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Thread challenge: just died in BHC to disconnecting so I'm quitting until GGG gets their shit together. Everyone who posts a webm (with a timestamp shown in chat) of them managing to PK another player through any means (blocking them in lab, killing them during bandits, etc.) after the level 50 mark, will get two exalts. Just post your name and I'll whisper you when I deem the webm good enough. I've got about 24 exalts, so that's 12 webms.

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt (embed)
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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Zizaran was mad as fuck
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How do i stop getting fucked in the ass by breaches? Im 7.1k ES, FB totem, and the second I open a breach i get fucking rolled by the mobs, since theres no where to go to regen my ES without getting smacced
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>>162685547
>7.1k
You want 9k plus when you swap to CI, get the ES unique jewel and better gear.

Also jade+granite means you are immune to physical damage until red maps.
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That does still not solve the issue of not having anywhere to go to regen ES
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>>162685547
ES recharge is an awful defense against Breach, as is anything less than like 7-8% regen.

You also need mitigation.
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>>162685547
drop totems and just leave the breach with your movement skill
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Noob here. How do CI characters solve their stun problems?
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>>162686186
Eye of Chayula
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>>162686186
Valyrium, Chayula or Skyforth
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>>162686186
Items that prevent stun. Other than that, no idea.
>>162686259
This.
>>162686261
These are nice
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>tfw just realized i've been playing zoomed in this whole time
>im level 89 2/3 to 90

shitcrow things
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>>162686560
Are you a low functioning autist?
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>he's playing some fotm meta build or copied his build of the forums/youtube/streamers
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>>162686186
nothing quite so exciting as whirling blading into a dangerous room and seeing if you can get off vaal discipline
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>>162684689
Did he die again on his vaal spark?
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let's see who's the biggest nerd here
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is this thing actually worth anything? poeprice says 25c with a mean of 135 but based off such a small sample size of items i gotta thing it's just retards.

What build would use this?
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>>162685771
>You want 9k plus when you swap to CI

one of my favorite PoE memes
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>>162605679
>free
>>162607397
>free
>>162612276
>free
>>162616314
>free
>>162618506
>FREE
>>162619873
>FREE
>>162622486
>free
>>162626512
>FREE
>>162630384
>free
>>162635115
>Free
>>162639636
>free
>>162643010
>free
>>162650843
>free
>>162650930
>free
>>162651401
>FREE
>>162660587
>free
>>162664718
>FREE
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>>162686953
yes, the server buttfucked him, that's the one way he can die that truly triggers him.
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I've used like 40 vaals already.
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>>162687383
an elemental 2h axe build, probably non crit
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uuuuuhh
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Do you guys do the following recipes?

ID chaos
UNID chaos
ID Regal
UNID regal

or is it a shit opportunity cost and you just stick to unid regals after a few days of the league?

Special stash tab bundle worth a purchase? will they ever put it on special or is it already max discount?

kinda interested in the quad for regal/chaos recipe dumping.
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>>162687383
Price it at 25c and drop by 2-3c per day until it sells

If you get offers within 3-5 minutes of listing, hold onto that shit and re-price.
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>>162687872
fucking wew lad
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>>162686560
Nate would have been better with a gaping smelly cunny
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Is shrapnel shot even remotely viable? I've never used it before and I don't think I've seen it used.
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>>162687383
T3 cold, T3 fire, T1 lightning, T3 attack speed

It's mediocre but you might get 10c for it if you're lucky.
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>>162688050
none of the above past the first couple days. it's not worth the time to organize that shit. pick up the good bases, dump them all into a tab, id them at the end of a batch of maps and vendor all of the ones that aren't sellable.
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>>162688390
But when I listed it I saw it's the fourth highest dps 2h axe on poe.trade
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>>162688050
i do unid chaos only

this pretty much pays for the zana mod itself

some people prefer the ID one, but doing the unid is simply a lot faster. yes you may miss out on some BIS item but it is extremely unlikely
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LET THE CRASHENING BEGIN
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>cant make a decent block staff build
WHY CHRIS
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>>162688667
>what is reckless defense
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>>162688321
It's just a weird skill. GGG made that whole video about 'Making every skill unique' but I can't really think of a situation where shrapnel shot would be used where you wouldn't rather use something else instead. Like, okay, so you've got this piddly little aoe that does fuck all, but you've also got a projectile? Do I use GMP or increased AoE? If I don't hit with both, is it even worth bothering with? No, because it has shit base damage and I need to hit with both portions if you want to be killing anything, and to hit with both I need to be in melee range anyway, so what's the point? Wait, maybe I can do something weird with phys to lightning convers- Oh it's 40% so you can't convert all of your damage properly. Why is it 40%? Nobody knows.

Not a bad skill, just completely pointless and counter-intuitive.
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>>162688667
>You will never fully abuse xirgil's crank
;_;
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can someone explain Vaal orbs to me? I dont understand how someone knows whether or not to Vaal something?
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>>162687872
>Essence memes
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>>162688504
Ele dps means fuck all on a 2h axe since nobody plays ele 2h axe, so you're relying on somebody playing a niche build needing a new weapon.
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>>162688667
>Reckless Defense
>Red Nightmare

Capped block lol
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>log in
>crash
>get to town
>crash
>get to zone
>crash

what the fuck?
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>>162689187
Yeeeaaah... we're working on it
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What's the best build for stacking magic find? Caustic Arrow?
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>>162688910
look at the wiki and find what possible outcomes are. I usually sell mine because they confuse me too if you can't do the opportunity cost calculations.

It used to be common to vaal properly rolled strongboxes for the highest chance at 6 linking (can't change sockets though).

People vaal level 20/20% gems that benefit from gem levels.

People vaal certain uniques with shitty implicits (belts for +1 endurance, necklaces for something, quivers for 1 arrow).

People vaal maps for quant/level ups/bonuses

People vaal gems for achivements

People vaal disfavour for +2 weapon range for god knows why
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>>162689187

exactly how much did you lay to play PoE?

nothing uh?

nothing to complain about then.
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>>162689187
>>162689575
k, it's fixed
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>>162689406
either that or some totem build
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>>162688878
I was afraid of that, oh well. Thanks anon.
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>blade flurry CwC bladefall
Who """""melee""""" here
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>>162689406
MF hasn't been worth it in years outside of maybe early league chaos recipe faggotry. It's all about clear speed memeta. Even then regular clear speed probably provides you a similar amount of recipe fodder.
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What the fuck happened?
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>>162687321
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>>162690851
EHP got buffed all around, new forms of mitigation were introduced, power creep allowed insane damage scaling.

Now, instead of the 'Never enough EHP' mindset, people just get 'enough' survivability and pump everything else into damage because muh clearspeed meta
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Why does my RT cyclone forum build always crap out around T12? It's kinda rippy either from one shots or getting stuck on geometry.

I have... never played an ES or a crit build. How do I pop my cherry? just find the highest ES roll gear and get vaal pact and whatever turns life leech into ES leech? Are there any ES guides?

Shavs is for low life
CI is for raw tank

right? aren't stuns a PITA without skyforth's on CI?
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>>162689067
>>Red Nightmare
Literally the only good place to put it is the marauder socket, and then you have to spend points getting the resists.

>>162690851
What do you mean? Nothing's changed (except replace life with ES where appropriate, obviously).

Are there seriously people who still believe the "infinite builds" meme? Picking up life/ES nodes is not a fucking choice.
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>>162691192
it's going to be a massive learning curve coming from life -ESPECIALLY a literally-never-been-stunned cycloner.
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for shitty meme purposes, I started a project of wanting to edit all the fated unique art to actually be different from the originals.

Pic related is Amplification Rod.

What other ones should I do first before I get bored of this idea?
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>>162691343
Storm Cloud/The Tempest
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>>162691343
Death Opus
Wall of Brambles
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>>162691765
>The death's opus art has a bunch of really hideous, low-transparency smudges all over
oh god this is painful... but I will persevere!
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>>162691224
Templar socket is also good

I mean, besides that, you're taking a 15% res node to get 5% block. That's super fucking good value. The other resistance nodes are also life nodes, and the added damage is pretty good too, plus endurance charge QoL.
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>>162691192
I'm sure curious, do people really think that VP's only good for ES builds?
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>>162692238
Coming from playing a slayer with endless hunger. I'm sure it's quite valuable without it.
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>>162691343
signal fire, that prism bow too
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>>162692238
nah

its just generally uncomfy on life builds when you are doing labs and trials if you are too dumb to avoid traps properly
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>>162685547
fb totems takes a little getting use to in breaches, you should be recasting your totems to proc them, otherwise the trash adds up to quickly and will kill you. don't leave the breach, thats a bad idea, stand your ground stay close to the middle and be aware of status effects they cast. what i did when i was fb totems - cast 2 totems, open breach, pot, recast totems, try to keep your totems chaining, basically cast a totem even second or two. chaining your totem casts can be helpful too. idk why people are not playing shockwave totems this league, they would be pretty op
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alright you stupid niggers show me your best scourge claw for my 5ex and not a penny more
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>>162693097
he's ES with no strategy to regain life other than just normal recharge

he shoulda invested heavily in regen
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>tfw every build you make either does no damage or dies to everything in one hit
What's wrong with me?
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What's the best all-in-one item filter?
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>>162691343
hmmm...

any good or should I redo it?
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>>162693485
>doesn't build their own filter from the ground up
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>>162693438
yeah you need a fuck ton of regen, even then it's scary. i wonder if he has any leech nodes :^)
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NICE SERVERS POETARDS??
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What PoE build lets me be Monsoon?
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>>162693772
Looks fine to me
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holy fuck ive never had this much fun in poe EVER

race against the server restarting
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>>162694119
absolutely based
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>>162687383
Pdps is garbage. Even full conversion builds wont use it.
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What do you guys think is the best tabula leveling build? Running firestorm with flame totem in lifesprig atm and it feels clunky. I'm shadow with points into spell/ele damage.
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>>162694119
good tempo anon
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>>162694693
currently using flamesurge
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>>162694693
Storm Prison crit Ice Nova/Vortex
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Does 7 chrom seem like a fair price for a 5 link Death's Harp?
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>>162694693
BV in a +2 skin of the loyal
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>>162694031
i dont play games for girls so dunno
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>Martyr's Crown
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>>162695046
stop being poor
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Breach HC.
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>>162695460
>Shav's Gambit
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Larry?
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>>162694031
shadow/assassin because he's an edgy faggot
dual wielding sais because it fits
acrobatics because muh dodge
bladefall because muh telekinesis
physical 2 light because muh electromagnetic fields
whirling blades + flicker strike for movement speed
cwdt + phase run because he's trained in the ninja arts
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>>162696013
reported
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Is blight good?

I just realized there's a whole mess of chaos damage skills. How do I chaos damage?

Do I put contagion on a totem and self cast essence drain? Wither totem? Blight Totem?
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>>162696361
>Is blight good?
No.

Do:
>Wither Totem
>Self cast Contagion + ED.
>Don't use Blight.
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>>162696725
What's wrong with blight?
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>>162696749
>What's wrong with blight?
Everything.

Not kidding.
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>>162689575
Bex will you be my e-gf
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>>162697167
The only things I can think of it being bad is that it's too weak for requiring you to channel.
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>>162697214
>Slow clear speed
>Small AoE
>Low single target damage
>Have to channel
>Doesn't Hit

Yeah it is basically like a culmination of every mechanic that makes a skill bad.

The fact that some people are using it is literally only due to the existence of Abyssal Cry.
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>>162697363
the only reason i could see using blight would be as a totem in a caustic arrow build, but even then wither does a way better job, well it has more functionality
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>>162697731
Blight totems are useless compared to Wither. Wither has a cast range, Blight is cast from its source. Unless you manage to position your totems right next to every single thing you want to hit, they are terrible.
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>>162696725
Self Cast?
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>ywn be this happy ever again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpl1fP_1fOw&
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fixing all the damage on this was fun!
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>>162698583
>proceeds to lose interest in the dog as she becomes a teenager
>on friday nights, the only person that dog ever sees anymore is the broken shell of a man the girl used to call father before moving across the country to live with her mom and her new boyfriend
>few more years pass
>the man holding the camera is the one that has taken care of the dog ever since it got bigger than 2 feet long and he now has to put her down because she's developed stomach cancer
>her food bowl sits next to the couch on friday nights still
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Is this a good Blade Flurry build to follow?
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>>162698865
You're a cynical jerk and I hate you
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>>162698997
shit
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1775250
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Can you even remember the last time you cried of happiness or at all?
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>>162699165
Yeah I cry to a good movie all the time
of happiness? hasn't happened in over a decade I think
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>>162699034
if you have 80ex. you could get the same results for a lot less currency
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>>162699165
I drank, masturbated, had hot wings. Went to a party. Got laid. And replied to a work contract that day.
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Why do people take MoM with CI?
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>>162699653
They don't, you stupid little shit.
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>>162699165
>At all
Today. I cry pretty often
>Of happiness
That's more like one or twice a month
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>memeneck drops

What is a good ranged meme?
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>>162700025
Are you a vagina?
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>>162700025
damn normie
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>>162699165
everytime i watch TDKR
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>>162700127
Nope, just a very sad, self-loathing person with a really great gf
>>162700207
Is crying a lot a normie thing?
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>>162700678
being happy is a normie thing
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>>162700678
How do I get a gf?
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>>162701251
Up down left right right left down up
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>>162701251
be yourself
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well this general died fast
guess all the casuals are back to playing whatever casual games they came from
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Uhh I went and took a shower ...
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did you remember to scrub your navel and ass crack
gotta keep those parts clean
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>>162701251
RMT
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>>162700825
Fair point, I guess since the question was about crying (and the answer involved a lot of crying) that's where my mind went
>>162701251
We met on here desu
We're both trannies, I referred her to my doctor, we kept talking and found we got along really well, then eventually met up IRL
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the logistics of a tranny couple fly way above my cis mind
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>>162701967
This you?
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>>162701967
you've got to be shitting me
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>>162702051
damn, I wanna Essence Drain that..
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>>162702084
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg

I don't know what you expected
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>>162701546
I normally post more on-topic but I'm frustrated about being too shit to make it out of hc normal so I'm taking a break
My builds are definitely too squishy, I'm thinking I might rush a bit of leech off the start this time since my DPS is usually pretty high once I get decent gear
>>162702037
If there's anything you'd like to ask, feel free
>>162702051
No.
>>162702084
No.
And yes, I got really, really lucky. I mean, we met on /lgbt/ so it's not super weird in that sense, but meeting someone you get along with that well who happens to live in traveling distance is pretty great
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do you want to be my support slut in bhc
i'll keep you safe and alive, but in exchange you gotta me my personal little aurabitch
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>>162702436
oh ok for a second there I thought you meant that you met literally here in /poeg/
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>>162702436
>And yes, I got really, really lucky. I mean, we met on /lgbt/ so it's not super weird in that sense, but meeting someone you get along with that well who happens to live in traveling distance is pretty great
Honestly jelly. Hope it works out in the long run.
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>>162702436
At least you are happy you fucking degenerate
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How time consuming is this game?
How RNG dependent is this game?
How fun is this game?

asking for a friend
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>>162702436
If I get a tranny gf, will it make me cry of happiness once in a while?
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>>162702997
It depends on your goals.
It depends on your playing time.
It depends on your perspective.

YOURE WELCOME
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>>162699165
yeah. some movie which i dont even remember, but i remember my voice breaking and being embarrassed in front of friends
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>>162699165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOAcRKZxjy4
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This is general isn't the gayest on one vg, but it's damn sure trying right now.

>half of the last 20 posts have been about some future suicide note authors

Do some maps or something and stop masturbating to your self-pity.

Talamoana, faggots.
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>>162702997
>How time consuming is this game?
As time consuming as you want it to be, really.

>How RNG dependent is this game?
I would say not very. Most things you get that you don't need can be sold, and anything that you need but can't RNG your way into can be traded for.

As far as the actual challenge is concerned, it is almost entirely skill-based. RNG comes in if you want to gamble with crafting through currency, but there are consistent crafting methods you can use too.

>How fun is this game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v38VMnO1Do
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Which support should I be using with Spark/Vaal Spark?
>Spell Echo
>Fork
>Chain
Would any of those be able to hit again the same monster before the regular one second mark?
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>>162702635
kek, that'd have been real unlikely, I'd have called bullshit under those circumstances too
>>162702776
Thanks, January 5th will be the one year anniversary of the day we met in person for the first time (and became gfs) so I think we're doing pretty well long-run wise
I hope you end up really happy. Well, that goes for all of you, really
>>162702812
I still hate myself, it's hard to get past that just because she loves me... but it is a big step up, happiness-wise and in general
>>162703062
That depends. I think it's not about the tranny part, and more about being with someone who gets me so well, who I feel so comfortable with and can interact with without feeling awkward
Well, that and my previous living situation was with my abusive parents, so the contrast is pretty intense.
It doesn't have to be a tranny, but it certainly can be. Just someone you feel really good and comfy being with who feels the same about you.
>>162702997
>How time consuming is this game?
Depends on your goals like the other anon said, also if you're on hardcore everything takes longer since you lose your character and equipped gear on death, obviously the worse/more reckless you are the more of a problem that will be.
>How RNG dependent is this game?
The combat's decently consistent that I've found, though obviously %-chance to not take damage mechanics (block, dodge and evasion) are more rng than damage mitigation and higher health. Loot grinding/upgrading is RNG as fuck but you can trade with other players so it's not as bad as it could be
>How fun is this game?
Results vary desu
It is free so if you're considering it there's little harm in trying
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>>162702997
How time consuming is this game?
it's completely up to you

>How fun is this game?
300 hours in(yea, newfag) and i don't even know anymore.

give it a try
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>>162699753
Um, yes they do.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1734847
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>>162703463
depression and PoE go hand in hand, buddy
>Do some maps or something
yeah that's going to be real helpful
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>>162703880
Just corrupt a strongbox and spare us your real life bullshit.
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>>162703080
>>162703521
>>162703718
>>162703838
thank you all for your replies, I'll give it a shot. Is the bulk of the community on the hardcore servers?
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>>162703848
>one guy who didn't check his tree = "people"
Shut the fuck up, retard
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>>162704050
>Is the bulk of the community on the hardcore servers?
Bulk of community is always in the temporary softcore league (Right now, it is Breach League) that changes every 3 months.

Hardcore temporary league is 2nd most.
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>>162704002
What did he mean by this?
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>>162704050
Streamers and masochists (read: degenerates like the trannyposter) are on HC. Regular well adjusted people with something elso to do in life than rage because they died to a latency spike or sever fart play on regular Breach.
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>>162703718
I hate trannies and fags in general but you are a pretty cool guy
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>>162704256
>Regular well adjusted people with something elso to do in life
So people who don't belong here? I bet you follow LNB guides, you normalfag piece of shit.
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>Fixed a bug where the Divination Stash Tab showed unobtainable Divination Cards.


batchnotes

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1793742
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>>162704070
Wow Anon, you sure seem upset
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>>162703463
Trap/futafags derail threads constantly. They are a vocal minority and disproportionately mentally ill retards fit for the virtual and real life gas chambers.

convinced its the same 2-3 posters that go around forcing their shit everywhere.
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>Hardcore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m9GICKG640
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>>162704903
>muh sjw tranny bogeyxirs
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Question for the traders:
When trading for currency using poe.trade it's better to change your currency into chaos first right?
Right now I can see that is I trade my alt shards directly for chroms I end up with 45, but if I trade for chaos first then chroms I end up with 58. Is this usual or are these prices skewed right now?
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>>162705193
I need things like that to keep me excited about playing, honestly. There's always that chance a jumbo jet engine will fall through your ceiling and smash you. If that weren't a chance, life would be pretty dull.

>>162705195
>being offtopic nonstop about the same dumb shit is sjw bogeyman
Just kill yourself already. No one cares.
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>>162701546
it's literally the slowest part of the day and if your aussie ass was in the general for more than a day you'd know that
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Anyone here buy the special currency tab bundle or are you waiting for a (((deal)))

>>162705195
Get your SRS regret and blow your brains out already. You are more annoying than the catfucker that had to derail threads about his mental illness constantly.
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>>162705193
yah porting in and out of the boss room bugs the fuck out of the bitchlords
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>>162705331
>There's always that chance a jumbo jet engine will fall through your ceiling and smash you

>implying my ceiling isn't jumbo jet proof
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i support trannyposter if only for the massive amount of butthurt s/he brings, better than the dull cat/discordposting desu
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>>162705497
Waiting for a deal, I want a currency tab and it's not in the bundle so there's not exactly another good option
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Is there some secret to finding where your prophecy has spawned? I've been running in and out of maps for a half hour now.
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>>162705642
nobody cares what you support retard

This is a hardcore gaming general for hardcore path of exile gamers like myself, we do NOT tolerate off-topic personal blog posting, as this is a hardcore gaming general reserved for hardcore gaming discussions. Now please stop encouraging the mentally ill homosexual and keep your conversations to hardcore gaming.

I WILL call the JANITOR on YOU.

(Free)
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>>162706006
>samefagging this obviously
We can see how many people posted and when, you know.
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>>162706074
What? you might want to look into that method of yours because that was my first post considering the attention whore. Obviously not my first post in this thread, it being a general and all.

retard

its fine to jack off to trannies, just do it on your own time
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>>162706006
>/hcpoeg/ - Hardcore Path of Exile General
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>>162705983
Some spawn in specific zones/tilesets even without saying so in their descriptions. Any that are specifically tied to a zone will give you a quest message and disappear from your prophecies when you proc them upon entering the instance. Others are just triggered upon completing an associated action and aren't tied to an instance.
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>>162707587
poeg was, is and always will be a HC general, shitcrow
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>timed Zana missions
but why
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>>162708535
not like it matters, i don't think i ever ran out of time. not even when looting casually
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is there a way to tell pack size / type of a breach before you open it? just started this league
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>>162708535
have you tried not being slow
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>>162708660
Unless it's a bad tileset like prison or garden and you lose all the time looking for that one narrow corridor that doesn't show up in the minimap.
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>>162708214
I play HC, but to assume everyone here does/has to is, frankly, stupid
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>>162687872
Give you a jew 4 it lol
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>>162708824
whatever you say turdbird
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>>162699165
Cried in happiness just over a month ago, crying in misery right now and almost every moment I'm alone for the last month
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>>162708801
anyone ?
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>>162709521
no
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>misscalculate resistances when buying new gear
>130% fire res
>either have to buy a rare for several exalts or divine the fuck out of several pieces of 30c gear

wont even be ele weakness capped if i do

fuck
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>>162709926
endurance charges.
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>>162710060
No room for a curse, and I aint pressing a warcry every few seconds when I already use 3 skills regularly
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>>162710162
jfc what kinda shit build are you using :|
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warlords mark or vulnerability lvl 1 cwdt if I have no endurance charge generation as a RT cyclone slayer?
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>>162710364
self cast flameblast + OoS for cursing/EE/Discord + shield charge for ebin speedclear meta

not that shit of a build t b h
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as if it isn't bad enough that the highest pdps roll on poe.trade right now is a paltry 240, it's also overpriced as fuck and listed like 20 times

god dammit breach
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Is lightning warp still usable or is flame dash better now? I want to buy an enchanted helmet with -30% LW duration but IDK if it's worth it.
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Is there any bow build that isn't complete trash?
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>>162710778
yeah. mine
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>>162710778
assassin+poison
LA ranger
EA
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what the fuck is this?
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>>162711447
it's a locked chest
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>>162705331
and as we see by the fact that there's just as many clips of bullshit deaths to bugs and server freezes here as there are videos of jumbo jets falling through peoples ceilings, these are very similarly likely occurrences!

Tbh i think hc players are mostly alt-o-holic shitlords or scared of the endgame grind
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I could just use jewels for that little bit of resist, why didnt you idiots think of this. Just saved myself like 2 ex.
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>>162711447
a western squat?
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this general has gone to shit
it's not even about the game now
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>>162711947
turdbird
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>>162709926
Fire res jewel
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>>162710761
lightning warp is great, i would pick that over WB or dash anyday . as long as i have the cast and move speed that is.
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:^)
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based
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So how accurate is the poeprice site? I'm sitting on so much garbage i want to get rid of.
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lucker dog
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>>162712370
Does the cold damage you take factor in your resists when using Taste of Hate?
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>>162712694
yes.
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>>162712370
>bor
>4k life

sh1tcr0w
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>>162712948
>being jealous
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Decided to try this on a whim. Never 6linked before. About 50 fusings.
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>>162713004
you'll die soon
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>>162713045
Its ok anon not everyone can be blessed by the rng gods, no need to be bitter.
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>>162713007
whoops forgot picture
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hate blog hours
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>>162713119
Congrats
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20% chance to avoid ignites on a vaal'ed tabula increase value at all?
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I've only played totems and other off-screen shit. What do I do against the canyon bosses as cucklone? Separate and kill the dog first?
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>>162713254
Die.
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>>162712438
accurate in the sense that it's exactly what people are asking for it, use some common sense when trying to figure out prices
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what level and stats should I be aiming for before trying uber lab as a slayer cycloner?
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>some guy paid 500 dollaridoos to make a fishing related unique item

*whale noises*
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Can you put on two of the same skill gem so you can connect more than two support gems to it?
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>>162713687
Fishing rods are useless, right?
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>>162713212
do you want to level together

i just got into a4 norm
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>>162713728
Yes, the assets have been datamined and there is nothing fishing related in there other than Krillson. It's just a meme perpetuated by GGG.
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is fighting a shitty necromancer near the start of the game an arpg staple?

tl2, d3, grim downs and poe all have it
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>>162714013
Yeah but it's optional in poe
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>>162713723
what?

there are 6links, which allow you to add 5 support gems

putting the same skil gem in a different piece of gear will count as a second instance of that skill with its own icon for on your skill bar. it will only get the support gems directly linked to it
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>>162714071
I thought that if a support gem wasn't directly linked, it wouldn't affect the skill. You're saying I can have one skill buffed by 5 support gems if they're all connected in a line?
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>>162714147
Yes. All gems connected by a string of links are linked together.

Protip: When you add a Support Gem to a skill, a small letter will be added to the top right corner of that skill's image in your skill bar in the UI. This is how you can tell whether or not a support gem is actually working with a skill.

Some gems you think might work with a skill actually don't, and if you are ever worried you can always use this to tell if the link works.
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children remember to smoke weed everyday
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>>162714272
I've been playing with a big handicap this whole time, then. Thanks mate.
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>>162713687
is that the actual item? i thought it was just a bugged version of hallowed ground.
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>164 quant 38 packsize corrupted + bloodlines t15
>terrace and mud geyser as returns

good shit chris
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>>162714969
>hourly "I'm entitled to map drops" post
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>>162714969
The only stat that increases your map drop tier is the atlas completion bonus. Quantity and pack size have nothing to do with what tier map you get.
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I just need Saffel and a Ruby flask right?
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>>162715793
you just need to not get hit
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I fought brutus for the first time now and oh boy was that hook a surprise, he almost killed me.

How does one figure out safely what does a boss do without reading up on it online?
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>>162716604
Please reread your question and realize how stupid/ridiculous it is.
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>>162716716
Is it because there is no way except getting informed beforehand?
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>get a reach from killing council
>turns out it's expensive as fuck
hope I can sell it fast
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>>162716604
just play the game
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>>162717026
running around the bosses lets you avoid 95% of their abilities
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>>162716604
>How does one figure out safely what does a boss do without reading up on it online?
Experience. You can play safely the first few minute and see their patterns. Running in wide circles around a boss is usually a decent way to not get hit by many boss attacks (doesn't work for all, but most). This isn't entirely effective though because a few bosses ramp up in difficulty and their patterns change as they are damaged, but circle strafing is usually a safe "Oh fuck I need to not die now" plan.

Mostly, make sure your flasks are full and your resists are high before running into a new boss fight. Have at least one flask that removes bleed and one that removes freezes to keep you safe from nasty surprises.
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>>162716604
oh, also, if you are willing to spend a few Alteration Orbs, try to roll some Seething or Bubbling life flasks. These mods give part of the flask's recovery instantly and can save your life better than most else for life-based characters.
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>>162717332
Thank you.
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>>162717443
>rolling seething or bubbling before hallowed flasks

What the fuck are you doing.
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>>162717480
>What the fuck are you doing.
:^) Giving shit advice to noobs duh :^)

Not like they're going to spend the currency any more efficiently.
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>>162716604
Protip for the Act 2 final boss:

The giant charge up hammer slam heals you! Make sure to get hit by it every time!
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>soul eater rares in breach
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>Consider
An aura that is also a breach
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Spectral throw raider y/n?
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>>162718001
y
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>>162718001
n
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>>162718001
m
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>>162718001
idk
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>>162718001
cyrtq?
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>doing things with a friend is way harder than doing it solo

explain this shit right now

I can easily solo shit but when I play with a friend it's like impossible
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>>162718804
Your friend is dead weight then. The game is much easier with a party than solo, excluding some specific boss fights.
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Is lighting coil that good for melee builds?
(Cyclone,EQ,Ice crash,etc..)
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>>162718804
>Monsters gain extra life for each additional party member after the first: 20% in Normal, 40% in Cruel, and 60% in Merciless.
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>starforge flicker raider
would it work? is it better than something else like Kitava's feast?
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>>162718947
>is 30% phys mitigation good for a build that has to go in the middle of packs

perhaps
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>>162719025
Wew , on my cyclone guy i have to sacrifice a ring slot (Voidhearth and a belly just to cap my Lighting for lighting coil)

That's why i was asking.
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rate my CI spark/vspark raider poeg
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>>162717865
>mfw it gets so fed that I can't tell if it's attacking or standing still anymore
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>>162718980
Best sword in the game, how would it not work? You'd have to be a serious shitter to not make it work.
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>Get an exalted orb, cospri's and shavs in the span of an hour

welp, i think i used up all of my luck
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>>162719220
You lose out on a lot of extra damage from added fire damage and hatred and the like. I'm not asking if it will clear dried lake, I'm asking if it will handle guardians and shaper well. And if it's better than another good unique weapon.
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>almost 2017
>still using a third party auction house
>still no official one
>>
small indie company
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GIve me a fun Low Life build NOW
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>>162710778
rain of arrows
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go low life blight totems
because i can't think of a bigger waste of shav's
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>>162719118
Hello dumb catposter, just letting you know that you shouldn't underestimate this node in particular, for an above average shield of 400+ ES (~20c on BHC), this represents 160+ ES pre-Infused Shield multiplier which is better than a 6% ES node for any base ES below 160/0.06 = 2667 ES.

Another way to look at it is that if your shield represents more than 6/40 = 15% of your total base ES, that node is going to be more efficient than a 6% ES one.

85+15*1.40 = (85+15)*1.06

The more you know!
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someone just vaal bricked a skyforth in global

*always* satisfying to watch.
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>>162720137
>shitcore

not a single fuck given

play a real league
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G'day ZiggyD here, I've just wanted to tell you guys I hate every single one of you
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>>162720261
>play a real league
I'll get to it once GGG stops running all their servers through Kuwait.
>>
Looking for a new mmorpg to play, are there lewds here? How's the erp scene?
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>>162720438
lol
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>>162720438
There's witch's feet but that's about it
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>>162720438
I've been told that the witch's feet are nice if you're into that kind of stuff.
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>>162720438
statues with nice booties and cameltoes
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>>162720681
and feet
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>>162720770
yfw you'll never see my feet
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>>162720834
>tfw Scion wears shoes
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I am about to to Poorjoys BHC @ lv88

10862dmg ed
13k es
tricurse enfeeble vuln
stun immunity
Delirium weapon
>>
How does one make a ranger melee build viable?

They feel incredibly squishy and dont really have any reliable source of defence.
>>
>http://poeurl.com/VGC
Planning a raider flicker for a friend. Definitely going to be 2hander, he wants to use Starforge but I think Kitava's Feast or Atziri's Disfavor are probably better in the long run so I don't want to have him path to any sword specific nodes.
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>>162721262
CI flurry
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>>162721105
show off
>>
Why do all the girls I meet in PoE have dicks?
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>>162722062
online girl larp is the latest fad among adolescents
>>
I received lightning arrow. If I give it a supporting multiple shot gem will bunched up enemies receive the aoe damage from other nearby lightning arrow, not just the one hitting them?
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Dried lake or tier 1 maps?
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>>162722215

Yes. That's the whole point of it.
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>>162721105
>10862dmg ed
lol that's it?
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>>162722268
That's real fucking neato.
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>>162722326
Bitch please.
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>>162719881
ok
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>ED cucks
lmao bunch of beta faggots
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>>162722393
>No Poison
lol scrub
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What am I looking for in a blade vortex dagger? Increased cast speed, physical damage %, spell damage %?
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>>162722438
>What is Decay
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>>162722461
>Doesn't use both
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>>162722425
>What's wrong with ED?
>>
>>162722457

daggers dont come with cast speed, phys damage % on weapons only local and wont affect the spell

you want spell damage, global crit stats and added elemental damage to spells
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>>162722513
pros: it's allright
cons: you have to play ED
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>>162722393
>>162722326
How?
>>
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAJuNCC7tgxmOAF7Tfn11_rrveu4OjDYNjYd2459KfVuvTioj049go4oj9k2SjX0wfFFHPs-95o2_BbXo1iLqwzoqOCSLD6sWv3X9hG_UQrVI62MRLzY9napsjGKsVYWlyyaVYeJVS0z_QzHawXTtBS1674TvYuy2

>Raider
>1hand+ shield
>iron reflexes
>vaal pact

what could one do with this that is NOT bladeflurry?
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>>162720287
rude
i want all of my qbits back
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>>162722682
i love ED for what it is. pretty solid skill but it seems like one of the worst skills for breach
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>>162722438
Poison as a link is fucking awful though. Use Consuming Dark or some other method of global poisoning.
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>>162722904
>but it seems like one of the worst skills for breach
are you retarded?

>cast one contagion
>cast one ED
>next 5 waves of breach mobs just die+massive leech

in fact, ED is one of not the best spells for breaches
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>>162722904
it's really good for breach, except when an allies cannot die rare spawns, then you wished you had rolled blade vortex or flameblast instead
>>
Hello, fellow /poe(g)sers/, noob here.
When should I go for my first ascendancy traits? When I outlvl the thing with whole ACT? Am scorching ray templar.

And what's the point of chaos dmg? Is it mostly pvp only and given to players just for variety reasons? Cuz every single npc has chaos dmg reduction mods.
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>>162723014
>allies can not die
>playing ED without 100% pierce
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>>162723096
hasted onslaught skittering spider
good luck hitting that with your ED, but maybe you have superhuman aim
>>
Can someone help me with this fucking hall of the grandmasters?

I literally can't damage half these enemies as a summoner

what's the fucking point of this map at all
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>>162710761
Set it to cast on melee kill :^)
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>>162722986
>>162723014
my thoughts on it is that it would be too slow, i've only run burst damage builds this league and the faster the better. i haven't played ED in 2 leagues so i might roll ED next character.
any videos that show ED in action for a breach?
>>
take make money from whales
>>
>>162723247
>what's the fucking point of this map at all
to test your pvp builds xD
>>
cyclone slayer with hezmana's

hatred (in essence worm)+purity of ice+warlords

should work, right?
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>>162723392
>purity of ice+warlords
lol
>>
>>162723456
leech, endurance charges and the purity was just an idea because i have ToH lying around
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>>162723371
>I'm immune to chaos
>chaos ranger sits inside chaos cloud shooting my srs if I summon it
>srs dies before it can hit enemy
>enemy can't hit me because chaos does nothing
>that's the end of it


>next fight is me vs some tank guy who just kills my summons in 1 hit and I can't even bring him below 100% HP
>just goes on forever until I end up dying because I sit there AFK for too long

What a fucking poorly designed map whoever made it deserve to be shot or something
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>>162723515
keep crying about it bitch nigga
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>>162723515
>srs
kys
>>
>>162723371
easy as fuck farm with a BV trapper, made so much currency farming the disfavor cards.
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Jesus.
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>>162723515
Respect into beacon of ruin and minion instability
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Post lucky drops from breach league.
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>>162723920
Shut the fuck up, shitcrow
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looks like someone ripped to cruel dom again :D
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If anybody starts something new try out dominating blow for this league particularly.
Get a vaal skellington gem,use it after you open breach then IT'S PARTY TIME.
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>>162723920
i found 3 ex so far, found a regalia on the ground 1 alch later had a 2ex chest piece, aside from that pretty standard affair 99% garbage 1% GG lootz
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>europeans start waking up
>world chat immediately devolves into overt autism and meme spam

really makes you think
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>>162724923
Its 14:00 hours in EU you dumb nigger
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>>162724923
>americans prime time
>harambe and trump funny maymays xD

really makes your neurons rub together
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>>162723843
Divine it
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>>162724069
Who?
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>>162690816
hmmm

made me think
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>>162724923
>devolves

from what? global 1
is always cancer
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I just got my second doctor card drop this league

should i list them to sell? And what should i list it for
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>>162725947
if only there was a website where you could see that....
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>buy abberath's for 1.5 ex

>resell it for 3 ex

my nose grew 3 sizes that day
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>>162726018

i seriously doubt anyone would be willing and able to pay 8-9 exalts for a single divination card
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>>162723920
Feels Good Man
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>>162726080
i sold one for 10ex in Essence
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havent played in 2 leagues.

Whats the current state on block? Back when i played it was considered trash after they nerfed incinerate blocktanks into the ground
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>>162726039

how do i work my way up to 1 exalt sempai. i have 1 divine ~25 chaos

how do i flip my way to the top
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>>162726115

holy fuck how do people fucking afford to pay for that
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>>162726142
just play the game
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>>162726142
be lucky and get a valueable item (15c-1ex) drop, then go from there

gotta spend money to make money
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>>162726121
generally too inefficient given the investment you need to reach max block, there are 2 exceptions however:

gladiator: reaches max block/spellblock easily forces you to go melee basically, really good survivability but 1h melee is crappy damage unless you have really good gear, semi-decent choice now that BF is a thing

necro: can reach near max block/spellblock with bone offering, but need to maintain the buffs which can be annoying

pathfinder used to be a 3rd option in 2.4 but they nerfed both her flask sustain and rumi's so now it's kinda meh

scion as a wild card if you like shit builds with no damage
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>>162726292
i see...so whats the new top-tier form of defense outside of having huge amounts of ES?
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despise everything about shitcore
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>>162726376
leech + damage
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>>162726376
the only 3 good defenses right now are:

good avoidance + dual curse
max block + sustain (aegis or that new life on block shield)
CI + VP leech
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>>162726121
Block is fucking shit there are too many mods that give -% block chance

one of them is minus 40% chance to block

I dont know what the fuck were they thinking

IMagine if there was a mod -40% dodge chance
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>>162726737
>one of them is minus 40% chance to block
no, it's actually 40% less, not -40% flat
75*0.6 = 45 block, not 75-40 = 35 block
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got a scourge from one of my chimeras
what /fun/ builds can i play with it
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do buttboobs actually idolize streamers like ziz? he's utter trash
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What's a shitcrow?
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>>162726834
BF FA CWC ADDED CHAOS POISON SRS Necromancer
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>>162726826
its still the same dude. All the avoid damage mechanics are only good if you have 65%+

someone who got to block cap wil not have a ton of armor or evasion and on top of that its pretty common to find armor reduced by x% when less block pops
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>>162726925
>he's trash
>has multiple lvl 100 HC chars

post your profile man lets see how good you are
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>>162727079
>on top of that its pretty common to find armor reduced by x% when less block pops
it's actually the same mod, less armour and less block
and yeah it shits all over block builds, but every build has a black sheep map mod, you just use a chaos and move on
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>>162727083
he's trash and you're a trash enabler
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>>162727151
nice profile link
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>>162726925
things ziz have done you haven't:

won multiple rank 1 demis
reached level 100 in hc
killed shaper in hc
dyed his hair blue

you're nothing but a steaming pile of dogshit compared to him my man
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>>162726995
it's like saying "darn it!" after hitting your toe against a furniture etc
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>>162726097
>he doesn't have a 6l shavs 2weeks in
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>>162727182
>>162727259

i have demis from before ziz even started playing

i can't believe there are literal shitcrows itt who apologize for the worst player in the game
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>>162727332
nice link
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lol @ catshitter thinking he's a good player because he won some trash consolation demi 3 years ago

back to your spark raider, you fucking imbecile
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first of all it's only been 2 years, 8 months and 18 days since i won my're demi
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>>162727259
he would be a lot better if he wasn't so addicted to the game/streaming. several 24+ hour streams in the last week,he needs to slow down and rest , like his rip to a reflect map, total waste of time.
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>>162699165
>crying
>of happiness
That would require something good actually happening.
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How does the Adds 1 to 30 Fire damage to attacks work?
I don't understand is 9 to 15 better than 1 to 30 for example?
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>>162727541
He's trying to stream for a living so he doesn't care about losing some virtual items because he's tired.
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>>162727541
>Dies
>Looses everything
>Gets back and almost makes all his items in a single day

I mean,we all have works or studys here,but his passion or addiction to the game is impressive.

When i died thanks to the servers fucking up on EU i got mad and just created another character in shitcore breach rather than started over again.
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i watched ziz for 10 minutes and he logged three times
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>Breach with beyond mod in an unided rare map

At last I see
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>>162727942
I don't see why GGG allows this...
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>>162728031
ziz is just shit

it's embarrassing
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>>162727541
He's a literal fucking retard. He chugs down energy drinks and soda like water and eats once a day and it's always shitty takeout. He went to a doctor complaining about stomach pains, diarrhea etc. and naturally the doctors couldn't find anything actually wrong with him and diagnosed him 'IBS'. No fucking shit are his bowels irritated. Then he complains about sleeping problems when he stays up for 24 hours playing a video game every time he's awake. He's in his 20s with zero physical activity ever. This is all fine if you've accepted that lifestyle, but it seems to completely elude him why he has health issues.
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>>162727942
tfw can't play hardcore due to shit net and faggots with good net can get away with this
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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just picked up a 247 pdps scourge for 4.3 ex
thank you live notifications
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Any cheap Marauder builds that don't involve totems?
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>>162727674
Pls can someone help me
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>MERCILLES BREACH HARDCORE ONLY | NO LOGOUT (if dying)
>tfw kungen is the only true HC player
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>>162728427
They literally teach you averages in the elementary school. Please pay attention tomorrow.
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>>162728235
>FЯEE
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>>162728235
what build are you going to play gamer
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>>162728657
I'm watching you
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>>162728609
Gosh you didnt have to be so rude to me..
Why is it adds 4 to 10 instead of just saying it adds 7 ?
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>>162723843
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>>162728672
ci lame flurry of course
annoyingly expensive but fun, kind of reminds me of spectral throw but it wrecks bosses too not just packs
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stop ddosing the fucking poe website I have builds to copy
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>>162728790
Because it adds 4 to 10 and not 7. Can you honestly just pay more attention in school. I don't want to read anything this stupid ever again.
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>>162728204
Hey, he atleast laid off energy drinks and only drinks coke now.

He's pretty much just an average idiot.
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>>162729009
Tonight? I guarantee he was drinking energy drinks earlier this league.
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>>162729107
Oh, he started again? I only watched him a bit during essence and at that time he stopped drinking them.
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>>162728951
Fucking retard
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>>162729107
What's wrong with energy drinks?
Isn't coffe overall worse?
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>>162729285
He's right though. Go back to school, I don't want to see you end up at minimum wage because you can't do elementary level math.
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>>162729406
coffee is like weed
energy drinks are like heroin
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>>162713687
No, he's an eternal supporter, he paid $1500 for an item that does nothing.
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>>162729406
If you enjoy your cup of coffee with a pound of sugar it's about the same.
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whats going on, gamers? why is an unexpected database error occurring?
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CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
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>>162729659
I always have a coffe with milk and sugar for breakfast.

Sometimes i eat an apple on the way to classes.
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162730312
>muh nostalgia
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You gotta help me guys. I have a serious problem. I NEED speed, attack speed that is. I don't care what's it gonna cost or how bad will the build suck, but I MUST be fast.
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>>162730701
calm down there sanic, stack attack speed.
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>>162730312
PoE feels like a Diablo mod I don't know wtf is this faggozoid on about.
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>>162730701
Forgot to say, Ill be playing ranger, and its gotta be a bow build.
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>>162719025
It's 22.5% mitigation
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>>162730909
Quill rain, something something.
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>>162730931
EA quill rain hits like 500 times a second
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So builds with WoE are still fun ?
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>open chest
>exalted orb
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>>162731149
>open breach
>3 exalted orbs
OpieOP
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why the fuck are there so many small chests that spawn (armor stands, chests, etc)? they drop fuck all and just clutter the screen.
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What a shit game
>dude farm for two days for one item that makes your build viable lmao

fun as fuck
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>>162731231
You might be playing the wrong genre then.
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>>162731363
Diablo was brainless and so was Sacred.
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Now that essences are in the game, do you think we'll see an end to chaos orbs being the default currency? I mean, why would you even ever use a chaos orb when essences exist? At this point a scouring has more practical value than a chaos.
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>>162731602
You can't pay zana in scours.
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>>162731406
,,,period? And we have to be blind or retarded to not see that?
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>>162731669
Considering you play PoE you might be both.
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>>162731791
you don't wanna see my heavy arnored ranger WRC then?
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>>162731958
>using ranged characters in diablo clones
>ever
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>>162731791
>>162731669

I don't understand why people can't just play along with retards. It's all anonymous who gives a shit. Just say "yeah I'm a blind retard, and mad as fuck." Who gives a fuck about 'validating' anyone's time on 4chan. Online games too. Little kids call you cyka on Dota. Just reply "yeah my mother too." You think there will ever be anyone referring to that situation ever again?
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the build is coming to fruition lads
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>>162732129
I don't know what the fuck are you on about but I know one thing for sure - PoE more like Piece of Shit.
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>7k life
>melee
>still can't tank hits

I didn't think melee life builds were this big of a meme.
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>>162732428
just get more life
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>>162732428
Your fault for playing a garbage meme game.
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>>162732428
>get one shot and can't tank worth a fuck
>get stunned constantly with high EHP
pick one, or both is skyforth
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>>162732326
I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about.

Yeah, PoE is a shit game and I'm a retard for playing it.
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What is the tankiest build that still lets me deal decent damage?
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>>162732714
wow ebin ur so above it u know how to deal with it all haha damn ur an adult af
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>>162732137
i feel you broseph , my super secret build is almost complete, just need a to get my chest 6 linked
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I'm bored of cucklone, give me a build that isn't melee or """"melee""""
no lameblast or ed pls
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0-4 fap, shower and go outside to get wasted
5-9 play poe lol
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>>162733030
good thing u ain't tryhard, I hate them

so wanna see my wrc ranger or not?
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>>162733598
no thanks bud
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the only good thread reddit has ever produced.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5hzupc/25_destroyer_of_worlds_25_cospris_elementalist/

link to shit build
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1792472

lmao
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>>162733476
Depends on how much money you have.
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>>162688050
Tedious as shit and chaos aren't worth shit this league

Id all rares, sell the shit ones for alt shards, craft jewels from alts
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>>162733889
also no bow builds and no caster builds..no summoners too
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>>162734000
all rares on decent bases, i mean
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>have to do the ascendancy crap 3 times not just once at merciless

REEEEE I WANT MY FREE DAMAGE
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>>162688050
not worth the time , just grind fast, pick up good bases, id , if it's shit toss it on the ground and keep moving.
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>Vaal Pact: Leech applies instantly. You have no regeneration.
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>>162734513
>degen. mod can be actually pretty annoying

the more you know...
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>>162732137
>theorize a build in poeplanner
>becomes more fucked up with every try
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Tfw wanted to do a chieftan with the new xoph uniques but mathil already made one. Im not as special of a snowflake as i thought.
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>>162735140
same
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>>162734039
>those chisels
Hows Standard?
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Should I go for the elemental damage and AoE nodes in the Templar area for a slayer cyclone+ngamahu's flame build?
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>>162735571
how is being low on chisels a sign of playing on standard?
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should I throw an exalt or two on either of these
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>>162734039
>no melee or "melee"
>no caster
>no summoner
>no bow
What the fuck do you want retard?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5ibapl/david_brevik_talks_poe_on_his_wifes_world_of/

>Discussions he has had with GGG about trading and his thoughts on some hot topic issues like an Auction House, why trade is the best it can possibly be right now in PoE without introducing some form of item binding to the game.

Oh yeah, the diablo 2 savior is coming to rescue.
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this is worth at least 1c in breach right
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>>162736592
look retard, if I wanted to read reddit news, I'd go on reddit, alright? stop posting garbage here that is not highlight of someone dying
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How would you guys rank the breach lords as far as difficulty goes?

Also, is Atziri's promise a decent substitute for taste of hate until I can get one?
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>>162736685
10-20c depending on what you can craft on it
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>>162736685
craft the highest life tier and sell it for 25c
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What's the best way to deal with rares at end game? Chaos recipe or ID them hoping to get something good? Seems like rings are always at a shortage for me.
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>>162736745
Esh - 5
Xoph - 3
Tul - 8
Uul-Netol - 5

still need 30 more chayula frags

1-10
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>>162736919
Tul is a fucking asshole, especially if your build doesn't leech

>lel Vortex over the entire arena, fuck you
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>>162736376
not really worth it, you could sell them as is for more than an exalt would add.
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>>162736384
surprise me
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>>162737156
partyboard dweller flipping newbs for 5c/day robin
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>>162736918
I'm like 99% sure that breach rings count towards the ID'd recipe, you shouldn't have any shortage at all
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Anyone got a rough idea on how much normal atziri's spear toss does? Im confident in dodging everything else but that shit comes out fast as fuck.
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>>162734039
>No melee
>No AoE melee
>No bows
>No casters
>No summoners

Ice trap saboteur. Or is that too close to being a caster?
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>>162737942


ITT: My bet is that it'll keep 1-shooting u, if it'll pass eva, dodge and your kiting

tldr worthless bullshit:
it's phys afaik, and you sound pretty evish to me, so I guess you skipped mittigation part of def. in general.
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>>162712370
Your loot filter sucks ass.
Why would you reduce the size of Chaos Orbs
Why are rare jewels so small
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>>162738690
Im not using eva or dodge and I have 90% phys reduc with flasks, was just curious roughly how hard it hits.
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>>162737098
But what if I hit hybrid or % it can potentially be 10ex plus for either. Shut, a good resist roll would already add more than an ex to the price. I'm using them and an extra resist roll would be nice. I guess it will end up being a big gamble either way
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>>162738914
holy fuck, from now on i ask questions, u answer

u use all these fortify, shitload of end. charges, basalt etc too? what's ur hp pool?
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Does anyone know if Toxic delivery poison multiplier works on totems linked with poison?
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>>162739401
yep use all those, only got 4k hp though which is why im asking. Not sure why youre acting like I wanted a guide on atziri or something, was just curious how much the spear did.
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Perfect Form
Kintsugi
Lightning Coil
or Belly of the Beast

For an evasion based raider?
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>>162740002
cospris will
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>>162740130
Yeah no I can't afford that
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Stopped little before ascendancy and now I'm thinking of getting back into poe. What am in for? Anything major I should know about?
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>>162739921
low, but with this kind of mitigation should (barely?) be enough. Long time ago when I knew whats up a little and eva didn't need additional mitigation, it was pretty ezz to tank 1 spear. It was flameblast that was scary the most.
I guess you took crit in the knee, but don't rely on that.
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is CI still better than life?
or do you get stunned all the time?

i'm at a point where the next tier of items costs more than 1-3c, and still haven't decided whether to stay life or go CI
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>>162741038
CI is better and you will get stunned often if you don't take countermeasures against it.
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>>162741435
at total 1c for this one, unless it got more expensive since essence
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>>162713809
are you from hima
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>>162729726
You ever tried drinking it black? I thought I hated black coffee until I realized I just wasn't making the coffee strong enough
>>
>log out in act 2
>log back in
>a subtle chicken bok in the distant
i love this game
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say I have a blasphemy/vulnerability setup, would inc aoe work if linked with both?

also, does a vulnerability enchant on a helmet synergize with witchfire brew?
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What would get me the best result with 200 points?
3 premium tab + a currency tab?
Currency tabs seems to be the only thing that worths it over div and essense.
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>>162742435
it will, good thing if u dont mind bigger mana reservation multiplier
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>>162742493
get the currency tab 100%

other than that get 1 premium tab so you can sell stuff

then it really depens you dont need more premiums than that

if you just need space buy normals
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>prize manipulation
So since poe.trade is effectively just an action house since nobody wants to ever haggle at all.
Why is this still a thing?
And why can't poe.trade assign mods that enforce buyout prices?

GGG is such a shit company, I'd rather have blizzard in change.
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So I just picked up a death and taxes and haha wow I wasted 12C
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>>162743958
Hot and sweaty player to player interaction, that's why.
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>>162742493
who cares. Just buy whatever. Are you really this poor?
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Where is that guy that was doing cyclone eith ngamahu's flame? I could use some tips since I clearly I can't make my own builds.

http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAPMUDwB3uR0V7MqQvYGZK4TZR369NmVNvqeplIdqeHqpJ5BshO_awXTtBS1670CgXhMhVSz7iiInINw9B3XApuSxOd3Tb0a3QzFhIa5Q_msTyWWne3TvTmFSk6iKs1dUhmAirzhTdudM_04qI9NvJ5pqxILpRorwOlIOPBRx-Ou8nxiR2XyCB_JB0iGezfKcbpf3vmRSTjIX4Sb4E0zBo-JhMHdZ_uoYdqzPfvcycqmsqlnzGjiQVScvOtgyiXflgpuaO5_f73w8BcBm7SBX4tlhhVLrCTkOCZaXeeRRrY3z3WhlpTUMcDu29WGygIa0hacnnwAAAAAA
http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAPEUDwB2uR0V7MqQvYGZK4TZR369NmVNvqeplIdqeHqpJ5BshO_awXTtBS1670CgXhMhVSz7iiInINw9B3XApuSxOd3Tb0a3QzFhIa5Q_msTyWWne3TvTmFSk6iKs1dUhmDzb0nVCbsirzhTdudM_04qI9NvJ5pqxILpRorwAdx346luwBp4DbXyNZLYvf6PTeOmVzGebzv-Crc-g8w8Lcaug18LYa9saPLwH6IABLPAZjwFn9-aO4Kb73ztIFfid-Uyif0wagRqpYiPGuQ62CcvkFU6UryfGJH8SxRNOuHyRaU1DHA7tvVhsoCGtIWnJ58AAAAAAA==
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I'm following an outdated flame totem build. Anyone have a better setup or suggestion? I'm lvl 60 btw, is it salvageable? I work a lot and don't have time to start a fresh character.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1050038
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i miss dead poeg
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>>162743958
Auction house doesn't solve price manipulation
Buyout/Exact price listings exist for a reason and if you aren't haggling/prepared to pay the listed price then that's on you
Enforcing max minimum sell prices isn't wanted or viable in such a large, preexisting free trade market
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>>162744142
Looks fine
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>>162741667
>unless it got more expensive since essence
Only 18 times more expensive
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Im going nuts

Cant even 5 link my armor after using all my fuses

Until i do i cant swap to CI so have 15 unspent passive points
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I really need to die
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What's the best tier of map for farming? What do you guys usually sell, uniques and good base alched rares? Is chaos recipe worth it?
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>>162744483
>doesn't solve prize manipulation
Elaborate. If people list items dirt cheap and nobody is buying them then the value of the item is next to nothing.
If people list items dirt cheap and people are buying them the prize manipulation doesn't work because you're just screwing yourself.
>if you aren't haggling
Figuratively nobody wants to haggle. If you offer anything but buyout you get a "no". And often a /ignore right after.

The problem is the buyout/exact price system is being used to make items appear less valuable than they are by having the first 10-20 items be priced well below what people are buying and selling them for.

If you think price manipulation is someone buying up all the supply and having a monopoly then that's just wrong. And it's incredibly niche, happens in both systems and is only easier to do on poe.trade.

Prejucated on the reasons I mentioned for why the direct interactions don't matter at all, there's no reason not to have an action house other than the fact that GGG would be implementing something that makes some of the advantages of premium stashtabs superflous, alternatively they lock out people who don't have them from the AH and the game is more pay to trade than ever.
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>>162744142
i got an uber carry from a guy doing cyclone with that new axe

i thought it was pretty cool how a 5c axe lets you do that i might even try it for my next build
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>>162744759
wat

this market is retarded beyond my retardation
seems that going life in breach had at least remotely some sense
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>>162745382
They're going up in price, people are starting to catch on.
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>>162744570
The first or the second?
Leaning towards the first.
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I would like a player merchant/vendor system you could place in hideout

List items for sale on it, and like stash tab it gets listed on Poetrade

Then allow people to visit someones hideout with /hideout (username)

No need to wait for them to be online or out of map or whatever

Only people who would get mad are price manipulators who would get filtered out when people only search for items listed on vendor
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>>162744412
You could try flameblast + spell totem.
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>>162745986
The first one.
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Is firestorm still the fastest way to level for caster?
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>>162745164
You're right on a lot of points, I hadn't thought about the people listing items for a low price and not responding. I know you used to be able to message the guy who runs poe.trade and get those kinds of people blacklisted, but that was a while ago so the site might be too big now.

I don't really like the idea of an auction house though. Not unless GGG can find a way to prevent bots from buying anything considered a deal within seconds of it being listed. That was a pretty large problem with the one in D3.
If they made it so the AH only worked with premium tabs then I think a website like poe.trade would still have a purpose, albeit a diminished one. Maybe less so if it could also catalog the AH through some kind of API, which if it uses stash tabs to operate, is probably already in use today.
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took me like 9days to do 36/40 this time around, also cashed out most of my gear on d2jsp for 35k fg. now there is nothing else to do and the ladder will go on for another 3months.

fuck this life, poe needs more real endgame stuff and shittier loot drops. nowadays everyone can afford everything within days of a league.
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>>162744142
What's the plan to convert the remainder of the damage to fire?
Or are you just gonna let 50% of your damage not be buffed by your ele? Remember that the WED gem is super powerful and %increased ele damage exists on every piece of jewelry and the belt. And there's %fire damage to get.

Depends on how far you want to go of course but I'd consider reinvestering some of the points from the splitting strikes cluster, reverly (mana node, just put a point into the duelist mana leech you have buddy), hematophagy (5% max life per second to max life leech rate is good but it's rarely a difference maker), the awkward pathing to born to fight (too expensive), get RT as you're not doing crit, ignore lust for carnage (completely useless for you), get a little bit more firepen from celestial judgement. Also got the endurance charges. Skip those if you don't have a way to generate.
www.poeurl.com/VKt
Here's the tree.
I spent one point too much, hope that's fine.
My best bet for a node to cut would be the three nodes where executioner is (they're not bad but not very good), or the live and elemental resistances node. but that's cutting into your already very low 151% max life. I'm assuming you're softcore here, or you won't reach 90.
I'd probably run a belly of the beast.

I'm not sure what damage is gonna be like but maybe respecc some of those damage nodes when you're at that level. Not sure what kind of damage that axe does.

I always feel I'm lacking in life for some reason. Get life on all the jewels.
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>>162746812
i slow myself down and rip chars on purpose so i don't get bored within a week
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>>162732428
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/AlkaizerX/characters
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>>162746825
By the way I modified the first.
Didn't look at the second.
Also never leave the attackspeed node empty as duelist. 6% is very high value for 1 point.
Also consider taking the 3% attack speed point over the 12% physical damage point. As movement speed via leap slam is always nice and given how much focus you put on getting two hander phys damage it's probably way more efficient DPS, for bosses at least.
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>>162746325
>Not unless GGG can find a way to prevent bots from buying anything considered a deal within seconds of it being listed. That was a pretty large problem with the one in D3.
Well anon I have bots that do just that.
I've looked at their success rate and it's quite high. Most people don't reply with complex messages.

It's the only way I can truly enjoy the game. It feels scummy to amass currency that way but since there's no good legitimate way to trade why bother?
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>>162746825
>>162747032
p.s. since it's a chance on hit i'd probably go for berserking (3-3-12% attack speed close to the scion life heptahedron) too. An average of 6% attack speed again, very efficient.
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>>162746315
yes
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>>162746112
The skill tree for that looks very different. Can I transition from the build I posted?
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>>162713687
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1477864/page/58#p13985420
Has fishing meme gone too far? $1500 (fifteen hundred dollars) on a worthless paperweight. Thanks GGG.
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With an AH your basically empowering flippers (and flipping bots) at the expense of market manipulators, its a wash imo
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>>162747702
.t market manipulator.
>>162747146
.t flipper bot


Fixed pricing is the only right way.
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>>162747702

Make items brought on AH bound like quest items, maybe for a week
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>>162746825
>>162747243
Noted, hadn't actually thought of going all elemental. The messier part was the Duelist area anyway.

Thanks
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>>162746825
Changed my mind on the hematophagy node.
It's 8% max leech rate per second, and you get 20% damage. So that's pretty damn good. Would probably still put those points into more life if possible.
>>162748362
No problem. Building the tree is almost the most fun part of the game.
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>>162747486
It won't be the most optimized build but it should be fine because the basic idea of the build you're following is using a totem that does fire damage. So either spell totem + flameblast or maybe even firestorm might be better because you have no cast speed.

I made two trees for you:

poeurl.com/VKR Is more offensive with the witch aoe nodes and some crit

poeurl.com/VKT Is more defensive with whispers of doom which allows you to run blasphemy + temporal chains and enfeeble which allows to just facetank almost everything.
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Is there any point in leveling spell totem if you're using it with wither? It just gains more dmg as you level it, at least from what I can see, and wither doesn't do dmg anyway.
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>>162748818
It gains life
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how much % of life should i have for a full life + armor + evasion build on my tree in breach league?
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>>162749387
To survive breach mobs? Probably 200%+
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>>162747486
>>162748703
Oh yeah, I forgot the change the ascendency. Instead of Hinekora, Death's Fury get Tukohama, War's Herald.
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>Switch from windowed to full screen and vice versa, game crashes
>Open lightning breach, FPS goes to 0
>Servers going down on a daily base
>Every fucking build plays the same, what matters is how fucking fast and hard you hit
>But it's ok, at least we have NEW MTXâ„¢ BOYS!
Fuck this shitty game
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>>162744940
Buy a 5l retard, it's just going to be a place holder anyway
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>>162745109
Depends on level, either fast clearing t7-10 or well rolled red maps.
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>>162745109
You either run high level reds with a full atlas or set up your atlas to maximize shaped maps, theres guides for how to do it
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What build should I play?
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>>162751627
the build were you get banned freak
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What's a decent cold spell that i can trigger with cospris malice from far away?

I swear to god every good cold spell has "centered around the caster" somewhere in its dumb text.
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>>162743958
An AH as classically depicted would take the market out of the hands of the price manipulators and hand it over, bow tied, to a legion of tradebots who would be free to dictate all prices forever.

Some clunkiness is intentionally built into the system and this needs to be maintained, though the current solution is rapidly becoming unsustainable and a new plan needs to be found.
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>>162751627
ele hit
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So I'm playing a Blade Flurry Shadow and I'm doing fuckall damage at level 50. I'm dual-wielding Golden Kris daggers and only getting 650 dps.
What am I doing wrong?
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>>162749808
Thanks! I will try it out when I get home. Can I give you a chaos for your trouble? My character name is SpicySpires
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>>162753009
Playing a meta without understanding the meta

Don't be a sheep
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>>162753009
are the daggers white?
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>>162753825
No, they're rares.
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How the fuck do you make currency? I thought uber lab was supposed to be profitable but I'm barely even sustaining the cost.
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>>162753009
if you don't have 100%+ inc phys/ +flat phys then your daggers are shit
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>>162752035
COLD SNAP
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>reinstall
>playing ED
>purple aids is kinda fun
>get to act 3

And now I remember whey I quit this game. Time to uninstall again.
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>>162754285
nobody cares, faggot
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>>162754081
sell uber runs
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I really, really hope reddit whines their way into a full blown AH, I would love to sell a bunch of flipperbots on d2jsp and ownedcore
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do people dual wield decay+consumingdark for ed or what
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>>162755078
Isn't that like just a couple of chaos a run? Sounds awkward to have to guide someone through too, if they just could stay at the start maybe.
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>>162754081
Are you doing single key runs or what?
You usually exceed the cost just in raw currency. Do good days.

I just clear fast. I've made maybe 200c thus far and I only have a level 92 character. Haven't played that much.
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>>162755595
Are you playing in shitcore or just fucking retarded?
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>>162755602
On HC its still like 8c with a free offering idk what it is SC, if they die its their own damn fault your there to kill izzy for them not hold their hand through traps
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after a metric ton of farming i have at last got my double scourge and voidheart
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>>162748250
This needs to be implemented, but maybe 24-48 hours instead.
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>>162755846
thanks
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>>162755819
2-3 keys today, not sure how/if it changes with the layout, doing pretty quick runs. Maybe I got unlucky.

>>162755852
I play SC so I'd imagine the price is not that high, but I haven't checked to be honest.
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>>162755924
Farming your way to that? What did you do?
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>bound items
>AH
>fixed pricing

fuck off
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>>162755924
awoo
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>>162756091
I never bother with less than 4-5 key runs. I can see how 2 key runs aren't really that profitable.

Just be careful not to rip. Save the keys for some good days. Of course not everyone is NEET like me and can reserve days to just playing videogames like that. But aim higher.
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>>162756098
desu it only took the total sum collected from 1123/10000 map tiers + farming dried lake from 67 to 80
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>>162756264
I didn't even know 5 keys was possible, guess I'm just retarded then.
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anime
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>Yes! After all those days farmming Dried Lake I finally have enough currency to buy some gear so I can farm more!
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>>162753009
>650 dps
That's average damage you mongoloid.
Your average damage * your attacks per second * 2.2 for your dps at stage 6.
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>character is not online
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Any suggestions for item filters?
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>>162754285

>not making it to maps

lol ok, no one cares
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>>162756463
>being a trade babby
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>got up to tier 10s
>still no 6th trial
FUCKING COME ON
I GOT LIKE 10 OFFERINGS STACKED UP
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>>162756358
Curious lockbox, argus, both stages and the default key is 5.
Poelab always notes the curious box for uber if it's there.
They usually take a little extra time because you have to get a silver key but in general to worth it. The chance of getting the box with two treasure keys goes up drastically when you're at 5 keys.
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>>162756631
>only 10
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Item binding is retarded as either it will be too short to have an effect or destroy the economy by removing liquidity

Fixed pricing is retarded as has been proven by fixed price autist in this thread for years

AH isnt necessarily "worse" but it could lead to the issues d3 had where the economy becomes the game. Furthermore, most of the casuals complaining about trade right now would likely be worse off.
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>>162756720
I only play casually.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-eMt3SrfFU
Holy shit, PoE is finished...
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>>162756730
>as has bee proven
At least link a scholarly article on the subject anon.
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>>162756717
You had one job
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>>162756769
Was there any battle in Dunkirk? I thought Hitler went full retard and let the Brits escape without a problem.
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Are there any decent stats for chancing uniques yet or is it all just speculation? For example chancing a skyforths
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>>162755924
why is double scourge better than binos? they do average dmg from what I see
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Are there texture packs for this game? Default ones look like shit.
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>>162723243
>hasted onslaught skittering spider
tfw the game tries to give you ptsd
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>>162757414
It depends of his rarity.
So chancing a Skyforth is hard af
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>>162758030
GGG said it's okay to use Reshade
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>tfw always getting 1 key from izaro

how do people get several keys?
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Did you guys use your shaper orbs on any uncommon maps? People seem to agree on 95% of the best shaper orb picks
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>>162758695
"Any mechanics that have not been dealt with will carry over for the subsequent fights. However, leaving the mechanics untouched (Ex. don't destroy any portals, have all three idols activate, don't activate any charge disruptors, etc.) will result in Izaro dropping an additional Treasure Key on death."
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>>162758695
Izaro must be full buffed to get 3 keys

http://www.poelab.com/izaro-phases-1
This page tells you how to do that

They forgot one buff, the portals, let all 3 portals intact to buff Izaro
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>>162753009
try to get 250 pdps at least. Don't rely on this:

>>162754124

formula, or similar. With low req base and poor flat even tyrranical won't help. And with 20% ias and t1 flat it's enough to get good bench roll (75%-79%) to be fine.

Then you can start to worry about base crit :^)
P.S, Don't try to craft that shit, it's twice as pain in the ass, since you can roll spell stuff.

I'm no native speaker down on speed to boot, but I hope u could decode above post.

tl;dr

http://poe.trade/search/oratominamaasi

u can get decent dagger for 15c

I can't get decent bow for 2ex
http://poe.trade/search/oratominamaasi
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:^)
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Why is Contagion/Essence Drain so fun?
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>>162759042
Why is that? Are bow builds more popular than dagger builds?
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>>162759067
I don't get it
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How do breaches work?

What keeps them 'open' and what improves their loot or occurance of those clasped hands/rare monsters?
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>>162759541
because you haven't been playing it that long
the novelty wears off when you realize your clearspeed is basically hardcapped at mediocre with nothing for you to really do.
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My items haven't been listed all fucking day
Anything wrong with poe.trade atm?
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>>162759740
>what keeps them open
killing breach mobs
>but i'm killing them as fast as they spawn!
then you're getting the maximum output of your breaches
>those clasped hands
you can actually see where they will occur by looking around the breach before you open it, they kinda look like shimmery stumps that require a close eye to pick out
>rare monsters
random
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>>162758695
Leave mechanics up.
Kill Argus.
Some special box.
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>>162759838
Yes
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>already burnt out and bored
the fun latency time gets shorter every league
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>>162730312
I don't remember clearing whole screen in 0.2 seconds or melee being useless shit in Diablo 2, so he's right.
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>>162759583

no idea desu, but bow market crash fucks me 10/10
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>>162759745
Yeah I hate pressing 2 buttons and taking a sip of my drink while the screen disappears in front of me.
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>>162760134
ty
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>>162760507
Exactly.
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>Open breach
>its xoph breach
>It barely drops any shards anyways

I have 60/60 block and almost 30k evasion i still get randomly 1 shot or nearly 1 shot even with artic armor fortify and basalt 5k hp

>shitcrow
Im learning hte game its the first lfie character i made

The only thing i can do is to finish 6linking a kintsugi but im 700/1500 fuse

I litearlly have no control over wherever i die or not beyond manually dodging than when i started the game
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>>162757478
it's mainly due to getting 140% increased damage when recently hit and how that stacks with bleed/poison. Admittedly probably not worth it unless you're Assassin with Toxic Delivery and a shit ton of crit (which takes some effort with scourge, increased crit strikes support is mandatory to get 100%)
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>>162759941
>you can see where they'll spawn
Can you see that before opening the breach or do they only become visible as it's expanding?
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>>162760297
I dont like this melee is useless meme

EQ and Cyclone are very good melee skills (as is BF but thats semiranged)

for every heavy strike there is a burning arrow or lightning tendrills
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melee shitters just want to be able to facetank all bosses and clear as fast as ranged builds
that's all there is to their shit
it's been going on for years
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>>162761246
How is that any different than ranged? I mean, obviously a ranged character might dodge attacks but I don't see the difference. Sorry I'm new.
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>>162761034
before opening. it's not really worth the effort to scout them out since it's still the case that you'll either get them or you won't.
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>>162761147
Blade Flurry is not melee
Lacerate is not melee
Earthquake covering the whole screen is not melee

Fuck you.
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>>162761246
Except you can't facetank anything in fact some faggy faggot in cloth robes with 15k es can actually facetank because he can leech everything back in a split second
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reminder that melee shitters are the most autistic and annoying faggots in every video game and if you ever get a job working as a gamedev remember to make melee as bad as possible, because you will make garbage people mad as fuck
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>>162761406
is reave not melee too? How about cyclone? Shield Charge prolif? Is dual strike the only real melee skill?
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>>162760862
it gets more clear why bows are expensive now
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>>162761658
The problem is not just for melees the same goes for every build that doesn't satck 10+ ES so that they end up in half health instead near dead whenever they get hit
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>>162687872
Why the fuck do hubris circlets with high ES cost like 2 exhalted
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Is Standard even worth playing?
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>>162762091
Because they have high ES, idiot.
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why aren't highly desirable items cheap
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>>162762091
>why is the most important stat in the game expensive?
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>>162762015
Really this is a game design problem, PoE needs more extreme dps small hits (ie tittybitches) and less shit like slams and volitiles
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>>162762135
Nope
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>>162762221
Martin Shkreli style price gouging
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>>162754285
you suck fuck off
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>>162762142
Eat shit and die, I'll just sell my exalteds for 5$ to gook ex farmers so they can resell for 6
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I really enjoy this player interaction of having to message 20 people to get an item worth 1 alch right now.
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>>162762015
im trying to proove that wrong with my life build
so far way more trying than prooving, but im not giving up yet
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>>162762381
This

>trade has to be inconvinient
>so that an small group can manipulate the market at will
>Droprate are high in the first days when these organized parties can get to mapping in 4 hours and to level 90 in less than a day
>After they farmed enough drop rates are lowered
>The rest of the players have to buy shit from the top who is into rmting
>in breaches they nerfed the drops so hard that even killing rare monsters might not yield a single frag
>The amount of frags per breach has been fixed
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>>162762267
One solution would be to divide a lot of larger mob hits into multiple smaller hits, which would make both evasion and armour more reliable.

Really, though, GGG needs to decide whether they want ES to be a third defensive mechanic or just 'Life, except bigger'.
>>
our boy alkaizer is killing it
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anyone ever bother with leo and his dailies? how is it? thinking about getting that hideout..
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>>162762579
Thats not the problem. the problem is that armor and evasion are worthless in comparison to high hp pool+vaal pact becuase they are essentially russian roulette

The things that actually mitigate damage can be gotten by any build (end/fortify/damage reduction node/etc)
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>>162762772
Neither armour nor evasion is random tho
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>>162762673
If you have a friend/do a leo rotation it's much easier. You only need level 3 for the DoT enchant for caustic arrow, but if you're going for the dank hideout at level 7 get ready to hate your life.
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>>162762267
No, this does nothing but hurt ES builds, the bigger issue is that Armour is straight up broken and doesn't mitigate shit. Fix it and make it actually mitigate.

Idk how to fix EV, it's just shit
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can't wait for act 5 mobs to have overtuned damage so i can bask in whiny retard tears
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>>162762848
if you have a six shooter with only one bullet and you keep pulling the trigger, eventually that bullet is going to go off.

that's incredibly similar to the way evasion works.
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>>162762848
b8

>>162762901
Dexterity should give bonus armor so that they get some semblance of mitigation
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>>162762267
Too bad they need huge oneshots because people just log out when their health is going down
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>>162762901
smaller hits are mitigated better by armor, and eva is entropic so it will mitigate a lot of it

ES needs the hit. Only issue i see is how armor and eva dont help against ele, might want to change sources to hybrid phys
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>>162763274
>ES needs the hit
you need the hit fuckboy why shouldn't I get a higher survivability ceiling than armour or ev builds if I'm spending 5-10x as much? stupid fucking equality of outcome liberals.
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>>162763113
>mobs that poison/bleed/burn
>mobs with high density that shoot projectiles
>mobs that do a slam attack
>mobs that charge at you
>generic mobs that just run up to you and autoattack
>that one mob that spawns by itself and does crazy burst damage to you before hiding underground
>mob that uses a recently released skill as its main attack
>retextured/recolored old mobs that don't actually do anything different
#wow #whoa
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>>162763867
>ES costs more than life builds
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>>162763867
What a retard
>>
just as a reminder, just because you experienced an endorphine rush, it doesn't mean you achieved anything

it's a videogame
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So, If I make a character in this game do I pretty much have to look up a build guide from the very begining of when i start allocating skill points if I dont want my character to suck?
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what if instead of nerfing ES, GGG actually made evasion, armor, and hybrid good
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>>162764475
>Poe
>Endorphin rush
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>>162764535
Yes, at least for your first 3-5 builds before you figure out hos stats/the tree works. Use the offline skill tree planner to learn.
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>>162764475

>t. shitttercorer
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>>162764475
>endorphins
>not dopamine for just playing video games in the first place
fucking tryhard
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqz-kjjsxYY
Buy them while they are cheap
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>>162765382
PING PONG
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>>162763117
>that's incredibly similar to the way evasion works.
Sure, but if the bullet is always in the same chamber it's not random.
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>>162765382

>old buzzaw build
>newfriends think this is novel
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>>162765382
>Generic high ES life leech build #412312
o waw
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>>162765994
He fucking even outheals the shaper laser thing

see whats the point of armor and evasion?

Remove vaal pact
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>>162766151
>nerf this because it works too well
rather buff everything else

retards
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>>162766151
>He fucking even outheals the shaper laser thing
lmao is this the first time you've seen this
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>>162766151
vaal pact also works with life builds
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>unleash the vaal demon in act2
>everything goes dark
>portal back to the town
>even the town is dark
>climbing up the stai-
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHERE DID THIS ELITE MOB COME FROM
>literally jump away from the screen a bit
>It was just some lvl 86 guy in a fancy pants armor
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>>162766321
Yes

>>162766431
And life builds have half or even 1/3 the HP of ES builds and are susceptible to 1 shots
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>>162766661
what does that have to do with vaal pact
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Is there anyting of value in the intricate locker in uber lab? I just spent a lot of time only to get a vendor unique.
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>>162766748
If armor and evasion weren't shit characters that spec into them would be immortal with vaal pact

Thats the whole fucking problem with this game

Its better to have a gigantic hp pool to survive enough to leech back than have any sort of mitigation
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>>162766791
In über lab you can drop the Death's Door
2 ex on poe.trade
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>>162767073
Is it on a really low % or is it actually worth trying for? Took me a considerable amount of time to go for that detour
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>>162767204
Yes even with a low roll but it's really rare
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>>162765382
Anybody who isn't retarded could see that HoW&A is broken as fuck
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>>162766953
>>162766953
>Its better to have a gigantic hp pool to survive enough to leech back than have any sort of mitigation

this has been the status quo since 2012

ggg thinks people should play the game this way. dont expect it to change
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>>162766151
Make Ghost Reaver 40% as effective.

Make Vaal Pact disable health flasks

Reduce damage across the board by 5-8%

Fixed meta
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How does he walk?
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>>162765848
it starts in a random chamber at the start of every fight
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>>162767616

>Make Ghost Reaver 40% as effective.
>Make Vaal Pact disable health flasks
>Reduce damage across the board by 5-8%

So basically only allow ES builds to use VP at all at 60% of its current strength (solely limited by dps so still virtually unchanged for ll and good crit builds)?

wew

>Fixed meta

im glad you dont make vidya
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>>162767680
You don't summon golem unless you press shift
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>>162767849
Yes

Fuck Vaal Pact. It needs to be fucking crucified because it is pretty much the sole cause of the retarded power creep because it directly translates ability to project damage into survivability, which is absolute bullshit and has caused the devaluation of actual defensive mechanics.
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>>162767616
No

vaal pact needs to go

make life leech nodes actually worth it but make it so you need mitigation or else you can't outheal the damage

Remove all non gear related % mitigation except for ascendancies so that you actually have to design your character so that ES doesnt stupidly outvalue life and life can actually play the game without dropping to near dead or straight up dying in 1-3 hits

Endurance charges give bonus global defense instead of mitigation

Change fortify too
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>>162768191
At least we both agree that Vaal Pact is cancer, even if the implementation of all the other shit is up for debate.
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>>162762574
>in EHC a Bino's was like 10c and a Death's Hand was 1c
>now they're both multiple exalts this league

epoch as fuark
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>>162768286
yes vaal pact ruins the game. I remember ORPGs in warcraft 3 (custom maps that were diablo like or MMO like were you could save your character and all) never had lifeleech and always said in the loading screen if you see a lifeleech (in w3 is instant) item thats a hacked version
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>>162768161

except you arent really killing vaal pact. you are just killing life builds

you think any ES build with over 100k dps is gonna give a fuck about 40% less leech? oh noes now im only leeching 5k life per second per each monster insteaf of 8k!

VP is all that keep life builds anywhere near viable right now
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>>162768445
Yeah, wc3 modders figured out that aspd+leech was cancer many years ago
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>>162768464
Fair point.

In that case, just remove Vaal Pact entirely, combined with the moderate enemy damage nerf.
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>>162767849
>Make Vaal Pact disable health flasks
You forgot that health flasks aren't even that useful in life VP builds, let alone ES builds. Vaal disc will still be effective as a facetank option along with Vinktars.

>>162768161
>>162768191
If anything, ghost reaver should be the keystone to go fuck itself. ES is supposed to be a different alternative to life, not a replacement. Following that, leech itself needs more investment at the same level of block/dodge with mana leech being even harder to get (spell dodge/block).
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who wants to trade me their anima stone or primordial might for something less than 4ex because i am broke as fuck
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>>162768725
are u a preggo cute trap/girl with webcam?
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>>162768683
They nerfed leech in like 2.0, the community was fucking outraged.

Little did we know, they saw this coming all along.

Unfortunately, even life builds with sufficient damage projection and leech can be immortal with VP. It needs to die.
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>>162768839
if i were, do you think i'd be here begging? shaking my head
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Why aren't melee skills melee anymore?
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>>162768935
Because meleefags don't know what they want

>Bitch endlessly about namelocking
>Bitch endlessly about melee skills that allow you to actually clear

I mean, they made it slightly better now, but namelocking is still an issue. Ideally you'd automatically orientate to an enemy in range, but that sounds complicated to implement.
>>
assuming I have a chayula's and VP and know what im doing, what's the minimum ES i need to clear red maps safely?
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>>162766953
I don't think Vaal Pact is inherently imbalanced since life builds can take it too, but the biggest offender is Ghost Reaver since life is designed to have a smaller pool overall, but be more sustainable when paired with armor/ev, while ES would be better balanced by having a large pool so you don't have to necessarily worry about a few large hits incoming, but not being instantly being able to refill your ES pool
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>>162769163
>ut that sounds complicated to implement.

both GD and tl2 do it

dunno about tl1 or D3 since i never played melee in those
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>>162769549
yes it is. As long as you are hitting you can't die
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>>162769638
tl2 does melee the best out of the genre.
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>>162769549
Vaal Pact is inherently imbalanced because, as previously stated, it basically translates damage into survivability and encourages bullshit power creep.
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what if mob density was significantly lowered

and monster stats/loot was rebalanced around it

that way the clearspeed meta could go fuck itself because oneshotting monsters would be a thing of the past
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>>162771365
It would unironically pigeonhole players into single target builds which is neither interesting, nor solving any balance issues.
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>>162771608
>single target builds
so melee would be good again?
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I just traded an alchemy orb for a quill rain, but I see some of those reaching even 30 chaos orbs. What's the difference, except gem slots?
>>
>Tfw no MTX so you don't look cool
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>>162771980
from what I've seen on HC leagues generally Quill Rains that are >55 ilvl (can roll 6 sockets) are 2c, anything less than that are usually 1c, then value ranges high on 5l/6l or a really expensive corruptions like fires an additional arrow
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>>162772270
>tfw you could only afford stash tabs but got the free full armor sets from the leagues before GGG realized it hurt their sales
>tfw swag af in your seraph armor (3 colors) and Rigvald's armor sets and making ez exalts with p2w tabs
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>>162772270
you should've gotten the only MTX that matters
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>>162771365
the clearspeed meta exists because risk is not properly rewarded. killing 5 shitty white packs gives you better odds of good loot (exalt drops and diviner's strongboxes) than one boss even if those 5 shitty packs are in area level 68 and the one boss is a tier 13 fight because gear (the only drops that improve with area level) has such high odds of being worthless shit while chaos and exalt drops (which are at the same drop rate/kill in every zone from dried lake on) are always worth.

In your system, maximizing your killed packs/hour is still the best way to farm currency and xp, you just prioritize a slightly different balance of stats (huge screen clearing AoE is not as important as raw damage)
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>>162771712
Not really, you don't really solve any balance disparity between being ranged and avoiding damage altogether or being melee and getting smacked in the face with the necessary one-shot mechanics. The few melee skills that are good would still be good with Conc Effect and the ranged skills would still be good by virtue of being ranged. "Clear speed meta" would be unchanged except for the fact a higher number of builds would be cast aside, unless your magical rebalancing act can also take into account leech, flask charges, on-hit/on-being-hit effects, vaal skills souls, AoE and so on.
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>>162772563
>>162772651
I missed this when I was taking a very long break from PoE ;_;
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>>162772651
when the fuck was this?
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>>162772958
torment/bloodlines
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we need a new thread, someone should get on that. I won't.
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>>162765382
So
Is this viable?
I already have ES equip from my ED character
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>>162772958
21 months ago
if you don't have the sanguine set, you're a newshit, period
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>162773170
>>162773170
>>>162773170
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>>162773125
>tfw I got my set with Zeno's help
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>>162773278
lol i remember a few people got mad at him for abandoning groups at like lvl 50
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>>162772651
>tfw ripped on the last day trying to kill shrine piety
helmet never ;_;
>>
I just started this game 2 days into the League.

Started on HC because I'm not a bitch but I've died like 6 times and it's a little frustrating.

Is it okay to go to Breach Standard just to get my bearings or should I just shove my face into the grindstone?
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>>162772443
>5l/6l
what does this mean? I'm pretty new so I have some catching up to do regarding abbreviations and slang.
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>>162774893
# of links between the sockets
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>>162774893
>>162774965
also let me specify it's the total number of sockets that are connected by links, not just how many sockets have links

so like a 5 link is defined by 5 sockets being connected together so you can have a gem with 4 supports affecting it, but a 6 socket item with only the columns connected, not between rows, is a 2l
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>>162774753
people who have never played the game should always start on non hardcore

there are too many bullshit insta kills that you need to learn to avoid
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>>162774893
6 links are good because you get to put in an active skill gem with 5 support gems that each makes it multiplicatively better. 5 multipliers is better than 4.
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>>162775912
But I feel like a shitter.
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>>162776564
because you are
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>>162776934
How do I stop being a shitter.
>>
>>162774753
>>162776564
Breach Standard. Go back to BHC after you've learned the game.
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>>162777828
Learn the game
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>>162777828
keep playing
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>>162778007
>>162777828
This. You'll never learn if you don't keep playing. I hope your first deaths were very humbling.
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>>162778132
Died 3 times to Dominus Norm and other times were just being a dumbass and opening Breaches in narrow corridors so I couldn't escape them.

Lost a Lifesprig that way.
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>>162778270
Have you ever seen the true face of God, exile?
>>
sold this for 45c

who scammed who
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>>162778910
You decide...
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i like this thread better
gonna stay here until 404
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