/twg/ - Total War General

first for this game needs more waifus

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I made this because i still play Napoopan

First for the Electric Cunts

>>162786369
/his/fags not even once

5th for wood elves ruined the grand campaign for humans with their aggressive AI that CA carelessly threw in

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>>162786369
>playing as worst germany
>>162786435
kill yourself

>>162786435
Austria won Leipzig????

>>162786369
I actually after playing Rome 2 , Warhammer as Empire I felt like i need to play Empire Total War. It was awesome I played as Poland-Lithuana commonwealth and I set myself a goal to take back Jerusalem from filthy Ottomans.

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>>162786354
It really doesn't. Not like they'll even be comparable to Vampire-chan's delicious thighs anyway.

>>162786492
Want me to make a Blucher meme?

or whatever unit you want im taking requests

>>162786518
Not ONE (1) legendary lord waifu other than Prince Sigvald. This is a travesty.

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>>162786518
I'm going to marry Vampire-chan!

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>>162786518
Perfection.

VCs would be the best faction if it weren't for the Mannbabby

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>162786694
Anyone know what the heck is up with this?

>>162785719
Is the +growth skill in the lord's tree worth while at all for Chaos?

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>>162786492
Prussian needle-dick. Say that to my line infantry and not online, see what happens.

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I don't use mods like this, but I gotta admit, seeing the Wardancer models with the Spellsinger legs is deliciously lewd.

>>162786518
>ywn be a vampire chans beloved human servent
>She will never sit on your face

>Playing wood elves
>Economy is based on wine and elf blood.

neat

the elf blood is due to the seemingly limitless elf rebellions and the generous athel loren garrisons fact that there's no penalty to selling captives as woodies

how do i overcome the desire to quit and restart as soon as something goes wrong?

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>>162786518
Nothing will beat Glade Lady's voice

>>162787261
savescum until you beat every race on legendary then enjoy the game on Hard and don't give a shit about anything and immerse yourself

>>162786236

get a ai suffer more attrition mod, by default they take like 10% what the player does anon

>>162786861
Nevermind, I figured it out.

Apparently you have to be IN the settlement to recruit Demigryphs. Not that I'd fucking know because CA didn't bother to put that as a clear tooltip when scrolling over them.

>>162787267
Gladey is cute! CUTE!!! I want to kiss Gladey!!!

So once I upgraded my tree to level 4 and 3 beastmen armies showed up. I loaded my last save and got ready for them, but now they aren't? what am I missing?

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>>162786518
>>162787107

I want to serve Vampire-chan in this life and the next!

I hate welves so much.

I make my first priority to kill them, whatever my faction is.

I just want to play giant tree monsters but I feel like no matter where I go, I'm fucked. I attack Karak Norn and Skarsnik, then the Empire provinces attack me and raze my amber holds. I attack Bretonnia and they just hide in their keeps until they got enough horse archers and regular yeoman to surround me. The other elves seem to start with a level 2 settlement instead of a level 1 like me, and they just sit in their settlement all day, so attacking the elves seems like a no-go.

I guess the elves have an easier start?

>>162787678
not really.

its probably actually worse. only benefit is dwarf allies but they'll backstab you sooner or later.

use the amber techs if possible to make your relations good with a faction. it can be really worth it.

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>My glade ladys Waywatchers had 280 range before patch
>now they have 202
wew

>>162787429
The AI will cheat you all the time. For instance, as the Empire if you take Helmgrat right after taking that one settlement the secessionist army spawns by, the beastmen will literally just sit around in ambush stance waiting for you to leave Helmgrat undefended, which if you don't understand that this will happen you literally will always do because you get a mission to go take the 3rd and final settlement from the secessionists. The beastmen will then sack Helmgrat and there is nothing you could have done about it because the game won't show you where the beastmen are on the map.

Which is why literally everyone takes Helmgrat last from the rebels.

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>>162786250
oooooh chinaman thread!!

i rike it!!

Did wood elves being added ruin the beastmen grand campaign?

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this is the worst, i literally just bought him last turn

>>162787084
I was thinking of making a mod where ALL elves have spell slinger legs. I think I would just have to edit a textfile to make each unit use a certain mesh.

>>162788131
Your own fault for playing Greenskins. Bloody Handz or bust.

>>162788131
Those building icons look different. What mod?

>>162787906
woops meant to say 180

>>162788316
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696257540

>>162788251
Isn't that event guaranteed within the first few turns on the free shaman you get?

>Be Orion, king in the woods and lord of the hunt
>Be reborn and ready to lead the NEETs on a great hunt to purge the forest of interlopers
>Go to the Glade lords to tell them to ready their forces
>lol go jump off a cliff, we wont see Athel Lorthen divided by your selfish desires
Killed my immersion in the mini campaign. Is this how it is in the lore aswell?

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>>162786518
Superior Vampire-chan coming through.

>Enemy begins a mass rout
>use sisters of the thorn ability to prevent them from running
>slaughter them all

Fuck i love these slow down spells. Net is the best by far, but they're great in battle and they're great after the battle too.

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This may be the most meme game I ever play

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wtf how do i heal faster

>>162789052
get in a friendly province

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>>162788943
you know eagles cant do anything right?

>>162788560
Thanks.

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>>162788807
Seems familiar

>>162789113

That's my ally, i'm playing a reasonable, non memeforce.

>>162789098
thank you so much!

>>162789052
Merge and rerecruit

why the fuck can the AI form back to back confederations?! fucking welvs are all united and spreading doom by turn 15

>>162785719
You can get a second horde on turn 2

>>162789052
You recover fastest in The Wastes
I'm not sure about how it works in the rest of the world, perhaps based on Corruption Level?
Personally, I cheated, and got the "Higher Replenishment Rates" modification!!

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>Orion has a grab and spear them animation
>Durthu has an Avatar of Khaine sword stab
>Female Glade Lords have the gymnastics
>Spellsingers use the force

This DLC has been pretty great animation wise, I didn't think they would be giving the Lords and Heroes any unique animations. Since it was mostly monsters and shit that got those in the base game.

Any ideas for good kill animations for future races? Or just animations in general?

Personally I'm hoping for the Green Knight, if CA actually has the balls to give a full revive ability to him, to get his head chopped off, and then gets back up and puts it back on. Then just moseys on back into the fight.

It'd also be cool to see Settra charge through a unit with his chariot, have a guy stuck on his weapon, and him casually toss him aside.

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>Gobbo Archers

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>>162788807
Nice enactment

Do anti-large spearmen/halberd have a bonus against monstrous infantry or just giant-like things?

>>162790181
anon durthu also has a root crush pummel on man sized models, he picks up some chump with his roots and crushes them, then stomps them into the ground, leaving a stomped in the ground bodyu.

absolutey glorious

>>162790512
Anything horse-sized or bigger.

>>162790181
I'd love to see a special animation for a human size lord killing a giant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek

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wood elves a BEST

>>162789604
The AI doesn't get confederation penalties and starts with a diplomatic boost.

It's compete horse shit.

>>162791116
SUMMON

>>162791369
THE

>>162791430
ELECTOR

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>>162790181
>>162790842
durthu grabs the mean men

>>162790842
I've been wanting to see one of those for a while now. Like having Franz taking out the legs of the giant, and then finishing him off with a whack of his hammer is one of the ones I always imagined in my head.

You know CA always talks about how "legendary" and great the Lords are supposed to be. But they tend to make them pretty dull on the battlefield animation wise. I really do hope they rework some of them, since I at least want to see them have unique kill animations at some point like Orion and Durthu.

>>162791619
Would you mind if those big animations required some 5/6 seconds of downtime?

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>>162791487
dwarfed
my favourite bit of the kill

>>162791619
there is a lord execution for vargulfs where the lord jumps on the face and stabs them I think anon

>>162790842
>>162791487
>>162791619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TIhWn3ZG9Y

If the Bloodthirsters get in-game and Franz doesn't have a kill animation against them like this, I think I might cry.

>>162791701
I personally wouldn't mind it, it's not like Total War is fucking StarCraft where people get autistic over every half-second wasted.

>>162791701
Not really, I play these games for fun, and half the fun for Warhammer is the spectacle during the real-time battles. So a bit of a long animation isn't a big deal for me.

>>162791705
>there is a lord execution for vargulfs where the lord jumps on the face and stabs them I think anon

Never seen that one personally, but I have caught a glimpse of the one against a troll. Seems to be something all units with the Empire Swordsman animations can do.

>>162791701
There's already so much downtime in battle where units stare at eachother until they throw their next attack anyway.

How good are Chaos ranged cav? Worth buying?

Should I just raze everything up north as chaos or awaken the tribes?

>>162792118
smash the shitter tribes for cash and growth till you are happy, then vassalize them and maybe awaken a few tribes. Vassals can't wardec each other (i think?) so you don't have to worry about some norscan backstab fuckery also vassalising them gives you some good places the replenish if you get fucked.

>>162792118
Awaken enough to unlock Siggy, then leave Norsca never to return

>>162787020
>>162787020
wait, since when do you get ranked fire in napoleon?

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>>162792421
Not that guy, but I feel like I gotta finish the job with the rest of the Norscans...

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>>162792968
>tfw AI has heat-seeking armies

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>+20 fucking range

>>162792042
Chaos cav in general is dogshit.

>>162793550
where's your goblin archers now

>>162793550

has that helped the wood elves much?

>>162793752
DUNNO MAN
I should be playing the wood elves now. I pre-ordered and all. But I've barely touched it over other vidya.

>>162793752
Its not as big as people say. It's really just for bullying people who thought they could out-skirmish the elves. Glade Guard still plump when you cook em

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Guys I thought I was going to have fun and play Medieval 2 Total War again with Stainless Steel. But I started an Aragon game and played my first battle which was a siege. Siege pathfinding, Ai, and response time is so fucking bad holy shit. I remember that sieges are like 80% of the battles in Medieval 2. How do you deal with units being unable to go up stairs while arrows murder them all because one dude got stuck outside the wall? Or 4 towers just mowing dudes down because 2 crossbowmen are on the gatehouse and your guys keep pausing and readying their shields instead of just stabbing the crossbows?

I don't know if I can do it guys.

Can Woodelf factions confederate?

>TWW already takes up 60gb on my ssd
>To download a 121mb update it has to download a 23gb patch
>Not enough room on ssd to patch the game because steam refuses to unpack it on my other drive
>Literally easier to delete the game and just redownload it

>>162794363
stainless steel is a shit mod

>>162794885
the only thing wrong with SS is that cavalry is too powerful

>>162794493
need t3 oak of ages

>>162794493
When the Oak is at level 3, yes. If you're not playing a wood elf faction at all, then the Wood Elves will confederate the other faction elf factions by turn 15.

>>162791849
>CA can't do these kinds of animations because of muh skellingtons!!!
shills are so full of shit

>>162794493
The AI blob up almost instantly
As the player it's more difficult

>>162782041
thanks for the advice my dude. Will start posting about the campaign once I get time to play it.

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G O B L I N S

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This thing is an underrated gem, rolls over entire columns of infantry like butter.

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>>162795363
Goblins...

>>162791469
COUNTS

>>162795416
until they fuck up for being chariots.
I wonder how much better they are now. I haven't tried them post-buff.

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all your faces when you look at the workshop top weekly list, and 6/9 of the mods are fucking cheat mods

>>162793862
>over other vidya.
Which other games?

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za wushran

>>162796134
The middle face sums up my reaction.

1-3 Start a new Grand Campaign as VC
4-6 Play DA:O
7-9 Finish Tyranny
0- Play Overwatch and slit wrists

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>>162795839
Bud...

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>>162796134
>mfw there's still autists here who care what mods other people use

>>162796261
we did it team!

>>162796261
Time for you to go Mannlet.

>>162795169
Who said that exactly? Cause I don't think it was the guy thought responded to.

>>162796354
Old arguments anon, not in this thread

>>162796261
all of those games are pleb tier

>>162796261
I hope you pick that mod to make Vlad the rightful leader...

>>162796261
>DA:O
Why? It was overhyped trash and it can't have aged for shit.

>>162796346
All you retards saying "Mannlet" were probably playing him before the Vlad update.

Mannfred used to be so fucking cool before they added Vlad. He surpasses Nagash, how can you beat that? I hate Vlad. He's not the true Von Carstein.

>>162796318
anon what people choose to ruin their game with is their own business, the problem is what about the guy who creates custom textures in for his favourite unit, which look amazing but are currently 98th on the workshop under 20 pages of identical cheatmods. He then gets 50 subscribers and never continues modding.

That's why I hate the cheat mods, not because they are cheat mods but over 70% of the workshop pages are shitty cheat mods, drowning out little man modder.

If that's autism then I'm a fucking autist then

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>>162796138
Path of Exile(JUST died literally moments ago so I'm probably done for the league.)

Overwatch(For the first time in three months or so, uninstalled after three days in a row of Blizzard fucking up strayan servers(literally everyone in the matches had 220 ping))

Senran Kagura

Killing Floor 2

Prepared a modded Fallout 4 to play(All Bethesda titles get two runs, one vanilla, one modded awhile after release/DLC. First round lasted like 32 hours, maybe I'll get that many again with it modded.)

Supreme Commander Forged Alliance(_Forever", so multiplayer.)


>>162796701
DA:O was okay, some of the world building was fun. The things you did were generally satisfying. The only thing that made is mediocre for me was the fact that ALL(sans Shale) companions were fucking awful characters.
It was just a generically okay pre-Tali-romance Bioware game.

>>162796741
Sounds like a problem with how the workshop functions and not the content it has. Considering steam has the same problem when it comes to searching for games (wading through tons of indie garbage to find a decent title) it's hardly surprising.

so what programs are people using to make some neat webms

>>162797218
OBS to record --> Webm for retards to convert

Should I rush for Chosen or save up pop. for the neat shit like Chaos Trolls or Chariots?

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>>162792396
>Vassals can't wardec each other (i think?)
this some shit

>>162797352
eh as long as you replace chaos marauders with chaos warriors (as marauders are terrible) you already have an alright anvil, do whatever seems most fluffy/fun to you anon

>>162797516

fuck guess i was wrong, just fuck them both then i guess.

>>162797516
He gave poor chaos advice. The trick is to have ONE(1) vassal.

>>162797516
Awakened tribes are not your vassals, just allies.
Pro tip:after awakaning a tribe, attack its only settlement and vassalize it. Free levels, and you have no use for diplomatic reliability anyways.

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>>162797964
>Using Reiksguard over Demy Knights

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>>162798383

>using Demi Knights at all

>>162798383
Fuck min-maxxing.
Demigryphs look retarded.
Reiksguard are based.
Also a charge of a full unit of cav charge in close formation is far more satisfying than a few big retards flopping into the enemy lines.

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>>162796735
>t. Mannlet von Shortstein

>>162798793

d-do not mock me..

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god i wish i didnt give up so easily

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V O R E

>>162798976
How old is your PC my dude?

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One tribe survives.

this gon be ruff

>>162799234
>Ostland all over the place
>Kislev still alive
>Bretonnia lost their capital, moved down to Marienburg
>Kraka Drak is alive

What the fuck is this mess, anon?

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>>162786250

Interesting army choice, Ungrim

>>162799620
what a bleedin idiot

>>162799512
C'mon man, it's the first time I've left the Wastes/Norsca.
Ostland is fuck huge; dunno how I'll get past their 4-5 stacks.

>>162799620

>Ungrim
>0 kills

shit bigwill97, what the h*ck are you doing?

>>162799620
ANON WAS THIS QUICKPLAY OR lobby multi, need to know

>Used dwellers below for the first time.
>Worried it'd just be that debuff smoke
>its animation is actually pretty cool with roots coming out of the ground and whipping around.

good shit.

I always thought it was weird ground spirits pulling people into their under empire but giant roots make more sense.

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Jesus christ how many free gigs do you need for this update?

>>162800224
Quickplay, why?

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Wow, clan angrund is easily the hardest start of any faction in any total war game.

now with wood elves in the mix i have literally no clue what to do.

I meanm it's turn 20 something and i'm facing stacks from like 6 different factions, plus i'm going bankrupt trying to maintain a 80% stack of shit units.

>>162800308
pack file size * 2

>>162800308
Too many, I just deleted the game and re-downloaded it.

>Use Waaagh and Big Waaagh melee buffs
>Orc boys have like 140 attack

BASH EM, AND SMASH EM

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>162800984
I re-downloaded it but I don't think I got the patch since my Waywatchers only have 180 range.

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the mongol rape train

>>162800997
Melee attack is a shitty meme stat. The only stat that matters is weapon strenght.

>>162801143
remove name

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>>162801110
Rape Train 2: Electric Boogaloo

>cornered
>siggy sniped by treehitler who's angry about events overseas
guess i oughta restart

>>162801143

>Still namefagging for literally no reason

Can you actually not?

>>162800224
hey bigwill

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>>162801274

Err, what is the lastest Warhammer version?
I'm at 1.5.0 I see people saying things about a big update and I'm not sure if I ever saw it updating.

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>>162801205
watching my brave men die while this plays after battle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq17ZVh15UU
you died like true romans the empire will persevere thanks to your sacrifice ;_;7

>>162801172
>>162801318
Fuck off autists I am in no way shape or form causing you any kind of harm or stress.

>>162801365

You can sail across to Norsa further up I believe?

Do those LL cheat mods work for the AI? I'm looking at the ones that give growth and 1 turn building/recruitment/tech. I'm bored of early game cheese on legendary and steamrolling on other difficulties so I figure maybe I could have a lot more fun with end game unit battles right from the beginning.

>>162801416

>Extremely concerned about people on a Polynesian coconut-sculpture bulletin recognizing him and his manic devotion to Reddirats
>Calls other people autistic

Top wew

>>162801597
Tldr ;^)

>>162801143
PLEASE play multiplayer

Ah that was a great battle.

>AI Bretonnian army that was fairly balanced attacks a beastmen horde near one of my outpost.
>Battle takes place in a beast path
>My 3 dryads and 2 deepwood archers move in to support said bretonnian army as they move down the beast path.

That was actually incredibly fun being a sort of small elite force of a bigger AI army and using them to target the weaker points helping break their troops with fear or shoot priority targets.

Good stuff.

exalted hero seems like dogshit
c/d?
maybe a lot better with the manticore?

>>162801398
A-yo!
I have no fucking idea how to google-fu this.
Someone fire it up and tell me.

>>162801398
yes patch 5 is the latest version. 1.5
Was a hotfix/balancing of elves to give them more anti-dwarf since reddit cried about dudes with crossbows in chain mail with shields out killing naked men with bows.

>>162802509
>Wood Elf archers are the worst in the game, when they should be the best!
>Quarrellers, for example, will outshoot them toe to toe, but if you are toe to toe with Quarrellers something has gone very wrong already. The strength in Wood Elf archery comes from precision, manoeuvrability and the wealth of additional abilities and ammo types which make them a much more flexible threat on the battlefield point for point. Other ranged units will do more technical damage in terms of a straight number value, but that is ignoring the full package.
+20 range and +4 damage = caving into Quarrellers?????

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>>162802509
Get fucked stuntie

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>>162802509
>dudes with crossbows in chain mail with shields
yes
>out killing naked men with bows.
naked ELVES with MAGICAL bows

>>162802664
Why does she have twigs tied to her abdomen? Are elves really this dumb?

>>162802784

They're magic twigs.

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YARI ASHIGARU GOZAIMASU

>>162802664
>>162802663
>>162802627
>>162802509
Weekly reminder that the Dwarfs officially "won" the War of Vengeance, even if it was a pyrrhic victory. If the High Elves couldn't beat the Karaz Ankor, their hick cousins in the woods won't fare much better, despite fighting a diminished Dwarfen kingdoms.
Also worth keeping in mind that Dwarfs have a natural resistance to magic (which is also reflected in game) so even magical arrows will see less effect than usual against a Dwarfen unit. Ideally, open war against the Dwarfs would be avoided.

>>162802865
This looks pretty offensive. I can only imagine what an African faction would look like in gws eyes.

>>162803003
anon please kindly do yourself in at the next possible opportunity

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>>162803003
Only they're called "Pygmies" instead of "Dindus" but the end result is the same
Although I guess there is some Southlander sketches that look pretty badass but they never had any rules or models at any point

>>162802953
The only fucking reason why the stunties won was because our phoenix king was a shitty colossal fuck up. Had Caledor the first been phoenix king that war would have been over in a 100 years.

>>162803236
>Our

>>162803236
>been over in a 100 years
Smh, no wonder the elder races are dying out. Your stupid and petty conflicts over the centuries probably did more to feed chaos than hinder it.

I liked how in med2 reinforcements sometimes got greatly delayed it resulted in some pitched battles that were very fun and close

a shame all my screens of it are gone

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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799664107

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>>162802953
>Weekly reminder that the Dwarfs officially "won" the War of Vengeance
We'll see ingame, Dwarfs are bad atm and with High Elves they'll get even worse.
Can't wait to cleave a bloody swath with my Swordsmasters through lines of dwarfish scum!

>>162803319
Fucking stunted wretches started the whole damn thing.

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>>162802953
>>162803236
>>162803543
This guy >>162803319 gets it, you're all fighting a war you can't win.

>>162803574
>Assault an emissary of the Dwarfen race.
>Expect nothing to happen.
Elves, everyone.

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>>162803574

The real perpetrators behind the war of vengence is surprise, surprise, elves.

>>162802509
Thanks mate, I was getting paranoid.

Where the fuck did the people get the idea that WElves are a shooty faction, anyway?

They've got no Arty & half their roster are trees!

Anyone wanting gunlines can goto Stunties or wait for High/Dark Elves.

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>>162803543
My answer to Swordmasters of Hoeth on the table top was a well placed trebuchet shot.

Hundreds of years of sword practice only for them to be killed by a couple inbred peasants and boulder.

>>162803574
This unbaraki standin' with such a pointlessly tall point of view but still can't see his own pubeless kin started it. What a skruff.

Is it at all a decent idea to have 3 or 4 games going at the same time?
I want to try all the factions now!
I get it, hammer and anvil with empire. Or if you don't want to go broke, flank with skirmishers.

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>>162803543

>Swordmasters
>not wanting the best mother fucking unit in the entire TT

8th edition Elves was a mistake.

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>>162803537
thank you very much. i like the dwarfs very much and the challange to their starting postion. but i hate when grimgor comes to my land with 3 stacks raids it and then fucks off. and goes to help chaos or something or raid the empire and then i have to move my army for a decade to fight him. weanwhile they are raiding my lands again

>>162803653
>>162803704
>>162803891
If the dwafrfs weren't such colossal drunkards they should of realized that it was Druchii that raided their shitty caravans. They should have known better than to falsely accuse their superiors without any kind of evidence.

Is update live? Nothing downloaded for me yesterday and there is nothing new in the betas.

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>>162804012
Great Swords>shitty spears

>>162804012

A-At least 8th edition nerfed Teclis!

>>162804054
Are you calling me a wazzock?

>>162804012

Clearly, because it killed the game.

>Starting point for building an army is like $800
>All the new releases were giant centerpiece monster that, while awesome, were dogshit thanks to the rules for monsters.

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>>162804182

>posting a thumbnail

Embarrassing!

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>>162803537
>Taking out the Book of Grudges.
That's going in the book.
>>162804016
Build walls. Even that cheeky fuck can't solo walled garrisons. If he won't stand and fight you after that, just take all of his cities until he either comes back or gets murdered, the grudge will be aborted.
>>162804054
>superiors.
Which is why they lost the war, right?

>>162803543
>Dwarfs are bad atm
do you have a single fact to back that up

>>162804197
And they nerfed Slann too but buffed those fucking wood elfs. Why the fuck did Ward make WEs better mages than HEs?

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Let me know when WE aren't OP as fuck in the GC

Turn 80 and they're stronger than everyone else combined

fuck off

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>>162804270
I forgot to meme arrow my >>162804016
My b

>>162804270
Bitch ass Caledor 2 lost th3 war. If they had Caledor 1 or even better Tethlis the stunties would of been sent back to the stone age. Oh wait a giant fat frog did that already on accident.
Sad!

>>162804253

I meant more about the ridiculous rules they gave the elves, I wouldn't know much about monsters because they were too expensive to justify.

>Hatred (playing against faggot dark elf players who can't wipe the shit eating grin off their faces whenever they announce they are going to reroll)
>ASF
>generic +4 Ward Saves for already cheap, killy as fuck units

I hate elf TT players. Probably my own mistake for thinking I could be competitive with a Greenskin army.

>>162804467
>using memeskinz
>expecting to beat anyone
Fucking beastmen had a good chance of kicking your ass.

>>162804467

Greenskins certainly had it bad in 8ed.

>Army wide rules actually make the army worse, not better

They did the same shit to Greenskins in 40k and now they're shit tier

>>162804535

I got my green boyz back in 6th edition so I had a rollercoaster of shit and aids to go through

I wish I could murder the faggot who thought animosity rules are "fun" to deal with. While I appreciate the humorous side that Greenskins have always had, animosity was fucking bullshit and no fun at all to play with.

>>162804428
>Muh ancient kings.
A failure to protect the king is a failure on the part of the soldiers. Caledor may have made poor strategic decisions, but he wasn't the only Elf in the war. His biggest failure was starting the war with his arrogance.
>Dwarfs back to the stone age.
Which is why they have the best artillery, and are the most advanced race, right? All the skill and training in the world doesn't matter when an Organ gun opens fire on your line.

>>162804295

>Why the fuck did Ward make WEs better mages than HEs?

WE's aren't really better Mages.

They're a bit more versatile, in that they have access to one more Lore, but they only really have generic casters (besides Durthu who isn't much of a caster) and they have nothing that's the equal of Teclis even in 8th, High Elves also have better magic items for casting.

>>162803537
There's a special place for modders like this. That place is called "the Dammaz Kron"

>>162805226
hey, it ain't our fault CA implemented a bunch of different event mechanics for each race that are shallow and uninteresting and bothersome as FUCK

>>162805346
If you don't want to deal with grudges, don't play Dawi!

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>>162803537
This is up there with no floppy hats.

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>>162805346

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How many times do you think you've seen this map by now?

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>>162805346

>>162805486
Too many times

>>162797964
https://youtu.be/uhkEYthGz5w?t=196

So, LL choices for High Elves and Dork Elves?

>High Elves
Tyrion
Teclis
Alarielle
(only tyrion will be ever used since >using mage LL's ever)

>Dorks
Malekith
Morathi
Malus

>>162805749
I'd say you have it about right for Delves. Though I could see them selling Malus as DLC since his fanboys would eat that up.

>>162804282
no one uses them

>>162804370
As soon as Bretonnia are released and get a massive overhaul. You should see WE being pusehd back and destroyed a lot around that time.

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>Sneaking Free Company through the back streets to get the drop on the garrison leader in the square.

Is there no better feeling?

>>162805486
Millions of times, I fucking hate the first few Empire turns so damn much I don't want to play them anymore

>>162805749
Tyrion as faction leader would be blasphemy, Alarielle should lead HE. Every faction with leaders in lore are ruled by them in game.

Ancient Empires campaign yet?

>>162805850
What does everyone want to see in bretonnia.

I'm hoping that there's a mechanic for lords (not legendary lords) to have their own quest line. like a randomly generated amount of units needed to be recruited (1-3 x unit), a location to go to, and a random enemy to fight (army belonging to x race) and when they activate this quest they get the questing vow, and on completion they get the grail vow + a magic item and cash reward.

I know people don't like quest too much but I would like to hope that bretonnian armies straying from home should be something.

>>162806019
Uglier Bretonnian peasants.

>>162805749
Alarielle is less likely than Elatharion.
CA kinda understand how shit casters are and won't do two pure caster lords for one faction when better options do exist.

>>162805945
Tyrion works as de-facto leader as highest general. The other factions with rulers as lords do function as the top military dog.

How much is the different between Elf campaign and Grand?
Is there still a Chaos invasion?

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>>162806152
>Is there still a Chaos invasion?

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>>162806019
A fuckton new units.

They want Bretonnia to be as feature complete as everyone else, but be sure to compare the Wood Elf and Bretonnia rosters at the moment.

That's a lot of stuff to add.

I also want my boy Alberic to be viable and not the throwaway like Gelt or Kemmlar. I want the Grail quest that makes up his storyline to be fun and satisfying as fuck.

>>162806019
Tfw you'll just be getting

TURN 26, EVENT
>THE GRAIL HAS BEEN SPOTTED BY SOME PEASANTS
>-1 TURN RECRUITMENT FOR GRAIL KNIGHTS(5 TURNS)

>>162806152
Substantial. it's a mini-campaign. Not even all factions are in it.

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The attention to detail in Attila is pretty great. If your units' morale is decent they look to the front, focused etc.

This here band of archers got demolished by a first wave of Romans and are now shaken. They keep looking behind them as if they want to run.

>>162806193
The problem with adding shit to Bretonnia is that GW abandoned them for years and years, so there simply isn't too much shit to add.

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>>162806193

>>162806112
They could makeshift Funibar model and stats from scratch and make him elven KFC with Teclis as Gelt, Alarielle/Morathi coming in lord pack dubbed "Beauty and Witch".

>>162805749
>Dorks
You

But really I can see them getting what you said, maybe Lokhir Fellheart too? Not much but he'd fit in well with the raiding theme they'll probably push.
I'm so sorry

>>162805831
nice fact there anon

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>>162806258

>>162806248
I think it was Andy Hall who said that they had leeway to add their own stuff, that was in an interview a while back, I'll try and find it.

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>>162791487
Reminder that trees eat shit to survive

Vampire Counts is still the most fun faction. Fact.

>>162806076
This

>>162806342
>I think it was Andy Hall who said that they had leeway to add their own stuff

So you're saying we can get some "Black Powder WAAAAGH! Knights (Ranged Infantry)" for Bretonnia?

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>>162806342

>>162806076
I wouldn't mind if they were more muck covered

>>162806276
Nah, Morathi is very clearly the #2 option for Dark Elves, while Arielle is very far back in #3 for High Elves. They don't compare in importance at all.

>>162806193
It's going to be interesting to see just what CA does to them and how far they go.

Especially if they delve waaay back and give them things like the cannons and Pivot guns again.

Could even make all Peasant/Knight armies possible.

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>>162791974
>>162791705
Is this the animation you're talking about?

>>162806430
Don't be silly. Radious isn't THAT bad.
Grail Peasants
Dismounted Pegasus Knights

>>162806545
Nah their luddite attitude is too heavily expressed in all recent lore.

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>>162806436

>>162806330
I know

>>162806551
Dismounted Questing/Grail knights (heavy infantry)
Squires (Light cavalry)
Bretonnian Cannons (Fixed artillery)

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>>162806276
Morathi is more likely than either Finubar or Alarielle, neither of which is an actual fighter.

Helf LLs will probanly be: Teclis, Tyrion, Imrik, Korhil, and so on, there is really an abundance of LL material for the Helfs without Finubar and Alarielle.

The Delfs are pretty clear, Malekith and Morathi are both combattants, then you have the corsair guy whose name I always forget.

>>162806346
so that's the reason why they're always killing dwarfs!

>>162806615
True, but their navy does still use Cannons so it's not a huge stretch.

I'm just not sure what they could add that wouldn't be just more variants of knights/peasants honestly. Unless GW had some concepts cooked up but never used.

>>162806346
plants really eat almost anything

>>162801365

>Invading the Chaos Wastes

Fuck me those stacks should just up and die.

>>162796134
Honestly, Amber is a shit idea for a resource.

They should re-do it, and make it income based instead of total amber always amounting to the total amount represented through alliances and provinces held.

Increase cost of amber on oak of ages, so you have to save up for it, instead of risking a permanent deficit of amber if you lose some provinces after upgrading oak of ages.

That would also make more sense for amber-cost units.

>>162806698
Phoenix King and Everqueen have right to represent their race instead of secondary princes.

>>162806770
Navies have been expressed even less than Bretonnians in recent lore my dude.

>>162806810
Nigger they don't even have models.

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>>162801365
>turn 105
>dwarfs still alive

haha what

>>162806810
They're both secondary characters compared to the twins, and still less important than a lot of other named characters.

>>162806841
I think queen slut got a mini.

>>162797925
This is the right answer.

Awaken them, then kill them and dominate them. Do this for a few turns, to really make them understand that you are in charge.

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>>162806810
as someone said earlier, Tyrion is pretty much the Supreme Commander of all Ulthuan Forces, Finubar is a politician and diplomat, not a fighter.

Also the "Secondary Princes" like Imrik have more regional power over their Kingdoms than Finubar has over them.

>>162806796
Kinda makes sense thematically. Wood Elves are slow and cautious in their decision making, as opposed to their battlefield antics.

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>>162806841

>>162807080
What was Tyrion thinking?

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In Shogun 2 campaign, does /twg/ prefer weaponsmith or armorsmith bonuses on their units? On one hand the attack skill bonus on yari ashigaru is noticable and really helps them fight other infantry. Really it helps with any unit that relies on a charge bonus or anti-cav bonus last in melee. On the other hand the ratio increase on armor is better, especially with samurai units (EX: Katana Samurai 12:+4 attack skill ration increase vs 5:+4 armor ratio increase)

Also any advice on when and how to use pic related? They feel very awkward for me to use. For cavalry defense I usually prefer two units of Yari Ashigaru (combined have less upkeep). For anti-infantry they lose-out to Katana Samurai and for an all-rounder unit that can fight cavalry they lose again to Naginata Samurai. Does anyone like/have a use for Yari Samurai?

>>162806698
His name is Lokhir Fellheart, and quite frankly I'd prefer Shadowblade, Kouran, or the character Executioner guy.

I really want to play Shogun 2, but every time I'm about to I remember how abysmal the siege battles are and change my mind, what should I do?

>>162807170
if I'm heavy range I go attack, if I don't have heavy range I got armour

also yari sam are shit, just use ashigaru

>>162807280
>how abysmal the siege battles are

they're the best in the series, what are you talking about?

>>162806615
>>162806545
The way I see it there's three different ways to do it.

Move it more late medieval, add a bombard, early hand cannons a heavy polearm unit etc. but make a Fots like focus on tradition/modernization.

make a more high fantasy style. Add in a few units that play on some of the mythos. Damsel hand maiden units, Ghostly knight or spirit units etc.

Use ideas from the past in 3rd edition, the warhammer fantasy roleplay book etc. to add wardogs, robin hood like peasant bands, foot knights, peasant levies. maybe add a ballista.

or mix and match ideas. Perhaps actually give bretonnia formations since on the table top they were the faction that used unique formations the most

I'd be fine with anything though even if it ended up being a 100% unit per unit faithful adaptation of the 6th ed book with nothing new added.

>>162807436
>
Use ideas from the past in 3rd edition, the warhammer fantasy roleplay book etc. to add wardogs, robin hood like peasant bands, foot knights, peasant levies. maybe add a ballista.

This would kick ass.

>>162807436
I should mention the more late medieval would be the one with hints of peasant rebellion and the allusions to really early editions of bretonnia with its secondary french revolutionary themes

I would prefer Imrik over Eltharion, but the only thing special about him are his uber dragon and iirc his horn, whereas Eltharion has a lot of magic items you make do quest battles for.

>>162807373
Every time you have to fight one or multiple full-stacks in a cramped enviroment it just gets messy.
Also hate the fact that units die randomly while climbing the walls.

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>>162806810
>>162807027
Hmmmmmmm you could say the Elves are in need of a new, real, fighting king with character, not a snooze-fest no-character "I can't fight" bore
Really makes you think
Hmmmmmmm

>>162807436
Your third line of suggestion is the easiest.

The first is too far-fetched. Brets are very strongly established in a fashion that imply modernization will pretty much never happen under any circumstances.

>>162807491
Imrik would be weird, he's pretty boring without the dragon but starting with the dragon would be pretty crazy.

>>162807663
so you'd rather a massive empty settlement when you can camp the town center? shut up

you can always go through the main gate

>>162807678
>showing his face
>not horrific burn victim mutilation
If you're going to promote your race at least understand them. Please.

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>>162807208
Lokhir has some narrative potential to send all over the map though, raiding and doing Black Ark quest battles in every corner of the globe. Would make a good LL pack.

And you are all forgetting the real number 3 narrative character of the Delves (after Malekith & Morathi): The Hag Queen of the Witch Elves, Hellebron

>>162807476
To me this was the most likely idea. I went from least likely to most

Wardogs (or truffle hounds) have always been a fan favorite. and in fan army books they were always accompanied by mounted yeomen (hunting etc.) (actually a bretonnian special character in 5th edition had his own hunting hawk that acted like a missile weapon)

The robin hood like units would probably be similar to deepwood scouts. longbows with vanguard and 360 shooting, but worse but also cheaper. the roleplay called them herimaults. the 5th edition book called them squires, the 6th edition made them a unique peasant archer unit limited to one per army. 5th edition also had a special peasant character i.e. robin hood.

Foot knights were present in 4th and 5th. but mostly just as models. either very heavy and slow tanky infantry with shields and hand weapons like maces. or give them lucerne hammers. While 6th ed made it clear that brets hate giving up their horses. it was never the case. and specific factions in bretonnia (montfort) actually were more keen to fight on foot due to their terrain.

Peasant levies would be even worse expendable peasants. armed with farm tools. They were present in warmaster.


>>162807697
It does require looking back at 3rd edition warhammer and man o war to see the more late french inspirations (the bretonnian ship of the lines with cannons, the models for swivel guns and fire pots) as well as looking at the old lore that made the nobles act like the french aristocrats before the french revolution (out of touch, demolishing villages because they don't like the view. etc. ) It also uses some of these same themes in the fantasy role play supplement which talk about the growing bretonnian middle class of rich peasants and the rise of guilds who use guards that use more modern equipment and even black powder for caravans outside of bretonnia. But I agree it spoils the early medieval aesthetic too much.

>>162807895
Malekith, Morathi, and Hellebron would be fucking awful. At least Mr. Squidface would be a little fun.

>>162807761
Morathi-genetics, even horribly burned the King of the Elves is a handsome guy.

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>dude you didn't stand in the flames of asuryan long enough lmao

Why is learning to mod SO HARD. GOD DAMN.

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>>162808062
Psycho slut elves are the best thing about delves what are you on about m8?

Two witch elf LLs would be ace

>>162808245
nothing in life is given anon.

>>162808198
We do not acknowledge the End Times here, kiddo.

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>>162808140
That may be, but you still look burnt.

>>162808317
Depends on one's favorite characters.

>>162808294
Except the D.

>>162805910

Free Company are definite best girl.

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Best Elves when?

>Really like free company.
>Like pistoliers.
>Hate outriders.

I've had a unit of free company bring down a cygor, but my outriders can't even take on a flank at range. Any tips for using outriders, or do I just need to practice with them?

>>162808779
they suck

>>162808750
which ones?

>>162808750
But that's all elves, anon.

>>162808779

Use them like you would handgunners. They have extra speed and height advantage at the cost of some DPS.

>>162808750
they're already here?

>>162808856
>no armour piercing
>which is the whole point of handgunners

ok

>>162808926
Outriders do have armour piercing you fool. Its pistoliers who don't

>>162790842

If a one handed lord/hero kills a crypt horror/chaos spawn there is a chance they will jump on them and stab them in the chest

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>When the AI corner camps you.

Aww come on AI I don't corner camp you I play fair.

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reddit

>>162809156
Is she doing gymnastics on those poor empire soldiers?

If I confederate Clan Angrund as Dwarfs, can I get Belegar?

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>they know what's coming
Kaz, get the cannons

>>162809275
yes.

>>162808997
thought you were talking about free company, i'm stupid

>>162809206

It's a sync kill of female glade lords

What is the fastest way to get rid of that 2 other elf faction?
they literally just sit on their ass all day with 2 armies reach

>>162808779
>Like pistoliers.
>Hate outriders.
Are you sure you're not mixing them up?

>>162809451

Open diplo screen, ask to join war with a faction they dislike.

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>>162808245
Looking at the projectile mass tables now:
Can someone explain why javelins have a mass of 1 and low projectile peneration?

For comparison:
>Guns have a mass of 5-6 and medium projectile penetration
>Crosbows have a mass of 5 and very_low projectile penetration
>Bows have a mass of 3-5 and very_low projectile penetration

Should javelins have around a mass of 8 and medium projectile penetration?