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War chief keef edition
https://youtu.be/WzVotiqkkpk
>What's happening?
Everyone is waiting for nost2.0 which will be hosted by Valkyrie and run by the original Nost team. We're currently waiting on server release.

>When is the release?
December 17th, (18:00 GMT+1/12PM EST) for the OLD server. 3-4 weeks after the NEW server will be released which we will be playing on.

>OLD NOST PvP and PvE(Name: Nostalrius PvP/Nostalrius PvP)
These will have all your old level 60 chars for nostalgia's sake. Will be released on Dec 17. (No one will roll here)

>NEW NOST PvP (Name: Elysium PvP)
Brand new server, will be released 3-4 weeks after old nost. (We will be rolling here.)

>What faction are we rolling?

Horde discord: https://discord.gg/WPF7uMP

Alliance discord: https://discord.gg/tZZ6Qg


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>Server homepage
https://elysium-project.org/
>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vanillagaming.org
>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vplxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit
>Nos Pre-Bis
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j81TgG0p_HrYKajiUiQfYIoSUx1culzy2u_Fc4wtiS8/edit#gid=329725463
>Leveling Specs
http://imgur.com/a/aNm8V#0
>Big Addon Pack
http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/3573-vanilla-112-addons-download/

tags: wpsg vag wowg world of warcraft

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Please understand.
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remember to always treat night elf girls with respect and kindess
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>>162790740
Fug. Previous: >>162755861
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4th for my pal _______
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Cutting your dick off is just a natural thing. As natural as breathing, really. Just look at Americans, they already go partway as a society.
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Reminder that Nelf Priest is the best Priest because it lets you shadowmeld+drink mid-raid
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Tirisfal > Mulgore > Dun Mourgh > Elwynn > Durotar > Teldrassil
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I'm rolling a Warlock
Can someone post some sort of gear guide for while I'm leveling?
I remember these existing back in the day, even had links to thottbot and shit
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>>162790848
*unless they're priests
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Hey nard you're a cunt
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I can't fucking log in lads
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>>162791053
Mulgore is terrible. The only benefit to playing there is that it's empty compared to the other two horde starting zones.
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>>162791053
could you be anymore wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMguMnsyak
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>Staff said verification would be fixed today
>Still no verification
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>>162791226
NE zones are objectively bad. Only thing the race is good for is being green'd
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>>162791449
Just get a new email you cuck.
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>>162791226
Why do you think so many lowbie nelves bitch about running through Wetlands? Teldrassil and Darkshore are shit.
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>>162791614
>he wants his account flagged and banned
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>>162791614
If I can't trust these people to send me an email I'm certainly not going to trust them with investigating me for account sharing.
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>>162791226
The layout of the zone is shit you faggot
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Why is my shit still trying to connect to Kronos despite me changing the realmlist REEEE
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>>162790740
>wowg in tags

Can't stay relevant lol?
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>>162792651
Get out Legion shill lmao.
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>>162792642
The name on the login screen is the last server you connect to (Part of the config.wtf file), not the server you're currently connecting to.
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>>162792737
>Legion has 8 million players
>Nost has maybe 30k at best; most are chinks
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>>162792651
nost is wow

current wow is a pay to play retard containment centre
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>>162791960
So much this. Everything is wrong with Night Elf starting zones.
>skinning trainer practically all the way to Darnassus
>all the first quests are "kill x" so it's over-saturated and you can't get anything
>best XP quest requires you to go to a furlbog den of death and the nearest graveyard is so far away everything inside it respawns
>completely isolated from all the cool kids on the Eastern Kingdoms
>Wetlands is bland and boring
>quest rewards are shit
>you don't get any leather quest rewards for boots or bracers all the way to level 20
>quest difficulty suddenly spikes from level 14 to level 18
>no one to group with because no one wants to level in Darkshore
>all Darkshore quests are spread all across the country, even fetch quests and quest chains
>awful flight paths, especially in Ashenvale which should be home territory
>literally getting ganked running from Auberdine to Astranaar from groups heading to BFD
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>>162792875
>Legion has 1.8 million players
>Nost has 50k players, and they do it for free
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>>162792887
Nice meme
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>>162792860
It keeps saying my details are incorrect even though I can log in to the Elysium website FUCK
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Who /crestfall/ here?
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>>162792875
>MUH 8 million

Oy vey
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>>162792976
Uhhhh first number still bigger lmao
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>>162792973
my favorite nelf starter quest is that one where you need to pick up a book or something, and there's only one book with like a 5 minute respawn and there's always a million players camping it

fun zone
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>>162793175
SHUT UP HUMMIE
REMEMBER ALL THOSE GOBLINS WHO WERE GASSED BY GNOMISH MADMEN
NEVER FORGET THE 6 GORILLION
GIVE US GOLD TO PROTECT OUR LAND FROM VILE CENTAUR AND PIGSHITS THAT WE'RE ENCROACHING ON
WE ARE TRULY THE ORCS' GREATEST ALLY
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>>162793279
You win this round, Atheist.
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c-china... it's bad... they s-sell gold! I know it! I have proof but I won't show you...
w-WE! WE! NEED to remove all c-china... so... so we can KILL RAG!
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Post UI!
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>>162793285
Was RaF in vanilla? I remember at some point I RaF some friends and we used the teleport to get all the NE characters to elwynn.
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>>162793381
That's awful. You're awful. I don't even know your name and I hate you.
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>>162793391
RaF was TBC or WotLK
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<Avast>

[Horde] Hardcore/Oceanic (International friendly) / Player-verse-Player

Site: http://avastguild.shivtr.com/

Discord: https://discord.gg/ASWhxf8

Recruitment post: https://forum.elysium-project.org/index.php?showtopic=24015
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>>162793381
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>>162793381
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>>162793443
>That's awful.
Why, is your mother in it?
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>>162793381
2/5
>>162793536
2/3
>>162793616
4/5
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>>162791062
Please respond
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>>162793616
What the fuck
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>>162793536
>no small space between screen borders and UI
>questie
>3d portraits
6/10
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>>162793734
int,stam and shadow damage gear isnt it?
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>>162791062
>>162793734
Get Shadoweave.
Stop worrying until you hit 60 and need to get BiS.
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>>162793391
Raf came in late in tbc
2.3 or 2.4
I remember because I made my IRL friend to buy the game 1 week before they announce RAF
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>>162793734
Warlocks don't really have to worry about gear at all while leveling. +shadow damage gear is great though get it when you can
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Qt troll mage or qt troll shaman?
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>>162793789
Yep but I wanted something more spoonfeed, like go level here, do this quest, run this Dungeon...
I dont want to work the dB.vanilla site everytime, and its filtersnare shit, can't for the heck of me sort shit by shadow dmg
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>>162794026
qt trolls don't exist so neither
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>>162794026
Mage because you'll be out-performed by orcs and tauren when it comes to shaman.

>>162794058
Get.
Fucking.
Shadoweave.
And.
Stop.
Worrying.
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>>162794105
>not liking those meaty troll legs
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>>162794110
Trolls are the best shamans though
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>>162794289
>no +5% stamina
>no stun resist
>no warstomp
>no bloodfury+windfury
>"best"
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>>162794105
They have 1 really pretty face that makes them the qtest!
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>>162794026
Mage is pretty chill
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>>162794348
Why would any of that matter as a healslut class?
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>>162794348
>pvp
XD
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>>162794110
Don't bully, I just wanted to do an optimazed run ;_;
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>>162794425
hi alex
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>>162794348
>>no +5% stamina
>>no stun resist
Shamans heal not tank

>no warstomp
I guess this is kinda useful sometimes

>no bloodfury+windfury
For those big healing numbers am I right?
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>>162794348
but then you can't
>grenade
>fire nova totem
>berserking
>lightning bolt
>chain lightning
>frost shock
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>>162794468
http://www.joanasworld.com/azeroth.htm#1
http://www.oocities.org/iliektosuxit/?201613
There's your optimization.
Get Shadoweave.
The game is 13 years old.
You should know this.
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>>162794289
Stun resist is too good at raping rogues

I guarantee every rogue that goes to gank you will be breathing a huge sigh of relief at you not being at orc.
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>>162794631
BUT THAT HEALTH REGEN THO
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>muh stun resist
>relying on meme RNG procs
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>>162794726
>playing shaman
>not going all in on the RNG bullshit
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>>162794726
>playing rng procs - the class
>memeing at the class for relying on other rng numbers outside of the class itself
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>>162794726
t. ally rogue
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>>162794774
>>162794785

>mfw using WF with a dagger
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>>162794546
I played plate and mail all my life, and had some breaks, memory fails a lot
I'll check the links, thanks
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>>162794929
>Gate of Babylon
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>mace rogue bis rogue
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what is going on here
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>>162795338
pic will explain
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Guys /wowg/ is making fun of us again
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>>162795541
What are they even saying?

>those losers don't get to play the second worst expansion yet lmao

????
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If i want to play vanilla and level up with my 2 brothers should i just play on kronos 2 or wait 2 days
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>2004
>be warrior with arcanite reaper when full valor+ arcanite reaper was BiS
>rogue stunlocks me and I survive it
>mfw I turn around
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>>162795541
Just remember that they're paying Blizzard $15 a month to laugh at us, and then realize how pathetic that is.
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what class is good for messing around and pvping with 400 ping?
a dot class like spriest or lock sounds good but i've never played vanilla
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>>162795662
surviving rogue ganks make my dick hard
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Did Bloodlust, or whatever the Orc racial was called, have a spell bonus for caster classes?
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>>162795747
Any DoT works. UD Spriest would work best for you since you can't VW Shield out of it with horrible ping.

>>162795781
No, Bloodfury only boosts AP.
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>>162793381
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>>162795781
dont believe so
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>>162795747
Undead Spriest. Your dots alone can kill a lot of people, and your main active damage spell is a channel.
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is rolling on kronos 2 until fresh server releases a good idea
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>>162795781
It only boosts melee attack power
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>>162795848
>>162795885
thanks anons guess ill roll a spriest
why undead though? will of the forsaken?
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>>162795982
Horrible idea. You'll burn yourself out of leveling. If you have to make sure you play on the opposite faction of where you plan on rolling on Nost so the quest chains aren't the same, and play a slow-leveling class so you don't get too committed to Kronos.
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>>162795982
if you want to play singleplayer
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>>162795857
how do i get your ui
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>>162796065
Undead priests get an extra DoT spell that is really good.
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>>162796065
DEVOURING
PLAGUE
Devouring Plague
Rank 6
985 mana
30 yd range
Instant
Afflicts the target with a disease that causes 904 Shadow damage over 24 sec. Damage caused by the Devouring Plague heals the caster.
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>>162793381
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>>162796076
rolling on ally casually then going for horde on fresh ok?
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>>162796065
that and devouring plague which is the undead priest racial spell its a disease dot
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>>162796065
Be sure to go femdead because of the casting animations
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>>162796203
*stoneforms*

...heh ...nice try kidd
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>>162796307
You can't go wrong with either UD casting animations. Femdeads only have better melee.
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>>162795662
>get stunlocked
>switch screens
>start blasting E1M1
>Retaliate
RIP AND TEAR YER GUTS OUT
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>>162796307
ew, male ud is way better
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>>162795857
How to get ktm and dmg meters to not look like shit?
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>>162788373
played hunter from vanilla all the way up to legion

they were fine and really fun in every single patch I've ever played

then 7.0 came

haven't touched my hunter since

what a fucking joke that entire patch was, fuck this pruning bullshit
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>War chief keef edition
>Doesn't link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2TZrGkfZA
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Why are all currently usable vanilla databases so crappy?
The filters I can apply are so limited it's not even worth it. Thottbot had options to filter items that had an especific stat, if it was a world drop, Dungeon drop or quest drop, etc
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>>162796442
KTM version 17.35 looks like that by default and the damage meter is SW_stats. To chance SW_stats you have to go into the addon folder and edit the .tga images in photoshop to how you want them to look.
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>>162796846
GET
SHADOWEAVE
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>tfw no BC server
>can't play as a qt belf
>no best paladins
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>>162797182
Play some Korean MMO if you want to look like a vapid anorexic fuck doll lmao.
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>>162797264
will you boys give me your cummies??
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>>162797264
t. mad human/dwarf shitter
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>>162797182
Like half of the retail horde population is blood elves, I'm sure you will feel right at home.
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>>162797182
got on that l4g train for a while - don't regret it. good times.
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>>162797182
<BOATS> is back EVERYONE LOG IN NOW

t. cobe
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>>162797182
Honestly, leveling a blood elf was the most comfortable experience I've ever had playing WoW, even more comfy than Dun Morogh. I loved the color palette, I loved the music, I loved the ambience. The quests were done very well, thanks to Blizzard learning from their mistakes in Vanilla quest lines, and they were extremely rewarding. I loved the Ghostlands. I loved the Tranquillien items being locked by rep, teaching newcomers what the rep system can do. I loved having an entire zombie city you have to raid in to finish the quest line. I genuinely feel sorry for spacegoat cucks who have to level on
>Bloodmyst
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>>162797406
i always run to the belf area in tbc/wotlk
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>>162797406
The guys that made TBC were the same group that made wc3 tft
They knew their shit
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>>162797406
>play paladin
>have your class abilities matter before plaguelands
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>>162797406
Bloodmyst is my least favourite zone of any expansion.

Red sky, red water, red grass, red plants, red mobs. ugh.
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>>162797406
The Draenei starting zones were really awful, what were they thinking?
I would rather go to any other Alliance starting zone even if the quests were a bit more clunky to get away from that barren non atmospheric snore zone.
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>>162797827
>>162797871
BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BASED ON THE DEVASTATION CAUSED BY NUCLEAR WEAPONRY AND NUCLEAR ENERGY
DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT YOU CAPITALIST PIGS
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>>162797924
>YOU CAPITALIST PIGS

Let's go on a helicopter ride anon. Just you and me. It will be fun.
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Can I RP during raids?
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>>162798249
You can
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>>162797924
hurts my eyes to look at it too long
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>elysium re-organizes their discord
>removes guild recruitment channel
Why?
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>>162798684
Guild recruitment must now be conducted on the chinese discord as to not be racist.
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>60-60 WSG pops
>don't get queue
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>>162798775
>playing pvp
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>>162798842
>being a balding scammer who can't kill a hunter 8 levels lower than himself
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>tfw can't decide on a name
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>roll on kronos
>MOUNTAINS of bodies near the imps in durotar
is this a sign
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>>162799038
>nonameman

There you go
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>>162799038
Extrememer
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>>162798249
Absolutely. Set up a macro on your abilities that have 1 minute or longer cooldowns so you can shout chuuni as fuck shit whenever you use them. Add to the macro
PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Music\\ZoneMusic\\DMF_L70ETC01.mp3")
And you'll feel badass.
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>>162799070
Kronos spawn rates is a joke.
Imagine quest that requires killing named NPC. There is two guards around him. You came to his respawn position but he's currently dead. So you sit down and wait. Guess what? Fucking guards gonna spawn at least 4 times before named NPC appears. I waited at least 14 minutes before baron longshore finally spawned and it was even longer for defias NPC in human starting zone.
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>>162799038
Name yourself Unknown, everybody will think their client didn't load your name.
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>>162799070
the lag on kronos is so awful that it's impossible to LoS their fireballs
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>>162799323
The silk cloth quest is a living hell on Kronos. You can't even convince someone to group up with you and move just a bit farther East to where there's plenty of Defias so close together you can't solo it so you can both get done with the quest in a blink of an--

OH WAIT I FORGOT THE DROPRATE ON KRONOS IS LITERALLY SHIT
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>>162799038
Cucklordxx
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Is the Chinese problem really going to be so bad, or is it memeing? Do I put in the time on Nost 2.0 or is it going to be so bad I should wait for crestfall?
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>>162800023
It's mostly over exaggerated
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>>162800023
>Is the Chinese problem really going to be so bad, or is it memeing?

Both. It's so bad it's become the hottest nost meme.
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>>162800023
It was awful on Nostalrius but we don't know how many chinks are going to be returning and where they will be rolling.
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>>162800023
Just install chinese fonts and ChatCopy so you can understand what they're saying
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>>162800023
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>>162800023
The Chinese thing is retailers trying to disinfo us into not playing in the first place. Nostalrius got pretty much everything correct before it decided to shut itself down, and getting fucked by Blizzard despite coming to an agreement with their legal team probably has the developers out for blood to make sure Nost 2.0 is going to be the absolute best.
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*throws arcane bomb at you*
you maybe won gold war... but I just got hk >:)
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>>162800237
>die
>respawn in time for my DoTs to give HK
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>>162800209
this is the best reply
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>>162800101
>>162800180
>>162800126
I don't give a fuck if chinks are around, but do they make farming mats impossible? And do they spam channels so much you can't communicate with English speakers?
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>>162800237
*unsheathes [Might of Menethil]*
pshhh... nothin personnel... kid
*auto attacks you to death*
heh.. another victory... for the light
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>>162800398
>Might of Menethil
arcane bomb assumes that you are playing clothie retard
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>>162800371
At high levels farming is competitive regardless of NIIHAOS running amok, but it's not uncommon for YOU to be banned camping for materials while the chinks are running around pre-set paths. Also no, they don't spam chats unless you go into World, and you're cancerous if you do that in the first place.
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>>162800461
You.. assumed wrong
*bubbles*
*hearths*
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>>162800541
*logs in as undead rogue which was logged out at your hearthstone location*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FzPkYJjFTs
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>>162800687
MY ONLY WEAKNESS, NOOOOO
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>>162800687
*right-clicks portal mage friend had set up at my hearthstone location*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
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>>162800805
What does him selling his account have to do with a scammer lmao? If you ask him he'll admit he sold his character in TBC.
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>>162800805
>>162800659
>I will never be alex
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>>162800659
I just don't understand how you can be a level 25 druid without Feline Swiftness, or Feral Charge. How can he be so fucking stupid?
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>>162801123
>only get the spells you need brah
>save for the mount brah
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>>162801123
>everyone has to play the game like me
Autism
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So what kind of gear should I be using as an elemental shammy? Do I gear like a mage?
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Anyone else a girl(male) here?
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>>162801123
He's resto spec iirc
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>>162801287
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>162801319
get help
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How come people weren't nearly as autistic about race+class combinations when nost launched the first time around almost 2 years ago.

I swear all of this minmaxing is stressing you out, just enjoy the god damn game.
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>>162801332
But he literally says in the video "Anyone want to come as a healer, worst case scenario I'll heal".
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>>162801319
I'm a girl (female).
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>>162795747
Fellow Aussie bro? Get Classic Snowfall addon, it helps out with spell lag a bit.
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>>162801378
Druids are shit healers
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>>162801348
How do mages gear lol? Never played one. Lots of intellect?
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>>162801369
Because before Nost became NOST it was just another attempt at bringing back Vanilla. No one realized that it would define the standards of a GOOD private server when the only things people had up until then were Feenix. The reason people care now is because there's a sort of understanding that Nost is pretty much permanent unlike the first time it rolled around, so minmaxing is critical to make sure you don't waste time on the content.
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>>162801485
>make sure you don't waste time on the content.
there is no such thing
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>>162801287
>elemental shammy
You don't want to do that before TBC.
You think you do but you don't.
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My IQ is 55. : (
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>>162801475
Spellpower > INT > STA

>>162801574
Insta-critting is fun for ganking Southshore desu senpai
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>>162801123

What is there not to understand? he is incredibly stupid
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>nostalrius is good
Wew. Can't wait for broken engineering and bugged rage generation guys!
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what class should I play if I want to be unkillable but don't want to be alliance?

warlock?
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>>162801694
good or bad broken/bugged?
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>>162801735

tauren shaman
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>>162801694
What was broken from engineering?
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>>162801735
Rogue you just hide in the shadows like some shadowpussy or something.
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>>162801694
what if I told you that those things are already fixed?

t. Elysium developer
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>>162801735
Are you UD?
Yes: Priest
No: Are you Orc?
Yes: Warlock
No: Are you Tauren?
Yes: Warrior
No: Get outta here.
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>>162801807
burden of proof is on u
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>>162801750
Bugged.
>>162801770
Death ray and other trinkets.
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>>162801814
orc is objectively the better warrior for pvp
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Will alliance leave me alone if I roll a female troll anything and don't sperg on them the moment they come into my los?
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>>162801875
Well no shit, but warlocks are more-unkillable than warriors, and tauren can't be warlocks. It's a fucking flowchart without a graph you autistic swine.

>>162801904
Probably, unless you're a hunter or either of you are rogues. Also flat is justice but I can't help but get a boner at the gyaru girl.
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>pserver devs will never stop being selfish and give back to mangos
Imagine how much better the scene would be...
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>>162801379
GET THE FUCK OUT ROASTIE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162801904
The alliance never initiates ganks so you'll be safe
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>>162793103
Hello!
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>everyone is gonna be a healer
>want to play a druid healer
>probably gonna regret it a month later and quit when I can't find groups
should I just go warrior and tank or what
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>>162801904
I'm going to kill every female troll I see now you fucking pussy.
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>>162802007
Trump voice
WRONG
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>>162802058
druid is the least played class, you be fine senpai.
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>>162802007
>alliance never initiates ganks
What about nelf hunters camping TM all the time? I spent half of my time removing them from Undead promised land on nost
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>>162802058
Think about PvP aspects of classes, too. PvP in Vanilla can fill your time up too because the gear is interchangeable. If you can't heal in a raid, you can still heal in PvP, though it makes infinitely more sense for you to be a polymorphing flagrunner that abuses the fuck out of Shred.
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>>162802007
Haha no. Each side does it.
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>>162801735
Rogue can easily BTFO rank 14s with a grey dagger while naked.
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Which class is the most fun to level from 40 to 50? I burned out on Nost and Kronos both at around level 43, and I remember doing the same thing multiple times in actual Vanilla.
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>>162800475
Ty anon. That pretty much puts my worries to rest.
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>>162802130
Those oppressed nelfs are just retaliating from the countless ganks they experienced while lowbies. So as I said, the alliance don't initiate ganks but we will fight back.
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>>162802280
No class is fun from 40 to 50.
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>>162802280
Ever play a class that is capable of aoe grinding? Try that. Mage is pretty good at that.
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>>162802280

feral druid

40 is when you get the tree done and the mara trinket which procs all the time

25 to all stats + the scaling hotw gives you makes for some pretty insane shit honestly
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>>162802280
Just continue your old nost character. I also burned out at 43, then returned to it and got to 60. If you keep making new characters you will never get to 60.
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>>162802354
Mage was actually the only class I leveled to 60 straight through back in vanilla. I got a shaman to 60 also, but it literally took me a year to go from 40-55, I kept rerolling other classes. I was able to power through 40-50 on mage by AOE grinding in Dustwallow and then Tanaris, but there is no fucking way that I'll be able to AOE grind on Nost.

>>162802369
31 point druid talent is literally just 3% crit, and Innervate, the big skill you get at around 40, is nothing for leveling. I got burnt out of my druid on Nost.
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>>162802493
Ooops, I mean AOE grinding in Swamp of Sorrows and then Tanaris. Killed the Murlocs there until I was high enough to kill the pirates in Tanaris. Don't know why I thought of Dustwallow.
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>>162802058
That's a good thing though. That's more healers for you to innervate.
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>>162802280
Priest with shadowform is op as fuck 40-59
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>>162802280
Priest is pretty good. You get shadowform and can start truly melting faces.
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>>162801319
Yo.
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>>162802794
Send nudes
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>>162802876
Wow, that's pretty straight-forward. I find that kinda hot.
https://imgur.com/a/ljZDr
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>>162800023
Yes, it's really that bad.

The measures that other companies go through in order to range ban and keep them from accessing western servers are very high. That is how big of an issue they are. Even on retail they infest every server and spam trade chat all day. Unless you get an addon to filter it trade chat is unreadable (on retail, which disallows chinese and has region specific servers).

On their forums they actually laugh at Nostalrius for letting them play on it for free without needing to avoid being banned. To them it's an absurd concept that a western based game would give them free reign to not only access the servers but also play on them without any cost.

There is a reason Blizzard and every game company segregates the chinese and eastern audiences from the rest of the world. Even their version of Diablo 3 is fundementally different with cash shops for in game bonuses. Their culture is radically different.

The only reason why private servers were typically very international was because of how low pop they all were. Nostalrius has the EXACT OPPOSITE problem and yet continues to be an international server.

I'm just going to play nost until I see if crestfall is any good.
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>>162802947
>https://imgur.com/a/ljZDr
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so were really playing on the fresh realm right your not trying to trick me into waiting and go like haha we were playing without you on the nost realm we already killed cthun vanilla is over cya...
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>>162800887
>thanks for the gold retard

can you read?
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>>162802947
Really didn't need this shit tonight.
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>>162802947
>>162803095
<Salty Cucks> at their finest
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>>162802947

>cut

AAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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>>162803097
Check out this poll if you are in doubt, it's not a meme it's mostly just the Old PvP shills that try to get people to roll on their DoA server. I'll raidlog on Old and roll on fresh thats for sure.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r
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How is nostalrius getting away with running a private server again? Legally, I mean

im out of the loop
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>>162803120
Haha so you were just pretending. That's a good laugh mate.
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>>162803232
They won't. They'll get shut down within a couple months and then all these freeloaders will go back to paying for their sub as they should.
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>>162803232
When Blizzard and Activision laid prostrate at the alter of the Illuminati, they selfishly kept more than 90% of their income from the shadow government so they could funnel it all into their cinematic budget, rather than paying Jewish employees to make content and balance their games, as well as not donating to any of the Israeli support funds. Because of this, World of Warcraft is not protected by the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, and therefore Nostalrius can be safely built up on the Russian border without Russian interference or the US being able to interfere. Safely outside of Jewish control, Nostalrius can grow and prosper, and we can enjoy our childhood before the game was Jewed.
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>>162803232
blizz couldn't shut down the old nost, the nost team just shut it down out of faith that blizzard would work with them to get official vanilla servers going
then reality kicked in and literally no one was surprised that blizzard wasn't going to do it, so they started the project back up again
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>>162803334
>Warning warning, intruder alert, intruder alert
Get out retail baby
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>>162803263
what the fuck are you talking about

the picture literally shows chat logs of him stealing some guys gold and he says "thanks for the gold retard" after he's been found out
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so i am mostly equipped with pvp shit ( rank 10) with all 3 bgs exalted so ive got the rewards from those too. what raids can i get into with this ? do they prefer preraid bis or its fine with pvp gear till i get some loot from raids ? id like to do stuff other than pug mcs for sure
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>>162803120
if you dig he had at least two other names he was scamming with, all using the same aim name. One was even active semi-recently.
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>>162803497
If pre-raid BiS don't list PvP gear as a potential BiS contender, then it's not anywhere close to BiS.

Don't be dumb.
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>>162803497
It depends on your class.
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>>162803448
>the picture literally shows chat logs of him stealing some guys gold
my picture literally shows that you want to suck my dick
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>>162803334
Sorry but ill be giving Nost team my money. Id rather play on a fucking WoD "fun server" than go back to that garbage you call retail "WoW"
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>>162803596
Wow is this real?
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>>162803570
mage
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>>162803734
it's screenshotted idiot obviously
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>>162803734

[yes]spoiler[/yes]
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>>162803780
Go look up at pre-raid BiS list and compare the items, you should be mostly good though IIRC.
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Wouldnt it be cool if the elysium guys added a transmog system to vanilla?
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>>162803917
yeah that would be pretty cool they should add toyotas too
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>>162803917
No. Go play dress up on retail.
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>>162803917
Slippery slope. Don't mess with what's pure.
Unless it's respawn timers.
For the love of God make dynamic respawn timers.
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>>162801694
Rage gen is being discussed on Warrior forums and signs point to it being fixed.

Hopefully engineering isn't shyte.
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>>162803497
everything. just replace chest\boots\leggings with bloodvine and get goggles if you are engi
>>162803536
dumb neger
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>>162803917
No, fuck off with your non-Blizzlike adjustment, go play retail or some other shitty private server.
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>>162801904
Only if you suck me off
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11879824
http://www.strawpoll.me/11879824
http://www.strawpoll.me/11879824

IMPORTANT
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>>162803953
>>162803970
>>162803972
>>162804048
I think vanilla wow would big hit if they added a bunch of new features like the new models and some quality of life fixes. Maybe they could get blizzard on board after they see it and blizzard would be like "you think you do and you DO"
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>>162803991
Glad to hear it. Was a bit of a joke on Nost.
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>>162804161
end yourself snack
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>>162804210
Yeah well you thought wrong, your idea isn't new and it has been shut down a million times. You clearly don't know shit out the vanilla community.
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>>162804328
Enjoy your shitty dead server then
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Girl(female) here, would you start a corrupt loot council and give me all the gear if I erpd with you on voice?
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>>162804382
Okay I will.
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>>162804391
yes

that's how it worked with asscobra and avanine in <you>
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>>162804391
Yes. Join the Ally guild
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>>162804040
thanks homie
>>162803917
get the fuck outta here nigga i look dope as hell without your tmog shit
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>>162804391
Depends, how fat are you?
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>>162803917
There's literally nothing wrong with transmog. It doesn't affect the gameplay it's just cosmetic.

>but m-muh immersion
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>>162804492
BItch I'm full t2
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>>162804438
>>162804468
Great, I did worse things to get guild first full T6 back then.
>>162804494
Not fat at all.
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>>162804492
I'll knock her out and poach her boyfriend obviously.
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>>162804504
Killing yourself in real life doesn't affect the game play either, why don't you do that then?
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>>162793381
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>>162793616
>>162793536
>>162793381
>>162795857
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>>162804391
Yea baby but you got to video on skype with me though
>Pic related it's me
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>>162804694
you look like my old retail GM
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>>162804161
>girl (male)
puddi
>girl (female)
kasandra
>boy (male)
comfy
>boy (female)
murder
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>>162804735
is this a joke
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>>162804861
get well soon
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>>162804859
>kasandra
oh you
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>>162804861
No people are actually just trying to reinvent the wheel, even though there is a perfectly good guide in the OP there is always this one retard that was to show of his snowflake build.
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>>162804859
>>162804941
Can we please not fucking start this again?
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>>162804961
t. Noob who hasn't even raided Naxx
>>
https://youtu.be/3qe_L9D-YYs?t=65
noice.
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>>162804735
why are you specced into every weapon
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Daily reminder that the 45 minute Baron run was the hardest quest in the entire history of World of Warcraft.
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>>162805198
>45 mins
i finished that shit in 10 mins nigga
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>>162805157
That way I can roll need on any weapon and always be using good weapons for my level. Leveling warriors need to stay well-geared.
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>>162805246
Fuck off. Sub 30-mins I can believe, and sub-25 if the group has like AQ/Naxx gear or some shit like that, but anyone claiming sub-10 is straight-up lying.
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>>162805330
>not using exploits

PLEB
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>>162805198
You can wipe two or three times and still make it. Not hard at all.
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>>162805330
*sigh* no i just didnt suck or affiliate with those who did suck
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>>162805280
Just don't bother doing that, I understand the desire to not want to have to arms warrior while leveling but what you've done is ass.

Here bud, something I whipped up in a literal minute that trashes your shit build
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>>162805280
>he wants to use anything besides whirlwind axe
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>>162805198
That was back when people though all the hybrid class could do anything else but heal. Would be kinda of cool to go back and see people non ironically spec'ing Enhancment Shaman, Retard / prot pala. Also stat priority wasn't a thing so I bet there was a lot of poorly geared people.
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>>162805553
people thought having the full dungeon set was BiS before raids
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>>162805608
Kind of adorable when you run into people who still think like that on private servers.
I've seen guilds believe in the "white damage only" thing
>>
Is down ranking heals worth it without a lot of +healing? Is it something I even need to worry about pre-60 in 5 mans?

It seems like going for the larger heals would give me more mana regen when just doing normal content.
>>
>>162805512
I doubt you leveled to 60 on nost
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>>162805720
Yes and no. It's not as important but it can stop you from overhealing.
No point casting the 800hp heal if they're only missing 600hp.
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>>162804735
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>>162805720
It does, but you still want to downrank for other reasons. Often your biggest heal will require the tank to be practically dead to avoid overhealing, and sometimes you just don't have the mana to cast it in the first place.
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>>162805720
downranking isn't really needed pre-60 but if you're going oom very fast you should consider it
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>>162805720
just worry about m5 casting until you get enough +healing
look up mp5 addons
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>>162805740
Oh gee. What gave it away, was it the full T3?
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>>162805740
Naw leveled to 60 3 times on retail van, Warr, Rogue and Warlock
K1 Druid
K2 Gnome mage

Nost i was a warlock there too because "Fast leveling"
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>>162805789
>>162805793
>>162805795
I didn't know the mp costs went that high for upper ranks. That makes sense then.

Last question, should I stock up on drinks for dungeons or would it just be a waste of gold if I manage my mp correctly?
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Do Orc males look pretty in Warlock gear?

Can Undead Warlocks beat rogues without relying on them being retarded?
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Anyone got some dank playlist for when grinding, preferably music made for vidya games?

It's not perfect but I've had so much joy from http://vip.aersia.net/
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>>162805802
I'm just saying that this dude has nothing to do with thread. he acts like he's top 1 worldwide rogue but there is no "grimone" on nostalrius realmplayers and I know every decent rogue which played undead on nost, he's not one of them
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>>162805949
ALWAYS bring water
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>>162805975
>>162805864
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>>162805949
Make sure you at least have a stack of drinks in your bags.
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>>162805962
Orc Warlock is patrician taste mate.
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>>162805962
>Can Undead Warlocks beat rogues without relying on them being retarded?
If a rogue isn't retarded no one can beat him 1v1

>Do Orc males look pretty in Warlock gear?
Yeah. They get HUEG shoulders, and that's all that matters in WoW right?
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Hunter or warlock?
From a pve and pvp standpoint
Race still undecided
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>>162805975
Damn you're fucking retarded.
>>
>>162805949
Unless you have a mage in your group I strongly suggest always going a stack of water on you. Or just /who some nearby mage for water, usually they are willing to help you out.
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>>162806148
Don't you have a instant 60 server to play on kid?
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>>162806163
No Old NostPVP is back in like 3 days you dipshit. But you do you i wont knock your hustle.
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>>162805975
Name some of the best rogues you know.
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>>162806109
>Warlock
Great PvE DPS needed for Banish on elementals, throw out your assigned curse and spam Shadowbolt, but watch out for your thread. Strong in PvP unless you get meme'd by a Rogue, masters of attrition war.

>Hunters
Meh for PvE, does well during MC+Ony era until Casters get geared and Mages start spec'ing fire then you are mostly just there for Tranq Shot and the occasional kiting (which is kinda fun). Is basically the anti-caster when it comes to PvP has longer range than most other Casters, feign death, freezing trap, Aimed shot, i'd say they are okay, but once people get close to you loose a lot of fights.
>>
what is the most efficient sleep schedule for hitting 60 as fast as possible?

Would staying up for 24+ hours straight be the best or is it more efficient for the longrun just to go with 17 hours awake 7 hours asleep straight from the get go for longevity?

I'm leaning towards the latter right now.
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>people who are planning on raiding naxx
oh boy
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>>162791226

excellent taste

>>162791571
>>162791716
>>162791960

plebs (though darkshore sucks yes)
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>>162806468
desu smoking crack or drinking energy drinks doesnt really help much because you eventually crash and loose all that time that you thought you "gained"
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>>162806502
i plan on raiding naxx cause im playing on the old server
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>>162806374
me____
me__
me_______
me_
>>
none of you actually raided naxx
None

Not one
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>>162806626
you forgot me
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>>162806684
me
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>>162806684
Grimone did naxx on retrowow
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>>162806735
nice post.
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>>162806610
you won't raid on the old server because it'll be dead as fuck

you won't raid on the new server because nost is shit

even if it's released on either server; you're retarded
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>>162806684
Killed Razuvious and Anub'rekhan. Deal with it :)
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>>162806684
Nonsense, I raided naxx all the time!
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>>162806735
i actually did naxx on vanilla retail for a bit too, raiding isnt my thing but i wanted the gear. I actually found it to be pretty easy except the arachnid wing.
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>>162806448
I forgot to mention that Alliance is always in need of Warlock because most people don't like getting cucked repeatedly by Will of the Forsaken (Fear/Charm/Sleep immune) racial. Hunter is one of the least picked classes so you have a decent chance of making it into a raid.
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>>162806468

or don't be a fucking retard

look I like WoW too but, unless you're a worthless neet that doesn't give a shit about your body, get over your plans to lead the rat race on a decade old video game
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>>162806735
5man isn't a raid
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Retail wow is the true Patrician's choice. Playing modern day WoW is like going for a walk in a big city at night. There is no overarching story, really, but in a weird way that frees you to make your own. And when you do form a connection, which is rare I'll admit, its bittersweet. You both know that at any moment either of you could be swept up into the sea of data, and never be found again. It teaches you to live in the moment, and move forward. Vanilla is like moving to a small town and reliving the same scents and sights that you grew up with, never moving on. You lack imagination.
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>>162806940
I'm a worthless NEET who does care about my body. Which is why I plan to do 17/7.
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>>162792887
And nost is full of mongoloids who can barely speak english with toasters and chinks.

By the way which server banned chinks? Was it Kronos? Why can't Nost do it too?
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>>162806940
>>162807197

Im not a NEET, but I will be 60 before anyone else here.

Consistency and efficiency are key.
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>>162807181
So what you're saying is that Legion is fine??
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>>162807181
Vanilla WoW is the true Patrician's choice. Playing Vanilla WoW is like going for a walk in a big city at night. There is no overarching story, really, but in a weird way that frees you to make your own. And when you do form a connection, which is rare I'll admit, its bittersweet. You both know that at any moment either of you could be swept up into the sea of data, and never be found again. It teaches you to live in the moment, and move forward. Retail is like moving to a small town and reliving the same scents and sights that you grew up with, never moving on. You lack imagination.
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>>162807181
>>162807268
tfw playing both
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>>162807235
Because Nost is a meme server. We're all waiting for Corecraft.
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>>162800234
>Nostalrius got pretty much everything correct

I'm being baited here i know it.
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>>162807265
No. Legion is flawed, to the core. And thats why it deserves love. Remember the last time you looked at yourself closely? How many seemingly serious flaws you have? But the girl you once loved - I bet she was flawed, too. But you loved her nonetheless. And in this way, Legion imitates life, and all of its stupidity and blind hope for the future.
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>>162801574
Why not? looks fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7siEh7-aZ8&t=350s
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boys can you rank the races for mage for me please? ta
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>>162807421
yo lay off the weed homie
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>>162807421
So basically playing Vanilla is like fucking a 14 year old pussy. It's illegal and you're probably going to jail but at least you don't play Legion.
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>>162807521
>tfw had sex with 14yo when was 19
Don't bother reporting me to FBI, here where I live they have no power...
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>>162807421
no

legion is dad with alzheimers

eventually it just hurts to much to be around him so you need to put him in a home and only visit him once every few years only to be reminded about why you had to leave him behind every time you go and visit
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>>162807608
>>162807521
Don't you see what you've become? Where is your dignity? Don't you have something to strive for? There are those out there who would love you, and die for you, but you just haven't found them yet. Why aren't you looking for them? You know that they would be playing Legion, which you can pick up for cheap during Christmas sales. What's become of you?
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>tfw vanilla sucks
>tfw just wanna be a bc tankadin
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>>162807784
>retailfags so desperate for players that they try to make feels posts to lure people back to their shitty alzheimers expansion
>little do they know everyone here are schizoids anyways
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>>162807471
Just be undead and name yourself vurtne
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>druid video has the guy in noggenfogger elixir
dropped
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>>162807471
Undead is the best
Troll is good for pve if you manage to get your hp to 20% during bossfight and stay alive
Gnomes are ok because of their racial int bonus which is like one additional frostbolt before you go oom and escape artist can be useful when you have no blink or iceblock to remove crippling poison
Humans are gay
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>>162807853

taunt is really not important at all outside of some specific tankswap mechanics.

but if you give up this easily, you don't deserve to play a paladin.
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Do I level through NE start zone on Elysium, or trek it to Elwynn for comfyness?
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>>162807784
>maybe it will be different this time, let's give it another shot
I've done this too many times to have any faith in actiblizzion anymore.
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>>162808171
you no theres no druid trainers in elwynn
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DOES ANYONE KNOW IF DARKMOON FAIRE TONKS WORK ON NOST?
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>>162807471
A : Gnome > Human.

H : Undead (PvP) >= Troll (PvE)

I mean you literal can only pick 4 races to be mages. Not hard to see which racials are better.
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>>162808336
There are in SW though, at the park.
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>>162808495
>wanting to walk for 10 minutes every couple levels
i mean i guess
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Tell me right now why you're not playing paladin on Fresh?
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>>162808337
They did not exist before 1.10
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>>162808631
Because I'm rolling horde, you faggot.
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>>162808631
>wanting to be a healslut
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>>162808631

>Fresh
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>>162808631
I'm playing Priest instead
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>>162801332
last thread was a pic of his talent trees from the stream. he had 5/5 furor then 5/5 of both the first talents in feral and some random others.

it was retarded
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>>162808631
Because paladin is a trash class and I'm not sure if I want to play on new vaporware realm
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>>162808726

>vaporwave
>not on turbo-memecore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-MYe0SL9Q

negro please
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Finally got my verification email on my non-gmail account. Don't know if I got lucky or if they fixed the problem, but here's a heads up.
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>>162808561
I mean, humans would have to do the same, but all guides point to leveling in darkshore mostly. It's not like DS is any better, having to take a FP back to the treestump, and porting up to run to your trainer.

At least SW has the better aesthetics :^)
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>>162808662
ahh so they're not in the game but will be I assume? Good to know.
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>>162808631
dwarf paladin with engineering. my heart is torn, I want to go Goblin but Gnomish Death Ray is just too good.
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>>162808171
why would they travel from solitary to crowded mob hunt?
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>>162808631
Because I'm going back to my old characters, anyone sensible knows this shit will go belly up in the next year or two so there's no point in doing it again.
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take me back.
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>>162808950
Gnomish death ray is useless on nost, its not k2.
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Shit gfx, they should allow graphical modifications to the client.
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>>162808851
>SW has better aesthetics
nope
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>>162809092
because of a bug or it just sucks?

I don't care either way I won't be playing Kronos once nost is back so you don't have to shill, I'm just curious.
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>>162809063
>800x600 resolution
>yellow ping
Ma nigga
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-QTiZLQ0
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>>162809131
god vanilla would have been so much fucking better if darnassus was the main city and wasn't in the middle of fucking no where and made completely worthless for.. well forever

now that I think about it, it's literally never been a relevant city that anyone even remembered beyond getting the fuck out of their if they started as nelfs
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>>162809298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_f8UFv_Ytc

Have they used any of the old Warcraft tracks in WoW? I stopped playing before wotlk came out.
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Daily Reminder that you can't be a competetive raider if you're horde.

How do shamans even compete?
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>>162809131
>>162809354
where the FUCK is the auction house
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>>162809354
I mostly saw druids there, because free Moonglade teleport then hearthstone back to the zone they're levelling in.

it's nice for mages on occasion if you want to portal there to get to felwood/winterspring/azshara etc. quickly

But yeah, it's a shame it wasn't used more.
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I play warrior because they get to use all weapons (except wands which don't really count anyway) and I have a crush on medieval warfare.

What autistic reason do you play X for?
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>>162809220
Both are shit.

On nost its just useless, does so little damage its never worth using

On kronos it does damage its supposed to do but never backfires, making it super good
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>>162809562
What's competitive vanilla raiding? Rushing through BWL 5 minutes faster than other guilds?
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>>162809583
Look directly out from the bank and it's just to the right of the main bridge.

Once you memorise the city it's not that bad. You also have the added benefit of never being ganked by horde rogues/raids because how the fuck they gonna get there and for what purpose.

But yeah, comes with the drawback of it being literally in the middle of the fucking sea.
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>>162809628
Mage, because I have high IQ
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What class/race/spec combo will let other niggas know I eat 6 wing mild sauce on the daily?

Bet. I want these fools to recognize a
chicken connoisseur

Pic related 8 wing mild sauce boi
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>>162809562
how many vanilla world firsts were done by nihilum?
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>>162809628
Paladins because I always have to play the most non-degenerate, lawful good option
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>>162809701

Troll anything because trolls are niggers.
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>>162809701
tauren is the perma-bulk race so there's your answer
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>>162809648
I just want a server to fix all the fucking bugs properly for once. ffs.
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>>162809697
tfw I play mage really well but my IQ is 55
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>>162809701
Male Orc hunter or shaman.
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>>162809690
I dunno, I found horde tends to pop up there fairly often since tyrande is the easiest faction leader
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>>162809354
I think it's cozy and adds to the special snowflake status of the nightelves who don't like no foreign guests.
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>>162809381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cswVyPnKJ5U

Is all I can remember hearing. It's a remix? of the song you posted. It's played as you escort thrall in old hillsbrad. I'm sure a lot more has been used ingame, but I can't really point a specific out from the previous games.
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>>162809701
just put "x" at the end of your nickname
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>>162809701

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZqPmUtQs2Q

Hunter named Freddie Gibbs
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i hope this time around nost actually has good line of sight. it was fucking trash on nost 1
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>>162809780
Do the faction leaders actually give a decent amount of honor or is it worthless?
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>>162809298

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI5W2yuGHbo

>post yfw
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>>162809893
Line of sight is not meant to be blocked by trees if that was your issue.
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>>162809910
worthless, but tyrande can be 5manned and no one cares enough to defend her
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>>162809701
not enough fries

5/7
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>>162807239
(You)

faggot
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>>162809702
I'm reading about 24 from start of WoW up to SWP.
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/16397-WoW_world_first_list

https://web.archive.org/web/20151219232325/http://manaflask.com/en/world-firsts#vanilla

Has more info, but nih seemed to disappear around wotlk. Perhaps they reformed, but I don't really follow raiding rosters.
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>>162809934
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>>162809701
Male Troll Priest, balding white hair and sideburns purple tats
Go Disc
Name it something black
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>>162809974
>elvui
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wotlk had best music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mqaOtLhbA
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>>162808631

But I am going to play my paladin, also I'm a healslut.
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>>162810195
>not grizzly hills
kys
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>>162809648
im 100% certain gnomish death ray wasn't out on nost, bud
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>>162793381
Don't know what else I should use as keybinds, I don't like using alt modifiers very much.
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>>162810195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR7bqc2mheA
All versions of the game had great soundtracks. Though I would wager MoP had the worst variety.
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>start playing nost on release
>complete clusterfuck, servers shitting their pants, bugs out the ass, don't give a shit was having fun
>reach lordaeron throne room
>see some faggot
>start talking shit
>he calls me a noob
>tell him I am the kind and to get off my throne
>he calls me a pussy
>we go outside to duel for the throne
>I pwn him
>I go back in to claim my throne
>the noob bows down to the new king

closed the game and never bothered to play again after that

sad to hear that nost turned out to be absolute shit but everyone still plans to play on it soon
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>>162793381
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Are there currently any issues with hunter pets that'd affect the class? I'd likely mostly be doing raiding with some PvP during raid lockouts and I'm kinda torn between mage and hunter atm.
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>Alliance guild is inviting normie girls just because they're friends with a guild member
>doesn't even post here

Remove the Alliance guild from the OP.
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>>162810193

please do not insult that guy's custom UI that literally hooks into the API without creating any addons a version of ElvUI
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>>162809220
K2's DR was pretty fucked up. Like the other anon said, it also did maybe 50 dmg to the user.
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>>162801319
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>>162810424
why is that shield blue

priest shields shouldn't be blue

fucking retail piece of shit
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>>162810434
From what I recall pets were pretty good on Nost, they have more problems on Kronos
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>mfw watching youtube channels based on retail WoW desperately trying to branch out into other forms of content and failing miserably as they prepare for WoW's death

sad times ahead for retailfags
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>>162810494
>I can't read buffs
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>>162810369
WTF did I just read
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>>162795673
>paying for Retail
>2016
You poor naive child
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Should I abandon my almost-R13 character because AQ will invalidate my efforts in 2 months anyway?

If I go fresh, what should I do to prevent this happening in the future, just PvE for gear instead?
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>>162810308
It was. I used it. go to realmplayers and find someone whos got it in latest items list or as equipped trinket if you don't believe me
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>>162810434
>Are there currently any issues with hunter pets that'd affect the class?

Rarely pets could get sucked into the walls of one specific cave layout on Elysium, and they didn't interact very well with boats (I'd either dismiss pet as you get on the boat and resummon as they get off, or let the pet vanish and resummon when I arrived, but doing the latter sometimes would cause its name to change to 'Unknown' - relogging would always fix that problem though).

However, it seems like it'll be using nost core so even those minor issues won't be a factor.
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>>162810650
>because AQ will invalidate my efforts
What does this mean? Shouldnt there be somewhat equivalent PvP gear for PvPers? :(
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>>162810604
blue shields just shouldn't exist at all, it ruins the purity of the game
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>>162810308
>im 100% certain gnomish death ray wasn't out on nost, bud
It was, it was shit because the damage and proc chance were bugged. Most Engineering items except bombs were buggy or poorly implemented and thus useless.
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>>162810585
you know what i don't get alex has the great idea of expanding his content to away from vanilla wow.
He does it and then he goes back to the same trap, why did he do this to himself?
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>>162810706
No you losers, this isn't a PvP game. You go grind your R13 for 4 months 24/7 and get something that is slightly worse than the AQ40 set which can be had by just logging in twice a weak.
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>>162810706
No, AQ gear is better than highest PvP gear, and later Naxx gear shits all over it completely and oneshots everyone in it.
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>tfw you make your bed
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>>162810780
>>162810786
It still wouldnt stop pro PvPers to shit on top geared PvEers

tough life, keep fighting the computer enemies fags
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>>162810727
That's what I hate about nostbabbies with their nostalrius goggles, they think nost was actually better than k2.
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>>162810756
he realised he's the least personable person that anyone has ever seen and the only reason he has any kind of viewership is because he spammed his videos here and there's an incredible drought in content both in and outside of vanilla world of warcraft right now since people are bored waiting for nost 2.
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>want to name my new mage on elysium "Tankjr"
>everyone would assume that I'm tank warrior but I'm not
what do
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>>162810835
don't be a pussy, be a tank warrior.
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>>162810434
>>162810689

Alrighty, thanks. Too bad that doesn't make the choice any easier, guess I'll just roll the dice when the time comes.
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>>162810826
I remember when nost when down and everyone switched over to kronos

holy fuck was it hilarious seeing all of the kronos shills bullshit exposed in a single afternoon as people encounter bug after bug after bug

the combat bug to this very day is still not fixed
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>>162810835
>want to play something that isn't horde
>people won't know I'm black if I play alliance
>can only rely on names like Savage/Yeet/Clean/Swag/Extendo/Youngthug
what do
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>>162810825
>pro PvPers
No such thing, all the rankers use their gear to kill shit faster in PvE.
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>>162810825
To a degree sure, but pve'ers start at a higher base stats than PvP'ers in their gear. So why not have the pvp'ers get the good parts of the pve gear, and be a better player with equal/better stats than other pvp/e'ers? Wouldn't make sense not to min max in pvp, since that's the goal of pvp, to outplay your opponent both before and during a fight.
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>>162810826
Did they work properly on Kronos? Never played it.

Other stuff that was bugged or non-working on Nost were the MC cap (wrong proc/failure chance), Target Dummies (didn't work properly or drop flux wiring), parachute (again stupidly high failure chance, that I don't even think it had in vanilla), rocket helmet (that almost always broke stun instantly after it applied the stun) etc.
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>>162810890
combat bug is not fixed on any private server ever
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>>162810894
>can literally just make a nigger human

your b8 has failed once again alliance discord clique

step it up
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>>162810894
You can make a literal nigger in chargen, dude.
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>>162793381

>>162810356
Not played vanilla hunter but I have a feeling that shift+mwheelup for feign death and shift+mwheeldown for freezing trap would be OP in pvp
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How fucking HYPED are you faggots for fresh server launch?
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>>162810894
>>people won't know I'm black if I play alliance
Friendly reminder that Alliance is the only faction that has actual negers
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Reminder that if you don't use the field of view fix for vanilla, then you're not playing vanilla as it's supposed to be played.
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>>162810825
>It still wouldnt stop pro PvPers to shit on top geared PvEers
It literally would, stats are all that matters in vanilla.

Unfortunately you have to be in a raiding exploiter guild to PvP after AQ, which is fucking terrible.
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>>162810979
17th/10 hyped
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>>162810963
>>162810965

niggermind
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>>162810979
>hyped about realm which won't be released in 2016
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>>162810979
> fresh server launch
See you next year faggots, enjoy waiting.
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>>162811007
Is AQ hard? I've heard the horror stories about naxx, but I don't really know anything about AQ.
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>>162811078
Nothing is hard, you just have to be GM's gf to actually get the gear, otherwise you'll be doing it for others.
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new pvp server what date ?
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>>162810885
How about this? Only 2 hunters are needed per raid on a basis that they even need to bring them for tranqs (maybe 3 for bwl incase you fuckup chromag with sands). Meanwhile mages are brought along with med-low comp for buffs, food, ports, and raid utility. On lockouts, hunts generally have the most fun in AV, where as mages are very fun in any BG. Mages are also somewhat fun in wpvp, where as hunts are neat for aim 1 shotting afk'ers or slow people.
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>>162810894
>extendo
I keked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrdQiGotAoo
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>>162811126
and others will be doing it for others (you)
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>>162811132
the date is not sure which year or day or month my foreign friend
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>>162811078
there's 3 really annoying points in the dungeon
sartura -> can't be tanked, aggros randomly, instagibs everyone who doesnt have some defensive cd like iceblock or vanish. frustrating to learn.
huhuran -> brainless gear check for nature resistance
the trash between twins and cthun -> literally harder than any boss before them
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>>162810946
MC cap got me mind controlled once or twice on k2, so i give it around 10% of the backfiring.
Haven't tried other but rocket helmet seemed to work fine (over 10second cc all the time)
And reflectors working not reflecting aoe (on nost they reflected everything), not sure how it was on retail
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>>162811045
Dude it will be the next year in 2 weeks
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>>162811341
>And reflectors working not reflecting aoe (on nost they reflected everything), not sure how it was on retail
They are supposed to only reflect targeted spells, and make you immune to aoe I think. Which wasn't the case on Nost.

Also, the lag or something else made them not work half the time too.
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>>162811259
the hunter icon always pissed me off because of how stupid the bow looked
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>>162811154
From what I've seen, guilds will usually take 3-4 Hunters to raids whereas they'll take 6-10 mages. On the one hand that means Mages get into raids far more easily, but on the other, they have more people to compete against for gear. I think it balances out somewhat.
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>>162811341
Reflectors aren't supposed to reflect AoE spells, only direct target spells get thrown back at the original caster. You're still immune to the spell of course.
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>>162810826
I like how voidwalkers are literally the best tanks on the server, never losing aggro
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>>162811443
never let a human do a machine's job
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>>162810936
So what should I do then? Abandon the character for fresh or try to get into raiding guilds?

I'm afraid that the server will just be a raidlog dead server when AQ/Naxx comes around anyway.
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>>162811431
>You're still immune to the spell of course.
Oh ok, that's not the case on k2 atleast, you still get psychic screamed, that's for sure, haven't tried it on coc or blast wave though
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>>162811486
you should kys you insecure neet underage faggot
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>>162811423
also consider that mage gear 9/10 time also = warlock gear and sometimes to a lesser extent pally/priest gear on some very specific items
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>>162811486
See what happens one month later after new realm launch and figure out if you want to level from zero or stay with your 60. Don't listen to shills from both sides. And by the way, you gonna play Nost PvP for next month anyway.
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>>162811486
>taking 4chan fearmongering seriously
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>>162811540
so warlocks are fucked also kek
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tfw have a 60 mage and priest on nost pvp but planning to roll fresh. Best of both worlds baby.
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>>162811534
I just want to PvP. :(

>>162811553
>>162811560
But PvE gear being better than PvP gear isn't fearmongering/shilling, it's a reality that will happen in 2 months regardless of the state of the server...
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>>162811598
Is it 28 hours or 52 hours from now though?
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>>162811661
>PvE gear being better than PvP gear isn't fearmongering/shilling
I was responding to the part where you said
>I'm afraid that the server will just be a raidlog dead server when AQ/Naxx comes around anyway.
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>>162811694
according to guild shivtr of some dude who keeps posting about his guild it's 2 days 11 hours
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>>162811739
Yeah but we won't know that until it happens, so any effort put into getting into a raiding guild and progressing through PvE tiers etc. could be for naught because wPvP will die in the meantime.
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>they do not know how to calculate from now to saturday

this is the retards you are playing with

never with /vg/
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>>162811745
>2days11hours
I'm going to have to wake up that early in the morning? ugh
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Do we have a solid date on the new server yet?
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>>162811894
we get the release date on 25th

prior to that we have only heard 3-4 weeks after the first launch, so likely around 7-14th of jan for fresh
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>>162811837
>what are timezones

>>162811798
>any effort put into getting into a raiding guild and progressing through PvE tiers etc. could be for naught because wPvP will die in the meantime.
taking 4chan fearmongering seriously
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>>162811894
was supposed to be announced last saturday but they decided to change that without telling anyone
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>>162812010
>timezones are problem for them
like I said, brainlet retards
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>>162809701
looks good
Thinking about getting some for the release but all I have is wingstop
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>>162812076
Gee I wonder why.

Makes me laugh everytime when someone claims that the old pvp server is not on suicide watch and the staff is so confident it'll survive on its own they not only put the release date for the new one dead last, keep delaying it, don't want to admit the release date and generally try to fuck it over as much as they can.

Of course it's not gonna do anything, but it still shows how confident they are.
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>>162812137
Have you considered that, with so few accounts made so far, the new server won't even be needed? Nost had 150k active accounts, there's only 30k this time around...
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>Big thanks to our awesome community. PvE server and web hosting now paid for 6 months, PvP server paid for 2 months in advance!

PvE paid for 6 but PvP paid for only 2 months? Lol wtf
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>>162812234
Reddit cucks. Nothing to see here.
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>>162812201
More or less all active accounts are being made for the old pvp and old pve. No-one who only wants to roll fresh has a reason to make an account yet.
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>>162812201
If they do no new server at all, it would be a better solution than what they are doing right now.

Right now they're trying to bait and switch into rolling on the old server, despite them being interested in the new server only.

They want to harvest the new server crowd but somehow bait them into going to the old server instead. Not only is this not going to work, it's also gonna be the reason why old pvp will die.
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>>162812234
Alex will be on PvE server
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>>162812307
>it's also gonna be the reason why old pvp will die.
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>>162812307
>I will now claim to speak on behalf of everyone
No one cares about your opinion lamely pretending to be a fact.

>Right now they're trying to bait and switch into rolling on the old server
No, they're prioritising their own users who've had to deal without a server for a few months and to bring back the nost crowd asap. The fresh server will be fine anyway so that can wait.
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>>162812234
> PvE server and web hosting now paid for 6 months
> PvP server paid for 2 months
FUCKING KEK
AND YOU ALL SAID NO ONE WAS GOING TO ROLL PVE AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
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>>162812378
Just like with every private server project, once they release a new server, everyone flocks to that one. The pServer community are locusts and nothing really works against that. There is like a dozen servers where this exact pattern has repeated again and again, yet none of them where the old server somehow survived a new server.

>>162812426
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>>162812456
That says nothing. Technically those 6 months can be donated by one single wealthy PvE cuck.
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>>162812456
Pvp server costs 10 times as much because of the pop you retard
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>>162812456
a few whales funding their preferred server says jack all
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>>162812460
There is no precedent for nost's return so your pattern is meaningless here.
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>>162812201
b8
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i'm bored
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>>162812776
There is plenty of precedents, but of course since you joined the private server community last year, you don't know about any of them. Nost isn't special.
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>>162812460
>>162812776
Yeah, it's still mostly speculation at this point. There was a shitload of publicity about it, but many might also be scared off, because of the common misconception that Blizzard closed old Nostalrius.
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>>162812456
you realise a server with 2k peak pop costs less than one with a 12k average pop, right?
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>>162812873
>Nost isn't special.
Get your ass back to Kronos.
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>>162812732
will pvp servers have higher pops then?
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>>162812776
Yea nah you're wrong
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>>162812890
More like because they don't wanna trust the people who already fucked them once and pretended Blizzard forced them.

30k accounts is pathetic compared to what Nost had running. We're looking at 1/5th the normal users.
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Do any of you guys still watch retail wowtubers?

I check in on them from time to time, and it's so oblivious that they know the game sucks. Preach made a video where he talked about Artifact Power and how it pidgon-held him into not changing mains. This is shortly after he made a video visualizing the feeling of not getting the right legendary.

They're so careful to not directly criticize it because they know how rabid the retail fanbase is.
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>>162812930
3k old pvp, 1k old pve, 50k new pvp
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>>162812929
What a weird forehead and stupid weave.
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>>162812890
>but many might also be scared off, because of the common misconception that Blizzard closed old Nostalrius.
I think people will be able to get over that when it hits them that their characters are ultimately safe on a database somewhere and even in the unlikely event that the new servers are actually taken down, more can always spring up a short while later with everyone's characters intact once again.
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>>162812967
Forgot that part. You are right.
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>>162812456
PvP doesn't have e-celebs funding it.
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>>162813015
I only watch Hamsterwheel sometimes. He's the only vanilla wow youtuber which can actually play this fucking game unlike rest like analsexual. too bad that he's playing on primalwow
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>>162812667
>>162812739
>PVP server has more people but less people willing to support it
really makes you think

>>162812732
>costs 10 times
want to know how I know you've never even seen the donation page?

>>162812895
If you guys had actually gone to the donation page and done the math you'd know that the pve server still has more money in it than the PVP server.
Really makes you think.
>pvp players scared donation figures will steal players from their old meme server

>>162813089
How much did alex give?
I can't imagine he gave much if anything he seems like a jew.
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>>162813023
She's wealthier than you.
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>>162813018
50k holy fuck, is more than blizzard servers?
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>>162813015
I watched a video where he criticized the legendary system recently (the system the entire fucking expansions and its content revolves around for the most part besides the autistic artifact system)

He made sure to remind everyone that "this is just one really bad system in a sea of g-good systems though!"

What good system lmao? Dailies? Mythic +? I haven't spoken to a single person from my old top 100 guild that likes it, most of them quit the expansion once they realised the only way to remain competitive was if they all had 3 alts for splits and shit.

WoD was the straw that broke the camels back and now we're just witnessing the last whimpers of a dying game.
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>>162813160
Are you retarded
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>>162813136
>She
Literally who?

I don't care about materialism. Rich af ugly kikes are still revolting kikes.
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How to make player get off the mount when I attack him?
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>>162809063
lol dont take me back

i worked my ass off and now im a giant hot 10
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>>162813134
>>162812456
I'd wager it's less about population and more that PvE servers tend to attract more adults and normies (aka people who have money)
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>>162813206
>Are you retarded
This is /nosg/...
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>>162813297
spam /spit and make them REALLY mad at you
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Daily reminder not to bully trans gamers. Make sure to have atleast one transgirl or cuteboy in your guild to boost morale!
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>>162813473
Would bully him to death in real life
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>>162813473
Gonna bully them till they beg me to stop.
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>>162813473
>that pic

Of fucking course it is Australian.

God dammit I hate this country.
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I will just sit here and watch this livestream until the fresh server release. :3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOS710QOsj8
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>private server cucks this desperate that retail dies off
It's not going anyway kiddies. The expansion is actually better than WoD and already has the same amount of raids WoD has and it's only the first patch :^)
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>>162813297
kill his mount
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>>162813684
I don't care what Blizzard does.
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>tfw only person with a lambo here
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ITT: People being insecure about their server and shilling whatever one they have 60s on.

Literally doesn't fucking make any difference you retards. As long as we get to play the game.

I can't be the only one here that was playing unscripted mangos cores like 5or 6 years ago and is just glad everything doesn't fall through the ground/walls constantly.
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Can someone explain to me why feral druids are not incredibly overpowered.

Feral druids
>scale significantly better with armor than even a prot warrior
>have much higher health than prot warriors
>gain threat easier than a prot warrior
>get more attack power from strength in cat form than a warrior does
>get more attack power and crit from agility in cat form than a rogue does
>shred deals 225% damage plus 180 compared to a rogue's backstab that does 150% plus 210

I don't get it. The only thing that feral druids don't have over warriors/rogues is that they can't parry, can't block, and don't get any attack damage bonus from weapon damage.
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>>162813684
literally nobody cares as long as we get to play vanilla
>>162813757
lol
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>>162813812
>implying
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>>162813829
But anon, I don't have any 60s on Crestfall.
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>>162813764
Some people in here do apparently despite their version of the game being "perfect".

Legacy servers will not happen until next expansion or if the game really starts to die off
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>>162813901
no shield, no panic buttons

feral druids are better 5man tanks and also work better in ZG due to mechanics
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Get me out of this Kronos shithole pls
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>there are some people who are UPSET that people are rolling on the pve server

lets compare the three servers:

FRESH PVP DOWNSIDES:
>10k queue at all times of the day
>Impossible to level for the first two weeks unless you're NEET and play 9 hours a day
>Everything will be contested to the point where leveling professions is virtually impossible
>High number of players means the economy will be fucked
>Full of NEET's

FRESH PVP UPSIDES:
>World pvp

OLD PVP SERVER DOWNSIDES:
>Economy is destroyed
>15+ guilds ready to rape AQ40 the second it's released
>Will get ganked over and over, leveling will take twice as long as pve and likely longer than on fresh too

OLD PVP UPSIDES:
>None

OLD PVE SERVER UPSIDES:
>Calm, friendly community
>No NEET's
>Don't need to spec pvp and get engineering
>No queue's

OLD PVE DOWNSIDES:
>No world pvp
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>>162813972
Okay. That makes sense.

But what about cat form?

Why does kitty-cat DPS do as much DPS as a hunter, and not a rogue?

Is it because of white damage and SnD?
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>>162813901
>shred deals 225% damage plus 180 compared to a rogue's backstab that does 150% plus 210
From a base claw damage that cannot be increased. That alone makes them shit.
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>>162813990
>the most advanced adventure in the universe
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>>162814032
>From a base claw damage that cannot be increased
What about attack power?
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>>162813901
If feral druids were overpowered literally everyone and his cow would play them. Your autism about numbers doesn't change that. Ferals only got more popularity with wotlk and much more with cataclysm were they were indeed OP, albeit not any more than frostmages.
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who the fuck would play this shit game if it wasnt for wpvp,the only thing that lacks in any expansions?
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>>162813994
b-b-but muh hilsbrad battles!
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>tfw gitin sum chicken wangs will b the highlight of my day
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>>162814118
I know they're not overpowered. I am not saying they are. Learn to read, retard.

I want some cunt to explain to me WHY they aren't.
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guys which underplayed class should i play

>warrior
>druid
>hunter
>warlock
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>>162813983
thats a yummy cock :3
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>>162814191
they arent UP, they just have the highest skill floor
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>>162814162
world pvp is fun on servers that has a retail-like pop because you'll get to know the players you fight.
on a server with 12k online no one will know eachother anyway and it'll just be pointless killing.

what made wpvp fun was battling the same people over and over in tyrs hand. sheeping them so they'd get killed by the patrol etc.

you won't have those moments on nost and wpvp will literally just random battles
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>>162814216
>warrior
>hunter
>underplayed
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>>162814272
I'm wealthier than you.
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>>162814304
so.. this is the power of autism
>>
Reminder that the Alliance guild does not tolerate normalfags.
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>>162813994
OLD PVE DOWNSIDES:
>Every run takes an hour longer due to "brb kids" or "brb wife" every 2 minutes
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>>162814272
i agree completely with you, having this much people is in no way blizzlike and all those things you said about wpvp and knowing your enemies were the best things for me I experienced in this game

I really dont understand why dont they just break this high pop into more identical realms, which should make game more playable and probably reduce the lag and other problems...
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>>162814251
>need to be able to play a priest, warrior, and rogue all at the same time
>they're easy
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>>162814354

What level of deviancy is the bare minimum requirement?
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>people are actually trying to shill a fucking carebear server now they are so bored

kek
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>>162814364
OLD PVP DOWNSIDES:
>runs never finish due to "brb I gotta smoke" or "brb I have multiple drug addictions i must fulfill" but most commonly "WTF YOU FUCKING FAGGOT YOU SUCK REEEEEEEE"
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>when you accidentally unstealth while sneaking around 40 people bwl raid
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>>162814462
breaking the autism/shitpost combo

i love it anon, i actually kekd a little
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>>162813994
Fixed

FRESH PVP DOWNSIDES:
>10k queue at all times of the day
>Impossible to level for the first two weeks unless you're NEET and play 9 hours a day
>Everything will be contested to the point where leveling professions is virtually impossible
>High number of players means the economy will be fucked
>Full of NEET's

FRESH PVP UPSIDES:
>World pvp

OLD PVP SERVER DOWNSIDES:
>Economy is destroyed
>15+ guilds ready to rape AQ40 the second it's released
>Will get ganked over and over by pre-geared 60s, leveling will take twice as long as pve and likely longer than on fresh too
>If you played before you have nothing to do but bgs til new content is released

OLD PVP UPSIDES:
>If you played before you have your old geared 60s

OLD PVE SERVER UPSIDES:
>Calm, friendly community
>No NEET's
>Don't need to spec pvp and get engineering
>No queue's

OLD PVE DOWNSIDES:
>No world pvp
>Significantly lower bg activity
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>>162814272
I agree. You knew you were fucked when you ganked some characters and suddenly the best mage on the server would show up.
>>
Someone post the pic of Yeb getting BTFO by Krah
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>>162813994
OLD PVE DOWNSIDES:
>LOL PVE
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>>162814581
Who?
>>
I love how shills here think that people on old pvp have either zero characters or top geared lvl60s.
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>its illegal to summon infernals/doomguards in Goldshire
this isnt blizzlike
>>
Staysafe really is the non-retarded version of Alex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx11jtq6Mt8
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>>162814402
too expensive to run that many servers sadly

>>162814562
haha, yeah. still remember this r14 mage, Bladepl from my retail server. if you went to tyrs you knew this guy would attack you sooner or later.

>>162814453
>>162814364
i guess those even out
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>>162814785
wtf srsly? what kind of fucking gay lgbt sjw server is this?
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>>162814785
You can summon them in Goldshire, just not places like Northshire valley
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>>162814852
even if you a horde warlock?
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>>162814852
this

you can summon them in whatever zone, just not the 1-5 level areas.
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>>162814191
you have to realize that nobody who is willing to try and maximize their dps rolls druid in the first place. I haven't met a single feral druid who actually knew how to play. I would even give some of them advice on things they could try to increase their DPS with because I was curious and they'd reply with "lol cba"
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>>162814528
>>If you played before you have nothing to do but bgs til new content is released
Unless you were one of the 90% of players who didn't get to 60 yet you mean.
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>>162809770
I've been waiting for that since Scriptcraft 1. It will never happen. I honestly have no idea what the devs do with their time. I guess they have real jobs and don't want to fix bugs in their free time.
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>>162814971
How do you max your DPS as a druid, then?

Because what I do, is spam shred over and over until my energy drops below 8, then I shapeshift out and in to get the bonus energy, then I continue shredding. At 5 CP, I use ferocious bite.

What else is there that I can do?

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0zLVhoZV0gsfbdtV

There's my spec.
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>>162814528
BGs are still active on pve, they give good pve gear. They're just not very competitive since people are only there to grind honor/rep.
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Am I a cuck for going Priest and healing people?
Was my main back in vanilla
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>>162813901
>gain threat easier than a prot warrior

this is a meme. if it were true, top guilds would use ferals on farm runs when their DPS wants to top meters, and they just don't. I could see a bear having better aggro than a brick wall prot offtank who takes 0 damage and has 0 tps gear, but a TPS geared and specced MT will fucking dwarf a feral in threat

also prot has 2 taunt effects compared to feral's 1, so if there's a loose add or something then they have 2 chances to land a taunt on it
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>>162814971
Tell me how to maximize my damage aswell here is my spec

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0zLVhoZE0MsfbdtV
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>>162814785
>GMs power trips start at normies feelings
Wouldn't really surprise me if they retained most of the staff from old valk. These were the same GMs that intervened our guild from ganking the only horde that was killing nightmare dragons. GMs ended up banning a few of them when they questioned the GMs ingame why they were being told to not gank during fights (along with calling them spineless faggot power tripping vodkas).
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>>162815336
You're only a cuck if you enjoy either watching your SO have sex with other people, or enjoy them telling you about those experiences after the fact.
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>>162815391
dont use claw
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>timeline until 2018
>implying the servers will last that long
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What do you think about this? Master wpvper lel
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#oZVMhzZVAGIoftho
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>>162815336
not as long as you play male undead priest for the GOAT healing animations
>>
can any one rate my ret build?
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>>162815727
It's fucking shit.
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>>162815996
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sxVzZZEfctrfqo
here it is
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>>162816010
invincible
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>>162816065
No it's shit
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Reminder that the objective skill rankings of the past generals is
/wpsg/>/nosg/>>>>>>>>>/krog/
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>>162815958
Was going to go undead for that PvP facemelt potential
But desu nothing better than stacking mp5 for raid healing
>>
What's the best MH sword with TF in off hand for a rogue?
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>>162816114
i dont think so, its pretty godlike survivability god mode
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>>162816051
It is shit
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>>162816149
>Icc simulator
>good

Call me when wpsg forms a guild that can clear Sunwell
>>
Someone rate my shaman tank build

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hxfZEbc0xxzZxf0x
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>>162816149
>wpsg

lol
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>>162816302
>/vg/ doing sunwell
>>162816360
Call me when /nosg/ and /krog/ can clear something besides bwl
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>>162816215
>pyroblast w/o blast wave
>no ignite
>impact for some reason
no it's shit
>>
people willingly waste their time on the old servers when a fresh one is about to hit?
>>
>>162816413
>impact for some reason
how do i know that you are actually stupid shit lmao kys fuckboi
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>>162816328
Pretty shit. You need to get storm strike and some other shit in Enhancement
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>>162816405
>when you can clear something other than the highest level of progression possible on the server

what did he mean by this?
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>>162816328
Shaman tanks need all their mana for keeping threat. You're not gonna be healing yourself.
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>>162816450
>he's going to use scorch w/o incinirate and ignite
I assume you never played as mage so nevermind
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>>162816516
He meant youre farming bwl and mc for 2 years is less impressive than even farming naxx 25 for 2 years
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>>162816468
and now?
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hxfzZEic0Exuz


>>162816541
we don't get taunt or a totem that increases threat?
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>>162816431
idk

people are weird

fresh crestfall is just around the corner
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>/wowg/ is making fun of us again

what should we do, bros?
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>>162815727
Shit stop trying to reinvent the wheel the game is a decade old.
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>>162816742
>look mom I posted it again!

wasn't funny the first time
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>>162816742
who?
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>>162816328
dont listen to them. this is the real shaman tank spec. the trick is to time your rank 1 healing waves in between the bosses melee attacks to keep up the 25% armor boost while still being able to parry every blow.
>http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#hZVi00xxuZxfct0xo
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>>162816637
because wotlk is when raiding REALLY got challenging :D
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>>162816884
>:D

I will never not hate this fucking face because of exactly the type of people you are imitating
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>>162816850
that's some retarded shit right there
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>>162816850
Thanks man, I thought ancestral healing would be good for tanking, guess i spread my build to thin trying to get elemental warding this one looks much better cheers.
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>>162814447
Be either gay, an ERPer, a waifufag, or transexual
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>>162816884
The easiest content in wotlk (naxx 25) is only slightly easier than the hardest vanilla content (naxx 40) because of numbers not mechanics .
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>>162817063
:thinking:
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>>162817063
>naxx 25 is only slightly easier than naxx 40

fucking hell /wpsg/
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why did blizzard ever think 40 was a good fucking idea?
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>>162817063
>implynigger forty level 60s are about as powerful as twenty-five level 80s
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Is this build fine for a rogue tank?
>Ghostly Strike on CD
>Riposte when it procs
>Feint as a filler
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>>162816640
Rockbiter is your weapon buff you will use for tanking to keep threat as well as earth shock for interruption/threat.

You won't be healing yourself since you mana will go to ls upkeep, shock up keep.

Either pick the shield bonus or dodge
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>>162817168
>>162817180
>>162817219
t. 1 mechanic bosses are hard
The irony is none of you have even done naxx 40 or 25
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Why the fuck do I even visit this thread when there is no server up.
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>>162817226
>rogue tank
>using threat reduction spell as filler
I will make you an actually good (dogshit) rogue tank build wait 1 min.
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>>162817330
The boss mechanics are the same in both raids, dipshit.
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>>162817330
wotlk naxx saw the majority of raid wiping mechanics either removed or dumbed down to the point of being ignorable

poison spits barely tickled, as opposed to fucking 2shotting the entire raid

that is not "slightly easier" and that's only a small aspect of the difference between the 2

if you died on saph 40, you were in a top guild because you even had the chance to make it that far

if you died on saph 25, you were a fucking retard
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>>162817482
this is bait
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>>162817226
>haha someone actually thinks they can shaman tank, better just meme out and sperg xdd
Stay mad rogue fag
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I keep seeing people refer to priests as being the most difficult healing class to play properly. You downrank spells and change gear according to the boss fight's average duration. What's so difficult about that?
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>>162817357
shitposting
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>tfw old pvp server has 2 months of life left in it
>tfw no time to grind another character on the new pvp server
:(
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>>162817625
At least rogue actually has a few talents and spells to improve "tankiness" and survivability., you retard.
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>>162817226
>>162817407
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fZ0xEd0VzbbZxbjohhoo
Weapon skill points don't really matter
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>>162816850
>>162817226
Priest is my favorite memetank

Find an overpowered mob to MC (like the scarlet monks or gordok reavers) and just carry that fucker through the whole instance
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>>162816302
There was no /nosg/ the first 1-2 months of the original Nostalrius.

/wpsg/ started on Nostalrius, /wpsg/ was the first general to conquer Nostalrius.
RIP <No Fun Allowed>.
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>>162817701
>what is shield block talent
>what is dodge talent
>what is rockbiter damage talent
>what is elemental resistance
>what is heal that gives you armor
Okay yeah youre right I guess :^) not like shamans have ANY of that
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>>162817726
>tfw you can't even MC most of the mobs in Kronos dungeons because of ebin scripting
>>
Mind Controlling isn't blizzlike...
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>>162817842
>Mind vision a mob on kronos
>It bugs out and mindvisions me instead
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>>162817482
The only difference is the damage is more, to compensate for higher player HP.

>>162817491
Wrong, you're comparison holds no weight as we aren't talking about retail where there was almost 4 year and an entire expansion gap between them.

If nostalrius released naxx after people were farming aq40 for months it would be fully cleared in 1 day, it's completely figured out and you can look up literally everything online.
Thanks for proving my point that /wpsg/ on average is much better than /nosg/ and /krog/
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>>162817701
Yeah for 5 mins and then your healer goes oom trying to keep your leather tanking skills. You can def capped at least as a shaman
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>>162814971
>muh raid dps
PvP is where you see if someone has skill or not.
Most people absolutely suck at PvP, like easily >95%. Of course you won't encounter good druids often as they are so rarely played in vanilla.
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>>162817946
Naxx40 is harder you dumbass.
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>>162817891
>Go to ogrimmar
>MC saurfang so i can cleave some noobies
>saurfang turns falls through the ground
>me:wtf
>suddenly fucker charges me through the floor and kills me shortly

FUCKING KRONOS
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>>162817774
Here's your (you) bait lord
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>>162818042
Now that's Blizzlike.
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>>162817929
>try to mind vision party member who isn't right next to me
>"target is out of range"
>can't bounce mind vision from the azshara FP over to azuregos spawn
>mob resists mind vision and aggros me
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>>162818032
Of course it is you retard. Still naxx 40 isn't hard in 2016, it will be cleared in 1 day if it ever releases all 4 wings at once
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>>162818203
>it will be cleared in 1 day
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>>162818232
Are you so shit that you don't think naxx 40 can be cleared in a day?
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>>162818284
We'll see my friend. Timeline says naxx will be release in September next year.

I'll give you 10 bucks if it IS cleared in one day.
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>>162817357
Who the fuck is going to visit this general once server goes live? Except for salty cucks and kronos refugees of course
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>>162818203
not even the most autistic and fully AQ BiS guild would possibly be able to put together enough FrR gear for saph
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Will anyone play on the old servers?
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>>162818334
Deal (if its even up that long)

>>162818378
Uhh have you played vanilla before?
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>>162818454
no, nobody
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>>162818203
>1 DAY
>>
>hurr durr one day
how do you get exalted with argent dawn for the frost res gear ine one day anon? :^)
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>>162818454
Every good guild is playing on the old but it remains to be seen how many will play on the new server when it releases

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AOVnzG4qXv-udLxKRTQK8GlkNlTT_yj5-Wyza4Yjte8/edit#gid=0
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>>162818232
>>162818515
>>162818564
You could easily set yourself up to have all the FR required for saph on day 1 if you were in a serious poopsock guild
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Remember the Scrubwell?
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>>162817030

But it's not gay if you like trannies, right?
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*blocks your path*
>I heard you've been playing nostalrius.

wat do /nosg/ ?
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>>162819084
You sound perfect for the Ally guild
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>>162818454
as far as I know, most "hardcore" raiding guilds will continue to raid on the old pvp server, then they will switch to raidlogging while starting new characters on the fresh server.
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>>162819141
Was that dude always obese like this?
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>>162819169
I am in a tryhard autist progression guild and can confirm this is what I will be doing
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>>162819158

Thanks bro, think I'll roll a cool retro paladin.
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>>162818774
doesn't matter if 50 guilds return, they will still only be raidlogging and overall the server will be dead.

Old nost will be the new K1 as soon as fresh gets released.
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>>162819224
Yeah, he was born like this.
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>have a top geared character on old Nost
>going to roll the same class and do it all over again when the fresh server releases

How do I cure my autism, guys?
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>>162819483
Got that DFT yet?
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>>162819483
are you me
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Somebody should make a strawpoll with known /nosg/ fags and have a vote to see who the most hated of them all is. Im guessing grimlic atm.
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>>162819158
but the ally guild doesn't have cuties like Anoka
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>>162819593
Stop posting about yourself an*ka its cringey
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how does oone get an invite to the alliance discord
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>>162819536
Anoka and Grimlic are really bad. So is FF and Snack
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>>162818109
>mind vision someone in wsg
>works everytime

really makes you think
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>>162819536
http://www.strawpoll.me/11881061
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>>162819847
add one of these

Notmadti#7077
Erlik#4852
Infamy#5916
crabs#3732
Rhox#4284
qlurf#6906
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>>162819536
ITS FUCKING BWG
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>>162813901
Like Paladins, Druids can't avoid getting crushed by bosses, so suddenly they can take like three 7k hits in a row without being able to do anything about it.

Warriors are the only class in vanilla who can put crushing blows off the damage table 100% of the time, so they are automatically the best tank.
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>>162820062
I dont even know half the people on this poll
>>
will this server allow a new player to get everything (mounts, items, timed events like An'qiraj opening etc) WoW had to offer since its very launch? Also, will it periodically patch to newer vanilla patches until it reaches the one pre-BC? And then BC and so on?
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>>162817637
>retailfag doesn't understand what relativity is
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>>162820449
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>>162816850
the most important thing to remember for a shaman tank is to position yourself and the boss properly. there needs to be 20 yards of range between your tranquil air totem and the back of the boss so that the melee can benefit from it without it reaching you.
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>mfw escape artist has the same cast time as rank 1 frost bolt
>gnome uses ea
>instantly hit with r1 frost bolt
>slowed or procced into nova again
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>>162819381
this. old cucks getting BTFO when new releases! Sad!
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>>162790832
Nost 2.0 will never live up to the original
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>>162820612
Gnome cucks deserve it for playing literally the gayest race in the game
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>>162820668

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks1uyR3Wp1o
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SOMEBODY GIVE ME AN INVITE TO THE ALLIANCE DISCORD RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
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>>162820779
https://discord.gg/VdUGJ
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>>162820779
it's pretty cancerous

they unironically don't think the chinks should be banned
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>>162820779
>>162820125
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>>162820867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjCp8Nkdtq4
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>>162820612
>>162820668
>tfw to intelligent to play anything else but a gnome
You monkeys wouldn't understand.
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>>162820867
Maybe they benefit from the chinks?
Chinks probably give them gold to watch them erp.
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>>162820945
ahahaha if this wasn't going to happen to nost 2.0 this would be pretty funny right now its just pretty spooky.
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>fresh cucks will miss out on all of this
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>>162820867

You actually fell for the alliance arent beta cucks IRL meme.

They shouldnt just be banned from the game, they should be banned from our countries. Canada for example, Chinks are ruining it just like Nost.
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>>162820612
>what's a global cooldown
lmao I bet you get your casts ice blocked still noob
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>>162821194
>tfw vancouverfag
>tfw can't go 3 feet without seeing a hindu or a chink
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>>162821141
>oldwang
>niuwang
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>>162821237
A
FUCKING
LEAF
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>releasing the server after winter break is over

i'm not even in school anymore but this is retarded
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>>162821237

>a hate crime
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>>162821231
Can't even tell what point youre trying to make desu
>>
how good are enh shamans in vanilla?
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>>162818796

You need the gear from the first wings to clear Patchwerk you idiot, its a gearcheck fight.
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>>162821897

Trash, like all shaman specs.
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>>162821897

Good for pvp.
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>>162821897
God tier with Sulfuras and windfury. :^)
Does windfury even work on nostalrius?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja1j7xWpB3w
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>>162821948
Patchwork is doable in aq40 gear idiot
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>>162822093

Yea, it worked. It was bugged for a while not adding the extra AP, but Im pretty sure it was working by the time it finished, your AP would spike a second before the proc and physically show it in your stats menu.
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>>162822120

Naxx was purposely designed to be impossible to clear without the gear from the first wings. Theres a video of people in retail trying to push through an "impossible" section before it was fully released, and they just got annihilated in full 2.5
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>>162822179
lel no it never worked

in the end you got 2 extra attacks and the AP added AFTER them, meaning you had increased AP for 0.1secs while nothing happened
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>>162821948
the concept of gearcheck on private server is a joke unless bosses are overtuned

you have players reaching DPS levels in MC because of how optimised raid environments and gear setups are that outpace what was considered "impossible" (4-500 DPS on c'thun tentacles, 600 DPS on patchwerk)

vael was considered a "gear check" and most guilds immediately blow through him with 1 tank death max
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>>162822263
because people in retail hadn't been playing the game for 10 years

you need 9500dps to beat the enrage timer
let's say you have 25 dps

so everyone needs to do 400-500 dps on average

that's easily doable in full BWL gear
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>>162822420

Yeah.

On paper.
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>>162822334

Nah, Im pretty sure it was a half assed fix where they made your character gain the AP on the stat page before the proc, but not long enough to gain a bonus on your next swing... as a fix to a bug where it simply wasnt part of the actual spell, the bonus AP on the extra swings.

In retail, it never showed your bonus AP in the stat page when WF would proc.

>>162822351

In retail, Patchwerk would enrage before you could reach the dps targets. It was done to force you to get gear from the earlier fights. Retail naxx 40 was no joke, but you are right, private servers are easier than retail.
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>>162822263
>2016
>retail
Nah youre a retard you can do pw in 2.5 in fucking 2016. So many retards here think 40 man naxx is some immensely hard raid on private servers
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>>162822420
yeah, because vanilla WoW was so complicated that people playing the game for 14 hours every single day couldn't understand the intense mathematics behind boss encounters

in fact, I don't think math existed 12 years ago
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>>162821194
i've played both factions on enough servers to make this generalization

A L L I A N C E
>youngest and oldest players
>helpful, cooperative
>behave maturely
>leans right wing
>way more RP fags
>RPing is basically an ironic meme
>more foreign players
>better economy
>better @ BGs
>better city locations
>more comfy cities
>more active players
>worst leveling zones past lvl 30
>way more "females"
>way more ACTUAL female players
>generally relaxed and fun atmosphere
>lots of "loners"
>guilds are all nepotistic as fuck

H O R D E
>college aged males
>competitive, selfish, cut throat
>juvenile & vexatious
>leans left wing
>very few foreign players
>worse economy
>ninjalooters
>better individual PvPers/duelers
>meme and edgelords galore
>shitty cities
>shitty city locations
>more players, but less active
>better levelign zones
>generally feels like a really lame fratparty
>better racials
>better immersion
>better, stricter guild leaders

i'll be rolling warlock, can't decide on a faction yet
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>>162822545
>>162822420

Your healers would also oom without naxx gear, and even with naxx gear its pretty much a given youre not going to have all your tanks survive.
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>>162822532
patchwerk is the definition of "on-paper" DPS

there is 1 mechanic and it affects only healers (and gives tanks a lot of rage)
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>>162822532
your rogues, warriors, mages and locks should do 600-700+ in full T2

>>162822605
holy shit this thread is so fucking retarded
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>>162822628
Thunder Bluff is better than ever city but Ironforge, faggot.
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>>162822549

>Nah youre a retard you can do pw in 2.5 in fucking 2016.

No you cant, because retail Naxx 40 doesnt exist in 2016.

>this idiot thinks hes king shit because his raid group clears private server bosses
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>>162822628
I played both factions on Kronos 2, and I can confirm that Horde was virulently for Bernie and Alliance was full of Trump spam.

I agree with most of what you posted, although I think that you left out something crucial, which is that there are way more retards who don't know what they are doing playing alliance than on horde.
>>
>>162822628
>warlock
Please, play as gnome. I will have veri meni fun while slaying you as undead :)
>>
>>162822605
Youre grossly underestimating how much people csn improve their play in 10 years compared to 2. Sure some top players have always been doing it right but 90% of the player base in 1.12 really didn't know how to maximize their characters

>>162822736
That was a really good post
>>
>>162822628
accurate
>>
>>162822704
700+ is overstated. you get those numbers because of 50 second bossfights where DPS cooldowns have huge uptime - on patchwerk it would be a lot more moderate (incidentally, round about the 500 necessary for patchwerk)

reminder that vael was considered a gearcheck and a guildbreaker back in the day
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>>162822628

>horde
>leans left

Lol no.

Alliance on nost was absolutely full of "anti-racists" who would boot you for making jokes about jews.

Horde was an extension of /pol/. Especially the barrens.
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>>162822924
lmao stop being shit
>>
>>162822858
The top guild in the entire world couldn't clear it in 1 day. Would you like to enlighten Nihilum on what exactly they were doing wrong? What forbidden knowledge were they missing?
>>
le aunt poisoner
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>>162822972
Another quality post nice. I don't know what mistakes nihlium was making on their naxx runs but im sure they were making quite a few since theres been over a decade to analyze the game.
You have autism youre not even bringing a point youre just ass hurt
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>>162806940

Says the guy getting farmed by chinese lvl 60s while hes still only 28
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>>162822605
>people didn't even spec right back then
>people used fire resist gear
>people didn't gear right
>people didn't know all the various ways to glitch the fights or position themselves to trivialize them


all of this combined means that players farmed slower, got gear slower, got mats slower, etc

on nost/K2 you could get 100's of gold for like $5, gold was never that cheap on vanilla retail

it was routine for tanks to be running 500g worth of flasks at once twice a week, something virtually impossible in actual vanilla retail

>>162822940
Alliance has all the cucks who get outraged over racism, but in general also is the most right wing. Horde I agree is the most vocally racist and right wing, but if you dig beneath the surface or talk to guildies they are all fucking communist faggots who are just memeing.
>>
>>162823109

Oh yea, Naxx 40 was a joke, it was just about skill.. Ha ha, I mean, look at this private server loatheb kill, they didnt even need consumables!

Stupid retail players, farming tubers and raid mats endlessly, what were they thinking.

They just needed to get gud.
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>>162823280
you can look at videos of guilds attempting cthun pre-nerf, and you see healers with 0 consumables (not chaining pots, not even using mageblood or mana oil let alone flasking, not downranking), DPS aren't chaining resistance pots, nobody is flasked, the tanks aren't chaining stoneshield, trash debuffs like hemo and serpent sting are up on the boss and spawns... fuckin hell, the anecdote about nihilum's first kill was "OK LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT BE SUCCEEDING EVERYBODY POP FLASK EVERYONE POP YOUR FLASK" which was considered over the top and controversial at the time
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>>162823280

>Alliance has all the cucks who get outraged over racism, but in general also is the most right wing.

If you define National Socialism as a left wing ideology.

People freaking out about racism are the same ones pushing for open borders, they are cultural marxism robots.

The other side is considered right wing, "ultra-nationalist" types, "you have to go back!"
>>
>tfw already part of the Horde and Alliance cliques

looking forward to taking all your loot despite not having any skill whatsoever. Thanks faggots :)
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>>162823502
yes *sniff* truly so
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>>162823551
>willingly raiding with a /wpsg/ guild

lmaoing at your life
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>>162823554
>>162823554
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