/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General

not fast ENOUGH

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Alright then, let's talk about gameplay styles.

Specifically focusing on the Adventure games.

In Adventure 1, we have Speed (Sonic/Tails), Hunting (Knuckles), "Pursuit Escape" for lack of a better term (Amy), Fishing (Big) and Shooting (Gamma).

In Adventure 2, we have Speed (Sonic/Shadow), Hunting (Knuckles/Rouge) and Shooting (Tails/Eggman).

Which styles did you enjoy, which styles did you not enjoy and which would you like to see come back.

Personally, while I enjoyed the Speed styles, I hated playing the Shooting styles (though Gamma's was a bit more tolerable than Tails/Eggman's) and I just found the Hunting to be boring. Fishing was weird and finicky, while Amy's gameplay was also boring.

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The last Game you played, Anime you watched, Movie you seen and, Comic you read now Crosses over with Sonic the Hedgehog.

How fucked are you?

>We'll never get a Big the Cat game that chronicles Big's shenanigans in Sonic Adventure 2.
Sega, come on, please!

>>162571639
>Pokemon Sun
I wanna see Sonic and YA BOI meet now

>>162571692
Isn't Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 enough?

>>162571692
That's exactly what Big's Big Fishing Adventure is, though.

>>162571770
>Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3
Then where's Big's Big Fishing Adventure 1 and Big Big's Fishing Adventure 2?

>>162571630
I'm fine with multiple styles if they take up multiple games. Part of it is due to being financially fucked in the 00s, but Sega lost out hard by not making spin-off side games like Nintendo has.

>>162571639
>Last Guardian.
It stars Chris Thorndyke. He finds a Sonic. It gets delayed for many years. And when it finally comes out nobody talks about it. Not even /v/. Sega would still add it in Sonic Generations 24: Redux and Out of Time though.

How much longer till sonic boom makes an entire episode about chris chan? I know they did the obsessive fan episode, but one specifically about chris since he's so into boom and sonic in general.

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>>162571639
>Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 & Sonic all stars
ITS DO OR DIE

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>>162571639
>Postal Redux
Genocidal Shadow time.

>>162572163
Hopefully never, the less people talk about that mentally deranged fuck up, the better.

>>162572234
I'm fairly certain his encyclopedia dramatica article is one of the most popular. No way he's going to fade away, ever.

>>162571770
>Isn't Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 enough?
No.

>>162571983
What spin off games would they even make - aside from the Big Fishing meme?

I guess I could see some form of Gamma shooting game.

>>162572163
They likely won't. His antics aren't really PG friendly, nor do I think it'd be a good idea to do one whole episode of a kids show attacking one specific person.

>>162572354
>You'll never be popular like Chris-Chan and get referenced in a Sonic show.
Just kill me in my sleep already.

>>162572498
Omega Shooting. Babylon racing.
Hack n Slash with Knuckles
More Fighting games

>>162572498
Keep Sonic by himself as a 3D speed platformer.
Tails can have puzzle platforming and item use like in Tails Adventure, except bigger.
Knuckles can have exploration collect-a-thon platforming, and he can take the Chaotix with him.
Shadow would obviously be combat platforming, with Rouge for stealth-based sections and Omega for fuck-everything-up sections.

>>162572824
But inane argument on /sthg/ is a lot of fun.

>>162572824
>Implying the reason Sonic is living as long as he is now isn't from autism.

>>162571639
>Revolution X

All I know is that it would involve Aerosmith somehow.

>>162571639
>Yakuza
No clue, but I expect the music to be 11/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1uNUhIgC2g

I don't know if I should be happy or disappointed that there is literally no crossover fanart between the two, despite both being SEGA IPs

>>162571630
I'm fine with both games' playstyles, but I will say that the shooting gameplays kind of suck. The emerald stages were quite fun to explore around when you're not finding emeralds to beat the game.

>>162571639
>Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
Replace Paper Mario with Sonic and other paper version of characters with Sonic characters then I got myself a pretty fun Mario & Sonic RPG game that I've wanted.

>>162571630
I loved Gamma's shooting but hated SA2's shooting. Gamma was quick and responsive. Tails and Eggman feel like controlling clunky tanks while hopping over precarious platforms with janky edge collision.

>>162575894
This.

>>162571630
Hunting and shooting were fun in SA yet utterly obnoxious in SA2.

>>162576612
Hunting levels were shit when it involved Rouge
Shooting levels were shit when it involved Tails

>>162576612
It's really weird that it turned out that way.
In SA1 a lot of levels had to be functional for Sonic, Gamma, and Knuckles, three characters with completely different playstyles. Despite this they still ended up pretty alright. None of the SA1 hunt stages were obnoxiously bad and Gamma is honestly as good as Tails.
Meanwhile in SA2 they have the wonderful idea of giving each playstyle its own levels that are designed specifically for that form of gameplay, yet somehow we just ended up with shit like Aquatic Mine and Mad Space.
>>162577263
This too, Tails and Rouge levels are very transparently rushed

>>162577263
Both were shit in general due to the shittier radar and clunkier mech controls. The worse level design for Tails and Rouge were just icing on the shit cake.

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Made something for all you purists.

>>162577263
Knuckles was bad in SA2, too. Eggman had a few good stages, but he also had a few bad ones.

>>162577426
I felt Knuckles and Rouge controlled the best

>>162577638
Knuckles had more good stages compared to Rouge

>>162577390
Yeah, I've always feel that way whenever playing either Tails or Rouge's stages. The worst ones being Eternal Engine and Mad Space. Knuckles' worst stage is either Aquatic Mine or Death Chamber. What is Eggman's worst stage?

>>162577863
Eggman's worst stage is probably Weapon's Bed
Not BAD, but also not particularly special in any way

Cosmic Wall is undoubtedly the best shooting stage in either Adventure game, and if the mechs had the same physics throughout Adventure 2 that they did in Cosmic Wall they'd be a lot more bearable.

>>162577704
Knuckles had one. Wild Canyon was inoffensive, but too small and simple to really be good. And, sorry to tell you this, but Meteor Herd was shit.

>>162579295
both Space Stages were fucking gay, Im not denying it

Bump Boom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRDXDR4-t0c

>>162578112
I would say Sand Ocean

>>162581016
I forgot Sand Ocean
Yep, way worse

>>162580817
Was Mark force-feeding Sonic pies supposed to have something to do with one of those stuffing fetish fics?

>>162581702
I haven't seen the film it's based on properly but isn't it that woman who hacks the shit out that authors legs and burns him with hot soup and shit part of it? I know the birds flying away scene was part of it too.

>>162581886
Yep, it's called Misery

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>>162571639
Let's see, what did I watch last ti-
>Dragon Ball Super

SON OF A BITCH!

>>162582305
Has the new arc in DBS started yet, or is it still filler?

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>>162571639
>Drifters

How hyped would you be if the next project sonic trailer show cased more characters?

>>162582678
Sonic Drift?

>>162583231
NPCs? Bored. Playable characters that aren't Sonic in some form? Explosively excited.

>>162583231
Depends which and in what context

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>>162571639
>Hellboy
Hellboy goes well with anything. Fact.
I'd watch/play it.

>>162583698
I've been thinking about checking out Hellboy, it is any good?
Also
>Is that Monkey Khan
>HE'S GOT A GUN

>>162583362
>>162583440
Like if you saw shadow rouge silver blaze etc

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>>162583869
Am I the only one who wants to see the babylon rouges in a main title game? It'd probably never happen though

>>162571639
>game played
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

>anime watched
Dragon Ball Super

>move seen
Pacific Rim

>comic read
Sonic

>>162583869
context
playable? npcs again?
>playable any of those
I'd rather have someone closer to the central cast before we start thisu shittu agen
>npc any of those
A step up from Lost World at least

>>162584072
There was that one anon at /v/ a while back that said jet was supposed to make a cameo appearance in the next game. Idk if its true or not

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>>162583868
>Is Hellboy good
Does a bear shit in the woods?

It is my subjective opinion that Hellboy is objectively perfect. Pick it up for sure.

I recommend the hardback library editions, but if you're not made of money, the trades aren't bad either.

>>162571639
>Shantae and the Pirate's Curse
I feel we'd get lots of snarky humor and maybe a lot of Amy, Rouge, and Blaze fanservice.

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>>162584581
>Sonic game by Wayforward

>>162584713
Would it have shitty physics?

>>162584713
Wayforward wouldn't be good at a fast game

>>162584713
>>162585183
Wayforward would be fine for a platforming featuring the Sonic girls. Amy, Cream and Rouge can all be relatively slow and even Blaze can be slowed down if it's not a boost game.

But Wayforward probably doesn't give a shit about Sonic so they'd probably half-ass it.

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>>162571639
DOOM Dragon Ball Z Django Unchained Archie Sonic Comic Sonic the Hedgehog.

>>162571639
Xenoverse 2
Urusei Yatsura
Jason Bourne 2016
Archie Sonic

We got previews.

http://www.comicosity.com/exclusive-previews-sonic-universe-93-and-sonic-boom-volume-2/

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>>162571639
>Comic
>Nextwave
>Machine Man and Omega bromance
>Monica and Sally being done with everyone
>The Captain being the fucking CAPTAIN
>Boom Boom and Bunnie blowing shit up
Nextwave movie when?

>>162586227
Okay, seriously, these Pirates are the best Non-Egg Boss reboot OCs. I don't know how the fuck THAT happened, but it did

>>162586281
Who has the rights to them right now? Disney? iirc one of them is a mutant so I'm not sure.

Anyway I think a short series would suit them better maybe.

>>162586442
Helps when even bit villains are given personality outside of "we're the bit villains."

Really liking how Vector's being handled this whole arc too.

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>>162586587
Boom Boom isn't part of the X men iirc so I think she could go either way. The rest are Marvel, so if you wrote Boom Boom out for whatever reason you're good. But yeah, you're right, a short series could fit better.. Maybe a short TV series too
>>162586657
Yeah, you're right. Hell, the previews are doing a good job of showing that. I suppose it also helps that unlike the main book, these villains get 22 pages to do stuff in, while the main book has 10 to work with

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>>162586793

>>162586793
>Philip Marlowe slowly transitioning to Errol Flynn
I'm entirely okay with this arc.

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>>162586986

8-bit Sonic 1 is better than 16-bit Sonic 1

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>>162587162

>>162586793
Universe is actually 20 pages.

But given the number of characters here it's using them well. The first page is basically a gag recap and we still had all the Chaotix getting some focus in just the preview.

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>>162587347
Preview end

>>162587484
>But given the number of characters here it's using them well. The first page is basically a gag recap and we still had all the Chaotix getting some focus in just the preview.
Agreed. I'm surprised by how this arc is balancing everyone so well. And given that the OCs were introduced, the Chaotix still shine here like you said, and honestly I'd say that this is probably the best they've been in a long time

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>>162587347

>>162587996
What does she mean, "Tonight, you"? It's like she's threatening me or somethin'

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Reminder that these are literally the ONLY good sonic characters

>>162587996
They had to know this would be edited.

I entirely approve.

Was there any real reason why SEGA got rid of Runners entirely?

>>162587996
This is his role on the ship.

>>162588149
Runners wasn't bringing enough money.

>>162588318
But was it worth canning the whole thing entirely? Like, if I remember correctly, you can't even play Runners at all right now.

>>162587347
Where's the porn of shark spats?

>>162587541
Imagine, Charmy being useful.

Also, I love Opal.

>>162588442
I've already seen two pics of her.

>>162588434
>you can't even play Runners at all right now.
And people paid real money for stuff in that game.

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>>162571639
>Last Game
Master of Orion Reboot
>Anime
Overlord
>Movie
Zootopia
>Comic
Archie Sonic

OKAY

Sonic and the Freedom Fighters are trapped in a medieval MMO world that is real and is filled with animal people. Eggman has future tech and has built a portal to the Pendersverse using blueprints he found researching ancient alien ruins and unleashes literal hell as the Antarens and all of Penders Enchiladas come to slaughter the galaxy and it's up to Sonic and friends to save the day from a whole dimension of pissed off aliens with a vendetta through the super awesome power of teamwork and copyright laws that can't stop him.

Fund it.

>>162588752
Those poor people.

That wheel is one of the worst things I've seen.

>>162588628
I've seen some sloppy fanart. Is that what you mean?

>>162588752
I get that the game itself is free, and hurr durr spending money on mogame, but it's still a dick move. You invested in a product and it just vanishes.

>>162588318
Would've been completely fine had they kept the game the way it was during beta, but no they had to fuck it up and then wonder why it wasn't making enough money.

>>162589042
>I've seen some sloppy fanart. Is that what you mean?
I thought the original poster was talking lewds. I've seen a couple of those. No real fanart though

>>162589145
I assumed lewds too, I'm just surprised.

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>>162588434
>dat anime as fuck OST
https://youtu.be/YC9hHLfKZr8

>>162588752
It's a good lesson/reminder to never ever pay for anything in a f2p game.

Also to never support online-only games.

>>162589232
I am too. Apparently whatever new artists have popped up have decided to take it upon themselves to draw something other than the same 5 characters over and over

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>>162588442

Do not lewd the Spats Shark.

Spats Shark is not for lewd.

Neither is Jellyhead.

>>162582524
Technically not filler.

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>>162589259
Literally

BEST

SONG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxPlNTUW3OA

Always got a smile as playing as a FLY type character with this playing.

>>162590003
>Knuckles
>dislikes strong sunshine
Huh?

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>>162589413
Goddammit, her design and colour scheme hit me in all the right places

>>162571639
>Last anime
>Pokemon Sun and Moon

Sounds like that would kinda be like the OVA but with Pokemon, sounds pretty comfy tbqh

>>162589413
...look at her. Look at her attitude on-page. Look at MAPLE SUGAR.

>>162590384
He digs a lot
He goes through hidden passages in walls n shit
He's seen relaxing in Mushroom hill, which isn't exactly bright
It makes sense

>>162590657
I should watch the Sonic OVA again.

>>162590605
Well it's not like it would take much to outdo preboot Archie's attempt on a jelly character, but yeah I like her too.

>>162590003
I want to meet Sonic and call him slow.

>>162589381
And bless them for it

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>>162571639
>Fallout: New Vegas

>>162591671
>that Sal
Damn!

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>>162591671
Too bad it's pretty much dead

>>162591852
Like most cool fan ideas, sadly.

>>162587189
Really?

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>>162571639
>DOOM
>watching anime
>event horizon
>archie sonic

it's a game. the story is that eggman built a warp drive that ended up opening a gateway to hell, now sonic and his shitty friends have to fight back the demon invasion.
sonic plays as sonic, he goes fast and smashes shit. he also has powerups and can turn into super sonic in the end
antoine plays as hae-lin from demonsteele (there's your anime i guess) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RElfXigIe4c
bunnie is straight up doomguy but she doesn't need a berzerker pack to punch enemies into red mist
sally gets corrupted and turned into sally.exe (pic related) because "where we're going we dont need eyes to see" reference and ends up being a villain that you have to un-corrupt and save. this is a major plot point.
rotor decides to build the most destructive weapons he could possibly make and becomes russian overkill guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26XaTPApZLk

all the other game characters can fuck off because this is SONIC AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS DOOM: SUPER ULTRA SPERGLORD EDITION

>>162592120
I think so, anyway
Not too big on most of Sonic 1 Genesis but I like all of the original zones in Sonic 1 Master System and the only returning zone I dislike is Labyrinth.

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>>162592209
actually i watched attack on titan a few months back.
>robotnik says fuck this shit and builds THE WALL which he names after muh-ria and just waits it out while planning on how to take over the world from whoever comes out on top

>>162592665
I don't think anyone likes any version of Labyrinth zone.

>>162586227
So are variant covers in stores or do you have to order them or something? I really like this one.

>>162589259
>>162589645
I got a nice feeling when it was released, but I was never able to play it without problems. There was always something in the way. It's a shame, it was close to being really good.

>>162594037
The performance was always not good on my end on android. Really kept me from playing it above all else.

SONIC, DEAD OR ALIVE

BLUE STREAK
SPEEDS BY
SALLY THE HEDGEHOG

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>>162594302
Yeah, I had tons of performance problems. But now that I think about it, I always thought a possible explanation about those was that I blocked the ads. Was never really sure, though.

>>162594431
IS M-M-MINE

>>162594504
Nah, the performance issues were across the board, and were really noticeable for people that played the beta. There were no issues until it went live.

What's ya favorite Sonic crack ship?

>>162594504
I didn't block ads, it still ran like shit.

>>162594619
Blazamy is best pairing. Prove me wrong.

>>162594619
Every ship is a crack ship. But in particular Tails/Cream/Blaze three-way.

>>162594619
Knuxamy

>>162594618
I still had issues on the beta. Such a shame.

>>162594619
Chaos and Snively

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>>162594824
This. Shattered was a fucking delight

>>162594619
Sonic x Bunnie

>>162595914
I can see it working as a FWB type thing, but a committed relationship? No way in hell.

>>162596219
If Sonic can be committed to a stiff like Sally, then he should be able get along well enough with Bunnie.

>>162596393
Yeah, but Sonic & Sally's relationship wasn't that great.

>>162596393
Well, that's the thing. Sonic being committed to someone like Sally is really out of character, and they clashed all the time, even resulting in a massive fight because well, Sally wanted him to be by her side always and Sonic heavily values his freedom. That's a core part of his character. When written in character, Sonic isn't the kind of guy who'd want to settle down and have kids, and Sally and Bunnie are. They can have a casual relationship, but it's all it can ever be

>>162596393
Sonic and Sally started when Sally was written completely differently than she was from the Dark Ages onward and it worked.

>>162571639
GAME: Mother Russia Bleeds

Comic: Archie Sonic

Movie:Blue Lagoon

Anime: Phantom World

Everyone was on drugs that made anime real until murderhobos saved the day.

There'a also an island that had cousins shipwrecked for years grow up and bang each other before they left.

Anime is still real but Archie Sonic stuff has widespread prominence for some reason.

>>162594619
ShadowxBiolizard

>>162596393
That was because Sonic and Sally's personalities play off of each other well and even then it was written like shit for almost half a decade.

>>162596917
That's incest, anon! They are siblings!

Why would an Ultimate Life Form be made into a Hedgehog? Wouldn't it make more sense to make it into a Human since we are the master species?

>>162596971
That only makes it hotter.

>>162596971
Yes and...? Bio already look like an inbred anyway

>>162597091
Should be an alien.

>>162597091
>Why would an Ultimate Life Form be made into a Hedgehog? Wouldn't it make more sense to make it into a Human since we are the master species?
Wasn't Gerald inspired by the murals he found in the Mystic Ruins?

>>162597193
>master species

>>162597239
I think that's just headcanon.

>>162597091
Gerald had a thing for creating animal-related life forms, just like Eggman has a thing for creating animal-related robots. They must really like animals when they're under their control.

>>162597239
But is that really enough to turn it into a Hedgehog?

>>162597365
Considering how Shadow's quills look similar to the ones Super Sonic sports I think it's a fair conclusion

>>162597091
Only thing that makes Humans the master species is intelligence
If you gave Gorillas, Bears, or Tigers human-tier intelligence they would be biologically better than us.

>>162597583
>If you gave Gorillas, Bears, or Tigers human-tier intelligence they would be biologically better than us.
But they don't.

>>162597583
Well, that and our ability to use our body to do literally anything. And if our bodies can't do it, our bodies can build stuff to do it. Being able to walk upright allowed us to free our hands to do literally fucking anything.

>>162597687
You mean they don't have human-tier intelligence or do you mean they wouldn't be better than us?
If the former, no shit
If the latter, please explain further because the way I see it a society of intelligent bears would dominate Russia
>>162597784
>Well, that and our ability to use our body to do literally anything.
Very wrong
>And if our bodies can't do it, our bodies can build stuff to do it.
Because we're intelligent
>Being able to walk upright allowed us to free our hands to do literally fucking anything.
Explain how a Gorilla with human intelligence would not be better than a human.

>>162597091
>>162597239
>>162597365
According to Iizuka male hedgehogs go super.
I'm guessing they must have some kind of innate gene that makes them more receptive of Chaos Energy than other races. Gerald must have used that as the basis for Shadow.

>>162598008
>According to Iizuka male hedgehogs go super.
Will one female Hedgehog put a stop to the Chaos patriarchy?

>>162597937
>Explain how a Gorilla with human intelligence would not be better than a human.
Because their hands cannot do the same things humans can to the extent we can. And that is because they don't walk upright and have to walk on their hands. Go read a book about human evolution sometime, it'll answer all your questions

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>>162598149

>>162598149
Nope.

>>162598149
no

>>162598162
>Because their hands cannot do the same things humans can to the extent we can
How so? Because of slightly altered bone structure in the hands and slightly fatter hands? That doesn't limit them any more than a human with huge hands and sausage fingers.

>>162597937
>>162598162
>>162598382
We're not talking about literal real-world animals, we're talking about Sonic character animals which are humanoid, walk upright and have human-like hands. The only advantage humans have is they're generally taller and seem to be more numerous, at least in the games.

>>162598382
What this post sounds like to me is someone who has no clue about how human evolution worked and why bipedalism was so crucial to human development. Because here's an idea fucktard, the reason we were able to become so intelligent is because we got to stop walking on our damn hands everywhere

>>162598569
You still haven't explained why they would not be capable of doing as we do if they had the knowledge on how to. Try not spouting anecdotal sewage when attempting to make a point about something.
Also see >>162598502

>>162598149
A cat kinda got passed that fact, but only in another dimension.

>>162598795
Try being able to back up your retarded assertion that a Tiger with a human brain could do the same things humans do. Go ahead, I'll wait

>>162598818
Looks like the Sol Dimension is on the right side of the Super form.

>>162598818
He said female Hedgehog, anon.

>>162598889
He's not the same anon from earlier
Also I concede that you would at least need opposable thumbs, but I still think smart gorillas would be able to rival humans

>>162599085
Very well then

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>>162598889
A tiger Sonic character, which walks upright on two legs, has two arms with human-like five-fingered hands with opposable thumbs and has humanlike intelligence, would be able to do everything a human can that doesn't rely on being taller than 3'

>>162598949
Well, more like a burning form.

>>162598889
>changes argument from gorillas and apes to tigers because he knows his argument is as flimsy as wet bread
btfo

>>162598008
Sonic should be the only one allowed to go super or have an alternate form. If you give it to anyone else it cheapens it and makes Sonic less special

>>162600129
the Final Hazard fight was fucking hype

>>162600420
The music was, but the brand new OC having a fucking super form pushed him straight into Mary Sue status and undermined the main character, which is something no fucking game should ever do

>>162600501
Nah, the game built up their rivalry really well, so it was enjoyable to have them come together at the very end to save the day

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>>162571639
WE'RE ALL HEDGEHOGS NOW.

>>162600772
>Just as strong and fast as the main character
>Stupid convoluted backstory
>Edgy distant personality
>Turns out he's not so bad at the end and all the main characters respect him
>Everyone needs him to save the day
He's a total Mary Sue and I'm glad he's mocked nowadays because he fucking deserves it

>>162600950
He was a cocky nigger hedgehog that popped a stiffy when the Biolizard emerged, kicked its ass, and then teamed up with Sonic to kick the ARK that was coming OUT of its ass

>>162601183
That doesn't really rebuke my points. IF anything, teaming up with the MC to take down the big villain is something a lot of Mary Sue OCs do

>>162596852
Sonic was also written completely differently. He was an idiot who needed Sally to reel him in on a personal mission to save his uncle.

>>162601284
But it was fucking cool

>>162600950
>He's a total Mary Sue and I'm glad he's mocked nowadays because he fucking deserves it
He still has a strong following and one of the most popular characters in the franchise.

>>162600501
No, it works because that whole "Shadow being based on Super Sonic" theory makes sense of how he can turn super and he is basically an ultimate life form. Now Silver is who I don't get how he can turn super.

>>162601448
No it wasn't. It was fucking dumb.
>>162601505
That doesn't change the fact he's an awful character. Popularity=/= quality, or else Twilight would be called a literary classic
>>162601565
That theory doesn't change everything else about him that makes him a Mary Sue

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>>162601638
But it was fucking COOL

>>162601638
If Shadow is a Mary-Sue than Knuckles was a Mary-Sue with his introduction.

>>162601774
The kind of person who thinks Shadow or what he did was cool is the kind of person who thinks Linkin Park is a good band
>>162601823
I dunno anon, Knuckles got his ass kicked later on repeatedly and was tricked by the main villain. He also didn't have a convoluted backstory and wasn't as fast as Sonic. He's a balanced character

>>162601895
Lincoln Park is meh, I prefer Nickleback

>>162602001
I guess I overestimated the taste of Shadow fanboys

>>162600950
>Just as strong and fast as the main character
So are some other characters like Blaze and she's popular
>Stupid convoluted backstory
It's not even that convulted
>Edgy distant personality
He was cocky and a smug asshole before the Shadow the Hedgehog game came in
>Turns out he's not so bad at the end and all the main characters respect him
What's wrong with that? Can't a main character respect others?
>Everyone needs him to save the day
Not like the main character has to be the only one saving the day

You're entitled to your opinion on this character and all, but I disagree on everything you said.

>>162601895
>Stopped Super Sonic with ONE PUNCH.
>Gets the upperhand over Sonic throughout most of the game.
>Is the Guardian of the Master Emerald. The ultimate Chaos Emerald.
>Can go Super just like Sonic.
>Considered the "tougher" version of Sonic.

>>162602063
Im a Sallynigger, I just thought the bossfight was hype

>>162601638
Yes Shadow is a Mary Sue
Yes him teaming up at the end is hardo retardo
Yes him surviving the fall at the end was bumfuck asinine
But I can guarantee you the 10-13 year olds that played SA2 before any of the other games in the series thought it was absolutely radical.
Does that make his character or SA2's writing good? No, but it means that the game and its plot accomplished all that it tried to do.
I'm a classicfag myself, but if you're really complaining about the writing in these games you're just showing people that you care about it, which is not a message we should be sending in the context of a platformer about a blue hedgehog that eats chilli dogs.

>>162602179
Shadow did his job for a character in a kids game. He was considered fucking cool.

>>162602092
He never canonically went super, Sonic easily kicked his ass at the end, he always loses the Master Emerald, and is a fucking retard
>>162602125
OH, so you still like a Mary Sue, just one with tits
>>162602065
>Not like the main character has to be the only one saving the day
Why not? It's called Sonic the Hedgehog not Tails the Fox o whatever the fuck. He's the main character for a reason
>What's wrong with that? Can't a main character respect others?
Not one who tried to kill him and the rest of humanity for most of the time he knew them
>It's not even that convulted
Go over his backstory, then compare it to every other character up to that point. It's convoluted and dumb compared to those
>So are some other characters like Blaze and she's popular
And she's shit too, just less shit

>>162602372
no, I like sally and tits

>>162602430
>no, I like sally and tits
Like I said, a Mary Sue with tits

>>162602498
>Mary Sue

Which Sally are we talking about? And I never really picked up on any sort of Mary Sue like writing in her character.

>>162602372
>Not one who tried to kill him and the rest of humanity for most of the time he knew them
But Shadow literally teamed up with him to save humanity. It's respectable that he went so far to save something he wanted to destroy. Plus, Sonic is a chill Hedgehog like that, he doesn't hold grudges.

>>162602498
yes?
What are you implying

>>162602667
>Which Sally are we talking about? And I never really picked up on any sort of Mary Sue like writing in her character.
All of them
>Leads the main character around like a puppet
>Is the MC's one true love despite him being adverse to love in general
>Takes down a dictator with her leadership despite being 15 and having no powers
>The world revolves around her and her bullshit

>>162602372
>Why not? It's called Sonic the Hedgehog not Tails the Fox o whatever the fuck. He's the main character for a reason
Even main character need someone to help them save a day
>Not one who tried to kill him and the rest of humanity for most of the time he knew them
Sonic befriended a bunch of characters who tried to kill him.
>Go over his backstory, then compare it to every other character up to that point. It's convoluted and dumb compared to those
I've checked it a bunch of time, It's simple enough to explain it in a few sentences
>And she's shit too, just less shit
Then you probably hate everyone after the Classic era

>>162602667
All the Sallys except Post-Reboot!Sally and Fleetway!Sally are Mary-Sues.

>>162602820
>Then you probably hate everyone after the Classic era
No. Characters like Big and Yacker are fine because they don't undermine the main character and have their own unique niche
>Even main character need someone to help them save a day
But at the end of the day it should be SONIC who saves the day, not Sonic and someone else

Can you faggots stop replying to obvious bait?

>>162602941
PINK BELLY

>>162602941
Just because I dislike Shadow for being an absolute shit character doesn't make me a shitposter

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>>162602941
Oh shit, you might be on to something.

>>162601565
>Now Silver is who I don't get how he can turn super.

Cuz hes Shadow and Amys son :^)

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>>162602941
I love Sally Acorn, and if you do not then you are a threat to this establishment and and enemy of all mankind.

>>162603148
So Amy lived nearly 200 years into the future, & fell in love with someone other than Sonic?

Nonsense.

>>162602923
>undermine
You have something against main characters being the supporters?
Excuse me for using TV Tropes
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SupportingProtagonist

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How does this image make you feel /sthg/?

>>162603306
>You have something against main characters being the supporters?
Yes, because that's what the SUPPORTING CAST is for, to support the main character

>>162603251
no you see Amy has a cock and Shadow is a sea horse not a Hedgehog so Shadow gave birth to Silver like a 185 years in the future or so or something then got sealed away, it makes sense.

>>162602941
Discussion isn't bait, anon.

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>>162603369

>Sparky Ring

>>162603418
WHY CANT I GO TO SEAHORSE SEAHELL

>>162603369
What should I feel?

>>162603148
You mean Shadow and ROUGE's son.

>>162603420
And shitposting isn't discussion.

>>162603519
no shut up you idiot ian said that since sonic parrels dbz his parents would be shadow and amy okay? rouge is like launch so that just wouldnt work rouge is just a whore anyways who probably sells herself for jewels

Give me one game, cartoon, movie, or other medias that has the main character supporting a different character that was done well.

>>162603621
>It's shitposting to discuss Sonic characters
Enlighten me Swatbot, what ISN'T shitposting?
>>162603674
None, because the main character of any work taking a backseat to a fucking supporting character has always been a shitty idea. The supporting cast is there to SUPPORT the main character, not be the stars of the show.

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>>162603519
>>162603654
Shitty head-canons eveRYWHERE.

Which will be worse
The Sonic movie, the Pikachu movie, or the Monster Hunter movie?

>>162603835
n-no shadamy is canon so shut up you big fat bitch or else i will call ian on you.

>>162603894
Sonic movie, easily.

>>162603654
>ian said
You know our Teeth Lord Iizuka has the final commandment!

>>162604003
I'd say MH and Sonic would tie in terms of how terrible they will be.

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>>162603929

>>162603746
>What is the entirety of JoJo Part 4.
Koichi got just as much screentime, if not more than the main character of the part, Josuke, and the story only benefitted from that. Not to mention, Rohan, Okyasu, and Kira all stand on their own as characters. Hell, Rohan even got his own spinoffs.

>>162603894
Have not heard of the Monster Hunter or Pikachu movies so forgive me if I am unaware of some part of said movies that make it sound super bad.

Pokemon has a good track record when it comes to movies so I think this "Pikachu" movie has a above average chance of being semi-decent.

Monster Hunter is a 25/75 chance of being either pretty nice or really fucking bad imo

Sonic easily has the highest chance of being some shitty celebrity rap music movie with poo jokes or some shit.

>>162603372
Main character being part of the supporting cast isn't so bad as long as they aren't too out of focus or are basically jobbing to other characters. That's why I like Shadow and Blaze because while we get to learn about their backstory, they didn't make Sonic look like a fool when fighting him or working together. Sonic still got enough screentime anyway in both SA2 and Rush games.

>>162603894
All of them?

>>162601386
He wasn't an idiot, but he was headstrong and acted without thinking, causing him to get into trouble a lot. imo that's a perfectly valid way to write his character, especially in the days where 1 was the only Sonic game on the market and the only thing they knew about 2 was Tails existed.

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>>162603746
Whatever floats your boat, anon

what up my 'hawgz

>>162604116
Heres the run down
>Pikachu movie
An adaptation of Detective Pikachu, pretty much a story of a boy meeting a talking Pikachu who's pretty much danny devito as a detective and helps him solve various crimes in the Pokemon world
>Monster Hunter movie
A average wise cracking joe sick of his boring life gets teleported to a magical land where they hunt monsters they want to capture the "comedy" of marvel movies

>>162604246
>>162604483
......Mom? Dad? Please stop fighting.

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>>162604246
>>162604483

You wankers done?

>>162604359
I don't think /sthg/ is having a good day

>>162604649
Go to your damn room, you fucking mistake.

At this point it's just two shitposters screaming at each other trying to suck in other people as collateral.

>>162604378
Oh shit they are making a Detective Pikachu movie? if its CGI or full on animated then it has a pretty good chance of being a solid 7/10 or great 8/10 imo

Monster Hunter movie sounds like a shit premise though, I mean if they wanna go for something lighter hearted or whatever then couldn't they go for something kinda like Hiccup? not some sort of monster sympathiser but instead someone who is considered weak or unable to hunt Monsters like the rest of his clan or some shit and its a coming of age story where he becomes a legendary hunter and it ends with it panning out and he is telling his story to grandkids or some shit.

Granted I know absolutely nothing about Monster Hunter so I probably spewed some serious cancer just then that would never fit with its mythos but its just a mediocre idea.

>>162604767
Pikachu is going to be live action/animated, made by the same company who did warcraft. all their original pokemon movie scripts got scrapped because they were too edgy and featured Red
MH is being made by the RE movie team just to make it worse.

>>162604680
is it ever?

>>162604909
It was a good thread a couple days ago.

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Holy fuck did the Comics kill Boco's parents? He's the reason I hate Sonic threads on /co/

Have an image so I'm still technically on topic.

>>162604909
It was pretty chill the last few days.

>>162605053
>reading Boco's posts

>>162605053
The only reason I go to /co/ nowadays is for wednesday storytimes. Otherwise I stick to here and /vp/

>>162605053
How are you on topic, anon?

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>>162605053
He hates all the good waifus

>>162605053

Boco hates the comics?

>>162605239
I like this guy.

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Oh.

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>>162605239
>All of this.

>>162605258
Because Amy is in them I guess.

>>162605465
i get the feeling boco tried to get a girl to dress up as amy and she turned him down hard and now he has a hateboner for amy

>>162605465
thats like hating a mario rpg for having peach

Glad I came back to this place. Now I remember why I used to like it here.

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>>162602620

>>162605665
But this place is shitty right now.

>>162605592
who the fuck would wear amy's outfit?

>>162605465
no he hates SatAM

>>162605735
But we are fast when we are shitty. It's only been 7 hours and we're almost at 300 posts.

>>162605735
thats what he means

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>>162605465
How could one pink hedgehog cause so much ass devastation amongst people?

>>162604905
oh...

Well then, sounds like all of the movies are going to be shit, I was really hoping for the Pikachu movie to be good, then again there is always the chance that it will turn out alright, seriously though they were going to do a edgy plot with Red? they must of pulled out the most cancerous Redgy fans in the fandom to write scripts.

What was it going to be about? Detective Pikachu investigating who killed Blue's Raticate and Red turns out to be the culprit who is some sort of emotionless sociopath who retreats to Mt Silver as a fugitive to evade the law?

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>>162605749
my gf

>>162605826
We can be shitty and slow too.

>>162605857
because her entire purpose is to serve as a possible love interest to series with an evergrowing share of ships?

>>162605857
Because she's prettier than Sally and she acts like that girl you liked in school who always went for the Chad kid.

>>162605223
>Krystal
>good
anon...

>>162605930
The red movie was them going to have a story about Red getting his first Pokemon and going on an adventure but it gets edgy and forced drama about his mom being with Rocket and sex scene with Misty or some shit and Pokemon getting killed in battle, Nintendo stepped in and told them if they cant make a PG Pokemon movie then they have to make a Detective Pikachu movie.

>>162605987
But Amy is involved with the only canon ship in the franchise.

>>162606059
What the fuck.

>>162606009
dont start

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>>162602620

>>162606110
I think he's saying that she triggers people who don't ship that pairing.

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>>162605735

>>162606059
Whoa, are you serious?

>>162606176
bingo

>>162606059
wait, so his mom was gonna have sex with Misty?

>>162606432
No Red was, the whole movie was a cluster fuck.
If it made you feel better the writer cried during his pitch and Nintendo still said no.

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>>162606564
he had sex and death in his script and thought they would say yes?

>>162606702
He called it light hearted.

>>162606564
Would you happen to have a source for this? I would enjoy reading about it further.

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>>162571639
>last game played Total War: WARHAMMER
I don't think any character from Sonic would do well in the Old World. The assholes in the Old World can barely handle the Old World

>>162586793
>>162586986
>>162587162
>>162587347
>>162587541
where?? all the sites i go to are down

>>162606932
Previews son. See >>162586227

>>162606059
>>162606432
>>162606564
>Red.
>Misty.
Do they even know each other like that canonically to warrant this? I can understand fan bullshit with Ash. But Red?

>>162603369
Kind of sad that Butchs actual cartoons aren't drawn as loosely as his vanilla drawings. They still have his angular style, but look more dynamic and animated.

>>162607136
mabye he went the ol logic that red is just the game ver of ash or some shit

>>162607136
Game wise I don't think so no, in the Pokemon Adventures manga I think she is a love interest for him.

>>162607342
Who's a better love interest to Red/Ash?

>>162605053
Who is Boco? aside from the X robot. I hear him mentioned all the time

>>162607782
the xy girl

>>162607782
imo Yellow for Red in Adventures and for Ash I would personally go for either Anabel or Dawn, Serena seems to be a popular choice right now but I personally dislike their chemistry, I think Lana Mallow and Lillie in the latest season could all have some good potential but its only 6 episodes in so we will see later on.

>>162607798
the worst tripfag on the site on par with speedy, thedude, and marielx

>>162607782
Don't care for Ash. Leaf for Red.

>>162604905
>>162605930
>>162606059
>>162606123
>>162606232
>>162606432
>>162606564
>>162606702
>>162606771
>>162606846
>>162607136
>>162607298
>>162607342
>>162607782
>>162607869
>>162607951
>>162608039
I highly doubt this is real. Not only is there nothing about this online, but the script is being written by Alex Hirsch and Nicole Periman, aka the people behind Guardians of the Galaxy, Flapjack, Fish Hooks, and Gravity Falls. Do any of you honestly believe that they'd write a sex scene or a gritty plot for a kids film?

/sthg/ - Pokemon General

>>162607027
oh its only a prewiew thats gay

>>162608145
This is about a script Max Landis pitched, those guys are working on detective pikachu.

>>162608324
>Max Landis
Oh, ok, now everything makes sense. The edgy fuck

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>>162608253
riley you think everything is gay

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according to sonic battle when sonic fights he uses breakdancing moves

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>>162608638
not this

>>162608861
Sonic a showoff.

>>162608861
But that's a Sonic Advance 3 sprite.

>>162608324
>>162608367
That's still false. Landis wanted to make a sweet, emotional film in order to both push himself into new, non-edgy territory and show Hollywood that the simplest solution (make everything a dark, gritty action film) doesn't have to be the only solution. It was supposed to be a lighthearted action film starring Red, his parents, and Blue. Nowhere in his pics were there 'sex scenes' or 'grit'.

>>162609014
Landis pls go

>>162608979
I bet he criticizes too.

>>162609085
I don't have to be Landis to dislike misinformation.

>>162609184
We both know Nintendo wouldn't turn down his script if it was lighthearted remake of the games.

>>162609240
It was turned down so Nintendo could use their new film to promote Detective Pikachu.

>>162609370
Why would Nintendo promote that in the US?

>>162608892
Oh shit, Shadow looking content.

That's adorable

>>162609424
For an upcoming game release. Kids see Detective Pikachu in theaters and they want the game.

>>162609524
I doubt anyone will care about a late eshop port to a 3ds in 2017

>>162609621
kek

>>162609579
Nintendo has made plenty of questionable decisions. Even so, what makes you think Landis lied about pitching an edgy Pokemon flm.