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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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Shit patch
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DAILY REMINDER AUTISM IS GOOD AND NORMIES NEED TO GET OUT REEE
this patch is objectively bad and i can mathematically and systematically prove how, icefraud needs to be deposed
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Xth for Jerax, the #1 player right now.
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Can sheever land lvl25 kunkka torrent now
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>>162608232
Necro is ruined.
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pick me
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>>162608380
Well Necro was already shit so its fine. I would have removed Heartstopper too for another new skill
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PATCH IS SHIT. IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE YOU ARE A LEAGUE KEK/VALVE COCKSUCKER. LEAVE.
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Aghs + Octarine + Refresher Orb Sniper is meta, deal with it.
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You are drinking at the bar. This guy comes and slaps the ass of your girlfriend

what do?
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>7.00b
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>daedalus+jingoo+boundless
>three people dead in one click
gg wp
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>>162607846

I don't understand, I've been running at 120 fps on my 4 year old 770, did everyone buy their cards from a chinese ebay?
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I'm done
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>>162608409
b-but I can't play you, I am scrub.
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>the people hating the patch are spamming facebook frog
really thingken hard
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Nice UI, dotards.
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>>162608439
cut down his tree and kill him while he's stunned for 4 seconds
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give me 5 changes that makes the game bad
protip:you can
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Just counter picked slark with trent because of the root changes. Worked perfectly, pass it along.
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Hotd is the support equivalent of <6.86 drum on carries
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>>162608480
PICK
ME
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1st for valve just went full tribes: ascend
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>>162608487
lousyalaide?
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>>162608439
Slap his ass back because I want to fuck him.
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>>162608439
Find a new girlfriend, he probably killed her imbalanced piece of shit
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played a game with cm, took the +50 damage at level 10

it was okay, made getting last hits super easy when you're popping into an empty lane mid-game (did about 110 dmg to melee creeps at level 10 with bracer and wand) and clearing the odd jungle camp is quicker, but it barely made a difference in teamfights
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>no UI update
The fuck is this shit.
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>>162608534
paying to unlock characters and then abandoning the game for 3 years?
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>>162608409
>normal skill
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>Shrines in base from 5 to 2, one near top barracks and one near bottom barracks
>can't TP to shrines
Balanced

I don't think its possible to take Rosh before the shrines are down, unless you deward and ward around the shrine to see the TPs in coming
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>>162608534
GOTTA JEW FAST
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>>162608491
>UI that hides information a ton more
>runs worse
>introducing a feature that completely fucks the balance
>loads and loads of fucking bugs holy shit who tested this
>shitty balancing in general
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What items do I buy now as Jungle NP?
Talon seems shit now, should I rush midas?
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I come back to /d2g/ every patch and it' might as well be an identical reaction.
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This patch is amazing
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>>162608587
It's better to get the tanky talents now freezing field has a purpose besides looking pretty. It's not like you can't frostbite jungle creeps or get a midas for money
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Did Valve just removed the fucking hotkeys when buying in the shop? It's fucking annoying to click a few times to buy something.
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>>162608587
Should be pretty good for dewarding at that stage of the game.
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>>162608487
nice Adelaide?
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>>162608105
its just valve's plan to make dota the biggest cashcow
>crowdfunding (only 25% lmao) to attract more pro players from other games
>ESPN shilling to attract more normies
>memeing inside the game (over 9000 invoker hat etc.) to attract more redditors
>disable modding and use those mods to get profit
>bullshit hero to increase arcana sell while make another arcana for hero who already has billion of hats (purposely delay it to not overlap with lemonkey king arcana)
>the LOL UI, baron change + HOTS talents
dotards can say all they want but its not going to change what dota has become
a business, not a pure game for fan anymore
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>>162608654
literally 90% of the gulag is normal skill
90% of reddit is normal skill
you're probably normal skill
at the very least, everyone is shit at this game now
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>>162608670
you take sprout at lvl 1 so you can push the camp through trees and pull it to lane creeps, items dont matter
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I have no strong feelings one way or the other on this patch
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I dont really understand valve anymore, im amazed

They could have just literally said "guys we discovered tons of bugs, we will display the patch tommorrow, or wednesday, or whatever"
But no, they rush the damn patch and still tons of bugs
why
why they do this
They could even drop 7.00b patch nerfing the damn monkey, and adding all the HUD good suggestions, but they didnt, and now he's stomping pubs and HUD still look like trash

I know they will do this in like a week, but goddamit, why the rush
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>>162608504
>get overgrowthed
>just pop quas
>or alternatively pop invoke and just tp out
??
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>Having a different opinion than me about this patch
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what are the best maymays of the patch?
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>>162608679
you're clearly a fucking newfag then because this is only the reaction the past few patches because who the fuck could have ever predicted it would get this fucking bad jesus christ
everyone were loving life a mere couple years ago, no patches were instantly insulted to hell and back, certainly not to this extent, i'm probably going to quit the game really, it's not very fun or skill based anymore
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umm guys...treant is op now...
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>>162608670
You should rush +6 treants
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How do you get back into playing this game after a 2-year hiatus?
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>>162608772
is this a new meme?
>>162608794
nah man I am older than you
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>>162608659
oh and also
>this fucking abortion of a shop windows
jesus christ just give me legacy UI
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>>162608815
Just fucking PLAY IT

NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME NOW
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>>162608487

who is this
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>>162608815
Just jump into unranked and go with the flow, picking whatever you want, if you lose well hopefully you learned something
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Some stray observation from my first games on 7

>Map seems zoomed way out
>Chat not working
>This will make no difference to my low level scrub games
>Monkey meme is a meme
>I want Luna to sit on my face and suffocate me
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>>162608735
same here man
I have played it for too long and dont wanna let it go, but dota is something completely different now
and not in a good way
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>>162608751
>trying to justify your shittiness this hard
literally 50% of the gulag is 4k, which is FUCKING GARBAGE MIND YOU
even 5k is garbage
6k is barely good anymore
fuck this game basically
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WE WANT THE LOL AUDIENCE
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>>162608865
my gf
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>>162608762
hello r/eddit
aren't we complaining when is the patch go live
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>>162608924
but there's still turnrates
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>>162608662
this is good pasta
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>>162608815
you don't, because it feels exactly the same: vapid, mindless and irritating
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All the others see through your loser disguise, but at least you've fooled Ilexa into thinking you're a real hero.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5i1ats/700_gives_me_headache_every_game/

Redditors can't play without getting migraines from the shitty new UI LMAO.
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>tfw invoker is dead
the frog has finally done it
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>>162608762
>why they do this
Because it would be a broken promise? They said the patch would go live on Monday.
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Okay /d2g/

WHY IS THIS NEW UPDATE GIVING ME A HEADACHE
WHY IS THIS NEW UPDATE GIVING *EVERYONE* A HEADACHE

this patch is literally as bad as PSVR, I cannot play more than a couple games without getting a pounding headache
are there any options I need to disable or change
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Aurelius voice pack when?
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>>162608984
pretty sure it will be gone before 2018
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I remember last patch thinking that the biggest worry of the next patch would be trying to figure out if any of the new aghs upgrades were any good as Icefrog paved his path to giving an upgrade to every hero, and wondering if itd be viable to rush whatever cool combo item they added in next, like they did when making Bloodthorne and Dragon Lance.
But no. We got this patch. This is the worst timelinr.
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>>162608984
wait 8.00
gaymen womyn are mad because turn rates are sexist and valve removes it
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>>162609062
the fog of war
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>>162608878
Game SEEMS zoomed out, but its just the HUD. Old HUD was very big, and the new one is insanely small so its alot more empty screen space for the actual game
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>>162609082
>wait 8.00
so another decade?
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>>162609038

Carl isn't dead, you're just forced to go QW now. We're back to spamming tornado and EMP boys.
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>>162609062
Disable screen shaking.
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>>162609025
>Can't play a fucking game without getting a headache
Why is Reddit so subhuman?
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>>162608953
i wasnt, im not a 4chaggot, neither a ledditor
Dont care about your opinions, i just care about my game

>>162609039
Then dont fucking promise anything
Just drop the patch, "7.00 is now on the test client, go there, tells us about bugs and what we can improve, thanks"
Then bla bla do stuff, and say suddenly release the shit when its ready
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TREANT NECRO ON UR TEAM AND U CANT LOSE ADD VENO IF U LIKE FOR AUTO WIN
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>>162609068
This is truly the most buttfucked timeline
Why didn't you stop this?
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>>162609197
>Then dont fucking promise anything
Then you'd have tons of people asking when's the patch
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I like the new patch
t. 6 winstreak MK spammer
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>>162608881
ki swear there is one of these with each patch
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>>162609068

My motives are complicated.
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>people going "we lol now" and "they will remove this and we lol now" when valve hasnt removed anything, but just added
Love this meme
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>tfw don't give a fuck about any of these dumb gameshitters and am just waiting for esports
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Why is it so hard to add an option for old HUD
Not everyone like (shit) change
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Does Monkey King ever say "OOH OOH AH AH"?

This is important.
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How do I build carry lich?
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>>162609237
>Then you'd have tons of people asking when's the patch
Like always, i guess?
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>>162609232
>trump got elected
>but dota was jewed forever
was it worth it?
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>>162609285
>EG, DC, Wings and Newbee in 5 days
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>>162609337
I just read this in sniper voice and spit my goddamn water
good post man
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I think Ive singled out what it is I hate most about Wukong. He literally doesnt feel like a Dota hero to me, because there is nothing I can identify from Warcraft 3 on him. Every single hero has their kits come fron some abilities in WC3, except for him. I know coding or jass is magic, but even then, he really doesnt feel like he's a Dota hero. His kit isbtotally foreign to me. Theres no precedent for what he would be because he is the first of his kind. And apparently his kind will be broken bullshit with the skill traits of a LoL champ.
The future hero releases dont look bright.
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Juggernaut Arcana?
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dude +6 treants lmao
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>>162609363
ring of repick into le balanced magic hating man or hoho haha
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>>162609363
Draskyl just finished playing carry Lich, it wasn't very exciting.
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>>162609421
are they going to be playing on 7.00?
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>>162609285
Wanting to watch esports without having first hand experience about what changed
Enjoy Maut/LD "explaining" what's happening
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For you guys who are pretty much officially done with this game, how long have you been playing dota as a whole? I started back in 08.

It was a good 8 year run but you can definitely tell year to year the negative influence Valve had on the game.

Oh well I had my fun.
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How to play Treant now?
Uber aggressive jungle ganker?
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>>162609459
Obviously, Valve/tournaments dropped the idea of Tournament and Live versions years ago
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>>162609403
I dunno, something about this timeline seems ominous to me
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>>162608914
i feel obliged to tell you that 4.1k is the 1% based off of math that purge did keeping into account mmr increase.
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visage is so fucking bad now holy shit

your familliars just get stunned and slowed and kited by literally everyhting in exisance

they somehoe made him worse than before
completely fucking useless fuck this game

t. ex visage spammer
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can you marry a nun? because Harry just stole Maria from me when I fucked off to the south trying to find my mother
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>>162609435
>reeee why didn't they copy and paste several abilities from Warcraft 3 onto this completely new hero
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>>162609472
i'm a newfag, only started playing in 2011 when i got my beta invite
i'd dare say i got pretty good at the game though, until i started hating every new patch more and more from 82 and onwards, but really the ride started in 80 when blink dagger mana cost was removed
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https://twitter.com/Peterpandam/status/808534245828333568

the CEO of Dota has spoken
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Everyone calm down
Reddit hates the patch
We may have some good shit now

>>162609582
Can you speak human language?
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Chinese qualifiers on starladder right now.

First pro games on the new patch, should be hilarious.
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The new jungle is so shit.
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>>162609709
ANON WANT MILKY
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>>162609598
It makes him feel like hes from a different game because no other hero can do what he does. If you cant replicate some part of a hero's kit in WC3 through some means and have it be functional, it should be reconsidered for actually being put in. We cant forget our roots, because 98% of the game is based on those roots.
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>>162609472

2009

I'm not done yet though, just going to stop playing for three months and hope it's dota again by then

if it's still the same than i'll be done with multiplayer games for the most part, I liked how dota was relatively slow and methodical, now it feels like a custom map's deathmatch mode
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>>162609709
is that sideboob
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Without reactionist twats just yelling "shill" like they do every patch, can someone tell me how fucked the game actually is now?
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>>162609465
edgy antisemitic bigotry is NOT cool
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>>162609767
Dire jungle is nearly the same, just new elevation. It still VERY straightforward....in comparison to the radiant jungle which is a fucking maze.

Even last time the terrain/jungles got changed the radiant jungle was a clusterfuck compared to Dire
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>>162609672
the draft master miser support man has spoken, patch is shit
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>>162609813
How about you actually play it and decide for yourself?
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TELL ME WHY
TELL ME WHY
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>>162609787
This mindset is fucking dumb.
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This guy has been cancelled.

They were toying around with how his ethereal form worked, and then decided to just incorporate what they had into Necrophos.
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>>162609845
Cramming for finals and have no energy
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god damned /d2g/ I tried those shin black ramen you guys were shitposting about the other day and that was far spicier than you made it out to be
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>>162609813
Besides the UI being shit and the many bugs, I'm enjoying it.

Seems like this new meta/patch encourages more fighting.

I dunno, I'll give it a month or two before everyone stops complaining. We went through the same shit back when those new items were added.
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>>162609918
They're not going to be skellingtons into the game because of China. Now stop spamming.
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>>162609813
Nothing a few letter patches can't fix. UI can be tweaked by tomorrow, but they definitely need a letter patch for Monkey King balancing, a few hero tweaks, and 100% the biggest shit needs to be how fast you get levels, and the gold spikes and gold loss on death.

Any game you spectate right now, at 25 minutes probably all cores are atleast level 20. Every game that goes to 40 minutes, everyone is level 23-25
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>>162609918
He was never going to be in the game in the first place, he's way too gory.

They toned down pudge and naix in China for a reason.
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>>162609787
>It makes him feel like hes from a different game because no other hero can do what he does.

Good. Fuck WC3's limitations.
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>>162609918
Q: Raise Skeletons
>Active, AoE, Summon
>Raise all corpses in target aoe to create up to 2/4/6/8 Skeleton Warriors under your control
>Skeletons have 20-32 damage, 260 ms, take 2 hero attacks / 4 creep attacks to destroy and have an ability "Wither"
>Wither: Every attack on a hero lowers that hero's maximum HP by 3% for 40 seconds (multiple stacks are multiplicative)
>60 duration 12 cooldown

W: Corpse Explosion
>Active, AoE
>Detonates all corpses in an aoe in a rapid chain reaction. Detonates up to 6 corpses instantly and 1 every 0.4 seconds after that.
>Each corpse detonated deals 30/40/50/60 damage and stuns for 0.1 seconds.
>Detonated corpses aren't destroyed and can be used for further casts.
>10 cooldown

E: Gore Rain
>Active, AoE, Channeling
>Vomits forth a torrent of corpses in target AoE. Ejects 2/3/4/5 corpses per second. Every enemy hit by a corpse gets -8% movespeed and -2 armor for 5 seconds, stacking independently. Corpses count as skeleton warrior corpses no matter what they were when consumed.
Subskill: Consume Corpses
>Devours all corpses in target aoe. Can store up to 20 corpses at once.
>Passively generates 1 corpse every 5/4/3/2 seconds.
>You can cahnnel Gore Rain during Dance of the Dead simultaneously.

R: Dance of the Dead
>Active, Ultimate, Channeling
>While channeling for 6/8/10 seconds, all corpses are reanimated as uncontrollable summons, and all allies enter a frenzied state while in the aoe. Units reanimate 1 second after dying, whether allied or enemy, and reanimated units will keep reanimating each time they die. Enemy and allied heroes are returned, but still uncontrollable. All reanimated units die when channeling ends. Frenzies allies for +30/40/50% movement and attack speed.
>Dance of the Dead is replaced with a subability while Channeling: Focus. Makes all revives attack a target of your choice.
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>>162609813
It's not inherently bad, although its definitely bad/rough right now. Give it a week or two to get worked out and it has the potential to be a lot of fun.
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>>162609935

black is overpriced but still good shit

buy normal, use your saved money on some cabbage and chopped garlic with a chili paste like sambal oelek for god tier instant ramen
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>>162609813
MK is pretty fucking broken
New HUD is new, and maybe good, but lacking the info of the old HUD and also broke most custom HUDs
Some change from the new HUD is legitimately giving people migraines from extended play sessions
Replays are probably broken
Chat apparently doesnt work
Game performance is EVEN WORSE now, with many complaints of losing half your frames or more
Everyone is getting free gold
Death balls are really effective now and generally get you further ahead than actually farming
Valve cant be original to save their lives
Shrines probably shouldng exist
Game is getting faster and faster
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WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO MY SHOP HOTKEYS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Monkey King gets a 80x4 damage ability for one ability point that costs no mana and gives life steal

how is this balanced? he literally doesn't even need to use skills to win a lane he just hits people 4 times and gets 130 damage at level 1 with lifesteal. With 300 attack range that's not even hard especially against a melee hero.
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Did I pick a bad time to start playing this game?

Also, I assumed the tutorial would be more fleshed out than it is
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>>162609951
>doomsayers when people's mental muscle about cast range, attack range and cooldowns was thrown into the trash
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>>162609813
UI's fucked, shop's fucked, FPS's fucked, KDAs are super inflated because fighting is super encouraged now, but there's more objectives and I think in the end when all these issues are sorted, the game will probably be slightly better off.
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Does anyone have that icefrog comic where the blue frog serves up anon a plate of shit, he tries it and starts bitching about how it's now ruined.
Anon then proceeds to crawl back to the plate and continue eating while the frog smiles?
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The only problems I have with the UI is that you have to hold ALT to see your attributes, KDA, and creep score. This game is getting way too reliant on the ALT key.

>>162610078
It's a better time to play than any other time because everything is different and no one knows what to do now.
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7.00 took away the ability to commend and see a effigy's commends.

Someone make a reddit post about this so it gets reverted right away please
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Why is the Hassan family so right?
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>>162610078
You picked a good time, actually. No one know how to play anymore.
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>>162610147
That is useless shit nobody gives a shit about/
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>>162609709
is that sheever with sideboob?
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>>162609813
We won't know until after TI7. The sheer amount of money will make every pro player's (read: people who actually understand the game) feeling surface
If an established team wins TI, it will be hailed as refreshing, groundbreaking, etc. If it is won by new players everyone will say dota was ruined forever
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>>162610132

it's been used incessantly
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reminder to choose "reduce death time" talent if you can or you will have to wait a minute or more every time you die
>inb4 dont die
not with this fighting patch
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REMINDER:
dota_select_hero npc_dota_hero_monkey_king
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>>162609813
week or two weeks to fix everything and it will be pretty good in my opinion
the mechanics and the ideas are good, but the implementation is so fucking bad
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>>162603419
what is this shiggy referencing?
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>>162609598
it really does feel like a lol hero tho, Wave clear Aoe, a slow, gap closer, stun and Autoattack buff.
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>>162610153
>Yawar

Must suck to be the Lester Nygaard of Dota
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>>162610078
Patch week is the best time to start playing because not a lot of people will flame you for doing dumb shit.
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a-almost there, g-guys..
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>>162610139
YES FINALLY MY ALT PRESSING SKILLS FROM WAR3 IS USEFUL AGAIN
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the first two i get but what's so good about LD now? are people building damage on the hero?
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>>162610218
I like the idea behind talents, and right now its mostly fine, but its just all the gold and xp changes that really fucked the pace of the game up

Worst part of talents is, since most heroes are pretty good and just needed a push in stats, all the 10-20 talents are awful and if a hero was already good he got pretty shafted at all levels with boring ass talents.
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>Starladder is trying to happen
>DotA so buggy they can't even start a game without being kicked back to main menu

This is fucking hilarious.
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>>162610261
So much of his stuff would be considered a red flag for Riot's devs though.
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>>162610153
everyone agrees the UI is fucking garbage futuristic minimalist bullshit, hopefully IF comes down from his tripping and gives the option to use the old HUD that most people have played thousands of games on
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>>162610356
I like the new UI for its minimalism
I hate it for when it is missing functionality or has poorly streamlined stuff like the shop or causes headaches
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>>162610254
You know in the Monkey King reveal trailer, how in the background there was a weird chanting going on? That happens when he ults
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>>162610021
>Fuck the entire foundation of Dota thus far and what has stopped heroes from devolving into LoL-tier messes
Anything that isnt based on WC3 is inherently going to drift into LoL's territory because they specifically went after things Dota didnt have at the time. If new heroes stray from that, then theyll just end up being weird hybrids that have the skills of a LoL champ but with Dota numbers.
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>>162608439
start running if he slaps her three more times
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>>162610312
radiance burn got buffed on non-illusion carriers
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>>162610326
I don't think talents shafted ANYTHING, they're arguably more powerful than picking +2 stats because you can get something like +200 health at level 10 which is worth more than stats at that level
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>>162610261
>>162610337
oh and a way to regen health in lane. The only thing missing is a resurrect mechanic
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>>162610191
yes
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>>162610356
>everyone agrees the UI is fucking garbage futuristic minimalist bullshit
implying this much.
i love this new UI. Sure, it needs some tweaks but it's definitely better than the clusterfuck the old one was
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All the talents mean that everyone is even stronger ~20 minutes into the game so one lost teamfight usually means the winning team takes a lane of rax with their extra 40-80 damage on the carries, not to mention how much extra gold they have from this patch

I want off icefrogs wild ride
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>>162609258
Icefrog's motives are... very complex.
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Is there a way to search the shop at the moment via words?

I have been deliberately avoiding learning item placement in the second window because of ever shifting item numbers...but without a search feature I may have to.
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>>162609965

I didn't even post for months.
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>>162610261
Tree jumping isn't even possible in LoL because the only purpose of trees in LoL is just to be fucking walls. You can't destroy them. Plus, Riot HATES stealth.
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Why did they do it? why did they have to kill dota? I'm too old and stubborn to relearn the entire fucking game
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>>162610489
The meta has always been deathball -> teamfight -> deathball. When will IF give us back the split pushing and late game meta?
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>>162610438
>Anything that isnt based on WC3 is inherently going to drift into LoL's territory

Oh, so the game should always saddle itself with restrictions of an old-ass game out of paranoia that anything unrestricted will be LoL?

Talk to me when Dota does away with hard crowd control that lasts more than a second.
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>>162610487
>Calling the old UI a cluserfuck when this new shit has everything clustered together in a tiny space

Don't post my boyfriend when you're saying dumb shit like this.
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>>162610438
When I look at Earth Spirit, who was on WC3 in like 2011 or 20112, I don't see a fucking spec of anything else WC3 or Dota in him. He has an innate ability that gains charges, his first two skills are synergistic as fuck with said innate ability, also has a gap closer, and a press for big aoe magic damage ability with more synergy.

>>162610469
Its hero specific. Some heroes definitely got fucked because they were mostly good. Other heroes its completely good for because maybe a support needed 250 hp but didn't have gold for a vit booster and now they have it built in as a talent. Maybe a hero has shit/no armor and now they get armor without spending gold and item slot on it, and for a support they probably wouldn't be able to either
>>
>play a couple games
>nothing feels that different besides me assraping some stupid monkey as Timbersaw every game

Eh.
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>>162610489
lol. good luck pushing with that +40 damage only a handful carries get when you're up against shrines
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>>162610480
>>162610261
and a skillshot
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why the fuck do icefrog needs to implement everything so suddenly, holy shit

Imagine it could have been just talents, monkey king, remodel and UI
fix the UI, use 7.00b, c, d and bla bla to fix the monkey and balance the talents, and we are fine

Then, drop 7.01, map changes, shrines, and games faster


Its not like they are behind a schedule, why do they have to rush themselves like that

>>162610326
i like it too, it really changes a lot, but i honestly felt tired after two games
I wanted to fight, but at the same time pick runes, but at the same time defend a tower, but at the same time use shrine, and use courier and so much shit, and suddenly i have 2000 gold and lvl 17

the game's too fast
Also add all the map changes


>>162610469
they shafted a lot since different talents for different heroes mean weaker heroes can get bonuses that are more useful than +2 to stats
It makes heroes be closer to themselves
Imagine a support, do you prefer +2 to all stats or %15 magic resistance? or +25 move speed? or +100 cast range?
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>Your favourite hero will never get +6 treant'd
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>>162610545
Actually one of the assassins, Talon, recently got reworked to be able to jump over walls specifically for some HARDCORE PARKOUR mobility. If they just combined Fizz's troll pole ability and Talon's parkour, Wukong's tree hopping wouldnt be far from the realm of possibility.
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>>162610450
by like 10 dmg a second. still dont get what good the -50 sec resurrection is when Spirit Bear has 120 sec CD, unless getting ahgs is core and you can backpack ur dead bears items
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>>162610686
t. 1k mmr
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roster changes ?
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>hold ALT to see stats
>no stats show up
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>You can share regen rings/stones with your teammate so they can regen
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>>162610804
4.9k, which is like the top 10% isn't it? I imagine if it doesn't feel that different from me it doesn't feel that much different for the lower MMRs

I'm sure that the higher MMRs certainly feel a difference but I don't
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Monkey King is overpo-
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>>162610549
t.calcified brain
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>Rosh has a Chirstmas hat
>Trump won the war on "happy holidays"
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>>162610905
DELET THIS
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>Visage in every ranked game
Thanks Frosty toad.
I knew my days of playing visage in the past would come to good use.
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I'd like Treant a lot if his invis range didn't feel so wonky.
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>>162610870
wow that lina is a cute boy
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What team will our guy, SingSing, join?
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>>162610774
Except League also has no elevation or possibility to get flying vision. So if your up there, it would be broken to not have a way to see them, so normal wards and shit WOULD see them, which makes it mostly pointless
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>>162610905
>ranged
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Can Witch Doctor look at it go again?
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>>162610905
>almost 56% wr in sub 2k, less than 50% in every other bracket

TRIPLE DIGIT MMR RETARDS EXPOSED
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>>162610556
Never. Valve is in charge, not Abdul. Abdul just does what they say for a sweet share of the dosh.
>>
>>162610624
Those restrictions were the only thing stopping kits from becoming more LoL-like. We've been riding on the heroes of day's past for so long that nobody considered that a entirely new hero might be drastically different than what was ever put in. But now its time to just see what happens, because theres no other heroes to port over.
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>>162610905
48% for a hero day 1 that everyone is picking and has NO idea how to use or has experience with is pretty fucking insane.
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>>162610985
> >150 attack range
>mellee
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REMINDER THAT THE GULAG IS ALWAYS WRONG
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>>162610961
og
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>>162610905
Nerf passive
Boundless is not effected by his damage and instead is a scaling physical ability, like 100/200/300/400 seems fine and change crit to scaling
300 to 150 attack range like all other fucking melee cores

Done. Its really dumb his Q is his damage, its really fucking dumb
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Can we talk about this? Are we getting Water Spirit next or what?
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>>162611058
only he's literally classified as melee
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>>162611058
>
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>>162610967
it plays pretty similarly and has the same gameplay purpose tho, to effortlessly get over walls/terrain and avoiding line of sight.
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>>162611070
>sing
>ana
>s4
>jerax
>fly

could this team be anymore our guys?
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>>162611173
He's purple, so Arcane Spirit
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quickly /d2g/ post your best lycan pics, now that hes back
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>>162611027
>Those restrictions were the only thing stopping kits from becoming more LoL-like.

Complete fucking horseshit. WC3 limitations had purpose in design philosophy aside from being an obstacle that Icefrog constantly had to work around at all times.

Hell, Rubick didn't even fully work as intended until he got ported to Dota 2.
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>>162611173
>>162611262
It'll probably be a spirit of time or something
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>>162611224
im ok with this
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>>162611285
*had no purpose
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>>162610450
>>162610312
Not to mention root is a crazy good disable now
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>>162611270
this is the #1 Lycan pic enjoy
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Check'em
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i got food on my left click button
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>>162611461
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>>162611224
ana is fucking garbage
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>>162611224
in what world is bigdaddy notail not our guy?
>>
this patch is great, it's just terrific, i have alot of chinese friends theyre great theyre handsome and terrefic and they say that this patch is one of the greatest patch theyve ever played, this patch is going to make dota great again
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>>162611461
>4,1k party mmr
>games are enjoyable, feel like im pretty much in the right skill bracket, only slightly over 50% winrate
>2,5k solo
>games are such a retarded clusterfucks that i can maybe play 1 solo game once every few weeks without getting angry
>>
>>162609965
why are chinks such fucking pussies?
>>
So... backpack items are dissabled, right? Does that mean that if I have a gem in the backback and die it doesn't get dropped?
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>>162611618

Gem cannot be placed into backpack, neither can divine.
Read the notes.
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>>162611509
ana is good.
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The fuck, Brek? One moment you're being portrayed as a bro and now you want to kill people for money?
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>>162611618
yes
>>
>first game in new patch
>feels almost like a new game
wew
>two matches later
>fuck, I'm' still playing the same shit game why don't I move on with my life FUCK
>>
Anyone watching starladder?
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>>162611524
he is parasite
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>>162608984
Don't you dare mess with turnrates and backswing
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>>162611803

Yes, trying to.
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>pull allnighter
>feel drowsy as fuck
>nap for 5 minutes
>wide awake
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>>162608232
So I just got home from school.

God I fucking hate Alaska.
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>>162611671
What? He was a bro till the end, they never seriously fought each other and didn't go after Goku, if anything I think Goku was the one who left without even trying to convince his buddy to go with him.

He was seriously asking why was he against the idea of becoming actual pit fighters but instead of an answer he got ditched just like that.
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>>162611671
What's so bad about becoming pit fighters?
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>>162611887
Brek pls
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>>162611853
stop while you can
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>>162611853
Honeypot state
>>
how do i see my stats??? how do i figure out how much str/agi/int i have??
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>>162608815
1. Pick Omni
2. Win
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>>162611671
>we could have Brek as a new hero
FOR FUCK'S SAKE BREK
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>>162611671
Brek hero release when?
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>>162612001
hold ALT
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>>162612001

Hold ALT
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>>162612001
Hold ALT, yea it's dumb. Reddit's complaining so expect a checkbox soon.
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>>162612001
Hold ALT then press F4
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>>162611671
>Brek fits the fourth spirit's silouette perfectly.
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>>162611853
kys famalam
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>>162612029
>>162612049
>>162612057
holding alt doesn't display them unless i'm too fucking dumb to figure out where it would be. its not replacing the damage/armor/ms bar anyway
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>>162611671
what even is a living anathema
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>>162611597
just gotta wait till int ranked man. i climbed to 2.8k to 3.7k with int ranked and I just got 4k mmr today, the int ranked recalibration really helped me get away from the lower mmr bracket.
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>>162612106
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>>162612127

Well it should be where your armour/damage/ms is, so check your keybinds, verify game cache, uninstall until the UI is less shit.
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>>162612117
He isn't purple though
>>162612016
I think the fact that he's staying shows that there won't be a chance of him becoming a new hero.
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>>162612179
What is int ranked?
Is it when you only pick silencer and OD?
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>>162612231
>implying he won't start fighting for the Dire for money and end up clashing with MK on the battlefield in a furious battle between former friends
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>>162612257
International ranked was an alternate queue for battle pass owners during the International, if you got a higher MMR you could swap it for your lower one.
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>our guy xyclopz casting the first competitive game in the history of this patch
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who's the person in the picture frame on tiny's desk?

>>162612117
Some people hypothesize the Spirits are the five elements of Chinese Astrology,
>Water
>Fire
>Earth
>Wood - ? Earth Spirit count?
>Metal

I'd think a Metal Spirit
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>>162612257
international ranked. it came out last TI and I suppose it will come out with this TI as well. you can recalibrate to a higher mmr. or i just got memed in which case fuck you
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>>162612371
>Sorry I miss solokill guys I just mess minimap
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>>162611069
was the gulag wrong about Trump?
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>>162612395
Well there is only 4 so I guess not. The 4th will be Celestial or some non-element thing
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>>162612395
It's Metal, Wood, Earth, Fire, and Wood. Storm Spirit doesn't fit.
>>
Why is nobody talking about the fact that the Shrine is basically the night elf's moonwell? Don't you faggots love WC3 stuff?
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>>162611945
It's too late for me. Valve is killing my last reason to live, and now I need something else to give my life meaning. I'm moving to Florida soon though, my father helped me purchase a 4-plex in Jacksonville, so I'll have a constant income and a place to be a neet all at once.

Protip: learn how to manage multi-family housing. It lets you live like a neet while still being a benefit to society
>>
It will be water spirit, its too obvious

The problem is that every spirit belongs to an attribute
and this activates my autism, i dont want two spirits in the same attribute
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>>162612578
What is WISDOM
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>>162612513

Ahh yes, Wood and Wood, the two most different elements, though sometimes people think they are related, they are in fact very unique in their own right.
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>>162612513
>It's Metal, Wood, Earth, Fire, and Wood.
FUCK, replace one of the Woods with Water
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>>162612139
Your new step-father
>>
Dear god, Xyclopz hasn't read the patch notes, has he?
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>>162608924
Game is not easier in any shape or form?
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>>162612554
the idea is ok i guess, the problem is shrines belong to a more slower game
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>>162612609
meanie
>>
seriously what the hell is with the new jungle?
>>
Shrines are getting nerfed next balance patch, right?
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>>162612692
There's more camps but they spawn less often
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>>162612653
B-BUT THEY REMOVED ATTRIBUTE LEVELING AND NOW YOU CAN'T CHOOSE TO GET STATS AT ANY LEVEL ANYMORE. BOOHOO
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>>162612708
its a 5 min cd senpai OSfrog
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>>162612672
What? Shrines are a direct buff to roamers, specially now that jungling is dead. If anything they speed the game up.
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>Offlaner fucks up and gets outtraded hard by me as a support
>whoops haha time to go heal to full at the nearby shrine XDDDD
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>>162612692
chain pull is ILLEGAL
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DOTARDS

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>162612692
DUDE STAIRS LMAO
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>>162612796
I see nothing wrong

t. Abdul
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>>162612796
ALL THAT FUCKING GOLD
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>>162612796
WE
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>>162612796
f-free gold?
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>>162612796
You think that's amazing?
Check THIS out
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THERE ARE VALVE FANKEKS ON FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE LITERALLY POLICING /D2G/

>THEY DO IT FOR FREEEEEEEE
>>
DID MY WAIFU GET BUFFED?
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>>162612708
They shouldn't even exist
>>
Make it so shrines aren't activated until 10 minutes into the game. There, balanced.
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>>162609435
Yeah because heroes like undying are so warcraft 3

off yourself
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>>162612790
>Old patch
>Whoa man I took a bad trade, let me go suicide to jungle creeps, respawn immediately and be back with full HP when the creep wave hits my tower XDDsddad
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>They removed the neat rotating day/night indicator
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>>162612796
where da hood at
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>>162612892
Ilexa gangbanged by 11 treants when?
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>>162612902
Lina is still total dogshit

>>162612708
Reduce the amount in base to 2, can't TP to them but they also lose gold bounty.

>lose T2s
>enemy team kills both shrines which is +300 gold to the entire enemy team
Literally what is the point? You lost map control, and now the enemy team got +300 each and you can't contest
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>>162608298
>change is always bad
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>>162612981
The point is to actually defend T2's now
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>>162610880
Youve been able to do this for years
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>>162612981
Its windranger dumb dumb
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>>162613030
Except if you are behind, you can't. Then you get SUPER behind because everyone got +300 gold
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>>162609568
He is great now but you can't right click, fire and forget with familiars until they are out of attack charges to stun anymore

You need to micro familiars more and or wait a bit until slows and stuns are thrown and visage is super tanky now, needs something like 250 damage to remove a layer of cloak
>>
>Tfw you almost turned on the stream but then you saw it was Xyclops casting
Really saved myself right here
>>
quite possibly the worst thing about this patch is that you can't spam with keybinds. before this patch you could type: bind k say SKROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in console, and it would fill up the entire screen.

now it looks like SKROOOOOOOOOOOOO... and is a lot smaller. spamstrat is dead
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why does this part look like complete garbage? like what the fuck is that timer? its literally a downgrade
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>>162612796
>le silly primate jumps into a nearby tree
>presses q
>profit
wow
>>
>>162612796
Ilexa getting pounded by all those eidolons when?
>>
How often does Kunkka reach level 25 this patch? This is VERY important.
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>>162613151
Tragic, you'll actually have to be less of a faggot now
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>>162612692
Do you even bro?

>>162612808
I remember when the map tools came out, I just plopped a bunch of land and rivers around and put a billion stairs around the map because it was pretty neat how they adapted to where you put them.

Then Valve made that a map
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>>162613175
ilexa getting PURPLED when?
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Remove shrines

The regen buffs over the last couple years have been more than enough
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>>162613237
>>162613175
Ilexa is my daughter

Stop thinking naughty things about my daughter
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What kind of meme world are we living in now?
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Are they seriously not gonna add LH/Stats so we don't have to press fucking alt?
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>>162613153
Is this what faggots are complaining about now? Nobody liked the old timer, it was utter shit just like Slardar and Viper models.
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>wake up
>no Ilexa hero
dotards...
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>>162612943
He has to spend 50 gold to tp back, leaving the rest of his team with no help if bot gets dove for 60 seconds, while also losing a chunk of gold towards their item.

Now he spends 15 seconds walking the short distance to his shrine to heal to full and walk back with no cost except the 5 minute cooldown.

A cooldown which is meaningless because if you took that much damage the enemy laners probably expended mana to cast spells along with having to use regen, since they don't have a shrine nearly as close.

This is literally taking all risk out of the offlane. Offlane is as easy as safe lane now, since pulls are impossible and you only die if you're completely retarded.
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>>162613267
nice try but i've seen the pictures
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>>162613280
Nothing to do with balance, more shitters are playing for autistic slark mains to kill and snowball off
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>>162613280
Wait what? Why did Slark get buffed?
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>>162613218
It was fun though, I had cool binds. This one bind would say: "IIIIII'MMM COOMMIIINNNNGGG CUUUUUUUUUNNNNTTT" It would not only fill up the screen, but it would make the enemies afraid and surprised.
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>>162613339
Im pretty sure Slark was mostly nerfed
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How can you take this game seriously when there's no loli hero?
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>>162613414
?
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>>162613414
dude
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>it's another episode of newfags first map change
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Talents are a good idea, but heros all power spike too quickly because of it. XP/Gold nerds werent enough to compliment them. Too much to do at any given time, jungles are literally mazes. Visage and MK are broke.
Backpacks are good ideas, so are shrines.
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How is new Techies?
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>>162612796
>use one (1) AoE on eidolons
>FREE 1k gold
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>>162613475
This is too much, Anon. The entire game is sped up by about +33%
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>>162613321
>pulls are impossible
What did he meant by this?
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>>162613497
Mostly the same as old techies in that they either lose or win your game the moment they are picked
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>>162613497
sluggies.
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>>162613497
Broke. His new suicide is too good, and his stun (sorry, root) is way strong
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>>162613517
Blame the xp/gold changes, not the map.

I'd be down for shrines to fuck off though, offlaners already don't have to worry about pulls as much and junglers could get bottle
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>enemy team get their level 10s and 15s before us
>the game is now unwinnable

Simply EPOCHAL le redditfrog and Valve
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>betting against the frog
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>hey you know how the kills, inventory, hp, and mana have all been in the same spot for four years
>what if we jsut move them all around xd
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>>162613460
succ
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>>162613460
who dat
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>>162613497
fine but his winrate is going down
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>>162613597
This is killing me. The UI lost readability, not enough contrast on the hp/mana bars. Level and xp is hard to see quickly, and the new unit selection UI is SHIT
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>>162613475
the map feel way more changed all at once than before this time around for some reason
like it's such a clusterfuck now
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>>162613497
He can actually gank and is a legit hero now.
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>Dotards will still deny the immense power of le plus 6 treants
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guys im retarded and want to know where you cast for tinker jungle send help pls
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>>162613573
Icefrog is clearly trying to kill pulling. It is the most newbie-unfriendly mechanic in the game after all.
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>>162613650
a skeleton
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shrines only heal like 600 hp, thats not even enough for a fill me up
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>>162613726
There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a game more beginner-friendly.
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>>162613654
people keep tryign to play him as the old way

so far I've only played with one person that understands how the new hero works. You just create a minefield near runes or in the jungle and go with your team when they're fighting

protip put a statis and mine together to ensure they take dmg if theyre melee.
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>>162609472

doesn't matter how long ago you started. I played 10 years ago too but only like 400 games on dotacash and such, just dicking around like a retarded middle schooler

what matters is how long you played this game seriously, and for me it was about 3-4 years grinding seriously during college. I believe this patch is a sign to quit forever and get on with my life. too much time has been wasted playing this game, and now the developers have literally shit in my eye with this patch. It's clear I have nothing in common with the new playerbase. I don't buy skins or hats and I don't even know what the fuck is a battlepass or a season pass or whatever the fuck valve has people paying money for these days. I don't like reddit memes and I hate all the dota personalities. I just want solid pub gameplay and esports, and it's clear valve cares more about making money off the playerbase than the game itself. This patch represented the largest shift in a series of shifts away from classic dota mechanics towards LoL/HotS/whatever bullshit, I don't even know what the fuck they want this game to be but it's not fucking Dota, that's for sure.

Balancing a hero from an actual reddit meme (le pocket riki xDD) was the last straw. I don't know how you "fans" actually support that bullshit, and every one of you defenders of this new patch makes me want to kill myself. Let it end.
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>>162613756
600 hp is enough to make early fights in the jungle the biggest bullshit ever.
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>>162613704
>Sven cleave
>Ember cleave
I could go on
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Is the Shrine's healing ability working properly now in main client?
When I used the test client, I tried to activate the healing ability by clicking the ability but nothing happened. Then sometimes it just randomly activated the heal and put the ability on cooldown
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>>162613741
I miss Creep
Wish he was here
Ilexa would be better
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>>162613756
Its early game thing, and helps some heroes stay on the map to farm mid game.

They really need to be removed entirely or tweaked heavily. 150g bounty to the team ahead is so dumb for 2 forward shrines.
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WHY DOES IT TAKE SO FUCKING LONG TO PATCH I HATE MY INTERNET
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>>162610443
>He doesn't know you have to vacate Monkey King's half of the map when he hits two stacks on someone
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>>162613756
it scales you dumbass

>>162613816
you just click the strine like you're auto attacking it
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>>162609062
You probably need glasses or an updated prescription, the text is too small for you
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so are loading screens gone?

what will I do with my loading screens now?
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>>162613726
Pulling is fine, stacking is what really bothers me.

Kill stacking and allow chain-pulling but make it hard, now you got some hard but rewarding mechanic that will separate you from the newfags.
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>>162608232
Are you guys getting level 20+ insanely quick now? I mean 25-30 min
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I am actually done with dota
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>>162613841
iktf
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>>162608439
I shoot him and get off because there is no difference between niggers and monkeys
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>>162613823
This.
>team takes the T2s before the others
>they are obviously stronger than the other team
Lets give them two structures to kill that give the team +300 gold each. Genius
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I have been fucking writing to disc for over an hour now, what the fuck is wrong and how do I fix it.
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>>162613885
You mean how it was like usually BITCH
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>client so buggy you cant un-enable autocast
Nice game dotards
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>>162613841
I remember going to playdota like 2-3 years ago and they would complain how there would be a small bug fix patch almost every day because a lot of those folks apparently had low data caps.

They must be furious now.
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>>162613885
Last game I was level 25 at 35 minutes as mid MK.
Game is fucking broken
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>SSD arrives tomorrow
Suffering
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Is the game faster or something? It feels like everything is sped up, except for cooldowns-
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>>162611116
Q is so fucking good that refresher is a viable late game buy
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>>162609062
do you have a big monitor? I'm getting headaches too
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>>162614006
They improved load times a fuckload this patch.
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>>162613940
NAH MAN LIKE THEY CAN TP TO THE SHRINES AND DEFEND DESPITE BEING ALREADY BEHIND AND THEREFORE UNABLE TO 5V5

The two forward shrines make no sense in their current form. Remove TPs to shrines, so Rosh advantage of T1s is more important for top lane and mid lanes, and remove the bounty.

Reduce shrines in base from 5 to 2 or 3. Why fucking FIVE GOD DAMN SHRINES
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new HUD is too damn small. I have to turn my head to look at the minimap it's so mushed in the corner now
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>>162614019
Yes. Gold and XP gain is much faster thanks to talents, multiple bounty runes, and value changes to he xp/gold tables. Games are much faster, with much more fighting
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Who thought Wukong's passive should be 80/120/160/200? And it gives bonus lifesteal up to 50 percent?

What the fuck?

Not to mention his first skill which is a guaranteed crit and stun that also procs on hit effects in a long range aoe.

It's simple. rescale his passive to 20/40/60/80 and give him a flat 20 percent life steal bonus.
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>>162613573
Shrines are fucking amazing. I just played SB and charged, went to shrine, charged, went to shrine, charged, went to base then waited the 300 seconds

>>162613953
contribution

>>162613993
I haven't played niggerking but I was pos 5 SB and level 25 & throned them at 35 minutes. I've played 2 games and had 3 half games (abandons) and all have me leveled incredibly high. I'm kind of glad, I just wonder how Pros will do with naga now.

I can now sit down at midnight and be done before 1


>>162614089
Try playing on 1440p
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There should be a legacy option for the old HUD.
I enjoyed the old one much better than the current meme minimalist Apple shit. Shit it looks like we back into the Alpha phase with all those icons except this time some Apple fags decided that it will be cool to butcher every visible information on the HUD.
>inb4 hurr durr you gotta adapt
nigga I'm trying to adapt but there is no defense to this shitty small HP/XP/mana bar. Also the HOLD ALT TO SEE SHIT meme
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watching here ftd vs cdec
>10 players + the caster dc at the sime time
>O.o
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>>162612796
>there are people RIGHT NOW who think Eidonigma is a bad build
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>>162614068
>>162613940
shrines do more than provide TP spots
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>>162614068
I cant get over this patch. Its like the devs threw random shit to the wall to see what sticks
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>>162614064
What about my qt loading screens?
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>>162613914
>>162613841
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>>162613993
You need the same ammount to get to level 25 this patch as you needed for 23 before.
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>>162614105
Icefrog always overshoots the numbers so he can rescale it downwards until it doesnt sound retarded.

its easier to do that than to make it too weak and then have to make it stronger
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>>162613741
NAME
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>>162614068
I don't know maybe for some hype ass team fight where 3 shrines get activated at the same time and killing the enemy team is impossible because 300hp heal a second.
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>>162614064
You don't even notice the short freeze when you get into the map anymore.
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>it's faster to use the shrines in your base to heal up then walk to the fountain
literally why?
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>>162614184
arangedcreep
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>Prowler Aura
>10% lifesteal
>10 (TEN) POINTS HP REGEN
TEN FUCKING POINTS OF REGEN
THIS IS UTTERLY FUCKING INSANE.
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>>162614153
Right they give 300 gold to the team thats ahead, free of charge
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i love how it crashes erryones dota and then its safe to leave

3 FUCKING TIMES I JUST WANT TO PLAY RANKED GOD DAMN IT
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>>162614178
In the old patch, it wouldnt take 35 minutes to get level 23 on mid. Thats more like 45-50 minutes
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>>162614184
oblivion loli
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>>162614153
>enemy team takes T2
>therefore they have map control and are probably ahead by networth and levels
>have 2 forward shrines that you WILL NEVER DEFEND, and give them +300 gold for being already ahead as a trophy
Literally anti-design
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>>162614229
Why are you playing ranked when a new hero just came out and retards are spamming it?
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>>162614207
This, plus the HotD is 19 hp per second
Wtf is dota
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>>162613741
>he edited out the feminine penis
An eternity of embarrassment!
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>>162614278
>take T2's
>map control

look at this 3-4k shitter
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>>162614207
>literally pipe of insight regen aura
waow...
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>>162612872
WUZ
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7.00 was a mistake
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is skadi AM good now
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>>162614217
>>162614278
you're missing the point I think, although we'll see how the frog fixes this.

I think the point is to give you a chance. If you're behind, there is literally not a better scenario to gank (shrine), fit under a shrine and get massive regen, or more farm mobility because they die so late.

The benefits outweigh the 300 gold.
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>>162614284
because 5k+ is fun af specially with new patch

no one picks monkey
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>tfw to intelligent to play the new patch
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>>162614229
>playing ranked on a fresh patch
What are fucking stupid?
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>>162614386
skadi deso manta linkes scepter bots2

trust me
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the only MK thing you can fall for is the tree one.
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>>162614363
BLACK
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>>162614207
>>162614303
>>162614337
>It stacks
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>>162614392
Then the enemy team walks past you and hits your fucking T3s while you defend fucking forward shrines

The gold bounty could be removed and shrines stay the same for instance
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why can't i see attributes
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>>162614419
I am 6k and ranked for the large part is still the same. Except supports are now more clueless. So everyone picks cores while I pick Visage and rape their boipussy
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>>162614272
Well, now you got more bounty runes, but I guess the main reason is that since everyone is higher level deads cause you to level up even faster.

I think the fact that the rewards/punishments for killing/dying got buffed is overlooked by most people.
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>>162612796
>mfw I'm Timber and I see him with this free gold.
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Visage is some bullshit.
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>>162614504
you're making up retarded scenarios.

who is at their shrine if the enemy is pushing highground?

literally no one.

the point, like i said, is to give you options and mobility.
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>>162614532
hold alt
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>Monkey king ability numbers way inflated
holy fuck
every game i've played, one of my team mates gets ass raped by the monkey of infinite right click damage
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Why the FUCK is it still called dota 2 beta
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Post Sheever feet
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>>162614653
it's a beta
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>>162614392
Any team with a brain takes out the shrine. Come on.
>kill enemy team, theyre on death CD for 30 seconds
>kill a T2 or two
>team wipe again because lol snowball
>kill another T2 or two
>kill shrines
Now youre team has +1000 gold each. Gg
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>>162614625
still can't seen them

why even hide them
or the k/d/a and cs
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>>162614649
TAKE THE BIG MONKEY DICK AND LIKE IT
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>play Timber
>somebody buys Atos
>become useless piece of shit

XD
>>
HotD is going to like drums were before the nerfs
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>>162614694
WHY ARE THEY HIDING THIS INFORMATION
THERE IS SHIT LOADS OF SPACE ON THE SCREEN NOW
WHY MINIMIZE IT FURTHER
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>>162614705
>he thinks Atos will stomp Timber dominating.
Hello 2k.
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>>162614705
Also applies to storm spirit.
What were they thinking?
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>Chen comes out of jungle at 25 minutes with two of the new fucking ancients
>Everyone on the enemy team has fucking heart regen now
Chen didn't even fight he just stood there. He knew what he did, and he was proud.
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>>162614582
>tfw he will get re-nerfed and it will kill him again
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>>162614705
Atos too strong
>>162614720
I like the new HOTD, but its simply too strong
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Can't play this on my laptop anymore. Frames drop a fuckton esp with a lot of skills getting what feels like new particle effects, and there's a lot more clutter on the map. That's fine though. I'm content with just watching as always.
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>>162614686
>Any team with a brain takes out the shrine. Come on.

no shit. thats not what im saying. shrines give you a fighting chance. that is all. they make the game more fair as long as they're up. and to be honest, for a team that just took all tier 1s and 2s in your scenario, 600gold is literally nothing
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>>162614694
an update bugged it

if you scroll over attack damage it tells you to hold alt to see them, and it worked in the test client and I think earlier today
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>>162614773
Hello Liege Lelouch.
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So who's going to be AtosGaming every match?
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>>162614653
It's still not done
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>tfw you're the carry now
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>>162614773
Seems like a damn good way to deal with him though.
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>>162614790
I want this like immediately
7.00b when?
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>IF hates jungle so much he literally ruins everything that related to jungling
t-thanks Abdul
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>>162614838
Ya boy on that Timber.

>>162614868
It's another buff to a an item that people will STILL forget about, Also its a projectile when you have euls and maybe blink AND you'll never buy it on a core, Support only.
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i fucking love this patch
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yeah there's no way this exp shit isn't getting nerfed everyone is level 20+ by 30 minutes
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>>162614705
>what is euls
>what is lotus orb

dear lord, now you actually need to have 1 defensive item to not be an unkillable monster
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>>162614961
Stop loving it right now.
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>>162614781
Had this happen earlier, Alch farmed Chen an aghs and Chen had ancient creeps so fucking early in the game.
>>
Feels like the text is not only smaller but blurrier too. At least chat text is.
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>>162614981
>someone buys a 2nd atos

What now??
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>>162614890
>substantial buffs by heroes for literal retards that ruin the meta by being too stupid to play anything else
>clearly we should overnerf a hero for gitguds
>>
Played about 6 games.
Yeah this isn't Dota.

Exp gain way way too high
Fuck Shrines
MK is fucking OP
>>
Is level 1 jungling still viable?
Or everyone has to lane now?
2 bounty runes plus more camps and the faster leveling make it easier to move around in jungle but the new neutral respawn is shit
>>
>>162615052
Don't fight 1v2 like a retard.
>>
anyone managed to a kill a monkey king yet?
>>
Will matchmaking try to put me with other beginners or is it pretty much going to immediately throw me into the deep end?
>>
holy shit pocket riki is real
>>
How do I out-Peru the Peruvians?

What techniques do they use to be so Peruvian???
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>>162615078
They did it to ES. They'll do it to Visage too when the leddit-train complains. Get your MMR now or forever hold your peace.
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>tfw increasing my inteligince by watching chink esports
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>everyone max level in 30 mins

lol i thought they werent going to port easy mode
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>>162615146
Play Timbersaw

Monkey King gets hit with a 4 second stun if the tree he's on is destroyed.
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>>162615146
Multiple times with Techies
>Monkey King jumps around in trees like a cunt
>Hits one mine because of the cooldown on his jump
>Hits another mine because he's a fucking dolt
Multiple times throughout multiple games.
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>>162615169
whats that
>>
>>162613571
>his suicide is too good
Not really it's actually shit

>600 magic damage for 50% HP AND having to jump in the middle of fucking everyone

It's horse shit. But that +200 range trait is sooooo fucking good
>>
>>162615116
I've been trying to figure this out myself. Junglers would need to rely on at least one of the bounty runes and something to be considered is that a support could come in and help take one of the ancient camps by the shrine while having the shrine active.
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>>162615086
>Nigger King is OP
He is literally the definition of a glass canon. HE hits like a truck, but if you catch him, he can't escape, and melts almost instantly. Especially to heros like Dazzle
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>le ppd is le janitor of le EG xDDD
Doubters bodied once again
>>
ME FACE WHEN TO SMaRT TO CLIME OUT OF 1K
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>>162615219
his aghs upgrade that allows him to hide inside a friendly hero for the duration of his ultimate
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>>162615234
The opinions of someone who hasn't actually tried the new Techies yet.
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>>162613339
>30 second ultimate cooldown on aghs
He definitely got more annoying, im some respects, but pounce doesn't disjoint anymore so I guess he might actually require being awake to play.
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>>162614461
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE

t. tubber
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>>162615234
There's also the silence which is 4 seconds long at level 1. Also his proximity mines do 750 damage and do almost 200 damage to structures.
>>
some motherfucker always pick it before me
this entire picking screen is confusing as fuck
is there like an order in unranked or everything is the same?
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>>162615234

After 15 minutes yeah it's shit, but it's absolute domination for those first 15 minutes, it fucking chunks peoples health.
You don't even fucking need to level proxis before you max jump + stasis trap, you just rake in gold.
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>>162613704
>nerf cleave
>+ 6
Push is back?
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>>162614865
Sauce nigga
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>>162609951
How does adding shit like wells encourage more fighting?
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>>162615116
I fucked with a jungle BS all game. I blocked two of his camps at the start, took his rune and killed him when he went into one of the hard camps. It feels like you're more vulnerable because of the blind juke spots and uneven high ground everywhere, you don't know when you're being watched. I love it, and I can see people quitting Dota over this.
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>>162615259
nvm, googled it
its some retarded r****t meme
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>>162615243
That is like saying Old Sniper wasn't broken because if you catch him, he can't escape and melts almost instantly. Are you fucking stupid?
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>there are five level 12 heroes at the 15 min mark
>there are five level 20 heroes at the 25 min mark
>everyone is max level by the 30-40 min mark
every single game
monkey king is also retarded, ignoring the 4 attack one hit entire teams bullshit he has an ultimate that lasts for fifteen seconds with 70 sec cd that makes it impossible to push or defend highground at any point in the game
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>>162615234
it has a low CD and gives silence, who cares if techies dies honestly you can just buy a forcestaff if you want to live
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Guys
Just pick Omniknight against Monkey
Use your ulti when he ultis
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So which OP hero should I play for this patch?
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>First time playing since 2 years ago
>Picks monkey king 16/7 and 13/9
>Lose cause nobody wants to play mid and team got 3 support type heroes.

Guess there's no point in playing this game. Time to uninstall

See ya /d2g/
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>>162615357
here you go
>>>/aco/1056635
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>>162615447
or just forcestaff him
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>>162615481
there are dozens, find them for yourself shitter
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>>162615172
I happen to be an expert in latinos because I'm mexican

Latinos get triggered really easily, peruvians even more but most latinos will lose their mind and throw the game if propperly triggered, if you find a latino that doesn't get easily triggered just treat him like a normal player.

Now, to trigger a latino learn there insults:

>Tranquilo peruano, cómete una paloma.
That means "chill out peruvian, eat a pidgeon", there is some meme about peruvians eating pidgeons, I don't know why it's a meme, it just is.

>Que asco ser cabinero.
That is a reference to not having a gaming computer on your own and having to go to a cyber-caffee, in latin-america there is no cyber-caffee culture and most stablishments of this kind buy cheap computers, resorting to this place is a sign of poverty.

>Ya vete a tu casa que te va a regañar tu mamá
It means "go home or your mom will be pissed", this one is pretty self explanatory.

>Chinga tu madre.
Literally "fuck your mother", is the most common mexican insult.

Also any reference to Donald Trump being right will probably work too.
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>>162615281
well guess what I just finished my first 7 game and it was techies and I have a shitton of techies games so FRICK OFF!!

>>162615309
Still doesn't cut it IMO. I agree that Proximity are super cuhrazy now though.

>>162615340
I didn't try this but it sounds interesting. But having a skill that does pretty much nothing for the rest of the game (not even with the 25 level trait) is soooo stupid. You can't even suicide properly off the shit because of the channeling time. Maybe if it was instant I would change my mind.
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>level 25 tree is useless no one will get there
>valve pls nerf exp gain, people get to level 20 by 25 minutes
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>pick monkey
>go ham in lane
>always guaranteed to bully 99% of the hero pool out of the lane right from level 1
>get free uncontested farm and XP while denying the enemy of all of it
>multiple level advantage
>multiple talent advantage
>just need wards so you don't get ganked, easy
>just need to build right so you dont explode like a pinata, simple
WHAT ARE THE DOWNSIDES
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boundless strike is utter bullshit
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>>162615568
reminder that most of /d2g/ is absolute shit
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>>162615385
Just pick venge lmao
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>>162615380
Monkey king doesn't have 1000+ auto attack range.
Old sniper wasn't stunned for four seconds if a tree he was near was cut down
Old sniper didn't have to worry about a rooting rod of Atos.
Old sniper didn't have an initiation skill.
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As if everything else wasn't enough pocket riki is real, we have reached unsustainable levels of reddit

When do we merge with /lolg/?
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>>162615554
>Frick off
wew i didn't know we had a master le troll here
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>>162615385
You could do cheeky stuff like vacuum him out of it, Gust, him out of it etc.

I think the most bullshit thing, besides the passive which is THE most bullshit, is his Q scaling crazy because its 200% then 300% that is based on his actual damage. I can't imagine stat items like 70 minutes in and you just crit someone for 300% at like 800 range or whatever it is
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>>162615504
I love you anon
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>neutral suicide nerfed hard
best change? best change
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>>162615180
ES was different because, unlike the micro heroes, his power didn't just scale with player skill; he was basically idiot proof because he could cast one spell for an easy kill. CM tier.
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>>162615568
it was the last hope against babbification
i hoped that at least this retardation would be prevented by slow xp rates
but no, everyone is fucking level 20 by 25 mintues
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monkey shit is retarded OP
too bad they're gonna nerf it like the hot shit he is

the hero interface and shop is too fucking small
give me a fucking scale slider and I'll be fine

I love the Bag pack long live the bag pack

levels come a kinda early, just curve up a bit the new experience levels

the patch is okay, I'm good
/blog
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>>162615568
the only thing fucked now with the exp gain is the respawn timer
if you go midas you have 70+second death timer at 20 minutes into the game
midas is actually game losing now i think
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>can't press button to learn skill
>have to press the big yellow ui element

why did they take this out
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>>162615638
Do you want me to name all the things MK can do that sniper can't? The point is both are glass cannon which was your main argument. Just because they are glass cannon doesn't mean they are suddenly not OP
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>>162615554

I had no issue suicide late game. the channel is only one second, and if the enemy team is focus firing a techies at that stage they have already sacrificed the whole team fight, plus once you blow your load as techies you have little else to do.
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>>162608437
"My opinion is fact, if yours isn't like mine, it shouldn't exist" - You
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newfag here, is there a way to have the hero's name instead of the player's name in chat? Trying to learn and it would help.
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>>162615643
>knowing about pocket riki before 7.00
hello r*****!
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>Tinker has spell vamp
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>>162615747
no, but you can set it so it replaces their player names over the hero

its in settings
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>>162615667
yeah it's LITERALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to highground against monkey faggot because he is just better ember with the retarded ulti
>just push him out of it
what if he presses r and then just walks to the opposite side of the circle, how the fuck are you supposed to kill him or stop him without running into the ultimate and instantly dying?
standing in the circle will kill you in a few seconds max
and not only does it make pushing highground impossible, as said, you can just throw it down on the enemy rax and they can't fucking do shit without getting massively out of position and losing everything
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>>162615716
crt + button
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>>162615747
im pretty sure there's a checkbox that does that in options
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>>162615716
Just hold CTRL and press the skill key.
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>>162615702
Wait, what bag pack?
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>>162608487
Thanks, but... It needs work.
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>>162615818
I'm pretty sure he means backpack
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>>162615784
Yeah I did that. Oh well it's not that big of a deal.
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>>162615801
>>162615816
thank
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>>162615716
Does no one use ctrl-[key]? Sing was complaining about the same thing.
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>>162615791
+200 flamebreak knockback AOe
+300 cast range blinding light
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>walk into secret shop
>try to buy energy booster
>shopkeeper starts attacking me
>the fuck is this?
>realize I am at the ancients
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>>162615717
A glass canon that dosen't even have to be in the same lane as the teamfight is OP, a glass canon taht has to expose himself to do any real damage isn't.

He does have some issues, but against an competent team and good comp such as Beastmaster and Timber he's suddenly completely fucking useless
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>>162615126
>It's a teamfight

What now?
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>>162615724
>plus once you blow your load as techies you have little else to do.
Bruh you can do soooo much damage off of spamming remotes from a safe distance and can keep throwing Proximities and Stasis like a mofo and dropping whatever item you built. There are also times where you KNOW you're gonna get fucked (caught off position for example) and the only choice is suicide but oh no guess what you have to have less than 50% of your health
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Nice patch, dotards.
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>>162615885
this fucked me up real hard
my mind is still not convinced that the secret shop is not there
>>
ALIVE GAME

SHIT PATCH
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>>162615885
>realize I am at the ancients

Why are you need energy booster!?
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>akimbo staffs
>double cast spells
>it's fucking OP
>rush aghs every game

Nerf when?
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>50 minute game
>literally everyone is level 25
this shit is insane desu
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>be timber
>throw my ult into trees
>Monkey sits in my ult because of his self-inflected stun
>he dies
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>>162615946
Thanks!
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>>162615891
>a glass canon taht has to expose himself to do any real damage isn't.
Yeah. His range on his first skill is totally exposing himself.
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>>162615693
>lose every fight
>enemy never stops gaining XP
>it's clearly because the game is casualified
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>>162615976
Literally FUN the hero

>every spell caster has good shit
>Lina is dogshit
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>Nerf monkey ult duration by half
>Bring down Jingu damage by 100 but give Boundless Strike 100 damage magic nuke
There I fixed him
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>>162615946
Aoba chan is worst girl
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>>162613093
and then your opponent has to push highground against shrines. The point?
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>>162616046
>implying i'm not the one that is level 20 at the 25 min mark every game
>implying this doesn't happen in even games too
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>>162616072
FUCKING FIGHT ME YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>shop doesn't remember to stay on the grid view between matches
>don't have the hero guide panel thing which is what i used to use to buy a lot of items from and have to go on a goose chase opening items that build into what i want to find the item
>dire secret shop has moved and i keep moving into the ancients, 9 times out of 10 it's the new ones and they murder me because they do more damage than a t4 tower for reasons
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>>162615619
>get tracked
>die
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>>162609472
oldfag here

starting playing in like 2005-2006, low 6.xx. played on and off throughout college, then pretty seriously for 2-3 years once i was out of college. all told about 7 years of dota 1? I got pretty fucking good at the game, then quit when dota 2 came out.

installed dota2 about ... almost 2 years ago. so took a 3 year break with zero dota. i sucked massively and lost most of my mechanical skill. played casually and logged almost 2k hours, relearned a lot of shit and got decent again, but not nearly close to my peak in dota 1.

i honestly don't know what the point of this blog post is but the new patch seems kinda bad. but i've barely touched it. maybe ill play a few games on some comort heroes and then judge. but yeah, idk what the fuck icefrog is snorting.
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Am I getting lower FPS than I remember having because of the patch or because I'm on Linux at the moment?
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>Valve overhaul game
>leave Overthrow and 10v10 unpatched
>AD is still not a custom game and hasn't had a balance change in ages

They should pass it onto someone who will update them, even if its just for parity.
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>>162616127
valve broke the game
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>>162614653
At 10.00 it stops being a beta
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>>162616127
>playing videogames on GNU/Linux
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>>162616127
a lot of people are reporting fps issues i'd wait for a patch if it's really bad
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>>162615990
Because having one skill (which isnt even GOOD unless you have the bonus damage) wih range means he never has to go in and rightclick
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BH's actually so good in this patch right now, 15% bonus xp at level 10 and bounty runes for days to get you to 6/12/18 faster

also this game wasn't even kinda a fair test but bh might actually transition into a semi carry again, deso might not actually be bad after gg boots
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>>162616127

I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
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I have an important question.

How is Kunkka?
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>>162615146
I absolutely finessed one as lmao6tree earlier
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>>162616127
MEMORY LEAKS

LEAKS
E
A
K
S
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Reminder Purge spend 9 (NINE) hours today """"analyzing"""" the patch
And by analyzing I mean applying needless and outright wrong math, bad assumptions, bad predictions, and pointless theorycrafting when he could just fire up the test client and try things out to find out if they worked or not
Nine
Hours
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>>162616305
is my nigga furion good for something other than relentless intentionally feeding and afk cliff jungling now?
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>>162615619
The downside is you're not playing your waifu.
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>>162615976
How reliable is Skywrath's free random orbital space laser when equipped with aghs?
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>>162616265
He is already sitting at nearly 50% WR despite it being hours when he first got released, no one has EVER played it, everyone is playing him. He will easily hit high 50% once the novelty stops and more people gitgud
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well, it's been fun.
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>>162612892
>get refresher aghs, have an entiry army of treants
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>>162616280
Fine
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>>162616279
Is this copypaste? Because this isn't the most impactful place to pour your energy to teach people about the definition of linux
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>>162616429
Skywrath's ultimate isn't reliable even when manually casted, is the other three abilities that you have to look out for.
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>>162616385
>9 (NINE) hours today
>only for 7.00b to come out in a couple of days
now that is true autism
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Is he dare I say it...BACK?
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>make the crit on boundless strike scale with level instead of just being a one point wonder
>reduce the range on boundless strike, or make it have a projectile
>reduce the damage on jingu mastery to like 40/80/120/160
>remove the cast range on wukong's command, make it centered around the hero instead
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>>162616457
how long are the queues in HoN matchmaking
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>tfw just woke up to find out that PPD now owns EG
Holy shit, he wasn't kidding in True Sight.
Who owns Alliance?
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>>162616238
Honestly it runs better than I thought it would, just can't get a consistent 60 FPS at absolute max settings (have to turn some stuff off but that may be because of the patch apparently)
>>
all the xp, gold, and respawn timer talents should be removed
>>
I must say, I've never expected to see the day where Dominator would be a support item.
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>>162615990
Silencer, Riki, Disruptor, and silencing heros. Physical tanks and Armor collectors as his Q is physical damage.
Clinkz, Slark, Bounty Hunter can all chase him and shut him down, Bloodseeker can get truesight, any stuns like Mirana's Arrow.

>>162616119
Omni is still a wincond, and Dazzle is a reliable mid now.
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>>162616519

idk dude i'm installing it right now.

4k mmr in dota, should be fun to start out fresh and figure things out. I'm pretty excited.
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>>162616457
congrats
>>>/vg/hong
oh wait
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>>162616529
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>queue up for a ranked game of dota 2
>walk to contest top rune
>get lost on the way
>literally where the fuck am i
>finally get there
>no rune in sight
>walk into this huge cave in the middle of the river
>for some reason roshan is there and kills me
>35 sec respawn timer on lvl 1
>tp mid and feed couriers a couple of times then abandon

dotards?
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>>162616512
Yes, Techies ganks seem legit and he is a cool type of roamer. He plants mines, can nuke a whole creep wave at level 7
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>My mmr farming heroes got buffed.
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>>162616592
queues are literally 20+ minutes for a normal game
bots take up to an hour
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>>162616630
t: 3,5k
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>>162609472

Not long after Icefaggot took over. So 05-06 range, late high school, so easily a decade with some change.

This was too much change too fast. Sure go back and look at the early 6.00's and there will be fucking major changes, but for a game that was stable and only got some terrain changes 6~ months ago, we just didn't need it yet. I'd rather play some legacy custom games than have this shoved in my face.
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>>162616479
nigga do you ever go anywhere other than /vg/?
It's /g/ pasta you uneducated shit
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anyone tried the -vulkan command? any better or worse?
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>>162616617
Err, how did you die from a rosh at level 1? You fool!
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>>162616385
The idiot spent almost one hour trying to figure out if the physics for the black hole spiral pull were correct or if this would just pull mass in a straight line or some shit.

He did it all for the views, nothing more nothing less.

It's free money out of you retards.
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>>162616617
>fresh patch
>where the game randomly crashes and people randomly can't get back in
>and there's fresh patch hysteria of trying to find the new OP mmr gridning heros
>queueing for ranked
you are a special kind of retard
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>>162616617
are you me
>>
im getting a 97 MB update anyone know what it is?
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>>162616661
New to this shit
what does 3,5k represent? and mmr?
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>>162616682
far better
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>>162616676
Noo, I don't actually, sorry for my IGNORANCE.
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>>162616724
The old UI.
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>>162616682
I can't even tell if it's on or not.
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>>162616724
i know!
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>>162610091

Multiple heroes now have additional attack range perks. The days of everyone being a sniper and being all push mechanics is upon us.

The patch seems designed for faster games 30-40min all 6 slotted and level 25, and not for encouraging 60-70 minute games where the entire team gets 25 around the 60min mark.

Why do they want it to be faster?
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>>162616708
Right? I see Arteezy or Bulldog stretching out their downtime after they're done with games for the day just for people to squeeze in their donations.
I thought you were woke, d2g
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>>162616661
>Visage isn't stable 5k-6k mmr climbing hero
>>
>there are talents that don't actually work
Jesus
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>>162616758
>>162616682
oh and make sure you watch a game in the watch tab first

it takes a while for vulkan to build libraries the first time you run it. after like 5mins restart dota and play a game
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>>162616682
screen flickering everywhere
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>>162616767
>>162616780
cheeky little fucks
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>almost instant queue
>tfw finally ALIVE GAME again
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>ppd is now arteezy's literal boss
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HOW IS THIS ALLOWED????
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>>162616385
>Made hundreds of dollars doing it
>Goes to every major event as a panelist/analyzer

Why are you talking?
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>>162616790
I think it will get changed, its kind of a snowball clusterfuck really right now.

Maybe they wanted talents, and then after testing needed heroes to actually hit 25. Then supports to actually hit 25. In a 60 minute game 6.88 supports still weren't 25 without a 20minute midas or last man standing scenarios in fights
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>>162616280
I don't like what they did to cleave, the range feels way shorter than what it was.
>>
Rollback confirmed

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3xd58w/6.88_dota_rollback
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>>162616837
update your drivers I believe that was fixed in the latest driver
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>>162616708
>>162616807
Don't act like you guys wouldn't do it too
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>>162616896
nice
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>>162616883
Buy the Arcana!

Oh and the Terrain!

OH and also the Announcer pack!
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>>162616529
>PPD own EG

S-source?
How do you go about and do shit liek this?
His TI winning money?
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>>162616529
Loda Akke Bulldog and EGM
>>
ITS HAPPENING
7.00B


http://store.steampowered.com/news/8116/
http://store.steampowered.com/news/8116/

FASTEST PATCH OF ALL TIME????


>Dota 2 Update - December 12, 2016
>7.00b:
>* Boundless Strike critical strike from 200% to 175%
>* Tree Dance cast range from 1000 to 400/600/800/1000
>* Primal Spring damage from 100/180/260/340 to 75/150/225/300
>* Primal Spring slow from 40/50/60/70% to 20/30/40/50%
>* Jinju Mastery bonus damage from 80/120/160/200 to 40/80/120/160
>* Jinju Mastery lifesteal from 20/30/40/50% to 25%
>* Jinju Mastery is now a magic damage instance and will not critically strike with Boundless Strike
>* Jinju Mastery now has a charge duration of 30 seconds on Monkey King
>* Mischief no longer fools towers, the fountain or roshan.
>* Mischief courier speed from 350 to 200
>* Wukong's Command soldier damage from 100% of Monkey King's attacks to 75%
>* Wukong's Command soldiers now share cooldowns with item based abilities like Basher with Monkey King
>* Wukong's Command mana cost from 100 to 175/200/225
>* Wukong's Command duration from 13/14/15 to 7/9/11
>* Nature's Guise stun duration from 1/1.4/1.8/2.2 to 0.4/0.9/1.2/1.5
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>>162616935
you can bu ya lot of shares with 2 million dollars
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>>162616883
wtf wk why did you miss that last hit
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>>162616850
Or your skill level is so low that the amount of players you can be matched with is higher
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>>162616852
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>>162616883
To make people buy the arcana duh
He is getting nerfed in the later patches
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>>162616978
>8116
somebody already did this today
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fucking bot matches

bots keep good , expensive items like blinks in backpack and shit like iron branch in inventory
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Reminder that a literal Aussie won a Major before Arteezy.
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>>162616978
Not even close, back in WC we had up to three or four patches in less than 24 hours.
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>>162616978
609 of /d2g/
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Is this pile of casual shit 7.00 patch even worth downloading? Why did they destroy something so beautiful?
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>>162616909
I absolutely would. I'd even do donation goal things just for hardware and shit like Sing did if I were in their position.
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>>162616978
EIGHT
ONE
ONE
SIX
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the new terrain looks fucking good
i hate all the other terrains

now 20 bucks good though
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Living in Brazil sucks, man.
Long ass queues and apparently nobody plays past midnight, which is when I most want to
REEEEEEEE
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>>162616883
doesn't WK have like 2 base armor?
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Holy fuck loves i dont think i can get used to this shit UI. Its just awful
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>>162617089
Chupa-me.
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>>162610029

>W: Corpse Explosion

Was removed from pitlord cause it was just bad and too situational.

Though the rest of that heroes looks like it was built around that particular issue. I'd probably have liked to see it in action, but it would still have been reliant on fighting near creeps, having NP etc to create creeps.
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>yfw the wiki is updated faster and more efficiently than the official Dota website
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>>162616671
same situation and feels here bro
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Are +3 refraction charges worth it over 30 seconds respwan time? I feel like getting faster respawn is always better since everyone is just fighting now.
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I just played a game where someone still managed to miss torrent with the fuckhueg torrent talent
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What if you could bribe shopkeepers to give vision?
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tfw no Lina Inverse hero
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>>162617254
Depends on if the enemy team has DOT or burst
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>>162617254
over 30 seconds? no
if it was like 50 seconds at level 25 then sure.
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>these load times

I don't remember purchasing an SSD, dotards.
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>game keep crashing
wew
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>>162617265
Fucking HOW DO YOU MISS A TORRENT WITH 425 AOE AND WHEN ATOS IS A THING
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>>162616978
how to turn a hero from hot meme into stale meme in one patch
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>>162617327
The game secretly loads during the pick/strategy phase.
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>>162617337
im glad im not the only one. After i finished a game dota just close and it has happened 2 times already since patch
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>>162617297
Sounds interesting, but wouldn't a ward be cheaper?
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>>162617327
only good change
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>wake up
>still no Purge video

/purgegamers/ where we at
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>>162617327
It loads everything in the picking stage, and strategy
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>>162617437
Patch analysis videos are on twitch
>>
The pick phase starts before you load into the game

Stealing stuff from LoL again, Valve-kun
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>>162608815
you were free for a whole 2 years....why, why come back? you fool...
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>>162617437
Did you sleep like twelve hours?
Purge stream duration was like 9 hours dude.
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>>162617431
>settings stay on the map

I mostly like the HUD, just not the information it hides and the placement of shit.
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>>162617327
Valve finally made use of the Source 2 ability to parallel process, i.e. load shit in the pick phase.
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>>162617536
>Did you sleep like twelve hours?
I did actually ty senpaitachi
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>>162617513
Actually you load assets in the middle of the pick phase, in LoL you pick and then loads every asset.
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DOTARDS??????????????
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Shrines need to be nerfed or removed, way too much sustain makes people keep fighting like retards
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>tfw Spectre nerfed again
what do I build on her to not be useless lads
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>>162617513
Lol doesn't load with the pick phase. People still disconnect on loading screens in Lol - and their reconnect feature is fucking awful compared to Dota so good luck trying to get back in.
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this gane is actually dogshit now
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>>162617615
damn i really wished that worked
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>they took out level up hotkey

hahaha FUCKING WHY
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What was your favorite cancer hero era?

The time when Lycan was unstoppable? The time when Morphling was a literally unkillable shotgun? Cancer Lancer?
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did they fix this
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>>162617615
It's not like you could reliably pull it off anyways
One of the dumbest talents desu
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>>162617615
it's a beta
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>>162617676
Cancer Lancer.
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>>162617615
Skill can only hit target once. Otherwise it'd be a shotgun if you stood next to an enemy.

>>162617674
Ctrl+Key, it's bugged I think? Ctrl is default right?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1PSRW9Wztw

Has he lost his mind?
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>>162617615
This is a good thing. If you could get hit by multiple arrows then Mirana could just get point blank and make you explode with 960 damage.
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>>162617674
Hold Ctrl + key you retard.
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>>162617689
Well its an aura, you can't kill an aura
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>>162617674
so that you would start using ctrl + ability hotkey like a big girl you qt
>>
>>162617676
Lycan+ns right now
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>>162617695
It's amazing for scouting
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>no Graves

Dotards?
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>>162617771
>>162617749

>I have to move my pinkie instead of my middle finger to level up now

Fuck you guys, it takes too fucking long now
>>
>LoL UI
>HoN everything
>HotS skill tree
icefrog u da best
>>
>>162617676
Lycan by far, he was secretly cancer since WC3 days, most cancer heroes simply won the game, but not lycan, he took the other nine players hostages and made their life misserable.

Getting carried by a Morph of a Lancer was fun, getting carried by lycan was the oposite of fun.
>>
>>162617051

Those fucking days where people would be adamant about playing the old patch/letter because BUGS and imba broken messes. I want that back. Can we get a 'stable' cue and 'bleeding edge beta test bed' cue?
>>
>>162617804
>le action hero
LoL designs fucking suck balls
>>
>>162617676
Leshrac, because I had a 75% winrate as support before that patch so I would just go mid and dominate because I actually knew how to last hit and use his cast animations well.
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>>162617857
>LoL designs suck but some midget with a gun who acts like Santa Claus is better

Really?
>>
6.6GB download? The fuck?
>>
That attack speed upgrade for illusions is actually really damn good.
Terroblade gets a moonshard and he can blow up buildings even faster.
Armulet is also better on illusion heroes because of this. You have to be more careful in general, but illusions are still viable at least.
>>
>>162617925
Is this a metaphor for inner city crime?
>>
>>162617925
wow a black guy with guns where'd they get the inspiration for that one
what's his backstory? is he a super 1337 assassain that has a crush on one of the cute lolis and doesn't have a bedtime?
>>
>>162617925
IS that Antimage or Chen?
>>
How do I view my attribute? Holding alt doesn't show shit or I am just blind?
>>
>>162617943
yea there was a new patch
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>tfw the patch is not getting installed as fast as it could because i'm limited by my HDD's write speed
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>>162616273
>support item bounty
>in 7.00
disgusting, absolutely disgusting
The glory days are back, dont be a bitch
>>
>>162618045

but 6.6 gig? Fucking really, valve?
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>literally copying League of Legends
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>>162617804
>gun appears to use some sort of 40mm grenade revolver chamber
>the rounds are right up against the flat surface of a cannon that is much too large for them while also blocking their ability to actually fire

We have a new champion for mot autistic gun design in a videogame.
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>>162617943
it's a big patch
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How were Bane, SD, and Puck hit by the patch? They're my favorite little guys.
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Why the everloving fuck have they added in this talent bullshit?
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>>162617925
Even as a weeaboo I think LoL aestetics are fucking stupid.
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>>162618154
+stats were lame unless you were Juggernaut or AM
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>>162618187
>>162618187
>>162618187
>>162618187
new
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>tfw i miss HoN's monkey king
I remember i had the duck skin too and owned people with amasing combos. Those were the days now i have to play with this shitty UI and the new changes from HotS and lol
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>>162618076
...who cares? it's nothing in 2016
>>
>>162617925
lol simply takes him too seriously and it just becomes crappy
>>
>>162618120

For you
>>
>>162618154
Give the game more variety and deeper strategy than just free circlets for 10 levels
>>
>>162618089
NMH is fucking god tier though
>>
>>162618124
at level 25:
illusory orb moves really fast
you can make enfeeble -240 damage OR brainsap deals an extra 200 damage
demonic purge deals an extra 400 damage or -1s cooldown on shadow poison
atos is no longer a meme
>>
What did icefrog mean by this?
>>
Is there a way to get 6.88 and play it as a custom map? It's all I fucking want now.
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>>162618328
Atos buff made me happy. It's one of my favorite items but with the constantly changing active I never know how to feel anymore.

Problem is, how often am I really going to get them to 25? I mean I actually enjoy the long game but I still take support as SD and Bane. Puck maybe. I think most of my games end around level 20. I'm not a big fan of playing the solo farm carry game.
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>>162618393
no play, dota 1
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>>162618482
levels scale differently now
>>
So, instead of getting stats you get this talent crap. What about the damage, regen, armour you'd get from that? That built into the effectiveness of some items and spells.
>>
>>162618393
download the workshop tools dlc and load in hammer I think? should be an old dota map file
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>>162618561
I thought you just got to 10 a bit faster. 10 is already pretty quick, it's post 16ish that gets slower for support.
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>>162618004
Pretty much.

>Like the twin relic weapons they wielded, Lucian and his wife Senna were carved from the same stone. Together they battled evil in Runeterra for years, bringing light to darkness and purging those taken by corruption.

>They were beacons of righteousness: Senna's dedication to their cause never faltered, while Lucian's kindness and warmth touched the hearts of the many lives they saved. Two parts of one whole, they were devoted and inseparable.

>When the spectral denizens of that accursed place began to manifest across Runeterra, Lucian and Senna hunted them down wherever they appeared. It was grim work, but the fearless pair prevailed until one tragic encounter with the soul-collector Thresh.

>Lucian and Senna had faced such nightmarish undead before, but never one so deviously clever and cruel. As the terrible battle unfolded, Thresh sprung an unexpected ploy. To Lucian's horror, the creature tricked Senna and ensnared her soul, trapping her in Dark Passage.png a spectral prison.

>Though the Warden had taken half of Lucian's heart, he had also created the Shadow Isles' most dangerous foe. Lucian became a man of dark Relentless Pursuit.png determination, one who would stop at nothing to purge the undead from the face of Runeterra. In honor of Senna's memory, he took up her fallen weapon and vowed to see their mission through to the end.

>Now wielding both relic weapons, Lucian fights to slay the undead and The Culling cleanse the souls of the Shadow Isles. He knows that Senna's soul is lost, but never loses hope that one day he will bring her peace.

>"She was everything to me... but they took her. And with her, they took my kindness and my mercy. That was their mistake. Because now, all I've got left is a cold heart. They thrive on doubt, they feast on fear. These wretched abominations blight this world, and every last one of them will perish. By my hand."
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>>162614540
dotabuff please? i wanna see your replays and learn
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Someone remind me how many majors arteezy has won, and how many big daddy has
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>>162618087
Yeah sure kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk0O-hce7NM
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CAN WE STILL WATCH THE 6.88 REPLAY?
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>>162610069
>Letting a carry hit you 4 times
?!?!?!?
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