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BAMBOE edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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>You can't all chat mute anymore.
Breh.
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>>162647338
based bamboe
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>>162647407
really? I often played with the mute on

no need to hear shitters talk desu
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reminder that alliance deserves to be permabanned from all valve events
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please post ilexa lewds here dotards

>>>/aco/1055937
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https://www.twitch
.tv/dotapit

First western esports on 7.00 get in here
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1-5 i uninstall 6-9 i keep it on my hdd 0 i play another match
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WHY IS THE PERFORMANCE SO AWFUL NOW
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Cleave in a cone fucking sucks for waveclear
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>>162647482
Post screencaps
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>>162647464
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natural dota talent
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OUR BOY J-GOD SLARK
GONNA DEFEAT THE KEKS
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WHY THE FUCK IS ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION EITHER ON THE CORNERS OF THE SCREEN OR HIDDEN BEHIND ALT

FUCK VALVE FUCK VALVE FUCK VALVE WHY THE FUCK IS ALL THE NECESSARY INFORMATION EITHER ON THE CORNERS OF THE SCREEN OR HIDDEN BEHIND ALT

FUCK VALVE FUCK VALVE FUCK VALVE!
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>>162647594
>Not a midas
Why

>>162647461
People are still learning how to counter him. Damage over time slows royally fuck this hero good.
>Veno
>Ogre
>Sniper
>Jakiro
The list goes on. That being said he's still ridiculously powerful
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>slardar sprinting next to the spinning jugg
prop players
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POST EM
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>misclick buyback

it begins
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How can valve get away with releasing awful hud just so that le redditors may fix it for them?
>That shitty position on right side of the screen for text nformations, you naturally watch left side because of minimap but now you have to watch right side for other stuff like tower/hero deaths instead which is annoying as fuck
>transparent shit under your skills, fortunately fixed by custom huds
>those ugly barely readable numbers floating above your health
>different icons have arbitrary size and most of stuff is just too small
>the main part of hud that includes stuff like your hp feels too fucking tight and when you press alt its just a chaotic shitstorm of ill placed informations
>so many things aren't flat that it makes you want to puke
>gold is barely visible
>you barely notice when you level up
>no exp counter
>mana/hp bar below your skills

3 years in development my fucking ass, some starving student would design something better in 2 hours for 50 bucks
Easily the biggest and worst fucking """feature""" of this patch, im not even mad at talents/new map/shrines, only the hud triggers the fuck out of me. The downgrade is fucking real.
Fuck you and your "friendly futuristic minimalistic design" meme
The only plus is that you buy shit faster.
Also
>release le ebin planning screen
>almost half of space on screen is taken up by your hero and fucking hat ads
thanks a lot
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>>162647818
REMAKE PLS
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>>162647735
You can also purge away his jingu glowy shit
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is there any way to use the old shop? New shop sucks ass like the rest of the new UI
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>played almost an entire game 2v3 before i realised it was poor network
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>>162647916
not when he kills you instantly the moment it pops up
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>mk is op
>46% winrate
just WALK OUT OF THE CIRCLE LMAO
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>>162647990
what is it like being sub 1k

do you try and trade hits with ursa as well?
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>>162648031
just ward his expanding monkey dick lol!
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>>162647865
It's so terrible in practical use.
Every information is hidden at the corners of the screen away from the middle (focus) or behind ALT.

It is actually so fucking bad when you have to use it..
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SWIFTENDING CARRY US PLS
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>first game of the new patch
>pick timber
>AM and SWM On enemy team.
SERIOUSLY FUCK OFF.
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>>162647990
>I CAN'T MINDLESSLY TRADE BLOWS WITH THIS 1v1 SPECIALIST PLEASE REMOVE HIM
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I just want the old UI back

Everything else about the patch is top notch
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>>162647865
>Mana/HP bar.
This is such a big mistake. It's one of the most important things in the match and its now minimized to hell and back
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NICE GAME VALVE
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NICE PATCH DOTARDS
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DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
DOTA CRASHED
>LUL
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LMAO NICE FUCKING PATCH
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anyone else have very low fps after the update? memory usage and processor are both at around 60% and i'm getting shit for fps
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GOOD JOB VALVE
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CRASHING THIS GAME
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>>162647865
HUD = Hide User Information
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>Vac+Wall crashes the game
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>Fix the UI
>Fix Monkey King balance
>make it so primary jungle camps spawn every 2 minute, secondary every 1 minutes
thoughts?
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What's the new best custom HUD ?
My Empire HUD would still be great were it not for the stupid logo being under the talent tree
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>EVERYONE CRASHED

NICE DOTA
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>Enemy pauses
>2 min pls
>Unpause and get a racks with numbers advantage
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>>162647990
That's sub 1k. I haven't played against people like that since I was a 200 hour noob.
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>>162648327
Junglers would have so much fucking farm
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Loda exposing bugs everytime huh
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>>162648304
>Dark Pact + Mask of Madness crashes the game
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>>162647865
post it on reddit please
i want it to be fixed too
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>>162648401
>>162648338
>>162648284
>>162648304
>>162648270
>>162648262
>>162648237
>>162648212
>>162648204
Patch JUST released, obviously it will have a few bugs here and there
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>>162648120
>Hero with loads of Pure damage
>Against hero with loads of magic resistance and armor
Wow, what a shitty matchup! I'd ragequit

Almost as bad as whenever I play lycan and I'm matched up against sheever
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SHADOW FIEND WiLL REACH LEVEL 20/25 AND CARRY THE GAME WITH HIS FREE 144 DAMAGE AND FREE 125 RANGE
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>>162648474
Fuck off Gabe
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>>162648483
144 damage is nothing.
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>>162648474
shouldn't you be working Mr. Valve employee?
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>>162648474
t. Icefrog
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>I didn't think about using backpack in the most obvious way that it could be used

Why is this fat fuck allowed to cast
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>>162648474
FUCK YOU! 6.XX NEVER CRASHED FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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J-GOD IS UNSTOPPABLE
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>>162647990
>Stands there and just lets monkey king hit him
>Offlane Wraith King

Congrats you played yourself
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>>162648534
t. shadow fiend
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Alliance is getting raped, holy crap
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>>162648534
>an MKB+butterfly is nothing
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>>162648652
our guy walking all over them
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>New UI doesn't show which team is which during pro matches
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>Vacuum Wall disconnetcs the enemy team
I can't help but think this isn't balanced
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>Slark was nerfed
-d2g
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Holy shit what did they do to Roshan, what a garbage spot. Are we literally league now? Did icefrog leave or somthing?
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FIX THE FUCKING FPS REEEEEE
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>>162647865
What are you faggots talking about
old hud was clunky garbage but suddenly everyone wants it again
>all of this space obstructed by shitty bars that serve no purpose
no thanks
new hud is great just gonna get used to it
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I SWEAR TO GOD

THIS SHITTY GREEN FILTER WHEN YOU DIE IS THE MOST RETARDED CRAP EVER
IT FUCKS UP VISAGE AND SUMMON HEROES AS WELL BECAUSE IF YOU DIE AND TRY TO DO CONTROL SOMETHING AFTER DYING THIS GREEN SHIT KEEPS REFRESHING
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>>162648817
turn on overclock if you havent already
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>>162648769
>gets pretty good talents and decent to situationally op scepter
>nerfed
literally no one said that
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>complain about new patch and changes
>lose a game
>play my strongest hero
>stomp mid
>solo rosh
>win game
>feels just like old dota

yeah i guess its not that bad
Only thing i trully hate is that pop up when you click on other heroes
Just bring it back like it used to be, i can't watch my hero and theirs at the same time anyway

also give me option to switch side for that kill/rune announcer shit on the right.
i want it back to the left
i'm not a fucking arab, i read from left
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>>162648923
>just kill your cpu if you fuck something up senpai
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>mystic snake targets ancients, steals full mana off them and deals pure damage which isn't reduced by their 70% magic resistance

is jungle medusa back??
also bloodseeker's blood rite
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>>162648914
HOLY SHIT JUST LIKE IN LEG OF LEGND BUT IN GREEN
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>>162648817
>>162648923
>PC gamers in 2016
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>>162648948
You can disable that popup when clicking enemy. Its in options. But its gonna trigger you how hud resizes every time you click something else.
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>time for comfy esports
>can't even see team names ingame
>can't even see cs or stats when clicking a player

what the FUCK was valve thinking for real
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>>162648796
Remember when they changed roshan spot a couple years ago and everyone was sperging and saying ded game?
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>>162648923
>VALVE ARE INCOMPETENT LAZY FUCKS
>LMAO NO PB JUST OVERCLOCK EVERYTHING TO FIX IT

HOW ABOUT THEY DO THEIR JOB CORRECTLY HOLY SHIT
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>>162648914
disable it on options u shit
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>>162648978
YAH BITCH YOU PLAYING DOTA USING YOUR X BONE???
OR PRETTY SHIT 4 ?
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i don't know if this was changed with 7.00 or if it's been like that since a previous patch (haven't used the feature in a while), but aren't builds created in dota2[.]com/workshop/builds supposed to show up here? how come I can see other peoples guides but not my own?

>>162647407
"dota_chat_mute_all 1" in console
yw newfriendo
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>>162649046
can it resize itself into something thats not for ants?
would be nice
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>>162649042
Why do you think that we value opinion of this cuck? He had his own little meltdown after Trump got elected, stop forcing "xmike = our guy" meme, he's a fat loser.
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>>162648914
>What is options??
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>>162648796
Not to mention the runes now thats just hilarious. Think I'm gonna fuck off back to W3.
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>both radiant and dire has a shrine close to roshan
>shrines can only be destroyed when all tier 2s has been as well
>effectively balancing the importance of the offlane/safelane on each side
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http://store.steampowered.com/news/8116/
http://store.steampowered.com/news/8116/

>Dota 2 Update - December 13, 2016
>7.00b:
>* Boundless Strike critical strike from 200% to 175%
>* Tree Dance cast range from 1000 to 400/600/800/1000
>* Primal Spring damage from 100/180/260/340 to 75/150/225/300
>* Primal Spring slow from 40/50/60/70% to 20/30/40/50%
>* Jinju Mastery bonus damage from 80/120/160/200 to 40/80/120/160
>* Jinju Mastery lifesteal from 20/30/40/50% to 25%
>* Jinju Mastery is now a magic damage instance and will not critically strike with Boundless Strike
>* Jinju Mastery now has a charge duration of 30 seconds on Monkey King
>* Mischief no longer fools towers, the fountain or roshan.
>* Mischief courier speed from 350 to 200
>* Wukong's Command soldier damage from 100% of Monkey King's attacks to 75%
>* Wukong's Command soldiers now share cooldowns with item based abilities like Basher with Monkey King
>* Wukong's Command mana cost from 100 to 175/200/225
>* Wukong's Command duration from 13/14/15 to 7/9/11
>* Nature's Guise stun duration from 1/1.4/1.8/2.2 to 0.4/0.9/1.2/1.5
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>Alliance lies to get the game remade after they fuck up
>Still lose to literal whos
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>>162649205
EIGHT
ONE
ONE
SIX
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>>162649178
>both bases have shitload of shrines
>enjoy trying to push hg now
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>>162647464
STOP DRAWING HER WRONG.
SHE HAS SOME KIND OF A COLLAR. THE BLACK PART OF THE HEAD EXTENDS TO THE NECK.

WRONG: >>162647464 >>>/aco/1055943
CORRECT: >>>/aco/1056049 >>>/aco/1055946 >>>/aco/1055967
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>>162649129

hahahahah politics!!!!!!
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I feel like i have zero map awarness now because I DONT KNOW WHATS FUCKING HAPPENING WHERE THE FUCK AM I WHERE DO PEOPLE EVEN WALK NOW HOW DO I WARD
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Guys
Guys.

I have one question.
Why did they have to redesign this game to reborn/700 style from old sub-reborn fairy tail fantasy artstyle and HUD?
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>>162649258
When in doubt just ward the rivers
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NOT THIS SOON BITCH

THEY HAVE TO FUCKING SELL ARCANA FIRST
BITCH

FUCKING VALVE DRONE SHT
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>tfw played a game of Naga carry as my first game on the new patch
holy shit what a fucking mistake that was
80 minutes of constant stress and anxiety

we still won in the end but oh my goodness that was terrible on my psyche
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>>162649324
what talents did you get
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>>162649367
The health, evasion, agi and +1 mirror image.
Seems like the only way to go.
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I CAME BACK FROM THE GROCERIES AND THE FPS AREN'T FIXED
WHAT THE FUCK
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>alliance in charge of patch notes
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erry single time
you guys find some autistic thing to sexualise that isn't sexy
why dont people just enjoy some pretty faces with a nice bum and tiddays anymore?
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Why did they not go for the 'shrine' :^)
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>>162649464
yeah but monkey king got fixed
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>>162647865
ye its garbage
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>>162649046
oh thanks m8
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKEcLZ3lNE

I'm from 2013, guys. Time machine works only for 5 minutes, so enlighten me quickly about the future Dota.
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>sf went for the 15% evasion
what a retard lol!
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I outfarmed our Ursa being rubic wihtout GPM talent. He was braindead.
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>>162649471
I've had to remind people to kill the shrines in a couple of games now, I'm not surprised even pros wouldn't remember
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>>162649479
but ilexa has a pretty face
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>>162649129
He ploughed RTZ's mum good and proper anon
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So who gets to use Shrines?
Offlaner when he gets his regen harassed away and has to either shrine or go back to well?
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>>162649584
Thought this was Honey Select at a glance.
Jesus christ.
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>>162649615
she doesnt have a face
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>>162649659
jungler gets both shrines and both bounty runes so he can farm his 6 minute boots of travel
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>first game since new patch
>only retarded third world subhumans

holy hell nobody from the west plays this trash game right?
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GUYS

WHY DID THEY CHANGE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF DOTA 2 ARTSTYLE AT ALL

IT WAS LITERALLY A COMFY FAIRY TAIL FANTASY GAME WITH A LOT OF DETAILS AND CUTE THINGIES

NOW ITS JUST A SILVER METALLIC AND RAW NUMBERS

DO YOU EVEN CONSIDER IT A GOOD THING
NEED HONEST REPLIES PLS
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>>162649769
english speaking white people stopped playing back in 2013
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>>162649780
why is everything so fucking bright
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>>162649780
I unironically miss HoN's overly edgy and gritty artstyle.
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>constant memefighting
>literally everybody and their mother can somehow still reach level 25
>gold is raining down from the skies each minute

The game is literally an eternal clownfest now. Shitty casual mobile game.

What now dotards?
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>>162649834
yea I know but god.
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>>162649080
pls respond
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>>162649769
People play overwatch you dumbass
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>>162649780
i miss how dark the old doter 2 was
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>>162649894
this Alliance game says otherwise
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i did this yesterday but i forgot to post it
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>>162649886
i miss deadwood
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>>162649970
Golden Joystick Awards 2016
Best Original Game
Best Multiplayer Game
Best Gaming Moment
PC Game of the Year
Competitive Game of the Year

The Game Awards 2016
Game of the Year
Best Game Direction
Best Multiplayer
ESports Game of the Year
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>>162647482
You're free now, how does it feel?

It felt great for me, thanks Valve.
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How do you guys even function in life if you can't handle some change?!
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>Gulag says "Necro will be useless"
>pick Necro
>he's better than he's ever been
Umm, dotards?
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>>162650086
kawaii
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>balda
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>>162650086
holy shit i fucked it up im gonna have to fix that
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>>162650086
why is she blushing?
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>>162649692
you don't know what you're talking about
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im the only one who doesnt use dotabuff and keeps his info private?
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>slark is lvl 25
slark is lvl 25
>slark is lvl 25
slark is lvl 25
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Why is my ping on EU west and east over 90, they used to be below 30. I have 15 ping on russian servers. What the fuck is happening, is Valve trying to turn me into a cyka
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Seems like this patch might finally kill the careers of some of the old guard
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>>162650290
>living in europe

lol
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>>162650230
face
eyes
mouth
nose

shitty treant loli
eyes
????
????
case closed faggit you just fap to it because you can self insert whatever attributes you want
and I can respect that
just dont be in denial about it
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>>162650153
i wanna stick my dick into her ear
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>>162650259
you mean because youre embarrassed that youre bad and have to pretend like you arent and dont want anyone too see how many games you play or your abysmmal winrate?

no, but the only people I know who dont are the above so you probably are too you insecure little faggot
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>>162650290
I've never played a videogame with my ping below 80.
Embrace it.
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>>162647865
>you naturally watch left side because of minimap
switch the minimap to the right then? I've played with right side minimap forever, don't know how you can play with the default left
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>>162650304
Good. Professional video games are a joke and the quicker these degenerates become homeless the better.
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>>162650108
Has it been long enough that we can look back on HoN fondly yet?

Because I really preferred some of their hero designs over DotA's in particular Pharaoh, Flint BeastWood, Pestilence, Sand Wraith, Plague Rider, Bubbles and Blacksmith are massive improvements.
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>>162650304
grinding monkeys BTFO
place for innovator

faction_middle-east when
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What was the back that broke the camel for you?

>jungle completely changed
>shitty objectives like bounty runes in it like runes and shrines
>can't pull creep as a support like you used to
>talents and new levelup throw away any semblance of strategy, everyone want the ebin level 20, 25 changes
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>>162650290
pro tip, there are less ruski on ruski servers.
the ruski on ruski servers also speak better english and are better players than other ruski
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>>162650290
yes
now go bliet bliet someone in the face
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GUYS WHY IS SNIPER SO EDGY LOOKING?
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I WARNED YOU ABOUT RAW ATTACK SPEED FOR ILLUSIONS BRO

I TOLD YOU DOG
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>games will be faster
-DEE TOO GEE
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>>162650376
nah its a vidya its impossible to be emberrassed about it and i only play unranked anyway
i just dont like sharing my info dunno
with all the projecting you seem insecure as fuck tho
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What the fuc is this clock doing
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REMEMBER WHEN THAT WARLOCK HAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE GAME FOR CHANGING HIS APPEARANCE TOO MUCH?

WHO IS THIS HERO, DOTARDS????
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>>162650125
fucking right
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>loda stuck on the highground like a cuck watching his team die
nostalgic desu
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this is game is a pile of shit now.
when will valve give us the option to play a legecy version?
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>>162650583
>projecting

Mine is public like I said. The only people I know who hide theirs or turn theirs off when they lose are insecure little faggots and it is pathetic
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THE SHRINES

I'M AN ANALYST NOW

KILL THE SHRINES
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>>162650617
Tyrael
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Why did they nerf jungle camp spawns?
Farming is shit now.
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>>162650617
we still dont know
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OUTPLAYED BY FUCKING SHRINES
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>>162650617
i dont remember, pics?
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>>162650617
Why did they take away dragon knight's shield?
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>>162650617
I actually had no fucking idea until I recognized the hand.
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>>162650617

I honestly have no idea, I'm betting yurnero by his stance
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>>162650694
Because Blink+LC was fucking ridiculous in pubs.
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>>162648474
It isn't even just bugs, there's some serious oversights (like not showing attributes at all times on the HUD) that can only be explained by the development team being awful or them having further, very undesirable plans for the game.

>>162648796
>Did icefrog leave or somthing?
I think it's possible that he mostly retired. Fair enough, I''d understand wanting a change after over ten years of wokring on the same game.

Consider this for a second: the UI doesn't display very important elements, and somehow the guy who's been working on Dota for several years didn't catch it before release.
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I have an issue with character's personality and identity this patch.
Let me explain.

Previously we had evasion or magic resistance as a unique mechs for some heroes. This thing made them special, they didnt have to play around specific artifacts and so on. And these thingies were connected to character itself, its personality and so on. PA is sneaky and shes assassin so she has cool evasion. Antimage is anti mage so hes resistant to magic.

Now we have talents - and this cute "logic" kinda breaks. medusa can pick evasion. What's the logic behind this? My autistic mind has no explanation for this. Or random magic resistance buffs to supports. Like, why would Enigma be magic resistat on his own? It just breaks my mind. I know, it kinda balances weaknessess of these heroes, but heroes now feel more like a running numbers rather than a Heroes with unique design.

By the way, icons and portrait became smaller so its harded to relate to hero now. And when hes silenced or stunned it blurres and so on.

Thoughts?
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>>162650617
they also removed some items for Kunkka if i remember

and those were some legit items
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>>162650680
okay nerd calm down
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my eyes hurt after this shitty UI holy fuck
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>>162650771
the only way to nerf LC jungle is to nerf jungling entirely?
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>>162650804
>sneaky snek has evasion
makes sense to me bruh
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>>162650617
That's Juggernaut, but where the hell is his bone mask? I demand an explanition Valve, and a refund
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>Alliance
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Watching tier 3 dota is so boring. And considering how unaccustumed everyone is to this patch it's more like tier 4. Might as well watch a pub
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>>162650771
LC is even better now imo
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>DUDE DOTA IS NOW INSANE AND EPIC BIG ATTACK NUMBERS AND LEVELS
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>Alliance
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skill build and item progression for a support visage?
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>>162650887
She was simply a symptom, it was far to easy to farm yourself a storm in the old jungle and the only way for the enemy to counter you was to invest a ridiculous amount of resources.
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>>162647865
how is your wifes son
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BORING AS FUCK
A LUL IANCE
MAY AS WELL SWITCH TO OVERWATCH

ATLEAST THE Y HAVE BETTE WAIFU
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>>162650887
LC is and always has been a strong laner. How is this a nerf. Sub 3k games don't count because who cares about them
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>>162650945
Why not
By the way shes not only sneaky snek, shes a veil sister or something, im totally ok with that
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WHEN DID HE GET OUT?
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>>162651085
Ikr!!! XD
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>>162651040
>support Visage

He's a carry now my dude.
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How does it feel to finally watch the game become casual as fuck?
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alright what's my new game to be a gamewatcher of

dota looks so garbage now
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>>162650483
-The new HUD is trash, targeted at 2ks and you don't even have the option to revert to the old one.
-Talents are insanely stupid and make the game ridiculously snowbally.
-Meepo nerfs (although now he's better against some very slippery heroes like Storm Spirit)
-Runes were moved into the team jungles, making them team objectives instead of "neutral" objectives that encouraged confrontation between the teams.
-Shrines being indestructible until all the t2s are down means that until a team loses all their towers they still have map control over their side of the jungle (this could be fixed by at making it so you need to destroy the two adjacent t2s to make them vulnerable)

I also don't know how I feel about healing being so plentiful outside of the base now, and about the backpack.
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WHEN DOES KELLY TAKE HER DAUGHTER AND LEAVE LULDA? THATS LITERALLY ALL I'VE FOLLOWED DOTA FOR SINCE ITS BEGINNING
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>>162650804

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND EAT MY SHIT WITH BOTH HANDS

WHY ARE YOU JUST USING ONE HAND?

I WANT YOU TO EAT MY SHIT WITH BOTH FUCKING HANDS LIKE THE GOOD SHIT EATING BOY YOU ARE

AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT I WANT YOU TO SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY ON THESE DECORATIVE PLATES FOR ME TO SERVE YOU MORE SHIT. NOW BUY THIS $40 PLATTER FULL OF SHIT, YOU LIKE IT HUH?

YEAH YOU LOVE IT

AND YOU WILL KEEP LOVING IT

YEAH THAT'S THE STUFF

GOOD BOY
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>>162651085
I agree with this
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Why didn't they add WE WUZ KANGS to the captains mode.
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Sven is still autowin mode
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>>162651209
>casual

None of the people calling the game casual managed to explain why it is so. let's see if you're one of the smart cookies.
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>>162651256
>The new HUD is trash, targeted at 2ks and you don't even have the option to revert to the old one.


just wear this frendio and you will have the same result :^)
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>MK against Tinker
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Why are people so salty that supports get to do shit now? People honestly don't remember how poor supports use to be. Like you were literal fodder tier and you would be lucky to get mana boots by the 20 min mark in the past.

It honestly felt like cores were the only ones having any real fun. Now supporting doesn't feel like AIDS or like you are just fodder dying for a core.

Everyone has a chance to shine now. People say cores are weak early but most cores wreck most supports early.
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This caster is so bad, not even just the new patch so he might not know some shit, I mean his basic casting is awful.
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>>162651040
Max w and then do literally anything, I went crazy splitting the points between q and e after
Medallion Aghs crest then anything, I like AC or deso or Dagon or shiva or octameme or refresher
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>>162650483

>it's basically -apem dota

I'm doneso
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>>162651371
Supports lose games and carries win games.
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>>162651339
They literally highlighted "being able to rank up spells in one click" as a big pro of the new HUD, you can keep your sad attempts at wit to yourself.
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>>162651209
Disgusting, how can people even defend this shit?

Should've just been a separate game mode or something.
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that's it
I'm sick of this HUD
not playing until it's fixed
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>try getting into this game
>join server
>pick tidehunter because he looks cool
>friend tell me to go "offlane"
>oh okay, that's the top
>smack the little enemy fuckers when they get low health for money
>get to the tower thing, figure maybe i should back off a little
>suddenly a sniper and some other fucker out of the blue
>die
>go back, decide to keep my distance even more
>purple fucker appears behind me
>die again
>kicked for feeding
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>>162651395
what am i supposed to do when i reach lvl 6? farm the jungle till I reach lvl 10?
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>>162651040
>>162651395
also other guy is right, core visage > support visage now because he wants levels and farm to kill with and he can actually survive a core role now
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Why are you guys playing other heroes instead of KING? He's a new hero. Didn't you notice you faggots?
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>>162651439
>implying -apem wasn't good

The only thing better was -arem
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>>162651548
>join server
>kicked
3/10
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Does the death timer seem longer or is it just me.
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>>162651582
his meme name is KANG
keep ur meme game up son
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>game is now -apem

DOTARDS???
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>>162651461
ok? You can still level up without having to click so what is even the relevance of this?

if they add the hero stats by default, and give scaling for the people who are apparently more blind than me someone who is literally going blind, the new hud is infinetaly better than the old one
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>>162651336
not him but

>regen is not an issue like in the "old" days, just go to a shrine, pick yourself a bounty rune while you are at it
>removed the stack and pulling mechanic
>talents that give exp/bonus, rubberbanding the game
>gimick shit like triple mirana arrow or sniper last talent don't require much talent except press button for ebin damage and team disruption
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>>162651563
Grab a smoke and gank. You have insane damage until 60 minutes. Kill, push, end fast.
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>king literally 3 shots you at level 2
fair and balanced
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>>162651616

it was fun for a while, but everyone would've lost their shit back in the day if regular dota became just -apem with no chance of playing the regular mode.

Dumbass.
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>>162651371
SP IN THIS GAME IS LIKE A FKING SLAVE

THAT WHY THERE ARE THOUSAND OF RULE34 DOTA2 WHERE THE GIRL IS A FUCKING SLUTSLAVE
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>>162651371
That's what made the game complex.
As a support you should be able to find something from the situation where you dont have anything at all.
When you can afk like this version and still get items you want the game becomes too casual and just not challenging to play
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>>162651738
>he can't kill anyone at 40 mins
That's how he's balanced.
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>>162651727
>>removed the stack and pulling mechanic

1/10
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The new jungle is gonna take some getting use to also the fact that offlaners have a fucking free shrine and regen right next to them is a god send for Timber spammers like me.

I still don't like the shop UI.
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>>162651727
>can't stack
nice fucking meme
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>>162651865
Go on. Afk in a match as a support in this patch and tell me how good you shined later. I'm waiting.
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>>162651894
Yeah not in your games where people are unable to capitalize on an early lead. He's broken as fuck you shitter
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reminder that girls are for faggots
real men jerk off to sick rampages
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This new HUD is fucking terrible.
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I miss laning
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A mobile game is less casual than dota now.
This game is fucking dead.
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7.00 is a real bag of neuron stimulation
Take for example, this in game screenshot and the thoughts I could have while experiencing it firsthand
Am i thinking of the new shrine and how offlaners got a buff?
Am I thinking of how its nice to have 4 bounties for each team to split and steal?
Am i thinking of the optimal talents to take to counter them while having fun with this new experience to my favorite hero?
Am I thinking of how absolutely shit the UI is and how I miss certain functionality?
In fact, I am thinking of none of these things
The only thought that could possibly even remotely relate to the current patch is the fact that we now have 2 jungles
Why am i thinking that?
Well, with a lane pushed in with rax down, and none of us currently farming ANY of these jungle camps, our AM still decides to farm THIER jungle riGHt aftER he haS THe buYBACk PENalty OH MY GOD YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER 40 MINUTES OF GANKING AND MAKING SPACE FOR YOUR AUTISTIC ASS AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME BY GROWING YOUR BALLS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE GAME TO STEAL THEIR JUNGLE WHEN THEIR ENTIRE TEAM CAN COME OUT OF NOWHERE AND FUCK YOU UP
FUCKING EARLY GAME YOU GET SCARED OF A SOLO BOUNTY
MID GAME YOU STAND IN THE TREES AND WAIT FOR A RAZOR IM CHARGING TO TP OUT INSTEAD OF USING YOUR OWN ABYSSAL
LATE GAME YOU DECIDE TO "SPLITPUSH" BY BACKING EVERY 3 SECONDS WHEN WE'RE 5V4 TEAMFIGHTING IN THE OPPOSITE LANE BECAUSE YOU IMAGINE ITS 5V8 WITH 3 HEROES DEFENDING

WHO GIVES A SINGLE FUCK ABOUT TALENTS OR THE UI OR XP CHANGES THIS GAME ISNT SHIT BECAUSE OF VALVE, ITS SHIT BECAUSE OF SHIT PLAYERS FUCK YOU TO THINK I ACTUALLY SAW YOU TYPE ORDERS TO US WHILE WE'RE DOMINATING THEM AND YOU'RE TOO FUCKING WEAK TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THANK BLINK IN AND KILLSTEAL A SOLO HERO
I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT PATCH IT IS I JUST KNOW THIS SHITTER WAS ALWAYS A SHITTER AND WILL ALWAYS KEEP ME IN THIS FUCKING BRACKET RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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>>162651993
You can literally stack zero camps and just roam around mindlessly throwing skills and you will eventually get huge net worth just because towers and assist gold bounties are insanes
+ RUNES
+ FREE (free) gold and exp talents
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I miss jungling.
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>>162649205
I can't even imagine all the work you put into this "satirical" little post only to try and ruse people you don't even know on a japanese robotic hentai webforum.
Get a life
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>>162652092
There is literally 0 laning in the game anymore and you should pick heroes that fight from level 2 onwards.
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>>162651724
It, along with things like having an "upgrade to flying courier" button or hiding primary attributes when not pressing alt, shows who their target audience was with the 7.00 update.

And no the new HUD isn't infinitely better or even any better because it's smaller, this isn't an FPS where the main screen is your primary source of information, I'm tired of that retarded Reddit-tier argument popping up constantly.
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What's the gist of all the bounty runes, I don't even think its needed desu.
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>>162652092
we want the hero brawler 25 minute games audience
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>>162647865
You naturally watch the left side of the map, so they put the new lock on bar there, which they assume you will use, and will probably not support disabling it at some point
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>>162652170
The attribute display is also bugged and doesn't work.
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>>162652169
yeah i think im done
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I miss farming desu. Fuck this anti-farming update.
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i miss dota
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>>162652170
>better or even any better because it's smaller, this isn't an FPS where the main screen is your primary source of information, I'm

Its complete horseshit to spread information to each corner of the screen (especially bad the wider your monitor is) and complete and utter bollocks to hide important information to ALT only.

ITs GARBAGE
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>>162652104
autism
>>
>Legion Q does nearly 500 damage if it hits only 2 heroes
for what reason did they need to buff it even further
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>>162652245
it's FREE gold and exp, no risk involved, just click the jungle sport for FREE shit
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>>162652115
Why lie tho? You could do literally that in previous patches too. Minus the runes on jungle.
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>>162652294
>>162652291
>>162652280
cringe.

Literally league babies crying they can't stick to one style of Dota.

cringey cunts.
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>>162652036

>He's broken as fuck you shitter
>sub 50 winrate in every mmr bracket
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>>162652104
aghs would save him
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>>162652169
>We want to be LoL
But why? Everything was going so well.
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>>162652421
NICE SUB 20 MIN DEATH BALL.
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>>162649060
>Fall down on the street
>land facefirst into dogshit that no one cleaned up
>"REE why aren't people cleaning their shit, they need to do their job!"
>Continue to roll around in the shit until someone comes and cleans it up a week later
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>>162652421
ive been complaining about how the laning phase has become irrelevant for a long fucking time m8

and this patch has to be the worst offender by far
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>>162652291
I miss tri lanes. I miss stacking and pulling. I miss tactical dota.
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>>162652092

Laning and last hitting is a toxic archaic mechanic that remains just to please the wc3 oldfags. In fact last hitting is a toxic and outdated mechanic. No one plays Dota to spend 20 minutes clicking against a matchine, it's just barbaric and stupid. When will last-hitting creeps get removed? I play for action filled teamfights not autistic farming.

There should be multiple bounty spawn sites and have heroes brawl for the farm all the time until someone comes out with superior endgame.
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>>162652374
BECAUSE DID YOU SEE THAT PRESS Q AND YOU MELTED THE TEAM OMG OMG
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>>162651894
Except he can, Bulldog was still easily killing most of the carries by abusing the itemization of echo saber, shadowblade, and all the other damage items all the way into the end game. Even when he and his team fed tons of kills to the enemy team.
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>>162652170
>people are complaining about the "upgrade courier" button

Holy shit you autists will find a reason to complain about anything.
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best waifu coming thru
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>>162652170
>along with things like having an "upgrade to flying courier" button

actually fucking irrelavtn holy fuck this autism

>hiding primary attributes when not pressing alt

yes I said this needed chaning

>shows who their target audience was with the 7.00 update.

Which is most likely multiple degrees of people


>And no the new HUD isn't infinitely better or even any better because it's smaller,

it literally is, the old UI used completely wasted space for just some fucking aesthetic theme. I have 0 (Z E R O) issue with reading the new UI and comprehending info and i am LITERALLY GOING BLIND

I don't feel like i am playing rough a fucking letter box anymore, and the worst esportts UI in history is finally dead
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>he thinks his 2k mmr opinion matters
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>people complaining about 24/7 fights dota
>inb4 some team finds out how to turtle and rice again to choke out level two power spike ganking
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>>162652092
i heard next patch theyre going to remove creeps entirely so we can just have ebin hero brawls all game

cheers
>>
WHO
>TECHIES
HERE?
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>>162649129
>Literally 100k hours played
>No natural talent so you skillcapped as a tier 2 player who's high point was to make it to TI in the shit Liquid team back when everyone were shit
I guess people respect him because he's been along for so long, but he has nothing of value to add. He's like the Bulba of offlane, but with Bulba has more game knowledge and Mike has more mechanical skill
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EE getting robbed is nice and all that but I was looking forward to seeing him sperg out about 7.00
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>>162652580
this lmao
never underestimate autist pros like EE finding more ways to rice
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>>162652478
You talking about 6.87? That was a shit patch
>>
I don't get wny everyone's so bumbefuddled about 7.00, so far aside from Valve's complimentary bugs and shit this patch has been great.
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>attack damage armor and speed is the only stats shown
I feel it
I can feel it coming
Valve gets rid of str agi and int and makes it all just simple stats
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>>162652421
Literally a literal literary illiterate.
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>>162652645
>Arteezy still hasn't talked about it.
I WANT TO SEE HIS REALLY PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE.

Also none of your complaints even fucking matter, Only thing that matters is Comp dota.
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>>162652703
I'm taking about this patch. It has more in common with 6.84 than 6.80. Fuck this memefight anti farming patch.
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Is the WC3 scene still legit?

I may not have item hotkeys but still....
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Now that the dust hasn't settled, when do you think they're going to add currency which you recieve for playing games and which you can use to purchase bonuses in-game?
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>>162652245
They were implemented to remove the random element from mid of having to guess which side the rune spawned on. But I guess that doesn't matter anymore and now they're just here to bloat gold and exp gain
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What are the pros saying about the patch?

I don't follow social media or browse reddit.
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Man, the game intro screen looks so shit. Is this street fighter or Dota?
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>>162652381
It was a trend for last 3 or 4 patches, ur correct. But now Valve is literally screaming "fuck laning we dont want our game to be skill-based anymore, just run around and fight"
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>no laning phase
>hero brawl
>now you can be half AFK and still get networth XD
>shrines
>4 bounties

see you guys in 3rd strike
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>>162652812
theyre trying to copy all the other shitty mobas.

i dont know who the fuck is taking over dota at valve but theyre pissing me off.
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>>162652760
>7.00
>anti farming
All games I played were 40+ min.
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>>162652580
People who complain about that are literally 2k redditors bitter about change just for changes sake

Every time theres a big balance patch, the first weeks are just dumb manfight dota because no one knows whats good. That's why Wraith King nomrally has a good winrate at the start of every patch, because he can just teamfight with low risk and has a stun.

This patch will probably turn out to be actual dota with some ricing, breaking the HOTS le always teamfight meta cycle
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>>162652812
That's literally the best part of the patch you mongloid twat.
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>>162652827
See you tomorrow.
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>>162652812
Dota fighter :D

EPIC DIRE VS RADIANT
BOOM XD

Are you saying it doesn't look cool? Because it does. It's one of the only things I like about this anti-farming patch.
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>>162652760
>he gives up
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>>162652308
What you're saying is correct, but you misunderstand me. I'm talking about the common complaint that the old HUD was horrible because it blocked a non-negligible portion of the game camera. This is a complaint that might have some legitimacy in an FPS (where what you see on the game camera is indeed your main source of information and game awareness, along with sounds of course), but in Dota and most RTS games, it's actually the minimap that tells you most of what you need to know. The main camera should be positioned in such a way that it allows you perform micro tasks (e.g. last hitting). One argument that is less trivial is that the main camera is the only thing that allows you to see things like Mirana's arrow, but I'd argue that it has never been a problem with proper camera positioning.
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so icefrog is dead right?
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how can i fix the low fps
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>>162649780
I dont like how they dumped the artstyle too.

Minimalism claims yet anotehr victim.
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>>162652763

you do actually. I just played some wc3 and while it was kinda hard to get used to chicken and shops it was pretty fun and people definitely know their shit there, it's like only the hardcore fans stayed there so there's like no newbies
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>>162652987
Yes.

>>162653002
Disable everything
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>2k subhumans think they understand the meta
already
REMINDER THAT THE GULAG IS ALWAYS WRONG
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>>162652916
>antifarming patch
Whats this meme? Just because people are doing dumb teamfighting like in the start of every patch, you think its a teamfight patch? After we've had dumb lol teamfight patches like 5 times in a row now.

This patch will probably turn out to be more about farming with hg buffed and kills nerfed
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>play sf
>45 minute game
>didn't checked my cs entire game because i forgot you have to press alt now
>apparently its 500
where do these "its anti farm patch" shitters are coming from? If you arent at least 4k you shouldn't be allowed to talk about balance you cucks
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COME HOME WHITE MAN

http://www.dota-utilities.com/

http://www.dota-utilities.com/
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When I press enter in dota the chat starts at the top instead of the bottom.

What the fuck? Anyone had this problem??!

I have to scroll all the way down every time I wanna read the last chat.
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>>162653067
We've been correct on multiple occasions, many of which are documented
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>>162653067
Lets start listing what the morons in this thread were wrong about

>You always rushed Refresher on Tide after blink.
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is my boy Necrophos finally good?

>>162653014
the UI looks like it was made by a thick-rimmed glasses wearing ginger-bearded graphics design nu-male from Apple
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>>162652892
I'm sure 90% of the faggots saying "laning phase is gone" have no idea of what's they're talking about. If anything laning is more important now since jungle got nerfed and kills give slightly less gold/xp.
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Damn you're all idiots. Of course everybody is doing stupid shit at the start of the patch and manfighting like monkeys, people want to test out the new 25 talents. The only way to do that is to clown around a fuckton and artificially inflate exp/gold gain.
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>>162652905

AGREED 100% FELLOW REDDITOR.

Although, if you don't mind my good sir gentleman & scholar, I would like to add a dubstep song to it by the likes of skrillaz or calvin harris.

Giff wub wub volvo!

Edit1: wow, first gold ever, thank you kind stranger.

Edit2: frontpage of reddit! we did it!
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>>162653067
>>162653117
>2k redditors think they can talk about the meta during the first weeks of the patch
It's just retards hitting eachother because they don't know what to do, these first weeks mean nothing metawise

>>162653150
you rushed blink on tide to use your ult that hits the whole screen
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>>162653014
>socialize
if i click this button will i die
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>>162652763
I want to know this too where do people usually play?
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>>162653109
hello there ! i was your support that game! i got level 25 cause of all the runes spawning all over and my talents giving me free gold and exp, and the shrine healing me when i was gonna die XD!

good game dood! you were sikk
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>7 people my first game of the patch had 100+ cs.
>game time was 41 minutes.

These cringey laning is dead meme are pathetic.
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>>162653150
>slark is op
>VP will win Boston
>Ahgs Refresher Luna is viable
>Pugna is the Alch counter
-d2g
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>>162652814
And thats bad? Farming endlessly and grinding items is skilled? You main carriles do you??
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ARTOUR IS STREM BOYYYSSS!!
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>>162652381
DO NOT ARGUE WITH RETARDS LIKE THIS
they ignore facts and they just talk about irrelevant retardation
supports have been buffed for fucking ever and if you deny that they get a ton of gold for just existing then you are a retard
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>>162653014
>Skeleton King
>Bananamancer
:'(
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>>162653307
i was taking every single shrine and bounty to cuck enemy mid who didn't realize its a thing now
also our supports were level 21 and 23 before the game ended
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What that hero on sentinel side lmao
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>People still keep standing there man-fighting the MK then get destroyed and make the fight 100000x more harder than it has to be.

How do you not understand the concept that you kite and stun him? Don't stand there having an auto-attack match. You will fucking lose.

Also wish people would stop picking techies and being useless. This patch is already giving me a headache.
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>>162653241
Oh man I remember the good old garena days. No idea about now.
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I want to play WEWUZKANGS but someone else always instapicks him.
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>>162653326

why would you lie in the gulag?

do you get off by doing it?
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>>162653326
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>>162653286
Who?
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>>162653286

Roflmao the game will be at HotS-Dead level in a year when everyone will get burn out.
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>>162649129
what meltdown? nothing on his twitter and who the fuck watches his stream.

I think ur thinking of swindle
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>>162653481
instapick him by spamming the console command
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>>162653286
>playing overshit

I mean, I might give it a try once I can buy blizzard shit with my wow gold but until then fuck that.
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>>162653323

>upheaval is warlocks best skill
>soul ring wand arcane boots is better than bloodstone on timber
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>>162652472
>no laning in a video game where laning is 90% of the video game
lol
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>>162652553
I'd rather have autism than being unable to understand basic fucking argument, m'dude.

Having an "upgrade to flying courier" button is significant and very revelatory because it's something you almost never need more than once in your game, and that any support above 3k mmr was aware of. It's the very basics of game timings.

>>162652564
>yes I said this needed chaning
I don't give a single shit about that you say, because I don't care about you. Hiding primary attributes was an *intentional* decision on their part, and that says a lot about what they're going for with the new UI.

Please go blind faster, spare us your shitty posts.
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>>162653286

if I wanted to play badTF2 i'd literally just play TF2 matchmaking.
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>Visage is free MMR again

Enjoy your loss streak non-visage players.
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>>162653567
>tfw I never have to give those Jews another cent
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>>162652914
You gonna switch as well?
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Why do people say Laning is where the skill is at but not fighting? As a support what am I supposed to do? Just let the enemy hero farm his lane? Why is "fighting" considered negative?
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When do we get the black king?
We have the monkey kang now.
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Why did icefrog ruined the jungle by placing random trees that obstruct the vision in every single way?
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The Shrines gives way too much of an advantage to the team that are ahead in towers.
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>>162653689
Buff to Techies and Treant.
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>tfw you have a quarry to settle
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>>162653689
>icefrog

kek
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>>162653689
icefrog is dead
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>>162653481
dota_select_hero npc_dota_hero_monkey_king
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>>162653673

well you have stacking and shit, but now it's halved to half
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it's only been one day but I've already figured out the meta guys ama
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MY EYES ARE GETTING FUCKING HURT FROM TRYING TO WATCH THIS SHIT HUD FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>162653750
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>>162653785
whats the meta
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>>162653545
Like league?
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>>162653759
Why does this command say npc? Does it mean a bot will play KANG for me?
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>>162653554
Talent trees are very fun. Slark lifesteal boosts my gameplay and additional 3 seconds on lash are balanced.
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>>162653126

pls respond
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>>162651727
Holy shit what caliber of retard is it that posts in these fucking generals.

Have you even played the patch? Seen the map? Watched any dota? Have you even fucking read anything?

Fuck, there are actually MORE pulls now.
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>>162653837
it's an AM patch
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>Caster suprised how slardar has dagger so fast
>when there are shrines for the heal
>when there are bounty runes

LMAO
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xpm and passive gpm need nerfing.
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>five minute blink on slardar

what the fuck icefrog
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[blog]
Take a deep breath and let's use our imaginations for a bit. Bear with me for this. Imagine that video games are houses, all located in this special neighborhood called Funland. People come and visit Funland when they're looking for something fun to play. You see many, many houses as you walk around the hood. You hear faint gunshots in the direction of FPS Lane. You walk a little further, noticing and turning your gaze fondly upon the now decrepit Super Mario Brothers Shack. You ignore the horde of kids walking towards the Riot Mansion, assuming they'd know better once they explored more of the neighborhood. And now you start walking forward towards the familiarly satisfying Dota 2 house. How do you play? Well that's simple, you just walk into the house to play that game. And when you're done, you leave the house. Sweet neighborhood, right?
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>>162653307
add me
i always dreamed about playing in stack with support cm player
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>be nyx
>nyxing around
>want to burn some head
>multiply by inteligence of victim
>wanna estimate wich of my laning opponents would suffer the most
>want to check out intelligence of the monkey king harrassing me
>???

guys I just wanna know how to check up your hero stats (intel, strength and agi) in game ??
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>level 5 blink dagger with bounty rune farming

THIS IS THE NEW META until people start denying the enemy team bounty runes
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>>162653967
ok ty
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>>162653893
I'll never get tired of this
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>>162653286
Only games I'd buy from Blizshill are Diablo II and earlier. Fuck WoW and Overhyped
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>>162654018
Despite there being so many different houses, you see everyone keep walking into the Dota house. The gate is always open here. It's been a bastion for a large community of gamers for almost a decade now. It even changed ownership at some point, but the house pretty much stayed the same so nobody cared. Rarely do you see the Dota house empty, or closed for repairs, and you don't even have to pay to enter! You wonder why the hell some people are walking away from Free to Play Terrace. Outside of the terrace, there are bouncers at every gate, selling keys to locked houses for $60 a pop. "Preposterous," you mumble to yourself. Moving onwards, you walk into the packed house, marveling at the sound structure. It looks like there were a lot of people inside, but the house always seems to be growing and there's always room for more. As you step inside, you check out the guest list. You see your friends on it and join them for some Dota games.
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>>162654032
why would you want such burden of knowledge
informations are toxic, why dont you say something nice about new minimalistic and progressive hud
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>>162650483
This UI
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>>162653893
>he fell for the slark is imba meme

PA's no-skill cancer daggers got the buff of a lifetime, but no let's complain about the hero with the worst attributes in the game
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>>162654153
After what seems like just a few hours, it's time to go. You've spent the whole day here, and you have other duties to attend to tomorrow. You glance casually at the setting sun as you leave the Dota house. You sense your fleeting envy at your friends who can stay there for a while longer. As you make it home, you wonder to yourself for a second, how come nobody has ever built something as awesome as the Dota house? What's so special about it that keeps drawing everyone back? All the other houses around it have long crumbled into debris, and you muse to yourself, what the hell is that building made of that it eternally weathers the elements, looks so damn new every time you visit, and makes you never want to leave?

Well, this particular building is made of something super special. The Icefrog block®. People keep trying to replicate this house by hiring different contractors to copy the Icefrog block®, but nothing comes close to the original, for Icefrog only works on this one special house. Some evil people have tried to deface the Dota house by spraying graffiti on the wall, but everyone who has visited knows that the real treasure is inside. Some greedy thieves have tried to lure people away by stealing some furniture inside of the house and making it their own, but the furniture loses it lusty sheen as soon as it leaves the Dota house. Damn, this Dota house made of Icefrog blocks® is one of kind! There really is nothing like it. But why is he remodeling when you (and others) were perfectly happy with the layout of the house? Why, Icefrog, why!?
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>lose both top and bot hard
>mid monkey king carries the shit out of us

Thanks Icefrog. I mean it for once.
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>>162653673
There's skill in both laning and fighting, but having too much of either kills strategy and depth. I also favor a game that changes in pacing as it progresses as opposed to constant memefighting.

>>162653760
Actually an interesting consequence of stacking only being possible every odd minute is that you don't need to choose between stacking a camp and controlling the rune anymore, because they don't happen at the same time anymore. I'd say this reduces the skill ceiling as well, because there is no need to be able to do both (like some pro players could do).
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>>162654165
>progressive hud

/pol/ please don't meme about it or else valve will be afraid to openly address it
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>alliance has innovative strats
>they're so shit that it doesn't even matter
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>>162654292
But then you start to realize, Icefrog's house has been undergoing heavy remodeling for some time now! Most people just noticed the flagship announcements of room 700's new Monkey King's Menagerie and a while back, the haunted Abyssal Underlord's Laboratory. But there were many "house-breaking" changes that have been forgotten by now. Some otherworldly-looking spell damage amplification electric blue had been used to paint over the rooms of each Intelligence hero. People thought that would break the house, but now people don't even take a second look at this particular shade of blue. Everyone thought it was crazy when they stocked half the fridges with bottles of bounty water instead of bottles of normal runed water. They were in uproar before even trying it out, and now that empty, heartbroken sadness of opening up empty fridges has been cured, long forgotten in a distant memory. Oh yes, and the introduction of Infused Gumdrops and Octarine S'mores to the shop's snack list. You vividly recall the "THAT'S HOUSEBROKEN!!!" picketing and chanting outside the house as the memory fades. Just a couple years ago, Icefrog installed some unknown foreign model of Aghanim's speakers in most of the rooms. They used to just amp up the good ol' classics, the ultimate hits, but these new Aghanim's speakers only play some fancy avant-garde music that stretches your imagination in unorthodox ways when you listen to it. They don't seem so weird anymore though. At the end of the day, you guess the opening of the Monkey King's Menagerie and the remodeling of the entire house that comes with it isn't so strange. As long as the Dota house is still made of Icefrog blocks®, there's no reason to worry. Besides, every remodeling thus far has only made the Dota house better and better. You comfort yourself with a deep sigh of relief as you finally close your eyes and go to sleep.
[/blog]
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>>162650483
>>jungle completely changed
Not for first time either, I'm not big fan but i can live with that.
>shitty objectives like bounty runes in it like runes and shrines
Has some potential to make game more dynamic or it might promote more turtling strategies, we will see.
>>talents and new levelup throw away any semblance of strategy, everyone want the ebin level 20, 25 changes
Im fine with them desu. They dont neccesraily lock you into some specific role, i mean for example Venge can still be played as carry.
If you want to shit on something then why you dont mention hud like >>162647865
because that's the only thing that went completely wrong and has 0 redeeming value.
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>Alliance
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>losing to literal whos
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>>162653893
>LD
Even the one with little vested interest can't help themselves
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>Lose three teamfights in a row
>its fine because shrines give you tp right to roshan
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>>162653893
>slark lifesteal is imbalanced
oh lawd now I've heard it all
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>>162654548
why the fuck is that even allowed.
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>>162653893
you dont have the swindle ones

He went crazy
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uhh
dark seer might actually be retardedly strong this patch
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>Tune into Alliance game
>LyricalDota casting

Aaand muted.
Is there not a single decent caster?
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>camera doesnt show w hat kind of tree talents the players picked

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE how am i supposed to know what pros pick ?
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>>162654605
Because removing map controls from the enemy team was toxic. You should only be able to push them off a part of the map when all their outer towers are down.
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DO YOU LIKE IT???
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>>162654635
Well he gets like 80 damage thanks to his new talent, he's pretty jacked now.
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WHY CANT I FUCKIGN TYPE IN CHAT YOU UFKNG VALVE INCOMPETENT SUBHUMAN NIGGERS FIX YOUR FUCKIGN HAGME
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>>162654684
All these tier 3 NA casters sound the same to me to be honest
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>>162654684
All the decent casters just spent 10 days working in boston
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34 kills in 22 minutes

do you like your game Dotards?
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>>162653307
>FUCKING NOOB TAKING BOUNTY RUNES REPORTED
>FUCKING "CARRY CM" USING SHRINE REPORTED
>"skills free gold / xp"
>gets 1800 gold 30 minutes later.
>that has to be spent on stats that were removed.

Pretty stupid mindset.
>>
is this even dota
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>Keep forgetting to skill my talent at 10

ffs
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>>162650483
The gameplay changes are actually pretty neat; pretty unpolished, but most complaints are 2k theorycrafting.

New UI is unforgivable though. I don't get how they came up with this garbage Apple-tier HUD when the first Panorama updates were so nice.
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I can feel it guys, this is the patch for our literal guy.

Are you feeling it too?
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>>162654423

>merlini is abusing the marijuanas again

Nice
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I'm loving this game
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>>162654742
What the fuck is going through your head dude.
>>
Does Nimbus fire a bolt instantly or do you have to wait the interval for the first one?
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>>162654830
>been playing nothing but monkey king
>its better to max out his skills than to get +5 armor +275 hp at levels 10/15
>haven't put a single point into talent tree until 4/4/4/3 skills
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How to make Dota 2 - 7.00 Update Great Again

>Scalable UI complete with scaling icons
>One "Shrine" near the offlane for each team
>One Bounty Rune in a random spot in the safelane jungle for each team, fills bottle to 3 charges again
>Shrine is disabled if all T1 towers are gone for your team
>Power Up Rune spawns at the alternate time that the bounty rune spawns
>Rosh pit properly blended into the environment without being an eyesore dropped into the middle of the river
>Talents have small stat bonuses at level 10 and 20, such as +5 str or +2 armor that realistically replace previous stat bonuses
>Talents have small ability changes at level 15 such as gaining lifesteal or lower cooldown on a spell or an extra Forge Spirit for Invoker
>Talents have a large ability change at level 25 such as making a spell AOE or removing mana cost from Wraith King's Ultimate
>Talents should never be used to balance a heroes innate viability, only used for interesting bonuses and benefits relevant to the current match. Evasion, XPM, GPM, +30 health regen, and other ridiculous things should never be talents.
>Monkey King nerfs across the board
>Remove random button from ranked
>Players using the incorrect server should only be placed on the same team with each other
>Team vs. Team intro screen needs to look nicer, less aliasing, better colors, higher graphics
>Lower XP gain
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>first esports match on 7.00
>it's fucking carnage
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>40 kills in 23 minutes
>21-19 endless brawler shitfest with no impact on the game
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>this patch
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APOLOGIZE
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dota 3 seems fun to watch

not as boring but maybe laning phase should be a little longer
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>>162654962
instantly. If you cast it on an enemy channeling a spell, its an instant global range interrupt
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>shitliance

this game looks like hots right now, the memefight meta is here.
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>>162654962
Instant.
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Bulldog is bribed by valve right? There is no way that any pro/ex pro would approve this dogshit hud
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>>162654823
Indeed, people think you should go free gold/xp unless you are snowballing when it's the other way around, you only really need it if you are behind.
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>Sven is level 20 at 25 minutes
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>>162655043
>>162655049
Based frog.
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>>162654993
>mindless item grinding and farming is fun
>actual action and plays constantly is not
/d2g/
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>>162654993
>Alliance vs LiteralWHOesports
Might as well spectate 4k pubs
>>
wow you people were not kidding about the arcade memes
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>>162654826
Nope and they might loose some people because of this although not much. Of course the underages who never played WC3 won't care but ya know.
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>>162655050
He's literally a k that got to pro level with like three heroes through sheer autistic repetition and won TI by ratting. People give him way too much credit.
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>>162655087
>everyone is above level 16 at minute 25
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>people complaining about memefighting out of a match between shit teams during a time when literally nobody has even figured out the patch yet

epic
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>>162654993
>based frozen amphibian buffing cis dota and chen
reforged navi when?
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>>162654993
>first pro series of a new patch
>yup, just like all other patches, the FIRST series played will define how the patch will be
yep yep
thats exactly what has always happened
mmmhmm
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this MATCH LOOK LIKE SOME ANGEL ARENA BATTLE SHOWDOWN SHIT
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>>162655154
Well 3 time major winners OG are playing next so let's see what they do
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>>162654801
>34 kills in 22 minutes
>do you like your game Dotards?

It's based, bro.
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27- 23
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Finally dota is fun to watch. Loving this desu, comfy as fuck.
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>>162652291
this
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>>162655273
>level 16
>a relevant level
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>>162655134
Excellent point. I also think players should start out with every upgrade researched and a 200/200 army in Starcraft, along with unlimited resources and instant training times to cut on those silly downtimes. In Quake, you should spawn with every weapon, unlimited ammo and a full hp and armor stack, because running around the map to find things that aren't your enemy is tedious and anti-fun.
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>memefight
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>>162655313
>50 kills in 30 minutes
>Everyone iS level 18 or some shieeet
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>>162655081
Basically it seems.

I mean sure the CM one is 120g / m but that's only at level 20. Most games that's only going to lead to about another 20 minutes of time in game which is only 1800 total. That's less than a ultimate orb for +10 all stats.

Others are stronger, but rushing midas makes you vulnerable. Xp gain changes and tomes make other talents more viable, but you have to allot it to different heroes.

If i were to change anything it would probably be to make the shrine buff dispellable like salves and clarities.

Haven't had an opportunity to play yet but i've watched a LOT so far. Seems fun to play desu and i like talents once they're adjusted.
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from a spectator perspective, the new UI is actually awful

I cant tell anyones CS or Kills or even their stats
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>Casters confirming the game feels more like -apem
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>>162655378
Lmao nice cherry picking sperg attack nerd
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There is no laning stage.

This actually fucking sucks.
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>Buy battlefury on kunkka
>Game says "Item is not allowed on this hero"

fuckin hell icefrog
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>Spiritbreaker with Ion shell and Blademail solos a timbersaw
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HEY EOSIN YOU FUCKBOI STOP STEALING YOUR CASTING FROM US
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nice game dotards
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STOP I JUST WANTED TO FARM IN MY LANE FOR 30 MINUTES AND PLAY PVE
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so what are your core items on MK?
I'm going Phase, Aquila, Echo
after that I've had success with SnY into Abyssal
If you need BKB in a game, I think building it either before or after SnY.

I'm not sure if you really need SnY or if there are any better options.

SB/Deso memery need not apply.
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>>162655445
>Want to shit on sniper because he keeps missing creeps
>can't see them
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>its an esports always team fighting patch
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>trying to push high ground without wiping out all t2s and shrines

absolutely retarded, i seriously hope none of you guys ever try to do this.
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>>162655445
Also no series score or team names.
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>>162655445
>>162647865
>>162648168
>>162648082
STOP HATING ON NEW HUD
VALVE WORKED HARD THROUGH ALL THESE 3 YEARS TO DELIVER IT TO SHITTERS LIKE FOR FOR FREE
how can you not appreciate epic people like gagen XD or whatever his name is
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What the fuck. These casters havent even looked at the patch notes. They havent even opened the them. The exp changes are literally at the fucking top. How can they call themselves pro casters? Do they have no shame?
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The Puck is bugged right?

It isn't supposed to look like that?
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>>162655483
THE MADMAN
HE ACTUALLY DID IT
HE BUFFED HOTD AND TURNED THE GAME INTO -APEM

YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS
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>>162655510
You're calling the previous patches "mindless item grinding and farming", and you're actually going to complain about hyperbole?
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Okay how to fix patch:
increase requirement for leveling up by like 10% after lvl 10 or some shit
killing a side tier 2 tower will allow you to destroy the shrine on that side (allows you to tactically deny easy tp points for rosh instead of getting 3 tier 2 towers first)
something something if you take hero dmg while healing at shrine it gets cancelled
ehmmm
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Six game win streak since new patch. Game so easy now
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LOL THIS GAME CONSTANT FIGHT FROM 15 MINS
LITERALLY LOL
IT REALLY NO BREAK,FIGHT FOREVER
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I actually have eyestrain from playing DOTA 3.

Holy shit .
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Icefrog will fix it
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>>162655723
>It's literally LoL
>When LoL has no fighting and every game is at least an hour of PvE
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>>162655723
>LITERALLY LOL
The only difference is that people actually die
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Remember me, /d2g/?
I was good in 6.83
So they nerfed me in 6.84
Nobody bought me in 6.88
So they nerfed me in 7.00
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>>162652447
you'll eventually see how wrong you are, and you'll feel retarded for it
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>>162655723
>LITERALLY LOL
>IT REALLY NO BREAK,FIGHT FOREVER

but Gulag told me LoL is known for its PASSIVITY and 1-1 games at 25 minutes????
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>when the Sniper and Juggernaut on your team leaves
>when you solocarry 3v5 as Bloodseeker and go 28/2/10

God damn I love this hero
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>these line-ups
>people are surprised that there is a lot of fighting
?
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>everybody will quit dota and pros will lose their job
post yfw
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Is it's e-sports fault we got this shit patch? Clearly every single change is to pander e-sport cucks.

>100% focus on teamfighs so the games will be more interesting to watch, nearly no place for farming anymore.
>UI/HUD designed by Apple, instead of having the old HUD that displayed a lot of information we not have the new HUD that has even less than 50% of the information we had on the old one.
>HotS fountains and Talents, literally an exact copy of these.
>LoL map layout.
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>spectator HUD no longer shows mana bars below health bars for the teams at top of screen

They just keep out doing themselves with how bad this HUD is
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>>162655893
No one dies ever, its just constant pokes till one team gets a pick, takes Baron and snowballs.
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>>162655797
But it's not been nerfed is actually a viable item on more heroes now
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>>162655893
It is. People are just substituting "LoL" for "shit".
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So Rod of Atos is pretty much core on every fighting support right?
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>>162655424
It is fun, 2k shitters are just mad that hard carrying takes actual skill now.

HUD really is as bad as everyone says though. I don't mind the design too much (the old HUD's excessive visual theme was as cancerous as minimalism), but functionally it is just awful. They tried to shoehorn an interface for morons into a game not for morons.
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so at this point its pretty much confirmed that the majority of people complaining about this patch comparing it to league, has never ever played league, and people complaining about pulling/stacking/farming being ruined have stopped playing dota years ago, and people complaining about the pro games haven't been watching competitive dota for more than 6 months max?
hell, there's plenty of things wrong with this patch to complain about you fucks need to sit down and let grown ups talk
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>>162655941
If this was designed for viewers you'd think they would show KILLS, DEATHS, ASSISTS, CS but they don't kek
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>tfw Peruvians on USE
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how do i view enemy magic resistance and physical damage resistance?
how do i view their attacks per second
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>>162655786
>>162655794
>>162655893

LOL GOT TRIGGERED??
I USE THE WORD LOL AS LAUGH OUT LOUD NOT LEGE OF LEGND
LITERALLY LOLOLO

BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THIS GAME THEY FIGHT EACH OTHER FROM MIN 15,
LITERALLY LIVE DIE REPEAT
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>PEOPLE JUDGING THE PATCH FROM T5 TEAM ALLIANCE PLAYING
LMAO
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why don't they show levels of all heroes in the spectator hud now that they show mana?
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>>162655665
>40 kills in 23 min never happened before
>first game since new patch
>nobody knows what to do
You are the one sperging about this, not me.
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>mfw people defend this patch to justify their dota addiction
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>>162655941
You must be retarded because its clear that they're pandering to the LoL and HotS market. I don't see how any pros like the new HUD
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>>162655842

when monkey king is forgettable in two weeks you won't even remember this post because you always kneejerk shitpost every patch
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>>162655919
What talents familia?
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I want an Ilexa hero
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>buff every hero
>buff farm
>buff exp
>no mana blink
>fountains on jungle
>buff teamfights
>more escape/initiation tools
>scan

WHAT KINDA GAME U WANT?
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can ppd save dota?
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>>162656096
>dies numerous times
>lvl 23
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>>162656114
I don't think anyone likes the new hud.
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>>162655941
>>LoL map layout.
explain
because rosh changed side?
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How do i know how much agi/int/str i have now?
wtf, where do i see that
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>>162656029
>HUD really is as bad as everyone says though
I got fucking eyestrain from two games and I played DOTA 2 for 5 years without a problem

I'm baffled.
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>>162656123
+25 Damage
+250 Health
+10 All Stats
30% Lifesteal

I don't even know if those are the best talents, I'm still a noob
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You gank enemy jungle and this motherfuckers slaps your support's ass, what do you do?
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>>162655797
>nerfed in 7.00

This is what shitters really believe
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>>162656190
It's supposed to show up when you hold alt, but it's bugged.
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>>162656180
Lane and jungles are more mirrored than they were previously.

There's no radiant/dire advantage at any stage.
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So what game do we play now?
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Literally just adding a scaling slider for the HUD would fucking fix so many problems
It wouldn't fix them all but fuck it would be a huge start
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>>162656148
>>no mana blink
are people still hating on this?
literally one of the best changes in dota imo
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>>162656149
Why are you posting the CEO of EG?
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These XP/GPM things are cancerous.
Flat damage increases are cancerous.

Most level25 things are fine updates.
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>>162656108
It's ok I notice your attempt at deflection.

Btw you might want to realize you ignored the "with no impact on the game" part of his post.
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>>162656262
Are you fucking kidding me? Dire has some nice understandable paths but Radiant's jungle is just a complete god damn maze-y clsuterfuck.
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>>162656190
You normally press Alt and see it above your damage/armor/movespeed. But its bugged so you can't see it.

>>162656262
There's much different variation in high-ground and low-ground, especially when comparing secret shops. All of the Dire camps are elevated, where all of the Radiant are below
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I wonder if Sheever experiences a lot of hit ons
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>>162656289
this one
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What kinda game you want senpai?
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>>162656262
the jungles are still different
midlane still are still different
offlane radiant and offlane dire are still different
yeah 'league' map mhm
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>this fight

I like it
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>>162656262
>Dire has straightforward jungle.

>Radiant is Vietnam circa '75
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>>162656243
>300 damage
>only 1 real damage items
what the fuck
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>>162656324

well your opinion is shit, it went from niche initiation item that required a firm grasp or mana costs to "LMAO JUST TELEPORT 1200 UNITS EVERY 12 SECONDS VIABLE ON EVERY HERO XDD IT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT'S FUN THIS WAY!"

I bet if they made blink an unlockable ability at a certain level you would be ok with it.
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>>162656134
The comic literally says she's going to be in it soon
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>>162656326
because his sights are now set on becoming the next Ice Frog
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>>162656218
The problem is all of the fucking pointless compositing effects they put on everything. No simple, gentle fade ins, everything has to have a fancy animation that makes you nauseous to see over and over again.

It's like using OS X, or whatever snowflake name they changed it to.
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>>162656148
Powercreep has never once been bad in a game.
It's the epitome of good balancing and it never messes up the game. r-right?
>>
PUCK WILL NEVER REACH LEVEL 25 THEY SAID
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techies is a god this patch
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>>162656548
>a certain profile level
ftfy

It's the future
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>>162656387
Teams still lost sometimes even when having a greater lead in the past. It can happen. Define impact on the game by your perspective then. I'll wait.
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well at least we know the supports wont reach 25 in pro games with all this fighting, Puck only barely reached 25 in 40 minutes with 40+ kills
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What would a creep hero even do?
Will it change based on radiant/dire, or will there be two creep heroes?
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>killfeed / notifications on top right

For literally what purpose. What made it good before was that your eye was naturally in the bottom left corner because of the map. I honestly believe they didn't think about this hud at all. You can't even see games played in a series as a spectator
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>every esports match that runs late will have both teams at level 25
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>>162656597

It's the epitome of lazy balancing you mean, just buff everything people complain about and call it a day.
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>Supports still can't hit 25 before game ends
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>>162656682
buff other creeps
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>>162656289
Dota 2
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>>162656324
yes I still hate it

with old blink you had to manage your mana for the initiation, combo, and a potential escape with it, now every shitter hero can use it
blinks was thus more seen in casters like earthsaker, crystal mayden, ursa could not use it to hop on the map like a retard, you could not do an endless chase with it, sometimes you escaped because the carry had no mana
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6.74 workshop game mode when?
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>complain that even supports reach 25
>they don't

UMMMM DOTARDS?????
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STILL WAITING FOR SOME ONE TO MADE DOTA 6.88 CUSTOM MAP SO I CAN PLAY REAL DOTA 2 IN DOTA 3
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>>162656568
Yeah. and the way they're spread at corners of the screen. I have 34" monitor and it is NIGHTMARE to use. The mana & HP bars are so small too.

I don't think I can play until they change the HUD/a better alternative comes. This hurts my eyes physically.
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>>162656289

the game of life

oh wait you're too much of a pussy to play that one, get on overwatch I guess.
>>
are hard supports basically pointless now? everyone can hit level 20+ easily so there doesn't seem to be a point to play a hero that is only really great in the early levels
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Game has high kill counts now because no one has figured out optimal farming patterns with all the changes yet, things will calm down eventually stop overreacting you retards.
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>>162656416
>ressurect at checkpoint
casual fag get OUUUUUTTTTT
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>>162656846
Doesn't look like you'll see 25 progame supports unless it's like an 80 min game
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>>162656848
What I'm wondering is if my old map skins (like the TI6 one) still work. Because if they don't then I'm pissed because I actually paid real money to get to lvl. 125 for that Aegis map skin
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>>162656416
>from one casualized shitfest to another
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>>162656289
WC Dota
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>>162656630
I could address this, but not only do I not care because I did not make the original comment and am not watching that shitty match, but this does not change anything about your original, gross generalization, and I have no intention of budging past the first part of your post, which is what I originally mocked.
>>
It is also really bad how KILLS, taking runes etc. are all shown with a LITTLE ANIMATION at the edge of the screen.

REally bad "DESIGN" choice
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>>162656416
>playing scrubcore

LMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS GUYS A SOFTKEK PLAYER
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>tfw a sudden urge to replay wc3 campaign and play dota and then some cs 1.6

whats happening
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>>162656685
it took like 3 games to get accustomed to it
its no big deal, people blow it out of proportion
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>>162656324

It changed the game for worse, one of the first signs of what dota was turning into.
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>free exp
>free gold
>FREE HEAL in the jungle
>regen no longer dispelled by creeps
>respawn reduction

semen slupring game, the signs were there but we ignored them
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>>162657129
take off nostalgia goggles
WC2 campaign is better
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>>162657129
Play the human and the undead campaign, it becomes shit after those.
>>
Also it sucks that everything is shiny and shit. In the old HUD the fortify popped out of the dark colors, now everything shiny and flashy.
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>>162657109
>>162656926


/poeg/ is full of scrublords like him now

hardcuck for what?
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>>162656560
Imagine a meta forged by PPD himself. It would be immaculate.
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what exactly is this experience tome meme anyway? Even if it does scale, you only get like 4 of them in a game, thats like 2600 exp with the scaling on one person and it takes 3000 exp just to go from 24 to 25
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they didnt even rebalance the heroes. they just added talents and are expecting to let shit play out for months to see where things end up in some crazy experiment.

WHY

WHYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>162656907
I like the idea of both supports sharing gold/XP fairly. There are a lot more items now than before, so there is literally no hero in the game that does not benefit from at least one luxury item, and the memepack was basically added to make pub supporting bearable.
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>>162657093
i think you aren't used to looking there, and with a fresh mindset it would be fine, but i would need to opinion of a new player to know for sure
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>>162657239
Why though? There's literally no reason to not start HC in PoE.
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>>162657129
Why not play Sven Co-op
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>>162656416
>playing a game designed that you need to alt+f4 a lot.
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>>162657296
Furthest point from any real tournaments why not?
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>>162647338
How's the new update gentlemen.

Did it improve the game or made it worse
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>>162656685
Normally I don't give a shit that Valve doesn't communicate much, but this update makes me want to know what exactly is going on there.

I find it amazing that they didn't even bother putting their best foot forward when pushing out major changes that anyone could have known would be controversial.
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>>162657049
>I don't know what to respond so I'll try to sound intelligent instead
>>
What exactly is the problem with the talent trees?

It allows for more flexibility depending on how the game is going and who you're playing
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>>162656148
>people still call the slippery slope a """fallacy"""
>when things like this constantly happen again and again
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>>162657416
because they added talent trees without actually rebalancing any heroes. Like how SD is still a fucking monster.
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Why can't this shit tournament just move on. I don't want to watch tier 5 teams plays JUST GET TO OG ALREADY FUCK
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>>162657325
Maybe. They could try to streamline it somehow. To make them popout more. Even static icons could work, but now it has few colors and animations (and unrecognizable hero icons)

It's very bad for now in my experience.
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>clicking Aegis in fountain literally shows nothing

What the FUCK are they doing
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>>162657416
I used to think like you

but then I saw PA throwing TWO daggers

fuck this meme shit
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>>162656907
No.

Every support i can think of is good lategame. Chen can persuade 6 creeps at 25, and has send back. Enchantress can control early then just play with DPS and heals. Wyvern has a scaling ult and great save. SD has utility and a save. Dazzle has a save. etc etc

They're all good. I can't think of a hero that is exclusively good early game now.
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>>162657234
white and based
orc and night elf were always my least favourite, i really liked rexxar campaign though
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>Ban new/reworked heroes from captain's mode for the sake of competitive DotA.

> Have pros play in the newest version where everything changes

UMM DOTARDS?
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>>162656682
It should be an ult where you take control of creeps in an aoe

Maybe the ability to transform into a regular creep but doing full damage
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>>162657327
the client runs like shit and dying to lag isnt a difficulty feature
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>>162657213
WC3 is trash.

>>162657234
Yeah that.

>>162657387
I specifically said I have no intention to reply. You made a sad generalization and I mocked it, and now you're trying to save face or something. Either get over yourself or stfu.
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>>162657416
There's nothing wrong with talent trees as a mechanic.

The only problem right now is number adjusting. Like what the fuck is up with +6 treants, or lich getting +150 damage at level 20.
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>>162657541
>but then I saw PA throwing TWO daggers
These talents are really bad, including Mirana triple arrow because they don't require much thinking from the player (oh I just spray and pray wow look at that 3x stuns now due to two automatical arrows flying)

it doesnt require player input - it plays itself. thats the bad thing
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>>162657541
Don't have dagger envy anon
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>>162657296
Talent add another way to rebalance heroes. If you buff a spell, it has to be somewhat balanced for level 7 since if its really good people will just max it first. So spells are limited by static scaling and early game balance. So talents can take an okay spell and make it exceptionally good with talents. Not in the existing system but down the line when spells are in the 15 and 20 tier its probably going to be really good.

Also offsets items supports want to buy but limits their build possibilities as a result, like armor vs mana aka tranquils or arcanes or both. Carries want armor, but can't fit armor into an item build, now its a talent vs something they might REALLY want like damage or whatever.

Existing system, meh but its groundwork for something that will actually work.
>>
Dota is literally dead
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>>162657129

>play the easy-mode shitstain missions

play vanilla starcraft while you're at it.
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>>162657416
1. the talents are ridiculous
2. they used it as an excuse to ignore changing the core of the hero
3. they tacked on a bunch of corny shit like 3 arrow mirana instead of thinking of something truly cool
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>>162657820
What would you suggest? Another subability?

Having 3 shot arrows with Mirana is great because of they provide vision, she becomes a really strong scout.
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>>162656926
>>162657109

this league is super annoying to play on HC, i usually do play HC but this league is like a guaranteed death before maps

im not crazy good or anything but yeah

also fuck this dota patch
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>>162657820
>game too farming oriented
>change it to more fight game
>people still complain
weeeewwwww
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Nice """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""game""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" guys

see you at >>/lolg/
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>>162650023
This, the grass now looks like shit when see the old grass.

Also
>clouds
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how the fuck did eosin "Big Deal" trash get a casting gig
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New ui is pretty good, aside from the missing info and warping animation from selecting new units (which you should be able to disable)

I already got eye strain from the previous ui because of my big monitor
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The animations are the only good part about the new HUD tho
Aside from that glowy shit on the level up icons
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>>162654980
Will Luna ever sit on my face?
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>>162657957
I blame the useless skybox on the lag people experience
who asked for it
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>qualifiers 1 day after new patch with tier3 teams to get easy views and play shitton of ads

why didnt David "LD" Gorman taught of this ?
I bet hes pissed
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>>162658005
I don't understand how people say its good when it shows less information for the sake of "wow look how small it is." Its objectively worse in almost every way
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>>162657953
we didnt even go full league of legends we skipped over that

dota went full heroes of the storm
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>>162658032
it supposedly only renders when in that theatre mode when you press I
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>>162657947
it was never too farm oriented, 6.88 had lots of fighting, we just needed Alchemist and illusion nerfs, which we did get in 7.00
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EOSIN WAS RIGHT
EOSIN WAS RIGHT
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>>162658032
Nah the performance has improved significantly on most lower end machines, so it's probably something else
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>>162651256
Hud is trash

t. 2k
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someone has to combine all the popular mobas into one master moba
Valve decided to be the ones to do it
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>>162658005
I use a 2560x1600 34" monitor and this new HUD fucked my eyes. I have never had eyestrain in 24 years and now 3-4 games caused pain to my eyes.

It is so fucking messy, shiny, blinking, chaotic.
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>>162657947
no one has complained about this game being "too farm oriented" for years. everyone was in agreement that the last patch was the perfect balance of everything. are you new here, redditor?
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>>162658073
Pardon, but the smaller UI gives me a good .5 seconds extra time to react to someone running up behind me
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>>162658150
>tfw got better performance
>doesnt matter since game keeps crashing
nice la
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>>162657953
>>162657945
>>162657947
>>162657820
I really am not getting the outrage.

Are people really so upset over the UI that they're uninstalling? Or just impatient for numerical balancing? Or the map being different?

All i hear is shit like "new map looks bad" without explaining the reasoning behind that opinion. Or "talent trees are dumb" without explaining that opinion.

The xp gain might be really stupid, but then again so was the rubberband before it was nerfed LITERALLY 4 times in a row.

How thin skinned are people over this jfc.
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>>162658160
>HotS
>Popular
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>pros start to pick le balanced bird of free mmr
thoses cocksuckers better not have my man visage nerfed
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thread going so fast, nobody will notice im ________icefrog__
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>>162658254
the extra space isn't worth all the hidden info, and all the stuff thats been moved around, especially the kill-feed
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>>162658160
Except league is more popular than dota, and dota now way more resembles HotS which is dead as fuck
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>>162658283
the UI and the performance and all that will be fixed, they always fix it. the talent bullshit, healing fountains, runes, map changes, none of this will be fixed until the next big patch. this is what actually matters, and this patch is going to be shit because of it.
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>>162658283
Hud has been similar since war craft and the new layout literally makes the game feel like league. Imagine if Starcraft had a Hud change like this.
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https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
>https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
>https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
>https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
>https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/808746721203417088
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>>162657605
>complains about generalization
>he's the one that generalized on the first place based only on one game
Really fires up the neurons
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>want to cosplay a certain hero
>begin working out as hard as I possibly can
>work out every day, eating correctly and a lot and working out a lot and correctly too
>keep working out and eating correctly, sleeping the correct amount too
>gotta keep working out to reach anywhere near the physique of said hero
Which hero am I trying to cosplay here, d2g? I actually have one in mind
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>wake up
>no patch
Sometimes you don't know what you have until it's gone...
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Just wish I didn't have to look at the bottom of my screen for longer than a second to look at my own mana or skill cd's..

Just wish I didn't have to look at the bottom of my screen for longer than a second to look at my own mana or skill cd's..

FUCKING THIS

Just wish I didn't have to look at the bottom of my screen for longer than a second to look at my own mana or skill cd's..

Just wish I didn't have to look at the bottom of my screen for longer than a second to look at my own mana or skill cd's..

FUCK

FUCK VALVE NUMALE LOWKEK TEST DESIIGN
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>>162658540
I really hate the new HP and SP bars

I mean its on the bottom and you tend you ignore the things on your borders, like how I dont like "tabs on top".
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>>162658283

we played this game for years you retard, now you change the jungle and the entire feel of the game you had goes to drain
and at some point picking bounty runes is just tiresome, you still have to do it, but it's tedious shit
now you have shrines so you can heal your butthurt if you got BTFO during laning
it's shit like this that drops and keeps adding
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>>162658598
Jug
Axe
Anti-Mage
Faceless
new Enigma
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>>162658073

-It's not as claustrophobic and doesn't waste screen economy on a shitty myspace skin quality interface.
-Kill feed is more readable
-It at least introduced ui scalability, which they better fuckin expand upon
-More control options for courier
-The backpack space is just intuitive design
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>>162658283
This happens every patch until something gets reverted or a legacy option added.
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>the new Necrophos
>chasing bitches
>regenerating like crazy with ghostshroud
>throwing scythes like $100 bills
>picking regeneration items en masse
YESSSS
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>press my league of legends crush bind to select hero
>new target box disappears

Nooo.
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>>162658397
I've been able to sneak in three games between studying bio and Spanish, and the only issue I've had was a 2-stack Nigger King and Techies jumping my ass in the offlane.
Atos->primal spring->blast off->boundless strike = a very dead Vrogros

I haven't had a problem with the new UI as 1. I already know Underlord's base stats, and 2. I can press alt
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>patch isn't even out for a day
>thread already dead

dead game
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>>162658709
>-Kill feed is more readable
what

its full of unrecognizable hero avatars + icons (rune/kill etc) and so much colors.

the old text with player color was so much better
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>>162658283
it's shit, the game has been steadily getting worse since 682 and beyond, with 680 bringing the first truly negative and permanent change in dota history, the removal of blink dagger mana cost
it's shit, they've constantly buffed supports, support gold, and decreased the cost of a very vast amount of items in the game, on top of increasing passive gold gain among other things
it's shit, i haven't played the game in months because of all the previous patches ruining any fun or tactics
it's shit, i played four games on 7.00 where half of the people in the game were level 20 at the 25 min mark, all of the games ending at the 50-70 min mark with everyone level 25
it's all shit
as an example, sure, 74 had a retardedly overpowered shit hero, but that was a fun game for white and based people where everything was based on skill and tactics. dota today is just utter fucking shit, supports can run around aimlessly and get showered in gold and xp, carries don't have to last hit or farm creeps anymore because they instead get a couple 2k items then fight until the game ends; the instant anyone dies they tp to the shrine and rejoin the fight
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>>162658598
well are you a chink, nigger or whitey?
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>>162658651
yea my firefox also has tabs on bottom, just to feel there is more space
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>>162658709
-sure, thats maybe the only good thing
-no it isn't, at all
-"they better"
-its no different, and you should be using the courier hotkeys anyways instead of clicking the bottom right corner
-backpack design is poor because the boxes are so small that its already tough to switch, let alone switch to the top row of your inventory since its bugged
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>>162655975
>>162656254
Mask of madness was gutted you shitheads

silencing yourself is a HUGE drawback. Giving yourself 30% damage amp was irrelevant if you weren't getting hit. It made MoM great on heroes like sniper where you either took 0 damage or died instantly. -5 armor or +30% damage wasn't going to matter if 5 heroes got on top of sniper and gang banged him, sniper won by attacking you from out of range when you can't hit back, MoM gave 100% aspd for huge dps and 17% ms to keep kiting so he didn't take damage

now what happens if you buy MoM on a kiting hero? You can't cast your slows, stuns, etc. Sniper can't cast shrapnel so he loses vision or gets run over or blinked on, can't finish heroes with assassinate. If you went MoM on faceless void for hitting someone during chrono, you can't time walk out. If you went MoM on sb for maximum dps on your combo, you can't use it before you nether strike so you only get 1/3 of the duration

MoM has been totally replaced by echo sabre, MoM shouldn't even exist anymore
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whats the best KANG build?????
what do i max first and what items are the best on him?
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>>162658598
Tresdin?
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why do i even play this game
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>>162657416
Whether you liked the stat up option or not, the fact is that it was used often in pro matches (e.g. AM, Juggernaut, Warlock) and that it was in competition with spells for ranks, meaning there were some actual choices between it. You get talents alongside ranks, i.e. essentially for free, and the choices have been watered down to a Bioware-tier "left or right" option.

They also are way too significant, making levels 10, 15 significant, but purely out of the stat boost you get (+10 armor, +12% magic resistance, that kind of stuff). The level 20 and 25 talents are pretty much game breaking, not only making late-game Dota retarded - people say the game becomes Dota IMBA at that point and I don't see it as a good thing, especially considering the third game of the Boston Grand Finals was a very long game and I suspect that's the last we'll see of games like these. Finally, those talents also increase snowballing significantly. Imagine you're behind and some guy on the other team reaches level 25. Juggernaut now shreds your team really hard with his increased blade fury dps, AM is even harder to deal with, VS has a magic-immunity piercing stun that's on a low cooldown, etc.

I think that the game already had enough snowballing elements. Item advantages and level advantages from 1-16 were very important. Levels 17-25 were far less important (although still very desirable, from a stats point of view). In a way, I feel they balanced out the xp advantage: the team ahead would have more stats, but their deaths would have longer respawn times. Now the whole 1-25 range is very important.

Finally, many of the talents feel like they were chosen at random. I think this is the only one of my complaints that could actually be fixed.

Also, I actually like some of the talents, but I'd rather see them in some other form.
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>>162658828
>0 arguments, x is bad because told you so, i've been telling this to you for years guys! game will die anytime!
fuck off already
new HUD sucks balls tho
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>>162658598
If your height doesn't begin with a 6 then I would just go sissy mode
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>>162655975
>silencing yourself for 7 seconds
>viable
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>>162658213

Are people seriously complaining about eye strain just because Dota got a totally normal sized ui?

Have you guys ever played any other vidya?
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>people defend having half of the important hud info hidden behind your Alt key

y tho
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Now that most of you have played 7.00

>how is it compared to 6.88?
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Hi, not a player here

I have played dota2 only a lot of years ago.

I have...fucktons of time into League of legends (years) but now
>inb4 just now
is getting too much cancerous

you have 6 bans and 25 unbalanced champions it's impossible to enjoy a match anymore.
To have a nice game you just have to ban 6 random op shits and hope no one picks any of the other free, who farm for 15 minutes in lane before being able to oneshot everyone.

I've read around of the big dota2 update, and I am curiuos, is the game worth trying? Or is it broken in some aspects?
There are champions who, if farm for the first 15 minutes, then can crit you for 600 dmg every hit while your HP at that given time is around 900?
Or you can actually PLAY, in dota2?
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>>162658598
enigma
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>>162659095
literally no one is defending it though
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are you ready for some caaaaannnnnnccccer

this is hilarious

cant wait for ti7
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>>162658709
>It's not as claustrophobic
It's more claustrophobic now because all of the information is crammed into a smaller area dumb fuck

>Kill feed is more readable
FUCK no. It takes much less time to glance at the lower left corner than all the way to the upper right, and people are already used to it for years. The new kill feed is just riddled with retarded icons as well. That's the most cancerous part about minimalistic designs. Just slam icons into everything.
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>>162659185
there are people in this very thread, like this guy

>>162658783
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>>162659156

It's shit.
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>>162658969
1: passive
2: stun
3: passive or tree jump
4: tree jump or passive
max skills in order of:
passive > tree jump > stun = ultimate

start game with items like stout, orb of venom, boots, poor mans shield
you should prioritize getting boots + oov asap, so you can run people down with your right clicks. If you can force fights to the death at level 1-2, you will always win even if you dive their tower because your passive+stun is so broken

core items are phase boots, echo sabre and basher. Everything else is luxury after that. Get survivability because you have all the offense you need: BKB, satanic, skadi, sny are all fine choices. Don't write off the possibility of getting euls or blademail or lotus orb, because you just need to survive a few seconds to set up your ultimate in lategame pushes uphill
>>
How do I get started with this game? It seems like the matchmaking is broken or something, I'm always tossed in games full of complete pros who yell at me because I end up ruining the game for them (hell even when trying to do Coop vs. AI Bots everyone seems so fucking on edge)

Is there not an easy way to get into this, or maybe a few tips to share?
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>>162658571
>he's the one that generalized on the first place based only on one game
No I'm not. You are aware there are more than two posters on this website, right?
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>>162659172
>There are champions who, if farm for the first 15 minutes, then can crit you for 600 dmg every hit while your HP at that given time is around 900?
What you mean like monkey king?

Am I getting baited??
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>>162659242
disgusting
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Reminder that if you want to fuck Ilexa you should send a note to https://www.f-list.net/c/ilexa
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>>162659082
>not only silences yourself, but cannot be purged with euls/bkb/etc

what the actual fuck icefrog
in what scenario is "-5 armor and silence" a lesser drawback than "30% damage"
nigga who buys mom to trade hits on a passive hero like lycan lmao
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>>162659267
just keep playing, enjoy the fact that people are yelling at you instead of YOU having to yell at others.
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>post yfw when LoL is more Dotalike than Dota 2
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>>162659376
>in what scenario is "-5 armor and silence" a lesser drawback than "30% damage"
In any scenario with magic damage? Hello??!
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>>162659376
Maybe you should now?
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>Arteezy streams new patch
>dies because he didn't have enough mana
>complains that he has tough time understanding HUD

Its happening
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>>162659457
25 minutes of poking into a huge snowball spree?
Yep sounds like dota.
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>>162659082
>Playing Sniper
>Caring about being silenced for 7 seconds
>Playing Medusa with ult on cooldown
>Caring about being silenced for 7 seconds
>Playing Sven after popping stun, war cry, and god's strength
>Caring about being silenced for 7 seconds
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>>162659156
We all like it. Apart from some bugs and technical issues there's literally just one redditor complaining ITT trying to make it sound like the patch is bad.
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>>162658814

It's 1000x more clear at a glance.
Thus has been suggested for since the game was released, and it's obvious why.

The shit thing about it is that it's located in the wrong spot
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What's a hero that can really effectively steal one of the enemy bounty runes at the beginning of the game?
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hello , I am new to dota and I have been trying out heros since yesterday, so far there is two I really like :

Slardar and Earth Spirit

Slardar I have no problem with, I rush blink dagger, if I stomp I can go for echo blade/bkb , if not I just build support/ward etc, maybe AC

Now earth spirit I really really love but I am not sure what to do this patch, is he good ?

What do you build on it ? I like going urn boot midas, blink dagger. Then I usually go aether and then discord.
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>>162659172
not sure what you're asking
if you dont like stronk shit in your games, then dota is not the place for you
however, we counter stronk with stronk, so in that sense, yeah, you can pick MUCH more viable heroes
as of right now, the state is in a 'no one really knows whats good right now, even pros and high ranked pub players', so it will be chaotic, but not OP chaotic.
so tl;dr game is a mess but you might like it anyways
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>>162649205
I highly doubt even valve is stupid enough to nerf EVERY SINGLE ONE of his abilities less than a week after he is released
>>
>Watch stream
>can't even see the K/D/A of the hero
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>>162659551
It doesnt show what kill spree the dead person had, so its objectively worse
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>>162659584
Don't know why you can't lock stuff like that to always show
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>>162659567
it has the completely irrelevant hero icons

I read the kill feed constantly in games, now I just gave up, and it has this shitty "HURR LE KILLING SPREE HAS ENDED" text, for what purpose
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>eosin casting
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>>162659567
bounty hunter
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>>162659225

Explain to me how a few icons are less readable than a sentence string which uses PWND in it's verbiage.
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>>162659551
It can also extend to like halfway across the screen, whereas the old stopped at a certain point and continued below. Fucking distracting
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>>162659376
>>162659082
viable on:
sven
tiny (obviously keep your armor in mind)
wraith king
drow
luna
medusa
spectre
sniper (kind of iffy since you normally want to use a shrapnel or two in fights and finish off with ult)

thats from the top of my head
basically, anyone who can start a fight by using all the spells they want, and then want to keep fighting, not caring about an 8 sec silence as long as they get to dump their spells on a target
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>>162659737
because its in a place that literally no one ever looks at
just take it back to where it was(lower left side) and its fine
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>>162659485
so the enemy is nuking you with magic damage and you can't time walk away because you silenced yourself?
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>>162659369
You should send a note to the authorities you degenerate

Ilexa is pure
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>>162659753

The number one complaint is that it's located in a spot where nobody looks
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>>162659172
It's sight more shit now, but still leagues better than Riot's aluminum plated pile of shit. And Unranked, while infested with thirdies, has some decent people. I've had lol converts actually add me after games win or lose just because I was encouraging and gave helpful advice. Just leave the salt with Pendragon, if you get buttmad everyone gets buttmad and then you lose.

>I've read around of the big dota2 update, and I am curiuos, is the game worth trying? Or is it broken in some aspects?
There are champions who, if farm for the first 15 minutes, then can crit you for 600 dmg every hit while your HP at that given time is around 900?
Or you can actually PLAY, in dota2?
You can play and enjoy the game, but beware Antimage, he is a 15-20 min nuker, but can be shut down if you catch him out of position or gank his ass early and cut off his farm.

https://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol is agood place to start,

http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/ will give you a shitload of information

and the dota 2 wiki http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Dota_2_Wiki is a good reference if you don't know what the fuck you're doing. Also, read Purge's Welcome to Dota, you suck guide.

Godspeed, man.
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>no artour babaev stream
>no ee sami stream

i just want to watch good players play the new patch.

>inb4 singshit
fuck off cringy kids
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>>162659093
Just in the past two weeks I played through the main missions of The Phantom Pain, Mankind Divided and I had no issues.
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>>162659932
EE's house got robbed, so we don't know when he's going to stream.
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>>162659671
As it is now an option for reverting the alt functionality would just look like shit since attributes are floating high over the UI and stats show over the portrait.

Some things made a lot of sense to hide like +damage and +armour but KDA, cs and attributes not so much.
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>>162650617
>This piece of trash is allowed but SSJ Lebron James Tidehunter isnt
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>>162659854
>>162659854
>sven
echo sabre better
>tiny
no followup tosses. Echo sabre better
>wrath king
no followup stuns is a dealbreaker, you NEED to be able to cast this off cd
>drow
no ability to silence when someone jumps on you is a dealbreaker
>luna
no lucent beams or eclipse on command, and besides, thats retarded anyway
>medusa
you'd have to only use it after you stone gaze AND mystic snake now, instead of having reliable uptime
>spectre
no
>sniper
you need shrapnels and assassinates
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>>162659932
>good players
>robbed weeb autist
>some nigger wannabe from khazakastan
LOL
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>>162659737
If the icons are anything like the ones that show on the minimap, several of them are ugly as hell and don't look like their associated hero. There being around 110 heroes also requires you to be able to identify 110 icons.

The former system used color coding (which admittedly you needed to "relearn" every game), and any decent reader could quickly parse the text for keywords like "vengeful" or "templar"
>>
why is it always taking 5mins+ to find a game even in ranked at around 4k
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>>162659932
EG are playing at some random chink LAN this weekend along with DC, Newbee and Wings
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>>162660023
>>162660060

what could they even take ?

his fap pillow ?
his waifu pillow ?
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>>162660074
This. Dear God the old way to show kills etc. was so much more efficient. Gratz, you connect color with a hero and you are done. Trying to identify the icons by a fucking GLANCE is always going to be slower because the ICON is a more complex shape then unified letters + single color.
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>>162659507
both the health and mana bars are way too small
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>>162659172
Right now its pretty bad time to ask about stuff like that because 99% of people are shitposting about patch.
I used to play league back in season 2, used to be occasionally matched with popular streamers and pros but i quit and never came back to that shit because of limited skillcap.
If you're triggered by op heroes im not sure if you will enjoy dota because snowballing is a lot harder over here but you can give it a try altrough "welcome to dota, you suck" guide is outdated for this patch so you will have to wait until Purge updates it.
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How come all of a sudden there's an asston of reviews with people sperging out and saying 7.00 ruined Dota? is this a bad time for me to start playing? I'm not super familiar so what exactly did it mess up?

I'll assume everyone is just complaining because they don't want to have to relearn anything?
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>/d2g/ says mom is terrible
>loda buys one and is winning with it
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>>162660134
the little figurines
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>>162660023
>NA Dota.
>>
HOW DO I TURN OFF THE FUCKING WIND AND STREAM NOISE WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS SO FUCKING ANNOYING
>>
Is there a way to get the old ui back
>>
>full on agi talents with skadi, linkens and desolator weaver
i've broken the game lads
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>>162660178
They are too fucking small and they are at the worst possible place - at the bottom (edge) of the monitor. You can't glance it unlike in 6XX dota.
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>game runs progressively worse the longer into a match i get
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>>162660231
>/d2g/ says MK is overpowered
>beesa stack wrecked clan_unranked on it last night on dotatv
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>>162658530
Saw a comparison, definitely agree now. I like cleaning it up and making it smaller, but not this way: its missing info.

>>162658598
If you're a fuccboi
>Bloodseeker / Anti-Mage

If you're based:
>Beastmaster

>>162658674
I've played this game since wc3.

>>162659457
>(You)
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>>162660054
>no followup stuns is a dealbreaker, you NEED to be able to cast this off cd
you will never guess what the cd on stun is
protip: MoM silence is 8 seconds
>no followup tosses. Echo sabre better
lmao you will NEVER guess what the cd on toss is!
>echo sabre better
LMAO its almost like its a cheap 2.3 k item you can replace later, and that item slots arent as important right now as it sued to be
>no ability to silence when someone jumps on you is a dealbreaker
lmao its ALMOST like you can use silence before you commit MoM!
>no lucent beams or eclipse on command, and besides, thats retarded anyway
LMAO its ALMOST like you can use spells and THEN use MOM LMAO
>you'd have to only use it after you stone gaze AND mystic snake now, instead of having reliable uptime
LMAO ITS ALMOST LIKE THAT SHIT ISNT FUCKING OBVIOUS AS FUCK
>no
YEAH OH NO SPECTRE HAS -5 ARMOR AND CAN'T ULT IN AND DAGGER AND THEN USE MOM LMMOOO
>you need shrapnels and assassinates
its almost like thats the one I said was iffue due to what you just said

you're fucking stupid anon, like straight up dumb as a rock
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>>162656116
I have over 2k more mmr than you do for a reason faggot
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>>162660360
>Chechen skeleton
>Proof of anything
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>>162650418
You might want to check out HoN 4.0 then, came out just today
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Get 27 kills as MK.
Team refuses to push.
Eventually lose to a PA that can one shot me.

Still fun as fuck. MK mvp
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>7.00 Mask of Madness is shit
>-/d2g/
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I'm fine with everything else but the bounty runes and the faster exp gain don't feel right.
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>>162660450
>Eventually lose to a PA that can one shot me.
wouldnt a blink be core on monkeru kingu?
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>>162660223
It's because many people (including me) are unhappy with most of the major changes patch 7.00 brought. It may be somewhat of an overreaction (I uninstalled), but I really do think the game has started its decent into the shitter, and its initial slope is vertiginous.

Now, is it worse than LoL or HotS? No, it isn't. It's still the best ARTS game, but I'm not sure I would call it great or a well designed game anymore.
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is MoM viable on anyone besides troll and lycan now?
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>>162660529
Would it be too much trouble to explain your gripes with the update? I'm not big on Dota, so I'm just wandering and I'm curious.
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>>162660498
>tier 5 team playing against another tier 5 team

??????
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>>162660583
luna, according to this dotapit game.
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>>162660529
>He uninstalled after literally one day
>He's going to have to spend a whole day reinstalling a month from now after 7.00b
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>>162660505
this
only problem with patch is UI being clunky and unfinished (which they should be able to fix within a week) and xp gain needs a nerf/need more exp to level up nerf needed
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>>162660583
Wraith King? Maybe?
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>>162660527
They had an SB so he kept charging me.

I guess a Linken's would've been useful but I was just having fun destroy the oracle and jakiro with 1 hit of my stun.
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>>162660498
He should take it off and stop being a cuck.
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>>162660505
Yea I don't know what the fuck they were thinking QUADRUPLING the number of bounty runes in the game
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Is OG going to play or not?
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>25 minute game
>30 kills
>these are the luna itmes
>2/3 racks are down
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Jesus christ invoker sucks so much now
>>
>>162660074

Honestly the color scheming was awful and almost completely valueless, I don't know how you can consider that a positive.

Admittedly names could be helpful, but the icons will be associated similarly regardless.
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>>162660758
Tomorrow
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>>162660583
Lone druid Bear
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>>162660758
Tomorrow.
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>>162660630
Not him but seeing as you are starting playing you wont notice it, everyone has to learn map again because a lot of stuff got changed, new hud is considered trash and like with every patch there are some glitches that will be probably fixed in week or two but it shows that valve is terrible when it comes to that stuff and they love to make their players work as guinea pig beta testers.
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my motivation to play dota is gone. i wanted real hero changes, not this talents experiment with a ridiculous map and shrines and runes to boot. im depressed. i guess ill grind some shitty christmas skins in overwatch now.
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so the new WK build is a combination of boots(duh) + wand + blink + blademail/maelstrom/echo/MoM + whatever next tier items you want?
armlet is nice but fuck getting kited
>>
>>162660090
Really? What tourney?
>>
did they get rid of the old silence sound effect
>>
new tred pls
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>>162660309

PLEASE SOMEONE

IT'S SO ANNOYING FUCKING SHIT THIS GAME IS FUCKING DIFFERENT FUCK
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>>162660916
WCA I think
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>>162660916
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/China_Top/2016
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>chasing group of heroes after teamfight as donkey kong
>get 3 hits but then stunned
>guess what path they take
>leap into trees, guessed correctly
>leap again to catch up, then jump down in front of them with slow
>get final hit and slam my thick rod down
>instant full hp and triple kill

I don't care what you guys say, this hero is fun as fuck
>>
i want my fucking dota back. remove fucking scan, remove fucking shrines, remove all these fucking cancer runesand talents everywhere. omg im gona die.
>>
>>162660986
something something ambient in the options I assume
>>
>>162661038
>>162661038
>>162661038
new
>>
>buy echo sabre
>hit enemy twice, slow for 100% for 1 second AND get +200 hp, +10 aspd, +120 mana, +75% regen and +15 damage

>buy mask of badness
>get -5 armor and silence myself
>die
>>
>>162658828
Only thing I disagree with is the mana-costing blink, but then again that's the patch I started playing dota on so I did like the change.

The """comeback""" system is probably the worst change in dota history.
>>
You guys are really enjoying this shit? It's a fucking clown fest. Four fucking bounty runes LOL. Mini fountains that you can teleport to LOL. Moved roshan to the same side as League for what LOL. You think supports being showered with gold and exp means shit when carries are nigh unkillable. I've seen better scepter, aghs, bots timings on meepo then I've ever before. If you don't leave your lane in the first 5 minutes you're already behind. Cores are scaling way more then supports in the late game. I feel like I'm on an Everest expedition in the fucking jungle. Did we really need to be fogged 3 times going from river to high ground.
>>
Man /d2g/ is really butthurt over this patch. I figured you guys would be able to go with the flow by now.

or maybe im fine with everything because I have six months to live and don't want to bring on any undue apathy
>>
>>162661061

IT'S NOT
>>
Yeah sure. I don't like the HUD (and even if you like that style of HUD, which I do not, there are still glaring issues with it), I don't like bounty runes being moved into the jungle (which turns them from "neutral" objectives that teams could fight over to team objectives where one team has clear control over them considering their position on the map) and I don't like shrines.

I also despise talents and I've elaborated on this there >>162658978

>>162660648
I'm not reinstalling, lol. First of all because they won't fix my problems with the patch, and second because the truth is Dota is a time sink and I'm better off without it. It's (was) a fun time sink for sure, but I've spent a couple thousands of hours on it over the years and if I had spent that time on something else, I'd objectively be a better person.
>>
>>162661365
well a ruh roh to you then anon
>>
Whats the best AP champion in this game?
>>
>>162661202
>im fine with everything because I have six months to live

you ok bro?
>>
>>162659569
go boots oov force staff then gank all possible lanes as crazy as you can. get veil next, get lvl 15 and activate ooga booga gibsmedat. from there you can go crazy with ags blink or whatever. also try to steal as many bounty runes from the enemy jungles as you can. literally go full nigger on them.
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>>162661150
>this retard can't even cast all his spells before using MOM.
>he thinks -5 armor means anything after a core is already farmed up, especially when the lifesteal easily offset that.
>>
>>162661523
Obviously not, he only has six months to live.
>>
>>162661495

FUG
>>
>>162659251
Why?
>>
who else here 100% win rate in dota 3?
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>>162662246

Well I just started but the results speak for themselves ;-)
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>>162662246
yup, two wins out of two against medium bots. Go us!
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I hope you guys realize that players that could easily binge 7-8 games can't even bring themselves to play this game. This patch went into a completely different direction and not for the better. It really is APEM. Like others have said, we can give it time to fix bugs and smooth things out but I don't see this patch going well. It feels catered to other MOBA players, but those same MOBA players didn't play dota because they sucked at dota. So now we have reddit patching DOTA and if you disagree with where the game is headed you are downvoted. I played 8 games two days ago. I've played 5 in the last 24 hours and I forced myself to play the last 3. And the HUD and overlay were the least of my issues.
>>
>>162662894
if you still played eight games every day with the recent patches you're here to stay
i'm not returning, enjoy the shit game
>>
>>162662894
I agree, it feels like shit now.

My ebin 2k friends think it's "so much fun" and "a great patch".
>>
>>162662894
What do you mean by "APEM"?
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>>162659567
treant
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>>162656548
>>162656816
>>162657182
I want grandpas to leave
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>>162663139
"All Pick Easy Mode"
>>
>>162663461
I want you to stop posting on reddit and trashing the game
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>>162659905
ty
>>
>>162663631
fuck off w3 dota was unbalanced trash that nobody but fat 40 years old basement dwellers played.
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>>162664000
pre 80 dota was a patrician sport for true white men
everything after is shit
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>>162663139
>tfw babbies who started in the post 6.6x era in my /d2g/
>people like Sumail were literally in diapers when the transition to 6.xx happened
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>>162664287
do you think blink dagger should have a mana cost, yes or no faggot, answer quickly
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>>162664372
Yes will always be the answer.
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>>162649046
I can't find the option.
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>>162664515
good answer, good answer
too bad they ruined dota and i can't revert to wc3 in this day and age
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the patch is not that bad the level gain is just to high 2bh and they still need to nerf stuff like mirana morph kunkka the ape timber slardar naga and slark

t.5k player
>>
>>162664709
my mmr trumps yours and i say you're wrong and that the past several patches have all been garbage which is why i stopped playing
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>That feel when I want to play the patch and abuse the OP heroes for easy MMR but been feeling way too depressed lately.
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>>162649205
You actually made me smile :D.
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>>162664372
>tfw dota2 babbies want everything to be a no-risk, no-cost play
>WAAHHHH WAHHHH ICEFRAWG ME BINKY COST TOO MUCH MANA!!!
>WAHHHH I LOST MY LANE ICEYFRAWG THEN THOSE BULLIES RAPED ME THE REST OF THE GAME ME WANT MEMEBACKS WAHHHH!!!!
>WAHHHH ME NO LIKE TO CLICK CREEPS GIVE MORE PASSIVE GOLD AND MEME GOLD FOR MEMEFIGHTING ICEFRAWG!!!!
>WAAHHH ME NO LIKE MANAGING MANA, GIVE ME MEMEFOUNTAINS IN THE JUNGLE AND CHANGE JUNGLE SO EVEN A RETARD CAN FARM IT EFFICIENTLY

These people always existed, but before Valve came into the picture Icefrog just ignored them while the pro scene mocked them. Now this game is literally old dota easymode with a memefighting meta like HOTS.
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>>162651865
>>162651371

Because mad corecucs can't 1vs9 anymore and it was getting progressively harder and harder to do so with each patch. Now supports can afford blink and shit like glimmer cape exist so more ways so fuck up that timber mid or am. Literally best thing that could have happened ever.
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