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Here to help edition

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Odin-without-Master-Assassin-talenting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20401307/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-the-mines-reopen-december-16-2016-12-15-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20405715/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-december-14-2016-12-14-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
http://www.heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

Previous thread: >>162839246
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First for Jaina is a dirty orc whore
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>>162984517
friendly reminder:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/1/1d/JainaBase_Pissed12.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150614221203
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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I've been playing my games for the new genji skin and I must say the games pretty sweet. I did not expect that.
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>>162984875
We know.

Too bad it's scoffed at and ignored, so the playerbase isn't nearly as high as it could be.
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>play with a bro and his silver friends
>winning
>then they do throw after throw like they're intentionally trying to lose
Tip; don't play with silvers. One of the most agonising losses.
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>>162984967
I only played ai games so it was easy but I liked how rehgar felt. Support with good heals and shit but I could still beat some ass it was tight..they're on to something better.
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Which slut should they add?
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Why is every HL game now filled with troll picks, how do these guys even get to diamond
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>>162985221
Amazon no question
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kerrigan is the best hero. debate me.
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>>162985221
>tfw no qt amazon gf
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Why do people hate Lt. Morales?
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>>162985126
Oh, Rehgar got buffed. 20% higher base AA damage, few talents buffed, his Blood Rage ult is now a teamwide stim drone with automatic heals, which is bonkers if you have shit like Valla, Raynor, Illidan or Varian on your team.
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>>162985221
Amazon got a Nova skin already, so she's out.

We don't need another mage. But we have no WoW rogue hero and no Diablo Stealth hero. Kicksin might be nice, yeah.
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>>162984114
Jaina is CUTE!
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>when you carry a game as Uther
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>>162986636
>when the enemy team is retarded
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>>162986319
Blood rage ult is fucking nasty and the other one is really good too. I really like how everything feels like a goddamn raid and it's just eye candy as well. Really nice. Is the blademaster fun? I want to play him but he's like 10k.
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>>162986636
Regardless whether you win or not, managing 4/5 more abilities than your team-mates is a satisfying ability on its own.
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>>162986267

Because people don't know how to focus a healer down that has to be leashed to whomever she's healing.
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Solo Varian tank, is that a thing? Because it feels like it wouldn't be, the fucking guy can't do a whole lot.
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>>162986819
Depends.
He's a slippery squishy annoying cunt with lots of damage.
Similar to Zeratul or Nova in deleting unaware backline characters, but can put up a decent fight on the frontline. AoE fucks your shit up though, don't pick this guy against KT or Guldank if they know what they're doing.
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tell me about the ragnaros builds
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>>162986319
Thrall with earthquake and rehgar with bloodlust is pretty op right now. I wonder how they would buff stimdrone to make it competitive with bloodlust
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>>162987454
>stim drone now only give 50% attack speed and 12% movement speed
>it no longer have a CD or duration, just drain mana from morales
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>>162985221

Amazon has a skin, which means she'd have to at least look different. There's some potential there, they could make her trait switch between melee and ranged kind of like Greymane.

Assassin has a lot of possibilities, because she could be a shadow summoner, a trap placer, an elemental melee martial artist, and fling ranged blades at people. There's a lot of completely different takes on her you could use.

Sorceress is kind of covered by Li-Ming, but this version of that archetype could be done differently. She could be a lot more benevolent and humble, someone who knows she doesn't know everything about the mysteries of magic. She could be a close range mobile aoe caster throwing sprays of frost shards (a shitty version of frozen orb), planting fire hydras like turrets, zapping for damage based on max hp with static field.
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>>162987454
>lava wave is sent
>thrall earthquakes while everyone is in the middle
>can't get out of lane
>kills 3 people stuck in earthquake

Thrall is really strong now because of how good earthquake is with rag and rehgar
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So I'm still somewhat new to the game, I have some characters that I literally can't manage to lose the game with regardless of the dumb shit my team picks, and then I have characters that should fit into a team comp but EVERY time I pick it my team seems to go full retard.


Does stitches suck THAT badly? I can hit about 80% of what I throw and every time I pick it I get a pair of usually Illidan/varian that dive into shit 2v5 before I can help anyone with anything.

I don't pick him as a solo tank and I usually pick him with multiple stuns on my team. It's so frustrating, should I just not play it until my mmr is higher?
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what tanks should i get
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>>162989168
Sgt. Hammer, Leoric and Johanna.
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>>162989168
etc, mura and johanna
dunno about the reworked ones but those 3 are the holy trinity of tanking
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>playing placement matches
>91 estimated wait time
>waiting for 500 seconds

Explain
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I stole this from reddit.
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In terms of the overall metagame, what is the ranking order of ranged assassins from best to worst?
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>>162986374
>no WoW rogue hero
>Genn
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>>162989383
I am sad that abathur has an hard counter now
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>>162989616
And it's not even a specialist
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>>162989883
tell it to every single ragnaros i've played with
all the did was splitpushing all game long
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>>162989510
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What is the point of Alarak?

If you're gonna play a melee assassin, why not just play Thrall or Kerrigan who does the same thing but a lot better?
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>>162990840
alarak is edgy tho
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>land 4 person ring
>3 really clumped up
>no mana for blizzard
no pls my dreams
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>>162991085
Why even play Jaina anyways?
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>>162992003
There are like 3 viable mages in this game.
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is tyrael good

i don't like a lot of these heroes but i need 14 of them
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>>162992583
He's a good off-meta pick, especially if you encounter a lot of heroes like Butcher you can cuck with Sanct.
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Any word on Auriel getting fixed? Her knock-back is incredibly buggy, inconsistent and unreliable. Sometimes you can whip someone and have them slide along an object and sometimes they'll be stunned, sometimes not. You can whip them on a rounded object and sometimes they'll be stunned, sometimes not. And sometimes you can whip an enemy and an ally will block their knock-back.
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>>162992659
*Sanct/Holy Ground
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>>162992664
I want to fix Auriel with my unholy cock!
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>>162992583
tyreal is only good in expert hands due to holy ground and sancti
in a sub 3k MMR team your teammates wont be able to take advantage of your spells and he will be a liability even if you are good with him, imho
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>>162992003
Jaina is really good, just a lot of people suck at her. Crazy how many terrible jainas there are out there
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>>162992997
jaina died to hero power creep
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START RUNNING
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can you redo talents in game
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>>162993520
nop
hero whose trait allows him to switch talents after not having been hit for a while when
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are there bans or something in ranked

why do i need 14 heroes
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>>162985221
>Slut

A draenei.
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>>162993801
>are there bans or something in ranked
yes

>why do i need 14 heroes
so that you can actually pick at least a single hero if you're the very last guy to pick one and every other hero you own has been banned or picked
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>>162993801
4 bans and 10 picks = 14 heroes
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>be me
>historically absolute shit at melee assassin/bruiser
>pick Ragnaros in ranked anyways
>contribute absolutely nothing to teamfights
>just D on structures when they are close and R lanes on cooldown
>die the most times on both teams
>also have the highest hero damage, siege damage and xp on both teams
>we win

This hero is absolute bullshit, not because of his high damage per se but because he's so fucking easy to play.
His heroic is completely brainless. There are very few situations in which the correct choice isn't to just use it on CD on the lane most pushed by the opponent. It might not be optimal but it's never wasted.
At least I suppose he's kinda fragile in teamfight, he shits out a ton of AoE damage but dies isntantly when focused (compare to Dehaka, Sonya, Thrall). Still this is probably the lowest skill floor hero in the game.
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>>162993801
do everyone a favor
dont fucking do ranked before at least reaching the lv 40 and get used to play all your damn roster
why do people want to rush into the fucking ranked and be the retarded who will inevitably bring the whole team down
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>spider map
>both teams have rag
>my team is losing all team fights
>usually only get one or two from their team
>takes 35 minutes to lose because rags ulti is too fucking good
Let me guess, no nerfs until next year because they are all on vacation?
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uther is fucking shit why did i get him
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>>162986636
THE LIGHT ABANDONS SNOWMAN xD
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>>162994837
>uther
>shit
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uther is alright
you just need to learn to play around his high mana costs and burst heals
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>>162995827
>this hero is okay if you look past all his crippling flaws
really made me think
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>>162984830
What have the latest leaks been? I haven't played in a while and missed them.
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>>162995827
I feel that these days you can't "play around it" anymore. His kit just demands too many resources in form of time and mana to achieve similar effects than other supports.

Multiclass tank heal rework please.
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>>162995969
Classes were a mistake and multiclass was two mistakes in a single hero.
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>>162995827
>he's ok if he isn't shit
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>>162994789
They nerf new heroes two weeks after release, do somerthing else meanwhile or ban him
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>>162995931
>>162996184
>I can't read
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>>162996173
Agreed. I'm starting to realise that classes are pointless and only create some filler and issues.
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Which sluts are missing in HotS?
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>>162997192
ur mom
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>>162997192
valeera, yrel, liadrin, whitemane, alextrasza
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>>162996435
Except everyone at Blizzard goes on a vacation for christmas and new years so we are probably stuck with this rag for a month
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they're doing a hots tournament at a place nearby
should i go there and show them how bronze i am?
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Is there some reward for getting a hero to level 20?
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>>162997943
successful autism diagnosis
also 2000 gold
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>>162984114

Can we get the new hero already? Ragnaros and Varyan are some of the worst most BORING announcements since the game started. Literally trash.

Even fucking D.Va is way more exciting, sheesh.
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>>162997192
Anti-Aliasing.
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>>162998278
>Can we get the new hero already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
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>>162997861
How old are you? Would you stand out in the group of 14yo's?
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>>162997943
you get bumped to hero level 50 when they change the system next year
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>>162998278
>Varyan
>with a y
Stand still.
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>>162998436
pretty shit "cutscene"
then again it was a while ago
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Lich Queen Jaina skin when
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>enemy ragnaros is good
>friendly ragnaros is bad

new patch when
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>>163000142
>quickfags
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>>163000115
With the release of demon hunter tyrande
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>temples
>we got sylv
>she calls rush bot wall
>we get the whole keep and 2 kills
>snowball all the way to victory from this
gold league
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>>163001060
>he gets into plat
>does the same calls
>loses game for people
thanks
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>>163001189
>meet him the very next game on spider as an enemy
>attempts the same shit on top lane
>wipes his team
gold league
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9 out of my 10 favorite female streamers in HotS are in Silver, Jesus Christ. Only Gela knows how to play this goddamn game.
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>>163002984
>see cute german hots streamer with a decent voice
>master
git gud NA
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So I just came back from 17 days of surgery/recovery, bought Rag immediately because I felt the need to spend money on something and cannot yet safely leave my house

Am I correct in thinking that just building around his Q and the regen skill at 4 with Lava wave is the way to go with him?
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>>163003518

Forgot the second half of my post, still a little out of it

Have there been any major hero changes since like last month worth noting? Any shite heroes get improvements, any massive changes, stuff like that?
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>>163003667
I believe that's how most people build him, personally I like the meteor build more but not much sustain that way. Also take heroic difficulty on small maps.
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>>163003667
Artanis is now more bruiser than tank, dehaka is god, reghar BL is good again.
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>>163002984
women are shit at video games
more at 11
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>>163004130
>>163005320

Niiiiice, cheers for the info lads, I'll give that meteor build a try

How did they fix Dehaka?
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>play Auriel
>babysit Gul'Dan
>"Life essence, this is you doing I assume"
>"Life essence, this is you doing I assume"
>"Life essence, this is you doing I assume"
>"Life essence, this is you doing I assume"
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>>163005916
They didn't really fix him, he was still pretty good before but now he can spec into,
>Move while burrowed
>Swarm can cause vulnerability
>every basic attack gives 5 essecnce

If you get to twenty and swarm into the fight you are unkillable.
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>>163006313
your*
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>>163005337
>there are women ranked higher than you
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>>162985221
>3 options
>2 of them aren't sluts
why does this post exist
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>>162995968
Aidan is the only hero left of the Axolotl leaks that was expected anytime soon

pre-blizzcon leak included zul'jin, valeera, reinhardt, and named kel'thuzad near completion

datamines have given us d.va as the source of a kerrigan interaction, and two heroes referred to as firebat and reaper

whether its a starcraft reaper or overwatches reaper is up for debate, some people think its malthael but that doesnt make sense imo given that'd be a nickname/title and none of the other heroes are named that way aside from SC units.
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>alarak don't overstay you fuck
>''did you just called me fuck ? guess I have to feed my ass off now''
>proceed to do exactly that for the rest of the game

wow... so this... is the power of weekend players...
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>>163005337

The thing is, I like bitchy/annoying gurls on my streams. I mean, I know there are good ones on diamond/master out there, but either they speak on a different language (rusky/italian) or fucking destroy the waifu dream by streaming with their boyfriends (I'm pointing at you Rentaro.)

This being said, Kiyeberries is getting FAT, and well, even if I personally like chubby girls, sadly, chubby doesn't fit her at all. She gets fat on all the wrong places (mostly the face.)

ALSO, goddamn it, the whole drama with Lauralania vs Artemis was fucking hilarious; I knew Artemis was a slut, but not the fucking town bicycle she apparently is/was. She literally slept with half the e-sport community of HotS, and then went on trying to bully Laura for calling it out, sheesh. Psycho bitches drama, I fucking love it.
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>>162997192

Monara.
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>>163006831
>2 of them aren't sluts
WHO IS THE NOT-SLUT, ANON?

WHO IS IT?
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>>162985221
amazon, no contest
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>>163006940
Anf you just had to add an insult at the end of your request, didn't you?
You'll be stuck with those players until you learn to do all you possibly can to avoid tilting them even more, which includes shutting your trap and concentrating on your own game
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I haven't got cursed hollow since it came back, but my friends that play say it still sucks.
Is it still that bad?
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>>163005916
they just buffed him into blizzard approved meta territory, just like they "fixed" brightwing months ago and just "fixed" reghar again, because the community is so fucking stupid they eat up power creep and can't understand 1 nerf = many other buffs to others.

>>163006940
>someone spams danger pings
>other person right clicks on tower and goes to get a drink
may be hard to understand but no one cares about your bullshit. people just play to play quick for fun, not nit pick over everything because this game is their life.
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>>163006940
Today I was Sylv on the new Mines.

The second golem was 60/40 for us, with our golem pushing with a sapper and a siege camp we just capped towards an exposed keep. Their golem was in a lane with the fort and two towers up.
So naturally I told everyone in my team to trade. If the opponent was shit at defending we were guaranteed a keep and perhaps the core right there.
Instead Auriel wrote "all def", ETC pinged their golem and that was that for our easy victory.
Did I fly off the hanfle and call them mongoloids? No, I regrouped and prepared for the next mine phase. Later we teamwiped them and pushed to the core.

Moral of the story is: shut up and play, even if your teammates don't play like you'd want them to. The worst thing you could do is to start an endless cycle of bickering and defensiveness.
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>>163006984
>talking to yourself
??
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What's the highest rank you can get after placements?
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>>163008675
bronze 1
i went 10-0 and this is what i got
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>>163008675
Diamond 3
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>>163008850
You are now playing with this guy
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>>163008675
Diamond 3
Which is funny because if you are a high master or even grand master you can go 0-10 in your placement matches and still be Diamond 3.
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How come Olaf can charge towards destroyed buildings' spots? Is this a new bug?
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>>163009470
its a feature
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>>163008891
>>163009364

Thanks senpai. I'm playing ranked for the first time (been playing unranked for a while), and so far I'm 4-2 on my placements. Hoping for at least 5 wins (I don't mind being average).
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Devil's Due is an amazing talent for Diablo but nobody ever picks it!
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>>162993943
APOLOGIZE
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>>163005320
Artanis was never a tank.
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>>163008850
>>163009291
Played 5 man specialist meme teams with /vg/ last season and went 4-6 and still couldn't get into bronze. How do they do it?
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when tracer laughs she doesnt actually laugh, her voice actor literally just says "haha" or "hihi" fucking annoying tbqh
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Why doesn't Blizzard let users queue for specific rolls in Hero League?
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>>163014184
>he thinks voice actors are actually in pain to record noises
>he thinks voice actors are actually having sex/sucking dick

?????
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>>162997192
Monk. We'll forever have that abomination with giant anal beads around his neck.
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>>163014184

Tracer is my gf.
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>close the game
>takes 20 seconds to close the game
blizzard wtf it never use to do this
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>>162993869
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did i do good?
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>next hero jan 10

who it be
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>>163014547

Because the structure of roles/lanes is something they initially wanted to avoid, I think.

>double support
>double tank
>double "specialist"

There isn't really one "meta" lineup, or composition. As much as I'd like to just be able to queue up and have a pool of 5 Heroes.

Also; nothing to stop people from offering to support, hovering Morales and then switching to Murky at the last second, fucking their team over. No, you can't dodge, because that's -600 points, while a loss is -200.

>>163008675

Diamond 3, 500 points. Keep in mind that your Quick Match or Unranked Draft MMR plays a hefty role.

>pic related

>>163016706

You couldn't have done better, Anon. I'm proud of you.
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>>163016706

>not master

no
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>>163016904
i didn't play any more games after my placements ;_;
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>>163016706
>>163016827
Whoops, just realized that's where you ended, not placed.

>when the caffeine hasn't kicked in

>>163009291
Oh, that's funny.
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>>163016424
CUTE! When is she coming to hots?
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7/10 wins in placement. Better than I expected.
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>>163019214
>platinum
>failed to place platinum
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>>163018524
This January, we're currently tweaking her final numbers, she's almost ready for PBE.
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>abathur with 600 games on the enemy team
>backdoors perfectly the entire game
>literally nothing we can do on warhead to deal with it because no global presence

Feels real bad
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>>163019412

is this what autism looks l
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>>163019285

So? Looks good with my portrait.
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>>163019743
True.

>also your ranked rewards are based on highest, not what you end at

Getting pic related has proven to be a rough go.

>>163019613
>murky

this is what having fun looks like
this is also what having no friends looks like
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>>162987227
Blast Wave
Blast Wave
Blast Wave
Lava Wave
Blast Wave
Blast Wave
Lava Wave
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>>162987227
Heroic Difficulty
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>>163019743
>adult panda and young panda couple
I can't believe Blizzard promotes pedophilia and bestiality at the same time...
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>>162986636

it happens more than you think
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>>163021015

Define "young panda".
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>>163021015

and incest. Chen is Li Li's uncle.
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>>163021015
Taoshi when
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>>163021015

just how young is lili?
just how bad do i need to feel?
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>>162987227

Hammer with Catching Fire for more sustain

Meteor for more damage but very little survivability, great in team fights if you can stay out of danger as you'll be able to hit the full team multiple times for high damage

Lava Wave always, this hero seems to have been practically built to fuck up split pushes from level 10 onwards, and you can pretty much end a lane teamfight with a single cast as the enemy has to either retreat or take huge damage. At 20, Heroic Difficulty on smaller maps and if you're on the defensive by 20, otherwise the second Lava Wave talent is fantastic for even more area denial and split push potential
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>>163021362
The consensus seems to about 13.
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>>163021026

He's not the best because he's not always good like Malfurion, Medic, or Brightwing.

Uther is Li Li tier.
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>Arthas
>Xul
>Tychus (not great at him)
>Medivh (not great)
>Samuro
>Varian
>Rag when he goes down to 10k

These are the only interesting characters I have left to get, who should I prioritise?

I'm thinking arthas or tychus, but I don't really play any of them when they're free.
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>>163024237
>thinking uther can reach Li Li tier in effectiveness
top kek

>>163024502
Tychus is a must have in the current tankmeta. arthas is pretty bad atm, especially since the dehaka and diablo overbuffs
rag is worth investing into
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>>163024578
Just got Tychus, 4k is really cheap.

Imo rag is not completely broken (in my hands) but he's super easy to do really well with. I expect some slight numbers nerfs to come.
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>>163024502

Definitely Tychus, probably followed by Ragnaros and Xul, depending on how heavily they bring the hammer down on the firelord.
>>
Best girl from each franchise:

>Warcraft
>Starcraft
>Diablo
>Overwatch
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>>163025909

>elf sloot
>tank sloot
>crossbow sloot
>quick sloot
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>>163025909
in this game or overall
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>>163025909

Tyrande

Kerrigan

Super Sonya, or, if we can't include skins, Li-Ming

Tracer obviously.
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>>163025909
>>163026686

Runner's up;

Jaina

Nova

Li-Ming or Valla depending again on skins

Zarya
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>>163025909
Sylvanas
Kerrigan
Li-Ming
Mercy
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Playing Azmodan is suffering
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>>163027290
Are you here to breed?
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>>163027361
No, she is here to feed
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>>163027509
I'd feed her something, if you know what i mean.
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>>163025909
>Tyrande
>kerrigan
>valla
>widowmaker
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>>163027327

playing rag and nova free week is suffering
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>>163027132
>Nova
>Just put some nigger dick up my waifu
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>>163027327
The lack of team fight presence is suffering.

>Pool then Globe every ten seconds

Annnnd that's it. Wish Taste for Blood was easier to stack, and didn't have a cap.
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>Ronin Artanis
>Thunder Guard Zarya
>Deputy Valla

2 of the 3. Which ones do I pick?
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>>163028286
None
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>>163028286
Thunder Guard Zarya and Ronin
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>>163028286
only deputy valla
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>>163028286
>Deputy Valla
>Deputy Valla
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wake me up when johanna gets a good skin
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>>163028926
Time to wake up and buy her master skin
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>>163028926
>Not just using the Black and Red tint.
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>>163028926
>best skin is default
>best tint is default

Thank you, Blizzard.
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>>163029275
I want to corrupt this slut
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>>163029325
With that hairstyle she looks corrupted enough.
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>>163029325
just show her your dick and she won't be able to resist
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>>163029208
>>163029275
Yeah I meant aside from her default skin, I use the warhammer tint
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>it's still easier to get diamond in hots than gold in league

zz underwhelming zz
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>>163027932
Give All Shall Burn a baseline movement reduction instead of needing a talent to move at all. His auto attacks are worthless, he 'needs' ASB to do anything at all beyond one burst. But it's unusable without walking, and even then stuns and displacements fuck you up hardcore.

Or add a talent that reduces Globe cooldown by 1s for each enemy minion and 2s for each enemy hero (or just the latter) hit with it. Instant massive presence in fights if they're clumping up.
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>still no female protoss hero

fucking why
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>>163030568
Fuck SCII. More classics when?
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>Goblin Chrome skin

My literal dick.
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who to buy
i saved up about 50k and want to get a few heroes who'd be good to have for ranked
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>>163031049

Just all-round, solid Heroes to have?

>Brightwing
>Falstad
>Diablo
>Johanna
>Tychus
>Xul

They're all pretty inexpensive, with the exception of Xul. Most of them aren't likely to be reduced in the near future, for the peace of mind.
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>>163031049

Aba is always worth having about, and you should get Brightwing and probably Medic incase you need to roll support. Rehgar has apparently gotten better so he's probably worth picking up, Tyrael is pretty decent if played right, as is Johanna last I checked. Tychus is always worthwhile, as is Falstad. Gul'Dan and Kael'Thalas are gonna be good as long as people insist on using Samuro. Leoric is one of my favourite anti-tanks, Li-Li can be alright but far from essential, I do enjoy playing Kharazim but I wouldn't say he's essential either, Alarak is well worth it if you can learn to play him well, and you probably know that Tracer can be a touch ridiculous by now
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>>163031602
>Aba is always worth having
>few heroes who'd be good to have for ranked
>Aba
>>
Is there any realistic hope of getting any info about Zul'jin before the Christmas vacation?
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>>163032235
>go hat build with double symbiote
>enemy team can't fucking win a fight because you just heal half of their hp + shield + movement speed
>not good for ranked
The only thing you need to think about it the heroic depending on whatever the fuck is going on in the map.
Is the enemy team roaming but isn't cleaning lanes? Pick monstrosity, stack it to 40 and duel pretty much their assassins because fucking hell mosnstrosity can 3 shot squishies
Is the enemy always trying to hard engage or have a li-ming/kael on your team? Pick clone and fucking curbstomp them every time they want to engage.
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nice game
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>>163032545
Do not trust this man, he advocates for monstrosity.

Never pick monstrosity, always evolution. Your presence in teamfights matters more and Aba can push just fine with lots of bugs.
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>>163032545
>pick monstrosity
>get it up to 40 stacks

fucking

how

>>163032787
better than the 900 second placement queues lmao
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>>163032545
>go double hat
>and monstrosity
i mean if you make it to 20 in essentially a 4v5 you were probably going to win anyway
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Would this fix Gazlowe? Been thinking about him.

>New function on 1 key to manually target turrets. Does not require Robo-Goblin anymore.

>Scrap divided into two types of metals: Cogs and Shrapnel.

>Turrets that are destroyed either by you or some other source become Cogs, Cogs refund 100% mana cost and 8 seconds of CD time on Rock-It-Turret. Turrets can now also be thrown, placing them from a range.

>Deth Lazor gains faster charge talent baseline.

>Xplodium Charge now becomes remote detonated after 2.5 seconds, as opposed to being a timed bomb. (Targetable via your trait for manual detonation) When destroyed, drops Shrapnel, which refunds 15 mana and causes your Xplodium and Grav-O to recharge three times as fast for 3 seconds (Same as his scrap is now). X-Tra Large Bombs talent is now baseline. (30% increase radius and cast range)

>Robo-Goblin now increases health by 30%. Melee attacks also deal 50% more damage to heroes in addition to it's current non-hero damage bonus. Activate to spray engine gunk in a large radius around Gazlowe, slowing enemy movement speed and reducing the rate at which enemy heroes abilities charge by 50% for X seconds. Can no longer throw turrets, and the cast range of Xplodium Charge is reduced by 30%.

>Grav-O Bomb now also equips Gazlowe with a Grrav-O-Pak, magnetizing Gazlowe, giving him a new function on the 2 key, allowing him to draw in all Cogs and Shrapnel within a large radius of himself.

New talents would be added utility or cooldown reduction on the scrap metals that drop. Utility stuff like say, the ability to allow your bombs to give vision, acting as wards as well, maybe even revealing stealthed heroes. Talent for Lazor that reduces the cooldown by 2 seconds for each enemy hero hit with it. More charges on your Xplodium bombs and Turrets, etc.

Also, threadly reminder that Blizzard does not give a shit about Gazlowe, Nova or Anub'arak.
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>>163032787
Nice slut!
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>>163033235
>wait until enemy team leaves a pushed lane alone and go get objectives
>monster the mage minion to get rid of the health orb in case of someone trying to stop it
>shield and go help team with double hats
Of course this works in really specific situations where our team by default can't win a fight and need to apply more pressure on the enemy team, honestly stacking has been way more easily thanks to the ragnaros lava waving the lanes giving you free stacks for your monster.
A 40 stacks can outduel an illidan if you're using your hat in it.
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>>163033474
What would fix this fucking meme hero that only attracts godawful shitters horrible at the game is to remove him and everyone that has him above lvl 5 from the game
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>doing dailies in Vs. AI
>beginner (lowest) difficulty
>Lunara named Dustin
>has died 3 times so far

browder is that you

>>163033474

I want Gazlowe to not be bad because he's fun, but It'd be a cancerous meta if he was top tier.

Just wish his W was a bit more like Heimerdinger's
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>>163030648

>blizzard was going to give chromie a thong

o-oh my
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>>163031049
Muradin Johanna
Tychus Thrall
Malf Brightwing Rhegar
Hammer
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>>163034029
>Denying free gold.

Come on anon.
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>>163031049
Our time has come!
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which heroes are officially garbage now with the new ones out
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>>163036810

Rework/buffs when
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>>163036810

C tier is still entirely shit
Xul's power waning as wave clear gets better and more "mage" heroes are added
Falstad seeing drops in WR because of global ability nerfs
Auriel dropping because Chromie is rising
Cho'gall still bottom of the bottom tier
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>>163036810
no need to play any supports that aren't Malfurion or Brightwing
no need to learn any tanks that aren't ETC, Muradin, Johanna
no need for any specialists that aren't Sylvanas (because of the Diablo maps)
only assassins and off-tanks have some wiggle room in their picks, everything else is a matter of having the meta heroes or losing.
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>>163031329
>Xul

is fucking bottom tier right now. literally every meta assassin has better waveclear AND team fight power on top of it.
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>>163037545

This isn't quite accurate.
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>>163036810
The Lost Vikings have been garbage since their rework.
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>>163037730
maybe it's different in bronze, I wouldn't know
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>>163037723

Xul is a strong counter to certain heroes that are in the meta.

Xul is falling in WR, but he's still considered high tier. Ragnaros fucked him hard, but he's still fine if there isn't a lava wave in the game he's in.
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i did it reddit!
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>>163037914
>win rate dropping harder than your fat ass mom out of high school
>"h-he's fine g-guys"
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>>163038045

>-1.7%
>DEAD HERO NEVER PICK HIM
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>>163037723

Oh, is he? I take it back, then. Still a strong pick into everything he used to counter, though, no?

>>163037969
holy tits

if you don't get banned for this god bless
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>>163037545
>Thinking ETC, Muradin or Johanna are as good as Dehaka or Diablo.
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>>163037969
>medivh more experience than vikings
>29-0 tlv

lmao
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>>163037545
>>163037871
You didnt mention Auriel and Morals, which are good.
You didnt even mention Dehaka, the new king of the game. No Diablo. Nor Artanis.
You didnt mention Medivh or Azmodan or Xul, which are potent as always.

Your opinion is garbage, and that is why you are shit and think your dribble is accurate.
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>>163038715
>Medivh or Azmodan or Xul, which are potent as always.

question mark
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>>163038484
>>163038715
>Dehaka
kek
delusion faggots thinking dehaka is suddenly solo tank viable.
he isnt.
Diablo can work in certain comps on certain maps but nobody touches the King of Metal.
>>
>get a rag with skin who spends the entire blackheart game fighting siege camps in our lower corner
>at level 24 he has 22k hero damage, 2 deaths, 2 kills
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>>163033474
>hobo-goblin gives Gaz his cigar back
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>>163038930
both picked in tournament scene.

>>163038979
You know ETCs greatest strenght? he reks newbies that cant position. hence why you think he is better than dehaka or diablo.
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>>163038979
>I can't play Dehaka better call him shit.
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>>163039394
>m-muh globals
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>All these baddies underestimating my boy Arty.

I can't wait when the next Tournament starts and someone does some insane shit with him and all of a sudden everybody will be on his dick.
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>>163039386
>both picked in tournament scene.

because what the pros do has anything to do with solo queue
especially in the depths below master


>>163039561

why do people want this shit braindead hero that just walks at you to be good
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>>163039506
More like.

>muh wave clear.
>muh tankiness.
>muh cc.
>muh damage.
>muh making everyone vulnerable.
>muh split pushing.

The fact he has a global just makes him even that much more insane.
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>>163039394
he's right
dehaka wasn't solo-tank viable before and he isn't solo-tank viable now

his kit simply doesn't offer enough damage mitigation for him to be good at solo tanking
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>>163039386
he got wave clear, he can split push, he got self heal, he got an AoE stun that engages and disengages, AoE knockback, teamwide block, buffs his sustain allies

I think you dont know why ETC is so strong.
>>
>>163039695
>>163039615
I cant believe there are people THIS clueless in here. Dehaka can do everything he wants now, and solo tanking with his defensive ult is more than viable now
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>>163039561
Arty has been massively nerfed from being a mediocre tank to being a moderately successful bruiser.
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>>163039905
Are you describing ETC or Dehaka?
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>>163039968
>responding to azmodan, medivh and artanis
>omg guys dehaka can solo tank
>reading comprehension
>>
i want to play inquistor auriel

punishment
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>>163039683
>cc
on a long ass cool down with a tiny range plus that stupid delay after activating the skill
>vulnerable
forces you to spec completely into swarm giving up on the important drag upgrades to make his cc viable plus burst is dead so unless you got strong AoE like Jaina nobody will reliably follow up on that vul
>split pushing
half the meta is split pushing and he cant 1on1 any meta hero
but I guess this is the famous NA meta
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>>163039992
>Massively nerfed.
>All these new tier list come out and he went from dumpster to tier 1 or tier 2 in every single one of them.

The tank build for Artanis was always ass, and people that took it shouldn't have been playing him.

Hell with the buff to his shields starting earlier and shield surge at lvl 4, he's still really tanky.

Add to that the shit you can do with the new swap combo is pretty insane. He's never felt this good even when his W was bugged.
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>>163040141
Also anyone unironically still calling Artanis bad or mediocre needs to experience someone playing a good artanis and shut up
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>>163040365
>He can't 1v1 any meta hero.

Say fucking what? He's got better sustain than them and more health. Like I said just because you are ass with Dehaka doesn't make him ass. Dehaka was getting picked all the time in pros because of that and he just got fucking buffed even more.
>>
Learning Diablo right now. He's tanky and has a neat team fight combo, but he seems pretty useless outside of those two things.

Any tips?
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>>163040576
he got picked because ETC was always first ban
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>>163040576
Look at his 'arguments'. He has no clue about the hero that can 1v1 nearly anyone now and never loses a lane with a baseline global and 15 % vulnerability in the late game. Dont bother
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>>163040527
>ask why anybody would want artanis to be good
>LOL u just haven't played against a good artanis shut up


Fucking Artanis players, jesus.
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>>163040659
thats it.
he is a shit laner but great at rotations.
grab 2 mates and gank some shit.
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>>163040691
No he got picked because he's really fucking good. He was on several teams with ETC.

>>163040717
At lvl he gets better wave clear than anyone that would 1v1 and at lvl 4 he gets a talent that gives him massive essence off healing from minions.

Please tell me your bronze so I have zero chance of playing with you. Hell you probably think Zagara is still good.
>>
>>163040717
please continue playing him so I can continue winning against him
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>>163040750
Why do I want him to be good? Because he's fun and even funnier after giving him the combo.

He's probably my favorite character to use in the game.
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>>163040940
>he got picked
the data says otherwise
https://masterleague.net/meta/?p=14&p=13

case of selective memory I guess.
>>
>>163038715
>Morales
>in a meta with next to no peels vs hard engage
>Auriel
>when Chromie exists
>Dehaka/Artanis as solo tank
>Medivh in leagues below top 10 GM

jfc how can one post be so cancerous
>>
>>163041079
>why would I want a cancer hero with a shitty kit to be good?
>>
>>163040821

Is he better with health regen or ability resist from the souls? Or is it team comp dependent?
>>
quick how do i play sonya

i am just doing quick play to level and there is no healer

do i get the healing talents
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>>163042227
how to be a successful sonya in 1 step:
1. play another melee until she gets reworked

t. level 11 sonya ;_;
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>>163041079
I think Gazlowe is fun, and enjoy playing him. Doesn't mean I ever want to see him become an S tier pick, just because of his kit.

>>163042227
You don't.

Play something else until she's buffed or reworked.
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>>163038537
tlv camped me 80% of the game when i was dying under their towers lmao
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Im currently testing how well my favourite tank in all the world does against the current fotm.
He is pretty great against Diablo and Artanis, anyone play him against Dehaka yet a few times? I can never get him in those matches
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>>163042750
that was hero memes too btw
>>
>>163042767
solid
he cant run away from you unless he goes burrow
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>>163042750
Yeah, you made somebody happy. Journey to Bronze V, comrade?

have you recieved suspensions for this type of thing good grief that's a lot of dying
>>
>tfw damage Tyrael will never be viable ever again

I miss smiting niggers
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>>163043095
Why would Tyrael smite himself?
>>
*slicks back hair*
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>>163021362
She is 15.
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>>163043543
Legal in some countries.
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>>163042227
like an assassin, she is very fun gl anon!
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>>163043840
Legal in the Nexus :^)
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ok now i am sonya in a game with thrall, hammer and ragnaros

should i be a tankier type
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>>163043840
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>tfw Li Li summer fun/ bathtime skin will STIlLL never EVERRR
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I blocked another anon earlier, and now their name appears to be this (it was something different). Is this common?
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>>163042767
>my favourite tank in the world
>is a hero with zero capacity to peel

How's tanking like in dust league?
>>
>>163044534
yes
fuck you why the fuck did you block me
>>
>>163044534
Battlenet does that sometimes. Thats what Battlenet identifies the player by, just not as a clear name
>>
>>163044582
>not enjoying solo laning against chen/dehaka on braxis as skeletal man

the best kind of feeling
>>
>>163044582
Jesus the plebs are running wild today
>>
ok sonya is shit

i just get pulled by a dehka and then thrown by a diablo
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>>163042227
Take the healing talents. (but not the one that increases whirwild healing.)
Also most of the time it is better to spam seismic slam and basic attack than to spin like an autist.
I usually use whirwind for the healing when i'm in the middle of the team. (not where you want to be usually, because you aren't very tanky even with the talents), or when someone is running away on very low health but you just can't get in range for seismic slam. Also it is good for escaping because it gives you movespeed and enemies cant bodyblock you for the duration.
But yeah play like a melee assassin and not like a tank and you should be fine.
Also she is very bad in quick meme because she is classified as a warrior even though she can't tank for shit and the enemy will get a warrior that probably can.
>>
>do well with shit pre patch diablo
>do bad with nu-diablo

wtf
>>
>>163043176
No, he means he's the nigger doing the smiting.
>>
>>163044954
sonya is pre-varian varian
you shouldn't play her for now
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>>163045651
woosh
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>>163044534
He is dead Jim.
>>
How do I git gud at this game?
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>>163046981
play vikings
become good at vikings
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>>163046981
Fundamentals'll get you to master.
After that it just feels like the will and time to queue, although I wouldn't know.

in the end why bother lmao diamond in this game is silver in the other one
>>
>>163046981
the process of min-maxing.
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>>163046981
Don't overextend, learn to manage your health and mana/resource efficiently, gain experience, get the most out of every encounter with as few resources as possible spent, and make sure your allies don't fuck up. What >>163047336 said, basically.
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D2 Druid better be our next Multi-class.

And you fucking better be able to pick his role at level 1, because holy mother of shit, Varian is useless until 10.
>>
>>163040659

Should be ganking most of early game.
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>>163043039
na not yet i think it's because i'm a good goy and buy skins
>>
Any tips to playing Mi Ling? I seem to do mediocre but don't get on that hot streak every teamfight.

I run oom all the time too.
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>>163046981
With patience and effort
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>>163049617

Hitting your shit is key. If you can't hit them, you need to make them afraid of being hit. Also picking the right talents to counter their strat is important.
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Do illidans not understand to not duel a fucking nazeebo?
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>>163049617
>running out of mana as ming
enable quick cast if you haven't yet, look for wounded targets to pick off, land W+Q on them, use your refreshed cooldowns to pick off others
she can still do nasty amounts of burst and take out any enemy who's overextending with incredible ease, provided you can aim
as for your lack of mana, are you using the +100% mana regeneration at sub 25% mana talent?
dunno what you're doing, are you just using spells as they get off cool down?
if need be, you can always drop your Q or W on a nearby minion wave or wizard minion and grab the regen orb
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>>163050050
Illidans understanding anything? heh.
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>>163049617
>im oom and they aren't dead
Either learn to hit your shit that matters or stop playing her.

>>163048981
A Feral/Guardian Druid might be neat.
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>>163050050
>illidont trying to 1v1 me as Naz
>widdle him down a little with AA and toads
>when I get lowish health I drop spiders and ice block
>he runs around and dies to spiders
>spiders do 1k+ damage
lamoing
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>>163050614
I started playing a bit of Vile Infection today ... at 150 stacks a single jar of spiders chunks like 80 % of a chromies life.
Naz is just so fun
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>>163050673
Vile Infection Zeebo is one of the strongest level 20 heroes in the game, it does ridiculous damage and needs like double healer to mitigate.
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>>163050673
i am so glad that his spiders no longer die once the initial targets got killed
here's hoping this is not a bug because i really fucking hated how they just dropped dead like that
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Literally how the fuck did Ragnaros get past testing when it comes to Braxis? The objective may as well not even fucking exist against him.
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>>163052924
Thats like asking why Sylvanas exists. We will never know. Adapt, deal with it or ban it
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>>163052975
Personally I think they should change Sylvanas's trait to make the towers shoot drastically slower instead of turn them off.
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>>163053957
Yeah, something like that.

Also; make structures take reduced or zero damage until after minions meet in lanes. Hammer, Zagara and Sylvanas cheese isn't fun.
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>>163053957
Sylvanas is in my opinion the most unfun hero in the game. If I could change one thing in this imbalanced crap, it would be her trait. Dont nerf it, remove it completely.
t. master with 3100 games
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>>163054002
>>163053957
t. bronze

Shit like this is why LeL is extremely bland and unoriginal. A hero has a niche? Nerf it. A hero is good at something? Nerf it. I cry about it? Nerf it.
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>top deeps as best waifu
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>>163054393
>le bronze

No, and this isn't an acceptable response to criticism.
>>163054464

I love Tyrande.

Scared what they'll do in her inevitable rework
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>>163054605
>reads one word
>ignores the other 30+ words
Typical LoLfaggot and whiner.
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>>163054464
>>163054605
I shed a tear everytime a tyrande goes support instead of damage. Dmg Tyrande is a miracle to behold, and will beat anyone except maybe Guldan
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>>163054464
yo what build?
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>>163033474
I would venture to say Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about Abathur either. He's in the same boat as Gazlowe, Murky and Nova. So insanely situational that they're just useless in almost every situation because of it, or rely on the enemy team being incredibly incompetent.
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>>163054709
01: Seasoned Marksman
04: Searing
07: Battle Momentum
10: Starfall
13: Sprint
16: Trueshot
20: Nexus Frenzy
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>>163054795
thanks
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>>163054651
Oh, that explains why everybody is playing the interesting and original game we've got here.
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DPS Tyrande is pointless if you compare to anyone else that deals damage. You're simply gimping her substantially by doing DPS.

>>163055021
Nice change of topic.
>get called out
>uhh...something random!
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Uther rework when?
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>>163055162
Hopefully? soon.
actually? if its coming at least 3-4 more months of him being garbage
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>>163054393
Well then remove every map that's built around a monster stomping down the lane and pushing to the core.

She was a big reason why Haunted Mines was taken away to begin with. Make the poison so that it doesn't attack heroes whatever I'm fine with that. Just make it so that they'll still attack objectives.
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Tyrande is my favorite and best girl and I usually go owl build if I'm solo healing, the only possible talents that are flexible are at 7 between lunar blaze and lunar momentum. Rewind at the end I think is strictly better than storm shield.
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This general lacks of memes.
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>>163055334
>She was a big reason why Haunted Mines was taken away to begin with.
Blizzard being lazy and not wanting to do something that requires thinking and time isn't a good argument for a hero or map being changed.

Sylv' is hardly picked and if you can't counter or even deal with Sylv' "cheese" then honestly, get good. Same goes for Hammer "cheese"

>>163055429
> Rewind at the end I think is strictly better than storm shield.
kek
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>>163054651

I read the whole thing. What's worth responding to?

>omg hots has interesting and unique niche heroes

Okay, I guess? Sort of shits up a lot of games when they get picked outside their little niche, but okay.

>>163055334

Mostly just this, though. She'll just always be relevant in the design of maps because of her interaction with objectives.
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>>163055497
You keep responding so you tell us. What's with the sudden influx of actual silvers and whiners? The OW promo?
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>>163055480
Sylvanas is picked all the fucking time in maps where she's strong because of the objective.
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>>163055478
We had the ironic hero pics and the bees. Thats enough memes.
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>>163055626
Even if true, you can ban her (!) and she's easily killed. Also, many heroes are better on some maps than others (other maps and other heroes) and vice-versa.
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>>163055480

What's wrong with rewind? More heals, more stuns more owls means more cd reduction
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>>163055581

Barely Masters, actually.

Although that probably translates over to Silver or Gold in that one game. Not sure about Doto.

>>163055727
>just ban her
>just kill her

Oh.
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>>163055673
Fool, there is no such thing as enough memes.
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>>163055727
And then you let the other team get an actually OP character just because you can't let them get Sylvanas with an Immortal or something.
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>>163056183
>sylv is never banned
>sylv is never on my team
>sylv is always on the enemy team
>oh and no one on my team including myself can deal with her at all
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>>163056183
>>163056361

Perhaps we'll eventually see an increase in the number of available bans?
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>>163056361
Plat 2 theorycrafters need not apply
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>>163056361
That's not what I said at all mother fucker. In fact the only time she's annoying is cheese with objectives. On certain maps you can't allow the other team to get her, which means they get a better all around character, just because her trait is retarded.

If you are as bad at the game as you are in reading comprehension I feel bad for the people you play with.
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>>163056684
>cheese
there's that meme again :^)

is that like lol's 'toxic'?
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>>163056598
I don't see how this wouldn't be the case as they add more and more heroes.

Speaking of which, does anybody else hope they don't get up to LoL's retarded character selection? What do you think a good number would be? Maybe not as a complete stopping point, but as a point where they just kind of sit back and slow it down a bit, and focus on just retooling the pool of heroes as is.
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>>163056929
You haven't noticed the grayed out arrows on the character select screen?
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>complete the full nexus challenge
>FOUR heroes for FREE

it's hard to adequately explain this joy I feel, but I can hardly stop rubbing my hands together in a hunched over manor
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>>163057027
you should look into doing some renovations if your manor is hunched over
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>>163002984
>Match with some girl streamer last season
>she shills her stream in the chat
>We are both silver 2
>We won
>Check her out a month later
>She is now gold 2
>I'm still silver 2
Maybe I should uninstall, I'm clearly not good at this game
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>>163056823
Cheese a meme? How long have you been on the internet to think cheese is a meme?
It has existed in every game and will exist in every one. Here cheese is called sylvanas bullshit
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>>163057027
>played since beta
>got every single hero in the challenge for FREE
>all my friends bought at least one, usually two or three
>they're still mad at me
Who /jew/ here?
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>>163057156
fuck you
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>>163057205
git gud

btw toxic was a word long long before league even existed. nice logic, retard
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>>163015336
>VA doesn't actually get anally fucked without lube to record the sounds of pain

Now I know why they don't want to cooperate with the union, what happened to artistic integrity and method acting?
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I love having access to cho'gall just to troll the piss out of people for picking garbage shit.
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>>163057308
Remind me where I referred to league at all? what a useless cunt
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>>163057594
>Feel like being a cunt because of a loss streak
>Just play Murky
>Actually win

It's retarded how often I win as Murky when I just want to spite my team.
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>>163057980
It's called drawing a parallel with your argument. You got blown out, anon. Just take it on the chin and leave it.
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Does Giant Killer on Very Nice Dryad Lady do damage on just autoattacks, or do poison ticks proc it as well?
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>>163058047
You actually think your shit makes sense, dont you? What a sad existence
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>>163058119
AA, retard. It's shit on her. Why would it be on poison? How fucking over-powered would that be. And since when does GK work on something that isn't an AA?
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>>163058206
>get blown out
>umm......ad hominem!
>yeah that'll show 'em! ;_;
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>>163058119
It's just the auto-attacks.

>>163058047
>You got blown out, anon. Just take it on the chin and leave it.
Yikes.
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i cant wait for CUTEST GIRL to come out
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>>163058207
How is giant killer shit on a hero with a +50% attack speed talent?
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>>163058586
>getting the IAS talent
Oh no...
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>>163058315
You keep talking about this 'blown out' as if that is a thing that happens. you didnt blow anything out, you took something I say and added some shit referring to something I didnt say to it.
Go to bed youngun
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>>163058679
>actually get blown out
>personally attacks
>gets called out
>i-i-i mean no you didnt!
holy mega-kek
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>>163058732
Sometimes I have trouble believing people like this exist. Making things up on the internet and feeling good about it. Whatever floats your boat I guess
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>>163058830
>he's still going
Keep entertaining us.
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>>163058732
>guys i blew him the fuck out
Just...stop, please.

>i-i-i
You're actually an idiot.
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>>163058872
>163058872
>he
you mean yourself, right? Dont worry, someone out there likes you :) Im out
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>>163058975
>i'm out
>still posting
>>163058972
>still getting blown out
>still attacking people despite being wrong
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>>163058409
If they make her a warrior, then an all-purple team of Malf, Tyrande, Illidindu Nuffin, FUN and CUTE! and Maiev would make a good team.
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>>163058623
I'm probably wasting my time asking, but which talent do you prefer?
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*rattle*
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>>163025909
Vashj
Medic
Auriel
Mercy
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>>163059041
>Team Purple vs Team Greened
Make this happen, Blizzard.
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>>163059121
Im afraid if they release him they will not live up to the warcraft model.

Also give me goddamn Stukov already. Jesus I want infested Stukov in this game
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They just added him to Co-Op commander in SC2 so maybe.
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>>163059054
No need to be so upset. Are you one of the shit-posters?

And either the first or second in the tier.
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>>163059374
This meant for >>163059283
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>>163059121
I never even questioned it, but what the hell is that on his back? Its like some weird Egyptian-themed shell.
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>>163059041
would be interesting if they made maiev multiclass like varian. but at this point i dont care i just want my girl
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>>163049617
saving mana for objectives should be your highest priority after not dying. knowing when you can go full spam then B or should just forget clearing a wave though game situations is important. short cooldowns make her one of the easiest to take yourself out of a game.

always assume orb will be dodged when possible. avoid using orb on single targets. there's room in the mana pool to throw a couple just to zone but after that someone needs to take some damage.

take advantage of tele escape to blindside, orb range to try to save stupid teammates, and wof to disrupt.

don't set orb to quick cast. the very slight speed benefit isn't worth it until you ace maxing it on minion waves. do set teleport and disintegrate to qc immediately though.
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>>163059121

Sometimes I wonder how many Heroes they have in the works, and how far they have releases planned/scheduled.
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>>163059593
But she's already in the game and was just buffed.
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>>163059646
Mewn today said during stream they told him about Rag during Heroes of the Dorm.
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>>163059646
The official stance on blizzcon 2015 was that they are more than 12 months ahead in their planning of heroes. sounds like a bunch of bs, but I dont work there so I cant say for sure
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>>163059441
Your response just lacked any content. "Oh no..." is essentially just a shitpost. Not upset or a shitposter. I was just expecting a similar reply.

IAS has actual synergy with wild vigor and giant killer. Regardless of what you like to use, you shouldn't say giant killer is bad on Lunara.
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>>163059935
>>163059809

Oh, brilliant. Any notion as to when we'll get the next hint/teaser?
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>>163060057
But it is bad. Try it. But yet again, there are DPS Tyrande in here so yeah.
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>>163059593
You'll get your Maiev when I get my D2 Druid, Baal, and Elemental Shaman.
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>>163060182
Traditionally, the christmas / new years time is vacation time at blizzard. I wouldnt expect anything until the first two / three weeks of january 2017
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>>163060236
I have tried it. It's good against melee heavy comps when you don't need the range to be safe.
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>build heal Li Li
>lose

>build dragon Li Li
>win

what could it mean
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>>163060981
Dragon Li Li is an underestimated beast. especially once you get 20, and especially against illidan. I love dmg li li in my games, because I would not touch that thing with a 10ft pole
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>>163060981
Serpent or dragon? A lot of people mix these up.
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>>163059121
When he comes, he'll be a support like his VA's other character.
Oh wait, he also voices a bad tank and a specialist.
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>>163061158

both
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>>163061250
>kel'thuzad
>support

pls no


not like this
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>>163061250
who does he voice? I genuinenly dont know

Also am I crazy or did Kaels va either change or was told to go in a completely new direction? I loved Kaels voice in frozen throne but cant stand it in this game
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>>163061748
Uther, Xul and Lich King Arthas.
Micheal McConnohie did the voice for Kel in Warcraft 3, Vanilla WoW and Hearthstone.
He was replaced in Wrath because he also did the Lich King voice so much, Blizzard didn't want people to notice that two of the big bads had the same cadence when speaking.
He would later voice Deathwing in Cataclysm, several minibosses in Panda and still does the voice for Lich King Bolvar.
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>>163061643
He freezes your wounds shut. The plagues he gives you are gifts that hurt you in the right way to make you better.
He's a skinny Papa Nurgle.
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>>163062004
>He was replaced in Wrath
aw shucks. thanks for the info
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>>163062082
>Papa Nurgle
anon please, dont make my pants go too tight :(
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How come MY team can't ever get a Lunara?
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>>163062292
shes an aquired taste. Most people that want to go AA pick Valla instead and fail
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>>163062434
Valla is better in most situations than Lunara though.
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>>163062434

Yeah, this.

Whenever I go to practice her everybody asks why I'm not picking Valla.

I've had the best results with Jimmy. ;-;
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>>163062610
Valla is better in the hands of a good player that deserves the name. Otherwise Lunara will be more effective most of the time simply by virtue of dodging everything by hopping

>>163062619
if you want AA you have good choices desu. Valla, Lunara, Tychus and atm Jimmy (with hyperion bug) are all favorites and viable
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>>163040527
his shield i heard was still bugged to proc after dmg taken, he would be good if that wasnt the case
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>>163062712
>hyperion bug
Explain.
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>>163062718
https://clips.twitch. DOT tv/horsepants/BlushingJayDogFace
You can pull shit like this all game, and get better the longer the game goes. Go ham, anon-kun

>>163062763
currently hyperion profits from aa buffs like seasoned marksman and focussed attacks etc

also artanis has a bug that fucks up his shield sometimes, so hes below his max potential
yes yes
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>>163062712
>better choices

Yeah, I know. Sometimes I'd just prefer to play/practice Lunara, and for that I have smurf accounts.

>>163062763

Sssh, not too loud.
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>>163062926
KEK NICE ONE BLIZZARD

TIME FOR SOME JIMMY!
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>>163062926
I knew about the Artanis bug being back, didn't know about the Jimmy bug.
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>>163062939
How did you make this I need to know
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>>163063274
I didn't, so unfortunately don't know.

Sorry, comrade.
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>huh im sure they buffed nova by now
>look through patch notes
>no nova buffs

>well they definitely buffed leoric-
>no leoric buffs

hmm
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>>163064247
Leoric indirectly got buffed by heroes hes good against getting stronger. Play him in two tank setups and you will dominate AND have fun.

Nova still is a pick to fuck up squishies that everyone hates, but can sometimes work in the right composition. Just dont pick her into good stuff like ETC Dehakar or Diablo
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>>162984114
>here to feed
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>master skin diablo still pushing/flipping people out of skills
>saves a jaina who shows up at the objective 20 secs later and wipes us
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>>163064380
Why do people even get that master skin? Honestly one of the lowest-tier master skins in the game. Some of the laziest, ugliest and unfitting SPIKEY ARMOUR possible. Why not put trophies on his spikes? Like a skull or two, some chains etc.
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>>163066671
Diablos usual skin are boring. master skin shows you (hopefully) know what youre doing
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>>163066758
Sadly, majority of master skins I've seen are genuinely trash players. Hero level is purely based on time played. You can be a legit' wood player and have master skins.
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>>163066758

Really? I've found it to be quite the opposite, especially on the "red flag" heroes, and specialists.
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>>163066839
>>163067018
It cant be viewed as a skin of 'skill' but if you have something at lvl 10 or above it at least shows you invested some times. theres no way you spend all those games learning nothing, right?

..

right?
Please tell me Im right
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>>163067110

I'd like to think so, but I've bumped into Bronze and Silver players that were level 20 on a Hero, or multiple. Maybe they ran out of Heroes to buy? Who knows.

>or those people who only play against bots
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>>163067110
I still think so, but for many players, hardly. At the very least, it's common to see level 10+ on hero level and they suck ass. On good players, however, hero levels are a bit apparent.
>>
Ragnaros: OP? Or NOP?
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>>163067376
>Not blacking out each hero's eyes

Jesus fuck, you're giving everyone's identity away you piece of shit.
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>>163068248
*gasp*
I know these people! you exposed them!
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What the fuck is "favored adjustment?"

I get dinged because matchmaking couldn't find an exact numerical match for my MMR? Kiss my ass Blizzard.
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>enemy team is destroying our core
>dehaka is pushing a lane
>3/3 games lost tonight
this is what i get for playing qm
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>>163068807
Isnt it self-explanatory? If the enemy teams mmr is higher, they are favored to win. Otherwise, switch it up einstein

>>163068810
At least queue unranked draft, jesus do you like pain or something?
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>>163068810

Hey, at least you aren't losing points off it.

>>163068807

>we think you should win this match
>we think you should lose this match
>we think you should be higher
>we think you should be lower
>>
reminder that dehaka is a viable solo tank in NA
>>
>Chen has died 6 times in 10min

why.png
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>>163069602
And how's that? Just his ability to soak skillshots? Because Dehaka seems like he's just as much of a solo tank as Prot Varian.
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>>163070398
>thinking varian cant solo tank now
>thinking dehaka cant solo tank now
get with the times, bronzie
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>>163069921
>Drunk people.
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>>163055478
I cry every tiem
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>>163070514
Prot Varia nstuns every 8 seconds, Taunts every 16. Varian is worth shit after that.
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Just give Uther a Prot Pally build and let him offtank.
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>>163071353
His q with quest gets pretty mean.
Not to mention that he deals quite a bit of damage and he only has mana issues if you're spamming q and w like a madman.
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can we please get another slutty fem hero

zarya and crusader are good examples of sluts done right
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>>163071659
>zarya
>fem
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>>163071659
>crusader
>slut
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>hey rexxar is pretty cool and only 4k let's buy him
>that frostlord skin looks cool but i doubt it will be on sale in any bundles or anything
>oh hey it will be in the very next weekly sale, i guess i'll buy it
like and subscribe
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>>163068898
i play malf and brightwing
yes
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>>163071659
You want another Jaina?
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Can anyone tell me why low rank players value medic so highly?
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>>163071659
Valeera is coming after Zul'jin.
She's a BElf, the sluttiest kind.
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>>163072908

Because she requires/draws a tad more attention and care than other supports. Sort of like ETC with his Mosh.

>people dive her too hard
>people are too scared to dive her
>they pick textbook "counters" into her they don't know how to play, then do one of the above
>allows teammates to take an almost unforgivable amount of punishment, provided they aren't 1-shot
>people don't know how to stop stim
>extremely easy

>>163072217

Hey, nice.
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>>163072908
Because she's (debatably) the best support in the game when she doesn't get picked off.
Guess what low-ranks are bad at doing?
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>>163073526
Can confirm
>Pic medic
>healing people
>Some smarty pants thinks "just focus medic guys"
>He ignores my team and goes straight for me
>Gets fucked by my team
>Get back to full health thanks to caduceus
The only match I've had with 0 deaths on my team was because of that
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>>163072891
Lux Jaina when?!
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Lothar Varian skin when?
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Who should I git gud with next? Illidan or Thrall?
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>>163076082
Thrall is braindead easy as shit and completely "meta", because massive utility ults, and because ranged poke. What viable melee hero wouldn't be complete without ranged poke.

But Illidan is alright too, just way more comp dependant, obviously, because he isn't as faceroll.
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alarak is broken as fuck
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>>163076284
He's just a better Kerrigan.

-Just-.
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Tracer deleted when?
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female draenei shadowpriest when
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36k gold (with a nexus challenge 30day stimpack coming up)

who do I buy to be competitive right now? haven't played in a while
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>>163077232
Brightwing is one of the best Supports now, Alarak is a better Kerrigan, Ragnaros, everyone says is OP so you probably wouldn't even get to play him in HL.
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>>163076209

Every time I play Thrall he sits there and does nothing with his auto attacks. I have no idea why. Every hero autos the expected way but Thrall doesn't. It's like I have to constantly push attack+click to make him fucking go.
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>>163077372
>Every hero autos the expected way but Thrall doesn't.
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>>163077459

>use rotation on dude with every hero
>they continue auto

>use rotation on dude with thrall
>he hits them then stands there and doesn't auto and i have no idea fucking why

Maybe it makes sense to you with meme arrows le reaction image man
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>>163077734
>>163077372
That's honestly real weird. Just took him out in Try Mode to try to see if that happens to me, and it doesn't. The only time he just stops attacking seems to be when the minion i had him set to auto attacking dies. Then he just does nothing until I tell him to attack something else.
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>Diablo is the new king of the quick meme
>People start first picking Diablo in shitter league
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So with diablo's changes what are the best talents to take for him?
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>>163078340
First you turn your brain on. Then look at the talent list. Then decide what you'd like in the match.
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>>163078428
So bulwark, from the shadow, soul feast or shield, fire devil, fearful presence or domination, and lord of terror to give myself good survivability then?
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>>163078548
Always Hellgate at twenty.
It's a FREE stun Bolt of the Storm, and niggers can't run away because you'll slap 'em right back into it, which wonderfully combos into Apocalypse for a guaranteed 3+ second stun on a single target.

Also, if you're picking Firedevil, you'll be spending time AAing heroes, in that case, always pick Life Leech. Devastating Charge is absolutely worth looking into, in combination with Domination it's a free 30% health damage + 3 second stun with From The Shadows.

If you're looking into sustain, Devil's Due is absolutely retarded in that regard, though it requires you to stay alive a lot and doesn't help out during teamfights.

Soul Shield is just too good to pass up on, if your enemy has even one mage, it's already worth it to cuck that cunt out of his damage by blocking skillshots. Soul Feast is relatively minor in comparison to Devil's Due, Diabolic Momentum is a lot better because it means you can Luchador more.
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>>163078967
t. Silver
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>>163079028
t. NA
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>>163079121
No, I actually am Silver. Note the 90 second delay :)
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>>163071659
>still no Maiev, Queen Azhara or Valeera
>still no good SC slut
>still no D2 Amazon, Assassin and Sorceress or Andariel or the Spider Pussy from D3
>still no D.Va or Mercy

What the fuck, Blizzard?
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>have zarya on team
>they manage to get almost entire team in their ult
>before their ult ends I use apocalypse stunning them after they were all group
I really need to learn how to get gud with diablo if I can help with set ups like this
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>wonder why i have immense lag
>battle.net connected me to the fucking australian server
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>>163055162
but uther had a rework already

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20164442/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-july-12-2016-7-12-2016#Uther
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>>163080839
And he is currently the worst support
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>>163080895
and you think they're gonna (((rework))) him again instead of just buffing a few numbers?

boy are you in for a dissapointment
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>>163080084
Does diablo's stun ult stack damage?
For example you get hit by two circles, do you get double the damage?
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>>163081038
I think so because as soon as I did it most people lost half their life
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>>163080736
>think it's just a one-off
>get connected to the fucking singapore server with only-slightly-better-ping
I fucking hate this game, I fucking hate this client, and I fucking hate Blizzard.

Next I'll get probably get connected to a fuckin snow-covered server normally dedicated to one building in Antarctica.
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>>163081397
What's your IP?
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How do I find some random guy to friend and play 8 games with?
I want to finish this 30 games with a friend quest
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>>163081753
go to general chat and ask people
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which hots girl needs a good fug?
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>>163084025
li ming
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>>163084025
Chromie
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>>163084025
Sylvanas
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I haven't played in a while but this Samuro character feels really fucking shitty to play against. Holy fuck this is so annoying.
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>>163085889
Get AoE, get Blinds, pay attention to stealth.
Don't try to run if he bladestorms, just full focus him because you can't outrun him.
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>still no surrender button for this stupid fucking game

haha fun fun fun!!!
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>>163086101
Games are so short you dont even need it. Now they need a spectate mode tho
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>>163086101
surrenders are toxic :^)
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>>163086174
>Games are so short you dont even need it.

Games where you have no chance of winning feel like fucking forever and you get punished up the ass for daring to leave so fuck this.
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Hello played this game like 2 years ago and it was absolute dogtrash.

Is it still?
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>game is 8-34
>we can't win team fights
>we can't kill anyone
>we can't push
>we're at 30 minutes and the enemy team refuses to end the game

GET

ME

OUT

OF

THIS

GAME
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>>163086101
>surrendering at all when wiping enemy team at your core past level 20 is basically a victory
Learn to stop fucking sucking.
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>>163086494
Enjoyable characters, fun abilities, fantastic visuals.
As long as you place diamond 3 your ranked games are typically fine, but quick match can put you into some harsh games and the community is typically trash.
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>>163086664
Oh please shut the fuck up, you know you can't do a fucking thing in this fucking game without your team. You know that thing, teamwork? You need it to fucking win, if you haven't been able to tell.
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>>163086664
>wipe enemy at 20
>my team goes for camps/boss/active objective
:^)
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>>163086621
Just feed like a madman then.
But I've turned plenty of games around at level 20 where we only had Keeps left, and the enemy all forts. Hammer's orbiting BFG is magic if your team plays along and only defends.
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>>163086804
>>163086805
>even though it happens on the enemy team all the time I'm too busy thinking I'm just that good to notice
Shit happens all the time in lower ranks and quick match.
Teams either overestimate or underestimate what they're capable of and getting wrecked despite seemingly being at an advantage.
Almost every single game where the enemy team has a huge lead, some of them get cocky and slip up, allowing us to take obj/camps/push while we have a 5-3 to 3-1 lead.
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>>163086101

And how would you go about implementing that? Only way I can think of is a vote system, which has a fair few problems attached to it whether you do majority rules or all or nothing rules

With a majority vote system, you'll get people grouping up specifically to vote surrender either at the start of games to screw people out of being able to play, or at the end of games to screw people out of what would be a win on their records. You'll have parties surrender voting if you don't do what they want you to do just to spite you, you'll have single player spergs spamming for surrender if you don't do what they want you to do. It'll be a new way for people to mess the game up for other players

Now, if you use a system where the whole team has to agree to surrender, then you run into the problem of the inevitable holdout who insists on seeing things through to the end, either out of stubbornness, dickishness or because it's a videogame and they actually want to play it win or lose

And on the note of people holding out on surrender for the sake of playing the game more, by surrendering you're cutting the game short for the other team, for good or ill

I just don't see it being implementable in a way that would be able to satisfy the need for snowball matches to be finished quicker that doesn't also allow new ways for people to cause more trouble in a game genre that does tend to attract control freaks, and won't consistently screw over more people than it helps.

Having said that, if you can work out a way around these and the other problems I haven't noticed, then I'm all for it, because while I don't mind being on the receiving end of a drawn out loss since it lets me mess around with my hero without pressure, I completely understand why that shit sucks for most people
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wew sonya is shit
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>>163087187
>I ran into the enemy team and hit all my buttons and died why isn't this hero stronger
Every fucking quick match Sonya I get.
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>>163087187
>hl
>someone picks sonya
>feeds their ass off like they are a murky
>does no damage
>does no camps
I will be stuck in plat forever
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Can someone explain the point of stealth to me if you aren't even truly stealthed?

It pretty much forces characters like Nova into B and below tier since if you train yourself to spot them, it's super fucking easy.
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>>163087008
You act like a lot of games don't already have surrender options that people have no fucking problem with.
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>>163087643
Only half correct. They're always inherently far harder to see than otherwise. You can be the best player in the world and it's still far harder to be aware and see cloak.
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>>163087715

Well if you want to cite whatever part of my post you drew that that from then by all means please do, but when you do could you please also add an idea of how to implement the surrender system without running into the problems I mentioned? Not to be rude but your posts seems to be targeted more at myself and not the problems I presented, which isn't really beneficial to anyone
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>>163088117
Characters are built around stealth though, so if enemy skill can diminish a characters usefulness, it will always be lower tier than characters that aren't affected as much by enemy skill.
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>>163086101
please no, it will only motivate the cancer to keep playing this game
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>S or A tier hero
>Blizzard buffs their lesser used talents without buffing good ones
>B or C tier heroes
>nerf good talents without buffing lesser ones

Who the fuck is in charge of this game and why do they not understand why this is bad
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>>163089134

>buffing good ones
nerfing*
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>>162989510
>Genn a Rogue
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>>163086621
>go zeebo on quickmeme
>have nova/alarak/abathur/tyrande
>enemy has auriel/tracer/murky/ragna/valla
>have 260 stacks on vile talent
>solo valla, ragna and tracer and kill them while taking their forts because my teammates are retarded
>rest of team dies to murky and auriel
>abathur goes mines build (lol) and does nothing during the whole match
>repeat this during the whole match
>hit 30 min
>say fuck it
>watch them struggle against the murky
>they get baited into a lava wave with no effort when chasing murky
>abathur was too focused on his mines to dodge the wave
>laught my ass off as everyone was bitching "ur a scrub, u suck"
>end up as mvp anyways
Fucking hell m8
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>>163087187
There's a reason why she's one of the least picked heroes in the game now. Her and Greymane. It's a shame because they are both fun.
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>enemy team has Gazlowe, Genn or Sonya
>stroke my huge cock, because I get a free win
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>>163091453
Sometimes though gazlowe autists are pretty good
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Azmodan talent rework fucking when?
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>>163094937
Why? He's good right now.
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>>163094937
Azmodan's wife when

>be a brutish dumbass
>talk like a shitty disney villain
>fat as fuck

>still has a hot as fuck loving and caring wife

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>163086101
>can't surrender until 20 in that one game
>average hots game lasts around 20

How would it work, anyways? Four out of five agree, or all five?

>>163094937

He already got one, just like Gazlowe. We probably won't see more tweaks for a while, if ever.
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>tfw Holy Ground will never be part of Tyrael's base kit
>tfw he will always be mana starved
>tfw damage Tyrael will never be viable
>tfw Judgement will always be a bronze tier ult
>tfw no more battle momentum never ever
>tfw Tyrael will never be a solid solo warrior

I just want to kick ass as best angel

Malthael/Imperius can't come soon enough
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For some reason I can't play valla as well with her deputy skin as her other skins, I think it's the sound effect of her auto attack that throws me off.
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>>163096384
>tfw you are bronze as fuck and think Tyrael isn't viable.
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>>163097185
it's autism
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>>163097185
I don't know what is but I land way more drains with Space Lord Leoric than Master or base.
I feel retarded when I miss half my grips.
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>>163097536

I know that Tyrael is viable, I just wish he was better and more fun.
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>>163097971
>can't find a good tankbro to duo "tank" as Arthas, Artanis, or Zarya with
One day.
One day.
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>>163097913

leoric looks pretty retarded whenever he misses a grip to be fair

has to sit there while the animation finishes then take the wake of shame back to a safe spot
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>>163097913
Yeah I feel I play him a lot better with the space leoric skin as well.
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>artanis in every single fucking match
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>>163099118
His time has finally come!
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>>163099118
>getting an Uther as my support
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post some auriel pls
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>>163099253
>Master skin didn't just give him a giant floating dome and new b animation
They should put a bit more effort into master skins, I get that with the new way xp bonuses work most people are getting to 10 in less than a week but 10,000 gold still takes a while to farm up if you don't play 5 matches a day.
For people who don't want to pay $50 to have access to a larger hero pool that gold is a lot better used elsewhere, so there's no real incentive to getting the master skin, especially since the majority of the time ALL THE EXTRA SHIT THEY TACK ON MESHES WITH BASE ANIMATIONS
I mean, have you seen the way Master Rag's horn goes straight through his pauldron?
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>getting GM like riding a bicycle.
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>>163099717
This is actually rule 63 Tyreal
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http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Ragnaros/Ragnaros%20-%20Default/RagnarosBase_IntroResponse_Thrall00.mp3
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>>163099752
>more effort into master skins

Ehh, I don't know. Master skins existing at all is pretty swell, and the free tints is just icing on the cake.

>>163099846

Oh, nice. What have you been playing?
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>>163100095
>those Rag and Mura interactions
Not even wolves get that savage.
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>meta has shifted away from Li Li for so long people don't know how to play against her
>niggers try to 1v1 me thinking I'm Morales
>I send them running like bitches when I whoop their ass
>finish them with water dragon

feels good boys
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I just played my first HOTS game. Am I allowed to post here? What hero is good? I played Valla
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Jesus christ, how badly did they nerf falstad? I hadn't touched him for a couple months in ranked and just picked him up on dragon shire diamond league. Got absolutely annihilated by zera all fucking game, talented into barrel roll and he would still manage to 80->0 me right in front of my tower in a matter of seconds. Have the same amount of damage as my tanks and absolutely no team fight presence outside of gust. On top of that, a stupid fucking global on an immense cooldown to make me feel useful
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>>163101175
>Am I allowed to post here?
depends on whether or not you'll try to come across as some know-it-all kinda guy

>What hero is good?
the most recently released hero usually is
valla is okay, she used to be a lot worse
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>>163101175

This game has a "meta", a few meme heroes that are rarely if ever good, and everything else is just counter picking.

If you're new I'd suggest someone like Raynor, Valla, Li Li, Muradin, ETC, Gazlowe, Falstad.

These are some of the most simple and straight forward heroes in the game and will help you get a grasp of the mechanics.
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>>163101051
The only time the meta has ever been LiLi is when Water Serpent was bugged. Such a garbage hero.
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>>163101051
Can Li Li solo heal? I want to play her little panda ass in ranked but I also don't want to be a dragon build cancer tumor who can't heal for shit
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how do I not feel like a useless healbot when I play Rehgar

I know I'm supposed to be up front with the fighters but I'm squishy as fuck
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>>163101313

Fly cooldown was nerfed, that's about it. Zera and Nova are hard counters to him for obvious reasons.
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>>163101175
Yes Valla is one of the better assassins in the game right now.
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>>163101361
She was pretty op on release
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>>163101361

She has a place, it's just not a very good one right now.

She's still probably the best support to pick into AA heavy teams. That's about all she has going for her atm.
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>>163101485
rehgar feels a lot better to me now that he's got those buffs
don't just engage and get your shit kicked in, try and pick off wounded targets before they can flee
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>>163101607
>picking lili for AA reliant teams
>when reghar bl is fucking beast
Lili is only good for porn.
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>>163101768
fuck off furfag
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>>163101768

If the enemy team is heavy AA, that is.
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>>163101607
Not really because her healing is still lack luster even vs a AA heavy team. Just pick Johanna and get a good support.
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>>163101175

That's always going to be down to personal opinion, there's a person in this thread who topped hero damage among other things as an auto attack talented Tyrande, that doesn't necessarily make her a good hero. I love Abathur and tend to do well with him but I wouldn't necessarily call him a good hero either

Like the OP says, try out all the free to play heroes and find ones that you like, try different talent options to see what works, try to make your talents fit with the group you're in (takes practice) and ask around for different build ideas since some aren't necessarily the most obvious (Auto Attack Muradin, Dragon/Serpent Li-Li, etc;)
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>>163101901

Like I said, she has a place but not a great one. She's Uther tier basically, which is a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of support who can only do really well in coordinated situations if the stars align and all other options are not available.

I still like her and think she's fun, although not at all optimal.
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>>163101483

Yes, although I think her strongest position is that of the off-support. Build into W, and ideally picked into Raynor, Thrall, Butcher, etc.
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Utherfags of the general, how do I play this trashcan hero?
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What do you guys think of Rehgar now? Is he still trash?
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>>163102528
well met
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>>163102528
>Step 1
Choose the red tint for the base skin
>Step 2
Choose an aggressive mount, like a wolf or something with a red tint
>Step 3
-Fist of Justice
-Boundless Conviction
-Holy Fire
-Divine Storm
-Holy Shock
-Redemption/Divine Hurricane
>Step 4
Lose miserably
>Step 5
Go on the forums and demand for a rework
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>>163102528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzxYA4K9qH0
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>>163102528
You either become healslut and walk around hammering people or become full retard paladin and hammer people even harder.
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>>163103163

He does need one though.

Piano Uther needs to die.
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>>163102528
You pick another support
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>>163102528
diVIinee STOOrM
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Diablo nerfs when?
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>win 5 of the first 6 placement matches
>"Surely I won't go 5/5 for the third time!"
>Get stomped next 4 games
Dunno why I ever put my hopes up
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What is it with /hotsg/ and pretending to think heroes which require autistic min max to be viable like Uther are """good""". If you want to go down that route, lets obsess over the fact that any medivh with a brain is a free win in ranked right now
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>>163104816
No one actually thinks Uther is good right now. Him and Li Li are fighting for worst support in the game.
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>>163104816
>/hotsg/ is one person
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>>163104932

Li Li is at least better than Tyrande and Tassadar
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>>163106102
Depending on the team comp I'd rather have Tyrande. Tassadar maybe not.
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>>163104816
Uther is one of the worst supports right now, probably one of the worst heroes in the game
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>>163101483
Yes. If you don't know how to play a healer, Lili is the Retard Mode healer since you only need to stand near them and press the button to heal.
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>>163103163
>Choose the red tint for the base skin
That's not how you spell JUDGEMENT
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>>163106603
>exchanging actual usable currency for skin in video game
>in hots
>for one of the weakest heroes
>in hots

lmao
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>>163106880
He probably got it when uther was playable
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>>163108443
Yeah, over a year ago when he was still good.
He was the first character I got to level 10. I can still barely play him anymore, it hurts to see him be so bad.
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ysera when
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>>163109687
hopefully after maiev
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>>163110002

so 3-4 weeks after literally never
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I just watched a Ragnaros literally wipe a team 1v5 with Molten Core (Heroic Difficulty) and Lava Wave. They couldn't dodge wave because they were making a core push and there's no time to react when it's that close.
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STUKOV WHEN?
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>>163110494
>not killing Ragnaros before the core push

stoopid much???
>>
souldbinder female draenei when
rengari female draenei when
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>Samuro doing nothing but PvE all game
>Teamfight within vision distance while he's killing minions
>We predictably lose
>"lol u guys fucking suck"

Why don't these people go play a PvE game like LeL or something?
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Haunted memes is back and is actually fun.
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>>163110002
I seriously cannot believe they haven't put maiev in the game, and that chinese rip off put maiev in there game.

Wtf is hots even doing?
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>>163110542
>probably no teaser until January
what's the point

>>163110736
>pve game like lel
low quality meme
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>>163110736
every Samuro player is like that. no exceptions.
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how do i play li ming
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>>163110817
Hit people with your abilities
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>>163110760
Chinese Maiev is cute CUTE!
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>>163110817

Hit your abilities on enemy Heroes, preferably the squishy ones.

>>163110736

Ignoring players and killing minions/structures gets you surprisingly high, not that the Diamond III fresh out of placements helps.
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>>163110760
Maiev is in the game.
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>>163110990
No, thats a dead protoss and is not Fenix.
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>>163110760
wc3 is still very popular in china so it makes sense the knockoff would use her.
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I can't wait for that Murky rework.
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Illida is a cuck?
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>>163111824

He was cucked for 10,000 years by his own brother
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give me even one single reason to not ban li-ming every game
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>>163112162
of all the bullshit heroes you could ban
why ming
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>>163110749
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>>163112305
Scrubs are too stupid to deal with her.
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>>163112305
She is pretty op when someone is good with her, still the strongest of the mages
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>>163112951

Yeah, in the right hands. Flash as a basic ability is pretty good, turns out.

>>163112918

Scrubs are too stupid to play her, too. Depends on the MMR of the match, but she's a pretty reasonable teammate ban.
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>>163111824
I mean not really. Tyrande was never with him after all. More like he's the loser that wanted the Cheerleader that his older and more popular brother got.
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>>163112918
>dealing with a long range mobile assassin
the only way to deal with her is to never get hit by her spells
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>>163113161
Or be Chen. Chen ruins her.
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>>163113161

>Alarak fucks her
>Tracer fucks her
>Lunara fucks her
>Chen fucks her
>Nazeebo fucks her
>Illidan fucks her

And I'm probably not thinking of a few.
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How to spec Zarya and which ulti?
Is she shit?
>>
>>163113793

She's S tier right now
Either ult is good depending on your team comp and map. Maps with tight passages and jugnles go for blocking field, team has a good wombo combo or a lot of mages, go grav bomb.
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Did you know:

Maiev had a crush on Malfurion and watched the slut Tyrande win his heart

And now she is guarding a cuck, what a terrible fate
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>When you report someone for intentionally dying but you know they were really just bad
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>>163113067
But shes literally one of the easiest mages to play. She's boring as fuck.

I hate the role of ranged mage. But Ming is my "Oh fuck we need a mage in this comp" pocket pick if I cant be Kael.

I have a positive winrate and my strategy is:

>throw purple orb and try to hit from the side so tanks dont block it
>Stack best spell shield in the game out the asshole
Teamfight:

Step one: Does butcher Exist?
If Yes : Be near wall or stay too far back for him to dive without over extending.
Did Butcher Dive you? Yes: Teleport over wall
Did Butcher Leash you? : Too bad you deserve a fat red devil cock stuff into your mage-hole

Did Something die? Throw Orb. Didnt die: Throw orb.

is some people low and far away? Beam

Are you not currently throwing a purple orb? Throw purple orb.

You can become a Ming shot pro in one match sense you get to toss missile every 3 seconds and orb every 8.

It's not like stitches where its a 16 sec cooldown and there are negative repercussions for hitting the wrong thing. You missed? What the fuck ever, a viking will die and throw it again.

You get to toss an Azmodan sized bullet every 8 seconds.

I recommend Ming to anyone who needs a "I don't like mages but sometimes I have to mage"

Not like Kael or jaina where you need actual positioning.
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>New Hero released
>1 on every team in every game
>Their one is a master of the hero, probably played it on PTR, has tried out every talent and combination and knows what to pick and when to use their abilities to perfection
>The one on your team is a Hearthstone Player who got bored of buying packs so logged onto hots and put the latest EPIC HERO BUNDLE :DDDDD and has no idea what he's doing

Why does this happen every single fucking time a new hero comes out?
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>>163114376
i mean that one gucci fellow died 37 didn't he
in addition to doing 0 damage

not sure if they ban for inting unless you declare it in chat lmao
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>>163114254
I don't believe this story you're telling me.
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>>163114542
It's from the books, anon.
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>>163114502

Yeah, that's what I thought. Kind of.
Jaina has a significantly higher win rate at nearly every MMR, though.

>wait for enemy team to stack
>hit all your buttons
alternatively
>put ring somewhere
>hit all your buttons on the player(s) who got hit or ran to the middle
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>>163114737
Can you be a tad bit more specific.
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>>163113793
Zarya has arguably the most diverse talent choices in the game. She only has four bad talents (To the Limit, Particle Shock, and her lvl 20 ult upgrades). Disregarding those you can literally pick any talent you want and still do good because you can so easily build around the enemy team.

Both of her ults are good, but I prefer Graviton Surge.
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>>163113548
When you say nazeebo fucks her you have no idea what you are talking about, alarak can't even get to her and she one shots lunara and lunara can't even get in range of her. The only ones that can get to her are tracer and illidan because they are more mobile.
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>>163114504
Stop playing QM you fucking idiot.
If you don't want to deal with the stress of ranked, unranked draft is a fucking godsend to allow you to compose proper teams and have no doubling up of heroes.
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>>163114801
That is because she has a low pick rate. The people who pick her most of the time are people who are good with her, li-ming is far and away a stronger mage but she is picked like 3 times as much as jaina.
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>>163114801
Scrubs are to dumb not to blow Blizzards cooldown everytime they see a minion wave though.

With Ming there is basically no conseqeunces for blowing things.

With Jaina you blow Blizzard, there goes the damage for the teamfight. try and throw a good cone and Ice spike to redeem yourself.
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I don't know why anyone goes Widowmakers on Naz. The sheer utility of the extra range on Thing of the Deep is just so fucking valuable in almost every situation. Especially so if you can't really trust your peel to guard you considering Naz's inherently short range.
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>>163102690

Rehgar is top support in masters right now and highly popular.

I have no idea how this works. I thought his damage buff wouldn't make a notable difference.

I'd be so shit at balancing this game.
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>someone complains I banned rag because they wanted to play him
>they are last pick
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>>163115151
It's particularly interesting because if I were to have buffed him, it would have been in the mobility area, his Chain Heal talents, and his level 20s. I never would have thought to buff his damage of all things, though I guess it makes sense considering he;'s meant to be the most aggressive Support.
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>lvl 14
>choose 3 literally nothings
>lvl 16
>WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MAKE ME CHOOSE BETWEEN LONG HOOK AND SLAM SLOW

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
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LOL IM MEDIVH IM GONNA FLY AROUND LIKE A FAGGOT AND THEN PREVENT YOU FROM EVER KILLING ANYONE HAHA
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>>163116069
>oh no teammate in trouble!!!!
>invuln
>portal
outplayed them didnt we :)
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>>163116069
>Be stitches
>Medivh on team
HAHA fuck you I have gorge + Bolt at lvl 10, Medivh is the best Specialist!

>Medivh on enemy team
>Saves gorged enemy with door

FUCK MEDIVH HE'S GODDAM CANCER!
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>>163116069
eu?
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Sick plays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLLK9Cfa6Dw

Video courtesy of Chaz
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They should have nerfed Ragnaros as fast as they nerfed Zarya. This is worse than release Tracer and Samuro.
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>>163117115
What's so bad about him? He really does not seem nearly as much of an issue. He's incredibly vulnerable to burst, which is fucking rampant in this game now.
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>>163117115
They won't do any balancing until after they get back from Christmas break, which will be mid January. Lunara was released broken and buggy with a <20% winrate for over a month last yeah
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>>163115640

Rehgar still can't even ult heal himself, making him a priority target. His damage buff requires melee range making him an easy target.

His damage should hardly matter as a solo support. I don't get it. Is it his lightning shield what's responsible for this?
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>>163117936
Considering they only buffed his AA, and his Lightning Shield damage, and it's not like he relies on his bites for anything, I'd say it likely is the Lightning Shield buff, yeah. Everyone is going full LS, even the one that gives him an untalented LS, so I'm assuming it's just the sheer offensive power of sandwiching people between two LSs, it also helps that the mana refund talent for LS was buffed so it may as well cost 20 mana, which is huge for his mana pool.
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>when you're first pick but you don't actually like playing any of the hotly contested meta champs
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>>163117936
Reghar is meant to roam and gank, thats why he has a tiny range totem and the wolf talent that increases his regen and reduced cooldowns for extended encounters or camp clearing.
>>
diablo is op
>>
>>163118860
>being able to swap picks in draft
>being able to swap position in draft

It'd be sort of nice.
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>>163118860
>Not picking Artanis.
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>played about 37 games in hl already
>haven't seen one person pick muradin aside from when I did like 3 times
is he bad now? even when like etc, diablo and johanna are all banned out people don't pick the guy
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>>163117217
Absolute unparalleled defense potential; he can make the objective just about worthless on some maps (Braxis). It's almost impossible to get a push going against him if your teams are on equal footing.

Also being vulnerable to burst is bullshit; you could say that about basically any non-tank hero. Ragnaros arguably has the least problem with burst among melee assassins because he gets to have spell block at level fucking 4.
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i just wanna play quick match to get heroes to level 5 and not have to deal with faggotry

trying to kill a medic with diablo and anubarak around is fucking dumb

diablo is fucking dumb
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>>163110542
I just started playing him in the SC2 co-op. I really like the way he plays, but I don't see how that will translate to HotS unless you want to let him infest buildings and spawn tons of little shits.
Actually, I really want to see that now.
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>>163120142
>tfw just finished a game where I solo tanked Varian against a Diablo and won

Fuck yeah.
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>>163120591
Maybe do like Aba and that his trait is to infest buildings that spawn certain units and after a time they start spawning at an accelerated rate or something.
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We have Abathur, who acn symbiote forts and turrets. Ragnaros can inhabit forts and keeps.

We need a hero that can inhabit wells. Like Neptulon or something, who can inhabit a well or where a well used to be, acting as a secondary fountain or maybe just creating a healing station that doesn't use up the fountain CD or something.
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>>163113548
Welp, now I need to go to the drawfag thread to ask drawings of each one of those fucking her
>>
>>163120591
>>163121254
fuck off with your minion spawning shit which just bloats the battlefield even further
>>
Where is the next in-development video? I want to know if it's worth saving up 15k.
>>
>>163122761
Not until January. Everyone gets a big break for Christmas time.

Except the poor monkeys who have to hang out at HQ in case an emergency occurs.
>>
So is Reghar good again? or is he just neutral?
I know the BL is now good for AA teams, I had a braw with a Reg, Illidan and Valla on the enemy team, basically the activation of BL was the lube for the incoming ass fucking that we were about to receive
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>queue up quick meme as tyrande
>game about to begin
>i'm the only support
>alt+f4 during the countdown
>game gets aborted
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TrapGod's boipussy just got rekt
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>>163123470

speak english you fucking donkey
>>
is there going to be a real christmas sale?
>>
>>163120591
Should probably look at how he plays in that mission of Heart of the Swarm where you control him.

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Alexei_Stukov_(StarCraft_II)
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sorry about the quality of the last video i made of POX, hopefully this one is a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNLKej26hWE&feature=youtu.be
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i really like playing muradin

is he a hindrance in ranked
>>
>>163125056
he's still pretty good in ranked
>>
I want to like Dehaka, I really do, especially since he's apparently been made pretty viable as of late. Does anyone have any base builds to work with? I mean it might be because I'm one of those shitters who spends their time milling about in AI while waiting for a computer that can consistently run the game properly, but he's just not one of those heroes I can seem to build in a way that feels useful.

Is it just because I'm doing AI games, or is there a specific build for that?
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>Not played HoTS in a long time
>Get conned into playing it again with friends
>Do the brawl
>Oh hey Arthas, I remember liking him
>Mfw

Holy shit he's so much fucking better than I remember, he got a pretty big rework I guess?

How good is he in actual ranked situations?
>>
>>163126540
>Mfw
>no face

He works well as a secondary warrior and can put out a lot of damage, so he's pretty good. But the thing is if I were to pick a secondary warrior for my team I'd pick Zarya or Leoric or even Dehaka honestly.
>>
I am so tired of losing games because a guy goes AFK because he has to feed the dog or help his family set up the table or something.
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wow snoipah is a gigantic faggot
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>>163126253

pick dehaka only as a second tank

splitpush and take camps until your team cries then press Z and teleport to teamfights
>>
WHAT
>>
>>163124351
Hmm. With that Regeneration Aura, that would mean he could be a Zerg support.
So you could run him, Kerrigan, Dehaka, Zagara and Abathur.
Don't think that'd be very viable, but it mite be fun.
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>>163126941
That's what happens when you play on weekends. You get all the little kids who live with their parents.
Play during the week and get all the basement-dwelling adults who live with their parents.
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>>163125032
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>>163128462
He'd be 70/30 mix of support and specialist.
>>
>Enemy team has Abathur, Ragnaros, and Kael
>literally impossible to push lanes

Gee that was a fun 30 minutes of my life
>>
>>163129063
>they took 30 mins to push with that team
How did you lose to those shitters?
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An illustration drawn by BigDingo for Ipwnlocks.
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>>163129502
Nova, Alarak, Zeratul, and Tyrande

We murdered them in every team fight but our push with all the minions and mercs killed by Lava wave was so dogshit that they just eventually won
>>
>>163129575
>BigDingo

kill yourself
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>>163127814
We had all Sonyas. It was pretty great.
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>>163130667
>>163130667

New whenever
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Diablo's kinda cool I guess.

He's broken though
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>>163130706
>40 posts early
don't ever make a thread again you dumb nigger
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>>163130761
>40:46
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>>163131041
Double ragnaros with double lava wave upgrade at 20.

Nobody could ever end because minions ceased to exist. One of the least fun games I've ever fucking played.
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>>163130956

>page 10 constantly

Who gives a shit you fuckboy
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>>163128950
Sounds right. He could be a multi-class with a split at level 10 to give him a better way to heal or the infest building talent to push him into full specialist territory.
>>
>>163131279
sure by that logic let's make the thread as early as 600 or 500 posts
fact of the matter is that making threads this early encourages people to start posting in the other one just for the sake of it (apart from a few people who want to see this one to 750 posts) which effectively clutters up the board with one more unnecessary thread

so yes, make threads at 740-750+ posts because otherwise it sets a bad precedent faggot
>>
>>163131417
He can't use his two unit-summoning abilities co-op as heroics though as they'd be too close to Raynor and Kerrigan's heroics.

Infest structure could work as a base for a specialist heroic, though I'm not sure what would work for a support heroic.
>>
>>163132496
Creep tumors that heal when you're on the creep. Stukov can pop them to give a larger heal or take talents to slow, or damage the enemies. That they're player triggered would separate them from Abathur's mines.
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>>163119685
I think people have forgotten that Muradin is really fucking good.

He's amazing on Braxis with third wind.

>Cap point
>Soak damage for team
>Down to 15% hp
>Go to help top
>100% by the time you get there
>repeat

I feel You can kind of get away with Haymaker + Skullcracker now that Avatar just gives HP.

People forget that late game Haymaker drops like 800 damage, I use it as a finisher often.
>>
>>163132672
Creep tumors are also Zagara's trait.
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>>163132839
Fuck Zagara. Delet shit zerg slut.
>>
>>163132496
>Kerrigan ever picking Ultralisk
They could just remove that shit from her, give her an actually good ultimate, and give him the Apocalisk
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>>163135437
>Kerrigan having Ultralist

I'm not a Kerrigan player, but it just doesn't seem like it suits her kit. Why doesn't Zagara have it?
Seems almost like they could swap Maw and Ultra, or give access to three.

buff my zergfu pls
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>>163135713
Honestly I would like a talent to pair up with the serrated spines one that increases attack speed when inside the creep on top of the extra range and speed.
>>
>>163135713
fuck man, zagara was so good before her shitty rework. They made her so useless and weak, it breaks my heart
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>>163125032
>look hotstards i pressed R
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>>163136262
Yeah, that shitty rework made her so useless and weak that she was first pick/ban in HL and dominated winrates until she got nerfed a couple times.
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>>163136262

Her rework was...something, but it definitely didn't leave her weak. The number changes that came afterwards did that.
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>>163129575
D I G B I N G O
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>play hots on the weekend
>go 5-20 in hl
ebin
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>>163139664
>five weekend randoms on other team
>four weekend randoms on your team

hm
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>>163139912
>positive winrate when playing during the week
>each game is nice, some people missplay but no obvious trolling or shitpicks
>negative winrate during the weekend
>each game there's a retard, sometimes it's me
makes me think
>>
>>163140185
>Playing Muradin on point keeping Kael, Malf and Valla Tied up and less effective away from the fight
>Entire team fight Valla manages only to pop a Siphon shot at our team
>Valla misses her Ult on me and Kael uses Phonix on just me
>Entire team dies in a boss fight because Zeratul and Artanis did ???? while my fight was happening
>Entire team wipes but I jump to safety
>WHERE THE FUCK WAS MURADIN?
>FUCKING IDIOT!

>Xul on Tomb of Faggot Quenn
>Accidentally keep pushing to much as nobody seems to be stopping me at bottom
>Get all the way to last gate and drain it of bullets
>Realize team is in a teamfight at top of map
>No way I can get up there in time to make a difference
>Keep pushing
>My team kills four of the enemies and nobody dies
>Pushing to hard forget diablo can fuck me
>Diablo out of nowhere shadow charges a minions so as to not knock me back
>lifts me over gate
>Well played nigga
>My team:Why is Xul never here? Other teammate: Its okay Xul took the first tower and two towers, Its good for Xul to split a little and he made more exp than he lost

I should just play stupidly from now on.
>>
>literally dead
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