>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/
>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
>>162543215
So where is the patch?
>>162547735
5 hours
What kind of LoL is this?
>>162551640
HMH? This is Dota, not LoL!
So when are we gonna use this thread? I mean we've reached post limit in the others guys, get a move on.
I can't wait to play omni carry every single game
>>162550536
wtf im a europoor ill be sleeping then and then i need to work to be slightly less europoor and then i need to walk an hour home then i can play it only then this is unfair ;_;
>>162571748
Check the post time you mongoloid
>>162571574
not with those nerfs you dont
>>162571889
yah ill still be sleeping tho
i go to sleep in an hour ;_;
>be spiritbreaker
>hit level 25
>1200 charge speed
>tfw impossible to hit level 25 as sb
>>162571889
So where is the patch?
>>162574942
in ur bum lol
XD
PPD owns EG
THIS TREE IS CUTE
CUTE
how r u guys enjoying the healing fountains?
i think theyre fucking terrible. they worked in hots because towers have limited ammo and siege heroes and objectives kill them so fast.
in this they just make every game take longer
"If these are too loose for you, then you don't get to fuck me! I'll have you drinking out of them once a real man is done with them."
>>162583709
Ok.
>>162583709
Who is that abomination? Why would I want to fuck it?
>>162583709
deny yourself
>League HUD
>League map symmetry
>League support scaling
>HOTS talent tree
>Reddit balance
>Crysis 1 max settings system requirements
>Valve thinks this will drive up profit
rmyt
>>162584507
nice bait, i rate it 9/10
>>162584507
>Crysis 1 max settings system requirements
Getting rid of the poor peruvians isn't a bad thing mate
Purge confirmed +6 treants is shit
patch will be live by the time i return to my computer
eta 10-30 min
no problem d2g
>>162584724
How about people who only play Dota so they play it on their cheap laptops instead of spending a thousand dollars on a new PC?
>+6 treants
what did icefrog mean by this?
>>162584747
>not enough trees
based Purge exposing AB's blatant lies
>Purge gets to +6 treants
>The only thing he's worried about is whether or not you can actually get 11 treants
>Not the fact that by the time you're level 25 they die in 1 second
lol.
>>162584795
Then that's too bad. Don't need people lagging in teamfights anyway
>>162584863
what does that matter? its about early game push increase
is the patch live yet
>>162585446
>early game
>lvl 25
>>162585606
late game is early game now. expect avg 70 min games
DOTA 2 COORDINATOR
CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED
ALERT ALERT
CURRENTLY BEING UPDATED
>>162585783
ALERT
PANIC MODE ACTIVATED
>>162586152
>>162584770
i've returned, expect patch in mere moments
any update on the situation dotards?
Ohhhhhhh, it's happening
>>162572134
>omni
>nerfs
He got buffed to fuck.
You lose 0/20/40/60 heal in exchange for using less mana. Longer cooldowns at levels 1 and 2 for the heal and repel is pretty forgettable level 1, but it's no longer dispellable so it's in essence a 7 second bkb.
This means if a unit is both repeled and guardian angel'd they are invulnerable except to bkb piercing pure damage. Which is limited to rupture, sunstrike, Lina Aghs and Pudge hook.
And at level 25 your purification goes from a MOAB to a tactical fucking nuke, 500 pure damage + spell scaling, whoah momma.
With everyone having less hp on average (unless they take all their +hp talents which means they're doing less damage) Purification goes to one of the strongest non ultimate spells in game. It's definitely top 5 if you take the bonus damage perk.
Only a handful of spells actually do more damage and it's the strongest single target heal in the game. Only Chen's heal is stronger, being a teamwide 400 strength heal.
Also on that note, Tiny is now the strongest nuker in the game if he takes the +200 avalanche damage talent. On a tossed target that's an extra 400 damage, so avalanche does 500 damage to all unit, 1000 damage to the poor motherfucker who got tossed, and then anyone at the impact takes another 500 Toss damage. 540 with Aghs.
1540 damage to a single target, 1140 damage to everyone in the 300 aoe.
Lion BTFO
>Level 25: +100 Battle Hunger DPS
Jesus. I guess it's ok to level it past one now.
PATCH
PATCH IS LIVE BOIS WE READY FOR HEROES OF THE DOTA LEAGUE
>6.6gb
WAT
DE
FUCKL
>6.6gb
holy fuck
>>162589035
>>162588747
>>162588571
6.89 --> 7.00
We 11 patch size big boys.
>>162589223
mfw i had to uninstall the test client to fucking download it
Icetoad can we please get a condensing update?
monkey king is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
MONKEY KING BUILDS GUYS
EXECUTION IS FINE BUT IM LOST ON WHAT TO BUILD, BEEN GOING ROA PHASE ECHO DESO SITUATIONALS BUT IDK DONT FEEL LIKE I DO ENOUGH DAMAGE (LOL).
>>162591061
which lane are you playing ? i'm mostly going mid with him.
How do I build Axe for jungle? Starting items?
OH MY GOD FUCK MONKEY KING IS STUPIDLY STRONG
6GB update and there isnt an option to bind the level up button the way you want it, lovin it
Monkey king is literally riven with a tail. Cancer spammer inbound.
my fps are shit
which is strange because the test client did not have this issue
u cant win vs veno now
>>162598731
I don't know what that's supposed to mean but they should probably tone down the jingu damage
>mfw 3 arrows
>Just beat misery
I love this patch already!
D2g patch launch shit posting is actually the worst shitposting desu
when is epsorts, the supreior d2g posting, back on?
REVERT TO 6.7x OR THE DUMB FROG GETS IT
can PPD make EG great again as CEO?
What's everyone's first impressions so far? I honest to god love this patch. The new ui is a bit confusing tho
1st President Dager
JINGU BELLS
JINGU BELLS
JINGU ALL THE WAY
the changes themselves are not nearly as painful as 4chan being reddit central too
it hurts my soul deep inside
>>162599717
>tangential nationalismposting is better than gameposting
literally fuck yourself and post pics qt :3
>6.88
>dota is the most balanced it has ever been
>7.00
>icefrog changes literally everything about the game for no reason
can someone please explain this to me?
>>162599759
Need some more tinkering with the UI but otherwise the map is so confusing again.
you can tell if an enemy is an illusion because their minimap arrow is white
>Ready to launch in approximately: 0 seconds
GAME IS STUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Am I the only one really titled by the jungle spawn every other two minute change?
There are never creeps in the jungle anymore and stacking / farming patterns are just so confusing now.
>>162599801
shhhhh buy hats
>>162599801
APOLOGIZE
>What should have happened
Patch notes are released and update hits the testing client on the 5th
A whole week of rigorous bug fixing goes on, with reddit testing it and point out flawsFOR FREEso that valve can fix it with ample time
>What happened
Hit the testing client on the 11th
Valve scrambling to fix everything before the 12th
Update rushed out literally a half hour before the work day ended
BUGGY UNPLAYABLE MESS HOLY SHIT
>>162599801
>6.88
>balanced
lel, nice try plebbit
>40 fucking minute queue
I just want to play one fucking game of best mode but nobody appreciates the depth, complexity, and FUN of best game mode, while Valve still doesn't give a fuck about the greatest thing they've added to the game since Bounty runes
I'm done. Good night
who cares fuck this game
>>162599717
its bad because the game is actually ruined this time
>>162599801
It was stale as fuck
>ever been
Nah, just because alot of heroes were picked 1-3 times at TI6 doesn't mean shit. The entire offlane concept was killed
>>162599801
I guess it's because IceFrog never lets people fully figure out how the game works before he changes it again.
>tfw too intelligent not to skill +6 Treants at lvl 25
>>162599801Balanced is boring, Icefrog wants to work with more tools
>monkey king hero
>mkb isnt a core item
UHMMM
TURDS?
>>162599945
Thanks anon
Enjoying the new patch /d2g/?
So, uh guys. Are loading screens just pointless now? I load into the pick screen immediately and then the game loads immediately. More importantly.
If valve had this technology from the start WHY THE FUCK DID THEY WAIT SO LONG TO PUT IT IN?
>>162599801
NEVER
BET
AGAINST
THE
FROG
>>162599946
>literally posts every patch
"b-b-but it r-really happened this time!!!"
>>162599801
the reaction d2g is having now is literally almost identical to the reaction it had when 6.88 was released.
>>162599801
>dota is the most balanced it has ever been
smelly, dumb redditor scum
>>162599801
it was fucking b o o o ri ng
>>162599916
AD needs to switch to a custom game, no one plays it and Valve also abandoned the idea of balancing it.
>Illusions give XP and Bounty
LMAO SDFDFS
>>162599994
But it basically is.
It's a perfectly valid option in most games and scales with all of his abilities.
>>162600017
>>162599991
>Balanced is boring
Literally the best game of dota in its history was 2 days ago
>>162599994
It is already inbuilt in his abilities
>>162600017
YES FUCK YOU I HAD MY LIFE BACK ON TRACK
OH BOY
how can anyone unironically defend this
>>162600054
this isnt a normal patch, this is dota 3: league of dota
>>162600164
Easily
It's fun
>my boy visage gets buffed to shit
>first game with him in 7.00
i'm no longer mad at arc warden being gutted
>>162600054
no it isnt, people were bitching about 6.88 because icefrog barely changed anything. people are mad now because it isnt even the same game anymore. literally how new are you?
Is there any way to disable the Street Fighter intro
>>162600136
>best game of dota in its history was 2 days ago
dude please stop my sides hurt
>UI panels and icons need to be bigger or scalable
>Only one Bounty Rune should spawn randomly for both teams
>Power Up Rune and Bounty Rune should spawn at alternate times
>Killed by panel needs to go on the left
>Monkey King needs to be nerfed
>Talents need to be not so ridiculous or cheesy
>"Team vs. Team" match into needs to be less blurry and aliased
What other fixes do we need guys?
>100 fps on a i5 2500k and a 290x
How are your computers worse than mine?
>>162600161
get fucked poorfag
>>162600164
I like it.
>>162600136
>best game of dota
Nah, it was great but the best games have always been at TIs
>>162574716
I mean that's the fucking point. All the heroes that will normally not reach high levels have the good talents in the high level talents, since its a reward to scale them better into the 1 hour game, if they make it there
>>162600136
>best game of dota in its history
This game is literally unplayable.
For one is always fight time, but I mean I literally get halting frame drops. I have a Monkey King and Bristle in game.
For some reason the game could handle particle effects and flying shit everywhere yesterday, but now this is literally freezing my game whenever Bristleback starts spewing quills.
From 60fps to 0.6, fucking amazing.
Also when I try to use quelling blade on a ward quelling blade goes on cooldown and the ward doesn't leave.
>>162600017
at the very least i wont be wasting so much time on this game anymore every day. i guess i should be thankful for getting my life back
2nd game, got Monkey King
Never played test client, went in blind. Played like shit, but he's broken as fuck. 3 hit to q is killed axe from half health. Tree jump has WAY too much mobility.
Expecting a nerf to his e and possibly q. stun and crit, paired with bonus damage is just too powerful, especially mid-game.
>>162600310
Ok so the combo is
Tree perch > charge slow > 4 hits > Boundless strike the first bonus damage right?
Cant even properly think because of this talent bullshit
>slark untouched
bravo valve
>everyone is level 25 now
>>162600427
The stun is a bit much. It's a faster, more damaging Fissure
>>162600231
>people are mad now because it isnt even the same game anymore
which is literally what people absolutely say they want out of patches
FINAL DESTINATION EDITION(Its 5 in the morning here, jesus)
POST YOUR MAIN CHARACTER THEME
NIGHT STALKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zcBg7Ti-WQ
>>162600308
still getting 140 FPS
for real, the frosty amphibious fucked up this time, especially with hud andthe fucking chat
>New dota hero
>Oh I hope they do something like an elemental or something from the void-
>It's a Harambe reference
Dicks out skasdhjsdfjhaskdjhaskldjhasdjhasjakld
so fucking funny xd
>>162600427
His damage is too fucking good
>level 1 Jingu Mastery whatever it's called
>>>4 hits for 80 damage
>>>works on his AoE crit stun
>level 4 Refraction only gives 80 damage
>level 4 Metamorph gives 80 damage
Like how the fuck is this balanced? AND IT FUCKING CRITS
At level 2, Crit for over 200 easily, then have 130 damage hits for 3 hits. What the fuck?
And his leap slam is literally better than Brewmaster outside out having a long CD in every fucking way.
>>162600630
>New dota hero
>that was literally announced 6 months ago
>Leave it to me; lots and lots of me
I love this guy. He talks so much.
This fucking UI is horrendous and this map design is a cluster fuck
this is so goddamn bad
>>162600515
2 hours is third world tier internet
and i say this as a third worlder
>>162600604
The hud looks like it's from a really shitty indie game.
monkey king is gay, right?
just listen to his voice
>>162600543
Pounce doesn't disjoint anymore afaik
>>162600693
It's almost objectivity better than the old Ui if they add the stats
you are a minority if you think otherwise
Today I was reminded how awful at dota I am.
>>162600630
you sound absolutely retarded and you have to go back, stop trying to fit in stupid nigger and whine about something that doesn't make you sound like a non-autist retard
>>162600554
that is quite literally not what people say, literally everyone wants 4 balance changes: illusion nerf, slark nerf, iron talon nerf, an drow nerfs. what we got was LITERALLY every single aspect about the game changed
>>162600729
nope americacentury link
>>162600632
>>162600427
Q's crit needs to drop, 100% then 200% wit the talent seems fine
Jingu buff needs to drop off on enemies after 5 seconds of not hititng them. Buff on MK needs to drop off after like 7 seconds, storing them for later is FUCKING STUPID
Otherwise he seems fine. Maybe change tree walk so the further he jumps the longer the cooldown is, but if he does alot of short hops its still the same 1.4. So short jumps is 1.4, and long jumps is 5 cooldown and it scales between there
@162600630
(You)
>>162591061
treads > deso > SnY > Basher > Butterfly > MKB
You already have enough damage from your Jingu and combo for the early mid so come online earlier with these items then transition lategame by selling the deso SnY
>>162600742
it looks like it belongs in some design company's website
>>162600201
'your boy'
Your average stats are terrible.
>>162600782
>It's almost
but it isn't you stupid fucking nigger
>>162600782
TOO SMALL
TOO CHEAP LOOKING
LOOKS LIKE IT WAS MADE IN 10 MINUTES
IT'S SHIT
>>162600850
>100% crit
are you retarded anon
>>162600782
>you are a minority if you think otherwise
what? literally everyone i have seen is complaining about it, even reddit hates it and they are shilling the fuck out of every other aspect of this patch
>>162543215
>the thread is 12 hours long
jesus christ what the fuck happend? i stoped playing dota like a year ago because my computer got blue screen´d why the fuck is this so dead?
>le 1% matches have heroes reaching level 25
IS COMPLETELY GOING TO BE BTFO
>>162600782
you are ojectively wrong
>>162600630
wheres the harambe reference in monkey king? i dont see it.
holy shit monkey king needs to get nerfed I just jumped across the entire map in like 15 seconds
>>162600829
every time a patch is released you see comments all of the community of "this is why dota is great, this is why i love dota this is why i play dota. Because it change so much every patch"
This is the actual mentality the majority of people have with these patches.
i dont understand is
why dont they just give players the option to choose what UI they want to use?
>>162601001
People are actually playing for once.
>>162600232
fuck you, its great
>tfw I havent played for a year and now Im still going against 4k players in unranked
this isnt fair
118MB UPDATE
Monkey King definitely needs lower damage and higher mana costs, he only has two skills besides his ultimate, at most 220 mana, his INT gain is trash but a single mana regen item will cover him because he has such huge cooldowns.
>random tinker
>directly counter monkey king picker
BLOGPOSTING IN 7.00
Peter Dager, EG player since 2014, and one of the most successful captains and competitors in gaming history, will now function as CEO of the organization. He will be stepping into the role long held by esports visionary Alex Garfield who has been a friend and personal mentor to Peter and the entire ownership group.
>Stuck at 100%
Thanks
>showcase
Okay the trees getting tall is cool as fuck for spectating
Lifestealer seems to have an easy time versus Monkeyking.
>wow le new hero is OP as fuck never saw this one coming literally no precedent either
>>162601056
Because that would mean that in the future they would have to make 2 of every hud skin, forever. Too much work for them.
>>162600946
>TOO SMALL
the old hud was retardedly large, literally everyone I know mocked it for this very reason. the new hud is at a good size, yes they should add options to scale it
>TOO CHEAP LOOKING
dont care, functions better if they add hero stats
>>162600976
>even reddit hates it
reddit hates some aspects of it, every comments and post I have seen that says it's totally bad gets downvoted into oblivion
>>162601016
>you are ojectively wrong
you are objectively a waste of a possible abortion doctors paycheque
>>162601103
M A S T E R M I N D
It's ironic Monkey King's weakest ability is arguably his ultimate.
>>>that fucking cast time takes FOREVER
>100 seconds CD at level 1
>just WALK out of it
>if he leaves it's cancelled
The best way to use his ult is to use it in the tree, jump for the slow and then stun so they stay in it as long as you can make them but otherwise Jingu Mastery is fucking OP with his instant stun crit and mobility.
>>162601103
Good for him getting a real job with experience that can be used in a multitude of other areas
>>162601197
Everyone forgot Pitlord exist after 1week
>>162601235
look at all the people disagreeing with you you fucking moron
just stop talking about shit you know nothing about
>>162601202
but valve doesn't make huds
other people do
>>162601197
>le monke is op
objectively wrong
Why are the lanes so small now?
>PPD is a fucking CEO now
>he literally won more than anyone ever
>and then avoided the honeypot 7.00 to make even more money running the organization
are you
are you fukcking shitting me
he outplayed
everyone
SO
FUCKING
HARD
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT
he's a literal strategical fucking genius
>>162601001
Uhh, what?
any one else crashing randomly?
no windows error message or anything, like a clear cut crash
the ui looks too much like league. its too small, I want to scale it. the empty space will guaranteed be used by streamers for sponsors and other moneygrabbing crap.
just increase the size of the minimap by like 50% and it's fine
Are there any redeeming factors of this new UI?
[x]Shitty item menu
[x]Small font unreadable
[x]Game downgraded
[x]You must hit ALT to see information that's scattered all over the shitty UI
[x]Trolls fronting this UI
Is the in-game chat fixed yet?
CREEPS OR NEUTRALS NO LONGER DISABLE CLARITIES OR SALVES LAMO WTF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>162601343
delete this
>>162601347
so treant can punch you easier
>>162601404
you dumb fucking faggot you can resize the minimap yourself
>>162601372
The mastermind of this Dota generation
>>162601343
for a new hero thats fantastic
>>162601052
"these patches" doesn't come close to describing this hot mess. Dota is literally a new game now.
Does Stockholm syndrome mean anything to you?
>hotd support item
>mom differnt
What do carries buy for lifesteal now?
Valve introduces their first ever dota 2 only hero and what a shock, he's phoenix levels of busted
>>162601319
>wow 3 people disagree with me You sure proved me wrong xDxDxD what an incredibly intelligent person you are !
we are talking about the place that defended single elim a week ago, and then reddit made polls on whether people liked it or not and the majority disagreed with good ole dee too gee the autism containment board of an autism containment site
>>162601389
looks like moving your camera too quickly crashes the game with the new grass and tree effects
>>162601404
you can do that in options
>>162601494
Naked morbid mask
>>162601347
That's how League does it
>>162601431
towers dont disable urns or the liek either
>>162601343
>People struggling because hero gets instapicked without having played it before
The fact that it's over 45% is fucking worrysome. Ember and Earth spirit were both sub 40% in their most OP versions. Monkey is much easier, but still, people should be worse than fucking 47% winrate in the first hour of the patch
>>162601421
The style is gone with the UI too, its too bland looking. Minimalists get a fucking hardon out of these kind of designs. I don't mind the empty space but atleast keep along with the dota 2 style
also I want a bigger animated portrait, its too small and my eyes fucking hurt reading the text
I don't want to ruin my 20/20 vision
>>162601431
Toxic anti-fun.
>>162601372
You mean Garfield tricked peter into buying the organization from him because he got bored wasting time and money on esports
>everyone fell for the "PPD stepped down/was fired" honeypot
>in reality he was promoted to be the god damn CEO
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I'VE BEEN A PPD FAN SINCE THE BEGINNING AND EVEN I NEVER FUCKING SAW THIS COMING
A
GOD
DAMN
MASTER
MIND
stop this icefrog
stop it now
>Overthrow and 10v10 not updated
>AD not updated
Valve is fucking stupid. The best way to play this shit would be a fuck around mode
Despite some things here and there being broken, I am liking this patch way more than I expected to.
>>162601421
It takes up less space but I think that's about it.
>>162601497
>Phoenix
not Centaur though
>>162601347
we want the LoL audience
TWO GAMES SO FAR
TWO SUCCESSFUL "dota_select_hero npc_dota_hero_monkey_king
"
TWO WINS
Monkey King is kind of hot.
Shirtless, giant staff, the constant gyrations...
>>162601494
Morbid Mask gives 12 damage and lifesteal.
Which is then upgraded into Satanic, which gives +50 damage, and some other stats.
>>162601347
Icefrog wants you to roam.
>>162601451
>>162601506
oh
>>162601494
vlads :^)
>>162601656
easy there kittyplays
What are some fun heroes to play while ibounce on my boys dick
>>162601347
wtf Timber hates dota now
>>162601052
i just wanted illusions nerfed, off lane fixed, supports nerfed, and creep gold increased
a godsend would be blink costing mana again too to fix retarded no risk strength initiators or mass map mobility
a further godsend would be tps costing 140g again as they ought to do
but they literally gave you three extra bag slots
so yeah
fuck me
>>162601575
Seems risky. The fighting game people are good, mostly, as are the SC2 players but if the Dota 2 players leave the team he will be hard pressed to fill a team with good players. Like if Crit, RTZ and Zai left that team is fucked.
He also used his own money for it. Atleast the EG team has shit, why the fuck would you ever buy Alliance if your Loda/Akke ?
wait what the fuck is PPD CEO of?
mcdonalds?
>out of nowhere, PPD, who everyone thought was fired, is now the CEO of EG
a fitting contribute to the year 2016
Where's my fucking MMR reset, season and leagues Cold Frog
>>162601347
I like it, more trees, more pathing, less vision, jungle actually feels like a jungle unlike that incredibly obvious big blot of empty in Radiant Jungle previously. Now there's patches of trees around in with the rune. I think this makes Dire more gankable though, too many stairs.
>>162601728
EG
No prior experience in running a business so good luck with that
>>162601542
We Wuz Kangz is more effective against people who can't play against him, rather than with people who can play him
Once people learn to not get hit four times and how to counter monkeyniggers jumping around in trees his winrate will plummit
The spirits had comparatively much less counterplay
His best bracket will probably be the 3k-4k bracket
>>162601494
Morbid is better, satanic is better.
who /diving into ranked matchmaking fuck the consequences/ here?
Hey /d2g/, is it me or there's no hotkey for leveling up stuff anymore? Are we condemned to use our mouses to level this shit like we have 10 hs again? No more clutch lvl6 leveling on the run?
>>162601816
yeah, sub 5k is all the same anyways
Hey do you guys know where I might be able to find all the heroes' poses from the new versus screen?
>>162601273
yeah his ultimate is definitely the worst of the three. His tree jump would be just an above-average skill if it was just a 1000 range 70% slow 340 damage aoe waveform, which is already great, but the fact it gives you tree walking for free is ridiculous
but just because his ult is the weakest ability doesn't mean its not overpowered, its still hideous, dropping that shit in a teamfight is one of the best aoe-death-zone skills in the game, its outputting more dps than an exorcism or macropyre or chaotic offering, and its spamming disgusting amounts of echo sabre procs and bashes
still its an ability that you can avoid entirely if you walk out of it so MK has to set it up with his stun first, which he often doesn't want to waste until his passive is charged up
>>162601838
I can level my skills via key just fine
>>162601838
They removed that - you're forced to use Ctrl+Key to level up abilities instead of being able to configure it now. Probably will be fixed in the future.
>>162601838
>tfw i never stopped clicking the level up button with my mouse despite being a 5k shitter
>Valve added a tanky bruiser to the game
League of Legends called, this design was from 3 years ago
CM's ult is now Mei's ult. Holy shit, this is awesome.
>>162601863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnsWdOZ5t4&t=494s
>>162601838
Ctrl+skill levels it up
>>162601780
he is the most op hero in the game as of 10:41 pm of the day 12/13/2016
>PPD is the CEO of EG
it's official
PPD is goodpuppey
>>162601421
Icefrog just needs to put in the option to make the UI bigger, like you can do with the minimap.
>>162601915
>tanky bruiser
Stupid League poster
>>162601717
>PPD can LITERALLY fire Alliance whenever he wants right now
It's all part of the game, he fucking owns his former opponents now.
Did the size of the old HUD actually ever impact anyone's gameplay? Is anyone out there really daft enough to get killed by someone standing in that area, and not notice them on the minimap? Or not hear them? Or not hear the pings? Or just have shitty camera control in general?
Id go back to it if possible. I see zero reason to change the HUD.
>>162583709
y-yes luna-chan ill get the penis pump right away!
>>162601596
same.
>>162601780
even once you learn that the moment he hits you 4 times in a row in lane you fucking die and he goes super saiyan, its still hard to play against
since basically every time he hits you twice, you're in the danger zone and have to retreat to your tower for FIFTEEN SECONDS
cutting his trees doesn't even work, a good we wuz kangz won't even need to use trees except to travel between lanes or initiate, and if he jukes you for 3 seconds to escape with it, he'll be way out of range of your tree chop skills anyway
>Cant even finish patch download because of disc write errors
cool game valve
>>162601915
>Monkey King is tanky
literally how?
also
>LoL invented 'tanky bruiser' whatever someone who deals damage and can take a hit
Might as well call Pudge and see how he's doing.
>>162601970
>mouthbreathing mongoloid tries to trade hits with monkey kang in lane
>gets 4 hit Q'd
>cries on 4chan
>omg he is OP he one shot me
>chat bugged
>skills bugged
>laggy af
>random bugged
worst patch confirmed
>>162601915
>MK
>Tanky
what the hell are you smoking?
>>162601994
He can't, Alliance went independent
>>162601372
Now he can just lap it up with KBrad and Justin Wong at FGC tournaments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2hsewxQdFA
>>162601989
This and maybe move sum of the ALT info to be viewable at all times
It just patched again
JUST NOW
did patch fix the chat problems?
>>162601901
Oh, I see, thanks. It's still retarded, I just used capslock, it feels so natural desu.
>>162601907
maybe that's why you're not 6k
>>162602049
based k-bread
fucking bodied daiGOD few weeks back
always rooted for breadley
I really thought I would like this patch, but I don't.
I would have welcomed the change to stats to talents on old dota 2, but new dota 2 just plays so differently. I don't like the changes to gold, experience, or the death timers. Before you hit level 20 just feed down mid who cares you're only dead 20 seconds. You hit level 20 and suddenly you're spending over a minute in base.
And that in and of itself isn't an issue. The issue is you're fucking level 20 at minute 20. 1 level per minute was sign of a good mid dominating their lane and securing the creeps, but that still fell off hard later on and eventually your levels do slow down.
What is the fucking point of Midas now honestly? Gold and experience flows so much faster by just teamfighting 24/7. Who gives a single shit about hitting creeps past the very early game.
Even when behind I don't feel like farming will do anything. Just get a single kill and suddenly you get 1k gold and 3 levels. And comeback gold was already ridiculous, don't get me wrong, but I'm getting massive comeback gold from people on minor killing sprees.
I thought Icefrog nerfed hero gold?
Sure as hell doesn't feel like it.
It doesn't feel like dota.
It doesn't feel like anything I've ever played before honestly. I thought it would feel more like HotS but it really doesn't, and it's not at all similar to League. It's like some arcade game, like a fucking custom game.
I don't like it. I miss old dota a lot right now.
>>162602029
>chat bugged
literally just fixed by valve, go download update
>skills bugged
>laggy af
>random bugged
probably still bugged
How do I stack new jungle???
did PPD/EG time their announcement to coincide with the patch on purpose
>D/C from a game
>Dota2 updates
>Can't reconnect
>Abandon
>LPQ
nice
>>162602147
hit creep and walk away?
HAHAHAHHAAA
THE NEW UI DOESN'T SHOW EFFIGY INSCRIPTIONS
GET KEK'D GOYIM
>>162602049
he already went to FGC tournaments even before he became CEO
>>162602131
waaaaah
where were you when dota fucking DIED
UPDATE
CHAT
IS
FIXED
>>162602026
>be in lane as any hero
>motherfucker jumps from a tree
>stuns
>hits me for easy kill
just pick ranged bro like just keep away :^)
>>162601915
MK is the glassiest of cannons.
How fucked are replays considering they've changed the entire map?
>team runs into literally nothing and starts hitting Roshan
>>162602180
and you will finish that LP game like the cuck u are
>>162602026
Its 15 fucking seconds he gets to zone me out because if i get close to him he goes monkey trouble
Its too long, its like ursa but once he hits you 4 times he won
>>162602203
holy shit that does look like him
>name is adelaide
>has never been laid
dotards?
>>162602232
get good
Is Medusa good? Thinking about playing her
>>162602238
Really? Because every one I've fought has gone straight tank and still shat out damage
>>162602080
surprisingly i've never had a situation where i didn't manage to skill up in an instant when necessary despite incorporating a mouse click into the process
i don't really enjoy playing the game alone though so my solo mmr hasn't changed in years
I fucking love how you load in the picking phase now, I put Dota on my HDD and not my SD because of how big it is and I no longer get fucked in the ass by people last-picking and loading their hero models. Also that item buying is also a nice touch, there's literally no wasted time from the start of the game to 00:00
>>162602131
Although you're whining a lot, I do agree with the fucked up gold ratio
We kill a lvl 25 six slotted carry with a beyond godlike with their team having 20 more kills than your team? Sure, you get 800 gold and maybe a lvl or half. But they kill your support with no lvl, no gold, no kills, nothing and they lose 500 gold. It's fucking retarded.
>>162601994
Alliance went this own way, Loda/Akke are co-owners with their manager being the CEO or ex-manager who knows.
I assume Loda/Akke retired and manage a new squad they form.
if PPD is CEO of EG now, how is he going to rejoin EG and make them great again?
>>162602286
it WAS him, it's just that the image is shit
>>162602326
you better hope you dont lose every lane
>>162602009
woa i might never be a veteran in any game, im always late hahaha
>radiance applies to every copy of him in his ult
you literally MUST kill him before the teamfight, no other option
>>162602326
Good hero's is a meme ,only good players
>>162602294
Adelaide got laid with me just a week ago
>>162602440
it d-doesn't stack though, r-right?
>>162602131
>dead for 20 seconds is okay
That's farm you're not getting. Talk when you finally leave 2k friend.
I wish he actually spawned illusions though instead of these idol shits which are like uncontrollable tempest doubles.
>>162602294
delet this
>>162602440
or i can just forcestaff him out
>>162602009
That UI was so good.
I never stopped hating the one that came after it for doing away with it.
>look at in game friend list
>a dozen people all level 20 or above, half of them are level 25
>its another monkey king episode
>>162602131
if you don't like NEW THING then you are obviously a close-minded autist who is scared of change
don't worry, memories of past fun with THING will make you keep coming back and over time you'll get used to the changes and soon they'll just be trivial annoyances. Then you'll reach the acceptance stage and admit you have no power of what happens to THING and will mold your tastes based on whatever it does
who uninstalling dota hero?
feels like a custom game. if I wanted custom games I'd play custom games. 10 years of balancing thrown out the window.
>>162602131
You didn't play dota before they changed bounty gold earned, did you? It was way worse than this.
>>162602584
The hammer better be swift
>>162602009
avatars never ever again
>>162602229
thank god
if this patch continues to tank players
we might actually roll back to TI4 Dota.
>>162602584
Ok he's getting nerfed.
>>162602009
>players online
>3405
a better time
>>162602584
>lv1 Jingu Mastery gives 80 damage
>>>Refraction level 4 gives 80 damage
>>>Metamorphosis level 4 gives 80 damage
>>>Searing Arrows level 40 gives 60 damage
No way is his fucking passive balanced with his Boundless Strike.
>>162602584
>Muh alt-right memes
Easiest shibboleth to spot in my life
how do I play dota 2
why does the matchmaking always send me to a weird deathmatch custom game with 3x gold and xp ???
>>162602536
>BKB
>>162602328
maybe in anything below 3k
>>162602584
it really makes no sense why his passive makes him do +200 damage on each hit. Like what the fuck, not even Terrorblade gets that much of a steroid
what the fuck is this ui
i dont know what the fuck is going on
why things appear every side of the map
the fuck is this shit man
>>162602721
TI4? No, hell no. Back to TI3 or even better, TI2.
>>162602424
PPD is a smart guy and he sees the writing on the wall. Valve is ruining Dota and it'll be dead soon.
>>162602584
>>162602761
you sure do get triggered by 4chan culture easily
>>162602721
It tanked players because it forced over half a million people to turn their game off.
>>162602798
ill force myself or my team mate out then
havent read much about the new patch and imma about to play ranked.what should i know any tldr?
>>162602737
no shit, Jingu+extra crit 25 perk+boundless strike is instakill on a support
>>162602584
>current year
>>162602860
but where does EG go after Dota 2 is dead? CS:GO is gonna be dead before that
>another update
wtf?
>>162602895
Pick Razor and wreck the monkey shitters
>>162543215
>most important patch in a decade
>nobodys streaming
lul could dota be more dead ?
>the chat room is my actual city
What the fuck? How long was it like this?
Match time seems to have gone from 45-50 minute strating to 25-30 minute deathmatchs
>>162602849
I love the TI4 patch but anything before 6.82 is fine with me.
They won't, realistically, roll back that far though.
>>162602873
he's from reddit, so not much of a surprise
>"we want the LOL ui" dota 2
>>162602996
like... 2 years minimum
>>162602131
This is launch 6.82, and in like a week we will have 6.82b
>game won't go safe to leave if one of your teammates dc
>have to wait it out
I really hope this is a bug
>>162602584
>lifesteals from ~200 HP up to ~700 HP
>kills jugger from 100-0 in a 0.5 second stun
bravo icefrog
Where can we get the small patch's notes now that it's not Test Client anymore?
>>162601772
>had to captain a team with arteezy
he'll manage
>>162602968
this
razor is a god
pic semi related
>>162602860
>wasted ALL of his winnings buying a minuscule share of a dying organization
>a smart guy
>>162602929
its instakill on a carry too
>>162602584
If they were gonna do a 4-hit proc passive like LoL, they couldve at least made it so the enhanced hit was ONLY for one hit. And fucking 200 damage? Man I do love free Rapiers, who wouldnt? And all for the low low cost of hitting someone 4 times. And why the fuck does it give him lifesteal? He already has a crit Q, more range than other melee's, and tree escapes. That passive just needs a rework, whoever thought that was an okay product is insane.
>>162602996
no please, omg fuck this game
>>162603083
he's so broken its not even funny
>>162603127
Well, he's smart at Dota at least.
>>162602131
>1 level per minute
Is 7.00 litereally -apem??? Did the madman just merge easy mode with standard games??
>viper's wings are no longer forward swept
goddamn it this was cool as fuck
>>162603161
naw its kinda funny
>100 fps less since the update
defend this doeturds
how is MK ult not goodriki ult?
Fuck Abdul Ismail
This isn't Dotes anymore
Uninstalled
>>162603278
You're right, sorry
I should have said he's so broken it's way too funny
In fact, come to think of it, I've actually laughed out loud tonight
>>162602507
In old Dota that'd be a fair point, but you can get so much more gold for your team by just deathballing all the time. Even if you die you'll still probably end up with more gold than if you had hit creeps because of bounty gold and rapid respawns and massive gold for minor comebacks.
Like holy shit. I just got out of a game where the ricing Anti Mage had less networth despite much higher creep score than his manfight all fight DK, in fact, AM placed 3rd on the networth despite having as much creep score as the rest of his team combined because while he was hitting creeps they were just deathballing.
I got fucking destroyed all game, had like 30 creepscore, and had a near comparable networth to him because of comeback gold.
What in the flying fuckballs is that? I was a 2/10/11 Tiny with 2k less networth than a 5/2/7 AM at end game.
What the FUCK
>>162602625
Admittedly I am not part of the old guard, but I did start playing Dota back in 2013 and I thoroughly enjoyed most of the three years and I wish I'd gotten into Dota sooner.
I play it off and on in spurts and I loved how finely tuned the game was and how many minor things made major differences in the long run.
And this new dota is just leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I feel like my job is to put a square object in a round hole and the only way to accomplish this is brute force.
At the moment I do not like the game at all. It should not have been released as is it's clearly unfinished and should have stayed on the test client. The performance issues alone are crippling to my system. I haven't had a game run this poorly since Nvidia botched a driver that killed cards.
I mean like, I can run Battlefield 4 at a mixture of Very High and Ultra just fucking dandy, I'm not crazy for being confused as to why the game fucking seizes up whenever Bristleback presses W right?
>>162603278
>[cha cha cha chh cha cha cha cha cha in the nearby area]
>>162603376
>I've actually laughed out loud
The real problem is how 4chan became a poor man's reddit over the years
These changes are just awful. The map is fucking ridiculous now.
>>162603235
I just checked my last 4 games for comparison
2 on 6.88, 2 on 7.00
TOTAL XPM PER TEAM:
6.88:
>3.0k vs 2.2k
>2.1k vs 2.4k
7.00:
>2.8k vs 1.6k
>1.9k vs 1.3k
the 1.3k team basically afked, but otherwise it looks like everyone still hovers around 2-3k total team xpm, so its not a big change
>>162603278
>each statue applies the 100% slow for 0.6s from echo sabre, independently, and they don't share cooldowns
>each statue has a 25% chance to bash, doesn't share cooldowns
REEEEEEEE
Wait why isn't one interesting pro playing?
>>162601656
He is kind of thick too.
>pick monkey king
>at least two people on my team actively losing the game on purpose because they weren't fast enough to pick it
>>162603517
thanks for affirming that MK ult is just a better riki ult
>>162603404
You're implying that you can just go gank someone with no effort whatsoever. Anon, there's these items called wards and something called 'player instinct' that do exist
>30 cs
>dying whole game
I got my answer
This is probably the least amount of fun I've ever had playing dota 2
Doesn't feel fun to play anymore
This patch is SO FUCKING BAD
>>162603443
>he map is fucking ridiculous now.
fuck off
this is great for roamers since you can gank any fucking lane now.
yeah im gonna wait a couple weeks till they patch everything this is just madness right now
>>162602131
this is my impression too
probably going to just leave for a month and see if it's improved then, it seriously feels like a deathmatch oriented custom game that should just end at 100 kills, the pro scene must be having a meltdown right now
Just played a game
I have some complains
>the UI has potential but needs polishing. In leddit there are good suggestion to improve it
>Monkey king is horribly OP, like, the most overpowered hero ive ever seen, and i saw release phoenix in dota 1
>game is too damn fast, so shrines have no time to shrine
The rest is fine. The map always changes and i will get used to it. The talents are fine too.
>>162574716
new level 25 is old level 23
>>162603556
exactly
>>162603451
You need like 30% less xp to hit 25 though
>>162602109
me too. I was usually over at GLHF, which now known asdotacinema
got my key in november 2011, 5 years. It has been 5 fucking years. jesus fuck almighty
>>162603610
I can deal with the gameplay changes but the performance issues is just fucking me in the ass right now, and I really dislike the UI.
>disable the parts of the hud that i don't need
>fps goes from 90 to 250
lmao
nice hud dotards
>>162603575
fuck off back to /reddit/. I'm sure they care about you leaving than we do
>>162603521
Dendi was/is
Some flew back from Boston today, EE got robbed, not sharing early patch thoughts with people
2 tournaments in the next week. 1 all Chinese in 4 days, then a few days after is China Top with Wings, Newbee, DC and EG.
>>162603404
> I was a 2/10/11 Tiny with 2k less networth than a 5/2/7 AM at end game.
this happens in 6.89 too
>>162602131
Its called
ANGEL
ARENA
albeit the genre is called hero arena
Guess which kind of games had exp tomes? Not dota
hero arenas had them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt6tFd3x3Xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEn2mXeyNj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJpPo77YEu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VxgsIcgZns
>>162603629
It definitely feels rushed with the reworked levels, hopefully they balance it back to the ~40 min games that allowed room for strategy, etc.
>tfw lc will not stop dueling wu kang
>>162603521
people are flying back anon
everybody just played a massive amount of dota 2
let them cool off while we play
Monkey King feels like a LoL champ to me because all of his abilities only serve to make him stronger and nobody else, all while scaling off of his damage, and also supplementing his damage. He is THE ideal hard carry in LoL, and all of his numbers are overtuned to fit him in Dota. He would actually function nearly perfectly in LoL, and probably be broken there too, even if his numbers were tweaked.
>>162603563
Again, I gotta emphasize I can't actually play the game correctly because it runs so bad.
I'm getting constant 1-2 second delays here, I thought it was my internet and AT&T just being shit, but no, my internet is running fine, Dota is running so poorly I'm getting a full second or more of input lag.
Despite this massive handicap I managed to all but match a guy playing the game with much more ease and frankly better than I because I was near some of the enemies when they died and got loads of free gold and experience.
when you get bashed your hero bar and portrait shake
>>162603270
I don't like the remodels, they're not faithful to the old models.
>Viper no longer
>6 eyes
>forward swept things
>smooth look
>he now has pupils
and Slardar now has spikes and no lantern and no jaw.
>>162603749
Valve always do something like
I say in one week, game will feel good
HOW IS MONKEY KING'S Q ALLOWED THROUGH THE TEST CLIENT?
Make your bets now d2g
How long will it take Icefraud to fix this gigantic shitshow? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years?
>manta alchy nerfed
>octarion arc nerfed
>mom jug nerfed
>ghost huskar removed
Quick what are the funnest builds in 7.00 i have to play them before icefrug nerfs them
this new hud is FUCKING AWFUL. i just played a brood game and my spiders were everywhere, shit was flashing blue and my screen was shaking, stuff is just all over the place, i have to actually move my eyes to the very bottom of my fuckign screen to see hp and mana. what were they thinking
Who are the OP heroes to spam /d2g/?
The only people that cried about the old ui were people that didn't play dota
>>162603850
welcome to LOL 2
>>162603793
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1zAhC5aeQs
>>162603802
Mine's running fine at 90+ fps and my rig isn't that impressive. Don;t blame the new update entirely because your pc is having issues. The patch clearly isn't optimized, doesn't mean the update itself is bad for the game.
>>162603838
>I say in one week, game will feel good
No way, In one or 2 weeks of play the exact same game over and over people will get annoyed and will start to quit
>>162603841
some months like with 6.79
>>162603840
because its not even that broken of a skill on its own?
without his passive, his Q would just be a 25 cooldown earth spirit kick with higher damage lategame
fuck this unbalanced piece of shitfuck and valve for releasing it just to sell arcanas
fucking money grabbing jews
that fat fuck gabe should just die in diabetes already
>>162603778
Does duel not disable his jingu shit? I haven't played the patch yet.
>>162600551
>>162600632
>>162600850
OP here, essentially agree. Store times for e need to be reworked, and q crit drop to maybe 150%. The tree jump timer with distance seems like a pretty good idea too.
>>162603521
Could always be fucking around in private lobbies you know.
>>162603818
I'm very happy with the slardar remodel, but I'm biased because he was my main in dota 1
Now they just gotta change his shitty voice that sound like a 200 year old corpse
but yes agree on viper
>>162603930
just pick timber lmao
>>162603845
Carry Lich.
+150 bonus damage, Ice Armor, etc. Best hard carry in the game right now.
>>162603914
not everyone is a rat like d2g that leaves inmediatly
Also, its not like valve always do that shit
>>162603914
t. underaged and new
>>162603961
duel doesnt ignor passives since like 4 patches ago.
>>162603930
its a free game
they will fix it
stop being entitledis what d2gulag and redditor will say
>>162603909
Her head is too big. The way the dick is placed makes it look like its hers, but it isn't the right color and what she says doesn't it that situation.
at least it's not like a pheonix centuar earth spirit release
>>162603996
free skadi that STACKS with skadi
>tfw sny + skadi + phase boots on carry lich
>like 200% slow on everyone
>>162603909
why do you guys keep sexualizing an 8 year old?
>>162603682
I miss my beta doto and the Memes that came with it. I quit playing at winter wyverns release and I gotta say that was a better time than now. Are the draw friends still around? Had one draw a golem and warlock playing chess but my old of got nuked and lost it.
>30-50fps in a game
>110fps in a bot game
valve has fucked something up real bad
>>162603930
he gets stunned for 4 seconds if you destroy the tree he's in
he needs to get 4 hits in on a single hero before he actually is relevant in a fight
git gud shitter you probably cry over slark too
>>162604094
you're right, its even more broken
I haven't seen MK lose a single game where the player had a clue what he was doing. Not a single loss where he did well early game, the only times he's lost on test or main client I've seen so far have been people who didn't even know how his skills work
>>162604105
why do you keep getting triggered people sexualize a cartoon?
>>162602131
ya i feel man, honestly the worst dota patch ive ever seen
>>162604105
/d2g/ is degenerate. what did you expect?
>>162603629
>and i saw release phoenix in dota 1
oh fug I'm not the only one
>>162604105
because she's cute?
>>162604137
this famalam
>>162603908
Why the fuck wouldn't I blame the new patch for taking my game from 120fps to 12fps?
Are you insane or just an ignoramus?
Fuck off. Holy shit. Your post is actually infuriating to me, it sounds like a fucking reddit apologist post.
Don't blame the fucking patch for my 1.2k computer not being able to run a game that runs on office cards? Lowering the settings doesn't fix the halting lag and only minorly improves framerate.
It's 100 fucking percent the patch's fault because it was clearly rushed out before it was even CLOSE to finished. They had to release a hotfix 5 hours ago to stop cleave from interacting with Wukong's Q.
This patch is held together by little more than duct tape and blind optimism.
>>162603793
Ember fits the same description. He will be fine once he is tuned down and doesn't just kill 2-3 people by himself because he lifesteals and crits constantly.
>>162603818
>no one liked old models
>why aren't they faithful to old models
Slardar should have kept the lantern but otherwise I prefer the new ones. Haven't seen Slardar with cosmetics though, I assume they probably look like shit thought
>>162603909
u guys have issues
>>162604027
No you dont understand
why do you think from all maps dota was the one that became massive? Cause it was pretty fucking well made and htere was a lot to it so every game felt and played differently
With all this shit the game has become one dimensional and repetitive. The trend to leave will increase ten fold
No one played angel arena or those kind of maps more than once a day and all games develop the same cause everyone gets the same income of gold and experience so all there is to the gme is to get kills. You dont even have to choose what item to build cause no more orbs and talents make up for the hero weaknesses
Game will die faster 100% guranteed
>>162603980
I....CAAAME A LOOOONG WAY TO SEEEEEEE YOU DIEEEE
all do his lines are so long. Due to his fucking voice.
>play horrible
>team mate gets triggered and calls me out
>report them after the match
why does this feel so satisfying
Could Gambler defeat Wukong?
>>162604036
they did the exact same shit with the revolver in csgo
it was fairly obvious that its unbalanced but otherwise they couldnt sell it for shit
fucking disgusting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJERivIGA4A
>>162604230
You said the entire patch is dogshit, right? Even all the changes? Just because it ruins your fps? Yes, you can be upset over that. But you can't say the entire patch is shit because it tanks your fps.
Literally a retard.
>>162603916
seems more like a better physical damage version of fissure that crits than the dumb kick from earth spirit
>>162604119
>Are the draw friends still around?
some of them are still around, but /d2g/ scared the rest of them off.
>>162604278
that 'nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooo' death fuck sake it gets me so mad
>>162604145
Remove lifesteal and its fine
That said, if people wanted a solo pub carry then Monkey King can carry a fucking game. Get charges, even if you have to hit the enemy car
>>162604096
his int also scales better than just about anyone in the game
will never understand why people insist on playing him as an underfed support.
Of ALL of the things to change, why the UI? At the very least give us an option of using the old hud
>>162604137
TRY LOWERING THE VIDEO SETTINGS MY MAN
>>162604297
>i'm a shitter
>instead of learning how to play i'll just meme on 4chan
ok
I hope our spectating ui doesn't turn into this shit, but I'm afraid
>the patch has made people really mad
truly the greatest game of all
>>162604105
>it's another redditor thinks a drawing of a fictitious tree person is a child epidsoe
>>162603841
before the chinese international
so 2 months
I saw him working his ass off on the test client dev forum, carmack-tier. he has a lot of things to do now.
>>162604424
Just looking at that picture makes me hear the sound effects from the heroes
fuck the S2 Engine was stuff of legends.
>>162603930
Oh hey lets copy lol's way of balancing too, the knee jerk way!
Great idea anon.
>>162604391
radiant have better vision with the old hud in terms of low skill players because going down with your camera as dire
t. 2k
>>162604424
Considering everyone shit on Battle-view at Manila, and at Boston, its doubtful.
>>162604305
maybe later game when wukong is 6slotted has banked so much money that chip stack shits on him, All in would be alright
>load into game
>can't communicate because chat is fugged
Nice Journey, dotards
>disable screen shake
>my hero bar shakes when i get bashed
???
Is it just me or has snowballing increased tremendously?
>get fed early
>force enemy out of their lanes
>doing so denies them XP
>GG their team average level is 16 at 30 minutes while your entire team is around 20 with all the nice talents unlocked teamwide
>>162604339
I dunno, I've watched 3 high mmr games so far and he's 1-2 and that 1 was him getting carried while his kda was like 1/16/15
>>162604339
>Remove lifesteal and its fine
No, the lifesteal is fine, you can control that shit
but the crit + passive is fucking bullshit
Monkey king
>Passive extra damage is an separate instance of damage and doesnt affect Q's crit
>reduced extra damage by like 20
>if you dont keep hitting the target for more than 5 sec between stacks, the bonus is gone
>the 4 hits buffs dont lasts forever, add like 20 or 15 sec duration
this NEED to happen right now, and then we can see if he's strong or balanced.
>99%
Fucking finally
>>162603841
>>162603915
6.82b came out after 4 days, but it took a few months till 6.83 "mostly" unfucked the gold/bounty stuff but memeback was still a thing.
>>162604545
you can communicate but you wont be able to reread anything people say or your own text
can still read other's shit but no alt clicking for missing runes items enemy items exp levels skill ready etc
>Ask for patch early
>They release it unbalanced and unfinished with lot's of bugs and performance issues
ABSOLUTELY MAD
>>162604569
only in low as fuck mmr games. if people don't know how to play from behind then they are most likley 3k trash
I think this patch is just a great example of how if something isnt broke, you shouldnt fix it
And yet they decided to try and fix just about everything, including things outside of actual gameplay, which is now affecting gameplay
Bravo Valve.
>>162603908
>>162604137
Oh yeah, and fucking this.
When I run a bot game it's fine, performance is the same as it's always been.
Jump into online and the framerate is at minimum halved and any hero with significant particle effects actually using any of them chokes the life out of my system.
Like monkey king. Anytime he ults I can't see what's going on because my game turns into a powerpoint presentation. God forbid it happens near a creep wave or with a Bristle inside.
I thought I had taken 1k nuke damage in a quarter of a second but my game had actually frozen up for almost 5 seconds.
>>162604321
Yeah you need to get some reading comprehension, I never said anything close to that. You seem to be putting words in my mouth and then arguing with me about them. My complaints with the gameplay have been listed in detail, my inability to actually play the game at an acceptable manner is just icing on the urinal cake that is this patch.
I'm going to hold my breath for further patches. This patch is fucking madman tier for a variety of reasons. Some good, some bad.
But even if this was the best game in the world I can't play anything but bot games, and the bots are still as shitty as they've ever been.
>there are people who don't like this patch
LMAO ARE YOU SERIOUS?
>>162602016
Write errors are a hardware error you retard.
You have bad sectors.
>>162603278
Can i bm his shit up on this situation?
>>162604640
They even added new bugs like the broken chat!
a moment of silence for our deceased memes.
>>162543215
>open doto
>play my main
>expecting pub games to be same even with meme update
>enemy team picks zeus, shadow fiend, monkey king, antimage, riki
>absolutely BTFO them early to mid game
>no one knows where the fuck riki is
>snowballs and BTFOs my entire fucking team
>whole team building aghs
is zeus, shadow fiend, monkey king, antimage, riki the new meme team?
>start game with 60fps
>game goes on fps lowers
>by the end of the game im on lowest video settings with 20fps
>>162604639
I play on US east which is like 70% spanish speaking
alt-clicking shit is all I have man
my only issue is the jungle changes tbqhwy
This new hud might be the worst hud I've ever seen in a game, save for some shitty wow addon's.
>>162604320
business really ruins things
now IF is just a Valve employee who has to do some stupid shit just to feed the pass/arcana buyer.
hey what if chess wouldnt have squares but triangles ?
>>162604664
point is playing from behind just got added another level of difficulty
anyways i dont fucking know i'm staying far away from ranked until this patch gets sorted out, who knows what my unranked mmr is
>>162603610
Everyone's acting like this isn't what happens every big patch.
It basically valve's way of telling us to go outside/study for finals
WHAT HAS THE FROG DONE
They really need to nerf monkey kangz jump range, jump+blink+jump+primal spring allows you to cover bullshit amount of distance in like 3 seconds.
Also blink should pretty much be mandatory on him because of how much utility it allows him, you can literally nearly instantly ecape from a tree the enemy is about to cut down into another cluster of trees so they cannot see you when you leap up again unless they have like tinker wards or the high cliff ones.
>>162604338
TFW both replies are to me.every time I check the thread it's either at 759 or 90 posts deeper. But yeah I'm all for a voice change, I don't mind the actor I just don't like.how slow he talks.
DOTA IS FUCKING FINISHED
>>162604320
that pistol was some bullshit
>>162604673
>tfw you will never be this mad over the internet to start posting paragraphs
>>162604727
anyone, anyone, monkey king, anyone, anyone is the new meme team
>4 normal queue games
>Monkey has yet to not get 10/1 by 15 minutes and snowball out of control
SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT
>What are the points to these changes why does the game have to be this way I dont get it, whats the new objective to play dota now???
>Ice Frog: To make our own community mad
>>162601032
he's a monkey nigger
Why did we need talents?
What was wrong with the old HUD?
We had the same map (with minor adjustments) for the past 15 years. Why change it now?
Why didnt they spend the past 2 years making more than 1 hero instead of all these changes no one asked for?
I think icefrog would not have made these changes if he was still modding wc3.
>>162604320
Pistol was fucking fun
Everyone got it, turned the game incredibly more fast paced and instagib simulator
So fucking good
I cant even fucking play Dota but based on what Ive seen and heard Im glad I cant now. What a shitshow. Valve is a failure of a game developer.
>>162604569
I thought so at first until I killed an overextended enemy and got three levels and 600 gold.
He was only 4 levels higher than me, and he gave this gold and experience over me and three other dudes. For one kill. He was on a 5 kill streak.
>>162604840
>oh fuck he's calling me out on being retarded and incapable of reading elementary school english
>>162604895
Every game I've seen has had wu kang getting shat on
>>162604895
I'm going to try and get solo lane every game just so shitters don't feet him. Probably going to take undying, or better yet SHADOW OF DUH BAT. CAN'T HIDE IN THE TREES MONKEY MAN
>wreck slark in lane
>teammates still feed him at level 6
I haven't played in about 7 months because all of my friends quit the game and I didn't want to rage at nobodies in solo queue because I don't want to be that guy
Should I just be that guy? 7.0 looks pretty good...
>I JUST WON VS MONKEY SHIT
>ALL WE HAD TO DO IS GET SILENCE, DOUBLE HEX AND DIVINE
>have what many considered to be your magnum opus the 6.88
>burns it all to the ground and starts anew
HE'S FINALLY LOST IT AND WE ARE THE VICTIMS
Heroes with 60 extra GPM at level 10:
AA, Disruptor, Ogre, Omni, Rubick, Visage.
Undying gets 90.
Heroes with 90 extra GPM at level 15:
Earth Spirit, Lion, Magnus, Phoenix, QoP, Treant, Tusk.
Oracle, Silencer and SWM get 60.
Enigma gets 120.
Is it worth it to consider GPM talents for levels 20 or 25?
>>162605019
what the fuck?
The last game I played had about 10 rapiers floating around.
Like what the fuck?
It's so right click based now. All the big plays are just meele damage. Spells are irrelevant. A 45 minute game feels like a 90 minute game with everyone farmed to max final items.
This is so dumb.
>>162604791
Nah that is a bit too far. Shadow Fiend was still dogshit when his arcana was released, they didn't bother to buff him to sell a skin. I doubt Jugg is going to see major increase because he gets his arcana later, and Zeus was still very shit when his arcana came out.
The CSGO stuff is just generally because Valve has no face for CSGO. Years ago TF2 had Robin, Dota 2 has Icefrog even if its not direct communication, but who the fuck knows who is behind CSGO? CSGO also doesn't have a test client or atleast its not in my library, so when shit comes out it just comes out.
Like map overhauls. Train took like 2 big revisions to be playable, Nuke is probably a few revisions away.
>https://twitter.com/tsunami643/status/808299837208797186
>you can literally pull the radiant camp into the tier 2 tower for ez jungling
absolutely epic
>>162605115
Usually get lvl 20 at lvl 30 min so i maybe
I still don't know what to make of this patch
Truly the biggest madman of them all
>Mandalas constructed from sand are unique to Tibetan Buddhism and are believed to effect purification and healing. Typically, a great teacher chooses the specific mandala to be created. Monks then begin construction of the sand mandala by consecrating the site with sacred chants and music. Next, they make a detailed drawing from memory. Over a number of days, they fill in the design with millions of grains of colored sand. At its completion, the mandala is consecrated. The monks then enact the impermanent nature of existence by sweeping up the colored grains and dispersing them in flowing water.
>>162605115
>Is it worth it to consider GPM talents for levels 20 or 25?
never, unless you somehow have fucking nothing at level 25
>so much buttflustering
ayy lmao
>>162605065
i don't speak french, wtf is a magnus opus??
Do you think that things might've turned out better if Valve just released these things 1 patch at a time instead of trying to shove it all in at once and breaking shit along the way? Announce the jungle changes, receive feedback, adjust accordingly and change Roshan accordingly a patch later. Announce HUD changes, receive feedback, iron out bugs, release it. Introduce talent trees, release revisions of game mechanics, adjust accordingly, and then finally release Wukong.
Not all this shit at once.
WHY IS EVERYTHING SO FUCKING SMALL?
>>162605263
its a type of pie
>>162605115
No unless the game looks like to be 90 minute one and you still aren't 6 slotted.
lvls 10 and couple of 15s are worth it, but outside of that not really unless you're really behind and even couple of hundred of gold makes a difference
>>162605021
no, dota was replaced with angel arena with 3x gold/exp
if you want to experience the shitshow go ahead, but frankly the game is going to die.
Alright this HUD needs some work, at least some options to toggle stuff back on. I want to see my stats at all times.
Can't say anything about the balance, except that MK is the most ridiculous hero I have ever seen.
>>162605181
>camps spawn every 00:30/1/3/5/7..
WEW
http://www.huomao.com/11836
if you want to watch rotk and co play tournament. if you want to change the quality its the in the picture
I hope at least Reddit crying about the performance drop will get something done.
I've lost like 30 frames.
>>162605263
It's a skin for Magnus.
WHY IS JUNGLE IN LOW GROUND
DOES THE FROG HATE JUNGLING?
>Gaben walks into Icefrogs office
>"sorry but we've decided to let you go, you have till the end of the year and can release one final patch before we take over"
>Releases 7.00
CHECKMATE VALVE
>>162604997
they never develop game
all they did is literally "outsourcing" by hiring the original creator and then add DLC option into it
>>162605263
spot the american
>>162605375
30?
I went from 150 to 55
>>162605309
Most people are unaffected by the ripples of 6.82, so this clusterfuck of hitting levels super fast, high death timers being reached faster, and gold swings and gold loss on death shit will be fixed/tweaked eventually.
>>162604995
>Why did we need talents?
the game was getting boring as fuck, and this adds more longevity and breaks the traditional roles for some heroes and adds for adaptibility in a match
>Why change it now?
Because madman
>Why didnt they spend the past 2 years making more than 1 hero instead of all these changes no one asked for?
Because flat hierarchy structure
>What was wrong with the old HUD?
I guess people called it too blocky, I prefer function over minimalistic shits
>>162605324
>FREE level 2 at minute 1
epico
>>162543215
Jesus fucking christ Monkey king is broken as all fuck, 600 damage in lane with zero items because lol you hit them 4 times.
>>162605425
based frog
This game is now a low barrier of entry brawler game like HotS. Instead of optimizing your farming patterns and having supports make plays to create space, you will just 5 man deathball from minute one and fight CONSTANTLY or you will fall behind. If you get low, just bottle one of the fucking 5 or 6 runes in the map or take a Sippy Cup from the SHRINEAFDDSFA
Can someone draw a comic of a /fit/ CM saying she'll be the carry now to a surprised Sven? Sporting her new +100 attack talent?
>>162605324
the 0:30 an 1:00 camps are literally free xp for your roamer/lane support allowing you to dominate the lane.
>Literally copy elements from LoL and HotS and add them to the game
>Butcher the fucking map
>Changed to shitty new HUD for no reason, no legacy HUD
>Add cancer hero with Arcana as usual
>Bugs out the fucking asshole on patch release (good thing we got that test client)
Done with Dota 2 lads I know you don't really care but just had to vent somewhere, been playing less and less lately, this is where I stop.
It's been a pleasure shitposting with you gentlemen.
Dota is literally over. Go home.
>>162605485
But kills give less shit now
>>162605506
ironically this is when I come back, I haven't played since .86
see you in manilla anon
>>162604995
extra way to tweak mid/late game balancing without making the hero overpowered in laning stage
Old HUD had a ton of wasted space which was removed, new HUD needs tweaks aka removing the alt functionality and just showing that stuff and moving stuff around
>same map with """"minor"""" adjustments
You clearly haven't played Dota that long
So what if we just went back to Warcraft 3 and played some custom games? Heaven vs Hell or something.No Chosen One or you get kicked
>>162605425
absolutely incredible.
based Abdul the absolute madman
>nobody can use chat
>get into games where nobody has mics
>just draw in the map
>stomping hard, enemy is playing like shit
>game ends and we win
>POST GAME CHAT EXPLODES AND THE ENEMY SPENDS THE 2 MINUTES IT TAKES ME TO SEARCH A NEW GAME TALKING SHIT BACK AND FORTH
L FUCKING MAO, all that anger that they couldn't get out during the game just poured onto the post game chat. Fucking hilarious, saw it coming from a mile away.
>>162602328
Building survivability items doesn't make him "tanky" though, that's like calling sven a nuker because you bought veil+dagon.
Played 2 games and I'm already burnt out. This new patch is fucking awful. I like the idea of talents and they add a lot more depth to the game but pretty much everything else is dogshit. HUD, map, monkey king, shrines, level 25 at 30 minutes. Who is this patch for? People who have never played dota in their life so they don't know what it was like before this update?
>>162605470
>>162605502
you rite u rtie
>>162605514
Member how back in TI1 and 2, Valve was making original contributions to the game that competitors stole? How the day after the very first matches every shown at TI1 HoN immediately put regen numbers on their bars? Stuff like that?
Now Valve is stealing from other games instead of making their own innovations. Talk about a fucking joke
What the fuck should I play now
HoN?
>>162601273
Its hilarous that his ult is the worst of his abilities but if coordinated its literally free team-wipes once you have even 2 items. The channel time fucks it pretty hard but if you land a decent setup its game over for them.
This is the most busted hero I've ever played in this game and holy shit does he need to be absolutely gutted to be okay for play.
lads VG.J are playing in a chink tourney right now
nerf this fucking monkey into the ground please.
>>162604820
This tree thing is bullshit. Totally unfair.
If I can't have Dota nobody can
>>162605678
>>162605472
That's not even that much of a problem, the amount of mobility he has is beyond retarded, lvl 3 monkey kang can ltierally jump in from 2k range, nuke+slow you, get 4 hits in with his bullshit range and then stun you with a lifestealing crit only to pound your ass with remaining 3 hits.
Mastery needs a nerf, maybe give him only 1 hit at lvl 1 and then scale up?
And decrease jump range.
Calling it now
>Dota players for December: +100,000
>Dota players for January: -200,000
>>162605716
Link stream, or is it only ingame?
>>162605181
This got fixed in update 5? I think
CHAT IS BROKEN LUL
if i ghost scepter myself, do i still take damage from Monkey King's Q and die?
>first game of the patch
>shitter bracket
>shitstomp cancer pickers and an idiot who first picked monkey king
liking the patch desu senpai
>>162605716
Nobody in the west cares about DPL
>at level 25 monkey king can have a guaranteed 300% AOE crit with stun
We agree this needs a nerf?
>Find game
>que for 7 mins
>Game client of out date
>install patch
>que for 7 mins
>Game client of out date
>Valve release major patch in the test client
>clearly needs optimisation and bug testing, that's the whole point
>WAHHHHHHHH WHY ISN'T IT IN THE MAIN CLIENT A DAY AFTER BEING IN THE TEST CLIENT?
>*goes into the main client*
>WOWWWW THIS SHIT IS SO BUGGY AND BROKEN WHAT THE FUCK VALVE?
Jesus people are fucking retarded sometimes.
>>162605808
panda()tv/408548
arc warden is in the game if you care
>>162605686
HotS
>own 240hz monitor (press only release)
>used to get 300 fps in dota 2 ez
>now i get ~150 fps after the update
holy shit how can people play at such low framerates? everything fucking stutters
jesus this is making me nauseous
>>162605797
I'm calling negative december. This number was at +2.00% yesterday.
http://steamcharts.com/app/570
>>162604320
>an actually fun gun was added
>they still have not added a wild west mode where it is 15 v 15 with pre nerf r8's
>people still allow the awp and people bitch about the auto even though its a 2 shot to body to kill
fuck that game
Reminder Monkey King isn't gonna get nerfed because they just released an Arcana for him and it would hurt sales
>>162605780
His passive needs to be absolutely gutted to be fair. Limited uptime on enemy heroes, Limited buff duration upon himself, and the damage could be halved and it would still be amazing. The fact that his Q procs his passive is also pretty fucking stupid.
Everything about him is vastly overtuned right now, and I expect significant nerfs to him within the week when people realize how fucking dumb he is to play against.
>>162605757
>>162604820
Needs a higher cooldown. I think jumping short distances should be low cooldown, jumping max high cooldown.
Why doesn't Slithereen Crush scale off my physical attack damage like MK's Boundless Strike??????
>>162604339
>be monkey king
>go 16/3/8
>lose game because I can't deal with blademail and the only other hero on our team that can do any damage is an invoker that doesn't use his spells at all and feeds constantly
Took a lane of racks then I just fell off because my team is a bunch of useless fucks.
>>162605680
because there's no IF left and VAlve by itself is not really a game developer company. They are like those mobile game studios who just copypaste every shit they found plausible and then add ingame purchase option.
>>162605680
>making original contributions to the game that competitors stole
Like what? Matchmaking, servers? Replays? Sandbox? Literally all of that was done before Dota 2.
>>162605991
Slardar doesn't have a new arcana to sell
>>162605928
To be fair, this shit's been in their hopper for at least a couple months now.
Did you think they put all this together last night or something?
>>162605579
>You clearly haven't played Dota that long
he's right though
With the backpack you now have NO excuse for not carrying a TP at all times.
>>162605961
it was fun but broken as fuck
funny for a day or two but after that it just gets annoying
the awp and auto is both balanced
>>162605964
>zeus got buffed with arcana
>SF got buffed with arcana
Things that didn't happen
This patch is fucking pathetic. If you like it you're a Valve cocksucker. Dota is dead.
>>162606069
same goes for those stingy supports who make the excuse of not having room for wards to buy
I know he's the new hero and all, but did they have to release Monkey King in such a broken overpowered state?
>>162605680
>stealing from other games
demigod talents are good though
>>162606108
feel free to stop posting dude
>>162606149
>did they have to release Monkey King in such a broken overpowered state
yes, they want to sell as many 35 dollar arcanas as possible
>>162606043
>Did you think they put all this together last night or something?
No, but they can't test it on a wide scale until it's in the test client because it's much easier to find bugs and gauge server performance when there's hundreds of thousands of people playing it.
Of course the autistic fans got impatient because they're too dumb to even get the test client.
>>162606149
Yes, the last hero I think that wasn't broken on launch was LC in WC Dota
What an immense patch. And Wukong sounds broke as fuck.
>playing patch on release day
>complaining that everything is chaos
>>162606149
Feels like he wasn't tested at all, no way in hell would anyone with a brain ship him like this. Simple answer is they wanted to make money of the Arcana, and I'd say its working because in 3 games I've played tonight 3 of them had it.
Quick /d2g/ I need a 100% guaranteed win Treant build.
>>162605950
a massive amount of people will be starting up the game today/tomorrow, and everyone will have free time during the month to check it out
But this shit feels like it's going to be like when Reborn launched, same exact huge player decrease, except this time on top of being unoptimized as fuck the balance is complete wack and monkey king is broken as fuck and easily the most annoying hero to play against
>>162606249
he's not, but confirmation bias is a hell of a drug
>>162605680
if anything they stole a shit load of stuff from battlerite
i dont think valve enjoyed zai art and crit playing and streaming battlerite, thye were also having fun playing which valve disapproves
i like this new patch but it feels closer to hots than dota
i can just run away for free gold and free regen
map is a clusterfuck
>>162606287
Having a teammate who picked Monkey king .
>>162606287
level up tree invis
???
win
>there are valve fancucks on damage control mode literally policing this thread
>>162606307
Haha, okay guy who needs to rationalize the 35 dollars he spent on him.
>>162606252
I just want them to optimise this shit.
>>162606307
>MK
>not broken
want to know how I know you've bought the arcana?
>>162606149
While it's easy to say that Jews at Valve did it to sell Arcanas, people who played WC3 DoTa know that's how usually IF roll. He releases a very strong hero, people whine and give feedback, then nerfs him when needed. Mostly people that buy Arcanas are those who play the hero a lot or liked the hero concept enough to pay
>>162605181
Stack+fatal bonds=ez warlock jungling, are you ready?
>get sniper aghs
>just hit like 150 physical damage
WOW ITS FUCKING GARBAGE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>162606149
blizzard way of selling shit
release a broken hero and let him be op for 2 weeks or more before the balance patch hits him
this is why everyone hates li ming and chromie til this day
>>162606439
you're supposed to buy it when you already have items
ill test when it starts giving more dmg then regular agh
>>162606439
is late game item dude
>>162606108
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/ca/Undying_death_08.mp3
>>162605971
No
Every hero should slowly be BUFFED to monkey king levels.
Dota's too stale now that icefrog has nerfed anything that goes beyond balanced vanilla play. We need more heroes like rat furion and lycan withoud a warded jungle to make dota exciting again.
>There are people in this thread defending this patch
Valve cocksuckers leave.
>tfw to intelligent to play until 7.00b and pros define the meta
>>162606439
don't rush aghs you fucking moron
>>162606293
If Earth Spirit didn't kill the game Money King won't.
The two biggest peaks of Dota 2 were Year Beast 2015 and Shanghai Major compendium launch. Dota 2 reborn didn't actually have that high peaks, shit didn't crack 1 million
>communicating entirely through pings
they said they fixed it for fucks sake
>>162606495
>>162606506
Ah yes another ultimate rubick gets thats ruined when he has aghs?
There should be an option to click on aghs scepter to not steal aghs upgraded abilities so he can do duel and sniper ult (since pre-aghs is better for him)
>>162606390
I only need to lose 3 games in a row because of some kid picking Kong and not knowing how to last hit.
>>162606390
>>162606439
Its supposed to be a backpack item from tower defense/sieging, probably an 8th buy, which is unlikely
gonna color this tomorrow. Gnight d2g
>>162605686
civ 6
>>162606287
>100% guaranteed win Treant build
>TANGOS, ORB OF VENOM, STOUT SHIELD
>LVL 1 NATURE'S GUISE, LVL 2 LEECH SEED -> GUARANTEED FIRST BLOOD ON OFFLANE
>TP TO SAFELANE ONCE THEY HAVE THEIR SENTRIES UP (TP IS CHEAPER THAN COUNTERING THEIR SENTRIES AND YOU WILL CATCH THE ENEMY OFFLANER OFF GUARD)
>IGNORE LIVING ARMOR, GO 4 - 4 - 0
>ARCANE BOOTS
>BASHER
>ECHO SABER
>AGHS
>HEART
>AC
>TALENTS: ATTACK SPEED, GPM, DMG, BASH
CONGRATULATIONS YOU WILL NOW WIN EVERY GAME WITH TREANT
is the new monkey king terrain overpriced or is there no such thing as being overpriced in a capitalist world?
Who else playing since wc3 days and consider to quit now ????
>>162606672
ilexa is not for lewd
>>162606672
nice
He just got nerfed less than an hour ago, now you lolbabbies can stop crying.
God, its already hard enough to carry games with these first-pick kong shitters.
>Dota 2 Update - December 12, 2016
>7.00b:
>* Boundless Strike critical strike from 200% to 175%
>* Tree Dance cast range from 1000 to 400/600/800/1000
>* Primal Spring damage from 100/180/260/340 to 75/150/225/300
>* Primal Spring slow from 40/50/60/70% to 20/30/40/50%
>* Jinju Mastery bonus damage from 80/120/160/200 to 40/80/120/160
>* Jinju Mastery lifesteal from 20/30/40/50% to 25%
>* Jinju Mastery is now a magic damage instance and will not critically strike with Boundless Strike
>* Jinju Mastery now has a charge duration of 30 seconds on Monkey King
>* Mischief no longer fools towers, the fountain or roshan.
>* Mischief courier speed from 350 to 200
>* Wukong's Command soldier damage from 100% of Monkey King's attacks to 75%
>* Wukong's Command soldiers now share cooldowns with item based abilities like Basher with Monkey King
>* Wukong's Command mana cost from 100 to 175/200/225
>* Wukong's Command duration from 13/14/15 to 7/9/11
>* Nature's Guise stun duration from 1/1.4/1.8/2.2 to 0.4/0.9/1.2/1.5
>>162606723
What are you, her father? Mad your little girl is a slut?
>>162606715
same here man i feel genuinely sad
>>162606495
it starts doing more damage at around 160dmg
but keep in mind it changes to physical, also it can apply deso
the patch is literally good
http://imgur.com/a/FqVA4
>>162606715
Me, game just feel like a giant killfest now, I fucking hate it.
>>162606715
this doesn't even feel like a dota anymore
it's something else entirely, i just run around doing whatever while """roaming""" and always end up level 20 at the 25 min mark, every single player on both teams are always level 25 and 6slotted by the time the game ends, i don't know where i get gold from most of the time i just suddenly have 6k gold so i buy an octarine core
>>162606751
Almost like he was insanely busted and deserved all of that and probably more.
>>162606715
>>162606786
I don't know how you guys even made it to this patch, I couldn't.
>>162606751
deleete
>>162606751
He's still broken as fuck though, just because mouthbreathers pick him doesn't mean he's useless.
>>162606751
the link on that post was a patch from 2012 you fucking redditor
>>162606751
you already posted this bait last thread retard
>>162606836
t.(thanks) reddit
>>162603953
why would it?
duel hasnt disabled passives for few years now
>>162606672
The giant obscure black face with the cutest eyes is the best thing about her.
Good stuff.
>>162606851
I think I'm done with dota, the chat rework is too much and if you die late game, that's guarantee loss
>>162606708
>no such thing as being overpriced in a capitalist world
>>162606851
The push for games to be 6-slotted, and team-fights only(not that I loved the rat era) has really killed a lot of the enjoyment for me, why outplay your lane if its just going to devolve into HotS styled seige play while your carry dicks around in the forest for 10 minutes and comes out with 4 items.
Did CK deserve to be cucked into the support position? His aghs pretty much says
>this hero sucks, just give your ult to someone else who's more useful and actually has items to make an impact
Reality rift doesn't give bonus damage anymore, it's fucking terrible.
>>162606672
noice
Gotta say, despite the new changes like 4 runes and the new roshspot, i'm pissed off over the glitched chat. It isn't helpful if you have to stop what you are doing and manually scroll down to look at your teammate's text and how much gold you need left for items. [sp]it's making me think about reinstalling league, plz help /d2g/ [/sp]
>>162606218
Well the least they could do is communicate to the community what theyre fucking doing instead of revealing their grand scheme 3 days in advance with zero details as to what it may contain. Not every update has to be some legendary myth come true.
What every other big game gets:
>Hey guys here are the upcoming patch notes, changes, balancing, and our decisions behind them
>These'll go onto the testing client for a week and then be released on the live server after some tweaks
>Wow gee thanks Rito/Blizzard/Whatever
What we get:
>Man there hasnt been a decent patch in like 2 months, must be saving up for TI or something
>OH SHIT GUISE LOOK PATCH ANNOUNCEMENT TOMORROW
>NEW HERO? NEW ITEMS?
>IS MY WAIFU GOING TO BE VIABLE!
>HEY GUYS LOOK OGRE MAGI WAS ADDED FINALLY!
>WAIT WTF WHY ARE THY ADDING ALL THISBSHIT NONE OF THIS LOOKS GOOD
Erry time. Only this time there are legit massive issues and very blatant jew practices going on. And itll only get worse from here as Valve has to create fully functioning new heroes. No other sources to draw from in WC3 anymore.
God have mercy on us when the first new hero drops.
>>162606836
>this is considered """funny"""" by redditors
not only being 1k mmr at the game they are also 1k at humor
>>162606715
Me. Been playing since 2006. Game is fucking dead now. Icefrog wants the HOTS/LOL audience, but now he's going to lose his core audience. Great job retard.
Anyone who isn't leaving is a cuck, simply as that.
>>162607092
>[sp][/sp]
>>162605686
Demigod, the character that plants mines is also the sniper.
DOTA IS DEAD
>>162606309
Battlerite is fun but the player retention is poor and the top players are always complaining about the low skill ceiling
>one year ago i quit dota
>pick up hots to play sometimes
>kinda like it its simple
>for some reason i wanna try wc3
>play the campaign
>enjoy it
>now a lot of mechanics that i disliked before in dota makes sense
>start playing dota again
>the game become hots with a patch a week after
>>162607092
Glitched chat got fixed, update Dota. Patch just came out
Where were you when dota 2 was kill?
https://twitter.com/Peterpandam/status/808534245828333568
Based Peter telling it like it is
>>162604424
The hon engine reminds me a lot of the WC3 engine,I think even the font used at the bottom is the same one as the used in WC3.
>>162606715
>carries come online slower
>jungling gutted
>ancienting prohibited
>lvl1 rosh removed
>pushing slowed
>ratting is harder
>supports scale
Feels like icefrog wants you to play dota his way only, balanced teams with alot of roaming/ganking/5man.
It's nowhere near as exciting as the imbalanced, hecticdotacashdays.
>>162607217
BASED PPD
>>162607207
sleeping because its fucking 7AM when they released the patch
>>162606715
I'm not. My biggest gripe is the UI and the horrible optimization, the terrible balance, but everything else I can deal with. I'm sure he'll tweak shit within the next few months.
>>162607137
You haven't played since shit, pretender. Fuck outta here.
>>162607105
i opened it just because you called it reddit
it is pretty reddit
but rubick being called rabbi was funny
>>162607207
3 years ago with 6.79
then 2 years ago with 6.82
>wake up
>No (good) patch
>>162606839
>its like this after every fucking major patch
when they added
>>162607261
hows life in your 3rd world country
>>162607217
He's not a pro player, everything from him is not relevant anymore
>>162607217
EVERYONE SIT DOWN. VALVE COCKSUCKERS SIT DOWN. THE GOD HAS SPOKEN, PATCH IS SHIT. LEAVE VALVE COCKSUCKERS.
>>162607196
THEY SAID SO
BUT THEY LIED
i just played another game of PING PING PING where communication and doing anything is fucking impossible
>>162607320
pretty bad but at least I have good internet connectionI dont even go outside anyway
>>162607073
eh. ck as a hero just isn't good as a carry in way too many situations. so many heroes just remove his one good aspect (100% dmg illusions) with ease. as a roamer he's got really good ms, possibility for a good stun time and something to pull people back. Atleast he'll get picked at all now
So what is the consensus on lemon key face?
I just had my first game in four months and I obliterated the other team with ease
>>162607217
If they had made their stand with 6.82, this patch never would have happened.
>>162606594
If only rubick could put his aghs in his backpack to avoid this issue or something.
>>162607429
he is horribly overpowered
>>162607225
calling it right now, this will end up being the best patch in dota history by the end of the month
>>162606836
>Ryan
>>162607429
Horrifically overtuned and will need to significant changes to be balanced.
>>162607217
Why the fuck do I have to listen to someone who is going to ruin EG?
Fuck I'm actually having fun with this patch.
The frosty toad of balance has done it again, the madman, talents do work.
Keeping track of that the oponent's talents are and what they do is going to be a fucking chore I can tell you that.
Hey!
why can the dire mid get to their shrine much faster than radiant mid? what did icefrog mean by this?
>>162607225
hon was dota 2 before valve, of course everything was exactly as it were in wc3
>>162605949
I play at 40-50
>>162607559
radiant was demonstrably op
The new changes are interesting
>reddit removing any threads complaining about fps issues
I'd like this patch if it weren't for lag spikes and my fps being halved
>want to post my memese
>700 posts
THE GAME IS COPYING HEROES OF THE STORM HOW THE FUCK IS THIS ACCEPTABLE
>>162607647
>playing max settings
>fps is great because I have a 970
>random crashes and guaranteed crash once ancient goes down
Did Valve do ANY bug testing?
>tfw staring to like the patch just to be contrarian
just uninstalled and the feeling is great
Axe is much better now. The extra damage and health regen makes him feel strong.
What do you do with the new techies mines dude
>>162607709
Icefrog has wanted to make these changes since before Blizzard thought this game could actually be profitable.
>>162607696
you have to go back
i spend 30 minutes making shitty pictures in paint and only upload them once, even if it doesn't get any (you)s
>>162607735
I have a 1070 and my fps went from stable 150 to 60-80
THERE IS LITERALLY NO EXCUSE TO NOT UNINSTALL DOTA 2 RIGHT FUCKING NOW, IT'S NOT FUCKING DOTA ANYMORE IM PLAYING SOME OTHER FUCKING MOBA CALLED HEROES OF THE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS
>>162607801
put them all over the place
plant a mine and a statis trap together to ensure hit
plant them on cliffs
>>162600164
Retardation, ADHD and lack of taste. Incidentally there is no lack of these things in the average gamer.
>>162607846
Overclock
>>162607845
I just want people to see my fun
>tfw visage went from jokingly "le hidden op" to ACTUALLY hidden op as fuck
I love this patch for this solely but wish the rest was reverted
>>162607846
>implying there's a difference between 60 fps and 150
>Most of the info in the new UI is on completely other locations than the previous one
I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT GAMEPLAY CHANGES I'LL GET USED TO IT BUT DON'T MESS WITH THE UI GOD FUCKING DAMMIT SHIT
FIRST RIOT NOW ICEFROG (ON AN EVEN BIGGER SCALE EVEN)
FOR
WHAT
PURPOSE
>>162607801
techies is actually good now
now if only i could communicate with my teammates his new ridiculous nuke spell would be a lot more usable
>>162606978
>liberal druggie "journalists" think their opinions are valuable
jesus there are some tremendous autists in this thread, fucking hell
>>162607928
we want the LOL audiences
who the fuck can read anything in this HUD? I'm playing Axe and I can't tell for shit when an enemy is below the kill threshold for Culling Blade. Do I need to be an eagle with a telescope to read this?
The only truly baffling thing are shrines. They are basically harder to kill than Roshan.
>>162607025
>>162607240
>>162607850
So when is gook moot getting rid of frog posters?
>>162607801
If you want to kill some niggers just plant a Proximity, put Stasis at the edge of the AoE and watch people pop. If there alive just go 9/11 and ram them
>>162607745
haters are the contrarians
>>162607953
>d2g
>not autistic
pick one and only one.
>>162607953
If you want normies go to /kekg/
HOHO HAHAHOHO HAHAHOHO HAHA
....HOHO HAHAHOHO HAHAHOHO HAHA
>>162607928
You can turn off the new popup when you click enemies/allies.
That's the only big problem I had with the ui
>>162607647
If they fix the optimization, chat log, and UI, this patch would be 9/10. The talent trees were a good idea
>>162607961
I just cannot understand
What was the thought behind it?
Let's just change the style of the ui COMPLETELY, oh and also let's randomly misplace the info from it?
I will literally pay shekels to valve to get the old UI back holy shit
>>162607953
anyone who thinks the patch is bad is an autist
autists are good
YOU on the other hand need to go back
Played my first game , stayed up till 4am to do it
Literally stomped and BTFO the monkey king , even 1 v 1 him as a squish a few times
This patch literally means nothing but a fun update unless your pro or very high bracket
this is nice patch
>>162608132
>this is what people with assburger chromosones actually believe
Anyone to make it so that killstreaks and shit appear in the top center part of the screen again?
I really liked that senpaitachi
>>162608232
>>162608232
>>162608232
New thread ready
Well, looks like I'm done with dota for tonight
>Bottle jungling is about to be viable again
>Batrider will soar to 100% winrate because he will have 4 bottle charges a minute and twice as many camps to stack
>Not to mention the fountain visit every 5 minutes
Mark my words, bat/enigma are going to be picked every game soon
Is Wraith King a god now?
Has Midas on WK gone from good to 100% required?
my only gripes are the UI needs to be bigger. Game runs fine for me and I just won two games with AM farming all game
>>162608314
Twice as many camps respawning half as much
>>162607912
>stomp people on NORMAL FUCKING SKILL with a fucking 5-STACK
>this hero is totally le op guys xdd
>>162608289
>What first-timers see when they play dota
>>162608105
its just valve's plan to make dota the biggest cashcow
>crowdfunding (only 25% lmao) to attract more pro players from other games
>ESPN shilling to attract more normies
>memeing inside the game (over 9000 invoker hat etc.) to attract more redditors
>disable modding and use those mods to get profit
>bullshit hero to increase arcana sell while make another arcana for hero who already has billion of hats
>the LOL UI + HOTS talents
dotards can say all they want but its not going to change what dota has become
a business, not a pure game for fan anymore
anyone know what happens if you axe call monkey when he's on a tree? does he hop off and attack or is he just stuck on that tree?
>>162608672
he'll walk off and attack
>>162608608
I've been playing dota for years, I don't want to be a doomsayer but this patch seems absolutely unprecedentedly retarded to me, and I sat through a bunch of bullshit in the patch, like the PL meta.
>>162604569
Of course it has. Snowballing isn't limited to item advantages and a portion of the level range but now takes up the whole 1-25 range, with extreme consequences when you hit 25.
>>162605469
>the game was getting boring as fuck
That's retarded. No it wasn't.
>play a test bot match
>we've destroyed all of the enemies forts by 10 minutes and we're pushing the enemy core
Did bots get retarded or is it like this in real games
So now I am level 11, and I'm slowly able to grasp more and more of what's actually happening around me. I've started playing various supports, because my teammates usually refuse to buy dust of appearance or sentry wards. I've already lost track of how many enemies died because of their overconfidence in stealth.
How long is this going to be a thing?
Also what's your favorite attribute, /d2g/?
Mine's INT, because INT heroes usually have amazing ultimates.
>>162608918
AGI - I gotta get that rice
GJ working on that support game, look into camp stacks/pulls (good timing since it all just changed)
>>162608902
more like nothing happens for the first 20 minutes but then everyone starts getting insane stat boosts and maxed out so after a side losing one teamfight, the other side instantly goes and deletes an entire lane of rax with their extra damage and nearly maxed out items
>>162608735
I only played Dota for about 3-4 years, but that's the impression I have of this as well, which is why I'm really curious to see the player numbers as time goes on.
Personally I gave every change in the past patches a chance, but this one is so fucking stupid I uninstalled the game.
>>162608902
Bots have been retarded for awhile since they never updated BOT UI, but since there's the possibility of making your own bots now it'll probably get better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YHOqZOIfgc
2 days left
>>162609124
>getting destroyed by bots
lmao casual
>>162608735
I have played this game since 2005 and I like this patch. According to your logic my opinion is better than yours.
>>162609231
wc3 cinematics looked better than this piece of shit
>>162607490
I think so too, everybody is just scared of change, this patch will revitalize the game.
I love how every new big patch is the end of the world, the worst thing ever, always it's going to be the end of dota, always there's a shady plan from the illuminate to corrupt the young and farm their shekels.
Every single time.
>>162602989
I played one match and instantly knew game was kill.
Good thing they have custom games or else they might as well just deleted it from game store.
>>162609076
>camp stacks/pulls
Right. I'm trying but I often forget to go stack, and only remember when it's already too late.
I should always get small camp stacked after the initial pull, right? So that future creep waves only require the small camp to die.
Both teams usually decide to duo offlanes atm. I am sure this will change as my level of play changes, but until then I am almost always stuck as the only support on lane, laning against two enemy heroes. So do I even try to harass them? And if so, how can I zone two heroes at once/What else do I do between full minutes?
>>162604231
I didn't even noticed the new Slardar doesn't have the lantern, it was the only cool thing about the old model.
>>162609617
d2g in a nutshell is just a bunch of turbo autistic faggots complaining about change since it ruins their ez mmr heroes
fps problems i will complain about but its the first day you faggots should learn they make everything broken on fucking purpose
>tfw all my mmr farming heroes got buffed.
>>162605065
>magnum opus the 6.88
Thanks, I needed a laugh.
no one is going to complain about the massive hdd space dota 2 is occupying? i mean you would think that all these changes they had to dispose of old stuff, but it feels like they just keep adding stuff.