/wtg/ - War Thunder General

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first for gas all newfags

>>162858730
>he wasn't around to play on night poland with rain
>he didn't have a fucking full custom battle game with all the autistis and fags from /wtg/ where everyone couldn't see shit on the ground or on the air
I pity you

>>162858773
hownew.ru

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postin some cannons

R2Y2 spam at T4GF when?

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>>162858810
Ohio friend?

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unf

>>162859008
>cannon
the MK108 has a very good muzzle velocity for an AGL

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>>162859008

>>162859057
no, >>162859197

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plen museum pictures?
plen museum pictures

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>>162859356
What brings you to Ohio friend?

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having to resize all of my pictures down from 60MBs

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>>162859537
these were taken back in may. I just wanted to see planes and there's no good plon museum in kentucky.

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>>162859424

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>>162859569
Did the BIGNESS of this thing put you in awe like it did me?

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>>162859817

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>>162859859
I could not get a full picture of it so I simply left it as is.

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>>162860001

from the footage I've seen it looks like the New Update will take at least another two or three weeks.

The Maps and Vehicles look far from finished. Cockpits too.

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>>162860232
no it wont
the roleld out the tasks for CBT already same with forum titles and the trailer
patch will be between monday and thursday next week

cockpits are finished they are literally only a camera inside the 3d model with instruments added and they already stated that like 20 times

so when is gaijin going to unlock the entire jap tree

>>162860232
Shuriken bullshit literally starts tomorrow

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>>162860216

>>162860486
probs a month after 1.65 launch

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>>162860538

can a yak-3 vk 107 outrun a spitshitter mk 22/24 in level flight at sea level?

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/331379-165-rumor-round-up-and-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=6640447

is that the US air force museum in ohio? I've been there before

>>162860630
wasn't it like 3 months with bong tonks?

>>162860538
Su-7 when? Rocket pods when?

>>162860805
i dont remember desu i thought it was 1 week per tier
i always had the preorder packs so i dont know how long it was

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>>162860734

Why is the spaghetti .50 cal so horrendous

>>162860538
>rocket pods could be the one thing to save slav CAS
>"xD u don geddem"
every time

>>162860805
They did a couple new tanks a week at first, then opened the floodgates when they were done with tier 3

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>>162860842
that's a Mig-17, anon

>>162860973

>>162861046
Because the ammunition/barrel is shorter and because there's only two of them.

Two M2s wouldn't be the most potent armanent either.

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>Tigershitters so shit that I bounce their Kw36 in my T-V

>>162861161
You're absolutely right. My mistake.

>>162861352
>tfw no kraut F-84F

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>test fly one of the premium griffon shitfires
>fucking maintain 20+m/s of climb all the way to here
holy fuck i thought it was a joke that teebs were handheld but what the fuck

>be burger
>climb on jap map
>get no kills
just

>>162861646
just Sideclimb

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>>162860806

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>>162861553
>tfw no kraut canberra

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>shoot bombers on the engines and wings
>it does fuck all for me
>they just soak up cannons and machine guns like nobodies business
>I only get bombers to die when their guns finally set me on fire
why is this happening please help this is suffering

>>162862338
stop tailsitting you shitter

>>162862503
even if I'm not tailsitting the same shit always happens

>>162862534
take your time and make several approaches and only shoot at one wing the farther out to the tip the more it will fuck his ability to fly

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>>162861967

>tfw no blue impulse F40 Sabre

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??

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>>162863349
TEEBS BTFO
DAT CAPTCHA

>pilot loses control
>only then does the aircraft actually fly like you want it to
>manage to beat two yaks like this
makes sense

>>162863349
I'd love to see the russian results

>>162863349

question is incredibly vague...

in what, finances? resources? human cost? infrastructure? kills?

also what they paid or what damage they did? strategic value? political influence/actions?

shit senpai, the results vary depending on what you look at

>>162863595
>Question is incredbly vague
are you fucking stupid? The question is straightforward, go back to Londonistan you british pesent, dont you have some royal cock and 90 year old vagina to suck and suck the shit from?

>>162863595
>british education

>>162863595
>>162863595
>question is incredibly vague
it's not at all. It would be the sum of all of those things
Do you happen to be a brit yourself or something?

>>162863349
Tbh everyone who replies USA is stupid. Everyone knows Italy did the most to keep Germany from winning.

>>162863759

>british

niggers assuming where I am from based off the fact I ask questions

heres a simple question: US or USSR?

did the US pay more by their industry or did the US pay more in the human cost?

which one was more important to winning the war? which one was more decisive in defeating the germans or rather, which one of these two would have let the germans win by not contributing their part against the germans?

>>162864124
damage control

>>162864124
How dense are you?
You're trying to break up a simple question.
Who contributed the most?
That's it. That's all.

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>>162864119

>>162864168
>>162864219

sure, dismiss points with shit like this, can't expect people to actually read posts in this thread.

ok so what do you mean by contribution again? fucking define what that is. US wins by money USSR wins by lives lost and lives taken

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>>162864294

>>162864294
The question is who contributed more
So you have to decide which of those categories was more important and contributed more.
That's it.
Stop trying to break the question up into categories.

>>162864294
>USSR wins by lives lost
Sending tundra monkeys off to die without proper materiel didn't do the slavs any good. They won by running away until it got really cold.

>>162864294
and england wins by the amount of women getting fucked by foreign GIs on leave

what's the point?

>>162864441

thats precisely what I am asking, which of those two facets of the war was more critical, did US industry save the allies or did the eastern front's sheer death toll win, and in the case of the USSR, can US support through lend lease be considered critical enough that had it not been there the soviets would have lost?

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>>162863349
>russia probably did the most work
>not once is it the top answer

>>162864525
p sure that's france, m8

>>162864607
What? Are you just turning the question into a paragraph to act smart?
And in your first post you said the results vary depending on what you look at.
You aren't supposed to look at certain things. The question is extreme straight forward. WHO CONTRIBUTED THE MOST TO THE VICTORY

>>162864525
outside of cucked british men I doubt anyone gave a shit, by most accounts US and Canadian troops stationed in the UK were fairly welcomed, given they are all culturally similar and everything.

I can imagine some local papers bawwing about preserving morals, but occurrences of sex rose in most allied countries during the war

>>162864525
TEEBS BTFO

>>162864782

shit son so if it is so straight forward riddle me this then, US or soviets?

fuck man save historians decades of debates in this thread, aw man it was so easy whew, why the fuck did people waste research grants on historians anyways because thank fuck some retards on 4chan can solve it faster

reminder to report and ignore teeb spitshitters

I think I'm finally getting good with the P-38L

My last problem is just rounds going right through planes and getting "hit)" instead of actual damage

>>162864915
>inb4 merely pretending

>>162864915
What? What are you even talking about senpai

>there are people who unironically can't figure out the number of countries who used Shermans in WWII vs the number who used Churchills or T-34s

>>162865214

>there are people who think "soldiers only" is how armies operate, supply and logistics be damned

>>162864985
Wait for next patch, its gonna unfuck the DMs

>>162865341
>implying the US didn't have the best supply and logistics of the war

>>162865204
>>162865106

the fuck are you asking then, were the soviets likely to survive without US assistance? totally capable of pushing back the germans singlehandedly no problemo senpai

>>162865401

more that thanks to logistics and supply granted through lend lease the war had fewer allied casualties and the war ended sooner, whether or not it is enough to say lend lease won the war however is a hotly debated topic

>>162865529
it must be hard being this fucking stupid

>>162865529
>totally capable of pushing back the germans singlehandedly no problemo senpai
At what extra cost, though? Not to mention the slavs were such enormous pansies they signed an NAP with Japan rather than fighting a two-front war like ever single other major power of the war.

>>162865529
This whole thing was just pointing out how teebs are delusional.
You said results vary based on what sections you look at
We said we are looking at the whole thing not sections
Then you said:?????

>>162865821
Didn't they invade Manchuria towards the end?

>rather than fighting a two-front war like ever single other major power of the war.

Like the single other who barely fought an entire two front war until 1944?

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>the a-10 is just a jet powered hs 129/he 219
really makes you think

>>162865748

not an argument

>>162865821

I guess you didn't catch the sarcasm, also seems people believe in their heart of hearts there is a clear answer to whether it was the US or the soviets who contributed more, given the fact we pretty much have no clue if the soviets could survive without lend lease, and yet their claim to the highest number of krauts killed is their prime argument for being the mvp of ww2

>>162865875

was curious why teebs are being brought up in what should clearly be US/USSR debate, also because the definition of contribute encompasses both participation and financial assistance, so shit gets blurry and yes, needs clarification.

>>162866032
more like a Ju-87 ackshually

>>162865975
>US had Japan on their back foot just months after Pearl
>Commonwealth was very tied up helping British Raj and Australia

>>162866090
Disease and hypothermia doesn't count as a kill, desu, just a death.

>>162866090
Did you even fucking look at the graph????.?...?

>>162865975

they sent about 1million men into manchuria post double nukes, gave the area japan industrialized/modernized to mao, so in essense japan losing manchuria gave the communists china as mao had a resource rich industrialized base of operations.

should the US have gone to war with the USSR after ww2?

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>>162866090
so this is the power of teeb autism

>>162866167

russians take credit anyways, gl trying to convince them otherwise.

>>162866207

of what, a public's opinions? who gives a fuck about them? do they learn this shit properly? hell no. those results at best reflect what they learned, which is generally shit.

UK believes they won the war, because the BoB is so fucking glorified there can you even imagine them thinking otherwise?

>>162866391
Take a spectrum test friend.

>>162866247

>teeb

read what you post nigger, bandwagoning is unsightly even here.

>>162866391
you're a fucking retard.

We had limited effect in the war. Our effect was limited to the destruction of the German navy, capture of caen, some other places, shitting on the luftwaffe, bombing places and limited effort in the pacific

We did little in the way of complete land-wipe that America or the soviet union did. Our strengths were in navy and airforce.

Stop trying to argue about shit you know you're wrong about

>>162866247
Source

>>162866474

looking back at this graphic, what use does it have beyond public perception, these people probably get half their history from chopped up shit in HS and the other half from war movies.

>>162866391
Everyone won the war you stupid fuck.

Muricans and USSR gave their ridiculously gigantic industrial power to spam tanks into Europe. USSR kept half of Hitler's army stalling in the east, while they were trying to get the Caucasus oil fields, with USA helping them with lend-lease. UK provided a gigantic aircraft carrier and FOB for the retaking of Europe.

No single country won the war. It could have been easily lost had only one of the main allies fallen.

>>162866670
Public perception IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE GRAPH
IT'S A PUBLIC OPINION GRAPH

What is going on itt

>>162866819
this.

No america = No western zerg of infantry and tanks

No Britain = Germans still have their navy and the allies have no where to set base

No russians = No eastern front to take pressure off the west

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>teebs will defend this

>>162866639

luftwaffe committed to the BoB with a grand total of about 2.5k aircraft, lost around 2k aircraft.

the luftwaffe lost more aircraft on the eastern front in 1941 alone.

naval contributions are critical, but not "war winning" to say they were not the nation which contributed the most. this does not mean they did not contribute critical help, but fucking christ read up, we are talking about the most important contributions here.

as for completely destroying the luftwaffe and bombing, the US's daytime bombing really set the bill for the end of anything and everything for luftwaffe capabilities, they pretty much did daytime bombing with impunity while the luftwaffe barely had enough fuel to take off and make a run at them.

>>162866819

nigger we are not talking about who won the war we know the allies did, the infographic asked who contributed the most, jesus fuck.

>>162866929

who gives a fuck what they think then, what value does this shit have, history doesn't matter to most nor should it really, accuracy in this matter would be worthless if you don't really care. are you expecting something of them?

>>162867363
>Naval contributions are critical
>naval contributions are no critical

hmm, double think. Almost like you're indeed retarded

>>162867561

never said they are "no critical"

learn to read you got shit in your eyes

>>162867363
>who gives a fuck what they think then, what value does this shit have, history doesn't matter to most nor should it really, accuracy in this matter would be worthless if you don't really care. are you expecting something of them?
Are you seriously autistic
The graph isn't trying to find who contributed the most
The graph is finding what the nations think.
Its to show just how delusional the British are about their contribution

>>162867363
>Naval is critical
>Naval isn't critical

>We're asking who won
>we're not asking who won

>We're asking who contributed most
>we're not asking who contributed most

(??)?()?()?()?()?(?)(?)(?)(?))))?)09)()?()?()?(((?()?()?()(?)(?)(?)?)()9

>>162859008
>mk108 weighs 128lbs
I wonder if they could have used it as a crew manned weapon or mounted it on a halftrack for infantry support.

>>162867695

once again, no shit, they learn mostly about their "finest hour", can you expect them to see beyond rule britannia shit, glory days and fighting the krauts or whatnot. war itself be damned.

>>162867698

teeb read what I wrote

critical =/= war winning, so yes critical, no to being the nation that contributed the most

if you are reading "this does not mean they did not contribute critical help", learn to read dumbfuck.

we are asking who contributed the most, who won? the allies, dumbass.

you clearly cannot read, you seem to love strawmanning though.

trying to grab at straws teeb, keep at it, I am sure it brings you solace you once had an empire.

>>162867959
>namecalling
>does exactly what I call him out for again

>yes critical
>not critical
you dumb af

>>162868067

so how do you define critical? what the fuck are you reading?

if you think critical and war winning are one and the same, do the "critical" battles of midway, guadalcanal, and burma have any effect on the fate of the empire of japan should they have won or stalemated those battles?

of course not, don't be stupid.

Does anyone know how the gunners in bombers will work now that we have cockpits? Will it be the same 3rd person view?

>>162868185
>don't be stupid
t. guy who for the last 3 posts has performed double-think

>>162868307

looks like it, they didn't model gunner views.

>>162868386
Gunner views would be sweet for rb

>>162868357

>double think

because I don't think teebs come from a nation who contributed the most to the allied victory I am clearly double thinking, as opposed to you simply repeating posts with zero rebuttal. I don't even hear counter propositions beyond "but britain did stuff, therefore you lose".

don't be stupid

>>162868461

they would be a big fix in SB as well, 3rd person gunnery is kinda bull.

>>162868542
It's the
>Im upset so I'll just say random buzzword shit to try and sound smart but really Im just a sperg so I'm gonna sperg this shit about zero arguments and blah blah blah im stupid blah blah blah

yiffs

>>162868763

some guy got mad I said the UK was overglorified and they did not contribute the most to germany's defeat

if you didn't post that then sorry for the outburst, but fuck's sake that is a teeb.

also this is 4chan, by that extension any form of insult is a buzzword, get triggered therefore buzzword?

TO THE BRITISH SPERG, YOU DONT DESERVE ANY YOU'S

IT WAS A SIMPLE FUCKING QUESTIONS
WHAT COUNTRY DID THE MOST
OUTSIDE OF YOUR PATHETIC LITTLE ISLAND EVERYONE ELSE SAID YOU DID THE LEAST

GET OVER IT
YOURE EMPIRES GONE
YOURE NAVY IS PATHETIC
YOURE NATION IS PATHETIC

DONT SPERG THE FUCK OUT AT OTHERS TRYING TO POINT OUT YOUR FUCKING INABILITY TO GET A SINGLE STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION AS SUPERIORITY ON YOUR PART LOLOLOLOL

>>162869020
>but fuck's sake that is a teeb
No shit. you're probably arguing with Nyano

Anything teeb related isn't worth replying too.

but my point here: >>162867012
still stands

>>162869163

ah you're that guy, thats a fair assessment. this chain has gone on so long, what do now

>>162869298
continue it.

you're gay and I hate you!

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we have the Type 60

so when

>>162869345

feeling is mutual cuntface

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Why doesn't the excess modification RP just apply to whatever you are researching, on top of the vehicle RP?

What is the point of even awarding it, if it's only going to remind me I have spaded the plane?

>>162869516

gaijin wants you to buy more premiums senpai

>>162869516
>he thinks he'll get the spare module RP as vehicle RP
Thanks for the laugh

>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
>connection error
I just want to play this fucking game

>testers stars are called "shuriken" this time around
Lol how faggy they should have called the british testers stars "tea bags"

>>162869659


>BAD NETWORK CONNECTION
>BAD NETWORK CONNECTION
>BAD NETWORK CONNECTION
>BAD NETWORK CONNECTION


H-Hows your ping anon, having fun?

>>162870042
a few plane and tank spazzes here and there when the game decides my 78 ping is actually 400

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>>162869571
>>162869625
Top kek

Also I got 1 air kill in that match vs 5 tank kills in this one and look at the RP difference. It's seriously ridiculous, like you HAVE to get premium to even make tank grinding worth while. I mean it was slightly higher BR but the plane I shot down was the captured La-5.

>>162870087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9KWEqreB4s

>>162870165

something is critically fucked with how they calculate ground RP gain, forums calculated something in the hundreds to thousands of hours for moderate rate grinding to achieve rank 5 tanks in multiple trees, what a nightmare.

Is jg508 a /wtg/ squadron?

>>162870739
Yes.

>>162870850
Ok

>>162869995

>stars
>shuriken are throwing stars

ahahahahahahahahaha geddit also I run like the narutoes do

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>take off
>elevators fucking black somehow
>flop onto ground
>crash landing, no repair
>crew lock
How the fuck does this shit even happen?

>>162860139
is that the honda?

How in the fuck do i make sl? I have about 11 planes/ tanks researched but i can only afford to buy 1 or 2 a month at the rate i make sl

>>162871286
don't play tanks

>>162871286

grind out a plane, 2-3 kills per game, don't buy aircraft you don't want.

or buy a prem aircraft at low tiers with a high reward coefficient

>>162871530
>don't have fun

>>162871631

aircraft are fun if you don't suck

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It would be a lot better if the game didn't require you to buy previous aircraft to move up a tier and instead just unlock them

>>162871631
you asked why you can't accumulate lions. tanks are why. You will always make less lions in a match than it costs to repair your tanks unless you play russia and stay alive all the time or use boosters.

>>162871994
>unless you play russia

>>162871981

but sweetie they want you to experience all of what this wonderful game has to offer. this game is about the journey man, open your mind...

>>162871994
That rudeposter wasn't me. I play gf and air probably 50/50

>>162872412
I already know what flying the P-51 is like, I don't need to buy the fourth one just to get a jet

>>162872472

but the mustang won the war senpai, don't you want to win the war? history channel tells us it is best planefu

>>162872412
>>162871981
Could be worse, desu. They could make you grind out the vehicle with the immediately preceding one.

>have height advantage over spacefire
>he still helicopters up 2km and kills me with his quark-destroying cannons
Is it true that teebs are the most handheld when it comes to planes?

>>162872697

>could be worse

could be stock tank grinds

could be WoWP

>>162872889
I understand that the spitfire was unrionically one of the best fighters of war war. Especially the mk9 and the variants after that.

Things like their climb speed, turning ability, good acceleration and highest critical mach speed of any fighter. That's real life, but ingame it feels like way more

it feels like a literal spaceship ingame. I understand it was an amazing plane IRL but gaijin please.

>>162873239
Spitfire was good but had no range. All of those things you mentioned came at the expense of something.

Fantastic plane in a dogfight though. I can't think of a plane I'd rather be in in a 1v1 dog fight than a late model Merlin spit. Maybe a late Griffon.

>shooting at B7A2
>get a bunch of hits
>cannons are just sparkling
>get some more hits with MGs
>he Js out before he hits the ocean
>I get no credit for kill
why is this allowed?

boy I sure do love getting 2000 RP a match in my tier 3 tanks haHAA only need about 50 more matches to get my first tier 4!!!!!!!!! :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>162873490
yeah. It actually had more range than all the Bf109 series which is surprising.

Spitfire is the closest plane of that time that is the jack of all trade, master of all.

>>162872639
>history channel
>saying anything but luftwaffe alien tech is good

what

>slowly but surely, I'm getting closer to the P-80

>>162874168

my bad, sonderkommando elbe best girl

american 50mm machine guns got nothing on superior german ramming

>>162874286

>masochist

>>162874390
how bad is it

I've got just over 1k hours in wt yet ive never joined a squadron, should I? Are there requirements? Is there a squadron chat room where you can organize squads to fight with?

>>162874416

>it used to not be capable of taking off of hokkaido

it's g-great anon, best jet 2016.

yeah just stick to props to grind until the F2 sabre.

>>162874442

depends on the squadron, some are good, some are bad, my personal experience is a bit skewed since my stats let me often get approached, but I personally recommend the casual clans over the competitive or esports ones, they generally have attendance quotas and practice sessions depending, but some of the larger comp clans sometimes only have a weekly attendance, fairly low commitment.

most communities are fine, some clan drama here and there, if you do not involve yourself personally with the drama it won't be a problem, keep an arm's reach away and you can jump between clans fairly easily.

>I-185 can perfectly helicopter without losing much, if any at all, speed
""""""""""no soviet bias""""""""""

>>162875149

>Ki-10 best helicopter

Japanese FMs totally accurate, Ki-10s could do that yes

>>162874849
Thanks heaps m8. How can I tell the casual clans from the competitive? Is it in the clan description? I honestly have never even looked at the squadron pages.

>>162875629

rankings, squadron member stats, otherwise try and scout the forums. notable members of the esports community also sometimes just form squadrons solely for esport tourneys and otherwise drift or remain clanless.

if you are seriously considering esports, unfortunately NA is fairly trash for esports, EU is much stronger but little compared to RU, SA has some decent players but they seem not to associate too much in the esport scene, last one I remember seeing was a japanese sim squad that took second place 2 years ago. they formed for the tourney and dissolved when it ended.

>>162875947
To be honest I'm not too great a player. I come first in my team every 10 games or so. I'm just looking for a bit more fun out of the game is all. By the way, sa is south asia right?

>>162876458

yeah, haven't played too much on their server but it seems their best players are really good, dedicated bunch.

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>>162876551
I'm in Australia so that would be my best bet connection wise but i can never seem to find a game. I stick to us servers now. Thanks again for your help m8

Flew four matches today and can't take anymore

>flying the cannoncat
>other props on the team are "going low", flaunting it in chat
>they get torn to shreds by 262's
>last guy on my team is a spacefire who climbed to 6000 meters like a good boy
>"alright, let's keep a cool head and take it slow and work our way down"
>he points his nose directly to the ground and dives all the way down to the deck to try and get a kill
>gets assraped

>flying the cannoncorsair
>it's new guinea
>the team climbs directly at the enemy
>goes about as well as you'd expect

>cannoncorsair again
>engage a yak-9 at 5000 meters
>get a few hits ))))) into him
>suddenly tracers everywhere
>p47 shoots over my shoulder
>sets me on fire and kills me

>let's try again, Norway this time
>engage a bf109 g6
>do335 shows up after a while, he has a p51, a spitfire and a corsair on him
>dodge the do335's attacks a few times while trying to get guns on the g6
>do335 overshoots badly, the three allies still on him
>start working the scissors on the g6, he overshoots and I kill him
>the do335 has managed to turn around, I'm low on airspeed and get shot down by him
>the three allies are still on him
>watch for a few minutes
>do335 still flying with three planes tailing him

I know bitching about american teams is cliche, but this dumb shit happens consistently ONLY when I fly americans or british

>play US tonks
>against slavs and nazis
>literally 0 situational awareness and melt them all
kek

why do I never see anyone fly the corsairs? are they any good?

>>162877387

theyre fun, I fly the japanese corsair because the US teams seem to melt away all the time.

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>plane's statcard says it has a 7 m/s climb rate
>test fly it
>easily 18+m/s climbrate

>>162877707

was it reference flight model in test senpai

>there is no nazi bias

>>162878342
it was

but even with current it was still something like 12 m/s without WEP

>>162877387
They're some of the best turning planes in the game at high (450-600km/h) speeds, they have really good energy retention in a zoomclimb and have a ludicrously low stall speed if you pop landing flaps.
Problem is getting them to altitude and they lose hard to 109's in the vertical and get shit on by yaks unless you kill them quickly.

If you know what a high/low yoyo is, know that flaps are a thing and have the discipline to keep your speed high they're some of the most op planes around.

>>162877091
I've recently taken to flying burgers and in nearly every match half the team is dead by the time I've reached a decent altitude which is frustrating since a clap planes can actually club hard if the team actually tries.

I used to think most German teams where pretty bad until I started flying claps where I soon realized that German teams are probably some of the better in game particularly tier IV.

Most German players are scared to death of spitfires which usually leads to a fair amount of coordination and team work even with random players. Claps however also get lumped against the same coordination and team work.

f6f is b&z right? Any tips?

>>162879742

eh, it is a mix of energy fighter and BnZ, you can turnfight if you need to, but do not rely in that, climb, punish people below you, but you can brawl with the best of them, do not hesitate to fire, .50 cals are your friend.

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>>162879742
it's an okay plane, have fun setting everything within a mile in front of you on fire

remember to side climb))

Newbie here. What is side climbing?

>>162877707
>stat cards))))))))

>>162880541

you do not climb directly towards the enemy, but to the side, effectively by increasing the amount of time you get to climb before engaging the enemy, for aircraft that cannot climb as well this serves as an advantage to get to altitudes where your performance is relatively more optimal.

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In a tier IV premium tonk, with premium time and good performance in games, how long would it take to to unlock the chieftain Mk.3?
I have no teeb tanks at all, for reference

>>162880642
Is it a viable tactic? I see a lot of memeing here about it so I'm not too sure. Thanks

>>162880650

a while

>>162880842

certain aircraft benefit more from its usage, notably aircraft that operate superior to all contemporaries at extreme altitudes, so climb rate advantages are nullified.

there are issues when your entire team dies and you are the only one who climbed to 6-7km altitude, you might as well dive to the deck and die with your team there.

a good squad of P-47Ds however could sideclimb and hit 7km, clean up a whole team and no one could do anything about it.

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Back when the game was good.

redpill me on the fw 190 line

>>162881523
>being this shit
LOL

>>162882564
The A series should be at 4.3 topping off with the A-8 at 4.7 but theyre not, everything is playable but the A-8, unless you can spade that thing in an event or something dont even bother

>>162882795
>roll rate
>war crime guns
>unrippable wings

That's basically it.

>>162882983
Meant for
>>162882564

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>belly land halifax
>land perfectly
>none of the wingtips even come close to touching the ground
>one of them somehow tears off
>Crash
>Your plane is critically damaged

>>162882084

WISH I CAN TURN BACK TIME

>>162880842
it is only viable if the majority of your team does it. otherwise you're wasting time until it becomes a 10v1

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MFW most cucks fly arcade and arcade+ and they are still shit at the game.

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>can't
Implying

>>162882564
A-1 is fast as fuck and probably the most op, despite the less than overwhelming armament
A-4 is probably the best of the bunch to learn the focke-wulf -fu style
A-5 is pretty much the same as the a4 but 4.7br sometimes throws it into matches against griffonspits and tempests where it has no chance
A-8 is garbage imo, though I never really flew them seriously
Doras are a bit different in that they feel more like 109's than any of the others but they are the gateway to energyfighting nirvana

>>162884062
>recently switched over to sim
>got four kills in three weeks of playing
How do I git gud?

>>162884176
what about the F-8????

>>162884494
A-5/U2 does the same job better. 1 ton bomb is overkill and 50kg bombs are useless.

reminder that teeb tonkers are the best tonkers

fashit wehraboos need not reply with their so called"arguments"

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>>162884203
add me to friends in WT (KingTyrone) i'll give u some tips and if u have a mic i'll even play with u.

>>162884720
People are still playing bong tanks?

>>162884794
yes, people who are good at the game

>>162884936
>people good at war thunder

Questionable

how do people even fucking enjoy the mc 202

it's not fun when you empty all of your ammo into an F3F just for him to fly off like nothing happened before a spitshitter reenters from lunar orbit and shoots off your wings with one burst

>>162884642
>1 ton bomb is overkill
500 are okay, but 1 ton is way more reliable with the last nerf

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>climb to fucking 5km, going on 6km
>out climbed by N1K1-UFO and get fucking raped
>I literally have a faster climb rate and they're still fucking 1km above me or higher
HOW DO I PREVENT THIS

>>162884494
The mk103 pods are fun to mess around with in GF, but not worth the grind to get them. It's gonna get some anti-tank rockets in 1.65 but they're probably gonna be a meme.

why does the p-400 climb so badly compared to the p-39?

it literally climbs worse than a fw 190

>>162885513
git gud.

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>literally watching my fucking shots spark on a yak-3's tail and fuselage
>he shoots me once and I'm immediately turned into a dumpster fire
no bias, right?

>>162885513
Play sim where it's not "WHO CLIMBS FIRST WINS" but actual air combat where your skill and brain matter more than anything else.

>>162885885
shitty supercharger?

If I could get rewarded for every time I lured or harassed an enemy plane into crashing without firing a single shot, I wouldn't so poor as I am now.

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>all these losses
>all these hits not registering
>all these asists
>all these "hit)))))))) +15"
>all these seemingly UFO planes
>all these literal impossible deaths
>all these fucking frustrating deaths I end up putting myself through
grinding makes me want to kill myself

does it ever get better

>>162887082

yeah you l2p shitter

>>162887219
>hits not registering
>l2p
haha lol :)

What does a 190 do against a clipped wing Spit?

>>162887308
die due to the emergency warp drive putting the spit behind the 190

>>162887257

>whines about UFO
>can't aim for shit
>>>>>>literal impossible deaths<<<<<<<<<<
>all these deaths

typical shitter rhetoric, get good shitter

>>162887439
(you)

>>162887452

kys

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Oh I was not expecting that…that little gust my dear….you caught me off guard…yes…so gentle it was though…hmmmm…let me taste this little one…just one small sniff…..sniff…ah….ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffffff…and yet…so strong…yes…the odor….sniff sniff…hmmm….is that….sniff….hmmm….I can almost taste it my dear…..yes….just…sniff….a little whiff more if you please…..ssssssnnnnnniiiiiffffffffff…ah yes I have it now….yes quite….hhhhmmmm…delectable my dear…..quite exquisite yes…..I dare say…sniff….the most pungent one yet my dear….ssssnnnnniiiifffffffffffffffffffffff….yes….

>>162887343
HA HA HA SO FUNNY DUDE

fucking naziboo are useless at playing the game

>>162887591
Answer the question then.

>>162887689
Just roll the plane to avoid getting hit and force him to overshoot you nazi fuck

>>162887591
>posted from my literal miniature starship enterprise

>>162887729
Clipped wing Spits roll just as well.

>>162887589
>teeb enters the thread

>>162887763
>>162887794
fly faster you dumb shit

how do I la-5

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>>162887912

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How good is the AE86 Sabre? Is it better than the Cl-13?

>>162887912
And then?

>>162887974
it definitely drifts better

>>162887974

The AE86 has an underpowered engine so a shitty climbrate but nothing can outrun it on the downhill.

>>162888056
I bet my rx7 can!

>>162887987
Roll and force an overshoot you shit.

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>>162887987
>>162888473

Okay my fellow naziboos and teebs can't we all agree weebs have the most handheld planes?

>>162883195
TO THE GOOD OLD DAYS

>>162888473
First you tell me to fly faster and then you tell me to fly slower, which one is it?

>>162888581

>posts a J7W1 chan

handheld, totally a handheld aircraft and not a brick.

>6.0 handhelds and you think the griffon spits are not the epitome of handhelds

>>162888682
>handheld, totally a handheld aircraft and not a brick.
>posted from my j7w1 as it undocks with the international space station and shoots down a progress capsule in one shot before reentering and destroying the entire fucking planet with a 2 second burst

How do I fly the La-5s?

>>162888682

>posted as I intercept Voyager 1

>>162888832
>>162888924

cute thought, if you think the J7W1 is better than even the Mk. 22 spit overall, well, whatever makes you happy senpai

>literally watching shots go through people
please help how do i get good

>warblunder

>>162889152

post replay

>>162889196

WoTfag get out

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>>162889080

Could the Mk. 22 spit shit all over Tu-4s when they were 6.3? I saw a J7W1 shoot down 2 in formation with a single burst.

>>162889152
it's been happening to me too
>outskill a Fw-190 in my I-185 in scissors by twirling everywhere and praying he misses
>open fire on his wing
>Hit!

>>162889218
I sold my wot account a year ago :^)

>>162889263

>could the J7W1 outgun the He 219? clearly armament = best fighter

right right interceptor = best type of fighter

also people totally mean handheld when they say best interceptor, not easymode dogfights for days...

jumping all over with this bs, kys.

>>162889218
>post replay
I'll get it here in a second

I'm good at this game but I don't know what the fuck is happening to me right now. I'm leading (or trying to) my shots like I should be, but they sometimes fall short simple mistake. But then I'll watch shots hit the fuselage or wing, usually getting a Hit! but most of the time, it's not registering at all. Then I flying scissor with a Fw-190 and light him up just before his wing enters my crosshair (we're at a close distance, meaning my shots would actually land) and having no effect at all

>>162889356

so you're telling me your glue eating is not FOTM, it is your way of life?

>>162889383

>right right interceptor = best type of fighter

Considering it managed to intercept the Tu-4s at all without even having airspawn after bomber spawns got raised it is firmly in UFO territory.

>>162889383
have you ever even flown against the J7W1
it literally followed my X-15 in a vertical climb at mach 7 and fucking vaporized my entire plane
even in the space shuttle discovery it still outmaneuvers me and manages to do a gravity assist around the moon and break both my wings off with a tiny burst
maybe the X-37 has some chance against it, but I don't know I haven't unlocked it yet

>>162889474

climb rate = UFO

oh man you have saved the world all the trouble

all jets are also UFOs I presume, climb rate is a mysterious enigma to physics.

>>162889634

nigga turn

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>>162889383
>>162889474

Also forgot to mention it went on to kill a few F8Fs and 190s, and even a 262 before finally getting killed by a massive train of other jets.

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reminder

>>162889713

>aw man I got 9 kills in this thing, I also cured aids and super cancer

clearly because you think it is good it must be good

>man the A6M5 is a UFO because I turnfought all these ameriboos and they died lmao ecks dee

The problem with the J7W1 is that its faster than everything it faces while having adequate stats in other areas. Most of what it fights has nothing to leverage against it unless it's flown by a complete retard.

>>162890062

>adequate stats in other areas

have you flown the damn thing, speed is the only virtue it gets

>>162890114

>have you flown the damn thing, speed is the only virtue it gets

yeah once, I puked and never touched it again because of how much of a UFO it was

>>162890032

wau look supersonic props

they build the ISS on rolls royce engines.

>>162890182

>why is it a UFO

>it climbs to Tupolev levels

>I did gud

so I presume you believe it is superior to the mk 24 then, despite the fact it handles like a brick in a dogfight and would have to run the fuck away or hard BnZ against an aircraft that climbs better, accelerates better, and is more agile than it.

get real bitch

>>162890198
TEEBS LITERALLY DEFENDING IT

>>162890274

>why is it a UFO

well, you name the first reason below and what >>162890062 said

>it climbs to Tupolev levels

Easily 6,000m. He outclimbed my Ta-152 and everyone else on our team which included jets, he was the only one that could intercept the Tu-4s.

>I did gud

wat

>>162890336

someone is trying to say the J7W is the UFO here, teebs are trying to scapegoat

gas them already

>>162890397

have you even flown the damn thing

>easily outclimbed Ta

shit son, thats nothing to write home about, early jets are not good at sustained climb either, trust me, no one calls the F-80 a UFO.

6000m? you must be new to T4. also have you never seen a griffon spit? 6000m is a breather for them.

>if it isnt german it must be UFO

kys

>>162890401
>posted as I go so fast I transcend into a parallel universe and vaporize the uss enterprise with half an a press of my guns
>posted as I outclimb, outmaneuver, and outrun a GLRB-200 flying saucer from planet zorglob

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>>162890401

The real question is when GF comes out will it get proper AP shells and be able to murder tanks?

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>>162890534

>easily outclimbed Ta

AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT WAS A MIXED BATTLE

Bearcats

Spits

probably some Lavochkins

>>162890731

outclimbs spits

perfect example of anecdotal data being overly relied upon

go ahead, do some actual tests of J7W1 vs mk 22 or mk 24, I fucking dare you to tell me again the J7W1 climbs better

fucking try me bitch.

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>it's another weebs blindly defend the J7W1 episode and deny that it's a UFO SSTO-capable spaceplane

>>162890626

proper AP for the japanese 30mms won't be much to write home about, pen would not be spectacular.

>>162890879

>expecting red tails

shit tier bait

>>162890845

EXPLAIN HOW IT INTERCEPTED AND SHOT DOWN TWO TU-4S WHILE NOTHING ELSE DID OR EVEN COULD

TWO TU-4S IN FORMATION

CONTINUED TO DOGFIGHT MULTIPLE ~6.3 PROPS WITHOUT A SCRATCH UNTIL CHASED DOWN BY MULTIPLE JETS

>fw-190 dives
>goes so fast it manages to achieve escape velocity
>phases through the earth, dodging all shots from your guns
>ends up rolling scissors with the moon and waving hello to Erich Hartmann on it
>enters warp speed, traveling through the eye of terror
>somehow manages to fly past a Spitfire and J7W1 racing faster than an Eldar mega orgy
>disappears
>reappears behind you
>"nothin personnel kid"
>portable ion cannons stolen from rift sector 371 near neo-Japan in the Andromeda galaxy begin to fire
>your molecular structure is completely deleted from time and space
Naziboos WILL defend this

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How hard will this rape Americans, Britions, Germans and Russians?

>>162891045

replay bitch, I am hearing about an oil soaked rag brick with some 30mms doing shit I expect to hear from spacefires.

also if these are pre BR raise Tu-4s, you must have either the most amazing memory or your ass is speaking for you senpai

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>>162890879
>>162891045

>Hey, Tetsuo. Get a load of this teeb!

>>162891139

it will probably be shit, hydropneumatic suspension will be a meme come release, 8.3 BR with M60A1 stats and worse gun depression

weebs will defend it as the new jesus, looks like a wall hanger

>>162891139
Expect Naziboo asshurt when it gets teamed w/ Americans.

>Mu-muh Leo

>>162891141

>replay bitch

see below

>also if these are pre BR raise Tu-4s, you must have either the most amazing memory or your ass is speaking for you senpai

Kind of hard to forget a single plane deleting two of what I thought at the time was completely untouchable then going on to delete a good fraction of the enemy team

>>162891282

10.8 second base reload tho senpai

not sure if it will be as good as people make it out to be, over a full second longer reload than the Leo 1

>>162891448

or little bitch with a fantasy memory wants to blame a weeb plane because everyone else gets shit on in this thread

unfortunately you missed the Ki-84, N1K2, Ki-43-III, J2M, and Ki-100.

they have their fair share of UFOs, you pretty much picked the worst option to whine about.

>>162891139
Aren't nip tanks going to be always paired with the Germans?

>>162891558

at this point I don't know what gaijooby will be doing with tank nation balance, nothing is sacred there.

>>162891098
>fw 190

If you have trouble killing one of these please uninstall.

>>162891667
desu i hardly do but holy fuck can they dive

t. even still amazed when I used them

>>162891537

>unfortunately you missed the Ki-84, N1K2, Ki-43-III, J2M, and Ki-100

mostly meme turnfighters like Spits and 90% of the other UFOs people bitch about. J2Ms are mediocre, only good climb except the undertiered one. Only Ki-100 is maybe UFO.

The real UFO is the J7, it literally can't be countered.

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WEEB MASTER RACE

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>>162891723

>literally can't be countered

you're clearly shitposting, kys.

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>Spitfires getting a 150 octane fuel mod
>still no GM-1 on the Ta152H
>still no realistic boosts for the 109's and 190's

JUST
U
S
T

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>>162891453
The reload shouldn't be that big of a deal. The front plates and turret are sloped meme armor.
It's acceleration is actually better than the Leo, albeit it tops out a bit lower. Still, it should be mobile enough to compete easily.

>>162891159
not a teeb, it's just impossible to do any kind of orbital maneuvering without getting blasted out of space by a j7w1

i've lost three space stations to that fucker, it's impossible to counter even in a space shuttle mk 72

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>>162891924

WEEB PRIDE WORLD WIDE

>>162877707
Climbrate on the stat card is always given for full fuel, current modifications and 100% power.
If you got a spaded plane and climb with minimum fuel and WEP you get a drastically higher climbrate.

>>162892029
>these 50 calls are soooo bad lol

>>162892029
>hide your name in the killfeed
>don't hide it in chat

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>>162892029
It's not so much that Weeb planes are UFO, as it is that all the other teams consist of mouthbreathing nation-boo retards.

>>162891985

I can imagine, but it has been made out to being the lord and saviour of japanese armour, just another L7 on the market.

it might be leopard a1a1 syndrome with all the people rushing the type

>>162892141

>implying I cared enough about that and was just trying to not get namedropped every 5 minutes like teamspeak reddit pedophiles

>kv-1 knocks my crew out in one hit to my angled armor, which has "extra armor" on it
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>>162892158

this

>>162891931

Okay, tell me what some of the following planes should do from the start of the game if they know they'll be up against a J7W1:

>F8F-1B
>F7F-1
>F82
>P-80
>F-84
>B-29

>Bf-109 K-4
>Fw-190 D-12
>Do.335A-1/B-2
>Ho 229
>Me 262 A-1
>He 162 A-2
>Ar 234 C-3

>Spitfire Mk. 22/24
>Tempest Mk. II
>Sea Fury
>Seafire
>Attacker FB 1
>Meteor F. Mk.3

protip: they're all fucked and clearly outmatched