/rlg/ - Roguelike general!

>>162493075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6BL6QvKljo

>>162493075
i want to lick that tummy

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New demon? Appearently it's sprite also depends on what relic you chose. I feel that the "chill" doesn't spawn enemies as much as it should. In the changelog it says that a encounter not spawning should be rare, yet out of like the 15 times I've used it like 7 haven't spawned any thing. Same thing for corpses where I'll activate like 2 chills per floor and nothing will spawn like 50% of the time. good update overall though. Might make an account on the forums to bitch about stuff.

>>162493238
It has been in the game for quite a while, actually. It took me a while to git gud enough to make it through Anomaly semi-consistently, and I thought they were a new addition a few months ago. It turns out they have been in for quite a while.

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>>162493075

>>162493238
That might just be because we don't have enough ghosts yet

>>162492873
Give me leadership for vikhor you shitty branch I don't want memestag or usedgoods reeeeeeeeeeee

>>162493238
Nah, you just haven't made it to anomaly:3 often. Motherfucker and those rapist hands are the sole reason I drag a jiangshi through the game

What demon do you find the most flexible to use? I have currently ascended with druj nasus more than any other demon. Their huge cunning is nice and allows them to fuck with enemies in all kinds of ways, and only all but one or two physical modifiers aren't useful on them. I also like haietlik, even if I have only ascended with one so far; they're probably one of the best demons to have in Anomaly, certainly with light and/or dark attacks.

>>162489693
Asking again, what's slex?

>>162494556
SlashEm Extended is a meme nethack fork

>>162494556
Condensed autism. https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash'EM_Extended

>>162494556
Slash'em extended. Its a bad game developed by a bad women named Amy. Anyone who tells you that SLEX is good is most assuredly Amy. You should play it though just to experience it.

>>162490254
>>162490580

It's magic in a fantasy world. They probably don't even have physics the same as our world, so assuming that energy means the same thing as it does to us makes YOU the autistic retard.

>>162495383
t. autist

>>162494543
archangel or shisa
they can play a lot of different roles well

>>162495896
10/10 post

>>162494543
I think kasha is pretty awesome. It has amazing resists and a nice tanky/supportive skillset which can easily be expanded in very different ways.

>>162494543
Lifegiver Nero.

>>162496497
also this although kasha always feels extremely brittle in melee
bonus points for being found early on when it actually matters

>>162496714
>Not giving it one of the magic and resist elements
Lifegiver a shit. You'll find enough skills as you go.

>>162496243
Shisas are great and I like linking with them. I haven't done much with archangels yet, but I can see their potential.

>>162496497
>>162496753
Yeah, man. Demons with lots of resists are nice but it's often noticeable how easily they can get beaten up by melee brutes. Even ehlose, which have lots of resistances and decent strength with good vitality, aren't particularly strong versus demons like oni. Even then, they can be very versatile versus many other enemies.

>>162496714
Neros are good healers in the early game, if not the best healers, but I usually swap them for something else around the tenth floor.

>>162496805
Lifegiver a best you shit. I would rather have a dedicated healer and a blaster instead of a blasty/healer who runs out of SP immediately. Lifegiver Nero + Fotia/Aeithir + memetank like Actaeon or Vikhor is my go to combo up to like tower 9-10. haven't made it past tower 10 though so I don't know whats beyond that.

>>162497196
Gee wow darn shame I can't just get rid of its damage skills after I get that dank resist. Oh wait

>>162497196
better to make a holy nero, dump the light attacks, and copy healing abilities from other demons

>>162497196
You use the modifier for the resistances in this case, not for the abilities.

>>162497196
>>162497331
>>162497336
>>162497346
Amazing. All 4 Demon players in existence are in this thread right now.

>>162497576
I will bollocks your kaiju-hole sigmund.

>>162497576
kek. i havent played in months, maybe i'll try out the new update soon

Lifegiver does fare well, as good vitality on a healer gives it better chances at resisting status effects. I guess when it comes to such a healer with three weaknesses, a resistance-granting modifier may be useful. In the nero's case, the modifiers that cover its weaknesses tend to also favor cunning; it might not get as much mileage out of it, though, unless given veil abilities or a debuff cry.

I really love Baleful/Volcanic/Sulfurous Zaghs, they are just so wonderful at blasting fucking everything and the other immunities are absolutely splendid.

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>100% chance to cast spells

So, uh, what reduces manastorm damage?

>>162497779
Dying

>>162497779
He can also summon uniques. Relatively fragile, 7.5k hp 100 AC, but really unpleasant and difficult to kill due to teles and passwall. Crossing him out would be ideal for serpent though. Only worse uniques are Morgoth, Unicorn of Order and alike.

>>162497779
The chance of him double-turn manastorming you is so infinitesimally small that you may as well not play the game at all if you're worried about that risk.

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I think the goblin is his wife

>>162499035
deepest lore

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>>162499035
Oh wow!

>>162492873
>download pos
>dll not valid image
>yawn delete
shitpost

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>>162499351
>winBLOWS

>>162499035
I don't get it

>>162500729
Mob Cover and Low Profile are two of a goblin's abilities.

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Is there anything to do in the Labyrinth after you get the Cassel sword on the 100th floor, or should I focus on trying to beat the Abyss?

How is early dungeon the most dangerous part of Crawl according to some poll here earlier? I 100% always die somewhere in Lair with my gargoyles since komodo dragons and stuff like that. I don't get it, is it a meme?

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you faggots are killing yourselves on purpose aren't you
well fuck you all

>>162501102
It is because Komodos have a good chance of breaking through your armor as a gargoyle. Train dodging and use less heavy armor like ring mail. Remember your armor should only be double your dodging.

>>162501176
What ever would give you that impression?
I'm gonna top the relic wraith chart. :^D

>>162501176
I lost my thunder at this game a while ago. I am probably still one of the best players of the game, though.

>>162500729
Because it's not actually funny.

>>162501096
What is that game?
Is it actually a roguelike?

>>162501102
Gargoyles are pretty well set up for an easy early game, generally the pre-lair dungeon is considered to be hard, because you aren't as likely to have multiple identified emergency consumables. I feel like the devs are doing a good job at balancing out and this is becoming less true. Myself, I always die on my third rune for whatever reason.

>>162501375
Well that's not saying much since only 12 people play it.

>>162501286

I already know that since I have a gorillion of both 3 rune and 15 rune wins already. Mindless oTAB could just get me through early dungeon just fine but definitely not in Lair or anywhere above that for sure.

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intense boner

>>162501524
The title is in the picture.
It is a 3ds eshop title.
It is a Mystery Dungeon rip off that does it lacklusterly, but effectively. For 5ish dollars, I don't regret it.
/spoon feeding

>>162501176
Unlikely - no pounce means easily kiteable.

>>162501702
Never seen it posted here before, so I doubt you'll get much feedback here.

>>162501656
At least it makes me feel like I have done decently at something for once in my life.

>>162501681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX7zPlQjAr8

>>162501375
prove it noob

>>162501892
Currently I have fourteen wins and have posted perhaps all but one or two of them on here or own the forum for the game. I have only made it to a third cycle twice, though.

>>162501669
>Mindless oTAB could just get me through early dungeon just fine but definitely not in Lair or anywhere above that for sure.
The reasoning behind it is you have few guaranteed tools in early dungeon, but you should have some tools by Lair.

>>162501323
>:^D
hello ferret. When is next build coming out?

>>162502454
not that guy or ferret but relic wraiths all have level 1 HP so he's fixing that in tomorrow's build

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I couldn't handle Nodens yet, but I did take out Sauron.

So... I should activate this ring, right? I'd be a fool not to, right?

>>162502912
is there a purpose to this item or is just a trap if worn while un-id'd?

>>162501681
;_;7

>>162503559
It's for flavour, so bloat.

>>162502912
>speech of Heheh

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>>162502912
Note to self: Do not use Darnya on self. I lost what appears to be 8 stat potions' worth of stats from each attribute. Activating it against an enemy creates a manastorm-like attack. But since it's a garbage ring otherwise, it's mundanity time.

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Ayy

I already fought this wraith on this floor

>>162505536
Man, it didn't occur to me before that aurastrike is what goes well with the elemental breaths and possibly maul.

We Have Turduk and Vikhor, who is the third to complete the memedancer trio?

>>162505846
Does it actually go well with them, though?
Sounds like that 4 cooldown on both breaths at once will fuck it over hard.

>>162506024
Ah, you're right. I can imagine the attack after the breath doing lots of damage, though.

>>162505954
Literally? Stag

>>162505536
This does look good,

>>162505846
I once had a fun run with aurastrike and earth break. some elemental thing to enable hueg AoE damage that early in the game is pretty cool.

>>162505536
>wraiths aren't deleted after they are slain

everyone should just suicide on the last floor instead of winning

which sounds better- an arbitrary high score, or your ghost murdering people for all eternity (or at least till ferret resets the online files with a new build)

>>162505954
SCARAB
C
A
R
A
B

seriously, light dark immune, resists slash and pierce, 130% base speed? Scarabs are fucking savage

>>162507389
The thing is that people can just stop gathering corpses to avoid triggering wraith encounters entirely, completely bypassing ghostscumming. Kinda sad that Ferret didn't make them appear as a normal summoner spawn.

>>162508334
They're pretty rough though. Basically a paraclesus-lite after a couple floors.

>>162508334
>Kinda sad
You mean kinda good that he didn't increment his online implementation to the next obnoxious level.

Hey fuckers can you make a bunch of characters and start dying all around the tower? I just got 5 chills that passed without incident in a row.

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HOLY CHRIST IT'S TIME TO PANIC

DEATH CURSES ARE NO JOKE, BROS

>>162509249
>no paralyis
You'll be fine, I mean it's just hasted Morgoth, a hasted Cyberdemon, and maybe one of the unique angels? I can't remember their colours, right?

>>162509050
I'm going to suicide on tower:20

you wanna fight my ghost you gonna work for it boi

>>162509050
Well the way he implemented ghosts was that you have to be within 1-2 levels of the ghost AND on the near floor that the ghost died on. So if you're over or underleveled I guess you won't get many ghosts. Now that I think about it, this same thing actually happened to me when I went into a branch, got bonus exp, then harvested corpses in the tower AFTER the branch.

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>>162509249
>>162509640
Safe with the One Ring in hand! Loot was pretty junk otherwise, though, and I burned through numerous *healing*.

>>162509698
>tower 20
whats the point. Don't people just rush the exit portal at that point?

>>162510202
It doesn't count as a real win if you don't clear Tower: 20, including Antoria.

>>162510202
The guy he's responding to wants to fight ghosts though.

>>162510202
Well if we all start suiciding on 20 then I might do the same, and try to kill all the ghosts I can there. The problem is that he made the appearance of the ghosts level dependent, and levels will vary widely in Tower:20

>>162510487
>Well if we all start suiciding on 20
Most of us here are probably over 20

>>162510782
ESL tier.

I just realized if I want to leave a really fuck-awful Tower:20 ghost I'll need to get rid of my uniques


Luckily I'm rich as a sultan from Recycle

>>162511041
Note that unique modifiers can still show up on other demons with it, just not uniques.

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>>162510782

Guys help. I've fallen in love with Amy because she is so smart, and intelligent, and creates amazing nethack forks with lots of clever choices and not dumb shit so I want to marry her!

>>162504501
i believe it chooses a random option from a list of several possible effects

What's a good roguelike for a homosexual?

>>162512224
Any of them.
They are all for fags and by fags.

>>162512224
SLEX is literally made by a literal dyke

>>162512224
slashem extended, if you are a girl

>>162512416

How is playing turnbased games related to homosexuality?

>>162512627
It's too passive and too abstract

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Trust no one, not even yourself

>>162512830

Hmm that certainly is too deep for my 2 (two) int brain to understand.

>>162513293
>38 HP

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Remember folks, if you're gonna fault, do it in style!

>>162513293
>9 turns elapse
Run nigga run.

>>162513293
>38 hp
Use a flame rune? Is there such a thing?

>>162513293
>mirror chime
fault.

>>162509249
What the hell is an amberite anyway?

>>162513484
How are your stats?

Or the lack thereof.

>>162512627
>not liked by the mass public in pure form
>plebified derivatives are enjoyed by the wannabe hardcore normies
>associated with being persecuted for no fault of the person
>as a result of the above, correlated with problems in life
>falsely accused of causing larger, non-personal problems

>>162513798
>How are your stats?

I never got em back into normal Monkish stats, but I did end up dying in the most faulty way possible by being burned up by the sun and a Fenornian Lamp

>>162513795
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Amber

Characters originally implemented in Zangband. So while Angband was a Tolkien-focused game, Zangband was sort of like the base game with a Chronicles of Amber expansion pack added to it.

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>>162513293
It was actually not that hard to kill because I could just ruin it's bugged HP and then sudden chill/icebreak the rest of the dudes.

Anyway I cleared tower 20 then killed myself with my other mirror chime.

COME GET MY GHOST LADS (Once you upgrade to 12/12 all ghosts will be back to having normal HP)

>>162514509
It looks like only your PC and the cherufe are the only things not vulnerable to fire and/or electricity attacks.

>>162514807
his ghost will be vulnerable to fire

>demon
>wtf are these races/classes
>readread
>enterenterenterenterenter
>you are surrounded by blank space
>not doing much damage
>ok fine press a
>fail fail fail die
who what where does artifact even
pokemon no pokemon apparent POKEMON goal POKEMON
weird

>>162499351
>>162514991
Don't do that.

What's a good roguelike for an autist and why is it Nethack?

>>162515247
Elona+

>>162514807
Just bring your Huo Sho and Raicho and rek my face then

I resisted the urge to put Alluring Gaze on every demon

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12/12 demon build is out with fixed ghost HP!

>>162515174
+5, Informative

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>playing a Hobbit Ninja
>start is rough, and still is tough, but the mobility is nice
>see this

What did the game mean by this?

>>162516561
free buttplug

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How can I further improve this? I'm not sure if I should use the rifle scope/ironsights/offset ironsights.

>still need to find a gunsmith repair kit before I can make a rapid blowback
I also have basic power armor and can make a table on casters. Can you deploy over a vehicle/quarterpanel? If so, I'll drag around a quarterpanel.

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This fucking guy.

>>162515247
Because it requires the memorization of a shitton of useless trivia and no skill whatsoever

>>162512075
Are you a woman? If not, you have no chance in hell. Sorry. Sincerely, Your Beloved Amy.

>>162516561
you drop one of those behind you whenever you use the "teleport when you get hit" ability

just like in my chinese cartoons

>>162516908
What's the point? I find CDDA pointless after a week or so unless I deliberately put myself into danger.

>>162518637
To have a big gun.

>>162509874
What combo are you anyway?

>>162514991
Are you ten or something?

>>162516908
Shoulder strap. The gun is fucking huge

>>162516908
You can deploy on(?) a mound of dirt so you can carry around a hoe.

>>162521030
Digging takes time.

>>162520945
I'll be wielding it long before any danger happens. It's a shame the shoulder strap doesn't allow me to fire it undeployed, but I'd probably never hit anything anyway.

>>162521147
It's only like 10 turns to hit a [hoe key] and get a mound. Just pull shit back to it or use noise shit to pull. It's not like noise makers or explosives are expensive.

>>162521321
I know how mounds work. I didn't ask about mounds. I asked about quarterpanels.

Dragging a quarterpanel takes no extra turns.

>>162510782
wew

>>162516908
this post makes me want to play a borderlands roguelike (based on 1, not 2's terrible scaling/drop mechanics)

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Have any of you guys played euo?

>>162520456
do you have a strange thing on your head
what is it like
does it make you pokemon
does it make you pokemon a lot
in a tower
is that your corpse
can i have your stuff
yes here it is
i have your stuff
i got it from your corpse
soon you will be able to take it from my corpse
nothing i can do about it
thank you video games
oh wait no
i'm not playing that game
i'm playing 4chan
haha
NO I'M NOT A ROBOT
are you ten
puleez
look an eyeroll
i'm nine
do you want to read my blog
it's not a tumblr
SUSHI SUSHI SUSHI THERE's YOUR !@#$ING SUSHI AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGG
who made this game anyway
SUSHI SUSHI SUSHI OK OK OK
bump
tummies
STREET SIGNS WOW OK VERIFY

>>162524513
*lets out an extremely loud fart*

>>162517326
i resent the implication that i only ascended because wikis
reading comprehension is a skill
dwarven valkyries are better than minotaur berzerkers
they just are
admit it
also no otab in nethack
feature

>Nu-demon release
Great time to evade this place like the plague for the next two weeks

>>162525296
Or just post sil and shit instead of being a bitch

>>162524621
exceeds my attention span
wow somebody slap me already
not a fake slap
a real slap
a wake up slap
a cut that out slap
no
you can't
i have to slap myself
*slap*
pinch for pain
use nails
*pinch*
*urge to play roguelike rising*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WAAAAAAKE UUUUUUUUUUPPPPP
*pinchpinchpinchpinchpinch*

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>>162526154

>>162526236
is this SLEX? can /rlg/ finally score a win?

>>162526364
It is, but was my first ascension, and has been done long ago. Although I do have a promising lostsoul monk that made it into Gehennom (the lost soul mode was "stolen" from ToME 2.3.5).

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>>162525638
>sil
TARGET ACQUIRED

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>>162526994
LEWD

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Greetings Elona players, from the creator of Melugas Airfield and Propman's CNPC pack comes a breakthrough in custom content and my early holiday gift to you: Ice Keep - the first full-length custom dungeon to have graced Elona!

>http://www.mediafire.com/file/6zd41rsvwchvgg5

>Five forbidding floors including frosty fiends and penguin cuisine, princesses and primordial beasts, and festive cheer and chilling fear, topped with heated action to keep your veins from freezing. Witness the thrill of broken potions as you bathe yourself in the cleansing cool of ice, and don't fall into the water! Are you a bad enough dude to save Christma- er, the Festival of Jure? Find out today! (Recommended levels 14+, though you're generally good to go if you can beat Fire Tower.)

One thing the readme doesn't specify, if you for some reason want to remove the dungeon: pressing backspace while going downstairs will prompt a regeneration of the particular level you're entering, which will overwrite the dungeon file with a randomized floor.

And a space to contain my other works, for those who have missed them before:

>CNPC Pack 1.2 (Req. 1.62 or higher) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/kd6dym5txs445bo
>Blades Inc. (Level 40 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/u31fi1a1i0bhmzd
>Melugas Airfield (Level 120 Adventure) - http://www.mediafire.com/file/avghxk81eo9bge9
>Ol-moran (City showcase w/ an optional replacement floor for Lesimas) - https://www.mediafire.com/?i18wzpqaoisce6q

Happy holidays /rlg/!

the orb doesnt auto pickup does it?

>>162532410
Not unless you set it up in your rc.

Does anyone have that rc script that picks up armor items that you have a slot open for?

>>162532629
This: https://bpaste.net/raw/811e2ed38a06 ?

>>162532410
It does. I'll step on it and it'll suck it up.

>>162532897
Yeah, thanks dude.

>>162532952
Nevermind, I apparently have an undiagnosed case of g-itis

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More flavor-stuff.
I gotta make it pick the monsters more better ( perhaps take it from how quest-monsters a picked ), and make it reject too long names, as fun as Ultimate Dung is.

>>162533694
House with 1,000 slots when?

>>162529175
I want to genocide hungry sea lions.

Wouldn't mind satiated ones, though.

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>>162534256
Maybe. I haven't checked how they work.
Anyway, I think this works rather nicely now. I think I could enforce flavour, but it is already rather complicated.

>>162535581
I'm liking this
Will bring me back into the game

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>>162534256
It was actually super-easy.
Breaks saves, probably.

>>162538327
Test it for overflows by actually depositing that many items there. I remember that ToME choked when raising the limit higher than 255.

>>162538517
Well, considering the museum holds STORE_MAX_STOCK * 50, and the home now STORE_MAX_STOCK * 40, it might not break.
I should probably still test...

>>162538620
...And the game doesn't save more than 240 items in home. Good catch, I'll try to fix that.

>>162538987
Fixed. The saves don't actually break, since it saves the whole inventory, and then reads the size of current shop.
So you would lose items if you downsize, but nothing would happen if you enlarge.

Oh well. Hopefully it works well.

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gee bill

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gg boys I have found my coffin

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Also since new names can be kinda confusing ( might be difficult to distinguishing fixed artifacts and random artifacts ), I added this thing to sorta clarify things up.

>>162540349
Nice.

>>162540349
Are you actually going to wear that?

>>162541191
I'm in Vaults right now and I'm going to go down to V:4 then put it on and do Elf since it'll give me my fifth pip of magic resistance. I might leave it on for Depths but I have a +1 CPA too so I'll probably just use that.

>>162533694
Does anything weird happen if you happen to roll something identical to a fixedart (like the leather jacket of ubbo-sathla or similar)?

>>162543137
Presumably the items are tied to an ID rather than the name itself, so nothing would happen. Unless that's wrong.

>>162543137
It just picks the name and cuts it slightly ( ex. letters after ',' and 'of' and 'the' are omitted. ).
It also checks if the creature is sort of prohibited one. Olympians already have artifacts to their name, so they are forbidden, and so are bunch of other uniques. I also forbid some particular uniques that don't work well with the cutting up ( like Mouth of Sauron, who would just become Mouth ).

>>162544001
Regarding the prohibited uniques: uniques that have an artifact to them. For example, Quaker, Atlas, Multihued Centipede, etc.

>>162541191
You wouldn't? Teleport is for scrubs who need crutches cause they can't pick fights worth shit.

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>can't get mpaellipsoPCBR to compile
>not with mvs2010 or mvs2012
>refuse to download mvs2013 because fuck 6.1GB of hogshit
>won't even build with BuildTools2013
>registry and path problems out the ass
>not even stackoverflow knows what the fuck is going on

This wouldn't be happening if I was still using Linux.

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I did it guys!

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>>162548008
Gz anon! Keep it up!

>>162548008
alt+pnrtscr

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ayy wheres da rune tho???

>>162548008
Has cropping gone too far?

>>162548593
>Elf
>Rune
Oh you sweet summer child

>>162548593
In abyss

>>162548404
Doesn't work without an x server, no?

>>162548719
What??

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>>162548704
>>162548701
got 'em

Can you make staves wands and rods stack in PCB like they used to
I don't want to carry 5 staves of healing only because I don't have demonic grasp

>>162549319
Not sure if that's possible without reviewing/redoing device code in general. The problem is that devices have differing power and recharge rates from each other ( ex. one staff of destruction might have under 200 power, another could have higher ).

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lol who cares about haste

>>162550718

what's in the trove? I've never been able to access one.

>>162551209
items of varying quality which are almost never worth the cost to enter

in my case a bunch of cloaks and gloves, two of which were upgrades from what I was wearing.

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oh my god

>>162552061
You're fine, even if you weren't, just read noise, fog, or zap lightning. Oh wait!

>>162547813
It sucks that there's no way for software developers to release executables of their own software.

>>162554041
I had rCorr anyway, so it wasn't a big deal, but I can imagine how frustrating that situation might be for a different character.

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I guess I live here now.

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>>162554192
>>162547813

https://my.mixtape.moe/qvhqgs.zip

Here's the build.

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How do people do this?

>>162555945
Also how the hell do you win with 10-15k turns?

>>162555945
take a look at their overall winrates

>>162555945
How can you get slimy that early, do you worship jiyva or what?

>>162556787
Yes, obviously.

And for serpentine you get teleported by a naga mage into the rune room, grab the rune, then die.

>>162557023
How in the hell you get 6 piety that fast then?

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This has to be one of the most prepared characters I've ever had, going into Zot, if not the absolute most. I wish I had more MR but everything with MR was gloves and rings and I think the rF is more valuable. No other hats or boots spawned all game.

>>162557127
Not sure how it is now, but in older versions slimes became peaceful as soon as you started worshiping.

>>162555945
Also note that aside all but one are at least six years old, which is like twelve versions ago.

>>162557127
Let jellies eat everything? These characters are almost certainly spriggans so they can run away from everything and not have to fight.

>>162556787
a spriggan of nogod until you get to the bottom of lair and go Jyiva.
Spriggan would work fine with enchanter since you could technically get very few levels and put everything in stealth and hexes to creep away from danger and sleep/confuse trash mobs that do wake up since pre-lair everything has horrible MR.
Plus you can just grab every single item on the floor and male your jellies eat them for free piety and satiation.

I hope that you don't have to actually win a dude to get the in the power ranking.
Is it .18/trunk only?
I think I could pull it off.

You know what I really want for CDDA?
More starting regions or biomes, or someshit.
Like I remember having lot of fun in Dead Island, not because it had good gameplay, but because the tropical island resorts setting looked fun.
Or for example to be in some eastern european shithole, like in STALKER, wouldn't it be fun.
Like they have already planned adding different starting regions in the future, I feel like it would really add the whole new flavor to the game if actually done.
What location would you want your game of CDDA to be, anon?

I need a bit clarification on Innocence in Demon. Do you get the bonus when you have full hp or versus opponents at full hp?

>>162561194
I believe it's against full hp opponents.
It's particularly useful in landing debuffs and can also be used for huge AoE damage with light/dark.

Suicided on tower 8 so theres a ghost around the 9k score area. Theres a real lack of ghosts right now so once you get to the upper tower a lot of chills will pass with nothing happening. It would be nice if ferret added some Wraiths at the upper floors.

Why do they keep shortening branches? Elf used to be 7 floors deep!

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ez lol

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Talk shit, get hit, Nodens. Not so tough after I put on that ring of destruction, are you?

>>162567430
Congratulations.
Pretty swift ascension timewise-too.

>>162568826
>75k turns
>fast

>>162555884
Thanks fampai.

>>162568826
Thanks. I'm going to do a GrGl^Oka next, I bet that'll be even easier.

>>162557462
>>162557476
Yeah i know the slimes and all those are peaceful but you need a shitton of items to get 6 piety

>>162557613
PIETY

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>Japanese in charge of interesting and tactical situations

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There are actual aspersions on the player's ancestry cast by demons in slex now. For that, the Amy went ahead and put about 75k worth of "your mom" jokes in the respective function.

>>162570871
New release when?

>>162570871
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/aef71b82751e6fec919a661061d279572e000bf9/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/insult.txt

>>162571679
Hopefully soon, although I can't give an exact date.

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somehow more satisfying than getting to lair
because there is a villain
if there is treasure but no villain
why even level really
have to get through chaff
but it's just chaff
with dubious sense of purpose
also no otab is double plus good

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>30 minutes and 100 worms/jackatls/floating eyes/fruit bats later
>3 (THREE) d0
The grind is real.

What else do I need for the Serpent? Besides balls of steel. Does he disenchant stuff like stoneskin, vengeance, etc.? Am I going to be fighting him with 23 speed because of disenchanted haste?

>>162574087
>moria
how is it compared to Angband?

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>>162576065
Whoops.

>>162563383
>Suicided on tower 8
sure, let's call it a suicide

>>162576265
>>162576065
He dispels all and often. Nothing is sacred. Buffing is often a waste of turns.
He is a charge drainer who summons charge drainers all around you, so I hope you have demonic grasp if you wish to rely on your staves.
Try it out, see how it works for you.

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Well?

>>162577115
If you want to have fun do it

>>162576065
You can use the monster recall town service on the serpent to see what he does before fighting him.

>>162576265
You want destruction scrolls (don't destruct the serpent) and food (he can hit to hunger) at least.

>>162576065
Serpent does dispel your shit and casts anti-magic, as well.
It is a also super-fast, +45 speed.

But biggest issue is summons. Generally, what you want to do is fight it on 1v1, and in destructed terrain so you can block LoS easily by phase doors. If he summons uniques, best course of action is probably to fuck off immediately with tele, destruct uniques that follow ( remember that destruction can delete uniques - just don't do it on serpent, since it will just cause it to respawn with full health. Although I guess you could do so in pinch ), and re-prep for serpent.

Get ton of scrolls of destruction. TONS.
Staves get drained / destroyed, so don't rely on them too much. Most of threatening uniques are resistant to teleports ( unique + resistant to teleportation = immune to tele ).

As for its offensive, it has rockets ( 600 damage ), some nasty breaths ( chaos, mana, nether, toxic waste and disintegration ), rather damaging auras... Plus casts Hand of Doom, so you have to be on ball with your speed so you won't get double-turned.
To be honest, chugging potions of speed might be ok, since even if it dispels them, it wasted a turn doing that.

So what I am seeing from your inventory, your biggest issue is that you don't have any ?Destructions with you.

>>162577510
What are the destruction scrolls for? Don't they sort of just shuffle terrain and not get rid of enemies?

>>162577115
>can't even use it against plants for freexp anymore

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>>162577510
Oh yeah, and food is really important, since you don't want to be fainting from hunger during fight ( it drains nutrients )

>>162577964
They fuck up terrain AND attempt to delete all enemies within range. This is different from killing - it affects uniques ( the uniques get pushed out of the floor, unless they are quest-monsters ). They can resist, so keep yourself on guard.

You really want to have a healthy stack of them, since it is one of the most efficient way of ridding of unwanted uniques. Plus, destructed terrain is excellent place to fight in.

See image. That's how much I destructed and teled around on my kill. I even uncorked invulnerability to finish it off.

>>162577903
>what you want to do is fight it on 1v1, and in destructed terrain so you can block LoS easily by phase doors
I know this is an old tactic but is it really good? you don't want him to get too close to you (and with 45 speed (55 hasted!) over 23 he will doublemove a lot) but that sounds the most efficient way for him to do that.

>>162578324
Oh yeah, and just incase it was unclear, Serpent tunnels 3x3 area around it.

>>162578424
If you don't get too lucky, chances are you land outside of the LoS of the serpent. If the situation is urgent, you should probably tele out instead ( ex. summons, don't want to risk it, etc. )

Serpent doesn't have haste, thankfully.

>>162578590
>Serpent doesn't have haste
Are you sure?
I'm pretty damn sure I saw him getting faster.

Is it true you can easily win Angbamd by just grinding like crazy?

>>162578863
It's possible he shattered a speed potion with a rocket.

>>162492873
What game is the OP picture from? I'm new here.

>>162578863
S:S_MONSTERS | BR_CHAO | BA_CHAO | ROCKET | S_CYBER | S_KIN |
S:BR_NETH | BR_MANA | S_HI_UNDEAD | S_HI_DRAGON | S_UNIQUE |
S:BR_NUKE | BR_DISI | HAND_DOOM | DISPEL | ANTI_MAGIC

Chances are >>162579876 happened.

Which version of poschengband should I be playing?

>>162576374
No bully plz. First time I made it out of anomaly.

>>162580131
5.03 is fine. All these forks with long add names change stuff you usually won't understand for your first few characters. Turn easy id and easy lore on.

>>162580024
Demon! With its latest two updates, it has become noticed once more.

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post online DCSS stats

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ara ara my first artifact

>>162547813
msvc 2012 and earlier have an irrational hatred for variable declarations anywhere other than the start of blocks

>>162580131
5.0.3 will do, just turn on easy_id/easy_lore, or just go try your hand at beginner-mode.

Pseudo is for some fixes and quality-of-life changes.

Poschengband R is mostly gameplay-changes. Changelog is here:

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR/PseudoellipsisposchengbandR/PCB-R%20changelog.txt

Man, the spam-filter is annoying to get around.

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>>162582257
>+12
>3.3 blows per round
>cold brand

the game will kill me horribly now

>>162548008
Anon, what in the actual fuck
>Corgox HOBe-27 - starved to death(Zot:1)
how does this even happen

>>162518637
not him, but, I'm using Pks reimagining, wanderspawn and disabled power armor, and the tension lasts for a pretty fucking long time. Thats not even counting modified enemy/item spawn rates.

>>162582962
My guess is that the version is 0.17 where Death Cobs had satiation-draining attacks.

>>162583162
Ah, I had never been to Zot until 0.19, that sounds annoying as fuck, even more than death cobs are currently.

>>162575278
there is a cap to how hueg it can get based on the ded monster's level

it can't gain dice if the monster level is less than dice * sides and it can't gain enchantment if the level is less than tohit+todam+15

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>tfw your friends give you alphabet game themed gifts

>>162585596
>not several cans of alphabet soup
>most of which are empty
>one of which is springloaded with explosives
>just like a roguelike in real life

>>162585596
that's some sweet loot anon

so, which one is more.. well, more, SLASH'EM or SLASHTHEM?

>>162582257
>>162582665
the *thancs are really nice early...light enough to easily get a lot of blows, etc. Don't forget the activation can be sometimes useful

>>162585596
>A statue of a statue of Xom.
>It is cheerful.

>>162585596
Ugliest frame. But damn...

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should i continue? i already cleared zot to the orb

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>>162589419
I'm surprised you got this far.

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I GOTTA GO FAST AND TURDAK IS TOO FAR AWAY

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/rlg/enies, how the fuck to I play nethack

>>162590480
More like why the fuck would you play nethack

anyway
Spoilery Method- read the wiki to learn all the dumb spoilery tricks

Nonspoilery- play 9001, times giving lots of your money to the oracle to sometimes learn dumb spoilery tricks. Be sure to write down a lot of stuff on paper. Careful observers will realize this is functionally identical to reading the wiki, only you have to write the wiki yourself.

>>162590720
and lots of the tips are straight up incorrect

guess im just gonna win again. this is getting boring

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>>162591719
if anyone wants to watch

http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-Ketziah

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>>162590720
chrome is being shit and I can't download nethack. thanks for the tip though

>>162591938
why the fuck are you doing a chinese pyramid deathtrap supreme while you have the orb

>>162591967
yes im sure its somehow the browser's fault

I remember an anon saying that he had pictures of the various demons in Demon like 2 months ago. If you or someone else have them can you post pictures of Turduk, Vikhor, and
I guess another speedy demon? Need them for reasons.

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>>162592183
i dunno, wanted to go in at least a few floor. i wasnt going to try to do the whole thing

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>>162592525
What, like the sprites? I have a slightly old sheet

Pelesit (the cricket), Raiju, Raicho, Ilomba, Dipsas, Scarab, and probably some others I'm forgetting are fast

>>162592841
Akateko and carbuncles are the two other fast ones.

Oh yeah, and gremlins too.

>>162592841
Gremlins are 130% speed too

>>162587481
the emergency frostbolt is pretty nice

do i need to worry about ancient foul curses, or can i wear stuff willy nilly if it shows up as [special]?

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My balls are literally shriveled up 10 inches into my abdominal cavity right now.

>>162595037
there is no AFC in vanilla angband, nor any regular curses either i think

there are a few heavily cursed artifacts, which i think show up as {terrible} but they might not
there is no remove curse scroll but you can possibly uncurse items by using ?*enchant weapon*

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I didn't know a 4th meme tank so I just put Headless in even though most people just use him for his modifier not as an actual tank. Recommendations would be appreciated

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awoo

>>162597328
>holy trinity
>clearly 4

I'm sorry anon but your meme has not been approved

but use Python instead of Headless

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IT'S HAPPENING

>>162597328
HOLY TRINITY
IT'S TRI
3
MAKE IT TETRAD

>>162597328
I find Headless pretty good for what he is. All he really needs beyond his base abilities is oppressor to last the entire current game.

>>162598393
crossing my fingers for an energyrandomization doubleturn doublefailtoresist hand of doom

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>>162598403
>>162598271
>God (1) is the Father (2), the Son (3) and the Holy Spirit (4)
Retards.

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>>162598678
>polytheism
please leave, this thread is only for real roguelikes and/or religions

>>162598867
In this moment I am eurphoric, not because of any phony pantheon's blessing but because I'm ****** with Trog.

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>>162598393
THE SERPENT IS DOWN

I REPEAT

T H E S E R P E N T I S D O W N

>>162598525
didn't even get manastormed once, the worst was a rocket now and then. He also didn't dispel haste/heroism/protection from evil. Summons were the biggest worry, Morgoth visited 4 times.

>>162599632
Whats happens if you go down the staircase?

>>162599729
You have to fight the Ancient Wyrm of Chaos.

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>You avoid the Security Bot's projectile!

Nigga what

>>162599632
congratulations!

>>162599729
In most Angbands the eponymous dungeon is 127 floors deep, even though the boss is on 100 and floors 101+ don't open until the boss is down (this is true in vanilla with Morgy and in various variants with the Serpent)

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>>162599632
Looks like a shieldmaster, but which race were you?

>>162599632
omedetou

>destroying a third spellbook as a warrior gives around 2k exp
This wasn't worth the lines of code it took to implement it.

Hey oook ladder people, is it kosher to post a win if you're not necessarily done playing the character? I'd like to do a few endgame things yet, so I'm not ready to neck myself.

>>162600820
demigod pride worldwide

>>162599632
Serpent doesnt have mana storm.
>>162601341
Yeah

>>162600672
There is a weak accuracy-reducing effect from dodge on projectiles.
It weakens with projectile speed, so it is rare for bullets, but it happens once in a while.

>>162585596

pretty cool.

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welcome to the lair of beasts

>>162604447
not as bad as the elf hall layout you get sometimes

>>162604447
the price for falling for the dual wielding meme

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>Uncle Oka grants you a gift!
>7 arrows

>>162604447
< tab x ee ctrl+g >

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goodvariant

>>162605648
It's really good when 5 damage is a lot

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>>162608258
so d:1?
lol

>>162606792
rip

>>162606792
not so lucky now, nerd

>>162606792
>bad alphabet game is coded in a bad alphabet language
poetry

>>162606792
>>162609160

AHAHAHAHAH

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Ghost battle!

Will I triumph over this monster???

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>>162609886
Turns out yes, popped some pure gems and threw ball lightning.

What the fug is the armor value of the alloy plating CBMs? The only info I can find says 3/3 which would be piss weak so I'm hoping it can't be right.

>>162610492
It is piss weak.
But CBM limits aren't enforced, so install them anyway.

>>162609886
>>162610030
i can't see meme needle builds being too threatening, they're single target and kind of fragile

>>162610553
Thanks,

I try to follow the limits anway just so I don't end up with every CBM ever like I have in the past

>>162610626
They can become twice as threatening by adding meme shoutigns :--DDD to it.
Shout has stun on it and also applies all the other statuses.

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>>162610626
Yeah, in my opinion lategame is all about ranged AoE. Though brutes like what that guy had are pretty scary.

Don't get me wrong if I didn't have a supply of pure gems I probably woulda been fucked because the status effects were stacking up hideously... Nightbringer was probably a mixed blessing for them because it made them stop attacking the sleepers.

Plus I had quick summon/dismiss which was great.

So I dunno. Maybe against a different character memeneedle ghosts would be more terrifying.

>>162610956
Nightingale is probably really good versus such ghosts. It goes well with a demon that gets dismissed while having regeneration on it.

>>162610956
not picking up at least quick dismiss by mid-game is a mistake, but i could see aoe status being especially brutal without it

or if you're a melee dude/veil tank