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put some clothes on jaina you'll catch a chill
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>>162547234
i'll warm her up with my peenus weenus
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>>162547234
She's an ice wizard, she's already got a body temperature so low that you can freeze your tongue to her like a metal pole in winter.
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sorry for the small as fuck pic. i browse in 75% size.
just posting this to trigger the fags.
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Here lies /hsg/, he never ranked up
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>>162547278
>>162547314
i don't think banging her is going to be a good idea guys
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>>162547342
>December 29th
Fuck I have like 1k stacked but that's it. Gotta hurry up.
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Hi, I'm new to hearthstone and I have a question:

Why are control players always salty? Were they ever not salty?
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>>162547234

t. Mr Freeze.
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BEST HUSBAND
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>>162547560
in their heads they are playing something refined and patrician like chess and they get angered when they realize you can just hit the enemy on the face and win in 5 turns instead of 30
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>>162547560
'Cause aggressive decks are good and that makes them really mad.
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>>162547560

They view having to pick between 10 cards as more skillful than 3.

They are right

They get mad when they lose to the rush decks.

They are fucking pussies who need to deal with it.
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>>162547645
are these the lows we must stoop to for the love of cock?

blizzard please manufacture higher quality hearthstone husbandos
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>>162547127
Jaina is CUTE!
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>>162547565
Play Shamanverse
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>>162547560
They want other players to play like they want. Hence the "control" aspect.
When people refuse to oblige they get mad like the babies they are.
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>>162547278

The iceman cometh.
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>tfw honorable control decks are dead
It's only cancerous Renocucks or filthy aggroshitters left at this point. There is no more middle ground anymore; your games are either 3 minute long face battles, or they are 30 minutes fatigue mirror matches. Where have all the good decks gone?

There is no longer any opportunity for outplaying your opponent, every game is decided by who gets Reno first or who had the better Pirate draw.

None of us asked for any of this.
We are the beautiful ones.
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>>162547127
>Dat face
Ruined
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>>162547560
>Why are control players always salty?

>>162547918
>filthy aggroshitters

/Thread
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Make me into a Hearthstone card
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>>162547971
...really?
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>>162547776
satyr meat is too good for the likes of you twinkyelflover
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>we care about cards that limit the design space
>create a mechanic that punishes every single control deck for the next 2 years
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>>162547560
Everybody gets salty anon. Control players get salty because aggro just hits their face and kills them before they can play their 6+ mana fun cards. Aggro players get salty when their deck runs out of steam by turn 5 and Reno decks finagle a chain of taunts and heals.

For whatever reason players of both playstyles think they're somehow better/smarter/more clever/more deserving to win than the other for playing a fast/slow deck and get an inflated ego over Wizard Poker Coin Flip Simulator 5000

Just take it in stride, play what you like and laugh at the salt.
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>>162548045
What the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>162548165
Jade Golems probably.
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>>162548006
well since there is the word random in it its very possible it will be
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>>162548196
I hope not cause he's wrong in that case since control decks are kings right now
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>>162548283
>only "control" deck left is renolock
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>>162548037
i don't mind masculine or monstrous but friend? look at how gross his fucking neck is. also i think his entire back is hair

you can do better
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>>162548384
why is renolock allowed to be combo also
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>>162548006
I cant wait for the day where I'll finally make a REAL deck with:
2x Dirty Rat
2x Hymn to Tourach variant
And all other disruption possible like Loatheb

This will probably never happen in HS... but a man can dream.
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>>162548253
Making your opponent discard will never ever be a mechanic in Hearthstone. It's too "feelbad".
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>>162548384
>only
Thats fine. Migrating from control warrior to renolock is refreshing.
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>>162548482
Not until they add Fenrir.
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>>162548165
Jade, if I had to guess?

Jade Shamans don't have infinite golems like a druid, or shadowstep shenanigans like a rogue, but they still can have Claws x2, Lightning x2, Chieftan x2, Spirit x2, Aya x 1, which lets them drop six 5/5 and larger minions over the course of a game. That's a lot of extra meat that the super-control 'remove every threat the enemy can play' decks have to chop through.
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>>162548006
Here i made it more hearthstonelike for you
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>>162548482
see you in three days
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>>162548441
>also i think his entire back is hair
that is hot though
but please, do show a specimen that you like
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>>162548482
I'm too stupid to understand that game, I just need to stick with what I know reno and shaman
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>shadowflame sylvanas clears my board and steals my 15/15 lightlord.

This is fair.
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>>162548818
>15/15 lightlord.

This is fair
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>not running Sacrifical Pact to instantly kill Renocucks when they play Jaraxxus
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>>162548818
>15/15 lightlord.
hnnnng now this is a win condition I can get behind
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>>162548818
>How dare he boardwipe!
>How dare he steal my big timmy minion!
You sound like those new magic players (usually teen) that gets upset when their opponent deal with their things.
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why can you go face with weapons anyway? this is so retarded
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I feel like this card could be really good in aggro decks. Insane card draw, good value and a spell magnet.

I wish he was 4/5 so he could survive swipe, flamestrike and shadowbolt.
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>>162548749
a garrosh is fine too
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Sometimes I wonder if I'm bad at the game, or if I'm just hamstringing myself by not buying fifty packs every time a new expansion comes out.

I like hearthstone, but I make a face when I see decks that are running 6+ Legendaries.
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>>162549101
>Why can you attack someone with a weapon
Really makes me think
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>>162549012

No problem with either of those.

Both at the same time grinds my gears though.
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>>162549157
>I like hearthstone, but I make a face when I see decks that are running 6+ Legendaries.
Anon the game as been out for 3 years.
6+Legendary is nothing
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I have:
golden Greenskin
classic Mukla
WIIINDS
Onyxia
Anomalus
Beardo
Shaku
Knuckles
White Eyes
every card from every adventure
and 1600 dust

What should I dust? I'm thinking of crafting either shaman (patches, small-time x2, thalnos, lava burst x2, aya) or warrior (patches, small-time x2, leeroy). Which one is less dependant on luck?
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>>162549326
I've only been playing since around the time League of Explorers was announced.
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>>162549143
indeed he is
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>>162549507
You yes but not everyone.
You should expect to play vs "completed" decks.
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>>162549192
>weapons are so broken they can ignore board and push face for million damage every turn
>b-b-but they're weapons xd
really makes you wonder
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how do I increase my winrate vs reno?
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Why do I keep playing this fucking shitty game when I'm obviously so bad at it.
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>>162549696
That as nothing to do wit h what "weapon" are.
What you're talking about is balance. Its logical for weapons to be able to attack anything.
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/lifecoach1981/LuckyHamsterStoneLightning

why arent you bootcamping with a buddy?
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>>162549785
Priest is bad, just play aggro shaman and you can be good at the game
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>>162549696
if you'd been hurt by the immune during turn/unlimited attacks during turn combo clearing your board maybe i'd understand

but just tech in some weapon removal if the very concept of hitting face gets you so bad
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>>162549792
Brode has been completely willing to throw away logic in service of 'game balance' before, saying it's logical weapons can attack any target isn't an argument
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does he have reno

y/n

place them bets
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>>162549157
You're hamstringing yourself. This game is F2P in name only. It's a TCG, you're supposed to buy at least a few packs (50/set seems like a fair number).
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>>162549491
Golden Greenskin.
He's objectively garbage for the next couple of years in standard. I don't think he's used in any pirate deck.
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>>162550002
>Brode said
I wouldn't go that low
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By the internal game logic that weapons give your character an attack stat, allowing them to attack as if they were a Minion, it makes sense that they can attack any target.
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>>162550096
Of course.
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>>162550175
The problem is, even if not spending money is holding me back, what if I buy 50 packs and discover that I am -also- bad at the game?
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As a player that highly prefers combo and control decks, I want to say that you're all full of shit. With every new expansion, the early decks are those that are reliable and more consistent than the others, and the range of aggro decks that goes from outright face and plain aggressive have always had that on their part. Making a control deck requires a deep knowledge of the state of the art of the game, to cover the widest variety of situations while having the highest possible consistency, value and execution.

Thing is, when you play aggro, you're hardly going to have a dead draw, let alone a card that won't be of any help for your purpose, as mostly, if not all, cards are going to be damage-oriented. There is certainly some math and knowledge involved in dealing the most damage, picking trades and making decisions. When you play control or combo, there's not only a concrete possibility you're going to have cards you simply can't play, you are playing from a defensive position in which success is dictated by the availability of having an answer, AND having the correct one at that. This is best illustrated with Zoolock and the old Face Hunter. Both decks could consistently be beaten with the right answers, but they were much more consistent in requiring one to survive.

This is why pro-active play is always and will always be preferred in Hearthstone: it doesn't have any downsides, you push your shit whatever the case, and it's up to the opponent to survive.

In time, the meta adjusts and refines for both aggro and control, but the amount of data you need to figure out the correct deck to have a fair chance at controlling the game is enormous and requires more time.

I've been playing mostly Rogue later. Raptor jade n'zoth is an archetype we have yet to figure out, and the most success I've had has been with tight low-curve combo decks that can reliably pull off a "win or lose" situation for your opponent, such as ye-old-N'Zoth Rogue.

TL:DR: give it time
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>>162549763
Do you try to bait reno or do you go face like mad?
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>>162549896
>just tech in lol xd
this is such a retarded argument
do you also tech in eater of secrets? do you also tech in ysera just in case game is long? do you also tech in a taunt just in case enemy is zoo? do you also tech in stormwind champion just in case you'll need extra stats to push through?
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>>162550347
>>162550096

he had it
how the fuck am i supposed to win this match up ree
https://hsreplay.net/replay/cbkF6vjP28sxkgCxcgbLsZ
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>>162550480
>he records his replays and judges his "plays" in hearthstone and in rank 9
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>Guacboy
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>>162550402
Then get better. Once you have a half decent card pool, you can experiment a little, and figure out how to play with them.

Playing without buying anything is like playing chess without rooks. You can win if your opponent is bad, but it removes so many strategies that it's not really going to help you win once you add them in. The only way to learn is to play the full game.
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>>162550575
Not him, but that thing just automatically records all your games so you can watch the replays
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>>162550402
the only thing that you are gonna discover after you open those packs is that you wasted your money
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nothing more fun than playing jade druid vs "the strongest deck of the meta"™. "the strongest deck of the meta" has no fuckin threats,what is this meme.
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>>162550878
Shame jade druid loses to every other deck on ladder because of how slow it is
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>>162550968
yea it loses to everything thats why im rank 6 you fucking faggot
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>>162550878
thats a wrong photo

>>162550968
it doesnt lose to anything outright, the way i play it. i have 2x innervate, 2x living roots, 2x aspirant, 2x wrath
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>>162547127
>winning consistently in arena takes more skill
>arena is more random than constructed
>Ben Brode says RNG increases the skill cap

Threadly reminder that Ben is right and if you complain about RNG its just because you're bad.
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>>162551418
Hearthstone isn't a pay to win game. Here, let me tell you how. I've been playing since the BETA, and I have never had an issue beating anyone! Yea, sure, I have almost every legendary available for the heroes I like to play, but I didn't use a cent on the game! You know how I got them? Playing this whole time, for 4 hours a day every day (except Sunday for service). You don't need money to win at the game. You just need to have skill.
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>>162551220
Are the Living Roots super important? I cut them (I only started playing Druid this expansion, and I don't have Fandrel for the combo value), swapping them out for Mark of the Wild.
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>Ice Block will never be nerfed
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>>162551548
... That seems pretty irrelevant to my comment anon but OK. Good for you?
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>>162551795
>complaining about mage in this meta
?????????
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>>162550418
Good write up. I think decks are better described as pro-active or reactionary, instead of the MtG memespeak, but that might just be me.

>Making a control deck requires a deep knowledge of the state of the art of the game, to cover the widest variety of situations while having the highest possible consistency, value and execution.

This most control players netdeck like mad, this why they shit the bed whenever the meta changes and new cards are released, their decks haven't been updated with proper countermeasures.
While aggro players can take a good core of cards and customize it quite a bit, since he's the one defining what the control player will react to.
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>>162551903

Freeze Mage will never be a fun deck to play against because of how bullshit secrets are. If you aren't carrying VERY SPECIFIC counters to secret play, you're going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it.

The deck being shit doesn't make it healthy.
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>>162549121
I played him a bunch in egg druid, used it to climb from 16 to 6 and honestly he wasn't bad. He's no Jeeves but he drew a decent amount of cards or ate hard removal/burn spells that could have gone face which is actually very relevant v other aggro decks.

Deck stopped working in higher ranks but not because of Genzo.
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>>162552045
I will have to agree with your post friend, somewhat.

Ooze is not understatted whatsoever. Kezan Mystic is, however.

It's a tiny bit unfair.
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>>162551585
Currently I'm running:

Wrath x2
Innervate x2
Swipe x2
Mark of the Wild x2
Wild Growth x2
Jade Blossom x2
Jade Idol x2
Moonglade Portal x2
Nourish x2
Druid of the Claw x2
Jade Behemoth x2
Jade Spirit x2
Coldlight Oracle x2
Ancient of War x2
Gadgetzan Auctioneer x2

I'm planning on swapping the oracles for Azure Drakes. Anything else I should change or cut?
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>>162552343
post butts
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>>162551548
>4 hours a day for 4 years

It's nice that you could dedicate your life to the game but for the rest of us, including those who haven't played since Beta, the best bet is to just drop some dollarydoos and be done with it. $50 on MSOG is like 5 hours of work at a shitty job or raking leaves for a few homes if you're underage. Or you could grind daily quests for 2-4 months for the same amount of cards... I guess.

I'm not sure how you don't seem to understand that not everyone who plays is just like you, able to either dedicate several thousands of hours of grinding for gold or joined early enough to passively generate enough gold to buy everything. Telling someone who's missing cards that they just have to play from Beta like you to have everything is pretty... retarded.
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>>162552294
maybe cut the marks for feral rages. but just testing to say if they will be better. its just they are less board dependant and can give even more life if needed
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>>162551585
you really want fandral.

so when you have fandral, and 2x auctioneer, and i also put in 2x arcane giants, and theres superaggro everywhere, so i really need the living roots with all that.
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>>162552045
what do you boyz think of this concept
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>>162552550
I'm pretty sure that comment is satire.
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>>162552045
>If you aren't carrying VERY SPECIFIC counters to secret play, you're going to lose and there's nothing you can do about it.
If that was true freeze mage would be a good deck because no one is bringing counters to secrets

>The deck being shit doesn't make it healthy.
Pirate warrior and aggro shaman isn't healthy and they are actually good decks. Complaining about bad decks that you run into maybe twice every 100 games is pretty stupid. Mage is also currently one of the worst classes, down there with paladin and hunter.
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>>162552659
That's a pretty big assumption...

But anyhow a good player can get 12 wins with any deck.
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>draft awful arena deck
>at 1-3
>face shaman
>has double flametongue, fire ele, 4 mana 7/7, etc etc
>wonder how this guy is same score as me
>he makes babby tier mistakes, allows me and my shitty deck multiple comebacks
>in the end can't keep up with him because his cards have too much value
>lose
>add him because i want to talk shit
>he doesn't accept until 10 minutes later only to say "r u salty" and then quickly deletes me because he knows he played like a potato

JumpyWizard, if you're here I just want to let you know that you're a shieldbearer. That's all, thank you.
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>Reno Mage

why do people play this garbage when it's inferior to Reno Warlock and even Reno Priest in every way?
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>>162552659
4-3 at best
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>>162552645
I don't have him, don't have the dust I'd need to craft him, and I'd probably prioritize Aya over him even if I did have the dust. Kind of a moot point.

You make a good point about the anti-aggro potential of living roots, though.

Arcane golems are an interesting idea. I'm not sure what I would cut for them, though. THe Druids of the Claw? The Moonglade Portals? The Ancients of War?
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>>162552659
whoops, i have my full name in there. no hackerino pls. i don't have a facebook or anything
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>>162552834
>But anyhow a good player can get 12 wins with any deck.
'no'
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>>162552724
Reno mage is good and tempo mage is still total bullshit when they draw the perfect opener. Mage is fine. Nowhere near Paldin or Hunter levels of bad.
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>>162552834
>But anyhow a good player can get 12 wins with any deck.
not remotely true
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>>162552616
I'll swap them in and see what I think. Thanks.
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>>162552659
>>162552946
Say goodbye to your bank account and social security number, Stuart Herrera
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>>162552950
>>162553059
Why because arena is so random? That just means it takes more skill git gud fags
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>>162553046
Reno mage is the worst of the reno decks and tempo mage is bad. Reno mage is probably the only playable deck and that is at best t3. Mage is definitely down there with paladin and hunter
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>>162549491
dust shitskin, he's unplayable trash and they have printed common cards better than him

leeroy and thalnos are safe crafts as they will always be relevant and used in lots of different decks. You are also missing rag which is good in almost everything. Aya is pretty good. Patches imo is a meme that will phase out in a bit, you dont even need him or the pirate synergy to play the aggro or jade shaman lists.
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>>162552906
>>162552834
currently at 2-0 btw, wish me luck in the rest of my run
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>>162552892
Mage is fun, and there are people who have Solia but not Raza/Jaraxxus.
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>>162552946
>>162553170
>git gud
>no hackerino pls
Since when did children browse this general?
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playing dragon priest doing ok queue into renolock

hurray 20 minutes lose a star!
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>>162553189
torch tempo is still doing good for me
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>>162552936
it depends. i actually now see i only have 1 arcane giant, i cut one out. i might try to get second back in cause i play so many cheap spells.

based on my games, i'd want fandral over aya, hes that useful. in any druid deck.
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>>162553320
>playing dragon priest
Why? Priest is garbage. Just play aggro shaman like everyone else
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>>162549491
lul, all of these except WINDS and White Eyes are absolutely garbage, why do you even have them? Well Onyxia is just borderline garbage and Knuckles might be good if you build a whole deck around it (so its not good.)
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>>162553189
Reno Mage is better than Reno Priest v Reno Lock because it has more burst. Personally I think its better v aggro too. I don't think its the worst Reno deck at all its just not as fun/interesting as Reno Priest.

Tempo mage is tempo mage, as long as flame waker exists it can steal games. I'm not saying its a tier 1 deck but its sure as hell not paladin tier.
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>>162552892
I... actually want to make a Reno Dragon Mage. Pulled Kazakus and Solia and want to give Dragonlord a home this expansion. Mage has enough stalls and removal to pull it off I guess.

It's probably going to be Tier F but of I can get one win then I'll be satisfied :-)
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>>162553398
You run Darnassus Aspirant over Wild Growth? Huh. Why?
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Actually winning games in ranked with Reno Dragon Hunter.
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>>162553598
probably facing a lot of aggro
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>>162551585
>and I don't have Fandrel for the combo value
>playing druid

choose one
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>>162553598
Because she is cute
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>>162553661

Have you considered that Reno Dragon is just a broken combination?
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>>162550185
I'm surprised he's not used more, he's a bloodsail cultist with no condition
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>>162553598
Vs aggro a body on t1/t2 is better than playing WG, followed by your opponent dropping a threat and then you having to respond to it while also shuffling your idols or whatever else.

At least that's what I would assume. Don't really play Drood
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>>162553661
>get raped trying to make paladin work
>play a meme tier dragon burgle rogue some anon shitposted here right before MSG
>streak 10 games

ayyyyy
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>>162553812
he didnt, all hunter players are proven retards
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>>162553479
Because my luck has not allowed me to open any better legends.
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>this is what blizzard is spending our millions on

https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/808372203032936448
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>>162549491
>>162554186
don't you know in this collectible card game you are not supposed to collect
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>>162553598
wild growth didnt work out. it was too greedy to ramp that much or to expect to get 2 cards with auctioneer of it, i already have a gazillion spells. and jade blossom.

i think i said it - the gameplay is to keep up with opponent, hoard your cheep /choose spells as much as you can, and then boom - insane turn with auctioneer or fandral.
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>>162553938
>meme tier dragon burgle rogue some anon shitposted here right before MSG
you mean, this one?
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>>162554251
My friends aren't rich enough to get into this game
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>>162554251
>https://twitter.com/PlayHearthstone/status/808372203032936448
am i too old to understand this meme?
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>>162554186

youre buying shit packs obviously youre not going to get good legends

you also have a free legend of your choice and another 2400 dust, and probably at least 5 other epics you will never use, not to mention golden epics/rares which worth a ton of dust, so you have 2 more legendaries free of choice, that makes it 3 legendaries and most viable decks dont even need one
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>>162552654
Should be a battle cry.
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I want to have anal sex with kazakus even tbough im a girl
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>>162554343
yes that one, though i switched some cards around since. blackwing corruptor is too fucking good. thanks for the memes anon
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>>162554251
TAKE IT GUAC BOY
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>>162554740
glad I could help someone with meme decks
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>>162554697
Kezan Mystic has that though

if it's deathrattle, it makes the opponent (freeze mage) question whether they kill it or not
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Do I pull the trigger /hsg/?
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>>162555170
make it golden
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>>162555170
you are not good enough to play rogue anon
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>>162554674
>you also have a free legend of your choice

If you mean the welcome bundle - that's random. It was WINDS for me.
The packs that came with it contained only 1 epic and 240 dust.
>>
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>>162555386
reno for the memes
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tfw TGT is going to end soon and I can disenchant my golden Mistcaller without feeling bad
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>>162555375
>keeping golden greenskin

dusting golden legendaries give you 1600 dust
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why?
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>>162555386
Reno obviously
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Is it even worth it to keep opening classic packs for exactly the last 4 leggos and 4 epics I want from them, I think at this point MSG packs will give me higher dust value

After my classic pity timer got used on a dupe legendary I'm wondering if now I just save dust and craft what I need.
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>>162555594
xcom2
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>>162555594
cookie clicker
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>>162555386
Dude, there's a beast and you're a hoontah.
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>>162555386

Reno 100%. How is that even a question ?!
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>>162555386
>playing hunter in arena
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>>162555594
Dragon's Dogma
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>>162555594
shadowverse
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our girl Elewis and our guy pavel are on Lifecoach's stream right now
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>>162555594
demon's souls
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>>162553380
t_ WutFace
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>>162555594
Digimon World 3
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>>162555594
Soul Sacrifice Delta
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DupDupDup KKona
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How do you tell a bot?
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>>162555589
You open packs for common/rare completion only. Once you have 90% of the commons and rares in the classic set, you shouldn't open any more unless you have 90% of the commons and rares from all the sets.
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This is what generation Z does in their free time. It's the most cancerous, trivial piece of shit game ever made. When I was a kid at least we played games that required some amount of focus, thinking, and cooperation. You can play this fucking shit while jerking off and streaming it on the cancer-tier website known as twitch.tv without thinking a single difficult thought, designed for a generation of retarded lazy fatasses with collective ADHD, severe attention needs, and the attention span of a four year old.

The world is going to go straight to hell when generation Z grows up. They're kids who grew up with social media, an entirely digitalized life, everything handed to them on a silver platter, without any experience whatsoever of actually doing something outside of their fantasy world of video games and porn. A generation coddled to hell in the so-called "education system" and by retarded leftist parents born with brain damage due to their hippie parents doing drugs in the 70s.
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>>162557318
i agree
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>get insanely angry at the game and your opponent so you squelch them
>you can still see their player frame highlight red
>you know exactly what they are doing
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>>162557318
/thread
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>>162557318
>you need to dedicate your life to a video game or it's cancer!!
>i have autism!!
>>
Reminder that renolock is the most skillful deck that OUR guy Reynad used to become a GOD of hearthstone.
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>not even playing to farm gold
>see 'you've already earned 100 gold today'
>feel compelled to stop playing
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>>162557589
>Posting lewd
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he jumped
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>>162558026
And nothing of value was lost.
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>>162556416
>The shittiest of the DW franchise
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>>162558579
trying too hard.

altough if you're talking about the DS/PSP/PSVita games you could be right, I only played the Ps1 games.
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>druid gets the best class legendary two expansions in a row
>mage and warlock gets dogshit twice in a row
>hunter gets value legends in a non value class
>priest gets memeshit
>the rest gets middling legends, not worth to craft

and of course, i get the warlock and priest ones from packs
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>>162554345
I actually like the idea of something like this
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>>162558026
What? Source?
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Holy shit, 2 leggos in one pack. Who are they?
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>>162559225
Krul and Solia.
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>>162559225
Goy and golden Goy.
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>>162559225
Finja and Genzo.
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>>162559225
Noggenfogger and sally
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>>162559225
2 don
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>>162559289
At least you got one of them.
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>>162559476
That bug got fixed anon, nice meme though
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>>162559225
800 dust
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>>162555515

Battlecry abuse.
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do i craft jaraxxus for the patrician tier 1 deck route or do i craft patches and go for the easy aggro ways?
can only craft one right now
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>>162559196

clips twitch tv/reckful/CleanBearHassanChop

last thing to happen before he went over
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>>162559798
want rank - patches
want fun - EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION
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>>162559852
>hur dur i get angry and hit things
so funny man i love streamers
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Is Arena worth doing? I don't think I'm good enough to win multiple matches, but will I still break even compared to a pack?
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Say A COUPLE OF WORDS about this card right now.
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>>162560158
3 wins to break even
7 wins for free pack
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>Deal well over 50 damage to the enemy hero
>still lose

Fun games
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>>162554649
>the Legion of Doom plans its next caper

>>162559852
>i can save a clip of him freaking out but NOT jumping no sir

>>162560264
He looks cool in gold.
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I never play warrior

Never ever

Should I dust every single warrior card or keep it in case someday I sell my acc or something?
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>>162560091
>implying renolock doesn't give you ranks
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>>162554251
> jeb memes

I always knew Blizzard was /pol/, just look at goblins and trolls. Orcs are illegal aliens and humans are trying to deport them.
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>>162560264
A COUPLE OF WORDS about this card right now.
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>>162560264
filler trash
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>>162560346
Dust all cards and sell your account
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>>162560091
>Implying Renocancer isn't easy as fuck to pilot and win free matches
>Spam board clears
>Drop some big value guys
>Combo your opponent down from 20HP

As a warlock main, I feel disgusted by this meta
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>>162560347
>implying you cant win 5 games with patches in the time you win one with renolock

once you lose to my dragon priest, do you want to do it in 2 minutes or 20 minutes?

and obviously when you ask such questions as which to craft, you dont have the skill to deal with all these pirate decks with renolock (implying you have all the other 10k dust to complete a renolock)
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>>162560264
filler
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>>162560264
he's a good looking card i guess
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>>162560264
It's a filler card that is decent but not exiting about what it does. Not every card needs to be a 10/10 amazing card.
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>>162560264
Shitty limited filler.
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How is Wind-up Burglebot? Unpacked it a bit ago, seems pretty meh.
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proposed nerf for twilight drake
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Jelly?
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>>162560990
Stop being salty about this card. Handlock is dead. It is no problem in Reno.

>>162560929
I mean, unless you have basically no cards, he's garbage. But he's a cut above Lord of the Arena, if you know what I'm saying.
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>>162561080
Niiiice. Really want two of those, but Kazakus comes higher on my craft list for now.
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>>162561134
>It is no problem in Reno
hi guldan
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>>162561080
no
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>>162561134

>No problem in Reno

UH
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>>162561516
UNDELET THIS
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>>162561080
Jelly?
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>>162561634
Very yes.
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>>162561634

golden kaz master race reporting in
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People are complaining about fucking Twilight Drake now? Will you fucks only stop bitching once everyone can only play whisp and every class gets the same hero power?
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>>162561080
Nigger please, the only thing I'm jelly for is your paint skills

This is what I got from my 31 packs I bought with gold ( the Warlock one I got from 11 compesation packs )
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>>162561634
Extremely.

>>162561604
>>162561330
Stop memeing. You have to actually be stupid if you think the current Reno lists out there are overpowered. You are stupid. I hate you stupid bandwagon cunts. You probably don't even play. Just watch streams and shitpost. Fuck you.
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>>162561751
>You have to actually be stupid if you think the current Reno lists out there are overpowered.

Legends are actually stupid.
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>>162561634
>>162561731
Lucky fucks
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>>162561741
Forgot pic
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I love Krul so goddamn much.
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>>162561907

>craft the Don
>pull the Din on my next pack
There really needs to be a timer or some shit for dupe legends
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>>162561907
I don't understand the lore behind Raza

His lore meme says something like '' can you ask Kazakus for the key?'' which implies Kaza chained him

But when you summon him he says '' You will serve Kazakus''

Is he just a sadomasoquist or something like that?
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>>162560990
*earth shocks*
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>>162561907
Raza golden animation is fucking gorgeous, even if you don't play priest you shouldn't dust him
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>>162562109
Well, he's OC, so just really imagine any lore you want.
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>>162562109
I'm pretty sure based on the art, that he is somewhat made up of chains or kept together by chains or something.

The people who write the flavor text are borderline functional retards who intentionally try to make epic memes.
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>>162562109
oh shit so you're supposed to pic the add 3 demons to hand potion from kazakus it all makes sense now thats why its there
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>>162562338

This. Almost every flavor text is a wannabe meme or a bad play on the card name. I think they just raid a junior H.S for this department
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why is everyone at lifecoach house is he having an orgy?
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in hs deck tracker,how do you check a certain deck's winrate against a certain class?
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mulligan for auctioneer
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>>162562564
Skip your mulligan when playing against Rogue, because you don't really need it to win.
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>>162562564
>not keeping auctioneer vs control

enjoy your rank 26 faggot
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>>162562636
the post you are replying to specifically states to mulligan FOR auctioneer my illiterate friend
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>>162562564
>make a deck dependent on 2 cards
>those same two cards are your cycle engine
LOL it's a miracle if you win with this deck
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>>162562506
thats what rich people do anon. orgies.
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what the fuck is this disgusting new warrior deck where they just go face with everything

disgusting
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>>162562770
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>>162562823
can i trade my hearthstone collection in for shadowverse dust or whatever they call it?
if they do this i might think about it
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What race do you want more cards of? I love these ogres. They're my favorite.
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>>162562765
dumb yuroshit kill yourself
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>>162558917
Raza is not memeshit. It could fit into most priest decks
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>>162561080
Why is this card good? Can't your opponent summon crazy shit?
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>>162561735
when wisp-a-din becomes meta I can die happy
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>>162563049
It can pull Reno or other crazy battlecries. Still unreliable as fuck though.
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>>162563049
people meme it together with brann to disrupt combos and value cards like leeroy and jaraxxus.
its basically a tryharder renolock teched for the mirror
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>>162562947
femtroll hero when
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>>162563049
everybody is running combo cards, but you're right that's why i've gone back to playing tempo mage with rag and antonio
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>>162563047
he doesn't fit into the only priest deck worth a damn, dragons. in fact, he doesn't fit in anything but renotrash
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No bully Eloise ;_;
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>>162562947
Are you fat or gay?
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>>162551903
the card is retarded tho.
Is the same thing happening with fiery war axe, the card has been op for years but cards are only touched when they are in a oppresive deck
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>>162562823
Well, if you really want us to shit your thread up we can do it without abandoning this one.
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>>162563826
Gives 100 dust
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>>162563826
Crusader power creep
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>>162562506
>Not knowing about Sexcoach and his sexy streams

You need twitch prime to see them though.
>>
I want nothing more than an expansion where Druid is in an even worse spot than fucking Priest was prior to this one.

Druid has been a top two class SINCE THE GAME WAS FUCKING RELEASED because somebody at team 5 OK'd this card even though the exact same card existed in a 23 (twenty three) years old card and it had to be instantly banned because it was so ridiculously overpowered.
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>>162563583
based jj
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>>162563415
That's mostly because there are only 2 priest decks in the meta right now, just wait until next expansion when they finally give priest that boardclear it needs to be viable
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>>162564382
Dumb controlposter
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>>162551585
Living roots are pretty based the 2 damage helps a lot with removing annoying shit plus they cost 1 so good to combo with gadetzan. Mark is pretty bad, I wouldn't run it.

Don't listen to the memers saying you need fandril, he's good icing but not needed for the core decks.
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>>162564382

Warlock is more annoying.
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>>162564573
>implying icing isn't a necessary part of a cake

Pound cake a shit
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>>162564382
>>162564594
Life Tap and Innervate are both stupidly overpowered, they've mostly circumvented life tap by giving Warlock mostly shitty cards up until this point, and even then once Reno rotates Warlocks will no longer be able to tap tap mountain giant without worry

Innervate is far more broken in the long term especially when it's being used to cycle with Gadgetzan Auctioneer.
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>>162564991
>Life tap OP
>In a game where 30 health and cards is maximum
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>>162565159
>draw 2 cards a turn
>vs draw 1 card a turn
>not OP

See what happens when pirate warrior gets lifetap and tell me its not OP
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>>162564991
innervate is like limiting druid decks to 28 cards since you're going to run two innervates no matter what

it's a ridiculous card and everyone knows it. every single class would run two of it under any circumstances because it's just a black lotus

it's a stupid ass card that has been needing nerfing for years now
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>>162563826
Provides card advantage on a reasonably sized body. Effectively guaranteed to replace itself cardwise.
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>opponent plays sir finley
>discover options dont show up
>he still has the default hero power
???
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>>162565429
Innervate loses you card adventage. Its bad
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>>162565587
sap literally makes the game 29 vs 30 cards

legit unplayable, worst card in the game easily
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>>162565587
t. malfurion
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>>162565587
Yes but it can generate tempo and board advantage which are also important. The way it interacts with auctioneer is what really makes it busted since it means it isn't a dead draw at a later point in the game which is what is supposed to be a major downside of this kind of card.
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innervate is bad in long run because it's taking up a hand spot and is a terrible topdraw, what really needs a nerf is auctioneer and arcane giant
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>>162565914
nah
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>>162565914
>>162565859
You guys wont be happy until only vanilla minions are left
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>>162565914
yeah in fact every single card druid abuses with its retarded core card set should just be nerfed because fuck classes that aren't druid amirite
>>
I ranked down to Shieldbearer for the tourney, forgetting it would still display my higher Wild rank. But, at least I get some of the Rank 19 meta this way.
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>>162565859
fun fact: no one used auctioneer in druid since december 2014 until now
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>>162565914
>>162565587
>People are arguing that Innervate, the card that has been run in literally every single druid deck since it's inception, that the EXACT same card that exists in other card games that is fucking banned for being stupid busted, is bad
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>>162565914
>terrible topdraw,
not thanks to auctioneer, even wild growth is now a great top deck
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>lifecoach running patches in renolock
what the fuck,this is getting ridiculous
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>>162563928
You don't play it, why should we? Let's just meme it up in your thread.
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>>162566273
>ooze
>harrison
>bloodsail corsair
>all in the same deck
fuck me
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>>162565326
Warriors have a entire different playstyle/cards, you can't compare how 2 different classes work like that you retard

Put any other hero power in warlock and it becomes the worst class in the game
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>>162566273
Literally every deck except jade druid gets better with a small pirate engine
>>
>HE DOESN'T RUN WRATHION
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>>162566087
Ragnaros is fucking overpowered and basically wins the game on his own.
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>>162566205
Yes because now Druid has a huge amount of relevant spells to cast that makes it worth it. I should have specified that in this format auctioneer puts it over the edge since there's a lot of great spells for Druid that also synergize with it. Cheating on mana is always something strong but this environment means that innervate does more than it has done before.
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>>162566736
Sometimes drawing 6 cards is not exactly ideal.
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>>162566736
I prefer northshire + holy nova package
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>>162566736
any video of wrathion in a deck that is all dragons out yet?
>>
One month until Reno cycles out
One month until the game is playable again
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>>162567181
Wouldn't that kill you the moment you played him?
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>>162567232
it's going to be ~5 months
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>>162567232
but reno soulcaster mage is the only deck worth playing
>>
Is Don Han'Cho any good on Warrior? I don't win with him very much.
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is Kazakus meta-teir yet?
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>>162567861
Stop posting these vaginal abominations. Vaginas don't look like that, you retarded weeaboo cunts.
>>
Fun fact: when you search for "jade" you will get Lotus Agents in the results, even though the word is not anywhere on that card.
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>>162567346
It should stop after 1 tick of fatigue. I saw it happen once on a stream.
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>>162567956
Fun fact, Lotus Agents are part of the jade gang
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>>162567956
It's almost like they added a search string for "Jade Lotus" or something.

That's incredible!
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>>162567956
Fun fact: when you search for "your mom" you will get malkorok in the results, even though the word is not anywhere on that card.
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>>162568776
Which deck used to run this card before? Tempo Warrior?
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>>162566423
what a dumb yurocunt
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>>162560264
TALK ABOUT A NICE SUIT
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>playing jade druid
>aggro warrior
>aggro warrior
>pirate rogue
>aggro warrior

>remove my raven idols and put in two doomsayers
>reno priest
>renolock
>renolock
>miracle rogue
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>>162569850
Unlucky.
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Not a bad evening. Only lost to Pirate Rogue because I couldn't draw quite well enough. Unbuffed wee dragon isn't so good against weapon/ Patches.
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>>162569850
welcome to hellstone
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>>162568776
Holy shit how the fuck did I fall for that.
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>>162570116
You forgot to click the crafting button
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>>162570161
Get the fuck out you disgusting degenerates.
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>>162570161
why is this woman showing me her crotch
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>>162570440
>woman
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>>162570440
Because weebs will never see a real one
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>>162570480
i know those breasts look fake, but it's just drawn badly
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>>162567625
It's a key card in a top tier deck, so yeah, probably.
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>>162570161
Disgusting.
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>>162570161
RIP Hearthstone, it has been a fun 2 years
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Play yugioh
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Play Scrolls just kidding literal ded game
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Why the fuck did Blizzard change Murloc Warleader?
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Play Magic the Gathering
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>>162567956
There are a few bugs with the search. There's at least one card that doesn't show up when you search for its name.
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G U A C B O I I
N E X T D O O R
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how would you balance a spell that draws you one more card for each point of spell damage you have

base spell would be one card drawn
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>>162566159
Wait

You have non-basic cards?

I feel betrayed
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>>162547560
one drops are overstatted in this game.
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>>162571459
Jade Spirit doesn't show up in search when you search for Jade Golem, even though it clearly states that it summons a Jade Golem in its Battlecry. Other Jade Golem cards do show up in the search.
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>>162551104
>rank 6
>being this bad
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>>162570947
I do, but my favorite deck can't compete with all the try hard faggots at the game shop.

>>162571042
I do, but my favorite deck can't compete with all the try hard faggots on ladder.

>>162571145
lol

>>162571327
Please leave.
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>>162560264
Good card.
Would bring it on a plane with me and friends.
A lot of loyalty.
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>Six minions on board
>Rag blasts his face for lethal

Wacky and cool stories to tell your friends!
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Really now.
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Struggling to find any consistent wins with this deck. Loses to aggro, loses to midrange, loses to Rogue, and is even with Reno decks at best Doesn't beat C'thun/Control Warrior unless you discover the 3rd Anyfin.

Is this deck trash? Am I trash?

Is it both?
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>>162573043
Didn't you already ask this? And yes, it's probably trash. I never liked Anyfin Paladin, it's too hard to pull off the combo.
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>>162572016
I had to limit my power, anon. Just think what would have happened if I had even been able to use yeti.
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>>162573257
>Didn't you already ask this?
Yes in the previous thread, but nobody answered and I'm still looking for feedback.
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>>162573043
Deck seems pretty reasonable, except for Thalnos. Looks like he doesn't do a goddamn thing. Loot Hoarder is incrementally better given you only have consecrate for the spell power.
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How much did you guys spend on this game. I decided to just check and so far I spent 178.96. I bought nearly every adventure so I could spend all gold on packs. I also went nuts during GvG and bought 50 packs I think that was during some random Amazon sale.

All in all I think I did okay though, if you think about it its only a good video game and a half per year.

>>162573043
Too many ways to restore life now. Reno, then copied Reno. Kazakus with the various memes, and decks do more DPS like aggro can win before you can actually even Ivory Knight. The decks winning strategy is holding players down until the Murloc floods but that might never happen now.
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>>162573692
0
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>>162573305
>I had to limit my power, anon. Just think what would have happened if I had even been able to use yeti.
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>>162573692
$25 plus tax.

I bought LoE to reward Blizz for making a legitimate good set, and the Welcome Bundle because it was a pretty stupid good deal.
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Name THIS CARD
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Should I just dust everything and make pirate warrior at this point?
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>>162574619
if you want to get stuck on rank 5 then yes by all means
it will probably get you 4 months of rank 5 at least
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>>162573692
193 bucks

holy shit it addds up doesnt it
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>>162574573
Polluted Hoarder
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>>162574573
Polluted Hoarder
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>play Reno Demonlock
>beat Jade Druid that BMed all game
there is no better feel
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who is his coke dealer?
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>>162575351
me
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>>162574573
polynesian hodor
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help pls
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>>162575539
How about Druid? Or maybe Priest. Or even Warrior. I don't know. What do you think?
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>>162575539
mage
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>>162575539
Quit and spend another 150g to reroll.
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>>162567181
Someone did it turn one on a druid with coin + double innervate.
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Can someone recommend me a metadeck that is theoretically possible to get to legend, and that doesn't include any crucial cards from adventures that will be removed from standard next year, exept the two first blackrock wings.
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>>162577161
Pirate Warrior.
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>>162577161
Swashbuckle Soldier
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>>162577161
If you can't even figure out/build a viable deck that doesn't require anything cycling out in 2017 then you're definitely not getting legend.

How hard is it to google what current Legend players are using and deduce which of their decks fit your criteria?
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>>162577161
face shaman
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>BOTH preps, gadgetzan, and coin are at the bottom of my deck

I want to die.
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>>162575351
Is he /our guy/?
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>>162550418
I'm late to the thread, but hanks for this
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>go to emote sorry before playing a top-decked useless meme card
>no sorry emote anymore
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post cards you are gonna miss next standard cycle
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>>162577590
>How hard is it to google what current Legend players are using and deduce which of their decks fit your criteria?

It's not that it's hard, it's just time consuming. Why do the work myself when I can just ask someone who knows?
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>>162575539
mage_
>>
How do shadowverse players enjoy the game when it's just hs with a shitter interface? Are there really that many sexually frustrated teens around that they need amine art?

I'm pretty sure of it go to /svg/ two thirds of the thread will be waifu shit.
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>>162571168
>Finja in Anyfin paladin
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>>162578101
fucking newfags I tell ya
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>>162578095
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>>162577913
I DID IT AGAIN FOR FUCK SAKE BLIZZARD
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What the fuck is this shitty meta? Nothing works except le epic patches meme, but i didn't open that shit, i didn't open anything good just TWO fucking cockmaster solia. FUCK THIS GAY META HIW IS THIS ALLOWED?
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>>162578340
if it makes you feel better i crafted solia
boy do i regret that
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>>162578487
I crafted nat the darkfisher
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How to lose the game on turn 1
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>when the game is just like Nah mate, you dont deserve to win this one.

Rip streak.
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>>162578956
gee I wonder what did he expect to find from that dirty rat
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>>162563826
great arena pick, wish it wasn't an epic
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>>162578101

>Too time consuming to google search and rub two brain cells together to make a deck
>But has the time to grind to Legend

Mmkay. See ya when you start bitching about your Pirate deck getting walled at Rank 5.
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>Mulligan with a pirate deck
>Patches 70% of the time
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When I played rogue earlier today I was losing every game to shamans, now I understand how rogues win this matchup.

just become the shaman
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>watching kolento
>enemy druid runs patches
this is getting retarded,without small time buccaneer patches isnt THAT good
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>>162578340
Have you ever considered that you might be bad at Hearthstone?
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I thought we were free from the reign of the green orcdick

Why is thrall top class again? What lethal injection does this fucker need to stay dead?
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>>162575539
Priest is actually decent with the new OP potion, which is a common. Also dat 3drop.
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>>162581374
Next update it loses tunnel trogg, totem golem and steak here, Shaman is going to have it rough the following months.
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>>162581374
Thrall was Metzen's DMPC, he's gonna be the best my dude.
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>>162581529
This image would be much more charming if Diablo 3 didn't suck, especially at launch
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>>162581502
Until then Im gonna have 30 brain aneurysms.

I hope that they leave him dead in the gutter and give him 5 mana 1/1 ragers for the rest of eternity. Fuck shaman.
>>
I'm coming back and I stopped playing after naxxramas. Which expansion wings should I get?
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>>162577781
He's just a guy, not our guy.
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will "no duplicate" decks still be the least bit viable after reno rotates out?

i sure fucking hope not
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>>162581882
karazhan,the other two will rotate out next expansion(5 or so months)
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>>162581882
Goblins versus Gnomes
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>>162582067

>No heal
>No Bran for LMAO TWO POTIONS

Unless they replace it with an equally overpowered effect, probably not
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>>162582067
maybe?
even without Reno there's a ton of healing available to those highlander classes now.
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>>162547127
Why isn't this "endless stream of renolock" edition?
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>Enemy plays Brann to set up for EPIC plays
>Change his mind
>Next turn drop 2 Secret Agents
>I concede to you
ANOTHER WORLD LOST
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Important question. Is Reckful jewish?
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>>162582826
yes
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>>162582510
Play my asshole
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>>162582447
its a "reno lock has every aoe off the top" episode
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>tfw you beat a faggot who played 4 Implosions against you in arena
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I found the Exodia deck.
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Shit guys. I think I am close to falling for the druid bird chick C'thun combo. Quick talk some sense into me guys!
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If Blizzard wanted to double down on Reno decks they should have just made the game with more starting life. Reno gameplay is not interesting to me.
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>>162581502
Totem golem is its big loss
Trogg isn't really that big a deal, nor is steak.
Steak isn't even run in aggro shaman right now, and trogg is effectively replaced by buccaneer.
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>>162572152
That's the card I'm thinking of. You can search for "Jade" or "Golem" and it will appear but it doesn't show up with "Jade Golem," even though "Jade Golem" is explicitly in the card text.
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>>162582348
Priest has greater healing potion and free hero power

Warlock has ?? Siphon Soul? Sac Pact?

Mage has Ice Barrier
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>>162584942
....
Reno decks are running mistress of mixtures, refreshment vendor, and earthen ring
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>>162585743
>shitty neutral heals being enough for a control deck

yea no
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Best deck there is
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>>162586285
>shitty neutral heals
You just gotta know how to manage your health better, yo
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>>162586285
The thing is... you're wrong. Reno lock can play aggressively to the board, and it's wipes allow it a lot of leeway on health. Plus, they run argus, and taunts count towards HP gain. Not to mention doomsayer.

If renolock is eating too much damage over the top, they can play to combo more.

Ultimately reno makes them tremendously powerful and helps them win aggressive matchups, but they're capable of winning without playing reno.

Healing isn't even the biggest factor in what makes the deck, which they have a fair amount of outside of reno. Plus, its not like more healing won't be cycled in with the new expansion.
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>>162581176
I'm a new player, so i don't have a big card pool. I still managed to craft at least one tier 1 deck every season and climb with it to rank 10. This season looks different. Can't play aggro because i'm missing patches, can't play reno lock because i don't have twisting nether/jaraxxus/leeroy or kazakus, can't play dragons because no BRM, can't play jade because no fandral/aya. So i'm stuck with no idea what deck to play because all feel unfinished and uncompetitive.
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>>162586285
>he doesn't remember when handlock only ran double earthen ring, syphon soul, alexstrasza, and jarraxxus for healing
>laughingsisters.jpg
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>>162587128
You an age before the meta was able to be as aggressive as it is now?

The loss of healbot is the other half of what killed handlock along with the molten nerf
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>>162574573

pole-dance whore-daughter
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>>162587327
Literally pre-nerf hunter was a thing, and combo druid, both of which were around before healbot and reno.

The loss of reno is only going to bring singleton warlock into a more acceptable line with the other classes.
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>>162583761
do it
>>
>hs keeps getting worse and worse despite the potential
>tfw we really live in the worst timeline
>>
Anyone got an 80g quest to trade?

vaughn #2870 EU
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>>162567181
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>>162587914

>do it
Bird chick is rotating and kun is dead as fuck afterwards. Why are you doing this, anon?
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>>162588689
The deck is inconsistent and expensive.

Build renolock or aggro shaman.
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>>162588689
>Aviana is rotating
now I'm sad
>>
made a reno priest with the new priest lego
do i really need the new spell lego too?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJvNl-2bSaU
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>>162582067
He doesn't rotate out until they introduce some more cards, and I'm hopeful that they'll have at least one replacement (probably a Kabal only instead of generic) in the wings ready when they do.
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>>162589071
>unpacked Aviana months ago
>see this dumb combo deck going about
>should probably get the Fandral and malygos to play it
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>>162589367
lo;, this commercial might actually hurt the game more than help it get new players
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What did he mean by this
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>>162589367
Is that Putin dressed like Sylvanas?

based
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>>162589723
He wished you well on your journey in ladder, called you a gracious and honorable opponent, and swore fealty to you should you call him in your darkest hour.

I'm not so good with my elvish, but I'm pretty sure that is what he said.
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>>162583461
wow you found the deck every streamer already played the entire last week
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>>162589367
is blizzard actually autistic
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>>162589723
something about a boat. he's either selling one or looking to buy
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>>162589723
he wants to know if you like radiohead
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>>162589367
I saw the title and I was like "oh it's gonna be two guys having a fight and someone tells them to go inside as in go to the Inn and then the Innkeeper deals them some cards and they fight"

That sure was something fucking else.
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>>162589058

This. Use the dust to pimp out a full renolock. Both of those druid legendarys are complete trash besides this meme deck that's going to last a week.
>>
Any new EU players around here?
I play on NA but could help one of you by giving you a free 80 gold.
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>>162589330

Priest is such a bad deck. Drake op literally carries dragon/renodragon priest on its back. Save your dust
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>>162590518
im eu
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>>162590561
damn i crafted the new priest one golden
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>>162590648
what's your tag?
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>>162590731
superhans#2114
im not a new player tho. if anyone needs it more than me, its cool.
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>tfw just finished fapping to OP
thanks friends.
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>>162547127
>powering up, portals online
>powering up-
>HELLO HELLO-
>HELLO HELLO-
>I! AM! READY!
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>>162589723
>fuck you you asshole little whore
>lucky fuck yada yada
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>>162589367
>Guaccboi
They know.
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>>162589367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CodP4SAQiKY

>Japan gets better ads than the West
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Who to craft next?

Hobart ( for Control/Dragon Warr) Krul (Renolock with the Demon-spawning epic chick?)
Paletress (for highlander+Raza shenanigans)
Saraad (again for Raza shit idk I always wanted him even tho he's a meme)
Patches (is he even going to be relevant two months from now?)

I know Patches is the strongest but he feels like the least fun of my options. Help pls.
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Can we stop using "playable" and unplayable" they both have "Aya" in them and it's messing things up when I search for the best waifu.
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>>162591065
>this fucking ad
It's like my chinese cartoons and HS fused into some unholy amalgam. TY based weebs
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>>162591065
>dat remix
10/10
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>>162590683
Its okay, anon, I crafted double finders keepers because I was drunk and wanted to play miracle shaman and the only thing I realized is that shaman draw is better than the miracle engine when it comes to using shaman cards
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>>162591065
>all those qts
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>>162589367
>>162591065
>$0.05 has been deposited into your Battle.net Balance™
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>tfw Ragnaros comes through for you and steals a win across a 10/10 taunt

Also man I am fucking sick of drawing Emperor Thaurssian and then get neither of my two Auctioneers the whole game. That sick two turn Emp discount meant nothing without you man! Fuck!
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I wanna FUCK that panda
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>>162591658
>shilling hearthstone on a hearthstone board
>with ~100 posters
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>>162560264
not enough dakka
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>>162560264
LOTTA LOYALTY
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>Renolocks in rank 17

I want Reynard gassed, he made the climb ten times longer with his gay little video
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>>162592290
The worst part is that I rarely saw aggroshaman before temposhit updated, then it was all aggroshamans.
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would you play this card?
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This just leaked from the next expansion. Is it going to see play?
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>>162592429
>before temposhit updated,
you mean before reynad streamed it and said it was even better than pirate warrior while crushing ladder?
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>>162592650

Unironically more balanced than golem.
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>>162592650
not good enough desu.
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>>162592562
maybe
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>>162560264
Power creep to Ironfur Grizzly
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>>162593045

muh beast tag
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>>162592801
>>162592921
It leaked alongside this
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>Have 6 1 drops in deck
>4 2 drops
>Go second
>None in first 4
>Mulligan all
>Still none

literally instant loss why is this allowed
>>
>it's a mill rogue game

ah yes this is definitely worth my time
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>>162593625
This never happend in RL if my enemy shuffle the deck. Only on Robot bullshit.
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>>162593625
Its more a forct win for enemy.
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>>162591658
you got me m8, blizzard paid me to share a japanese commercial for a game in the general of the game you're already playing
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>>162594217

So when totem golem rotates. Do you think control shaman might see the light of day?
>>
This was my first warlock draft in like six months. Did pretty well.
>>
svg is laughing at you
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>>162594416

Shaman also loses trogg which is a way bigger loss.
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>>162594416
Elemental destruction rotates out too, so no control is just as dead.
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Dragon Priest is dogshit

>Bricks constantly
>No natural draw
>Hero power is still dogshit
>Loses to pirate warrior because they can easily deal with your meme minions
>Loses to literally every other control deck out there
>Loses hard to Reno
>No sticky minions

Why would I play this cripple midrange deck that only works if you mulligan to keep a 5 drop dragon in your hand?
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>Priest ropes me to shadow word pain my 3/2
>Make sure I spend every turn dragging until the end of the rope spamming greetings
>Alt tab and do something fun in the meantime

lmao kys controlbabs
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>>162548452
Because it's the only Reno deck with consistent draw.
Technically Rogue and Warrior could pull it off as well. But Reno variations wouldn't have a reliable draw to actually combo every game that they don't die before turn 6.
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>>162595008

I had a fucking Druid pull that shit on me.

You already play a tier 1 class and you still have to resort to baby tier bullshit
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>>162594867
I'm loving this shit.

I fucking told y'all this deck would still be trash. Morons out here calling Operative Dr. 5 and shit. Its only going to get worse when BRM rotates, and i'm so pleased.
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>>162595130
>implying Drakonid op isn't overpowered as shit, only balanced by the fact that priest is a shit class
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What happens if you play Jaraxxus into Potion of Polymorph?
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>>162594678
I like to play Tempomage, but i still think manawyrm is broken.
Same for Trogg, card need a max DMG BUFF like on similar games like magic. If you not draw a instant boardclear is autolose everytime. Coinflip lose thats make ragequit the game.
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>>162595254
nothing
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>>162594867
it's good against noobs
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>>162595251
Literally how cards work. You could give priest a card that says "Give your weapons +10/+10" for one mana, but priest can't use it effectively, so its trash.

So drakonid operative? Into the trash it goes.
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>>162594678
>>162594753

>all the good cards rotating
and I was THIS close to crafting the WotOG shaman legendary
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>>162552045
Would this make Freeze mage slightly less unfun to play against?
If you calculate and play your damage right to get the opponent to 1 and then trigger Ice Block, they are dead.
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>>162594867
>No natural draw
>PW Shield
>Azure drake
?????????
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>>162595956
If it gave the hypothermia debuff like it did in game it would make more sense, but freeze being unfun to play against doesn't make it strong.

The deck is fine at the moment.
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>>162595956

Double the mana cost and have any damage that would kill you reduce you to one.
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>>162596218
>Have any damage that would kill you reduce you to one
That is Cheat Death, an old rogue talent

Which reminds me

Why the fuck do paladins have secrets and not rogues?
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>>162596326
>Why the fuck do paladins have secrets and not rogues?
what secrets would you propose?
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>>162595130

Dr.OP carries the shitter priest on its back. It's not enough since dragons are painfully slow, and have no built in burst so renolock can just drop a jarraxxus at any good moment to out value a priest long term
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>>162596326
If I remember correctly, Rogues were supposed to get 1 mana secrets instead of Paladins, but Brode and his cronies felt that Paladin lacked """""""class identity""""""", so they gave them to Uther instead.

Rogue's class identity is being literally useless against any class that does anything except play one big minion per turn.
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Why does blizzard keep ruining this game by making it brainless for casuals? Just look at new guac boy ad to see the future direction of hearthstone. What similar game should I switch to since hearthstone is dying?
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>>162596384
Cheat Death actually makes sense
Riposte, like if the rogue has a weapon equipped and is struck it deals weapon damage to the enemy that struck it
Kick- its counterspell, I don't want to sit and think about how to modify it
Getaway Kodo should have been vanish, vanish should have been smoke bomb
I dunno, I haven't played wow in lke 5 years, so I don't remember all of the rogue stuff
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>>162596628
Rouge is bad to aggro, no heal no armor, facetank enemy monsters with 1 dmg dagger...
feel like have sex with your sister, you know it is wrong.
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>>162596628
Paladin has weapons, healing, divine shields, and DA RULES.

Why give them secrets instead of fleshing that out more? Paladin weapon support is pretty trash, they could shored that up. Seals buffing weapons, something like the original Savagery druid spell.

I dun get it senpai
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>want to play midrange hunter
>still no draw options

do I just put fucking azure drakes in or something
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Wanna take this inside, /hsg/?
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>>162597075
Use your elephant of free highmane
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>>162597075

Too slow :^)
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>>162597075
The only card draw you need is Quick Shot to the face
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>>162595515
>9 mana deal 11 damage with Medivh
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>>162597075
tracking, Elekks, Coldlight Oracles, Azure Drakes, Curator, Starving Buzzard, Genzo, quickshot
pick your poison, cuz Midrange Hunter is in a bad place right now
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>this new warrior pirate deck that just goes face

this is not fun
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>>162597456
Good night, Jeb
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So, I love decks that always throw curve balls around like no one's business. As soon as I found out that tome was a thing, I jumped into hearthstone again and kept trying to get Yog. I fucking love this deck and it's even beaten some fucking reddit dragon deck almost consistently.

However, is this a good deck? Should I replace some cards with other shit? I love this deck a lot, but sometimes I get outpaced by zoo decks.
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>vs freese mage
>vs pirate warrior
>vs freese mage
>vs pirate warrior
>vs pirate warrior
>vs pirate rogue
>vs pirate warrior
Fucking jesus CHRIST I'm just rank 10. come the fuck on
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>>162597925
If you're consistently facing two decks, you should use your brainpower to come up with a way to deal with those two decks.
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>>162597925
>freese
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>>162597048
I've always envisioned Paladin secrets, from a lore standpoint, as a sort of command/battle orders type thing.

>weapons
This is more of a Warrior thing. Paladins typically use maces, of which Uther has zero (0).

>healing
this was supposed to be Priest's class identity, but these days Paladin is better at it.

>divine shield
too many neutral minions have this available to them for it to be Paladin's class identity.

>DA RULES
this is just a form of stat manipulation, which is something that would make a lot of sense for Paladin but that was never really fleshed out. Buff Paladin has historically been a shit deck.

Brode and his crew honestly have no idea what they are doing in terms of making each class feel unique; they just end up with a handful of viable classes, with the rest being trash tier.
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>>162591132
Search for "Aya ". The space kills both words.

Or just set it to match case or whole words.
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>>162597075
Don't play midrange Hunter retard. You're not fast enough to win against Reno decks, but you're too slow to win against Pirate niggers. Just give up, Hunter is fucking dead until next expansion.
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>>162591449
>finders keepers
Maybe if they released more overload support like Trog?
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Honestly? Ben should be fired because of how bad the ad was.
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>>162598010
I just want to play my jade/N'zoth deck man, that's all I want to do.
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>>162598013
yes fucking freeze, not even reno, just straight up freeze
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>>162595281
Magic doesn't have max buffs. Just the opposite, some combos will literally give you monsters with infinity/infinity stats.
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>>162560264
make it a 3/4
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>>162598423
Finders Keepers is awful. I playtested it quite a bit on ladder. It doesn't work well with auctioneer because overload will fuck your next turn, and you can't really fit lava shock in those lists, it doesn't reliably find burn, and there are a lot of bad overload cards.

The only upside is how often it gave me doomhammer, but I would just want to run doomhammer if it was that good, anyway.

It isn't even remotely a raven idol for shaman.
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>Hand to Hand Fun
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>>162565914
this is correct. temposhitters dont know how to play the game
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>try out the pirate warrior aggro deck
>it sucks and can't win games
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>>162598109
The breakdown you gave of each point was a consequence of poorly developing those aspects of the paladin class identity, and not of them not being part of the paladin class identity.
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>>162599047
the one overload pretty much makes it worthless, surprisingly enough
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>>162599047
Well it's awful NOW, but what if the next set gave us 3 or 4 cards like Tunnel Trogg or Unbound Elemental and another Lava Shock to replace the one that's rotating out? Then you would get a deck (probably meme, but still) based around overloading.
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>>162565914
>being this retarded

Innervate is an obscene card by every conceivable metric, and I'm not being hyperbolic. Without wild growth and innervate druid isn't very good.
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>>162599161

You're late to the party. I called it a week ago, but the meta decks are refined so the pirrior can't blindside people by turn 5 anymore.
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>>162599161
>try deck that easily got hundreds of players to legend
>can't win games
>ITS THE DECK THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!

ok bro
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>>162599476
>pirrior
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>>162598429
what ad?
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Just got back into the game, stopped playing at early LoE. What is currently the best cancerdeck i can craft with like 5k dust?
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>>162599307
I mean, Watcher is a card, but how often do you see that played?

The fact of the matter is that Trogg had the traits of cards that have been problems in the past- snowballing 1 drops. Unbound Elemental is unplayably slow- even in arena, its only ever mediocre, even with a good core of overload burn.

The issue is that you only want *certain* overload cards that will interact with *certain* overload "lovers." Essentially, if it isn't busted, it isn't worth messing with.

Lava Shock is a great card, but its not doing anything outrageous, so it doesn't see play.
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>>162599736
jade druid
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So I was just rewatching the Freeza arc with a friend and he brought up the comparison.

Is Renolock with Jaraxxus the most bullshit multistage boss fight in the game?
Every time you bringing him to his knees, he pulls out some bullshit trumpcard and goes all "haha, you think you can defeat me? This isn't even my final form!". And Renos.
And then he drops Jaraxxus on his next transformation and becomes a ticking time bomb that will win 100% if you can't stabilize the board and finish the game in 2-3 turns.
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>>162599161
Do you have Patches?
Most people who lose with Pirate Warrior don't have Patches.
or Leeroy.
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>>162599476
I will say this for the meta at the moment, it forced unrefined decks out in a hurry. If you're not constantly improving your homebrew or playing nest available netdeck, you're not going anywhere. You're either going to get crushed by pirate warrior or pirate shaman by turn 6 because your list is too slow, or you're going to get ground out of the game by renolock if your list is too inefficient.

I haven't seen cheese since like day one.
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>>162599836

Greetings Reddit!
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>>162599939
yeah I have both of them, that's why I decided to make the deck and try it out
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>>162599836
I like to imagine there's some Redditor on the other end of the board going off on a dramatic monologue, Pot of Greed style, every time they do some Reno bullshit.

Redditors absolutely love that sort of smug pseudointellectualism.
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>>162600147
How far have you gotten in the ladder?
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What is the Rowen of Hearthstone?

I'm thinking about trying this game and I want to avoid playing "that" class.
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>>162600185
Druid
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>>162600183
I've tried the deck at several points between rank 20 and rank 8 and it really struggles at all points
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>>162599790
good meme
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>>162600267
Really? I breezed through ranks 17-13 with it and only started having problems at 12. I lack Leeroy and also consider myself a poor player as well.
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Thread is dead, post more of the best waifu.
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>>162600168
I summon Reno Jackson. If there are no duplicates left in my deck, Reno Jackson's battlecry effect heals me for 30 health!
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>>162599836

If your a lore fag this honestly fits Gul'dan perfectly.

>>162600080

I have a feeling that the big 3 of renolock, pirate shaman, and jade druid are going to wreck house for the next 3 months. But this rotation (if blizz actually goes through with it) is going to be fun to watch
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>>162598635
It's interesting to think that if this were a physical TCG, if you got Raza, armor up, and Coldarra you would just say "I have infinite health now, I win" instead of having to try and mash through the animation
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>>162600185
No one. Hearthstone unfortunately lacks hot husbandos.
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King's Elekk is such an underrated card and its a damn shame that it will be rotated out with the rest of TGT
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>>162600185
Druid has ramp, warlock has discard, priest has dragons

How good they are goes in that order.
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>>162600536
What happened to this board's glorious memeposting? All of the creative anons fucking vanished

>>162600548
>jade druid

Big three in what way?
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>>162600536
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>>162600735
King's Elekk was only run to fill up a void filled by Kindly Grandmother.
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>>162600735
Fuck you, Webspinner is the best Hunter card of all time. I'll never forget you, you beautiful bastard.
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>>162600649
Most tables have you actually declare an amount.

You'd just be like "I have, say, 60,000 armor." And the table would be like "alright, he's got 60,000 armor and then someone would entwine tooth and nail to fetch zealous conscripts and kiki-jiki and swing at you with 61,000 attackers
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>>162595956
The Ice Block text is fine, the fact that you can run 2 is not. It's the epitome of what a Legendary spell should be.
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>>162601017
In retrospect, webspinner is truly the kind of card hunter needs.

Webspinner was only a problem because of undertaker. It was a good turn 1, activates your synergies, recycles itself from a pool of only bodies (and beasts are all as honest as an archetype as you can get).

Ball of Spiders was a stupid replacement.

makewebspinnerevergreen2k17
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>>162600815

In terms consistency. renolock is by far the best deck right now, pirate shaman is obvious, and jade druid feels like a strong deck right now that can play low or greedy and have the eventual win.
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>>162600995
>Kindly Grandmother
>Good

I'd rather play the 3/2 that draws me a card in a class with no card draw.
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So I just found out Renolock is the only fun deck in hearthstone. The problem is I'm missing faceless manipulator, twisting nether, Jaraxxus, and Kazakus, but I only have 1600 dust. What should I craft?
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>>162601037
>Most tables have you actually declare an amount.
I've never heard this rule, and I don't see why anyone would ever pick a number less than, like, a google or something.
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>>162601384
Do you think haunted creeper is bad too you fuck?
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>>162547127
How do i win arenas? I keep going 0/3 even when i'm using meme-apps like heartharena
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>>162601384
Kindly Grandmother was good for the all of about a week and a half when Secret Hunter was playable on ladder purely because of Barnes.

On its own, it's a completely horrible card, and it doesn't really synergize with the Goons stuff now either.
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>>162601551
To keep the stupid from happening. Responding to infinity with infinity is obnoxious, since there are tiers of infinities, and there is functionally no difference in a game ending play, typically, between declaring a thousand attackers, ten thousand attackers, and "infinity" attackers. Its just that 2 of the examples you can write down on a notepad and have a point of reference.

Once you play with adults, you'll run into it.
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>>162601498
You can use Kazakus in mage and priest as well.
It gives you the most use out of your 1600 dust so you should craft that one first.
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Well I thought losing 5 in a row was bad, managed to get meme'd as well, thought I had it in the bag seeing I had the 4 minions on the board and full health, once he started BMing me I knew I was fucked.
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>>162601801
I have no way to actually feel sympathy for renolock at the moment.

I will say that the fact this this dude has almost every card golden except Kun is kind of hilarious, though.
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>>162601719
You can write down infinity on a notepad to, and like you said, there's no functional difference between 1000, 10000, and infinity for most numbers in mtg. It should be acceptable to say "I have enough life that you can no longer kill me, unless you deal an arbitrarily large amount of damage just like I have gained an arbitrarily large amount of life", or "I have infinity life" for short.

It's kind of silly, and I'm pretty sure you're the only one who does that/cares about that.
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>>162601801
>golden c'thun

what a fucking madman
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>>162602047
Go play at a card shop, its a pretty normal thing.

I used to say "alright, you're dead" but I played with enough play groups to have it explained to me that not declaring a number is poor practice.
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>>162601789
Yeah Kazakus was my first thought, but it's the worst choice if singleton decks stop being viable when Reno rotates out
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>>162602192
are you trying to get legend now or next season?
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>>162602169
Why is it poor practice? Your only explanations are that it's "obnoxious", and you can't draw ∞ on your notepads.
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>play wild
>it's just the same decks as standard outside of people completely quests

but why?
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>>162547127
Post your favorite card of the set.

Its gonna have to be this guy who keeps my feet from brining for me.

Love the art, love the cost, love the stats.

Also, fuck this captcha
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>>162602047
He's not the only one. Card games are full of people that spout pedantic shit like this.

"Oh, I can't have infinite life? Has to be a finite number, huh? How about I have 400 billion life, is that enough? Now can you just shut up and do some maths with your cards in your hand and figure out how you're going to do 400 billion damage to me, you fuckwad?"
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Anyone here play Wild a lot?

What's the meta like?
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>>162602437

card pool isn't big enough for the legacy format to be interesting yet.
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Will Rogue, Druid and Warlock ever get alternate heroes? What even would they be?
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>>162602437
Was just about to post that.
What the actual fuck. I just want to meme around and play shit that you cant in standard. It's literally the fucking same decks as standard. I just dont get it.
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>>162602393
Because, if you want to get technical, your actions don't just loop independently. You have to go through the trouble of tapping and untapping cards and keeping track of everything. it is a courtesy that the table extends to allow you to declare an arbitrarily large number, so you do the table the courtesy of declaring a number than can be responded to in kind. "Infinity" is clunky, its scalar, and you really shouldn't be permitted to execute it.

The least you can do it not be a smarmy shit and pick a number that 1) will still probably functionally win you the game, and 2) allows people to account for it in their own arithmetic.
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>>162602665
I played around 30 games and saw a grand total of 2 Dr Booms
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I can't decide between Pirate War, Pirate/Miracle Rogue and Jade Druid. Which deck should i craft bros?
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>>162602514
same as standard. You occasionally get to play against paladin and priests use lightbomb as well.
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>>162602457

Aya Blacpaw. Best waifu AND the best card what more could you want?
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>>162602457
>tfw pulling this from a Lotus Agents just won me a game
Both cards are amazing.
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>>162602514
it's basically standard decks with the occasional dr boom and other gvg card
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>>162602905
Oh shit, I forgot about Lotus Agents. What a sweet card.
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Midrange is supposed to beat control decks, but midrange gets shit on by all 3 jade classes and of course pirate.
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>>162602284
I'm trying to craft the card that I'm going to get the most use out of for the next year or so. I guess these cards are all pretty niche now that I think about it
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Why is /hsg/ so fucking awful.

Every single thread just gets worse and worse, every single day.

I don't even want to play this game anymore because I don't want to be affiliated with all the dumb faggots that post blatantly false, misleading, or just plain fucking retarded shit about it here or on reddit constantly.
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>>162602887
>5/3
>Statline that both Kazakus and Han'Cho can bend over a table
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>>162602712
>The least you can do it not be a smarmy shit and pick a number that 1) will still probably functionally win you the game, and 2) allows people to account for it in their own arithmetic.
Infinity does that just fine. If my monster has ∞/∞ stats, arithmetic is no longer necessary. It becomes a simple yes/no question: Can your combo deal infinity damage to my monster? If yes, he's dead. If no, he's not. Same with dealing infinity damage. If you get hit with it, you don't need to bother doing any arithmetic, because you lose the game. Infinity is no more clunky than 40 billion, and you've even said yourself that they're functionally the same number in this context. One's just an easier shorthand.
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>>162603223
Since you wanna be cute, the death rattle cleans up cho and outlives kazakus
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>>162603041
furshit waifufags will ruin anything
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>>162603290
That's just one problem.

It's like, literally every post.

Every single post. Even mine, goddammit.
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>>162603041
msog was a mistake
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>>162603289
I want a waifu that isn't perfectly statted for bullying.
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>>162603041

But then how will you play the best waifu?
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>>162602712
what if he has a combo giving him infinite damage, but I used a combo giving me infinite life, but the way my combo worked led to my infinity having a cardinality greater than his infinity?
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>sleep
>12 hours pass
>thread is still up
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>>162603259
Since you want to be so ridiculous about it, infinity doesn't account for floating effects, residual effects, creatures that leave stuff when they die, card draw, and a bunch of other stuff that you will actually have to declare numbers for.
Infinity is only *probably* functionally the same as an arbitrarily large number, and that chance is only for your benefit.

You seem to think that you're not being pedantic when what you're doing is the equivalent of a kid who is upset that he can't get things exactly how he wants.

On top of that, tournament rules is that you have to declare a functional integer for the exact reason I stated- so your opponent can declare a response. Another reason why people do it in casual is so that they build the habit of doing it in competitive play.

So if you decide to ever do more than play with starter decks in your kitchen, you're going to have to pick a value.
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>>162603694
this game is fucking dead

mean streets was the nail in the coffin
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>>162603223
>>162603417

That's why she has her Jade Golem bodyguards, so that she can't be bullied. The golems die so the best waifu can stay alive.
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>>162603037
how's midrange supposed to deal with all the reno control decks on the ladder and in casual?
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Not sure if I should craft a WOG or MSOG Legendary of craft Beneath the Grounds that will only last until February-ish
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>>162603447
That is one of the problems that I stated with infinities, that they are scalar. But the guy wants to be a smartass.
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>>162603761
Bottom line is, can you do infinite damage or gain infinite life in response to my infinite combo? If the answer is no then we're dealing with pure pedantry. full stop.
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>tfw dropped back to 14
At least I can have some fun while beating golden freeze shitters.
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>>162603921
Not at all. You're objectively wrong, based both on your understanding of the rules and on your understanding of mathematics.
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>>162603761
>You seem to think that you're not being pedantic when what you're doing is the equivalent of a kid who is upset that he can't get things exactly how he wants.
No, I'm pretty sure I'm just not being pedantic.

>On top of that, tournament rules is that you have to declare a functional integer for the exact reason I stated- so your opponent can declare a response. Another reason why people do it in casual is so that they build the habit of doing it in competitive play.
I have never heard of this rule before, and cannot find online. Can you point it out to me in the official rules: www.wizards.com/ContentResources/Wizards/WPN/Main/Documents/Magic_The_Gathering_Tournament_Rules_PDF1.pdf?
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>>162603861
patches
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>>162603037
Midrange will always eventually be the best deck in the meta. The top deck at the end of every single meta has been a midrange deck.

It just hasn't gotten there yet because MSG was actually impactful enough to restart the meta cycle. Give it 4 or 5 more weeks.
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>>162604021
Tell me then, what is the difference between saying "I fireball you for 10987658764786567586 damage" or simply play the combo, demonstrate it's infinite and say gg?
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>check /hsg/
>two autistic retards arguing about numbers

what the actual fuck
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>>162604143
In the Infraction Procedure Guide, the Slow Play infraction is worded as:
A player takes longer than is reasonably required to complete game actions. If a judge believes a player is intentionally playing slowly to take advantage of a time limit, the infraction is Unsporting Conduct — Stalling.
*It is also slow play if a player continues to execute a loop without being able to provide an exact number of iterations and the expected resulting game state.*

In addition,

>Sometimes a loop can be fragmented, meaning that each player involved in the loop performs an independent action that results in the same game state being reached multiple times. If that happens, the active player (or, if the active player is not involved in the loop, the first player in turn order who is involved) must then make a different game choice so the loop does not continue.

Do you need me to find more judge rulings?

There you go. Are you done shitting up the thread with being wrong?
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Pirate warrior is cancer incarnate and I love it
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You pull a combo and declare infinite health, it triggers a secret that gives your opponent an infinite health minion, he'll be able to kill you next turn but you topdeck shield block and gain 5 armor.
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>>162604416

>implying this isn't /hsg/ as usual
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>>162604560
I've been playing a Pirate Warrior deck since Old Gods. I feel like everyone thinks I'm just jumping on the bandwagon now, and it makes me cry hipster tears.
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>>162604369
Look, more rulings.

421. Handling “Infinite” Loops

421.1. Occasionally the game can get into a state in which a set of actions could be repeated forever. The “infinity rule” governs how to break such loops.

421.2. If the loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that many times or until the other player intervenes, whichever comes first.

421.3. If the loop contains at least one optional action controlled by each player and actions by both players are required to continue the loop,
>the active player chooses a number.
The nonactive player then has two choices. He or she can choose a lower number, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the active player to “have the last word.” Or he or she can agree to the number the active player chose, in which case the loop continues that number of times plus whatever fraction is necessary for the nonactive player to “have the last word.” (Note that either fraction may be zero.)
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>>162604624
Fuck, you're right.

Goddammit I hate this general.
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I love this autism in this thread.
Keep going you 2 anons.
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>>162604416
they've been at it for almost 2 hours now, check their posts
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>>162604536
>*It is also slow play if a player continues to execute a loop without being able to provide an exact number of iterations and the expected resulting game state.*
That was obviously written to prevent players from playing out all infinity iterations of an infinite combo, which is why the infraction is stalling/slow play. It's no slower to say "infinity" than it is to say "30 billion". The resulting game state of "I deal infinity damage to you" is "you lose", and if anybody actually calls a judge over to hit you with a stalling infraction for saying "infinity" instead of 2 billion, then yes, they are being pedantic.
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>>162603772
Not even a fucking joke

I've never seen this general more fucking dead
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>>162604416
Ok, but to be fair, I'm right and he's a pedantic asshole.

>>162604783
What? We can't have been at it for that long. My first post was only an hour ago, unless you count >>162595281 as the first post, but I'm pretty sure that's a different guy, and is completely unrelated to our argument.
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>>162604893
You should take your very persuasive "pedantry" argument right to the nearest FNM or Wizards hosted event, I'm sure they'll be very understanding.

This is also because infinite damage and infinite healing aren't the only options- someone can also accrue "infinite" turns. So to keep someone from "technically" not stalling out without an intended win condition, you have to declare a number and demonstrate what you plan to do with all of those turns.

Not to mention that all it would take is someone more pendantic than you to start spouting off about cardinal infinities before your whole game state is a fucking mess, which could have been avoided if you picked a reasonable number.
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>golden pirate warrior at rank 10 wild
???
why
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>>162605113
>Not wanting to deal Aleph 1 damage
baka
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>>162605138
why not?
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>>162605397
why the fuck would you play full blown meta cancer in fucking wild?
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>>162605550
it doesn't even matter anymore

this game is dead, who cares
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>>162605550
because its faster?
I mean I get to rank5 there every month with secret paladin in one evening. Then meme for the rest of the time. He probably does the same with warrior atm.
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Goddamn I love this exodia deck.
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>>162605627
exactly. if this doesnt show that the "legacy, everything goes u guys xDD, play anything xDD, we at blizzard love fun" is literally the fucking same as standard. I dont know, there just isnt any hope for this shit.
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>>162547127
Shaman or Druid Arena? Pls help
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>>162605673
You literally used the combo to just make idiots and not kill your opponent

Why would you do that
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>>162605673
where is your maly faceless combo
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>>162605790
just let him do whatever he wants

it doesn't even matter anymore
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my board was full and I won anyways but, thanks Lotus Agent.
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>want to build this cool deck that Reynad is playing
>don't have Patches or Aya
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>>162606078
just buy 5 packs
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I've been running a Totem Shaman using

Hex x2
Spirit Claws x2
Lightning Bolt x2
Primal Fusion x2
Totemic Might x2
Lightning Storm x2
Maelstrom Portal x2
Fire Elemental x2
Flametongue Totem x2
Totem Golem x2
Tuskarr Totemic x2
Wicked Witchdoctor x2
Draenai Totemcarver x2
Thing from Below x2
Thunderbluff Valiant x2

I'm thinking of Jade-Ifying it by swapping Jade Claws for Spirit Claws, Jade Lightning for Lightning Bolt, and either Thing from Below or Fire Elemental for Jade Chieftain. I'm not sure what to drop to get the Jade Spirit in, though.

Any suggestions?
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>>162606272
Don't do any of that
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>I crafted patches

almost as much of a regret of 1600 dust as twin emps
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>>162605673
You're doing it wrong.
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>>162606565
>>162605673
>casual

literally who cares
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>>162606440
>twin emps
god don't remind me
And c'thun decks actually looked good when the expansion came out.
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>>162606631
Yeah, let me just play my silly meme deck against endless face warriors, that'll be fun.
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>>162606078

>Doesn't have the best waifu yet

What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>162606741
go to fucking /svg/ if you want waifu. You guys are annoying with Aya.

And this is from someone who crafted a gold one.
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>>162603041
Wanna take it inside, guacboy?
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What the fuck is this? How can we be at the same thread i was gone for 8 hours. Just how dead are we?
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>>162606831
>Aya will never give you a golden shower
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Did warlock even get anything interesting with Mean Streets?

Abyssal Enforcer and Blastcrystal Potion seem solid, Crystalweaver might be good, but It doesn't feel like there are enough good demons to make Kabal Trafficker or Krul worth playing. Even then, they're just... kind of boring.
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>>162605113
And what is the result of taking infinite turns, typically?

Does it end with "gg?"
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>>162606965
oh fug das it mane
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>lost 3 ranks in past hour
feeling pretty epic
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>Aggro Shaman

I was so god damn happy the past two weeks when people were playing any other class.

I was so fucking happy.

Why was Rogue the one to get stuck with a fucking Magmar Rager? Why couldn't Shaman have gotten one instead?
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>>162607006
I tried Crystal weaver with imps
it's okay but I don't think it's good for the current meta
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>>162606965
What would her urine smell like?
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>tfw tempo mage is dead
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>>162606440
>>162606676
What's wrong with twin emps?
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>>162607232
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>>162606440
>>162606676
You guys too? Yeah I spent all my dust on that card thinking Cthun druid was going to be the next big thing.

To be fair, Cthun decks STILL seem great on paper. 6/6/7 taunt, x2 4/6 taunts for 7, 10/12/12 deal 12 damage, all with brann for crazy value.. What went so horribly wrong?
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>>162607006
>>162607186
Crystalweaver is a solid beefy drop in zoo, usually hits 2 minions minimum. But zoo is kind of in a bad place right now.
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>only anons left in /hsg/ are pathetic aya posters that weigh 400 pounds
maybe its time to move on. I hear dota got a pretty huge patch
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>>162607201
rancid as fuck

just imagine her bending over in the snow to release a steaming hot stream of acrid bear piss onto your cold lips and shoulders
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>>162607168
Because an average illiterate retard could design and balance cards better than any blizzshit employee.
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>>162607328
hmm.
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>>162607050
Not necessarily. You can generate a great deal of turns, but have nothing to do with them. That is pretty exploitative, since it leaves your opponent with the option to scoop while you literally twiddle your thumbs. So to avoid that, you have to pick a number, and show what you're going to do with it.
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>>162607295
Twin emps is great in a vacuum, the problem is c'thun decks are mediocre at best, and druid c'thun got powercreeped hard by jade druid. Turns out c'thun doesn't work as a finisher when your opponent's board alone has 30 health.
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Anyone here not trash? I have a watch a friend quest that's taking up space because no one on my friends list can win. North America.
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>>162607168
it's okay the next expansion will introduce "elementals" as a minion type and shaman will have a 1 mana 5/1 overload 2
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>>162607616
Just ask them to play the inn keeper.
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>>162607616
Miley#1706
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>>162607616
and your tag is?
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>>162607616
just add me already. BestMageEU#2664
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I've been running an Inner Fire deck for weeks now with great success. I was thinking about making a "serious" Dragon Priest to top out on the ladder.

Then I realized Inner Fire is basically the only way I can finish a game 90% of the time.

How did people actually think Priest would be good, even with Dr. Operative? You basically need a perfect draw to compete with regular decks, not helped by how his Dragon gimmick relies on having an excess or minions on hand, given how Priest has shit draw. Mine only worked because it had the memetic finisher that generates dead cards unless you have something to unload all 3+ onto.
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>>162607971
Yeah, part of that problem isn't priest only, either. You need to be able to close games out now so you don't get ground out or burned out.

Straight value is not a very good plan
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I think dragon priest would be excellent in arena.
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>always keep /hsg/ open
>go to sleep watching hearthstone vods most nights
>still can't play more than 3 or 4 matches at a time because this game fucking sucks

Who else here only plays hearthstone in theory?
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>>162608446
It's not really designed to be played in stretches of more than 3 or 4, but it's a great time waster, killing about an hour or so a day.
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>>162608446
Same here.

This game seems fun in my head, but when I actually play it, I hate it after a few rounds. I invested some money into it when it first launched and that sunk-cost fallacy is basically the only thing keeping me playing at all.
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>>162608446
>Playing "tier 1" aggro "decks" makes me want to kill myself
>Craft jade druid
>Attain a zen like state as my only goal is to outlast the aggro decks while shitting bigger and bigger green dudes onto the board
>Hit 5 with zero personal grief after tilting between 7 and 6 for 2 days with aggro decks.

Aggro not even once.
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>>162608446
I started playing it to farm golden heroes. Just make a braindead goface deck and play it on 2nd screen or at work. I literally dont know when was the last game i actually took seriously.
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>>162608446
im about to play dota 2 practically and im contemplating uninstalling hearthstone
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>>162608446
I moved over to shadowverse.

It's a better game, even if you absolutely hate weeb waifu shit with an autistic passion.
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I don't even know what to craft this point despite sitting on enough dust for 2 leggos.

I could try alexstraza but mage seems bad right now, honestly I kinda just wanna craft 2x fight promoters and wickerflame
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I want to make a White Eyes deck.

Am I going to regret this?
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>>162608746
I would rather play TF2, and TF2 is awful.
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>>162608746
And I thought blizzdrones were the shills.
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>>162608858
yes
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>>162608841
Jade is actually decent right now, so Aya wouldn't be bad.
Jade deathrattle tempo rouge is pretty good so n'zoth isn't bad either.
Other than that I'd say save it for a bit.
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>>162608885
Play whatever you want

>>162608941
They don't pay me. I like card games and Shadowverse is a card game, and it's a better card game than Hearthstone. I'm just stating facts.
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>>162605673
That's not exodia
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Post your homebrews.

Currently having fun with this at rank 10. Got down from 9 but now back on win streak.
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>>162609126
Shadowverse will probably be more fun when they get a larger cardpool. The 40 card requirement and limited amount of cards means 90% of decks are exactly the same, even if you try to make them interesting.
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which renolock deck should I run? also which reno mage deck should I run? i can't afford any other decks because I don't have any new legendaries and only pulled kazakus from my first packs
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>>162608945
already have both of those, haven't built a single jade deck honestly.

Maybe I'll finally craft Thalnos or something and try it out
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>>162609246
but I've played against that exact deck multiple times
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>>162608746
I just can't do it, the stupid weeb art kills it for me. The design in general makes me want to puke. I hate WoW warcraft design too but it's a touch better than weeb fan service.
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>>162609450
really? I have yet to see some interesting rogue deck. When I see one its either miracle or pirate/aggro. What rank are you at?
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>>162609713
I'm at rank 6 right now. I'll show you an interesting Rogue deck.
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>>162608746
I agree, it's a better game, but I can't switch over to it completely. Something just doesn't feel quite right about it. Everything feels sort of cheap, shabby and too grimdark
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So this is the reason why they can afford so many jades.
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>Do I keep deathwing off mulligan against warlock?
>No, surely that's not right...

I've never felt so punished
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>>162612420
>>162612420
>>162612420
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>craft patches
>always in opening hand
Fuck my shit up vg.
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