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Digital goodies edition

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Routed Thread:
>>162702847
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>>162744817
Rollan!
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The maze, Dolores
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I've never played a Legendary campaign before and I want Vlad Daddy to be my first.
Yay or nay?
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>>162744946
literally the worst meme
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>>162744946
I can't see the maze in that circle, explain?
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>>162744817
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>>162745038
Yay, although expect lots and lots of cheating from the ai
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Reminder to thank CA for ruining my Wednesday
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>>162745151
>5.4
Go to hell.
I get 1.4 max.
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Bilbali, Magritta, Miragliano, Luccini and Tobaro should all be separate 1-province factions
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>>162745243
Where the hell are you, Australia?
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EQUITES
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>>162745095

Forced meme.
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>>162745148
Best Daddy has cheats of his own!
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>>162745038

You dont play Legendary campaigns for fun, you play for suffering

That and you know the ins and outs of the AI's stupidity and exploit it
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>>162745430
Not him but I've been thinking about doing a legendary but there's a high chance that I'd just auto-cheese it.
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>>162745415

Is Vlad secretly a Celt?
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>kislev conquers Talabecland by turn 26
damn
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>>162745632
He's a Wiccan Battanian
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>>162744817

Where is this map?
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>>162745796
I had kislev take the entire north half of the empire in my empire campaign and I couldn't adequately confederate, they were my main source of trade income too so no war
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fucking black orcs man
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>>162745796
>want to get blazing knights
>requires lvl 5 city and Talabecland never wants to confederate

I just want to praise the sun.
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>>162744898
By Sigmar, NO!
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>>162744898
Not Grombrindal
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>>162746313
By Sigmar, YES!
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>>162746137
Grudge Throwers did mad work, though. Artillery is good in this game. Did you put the Quarrelers against the other ranged units? What did you do?
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>>162746376
I don't want to play daddy Volkmar ;_; Empire always gets buttfucked by beastmen who have this sick perversion of ALWAYS showing up when I take windhelm or inviting marienburg to war with me...
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>>162746519
I meant Helmgart of course.
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Wow they realy made those changes to Welfs permanent?

They realy dont give a shit to unit balance
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>>162746440
they only did that much mad work because I had to fire straight in to combat because african american orcs were slaughtering my dorfs

I put some of the quarrelers in to melee after board started to flank but most of the time they were ranged vs ranged
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>>162746519

>windhelm

Yeah, fucking khajits shitting up our country.
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>>162746692

>Wildwood Rangers doing well against Hammerers & Black Orcs

I wouldve been find with just a couple archer buffs why the fuck would CA buff their infantry too?
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Hotfix release when? I want to farm years with Welfs
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>>162747017
it's already released
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Hotfix for the hotfix when? I don't want a single archer stack to kill entire armies.
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>>162746967
is the tabletop anon here?

I wonder how wildwood rangers actually compete
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any patchnotes?
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>>162747137
Elves would get kills first and if they dont win quickly they will get grinded down to powder over a few turns
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Can I recruit Durthu when I conquer him as Orion?
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>>162747137
>>162747293

This. Elves have crazy high initiative, meaning they are almost always going first unless it's against other Elves.

Used correctly elite infantry can obliterate entire enemy units before they can swing back.
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>Gobbo Archers
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Not a fan of aggressive wood elves fucking up humans everywhere.
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>>162744946
This is a bad meme. Now I know the meme here is that it's a bad meme so I'll post it every thread but the problem is that that does not make it a good meme on the end ironic shitposting is still shitposting, my dude
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>>162744898
Gimme them neets or the poopoo peepee
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>>162747137
Depends on unit sizes. Wildwood rangers are favoured by smaller unit sizes on the TT, while black orcs and hammerers are favoured by big ones.
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>>162746967

Wildwood Rangers were a bit disappointing before the patch.

I do think that they went overboard on it.
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>>162747726
What, you thought elves wouldn't be complete scum?
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>>162747237
yup
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>>162744898
SAY MY NAME!
A
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M
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N
A
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!
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>mow there are shitters that don't know how to play WELFs and think they need a buff.
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>>162747905
Makes the campaign less interesting when there are fewer powerful humans to kill.
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>>162747759
time for MALAGOR

shame I got the worst Poopoopeepee man though
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>>162747995
so how did you use the wildwood rangers pre buff?

oh wait I know, you didn't use them because they were shit
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>>162747642
Not only do elves have high initiative but they also have Always Strikes First, which is self explanatory.
The glaives the wildwood rangers have are great weapons though, and while that makes them better at killing, those give you Always Strikes Last.
However the two special rules cancel eachother out and you get to attack on your far above average elven initiative

Yay
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>>162747929
The absolute madman
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>>162748047
Ok got me there wildwoods probs needed a buff
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>>162745351
literally anywhere other than a big city m8
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>>162747995

>Try to design a race built around speed and forest battles
>Arrows still blocked by trees because shitty game design
>Instead of allowing Welf archers to just shoot through trees, we just buff everything about them

Time to stand in the open and have Shogun 2 battles with Glade Guard/Eternal Guard spam.

Thanks CA, really captured the essence of Wood Elves.
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What's /twg/'s opinion on http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=759346526 ?
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>>162747929
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wtf i want purpals to be grouped with their kind of unit
this is INSUFFERABLE
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>>162746692
Just wait to see how long it takes reddit to realise they ruined it

requesting 'Patrick we saved the city' edit to level of 'Poor Little white goy'
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>>162748159
barracks was literally not worth upgrading to lvl3 before
t. played the mini campaign on VH and GC on H but never recruited any rangers
Hard on GC was much too easy though so I'll have to play it again on VH/Legendary from reconquista
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>>162747519
you get him only by confederating
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So why do regular Deepwood scouts not get the range buff?
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>>162748194
Gonna need $20 more for that engine change, another $20 for those regiments of renown, and another $20 just because fuck you.
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>>162748259
what?
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>>162748476

They do.
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What's the difference between black orcs and regular orcs anyway
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>>162748487
>whilst still being able to fire at them

bit fucking pointless when you can't hit them
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>>162746692
>Beastmen come out, all their units suck, no one cares and they never get buffed
>Elves come out, a few of their units suck, redditors complain en masse and CA immediately hotfixes them to be the strongest faction in the game
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Shouldn't Vlad be the leader of the cunts?
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>>162748516

RoR units are not grouped alongside their normal counterpart. Stirlands Revenge are not right next to the FCM.

Doesn't really matter inbattle though as you can rearrange them there.
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>>162747929
Roughslaughter Metalskin
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>>162748516
the regiments of renown aren't placed next to their normal unit versions on the army tab
>>162748662
orcs are orcs, bloodthirsty fungi from space.
Black orcs are genetically modified bloodthirsty fungi made by chaos dwarfs
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>>162748487
>another $20 for those regiments of renown
???????
you mean $10?
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>>162748662

Black orcs were bred selectively for superior physical and cooler temperaments by the Chaos Dwarfs.
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>>162748662
Black orcs take everything seriously, especially fighting.
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>>162748791
But like, they look the same
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>wissenland gets fucked by trees
>dwarves and gobbos come to finish the job
10/10
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>>162748487
>All be it
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>162748679
that's because everyone loves elves including myself but not one cares for Poopoopeepee """"""men""""""" I do though and it hurts ;_;
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>>162748679

I think it has to do with the lore why nobody cared. Beastmen having shitty units kind of makes sense since they're about numbers and just chaotic in nature.
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>>162748660

Still 160 compared to everybody else's 180 range.

Unless their range was 140 before?
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>>162748679
>beastmen suck
wew lad, on the tabletop sure
>>162748845
they're larger, stronger, smarter and better organized than normal orcs
also they have a darker green skin than normal orcs
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>>162748845

They weren't bred to look different, they were bred to be better and stronger slaves
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>>162748913

>half a dozen quotation marks

What the fuck is with that meme anyway.
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>>162748953
it was 140.
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>>162749083
how new
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>>162748679

Beastmen are fucking outrageously good, once you start stacking those army-wide buffs in the campaign they turn into murderrape machines.

In multiplayer Minotaurs are still the scariest unit to face. They wreck the still buffed Eternal Guard.
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>>162748194
>Instead of allowing Welf archers to just shoot through trees
I feel like tons of people would start complaining about this if they did do it.
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>>162748953

The patch notes definitely say they got the buff
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>>162749083
they're more goat than man tbqh
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>>162748679
Minotaurs are still my favourite unit in this game.
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>>162749185
eternal guard didnt get buffed, they were just made cheaper
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>>162749325

Sorry, meant Wildwood Rangers. Eternal Guard should always be decimated by Minotaurs.
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WHAT
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>>162749185
Wood elves have huge army-wide campaign buffs too. Now their campaign is gonna be a pushover
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>>162748662

Black orcs have darker skin and armor and are super disciplined for an Orc

They actually clean their armor and weapons before a fight and never quarrel among themselves unlike the rest of the other greenskins

Plus they look cooler
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>>162749423
Oh, I see you've met the WORST thing to happen to the Dwarf campaign. Have fun, nigga. Hope you built walls.
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Probably a stupid question, /twg/ but does the new hotfix/patch require me to start a new campaign again or can I continue the one I was playing pre-patch?
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>>162749423
IT'S HAPPENING
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>>162749508
>They actually clean their armor and weapons before a fight and never quarrel among themselves unlike the rest of the other greenskins
Are you squiggin me?
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>>162749423
I sure hope you've built those walls, fellow dawi.
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>>162749423

Can't let dorfs and orcs have it completely calm with the End Times occurs.

Hopefully the Tomb Kings will help solve the Badlands Brawl.
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>>162748756

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=758184450

He should by default yes
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>>162748953
The problem with ranged units is that contrary to melee units they dont have a main line, which is the one actualy doing damage in combat, and instead act all together at all times, this means that unless there's significant differences in their reload speed and/or missile damage they will never be on par with bigger, cheaper units.
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>>162749552

It only changed stats, so it should be compatible. There's only one way to find out anyway.

>>162749537

Shouldn't be a problem, everyone build walls and garrisons.

.... right?
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>>162749596
>Hopefully the Tomb Kings will help solve the Badlands Brawl.
Grimgor already loses every time though.
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>>162748679
Jabberslythe/Ghorgon would really round out the Beastmen roster a lot by giving them some major damage-soakers/heavy-hitters.

Harpies are a neat addition but are basically as valuable as Vampire Bats (they can be used to harass artillery but otherwise they get obliterated under any kind of focus fire).
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Do Handgunners replace Crossbowmen?
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>>162749657

Worst part is that CA will never go back and fix that.
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How do you deal with expanding as Wood Elves?

Do you raze then colonise or just colonize, razing lands you don't plan on holding at the moment? (I've got 200,000 in the bank from razing the Badlands/Dwarven Karak)

Do you build the "special" buildings like lumber camps/quarries? The income or damage increase buildings?

I like to build at least one of the replenishment camps in a province which helps with resettling.

Fuck now I think about it Wood Elves replenish faster than VC.
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>>162749751
Not really.

Crossbowmen can shoot OVER your infantry line.

Handgunners will attempt to shoot through it, you need to flank with Handgunners for them to be effective.
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>>162749581

>They have even been known to clean and repair their gear after battle or begin their occasional military drills that would help them prepare for the next conflict. Such unnatural activities often leads to constant discrimination by their Greenskin brethren.
>Most Greenskins can never comprehend the Black Orcs killjoy behavior, preferring instead to whoop and revel in jubilant victory celebrations, such as Skull-Stacking contests or seeking out every opportunity to engage in a brawl or pit-fight.

Theres a nice touch CA did with the Black Orcs and its that they don't yell or scream at all while out of combat, they just look really eager to fight. Compare that to the other orc units who just do war cries all day

Shame it didnt carry over to the Krimson Killaz
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Is there a mod that makes the campaign less predictable? Currently Wood Elves and Dwarves destroy all the other factions in my campaigns. AI empire doesn't stand a chance anymore with elves fucking them in the ass.
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>>162748756
>>162749657
>>162749814
Vlad is the old-hat, Mannfred was the focus of the VC in the most recent editions.

His model got updated more frequently, he had more of a focus in the End Times, and since the Age of Shitmar he has been the main VC character in the lore.

This game largely takes place right before the End Times, so the focus on Mannfred as the leader of the VCs makes sense.
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>>162749851

Get port income upgrade, then invade Norsca.

Then sack and raze the everliving shit of anyone who tries to declare war on you.
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>>162750301

And everybody hates him.
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>>162750246
Sorry goy, you have to wait for the Bretonnia FLC to finish the Wood Elf DLC pack; current aggressiveness was just a temporary measure to make them seem interesting!
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>>162749552
Mine works just fine and I'm playing welfs.
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>opened my completed WE save
>income raised from 7k to 50k

lads...
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Is Rome II good now that there's a new season of Time Commanders using it?
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>>162750484
No
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>>162744898
This cannot possibly go wrong
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>>162750337
I don't, I appreciate a man who is willing to cut off his nose to spite his own face out of pride/stubbornness.

People constantly spat on, disrespected, or belittled Mannfred and his ambitions; in the end of the day Mannfred was the cause of all of their deaths.

He won.
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>>162748679
Because redditards want power fantasies of being these epic soldiers not deformed babies abandoned by the gods and their parents
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>>162750301
>and since the Age of Shitmar he has been the main VC character in the lore.

Someone at GW needs to be summarily executed.

>>162750246

There is no mod that changes AI behaviour outside of diplomatic stuff.

I really, really wish we had different AI personalities to the factions. Marienburg shouldn't be as hyper-aggressive as they are, it's only because they get mad dosh from the port which allows them to swallow nearby provinces. Bretonnia shouldn't be such a bitch in the campaign either, it's awlays the neighbouring factions that do the most work.
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>>162746156
Talabecland is pretty much always the first country to confederate with me, I guess you're just a faggot

>>162745796
>no unique Kislev units

Time to drive those imperials who aren't imperials out of the empire

Fuck the Kislevites, vodka war now!
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>>162750246
>>162750346

There needs to be a mod that gives them the "Defensive" trait in the diplomacy screen
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>>162750301

Shut up Mannfred, no one likes you and Vlad wishes you weren't his son.
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>>162750484
that shit was as unbalanced on TV as it is irl, looking forward to the Napoleon episode though
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>>162750532

>Creating Age of Sigmar is Mannfred's legacy.

I can't hate him enough.
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So what's the deal with wood elves now in this patch?
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>>162750532

Aren't you a little too short to be a post here, Mannlet?
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>>162750301

>"and since the Age of Shitmar he has been the main VC character in the lore."
>Age of Skubmar
>"Characters"

Fucking lel

I do like that you bring up The End TImes as if they're a point in Mannfred's favor when Mannfred's entire role in TET is to be a stupid idiot who never does anything right, gets constantly admonished by all the characters around him and in fact is so monstrously idiotic that he ultimately causes the END OF THE ENTIRE WORLD through sheer spite and thoughtlessness.
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>>162750648
Major factions should get buffs, minor factions should not

The elf AI shouldn't be able to upgrade their stupid tree before turn 50 or something like that, to prevent them from confederating early

There I fixed the game
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WHY THE FUCK DO THEY KEEP DOING THIS
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>>162751295

Atleast post the enemy army too, anon
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>>162751404
2 v 2 standard humans with mixed cav, mortars, infantry... though they've 4 warrior priests or something disgusting mixed in.

Unless you can see the roster on the battlefield...
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>>162751310

>patched Wildwood Rangers are literally what I expected out of Slayers before the game came out

It hurts
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>>162750870
I feel like this is the reason most people hate Mannfred as opposed to the character himself, because you can easily find many characters written much worse then Manny in Warhammer lore.

>>162750685
I like Vlad a lot, I do. I just feel like he is too perfect of a character. He is basically just a noble badass vampire who beats down everyone/everything in his path and his only real character flaw is sometimes he gets flustered and needs his wife to calm him down?

Mannfred as a character at least is very flawed and more believable/interesting in my opinion.

>>162751032
Nigga you just sound mad as fuck that he won, because as a result you lost.
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>>162751576

At least slayers are unbreakable
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>elves beta buffed
>literally unstoppable now
>out range enemy archers so you can kill their ranged before they can close that 20m gap or more
Jesus christ this is hilariously powerful
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>>162748232
Haven't used it in a while mainly because the ai just spams ROR and I can't remember if that mod lets the minor factions use them
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>>162751645

>Nigga you just sound mad as fuck that he won

By what possible metric did Mannfred win?

He didn't fucking know that the world ending would result in him respawning in a meme universe where he is suddenly important.

Chaos won The End Times, Mannfred caused Chaos to win by backstabbing Gelt.
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>>162751507

I cant really tell for sure without seeing the enemy's complete army but you need more cav for sure famalam

Use your flagellants to flank and your spearmen to hold the line, focus fire the warrior priests with your crossbows
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>>162751996
He got his final revenge over a world he felt had wronged him/robbed him of something.

Sounds like winning.
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>>162751795
elves don't have arty you scrub
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>>162749853
If I ask them to shoot a unit that's engaging my front line will I get friendly fired?
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>>162752176
Not really, there is friendly fire but it's not nearly as bad in this game as it was in past total wars. Instead it'll just say "obstructed" if they can't get a good shot over your units heads.
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>>162752151

>get memed on
>WAAH I WISH THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD JUST GO AWAY

kek what a manchild
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>>1627521
>have 6 units that can fucking remove the artillery from the equation
Neither do VC and they're really good you dumb nigger
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Any good movies/series about the Sengoku period you guys could recommend??
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>>162750764
From that off hand comment on Napoleon, I realized that despite owning both I've never played Napoleon TW, only Empire.
How different of an experience NTW is when compared to ETW? Should I look into mods?
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>>162752541
Ran

Heaven and Earth (1990)
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>>162752541

Sengoku Basara
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>>162752541
Throne of Blood, Ran, Kagemusha (about Takeda Shingen, Oda Nobunaga etc.) basically all the Kurosawa films
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>>162749736
Because Grimgor is the worst.

Skarsnik > Wurrzag > Grimgor > Azhag
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>>162749508
And a Black Orc was my first character in Warhammer Online.
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>>162752864
The perfect period piece.
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>>162749537
>not building walls in every town and province
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>>162752572
NTW is basically just an improved Empire, but with reduced scope on the campaign

It's perfectly playable in vanilla, but if you absolutely want mods, play with LME or NTW3
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>>162750528
hur hur hur hur hur hur hur hur
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>>162744898
something good pls
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>>162744898

Rollen
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We got them right where we want them!
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>>162753545
THEY ARE COOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>162753649
>>162753545
where the fuck can I watch the first episode without needing a proxy
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>>162744898
Rolling.
>>
No, no they fucking don't!
Why is CA lying to us?
Or was that fixed with an update?
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>>162751645
Long time fantasy player, in terms of characters it goes

>God tier
Settra, Queek, Skarsnik, Arkhan,

>Good tier
KF, Thanquol, Malekith, Vlad, Greasus Goldtooth

>OK tier
Khalida, Morathi, High Elf characters, Green Knight, Katarina, Mannfred, Grimgor

>Shit tier
Everything else

>Fanfic tier
Archaon
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>>162753889
AI chaos leaves rifts.
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WORTH
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>By Jupiter.
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>>162754278
least you'll get the battlefield summons.
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>>162754278
what the fuck happened
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>>162754602
>I have awoken in Elysium
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>>162748047
Wildwood Rangers needed a buff, but they've gone overboard a bit. I also won't begrudge glade guard/riders the damage buff, but Glade Guard really didn't need the 180 range on top of it. I won't begrude the exra 20m on either Deepwood Scout variant, though. Or on Waywatchers unless they eventually get Snipe on top of it.

Handing out higher missile range than any other missile infantry to the cheapo Glade Guard has some pretty big problems. For one, Quarellers now can't kill the fuckers if there's a minimum of micro involved. That's a problem because Quarellers are basically the only cost-effective counter Dorfs have for dealing with low-costed skirmishers like that.

Basically, I'm fine with the buffs except they could mellow down the Rangers a bit (them beating up Black Orcs is kinda bullshit) and remove the extra range on Glade Guard.
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>>162754278
how are you so bad
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>>162754602
>Tfw you're going to cry because of all the proud Romans that died to bring you victory
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>>162754784
you're completely forgetting that dwarfs have a huge advantage over the elfs in arty
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I love Gregg Wallace.
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>>162748662
Basically, the Chaos Dwarfs wanted a better slave-soldier. They got the second part spot-on, but the first part kinda blew up in their faces. So now their little supersoldier program escaped into the wild, started breeding and they're just happy that nobody has any clue to whom they owe having to deal with a new breed of bigger, nastier and more disciplined Orcs.
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>>162754718
>>162754832
I-I'm not used to VH battle difficulty. Didn't expect the ghouls to just melt everything before I could do anything about it, and then Dieter healed himself from 5% health up to 50%.
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>>162755014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk

never knew he was a historu buff. Peopel can surprise you.
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remember
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>>162749853
Well, unless they're shooting at big units engaging your frontline. No problem firing over other state troops' heads to fuck up those trolls.
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Why come there won't be an episode with Medieval 2?
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>>162755241
>He has to go and present Master Chef to normies
>All he wants to do is play his Saxon campaign and shitpost Westworld memes to /twg/

Must be hard.
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>>162755237
>VH battle difficulty
don't, just lower it to hard or normal, the AI gets retardedly huge buffs on VH
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>>162753889

No they don't, beastmeme ones will.
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>>162755293
People will call it ugly and Gregg will cry.
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>>162749423
BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION!
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>>162755293
they need to use a game that works
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are the two new wizards for the empire any good?
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>smash both of Marienburg's 2 stacks
>some shitty dwarf band steals the siege
this is absolutely disgusting
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>>162755795
shadow is good
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>>162755795
They're both amazing.
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>>162754964
Arty isn't a cost-effective way to deal with cheap skirmishers.
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>>162755293
Outdated(I am not saying it is shit). That's it really.
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>>162755597
>>162755741
But God wills it!
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>>162755445
casual
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>>162756039
>artificial difficulty
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>>162755825
Well, you will get it anyway afterwards.
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>>162756013
Why Deus Vult when you can Deus Taal?

Warhammer Commanders when?
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Undead bully not so tough since being molested
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>>162755445
I win every battle on very hard, get good
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>>162753832
I player with British VPN, it's how we watch your American shows
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>>162756226
nice job
>>
BY JUPITER WE HAVE THEM
>>
Ungors makes the qtest noises ever.
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>>162756142
FUCK OFF OTTILIAN SCUM


STIRLAND AND SIGMAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162755795
Lore of shadow has buffs and reliable damage spells.

Lore of life has buffs/debuffs and gives you healing.

They're both pretty damn good.
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>>162753832
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:cdaf373ef1166aedf4c1ef3d38c4c6730d0d41e7&dn=Time.Commanders.s03e01.Rome.EN.SUB.MPEG4.x264.WEBRIP.%5bMPup%5d&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fzer0day.to%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fglotorrents.pw%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce
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>>162756360
Who do Hochland worship?

I've always had a soft spot for those bastards.
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>>162756448
>that fucking tranny
>>
>(good goy) removed from OP
I wonder who could be behind this thread.
>>
>playing nice Rome campaign
>got the two Gaul settlements below the alps
>gauls sign for peace whilst I build up my stacks
>rebel province in nice I can get
>for some reason they're militia phalanx
>breach their gate
>Rome Total War.exe has stopped responding
Nigga Wat
and I can't remember last time I saved ;-;
>>
>shitters whine about singleplayer being too hard
>CA listens

Eternal/glade guard spam is going to be the new Brettonian peasant spam build. Same strategy of just clicking units for your archers to instakill while your spears sit in melee forever. Instead of Louen/paladin squad it will be Glade lord/waywatcher/life caster for max arrow of kurnous/heal spam. Literally no skill required to win beyond making sure your archers don't get rear-charged; but even if they do you can just focus fire with all your other archers to remove the threat
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>>162756346
a besto
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>tfw you have to write letters to the mothers and wives of your soldiers after a disastrous skirmish in Africa

At least I will be woken in Elysium.
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>>162756275
doesn't make it not a chore, giving the enemy ridiculous bonuses to make it more difficult is boring as fuck.
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>>162757186
>tfw you don't have to write any letters as you also died in the battle
ha, always one step ahead!
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Truly the greatest of Legendary Lords!
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>>162756505
It's mostly sigmar IIRC. A lot of the poorer and hardy provinces seem to find Sigmar popular.

>>162756732
Nusbacher wanted Time Commanders to happen again he offered his male gender to the BBC demons.
>>
I ain't seeing the patch 5 hotfix beta on Steam. Did they remove it?
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>>162757521
>Did they remove it?
Yes because it's not beta anymore, the hotfix went live
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>>162757521
I think it got offically released.
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>>162757521
the hotfix is live
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>>162757575
>>162757578
>>162757586
But I don't want OP elves.
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>>162756873
And it happened again
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>>162745151
I get 900kb/s

So you can go cry me a fucking river
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>>162757681
The only thing OP are the glade guard. Wildwood are supposed to be better than empire greatswords.
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>>162757681
Well tough shit

Multiplayer is just bretonnia peasant spam vs wood elf eternal guard spam now
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Does anyone here actually use global recruitment?
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>>162757971
All the time. Lategame money isn't an issue, and Welfs get research that reduces the recruitment time by 1 turn.
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Smart army composition you got there Thorgrim.
I'm sure nothing could go wrong.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>162757971
Sometimes but with Wood Elves and their tech to reduce the time by 1 it's really fucking good!
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>>162758212
WOULD YOU FUCKING STOP THEY GOT ANNOUNCED OVER A YEAR AGO YOU FAGGOT
>>
I'm not seeing any adjustment for Eternal guard. Everyone complained they were shit now everyone is saying they're GOAT? What the fuck did they change? Rec cost is that big of a deal?
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>>162757971
When I'm rich and I'm recruiting en masse, yes. It's good when you're already recruiting a unit that takes two turns to recruit, but you also want to grab some units that take one turn to recruit (and therefore two turns with global recruitment).
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>>162758339
It's a big deal in multiplayer/custom battles
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Poor little Beast Boy
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>>162757971
pretty much neccessary with wood elves every time you unlock new units.
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>>162758195
Good luck trying to auto-resolve that.
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>>162757971
For stuff like the Empire it's realy freaking hard to have all your late game production where you need it, it's especialy annoying when it's for simple stuff like Gunners or Halbardiers

If i have to stop to build a steam tank i might aswell recruit everything else from global and be done with it at the same time
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>Stunties seriously think their tinkerers can compare to the Nuln gunnery school

lmao
>>
How long do your guys typical make your Legendary games last?
>>
Wait, regiments of renown aren't free?
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>>162758334

No they didnt you raging autist
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>>162758678
silly goy
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>>162758862
They really are milking this cow dry...
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goddamit
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>>162759107
TZEENTCH WAS WEAK
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>>162758586
>All of those longbeards
>A fucking slayer
>no quarrelers

Shit player.
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>>162758586
>Empire or Dwarf engineering
>remotely good

lmaoing at you man-thing
>>
>>162752354
>mannfred was Warhammer's version of the BETA UPRISING

Should he be the patron saint of /r9k/?
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>>162759245
Isn't that basically Archaon? Hates chaos a lot, but couldn't escape his fate as the everchosen, so he decides to end everything, including the chaos gods
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>>162759408
>explodes in green fire and rat fur.
>>
Guys

If I disband this guy will this effect still be active?

I have too many armies from confederating Clan angrund
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>>162758586
>censoring your name
>and not censoring you opponents name

What the fuck are you afraid of, nigger?
>>
>>162759408
Amen brother! Skaven will surely rule this world
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>>162759408
>Literally a looted Empire tank but shittier
Rat """"Technology"""" everyone
>>
>>162753889
>>162755539
Proving the thing I keep saying which is that Chaos Warriors feels like a shitty cosmetic mod instead of an actual faction
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>>162759717

Doubt that since for all intents and purposes he's not in the game anymore.
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>>162759731
let's not have a shitstorm again, shall we?

remove name
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>>162749083
>>162749181
>>162759753

Okay, can someone please tell me why people are adding a billion quotation marks on things or is it because they're posting from a phone or something?
>>
>>162759717
Not sure but you should be fine since disbanded heroes can be assigned to empire and welf councils
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>>162757704
Conquered the province and got arminium upgraded thanks to my slavery skills.

HELP
E
L
P
what's a good army comp in early game Rome as the julii
I was thinking
>general
>5 hastati to do a 3 block front row and 2 block reserves
>2 equites
>2 velites
>3 archers
>2 ballistae
>3 hastati
This would be the army that garrisons and takes out opportunistic rebel factions, good?
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>>162760002
Extra quotations indicate an even looser use of that word or term than just standard quotations
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>>162760002
If you think hard enough I think you can figure it out
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>>162760002
Lurk more, faggot.
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Whoever decided to buff Glade/eternal guard at CA needs to be drawn and quartered

I fucking iced durthu early on in this battle and both of my knights got into his glade guard but even with their 25% magic resist you can just pull one archer out and shoot anything in the back for an insta-rout. Once I broke his line I had to chase his fucking wavering units across the map since apparently his eternal guard units w/ 2-3 elfs left had a chance against my full strength halberds i kept in reserve
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>>162759731
Stop using my name
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>>162759753
>no other faction smart enough to use poison gas
>all those dwarfs choking on blood
>cavalry collapsing as the horses suffer instant pneumonia

Going to be fucking glorious reenacting Ypres on the stunties.
>>
>>162759408
>Looted Rattank rolls onto the battlefield
>A wheel bumps against a rock, breaks and gets launched off the tank, killing a nearby globadier
>dead globadier explodes, causing a hundred clanrats to die from his toxic farts
>the tank keeps rolling on anyway and crunches through dozens of skaven to get near the battlefield
>the noxious gas its engine belches at its back kills off a legion of slaverats
>as the tank is about to charge up its warpstone cannons the top crystal explodes, causing the top of the tank to be sheared off and the driver killed
>The lower crystal manages to excrete a warp lightning that zaps the nearest skaven, chaining up to the enemy lines
>warp lightning kills a single soldier after it bounced through a score of skaven
>Rest of the rattank explodes, devastating columns of stormvermin that were meant to protect it
>Clan Skryre engineers call the deployment of the rattank a success

I can't wait for the Rattank FLC now.
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>>162760272
>doesn't bring any skirmishers
>complains when he loses to skirmishes

lmao fuck off
>>
>Stunties
>>
>>162753941
>Thanquol
I think he should be promoted to God tier, if only because something bad will happen if he wants to get there
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>>162760272
eternal guard weren't even touched you turbonigger
git gud shitlord
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No Mohgur because I haven't been able to get a portrait image, games updating and for some raisin he isn't on the TWW Encyclopedia. But he's God Tier.
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>>162760738
Please stop bullying Balt
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>>162760272
>50 point deduction in cost
>OP
You're just fucking garbage. Every time you lose you just constantly bitch about how the other faction is OP. Seriously fuck off with your whiny commentary
>>
>>162760002
Because you're saying it's an abstract metaphor/ simile or to point out something that isn't
>the cat was a lion pouncing on its toy
>she was 'like a mermaid' with her Beauty
>her """"""feminine""""" penis was very cute
Not related to the coincidence detector at all, which wasn't actually anti Semitic in nature but in tone eg ((((stirnerberg))))
>>
>>162760738

Maxed levelled Azhag does not belong in low tier
>>
>>162758678
You expect free stuff, we had to like put a filter on their colour scheme, throw a dart at a list of affects, and come up with a suitable name. And that's the least we did
>>
So does the hit fix break mods and save games?
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>>162760892
>>162760152

Huh, figured it was something like that. Thought it was some shitty forced meme at first.
>>
hojo a fucking shit

date bst clan
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>>162759650
Nah it's Elliot Rodgers or Timothy mcveigh
>>162759107
JUST AS PLANNED
he's probably the next Archaon
>>
>>162744898

In the final stages of my Empire campaign, just slogging through Dwarves, Estalia, some Brettonian remnants, and the Vampire Counts whom I let grow big for some variety.

Rolling for next campaign.

Also what bonus does Helman Ghorst get if not chosen as your starting Lord, the Poison attacks or the replenishment buff?
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>>162760969

yeah him and his gobbo archers belong off the chart altogether
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Trying to have fun online seems less and less worth it
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>>162760423
>>Clan Skryre engineers call the deployment of the rattank a success
Do you know how indebt they were to that clan, it was also a rising power so the breeder clan asked for it to be culled
>>
>>162761660
>Blanks out his name on the left but not in the middle
No one cares what your Steam name is as there's most likely 12+ accounts with it.
>>
LMAOing at everyone who censors names but not all of them like a retard
Example >>162761660

GLADE GUARD ARE STILL SHIT YOU RETARDS
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What should I listen to while playing elves?
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>>162761660
hello unsafe normal
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>>162761779

I'VE BEEN HAD.

But yea feels like the last 5 times i've played against Beasts they just run all melee 2+ gorebull bullshit
>>
>>162761152
>Thought it was some shitty forced meme at first.
How fucking new are you?
>>
>>162760738
Skarsnik should be one up. Not particularly great himself but gobbo armies are the most fun in the game and his model with gobbler is awesome. Shame he didn't get the prodder ability early, makes me wonder why they thought Durthu should get lamentation from turn one.
>>
>>162761812
Shitters somehow think that a minor decrease in price makes them OP now.
>>
>>162761845
Iggy Azela
>>
>>162760459
>let me try to outskirmish the recently buffed skirmish focused faction

note that I won

heres your (you)

>>162760824
>already cheap extremely cost effective infantry with ap damage and bonus vs large w/ high morale
>not op
heres your (you)

>>162760549
price reduced by 50, which means that player had 250 more than he would have before the patch.

also, note that I won, and that elfs just got a kneejerk buff for no reason

all in all, ebin samefag
>>
>>162761845
nothing
I won't touch them in GC before CA fixes them not getting any fucking followers
why is no one complaining about this
>>
>>162762152
followers are gay
>>
>>162762152
They didn't make followers for them?
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So am I the only person who uses Gelt?
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>>162762152
Who the fuck would follow an elf?
>>
>>162762246
Why would you use him?
>>
>>162762234
either they didn't make them, or they are bugged right now. you can only get banners
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>>162762120
>one (you)
>u-ur a saemfagg !
git gud loser.
your army comp was shit and you're shit
You're lucky you didn't lose
>>
>>162762120
>Gladeguard
>Good
They're still paper you shitter. Stop bitching and get better
>>
>>162744898
ROLL!
>>
>>162762356
this, the majority of elf players online are bad
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Anyone got a spare Grombrindy code? Havent seen any around in a while.

On a side note what's with this autism about Lord of the Rings and total war? In the books there's like 5 battles. The movies there's what? 2? Hobbit 3rd movie is one big battle?

Like every streamer, youtube video, mod dealing with elves or forum post: there's someone saying shit about "lord of the rings would be so cool for a total war"

Tolkien fantasy is so boring if you use the ACTUAL source of his books not expanded fanfiction tier shit and his legacy of money swindinling Silmarillion.
>>
>>162762356
>>162762365
:^) you seem upset
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>>162762246
>not Supreme Patriarch
Somebody fucked up.
And yes, I actually like using him more than Franz.
>>
>>162762268
another elf? any of the lesser races hoping senpai would notice them?
>>
This guy just razed one of my settlements.
>>
>tfw playing Volkmar the Grim
>can't get Karl Franz because disabled confederations
feels bad man
>>
>>162762482
>Rage about shit units being a challenge
>"N-no you're the mad one not me!"
You need to be at least 18 years old to post here
>>
Day 205
Warhammer is still shit.
>>
>>162762569


THE AI'S STRONGEST ALLY, THE FPS TANKER
>>
>>162762623
>Rage about shit units being a challenge

no lad, i was annoyed that I had to chase them off of the field instead of getting the win via army loss penalty.

are you ok? you seem victimized by this discussion? Is there something you need to talk about?
>>
>>162762569
What the fuck kind of an army comp is that?
Does it work?
>>
>>162762569
why are they so far?
>>
>>162762482
You can stop posting now, everyone seems to know you're retarded already
>>162762526
>Outriders hanging on all that time
godspeed, cav boys.
>>162762234
>>162762337
Also you very rarely even get those
the Welf race specific items are borderline impossible to get, i got maybe one on the mini campaign and on GC i got one armour and 1 banner

Generic banners feel very rare, too
>>
>>162762838
Against beastmen, yes.

Slayers are annoying as fuck.
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>>162762838
looks like a "i need a garrison quick to get my public order up and maybe be able to do some damage if needed" comp
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>>162762806
>I'm going to pretend that I'm not mad and that you're mad instead!
wew lad whatever you say
Besides you've bitched multiple times about Glade guard being buffed severely, which they haven't been. Also your army comp is why you almost lost.
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>>162760738
orion up to god?
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>>162762569
>43 minotaurs
Upload the web.m to /HM
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>>162761370
yes, but does Date have the triforce?

Checkmate
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>>162763060
CHUKKIN' SPEARZ IS CHEATIN' YA RUDDY GIT
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>>162763103

Sorry not enough fps for webm
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>>162763139
>date
>not bow and farm clan
Wewuuu wewuuu the ambulance came to say WEW LAD
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>>162763319
>bare chested half goat man vs iron cladded gobbo

it seems fair
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>>162762480
1. Already been an incredibly successful mod, Third Age, which has had many iterations submods and is played by tens of thousands.

2.Thanks to New Line it's all designed and aesthetically pleasing

3. it has the most memorable battle scenes in modern films and perhaps of all time

4.Tolkiens work has countless battles in it, LoTR films show about 10 battles, the hobbit has at least 4.
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>play WELFs

>Expect cute vegan waifus who don't wear undies and make zen gardens and stuff

>receive paranoid batshit insane sociopaths that hunt people for giggles, ritually sacrifice fat people and feed babies to tree monsters

what the fuck /twg/
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>>162762859
>Outriders
They're actually surprisingly good. Decent damage, nice enough speed for harassment and can do vanguard shenanigans. The only issue is that they melt if anything catches up to them.
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Does anyone have the warrior priest version of this?
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>>162763371
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>>162761660
Hey, I watch that channel. Can't wait to see how you fuck up that game later
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>my campaign pre patch
I knew that my settlements were 6 turns away from rebelling because I was going to upgrade the tree to stop it

>my campaign after patch
''rebellion will happen in 25 turns''

what?
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Is there any mod to make magic suck less
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>>162763440
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Morghur is OP, right?
Getting to just remove 2 things at 20%hp sounds cheesy as fuck
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>>162763440
>help why don't I know anything about the setting
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>>162763631

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720729515
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>>162763430

>1. Already been an incredibly successful mod, Third Age

You mean the mod where half of the factions and 90% of the units are straight up fan-fiction?

>4.Tolkiens work has countless battles in it

Which were never described in any particular detail nor was the military infrastructure of any of the factions explored beyond the most superficial level because Tolkien didn't give a shit about that.
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>>162763440
Did you seriously expect anything anime-waifu-tier in the Warhammer universe?
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>>162763440
Neither of these is accurate
also one of the spellsinger voice actors is qt as h*ck, I always recruit and disband them until I get the voice I want
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>>162763440

>expecting elfs not to be monsters

They're in the monster manual for a reason, anon
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>>162763937
racist humies
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>>162763698

It surprisingly doesn't come up that much unless you're fighting a faction with unbreakable units or the fight is REALLY close.

The ability doesn't have very long range so Moghur won't usually be close enough to use it on the first thing that reaches 20% and most of the time when something near him hits that level the enemy army will be on the threshold of a complete rout anyway, making it useless.
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>>162763842
Wood elves are crazy fuckers ruled under by tree Hitler and #Ladsontour Orion who goes on a genocide spree in the human lands every time he gets smashed on wine with his Gladelord friends. Its pretty accurate
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Are flaggs any good against greenskins? They get chewed to mulch by mass gobbo arrows and can't really put a dent into orks.
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>>162763698
What?

Is that an ability?
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>>162763842
>Neither of these is accurate

I've gotten both the wild hunt and sacrificing fat people events in the game

No bay-eating trees yet though

>>162764094

They are ridiculously good in melee after the patch

Just keep them away from missile fire
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>>162762480
>he didn't like the snillmatillion
anon confirmed for the absolute shittest-tier of tastes
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>>162764183

I feel sorry for anyone who went into the Hobbit films without having read the Silmarillion considering how much they cribbed from it
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SKAVEN WHEN
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>mortars hit flagellant unit
>size halved in an instant
>no morale loss
SIGMAR
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>>162764416
Skaven are silly
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>>162763654
I hate how they all have goku hair.

Wish some of them had the alternate hair styles in the preview art.
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yo niggers how come welfs get no retinue?
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>>162764094
>>162764180
idk bout greenskins but I was surprised by how good they did here vs the beastmen

>>162763698
He is kindof unique in that he has 75% resistance to all magic/missile attacks, so while normally you would think itd make sense to shoot a lord with low armor like him you really just need to send someone into melee with him asap in order to kill him before he can get all 4 spawn summons in

>>162764416
>man sized rats

don't be ridiculous
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>>162764504
yeah I don't it either, there's no reason they couldn't put at least one variant in
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>>162764416

Late 2017 at the earliest

2018 more likely

>>162764484

They literally have a unit called a 'Ratling Gunner'

Silly is the whole point

>>162764504

The preview art has been filthy, filthy lies so far
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>>162764609

Because that would take time and money they're already devoting to the $25 Kislev Faction DLC
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>>162764449
>unbreakable
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I'm literally refusing to get this game til they add Skaven.

They made Skaven the focus of the (shitty) End Times release for tabletop, gave them tat Left 4 Dead rip off, but they don'thave them in the Total War? Not even as a generic bandit-like enemy faction? Not even as a fucking random nuisance horde??! It makes no sense.

All I want is my fucking doomwheels.
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>>162765050
Things take time to make anon
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>>162765050
>>>/reddit/
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>>162765050
That'll be 30$ + tip :^))
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>>162763759
None of the factions are, obviously a lot of the specific units are made to fit total war but they are hardly unrealistic concepts. Also a lot of battles from total war periods aren't described in great detail and often not accurately and centuries after the fact. Look at Teutoberg, there are no accounts of what happened it's all reconstruction.

Sure it's less desirable now with warhammer out but more people can relate to LoTR since they know the factions, cities, places, characters and the aesthetic is generally a lot more historical (since that was a consideration for WETA) than those in Warhammer.
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>>162764416
>>162765050
Please use this as the opening picture for the next general so I can feel funny
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>>162764760
>$25 Kislev DLC
>not $30 Marienburg City-State DLC
come on now anon, surely you can jew better than that
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>>162765050

>mfw there are people who actually unironically like Skaven in /twg/
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>>162764760
>>162765323
>CA will be lazy again and make no adjustments to nearby AI and Chaos will steamroll
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Is there any unit that btfos the elves as much as the knights of the blazing sun?

>cavalry to kill archers
>flaming damage for killing trees
>magic resist for resisting tree attacks
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>>162764760

If we get Ice magic, winged-lancers and Tzarina Katarin Legendary Lord then I would unironically pay $25 for Kislev.
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>>162746967
People are noticing that Wildwood Rangers fight well against armored heavy weapon elites and large, but they are pretty poor against anything else.

Compared to Black Orcs/ Hammerers (Which are being misused against Wildwood Rangers, since they aren't an armored unit,) Wildwood Rangers are much more fragile against shooting/low tier infantry, with poor armor and HP. Also, besides just a stat-to-sat comparison, orcs have many easy ways to massively boost melee attack, and Wildwood Rangers rely a lot on their melee defense. A pile of gobs with +54 melee attack are going to poke a ton of holes in Wildwood Rangers.
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Is this an accurate depiction of the Warhammer universe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNFGJQIW5ZM
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>>162765375

I feel like the only people who dislike Skaven are kids who don't get it because they are too young to remember 80s/90s Saturday morning cartoons.

I think they are leaving them til late on because it's gonna require some unique gameplay mechanics, and CA suck at anything that doesn't follow the rock/paper/scissor style they are used to. However it could be a really neat and refreshing addition if done right.
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>>162765875
sisters of thorn > blazing faggots
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>>162766163
>implying they won't just give them underway + horde mode
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>>162766115
Greenskins don't work with chaos, they can tell when an orc or goblin is corrupted by something like chaos too.
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>>162766115
Pretty much, chaos warriors should completely fuck most Empire units.
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>>162766115

How the shit did a Chaos warband IN FULL PLATE ARMOR sneak up on that Imperial patrol?
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>>162766115
I made webms of that like a year ago

The one where the Orcs fuck up Chaos is great too
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Is there no way to respec other lords that I get by confederating?
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As you guys can see from my military allies, it seems like elfs don't have the shield of civilization trait, meaning they don't get the massive buff to diplo towards me once Sarthoreal spawns

Seems like CA has fully intended to portray elfs as dicks here as it should be
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>>162766757

Mods

>>162766115

So much wasted potential: the video game
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>>162766373
>Skaven will be hordes

when will this meme die? Skavenblight is already on the map and impassable terrain meaning Skaven will be in vanilla and won't be a horde faction.
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>>162766702
that's why they call it dark/shadow magic
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>>162766934
What mod?
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>OPs image features a Karak
>they're not actually like this ingame

y tho
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>>162766745
ORK ORK ORK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEZ38oFsNH4
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>>162766745

I'm guessing the war cleric didn't win that fight
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>100% ambush chance
>they find me.
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>>162767176
OP Here
IDK because CA is lazy. Did noone else get an email with all these screenshots and huge ass gifs this morning?

Just figured I'd use one for the OP and some posts
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>>162766702
Chaos armour is like a second skin so it probably doesn't make as much noise as loose armour. I dunno why they don't shout battlecries being Khornate
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>>162766115
>the wood elf coming out of his comfy forest to save the day

:3
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>>162767237
>setting up ambush
>some random hick spots you across the land who isn't involved in any war
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>>162767327
Anyone ever think monsters get played down far too much in fantasy? Just a grizzly bear could kill 10 men fairly easily never mind a 15ft tall troll with foot long claws. Empire armies are what, maybe 2000 men in this. 2000 men couldn't hope to kill a dragon.
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>>162767327
>OP Here

no one really cares
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>>162767618
2000 men is a lot of men anon
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>been stuck in the Vaults for the last 15 turns killing a gobbo stack every turn
>wounds are adding up
>elves made peace with Skarsnik right after killing Norn
>corruption is spreading from some idiots that got played by beastmemes
>broke as shit
SEND HELP
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>>162744898
rollan
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>>162767618
Would a grizzly bear really kill 10 armed and armored soldiers with ease?

Anyway all it takes to kill a dragon is a single man
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>>162744898
That will incur my wraith!
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>>162766745
What is that demon?
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>chaos is my favorite faction from table top because they're edgy but not linkin park edgy
>The gods they worship actually do shit unlike sigmar
>Archaon has a half decent story and the units' plate looks incredible
>Army is also pretty formidable but expensive
>Total War:Warhammer has them on release
>Their campaign can get ended by one computer decided to mob 3 stacks at your remaining army
>Sigvald is trash
>Their units are so fucking expensive, like rediculously for their price
>no warshrines
>they're impossible to use in MP cuz of cost
FEELS BAD MY DUDES
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>corner a dude's last fledgling army
>he has no where to go unless he wants to attack 2 superior armies
>that AI takes a good 5 seconds to process on the loading turn
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>>162767734
against some 30 foot flying snake that has a flammenwerfer for a mouth? It's not just TWW either, in LoTR eowyn cuts through a 2 foot diameter neck in two hits and legolas shoots an arrow into a 30 foot elephants skull. You couldn't do that to a normal elephant for fucks sake.
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>>162767790
Oh hell yeah got me some new G O B L I N S minis to build and paint.
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>>162762246
Why the fuck can't Gelt use other lores apart from Metal?
Just why?
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>>162767893
Some form of 'daemon prince' of khorne I'm pretty sure
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V A L K I A

T H E

B L O O D Y

why isn't she /in/ and some random slaaneshi fuccboy is
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>>162767973

When those men have guns and halberds and wizards there is no real reason they couldn't.
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>>162764072
>tree Hitler

I giggled like an autist.
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>>162767176
>>162767327

That map is literally the quest battle map for Belegar/Skarsnik you idiots
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>>162767893
Bloodthirster of Khorne.

a greater Demon
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>>162766115

>WE'RE SURROUNDED!

>QUICK! CHARGE THEM WITH YOUR GUNS AND HALBERDS!
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>>162768026

That's a Bloodthirster, the archetypical greater daemon of Khorne.
Daemon Princes are ascended mortals, and will typically look like a cross between a chosen and the greater daemons of their patrons.
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>>162767973
You underestimate just how many people 2000 is anon.

It's hard to understand if you've never stood in a formation yourself.
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>>162768082
Oh wow i didn't know there were feminists in the world of warhammer
apart from amazons
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>>162768265
>>162768235

So that cleric is fucked is what you're saying
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>>162767903
Chaos gets a lot of stick for being GWs fantasy killers that they don't get in 40k but they are still the most iconic faction. It's a good thing that the incomplete roster will force CA to revisit them and being the underdogs in TWW might curb some of the more autistic protests my dude.

>>162767820
no but a troll could. A man with a pick can puncture and cave in a cuirass so imagine what something 20 times the strength could do? Like a digger hitting someone. The force would just pulp their insides.

also
>Bard animated true to archery firing the arrow from his thumb
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>>162768265
Yeah you're right
Fuck me if they can't look pretty similar though
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So it's official Bretons worship an Elf god who uses them as a buffer state for Athel Lorthen and thinks of them as useful idiots right?
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>>162767903

>dont really like Chaos
>but love the armor the Chosen units wear

I was expecting Chaos to be this Hunnic-like badass but I was wrong
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>>162768465
Thanks for the words of hope anon. My boys in black march on
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>>162768553

If you're talking about the Lady of the Lake, then yes, kinda. Except she doesn't give a shit about Athel Loren and just wants the humans to protect her home.
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>>162768610
Chaos Chosen have some of the most fun to build and paint models in the tabletop game. I started playing Hordes of Chaos because of the armor. Their models have only gotten better over the years.
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>>162768668
>Doesn't care about athel lorthen
Y tho
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>>162768731

Because she thinks Orion and his waifu are untrustworthy assholes
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>>162768252
>he doesn't try to break the encirclement
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>>162768731
The Lady and the spirits of the woods have a passive feud. They don't give much of a damn about eachother's wellbeing.
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>>162768407

Soloing greater daemons does happen... If you're a character with a name.

They pretty well exist to separate the important heroes from the unimportant.
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What is the best mod for ETW?
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>>162764094
Simple fodder troops, use them as bait for missile units.
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>>162768724
Amen anon
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>>162768553
It's an elf goddess that thinks humans are more capable and pure than wood elves.
She's not wrong.
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>>162766115

Why is that proud forest elf lifting a finger to help that Sigmar-humping monkey?
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Fight me ass master
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>>162768879
like when OUR GUY SANGUINIUS (Beloved by all) broke the back of a Bloodthirster
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>>162768978

Walk
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>>162769024
When will this show get an H adapted OVA? Would be perfect
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>>162768610
They have Steppe like Hunnic/Mongol tribes but they never get models or heroes sadly. It was a shame they couldn't differentiate warriors from chosen more, warriors should have leather boots while chosen have full plate greaves and sabatons.
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>>162768938
I forget how old these models are as I think they came out right around when I started playing but even the basic warriors are just done so right.
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>>162768724
>>162768938

There's a good reason they're the most popular army
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>>162768382
>Valkia the Bloody
>feminist
what?
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>>162769061
>Irondrakes against Chaos
>not even 1 (one) ranger to meme on that cannon
At least you're using Belegar in a regular dawi campaign, so it's all good.
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Does anyone use the Regiment of Renown mod? Is it any good?
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>>162760738
Skarsnik should be in God Tier.
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>>162768920
imperial splendour
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>>162769373

70-80% of my armies are ragtag groups made of troops I confederated with
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>>162769373

Irondrakes are fantastic at killing chaos' monstrous units. Let's you save the slayers to catch cavalry.
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>>162769548
Is there a better one? I tried it and got a bug where my barracks could recruit a thousand different units and didn't find out how to fix it.
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>>162769024
that's a high elf you stupid fuck wood niggers were never put into mark of chaos
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>>162769229
I really want to start collecting an army again but I seriously don't want to spend 300 dollars on an army I'll never field. Maybe I'll Chinkhammer it up.
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It's taking like an hour and 40 temporary gigs just to install this freaking 120 mb patch. Why is CA so bad at this whole computer thing.
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>>162769921
I never had this happen to me
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uhhhhh, is there a quest completer mod?
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>>162770106
That annoyed me so fucking much when I was playing him. I've got much better shit to do than attack the benevolent faction defending us all from chaos.
>AI gets it for free
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>>162769770

Then why is he in the woods dressed as a wood elf, smart guy?
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>>162769210
>TWW's Chaos Warriors will always awkwardly carry their shields, unlike the glorious models, shield upfront
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>>162770305
Don't remind me. The models make them look like a disciplined and terrifying legion like that of Rome. CA made the look like barbar fucking shits.
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>>162770301
it's a shadow warrior in the woods dressed as a shadow warrior, a high elf unit
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I miss Attila when cav couldn't just pull out with no losses.
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>prepare to go to war against giant vampires
>wood shitters declare war
>orion so blind that he thinks humans are beastmen
t-thanks
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>>162770461
the little dwarf that couldn't
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i wish warrior priests had more cool shit in total warhammer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-68bXPgH9Dk
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>>162770461
>pull out with no losses.
wasn't this one of the complaints though?
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>>162762152
>why is no one complaining about this

People did and CA is looking into it apperantly.
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>>162765050
They'll be dlc for the second game or base faction in the third game. DESU it's far easier to code historical factions than it is fantasy where almost everything has a unique model


Also takingthis pasta
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>>162770775
>DESU it's far easier to code historical factions than it is fantasy where almost everything has a unique model
>coding and modeling are the same thing
anon do you know how computers work
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>>162763490
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>>162766702
It's not full Plate armour, it's chaos armour moulded by the chaos dwarves in the chaos wastes. Like power armour it acts as a second skin. Also did you factor in the mist obscuring the view
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>It gave me a less than 50% chance of winning this on the balance of power
Can someone explain how the power bar works to a newfag? It seems like a bunch of bull to me. I'm playing on normal and so far I'm having relative ease.

Also, handgunners do work man. I'm going to have to get like 5 of these guys.
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Is there a mod that changes the unit placement color from yellow to something else in battles? Fighting in the snow is fucking impossible. I can't see shit
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>>162771127
>Can someone explain how the power bar works to a newfag?
It doesn't
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'member Total War Arena?
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Okay, late-campaign Wood Elves are really just fucking stupid OP.
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>>162771245
Yes and that like all multiplayer total war is cancer and shit
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>>162771245
kill yourself
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>>162771337
xD was only joking man ^^ shame its dead project doe
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>Achievement: Win the grand campaign as the Beastmen
>0.9% Have achieved this
Damn, I don't own POOPOOPEEPEE DLC but how hard is it? harder than chaos?
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>>162765375
>tfw like Skaven
>tfw slowly disliking them due to how awful the fan base is
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Should I get Shogun 2, /twg/?
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>>162771440
No they're both just fucking boring.
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>>162771467

Yes

Why don't you already own it?
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>>162771440
The achievement was bugged briefly, so it's lower than it probably is
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>>162771467
Do you like Sengoku Japan time period?
Do you like 30 second battles?
If yes to both, Yes.
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>>162771245

>mfw we'll never EVER play as Takeda Shingen facing off Alexander the great, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan and Murat all on the same map
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>>162771307
>no cygors

not impressed
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>>162771538
>>162771440

It was bugged
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Does anyone here play with Radious? Is it as rediculous as the older games such as Kharnate Turtle War Emmisary Gun Boat Samurai Turtle Ships?

Or is it just a rebalance/unit addition? I feel there's balancing that needs to be done and lots of rosters feel lacking (Empire and Greens don't apply to this statement)
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>>162771592
Because I remember pirating it some years ago and giving up because it ran at like 10 fps on minimal settings.

>>162771643
Absolutely.
Uh, no. Yes? Maybe. They can't be that fast, right?
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>>162771127
Don't let the bar control you ever: get http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756353521
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>>162771210
Well then is it safe to assume sometimes when it gives me a good chance it might be bullshit and I'm actually probably going to lose?
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>>162771792
>Is it as rediculous as the older games such as Kharnate Turtle War Emmisary Gun Boat Samurai Turtle Ships?
Yes
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>>162772001
Yes they can be that fast
Almost all of the main troops have low to no armor
One clan gets fuck huge bonus to charge
All units have really high attack and damage, decent morale

If you get one good charge you can instantly route an entire front line of an army
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>>162772001
battles in vanilla shogun 2 are 98% fucking around with the terrain so you don't attack uphill (the enemy always has a pocket hill on them so you need to jostle for position) and 2% actual combat

for field battles, at least
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>>162768001
Because that's how empire wizards work. Hell, how human wizards work. Mastering ONE lore is already a fucking life-long affair for someone with a human lifespan - in fact, mastering it at all puts you way, waaaaaaay up there on the genius scale.
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How do you guys vary your Empire compositions based on whether or not you have Mortars or Cannons?
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>>162772101
Not sure I'd say there's a good chance but yeah it can definitely happen.
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>>162772204
also

expect to lose all your yari ashigaru in every actual battle

that's what they're there for, anyway. If 20 ashigaru die so that a samurai lives, it's money well spent.

Unless you're Oda, then you just go full ham every day with your million yari armies
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>>162770106
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=808802871

Skips all quests straight to the final battle. Unfortunately also skips msot choices and the first battle in those quests with two. The modder is currently working on a version that instead replaces the non-battle stages with completely trivial tasks like owning a single settlement or similar.
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>>162767014
Source?
>>162767903
>Their campaign can get ended by one computer decided to mob 3 stacks at your remaining army
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD, SKYLLS FOR THE SKULL THROEN
but yeah Chaos is far worse off then it should be.
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>>162772203
>>162772204
That sounds a bit iffy desu, but alright, will keep that in mind. Is it the same in FoTS?
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>>162768001
He may be the supreme patriarch, but he is the patriarch of the school of metal. To adopt another law of magic would be to admit that metal is not the best lore
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>>162772697
fots is hella fun but it's just "spam arty win gaem"
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>>162768082
Anon, wait for the third game when it has no more DLC to release and then complain
>>162768160
>I giggled like a /TWG/ poster
FTFY
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>>162757358

>stacking flock of doom with Daith AOE

Truly a god. I used him in the final Oak battle in the legendary grand campaign to tank almost all of the beastman waves.
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>>162771440
was bugged followed by most Total War players never finishing a campaign because shit gets boring late game.
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>>162757358
>get two stacks of handgunners
>hitler tree melts before reaching your line
REMOVE ELF
REMOVE TREE
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>>162768252
>he doesn't realise the charge bonus wins the battle
I bet you play spear Walls
>>162768553
Welcome to grim dark writing
don't forget her wishes for the nobility to marry elves, even though this results in still born children and weaker dukes inheriting
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>>162773119

>marrying elfs

Is that allowed?
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Why don't chaos use gunpowder or have more ranged units?

I hate having to use those skirm cavs.
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>>162773080
>wood elves allowing handgunners to shoot
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>>162773296

>Why don't chaos use gunpowder or have more ranged units?

Khorne has no love for cowards
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Am I supposed to be able to field multiple beastmen armies?

I can barely maintain 1.
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>>162770947
>open model software
>click area
>colour
>custom
>throw dart at sex slave
BLUE IT IS
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>>162773396
What about the other gods though?
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are Tomb Kings True neutral when compared to the other races in warhammer?
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Is the Crooked Moon AI retarded now that wood elves are here, or has he always been this way?
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>>162773614
More or less. They just want people to stop fucking with their tombs.
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>>162773296
samefag
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>>162773119

>humans marrying elfs

>high-born perfect beings allowing hairy monkeys to pollute their bodies with filthy human seed

No elf would agree to such a filthy and degrading thing
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>>162773635

Half the time Skarsnik always loses his capital because its not the region capital and has a shit garrison
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>came close to beat Empire on legendary
>try again for shits and giggles
>WE in the scene
its not going to be easier, is it?
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>>162773687
What?
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>>162773785

I always feel sorry for the Slayers who have the most anti-climactic of deaths
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>>162773725
this
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>>162773861
you samefagd the post with same opionion twice
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>>162773614
If you keep the fuck out their lands they'll woop nagash and chaos for you
>>162773296
Same reason Sweden and Norway were late to modernising their armies FYCKING COLD
>>162771440
How does archaon react to you when he spawns?>>162771792
He had his own spurdo sparde made so of course its terrible
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>>162774175
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The best part is the little fucker survived the battle,. I finally managed to pin down Kholek with two stacks with Thorgim reinforcing. So I sent a Slayer rush ahead give my artillery time to maneuver into range.
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January 26, 2017
>Dwarf vs. Greenskin LL Pack
>Grombrindal (may release earlier)

February ??, 2017
>No paid DLC, Old World Edition re-release & patch
>Bretonnia

March 2x, 2017
>Empire vs. Vampires LL Pack
>Red Duke & Mousillon

May ??, 2017
>Legendary Heroes
>Either a free hero or a re-purposed exsisting character made into a LL
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>>162772001

>piracy
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>>162774421
no RoR for the remaining factions?
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So if you want to have a decent campaign, you can't play next to the wood elves.
Unless, y'know, they beeline elsewhere too? Maybe Durthu has a thing for the vampers?
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>>162774421
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>>162744898
Rolling for bitches
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>>162774421
>>Empire vs. Vampires LL Pack
>not Bretonnia vs Vampires
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>>162774571

Dunno, CA refuses to even acknowledge the idea of RoR for DLC factions. Why they don't release them within their respective race/campaign packs is a bit absurd.
>>
Why are eagles so fucking shit? How do we make them not shit?
>>
Is there any mod to make the welves more passive in the campaign?

Everytime I reach the empire it's filled with tree shit.

Also, they confedarate way too soon.
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>>162774751

Bretonnia is releasing with 3 LLs and in essentially a completed state. They've also said no DLC for DLC. Besides fuck that if Bretonnia, the red headed step child in the TT series, gets more LL than the fucking Empire who are already 1 LL behind their vanilla counterparts.
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>>162774883
Make them a slightly better manticore
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>>162768879
90% of named characters can't solo any greater demon let alone a bloodthirster of khorne.
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>>162775032
>no DLC for DLC
Perhaps FLC then
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>>162775000
Wait for the next hotfix to make it so AI elves can't upgrade the tree
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>>162774421
>sub-factions

i'm so glad this meme is real

now all they need to do is rename the empire reikland and the dwarf everpeak or whatever
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What did they mean by that?
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>>162775032
>in essentially a completed state
What about reskins of renown?

>no DLC for DLC
Good thing they aren't a DLC then.
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>>162774861

i mean for fucking 17.49€ they could give us a couple of reskinned units with buffed stats, just block them for people who doesn't have the DLCs
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>>162775053
samefag
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>>162774421
>Either a free hero or a re-purposed exsisting character made into a LL
BORIS CONFIRMED PLAYABLE LL
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>the babbys got their buffs

also that feel when total war double in size when it is updating. literally only had 1 gig of space left on my ssd.
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>>162774883
they should be the best Air to Air unit, but mediocre at Air to Ground combat.

give them high bonus against flying targets, a Great Eagle should take out beasts like Manticores or Griffons who can barely keep their heavy bodies in the air with ease.

A Deagon should probably be even matched due to tough scales and high vitality, but that shouldn't be true for mutates chaos dragons or lumbering zombie dragons, who shouldn't be anle to keep up with a fast and agile eagle in air melee
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>>162775393

That's another twenty
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>>162761656
terror charge with azhag is power, and hes the only one that can deal with ethereal lords
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>>162775459
>That webm

Was it autism
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1-3 Khazrak
4-6 Malagor
7-9 Morghur
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>>162768879
killing greater demons or an avatar of khaine (in 40k) usually happens when GW tries to hamfist another hero or character into being "badass". what it does is cheapen the vanquished foes reputation, but hey, I'm sure it gets some plebes call the hero "totally badass for soloing a greater demon!!"

it's pretty much like what they did with archaon, "oh he's not awesome enough yet, look at him one hitting that Shaggoth on the side, isn't that awesome? omgeee he's so badass isn't he?"
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>162775705
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>>162775550
He obviously has autism considering how late his parents banged. Same risk with downs. Also explains why he wasn't orignallly going to live in the white house
>>
Reminder that you will never Comand
legions of Rhodok Crossbows and Spears in a Total War game
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Reminder that Nagash was a Bitch
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Tips for Jozai in FotS?
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>>162776153
Oh look here comes the merchant claiming his irrelevant nation should exist when it's most famous citizen did not die in battle but fell off the castle wall when drunk
>>162776252
And Settra is the cucker
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>>162774382
>mountain manlets
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>>162776153
med 2 has about the same responsivenes and sieges just as smooth as Mount and Blade though.

Graphics are about right too.
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>>162776350
I wonder who's behind this post
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>>162776382
BOOK
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>>162775032
Bretonnia isn't DLC
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>>162776153
>>162776252
Reminder to stab
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Are Empire Captains shit compared to Wizards?
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>>162776592
They have wildly different uses.
Wizards are shit in general though.
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>>162774175
>>162773685
question is though are they the only true neutral faction?
>>
>Tfw this thread is dead and Lehend still hasn't uploaded the next part of his Durthu campaign
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>>162776662
well in warhammer only two factions are listed as truly neutral
Tomb Kings and the Ogre Kingdoms
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>>162776716
>Thread is dead
1+ posts a minute isn't dead anon
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>>162776662
Ogres are also neutral

Personally I think Wood Elves should also be neutral but GW doesn't think so
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>>162776662
Tomb Kings are really neutral. They don't really do much to anyone aside from the times people steal their shit.
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So when the hell is the next faction happening?
>>
So do the other human nations like Kislev and Estalia have their own colleges of magic? Where do they get their wizards from?
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>>162776818
bretonnia february
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>>162776592
Absolutely not, by sigmar they are the second best hero compared to warrior priests
>>162776758
Ogre kingdoms are true Swiss, they let everyone hire them and bastardised a great culture that once lived wherever they do now
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>>162776784
Wood Elves are literally no different than Greenskins.
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>>162776818
February, fixed bretonnia and presumably some kind of DLC as well. Who knows what.
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>>162776878
Not really since they don't have the educational infrastructure of the empire. However there is Ice Magic that the queen of Kislev is only able to do.
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>>162776818
Next game after brettonia in january
>>162776924
Insert drummer
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>>162776924
lies
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>>162776382
Manlet handled
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>>162776716
watch surreal and heir
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>>162773614
no, first thing Settra did when he woke up was organize slave raids into the north and west.

He's smart enough to consolidate and preserve his power, but he's a conqueror to the bone.
>>
>>162777101
You meant surreal and tokshen. Heir a shit.
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>>162777082
Shit, you're right. You can pay Greenskins to fuck off, that's the difference between the two.
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can elfposters stop shitposting pls
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>when you realize the water is shallow/frozen
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>>162777176
Hence his appeal.

>Heir NOOOO, SKARSNIK STARTS WITH LIGHTNI...
>Heir gets crushed, mis micros his units, doesnt read unit cards
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>>162777145
Dude only cares about his kingdoms. He isn't trying to expand at all.
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>>162773119
>marry elfs

what elves? High Elves wouldn't marry human filth and Wood Elves would sooner use them for target practice.

Also, Lileath is not an Elf in that sense either.
>>
So just finished playing through a Durthu campaign, but can I just say the animations with the Wood Elves are pretty damn sweet?

Like even if you ignore the nice ones Orion and Durthu has, even the generic female Glade Lord has one where she plants her feet into an enemy's face.

Any other neat animations anyone has noticed? I'm hoping we see more of this stuff in the future races, since prior to this those kind of things were mostly only for the monstrous units.
>>
What will the DLC with the free Bretonnia fix be?
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>>162777283
I remember in his We video he spent like 5 mins trying to find where the Glade lords net ability was in multiplayer.
>>
>>162777376
wtf can't see shit from up here
>>
Explain why Rome II is bad in twenty words or less to someone who has never played it.
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>>162777101
>YouTube what the fertiliser crap is going on
Yeah shit intro and whiny voice. Also taking that name is as pretentious as SARGON of Cuckadd
>>162777145
You do realise he was estbalishing the borders he held in life so it's not evil
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>>162777393
Frankly we have no idea, going by the datamine the next race, which is DLC 8 is the Tomb Kings supposedly. DLC 5 was initially the Wood Elves, and DLC 6 was King and the Warlord.

But that leaves DLC 7 which we don't have a fucking clear what it might be. Most are in agreement that it is likely a Legendary Lord pack again, but the contents are up for debate. Though some also think it might be a sub-faction release.
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>>162777429
It was an unstable, broken mess at launch with 0 optimization, and lacked the ability to provide nostalgia to rome I fans who had played EB for more than a decade.

>>162777483
>TOTAL WAR IS SUPER SERIOUS
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>>162777429
Because it is absolutely positively excessively and totally a big piece of doo-doo that should not be touched at all
>>
>>162768553
>Elf god

careful with that, anything regarding the several "revelations" and "conclusions" is the deepest End Times skub, and often is no more than a cheap wrap up job designed to justify age of smegma.

It may be "canon" but that doesn't meanit makes much sense or holds up to close scrutiny.
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>>162777429
Pontus is in it
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>>162777428
I only noticed the Glade Lord one when I was screwing around during a battle where I had an overwhelming advantage. I just pressed K and watched shit fight, then suddenly the Glade Lord leap onto a swordsman's face and used it as a springboard.

Was really pleasantly surprised by that.
>>
>>162777429

Attila is better in every single way except for perhaps maybe possibly conceivably probably the setting
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>>162777573
>11 words over
Consider yourself suicided
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>>162777645
>>162768553
To be fair though they did throw hints in that direction way before the End Times happened. It's just the End Times had a very hamfisted way of confirming it, same way with the Green Knight revealing himself to be the founder of Bretonnia.

I think there are even nods in game about the whole worship an elf goddess thing.
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>>162777658
>shitty bent swords
Did you not even pay attention to the live re-enactments and tranny historian on Time Commanders
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so in multiplayer, should I put my glade lord on a dragon or is an eagle okay? if they're mainly going to be ranged
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>>162778030
EAGLE
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>>162778030
Dragon is good for charge damage and terrorbombing; usually worth the few extra bucks.
>>
>"heir of carthage"
>is white

Explain
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>>162778030
Eagle is usually the best for price dragon is sometimes big clumsy reptile.
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>>162744817

Where the fuck is this map CA?
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>>162777376
The rangers and waywatchers do some neat ninja/legolas shit in combat; problem is that they hardly last enough for any to play out.
Eagles are fun to watch though, now that they are actually doing their animation.
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>>162778327
the one place you will never fight
southeast of the map
i think
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>>162777865
calling Hamfisted is not doing it justice.

End Times took everything about Warhammer that was mystical and special and turned it into wet shit.

The Lady of the Lake and the Green Knight were things that simply didn't need closure.

None of the Elven Gods, or even the Human Gods needed the Skubpocalypse to happen, their lore was fine being left ambigues as they were.

What we didn't need, was a WoW tier writer giving Lileath exposition as to why she created the cult of the lady and the Bretonnian Kingdom with her Boytoy, which just keeps falling apart under close scrutiny anyway.

Throwing Established Lore, that's 25 years in the making under the bus like End Times did, is flat out disgraceful.
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>>162777176
Heir is not shit. He's not your pro player. I like he's weak jokes he's honest. I must admit I even have learned alot from his mistakes. Well and i have my replay featured in one video.
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>>162778327
Well there is this map. I saw online battles on this and it's probably in the retaking of Karak Eight Peaks as clan Angrund
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>>162778084
>>162778146
>>162778303
thanks; I don't think I'll be microing enough to switch her to melee and charge in a lot with all the other shit going on, so I'll put her on an eagle for now.

Waystalkers are great hero snipers so I'll bring one of those as well, just have to decide if a life wizard is worth the cost
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>>162760738
Belegar needs to be in god tier, if only because he's better than Skarsnik.
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>playing empire after wood elfs
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>>162777176
Fuck off, he's a genuinely nice guy.
An actually balanced human being too, which makes for a nice change.
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>tfw no more dapper Napoopan uniforms

why live?
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>>162778521
Heir is basically dad humor incarnate, which is appropriate considering he is a dad
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>>162778327

Lost Vault of king lunn

Belegar's quest map
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>>162778731
Yeah, I find listening to him in the background while playing/modding incredibly relaxing.
>>
>>162778295
Fvcking niggas white washing history, don't you know Hannibal Barca was actually a mercenary captain from Dacia, that's why the Roman sacked it so early on
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>>162778997
We talking heirofcarthage?
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>>162778295
The carthagineans were semite colonists from Phoenicia. HoC sounds pretty whiny, like he is about to cry all the time, so there is a good chance he is a jew.
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>>162779152
Yeah, why?
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>>162777429
Rome 2 has a bad reputation because of it's shitty launch but a lot of the things that were wrong with it are fixed now.

It's no longer a bad game, just a mediocre one. Attila is better in every way unless you prefer Rome 2's setting.
>>
>command battle
>lots of action
>need to zoom in to see it
>don't because I'm commanding the fucking army and I need to see what the fuck is happening
>just moving ants around

What is even the point of these fucking games.
>>
>>162779204
I can't listen to his voice so was surprising is all.
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>>162779398
>he can't micro macro and macro micro
Go back to /gsg/ newfag
>>
>>162776489
Why? Slayers are meant to seek death in battle, and being killed by the earthly manifestation of a god is about as high as you can get on the getting killed totem pole.
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Anyone else keep getting chapter completions with hardly any bonus objectives done? pisses me off
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>>162779406
To each their own I guess.
I like him because he's usually very laid back, that and is incredibly corny jokes.
I literally just spend three hours modding hair colours for elves while listening to his onld Poland campaign in Empire.
>>
>>162779398
I totally get you
>>
>by turn 50, Grimgor has won the badlands bowl, confederated Wurrzag, kicked the dwarfs out of their eastern mountain homes and is already picking fights with Kislev
>meanwhile I've still only got Marienburg, Reikland and a small area of Stirland

You said Grimgor always loses! Should I start being worried?
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>>162777907
I just took it from here because it was funny, anon.
It's not like I only post my own OC
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What's the best area to settle as the Visigoths? Or as any barbarian faction in general?
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>>162779817
Nah, just wait for the dwarf doomstacks to come.
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>>162779871
I just realized I never finished a campain in vanilla Atilla.
Bought the game on sale and played a bit of Charlemagne, but never the basic campaign.
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>>162779884
>dwarf doomstacks

T-They're all dead anon... The only dwarfs left are the western dwarfs near Bretonnia, the wood elves cucked the rest of them including Clan Angrund.
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>play Empire on legendary
>conquer province
>declare war on Marienburg
>dwarfs and Durthu declare war
>finish Marienburg, wait around for elf and dwarf armies
>Durthu calls in Bretonnia
>3 stacks show up
>todd declares war
>2 stacks show up
y even bother
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>>162780126
>the wood elves cucked the rest of them including Clan Angrund
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>>162780126
>he didn't help the oldest of his allies
>he just let some beastmen fuck them up
GRUUUUUUUUDGE
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>>162778731
Well maybe yes I usually dont like this kind of jokes but idk guy is cool.
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>>162780126
Time to lube up then.
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>>162780152
>y even bother
For the existence of humanity
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>>162779398
The thing i like to do is to save replays from good battles and then watch them without interface. Full cinematic mode.
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>>162780212
>>162780254

I took care of Crooked Moon for Belegar, but the wood elves confederated their entire realm in 3 turns or something ridiculous.

Wood elves are ridiculous in the campaign, half of bretonnia is already gone, Mousillion has the other half and I have a very angry tree just over the mountain ranges from Helmgart.

Random Brayherds already took out Tilea/Estalia, I think I will need to restart this campaign when I get home.
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>>162780549
Don't give up mate. You are the bulwark of civilization.
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>>162779871
HISPANIA
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>>162780549
They confederate early as fuck in every game.
Even if you remove the ability to confederate, they fuck up all of Bretonnia and Treehitler is shitting on humans in the east.
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>>162780549
Really surprised everything went SO bad. I am surprised Orc got so far. But I remember playing coop with brother on hard he Dwarfs me Empire around turn 50 or so I had to run across the map to help him in gigantic battle because grimgor was sieging his capital with 3-4 full stacks while some lesser armies were attacking deeper in his lands.
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>>162780712

>Wood Elf cucks hate my guts already because I helped Belegar
>Grimgor is literally his own doom tide
>Chaos has only just started stirring
>Mousillion is spreading shit into Reikland/Marienburg for being next to me

I think I'm going to have to ally with VC just to survive.
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>>162781006
Mannfred can be your best friend if you let him!
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>>162773785
>>162773925
To be fair, guy got splattered by a spell meant to tear a path through entire units. That genuinely is a pretty memorable death and means he picked a fight with a pretty powerful wizard.

So, I'd say it counts as pretty good.
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>>162779871
The southwest part of the map (Iberia, Northwest Africa, Southern Gaul depending on the year) is the comfiest
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>>162781006
Real Chaos attack begins around turn 100+ mostly and usually they are not so instant with going straight for Altdorf. How are the rest of Empire that is not under your control ? In my game they took some blows "for me" before i could "unite" them under my banner.
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>>162777673
>>162777428
>>162777376
Didn't notice until it was brought up, but yeah it is actually a pretty awesome animation. First tried to see if it worked against Beastmen, but it didn't. Did another battle against Empire troops and she was doing it pretty often. So it seems like a case where the animation only triggers on what the game considers humanoid.
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>>162781330

Middenland/Wissenland like me, but everyone else doesn't and most if not all the other empire states have Imperial Distrust traits excluding Kislev.

Ostland knocked out Talabecland and Averland, I'm avoiding getting into miltiary pacts with most of the states however because it's been a constant shit fest of declaring wars on each other and I don't want to be dragged into anything with Wood Elves/Greenskins at the gates.
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how viable is it as Durthu to just straight up conquer all of Athel Loren first thing at the beginning of the game?

I wanna embrace the Tree Hitler.
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Exactly how good is Franz in melee? I can't decide what to level him up into. The leadership stuff makes swordsmen into not terrible units, but at the same time he doesn't seem bad as far as fighting goes.
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What did he mean by this
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>>162781612

Put him on Deathclaw, give him a Reikland Runefang or Ghal Maraz and watch him go 200 kills easy each game. He's a machine in melee.

Not sure how good of duelist he is however.
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>>162781560
Yeah it's pretty hard to get to Kislev before Chaos does. It was easier when there was less factions.
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>>162781612

Go all out in the melee tree or nothing at all

He's a beast with Deathclaw
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>>162781612
All LL not named Skarsnik should be leveled into their offense trees of course. Leave buffing to your lesser lords.
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>>162781612
I've been told that he's one of the better LL fighters but for campaign I usually get the army buffs for LL first.
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>Random captain gives the best speech in the entire campagin against Scicily

Goddamn

Meanwhile the generals are rambling maniacs
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>>162781792
>>162781612
He has Duelist he's actually better at attacking single targets or bigger targets. But he has his way with infantry too. He's good overall. I prefered my Franz as a leader not warrior and he was pretty strong anyway on his bird with Ghal maraz.
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>>162781607
If you get about 6-8 units of flamming glade guard the other woodelves are pretty easy to conquer. You can use your archers to slaughter their treekin and treemen, then the fight is pretty easy. I ended up killing all the other elves as orion because they kept attacking my bretonnian vassals. I had mass wild riders though, which effectively nullified half the enemy armies which comprised of archers. What made it even easier is having the +12/+12 attack and defence skill so my glade guard were killing their eternal guard in melee.
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CLIMB
THE
MOUNTAIN
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>>162781818
I don't bring lesser lords. Should I be? I just recruited my first captain.
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>>162781818
Wurrzag makes Savage orcs into rape machines
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>fighting savage orcs as welfs

is there a better feeling?
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>>162776878
Not much there except really old fluff. Kislev has the ice wizards/witches, most famously the Tzarina. Also a few Baba Yaga-esque forest hags who basically sometimes help out when they feel like it and whom basically nobody wants to have anything to do with otherwise.

Tilea IIRC had a few rogue imperial college wizards tool around, with various city-states trying on and off to emulate the idea with varying success.

Estalia has a tiny quasi-college system that's a lot smaller than the Empires because the very idea had the Myrmidia cult pulling a full-blown Spanish Inquisition that makes Empire Witch Hunters look positively nice and relaxed. So all the sanctioned estalian wizards are practically required to constantly have an inquisitor looking over their shoulder.

Plus you got hedge wizards all over the Old World who tend to suffer varying amounts of persecution and/or getting drafted by local lords.
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rape is good
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>>162782206
Savage orcs fucking suck, though.
>No armor
>All that damage but
>no armor piercing
And one of your main enemies in the badlands are dorfs, covered head to toe in armor and packing Quarrelers which even shit on units with good armor, so they just rape savages.
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>>162782206
What's his bonus?

All I remember is that he gives -50% upeep if they're in his group
>>
>Reinforcements delayed

RIP Brave Captain
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>>162782510
They get a charge bonus too under Wuurzag and I think he also has a leadership buff that can make them better.

But like >>162782481 said savages just suck.
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>>162782481
What if savage orcs damage was mostly AP?
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how to play campaign without wood elves?
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>>162782481

Savage Orcs get something like a 35% ward save don't they?

Since they are cheap for Wurrzag, you can literally flood the enemy with killy rape machines and buff them all with big damaging depending on what WAAAGH magic you have.
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Tell me about the Bolt-Thrower.
Is it good for anything at all?
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>>162782740
1) kill them
2) raise them
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>>162782802
too late, they've already destroyed bretonnia
>>
AW SHIT
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>>162782789

Early, cheaper war machine that you can use to take out heavy cavalry or to focus down Giants/Arachnaroks.
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>>162782760
In sieges that isn't an option though.
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>>162782740
Let them do something that's worth writing into the book, like trespassing in your beautiful holds.
Settle the grudge by razing Athel Loren to the ground.
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>>162776350
t.sway de ann
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>>162782952

Why not?
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>>162782789
It's a budget-version cannon that you can build early on with minium infrastructure/buy for cheap in custom and MP battles.
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>>162744898
rollan
>>
>start empire campaign
>capture reikland
>never leave, build up cities
>remain there for the next 80 turns
>chaos shows up, weakened
>kill archachump
>rebuild the the ruined empire
>win

wew lad
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Which one is worst, the skaven-fag or the goblin-fag?
>>
>>162783214
Because they are clusterfucks. Combine that with towers and your savages having fuck all for armor.
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>>162783264
>>162782789
This, plus it also has a high rate of fire and is very good at anti air.
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I like calling Durthu Tree hitler

We need spicy Durthu names
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>>162783638
the elf-fag
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There is only one Emperor, plebs
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>>162783638
Ogre fags

jk they're the best because they don't fucking spam
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>>162784274
They really are the best because they don't exist.
>>
/twg/ what the crap is going on
>>
Someone post the little boy Skarsnik picture
>>
How do you guys play as horde factions in warham?

I can barely maintain 1 army and the AI has 6 stacks of elites and high leveled champions everywhere.
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>>162784804
>buying those shit factions
>>
what are unicorns good for?
>>
>Orcs always talk about loving to fight
>They run off the battlefield quicker than a Bretonnian peasant

Are orcs just all talk?
>>
Hey guys, I'm playing Grimgor, can I get frightiness in quest battles?
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>>162783602
>Start Empire Campaign
>Spend 50 turns building
>Feel bad because I feel like I am just cheating so I restart
>Start attacking the faggots to the north along the river
>They spam armies of those mace niggers
>Agents constantly harassing my guys
>Keep losing because half my army is dead by the time they can actually fight from agents
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>>162785069
Orc are like typical teenage bullies who are confident in group against someone weaker. When they have equal or stronger enemy they run like cowards.
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>>162785198
>attacking your fellow Elector Cunts
By Shitmar, no!
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>>162785069
Orcs love a fight they can win
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>>162768949
AHAHAHAHAHA fucking elves. Cucked from one of their Goddesses by best boy humans.
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this Estalia/Tilea/BorderPrince mod any good? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=708051537
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>>162785528
yeah it makes invasions of the region fun
>>
So once I upgraded my tree to level 4 and 3 beastmen armies showed up. I loaded my last save and got ready for them, but now they aren't? what am I missing?
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>>162784804
don't mind the shitpost anon, to begin with you have to play defensively at least as chaos, capture skaeling settlements and take out a few of their cities, build chaos warriors asap and focus on camp upgrades for faster growth.

How you maintain armies is by sacking high level settlements, kislev comes to mind. I imagine if you were hyperaggressive you could do it turn 10 BUT, due to early game only having one horde its worth it to be more careful.

Now, once your camp is lvl 5, you should have unlocked one of the other chaos legendary lords for recruitment, as well as a treasury of at least 20k retreat your horde into the wild dark yonder of the chaos wastes, build your new horde, give him a few troops and then bail.

Leave him there until he has a 20 stack, he is now your weak army slayer, who follows behind your main force and hits the poorly defended lines.
I imagine your budget deficit will be around -2000 at this stage, this is fine as a good sacking will get you over 20k.

as for beastmen, attack anything that an army isnt near, hidden encampment.
repeat this until you win
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>>162785198
Empire Captains do lots of damage to the entire enemy army.
Why don't you spam some of your own?

Don't forget to ambush as well.
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>>162744898
roll
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>>162785719
My biggest problem with beastmen is how the AI always has 1000 stacks all the time and always know where I am, even hunting me all around the world.

The welves are especially annoying since they never stopped hunting me and they always had 3 full armies chasing me AND were able to destroy the empire with whatever else they had.

Pure bullshit. I want my money back.
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new thread
>>162786250
>>162786250
>>162786250
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>Built armory and upgraded my stables all the way
>Still can't build Demigryph knights
This is really making me think. Seriously, what the fuck?
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>>162784804
Pretty much you'll want to strike at weak targets and sack for quick money.

Also lighting strike and the growth skills are top priority for dealing with your economy and making sure you don't get taken out by swarms of AI stacks.

You'll also want to get away form marauders as fast as you can, they're ok at the start but start to become useless fast.
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