out at all. You're not buying the game, you're throwing money away with the added bonus that you might get a game at some point in the future. Do not spend more money than you can afford to throw away with this risk in mind.
The discount doesn't come with the option to get the single player campaign which is apparently supposed to come out sooner.
If you do want the single player campaign, the $60 starter pack of SC and S42 is better "value".
There's not that much content in the game already, still very much alpha. Check the feature list:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/feature-list
Also the live version is literally broken right now and won't be fixed until the next patch comes out, which is planned for the 22nd:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report
DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS YOU CAN ON HOW THIS SHIT WORKS BEFORE BUYING THE GAME AND TAKE EVERYTHING WITH A BUCKET OF SALT

>>163183909
>felt so sharp like a hattori hanzo sword cutting thru silk

>>163184119
That's not a game, there's parts of a game but that's it.

>>163183986
actually looks like a cockpit now

>>163183909
I think we're seeing some over-balancing going on, to the point where all ships have very little feel.

>>163183759
>>163183775
>>163184137
thanks for the info guys
and yeah, that discount seemed weird, and pretty scammy
so ill do some research before i make a desicion, itll be a week before i can buy it anyways

>>163183909
based on >>163152628 he's just a shitter who can't tell the difference

>>163184203
video game is an electronic game that involves human interaction with a user interface to generate visual feedback on a video device such as a TV screen or computer monitor.

>>163184603
Fuck off, so far it's a well done demo of concepts and tech but little else.

>>163184807
Pessimism is a state of mind in which one anticipates undesirable outcomes or believes that the evil or hardships in life outweigh the good or luxuries.

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>>163184456
The discounts won't be around forever, but saving $10 on something you end up hating after a hasty decision is way worse than paying $10 more for something you think you'll like after you think about it for a while. I think they'll be available until boxing day or something. Not sure.
You don't need a joystick to enjoy it either if that's what you're asking, it's relatively accessible, but you just need to spend some time learning what the keybinds all do, or the important ones anyway.
You can ALWAYS WAIT FOR RELEASE.
It'll be more expensive but you'll know exactly what you're getting.

Bonus, have an image of the official background art for the new FPS game mode next to a master chief figurine.

>>163184874
Intellectual disability, also known as general learning disability, and mental retardation, is a generalized neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significantly impaired intellectual and adaptive functioning.

I'm very optimistic in regards to Star Citizen becoming a great game but I'm realistic about what it is at this time.

>>163180727
>Avengers can run down any single seat except racers

Just not the Gladius, Mustang or Sabre. Its slower than all three

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>>163185125
Time will tell and we will watch with interest how they put their action with their words.

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Is there anyone actually playing Elite. Like a single person in this thread? How can a game be such a trainwreck and yet still continue to exist? Where did it all go wrong? How is it even possible to lose to a game that doesn't exist? Is this thing seriously going to limp along for 10 years without the devs putting it out of it's misery?

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Good to know this shit still happens

>>163185892
u OK commando?

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This is a scope I haven't seen before.

>>16318589>still
never had that happen

>>163185873
E:D fags on actual suicide watch
>1:800:273:8255
call this if you can't stop yourself pal

>>163183909
SC is becoming slowly but steady a casual boring shit "game"

>>163186046
>>163185892
>I play enough to get into PTU just so I can post early bugs and act surprised by them
you're that faggot who makes the videos, aren't you. I'm reporting them when you post them in the future and I suggest others do likewise.

>>163186312
Someone needs to tell CR and his opinions to fuck off before he ruins everything

>>163186457
What videos? And why would you report videos that are from the game this general is about?

>>163185391

Not in 2.6 it isn't.

It has better burn speed than all 3.

>>163186457
I made
>>163172857
>>163172504
>>163172124
If that's what you mean.
And no, I barely play at all, I just bought a 1 month subscription pass to get into this ptu.

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It feels like ED and SC are extremes on two different sides.

ED released too early with too few features and SC get's packed with too many features to make it able to be released within a justifiable time.

>>163185391
The charts I made were on j patch, so cruise speeds may be old info. I'm not making another set of charts until the balance passes are done and I can spend the time to apply the smoothing and correction factors.

>>163186938
My thoughts exactly. ED is a mile wide and an inch deep, SC is a mile deep and an inch wide.
It's unbelievably frustrating.

>>163185873
I quit playing as soon as 2.2 was released. It was literally fucking nothing.

That's actually the day I backed Star Citizen, too. Fucking stupid that most of the stuff in ED I can already do in SC, but in a better way.

And I don't fucking understand FDev. Planet Coaster is probably the best coaster game to come out in a long fucking time, and is awesome. Why the fuck is ED such a goddamn trainwreck?

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>>163188363
>>163188367

3.0 will be the first iteration of of a "released" Star Citizen it seems, then 4.X patches will just add features like mining, science, more planets etc...

The best thing to do is to go into hibernation from anything about SC and wait til 3.0 is released and see how SQ42, Star Marine, AC and Trading ends up being.

Then we can have some fun while waiting on the 4.X patches.

>>163185124
>Bonus, have an image of the official background art for the new FPS game mode next to a master chief figurine.
I like the little nods they give in AC and SM. It's a nice touch.

In case you didn't notice, the company that makes Star Marine is "InterDimensional". The I and D both stylized like the id software logo.

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>>163185124
>>163189351
yeah, the Star Marine logo is a pretty obvious homage to iconic FPS past, it's obviously meant to invoke the classic Doom cover as well.

>>163185124
>all these comparisons of little armor pieces
>no comparison of the gun that is literally just a halo Assault Rifle

>>163186046
that missing helmet visor does not look healthy

>>163189654
There's a difference between a homage and literally painting over/picture mashing

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>>163189351
>>163189654
It's literally a paint-over of a figurine being used as official art.

>>163189731
I left that out as it was far too obvious not to miss.

Anyway
Have a free trial of star marine and a free flyable sabre:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/welcome-to-sc
code: WELCOME2SC

From IGN article here: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/19/star-citizen-fps-module-star-marine-gets-new-trailer-details-a-ign-first

>Also, if you'd like to check out Star Marine, Cloud Imperium has kindly provided a code for IGN readers that gets you a free trial! Go here to register an account, insert the code (WELCOME2SC), then wait for an email them to let you know when the Free Fly begins. It’ll be a 48-hour free fly and you'll be provided with a Sabre to fly during that time. And of course you'll also be able to check out all the new Star Marine content detailed here and in the trailer.

Link to trailer: http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/12/19/star-marine-gameplay-trailer-star-citizen-fps-module

>>163189969
I hope you aren't implying they actually used that master chief picture, the poses aren't really that similar. different angles all over the place.

>>163168064
I don't believe that's Ben.
His head is way too small.

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>>163190142
>if you'd like to check out Star Marine, Cloud Imperium has kindly provided a code for IGN readers that gets you a free trial!
>Star Marine isn't even publicly released yet
what the fuck are they doing?

>>163186748
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11B81QpGLgc2GeFsfLnVQLxGrqIfhKDKW1BiZ44E2HV8/edit#gid=1733128333

So this is wrong, then? The XMLs ripped directly from the game?

>>163190392
The articles doesn't say when the free fly begins, only to watch your email for it. He sure as hell isn't going to set a free fly on the PTU.

>>163190172
I was the guy that posted the original comparison, but not the post you're directly responding to here. No, I'm implying they took a different picture of the same MC figure and painted over that instead, to make it look more like the doom cover art as mentioned above.

>>163190392
They're probably going to get as much shit fixed as possible before the 22nd, drop 2.6[j+] to live and use the free fly as a stress-test.

>>163190840
That's a newer data set from the most recent patch. Charts yesterday were from the previous balance. Freelancer, Gladiator, and something else lost speed too.

>>163191097
>That's a newer data set from the most recent patch

Right, so okay. For now then, the Avenger is speedy but outpaced by quite a few ships.

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>>163190840

>Avenger Titan: 825
>Sabre: 825
>Gladius: 800

what did they mean by this

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that SM trailer is pretty tight

looks like they actually bullshotted something for once, namely vid related.

>>163191448
Yes, that last scene was a bullshot. The burst rifle shown isn't available in-game, although it does have a listing in the stats that malogos pulled out.

>>163191524
the rifle itself is an asset we've seen before, not sure if it's actually in game but that down the barrel I doubt could be in game even with their obscene attention to detail.

>>163191762
I have no idea what you're trying to say but the guns do have riflings.

>>163191231

Gladius fags eternally btfo

How will they ever recover?

>>163192023
and can you see bullets spinning as they come down them?

>>163192162
I haven't tried that actually but that would just be silly.

>>163191231
the Sabre is just an icon of CIG's greed.

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>uhh, RACIST and SEXIST much?

>>163191448
I fucking HATE CIGs marketing.

The game has barely any substance and they market it this shit like it's a AAA game.

I wish the entire marketing team would get the boot and Sandi legally restricted from touching the project.

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glad to be reassured with some good ragdolling in space after the goofiness of the livestream

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>CIG is already adding in plenty of little easter eggs to find in the asteroid belts
>Because the game isn't a zillion different star systems, they can do this relatively quickly with players discovering it within a nice time frame
>Not to mention you don't need to wait until someone is getting near an area to finally have it in the game
>Mfw SC will potentially have aliens before ED

>>163192593
WTF that looks cool

>>163191762
It's not in-game yet. Well, it's not functional. It might be stuck on a wall in a Cubby Blast somewhere.

>>163193192
Aren't the Tev and Vanduul basically done? Aren't they the antagonists of S42 and SC?

>>163192593
I'm still not fond of the 'standing in air' look. It seems so awkward. I feel like in any kind of controlled jump into zero G (ie wherever the character leaves the ground of his own accord OR whenever there is any surface within reach after leaving ground), they should be able to self-right into an actual flying position without all that exposed surface area. If you get bumped off the ground by something not of your doing, only then should you be seen floating by at standing position.

>>163193452
the tev are just space kangz, they'll chimp out in the PU now and then but they're not really antagonistic. the banu are probably worse over all

>>163193621
this is why I kept asking about freelook. with some thinking outside the box, a superman flight style will be possible and confer an advantage with it's smaller profile

>>163192593
Can blood and gore be toggle off ? Can't let my kiddos play that, they'll be really disappointing since last four christmas in a row they were getting sc ships as gifts.

>>163194363

1/10 fwiendo

Here's a (you)

>>163194363
>No use of "my wife's sons/daughters"
Apply yourself, senpai.

>>163194363
I know this is bait, but damn some people's sensitivity to violence is obnoxious.

Like, fuck, I just bought my 11 year old nephew Doom 2016 for Christmas. 'Cause it's a fuckin' incredible game, and want normal kid doesn't absolutely love that kind of shit?

>>163190142

>"Obviously we don't want you get up in your spaceship in the mini-PU and somebody just shoots you once and Pow!, you're dead. You're like, 'Ooh, okay. That wasn't that much fun,'" Roberts said. "That is one of the big challenges with Star Citizen, is that there are so many different aspects of it, whether it's the on-ground FPS, or flying ships, or wandering around talking and interacting with people."

Low TTK-fags on suicide watch.

>>163191165
By dedicated racers. I'm ok with that.

>>163194736
That doesn't mean TTK will be high. It just means a single stray shot isn't going to kill you, which is perfectly reasonable.

>>163194816
The sabre, all mustang variants other than the delta and Gladius are racers?

news to me, anon!

>>163194831

It means that Chris is happy where it is now which people are bitching about. And this is medium armour. God forbid we get into the heavy.

>>163194736
>>163194831

It's a balance between everyone running around being bulletsponges (ruins "tactical" gameplay) and people straight-up dying too easily.

You can still OHK in SM with the energy sniper and shotgun.

The difference between dying from one shot to the head from one of these weapons and dying from a 3-shot burst to the head from a gun like the P4AR is negligible.

>>163195080
>Titan: 825
>Sabre: 825
>Gladius: 800
Some of the Mustang variants have a higher speed, not all.
Are you on crack?

>>163195289
>It's a balance between everyone running around being bulletsponges (ruins "tactical" gameplay)
Shame that that's exactly what the game is like right now.

Rifles have way too much divergence from what I've played for headshots to be viable, so your only real option is to aim for the chest, and people certainly are bullet sponges in that respect.

>>163195456
Titan only, and without cargo, is faster in boost.

>>163195181
I'm okay with heavy armor giving a large amount of survivability. Medium armor feels way too tanky right now imo.

>>163193642
I want to play as the Tev. All those parrot and pirate jokes, just waiting to be unleashed.

I'll have to work on the Turtle jokes

>>163167950
day 47

still lost in my javelin
running out of food, drawing faces on the walls to keep me sane. not sure how much oxygen is left but i'd wager i'll starve long before this is an issue. this is admiral daddy-o, last surviving member of the USS StarDad, signing off

PS: jimmy gets the javelin when I die i know you and kyle are gonna fight over it but i'm saying right now it belongs to jimmy

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>>163196506
>Day 47

>>163195498
>headshots aren't viable

t. shitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYJV0duA00Y

>>163196817
>10 Km long bridge
wow

>>163195498
the laser rifle literally shoots a beam of full auto headshots for the entire battery

>>163196917
>not even using ironsights
>spraying bullets fullauto at enemies facing the other direction
>I'm the shitter

>>163197030
Maybe that's it, then. I haven't been able to try the laser rifle because the game refuses to save my loadout.

>>163196917
>display full of grenades you can't access
>sticky note with "no" written on it
lol

>>163197292
>the game refuses to save my loadout.
You need to save your loadout using the new menu.

>>163196917
do you choose different loadouts yet, or is everyone the same?

>>163196817
Instead of "x room" it should be called "x city" at that size.

>>163196917
this audio is incredibly annoying.

>>163198340
You have the options of light or medium armor, as well as a ballistic or energy pistol, and either a ballistic rifle, energy rifle, energy shotgun, or energy sniper rifle.

I don't think you can get any grenades other than the basic frag grenade right now.

>>163198546
can you start with the sniper and shotgun? I thought they were map pickups.

>>163198681
You can start with any number of weapons but you can exchange weapons lying around in the spawning area.

>>163198752
>number
any type of weapon I mean

>>163198937
>>163198752
that's silly, there should be some limitations to starting loadout at least, with power weapons being placed on the map as sub-objectives

>>163199060
The shotgun is hardly a power weapon. It's pretty easy to turn people using them into pin cushions.

>>163199060
What power weapons?
Shotguns do jackshit against anything that isn't right in front of you and the sniper's rof is too low to matter anywhere besides ambushes.

>>163195524
And you're point? That Sabre isn't exactly going to be hauling any cargo either. In fact, it can't.

It's actually a pretty good dilemma to have. Maybe even give the Titan 5m/s faster speed unloaded so you have to consider dropping your cargo to escape a bad situation.

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>Titan: 825
>Sabre: 825
>Gladius: 800

>>>>>>>>>>>Gladius

>>163197292
>not even using ironsights
For like the first 2 close range engagements, yes
>spraying bullets fullauto at enemies facing the other direction
I think you mean
>properly controlling full-auto recoil and not giving away position
>I'm the shitter
Well at least you got that one right, well done.

>>163199226
Wouldn't a shotgun in space be even more deadly? Why's it sound so useless?

>>163203574
Because in the future a shotgun spreads like a lesbian in heat.

>>163203574

something something energy shotgun dissipation something

video games

>>163203574
from the footage we've seen the spread is absolutely retarded, also I rented one in 2.5 and the fucker doesn't even shoot straight, I've seen it was the case in their internal 2.6 vids as well, the line of fire doesn't quite line up with the gun, that might still be the case but not sure.

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>7000ly from home
>carrying some shitty supplies for some stupid mission to build some gay space station in some awful system
>15000ly left to go
>damage to cargo hatch randomly vents all of the supplies into warp

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>>163204129

>>163203574
It has very high damage drop-off; 3x that of the P4AR. You need to hit the head with a minimum of 2 pellets from short range and they spread very rapidly.

Note that it's an energy-shotgun, and has little armour penetration.

>>163204129
I'm afraid I am going to have to ask you to stop. Fun is not part of The Vision™ directive.

>>163204129
>15k LY away mission

That's fucking insulting.

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Messer Empire when?

>>163211118
>cat posters in messer's glorious empire

I don't think so

Guys....?
"To celebrate the imminent launch of Star Citizen Alpha 2.6"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/welcome-to-sc

>>163212058
do u even ctrl+f?
>>163190142

new build soon™
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5j9znl/new_ptu_build_in_a_few_hours/

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>>163212058
>Backer since 2012
>Have to use a code intended for IGN users to play the game I paid for

>>163212501
No, the code is for people who are not already backers, to get in on the free-flight. Backers play as normal when it goes to Live.

>>163212501
What game?

>>163211330

>cat

You done goofed.

>>163212832
like we'd let catpeople into the empire
we don't even let birds in

>>163213253

But Momiji is a wolf girl who goes awoo. She is not a filthy cat. Wolf girls are loyal.

>>163213253
The birdpeople are exclusively part of the empire. The empire assimilated them forcibly

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>>163214265
>>163214584
bird people, wolf people, cat people
tomato, tomado, pieces of shit

living on a reservation and getting drunk all day while talking about muh honor is not the same as being a citizen in messer's glorious empire

>>163215040

Even in the glorious Imperium of Man demi-humans like Momiji would be welcomed. Since they are demihuman and just have weird ears and a fluffy tail. The Tevarin bird people are clearly xenos and need to be purged.

On a scale of 0-10, how confident are you that this game will be worth the money you spent on it?

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>>163215402

>40k

>>163215402
only if they had qualities that benefit the imperium
most likely they'd be branded mutants and purged

>>163215040
I like the inquisitive look from the deer on the bottom right. It's like you could feed him some corn or some and he would probably be cool with that. The one above him is kinda sketchy looking, I don't know if I trust him or not.

Does anyone know where to get the latest patch notes or the change list like what was posted yesterday?

2.6.0k dropped

Be advised that, in order to receive new lobby invites, you will need to restart the client after every match.
Star Marine Leaderboards are not in-game this build.
Our planned Electronic Access improvements for sequential map loading (“mega map”) are not in this build.
Scan is not complete, please refrain from using it (“Tab” key on default keybindings).
Missile rebalance is ongoing.
Flight Balance Changes to include Acceleration, Afterburner, Boost, Fuel Rates, and Jerk are ongoing.
Workaround for Front End UI Issues: Either use the old UI (ui_frontend.startup_mode = 0) OR on the main menu hit the “Escape” key and then “Go To Hangar”. Once loaded into the Hangar, you can use the Elevator to connect to Crusader or ArcCorp

Updates

Missiles have received some additional tweaks, so they should now inherit velocity.

Some additional tweaks to the flight model have been made.
We have tweaked the acceleration rates/peaks to be more like previous releases, whilst maintaining the lower 2.6.0 SCM values.
Using strafe during normal flight, you should only get a change in velocity of +/- SCM max velocity, rather than +/- Afterburner max velocity.
Your strafe velocity range is no longer higher when using afterburner.
If you are flying over SCM max speed and switch into decoupled mode, strafe will allow you to decelerate, but not accelerate.
Fixed a number of issues with the new frontend UI.
These include a number of lobby crashes and numerous graphical issues.
Fixed a number of client and server crashes in Star Marine, Crusader and Arena Commander.

>>163215678
Bout tree fiddy.

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>>163216846
>whilst maintaining the lower 2.6.0 SCM values.

Like a nipple on a babby's bottle.

>>163215678
Pretty confident, since I only dropped $40 on it.

>>163217135
>2016
>not babby.jpg

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>>163216076

Nah. They have cat people who are semi-furry on the furry scale that have no use. Momiji would be fine.

>>163215402
>>163216076
Accepted abhumans are ones that possess useful qualities and breed true with their own kind, and even then they are second class citizens at best or slaves at worst. A random wolfgirl may simply be considered Chaos-touched or genetically weak.

>Beastman bad. Bad Beastman. Dirty. Emperor no like. Beastman love Emperor. Give blood to Emperor. Give heads to Emperor. Say sorry.

Looks like invites just got sent out again. Just received one myself.

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>>163217420
>>163217478
>>163216076
>>163215402
>Not thinking Kilrathi are the shit
>Imperium of Man shitposting in 2016
Did I enter a fucking time warp? What is this goddamn fucking shit?

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>>163217420
I thought your scale was a little off, so I made it more realistic.

>>163217731
Kilrathi are Kzin expies, which take the most asshole qualities of felines and attach them a society of warmongers. The only vaguely sexual rendition was the short story about an human and a sapient female kzin being trapped in a ancient alien zoo. They only cuddled, and it wasn't consentual for the human.

>>163217831
#1 is GOAT and you know it

>>163218047
#1 is a little girl with a cat-ears hairband and a fox buttplug.

>>163217831
#1 is fine, #2 is fine in a sexy but not sexualized way as the last stage of furry where a character can ever be taken seriously in any fictional role, 3 and above is oh shit nigger tier

>>163218196
Yes exactly, that is GOAT.

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>>163217831
>Literally cosplay tiers

Oh shit nigger, what the fuck are you doing?

Ok, so the new patch, you can't hit escape to go to hangar and the new UI still doesn't work. Make a user.cfg, can't work around it anymore.

>>163200631
send all 3 at my cutlass as fast as you want, aint gonna make you less dead

>TFW pyrobursts are so obscenely OP that flight combat has been reduced to "how many s3 hardpoints do you have and who shot first"

>>163217592
Wooo shit wooooo shit, just got a ptu invite, my body is ready for hours and hours of downloading

>>163218614
Yeah, I forgot about the 30 gb downloads. Really wish CIG would get on that shit.

>>163218614
good luck getting past the "sitting at under 1mb remaining at 0/0kbs while using 0% CPU/ SSD/ network" bug

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>>163217420
>#1 is """not furry"""
Hey does this perfectly ordinary person here who is not a furry happen to be a friend of yours?

>>163174129
>>163173873
>>163173474
>>163173403

(Git gud anon from last thread here)

So what would you people recommend then? I don't want to be a jousting shitter...

>>163218779
youre not quite grasping the difference between fictional 2d characters and real life people pretending to be autistic racoons

obviously i'd fuck a QT fox girl if QT fox girls were a part of my reality

>>163218779

The person in that picture who is a human being who wishes he was #6 on the scale.

>>163218968
>if QT fox girls were a part of my reality
You just have to WILL them into being, anon.

>>163218968
Don't let your memes be dreams, anon.

cool, furshit in /scg/. just like old times.

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>>163218571
>mfw you can pull off the Freelancer Commercial double kill with the current Pyrobursts

The pyroburst rape train runs both ways though, especially when you got a fat ass like the Lancer.

>>163219345
It's just the Vederation, /scg/'s official Org! :^)

>>163218896
The best thing to do to cure jousting is slow down. The slower speed in 2.6 is making everyone use up their AB thinking speed will save them, when all they are really doing is making really large arcs as they cut back and forth, constantly overshooting their target. It's not a BnZ, it's a weak rolling scissors that both sides usually try to win with more speed when the correct solution is less speed.

You are not flying an airplane (even though it kinda feels like it), you will not stall, you can slow down to not only cut a much smaller corner, but make your weapons easier to use and your ship will be harder to hit since you are turning a super tight corner.

Each ship has a best directional vector and thrust capability, except Avenger which is roughly equal in pitch and yaw. Each ship also has a best corner speed in IFCS. This means that each ship has a best way to corner and a speed that makes that circle small as possible. Most ships are only 60-75% throttle for their best corner speed, the track is the best place to figure this speed out. The maximum speed that IFCS can keep your nose locked without drifting is your best corner speed.

The strongest offense is to appear weak and draw your opponent in to turn the tables. I like to start with a slow lazy turn towards someone, hoping they will turn towards me. Hornetfags usually fall for this. As soon as I am in their range and they start shooting, I throttle up to corner and tighten my turn to get behind them. Almost always, the other ship is too fast and I get plenty of free shots while they make a big circle turning around in front of me. It's hard to stay behind someone, because of how easy it is to jink out of someone's guns, but you can use Rope-a-Dope to draw people in and pot shot them repeatedly.

I believe the Dicta Boelcke applies to this game and if you treat it like it has nuance, you can be rewarded.

why am i suddenly allowed to use ptu

>>163222347
whats your citizen #?

>Download only took an hour

Not bad.

>>163222347
Invites sent out, possibly randomly.

>>163222490
i have no clue

You can see on your profile page, I just checked and I'm in too. my # is around 200,000 so there's a lot of people who have access now I guess.

>>163222727
600,685

>>163222842
Is that in, or no? I'm at 847931 but am not in.

>>163223219
I'm in

>>163223428
That seems pretty damn high, a full release must be pretty imminent, right?

I'm just above 300,000 for the citizen ID. I never really play the game, how do I tell if I have PTU access?

I'm around #1,000,000 but i've done the odd bit of issue council prioritization flagging back in 2.0/2.1.
Got 2.6 PTU in this wave.

>>163224327
check your email

Crusader is not working, again. But pirate swarm gives health and fuel for each kill. The combat is super easy. The missiles are a motherfucker.

obligatory
GIVE ME 3.0

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Star Marine good?

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>>163226702
yes

>>163225224
What do you fight in pirate swarm, usual crusader 300s and auroras?

>>163226835
I keep saying this but my friends never get it.

Anyone else losing connection constantly in SM?

>>163227060
I really like the 350r. You fly about half throttle and when you get hit, you throttle up and AB away. With the replenishment, I never ran below 80% fuel. Could solo PS easy without those unavoidable missiles. The stage with all Cutlass Blacks is a motherfucker.

>>163227203
the dad part or the fact that they're fucking retarded and trying to be special snowflake by having the opposite opinion everytime?

>>163227520
Mostly dads. They don't believe it.
Sometimes the second.

>>163227316
It's a bug, report what you were doing when it happened via the link in your e-mail and the specific error code it gave you.

Just got the invitation to PTU.

Current patch is 2.6.0K.

Gonna test shit out now.

>>163224128
It's random

443,700 and not in.

>>163227316
if you're actually making it into a round and then losing connection at random then that's the norm for everyone at the moment.

if youre getting kicked back to the menus from the loading screen without taking a single step inside a SM match, it's your config settings and basically you need to disable all the fancy new UI in your game.cfg file

>>163228336
>It's random
How much have you backed?
I got a feeling there are underlying reasons...

>>163228336
for 2.6 it's literally go subscribe right now and get PTU acess. 2.5 and earlier did not mean guaranteed sub access and was fully random after issue council contributors and top backers

>>163228432
#49000 and over $350 and not in

>>163228432
Tree fiddy five. It's probably more to do with issue council activity. I have none.

>>163228347
>>163227897
>Norm for everyone at the moment

This is my issue. Thanks.

>>163228631
>>163228596
#440000
1800$ spent.
Got in.
Never ever reported anything to the issue council.

>>163228808
Jesus christ man get ahold of yourself

>>163228432
I backed 60 dollars and I'm in. I've submitted exactly one thing to the issue council. Shit is random.

>>163229228
... that's considered a problem?

Okay how to I stop form beading out all the time in SM?

>>163229723
heal yourself

>>163229723
Okay I should have elaborated, the h key dose not seem to do it, do I need to pick up stims in the level?

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>>163229228
I've given most of it away to people on here.

>>163229882
v key, not h

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>>163229768
That's literally the opposite version of KYS I feel hope for /scg/edg/. Its like a short hand intervention. Have this sassy sexy Elf space nurse as a reward.

>>163230320
Calm down Dandy

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>have to download a second 30 gigabytes to play PTU

roooooo

>>163230586
It's patched every 1 or 2 days. 30GB a pop. Buckle up.

>>163230160
Thank you.

How are we supposed to upgrade weapons in the PTU if we cant use the store properly?

>>163228808
>>163229228
Can confirm, $2200 in, in ptu first wave every time.
I've made like 3 bug reports in 4 years.

Also $2000 over 4 years really aint that much. 500 bucks a year, thats less than a lot of people annual booze bill.

>>163230586
Welcome to PTU, until the rebuild the launcher and file system it will be like this.

A couple patches back I DL'd like 240 gigs of SC PTU patches in two weeks. TFW Unlimited 8Megabyte per second connection.

>>163232241
>pretending to be sure that spending $2000 on a videogame is no problem in 4 years
>making retarded comparisons to hide the insecurity and thus to reassure the own being

are you that retarded nigger?
I don't think I've spent 2k dollars in my entire life for videogames