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qt tree waifu edition

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no longer alive >>162573638
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>>162620986
>treefucking heresy
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Is it possible to fuck a treegirl?
Asking for a friend
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HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme elves, meme goblins, meme squigs, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
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>>162620986
Rollan!
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Wood Elves either need point drops across the board for online play, or buffs across the board. It's impossible to do shit with them online.
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>First battle of Shogun 2
>Soldiers literally waiting around to hit each other
>A guy is surrounded by 4 others and they're just standing there watching him
WHY
I JUST WANT
A GOOD TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE
LIKE THE FIRST ROME
JUST
KMN
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>>162621043
do you have a bore?
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>start playing Rome II, only played Rome in any great capacity
>pick Macedon
>Athens hates me, Sparta hates me
>public order goes to shit in Thrace (-64), my best general untrustworthy now
>All this by turn 8
How do I git gud? The OPness of Rome in the first game made me complacent I guess.

I want to play Rome II now since its the only TW I have that my laptop can't run. I'd like to get a campaign in before the winter quarter starts.

>>162610298
I'm not sure if you can actually do this to an actual person, but I've done it with the AI on normal difficulty. You just bait the enemy cavalry with some slingers are other squishy unit and pull them back behind the hoplite line as they charge
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>>162621261
>hitting a man while he is engaged in combat with another man
Filthy shamefu baka gaijin detected
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>>162621084
>le ebin vlad
I wanted to do an epic Orion (or rather Durthu) too, but wasn't motivated to keep the meme alive.
and I killed it before anyway
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WAAAAAGH
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trees
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>>162621043
I'm 57% certain that it works
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And so it is at Kradtommen the last of the Dawi will make their final stand; the mountain folk will fight one last battle in a vain attempt to hold back the ever-expanding forest before being buried beneath the tendrils of its ever-expanding worldroots
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If our daimyo is to become shogun. Military ruler of all Japan.
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>>162621612
fear the trees
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wat do
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>>162621774
Don't fuck trees.
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Do wood elves units have good banter?
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>>162621043
>>162621656
W-why would you want to d-do that to a tree? Th-that's lewd, you d-don't know what w-we want.
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>>162621827
I'll have you know I sexually identify as a tree kin
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>>162621109
Our numbers love Vlad
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>>162621109

Something not wood elves please.
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>>162621860
Trees would kill you.
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>tfw no 19th century to early 20th century TW
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>>162621928
>>162621603
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>>162621961
>soon
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>>162621862
or Morghur or whatever
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>>162621941
>tree with tits
are you fucking kidding me
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>>162621941
damn, time to fap
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>>162622168
>tree
it's a dryad tho
>>162621961
>Teddy Roosevelt as LL
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>>162622248
>historical game
>LLs
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>>162621109
Rolling for this shit
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1st for the sacrifice
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>>162622332
>azhag

LOLOLO NO. Reroll.
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>>162622321
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>>162622448
A toe infection could have killed him
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time to play Pontus, no experience with EB though so this is going to be a short campaign

on an unrelated note, why are the dryads so ugly in warhammer? I was hoping for qt forests spirits not angry twigs
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>>162622321
>not wanting based historical LL
>>162622248
>Baron Ungern LL
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>>162622724
He was too beautiful for this world.
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>>162622745
fucking typical, this is why I dread playing med2
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>>162622745
They're setting precedent for making the best elves and slaanesh demons ugly so they don't go to bong jail for making illegal porn
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>>162622869
>best elves and slaanesh demons ugly
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162622882

>Tilea still alive that late in the game.

For what purpose.
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>>162622760
Nice taste anon
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Goblin Archers or Orc Arrer Boyz?
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The Red Duke appears to be a free win in multiplayer.
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>>162621791
>Norse Band
RIP
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>>162622882
REMOVE BARK remove bark
you are worst bark. you are the bark idiot you are the bark smell. return to aethl loren. to our athel loren cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the woods….ahahahaha , treemen we will never forgeve you. king's glade rascal FUck but fuck asshole bark stink athel loren sqhipere shqipare..bark genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead bark..ahahahahahELVES WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget deforestation .oak of ages we kill the god-king , elves return to your precious woods….hahahahaha idiot bark and elf smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE BARK FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. estalia+dwarf+greenskin+beastmans=kill elf…you will deforestatio/ morghur alive in estalia, morghur making shithouse of estalia . fast rape morghur estalia. we are rich and have aids now hahahaha ha because of morghur… you are ppoor stink bark… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a tree
morghur alive numbr one #1 in estalia ….fuck the bretonnia ,..FUCKk ashol barks no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and contry. morghur aliv and real strong wizard kill all the bark farm aminal with rape magic now we the estalia rule .ape of the zoo presidant georg orion fukc the great durthu and lay egg this egg hatch and athel loren wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. estalia greattst countrey
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Ayyo, Total War: Bronze Age when?
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>>162623620
please stop posting this it hurts me
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>>162623416
nah senpai I got it

doggos and flanking with slingers/skirms are probably what saved me
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>>162622745
>>162622834
well the game launched on the third attempt and we are already doing pretty well, managed to destroy a large rebel force nearby

the annoying thing is though that the game has performance issues on my PC, what the fuck, I had to seriously lower the graphics settings

my entire army being skirmishers is rather awkward too
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>>162623620
>Chaos Dwarf and Pygmy factions DLC concept art.jpg
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>>162623929
>there will never be Amazonians invading the land and slaughtering all the males in the world while having massive hedonist lesbian orgies
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Hole up, lads.
So I just checked and the Ottomo tercos has an upkeep of 150 and a melee attack of 12 along with 8 armor.
This is the same melee attack as a katana samurai and actually superior armor.
Added to all that tercos are armed with muskets as well.

So let me get this straight. I can actually field an entire army made up of tercos and beat the crap out of all them samurai even in melee?
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>>162623338
quick battles or multiplayer, in the vampires defence thats a shit list anon
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>>162623338
>losing most of your army
>free win
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>>162622882

Humanity BTFO
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>>162624125
>beat the crap out of all them samurai even in melee?

>imblying the dirty japs can even reach the glorious tercio
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>>162624127
I've been having great success with it, only time I've lost so far is to Red Duke and a hacker.

>>162624218
Except I played him perfectly, killed his Blood Knights before they did anything, dropped a Manticore on his corpse cart and crushed his beasts with concentrated ranged fire.

Then Red Duke just summons up 8 units of fresh zombies and wins anyway.
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>>162624334
>can't deal with zombies

anon...
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>>162624280
>those fucking kills
>70 losses

admit it, you modded them.

There's no shame in it, I did it too.
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>>162624412
No lad, I did not
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>>162624404

>Why can't your exhausted half dead elf melee block dead with 5 fresh units of zombos and an unkillable legendary lord :^)
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>>162623338
I would suggest removing hawk riders against vampires, they are useless if the enemy has any kind of flying unit

Hell, they are alreasy barely useful when the enemy has flying units, if you use them bats they become better, but they are much more expensive than bats
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>>162624507
>bringing 4 wardancers, a hawk rider, and only one wild rider in MP

you deserved your loss
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>>162624484
How did you do it?
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>>162624484
How'd you pull that off?
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>>162624280
>>162624412
>>162624484
>>162624620
so this... this is the power.. of Athel Loren....
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>>162624484
How did you attain such a victorious status?
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What are the shittiest Welf units right now?

I would say Hawk Riders, Waywatchers and Wildwood rangers

>Hawk Riders
They shoot too few arrows to be if significance, at best they only manage to bleed a unit, at worst they are useless expensive bats

>Waywatchers
No explanation here that wasnt already given

>Wildwood Rangers
Before you rage at this pick, rangers do kind of suck.
You either use them for anti large or anti armor, thing is,wardancers with Spears do a better job against large units and armored units usually WIN against wildwood rangers (chaos warriors, black orcs,anything above dwarf warriors in the dwarf roster) so, why should I take this underwhelming unit over one more wardancer or two glade riders?
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>>162624885
Waywatchers aren't shit right now, just too expensive. Hawk Riders/Great Eagle/Wildwood Rangers are the real turds of the Welf roster
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>>162625001
Waywatchers are supposed to be expensive

CA just panic nerfed hawk riders and Waywatchers at some point if development
They probably thought that ranged units with such skirmishing capabilities would break the MP and got heavy handed with the elves
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I'm starting to think Dwarfs just ruin multiplayer.
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>>162624752
huh, you're .... pretty good.
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>>162625339
Ffs remove that fucking hawk rider unit
Its triggering me
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>>162625416

But the hawk riders did well, they harassed his artillery the entire time and kept them from getting many shots off.
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>>162625339
Why you even bothered to bring eternalguard and wardancers against dwarfs?

Just meme them with ranged units
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Dur"if it has long ears, give me the shears"thu
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>>162625339
>losing against a dwarf player who brought thunderers

Get rid of the hawk riders
get rid of the wardancers
get more wild riders to meme on their artillery and rear charge
bring more eternal guard for cheap ap
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>>162625481
So you spent a 1000 to have a unit that does what bats do for 1/3 of the price

Just get a fucking dragon instead
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Pay no attention to the massing of our troops near your border silly Brettonians
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PHOTOSYNTHESIZED
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>>162625830
>that Norsca
fucking beautiful m8
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>>162624752
Show Badlands
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>>162625830
>not SEEDED

Nice job though.
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>>162625830
With Sacrificial grounds in every possible outpost (I might have missed some)
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>>162621709
And here I was expecting to cover the badlands in lush forests.
Fuck you, lazy CA devs.
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>>162626043
cont
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>Time Commanders brings Total War back to TV tonight
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/12/12/time-commanders-season-3-starts-tonight/

Where can I watch this if I'm not in England? Will it be on youtube?
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>>162626268
>tonight

it was yesterday you fool
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What's the significance of Karak Eight Peaks?
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>>162626372
ANSWER ME
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>>162626372
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Consider the following
>halve wood elf unit sizes
>double their reload times
>quadruple their damage
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>>162626556
Nothing can possibly go wrong
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>>162626268
Read the previous threads. There's plenty of answers on "how to for dummies".
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>>162625192
fuck the mp d e s u >:D
sp is 90% of the playerbase
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>>162624752
Did you get any followers? In your lord tab i mean.
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>>162626514
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:cdaf373ef1166aedf4c1ef3d38c4c6730d0d41e7&dn=Time.Commanders.s03e01.Rome.EN.SUB.MPEG4.x264.WEBRIP.%5bMPup%5d&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fzer0day.to%3a1337%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2fglotorrents.pw%3a6969%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80%2fannounce

enjoy
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>>162626501
Nothing

Everything
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>>162626667
Don't click this gave me HRT
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>>162626501
>Karak Eight Peaks
Just another monument of civilizations downfall!
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>>162626667
>>162626586
Thank you both.
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>>162626667
>magnet
how the fuck does it work?
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total war: memes fucking when?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW-SlJkbv8w
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>>162626868
you should be able to click it and it'll appear in your torrents
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>>162626501
a tomb for 3 lesser races
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>Skarsnik garrisons are still bugged

for fuck sake
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>>162626957
I think he was just memeing m8.
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>>162626968
hahaha fuck gobbos
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>>162624885
Hawk Riders are amazing in melee.

Eagles are complete shit in comparison (and in general).
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>>162625830
what difficulty and how many turns? Seems like a really slow campaign so far.
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>>162626990
I wouldn't be surprised if people were actually that stupid here
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>>162625492
Eternal Guard have AP damage.
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>>162627065
But if that was the case he would probably not be quoting "Miracles"
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>>162626890
>aoe theme.
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>>162627042
not that anon, but the pace really picks up after you get the other elven factions, you'll be rolling in money and can just steamroll everyone building sacrificial altars and the more you build the more you steamroll, I dropped my campaign after I conquered all of bret, norscan and estalian lands, with some empire provinces here and there and by that point my wardancers could easily beat any other unit due to all the buffs
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Is there a mod that adds some PoC?
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>>162627287
some wot?
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>>162626957
I was actually just memeing, but now I feel bad :^(
stop being so nice, anon
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>>162627312
People of Color you /pol/tard
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>>162627312
Prisoners of Conquest
Peperoni on Cannelloni
Penis on Cunt?
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>>162627383
what's a /pol/tard?
>>162627393
oh that makes sense
i guess
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>>162627312
niggers
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>>162626501
AHHHH Karak Eight Peeks
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>>162627467
>>162627456
>>162627393
God yous are some toxic guys baka
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Is today the day for more news?
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>tfw locked in by the strongest faction in the game

How do I get out of this situation understanders?
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>>162627287
Have you tried playing bioware games instead?
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>>162627740
Make friends like you've never made friends before
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>>162627740
Let them fight chaos.
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>>162627740
Go to war with Grimgor and become supreme ruler of all Greenkins.
Bribe Grimgor from time to time and conquer shit elsewhere.
Go north and take over Karak Drag, fuck up Norscans and Archaon.
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>>162627684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vifYelSTlMo
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Jesus that was intense. I won despite my mistakes. Elite Tor Spears are pretty fucking awesome.
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>>162627740
Pay them off as much as you can when you can. Fight people they don't like, push for treaties, pray they don't drown you in doom stacks.
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>>162627880
>playing a black faction

for what purpose?
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>>162628096
to culturally enrich obviously which means raping
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>>162628096
>being racist against pixels
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1v1 ME GOAT
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>>162628270

>Implying you can do it
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>>162628270
>read it as Burt Squigfart
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>>162628096
because paladins nigga.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzsfyxACV7M
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>>162628270
You're gonna choke on his spear.
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>>162628270
enjoy getting one hit by his forest javs matey
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>>162628096
To see twice as many dead niggers.
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Athenian polis> Spartan polis
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>try and capture cute welf waifu

>turns out she's a dude

what do you do?
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Well
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>>162628617
switch from rape mode to tender loving child-rearing mode
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>>162628631
poor little gobbo
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>>162628498
That pajama party went nowhere.
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>>162628617

What the fuck is up with all the retarded translator notes
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>>162628631
did you at least zig zag?
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I have such a huge boner for war horns

WE NEED MORE WAR HORNS PLEASE CA
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>>162628631
>their shame is on you
>TWH2 flashback reel begins
>it ain't me starts playing
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>>162628617
This changes nothing

You slaughter it for the glory of Khorne of course
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>>162628791
this, and war drums

shogun's war drums gave me hard ons
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>>162628826
Why is Nurgle sitting on Khorne's chair?
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>>162628791
>warhorns
>not peasants kept alive but envelopes by tree branches
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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The maze, Dolores
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>>162628791
>Chaos war horn sounds
>The chosen scream "Blood For the Blood God, Skulls for the Skull Throne" in a chorus.

my dick when
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>>162628827
>>162628872
>>162628985

I re-watch the whole battle of pelennor fields from time to time just for those sweet rohan and haradrim horns
>>
>>162628976
Please, stop. This isn't funny. If there's supposed to be a joke here I don't understand it, and apparently neither does anybody else.
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some of those wardancer animations are really cool, they spin around, kick people, leap on them, though most of the time they just stand around

>>162628605
well yeah, even when it comes to warfare there are greeks more accomplished than the spartans
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>>162629042
I do, but you need to have watched the show.
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Reminder that Tomb Kings is least popular
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>start S2
>latest news and reviews
>tfw
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>Finally get a chance to play the Wood Elf Campaign
>First few turns, everything is going good. Playing as Durthu.
>Beastmen come, handle it well.
>All the other factions around me are happy.
>Trade everywhe-
>Orion steps in
>I WANT THE OAK OF AGES
>Declares war.
>what
>all of a sudden all the other Elves start declaring war on each other
>Everyone is fighting.
>Have to focus on keeping Orion away from the Tree.
>Haha time for Morghur
>GIMME DAT TREE
>Smack Orion away
>Smack Morghur and his four doomstacks away
>All the other Elves are raiding shit
>no money
>Orion comes in again
>haha gimme dat tree anicent

fucking elves
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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I'm allied with durthu as Orion, and the fucker is attacking every human faction in sight, brettonians or empire, forcing me to go to war with everybody.


Stop you fucking tree cunt, calm down
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>when you and your tree boys are so tight they let you get off a perfect shot
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>>162629190
Explain the joke
>>
>>162629198
Say that on a forum birch
>>
>>162629258

Durthu is an absolute madman to rival Marius Leitdorf
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>>162629332
That would ruin it, just watch the show.
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>>162629198

>least popular

AKA most patrician
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>>162629449
I watched the movie in the seventies and fell asleep.
>>
>>162629198
who are the other?
>>
>>162629258
just let him get himself out of position then take his settlement
>>
>>162629198

Ogre Mercenaries for every race

WHEN
>>
>>162629581
tip : they're small, they're angry, and they will NEVER EVER be in the game
>>
>>162629581
Araby, Nippon, Chaos Dwarfs, pre nagash TK
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>>162629190
Not everyone is going to watch a poorly rated American TV show just to get a niche joke one autistic phoneposter is trying to force upon everyone.
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>>162629581

Chaos manlets
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>>162629257
>He trusted knife ears
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>>162629637
That'll be 5th DLC for the 2nd game I reckon
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>>162629257
>>162629705
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>>162629619
and lose all his amber? I'll go bankrupt
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>>162629853
>getting to the stage where you're reliant on his amber
You fucked up, you gotta take his settlement in the first 20 or so turns
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>>162621109
'ERE WE GO!!!
>>
Gr8 Eagle or Forest Dragon?
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>>162630092
I have a dwarf ally , giving me his amber and being nice and comfy in his fortress, why the fuck Durthy goes full sociopath tree mode?
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Truly the AI's most powerful weapon
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>>162630264
git gud
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>>162630194
Because he's literally Hitler:The Tree, he sees all others as destroyers of nature
>>
>>162630194
he's had a hard life
>>
>>162630264
>Just won impossible battle against AI
>this happens
every damn time
>>
Should I be concerned about what post-battle option I pick (replenish, ransom, etc) in relation to what traits I get in TWW?

Replenishing is apparently bad in Attila
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>>162630667
I wouldn't worry, I do think you can get some traits from it but it's kind of random how they pop too?

Just use what ever you need most at the time and push on.
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>>162629257
that's the reason why you genocide everything as rape trees
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>>162630667
Some traits depend on that, but I think you can balance it out by sometimes releasing or killing instead of taking on captives.
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>>162628976
This isn't funny, you're being a faggot. Kindly stop.
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>>162628976
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>want to start a civil war in Rome II grand campaign
>all political factions far too submissive.

Its across actually too much work to create a problem.
>>
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>>162621961
Not for two years minimum.

I can't wait that long.
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>Thorgrim always wins the Badlands
>Belegar always outlives the Cucked Moon
GREENSHITS BTFO
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>>162621961
>ww1

fuck ww1. 1845-1890 is the best time for a new TW.

>European Revolutions
>Prussian Wars
>Crimean War
>Latin American Revolutions
>Mexican Wars
>American Civil Wars

thoug they did that timeline in Shogun 2, so it's not gonna happen soon.
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>>162628617

This
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PENDULUMED
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>>162628605
No

Can't even use the acropolis
>>
>>162631513
I don't get it, what lever?
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>>162631704
In Dwarf Fortress you can operate traps via levers. So the floor under him might give way, or he could get a drawbridge on his head or whatever.
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>>162631805
Good to know, haven't played DF so I'm not retarded for not understanding the joke
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>>162631985

Whatever you need to tell yourself anon
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>Wood elves are suppose to excel while fighting in forest
>most of their arrows hit threes thus making archers useless

Really?
>>
>>162632134
>elves are useless idiots
CA did nothing wrong.
>>
>>162632134
CA's going to change that I hope ;_;
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>>162632235
this

I can't wait to burn down the oak of ages as the dwarfs
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>>162631248
Remainder that the wood all elves crave grows in the Badlands
>>
>sisters of thorn have to wait two minutes to use there slow down abilty
>majority of cav engages are literatly over by then

what's the fucking point
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>>162632235

>elves are useless

Oh I can think of some uses for them
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How did you guys go about the Wood Elves mini campaign? I thought I had already won the damn thing, but then my Bretonnian allies started wars with each other and I lost so many Ambers in the process that the number went into the red. Now I'm thinking about reloading an older save and just outpost all the Orks in the mountains to secure my supply.
>>
>>162621109
Trying this as I have no idea who to play as.
>Beastmen
Shitty early game and getting your horde going takes fuck knows how many levels
>Orcs, Dorfs
Starts in the fucking middle east with areas being seperated by fuck knows how many turns
>Chaos
Just autoresolve everything lel
>Vampire cunts
Just stall at the beginning, proceed to get buttfucked by Chaos afterwards
>Wood elves
Fucking elves
Haven't tried empire yet, though.
>>
>>162629190
I watched it and still don't get it. Explain, please.
>>
>>162632423
ASMR scalp massages??
>>
which building unlocks the wild hunt stuff?
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>>162632537
Empire can be annoying because of Skarsnik and Beastmen herds quite early in the game
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>>162632674
The horn makers
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time for grudges
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What's with the err... bretonnian dance sir?
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>>162632908
Stop bullying the dawi!
>>
>>162621109
Rolling
>>
>>162622386
WUT is that the same person????? has that history fag become a uhhh.. transfag?
>>
>>162621109
rollan
better not be fukn dwarves again
>>
>>162633072
Top: Historical
Bottom: Fantastical
>>
>>162633072
Nice to see you visit these threads regularly
>>
>>162632991
no
go wash yourself b4 i do it for you
>>
by jupiter we have them
>>
>>162632908
based
>>
>>162632990
I love Kruber and Saltzpyre's tense friendship
>>
>>162633072
10/10 adds more cringe to a show pitting wrestlers against boad game players
>>
>>162632673

Deep, DEEP massages of a different sort
>>
>>162633127
lel

>>162633130
i have.. but i clearly missed that part. i knew there was a trance somewhere, but gave it no attention. until i saw that picture

>>162633332
are the newer episodes available on youtube?
>>
>>162633412
turns out it has already been updated despite only airing yesterday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_ZU4R3meQ0
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>>162631482
>playing as Austria
>intense battle against the Russians
>smoke and explosions everywhere
>suddenly the line infantry from Prague drops their weapons and leaves
>meanwhile on the left flank my troops start shooting each other
>the Hungarians think the Germans are Russians and vice versa
>after a while and some hundred dead or wounded they figure out they're on the same side
>start shooting the Polish cavalry sent to support them by accident
>all while the Italian marching band plays patriotic music to inspire our troops
>>
I really love playing the Beastmen campaign. I don't really go for the victory conditions until later, I just love faffing about as the Beastie Boyz make some noize
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Reminder that /twg/ is an anti-anime general
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>>162633616
*uploaded
other than that this is your best bet for the latest episode:
>>162626667
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The maze, Dolores
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>High tier WELF army bullys non-Spaniards
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>>162633757
>>162628976
>>
>>162633704

I would really love a Horde mode for greenskins, why wasn't bloody handz a savage orc horde..
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>>162633757
Ill be honest with you m8, I dont like this meme.
>>
>>162634024

no one except the retard posting it does, anon
>>
>really like the look of TW:W
>really wanna play it
>last time I bought a TW game it was FoTS
>only played it for 30 mins
Wat do, anyone got a pirate bay link?
>>162633980
IF we can code the Huns to settle we can do the alternative
>>
>>162633127
shhh, no hetairoi now, only monstrous cav
>>
>>162634098
>pirate bay
>he doesn't know
>>
>>162633757

Stop.

No one watches your fucking flavor of the month normie show.
>>
>>162634098
its cracked on linux
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>>162633757
Serolod, ezam eht
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Can love bloom on the battlefield, /twg/?
>>
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/
What would you say to these people
>>
>>162634024
i made that image but i can't comprehend why this guy keep posting it in every thread
>>
>>162634287
Not worth the full price
>>
>>162634198
>>162634098
>>
>Co-op partner doesn't supply you with any amber
>Game says it does
>Some turns you randomly gain their amber then it disappears the following turn

This seems like a bug.
>>
> mods still not updated

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>162634378
The game specifically says that you don't get any amber from your co-op partner, although you're correct about the counter being bugged out in MP campaigns.
>>
>>162621261
>hurr durr what is bushido
shamefur
>>
>>162634493
It does but it also conflicts because ingame when you hover over their settlements it says they are supplying you with amber. It's annoying because my ally taking settlements is now denying me amber.
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So when we finally get dork elfs what is their unique mechanic going to be?

Slaves?
>>
>>162621109
BY JUPITER NOT STUNTIES
>>
>>162632990
>>162634024
I appreciate any and all Vermintide posting, you're both good anons.
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>>162634736
nah, something about mobile Settlements and going full gi-joe operator base through the seas, AKA, giant ass ships called black arks.


ok, that sounds cool as fuck now that I think about it
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>>162634753
Pooopooopeepooo
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>>162634736
Slaving yeah if we're actually not getting navy for whatever lame reason, because other than that, their biggest deal is being fuckin pirates.
>>
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Second_Day_of_Festag_2016


dank news

what does it mean
>>
>>162634918
>Dark Elves become pirate raider faction
I'm okay with this
>>
>>162621109
rollin, already did grimmy, skarsnik and nazi trees
>>
>>162634918
Man I still miss WAR, goddamn you to eternal hells EA.
>>
so when and where will they upload the time commanders bit with matt, lindy and skall? they said its a web only thing so it wont be on the actual channel
>>
>>162630667
I've gotten some bad traits by repeatedly slaughtering captives, particularly as greenskins (but it didn't matter because income was a joke and public order was more lads to bash)
Dwarfs murdering greenskins seem like they can get bad traits too, all my province generals kept becoming untrustworthy
>>
>>162634918
Seconding Black Arks. It'll be a naval horde with a unique defensive siege map.
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>>162633616
thanks anon
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>>162635006
Have fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWTaaS7LdU
>>
>>162635016
there's Return of Reckoning tho.
>>
>>162635079
Untrustworthy has a massive % chance on killing captives, it's fucking dumb and I pray that some day better trait triggers will get updated or done by someone who cares more and keeps their shit up to date.
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>>162635016
>Man I still miss WAR, goddamn you to eternal hells EA.
THIS, damn it could be the nostalgia googles but I played the fuck out every MMO in the market and the only one I have really good memories is WAR.


what the hell I miss my Black orc
>>
>>162635148
I know anon, been playing on there for a while and it definitely makes me happy someone finally got off their asses and made a server that works, I can still be mad at the cunts who ran it into the grave in the first place though.
>>
>>162634978
it means mike simpson is shitposting.
>>
>>162635391
what's RoR like?
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>>162635391
I suppose, It has qt elfs tho.
>>
>>162634978
Khazzyboy is about to get

WIGHTED
>>
>>162635079
Any bad experience with ransom?
>>
>>162635550
BONED
>>
>>162635081
If they really wanted it to be unique then it would be a naval horde which can house a regular army in it, essentially making it a mobile city. The downside would be that it moves at half the speed of regular armies in the ocean due to its size. DE campaign gameplay would be moving your Black Ark around the coast, raiding fake Spanish/French/Scandis, acquiring slaves and then slinking back into your Ark out at sea. Conquering land would make slave camps on minor settlements akin to wood elf seeded areas and major settlements would create Dark Elf Colonies. Major settlements on the shore spawn a slave camp and a new Black Ark.
>>
>>162633845
>high-tier
>Dryads and glade riders
>>
what happens if someone who you have a non aggression agreement with attacks someone in my defensive alliance?
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>>162634736

Slaves, fleets, high mobility, fast-moving, lots of offensive magic, absolutely garbage defense and stamina

Maybe some unit abilities to increase the number of captives taken in battle so they can be used as slaves to run their economy
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whats the best place to watch time commanders?
outside of UK ofcourse
>>
>>162636064
Youtube. Alternatively, there's already a few torrents out.
>>
>>162636064
here >>162626667

or if it's live just use the beeb add on for chrome and watch it on the bbc website
>>
>>162636056
you dirty delfs will be another horde faction, the true slaving faction are chaos dwarf
>>
>>162635613
I always ransom with my empire lords against rebels and other provinces and I haven't seen much happen as of yet
>>
>>162626968
What's wrong with them?
>>
>1-3 hayasdan
>4-6 parthia
>7-9 pontos
>0 kill myself for thinking of playing pontos
>>
wtf harpies are terrible
>>
Are there any mods that make the chaos campaign more bearable?
>>
>>162633720
By Sigmar, NO!!
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Someone said that Orion can only pick up and skewer Dwarfs
This is not true because he can do it to any infantry and unmounted characters
Also he has an annoying melee attack where he throws his spear in front of him but dorfs are so short that it flies over any lord's and hero's head
>>
>>162636564
no agressive agent actions is all you need
>>
>>162636564
a couple, there is one that removes the stupid attrition from being too close to each other
>>
>>162637063
psst nothen person'l kiddoh
>>
>>162635532
Pretty neat, they've been making progress pretty well for a while now, everything from T1 to T4 works now, scenarios have worked for a while, they've reworked some shit that was janky in the real game, it's cool. Last time I played it was kind of a crapshoot on if any given world quest would fire off all it's mechanics and triggers right, but I've heard even that's gotten better as they go.
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>>162636056
>return of Rome 2s slave mechanic
>but instead of Public Opinion fuckery it actually increases your income
>encourages raiding and piracy, doesn't punish slaving

>dormant Delf players will suffer economically due to lack of labour
>>
>>162637063
Stunties BTFO
>>
>>162637063
Orion also wins the charge-stun against any Unmounted/Normal sized lord.

He ragdolls Beastmen Generals like crazy
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PULLO!
>>
so Darren just posted on leddit claiming that the 20 or so top modders get advance versions of patches/dlc,

"Hey all,

Just to weigh in on this, we send both modders and YouTubers early access to DLC. For modders, we send about 20 of the biggest modders (the guys with the most subscribed to mods and the most trusted) the DLC ahead of time so they can update their mods to prevent save games breaking on launch for people who keep the mods turned on."


so who are these top 20
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>>162637286
>>162636056

Their tech tree could allow you to build slave-breeding pens in order to keep your slave population from declining too rapidly
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>>162637435
Radious
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>>162637435
Are there even 20 people modding to beginnwith
>>
>>162637370
Does he count as large?
>>
>>162637435
Radious ofc

The one guy who spams cheat mods with the stupid anime icon
>>
>>162637538
I wish I knewHis spear tossing counts as artillery though
Enemies get the "attacked by artillery" leadership debuff from having spears chucked at them
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>>162637516
>>162637591
>Make a decently sizeable mod that people asked for a lot pretty quick at launch and keep it updated frequently
>It's got a bunch of people subbed to it now and it's my only one really
>Look at my comments on any given day
>DO IT WERK WIT RADIOUOUOS? x10000000

I want to put these people in camps by this point.
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So do you think any of the other factions will have Wood Elf style capturing mechanics?

I could see Chaos Dwarfs and Lizardmen having similar mechanics.
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>>162637591
kek.
this is true
>>162637435
dresden, kam, Cataph.
maybe mousillanon.
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>>162620986
>Garrison gets attacked my mememen
>Manage to fuck up most of their army and all but their lord retreat
>Their lord kills up to 350 of my men before he retreats
Fucking lords and their high damage resistance
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>elfs wear pantsu

Good to know
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>>162637818
well tell us what mod
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>>162637841
Lizardmen I bet will have some kind of mechanics around protecting and listening to the slann.
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>>162637520
>>162637591
>>162637516
>>162637856

I had 2 of my mods in top 5 mods of all time for 2 months, mentioned/spotlighted by ca in one of their mod weeklies,over 60k subscribers and a heap of the big boi tw youtubers did videos featuring my mods too. And I'm not in the pantheon of god kings chosen 20

I guess it's because I frequent these damn chinese woodcutting forums too often,
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>>162638059
yeah.
you really don't need your mods updated except maybe enabling B&G
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>>162638059
It would be funny as f*ck if the top 20 mods getting early update access are like "Home Region Movement Bonus" and "Better Camera Mod"
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>>162637435

Radious
Radious
Radious
Sir Radious
Radious the Great
Radious, King of Modding
Radious, Lord of Black Orc Arrers
Radious, Bringer of Armored Slayers
Radious, the Man with the Plan
Radious, It's just not fun without it
Radious, "I like big armies and lots of them"
Radious, "The lore? More like the BORE!"
Radious, "But it's accurate to Radious mod lore!"
Radious, "I give up"
The Artist Formerly Known as Radious
Radious, "Just slap a different head on it, they'll eat it up anyways"
Radious, Beloved of Arch
Radious, I'm out of ideas for fake quotes
Cataph
Probably dresden or some other loser.
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>>162638208
>f*ck
This isn't fucking Sunday School
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>>162638208
funny as h*ck haha
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>>162638208
>trustworthy
Its fucking dresden
of course he is getting the DLC early.
>>
How do we make Total War great again?
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>>162637476
>tfw no dark elf mistress
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>>162638505
my only concern was the shitty poopoo peepees

but now that hippy elfs are around is all perfect
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>>162638505

with and Age Of Sigmar update
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>>162638505
The Empire gets drummers and standard-bearers.

Whole series fixed.
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>>162638164
thats true anon, and I really couldn't care less I'm not in the secret club with radious and that fucking anime cheatmod guy(no doubt)
But Darren did claim they were sent to popular modders ect ect to prevent mods breaking, and my mods did get broken by blood(and one other time) .

>>162637818
my favourite part is when you put in caps, WORKS WITH X in the description, and the comments still don't stop asking.

thanks Radiouss

anyway even though I took the name off its still borderline namefagging so gonna put a hold on it, just thought it was an interesting point that Darrens statement wasn't 100% what happens
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>>162638590

>wanting someone to treat you as literal property
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>>162638505

Wait for all the content and factions for Warhammer to be out.

Wait a bit more for modding to be more or less "finished"

At that point Total War will be the best it ever has or probably ever will be
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>>162638649
>Sanguinary guard
I'm pretty sure that's 40k but they're close enough at this point
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>>162638750
Mistress and wife
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>>162638505
Post-Battle Sex Scenes
Just make it a cheap DLC to get around the ratings, right? ;-)
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>>162638776
this guy gets it.

also ca better be doing a christmas dlc sale
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>>162638747
what happened the other time?
I know B&G would break your mod because no gore.
what was the other one?
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>>162638776
This. It'll be New Vegas with mods tier good
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>>162638649
They said great, not fuckin terrible on all fronts.
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>>162632537
>proceed to get buttfucked by Chaos afterwards
????????????? how?
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>>162638957
I guess chaos corruption
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>>162638750
uh yes
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Are you fucking serious?

Who designed this shit? Every army is just cavs.
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>>162632327
Orcs don't have dicks
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>>162639138

Are those skulls for the skull throne?
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>>162639212
>>
>>162639212

Get the Better AI recruitment mod ASAP
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>>162621109
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>TW Youtuber posts an hour long SUPER CLOSE EPIC HUGE Third Age Total War battle that is just pikes/halberds poking at each other for 56 minutes until someone gets a lucky SUPER DEVASTATING FLAMING CATAPULT SHOT THAT JUST KILLED SO MANY UNITS WOW and wins
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>>162639329
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=789300954

This one?

I'm already using it.
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>>162639212
>Getting mad when the AI perfectly counters your PooPeemen army

get fucked beastie
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>>162639306
Skulls for Kane.
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>>162638841
I wish there was an option to let your men rape and pillage in addition to the loot/sack that would increase moral and whatnot
>>
is it possible to make melee units able to attack walls in this total war? (obviously I'm thinking giants and treeman/cygors)
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>>162639810
no

they can hit gates but not walls
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>>162640017
yeah I noticed, just thought it was weird my guys with the siege attacker trait could only hit gates!

I even looked in the database real quick to see if there was something I could tick but nope
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>>162639457
If the ai only has the building for pistolers then it will recruit what it can.

That's why this one is better.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=787066965
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>>162621109
pls no badlands boreskins
pls no chaos shit
pls no poo poo pee pee beast"men"
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>>162620986
>qt tree waifu edition
>tfw your dick will never be riddled with splinters after making love to a treefu

batman feels bruh, batman feels...
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Which race is best in Warhammer for the old Hammer and Anvil tactics?
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>>162640357
POO POO
PEE PEE
TIME FOR YOU TO PLAY WITH ME
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>>162640656
>Which race is best in warhammer

Empire

Your strategy doesn't matter
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>>162640656
Empire by far. Halberdiers and Reiksguard.
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>>162640746
FUCK YOU GOATMAN IMMA PAINT
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>>162640656

Dwarfs
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>>162640879
All anvil and no hammer
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>>162640656
Empire
Brettonia
Chaos although sometimes they are more "Hammer and Hammer"
Vamps are "Hammer and HP Sponge that constantly regenerates"
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>>162640747
>>162640869
>>162640879
Ill give it a go, havn't played much of it yet but so far im struggling with understanding unit roles with Elves and Vampires so i want to try a campaign using the classic tactics so i can get familiar with the game
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Alright so post welves empire start, what should I expect? Are wood elves just going to shit on everything and blob into wissenland? Should I use that mod that gives each empire state a unique look?
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>>162640926

Best Anvils

Best Hammers

Best Hammer and Anvil
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>>162640972
Dorfs are by far the easiest faction to play, but they have no cavalry, so mind that. Empire is your classic late medieval faction, but they also have wizards, battlepriests and griffons.
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>>162641039
From the single beastman campaign I've done since their release, Welfs confederate the other elves in less than 30 turns.
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>>162638059
what mods?
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>>162640962
>mfw Chaos Chosen with great weapons
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>>162641134
Too bad they walk 2 mph and you have to have exstensive skirmisher duels before you can flank the enemy lines because the dwarves have no cavalry to deal with enemy skirmishers.
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>>162640656
Wood elves, easily.

Their front line has op shields, armor piercing, and anti large. And their cavalry has fear, and op shields. For hammer and anvil the most useful stat is actually fear and moral breaking abilities. Plus you can spec generals to give ALL units +12/+12 melee and defence which is bonkers.
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>>162641039
The unqiue state mod looks really good, but I personally don't use it because I dislike how it makes your soldiers look super well armored when their stats don't reflect it.
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>>162640656
Probably Chaos. Super sturdy anvils with regular chosen and great cavalry and monsters for hammer.
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>>162641350
>best for hammer and anvil
>Wood elves, easily.
>>
>Decide to try a game as beastmen for the first time, siege magritta, capital of estalia
>turn 4, some elf ranger triest to spam assassinate one eye
>turn 6, large elf force AND durthu army both rush towards me, in estalia's southernmost place
So did welfs make beastmen impossible and have homing ai? Also can you ever attack their forest?
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>>162641350
t. Easy difficulty
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>>162641454
use your invisible camp
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>>162638841
>>162639684
I'd get it just for beastmen+elves to be honest
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>>162641350
What the fuck? Wild Riders are like the light shock cav of the Taukhids minus the good melee stats. They die super quick to anything.
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>>162641350
This is the most wrong answer of them all.
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>>162641230
the zombies one and the mousillon one would make sense.

>>162641039
I really like how it looks, an anon a few days ago made a mod collection of ALL of the decent cosmetic mods and I'd reccomend you that, but seems no one added it to the op!
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>>162621109
Rollan
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>>162641350
>Wood Elves

The best choice if you want that your anvil dies in less than a minute to any decent melee unit and your hammer dissipates from a little bit of ranged fire.
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I FUCKING KNEW THEY SHOULD'VE HAD SNIPE

CA have literally forgot to give it to them
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>>162641948

Literally fucking wot

CA you incompetent fucks.
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>>162637591
>The one guy who spams cheat mods with the stupid anime icon
this FUCKIN guy
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>>162641948
Imagine that against the dwarves. Unless they have plenty of gyros it would be unbeatable with their slow units.
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>>162642048
they are meant to have snipe and a reload buff when the enemy is closer than 75% of their range or something. Don't play the campaign unless you want uneccessary suffering.
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>>162639212
Legend basically deducted that the auto resolve happens in "phases" so missiles go first, so it basically favours missile armies

kinda shit but I guess that's how they "fixed" siege battles
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>>162621109

Rollan
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>>162641606
I escaped to behind a mountain and did that. D-boy walked straight for me.. but at least orion fucked off
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>Play VC after months of not touching the game
>Getting my units' emo pussy REKT'D by flaggellants

Holy FUCK. How do I counter these balding assholes? They hit harder as they die, they don't rout and they last longer the closer they are to dying. I'm thinking I made a mistake by expanding westward towards the empire.

I think I need to kill them fast but the highest tier unit at turn 32 that I have are Varghiest. Should I just turtle until I get to vargulf or maybe the reaper looking units?
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>>162642637
Hammer and anvil their aging boipuccis with some black knights
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>>162641701
We were talkin about it the other day but I don't think we ever actually made any good list.

>Unique Empire States
>Varied Zombies
>Varied Trees
>Moar Boar Variation

There was some other one that gave greenskins better looking shields with designs for different types like night goblins etc.
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>>162642637
Flagellants are specifically designed to counter VC units, anon. They have zero armor so the intended tactic is to fill them full of crossbow bolts before they reach your lines, but VC don't get that option. You just need to drown them in bodies and hope you come out on top until you can get some top tier cavalry and cycle charge them to death.
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>eternal guard loses to skeleton spearmen

Has there even been a JUST faction as the wood elves?
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>>162642865
Chaos Cosmetics was there too.
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>>162642952
Was surprised how well WElfs fair against them, the treekin just don't die and slaughter them.
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>>162641948
someone send this to their twitter or something please
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>>162641438
>>162641460
>>162641683
>>162641857

tfw you are the only understander of strategy. muh "elves are fragile archers" has rotted your brains. look at the stats and compare.

>>162641678
Wild riders edge out reiksguard 1v1, AND have fear AND have a much better shield AND are much faster.
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>>162642637
crypt ghouls rek fagellents and slayers with their poison damage
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>>162642865
yeah there was definately a list made into a mod collection, shitposters mighta scared the guy off tho after he posted

ill see if i can find the guys post, also you may as well replace varied zombs with either the lords/lordless mousillon pack. which incorporates that anyway
>>
>people fell for the wild riders are bad meme

They have insane impact damage plus great speed
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>>162643278
>plays on easy
>I-I-I'm the only true understander of strategy!!!! ;_;
This autism though
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But why?
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>>162643278
>look at the stats
>looking at the stats is how you 100% determine what a unit is good at and bad at

It's okay anon, not everyone can be a true understander of strategy, and I'm willing to bed you have more fellow Easy moders than us, the true /twg/s, have fellow legends.
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>>162642865
>>162643159
>>162643317
found it boiz, was posted in last thread.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576
can we get this in the next op. even if we cant agree with the guys specifics, its a good list for ne people to start looking through
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>>162643209
>half the emperor's army is flailing fanatics
baka
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Where is the fucking patch that fixes elves?

Where is it?
When?
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>>162642637
Using Lord filled with Grave Guards and Black Knights work the best. You just need to charge them up several time so they break. Keeping high number of cavalry in your stack might help. Otherwise, just spam spells.
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>>162643660
>It is now february
>Wood elf patch soon
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>>162643496
What's Bjornling doing in the Badlands?
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>>162643816
Steamrolling unwalled settlements, because Thorgrim was a mistake.
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>>162643816
chaos stuff probably
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>>162643774
Doubt nayone will give a shit by the Bretonnian release anon.
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>>162643816

Have you even played a campaign?

Bjornling in the sea near the Badlands as soon as the major Chaos Invasion begin.

Like, it's not random, this ALWAYS happens.
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>>162643774

FUCK OFF MAN
They will fix everything.
Hopefully soon.
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This is what happens when you attack trees.
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>>162644093
Why no treemen?
>>
wut do
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>>162644346
>military ally with more army vs defensive ally with less army

Remove Stirland
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>>162644346
Remove Stirland, but don't get involved that much. You want Talabecland to get weak so you can confederate them and start spamming those ebin Knights of the Sun.
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>>162644346
STIRLAND FOREVER LOYAL

FUCK THE OTTILIAN SCUM
>>
do you get any penalties for confederating as wood elves?
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>>162644982
Amber-wise it's sometimes more efficient to leave a faction as a military ally. Especially check if they have any of those level 5 capital buildings that consume amber to build.
>>
I want to git gud, /twg/. How fucked is Belegar's campaign on VH /VH?
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I feel like they went overboard with the Elven hero buffs.

The amount of army buffs you can provide with their lords is pretty ridiculous. I have no fucking idea how to start the GC as elves, I waited in ambush for the Bretonnia to come out of his castle, when he finally did I ambushed his 20 stack with 16, and I barely managed to win it, despite it being an ambush. No way I was able to follow up, and this was like turn 7.
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>>162644017
The only thing they really need to fix about them is to make their elite archers worth having compared to regular glade guard. Also Wild Riders would benefit from having anti-large, while Wildwood Rangers really need anti-infantry.
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>>162644179
in my experience, treekin fuck shit up at a faster rate

same with chaos spawn and giants
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>>162645294
Wild Riders do not need bonus vs large - they can already do pretty well vs most mid to high tier cav and can absolutely skullfuck enemy cav that doesn't get a good charge off on them.

Idk what needs to be done with Wildwood Rangers though, they need something more to set them apart from the wardancers w/ spears other than their armor + situational forest buff
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>>162645467
Giants are tankier and have fear.

Spawn probably do more dps, sure, but they're different.
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>>162645859
Wildwood Rangers had a perfectly good gimmick on the tabletop that CA decided to completely remove because reasons.
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>>162645294
maybe they should make regular glade guard worth having first
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>>162645271
I attacked the full garrison plus a stack. Just bring lots of archers and damage the foot soldiers on the walls enough that your eternal guards can quickly overpower the melee and then sweep away the archers. Then you have all your archers on their walls just raining down on the cavalry bellow until you run out of ammo. By that time there are so few left that the spears will take them easily. The AI can't handle sieges. Especially not when you have skirmish superiority and they have a lot of cavalry. They will not sally no matter what.
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>>162645294
see >>162641948, they've incomplete
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>>162646109
what is it?
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>>162645294
>wildwood rangers need anti-infantry

No. It's the exact opposite. They were designed on the tabletop as thoroughbred monster hunters from the ground up. Their entire backstory revolves around them fighting the biggest and angriest forest monsters that escape from Forest Auschwitz.
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>>162621109
01-13 GET
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>>162646238
They're Immune to Psychology and get an extra attack against any units that cause Fear or Terror. They're premium monster and character hunters as a result, something that's almost completely lacking from their TWW incarnation.
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>>162621109
Just finished my BASED GOLD MAGIC campaign, gimme something that's not greenskins.
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>>162646238
They had 1 extra attack against units that caused Fear or Terror. Effectively doubling their damage vs undead, Ogres and other scary stuff.

A horde of Wildwood Rangers was a very scary opponent to face if you played Vampire Counts, Tomb Kings or Ogre Kingdoms.
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>>162646427
Rollan was a mistake.
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>>162646129
They are good though
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>>162646431
Why the fuck did they remove that?

That would've made them super specialised, sure, but useful for something.
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>>162646550
SAY MY NAME.

SAY.

MY.

NAME.
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>>162646320
Who givesa a fuck about the lore, they have no role whatsoever curently. Asrai spears are cheaper and do a better job. Maybe if rangers had a ton of armour it'd be worthwhile.
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That was fast
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>>162646592
I don't know, I don't even think it's that hard to include.

Bonus damage vs units with this or this trait.
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>>162646320
Yeah the lore is fine and dandy, but gameplay is more important in this scenario. Also a dedicated monster-killer is probably also not half bad at fighting regular opponents in melee.
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>>162646856
>but gameplay is more important in this scenario

fuck off
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>>162646906
No. There will always be mods for autists like you.
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can someone please mod the waywatchers to have snipe?
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>>162644093
How do you even deal with horse archers? Just wait for them to run out of arrows like I did in rome2 with legionaires?
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>>162646320
>Forest Auschwitz

Why did this make me laugh
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>>162647057
They barely deal any damage to treekin
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>>162647057
I chase them and the ai lets me catch them every now and then.

Also most of them routed after i demolished everything else.
>>
Sorry if my question sounds noobish and stupid, I'm not deep into the warhammer role, but:
Is there any RoR units for either beastmen or welf available when we purchase the DLC?
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>>162647550
nope, only for dwarfs/orcs/vamps and empire
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>>162647613
Hmm, odd..Do you know if there are plans to add RoR units for them? Just seems odd that they don't have it. How about Chaos? Do they have RoR?
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Welf hotfix is out boyz
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5i4v7x/wood_elves_hotfix_beta_info/
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>>162647703
http://www.solegends.com/citrr/1rr07oreons/index.htm

it's possible I think, but I don't think they'll add DLC for DLC
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>>162647794
>Waywatchers are missing an ability, modders found it!

>No, there’s a placeholder in the code, but it wasn’t used for anything in the end.

so no snipe?
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>>162647794
>https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/5i4v7x/wood_elves_hotfix_beta_info/

> Updated the italian localisation

Fucking finally
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>>162647884
I would've think they'd include it as part of a free update or FLC for those who own the DLC already...

Will be super jewish if they actually pull a DLC for DLC.
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>>162647794
>Waywatcher buffs
>Wildwood ranger buffs
>all archers get more range
neat
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>>162648098
didn't someone post a picture of the tabletop guidebook saying they have the same range as quarrelers?
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I WANT VILITCH, FESTUS, VALKIA , SCYLLA, WULFRIK AND GALRAUCH AND I WANT THEM NOW !

ALSO CHAOS ROR !
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>>162647794
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Wood_Elves_Hotfix_Beta

Non-reddit link. Seriously though, do people really have such huge problems? These are MASSIVE buffs.
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>>162648153
Asrai longbows are the same range and have 1 less strength compared to dwarf crossbows I believe
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>>162648229
waywatchers were overpriced and wildwood rangers were shit, all the other changes were needless
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>They don't use March Stance 100% Cost

For real though, the game got times more enjoyable with one tiny ass mod. No more "heh heh catch me if you can :^)" march-attack-march yakkity sax horse shit from the AI.
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>>162648429
this going against the lore is going to annoy me now
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Which one is the best AI recruitment mod? Would you recommend it for first campaign?
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>>162648229

>Playing Wood Elves where you try and do that will likely end in defeat for all but the most canny player. Raiding and winning then giving up outposts as you move around the map to achieve your longer term objectives is an absolutely viable tactic and certainly one of the largest problems a player trying to play a traditional conquest-style game could struggle with the ideology of. It’s worth approaching differently and seeing how you get on.

Then why make Amber something that is constantly consumed rather than acquired and spent once? The Oak alone needs you to hold 8-15 settlements.
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>>162648159

no dlc for dlc, so no, you won't get them
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>>162648818
To be honest conquering everything was no problem at all. Sure, the AI can capture the outpost easily, but you can easily rebuild it in one turn because there's no chains you have to go up.
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>>162648159
Chaos needs more unit variety, especially the Norscans.
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>>162649098
>easily rebuild it

At half your armies strength and 7k gold, and thanks to constant spawning beast stacks you can lose 4 in one turn easily putting you into amber negatives. You've basically lost at that point.
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>>162648452
Eternal guard are shit so a recruitment cost reduction seems justified to me.
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>>162648452
Nothing about Welfs was particularly bad compared to Chaos or Dwarfs. CA probably don't give a shit about balance until the trilogy is complete. They've got Ogres, star dragons and Skaven to balance down the line.
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Who here /comfy/
>playing Rome 1
>watching HBO BBC Rome
>thread is going alright

Also is there any point to use skirmishers besides archers in Rome 1
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>>162648429
I have both army books right next to me.

>Asrai Bow: 30", S3, Armour Piercing, Volley Fire
>Dwarf Crossbow: 30", S4, Dwarf Crafted, Move or Fire

In game terms they have identical range, but this doesn't mean much as most non-gunpowder ranged units do. The crossbow hits significantly harder when an attack connects, as the jump from 3 to 4 is huge against your average target. The bow, however, will be much more likely to actually damage a target due to modifying armor saves. Dwarf Crafted means the firing unit doesn't suffer typical ranged combat penalties when reacting to charges, which is fairly well represented by Quarrellers being decent in melee. Volley Fire means that an extra rank of units is allowed to fire, meaning the bows will put more shots out in the same amount of time.

>crossbow has higher ranged damage but lower AP damage. unit is better in melee. has slower rof.
>bow has lower damage but significantly higher AP damage. unit is worse in melee but much more mobile. significantly higher rate of fire than crossbows.

Shazam, they're now actually balanced by pulling stats from the source material. The way it should be.
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Wait, Clan Angrund is allied to Orion off the bat? Is that fair for an Angrund playthrough?
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>>162649206
>not having a large amber surplus so that you can lose some outposts or an ally with no issues
shiggy
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>Gobbo archers
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What's this game? Fun game?
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>>162621109
Cmon Dudethu or Morghur. I'll even take Wurrzag
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>>162650734
Sure
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>>162621109
Gibs a big guy (for me) please
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>>162650809
No I already played Empire twice.
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>>162650852
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>>162628705
they PARTIED HARD tho
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Hello fellow Dawi! Let's go settle some grudges am I right?

There is this secret mountain pass only I know about that leads directly to the hated Urk camp, let's go fellow Dawi!
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>check out new elven units
>dem spears&shield
>get some weird lord of the rings vibes
>kinda looking forward to high elves now

Fuck, am I turning into a faggot?
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>>162632908
GET THE BOOOOOOK
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>>162650526
>forgetting unit stats like BS
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>>162630836
This, Durthu doesnt want fucking elves in his forest. I purged them all.
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Run you bearded bastards, the trees are coming
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>CA will never made Vladdy Daddy the faction leader for VC
>they will never revisit the old LLs and buff their abilities and bonuses
>Marienburg will never be a passive one-city province manned by jewish merchants and sailors
>Kislev, Princes, Tilea and Estalia will never have their own rosters
>factions will never have personalities you actually notice
>Empire provinces will never have unique units like in Call of Warhammer
>there will never be a mercenary system in the game because of Dogs of War
>there will never be naval combat because that's part of the Man-o-War franchise
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>>162650936
That is some good MSpaint work there bud
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>>162651839
High Elfs are more 80's high fantasy than LotR. Also it's Elfs, not Elves in Warhammer.
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>>162649802
I'm just painting some models, enjoying WE tears and waiting for the SFO mod to get updated.
Then it's going to be a rough time for knife-ears.
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>>162633720
Squig ball WHEN?
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>>162651659
Fellow Dawi, something doesn't seem quite right about Urist. He isn't screaming "KILL URKS", or "SETTLE EVERY GRUDGE" every other sentence, for one.
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>>162650542
Yep. I've no idea why, but at least you can just call it off whenever you feel like it.
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>>162652089
Noted, still think elves sounds better though.
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>>162651839
No
High Elves are manly as fuck, since they have tons of rape trains disguised as frontal melee units, unlike both other elven factions which rely on indirect combat

White lion, swordmaster of hoeth, phoenix guard, silverhelm, lothern sea guard

High Elfs best elfs
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>>162652037
You can see the shame of their ancestors in his face
and it makes me happy
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>>162652089
>Also it's Elfs, not Elves in Warhammer.
that's wrong faggot

they say elves in memehammer, but they say dwarfs and not dwarves
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>>162637435
Prometheus and Cataph updated insanely fast
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>>162652089

>Also it's Elfs, not Elves in Warhammer.

No it really, really isn't.

That only applies to Dwarfs.

Stop making shit up

>>162652227

Don't listen to him, he's clearly an idiot.
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>>162643396
Wildriders are the best flanking unit in the game, and they have fear and anti infantry to boot..
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>>162652089
at least get it right if you have to be a smartass, anon
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>>162650542

It helps a lot as it lets you send Orion on a journey of rape towards early enemies. Lategame it becomes a bother as the fucker starts wars left and right dragging you into them.
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>>162652264
High Elves are a bunch of stuck-up faggots.
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>>162639138
that delf is too well armoured
>>162639306
they're for the skull __fuck
>>
Proper Combat Mod
or
Longer Battles Morale Mod
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>>162652531
SFO
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>>162652037
>>162652270
Food for the trees
>implying trees eat shit
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TIME FOR REVENGE

THIS TIME I BROUGHT A FRIEND
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:(
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>>162652613
Not that anon, but I thought /twg/ said SFO is bad.
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>>162648229
>All be it that Wood Elves use magical arrows, they
>All be it
>>
What's this game?
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>>162652531
Ignore this idiot >>162652613 get Lorehammer which is the best mod by far.
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>>162652676

I GOT RANGED TOO NOW CUNT

Jesus christ this spell sucks
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>>162652816
>>162652613

You're both stupid
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>>162652816
Neither of those anons, but I know for a fact that /twg/ said Lorehammer is bad.
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>>162652816
>radious 2.0
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>>162621109
ROLL
>>
just finished my 3rd Shogun 2 campaign. That game is fucking awesome, but I want to branch out.

Attila or Rome 2?
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>>162652676
>>162652870
how are you both still low health?
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>>162653119
>Shitty slayer king

Fuck that
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>>162653163
Attila
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>>162653163
warhams
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>>162641948
They also forget to include the hawkeye finesse ability, I have to mod it in
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>>162653163
FoTs then warhammer
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>>162621109
Rollan.
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>>162653163
Attila
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>>162653201

ONE OF US ISN'T ANY LONGER

GOBBOZ 1- BEASTMEN -0
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>+20 range for all wood elf infantry archers

THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>
how similar is Da Big Waaagh to the weirdboy's psyker abilities in 40k? I never actually got to use my shaman in my orc playthrough so I don't really know the options. I know they didn't have a teleport spell tho, but is that cos it wasn't in fantasy to begin with?
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>>162653337
>Greenskins

Nah, just played them, rerollan.
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>>162621109
roll
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>>162653416
that's the way gobbo honor works!
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>>162652774
Wow what a shit situation to be in...
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Put around 100 hours into Warhammer at release, haven't touched it since then. Are all the monster and giant units still fucking shit?

Felt like the only good units were regular infantry with shields, a line of bows/guns if available and then a few bits of regular cav.
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>>162653426
huh
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>>162653335
Did a FoTs Saga run. Arty is stupid good, nothing could even reach my armies.
>>162653273
>>162653371
>>162653297
>>162653335
I'll do Attila and then maybe try warhammer
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>>162653631
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Wood_Elves_Hotfix_Beta
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>>162653631

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Wood_Elves_Hotfix_Beta

TLDR: All WElf infantry archers get range buffs, most get damage buffs, wildwood rangers buffed and eternal guard cost reduction.
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>>162653416
isn't it GOBBOZ 1- BEASTMEN -1 since you got speared the last time?
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>>162653626

But giants and monsters were never shit.

I mean, some of them are, like trolls and Varghulfs, but a lot of them are very useful, the Giant included.
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So are WElves gonna be OP after these changes?
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>>162622321
>>>historical game
>>LLs
Yes
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HAHAHAHA WHAT NOW YOU DWARVEN FUCKS
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>>162653896
more like actually ussable.
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>>162653872
Don't be a git
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SFO mod update when?
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I'll get back to you on that one, Edo senpai
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So has anyone actually bought the Warhammer dlc? The few pieces available so far are the price of a completely new game already, shit's getting out of hand pretty early.
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>>162652789
That's new levels of retardation.
Someone in this world, the very real world we live in, doesn't understand the term, "I'll bet"
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>>162654208
My inner jew is tingling
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>>162653993
I never understood what the hell those things behind him are. It's not like they're there to impale charging giants... because giants aren't real.
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>>162654495

Obviously the spikes were effective then.
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>they will never bring back pre battle speeches
Someone make a mod

http://youtu.be/AbmDLVFAaec
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>>162654208

The funny thing is, we haven't even actually fought a battle against each other yet.

I think this is his way of saying "I hate you so fucking much I wish I could declare war with you again"
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>>162654235
Free company is worth $8 alone, anon. It's like hastati, but with more ammo and range.
>>162654553
lel
>>
Gonna test out these hotfix changes boys.

Anybody have any specific 1v1's they want me to test?
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>>162654701
test some wildwood rangers for me, i'm happy with the archers
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>>162654495
It's a port, anon. They're designed to stop enemy ships from breaking through to land troops in what is most likely the only suitable staging area within a dozen miles.
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>>162654650
>Free company is worth $8 alone, anon.
Sounds like an Empire unit but why would you need that if there's a billion Empire ranged units already?
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>>162654650
you're better off just bring handgunners or swordsmen

free company are shit
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>>162654235
Every time I come back and play for 30 hours on a weekend makes me buy one of the DLCs.
I have them all now.
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>>162654235
I bought them all and have no regrets.
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>>162655128
Because none of the other ones are swordsmen with pistols.
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>>162654235
dont listen to the shills anon

youre better off going somewhere else for discussing the dlc
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G O B L I N S
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Durthu doing what he does best
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>>162654495
Pikes for giant enemy crabs.
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>>162653163

AttittA
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>>162654495
I very much doubt the historical accuracy of the gargantuan wooden spikes standing in the water (it's a 19th century painting), but I'm pretty certain it's supposed to depict the seawall that the French built to block off supplies coming into La Rochelle which they were besieging.

You can sort of see it in this depiction
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That's what you get for being cowardly hole dwellers
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So, how do I start a campaign as Welfs on VH/Legendary? There are no easy targets, everything is far away, once I cap it I can't defend it.
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God damn, I hate Dwarfs so fucking much
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>Chaos campaign hotfix never ever
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>>162656296
>>162656518
>cowardly hole dwellers
>elves literally hide in their gaywood fagforest for eternity
no better desu
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>>162656580
Infighting and horde growth?
Or are there actual bugs?
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>>162647703

>Only dorfs/orcs/vamps and empire
>What about chaos?

Please learn to read.
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>>162654208
>Edo
>going Imperial

boy, they must've been out of enemies to fight
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>>162649120
Norscans probably won't ever get more variety since CA are too lazy to animate flails.
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>>162652074
If you wanna play Tilea/Estalia/Border Princes just use Cataph's mod for that, I've been messing around with it today and it's pretty neat.
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Wildwood vs Black Orcs
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>>162656687

More like hot fixing the entire campaign
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>>162652816

I hate Lorehammers EVERY BATTLE IS A SIEGE BATTLE

because sieges in warhammer are about as fun as shaving your balls with a cheese grater
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>>162657007

Surprising result. Also I learned there is a version of Always Strikes First in the game for Elves, the Wildwood Rangers absolutely evaporated the first line of Black Orcs on the charge with 0 damage taken.
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>>162656039
It's fairly accurate, it was the only way to prevent disembarkation from enemy vessels if you didn't want to ruin your port and make a mole.
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>>162657158
Pretty sure he changed that so only rank 2 of the garrison chain gives walls again.
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>>162656639
Going to feel an unholy amount of pleasure in removing the whole dirty lot of them for the glory of the horned rat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsZhYiCNfA
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>>162657338

if so I might give it a go again sometime
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>>162657209

Another surprising result, Vanilla Chaos Chosen cost 200 more than Wildwood Rangers
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>>162657429
not a rat guy myself but anything that removes dwarf scum is based
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>>162657631
lmao wtf
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>>162657631
Shouldn't WIldwoods not win a man-fight?

They have no armour or shields, they are hundreds of times more vulnerable to missiles.
>>
do you get both elf lords late enough in the game?
>>
Question, if I get this beta patch (WHY the fuck, just release it normally) will I need to wait for my mods to update?

I have higher replenishment rates, cataph's magic, horde infighting immunity, better ai recruitment.
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>>162657639
>elves are now allied with skaven
is anyone even surprised?
>>
good afternoon eternal general

Missed you guys this week studying!

But now time to SLAY ELVES
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>>162657631

HAMMERERS VS RANGERS
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>>162657867

Most likely unless those mods didn't touch the wood elves prior
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>turn 9
>elves already prove that they're nothing more than blood-thirsty traitor scum
HAHA TIME TO BURN FORESTS will come later, I need to deal with Skarsnik first.
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>>162657927
Rangers, let's go.

They have no armour to pierce.
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>>162657927

Another victory for the Asrai. Holy shit Wildwood Rangers are strong as fuck
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>>162657221
They weren't in possession of the port. The sea wall was some distance away from the port to stop ships coming into the bay where the city they were trying to relieve was located.

Trying to disembark on the French-occupied seawall would have been suicide spikes or no spikes. No depictions or descriptions seem to include spikes. If you have information that I'm lacking then please share it.

>and make a mole.
I don't know what you mean by this
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>>162658108
Now try wardancers with asrai spears

They crap all over Wildwoods
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>>162657429
>Stinking rat-vole rodent pieces of trash
>Living, much less succeeding while I draw breath

Think again ratmen
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>>162658108

Let's test their immune to psych and anti-large features.

Wildwood vs 1 unit of Chaos Spawn.
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>>162655943
My guess that it's either authors fantasy or some sort of anti docking defence for the port.
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>>162658401

Performed very well.
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>>162658015

>wait to read all the lore
>wait for wood elves
>wait for patch
>wait for mods to update

Does it ever end...
>>
Are rangers good, or should I still mass quarrelers?
>>
>>162658569

Why do u have a leader and they don't
>>
>>162621109
>Roll
Go
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>>162658569

Poor little elf boys, last test before work
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>>162658569
Why is Durthu in there? He's skewing results with buffs
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>>162658759

Mod hasn't yet been updated to allow Welfs to play without a Lord.

>>162658857
This was way too close, Minotaur charge tore them to shreds.
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>>162659012

There's a mod that is updated

Just write custom
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>>162659012
It has, I've posted tons of tests, you're using some weird one
>>
i hate flagelants and free company because the AI spams them like crazy and it is stupid as fuck to see see an emperors army made up of stupid old cunts
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>>162654582
Costs too much to translate and voice it in 12 languages.
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>>162658970

Durthu stands way back in the spawn and doesn't help at all.
>>
Holy fuck
They actually gave in and made elves murder hobos

Finally those MP tears will flow
>>
>>162659096

Found it, below the other two. Gonna retest chaos chosen
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>>162659138
Pretty sure he gives armywide buffs
>>
>>162659138

They'll still get the "General is alive" morale buff since he's on the battlefield while the enemy won't

The tests aren't fair
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>>162658284
>while I draw breath

bit of a presumption don't you think?
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>>162659205
Where's patchnotes? Did it go out yet?
>>
>Wildwood rangers can now win duels

>Elves now can kill dwarfs

Time for reckoning you stunted shits
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>>162659425
Wildwood rangers used to get shat on before
Like, killing 20 black orcs and getting raped

This is significant improvement
>>
It's been 200 turns, but I'm finally back.
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What the fuck is with those Treemen buffs on Ancient Treemen? Holy shit

+10 AP damage for all treekin in the army
+20% ward save for all treekin in the army.
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>>162659546

>Time for reckoning
>had to cry and moan for one week straight just to have CA make elves above average
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>>162659440
This. Ratassassin fucking killed Thorgrim singlehandedly with ease not to mention Valten exalted of Sigmar.
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>>162660002
I fucking hate skaven so much

They're just meme rat mary sues with a serious case of writer boner
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>>162660073
I don't really mind it desu, what's worse are the fans who think it's genuinely because some slightly larger than normal rats could actually be dangerous in any other situation than when they're protected by the writer. They have no objectively strong traits whatsoever.
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>>162660073
Lol you are a meme mad af man-thing.
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>>162660002
Reddit rats need to fuck off. They're such an obnoxiously written faction and very clearly the pet project of autistic writers that don't know when to stop.
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>>162659812
Is this one of the meme goblin only units playthroughs?
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>>162660204
Skaven are such huge mary sues tho

>psst nothing personnel kid, but we got a global empire, and we can kill everyone if we united
>You better hope we never unite or we gonna drop a moon on you and get away with it kid
>We also kill wounded reincarnations of sigmar just for the lulz
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>>162659812
>That money
>Those units
>That turn

Are u OK?
>>
What's it with the Dwarf hate, I see this coming from youtubers aswell, did I miss something? Also, have their flying units ever been fixed?
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>>162660402
Skarsnik can only recruit gobbos, but gets a big upkeep decrease and can get massive bonuses on them
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>>162660204
For sure, fans like that are always the worst. Same applies in 40k with Imperial Guard superfans.

But the faction truly is poorly written, they work as a creeping menace living below the world that can pop up and make life hell anywhere at any time, that's cool, that's fine, it's everything around that which just screams 14 year old guy writing fanfiction.
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>>162660536
Because dwarf players are obnoxious
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>>162660073
Either rat poison or at people.
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>>162660567
I had a massive dejavu with this post
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>>162660607
I don't think its fair to compare IG to skaven. At least the IG have weaponry that isn't garbage tier experimental 90% chance of blowing up in your face shit. They're organised and field heavy weaponry and armoured vehicles. In their setting they can be genuinely effective when employed properly.

Skaven are just fucking retarded at all times.
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>>162660676
>cat people.
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>>162660741
You've just been in this place before?
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>>162660534

Do you think I'm ok?

I've been locked by the greenskins for 100 turns now, I can't move out of karak 8 peaks
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>CA forgot to buff hawk riders and great eagles

Sasuga
Even less reason to field them now
>>
So, now that wildwood rangers are now murderfuckers, what's the point of wardancers with asrai spears?
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>>162660974

Great eagles were bugged with attack animations, patch should have fixed them.
>>
Never played a total war, what do?
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>>162661025
They are cheaper for one
And they are quite decent against unarmored infantry and cavalry in general
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>>162660073
>>162660204
>>162660772
Skaven have insane numbers of them though, like that's been their deal from the start, even in fucking tabletop their deploy numbers get to be huge compared to everything else, because they're dogshit individuals and more liable to kill themselves than enemies with a bunch of their weaponry, they're not like a faction of sneaky furry supermen you bunch of queers.
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>>162661134

Play total war.
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>>162660610

This.
Actually, every fucker who hates on elves or has a favorite race and shit on others.
They're think they're somehow better than the annoying elf lovers but are actually just as bad.

I wish both types would fuck off.
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>>162660772
IG as a faction isn't comparable, and I have nothing against them, they're used pretty well in the storytelling. I'm just saying, their most autistic, rabid fans are very similar.
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>>162660974
WHAT OF THE GYROCOPTERS THOUGH? JUST WHAY ARE THEY SO BAD
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>>162661223

>Gyros with Brimstone guns
>Bad

You're bad.
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>>162661025
To kill unarmored large targets like wildriders, centigors, minotaurs, giant ghouls
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>>162661203
Which one, mister?
>>
>>162660974
Where are the patchnotes?
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>>162661148
Yet anytime they do anything of significance it's a mary sue sneaky furry superrat stealth assassination

Fuck off you ratlover
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>>162661307
I remember having to drop bombs manually and they absolutely did fuckall even to weak goblin shits.
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>>162660073
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>>162661025

Being very fast

They're much better against units that rely on cycle charging since cycling out of a unit of wardancers is really costly.
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>>162661331

Pick the setting you like, aside from Atilla they're all easy to pick up.
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>>162661331

Shogun2

Then move on to either Attila or Warhammer
>>
If I would buy one dlc, which one does actually the most for the game? Beastmen just seem like loads and loads of shitflinging infantry and more roaming fuckstacks for the grand campaign.
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>>162661436

>Dropping bombs on a unit with a ton of widely spaced units instead of tightly packed elites

Yeah, it's pretty much confirmed that you're just dogshit at this game.

Dropping bombs on an engaged unit of Graveguard will shave off 30-40% of the units health in one go.
>>
>>162661539
>>162661496
Okay thank you
>>
>>162661025

Waifu armies. Or to have something that doesn't die instantly the moment archers look at them.
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>>162661436
If you drop all bombs on a chosen unit they gonna lose 40% of hp
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>>162661139

>Using the spear variant against unarmored infantry

Fucking why?

That's literally what the sword variant is for
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>>162661575
Aside from wood elves, probably King and the Warlord, give you two themed campaigns that are quite different and challenging.
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>>162661331

Warhammer if you like fantasy and dlc.
I would suggest pirating atilla or rome 2 with all dlc.

Don't feel bad, the devs are ultra jews so fuck them.
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>>162661709
Spear variant is much more versitile and only slightly worse against infantry compared to the sword one
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>>162661709
All Wardancers are melee experts and the spear unit actually has better stats
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>>162655943
Siege of La Rochelle
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>>162661375
>Grey Seers up to shit and meddling in things here and there
>Grey Seers eventually drift the Morrslieb closer to the world
>Clan Skyre cannon the shit out of it and make it rain warpstone
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>>162620986
Um excuse me why do you want to fuck OUR waifu?

t. Dotard
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>>162661942

Fuck off m8, we wanted to fuck trees before loli creep even existed.
>>
>Dryads
>Expect qties
>Get fucking monsters with tits instead
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Swordsmen or shielded spears for Empire?
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>>162660204
They have plenty of strong traits. They take absurd risks compared to any other faction which results in more destructive weaponry. Dwarf and humantech is doomed to fall behind because it is too conservative. Also Skaven are incredibly fast which is why they can be fairly dangerous fighters.

Some of the fanbase is obnoxious but thats only been true recently, 5-7 years ago they were an underplayed faction for 6th.
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Did the buffs go out yet?
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>CA will not make welfs shots go through the woods

I mean, if they have some gimmick like having an easier time seeing shit innawoods or something like that I could see forests being a big part of welf playstyle (like it should)
But when you have 60% of your shots hitting trees it just nullifies any kind of advantage
>>
I want to start playing, with mods.
Let's see if I get this right.
I can start playing, then when they release a minor balance patch I have to wait to update my mods then can continue my saves, right? Like, I won't need to start a new campaign?

Basically what I'm afraid of is starting to play, oops patch released, FUCK YOU, start over.
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>>162662140
Sure.
I don't think minor balance patches fuck up a lot of mods too.
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>>162662062
sworded spears
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>>162662140
That's not the case at all, unless it's a major overhaul mod of some kind. Usually cosmetic mods and smaller adjustments (like better camera, better borders etc.) are unaffected too.
There is an option in the launcher to load otudated mods and 99% of times they work fine.
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>>162661904
>hey our new favorite race isn't really that impressive guize
>what can we do?
>lets make them powerful wizards! because its totally a rat-like thing
>wait we already have those in other races
>okay lets make them bring down the moon or something, I dunno. They're just better ok?
>yeah skaven 4 lyfe XDDD

Literally the most meme faction in the setting.
>>
Are orcs still useless against dwarves? I started a few campaigns, but my full stacks of orcs and gobbos always got curb-stomped by a half-stack of manlets.
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>>162662062

Depends who you're fighting, you don't need spears vs dwarfs now do you?
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>>162662140

A small hotfix is fine compared to a full DLC patch

Would probably take a few hours for modders to update anyway, ya pansy
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>>162662065

>They take absurd risks compared to any other faction

It's not really much of a "risk" when they're also written to have functionally infinite numbers.
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>>162661375
>>
So what skaven playstyle will be like?

Or tomb kings?
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>>162662351

Nasty skulkers and squigs
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>>162662329
Skaven could have so many cool gameplay mechanics for the campaign, for example I could imagine that they could settle underneath larger cities and leech resources off of them or something. Or they could have a tech that allows a percentage of their army to appear inside the city during a siege through the use of sewers or something.

Also they could counterbalance their stronger fancy warpfire units with a miscast chance.
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>>162662351
git gud. Orc legendary actually isn't that bad. Just bring a tonne of boys and mob'em.

The only problem with Orc is that you will lose to Savage Boyz without ranged, but ranged against dorf is useless.

No need to bring gobboz against dwarves.
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>>162662535
>So what skaven playstyle will be like?
Posting memes in real time

>Or tomb kings?
Probably pretty cavalry + archer heavy with a nice touch of monsters such as ushabti, I think they'll have a fair bit more ressing the dead than VC also due to liche priests
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>>162662535

>Tomb kings

19 stack chariots
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How to find more favorable agreements?
Can you trade with more than 1 person?
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>>162662798
>19

Settra
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>>162662505
well they also canonically lose battles and in TT they aren't overpowered at all. You could lose half your armies value if a warp lightning cannon misfires. If humans or dwarfs were infinite they still wouldn't make self destructive machinery just to kill the enemy faster.
>>
>playing Rome 1 as julii
>capture mediolanium all easy peasy
>gives me fog of war to see 2 approaching armies but going to different villages
>decide to risk it and take Generals out
>one of them retreats to be in others AoE
>can't get my ally in AoE to even out
>say fuck it and fight it
>it's a river crossing
>by Jupiter
>he guilds his allies up and has a solid battle line
>1 trarii and 4 hastati guard the bridge
>only problem is baiting him across
>try archers
nothing
>try velites
Nothing
>try spare hastati
>works
>their general charges right in to break lines
Fails
>general dead
>his cavalry is just charging into the river and drowning
>velites and archers pick off sides
>rout ensures victory
>only lost 40 men of my half stack to his 1 and 1/2 stack
Feels good man
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>Decide to go fight the Orcs in the mountains
>See this
>The other stack is 1/2 artillery on top of this one
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>>162662810

You can trade with more than 1 person. And that deal is in your favour. You get 305 gold a turn because you own ale and wood.
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>>162662535
I liked that idea someone posted a couple of threads ago of having warpstone as a unique resource for making units, but it replenishes over time unlike amber.
Also, bonus points if you can make grey seers use it in battle to boost spells, that kind of mechanic would be pretty unique.
>>
>>162662505
Numbers never mattered for anyone in the long run, no faction risks anything, it's just flavour
>>
Where are you guys even getting these patchnotes? No site has anything
>>
>>162662535
You can probably play skaven how you want. I don't think they lack anything.
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>>162662535
e-sports fags will cry rivers of tears
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>>162662535
>Skaven
>An army of gobbos with Varghulfs & arty capable of 1 shotting an entire unit.
>Assassins with a 200% base success chance because lolskaven

>Tomb Kangz
Probably Empire meets VC.
Army will have a mix of most things like Empire, with ranged units, but will trade artillery for some monsterous units
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>>162663183

>Implying CA won't kowtow to the "Muh balance" crowd like they always do and castrate the Skaven
>>
>>162662660
Underway movement is the standard movement, but they can attack
If they attack a city they have the option of settling underneath it with a shadow building chain that only skaven see or they can take the fight to the surface

Unique resource warpstone that works like amber, special objective of summoning the horned rat with it and starting a quest chain of bringing down morrslieb
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>>162662535
>Skaven
Probably the most flexible 'evil' force with specialist range units and strong infantry lines. Monsters and artillery will be the hammer.

>Tomb Kings
Just VC with range, no flying units and scaled down regeneration abilities to compensate.
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>>162663302
>Just a more boring VC

Why are people hyped for these again?
>>
>>162663420
Because he forgot to mention the cool Monstrous infantry shit they get
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Who would win a duel between an average Clanrat and an average Gobbo?
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>>162663302
>no flying units

tomb kings have a ton of chariots and they literally have a sphinx like monster killer that can fly around.

Also its more than just ranged. they have ranged monsters that shoot arrows the size of balista bolts.
>>
>>162663516
There is nothing more useless than a single gobbo.
>>
>>162663420
generally their appeal is aesthetic and nehekhara will be an epic map for its desert battles. Chariots are shit in TWW though so the fact they comprise much of the TK killing power is not promising for the faction. Still they have morale punishing artillery and a lost ark.
>>
>>162641948
>>162642048
Waywatchers and Wystalkers are also suppsoed to have a second special ability to complement the one where they get +255 Ap shooting damage if no enemies are within 70m: If there are enemies within 70m, they're mean to get a +40% rate of fire buff instead.
>>
>>162663643
A single Clanrat is also extremely shitty
>>
Im not interested in Tomb Kings at all, i want the most metal faction in Warhammer, the Dark Elves,
>>
>>162663798
Dark Elves are just emo faggot edgelords. Most metal faction goes either to Norscans or Greenskins.
>>
>>162663420
Because they're VC except cool and fun
>>
>>162663516
That depends, is the goblin an archer?
>>
>>162663783
they're pretty fast, move quicker than most infantry but they have apalling morale.
>>
>>162663516

Do average Gobbo's have bows?
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>>162664148

I hope so
>>
Did a unit's requirement building (eg. armoury) have to be in the same city as the base building (eg. barracks) or just the same province?
>>
>>162664148
>goblin with a bow
>versus a clanrat with a jezzail

gee can't imagine who'd win
>>
>>162664469

Same province.
>>
>>162664470
>Jezzail blows up in the skaven's face
>GOBBO WINZ
>>
>>162664470

>Anything beating a gobbo archer

Yeah, no one is interested in your fan-fiction m8
>>
>>162663289
Well now that you mention it there will definitely be a warpstone mechanic that requires you to take cities in order to gain warpstone

Possibly it would go along with some kind of "rat tunnel corruption" since Dwarfs have the rat poison tech which clearly points to Skaven being a corruptor faction, with corruption representing Skaven penetration of a region. Amusingly I'm certain CA will fuck up and the Skaven rebels will end up hostile to the Skaven player.
>>
>>162664470
>muh skaven is so amazing and overpowered they'd beat gobbo archers

I wish skaven fans would fuck off with their meme mary sue shit
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>>162664607
what about mary sue wood elfs?
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>>162664607
Your as bad as they are, give it a rest.
>>
>>162663420
VC are boxed into a few cities like Mousillon, Drakenhof and presumably Lahmia in Nehekhara

The Tomb Kings would instead have an Empire-sized realm full of undeads sitting south of the Greenskins and Dwarfs, with Araby to the West and probably with a vampire-controlled Lahmia in the east.

So for the TK the campaign will involve a lot more Empire-style "beat your mummy vassals into submission for the glory of Settra" before you can move further afield into the larger map.

Also TK won't have a corruption mechanic.
>>
>>162664580
Yes, I'd also like a Rat Invasion mechanic. Picture this, skaven have a meter which increases every time they fight a battle or raid, when it tops out, you spawn an AI controlled army to help you!
>>
>>162664190
Goblins are tricksy though
>>
>>162664892
And dude, what about offices on the grey seer council, and each ones give a bonus?
>>
>>162665014
That's a really cool idea, they could also have a book of targets, where you get mini-quests to correct wrongs done to you during the game
>>
>>162664580
A warpstone deficit will probably have a massive public order penalty as upstart warlords sense weakness.
>>
lorefags, why every other WE faction call me a traitor?

Aren't we all just a bunch of treehugger?
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>tfw every campaign is a turtlefest until I unlock the good units, build up a top-tier army, fight one battle then quit and restart
>>
>>162665164
It could also prevent your armies from replenishing, as potential recruits are out gathering warpstone for themselves
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>>162632908
>Number 4

lmao fucking dorfs on slayer oath watch
>>
>>162665171

Because you either follow tree-hitler or a beastman.
>>
>>162664892
Sounds like a great way to show that Skaven are numerous and stuff, just like goblins
>>
>>162665279
What about when they add Ariel as the third Welf LL?

Are they going to call her traitor?
>>
>>162636064
https://www.tvchaosuk.com/browse.php
Best torrent site for British TV
>>
>>162665274
yeah! and maybe you could build up enough warpstone to erect a giant belltower in Skavenblight that turns all the races of the world into Skaven after you since enough into it!
>>
page 10, new thread now
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>>162665502

Yes, because reasons. Like being corrupted by dark magic or something.
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>>162635016
>>162635297
I miss it too lads
>>
>>162665164
>>162665274
>You get events where your lords are assassinated by your own people

>>162665171
Elves are dicks

>>162665279
Beastmen are specifically mutants who are beasts+humans

Hence Beastmen

They would be called Beastelfs if Orion was a mutant
>>
>>162665774
>>162665774
>>162665774
NEW
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>mfw researching Rat Poison tech after Skaven are released just eliminates their faction immediately
>>
>>162665207
welcome to TW
>>
>>162642430
>favors missile armies
>Welfs still lose in autoresolve
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>>162648159
>Not wanting Throgg

Out you go.
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>>162642430
That army counters him excellently though.
>>
>>162635693
>>162635081
Delves will just have cities

Encamp and movement will be fused together into "embark on Black Ark" and you'll be able to recruit as though you were in a local area and whatever
>>
>>162660974
Great Eagles got buffed somewhat

Now they will spend half their time doing fancy animations -> half the time getting murdered
>>
>>162666446
Just like all the monstrous units in the game.
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>>162660073
>>162660267
>>
>I really want to play as VC but I can't get around playing the bad guys

what do I do?
>>
>>162627740
What do you do? You fight them, of course! You're tricksy! You got schemes!
>>
>>162665171
bug
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>>162628096
To cuck the world.
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