/twg/ - Total War General

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>>162665774
Rollan!

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2nd for Skaven are mary sue shits that need to be removed

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>can't kill because the rest of the elves would wardec
fuck off wood shits

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Historical total war> warhammer

>be WE GC
>everything goes smoothly
>half my armies in the north battling Chaos shitz
>other half in badlands helping dwarfen friend
>sweet, 12 Amber. Finaly can upgrade tree.
>4 beastmen doomstacks appear
I wasn´t prepared

>>162665984
I bet I'll get a dlc faction I don't have

>enemy offers me 10k gold for peace
>accept
>declare war next turn
This happens every ten turns or so. Thanks, Pergamon.

Where's the WE patch changes? The update 5 in the OP doesn't list them

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>join Norn as they're retaking their capital
>this is what they brought
>6 grudge-throwers and not enough infantry to man all those towers
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, Karak Norn...

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The maze, Dolores

Lets test this sweet ass beta patch

>>162666236
G O B L I N E D

>>162665984

No stunties or neets.

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E Q U I T E S

>>162665984
No boreskins

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>162665984
something evil as in VC, WoC or BM

>>162666680
Get fucked

>>162666694
the wrestlers were a friendly bunch

>>162666807
oh come on

>>162666939
no poopoopeeepeeeing for you

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...soon

>>162665774
>Archaon getting them non-stop gains just from his headgear

>>162665984
roll

>>162665984
they see me rollan
they hatan
etc

>>162665806
>in order to play Skaven in the Old World you need to buy the New World sequel
>eliminating Skaven is impossible because they have bases in all corners of the map

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>>162667036
It hurts, I just want to bully wood elves ;_;

>>162667087
is he an elf in disguise?

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BRAVE ROMANS

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>>162666095
The skaven are shameless self-inserts...?

>>162667128
>eliminating Skaven is [pretty much] impossible
I sure as hell hope so

>>162667128
We have enough shitflingers

Beastmen were a mistake

What has happened to elves after this update, are they OP now?

Someone posted a screenshot saying their archers beat quarelers and ranger beat chosen now.

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>Gobbo archers

>>162666937
the black guy said ''gut his throat, fuck'' lmao

>>162666379
>Wood Elves come around
>instead of finishing off Skarsnik, they attack Norn
BEASTMAN FUCK OFF
GET OUT OF OUR MOUNTAINS

>>162667154
he's not-king-arthur

Swiftsilver shards or regular deepwood scouts?

post your favourite ost's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQiyyXsCo4Y

>>162666937
The Wrestlers seemed like nice guys to go and have a beer with but the posh leader was hilarious.

>>162667435
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Wood_Elves_Hotfix_Beta

>not putting the hotfix in the OP

>>162667435

They got good

>>162667585
I thought he said that, surprised they didn't catch that.

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What's with the err.. bretonnian dance sir?

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>>162666167

I enjoy both because I'm not an autist.

What happened to the matt and lindy time commanders thing?

I can't wait to play Bretonia and fuck up the forest chaos elfs in Athel'loren to uncuck the Kingdom.

Total Warhammer Basics Collection: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=817040576

Reply here if I've done something retarded and you want it changed

>these hotfixes

Wait what the fuck?

I get the wildwood rangers and waywatcher buffs, but holy fucking hell those glade guard buffs.

>>162667725
I thought it was fine for single player. People just didn't know how to kite with them. I don't play MP though so I wouldn't know if they are underpowered for that.

>>162668268
I'm with you, they pandered to hard to the scrubs

>>162668268
Two of the top mods right now are Wood Elves buffs

People are fucking retarded and CA is giving into them

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>>162667608
>they're now friends
Elves are just the worst fucking scum in the world.

>>162668353
you can't really kite when they're the same range as everyone though

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>>162668496
>They approve war against Angrund

>>162668464
They did need buffs, but not to their basic units, not at all.

Hilariously, the unit MOST in need of buffs in the entire roster (Deepwood Scouts) only got the token buff that all archers got.

have they fixed the issue with wood elf/argwylon campaigns where you only get banners as loot

>I need another 20GB just to download a 100 mb patch
fuck steam and CA how is this weird memory nonsense acceptable

>>162668498
Yes you can. You only need to think in two dimensions instead of one.

>>162668268

Yeah, 4 extra damage and extra range? Goddamn, that's some really heavy buffs.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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Patched Starshaft Glade Guard vs Quarrelers with some very, very sparing micro and firing from the edge of a wood

>>162669106
If you can't see why that's major as all hell when glade guard were already completely fine, you need to not discuss balance in games

>>162668218
>State Troops of the Empire

I'd recommend Unique Empire States personally, I like their colors and stuff a lot better than that one. Also I can't tell on the State Troops one, but UES also does their shields up better with the states heraldry and things.

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It sure is nice of CA to fight so hard on our behalf so we can have mods!

Oh wait, they released half-assed shit tools AGAIN and it's the community's job to do what CA should have done

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>>162669441
Patched Starshaft Glade Guard vs Quarrelers (Great Weapons) firing from the edge of a wood, zero micro, pure shootout

I love how they stated in the same patchnotes that if Glade Guard can beat quarrelers in a shootout, there's a problem

>>162669470
I've flip-flopped a bit between the two, but right now I'm settled on State Troops, due to anon's recommendation because supposedly; I haven't played anything near the empire for a while it adds less armour to the state troops

Day 204
Warhammer is still shit.

>>162665984
roll

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>>162669441
>If you can't see why that's major as all hell when glade guard were already completely fine, you need to not discuss balance in games

I was serious you donut.

Not everything in /v/ is written in a sarcastic manner.

>>162668612
>the unit MOST in need of buffs in the entire roster (Deepwood Scouts) only got the token buff that all archers got

Deepwood scouts ate probably there best unit though. With the shard arrows they shred absolutely everything. Waywatchers sre worse than them in every way and cost more

>>162665984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRae5mRoRE

>>162669837
Not that guy but honestly your phrasing or whatever you want to call it came off as sarcastic as hell

>>162669627

I don't think CA can do anything even if they wanted to. GW is a really clingy company.

>>162668612

>deepwood scouts
> needing buffs

are you retarded or what?

>>162668612
>Deepwood Scouts
>Most in need of buffs

Care to try and justify that?

>>162669441
what sort of micro are you talking about?

Where's Bretonnia?

>>162669627
Why are modders always the most entitled shits of any community?

>>162670171
They can make their mod tools decent and usable. The issue isn't GW anymore, we're already allowed to mod the game, it's just that CA's tool sucks ass

>>162666095
>Mary Sues
I don't think you know what that means kiddo

>>162670073

S-sorry.

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G O B L I N S

>>162669727
Day 204.5

Anon is still faggot

>>162669627
you sound like a massive cunt.

>>162668612

>the best archer unit was the one that most needed the buffs

benis xD

>>162670246
How is he acting entitled?

>>162670246
where exactly did the modders touch you?

>>162666167
>implying the best total war ever was historically accurate
WEW LAD
>>162666296
What mod?
>>162666585
Any update on the eagle waddling away from combat and dying

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>>162670235

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>>162669672
Straight shootout, zero micro, flat empty terrain.

Only reason they lost was worse leadership, the damage done was close to identical.

>>162669837
Sorry, anon. I've been here too long.

>>162669968
Maybe it's personal then, I tried them a few times but couldn't get used to the dumpster range and never hired them again.

>>162670389
>everyone rejoices that CA was able to get GW to allow the game to be modded
>it turns out that the mod tool is ass and updates mean modders essentially have to start over
you sound like a massive shill

>>162666694
Tbh the first nerd commander was a qt3.14 who I would snuggle with

How do you guys deploy vanguard archers? Do you really just harass with them, even if there's potentially cavalry?

>>162670480
>Any update on the eagle waddling away from combat and dying
- Increased the frequency of matched combat animations for Great Eagle units in Battle.

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>Mod replaces Orion with a regular Elf lord
YES YES YES

>stunties coming at me with gold and a peace treaty
LOL
BRING ME CHOPPAS
THEN WE'LL TALK

>>162670487
>no reason to play the game until February
fug

>all archers ranges are now 180
this is a buff to that lord skill that gives extra +12%, they will now have 200 range lmao

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I don't know what the fuck you're doing but here's my test.

The quarrelers even shot a couple of times towards my lord.

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I'm sorry anons, memes are dead

>>162670227
Using the longer range to retreat then fire before the quarrelers can return fire, I did it I think 3 times that shootout

>>162667087
Is that Guy a Ghost or Immortal ?

>>162670559

The extra range probably got them 2 or 3 extra kills

>>162666807
Be evil and conquer all the empire provinces, tax them to death then let chaos take them
>>162667614
Sir the correct phrase is Not! King Arthur, just as the empire is Not! The >H>R>E

>>162670559
>dumpster range

Thats the only thing stopping them from being hilariously broken

>>162670634
depends, if I get woodland/hiding spot, I may gorilla deploy archers so I can quickly hit the enemy back when the infantry lines clash (ranged cavalry is much better for that purpose tho)

but that's it

>>162670816
>putting lords in your tests
>not grabbing the mod

Also, you're probably not on beta patch. Quarrelers shred glade guard without challenge prepatch.

>>162670818
I thought so, I could only get two volleys off and retreat before the ai ever shot back

>tfw you can't listen to rome or medieval 2 music without hearing the advisors or unit responses in your head

>>162670970

You can clearly see from the comparison stats quarreler's have -20 on the range stat.

Also in this case the lord could have only harmed the AI since I was the one controlling the glade guard

>>162669627
>tfw SFO is probably going to end up with so much unnecessary shit added to it
>It will one day add a thing that makes me not be able to like the mod anymore.
>The modder will probably get sick of having to update all the shit he added to it every CA patch and just stop.

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>>162670818
Memes are well and truly dead

>>162670940
They also ran out of ammo fast as hell, just not my type of unit I guess

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in the book it goes

>>162670970

Hes using shafts

>>162667614
Isn't Albion NOT!King Arthur Land tho?

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what fucking kind of excuse is this?

I fucking hate grace the stupid fucking whore

>>162670246
Because they think they worked harder than CA FOR FREE so give me dem upboats

>>162671068
Lords also give buffs

>>162671170
If you commit a grudge against stunties, do they ask for your name and address?

>>162668268
Remember how much the general was bitching and complaining at launch?

Now WE are literally every other faction instead of a casual filter

>>162671304
you can't really blame Grace, she just repeats the bullshit some retard decided

>too micro heavy
>a literal attention-free constant ability
u fuckin wot m8?

>>162671423

I'm sure the +8 melee attack changed the outcome drastically.

>>162671436
i dont know, i assume they need a name. what if they dont know you? they at least needs to know who to pin the grudge on

>>162670661
So they fly away faster?

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Only better than the Skaven Senpai
Even then that's not saying much

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God damn

Wildwood Rangers are no longer to be fucked with

>>162671447
I wouldn't say that, their anvil is still trash and they still lack long range artillery, so you can't play the stock standard strategy. But the glade guard buffs were for sure unneeded.

>those buffs
The archers could use some extra punch but the Welf campaign really wasn't that hard.

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>People think Dwarf Infantry are hard to break
>They aren't even prepared for Lizardmen morale

these buffs are way overpowered

they're not going to keep them surely?

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WHERE ARE YOUR GOBLIN ARCHERS NOW?

>>162671750
Never underestimate the power of crying shitters.

>>162671750
I'm sorry anon. The shitters won.

>>162671630
They should not be beating other factions elite infantry, wood elves are now completely OP their archers are stupidly OP now with up to 200 range and their infantry beats even chosen.

GG CA.

>>162671281
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Albion
No Albion is if Britain never got ROMAN'd or SAXON'd
Honestly do you people even read the rulebooks

>>162669627
Holy shit that guy is in tears. I haven't laughed this much in ages.

>>162671568

They'll do more sync animations in combat, which should lower the amount of damage they take

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>>162671630
Can't quite stand up to Chosen though

>buy woodelf dlc
>pick treeman in mini campaign
>starting point I'm surrounded by elves who kinda sorta don't like me

Am I supposed to Make Athel Loren Great Again and deport all the elves back to Ulthuan?

>>162672012
Delete neets

>>162670671
>Woman

>>162665984
rolling

>>162671963
ca shills go way

>>162671902

CA went into panic mode after the massive backlash from the casual shitters this playerbase is made of, if Radious being super popular wasn't enough of a clue.

>>162672085
You don't need to be a shill to appreciate good arsehurt.

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>>162672012
Durthu constantly bitching on me and calling me a traitor was weird, he kept complaining even though our relations were in the green

>>162672012
It's piss easy to make them like you and then confederate them when you upgrade the tree twice.

>Belegar's campaign went from comfy to literal fucking hell
Thanks, CA. Can't wait for Queek.

>>162671750
The range buff was necessary to actually allow Wood Elf archer micro to work

The ranger and Waywatcher buffs are also justified

All the increased damage stats for the other Welf archers might be too much

>>162671496
If the reload bonus was that consistant it probably means it made them outrageously strong for anyone able to capitalize on it during battles with some micromanagement

But i'm kinda guessing they only did some test against other ranged units of other roosters

Do we have any leaks on what's the next dlc race after brets?

>>162672417
Tomb Kings.

>>162672189
It's fucking stupid, the playerbase will now complain that it's pay to win.

Why the hell did they have to make their infantry beat everyone else, their archers were fine too waywatchers needed work but the glade guard were fine.

>>162672391

This, waywatchers and rangers were literally the only units needing buffs

>get warhammer because I hear it's really good
>pick empire for first campaign because muh pike/halberd n shot
>can't order halberdiers/spearmen to form spear wall
>handgunners don't have fire by rank and don't even have fucking reloading animations
what the fuck /twg/

>>162672249
That's a bug. I seem to remember the same happening earlier with a faction.

>>162672485
This. Starfires fucking melted anything they touched.

>>162670795
>playing the game for one faction

You are no fun

>>162671965
someone tested that early and the rangers won???

>>162672658
What if the game only has one faction?

>Bretonnia will be added in February
>they still won't add Bretonnia as a playable race in the Wood Elf minicampaign because "elves have to win"
>even though they could easily just have the playable Bretonnians required to keep the Welves alive in order to win the campaign

Fucking cunts

>there won't be a minicampaign where you play as Settra and reconquer Nehekhara after rising from the dead

Now that would actually be a good minicampaign even if you only had 1 or 2 starting positions

>>162672562
It's kinda lame but halberds and spearmen hold really well with(or without) guard mode so no loss really.

I am glad the handgunners don't have fire by rank, but the reload animation thing is pretty shit.

>>162672562
Dude, just stop pretending to be a clueless newbie to start shit. You've been doing it for a long time, and your autism is just as apparent each time.

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Looks like they changed up King LuLu's model this update!

>>162672752
He used lords on the WE side for his testing so it was skewed

>>162672562
REAd a fucking rulrbook

>>162672761
Then I would guess it's a sandbox game

Also Bretonnia is 2 factions but you're still gay

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>>162672871
Treemen?

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Seems like hotfix Chosen vs Rangers is a 50/50

What the fuck does Radious even do? I've read their shit on steam and TWC but they only use the most vague bullshit description of "DOES THINGS, MANY OF THINGS" and I'm sure as hell not installing it.

>>162672465
I hope you're telling the truth since Kangz are my favorite faction but my heart is ready for dissapointment.

>>162672809
>>there won't be a minicampaign where you play as Settra and reconquer Nehekhara after rising from the dead
You do know they released a assembly kit right?

>>162672562
Get a refund then faggot

>>162672871
How so? Did he get a haircut?

>>162672848
*tips tinfoil hat*

>>162673052
Wildwood Rangers mounted on Hellcannons (Great weapons) (Smart... For a goblin) (Trollhammer Torpedos)

>>162672961
THES IS my REEM

>>162672848
>You've been doing it for a long time, and your autism is just as apparent each time.
Fuck off nigger I bought the game yesterday, quit trying to defend removing features
>>162672943
Why don't you play another game in the series? Like any of the previous ones that has fire by rank and formations?

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>>162672943
What?

>>162673052

Just listen to us and ignore Radious.

>>162672943
>Models and rulebook don't have reload animations

O-oh.

Please just patch it in CA. It doesn't matter if it is a really fast undetailed reload animation

>>162672961
>Louen's face when King Beastman allies with Skarsnik and razes the empire

>>162673081
>haha learn to mod man

No thx

>>162673052
Makes every unit have a class so it's just M2 redlined rather than factions with strengths and weaknesses

Is there a mod that actually does remove lords completely?

All the current ones are basically garrison generals where a single character in the unit is the general. When testing it almost always comes down to RNG on who's "lord" dies first, swinging the morale to the opposite side

>>162673145
It is an adaptation of WHFB where bows could fire from the second rank but not firearms unless certain dwarves

>>162673123
So you did no research at all, seeing as you're apparently surprised? Right...

>>162672562
they wanted the focus of micro to be on hero's and special units. not on every single spearmen

>>162673123
>fire by rank

Only FOTS did it well to be honest.

Come to think of it, only Shogun 2(only yari wall) and Attilla had useful formations.

>>162673116
What the fuck

>>162673159
Well yeah I already said even curiosity isn't gonna make me download it, I'm just tired of seeing "WORK WIT RADIO?!" in comments constantly and not actually knowing what it is other than "A full overhaul"

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[LOUD SWEATING]

>>162673460

There's your eagle buff. Didn't need a stat change just needed this ridiculous double charge animation fixed.

>>162673460

Is the great eagle less sucky now with the animations?

>>162673530
Gork ya git

>>162666167
I still enjoy both to be honest my dude

>>162673530
Mork ya git

>>162673568

It did the thing 3 times, but the melee was really long.

>>162673460

Okay, now the eagle might be viable, specially if animations are frequent

>>162673507
Squares in Napoopan were just right

>>162673417
handgunners all fire through each other
>>162673437
>epic conspiracy meme
>anyone that criticizes warhammer is just an angry /his/fag or a whiny poorfag
kill yourself
>>162673438
it takes 2 seconds to select your infantry line and put them into spear wall/shieldwall etc
>>162673507
I agree with you about fire by rank, though the IS mod for Empire does it pretty well.
Still, spear wall and shield wall has been useful since Rome 1.

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>>162673604
>>162673643

>>162673654

Did it win? Those are dorf warriors right?

>>162673746
Forgot about those.

Why does Rome 1 feel so rewarding compared to the other games. Also so much more fun being limited by not having cav so having to use cheap disposable units like townguard as bait and flankers

>>162673857
Gork is the first option so clearly it's the right one

>>162671707
So? explain yourself lorefag

>>162673838
>Still, spear wall and shield wall has been useful since Rome 1.

Well, they haven't really been frequent, except for Attila. That's why I mentioned it.

Shield wall was pretty buggy in Rome 2.

>>162673746
Can't say for napoopan as I didn't play it yet, maybe it was because of modded unit numbers that made the square line thinner, but sometimes the enemy cavalry managed to break through. Not that I mind that, really, if it was just an "I win" button against cavalry it would be boring, at least it forced me to always cover the charged unit.

Also, did the formation bonus activate at the press of the button or when all men are in place?

>>162673952
Lizardmen is the second randumb meme faction after Skaven, they worship huge fat toads who sleep all day and have three billion morale

>>162673910
'dis git is right

>>162673910
It also gives a bigger bonus

>>162673530
Mork is the stumpiest

>>162673908
It's kinda polished and "tight" I guess.

I get the same feeling from Shogun 2 and TWW.

So, now that basic elf infantry kills chosen, how the fuck are you supposed to deal with them?

>>162674094
That's Gork ya git

Mork is da sneeky 'un

>>162674193
Stay out of their fucking forest, normie.

>>162670480
Medieval was pretty historically accruate

>Wildwood Rangers don’t stack up against other units too well.

>Again, we’d agree, and the unit has been rebalanced with the following stat changes: +2 Melee Attack, +7 Melee Defence, +5 Armour Piercing Damage. With these changes the unit is much more formidable in battle and can now defeat Empire Greatswords one-on-one.

Are you happy now?

>>162674283
Woz it? I alwayz thought mork wuz.

>>162674304
Not an option when they're more aggressive than greenskins.

>>162674414
>implying anyone played your grampa games
>not starting the series with the best and newest game
can historyfags even compete

>start grand campaign
>set orion in ambush in my woods
>have my spy watching the bretonnians that i start at war with
>they don't move at all even with a full stack for 30 turns
>take one step outside of my home province away from that bretonnian province
>suddenly the stack realizes i'm no longer ambushing the path and is on my doorstep.

Fucking hate this meme.

>>162674283
NA IS WRUN' GORK BE DA SNEEKY ONE

>>162673952

Lizardmen Saurus Warriors have high base leadership, high toughness, and the scaley skin equivalent of heavy armor.

They're basically the Order version of Chaos Warriors, except they and the entire Lizardmen army has a special rule that makes it difficult for them to fail leadership checks.

The lore has them being slaughtered mercilessly by demons and skaven, but they never run, never break and always fight down to basically nothing. It's disputed whether Saurus can even feel pain or fear.

>>162674491
Mork is da big bad un'

i smash ye' skull in ya gobbo lover!

>>162674773
YOU FINKS I IZ A GOBBO LOVA YOU POINTY EARED GIT?

>the wood elves dlc was supposed to bring me more joy than it did.
>I'm already bored
>i have nothing left

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Chaos campaign is such a huge bother, its really easy too. though i hate the horde mechanic.
i finished chaos very hard campaign in just a few hours (marauder spam early game) is there a mod where u can play chaos like a normal faction?

>>162674549
>dumb elf doesn't realize that everyone can see him
wow

>had a bunch of fun playing the Welves grand campy
>so many directions to go, so many different factions to fight and diplomance with
>decide to play skarsnik finally
>having so much fun
>fighting everyone, sacking everywhere
>get strong enough to head to karak 8 peaks
>take it back but immediately get declared war on by the dwarves who have confederated with everyone
>spend the next two hours fighting the same boring faction in the same boring desert
>remember why I hate playing greenskins
>its even worse than at launch because each time i destroy the main dwarf stack they get a brand spanking new one the very next turn due to regiments of renown

why does fantasy middle-east have to suck just as much as real life middle east. will it get better with tomb kings? will removing the ability to confederate make it more bearable? or should I just give up on having a fun waaagh and stay with factions I do have fun with?

>>162674849
WAAARGH!!! NOWS YE DUN' IT

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>162674193
I think the more pertinent question is what the fuck is the point of chaos now that elves have better monsters and infantry than they do? All of their strengths are done better in another faction that now also has overpowered archer support to whittle down any chosen before they even can engage the infantry that can already best the chosen by themselves.

>>162674036
You faggots are trying way too hard to cry about "m-m-muh me-mays" over any of the weird and neat factions. How the fuck are lizardmen "random", they're largely just lizard aztecs.

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THIS IS TOO MUCH CA

I'm rolling back the patch, hopefully by the time the beta is over it won't be as overpowered

>>162671304
community hacks have no say on anything, they just play a game of telephone

>>162674984
me too anon

let's _die together?

>>162675148

What a stupid fucking patch.

>>162675180

Are those Black Orcs?

Pay attention to the charge animations, Rangers are so fast that they literally delete the frontline of non-Dwarf/Chaos units, effectively negating their charge bonus.

It's the coolest shit I've seen so far, I wish I knew how to make Webm's, it would make for a great one

>>162674984
>getting hyped for elves of all races

>>162675026
there are faction unlockers for skaeling and varg and the like, there are also conquer anywhere mods that might suit your purpose.

personally I think they dropped the ball pretty heavily bny not allowing chaos rebels to take over a city, only to raze it. encouraging chaos rebellions to take over cities, not even cities you would be able to control, would add a lot to the campaign. You would get the benefit of a new faction helping you out, as well as friendly turf farther south for your hordes to replenish in, and maybe levy a few rebel empire swordsmen if it wouldn't cost to many Charlemagne.

>>162675148
Chaos are just armored huns, it was before CA changed their design philosophy due to reaction of people noticing that actual non-copy pasted factions are very popular in this niche.

Chaos changes will come.

>>162675148

In the tabletop, if Chaos has a unit in a category, it's proably the best of its category.

It's just that their shit is extremely expensive so you can't field many of their models.

>>162675180
On that note, try Wardancer with spear vs Black orcs. Is a surprise really

>>162675624

Chaos is just missing a lot of their toys, they will be getting a massive update in what's likely going to be a Demon themed update.

With the addition of Demon units, it would make sense to also add some of the Demon monsters they can field, Demon Princes, and most importantly Marks for specific units.

Halberd Chaos Warriors with marks of Khorne are one of the most terrifying melee units in the tabletop

>>162675148
>Better infantry

stop this meme

Elf infantry and still fucking paper, now they just have some canon to their class. They'll still melt

37 ap damage on Wildwood.

Can't be right, I remember pre buff Wildwood ap being 24 ap

anyone got freedom aint free version for woodelves yet?

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>95% of playtime is spent on campaign map

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>>162676230
>I've never played a total war game before

>>162674531
Are they chasing you across the Empire? Retarded shit in my Beastman playthrough.

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>>162675391

Requesting some one to make a WEBM of Rangers fucking up Black Orcs in a charge.

>>162676398

How the fuck do you get chased as beastmen when your literal encampment is invisible?

>>162676403
why would the dragon be breaking out of the castle walls AND attacking the invading army?

this picture makes no sense

>>162676485
Maybe he's just a dick, ever thought of that?

>>162676474
>AI maphacks
>comes towards you the moment you unvis
>doesn't go 100% back when you invis
granted, they never catch me, but I see them far too often in my radius

>>162676565
no i didn't

I was thinking koolaid man desu

Is thorgrim still garbage?
How is the white dorf?

>>162676485
Because he's not breaking out, a giant threw him

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>>162676403

Made me think of this

>Black orcs will willing work under a goblin warboss
Literally unplayable

>>162676395
it's true tho

>>162676485
maybe the invaders were about to breach that section of wall so the dragon thought he'd surprise them

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What do? That's a lotta dosh

>>162676621

If the AI map hacked I wouldn't fuck them with ambushes so often.

It's just that this playerbase is completely retarded and doesn't count agents/allies as giving the AI vision.

Can you believe there is still retards that complain the AI stays out of your range when you CAN LITERALLY DO THE SAME BY LEFT CLICKING ON THE ENEMY STACK

>>162676768
so what? that's how the games work

>>162676771
#1 sack
#2 raze
#3 wait for AI to resettle
#4 repeat

>>162674414
Rome was and always will be the best you doof

>>162676640
Thorgrim is a buff-bot, he makes all dwarfs scary as fuck, but he won't stand to the bigger lords

White dorf is a much better Ungrim with MAP. WIDE. UNBREAKABLE. for 30 seconds

>>162676771
Sack and occupy always

>>162676963
Austrian economics at their finest

>>162677057
It never was and never will be the best my Romebabby friend.

>>162677060
Ungrim still the best choice?

>>162676771
Sack and occupy.
Chances are you'll have to replace half the buildings anyway.

>>162677202
>White dorf is a much better Ungrim with MAP. WIDE. UNBREAKABLE. for 30 seconds
nigga can u read

What are the worse memes on teedubyagee

>>162674984
we need skavens really bad.

>>162676818
That's the other half of my post.
AI "maphacks" non-invisible units in his fog of war, but can't see invisible units.
The wood elfs aren't allied with all the Empire factions, nor were they allied with Estalia when Orion bee-lines for the Beastman every time.

>>162677267
Wood Elves.

>>162677254
i confused it as thorgim

>>162677254
holy fug

>>162677267
most of the warhammer memes are pretty low effort but theres a few decent ones tbqhwyf

>>162675026
I will never play Chaos until Demons are released.

It's like playing Greenskins without Orcs
oh wait...

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Remeber when TWW was first released and every Empire State would send doom stacks to Nora a if the player was chaos?

>>162677267
Everything related to Warhammer

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I have a question.

The white dwarf was alive at the time of the War of the Beard right? So he must hate elfs with a passion right?

So if I wanted to roleplay as an angry as fuck dwarf that hates elfs this would be correct right?

>>162677517
>>162677267
'mw2 is the best total war'

>>162676230
>Not becoming a master of both the short and long term strategy
I bet you worship Caesar not Pompey

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>>162677275

We need the Western Half of the Old World to be bigger first. Bretonnia is at least half as big as The Empire, Tilea and Esralia are tiny as fuck.

Adding Skaven into that tiny clusterfuck isn't going to help matters

>>162677548
hating elves is never wrong anon

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LOL

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>bretonnians in charge of defending cities and not having their walls used against them

>>162677202
No, in fact, the poor stunty got powercreep'd hard

Grombrindal is a much better fighter, and has a bunch of amazing support abilities (Map wide unbreakable, as I said and a huge debuff), he is also unbreakable himself, to add salt to the wounds

Belegar is a much better duelist, pop his two abilities and he can fuck Archaon and most characters hard

>>162677627
what the fuck is that army comp

>>162677548
You can roleplay as anything if you put "white dwarf" and "hates" in the same sentence

>Border Princes continuously violate your lands but will reject any military access agreement
>also has green smiley

>>162677548
his face answers your question

he even starts with Irondrakes and brimstone gyros for fucks sake, go put the tree-kin into the klin

>>162677765
Earlygame

>>162677060
>Unbreakable on a race which never breaks

what's the point

>>162677593

We can only hope that the Bretonnian FLC, which has been in development forever now, is actually an expansion on Bretonnia's landmass

>>162677548
He was alive even before that, so he probably understands the tragedy and waste of life that was the War of Vengeance/the beard.

If anything he should hate Druchii, not Asur or Asrai.

>>162677765
>Get one full army of melee units to hold your lines
>Get a second army of ranged units
>Roflstomp every single fight

You will soon see the world burn under double stacks of bretonnia paesants.

How am I meant to use Harpies?

>>162678092
>>162677593

They'd have to stretch out Norsca too, since it's basically the same distance horizontally as Empire+Bret

>>162665984
rollan

>>162677821
AI walks through your land freely, you step on foot near their territory and they instantly hate you.

The AI sure can be a dick some times.

>>162678347
bog down ranged or some shit?

QUICK GIVE ME A FUN CAMPAIGN TO PLAY OR ELSE...

>>162678347
like you'd use bats

>>162678460
So I shouldn't be dressing them up in cute schoolgirl outfits and making them sing pop songs?

>>162678531
gobo only

>>162678531
Byzantines in middle era.

>>162678347
Scout for hidden units
Hunt skirmishers/warmachines/wizards
make sure broken units don't rally
disrupt charges
run rearcharges on already engaged units

>>162678531
napoleon sweden

carolus rise TO THE SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEESSSSSSS

>>162678435
Whenever this happens. My internal relations with that Faction tanks to the point where war is the only answer.

Total war, that is.

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these playthroughs get stale pretty fast
should I wardec some dwarfs or the Border Princes?

>>162678347
Very strong harassing unit. Wait for the fight to start and engage enemy ranged units, hold them on your flanks to engage enemy artillery when the enemy sends their troops

If you are sieging you can use them to engage the back of a unit that's in melee on walls and they hurt quite alot

They are also able to run down any fleeing enemies but due to their animations are not exactly the best for the job

Just have 2 max and you will see how usefull they are, think Vampire Counts bats on steroids. Hard.

>>162675173
>lizards
>not dinosaurs who ride on other dinosaurs being ruled by frog mummies

Also the whole mummy thing is clearly Incan

>>162678674
None, go remove elves

>>162678674
you should take back your ancestral homeland you piece of shit

Lizardmen are the most Order Faction in the entire world, they don't have civil wars they don't fall to Chaos Gods, they are literally the perfect beings to fight against Chaos and it's bullshit.

-t.Lizardmen Player

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>>162678976

>CA will implement happiness for Lizardmen

>>162678656
>People listen to the english version of Carolus Rex
I don't get it

>>162679058
i dont speak snownigger

>>162672254
>confederating with the filthy elves

I literally made military alliances with the humans (sweet sweet amber that they don't use) and crushed the Elves under my giant wooden foot of destiny.

>>162679058
>Speaking Swede barbar tongue

>>162679184

>Playing Durthu

might aswell set the difficulty on easy mode

>>162678976
Don't they have occasional (small) scrapes over Slaans disagreeing over a prophecy?

>>162678875
But the greenskins are practically dead, ain't nothing down there

>>162679272
your motherfucking hold is down there dawi

>>162679014

I'll pick up modding just to remove it.

Lizardmen don't fight each other

There's no desire for Slaanesh to work with There's no Bloodlust for Khorne to work with There's no corruption in their society for Nurgle to work with
They never change so Tzeentch get fucked.

Lizardmen are so 100% adapted to battle against chaos, GW stuck their homeland on the farthest possible landmass from Norsca to keep the setting from being over in a month.

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>>162665984
rollan

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>>162678674
Why are Welfs still alive?

>>162677684
But Beggar Nohammer is a gay stuntie.

>>162679357
>GW stuck their homeland on the farthest possible landmass from Norsca to keep the setting from being over in a month.
What do you think would happen?
Would the build a wall around the Chaos portal in the north?
The Slaan are fighting chaos by minimising it's influence and aiding the HE's vortex, not by hitting it with a stick.

>>162679256

Possibly in earlier editions, the 8ed rulebook had no mention of any civil conflict

>>162679675
>kill all the norscan tribes thus preventing chaos from ever being a threat by generational holocausts
inb4 le ebin >lizards >in snow >pick one

Doing some tests of welves vs Morghur. Focusing on ways to kill him quickly so I know what kind of unit comp can work well vs him in campaign.

Despite only 15 armor. He's tanky as heck. The 75% reduction of ranged and magic + regen makes it obvious I need to use melee. However, he is deceptively good in melee. So I'm just sending shit at him to 1v1 him and see what the results are.

Monsters seem good since animation lock out keeps him from applying poison.
Orion got fucking masacred once it got to melee. I was shocked as stat wise I expected Orion to do way more damage then he did.
Great Eagle was inconsistent. First time it ate Morghur alive with barely any damage taken. Second time for whatever reason he ate the eagle alive.
Forest Dragon lost but the fight lasted a decent amount of time.
After beating a forest dragon, and a great eagle he was also able to beat a Treeman. Though the treeman did do massive damage. Second Treeman test, also a dead Tree. It appears to have done 1k damage before death and was dealing damage at a good pace.
Durthu managed a win with 585 life left. No spells cast. (additional note, Morghur's weapon damage does not have a lot of armor piercing. While Durthu has a + armor spell)
Based on Orion's loss. I did not bother trying out the Glade Lord or the Waystalker.

Anyway, I'll do more testing later with units but I'm fairly surprised. I'm used to other factions that have some very powerful melee heros or monsters that can just fight an enemy lord 1v1.

>>162679846
>lizards
>in snow
Pick one.

Woukd a chosen of Khorne be the most powerful of the chaos gods?

Like his whole thing is battle, so his chosen are hard as fuck warriors.

What can't the other chosen even do, nurgles can take more pain, tzeentcn have magic and slaneesh is pink?

>>162679675
>Would the build a wall around the Chaos portal in the north?
Probably.
It's not as though sending armies into it does anything, maybe if you put a bunch of slann there they could do something.
Which makes me think, the lizardmen campaign could be primarily about reawakening Slann so that you can use them against all the shit that's in Lustria, then you go to the old world and fuck everything that even looks remotely like chaos.

>>162674414
>elephant cannons
>mongol MLRS

>>162674984
>tfw every tw dlc gives you less and less endorphins.

>>162680136
Do empire ally with lizardmen?

I can't imagine that they can communicate but they both are order.

>>162679846
You do realize that there are nowhere near enough lizards to do this right?
And that the Chaos Wastes is the size of a continent?
And that said wastes are filled with chaos warriors, trolls, chimeras and pretty much every monster in the setting?
And that there still is a fuckhuge tear in reality constantly bleeding daemons and corruption that the Old Ones weren't able to close?

>>162679675

The legions of Lizardmen armies would actually be able to reach something worth fighting instead of being stuck in Lustria bogged down by Skaven and Darkies. Chaos would have another enemy to fight instead of being nearly 100% focused on humans

They can survive in cold conditions thanks to magic relics like the Solar Engine that provide them with warmth on the move.

>>162680254
They don't care about each other, but the lizzies will murder every human that profanates their temple cities

Anyone in with a white dwarf code?

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>>162666095
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gif