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I ban him, I ban him edition

pointed down: >>162288996
>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Reminder that twinks are noskill shitters who can't invade for shit and get mad when they don't have a huge advantage like in ds1.
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>>162374751
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performance increasing mods when?
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>>162374237
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About to start my first DARK SOULS game on the PC. Starting with DARK SOULS III. What can I expect?
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>>162374929

Definitely going to commit a crime.
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>>162375180
lots of homolust
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>>162374797
What the fuck is wrong with her arms
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>>162375180
>Starting with DARK SOULS III. What can I expect?

Remember that timing of dodgerolls is more important than to WHERE you're dodging. You can dodge right INTO an enemy's attack just as long as your timing is right.

Other than that, there are no pointers honestly. Explore as much as you can, check your inventory for Estus flask shards before leaving Firelink into a proper level and so on.

DS3 is the most straightforward souls game aside from Slashy Souls so it's pretty self-explanatory honestly.

>>162374237
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>>162375180

You shouldn't start with a sequel. If you want to get into this series start with DeS, DaS or BB.
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Can someone make Yukaslegion face sliders for DS3?
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does nobody twink the settlement anymore? sitting here dry fingering myself and nothing
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>>162375562
that's hot
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>Be UGS user
>Swap to 2handing a shield to counter quickstep fags
lmao
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>>162376021
>not switching to pocket CCS
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>>162375180

>''hmm, these Souls are pretty good I've heard and they look fun as well. I should play it.''
>''let me see here.....Demon's Souls, a few Dark Souls games, Bloodborne......''
>''alright, it's obvious, I should start with the 3rd Dark Souls game. Seems logical''

Why do people like you do this.

Do you have brain problems?
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>>162376021
>not one-handing it and parrying them
lmao
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>>162376098
Yeah, I'm not become the fag to beat a fag.
Something about slapping a shield on someone's face feels good as hell.
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>>162376227
Fight fire with fire my man.
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>>162376226
I can never get parries like that. So I just don't lmoa
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>>162376226
My favourite thing about quickstep is how it locks you out of your rolling attack and yet is ONLY included on weapons where their rolling attack is objectively better than their R1.

Probably the single worst pvp WA in the game now that Neck Swipe has been buffed.
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>>162376382
it isn't hard almo
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>>162376587
seems pretty hard for me lamo
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>>162376689
just press l2 at the end of all their quicksteps oalm
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>>162376907
they usually *teleport behind me* *backstab* *legion etiquette* *gay bow* at me if I do that, so I just stopped trying aolm
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>>162376548

u wot

2H R1 on daggers is fucking amazing and their best attack by far
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>>162376226
Are you the anon who's run around with the Pontiff Knight Curved Sword in the past?
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>>162377145
they have to stop quickstepping to do that, so just attack normally
you should ALWAYS try to be the parry king malo

>>162377332
no curved swords are for queers LeMayo
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[points down]
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>>162377329
The 2HR1 comes out slower than the 2H rolling attack and doesn't combo into a followup; they both have the same range. There's never a time where you would want to have the 2HR1 come out after an evasive action instead of a 2H rolling attack, which is why having quickstep force the former at the cost of the latter is so silly. It was designed to deliberately be suboptimal. Good dagger players will spend much more time rolling than quickstepping because the quickstep puts them at a frame disadvantage against anything faster than a UGS while rolling actually gives you options.
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>>162377428
like i said i can't attack normally while 1handing because i use a fucking ugs normally
i'd rather just slap a shield on instead of trying to be a parry king for epic montages olam
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Guise. Are there any weapons well suited to a pyro/melee build?

Like, something that either scales well with int and fth or dark on its own, or any weapons well suited for buffing/resining.
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>>162377645

You forgot the extra iframes on Quickstep and extra range on regular R1.
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>>162377672
you don't need to attack normally because you're going for a fucking riposte you silly goose
no excuses loam
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>>162377824
Onyx blade, dark longsword are the basic ones.
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If you are in here Hildiga, that was a fantastic duel. You were pretty good with that dagger and I was pretty good with my sword. I probably won because of estus advantage but still, great fight.
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>>162378035
You said
>they have to stop quickstepping to do that, so just attack normally
And that's not a quickstep enemy .
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>they still exist
ironic death tho
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How do the Dark souls 2 DLC stack up from best to worst?
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>>162378446
I see them from time to time on the arena, so yeah.
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>Buff fags
Fucking laughing my ass off hard for real f᠎a᠎m a lama
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>>162378687
>Applause
erry time
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>>162378687
>duel charm fags
oh no my dark pine whatever will I do
jk I'm laughing

>>162378440
you said
>i can't attack normally while 1handing because i use a fucking ugs normally
and I proved that you didn't need to, quickstep or not omla
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>>162378634
Ivory
Burnt
Sunken
in my opinion, but really I love them all
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>>162378941
you are changing the goalpost, the target is fight against quickstep
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unPSHBCLlIA

DaS2 pvp was perfect

Return to Drangleic when?
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>>162379179
The most fun I ever had in pvp out of any souls game was definitely bellfagging as a royal swordsman at low soul memory
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>>162379179
but people still play DS2 sotfs that is
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>>162378295
You're a fucking shitter and I'd have won if you weren't addicted to your sippies in a "duel".

>good
>SS
Read what you say before posting, faggot.
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uh oh, she's onto us lads...
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Zweihander or Astora Greatsword? What do you guys think?
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>>162379163
I proved that 1handing was irrelevant so go ahead and parry quickstep along with everything else
that's not moving the goalposts
look, don't argue with me just because you can't parry son, I'm only saying how it do
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>>162379179
>DaS2 pvp was perfect
>Helixdons
>5body buffs
>many other overpowered retarded shit before nerfs
Let's not kid ourselves, it was fun as fuck but not perfect.
And I do miss many cool weapons, i-frame backstepping, 2H ultra parry, better riposte and backstab animation, among other stuff
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>>162379619
whatever fag suck my dick
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>>162379551
Profaned
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Which souls characters would its lead developer definitely insert his hard, throbbing nippon cock into?
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>>162379535
what the fuck is even that
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>>162379901
P U F F Y
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>>162379687
none of that exists anymore, why even bring it up?

might as well bring up 100% invincibility strong magic shield 30 sec TWoP spellswapping dragon head glitching RFS infinite stunlock etc
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>>162379551
both are shitte. Pick whatever you like more for style points.

>>162380000
i stopped playing that long ago, don't know what was patched and what stayed
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>>162379819
now that was plain mean
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>>162373048
lewd
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>>162375410
>You can dodge right INTO an enemy's attack just as long as your timing is right.
dude that's the same for all souls games lmao
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>>162380167
*points down*
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>>162379535
>jan, almost 1 year ago
>literal who

Go away
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>>162379879
Fucker's too heavy, though.
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>Think the GS moveset in II looks retarded
>Learn that's actually how you're supposed to wield them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNy_drriXs
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>>162381135
Then get a greatsword, you little bitch boi. You can't handle real mans weapon.
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>>162381339
All those moves look like what DaS2 made you hit like at times.
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>>162381482
B-but the Astora GS and Zewi are light enough. I am a r-real man, I am!
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>>162381339
looks really cool when the blade shines while he swings
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>profaned greatsword and slave knight armor, guantlets and leggings have the same metal and engravings
>slave knight set says that slave knights' skins were "charred black"
>ariandel is the home of both Sulyvahn presumably Gael
so is DLC2 going to have more shit on the propane flame or just more nonsense
because we've had nothing but "eternal dark" endings and an "eternal flame" ending sounds nice
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>>162381972
and they're fucking trash, see the connection?
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>>162382129
But fugs is the heaviest and fucking trash
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>>162382241
Except FUGS is actually really good now.
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>>162382321
AHAHAHAHAHAHA what a fucking meme
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>>162382129
All right then, recommend me a good GS/UGS that is <12 weight that is good for a quality build.
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>>162382419
>Longest UGS
>Highest AR for smallest stat investment
Now that Ultras can't practically have enough poise to trade with one another, FUGS has a decisive advantage over the rest and the fact that the high weight reduces how much poise you can stack is irrelevant when you need 0 poise to trade with almost anything anyways.
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>>162382241
Best UGS: Profaned and Lohtric. Honorable mention: BK for the combo potential.
The others are just plain bad. It's a shame but that's how it is.
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>>162378687
I wish I met more turbobuffers

so rare these days
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I made a thing
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>>162382838
Hollowslayer
Black Knight Sword
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>>162382838
>good GS
Literally most of them
Can't ever go wrong with the fucking Claymore.

>UGS that is <12 weight
Nigga you don't go UGS thinking like that. Sure go ahead and pick and Astora or the Zwei, sure they are light, but in reality they will be worse than GS because no damage to compensate for the slow swings.
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>>162383207
>prisoners chain
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>>162382994
this is some DSP lvl shit
>hurr he took my buff out
>just fucking kill me
>what a fucking joke
>that's why I hate online play
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>have about 15k souls
>invade someone
>host is hiding somewhere summoning the same guys over and over
>manage to kill 2 of them twice In a row and a 3rd once
>host DCs
>have 310k souls after
What the fuck? I'm level 20 I can effectively boost myself to 70 or something
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>>162379179
I miss useful moveset.
Infinite iframes and rolls were a mistake.
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>>162383439
supposed to be a twink
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>>162383475
Phantom had to be high level that got downscaled
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>invade a fucking "host fights everyone in a row!!!!" FC at pontiff's
>interrupt and attack the host
>N-NOT HONORABRU
>3v1 gank
>kill the two reds, host rolls around and chugs till he resummons his personal fuckboy red
>he and fuckboy hound me across irithyll
>fuckboy runs me down with a swordspear
I technically won, I guess?
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>>162383447
>how dare he counter my creative and fun build
>that's it, time to make a thread on /v/
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>>162382994
>GS
>parting flame with black flame, serpent and fire surge
i love running behind the pillar and healing when I fight one of you faggots
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Do you guys think soul would be better or worse if NPCs had no freindly fire?
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>>162383447
In DaS1 people would just pull out several stacks of blessing and mushrooms for being dishonoraburu. DaS2 must have been the only time I wasn't forced to play nice. Great times.
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>>162383803
>HAHAHAHHA bullshit
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>invade in undead settlement
>see a gank squad approaching by the ravine bridge
>equip cat and run out to the bridge
>get pummeled and jump off the bridge
>they follow me and die from fall
>this has happened atleast 4 times the last hour
Why do people do that? Do they think you don't take fall damage or do they think "hey he survived I should too"
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>>162383816
I do the same mane, I scrapped that character after one session
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>>162383780
>I died
>did I win?
No
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>>162384324
2.5:1 k/d, succ me
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>>162383939
worse, it's useful for getting some items without going through quests
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>>162384536
Good for you, but you still lost?

Did hitler win? No, there's still Jews everywhere
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>>162383816
>>162384182
fug
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>>162384569
>it's useful for getting some items without going through quests
What?
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>>162384681
what is the effective range of vow of silence?
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>>162384681
Vow of Silence is so slow. Insta casting Profound Still to screw healers and buffers was so much fun.
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>>162384681
>dat panic mode
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>>162383780
Are you a moundmaker or a darkmoon? If not, you didn't win
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>>162378446
meme covenant made by a faglord? checks out
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>invade
>guy named abyss watcher
>cosplay and everything
>party him immediately then back stab when he tries to parry me
>easy kill
Yup seems about right
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DS2 was one step in the right direction

DS3 was two steps backwards
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>>162385335
Don't you just love it when they stay true to the cosplay?
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I'm getting to the point where I've emulated speedruns with the gravelord sword in Dark Souls 1 and barely get hit

Am i autistic? Should I stop before it's too late? I don't have Dark Souls 2 or 3 or Bloodborne
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>boss starts with a single fire sword, can unzip a second dark sword for dual wielding
>player starts with a single dark sword, can unzip a second fire sword for dual wielding

Just C-Team things.
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>>162384924
don't know

>>162385124
I wish they'd rework or heavily buff it. I'm ok with faith spells being boring HA trades only if they gave us cool utility in return. Something similar to the floating chaos orb that slowly follows you and silences anyone in range. And a bit longer than 3 seconds.
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Is there any reason Dark Souls should be unable to do online play when I am connected to the net?
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>>162385482
I hope they make a spin off series with refined DaS2 mechanics. Clunky doesn't mean bad like dastards claim.
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>>162379521
>this mad

No one prevented you from sipping either, in which case you did several times.

Stop being such a sore loser and blaming your loss on my weapon choice. It was a good fight.
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>>162379521
If you can't stop him from having an opportunity from using healing items, or can't punish him for doing so, that's on you.
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>>162386326
>>162386503
samefag
end the "who can suck more cock" pissing contest soon anyway, kiddos
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>>162386112
Guys pls
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how do I into making webm? pls help
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>>162385482
DS2 was one step in the right direction and two steps back
DS3 was one step in the right direction and three steps back
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>invade some guy
>kill his phantom
>panics and runs to greatwood
>hasn't started boss just hides on other side of fog
>throws firebombs at me
>hug the wall, he comes for a hit, I can see his bluestone buff through the fog know when he's coming
>trade him
>he dies

Most I've laughed all week
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>>162386007
Its not even dark
Its magic
Despite being purple
Just D-Team things
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>>162386662
Not samefag, you butthurt spaz. You're like the kind of tard that makes a million steam groups "STOP DRINKING ESTUS, IS NOT FAIR!!!!" to show off your autism.
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>>162386112
The first game, on PC?
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>>162386667
google "webm for retards pastebin", retard
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>>162386662
What now?
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>>162382994
>these babbies who give up when their precious buff is gone

how fucking sad can you possibly be, holy shit
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>>162386007
who cares t b h
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>>162386849
Yeah, DS Prepare to Die edition. Never really had problems with it connecting before today. I was hoping to do some Co-op to get some souls and humanity.
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>>162386824
is that so

>>162386865
I'm off to commit sudoku
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>>162387039
Steamworks sucks at connecting players. Get DSCM.
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>>162384681
>straight sword doesn't hit you 3 feet off the blade

nice godmode cheat
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>>162387234
It's not even that so much as I can't even seem to get anything I'd normally get online. I can't see bloodstains, orange messages, etc. I will probably get DSCM though.
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>>162387457
Ding Dong Bannu.
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>>162387226
So you used all estus and cheat siegbraus and still lost? fucking lol my dude
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What's the best crossbow?
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>>162387351
sometimes I have godlike latency and sometimes I get this

just scandi things
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>>162387351
Yeah that looked weird, at that distance I would usually get hit 2 times, roll back once thinking it would be safe distance but nope then get hit again
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>>162387540
i'm not the dagger guy
i'm the guy telling ss and dagger guy to stop shitting up the thread
of course, that shit up the thread even more
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>>162386503
You literally cannot effectively punish estus with a dagger in 3. You get, at most, 1 R1 because dagger R1s don't truecombo into a followup. That's, at most 90 damage compared to the amount that they get back from chugging. You can't BS punish chugs in 3 so daggers have no options against chuggers. It's why you can't use them at all for invading or any form of pvp that involves healing.
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>>162387457
Yes, that's all because it can't connect you to other players. That's where it pulls messages and bloodstains from.

>>162387507
You literally can't get banned for anything in DS1.
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>>162387714
>lagging cunt using pyro
checks out
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>>162387540
No he didn't I don't really get why he's so mad. He was using Bandit's Knife I think, and I was using SS.

Neither of us resorted to cheap tactics like R1 spam or something, we both played mindgames with dodges, backsteps, light and heavy attacks throughout the fight. He almost had me a couple of times.
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>>162385482
DS2 was 30 steps forward and 4 steps back

DS3 gave up and went home
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do any hoods go well with Artorias's Chestpiece? Ragged Mask doesn't blend in

otherwise r8
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>>162387845
The reason they don't let you use Estus while invading is obviously to not give an advantage to invaders.
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>>162387691
Damage wise: Arbalest > Heavy > Sniper > Avelyn > Light > Knight (It is best when using light bolts in the water though)
Style wise: Heavy > Sniper > Knight > Avelyn > Light > Arbalest
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>>162388045
dogshit mish-mash/10
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>>162388045
The follower helm
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>>162388045
Looks like absolute shit my man
>That leg with that chest
What the fuck are you even thinking smdh
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>>162387870
you are easily triggered
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>>162388402
Just an observation, my lagging friend. I stopped getting mad at lag-powered pyros 2 weeks after the dlc release
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>>162388250
>>162388332
yeah I only just noticed after looking at it again

gonna trade it out with Silver Knight Leggings once I get to AL

>>162388290
thx d00d

grave warden hood seems alright too so I might check that out as well
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>>162387850
Do I have to manually connect with this or should it just start connecting to people on its own while it is running?
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>>162386326
I'm not him, I don't even know who you are, I just made that post to see your reaction. I didn't make any other posts in this reply chain
Better than I expected
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>>162388552
but I said earlier that I don't really play pyros and posted a meme webm of me using faith

surely you can follow a close-to-dead thread
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>>162388686
Well played. I thought it seemed a little too good to be true.
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>>162388681
It just runs in the background. Manual connection is for if you want to play with a specific person.
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>>162388768
I'd rather rip my own eyes instead of reading reply chains of your excuses
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R8 my ashen one.
I call him Axe Ninja
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>>162388914
I saw only 1 message and no bloodstains so far. Could it just be a lot of people aren't playing right now?

Also, totally unrelated, is there a good way to get red eye orbs in DS1 without joining the darkwraith covenent?
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>>162389109
doesnt match
*points down*
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>>162389109
Wear a shirt nigger
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>>162389079
I don't even
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what did he mean by this?
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I want to marry anri
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>>162387226
mad because bad
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>>162389435
Why haven't you yet?
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>>162389149
There's 2600 people playing right now, that shouldn't be an issue. It might take a little time to populate the list. You should also get the PVP watchdog so you can see how many people you're connected to without alt-tabbing and so you can avoid cheaters.

There's four cracked red eye orbs at Petrus' stash in Firelink and six on a corpse in unflooded New Londo. Without joining Darkwraiths, that's all you're going to get.
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>>162389149
Fucking finally connects. Thanks senpai
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>>162389375
>one guy buffs
>the other guy emotes
He got what he deserved.
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>>162389519
Do people tend to actually summon red phantoms with the soapstone or am I having false hope? I wanna stay in the chaos covanent for pyromancies and for the shortcut you get later. Also, I already placed the Lordvessel for Frampt.
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>>162376587
are you playing on ps4 ?
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>>162389631
was that sacred oath? I'm not good at recognizing these shitty miracles
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>>162389718
Can always ask friends to drop 99 crackeds
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>>162389718
Oolacile Township and Painted World are your best bets for red sign summons. Burg might be a decent bet too, although you'll probably only ever get summoned by SL120 meta memers or completely clueless newbies if you're running a low level build. Most people at average levels won't bother.

You don't have to stay in Chaos Servants to use the pyromancies, and once you've opened the Lost Izalith shortcut it'll stay open. Siding with Frampt does screw you over, though. You can still do forest or dorkmoons if that's your thing.
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>>162390002
no
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>>162374237
Hey my dudes, can you help me kill Pontiff Sulyvahn @ 6:30 CT, xbox one

Password:Memetastic
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>about to fight Aldrich
>decide to summon a player phantom to help with the fight
>phantom ends up doing nearly all of the work while I run around the room chugging estus like an idiot
>phantom dies before I deal the final hit to Aldrich

Jesus how did I get so bad. I'm actually feeling pretty ashamed of myself right now
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>>162390302
Not gonna lie, the 'choose between selling junk or invading' is kinda BS.

And the fucker disconnected right as I invaded. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>162391530
>not just duping consumables
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>Still playing shit souls 3

Jesus christ, how pathetic
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Will somebody help me farm Sunlight medals goddamn I hate this shit
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>>162374976
I doubt it will ever be possible. The game itself is just is not optimized. Using the general table you can force game to render low-res textures and draw only near, but that hardly affect performance at all.
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>>162391826
Booting up my Slashy Souls
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>>162391968
I don't know what that means specifically but I'm playing Dark Souls 3 to be specific.
Where you wanna meet?
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Should I thank Allah or Miyazaki for this one?
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>mfw winning cat and mouse duel against mages cunts
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>>162392168
Booting up my nintendo 64
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>>162386007
>>162386786
>right hand sword is magic
>faith scaling that does literally nothing for 1h attacks
Just E-team things.
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>>162391256
i know that feel

>NG Aldrich
>goes down in a couple of tries, no big deal

>NG+ Aldrich
>goes full anime on my ass
>nothing but moonlight volley/homing magic spam with moonlight spear thrown into the mix when i try to sip my sunnyD
>room literally fills up with homo magic orbs and arrows pushing my shit inno homo
>takes forever to beat

RNG can be a bitch sometimes
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>>162392432
neither.
always roll against bombs, running never works. they have broken aoes, because of the lag probably. that silver badge shitter learned the hard way
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>>162389519
can you use the duping glitch with cracked orbs?
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>>162393026
anything that's not black serpent has fucked up hitboxes if you sprint, sprinting makes your hitbox linger for so long it's fucking stupid
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>>162393304
yes
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>>162393304

No, because the orb is not consumed after the confirmation but after invading.
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yeah i ban him
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>Rocking the dragonbody, demon fist, llyods sword ring, pontiff right eye and flynns ring
>Going for broke on my damage
>Invade in the area before pontiff
>Host summons Gotthard
>Decide to kill him first
>L1 spam doesn't hurt him at all
>Host sits there and claps
>Roll up in hosts face
>Catch her roll with my gimpy L1 > L2 >R2 and kill her in one combos
>Applaud her and roar
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Do i need to get to a certain point to get summoned in the DS3 DLC? seems like it always fails, but it works fine on my other account
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I tried so hard
and got so far
but in the end
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
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So for raw flamberge I wanna be a warrior with prisoner favor hunter hornet right?
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>>162395989
>siegbraus

Come on man.
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>>162396126
why are siegbraus bad
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>>162395989
>that desperate measures dark sword at the end
kekerinos
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>>162395989
u tried
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>>162396232
Siegbraus are either from savescumming or downright CE use.
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>>162396804
and
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>>162395252
you the guy going for a low hp one hit kill? i think i ran into you twice today
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>>162397061
You're lucky few people do it, but that host might as well have hacked the same amount with the red and made it even worse for you
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>>162388402
<le where do you think you are face
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>>162397304
but what's wrong with an invader doing it
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>>162397591
It's a thing nobody should do and the equivalent of duping blessings in 1, only milder
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>>162397061
why don't I just have infinite estus usage? I mean having siegbraus fully heals you yeah? Fuck it why not 99 divine blessings on top!
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So how viable is the ValorHeart weapon? i dont have the dlc yet but that is the one weapon i love the look of.
Those greek attack animation mixed with that roman gladius turns my dick hard.
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>>162397812
meh/10, you can have some fun with it but it's nothing op
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>>162397812
It's a dex-leaning quality weapon that ends up with roughly the same AR as Gotthard's.

The guardframes only work in low-latency environments because delayed hit detection means that you'll only get the hit check after your guardframes have expired. It's really strong in low latency since you can react to anything and R1 to guard their attack and out-trade them, but your damage output is fairly low and you can be easily guardbroken if you have any less than 40END and don't constantly back off to regenerate it.

The jumping attack is god-tier.
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>try some pvp in outrider knight gear
>get me ass pushed in since i haven't pvp'd in months and my stats are kind of crappy
>get summoned for fight club. other phantoms are playing fisticuffs using un-upgraded weapons with the hosts while i have my match
>somehow manage to win four in a row with vordt's hammer
>Every now and then when I won the guys on the balcony would stop, cheer and throw prism stones

Made up for the shitty morning run I had. Also why wasn't the boreal valley mask kept in the game? I looks cooler than the outrider helm does..
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>>162395252
Maybe, do you remember someone named Nero? Cause that would would have been me
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>>162398923
oops, meant to link this post >>162397069
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>>162398923
no, the guy i ran into had a char name which was made of random letters and numbers. Must have been some other guy. Seemed like he was doing some testing with the dragon form now and buffs now that i think about it.
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>>162397730
why
is it too dishonorabru to use them even vs a 3-then-2-man gank with a 30% health advantage each
>>162397742
half estus as an invader
siegbraus are worse than estus and you can only carry ten
also, you can only carry one DB
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>>162399220
Ok, but yah running around in the dragon body and demon fist and pushin like 595 AR with the demon fist, granted anything that touches me is like half my life too since I'm invading
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Too bad this moveset didn't make it into the game, a greatsword with this moveset, I would've used no matter how bad it was.
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>>162400343
this dude summoned me several times. never got invaded by him though. He did use the oraoraoraora dragon stone on me one time and that was a pretty fucking rad way to get killed
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>>162400670
>ebony ghoul then
>ebony ghoul now
What the fuck happened?
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>>162400670
this looks so fucking goofy, you would have to be seriously autistic to swing your sword that way
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>>162400670
what lighting mods do you have on, looks sick as fuck
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>>162400901
>laggy purple ends as collateral damage
keks
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>>162400901
never understood the appeal of wombo combos
i mean, spreading the instant win button over 2 buttons and a stick doesn't change the fact that it's for instant wins
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>>162401325
Im gonna laugh my ass off when they sneak a patch to delay the weapon skill ability for shields. reddit threw a shitfit over it and from's been quiet lately.
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>It's a 'Aldrich spams arrow rain 5 times in a row' episode
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>>162401325
>did you rike it?
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>>162401325
Because with UGS, if you don't win fast with one good catch, it gets hard and annoying to win. After you hit them once or twice, if it doesn't kill, they will always cower and play super reactive.
I always have some guys never EVER attacking or doing nothing at all other than running around out of range.
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pcfc?
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>>162400921
might look goofy but it's quite realistic
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>Invaded by a various obvious twink
>Spams "Im Sorry!" before he actually fights me and my friend running through Undead Settlement
>Uses really shitty tactics involving RHH and an offhand crossbow
>Misses most of his shots
>Misses all his free-aims
>Tries to use Iron Flesh and Dark Hand spam
>Just slow walk away cause lol overencumbered
>Using Blood Ring probably because he's also wearing Kirk armor
>Still loses all his trades
>Still tries to do hit and run tactics
>Runs away indefinitely once he runs out of his 7 +10 estus
>Another guy invades
>Complete shit, we murder him
>Other guy continues to hide
>Friend tells me to resummon him so he's rested up for the boss and we can kill the other guy
>Guy we just killed invades
>They both run at me, filled with confidence now that I'm alone
>Summon friend again, murder the guy we killed before
>First invader once again runs off and hides
>Just change his phantom type and send him home
Why do people try so hard to twink and then play so, so badly
2 other Dark Hand twinks invaded us in high wall and proceeded to shit the bed and hit eachother when they tried to hit us and in general just put a bad name to invaders
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this place is so wonderful for invasions
even when the host is past the main ordeal he will always find a way to fuck himself barely with any activity from my part
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>>162402036
gf?
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>>162402036
check pontiff there's several that have been running all day. just be aware one of the hosts will punch you with an unupgraded caestus for shits and giggles.
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>>162402039
Realistic?
Yeah, these movements could be pulled off by a real human.
Actually useful in a fight?
I'm not so sure.
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>>162401461
That webm doesn't use the WA glitch at all. It's extremely noticeable when it's the WA glitch.
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>>162402216
To get a kick out of it, wonder if that dude is one of the million faggots on reddit complaining about "ganks" when they're just running into guys doing pve.
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>Get invaded in Anor Londo
>Invader just runs away to each Silver Knight and tries backstabbing me while I kill them then runs to the next one when it dies
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>>162402248
yes
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Is that CE wizard around?
How do I prevent curse with the latest table? Is it script > ignore status effect?
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>>162402642
Open > ParamPatchInitializer > Restrict Malicious Effetcs > Enable
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>>162402723
ohh, it was hidden inside something else
Thanks m8

I finally got sick of the bullshit hackers fucking around and decided to fight fire with fire.
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>>162402926
have you tried doing what >>162402216 did and kicking them? Its honestly a bigger "fuck you" to them since they dont get the satisfaction of trading hits
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>>162402926
Damn I always forget about the SpParamEffect Mods
mfw "CE Wizard"
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>>162403078
Yeah, I'm gonna activate the stuff to be invincible then gesture a little and then send them home
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Do you use the Washing Pole?
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>>162402723
Will the "player exterminate" option kill someone through that?
I downloaded CE after some butthurt skiddie flipped on infinite iframes in the arena, but is the best that 2 people using the general table can do just become immune to each other?
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>>162403386
Honestly? I've got no idea if that would work because I've never ran into someone who couldn't be cursed because 99.999% of people that are cheating are just script kiddies that don't know anything besides "god mode". Theoretically it should still work.

If it doesn't, then if they are invading you then you can use the "Add to black crystal" in the "Current Session" area and you can force them to disconnect.
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Is the greatsword of judgement any good? It definitely looks really fucking cool
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>>162403771
it's a greatsword
yea it's good
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>>162403386
The player exterminate only works only on AI controller enemies.It has no effects on real players.
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What is the difference between all three Lightning Spears in Dark Souls 1? Wiki lists damage on low level enemy, but how do they fare against bosses? What about cast times? Stagger values?
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>>162403921
All 3 are absolute shit
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>>162403771
Is it good? Very. It has the highest damage per swing of all the GS.

The only problem is that you have to get a very specific 27/40/40 build and that means you have to take points away from things like END/VIG to be able to use the weapon to it's maximum.
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>>162403894
Which option is for actually killing another player? Specifically for killing one that's using the basic godmode shit in the general table
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>>162402926
what table are you using?
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>>162403973
Well the regular version has been working pretty well, and I want to get Sunlight Blade eventually.
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>>162402394
granted the animation could be better/not so stiff but this >>162381339 anon posted a link of one such technique and it looks similar to the das2 one
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>>162404017
you can get away with 17/40/40, it still has around 540 unbuffed
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>>162404141
the one from ce forum
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Is the DS3 meta still 120?
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>>162404897
best meta is 150, and you can still pvp with 120 memers
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>>162404897
for the most part, although most of the cancerous players and cheat to wins guys have moved to the arena. I did some duels at pontiffs today and did not see any ccs or fs so things seem to be slightly better. ran into a lot of halberd users which was cool
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>>162403921
Cast times are the same across the board and they're linear upgrades to each other in damage and poise. They're so slow that even if you have 45 dex, you'll only ever be able to use them against the biggest, slowest bosses or distracted targets. Think of them as artillery, much moreso than other spells. Great Lightning Spear drops off in usefulness after Iron Golem, Sunlight Spear isn't available until NG+.
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Is the DLC any good?
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>>162405609
Good but short
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>>162405461
If I want to run Dragonslayer's Spear as my main weapon, would you say the miracles are useless?
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>yfw the second dlc just add two arena map with a specific matchmaking queue to each
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>>162405765
>inb4 one of the arenas is just a flat finaldestination plane and the other is a narrow bridge with instadeath fall hazards
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>>162405031
The max level you can reach to be still matched with sl120 is 144 tho.
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>>162405858
shhhh
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why does the kirkhammer do no damage? am i missing something or is it just shit?
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>>162405850
>Miyazaki adds 4 kings arena as a "throwback"
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>Try to play through game with a spear
>Have to switch to Sword half way through because you need to swing your damage in a horizontal arc since 9/10 of the deadliest enemies are things that will surround and stunlock you to death like dogs
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>>162406414
It's just shit until much later, it's only good for straight sword mash and charged R2 hammer cheese.
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>>162406414
Kirkhammer is one of the best weapons in the game. It can wreck even some of the highest HP bosses in the game.
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>>162406414
you are missing the cuckborne thread
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>>162405737
Even more so, since you've already got lightning spears on your onehanded R2. But don't let me stop you if you want to run a themed build of some sort. Just don't expect any miracles.
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>>162406484
Isn't there a spear with side swipes/spins just for these situations?
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>>162406446
I'd actually really like a black void pvp arena
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>>162406414
If you miss, there's a shockwave that does like half damage or something

The actual attack hitbox is bugged so that you will consistently miss things directly in front of you if you're locked on. You have to manually aim to correct for it.
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>>162406823
I'm afraid there would be so many """""""""trolls"""""""""" just running away so you can never catch them
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>>162407506
Its not like they can't do that in the normal arena. Just running up and jumping off the pillar with the cat ring makes you essentially uncatchable.

Although it might make people more likely to I guess.
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Does Dark Souls Prepare to Die edition just innately take like 5-10 minutes to start connecting you online?
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>>162406484
just use a halberd xd
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>>162407654
D S C M
S
C
M
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>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/125154
Is this a good build?
Are hollow builds any good? Thinking about making a dex build but I want to respec between hollow and dex later on.
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>>162408019
Already got it, still takes a bit to give me anything online. I'm assuming the DSCM is what is making i so I can even just reliably connect at all.
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>>162402216
That sounds very familiar, was it "T-Rolling"?
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>tfw you suck so badly that 4kings becomes 5kings
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>ywn fuck Lothric Younger Prince, Last Hope of his Line
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>>162374237

Post pcpdbf's.
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To anyone invading the cathedral
A scriptkiddie named "[[[[RAGE]]]]" is using godmode in the postpontiff area, if you invade him, be sure to kill his boss. I tried but he suicided before I turned the bridge contraption
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>>162408707
> tfw you never cleared the capra demon boss fight legitimately and cheesed every time
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>>162408906
>cathedral
Whoops, I mean irithyll of course
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>>162408563
Yep!
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>>162406484
Where is your Partizan my man?
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>>162408054
If by hollow you mean bleed builds, then yeah they're baller
Check this for example >>162401780
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>>162408892
>host wastes all his stamina spamming r1 at invincible target
Every time
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>>162406484

I did it with a lothric knight long spear that doesn't even have a running attack, git gud fegit sucks to suck :^)
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>>162408906
>4chan, my personal army!
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>>162409229
Lothric knight long spear got that godly r2 tho, i prefer this over the normal running attack
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>>162409248
More like a headsup for anyone invading there. If you want to play around against a cheater and watch him point down when he kills you, be his guest :^)
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>>162409183
What's your sl? I'm not sure what's the go-to consensus on hollow scaling. Is it 35 luck with a hollow weapon and then the rest of the lvls in STR/DEX? I don't know what to prioritize but I'm leaning on mercenary or warrior.
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>>162408054

Yes, Hollow builds are good for bleed weapons.

You can make a fine Hollow build (40 Dex + 40 Luck) at SL80.
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>>162407980
>have a SL36 +4 invader
>use backup save and make a refined build for funsies, with prisoner's chain and knight's ring of course for 27/20
>refined LK long spear does 30 AR less than a regular Halbard whether 1H or 2H

God fucking dammit I hate From so much some times. At mean at least give pikes higher damage than pokey halberds ffs.

Halberds are literally just better spears 9 times out of 10. They do more damage (purely physical too), most people can't parry them, they have a varied moveset where nearly all of the moves are useful for something, they're better at Charge than spears (Halberd) or they have a more useful WA in general than spears (RH Halberd).

Same shit with Astora GS not too long ago, or hollowslayer GS to some degree. Other weapons are better spears than spears are, it sucks.
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>>162409593
>You can make a fine Hollow build (40 Dex + 40 Luck) at SL80.
I guess I should aim for sl 80 then. Thanks a bunch
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>>162409225
>scaled down phantom that probably has max estus, +5/+10 weapons/shield, turtling with a medium shield and a fucking dark sword
>host somehow having yhorm's before beating crystal sage/abyss watchers

Really makes you think.
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>>162409741
Will you be doing brigand raider cosplay, anon ?
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>>162409741
>slv 80
LOL
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>>162409741
>(40 Dex + 40 Luck) at SL80.
>having no health+end
you've been rused
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>>162409467
sl120 warrior start, 40 vig 40 end 30 str 35 dex (add knight or hunter ring, it's the same shit), 30 luck and +10 from main weapon and offhand yeah it's +10 caestus and obviously carthus rouge
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>>162410000
Something rogue themed since I already made a warrior, qualityknight, paladin, and pyro.
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>>162409363

I know but you can't run around like a faggy katana weeaboo with it like you can with a gargoyle FS for example. It takes more skill to use since it's all based on spacing out attacks that are done while not running.

And I beat the entire game with just using it 2H'd and gitting gud at rolling. No parrying, no shield, blind first playthrough with DaS3 as my first souls game, by myself. I even still use it in low level invasions sometimes, it's super nostalgic for me.

Main point is the OP of this convo that I was replying to is a faggot. There should be no problem completing the game with a spear, even without a shield (though you can make it even easier with a shield).
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>>162409915
You know you can transfer weapons from one person to another right?
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>>162410158
Too bad the twin daggers don't have innate bleed on them
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>>162408892
>no one posting any more pcpdbf's

What happened? Did everyone get banned or what?
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>>162410253
Too bad any offhand dagger is useless. They add a bunch of cool ideas like icepick style dagger but it's one of the worst choice of offhand, even empty offhand is better.
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>Enemy is never agressive
>Try to be agressive
>Get punished with running attacks
Fuck this game
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>>162410017

>implying
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>>162410531
Too bad almost everything is shit
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>>162410251

Yeah I know, twinking and summoning to literally do early game PvE is just sad.

>"hey little noob how about trying the great club it's pretty good with the R2 and..."
>"NO I HEARD YHORMS WUZ DA BESTEST GIB NOW ME NO WAIT IT BEST WAAAAHHH"

etc
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>>162410253

You can give them innate bleed by infusing them with a blood gem and then miraclebuff'ing them with rougeit's still not that great because they're so short, but it bleeds in like 4 hits if you're wondering
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>>162411139
Why is the Blood-starved Beast eating porridge?
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>>162408892
>using the follower sabre un-ironically
that host may be a scrub but you're the true faggot here
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>>162410397
I bought the game yesterday, what is this pcpdbf think you talk about?
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>>162410773
It's also possible that it might be someone's later playthrough. When I wanted to do a swordspear build on my 3rd playthrough, I just transferred over the one I had from my 1st playthrough. Why wait till beating a late game boss to play with a weapon you really like?
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>>162410397
nobody gave a shit about them you thorn gauntlets fucker.
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>>162411252
>unironically complaining about a weapon in the game, in invasions
go back to your duels faggot
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Due to rampant use of Bloodlust glitch, I'm killing your boss if you use any type of Katana when I invade you
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>>162411139
that friede part is pretty true. I sunbro'd with a guy and got her with the quakestone wa combo once during each phase
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>>162411457

why do thorn gauntlets trigger you so much? they do literally 1 fucking damage per roll
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>>162411642
PC kiddies everyone!

This is why I will never buy a Souls game on PC.
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>>162411639
but I don't duel, i do faithful invasions :)
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>>162411642
>>162411783

Go for it, only thing that would bother me is if hackers could get me banned, which they can't anymore.

Any PC player who doesn't regularly make backup saves deserves whatever happens to him.
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>>162411824
oh right aldrich faithful. the guys who see a red fighting a host and sit down and watch or attack the red instead.

makes sense.
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>>162411642
>struggle to kill boss
>abuse glitches and point down every invader
>salty hacker kill your boss for you
>can now proceed through the game
New challenge run on my way
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>>162412049
I feel your butthurt from that post, there are no rules in invasions :^)
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>>162411642
dude just dodge. There's so much shit in the game that can one-three shot you that you might as well learn how to avoid it. if latency comes into play, then you're at the mercy of the network
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>>162411642
How do you kill someone's boss as an invader? Is this a new hack?
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>>162412049
I had a red do this to me while being aldrich
I had a fucking ALDRICH do this while being aldrich
What the fuck is wrong with these people
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>>162412581
people follow their own rules, your best bet is to not trust anyone. after all this is a game where everyone fucks each other over gameplay and storywise
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>>162412797

that's fine, but then don't get mad like >>162411252 when an invader uses """"""""""meta"""""""""" weapons, then.
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>>162412991
I used to rage like that back in ds2 but stopped caring in 3. since it's the last game I might as well wing it and enjoy whatever weirdness comes my way while it lasts
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What if, when equipped with the covenant icon, Rosaria's Fingers pulled you into every area of the game (excluding other covenants' areas?) as long as the matchmaking worked out?
Optionally it could also prioritize dried fingered worlds.

You would still just be able to red eye orb without the covenant on to pick a specific area.
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>Thought I would use a spell parry shield
>Someone throws a fireball at me
>lol whatever check this shit scrub
>BAM parry the fireball easy peazy lemon squeezy
>Jokes on me
>I still take the fireball to the face
What a fucking useless mechanic
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>>162413489
>parry affinity
>it comes back and hits me before I even finish the parry animation
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>>162413489
>spell parry doesn't deflect spells back to send
More wasted potential.
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>>162413489
Its great when it works
Most of the time they just stop and stare at you
I'm still mad it doesn't actually reflect the spell back at them though.
Fuck you From.
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Any tips for friedes great scythe? I'm getting fucking demolished trying to use this thing, and no im not spamming the WA like a retard
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>>162413489
>parry a chaos fireball
>it deflects straight downwards and explodes on my feet for full damage
It's a shame to see Spellparrying become so useless after 2 had finally buffed it into being worthwhile.

I suppose it was doomed from the start when they chose to include it in rollsouls 3, though
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>>162413147

I used to try out a bunch of different ideas for builds at different SL's earlier on when I started regularly doing invasions. Over time though, when you lose to enough ganking hosts who seriously abuse the system and all of the advantages the game has to offer to their side, you start to build up a growing resentment over the huge imbalance inherent in the game, an imbalance you know miyazaki and From will never fix. When you try to play with your "fun" weapons and get mobbed by overleveled shitters, when you kill 1 or 2 phantoms and even a blue and the host just runs and rolls away forever and summons them back with full life and full estus recharged, with a seeded world, then points down at you when you inevitably succumb to your wounds, like they're good. Like they think they actually outplayed you when really all they did was abuse a broken system to the maximum, when you were essentially "playing fair" with less-than-great weapons.

the real satisfaction comes from when you actually find those OP broken builds that can legitimately handle 1v3's and 1v4's and all the bullshit the host and phantoms can throw at you. some people scoff at that shit but even with the best builds like hornet one-shot builds or sellsword DMB it can still be quite the struggle to beat what I call "professional gank squads", i.e. ganks that did their homework and are using literally every advantage they can to be the max cancer possible. you don't know cancer until you've run into hosts who summon buddy reds through RSS, who not only come in embered but also occupy an invader slot. purples who join forces (whether they're randoms or worse, I dare to say, friends who kept invading until they got in with the gank as a purple) with the literal 1v5 to make a 1v6. And then way of the blue of course, don't forget that.

its the reason I don't really play meta aldrich invasions anymore, especially since a 1/3 of the time that high up on PC you get cheaters who just curse everyone
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>>162414141

in short: I like finding stuff that works against the worst of the worst, I enjoy winning. I'm enjoying myself.
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>Using Hollowslayer Greatsword repping my girl Lucatiel
>Invade a player
>They're wearing gull Havels and Havels Shield
>Whatever
>Run towards them
>They put their shield up
>Use my WA to knock their shield away
>That feeling of euphoria when someone doesn't know that art move and keeps their shield up
It's pretty slow and people tend to dodge it, but oh my god when it works it just feels wonderful
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>>162414383

I still really don't get how to use that shit, feels slow and clunky to me. Halberds just feel right for a leo ring user, especially once you learn how to use Charge correctly.
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>>162414141
Once I kill the same phantom twice I just curse the host
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>>162411252
curved swords aren't that bad now
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>>162414520

Are you gonna get a trip at some point or what? You're like the cheat engine version of the yukas point down meme.

Memes aside though I don't use CE, never have and never will.
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>Invade cheater
>He has godmode on
>Activate my own godmode and kill his boss
I'm having so much fun in this shit
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Post your hardest self imposed boss challenge that you've actually completed. Mine was defeating Artorias with the drake sword.
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>>162414624

It's the opposite actually: people think they're super OP cancer tier S now so they get mad whenever they see anyone using FS or CSS. They're actually something I've avoided in general until just tonight actually. It's good but I still need to get used to it, they're really not as braindead auto-pilot as people usually imply. Even in that webm alone you can see me missing swings all over the place.

I like it though because it feels honest, which sounds weird considering how cancerous people consider it but I'm not really one shotting anyone, I'm not doing some spin2win wombo combo or parrying and then swapping my straight sword for a yhorm's or some shit, yet I can still take on multiple opponents by gitting gud at playing unlocked most of the time.

The problem is that most people are duelfags I think. They see it in terms of 1v1 no healing fights where you're on a time limit and no one is running away ever. They don't see it in terms of fighting ganks, being heavily outnumbered while still finding a way to come out as the winner.
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>>162415084
post webms faggot. and potentially hate mail
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>>162415312
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>>162415127
No specific boss challenges, I guess, but I played through the entirety of DaS (+aota) with Astora's Straight Sword. That and SL1 caestus. Other than that I generally haven't limited myself much in pve gear-wise. Some low-level characters in 3 with +2 weapons, I guess.
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>lautrec's armor is basicaly a daki
Is there a bigger waifufag in any Soulsbore game?
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>>162415181
i mean i supposed a curved sword would be an issue if you don't carry around over 60 max upgraded weapons to counter whatever bullshit you might come up against, the only weapons i truly consider bullshit would be shit like estoc turtles or WP buffed running attack spam and even then i have a counter to that

i think parry's are stupid because its pretty fucking obvious out-side of a few situations its super inconsistent
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>>162411783
Name fagging everyone!

This is why I will never be a namefag on /dsg/
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>>162415524
i like playing dressup with my character
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>>162415735
Because of faked screen caps?
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>>162415957
>It makes me look bad so it's fake!

You said it
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>>162412553

You clip into the bossroom and kill their boss, which means they can no longer get invaded/gank in an area
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>>162415957
who are you trying to convince exactly?
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>>162415957
>get btfo
>i-it's f-fake!!
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>people still reply to Lucifer
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Is it worth pumping a ton of int/fth if I just want to incinerate people with follower torch wa?
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>>162416446
why not? it'll be fun
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>>162415562

You don't even really need 60 different things to counter literally everything. In invasions you basically just need something that can guardbreak against turtles, take on being outnumbered (ganks), chase down/roll catch people thus punishing those who are trying to run/roll away infinitely (think things with good running attacks like spears, katanas, curved swords, etc), and generally deal enough damage in a short enough period of time so as to get through the host's likely large supply of health/estus. Many weapons that people use fill multiple duties listed here and beyond, and often people have at least 2 mainhand weapons and 1-2 offhand things (dual-wield weapon, shield, parry tool, crossbow, etc). At higher levels of play people min/max even further by gitting gud at managing their menu for hard swapping items, keeping only the few they need with them and everything else left as the bonfire.

Estoc turtles can be guardbroken and WP is BTFO by a simple shield with good enough physical block (preferably 100%), both are really not that much of an issue if you come prepared and don't require a million different weapons. It's probably also why generally SL60 +6 and below are the best SL's to invade at, where people can't just have easy access to all of the broken stuff at once and have to pick and choose instead.
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Are the Brigands twin daggers worth using
Seems like they might be good poison/bleed weapons
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>people still feeding the troll and giving luci the negative attention he desperately craves to give his pitiful life meaning
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>>162416664
why not gotthards or the two carthus swords?
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>>162416737
t. lucifer

Literally no one will defend you except yourself.
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>>162416664
no, they're terrible

Try ghru dagger with poison resin or bandit knife with bleed resin.
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>>162416783
I like quick stepping and doing stabby things faster
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>>162416664

See: >>162411221

>>162416792

I'm not luci and no one is defending him, he doesn't want to be defended anyways he wants (You)'s. How the fuck am I defending him if I'm mocking people who still unironically reply to his posts?

Just don't fucking reply, people. Filter luci's trip but at the very least just don't reply at all to any of his posts. If you call him a faggot do it without actually replying to his post at the same time.
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>>162416503
I always prefered level 50 and +5 weapons. You could still get invasions in the catacombs and cathedral.

>>162416953
talking about me is the same as replying to me in terms of ego, but it doesn't fucking matter. Instead of shit posting about not liking my name, just talk about the game instead.
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>>162417243
>talk about a dead game that has literally nothing left in terms of lore or build diversity

Good idea.

Btw, dark souls 2 was better than shit souls 3
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Hey guys, Crestfallen here. Someone know a cheat table for noclip, no gravity or free camera for ds2 soft?
I tried the one from the official ce forum, but the noclip is really shitty, you can't walk freely at all, you have to use your numberpad to do quick jumps.
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>>162416503
yes but i just like carrying lots of different weapons
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>>162417427
I meant any of the games. I was talking about DaS3, BTW. The pic of DaS2 was just fluff, because the person I was replying to was talking about people over-leveling to use everything.

And DaS2 was the worst game in the series.
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>>162417243

I do cathedral and catacombs invasions all the time with my SL36 +4 character so that's not really a problem for me. You can invade all the way from crux woods through catacombs it's great.
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>>162417581
>backstep iframes
>more build diversity
>UGS/GS parry
>better fashion

Yeah right
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>>162417649
>Better Fashion
kek
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Did point down become the new Well What is it?
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>>162417714
>thatonerobethatisineverygamebut3.svg
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>>162417523

It's fine if you WANT to, I'm just saying you don't HAVE to.

One of the reasons why I really enjoy the sabre is because it's the only CS that has a guardbreak WA, making it incredibly versatile. It's a little shorter than the CCS and does a bit less damage with no innate bleed but that WA makes all the difference since I tend to be able to hold my own against everything else that isn't a turtle.
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>>162417719
Point down was always a popular BM gesture.
It's just that DaS3 really lacks any other BM gestures so it's our only options. It's the poor man's look skyward
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>>162417719
when this happened, apparently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zBa1_-YOPk

>>162417812
is point up not the same as look skyward? i haven't played the older games yet, plz no bully.
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>>162417790
Sabre's WA guardbreaks 100%?
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>>162417783
What robe are you talking about?
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>>162417649
>>backstep iframes
irrelevant
>>more build diversity
99 in ever stats is not build diversity
>>UGS/GS parry
Garbage. Not being able to parry was supposed to be the trade off for two handing your weapons.
>>better fashion
If you are into sloots.
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>>162417892
Look skyward was an exasperated facepalm
Probably the single best BM gesture in the series.
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>>162417897

I haven't tested it enough to know that but it's at least the only 2-hit guardbreak in the game so it's likely the most powerful one you can get, it's part of what makes it so cancerous since it doubles as a great combo killer or simply to run people down.

I remember seeing obobobo run it into a havel's GSh and not guardbreak it during DLC invasions, but that might not be saying much considering it's fucking havel's GSh at meta level.
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>>162417921
dingy set

>>162417928
>>backstep i-frames
>irrelevant
Holy shit. You can't try to make an argument and say "this is irrelevant because I don't like it"

Could do more than you can in 3

And now we have the same stomp WA for every UGS

Better fashion all around
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>>162418095
STOP
REPLYING
TO
LUCIC᠎U᠎CK
RETARD
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>>162413489
Spell parry in 3 is fucking useless because not only does it send it into a terrible direction, only like 2 shields are capable of doing this.
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>>162418186
/thread every thread
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>>162418186
But we have to talk about a dead game that has nothing more to learn or talk about
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>>162417790
its also an insanely good role catch, looks better one handed as well so i prefer to use it one handed

yeah i know you dont have to but i like to switch my weapons around often just to mix things up and make the game interesting, my claymore is still the best girl in the souls series though, so are her fine sisters
people complain about the quality build meta but usually forget that quality builds usually have the largest weapon selection, even if a lot of those weapons are nonviable

also aesthetics trumps viability, the black blade is SUPER nice looking
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>>162418095
It's your job to make your own arguments, not mine to prove them wrong. If you think the backsteps were game changing and want me to take you seriously about it then you need to do more than just green text the phrase "backstep iframes."
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>>162417649
>backstep iframes

is this really that big of a deal? backsteps are still incredibly useful in DaS3 if you know how to use them correctly, mainly to instantly initiate running R1's from rest which is also good for punishing R1 spammers (I think some anon has a good webm of using backstep backstep-R1 with a shotel to illustrate this). Great with katanas/spears, great with anything with a good running attack really, especially if you learn how to play unlocked and raviolistep (turn your back towards enemy, backstep then point your thumbstick towards your target while pushing R1 so you suddenly turn around and running attack on top of the backstep).
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>>162418317

It's still mainly about function over form. aesthetics are great but when push comes to shove, you need to be ready to deal with a ganking host that tries to run away forever and resummon his phantoms if they ever die.
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>>162418357
>backsteps are still incredibly useful in DaS3
hah
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>>162418340
>"This game was bad"
>No, it was good because of 'These' reasons
>"You're reasons are irrelevant because I don't like your game"
>called out on ignoring part of argument
>"It's not my job to make your argument"

Dude seriously?
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somebody once told me you can disable the gay weapon effects of ds2, how to do it?
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>>162418493
>hah
What a brilliant retort. *rolls eyes*

>>162418515
I put as much effort into my retorts as you did into your post.

If you just say, "A," then I will just respond with, "B." If you say, "A, and here is why," then I will respond with, "B, and here is why."

This guy (>>162418357) already spelled it out for you anyway.
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>>162418487
yeah they definitely added a bunch of weapons to the game with very little thought into how they work competitively with other weapons both in pve and pvp

oh well, at least the claymore has always been good
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>>162418738
Irrelevant
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>>162418771
>yeah they definitely added a bunch of weapons to the game with very little thought into how they work competitively with other weapons both in pve and pvp

That is one of the things Bloodborne did really, really well. Pretty much every weapon feels unique.
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>>162418561
you mean the spellbuffs?
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>>162418959
Bloodborne is irrelevant
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>>162419005
Nah, it is the better than any of the Souls direct sequels.

DaS2 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2
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>>162419170
>DaS2 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2
That's it luci, good boy
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>>162419170
That's irrelevant to say. It's your opinion
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>replying to namefags
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>>162419170
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2
Whoops. Fixed, lol.
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>>162419170
>DaS2 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2
>DS2 at the front

told you it was the best and your keyboard even knows it
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>>162418561
no, that thing that looks like the air is bending over the weapon, breaking the speed of sound or something
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>people STILL replying to Luci
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>>162419323
My keyboard is a traitor. Never trusted it. That's why I prefer controllers.
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> facing guy named bear claw
> seems to not realize chugging estus is useless if you are facing away from your opponent and he can backstab you
> invade and kill him twice
> see he is also victim of an infection from a gravelord servant
> mfw this guy is getting gangbanged
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>>162417897
>Sabre's WA guardbreaks 100%?
I'm convinced that all guardbreaking moves work by having high stamina damage instead a guaranteed break. But with stamina damage so high, you're almost always break guard even against greatshields. I know for a fact that straight sword WA can't break half the shields but the best weapons to push away panlids are Valorheart and Sabre.
>>162416317
>all these filter tabbed posts
>wasting your time reading negative nancy's shit opinions
When will they learn
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I'm bored with BB. What's a fun build to do in DS3? I already did BKGA and swordspear. I'm kinda thinking about doing edgy katana weeb. Is that fun?
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>>162419631
Pyro is the most fun
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>>162419484
Make that three times. To add onto things he apparently doesn't get, he keeps swing strong attacks at me while I'm using Havel's greatsheild like it's going to do something.
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Did they change stamina consumption for the BKGA? I haven't played this game in a few months and it seems like the BKGA is consuming way more stamina than before.
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>>162419716
That's irrelevant because it's an opinion.
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>>162419631
> I'm kinda thinking about doing edgy katana weeb
Try ninja build with any katana using stance and go 30% or under. Fast rolls and mixing WA with hits are fun, even better with obscuring. cat and all the sneaking rings.
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>>162419875
It's a fact that I had the most fun playing it.
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>>162420064
That's also an opinion. Do you have proof of your statement? Can others review your "proof"?

Talk about the game not your opinions.
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>>162420108
Yes.
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>>162420234
Show the proof
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>>162420258
Sorry, that's for subscribers only.
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>>162420458
That's also an opinion.

A subscriber could download the video and share it with non-subscribers.

Talk about the game not your opinions.
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>>162420495
>>A subscriber could download the video and share it with non-subscribers.
That's piracy. I don't talk to pirates. Filtered.
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>>162420813
That's also an opinion.

Piracy would require the material to be sold or have a monetary value. Since youtube is a free service it is not piracy.

Talk about the game, not your opinions.
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>>162417451
The General SoFS table doesn't have a noclip, but you can change your hostility to the "ghost" to pass through walls.
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>>162420981
I read about that but it says that you have to invade and be summoned, i can't do any of that. I just saw this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFDummTtp8
I'm trying to add this guy on steam but he either ignored or didn't saw it
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Who the fuck thought that 3 npc invaders in one room was a good idea for a boss fight?
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>>162421842
B-team
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>>162421842
Nothing about DaS2 was thought out. It is a really easy fight though. Just take out LMAO 2KAT and the fight is already over.
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>>162422515
That's an opinion and a false one at that.

It had to be thought about to even be conceived to be put into the game.

Talk about the game, not your opinions.
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so i had a spiked mace drop for me on the very first evangelist i killed on the first run i've done in half a year. i've heard it's a pretty gay weapon in pvp. i was planning on just doing an old zweihander build like i always do but i actually like the moveset on the hammer and was planning on doing an ultra-class weapon build anyway. am i fag for using it?
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>Das2 was a good game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1eKThZG-g

Even if you want to say that they patched it, it still took them a fucking year to do it. I was well into BB by the time they figured it needed to be stopped.
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>>162424997
Who's talking shit about the spiked mace?
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>>162424997
When they said it was gay, they probably meant it in the way that means "This is a stupid broke weapon and it won't stop raping my asshole
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>>162421842
I thought this was fun. Bring a couple of buddies and it's over quickly.
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>>162375180
Start with Dark Souls mate.
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God, I use to love the Darkmoons, but now........I hate this stupid broke covenant, such a pain in the dick. Only got 6 concords
I'll never get darkmoon blade
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>Get invaded
>''Oh fuck!"
>Invader edge-walks down stairs
>Drop Hidden Blessing
>Toast
>He buffs his Carthus Curved Sword
>It's a Carthus Rogue
>Buff Lorian's GS
>Literally takes 2 R1 swings and a charged R2 to kill him

What
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>>162382052
Pretty sure we are going to the deep/abyss to find the "dark soul of man"
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Gonna ask again since I didn't get a reply on the last page:

What are some good flashy/brawler movesets for DS2 pvp?

I'm thinking things that have a variety of attacks (overhead, horizontal, thrust) and can be thrashed around a lot.

Here's a few that I'm toying with but I would really love to do more experimentation:
Powerstance Zweihander (L) and Claymore (R)
>1H claymore thrusts and poke roll + power stance long range sweep for punishing
Greatsword (L) and Drakekeeper's Greataxe (R)
>Vertical R1 spam with the greaxe, horizontal R1 spam with the Greatsword, 360 tracking with one, and dead angling with the other!
Powerstance Warped Sword (R) and Thrusting Katana (L)
>Warped sword spinning L2s + Katana thrusting R2s. I feel awful using this though since both weapons are absurdly good against laggy pvp
Powerstanced Thorned Greatsword (L) and Sun Sword (R)
>Heavy L2s that don't use durability, toggle power stance off to fire lightning bolts, rapid R2 thrusts with sun sword
Majestic Greatsword (L) and Black Knight Greatsword (R)
>Majestic greatsword is boosted in L and, Black Knight greatsword is boosted in R hand, both are the longest greatswords in their classes. The 20/20 Int/fth requirement just boosts BKG's attack power, AND you get to use the 1H claymore moveset in combination with the Majestic Greatsword's 2H tracking roll and unique attacks.

Basically I'm looking for dual wielding movesets with stylish 2/3 hit combos, a decent spammable R1 or L1, and some strong R2 or L2 thrust.

What are you favorite dual wield combination?
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Princes had the best theme and coolest boss fight in 3 prove me wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFRaZs6ri7s
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>>162417714
I, for one, much prefer Das2 and BB fashion over 1 and 3.
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Are there any fun PvP or JOLLY COOPERATION covenants that actually get regular summons?
Watchdogs was fun while I was a lower level but now I never get summons, and when I do it's to some fuck in Germany and I get nailed in one hit from 500m away
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>Mainhand DSS
>Offhand Zwei

This is surprisingly effective
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>>162426180
Powerstanced Curved Nil Greatsword with an offhand Zweihander has been pretty fun for me.
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so i spent about an hour or two enkindled full clearing settlement because i'm autistic and nothing happened. literally nothing. no invasions, nothing. what happened? i haven't played for a while and last i remember people were whining about how every single person running through settlement would have 2 phantoms holding their dick and every invasion would be 1v3. did people just get sick of it?
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>>162426674
>coolest theme

Nah, Deacons have the best. Which is such a shame because the fight is trash. And also loud as fuck so most people never even notice the track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20XREf55X9E
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>>162427078
That's actually my second favorite theme

>when it gets to 0:43
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>>162426674
>>162427078
Move over plebs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0LdIZ8TWYo
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>>162427309
overrated
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>>162427393
>being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian
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So, I have been out of the loop when it comes to Dark Souls 3 for a while, is Faith still shit? Did the DLC help with any of that?
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>>162427393
I thought that was the SoC/Gwyn theme.
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>>162426674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke3HWo8fTpE
what about gundyr?
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>>162428067
Great Sword and Int are slightly better. Fai is still shitty.
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>>162425551
chinlet_gwyndolin.png
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>>162377329
>talks about his shitty ass dagger attack being amazing
>posts a webm of him taking 8 years to kill a guy who is clearly new to the game using the dark battle axe and garbage shield who still manages to hit him because he's shit

laughing every laugh
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>>162429032
The poor noob he's killing still hasn't discovered that his controller has an L2.
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I haven't been here in a long time, why does BB have it's own general?
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>>162384164
>fall damage or do they think "hey he survived I should too"
It's the last bit, I do this all the time too.
Are you also a twink? I'm assuming this works for us because we're invading inexperienced players.
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>>162429143
It's a different IP.
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was anyone here around back when moot had to create /vg/ to contain all of the dark souls and katawa shoujo threads?
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>>162409915
isn't that just the great machete?
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>>162429920
It is a spinoff with the exact same gameplay, people talk about armored core and king's field on here, atleast bloodborne is similar.
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>>162429969
It was hilarious, because he made /vg/ to contain the only threads on /v/ that were consistently about video games.

>>162429143
Mustards get extremely anal pained about not being able to play it on their cheat boxes.
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>>162430131
Bloodborne is similar but I wouldn't call it a spin off.
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>people in dsg, reddit and elsewhere getting upset at siegbrau's and db's
>despite the dev's putting limits on consumbles
>watch any japanese invasion video
>max siegbrau, db and budding blossoms slotted
I thought the honor meme shit was dead considering Soulbrandt and the like have fucked off. This isn't DeS grass or DaS1 mushroom/divine blessings, what's going on.
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>>162430289
Well it's got so many things different from the normal DS formula, not being medieval already sets it pretty heavily apart, but i don't know if spinoff is the right word.
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>>162413724
>literally got back up and pwnd u after the parry
noice
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>>162430362
they aren't related besides using the same engine and developers.
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>>162430362
I'd say it's more of a spiritual successor. Much like how Dark souls is to Demon's Souls.
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>>162430358
invasions != duels
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>>162397812
>Roman gladius
Confirmed retard

It's a xiphos
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>>162430486
>The decision by game director Hidetaka Miyazaki to create a new intellectual property (IP) and not another Souls game was made because Miyazaki wanted to create something "different"; at the same time, Sony wanted a new IP to be made exclusively for the PlayStation 4.
>wanted to create something "different"
>wanted to create something "different"
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>>162430585
>Wanted to create something different
>using the same button config and plays exactly the same and it has a ton of mechanics ripped from dark souls
Memezaki is truly a retard.
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>>162430585
Dark Souls was also different from Demon's Souls which was different from King's Field.
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>>162425897
remove the legs and there is a striking resemblance
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>>162430706
No shit, what are you trying to say?
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>>162430732
>dark souls 3 could have been SO MUCH MORE
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I wish /bbg/ and /dsg/ would be one again....
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>>162430672
He also hijacked Dark Souls 3 development because he wasn't happy with Bloodborne's gameplay or something like that
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>>162430867
But bloodborne's gameplay and mechanics were the best parts about it. Edgy dashing>>>>>>>Rolling
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>>162430918
he prefers medieval, swords, magic, miracles, pyromancies, etc
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>>162430672
>shooter developer decides to make new shooter
>uses the same control scheme as other shooters and carries over mechanics from shooters where relevant

DSPwow.jpg
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I dreamt that I fought Vendrick in the room with the giant rat in the depths. Around the halfway point, the Dancer joined in on the fun. Dark Souls 1,2&3 combined remaster confirmed?
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>>162430965
>I want to make something new!
>but lets use this old thing we've been using for years instead of making something new!
GREAT IDEA
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>>162431014
I wouldn't be surprised if they released a Dark Souls Collection in a year or two now that From Soft want to try new things instead of being "The Dark Souls Guys".
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>the core idea of AoA is conflict between ideologies of dwellers of painted world and Friede
>Pontiff carries on the will of painted world and desires to reset the world
>takes over Anor Londo for that
>Friede is a founder of the Sable Church which resides in Londor
>Londor is literally a New Anor Londo
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>>162431608
Speaking of ashes of ariandel, what is it with all the men from there being based and having monster like strength and what's with all the women there being top tier cuties?
Even the trees have nice tits.
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>>162431608
>Londor is literally a New Anor Londo

explain, i am an idiot
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>>162411757
They look like shit yet people use them anyways for no reason other than to get that absolutely irrelevant little boost just to minmax
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>straightsword range+speed
Who thought this shit was okay?
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>>162431705
Japanese video game developers that have yet to be infected by toxic Western culture. They can paint a fantasy world of knights and dragons and damsels in distress but still have the nous to to detach it from the real world.
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>>162431903
A perfect counter to ToD is far from irrelevant.
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>>162432047
>toxic Western culture.

You mean Americans?
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>>162430732
I remember seeing this screenshot and getting really excited about the inactive-weapons-on-back thing because it meant I could finally do a weaponmaster build where I have 6 weapons on me and it'd actually show up on the character

Jokes on me for getting excited after DS2 and Bloodborne, I guess
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>>162432119
>A perfect counter to ToD
only if the person using tears of denial is too retarded to have a blessed weapon or a sun princess ring ready

I can't count the number of times some retard with thorn armor tried to kill me by rolling only to get rollcatch destroyed
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>>162432186
You really think so? That social justice cancer is all over. The newest Battlefield game was developed in Sweden, Assassins Creed games are made by a French dev...
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>>162430918
But the Bloodborne influence on DS3 is literally what ruined DS3.

I'm biased because I never liked Bloodborne to begin with, but its influence in DS3 objectively worsened the gameplay of it compared to the previous Souls games.
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>>162430258
>Mustards get extremely anal pained about not being able to play it on their cheat boxes.
How long until you admit that it wasn't the mustard fags shitposting?

go check out /bbg/ right now. You can't mean to tell me the people there are all mustard fags. They're still going
>never ever
because that's all they can talk about
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>>162432493
explain
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>>162431608
there is so much underdeveloped lore left to explore in dark souls 3
will they be able to fill in a bit of everything in a single dlc?
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>>162432493
>objectively
>>>/v/
>>>/out/
>>>/trash/
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>>162432407
Why can't people be racist against whites?
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>>162432634
Miyazaki is going hard with dark soul of man so he will obviously try to tie loose ends.
AoA is a Pontiff/Londor DLC, second will probably tie Angels, Profaned Flame and Dark Soul.
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>>162432596
Well, rolling is faster, has more iframes, is harder to punish, and costs far less stamina than rolling in the previous games, making rolling insanely overpowered just like dodging is in Bloodborne.
Healing in DS3 is faster than ever, just like BB, but unlike the latter you can't actually punish it in DS3 because while evasive maneuvers have been buffed to fuck and back to be extremely quick and light, attacks are still the same old slow Souls combat, which means you have a balance in which it's impossible to kill someone who doesn't actually want to die.

Ontop of that, armor is completely fucking useless in DS3 despite equip load being harder to acquire than in previous games.

So the gist of the problem is that they took some elements from Bloodborne over, but not all of them. And the things that they did leave Souls-y just don't agree with that.

>>162432647
I actually meant to type "objectively influenced" rather than "objectively worsened" because the latter is just my opinion.
You're still a faggot though
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>>162432657
They can, but they can't pass it off as "tipping back the scales"
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>>162432657
I don't know how your question relates to my post.
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>>162424997
You're not really a faggot for using any greathammer, even that one. It's still far from a meta weapon.

As a sidenote, if you want to use a zweihander you should go with a quality 40/40 build. Unlike previous games, strength scaling on UGS are fucking terrible.
I'm honestly not saying this in a minmax sense. I used a zweihander on a pure strength build in the previous games, and it worked out just fine despite missing some AR from the missing dexterity. In DS3, it's genuinely awful for a strength build.
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>>162425289
What about this is OP? I'm genuinely curious, they seemed to be perfectly capable of rolling out of the combo. They just chose to be retards and roll back into the r1 spam shredder. The same thing happens with any weapon capable of prolonged r1 spam.
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>>162432717
is there any official info on the second dlc?
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>>162422515
Somebody yesterday posted nearly the exact same text as you just did now.

He was posting as anon.

I'm fucking onto you now, Lucifer. Have you been shitposting at yourself to make it seem like people still talk to you?
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>>162433452
Before they patched it, it used to be that the offhand attack was just fast enough to be able to stunlock infinitely. The only reason some of them were able to roll out of it is because the dude wasn't mashing the buttons fast enough.
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>>162433617
Probably, it's all he has in his life
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>>162420064
>>162419716
>spam chaos bed vestiges
It figures you'd think that's fun, shitcifer
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>>162433168
How? I easily killed ng+ friede with a heavy zweihander on my 40 str build.
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>>162433826
>he doesn't want to be Megaman
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>>162433912
Friede is pisseasy with any (ultra)greatweapon. Most bosses are pisseasy and have way too little HP to begin with, so you can make do with any old low-AR weapon and still not really suffer.

Have you ever tried to do PvP with one? At 40 strength and 11 dex, a zweihander has like 490 AR twohanded. 500 if you make it heavy. That's just fucking pathetic for a weapon like that. People will win trades with you using straightswords. In invasions you'll have hosts just eating 4 hits from you, then chugging the entire damage you just did back while you can't swing because your stamina is empty. It's actually laughable.

I'm sure you can somehow make do with it but it was just too much for me to bear with, and I honestly really enjoy doing PvP with shitty weapons. I used to dualwield pickaxes and bandit greataxes in DS2 and had a blast, and now in DS3 I'm using whips and I'm still having more fun than I did with the zweihander on a pure strength build.
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>>162433168
>Unlike previous games
???
Zwei is exactly the same quality weapon in DS1 as it is in DS3.
The only thing changed is that UGS lost AR in comparison to DS1 ones in general.
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>>162434143
>Most bosses are pisseasy and have way too little HP to begin with,

Sometimes I felt I was the only person who felt this way. We need another monster like Manus who takes a long time to beat
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>>162434180
All numbers 2hand:

DS1
>40/40 Zweihander: 621
>40/11 Zweihander: 544

DS2 (note it requires 12 dex here for some reason)
>40/40 Zweihander: 472 (522 with RoB)
>40/12 Zweihander: 452 (502 with RoB)

DS3
>40/40 Zweihander: 597 refined
>40/11 Zweihander: 507 heavy

You can see the gap is bigger than it was in any game before. Much bigger if you realize how defense works in Souls games.
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>>162430732
wtf at those serpents in the air
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>>162434975
Fell beasts
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Anyone on the PS4 wanna take down NK, Oceiros, and Dragonslayer Armor?
I'm at +6 weapon and level 51
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Will you buy Dark souls for the nintendo switch next year?
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>>162435209
The only remaster i'll ever buy is Demon's Souls, and only to enjoy a rejuvenated community for a couple of months.
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Which Boss Soul Weapons should I get in Ds2?
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>>162435309
skeleton halberd
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>>162434484
The gap between STR and quality scaling in DS1 is 77, in DS3 it's 90, 13 AR ain't much of a difference even considering the damage formula. Zwei works exactly the same between two games.
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>>162435209
>buying yet another stillborn nintendo console
nah fuck off, i've had enough of this shit with wiiu, never buying anything from them ever again
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>>162435376
You mean Roaring Halberd?
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>>162435412
You juggled those numbers around a lot just so you can say it's 13 AR.

No, it's a 77 AR difference in DS1, and a 90 AR difference in DS3. You can't use the difference between those two numbers because it's not meaningful, especially if the effectiveness of AR is exponential due to how defense works.
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>>162435492
yeah, it's a great weapon and helped me get through ng+ with covenant of champions as the enemies have way too much HP and kill you in one hit.
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>>162427078
Am I the only one that liked that boss?
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>>162436039
No, i like them too. They just need to build the curse faster and use force and healing miracles more. Overall it's the best fight of this type in the entire franchise though Failures still have a better visuals and ost.
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>iron passage
How the shit is this fair
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Is Demon Souls US ded like the Euro version?
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If I'm starting a new save on Bloodborne, how long will it take to get to the DLC area?
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>>162405765
This isn't even a good joke.
Miyazaki stated in an interview that 2nd dlc would be more lore-heavy. The style of the dlc is also apparently going to be more "gothic" so I'm guessing Cathedrals and the Sable Church of Londor?
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>hanging out at belfry sol
>invaded
>summon the NPC in the corner
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>>162437092
You can access it as soon as night falls, so after you kill Vicar Amelia.

It's balanced around the late-game though, so you'd probably wanna sprint through everything and scoop up whatever you want. You'd have to fight the bosses depending on what you want though.
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How much longer until people realize that sl80 is much better than sl120 for pvp?
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>>162437520
Why?
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>>162418357
>be playing dks3
>see opponent announce a running attack by backstepping
>roll/parry their attack
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>>162437232
Why is that guy so tanky? I'd invade people and could kick the hosts ass but all he had to do was start running behind the npc, guy hits hard and takes zero dmg.

I said fuck it and black crystaled out.
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>>162438082
Because dks3 gives you the most stats at sl1 out of all of the games, anything below 70% equip load is good, and investing in vit for heavier armor is nearly pointless. The decreased stats will make more builds viable just as unembered health in the area did. There are a lot of weapons that don't benefit much from going 40/40 and because of that they aren't used and at lower sl 40/40 builds actually have to give up health for damage. At lower sl you get more build variety because everyone you run into doesn't have 1401 health. Because all builds get everything they need and barely differ weapon damage breakpoints are pretty constant. 351 a hit means 2 combos to kill, 234 means 3, 176 means 4, etc. Because most hits result in another hit if people had less health the higher damage weapons would still need to hit 2 combos while a lot of the lower damage ones would bump up a tier by needing one less combo for a kill.

TL;DR; Overleveled characters have the same stats which makes min/maxing extremely easy making a a lot of weapons pointless. Medium rolls need to be nerfed.
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>tfw no paired repeating crossbows
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>>162439472
just take two avelyns
actually fuck it, fill all slots with avelyns
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Let him be accused O Lord come.
Amen
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>>162439472
Paired weapons are a meme and a really stupid one too.
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>>162439662
>dude what if we make leggings that are a pair of boots and cuisses
>aight sounds cool
>and nothing else
>you mean-...
>no pants.
>but-...
>no pants.
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>>162430840
All the relevant Bloodborne discussion is already here anyway.
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anyone has a ds1 character roll sheet? wanna replay the game in a fun way
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>>162440357
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>>162440446
thanks famalam, rolling
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>>162439916
literally the best legging in the game
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>>162385630
As long as you have fun you are not autistic.
Dont listen to the faggots here and just keep doing what youre doing.
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dlc when
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Sexy tree women seem to have wings, like Pontiff.
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>>162441359

That weeping tree is Sillyman's mommy
source: I say so
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>>162441359
>that hud
How
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>>162441359
I trust whatever my french wife says!
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>>162441430
This one is a random one, his mommy is in the frozen lake, crying

>>162441479
Mods
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>>162441607
Cease your faggotery this instant
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>>162441607
I was banned 2 days for bf posting ;-;

Let's marry before the next ban
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>>162441430
https://youtu.be/QLcT7noiu-E?t=20m20s
;_;
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>>162442072
Sweet child, where have you ran off to

WHY DIDN'T WE GET THIS
6 MONTHS, 6 FUCKING MONTHS, AND THEY HAD TO CUT ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THINGS IN THE DLC
I'M MAD

SWEET HUSBANDO, YOU'RE MINE
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>>162442272
I'm still mad about cut Artorias voice lines.
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>>162442443
His "Hurr talking boss ruin the mystery" reasoning is known but I don't get why the dialogue lines for the tree woman were cut. Because if there was any way to get her to talk it would have been found by now
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>>162442443
im not, they were cringy as fuck. im more mad about quelaag's, since they carried a whole covenant behind them
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>>162442443
Those were cringe as fuck though
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>>162442443
He has a pretty faggy voice desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upzLAJhtnvk

"Ah, Sif, there you are *cough* All of you, forgive me"

This one though
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>>162442568
There's nothing wrong with talking bosses, in fact some of most atmospheric bosses ramble. But Artorias' presentation was adequate without dialogue
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>>162442550
>fighting against Dark Soul in final DLC
>at the end of a fight it starts acting strange
>Sully appears and absorbs it into himself, sprouting giant dark wings and revealing his true face
>main theme of DS3 starts playing and fight against him starts
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>>162442568
I'm not saying they should use all of them, but the one where he mentions Sif would be a nice touch.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW71azZTm70
why boner
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>>162442949
I want that
But I would rather have a modified version of the main theme, or a completly new one.
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>>162442443
They were fucking awful.

>>162442072
>dat orgasm voice

>>162442072
I'm conflicted. The tree woman is certainly something, but I really disliked the sweetly rotting bed guy since he just sounded like a regular human. Nothing the voice actor can really do about it, but it was a fuckup on the part of the voice directing.

For example, the corvians should be cawwing instead of talking like regular humans, or have cawwing and shrieking mixed up with their regular dialogue, having a fucked up halfbreed creature like that have normal human dialogue is kind of an antithesis to the atmosphere.

Although the corvian is excusable since his dialogue is interesting enough.
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>>162443396
Corvians are just humans malformed by worship of Velka. Human voice made them less abhorrent and more likeable.
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>>162440446
rolling
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>>162443519
I actually thought it made them cute in an ugly way
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>>162443519
>human voice made them less abhorrent
Yes, but it's in stark contrast with the visual design of them.

Although I didn't like how Pornifex's dialogue in DS2 turned out, at least there was genuine effort in the voice acting to communicate that it was an animal-person.

Although the best attempts thus far have been the crows(excluding DS2) and Alvina/Shalquoir.
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>>162442072
>volume was crazy loud
>start of video sounds like a loud moan
>quickly click in a random place in the video to shut her up
>"oh the scent of that woman" blares out afterward
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>all statues in ariandel are destroyed specifically so you couldn't see the face of this woman
>Friede's chapel has all her paintings stacked in one place, obviously confscated from all around the village
Who is she?
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>>162443712
Alvina was an attempt, like ornifex, just not as good. Shalqoir had a straight up human voice with only the personality of a cat at best.
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>>162443835
Alvina is way better than Ornifex as far as voice goes. She really speaks like i would expect from a huge, fat cat capable of human speech. Ornifex sounds straight autistic.
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>>162443815
Probably Velka. That exact same statue is also above the 4kings boss room and adjacent to its entrance. It also is around the top and base of the new londo lifts
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>>162443909
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ESqvGzdnvs
>tfw this still remains the best ending theme of all souls games even to this day
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Can you guys post some fashion souls for me to steal?
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>>162443957
I wanna _pet_ that cat.
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>>162444191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEIQlAH6wGY

Old One a best.
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>>162443941
>there are statues of Velka in the new londo
>painter girl is probably her daughter
>she has features of primordial serpents
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>>162444191
>tfw this is the best boss theme
This a remix yes, but its a great version. My statement still stands.

>>162444303
Here you go.
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>>162444303
Sure mate.
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>>162444960
Oops, forgot youtube link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qY-gWF9AF8
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>>162444898
>friede works against her
>she strayed from the path of londor
>londor is deeply tied to new londo
Checks out
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>>162444978
>everyone but top middle is garbage
>using iron helm as a sorcery limiter
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>>162445057
>Alex Roe
Absolutely based taste anon. He has an album of Souls-inspired music coming out today I think, or tomorrow.
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>>162444978
Top right, low left and low right are good.
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>>162444303
This tall, handsome and nihilistic fellow.
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>>162445213
Sounds good, I'll be sure to check it out if the Abyss Watchers one is anything to go by.

I've done that bossfight probably upwards of 20 or so times, but I watch the start and mid cutscenes for it every single time with the volume cranked up way high for the entire fight. The soundtrack alone makes it one of the best bosses in all of the souls games imo. Its just that good.
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>>162444978
I like top middle and lower left.
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made some oc
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>>162445547
That's a big dog
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>>162445718
Awuuuu
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>>162444960
>>162445057
>implying remixes count
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8onlW2jCWg
they don't but this is still baller
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>would you purge the abyss with me, anon ?
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>>162445358
That fight is incredible in presentation. None of the other Lords of Cinder come close except for the Homo Princes.

>cool and edgy attack animations
>second one starts attacking you before you can get the attack pattern of the first guy down
>the confusion when a third one appears and starts attacking the others
>the relief when you finally get the main one down and think the fight's over
>that cutscene
>that music transition
>the flame effects

It works really well as your first Lord of Cinder boss, since you don't know yet about the ember gimmick. I just wish the fight was a bit harder in the second phase. Have the final Abyss Watcher gain the poise glow from the DaS1 Wolf Ring visual effect or something so he can't be stunlocked.
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>>162446420
>chainmail underneath to make it more fashionable
>1 strike to her chainmail will dig it into her flesh and cause serious infection
>femoral artery exposed to look sexy

I'd leave her locked in her room until she learned to equip appropriately
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>>162446864
You can also bet your ass there is a generous amount of exposed cleavage in the front just waiting to get stabbed.
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>>162446420
She looks so backstable
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>>162446991
Stabbed by muh dick
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anyone for capra demon im sl 8 steam edition
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>>162446712
>>162446864
>>162446991
That's not cool. I really like the idea that the Abyss Watchers are all identical to each other because it reinforces the thought of them being an anonymous Legion. Personalizing the outfit makes you a fag like Hawkwood.
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>>162447157
But Eagletree is the coolest
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>>162445261
>those shoulders
looks like vaati finally drank his milk
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>>162447114
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>>162447293
I've yet to see an original image proving these supposed misshapen shoulders.
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>>162444978
both rights are really nice. really like that pyro.
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I don't know how, but I miss DaS2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW_naYvutYQ
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>>162447576
did you try googling "vaatividya"
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>Any long ranged mainhand weapon
>Any delayed offhand big weapon with a wide swing
>Roll catches every day

Love it.
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>>162448118
>Raime cosplay is viable
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>>162448195
It is though my broodsky.
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Is the undead match ever getting another arena
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>>162448195
You're fucked if they reduce your HP below 50% though
Or if they're using Morne's helmet.
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>>162448364
What do you think DLC2 is for?

heheheh

h e h e h e h

h ͏ ͏ ͏e ͏ ͏ ͏h ͏ ͏ ͏e ͏ ͏ ͏h ͏ ͏ ͏e ͏ ͏ ͏h

͏ ͏ ͏

͏ ͏ ͏

͏ ͏ ͏

.
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>>162447293
Now that you mention it
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Dude inputs reading ennemies lmoa
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Already did

>Quality
>Strength
>Dex
>Dark Sorceries/Pyros
>Pyro
>Pure Sorcerer
>Spell Sword
>Faith
>Bleed
>60/30 Faith - Dex with Brigand Twindaggers + Lightning Blade

What are some other fun builds to play? The funnest of them all was the Twindaggers one. Such an underrated weapon.
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>>162449368
>NG+ Holy Knight "parry king" Hodrick
That motherfucker made me rage so hard
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>>162449368
All games read your inputs, lol.
The difference is being able to disguise it so that it appears like "intelligent behavior".
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>>162449647
>drink estus
>the moment you hit square, Soul of Cinder lunges at you

That got me pretty pissed.
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>>162449796
Fume Knight does the same. Especially in coop.
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>>162448956
Being a barman must be fun as shit.
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>>162449796
>in pvp
>see some fuck trying to estus
>go in for the punish
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>>162449597
Regular NG Hodrick one-shotted me with a riposte when I was trying to fight him for Sirris' questline. Dude's fucking scary.
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>>162444303
drakeblood knight best knight
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>>162450006
>in pvp
>see some fuck trying to estus
>go in for the punish
>he rolls away scot-free
>hit him
>he estus and turns his back away
>go in for a backstab
>backstab animation starts
>it whiffs
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>>162450006
>pve
>enemy punishes you for double the estus heal

>pvp
>enemy punishes you for half the estus heal

If anything, using estus should cause some sort of critical damage hit if you are caught in pvp
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>>162450325
>bloodborne
>can parry heals for a visceral damage
>getting hit mid dodge has damage multiplers

Wish they incorporated this in DaS3. Rolls cost so little and healing is not as punishable as it should be.
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>>162450078
>tfw no good hoods in the game
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>>162450450
all the headpieces fucking suck in this game.
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>>162450568
Most of the fashion in this game sucks.
Also, fuck you Miyazaki for not bringing back wanderer set even if all the other games had it.
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>>162450745

I wish there were armor dye options and matching hues.

I can't do fashion if this piece of steel is brighter than this one, for instance.
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>>162450745
It's so hard to create a fashion that isn't absolute dogshit in 3.
>Chest/gauntlet pieces leaving arm exposed
>Head/chest pieces doesn't fit in the neck
>Leg/chest pieces looking weird in color and shapes
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What was DS2 meta again? SL150?
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anyone help me kill sif in steam prepare to die edition? im doing a low lvl run @ sl 8 currently
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>>162451384

I just go up to 2 million SM and stop caring

you can go up to 1,999,999 for cheese
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>>162451254
>get some matching pieces
>teleport to another location
>it looks like absolute dogshit due to different lighting
round of applause for A team
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>>162450450

>tfw this didn't make it to das3
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>>162451384

You should be good at around SL200+.
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death

DEATH to ALL russian FREAKS
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>>162444898
>>162445079
>Pontiff was born in painted world
>his cathedral alone has like four statues of Velka, even more of them in the water reservoir
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>>162451479
>low level run
>getting help
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>>162452398
The statues clothing looks like Gwyndolin's clothes from DaS1 though
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>>162452378
all slavs*
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I like this weapon, it's pretty
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>>162452398
Pontiff's bossroom also has those weird box thingies you find in the Friede bossroom.
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>>162452797
i keep getting her to 20% then she 1shots me
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>>162453085
>her
>she
You a dogfucker?
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>>162453085
you can climb the wall next to Sif's arena and shoot Sif with Poison Arrows.

Dunno if you need Pharis' bow or the hawk ring but I know I did it a couple of times.
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>>162452978
yeah, pretty useless
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>>162452978
All Pontiff's weaponry is pretty.
Wish it was as unique as scythe or curved sword.
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>>162453176
nah just educated
sif is a goddess name so i thought shed be a she in das as well
beat her now feels good
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>>162452978
Too bad its shit. Its like this with many of my previously favorite weapons too.

Like the mace. Something about it just feels off, and I'm just terrible with it now.
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>>162452969
accurate
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>>162453864
Mace was utter garbage in all previous games but actually really fucking good in DS3.
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>>162452978
>it's pretty
just like MY THICK COCK
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>>162454136

Mace was good in DS2, especially how OP the Homunculus mace was
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>>162454136
It just feels so slow in contrast with how fast most other weapons its size are.
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>>162454559
It was only good in pve. In pvp it was an irredeemable garbage. I think the only usable one had longsword r1 or something.
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>>162374237
Guy who completed all souls games bar souls 1 from yesterday if anyone remembers.

I've just beat the capra demon and my only options are the skeleton pathway and blight town as far as I know. Do I have to go blight town right now? the frame rate is dreadful and I don't have anything to cure toxic.
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>>162454670

>In pvp it was an irredeemable garbage

It has incredibly low parameter requirements for it's damage output.

So it was great for my hexer. I used it during my time as a Pilgrim of Dark and it worked great.

And when I had to get those orbs in the arena for abyss invasions, I was getting plenty of kills with it.
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>>162454987
>It has incredibly low parameter requirements for it's damage output.
There's like a myriad of much better pvp options with low requirements starting with a simple estoc or longsword.
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>>162454882
so you cleared the depths? or did you take the master key?
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>>162455125
Just googled the depths and no, I haven't been there. How do I get there?
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>>162430585
>>162430585
>>162430672


From Software has only made 3-4 games in their entire history. Chromehounds, Armored Core, King's Field, and maybe otogi. EVERYTHING else has been a sequel, spin off, or spiritual successor.

In their mind "something different" means anything that uses different styles,

Everything else is either a one-off developed for someone else (like monster hunter diaries).
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>>162454882
the moss lady in the aqueduct in the undead burg sells blooming moss clumps.

But honestly if you get toxic'd, just rush ahead and try to kill the toxic fuckers, they don't respawn.

>>162455373
Door in the lower undead burg
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>>162455095

>There's like a myriad of much better pvp options with low requirements starting with a simple estoc or longsword.

Estoc is useless unless you're using a GS, Black Scorpion stinger is better, since it has no scalings and you can dump everything into vitality and other stats, or the ice rapier if you want actual damage.

>Infused Dark Longsword
>157/157

>Infused Dark Homunculus mace
>203 /203

I prefer the damage output on the mace, and strike is the best damage type in II, due to the large amount of turtles
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>>162455373
go right of the capra demon fog door and there'll be a path to an area with stairs back up to firelink. The entrance to the depths is just across from it, and the capra demon gave you the key for it.
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>>162454882
>killed capra
you have the depths key then
there was a locked door down the steps from the capra room. continue through there
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>>162434484
>>162434180
In DS2:

S Dex = B Str

But you get poison and bleed bonuses from Dex, which is supposed to balance it out.
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>be pyromancer/melee guy
>Crystal Sage boss fight
>phase 2 starts
>clones appear
>use Fire Surge while walking around in a circle
>clones dying everywhere
>instantly find the real one

kek
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>>162455814
>ds2
>"scaling"
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>>162446420
this pic is good other than the face.
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anyone wanna hlp a sl8 guy kill 4 kings
my +5 zwei isnt enough for this shit
steam edition
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>>162455672
>>162455714
Cheers guys. I didn't even see the stairs on the right,probably because I had to run past loads of enemies/dogs to beat the boss and then I died after beating him when they ran through the fog gate. I thought it was a bit weird that it was a dead end. Does this lead to other places or do I have to go to blight town afterwards via the lift and blue lightning dragons?
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Rate my Nito cosplay
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>>162457046
jesus fucking christ spoiler this shit ffs
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I'd be willing to bet no one here would wanna play das2 with me..?

on ps3
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>>162457423
not on ps3, no :(
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>>162457046
wow spooky
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Oh my God I am blind
stop me from touching Reshade ever again
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>>162457963
you should probably stock back up on lifegems
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>>162456420
Scaling is great in DS2. It's just that it matters more for small weapons than for large ones.

The other weird thing is that because of the power increasing rings, benefits from scaling matter more once your vigor, vitality and endurance are acceptably high.

So there's some weapons like the Lost Sinner's Sword where running it -raw- infusion on base stats is better for ~150 SL pvp, because ROB will outdo the damage for the same level investment until your health is high enough to take advantage of other rings. That, and you get HUGE utility early on from a few points into INT/FTH instead of STR/DEX.

But if you're using a low base AR weapon at higher level PvP, scaling is crucial because it can triple your damage output without taking up ring slots.
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>>162457423

What would you like to do?
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>>162457963
>das3 elite knight player has flashback about when hubs were nice and had comfy music
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>>162458318
i love to pvp if you'd wanna spar around a bit. my SM is 55M
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>>162458286
>Scaling is great in DS2
Yes anon. Going with elemental weapons on base stats, slapping robflynn on top of them and getting a damage output only slightly weaker than full quality builds investing 60 points into attack stats is so great. Reminds me of early DS1. Except even DS1 fixed that shit in a year.
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>>162456993
You'll still have to do blighttown no matter what, one of the two bells is down there.
doing the depths first will just make you more well-prepared, and there is another path to blighttown after you finish the area
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>>162458391
>ds2baby tries desperately to show that ds2 is better at 3 at anything on each chance he have
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>>162458391
>ear raping chime noises
>comfy
no
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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this area takes a hot fat shit on hosts and I love it
>>
Is there a way to make candlewax head permanent? I want to invade people as a candlewax scholar but re-applying this constantly is getting tedious.
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>>162459281
corvian village is actually the least dangerous zone for the host
mountain pass, on the other hand...
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>>162459308
CE
though at that point you might as well do funner things than giving yourself a wax head
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>>162459107
>>162459176
I'm right though. DaS3 Firelink is grey as fuck with a boring ass cello and some boring ass woman chanting. 1's Firelink and Majula were bright and had comfy music.
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>>162458848
Scaling in DaS2 was fine, except for the fact that RobFlynn existed at all, players could have up to 3k health, and there was no reason you wouldn't just use a lighter weight weapon even if the previous two issues didn't exist in the first place because of the numerous factors that came into play.
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>>162459508
H-he's fast !
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>>162459853
Scaling in DS2 is fundamentally fucked and robflynn is just an icing on the cake.
Elemental infusions are too strong on base stats already (SOTFS even made them stronger by limiting the max elemental resistance player can achieve by 75% instead of 100%) which frees an immense shitton of points for hp/endurance. They have buffs too and access to magic systems on top of them.
Investment/return ratio of damage stats is probably the lowest in the entire franchise, invalidating the feeling of actually "building" your character.
I'm simply baffled this system still exists and wasn't patched out at the same time as soniculars, really.
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>>162458986
Oh i'm aware that i'll have to dot it, just wanted to put it off if I can. Thanks m8
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Is sl25/+2 good for darkmoon ?
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>>162458848
I think it's safe to treat all quality weapons as Strength weapons, with dexterity infused.

The gains from 40/min on most 'quality' weapons are about equal to the gains from min/min/fth if you go lightning.

It makes no sense to dump points into dex unless the strength scaling is 2-3 letter grades lower.
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>>162461216
>fume ugs needs like 30 dex
>bone fist too
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>>162459823
Nah, Majula and 3's tracks are awful.

Original firelink, nexus and dream are good hubs
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>>162460601
Source for this? Everywhere I've seen confirms that 900 = immune
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>>162460928

Dorkmoons are so pathetic

>WHY ARE YOU SIPPING, LET ME CUT YOUR EAR OFF REEEEE, WHY IS THIS DARKWRAITH NOT HONORABLE?
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>>162408852
I want to fuck his shota ass up there on his balcony
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>>162462526

>Souls players on PC

wow it's fucking nothing
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I really like ds3 lore. Can't wait to see what dlc 2 is going to be about.
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>>162462886
Everyone on PS4 moved to let it die
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>>162462526
Oh huh, everyone's done with the DLC and realizes how shit PvP in DS3 is. Go figure.

>>162462886
Souls is still a console heavy franchise. Remember, only about ~5% of gamers in Japan use PC. From and Bandai both consider PC gaming to be a niche thing.
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>>162463103
>Oh huh, everyone's done with the DLC and realizes how shit PvP in DS3 is. Go figure.
b-but the arena
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>>162460601
Yo dastard, you're supposed to hardcap your stats, giving you up to 70 extra AR over softcaps. Combined with the 2 hit system and multipliers for 2handing, heavy attacks, counters and instability hits shit adds up.
Just get off it.
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>>162462967
something completely different
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>>162462967
>mfw they open up a new bunch of lore branches without addressing existing ones
You know it's going to happen.
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>>162464502
>you're supposed to hardcap your stats
Oh baby, what next, mandatory SL838 to enjoy the true DS2 experience?
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>>162462526

>Dark Souls:Improvement of the best game has more players than Dark Souls: Prepare to meme edition

All is good in this world
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Can anyone drop me their dupes of the upgrade rocks in Demon's Souls? =(
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>Decide to go with an anti mage sort of build
>Vow of Silence
>Spell parry shield
>Paladin looking armor
>And a mace to club enemies to death
>Invade in Irythil
>Find host near the first bonfire after the dog
>See Pyromancer hand
>PERFECT
>Stand on the stairs waiting for him
>He gets brave and decides to throw the chaos bed vesitges fireball
>Pfft! I was build against this
>SPELL PARRY
>Since I'm above him and the angel is wonky
>I smack the fireball into my feet and fuck myself
I guess this stupid shield is going into the trash
What spells are safe to use spell parry? Never gonna try fireballs again
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>>162464863
If you actually tried to get out of your SL100 ghetto you would have noticed that the game is balanced for SL200+ pvp.
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>>162465129
>using spell parry shields to parry spells
LMAO
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>>162460928
what is this supposed to reference? also
>dorkmoons
>needing 60-80 levels of advantage
>telling anyone to be gud
>>
dead game
dead thread
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>>162464502
>>162464863
DS2 was designed to heavily nerf twinks and min maxing, because they were giving the game a bad reputation for shitty pvp and a memetastic playerbase.

So to get around this they softcap the stats a few times up to 40, and then give you more stats necessary to support the weapons so that you can't just invest the first 40 of your stats into max damage. On top of that, they make later-to-obtain buffs and rings important too, but unavailable at early game.
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>>162462967
the third sister, liliane
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>>162465129
You should use yorshka's spear too.
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>>162465010
Btw I'm talking specifically of Pure Bladestone, Pure Moonlightstone and Pure Faintstone
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>>162465274
>it gets good if you deliberately grind for an enormous amount of hours and shrink the playerbase available to you to such an extent you need to rape red eye orb for 10 minutes outside of an iron bridge to get an invasion, i swear!!!
No, anon. You stay in your 666m SM ghetto alone.
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>>162462967
Dark Soul of Man, anon.
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>>162465459
>DS2 was designed to heavily nerf twinks and min maxing
Then they fucked up so spectacularly it's just amazing, really.
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>>162465634
L O N D O R
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>>162465507

EU?
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>>162465340
>dickwraiths
>needing lategame maxed-out equipment, 198 humanities, and enemies to hide behind to kill newfriends with unupgraded weapons
>thinks they're gud
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>>162465784
AoA is already a Londor-themed DLC, we doesn't need more.
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>>162465129
anything that doesn't explode
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>Playing Iron Keep Bridge pvp
>doing pretty well with powerstanced greatswords
>this one asshole keeps invading or summoning me and all he does is use dark orb spam + dark katana. He will dick around and the second he gets hit will immediately run away and spam dark orb and chug estus

look guys, I get that you want to win the game, winning is fun, but when you use heavy meta to a point where other players have to hard-counter you just to win, take a hint and try something new
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>>162465786
Its Region 1. That means NA version, doesn't it? damn
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>>162465830
>implying dorkmoons dont have lategame maxed-out equipment, 198 humanities, and enemies to hide behind
>implying you can only invade in the parish
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>>162465515
who the fuck has to grind to reach SL200? I could start a new game and probably reach SL200 within ~30 hours. Less if I do a lot of PvP.

Anywhere from SL150 to 250 and you'll get summoned within seconds on Iron Keep. Stop making shit up if you're just angry that your arbitrary level number is no longer the new arbitrary level number for pvp.

And if you can't invest 30 hours, back up your saves, use agape ring, and actually learn how the game fucking works, then you probably shouldn't be playing dark souls pvp anyway, because you don't have the time to invest into it.
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>>162466058
>implying dorkmoons can even invade anyone who isn't already an indicted faggot that is fully prepared for the consequences of their actions
>implying anyone invades beyond anor londo, where players finally start standing a chance
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>>162465515
The soul requirements for leveling steeply increases AFTER SL200. You can get to SL200 in a few minutes by fighting the giant lord,, an afternoon to get to SL250. That's not grinding. It took me a whole weekend to gather soul to get to SL100 in DaS1.
Also most players don't care about SM, so you find the most activity in the high tiers. I don't get your need to lie.
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Actual full on replicant of the berserker armour when?
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>>162466353
>on Iron Keep
No thanks, organised pvp is garbage and DS2 is garbage for catering to duelfags so much.
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>>162466371
>Also most players don't care about SM
No, but they don't care about DS2 after finishing it up once which is 4m at best after which activity drops sharply.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0EzLc7NZg
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>>162466496
Outrider armor is almost there
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>>162466496
>add the unused vordt mask
>add an outrider armor variant with with a cape
if from weren't fucking faggots: soon
in reality: never
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>>162466370
>implying dorkmoons can even invade anyone
also, i dont know about you, but i almost exclusively invade sens/anal rodeo/duke's/catacombs/totg
>>162466496
never, miyazaki is a fucking tease. we got pretty good femto potential though
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Why do they ragdoll ?
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>>162465762
How?

It does exactly what it was meant to do. It just wasn't meant for the shitty pvp that made a lot of people actually not want to play DS1.

All duels were supposed to happen at the brotherhood of blood, or at a post-game SL. If you're invading before completing the game, or invading on a character you purposely didn't level up, you're expected to be at a disadvantage to keep you from ruining other people's gameplay.
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>>162466370

>implying anyone invades beyond anor londo, where players finally start standing a chance

Not him, but two things.

1. My favorite invasion areas are post-anor londo

2. Invaders frequently have to fight people who have a level advantage over them, and ganks. Just the other day, my level 60 character killed a level 304 in Anor Londo.
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>>162466645
DaS2 is over two years old with two successors.
DaS1 died when DaS2 was released. That's how it goes.
It makes me happy that you missed out on 2 years of active pvp just to shitpost, because you won't get any more;^)
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I am confused. I want that Alva set, but I can't get that fucker to invade. I haven't beaten Yhorm, and I am embered. What gives?
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>>162467272
You are banned. You can't be invaded by alva if you are banned
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>>162466503
>organized pvp is garbage

are you only capable of feeling enjoyment at someone else's expense?
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>>162466370
>>implying anyone invades beyond anor londo, where players finally start standing a chance
I invade @ SL120

Not everyone is a bitch my dude.
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>>162467141
>How?
with agape. in fact, because of the wide ranges it was possible to twink so much more in ds2, even more than ds1. it was harder to do so and one misstep could ruin a character but once you were done, you were invincible
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>>162467118
Because they're actual hollows, not empty armors this time around.
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>>162467490
if i want a competitive pvp i will go into games with good competitive pvp
souls pvp is dogshit if you look at it competitively
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>>162467387
I pirated it, so that might be it. But, what does online have to do with it? I have been invaded by other NPCs.
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>Using Drang hammers cause I fuckin love those things
>Decide to try the poison resin on them
>Tag someone with the L1 > L2 > R2 combo
>Poisoned in one combo
>My face when
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>>162467779
Alva is the "ban check" for players. Without him showing up you can never get his armor
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>>162467516
It was more POSSIBLE to twink but it was much, much harder and less rewarding. That's sort of the point. You weren't invincible, either. With the invasion timer, the best a twink could do is greatsword spam at players before the iron keep.
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>>162465010
>>162465507
Final bumping of a sad soul
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>>162467848
Well fuuuck. Can I edit it in using something?
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>>162467941
Nope. It's impossible to use CE without having online access
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why is greirat selling the pontiff knight curved sword? i just killed crystal sage
>>
best weapons for the hollow infusion?
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>>162467095
>>implying dorkmoons can even invade anyone
You know why they can't? Because everyone invades parish, before players can even have indictments.

>i almost exclusively invade sens/anal rodeo/duke's/catacombs/totg
You're in a ridiculously small minority there. In my 800 hours of DS1, I have seen precisely two invasions in Sen's, a fair amount in Anor Londo, one in Duke's, none in Catacombs (one or two attempted invasions, but they never actually connected), and one in Tomb. The overwhelming majority of red invasions happen in parish and Anor Londo. You'll be very hard pressed to find invaders in any areas where average players would actually be on par with them, equipment-wise. I spent entire days farming chunks and slabs in New Londo without ever seeing a single invasion there.

Gravelords are the only PVP covenant that isn't for complete shitters.
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>>162468163
ketene
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>>162465507
>>162465010
>>162467917

What SL are you?
I might be able to drop everything but Pure Bladestone.

PSN : EmoDragonZ
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>>162468006
On the game or the computer?
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>>162468445
76. I can level up if needed. Range should be 59 to 93 I think?
I have pretty much everything except for some Pure White/Black stuff that I might not have gotten. Boss souls and a lot of ores have already been duped to maximum.
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>>162468819
He's just joking with you
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