Dota 2 General - /d2g/

>d2g is full of autists that are literally incapable of accepting change
>now going full sperglord mode

Its like you told them you would take away their tendies.

It's over. Bend over and take it, right now! There's no escaping, d2g! Prepare to cry!

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WHY IS EVERYTHING FUCKING BLUE AND GREY
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE TO LOOK IF EVERYTHING IS THE SAME COLOUR
VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALVE

this UI is so bad

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best waifu coming thru

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for me this patch made the game more fun, less frustrating and still very far from the lol kind of spamfest with passive abilities
its in a perfect balance now

>>162635557
In options, under minimap, untick "Simplified Minima

>>162635516
WEEEEEEEEEEEE ACCEPTING CHANGE IS A GOOD THING, YOURE AN AUTIST IF YOU REFUSE TO SEE SOMETHING YOU LOVE GET DESTROYED TO APPEAL TO NEW PLAYERS WHEN YOUVE BEEN THERE FOREVER

>>162635474
Meme fire lands was mid or end cata?? I cant remember, i stopped played cata between mid and end

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Who else super exited to see rtz EXPOSED with this new patch?

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Option to use old ui fucking WHEN? this shit is so ugly like goddamn

>>162635571
Bot

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>>162635487

>top changes the actually affected the game POWER LIST

1. XP changes
2. Shrines
3. Jungle changes
4. Rune changes
POWER GAP
100. Talent Trees
POWER GAP

POWER GAP

POWER GAP

9001. UI

>>162635649
STOP BEING ENTITLED ITS A BETA!!

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>League HUD
>League map symmetry
>League support scaling
>HOTS talent tree
>Reddit balance
>Crysis 1 max settings system requirements
>Valve thinks this will drive up profit

rmyt

>>162635626
OH YOU'RE MAKNIG FUN OF PEOPLE WHO CAN ACCEPT CHANGE HUH? WELL ACTUALY FUCK YOU! YOU JUST OVERREACT TO EVERY PATCH YOU FUCK! YOURE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO CRIES THAT HTEY'LL LEAVE EVERY TIME A HERO THEY LIKE IS NERFED! FUCK YOU! THE NEW UPDATE IS FUCKING GREAT! TRY IT OUT! TRY IT OUT GOD FUCKING DAMNIT!

>>162635631
i don't remember either, this game is dead to me

I miss Dota guys

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>>162635605
there is no such option

Anyone here remembers the old UI ?!
Good old days...

>>162635487
HE ACTUALLY DID IT

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>Hugh4Sweden

who the fuck is hugh

>>162635487

This image comes from a region of time and space alien to our everyday experience

This is THE MEMEZONE

>>162635741
Simple. FUCKING. MINIMAP! BACKGROUND! How DENSE are YOU!? I EVEN SAID UNTICK! GOD DAMNIT! WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU! YOU COULDN'T INTERPRET THAT FROM THE INFORMATION YOU GOT HUH? WAS IT TOO HARD FOR YOU??

>>162635716
Fair enough. I did lot of raids in cata and they were all okish i suppose..

>Dota 3 is like Leauge
>HL 3 will be like CoD but in VR

Why did you not stop the fatman?

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What does reddit think about the new patch?

Please tell me they hate it because thats literally the only chance we have for this garbage to be fixed

>>162635707
>For years people complained about the HUD being shit
>For years people complained the stats system was uninspired garbage
>It's bad because the changes everybody wanted resemble features other games already had because they were sensible

>>162635792
OH YEAH BRO HARDCORE GAMERS HAVE +2 STATS FUCK YEAH !!!

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With the UI being now fully Panorama (So mostly CSS + JS) and client mods still possible, it is actually very possible now to mod the UI to your liking, for example changing the circle buffs to squares.

Too bad you are all too stupid to do it.

>>162635697
Shit changes
>faster XP
>shrines
>ui

okay changes
>talents
>map

good changes
>runes

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What purpose does the jungle serve now?

>>162635874
for IDIOTS WHO STILL PLAY THE SHIT GAME TO GO

EE bots AI when?

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FPS
FIX
HOW

>He sits in his basement at home
>He defends valve on an anonymous imageboard
>valve a company worth billions of dollars

and he does it all

F O R
R
E
E

>>162635802
>In options, under minimap, untick "Simplified Minima
>I KNOW I TOLD YOU WRONG BUT HOW DID YOU NOT JUST KNOW?

autism

#NotMyPatch

>>162635719
i miss dota too but it's for the best anon
>>162635815
>ywn get that exciting feeling of killing a boss again

>>162635874
Same as usual? Are you dumb.

Did you think jungle was for you to pick Jugg and farm 30 minutes from level 1 onwards?

stupid faggot

what if
>add shrines and 4 bounties so nobody has to go back to base anymore
>everyone gets FREE levels no more toxic mechanics to prevent supports from xp starving
>EPIC TALENTS TREES!!!!
>so much flashy shit pregame and in game that you are guaranteed to have seizure before the game's over
>MORE POWER CREEPING SO THE GAME FEELS LIKE DOTA IMBA XDD THAT'S MY FAVOURITE CUSTOM GAME EPIC XD
VALVE IS GOING TO MAKE BIG $ WITH THIS PILE OF SHIT

Give me 1(one) good reason why there should be supports now ?

There are 4 jungles, no need to take up space in a lane and leach exp, just go jungle and you will get more gold for wards and actual items.

Literally all heroes can jungle now or lane solo.

>>162635874
You can still jungle, I just stomped as 4wolf with a jungling start

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Ilexa when?

>>162635914
You legitimately can't decide between two things to untick when he wrote fucking simplified or whatever? And one of them sais simplified? Are you retarded? Actually you're both retarded. Fucking mongoloids.

>>162635974
they game needs ults like Overwatch I want to press my ult and kill EVERYBODY MOMMY

>>162635990
Because the jungle camps spawn only every odd minute?

>>162635874
Getting pounded right in the boipussy by treant

Treant is absolutely retarded with invis-bash lmfao.

Guarenteed nerfs coming to it

>>162636009
how do you jungle a fucking right clicker in the current jungle?

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Who else /uninstalled/?

I honestly don't care for -apem dota.

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>>162636028
can't be soon enough

>>162636097
i did

>>162636046
>
there are 5 camps in all 4 jungles you clear them within 2 minutes, at least for the first 10 mins

>>162636052
I started tango salve stout ring of protection
I took the medium camps from level one just like in the iron talon meta
It was definitely slower than it used to be and I was low on health for a lot of it, but once lycans passive is lvl2 you do very well for yourself

>>162636039
>And one of them sais simplified?
but it literally doesnt, you are just spewing retarded shit that isnt correct. holy shit man relax your autism and maybe give people clear instructions next time instead of expecting people to just read your mind. do you tell people to turn left when they are driving and get mad at them when they dont turn right?

>>162635901

POWER PC 8 + dual Titan Xs

it's the way it's meant to be played :V

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I have a GTX 960 and my game is chugging hard

anyone with the same card having issues?

>>162636097
played couple of games and lost all the interest i had in the game.

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>/d2g/ right now

Anyone else burst out laughing after seeing that puck illusory orb speed talent?

>>162636097
i did, fuck this patch

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>>162636197
>Nvidia

>Reinstall after three years of not playing
>Get to learn the entire game again

Why would anyone ever pick the first 2 levels of talents? You're deciding between a skill level and something like +2 armour.
You gotta be retarded or play a hero with a useless skill.

>>162636237
yeah it's good if you add valve shills to the last panel. only legit retards or paid shills will defend it.

>>162636157
Any other human would have simply gone "Oh he meant Simple, he must have remembered incorrectly or something" and unticked it, instead you freak the fuck out over that the word isn't the exact same, but pretty close. Sometimes, even with poor instructions, the answer is so obvious it really, really should not be hard to figure it out, even with poor instructions.

>>162636312
Yeah true man, the new patch is shit. Why don't the pros just quit? Why are people still steaming? I would legit not go to the next major if I was pro, because the whole thing would just be random. They just made it in to League of HotS, it's so stupid.

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PLEASE
PICK ME
MY WINRATE IS UP 12%
I DON'T TAKE AS MUCH SKILL AS YOU THINK
P I C K M E

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>>162636273
who is this cucumber cutie?

>these kind of people exist in d2g

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5i36pc/7_reasons_why_patch_700_has_been_awesome_for_me/

Support cucks destroyed the game

>you will never be a good goy and get cucked by odpixel and sheever

feels bad

>>162635571
holy shit widowmaker is flat as fuck

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>>162636408
Don't you dare talking shit about Lumi

Where do you lane lycan now
is it jungle?

>>162636097
i played 3 games and uninstalled because this isnt dota anymore. the game feels exactly like league did 2 years ago when i quit that game. its a real shame honestly, im pretty sure this patch is going to see a massive drop in players. i dont even understand why everything changed so massively, its like they changed everything just to have changed everything. there is no rhyme or reason to most of the changes and nothing was wrong with 70% of the stuff in game anyway

>>162636375
this
where did the stats go? , they literally removed the alt stats (which where also shit)

>>162636390
>why people who benefit from just playing on their fat asses do it
(You)

>le icefraud is dead meme
stop

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>-60 second respawn at level 20
>level 20 respawn timer is about 13 seconds
Good luck pushing highground rofl

>>162636403
You're going to be my go-to hero, don't worry

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>>162636097

I played 3 games (about 5.5k avg mmr)

-2 were monkey king shitfests.
-In all 3 laning was over by 4 minutes and everyone kept fighting since you had fountains in the jungle
-Supports now have core levels of farm at minute 20, everyone gets an escape tool.
-Everyone is leveled as fuck, build progression means jack shit since everyone has at least two non-ultimate skills maxed by mid game.
-there are 3 levels of high ground every 100 units

talents are cool though, not cool enough to keep me wasting time with this. I've played this since allstars but it's time to stop.

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Old UI needs and shop needs to come back and everything is cool.

Why would you think its a good idea to press alt to see KDA and LH?

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>>162636451
FLAT IS JUSTICE!

Money King item transformation skill seems to be fucking useless.

>>162636408
The patch is awesome get with the times granpa

>>162636508
Haha, fucking BernCuck spotted over here! I'm walking here!

>>162636375
Stop sperging you fucking retard
>>162636473
Press alt faggot

I just downloaded the game, I was diamond in League and GM in HOTS, which hero should I spam with this new patch ?

>>162635958
>tfw

>ui
worst change in history of dota, bar none
>map and jungle changes
weird as hell, dont like it personally
>talents
intense memes, either almost unnoticable or dumb as hell
>shrines
less intense memes
>runes
who cares
>monkey king
wait for the inevitable nerfs then evaluate

overall, this is easily one of the 10 worst patches in history

>Watch Bulldog stream.
>everything looks greyed out.
what the fuck?

>>162636542
use it to turn into a tree when juking in the jungle, fools people every time

Techies as a stacking jungler
Lane till level three, stacking the large camp at :55 and 2:55, then spam q for free creeps

>>162636589
McCree

Friendly reminder that AM, BH, Centaur, Clinkz, DS, Void, LS, Lycan, Medusa, Meepo, Naga, PL, SF, Sven and TA can all get free Evasion now, in case you are wondering why you're missing your attacks on them.

As I was.

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I'm sad to see there weren't any support buffs this patch. How about reducing the cost of TPs or wards?
Would be great for us support players don't you think?

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>>162636523
>defending highground when you cant stack mines anymore
going against a techies is LITERALLY 5v4 after min 30 and I couldnt be happier. fuck that hero

>>162636589
Just try some heroes and see which ones you like. Your ranks don't matter here.

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>>162635792
>game is casualized because there are talents that enable more ways to play and build a certain hero
>true depth was getting +2 stats

>>162636408

>tl;dr: its SUPER EASY NOW that means it's good right goys?

>>162636659
DELET THIS

>>162636650
>free
you skip a level for it if you level talent though, momentarily yes, but anyways

>>162636672
You can stack remote mines the same way you always could

>>162636659
>I'm sad to see there weren't any support buffs this patch.
every support gets FREE gpm and FREE xp though... its a pretty massive buff. they also get FREE slots for wards

>downloading the patch right now

so, what's the veredict dotards? is it as bad as we initially thought?

>>162636659
don't worry bro just pick the 100gold/min talent and remember to use backpacks! remember the old six backslot limitation was toxic so of course we got rid of it :)

>>162636689
Ohohoh, it's BernShill.. man. In here. Oh boy, it's the.. It's the BernShill

HAHA. I am laughing. At you.

>>162636672
you know that it's his ult mines that made highground impossible and they didn't change them, even buffed their cast point buff)

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>mfw backpack

>>162636768
its p good
lotsa fighting

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>>162636583
im pressing faggot, learn 2 read or atleast play the game

>>162636542

you can avoid tower aggro with it

>>162636408
>criticize the patch
WOW GIVE IT A CHANCE AND PLAY IT MORE
>praise patch
Wow, +1 ubboated, liked.

>>162636768
yea its like league and hots had a baby and somebody tried to strangle the baby.

>>162636565
wut.

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How long until Water Spirit gets released?

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>>162636829
lmao

>>162636768
7.00 is the worst patch i have every played

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Last hitting is a toxic and outdated mechanic. No plays Dota to spend 20 minutes clicking against a matchine, it's just barbaric and stupid.
When will last-hitting creeps get removed? I play for action filled teamfights not autistic farming.

>>162635901
Reddit is going full REEEEEEEEE mode about it so just wait.

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is he being ironic?

They need to put the HP/mana above the skill shit, its way more important in teamfights.

Everyone (usually) remembers what they fucking leveled, its not like HP/Mana that changes all the time.

>>162636768
It's fun but it's not dota.

>>162636858
Oh you oh you dont even oh youre the stupid dummy in ACTION here, haha, Bernieman! Uh Bernie ugly.. boy! Get outta here, I'm WALKING here! BERNKEK eeere! Haha! I laugh at you now! I laugh loudly, to devalue your opinions!

>>162635180

>>162636907
Newfag

>>162636768

Depends.

Do you like overwatch, lol and new gen "brawlers"? Then it's awesome.

Did you play dota since the battle.net days and watched it evolve slowly into whatever the game was today? Then it's fucking shit and you should fill the hard drive space with smug anime lolis instead of this fucking unpolished turd.

>>162636934
If it wasn't because it's ironic, I'd be enraged because this is basically the type of people that dictate Dota's balance right now.

>he plays in the first week of a new patch when its full of bugs.

>>162636959
>lumi
stopped reading there
literally who cares?

>>162636959
How much $ is the monkey arcana? Why is Valve so scummy does anybody remember the time when Valve sold the Dota 2 beta for 40$.

>>162636813
There is something wrong with your ui. Stats show when you press alt. Near your inventory.

>>162636768

it's like they picked a custom game and made it the actual game. Good for a while but it gets boring after a couple games.

Dead game.

>>162636907
>6.XX is the worst patch i have every played
EVERY
FUCKING
PATCH

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Admirabulldog's stream isn't funny, why is everyone spamming his dank maymays everywhere?

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Why cant I see my attributes anymore? not even with alt shown
How am I supposed to calculate eblade or OD ult dmg?!
WTF?!

>>162637113
The only thing bad is the dogshit HUD.

>>162636818
I like this webm for some strange reasons

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>>162636768
its fun right now because nobody has figured out the patch yet and people are trying new things

the game is physically painful to play because of all the colors and the godawful layout and look of the new UI. just look at this webm for a preview of how it feels.

Talents are very imbalanced right now but with such a huge change its to be expected.

New hero is pubstomp tier strong. I would not play ranked until he gets hotfixed

>>162637116
if you honestly look at dota in its current state and dont think its shit you are either some league refugee or b8ing

>>162637141
Its a bug, like invisible chat before the hotfix

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REMINDER I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN

YOU DIDNT LISTEN

all you had to do was to stop playing the game for 1 month or some shit

but no you had to keep playing the league of hots patches up until this happens

>>162637129
jebaited LUL

>>162637141
Ya press Alt, dummy! haha, what do you mean, place the statistics near the hero portrait like before? Why not just scatter information all over the hud, and make it smaller so there's more room!

>>162636934

THIS SO MUCH.

Game should spawn bounty runes at determined locations and have people fight over them.

You sir, have understood it all!

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>>162637129
>not skadooshing in 2016.

>>162637141
attributes are a toxic mechanic all are getting removed . All items only give now HP or damage spells no longer cost mana

>>162637287
I'm not surprised you're being a fucking retard

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enjoying my magnum opus, dotards?

>>162637081

quoting this so everyone knows how much of a stupid fucking fuck you are =)

>>162637318
This is uh BernCuck man, back in business here! You sound like a supporter of Bernie, my good friend. Ha. Ha. Ha. Devaluation of your opinion through laughing.

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>>162637346
Icefrog quit the team before this patch. he didnt have a hand in this one and it shows

Reminder that if you hate the new UI you are reddit

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>>162637346
the only thing magnum about this is the condom he put on before fucking us all in the ass

>>162636537
That's not flat enough famalam.

>>162637430
>Implying Icefrog isn't the only one that could pull this move knowing it was going to piss off 80% of the playerbase

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>>162637473
lol

>game doesn't even allow me to pick skills from the new branch tree shit

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>>162637346
absolute madman tier

WHERE ARE MY FUCKING STATS

Man the loading into matches is so fucking cool now.

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>>162637473

>>162637346

yeah I'm enjoying my newly free 17 GB for N64 and PSX emulators

was this your plan all along?

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I love this new patch. Fuck off tryhard autists we casuals run this shit now.

>lets force a new shitty UI that makes no sense on people AND take away half the functionality of the old one at the same time

EBIN

>>162637461
i like the idea, but it needs tweaking, like the ability to change hero panel size

>>162637551
Yeah the transition from picking to playing is much, much faster and nicer, because you actually just load the pick screen when you accept match, then it loads the game while you're picking. That's a good change.

>>162637430
This is textbook coldfrog though
His best meme since LMAO99999999illusions

Anyone tried the meme lich build?

I tried it last night, but I was unable to move my cursor, press buttons, or click at the same time so I looked like a retard and went 1-17

>>162637608
I remember when faggots like this poster were full of 'lag in '11-'12 whining about muh warcraft engine suprioerity

free to leave the game and thread anytime you want

>>162637608
>>162637548
The new UI is designed so you can focus on playing the game instead of staring at some numbers like a nerd.

>>162637623
this is literally the only thing i like about the new patch, too bad queue times are still retardedly high

>>162637587
>anime faggot
>loves eating shit

like poetry.

>>162637608
What functionality was removed?

JUST PUT THE LH KDA ON TOP OF THE FUCKING TALENT TREE.

GIVE US BACK THE OLD HUGE SHOP BUTTON.

REMOVE THIS USELESS UNNEEDED BACKPACK SYSTEM.

>>162637707
Dude the backpack is awesome are you retarded?

>>162637707
People don't just use f4 for shop?

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>>162637675
Icefrog has never alienated old players this hard in favor of new players though.

the closest thing has been octarine core and that was nowhere near as bad as this shit.

I refuse to believe that Bruno sold us out this hard

Reminder that to stop reddit we need to use their power against them. Don't complain on d2g, complain on reddit and create mass threads with mass upboats to get what we want.

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>>162637698
>autist is afraid of change
>autist is afraid of anime
pottery

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>>162637501

You're not really aware how much the playerbase has changed, sure, some of us who've been playing the game since the wc3 are mad as fuck, it's been a while since such a massive change.

But the new players and other MOBA expats are loving it, everyone gets carry levels of farm now and fights are a plenty.

We have to accept we're not the main demo anymore, pic related is

>>162637394
what

tfw you invented the word dotards 4 years ago when shitpost and nobody use it until now

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>no new items
Dota needs this most desu.

>>162637707
the backpack is LITERALLY the best change of the patch you retard

focus the complaints on the real issues like UI, Talents, game performance, and god awful balance

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1specie

merlini made a good post about icefrog

>>162637786
>Icefrog has never alienated old players this hard in favor of new players though.
Well, aparently Memeracle didn't even have and idea of this patch. So he isn't in the old boys club yet

>>162637705
level up hot key, ability to see important stats at a glance, the ability to disassemble an item and finish another within a second, and seeing your items "guide" and normal items in the shop just to name a few. this new UI is a massive down grade

>>162637901
dominator and mom changed so much they feel like new items

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>>162637608
Who could see it coming!?

>>162637918
the fuck is he trying to say here is it good or bad

>>162637786
>I'm being alienated!!!!!! Abloblobloblo, abloblobloblo
This place is indeed filled with sperging manchildren.

>a change to an objectively inferior thing is good because its change Xd

people are not stupid enough to actually beleive this meme right?

>>162637962
ctrl + number wasn't removed

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>>162637918
After a decade dota finally broke him

This patch is great, further confirmed by the ultra ass ravage mad shitters of gulag being against it.

>that exp/level circle
what a retarded piece of shit, how am i supposed to know how much exp i need to level up without numbers?

For example idk if i need 1 or 100 exp to get a new lvl, so idk if should stay and kill 1 more creep before joining a fight/going for rune or going right away

>no stats
no words about this...

what were they thinking

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>PPD is now the Trump of video games

what did he mean by this

>>162637918
is this autism?

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Skadi was turned into a non UAM so that Anti Mage could fight early.
He was also given an Aghs upgrade so that he could again fight early.

Why?
Because farming for 10 minutes now gives you less gold that trading in a single teamfight. Anti Mage would be the worst hero in the game because now everyone can get levels fast and items too.

I'm a support player. I fucking HATE how easy it is to get levels and gold now. It feels like all the nuances of laning don't exist. It was already hard enough to actually win lane to the point it matered because of iron talon jungling, but now it's a moot fucking point.
Oh the enemy offlaner is level 3 and has brown boots and a stout at minute 7?
Doesn't fucking matter, he grouped with his team and they 5 man ganked your mid. He got 500 gold and 4 levels out of it.
And now supports have tons of fucking gold, hitting those item timings is fucking child's play.

This isn't fucking dota.
I'd legitmiately ask for a refund for all the money I've spent if I didn't know that'd be about as effective as trying to cut down a tree with a toothpick.
Holy shit, this isn't dota at all. This is a fucking custom game.

>>162638053
nu-males and cucks do.

>>162638060
>old patch
>want to level up Q? just press Q
>new patch
>want to level up Q? press double the buttons even though its been the same for literally a decade before hand
>dont even give people the option to change it

epico

>I CAN HIDE MY MATCHES NOW.
FUCK YES, BEST CHANGE.

>>162637918
What a fucking retard.

>Icefrog made it so it's good!
>The diference won't even be noticed!

Oh, so please enlighten me on how +3s Leash, Triple Arrow, and pretty much the removal of stat scaling aren't important.

He should just stay being washed up in the panel.

>>162638024
literally nobody who played dota asked for half these changes. Its so blatantly obvious that they had new players in mind above old ones when these changes were thought up dont even try to deny it

so I just played my first game in the new patch..
this doesn't feel like dota at all.

>balance babies

This is literally how dota always was before esports fags came around and dota 2 started ruining shit. Dota was always a shitfest but thats what made it fun. Now everything has to be 'esports'. Fuck dota 2 babies man I wish dota never became big.

>>162638253
If Icefrog based his updates on what people like you wanted nothing would ever change.
>b-but that's a good thing wahh

No it isn't.

can someone tell me the best monkey king build?

Finally, this update has allowed me to play Dota.

Before when I saw this game. It was far too complicated for me. The huge confusing hud, the stats (im not good with numbers), and only 6 item slots.

Valve has finally stopped being elitists, and has actually made th game playable. This new talent system is fuckinf amazing, and simple to understand. Those god awful stats are gone from the screen, and the new hud isn't cancer.

Now me and my friends (who usually play smite due to it being far more action packed and awesome) might be able to get into dota. I hope valve continues on this path. Next they should fix the camera (should be tied to the hero for immersion) and make it so you don't lose gold every time you die.

>>162638184
Was that an option that you had to enable before? I remember pressing the buttons for the skills when I tried to level up and having it mess me up because it would activate some skill that wasn't applicable to whatever I was doing.

>>162638370
>Before when I saw this game. It was far too complicated for me


>game becomes way more complex and gulag starts to rant in its great cognitive dissonance how it became easier.

tope kek

Still downloading the patch (just to play my anime custom games,mind you)
how bad is nudota?

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>>162637981

>>162638137
>PPd becomes the ceo of EG
>Dota dies because of 7.0
>EG dies
What did he mean by this?

>>162638370
but smite is the future?
why are you turning your back on it?

>>162638343
Dota was fun to play before.
Now it's a terrible game that just got half of its depth and complexity removed.

And that sounds backwards, considering how much got added, but the game is so much less nuanced. Comeback gold and experience is worse than it's ever been before. Don't tell me it's not.
This is teamfight all fight farming is for faggots the game, not dota.

Go blow it out your ass.

nah this patch is all about change
there is nothing wrong with the last patch except for few little thing
but this patch,they change it for the sake of change
The player base is diminishing,the profit is decreaaeea,the Frog is gone
They panic
they have to do some thing
and this is the thing

>>162638343
change is not bad. Change to favor people who dont play your game is bad

>>162638453
It's called Alex Garfield wanted to jump ship and get rid of his "esports" organizations and found a bunch of retarded dotababs to actually buy them from him for millions

>>162638423
Way more surface level shit was added while lowering the skill ceiling.
It's amazing. This patch adds more than mot any patch in history yet it dumbed the game down extremely hard.

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>>162638471
You people whine literally every patch yet everyone still plays Dota 2 and not WC3 dota.

What could it mean?

Why are there no female jungle creeps

Did the gulag brew together a monkey king instalock script yet?

>>162638574
>Nostalrius has more players on in their stress server test than blizz in their retail servers
its amtter of time

What do people mean when they say a hero is 'bad'?

Is it bad, as in, they're just straight up weaker than most other heroes, or bad, as in, 1% less winrate at pro level?

>>162638423

>running around the jungle catching bounty runes for core levels of farm is somewhat a complex design

do you even play this game?

I am going to do grocery shopping
When I'll be back the FPS will be fixed
right?

>>162638683
That's not even remotely true but whatever. Back to your containment thread.

>>162638574
I loved the last three patches, I fucking hate this one.
Fuck off.

>>162638564
>while lowering the skill ceiling.


mate you've probably never come close to touching the skill ceiling to begin with, why do you care

>>162638378
>Was that an option that you had to enable before?
nope, default dota

>>162635859
We're not allowed to otherwise we'd get banned
>need to be smart to use css js
pls bender

>>162638574
literally in 3 weeks most people will have moved on like everything ever

>>162638541
>>162638453
>implying ppd won't create the first esports dynasty

>>162638650
just play ranked retard

>>162638836
>game is more braindead to play than it's been in decades
>I bet you were bad!

Thanks for agreeing with me though. Fucking braindead deathball patch like no other in history.

I think you level up skimpy too damn fast. I'm like level 15 20 minutes in every game. Its fucking insane.

>>162638930
>keeps reinviting rtz

Good job ppd! You're so smart!

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Reminder that sub 2k /d2g/ """ opinion """ is irrelevant. Sperg all you like, the game will get better with you autists out.

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welp, i have officially uninstalled dota. been playing this game for 6 years and while it has had its ups and down this patch is truly unbearable. goodbye gulag, its been real but its time to move on

In one game
>Shift-clicking inventory items no longer opens them in shop
>O or "skill point" hotkey no longer does anything
>Item progression charts have duplicates, sometimes triplicates of the same item listed
>Attack-move sometimes will acquire units that are in fog of war
>Yesterday it was possible to view attributes, but now it isn't, significantly impeding Morphling, and mildly impeding Centaur, Pudge, Riki and Silencer
>Cannot easily view enemy heroes' resistances and attributes (design flaw)
>Suggested items cannot be placed next to the full shop, you get one or the other
I know I'm just bitching probably but this UI fucking sucks and it's buggy as shit.

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>6.82 meme back is released

"DOTA WILL DIE!!!" -dee too fee

>reborn released

"THIS IS THE END OF DOTA!!!" - dee too gee

>7.00

"IT'S OVER ALREADY!!!" - dee too gee

when are you guys going to realse that 99% of the playerbase literally couldn't care less about any of this shit?

so we all agree this patch is shit?

>>162638993
that was garfield

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>>162638995
Aren't new and casual players the ones Valve are targeting?

>>162638975
What kind of response is this? The skill FLOOR was lowered, and shit was indeed made easier with mini-fountains.

If you think stats were a part of the skill ceiling you're a dummy. Theyre still there, and you could easily just check attack damage, armor and shit before anyway

>>162639064
See you in a cuple of days anon.

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>>162638995
you're 2k yourself.

>>162639064
See you at manilla senpai

Haven't got to play yet

Its match time shorter overall? literally everyone i know myself included stopped playing altogether because we didn't have time for 57 minutes overall for a single game

>>162638995
Raita is shit.

>>162639064

kek, I was one of those people that wrote "see you tomorrow" whenever I saw a post like this but I just uninstalled too, this is truly the end huh

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>>162638995
>The game will get better
>icefrog has been gone since 6.83
>Clearly the new team doesnt know jack shit about the game and is going to keep copying shit from other games
>The new team are literally completely useless hacks
>Thats why all the hero changes have only been ramping up their damage or changing their abilities to be stronger version of something that was already in
>Literally 0 talent and creativity

>>162639187
>Draft a bunch of heroes that can't push until they're 6 slotted
>Why are these games taking so long!!!!

>>162638995
>calls other people autists
>literally as drawing like this saved on his PC

What would your mommy say if she saw this?

>>162639083
this UI is the worst change dota has ever had by a large margin, im sure valve will fix it but it will probably take years

>>162639149
>+2 on stats is complex
>talents are for casuals
Explain this meme

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Post your MMR and your opinion of the patch

4.7k

Mixed bag, talents and UI feel bad; the UI especially, literally nobody asked for this. First impression of map and XP changes are good. Shit like performance issues and serious balance issues are obviously temporary so shouldn't even be brought up.

>>162639198
>>Literally 0 talent and creativity


literally dota from the beginning. Go play wc3 and you will see how many mechanics are literally just straight ripped from that. Like enbtire heroe designs are fucking near carbon copies of wc3 heroes.

There are like no unique spells in dota at all

>>162639297
If you think talents are the issue then you're blind

>>162639101
the world needs doomsdayers we got trump elected.

I'm glad I stopped playing this game a year ago. From the looks of it, the game had a massive overhaul.

>>162639297

nice cherrypicking retard. The one thing everyone agrees is that leveling and farming is easy as fuck now, which are the two most important things in the game.

From what I'm seeing in the high MMR games, team with most carries will win, mostly because there's too much experience and farm to go around

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FIX THE FPS ALREADY

>>162639150
The skill ceiling was managing your experience gold and the enemies experience and gold.
With rubberbanding worse than any patch in history that's no longer the case.

In every game I've played I've never felt like I was very much ahead or behind, and everyone is level capping by minute 30. Often times even sooner than that.
The skill ceiling was murdered, laning doesn't matter any more because no matter how bad you stomp your lane because the enemy can get back in the game by participating in one teamfight.
Even if they lose the teamfight, as long as their team gets a couple kills they get so much gold and experience it's not even funny. It's infuriating. This is worse rubberbanding than F-Zero GX.

I'm uninstalling this tripe and asking for a refund.
I doubt I'll get it, but whatever at least I'll make a point that will probably be disregarded 3 months later when they actually check my complaint.

>>162639317
>literally nobody asked for this


regardless of your opinion of it, people have been complaining about the old hud for years

Is talent lifesteal a UAM?

Are there any heroes with talents worth getting before lvl 15?

>>162639332
Um dota had 113+ heroes? Warcraft3 has 50

So even if they are all a carbon copy thats still leaves 63+ OC heroes?

MK damage seems retardedly broken.

>>162639317

2.2K

I LOVE LMAO I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO LAST HIT ANYMORE HAHA THANBK YO VALVVO!

>>162639387
normally i would say that this is what always happens when a new patch is released but there is actually enough farm on the map and enough gold/xp from winning fights to easily support 4 cores and probably a 5th if your winning

WHO HERE WAITING FOR pro players to show them how to play this patch properly ?

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>>162639370
>lvling and farming was harder before
Lmao are you retarded??

>>162639317
I'm 3651, no need to lie about it.
If the UI had the same hotkeys and bindings and general layout as the old one, I'd be fine with this patch, although it seems like it's going to be leaning towards deathball. Also if it wasn't so fucking bugged, I wouldn't even be complaining because everything else that's wrong with it can be dealt with. Missing keybinds though?

>>162639415
>hey guys I discovered a new buzzword

But the exp and gold bounties were lowered this patch

>>162639453
lots of units in wc3 had multiple spells, maybe not being carbon copies they basically had the same design idea

>>162639425
Literally the only people who complained about the old UI were people who didnt play dota shitposting reasons about why they didnt play dota. The new UI is smaller yes but it has less functionality and looks subjectively bad. This could be fixed by simply letting us play on the old UI

>>162639317
4.8k

Mixed bag here too. The talent system adds longevity to the game, but the balance is crazy. Also I can't play for shit because my fps tanks harder than pearl harbor, they'll eventually fix it I'm sure

I don't like the minimalistic/web 2.0 UI. I don't mind the empty space but they could have done it better.

>all of monkey king lines are reference to comics or memes

a literal meme hero

would be amazing to have mccree voice that

>Juggernaut... is it true you and Templar Assassin used to be a thing?
>Are you lone druid because you're the last druid or because you hated hanging out with the other druids?
>Hey Luna, nice wolf!
>So you're not useless half of the time, Night Stalker, that's... good!
>No! I don't want to see your "nether ward", stop asking.

>>162639453
Valve devs literall quite literally

have 0 talent and value

completely useless hacks

>>162639510
Point me out winter wyvern Ember/ ES /Earth shaker invoker chen gyro mirana timber

SIX
TREANTS

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>>162639484
Well there's two Dotapit games featuring Alliance and OG in an hour and a half, then WCA starts with Vega and a few others in 12 hours

Making a dank meme, how do I represent /d2g/? (as a character)

How do you level stats now?

>>162639482
I think they just need to tweak the experience and gold shit a bit and the games golden. Heroes get way too much for just standing around or ganking that any other strategy is probably unviable.

>talents
Dota 2 is basically LoL 2.0 now.

>>162639613
a peruvian neckbeard

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>treant now has a hard disable
>passive invisibility
>still cast out of invisibility
FUCK
YES
Wonder how viable Echo Sabre is on him now.

>>162639653
haha stay mad

>>162639632
Attribute points have been removed, after a certain level you don't acquire anything but natural attribute gains and two talent points.

>>162639580
*brofists*

>>162639494
They say that, but I've never leveled up three times from killing a single enemy hero before.
A single enemy hero gave me enough experience to go up three levels.

It wasn't a solo kill, I was with my team.
They all went up two levels.

He was 4 levels ahead of us.

I ended my last game with less than 50 last hits and only had 6k less networth than the guy with 300 last hits.
Fighting gold and experience is fucking retarded.

At this point I have no choice but to believe there's either a glitch causing kills to grant far more gold than they should or they're fucking lying to our faces. I've never seen so many gold swings in such a short amount of time so early in the game. I cannot explain this except by saying this is the most rubberbanding dota patch in history.

Do YOU have a reason to explain to me how I'm ending up with higher gpm despite worse creep score, kills and assists and more deaths than my previous games on 6.89?
I sure can't.

>>162639653
>talents are LoL

???????????????????

League makes you select EVERYTHING outside of the match. Talents literally replaced leveling up stats 1:1.

>>162639653
what has this got to do with LoL?

Why post something that clearly shows you have no idea what you are talking about?

>bulldog endlessly mocks +6 treants as a trait
>first time he uses it, it ends up being useful

heh

>>162639613
As a two-faced guy, arguing against himself, one raging mad the other worried and compensating

>>162639653
The UI is LoL the talents are HotS

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>>162639726
>>162639740
>Valve defence force

really makes you think

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>>162639613

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>Go to lane
>See mk
>Starts hitting me
>He get's his 4th hit on me
>Barely escape go to shrine to heal
>Come back
>HE STILL HAS ALL HIS BONUS DAMAGE
>Faggot isn't even hitting any creaps
>He just sits there giving me this look
Every time.

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>>162639572
>Point me out winter wyvern Ember/ ES /Earth shaker invoker chen gyro mirana timber


u got me :^)

>>162639806
>this is just like lol!
>explain how
>LUL VALVE SHILLS

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Who else exited to see pro players EXPOSED with this patch???

>>162639689
So you are forced to level skills in the early game rather than being able to opt for extra stats?

>>162639317
3,864

UI can be saved by fixing the hotkeys and putting all info revealed by alt on the UI by default.

Talents can be good with time

>>162639891
Yep

>>162636097
Not uninstalling yet but certainly not playing much more either. Two games were enough to see what a shitshow it is. It could possibly be turned into something playable like what happened with the inital rubberband nonsense but at the same time i think the damage is done. Valve blatantly spits in the face of the core playerbase. 8k hours or so played.

>>162639891
Yes, but to be fair early stats was viable on very few heroes; I can think of three.

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>>162639859
should you not do bug fixing?

>>162639891
Stats were literally only good as an early option on AM and Jugg because of their BAT.
Every other hero it was only used for joke builds.

>>162639871
Completely changing the game's structure and making all the previous information irrelevant doesn't count as exposing.

>>162639716
This is just anecdotal, get hard numbers, proof it's easier to have a higher gpm by playing worse. If you can just give it to reddit and let them burn it all down.

>>162639957
Here's a bug fix for you


*unzips dick*

So is this Dota game one of those Leaguelike games?

>>162640014
does Valve hire poo in loo posters?

How do people who use both normal and quick cast with alt modïfier toggle autocast?

>>162640095
we don't hire anyone at all

>>162640000
>it's anecdotal that I'm getting higher gpm with worse scores in general than on the previous patch

>>162640000
Nice quads also over time this kind of data will be easier to parse. If there's an average increase in GPM throughout many games, then we know that it is easier to gain gold.

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Why make invoker useless when he's clearly balanced? Is IceFrog brain damaged?

FIX THE FUCKING FPS ALREADY AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

We can do any change in gameplay anytime we want and shills will defend it for us for free hahahahaha also don't forget to buy Monkey King terrain and arcana

>>162639819
gold

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>People complaining about fps
>Meanwhile my R7 240 is running the game better than it was pre-patch

T-Thanks valve.

>>162640164
Show me the proof or look up the word in the dictionary

>>162640221
>invoker
>useless
just because you can't mindlessly right lcick to win doesn't mean he's shit

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nice frames per second dotards

>>162640221
Invoker is anti-fun and toxic.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

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I've got like $20 to spend, /d2g/.
Should I spend it on the new terrain or on a 4chan pass?

I kind of want to get both but can only afford one or the other right now.

>>162639317
3.3k

Liked talents, hated pretty much everything else. The map now has a highground everywhere and the XP changes are so fucking weird. Every game feels rushed now and it feels like I don't even know I'm playing a game to destroy the throne. It's just teamfight after teamfight. The UI is really, really bad. Completely uncalled for and all over the fucking place.

>>162640378
spend it on another game and tell valve you wont buy anything for dota until the piece of shit is region locked.

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>>162639819
>First hero designed by Valve (barring reworks)
>Original character do not steal
>Original skillset do not steal
>Right clicks are basically his only source of damage
We needed another right-click only melee hero, I tell ya.

RIGHT HERE ON EASY STREET

All the people complaining about fps. Dota 2 is CPU intensive, not GPU. If you have a shitty CPU get a better one you poor fucks.

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>>162640378
4chan pass.

Mine ran out and I FUCKING HATE IT, I'VE CLICKED ON ABOUT 500 STORE FRONTS.