/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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>>162228287
Based

New ck2 dlc when

are there any poop and fart mods for ck2?

>>162228681
Not until the stars align and johan sacrifice a maternity full of ethnic swedes to appease the devil he made a bargain with, I heard DLC for Stellaris and HOI4 aren't doing well.

>>162228287
Finally a nice, white and based thread.

>>162228685

Prob on the steam workshop.

Or on some shady inactive forum[/spoiler

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>tfw 300 years later you're finally returning to reclaim the lands that some of your long-lost crusader brothers lost in the rich trading regions of India after a successful crusade.
>tfw finally liberating them from their oppressive lords who force them to practice heathen religions
>tfw going to set up an indian client state to purge this pooland and convert it to the rightful religion once and for all before vic 2 convert

>tfw the perfidious Prussian betrays you to the Autrians

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WHAT DO I WANT?
I WANT CHEEVOS
WHEN DO I WANT THEM?
I WANT THEM NOW

can someone please tell me a way to get achievements with legit EU4 but pirated DLC?

>>162230017
CreamAPI
If it doesn't work you're just fucked.
Stop whoring for fucking achievements.

>>162230017
sure buddy you play the game as you would and when you complete the requirements for the achievement instead of getting it by the 'legit way' you go and open your SAM program and give yourself the achievement that you should get

Rip MP

Vespi you meme

t. Irelad

>>162230223
B-but that's too much work anon
And I quite like popups

>>162230145
What is that? I know jack shit about computers

>>162230248
Ill play MP tomorrow after work
servers back up on christmas, see u there bb

>>162230454
It's a crack for the DLC you dumbass, which one are you even using?

>>162228975
>Francien

>>162230495
It's either SKIDROW or CODEX

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I may just be a dumb noob, but I can't understand whats happening in my current CK2 game. Pic related, and here's the background info:
>Be King of Ireland and Mercia
>End up with a queen, she does OK but pisses a lot of people off cause female ruler
>Queen dies, son takes over
>almost immediately, assholes rebel for increased council power; assholes hold most of Mercia
>Can't win on my own, Ally with Pictland
>Pictland helps, start to win
>Pictland switches sides apparently? Now hostile to both
>Rebels have their own rebellion
>Some petty Welsh kingdom also declares war
>Can't find anyone to make peace with. Not that they refuse, I can't even make the offer. Checked the leader of the revolt, checked the Welsh king, checked the Pictish king
What do I do? Is my game bugged?

Also, note my relations; I'm hostile with Pictland twice apparently and also still allied with them somehow.

game crashed t.bh

>>162230718
I told you to get cream api last thread nigger, how much spoonfeeding do you need?

>>162230718
Jesus fucking christ
Go into the OP hastebin, make a throwaway email and throwaway account, download it from there.

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This is the typical Paradox Consumer.

>>162230764
It's because you've got a fag king

jk, your alliance with the picts probably died or they had one with the rebel leader or something

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>>162230929

>>162230974
How can I be both allied with them AND hostile with them though?

And why are they listed as hostile twice?

And why can I not make peace with anyone?

>>162230842
>>162230851

I-I'm sorry anons
I'm absolutely retarded when it comes to these things

And thanks, it seems it's working nicely

>>162230764
just uninstall.exe or reload last save.exe

>>162231050
>EU 5
pls no more mana or clauswitz

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>>162231050

>>162231196
>>162231050
>>162230929
Make them disappear.

>>162231145
they actually believe paradox is working on a sequel for eu4 or CK2. do they honestly think paradox gives 3 fucks about releasing a new good game? looking at the mess that was hoi4 and stellaris we can all say that they dont care anymore if the base version of the game is shit, if it doesnt sell well they will abandon it if it does sell well even if it's shit they will keep making dlc for it

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>>162231196

>>162231319
>Stellaris
They made the mistake of it not being an autism simulator at first. Then you casualizethe sequel for the """Hardcore gamer""" crowd

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>>162231330

>>162231315
no

>>162230929
Leather jackets are actually fine though, they're warm and block wind and usually have a shitton of pockets for you to put things. The edgy shit is usually a longcoat.

>>162231330
Well he's right about EU desu, I mean what does the game even render to begin with? There's the units and ships and that's it right? Unless he's literally talking about performance and processing speed.
>TW
>implying total war doesn't need good frames
Holy shit end him

>>162231330
This guy is right tbqhfam. FPS is pretty meaningless in grand strat.

Hell, its importance is overblown in anything but shooters.

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>>162231457

>>162231498
>anything other than shooters

That's fucking retarded, I can understand not caring about fps on a literal map. But in 90% of all games FPS is a pretty big fucking deal.

>>162231460
he is a casual retard that probably only auto resolves in total war, and since he doesnt have a normal pc he doesnt understand that a better performance increases the faster the days go and how smoother the end of the month processes.

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>>162231457
>>162231330
>>162231196
>>162231050
>>162230929
pls stop

>>162231498
It's highly important in anything that wants to actually look good, and while you might choose to run it at 30 because you have an actual entry-level gfx card, poor optimization is still poor
Basically the only times it doesn't matter is when 95% of the game is literally static and not animated where the only movement comes from shitty idles nobody ever sees and scrolling, like Civilization or GS games.

>>162231669
>only auto resolves in total war
What is even the point of playing the game at that point? The entire draw of TW is the epik battles, the campaign map is a shoddy 3.5/10 grand strat that basically exists so you don't pull the epik battles out of your ass.

>>162231673
>he cares how good his games look
Nigga please. I play games for gameplay. If I cared about graphics I'd spend all day pirating IMAX movies.

>>162231754
look at the way he types his comments, he is probably a retarded redditor that wants to form his PERFECT ROME AKA EVERY SINGLE PROVINCE OWNED BY ROME while building it to the max. he is probably a guy that is within the specter of autism

>>162231806
>play a game that is meant to look pretty and scenic like Witcher 3 or something
>dude play for the gameplay xD
Are you a powergamer

feels good to allow the newbies to hugbox... heh....


3:1 KDA prussia forever frogs litter the farms of berlin heh...

>>162231872
>Games are art
You might as well kill yourself

>>162231954
yeah you would probably have more of a challenge if you played vs the ai , they managed to lose vs the ai before so.

>>162231954
>>162232048

>>162231978
This is retarded
The graphics in genres like open world rpgs or games like TW is literally part of the gameplay and a core appeal of it.
If you can't understand why people might find prettiness in games a good thing I dunno what to say, esp. when the game is not only marketed as such but is built off it. Again, in Witcher 3 one of the biggest appeals is its relative openess. Of course, the art doesn't stand on its own, but it certainly enhances the game's atmosphere.
I mean, why even use graphics at that point? I can easily play RPGs in a goddamn linux terminal or emacs program. At that level FPS is a moot point.

>>162232181
People with autism can't be convinced of other opinions that they already have a certain view of, nor can they empathize with others and understand subjective experience.

>>162231806
>games that look amazing and have good gameplay are somehow worse than games that look like garbage and have good gameplay
kys my man

>>162232181
>I can easily play RPGs in a goddamn linux terminal
The first computer RPGs were literally just text adventures and their completed form read like a D&D transcript, because that's basically what they were.

>>162232275
>not playing text based grand strategy games
kys my lad

>>162232064
tell me this story of how they lost to the A.I

>>162232181
You don't need """prettiness""" in games, Gerard could be a fucking stick figure in open world and it wouldn't take anything away from the game Except you'd have no excuse for the sub par gameplay anymore

>>162232405
See >>162232270

>>162232386
>sweden
>I won war with russia but netherlands peaced out, and it turns out they were the war leader (weren't even a GP)

>Then declared war on denmark and UK allied them immediately (REEEEEEE)

>japan
>lost to reactionary rebels when he wasn't looking, lmao

>netherlands
>prussia became war leader and peaced out without his wargoals, cucking him

>sardinia piemonte
>couldn't beat austria with france

>serbia
>got wrecked by austria then invaded turks and russia didn't join his war

>wallachia
>did nothing then left

that's how they lost vs the ai the only guy that survived that mp was america that won the civil war.

>>162232580
Oy vey the """subjective""" experience, you sound like my diversity teacher.

>>162232351
>text based grand strategy games are somehow better than a graphically based one that includes all its features and doesn't sacrifice anything
The only reason powerusers use terminal programs instead of graphical ones is because they're lighter and generally a bit faster, and also because they usually sit in their terminal instead of on their desktop anyway so it's legit faster to get to. Unless you have something against graphics on principle I can't fathom it.

>>162232405
The thing Witcher 3 is praised most for is, after 'storytelling' and 'living world', 'atmosphere'. Atmosphere adds to the living world - seeing the city whore go home to her kid after the sun rises and say 'mommy is going to sleep for a bit, don't stray too far' is added to by the slum feeling of the city, the rising sun in the background, etc. and the little pieces of lore scattered all over the place do the same thing, adding to the open world feeling, enhanced by the atmospheric graphics. I've rarely if ever seen anyone praise the combat system, shit fucking Gwent gets more praise despite it being literally hearthstone-tier.
People like you don't understand that gameplay entails all aspects of the game's experience and think that in shit like /tg/ games the 'gameplay' is minmaxing combat skills and 'balance'. If the game was designed to impress graphically then yes, it matters, and even if it wasn't, looking better rarely if ever hurts.

>>162232662
>opinions are not subjective
Are you a diversity teacher

>>162232640
now tell me the story of the MP game that just happened!

>>162232862
>Implying there isn't an opinion hierarchy
Do you even Bourdieu?

>>162232662
Dude, are you retarded? There isn't just one way of experiencing the world, how naive are you? With that opinion you're implying that mental illness doesn't exist and that people can't experience taste, colors, and sound differently. You need to go do some acid, gain some perspective.

Inb4 liberal hurr hurr, I'm a Euro/Western zealot and believe that all other cultures should be destroyed. Also inb4 edgelord.

>>162232862
>responding to my shitpost un-ironically
WEW LAD

>>162232864
idk about that one but looks like they got raped by a guy that actually knows how to play liquor simulator 2

>>162232640
m8 he's talking about the MP from tonight

UK, France, Spain (in the first war), and the Netherlands all worked to nip grossgermaniums at the bud.

They lost the first war but won the second, with great casualties due to prussian superiority and ebin dice rolls

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S-someone tell me the process to correctly get the PSGK checksum

>>162233069
install v2
opt into the beta patch
install the most recent version of hpm

there you're done

>>162233013
>Claim he want to destroy point of view he doesn't like
>Argue that they're on the same level as his
>Tell me to do drug
>But I'm not liberal I swear
Nice cognitive dissonance there pleb.

>>162233049
ah i see , well im off to play blobbing simulator 4 ,

>>162233069
Are you the guy that tried to join earlier?

Anyway, download this https://mega.nz/#!exMGUQAJ!D-ziwMfaHdtSnhMRmq7UGVpDmhvPwtnW68aAGtfXlRQ

then extract the HPM Mod (https://www.dropbox.com/s/anjg7ctwsbbizzc/HPM%203.6.1.7z) into your mod folder

start the game without the mod once, quit. then start the game with the mod enabled then restart.

you should have PSGK then

>>162233132
also you have to restart once you've launched it for the first time

>>162233049
how early on did prussia get fucked

>>162233013
>just do le drugs bro lmao
Kek, should have expected this old chestnut.

>>162232997
Opinions cannot be right or wrong unless they contradict or 1:1 correlate a fact (facts are kind of fucked up in philosophy anyway but let's just use the normal definition of fact for now).
There can be effective differences in opinion validity, there can be opinions that are more qualified because of differences in factual basis, there can be widely held opinions that can be treated effectively fact because of that, but there's no actual difference in opinions, especially ones that aren't predictions or relative to fact, but matters of taste, which is more or less the prime example of something that is purely subjective (ignoring subjective reality).

>>162233310
first war was 1838 I think, and the second 1842, which france declared right after he started war with austria

>>162233178
>>162233318

I want to destroy viewpoints that are intolerant of any other viewpoint than their own. You can't tolerate intolerance lad.

( Me )" Let's give this blind man sight so he can see have a deeper understanding of the world. "
( You ) " Wow dude what a bunch of liberal bullshit, that's so bad because it is bad. "

>>162233414
what were the names

>>162233424
>You can't tolerate intolerance lad
No, that's wrong. Intolerance is itself a type of viewpoint. The only time you 'don't tolerate' them is when they begin to spaz the fuck out and actively attack other viewpoints.

>>162233424
>I want to destroy viewpoint that don't agree with my viewpoint
>Because they're worse than mine
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AKA DOUBLETHINK

>>162233473
Of the wars? I don't remember the first but the second was french liberation of A-L

>>162233629
of the guys playing

>>162233424
>Let's give this blind man sight so he can see have a deeper understanding of the world
That doesn't make sense. Who are you trying to give sight? Who is the blind man here supposed to be? How is this even a viewpoint, it's a proposal, not an opinion. In this case the other guy would just be, for whatever reason, thinking your proposal is a poor idea.

And again, here you're being intolerant yourself. People who 'aren't willing to listen' aren't intolerant, they're decided. Nobody in this thread was 'unwilling to listen' to begin with, they just had their opinion and didn't think the reasoning their opponent presented was sound or consequential. People who are intolerant are people who actively persecute other opinions - for example, Paradox Forums is intolerant, because it actively attacks anyone who disagrees that Paradox is The Lord's work and is unwilling to listen to any other viewpoints.

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Inviting Switzerland to this great war was the best idea I've had in a long time

>>162233515
>>162233530

A society that has established a perfect peace is encountered by a society that is warmongering. They attempt to invade the peaceful land. One man says that they must fight those who do not want peace in order to maintain peace. Another man says " Pffffffffffft, DUUUUUDE double think LMAO!!! " " If we defend ourselves than we are unpeaceful XD. "

This isn't double think it's a paradox in " logical " thought, or the way that humans perceive the world. We attribute value to a concept but in an attempt to defend that concept the concept must be violated.

>>162233739
See above, also you totally failed to see the point in the metaphor. I honestly can't tell if you're feigning ignorance and pushing my point to the side to try and attack my viewpoint, or if you're just retarded. I believe that ALL viewpoints should be tolerated, other than those that want to impose themselves on everyone e.g. Islam.

I hate to interrupt the shitposting, but >>162218549

If anyone cares to provide any ideas, what I'm hearing so far is firmly DH/HoI3. For DH we've got Kaiserreich Germany/China and vanilla Germany/Italy. For HoI3, Japan and China have so far been suggested.

>>162233970
Victoria 2 MP.

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So lads, tell me why in my converter save many of the correct cultural union nations that transferred don't have the ability to form their historical greater union nations such as this England -> GB?

Is there anyway I can trigger it manually? Kinda want to see Scandi/Spain/Ireland/GB at this point.

>>162233924
Tell that to a Jain, he'd rather die than harm another being. So yeah it's doublethink, you just try to rationalize it because you know you're wrong but can't accept it.

>>162233924
>I honestly can't tell if you're feigning ignorance and pushing my point to the side to try and attack my viewpoint
I literally don't know what your point is. What is the metaphor? What if the other guy's viewpoint is that blindness has its own value?

>One man says that they must fight those who do not want peace in order to maintain peace. Another man says if we defend ourselves than we are not peaceful.
Both of these are fucking viewpoints you imbecile. You just happen to agree with the first.

>I believe that ALL viewpoints should be tolerated, other than those that want to impose themselves on everyone e.g. Islam.
You're imposing your own viewpoint that they should all be tolerated except those select few on the entire thread right fucking now.

>Islam
Islam doesn't consider itself a viewpoint, but a statement of fact, so that's the biggest difference. I don't particularly agree with them, but that's immaterial.

>>162233924
>One man says that they must fight those who do not want peace in order to maintain peace. Another man says " Pffffffffffft, DUUUUUDE double think LMAO!!! " " If we defend ourselves than we are unpeaceful XD. "
This is literally Jainism.

>>162234238
No wonder they disappeared

>>162234287
It didn't. They just don't commit atrocities so they get no publicity.

>>162234287
Just like the Zoroastrians disappeared right

>>162234347
>>162234383
By 'disappeared' I meant became completely irrelevant, so yes, just like Zoroastrians.

>>162234584
The only religions that became 'relevant' are the ones are incredibly fucking intolerant. These incredibly fucking intolerant religions also have the second bonus of having an immense, easy-to-obtain carrot (literally eternal happiness) and an immense stick (literally eternal suffering), so they spread like a goddamn cancer.

>>162234584
That's pretty ignorant of you to say that, Parsi are still pretty relevant today.

>>162234704
Compared to the only three religions your average American will know (Islam, Christian, and Catholic), it's pretty irrelevant.
Oh I forgot paganism, how could I.

>>162234170
I wanted to stick to metaphors but this is a perfect example of that happening in real life. You know what happened to the Jain? They got fucking eliminated, almost wiped from the face of the Earth, because they refused to defend peace the most sacred thing to them. Also you just committed a serious logical fallacy, " A group of people did that thing this one way!!! My point is proven I'm right!!! "

>>162234347
There are 5 million total in the world.

>>162234383
Zoroastrians disappeared because their religion was highly decentralized and didn't incentivize/improve moral and ethical values of the populations it occupied. Islam created a theological incentive to invade non-Muslim realms and spread the religion. Christianity created extremely efficient and highly centralized political entities.

>>162234693
>The only religions that became 'relevant' are the ones are incredibly fucking intolerant.
See Islam in the current year please.

>>162234828
Except my point was that you are victim of cognitive dissonance. I used facts and you used strawman and anectodes then you're the on accuse me of using logical fallacies.

>>162234828
>See Islam in the current year please.
Is it not irrelevant?

>Zoroastrians disappeared because their religion was highly decentralized
Not particularly. Considering the Christians spread like a fucking plague when there was no center whatsoever for 200 years?

>and didn't incentivize/improve moral and ethical values of the populations it occupied
Zoroastrianism is probably the first religion on the planet to emphasize 'good words good deeds choose Ahura Mazda instead of Angra Mainyu'.

>Islam created a theological incentive to invade non-Muslim realms
So yes, a giant fucking carrot with 72 divine sexbots waiting for you if you die in battle, and incredible intolerance.

>Christianity created extremely efficient and highly centralized political entities.
Only during the Roman Empire and schisms happened almost immediately. At any rate that alone hardly explains its rate of spread. It was also, as I said, incredibly fucking intolerant. "Pagan" originally referred to Jews and Christians because they were stuck up pricks about shitting on everyone else's gods and ruining their day.

>>162233886
>play switzerland
>break my own neutrality ASAP
>France spheres Sardinia Piedmont
How the fuck am I supposed to access the ocean now?

>>162235183
Belgium

>>162235183
through northern france of course

>>162233886
>Poland-Lithuania
>Lithuania
>Austria-Hungary
>Hungary
For what purpose

>>162234828
>I wanted to stick to metaphors but this is a perfect example of that happening in real life. You know what happened to the Jain? They got fucking eliminated, almost wiped from the face of the Earth, because they refused to defend peace the most sacred thing to them.
You're literally wrong. They defended peace, because to them there is literally no act more atrocious than commiting violence. SUFFERING violence is different from committing it. While others might be asses for being violent, if you, who professes to defend peace, turns to violence for it, it makes you both a terrible sinner and a fucking hypocrite.

>Also you just committed a serious logical fallacy, " A group of people did that thing this one way!!! My point is proven I'm right!!! "
Yeah we are. The point we're making isn't that their way is right. The point we're making is that they have a viewpoint, they have their own sets of values, and you shouldn't be allowed to trash it and say 'lmao no it doesn't count because it's stupid'. It's not even being intolerant, it's just alien to you because it has a different set of values and a different set of beliefs you've never seen before

Stop being such a fucking hypocrite. The Jains have their values. They will not attack even if they are under attack. They're ready to die in their vow for peace. Who the fuck are you to say your values are worth more than theirs? For all your precious talk of tolerance, at least the Jains are willing to die for their beliefs and not contradict themselves.

>>162235110
>>162235112
I'm too tired to write an essay in response to all of this. I'm spastic enough but it's 1 in the morning and I'm going to bed, maybe I'll respond tomorrow.

Take some shitty incomplete responses.

>>162235110
>cognitive dissonance
" You have an opinion that differs from mine, therefor you experience reality in an altered and flawed state " Kind of funny how you acknowledge that there are many different ways of experiencing the world without while holding the opinion that that's impossible.

I also used easy to understand metaphors, light references to historical instances relying on you to know the context. I'm sorry you didn't understand these.

>>162235112
I'm positive we would agree on 90% of the bullshit that you just wrote out if we were to continue the conversation, but I can't bring myself to write more shit. I agree with what you say there have it.

>>162235347
It's a difference of opinion to be honest, while you put an infallible amount of value into the subject I put a slightly lesser degree to it. In order to preserve freedom of opinion, speech, though, what have you it must be defended from things that want to destroy the freedom of opinion, speech, and thought. To me the two things are separate, there is that which is tolerable and intolerable and it's not based of some arbitrary feeling or line of thought. The intolerable is objectively identifiable, as being that which is imposing of it's beliefs. It's a paradox bud, you can scream logical fallacy, double think, and cognitive dissonance all you want but it just comes down to a matter of personal ( subjective ) opinion.

Sorry for it being poorly written I don't care enough to put enough effort into it and I'm having trouble staying awake. Also tphilosophymajorpro

What's the best country to BTFO (Blow Turks the Fuck Out) ?

>>162236048

Which game?

>>162236048
They become very shitty after the first years so any GP can easily beat them, just make sure they aren't on anyone's sphere like Russia's or France's

>>162235941
>It's a difference of opinion to be honest
But that's my point. I haven't shown my own opinion yet, I'm merely pointing out that other opinions exist, that they are not intolerant (saying 'I will not be violent even if I will die in the process' is not somehow hypocritical, Jains despise the act of committing violence why the fuck would they commit violence to stop others from being violent?), or that even if they are, they are literally just as valid as your own, and that if you say 'these opinions are invalid because X' then you are also intolerant. Even a fundamentalist christian is likely to be open to discussion on topics not covered in the Bible, like say pre-christian history or tastes in music. To him, your opinion is invalid because X where X is 'somehow contradicts the bible'. It's the same as you.

>>162236131
Victoria 2

>>162236141
I mean for RP purposes. I usually end up sphering or puppeting them so I want to make up for that by dedicating a whole game to their destruction.

>>162236248
O, then Russia (you can get the entire Levant for free) or Austria (obvious Balkan interests)

>>162236248

If you want to be a underdog, then Greece or Serbia.

>>162236210
I didn't say they were invalid at any point, I said that in order to preserve freedom of X you need to break that freedom against those who want destroy it. If I did say or imply that then fuck me, sorry I'm tired. I'm actually going in and out of conciseness as I'm writing this. This is my final reply good night, if you post again I'll reply later with a pic of a candle with Jesus on it with Christopher Walkins head on it instead of Jesus with your post number written on it.

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what is the best setup for obligation laws?

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How do we unite the /gsg/ people under one banner?

>>162237539
liquor

>>162228975
Are you playing a mega campaign?

>>162237859
Probably >>162234169

>>162234169
just cheat

>inb4 hitler fedora.jpg

>half the thread is some fags arguing about philosophy and centralization
epic

>>162238235
> centralization
Where?

>>162240156
>>162240139
>based mods delete gay ass stale memes and shitposting
>this is a bad thing

>>162240216
suggest a better mod then

>>162240261
post better content then

>>162240326
I would rather the thread die, yes.

>>162240328
You start.

>>162240328
play based robmod

>>162240371
then you are a defeatist race-traitor

>>162240328
Caleb's Political Titles

>>162240371
>You start.
I'm not the one complaining.

>>162240382
What makes it better?

>>162240501
I don't have to do anything. Watching your unfunny posts get deleted by our based jannies is good enough for the moment.

>>162240501
memes

>deleted
What?

>>162240545
If you want to suffer without attempting to improve the situation, that's your prerogative.

>>162240646
The situation is being improved and if your embarrassingly bad jokes continue to get deleted, then things are already looking up.

>>162240695
yes, it is the most autistic board on fourchan

>>162240695
Let's be real
What is more autistic - actually trying for six hours, or counting and then knowing through mathematics that it is not possible?

>>162240695
Nice video game related post.

>>162240718
then why are you complaining?

>>162240768
I was having a laugh at how petulantly you reacted when the big mean janny deleted those posts you worked so hard on to impress us with.

They should really stop making dlc for Eu4 at this point. Honestly it feels like the modding community are doing much more to make the game better than the actual developers.

>>162240695
inb4 deleted

can you faggots stfu

>>162240919
From every shitpost they delete two new take it's place.They can't stop us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMtVu-ZtwEk

>>162240874
>it's an anon pretends he wasn't mad episode

>>162241062
Nice meme from /tv/. Wonder what it's like to not be able to have an original thought.

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>steamcordplaza leddit is at it again

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Rate autism, might mod it into EU4 for funzos.

Merchant Republic or Absolute Monarchy?

One is terrible, the other is based.

Do you want to be a sun god, or a meme version of the word dog.

>>162241390
>implying there's a better place to laugh and make fun of paradox commie cucks

>>162241483
constitutional monarchy

>>162241520
what's your account name? seriously though.

>>162241253
wtf/10
Literally what is happening in France

>>162241541
I don't trust /gsg/ with even that

What is the most /gsg/ Digimon series?

Dammit, I want a /gsg/ Digimon series.

>>162241636
nah come on. I'll tell you the one that i use to troll /r/paradoxplaza as well.

>>162241253
>>162241253
I can't tell if I should hate you for even considering the Bulgarian Empire for existence, or love you for dismanting France and the UK.

>>162241705
alright...
https://www.reddit.com/user/spez

>>162241556
England captured Paris with Burgundy as allies, but the Burgundians backstabber them and took most of the French clay.

French King rallied the Occitan Lords to revolt, but instead of crowning him, they beheaded him and crowned their own King, which is why Toulouse is a thing.

Brittany allied Burgundy, which is why they got Maine and Anjou.

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>>162241928
Sounds fucked up
What happened to muh jeanne

>>162241885
very funny

>>162241783
The peasant rebellion never happened, and since Ottomans weren't there to pick up the pieces, the Bulgarians got their shit together again, it's the Second Bulgarian Empire, except it never fell.

>>162241975
She died early on and didn't accomplish much. Her death further lowered the morale, instead of making her a martyr and draw strenght from her.

Damn cuckfrogs.

>>162242150
>died
>didn't become an immortal cocksleeve
What a faggot.

>>162241253
>nicaea
REEEE FUCK OFF VENETIANS

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r8 my borders
spent a lot of time on this

>>162242384
>la plata

>>162242384
>new zealand

>>162242509
surely he meant to say "new south wales"

>>162242384
>giving Hawaii to Japan
>giving Constantinople to Russia and not the Greeks
>The motherfucking Land of Lost Souls

>>162242384
>russian gibraltar
>russian suez
>falkgrad
>koreya

>>162242384
>all those orange islands
I-is that the Netherlands?

>>162242384
>muh non-blocked warm water port

>>162242384
>that germany
>that yugoslavia
>that uk
>mesopotamia
>and russia controlling every single major costal point in the mediterranean + india
>republic of china not ming dinasty
>new zealand owning australia
>indonesia and malasia being real with the empire of japan still existing
>that peru
>that united provinces of la plata
>not empire brazil
>yucatan being free
>federal republic of central america
>that little shit free state in the middle of borelian federation
>the borealian federation itself
>republic of alaska
>russia owning falkgrad
>rhodesia being that small
>boer republics????
>land of lost souls?????
i know you re memeing me but your map is shit tier rusky

>>162242384
>russian india
WHY

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>Never played Aragon before
>Decide to try the aragon into byzantium strat for giggles
>France becomes pope and declares crusade on kebab
>I declare to reclaim byzantine cores and all my vassals/allies join me
>Kebab removal begins

Is Aragon the easiest nation in this already easy game? They get literal god rulers, a powerful navy, decent army, and a fairly strong vassal.

>>162242773
oh i also forgot
>africa being free and not colonized
and why the fuck do you have a fetish for republics?
>>162242783
its an alternate reality where russia had more colonies compared to everyone else, aka power trip from some autistic rusky

>>162242773
I am not Russian.

Refer to the bottom right of the image for more information.

Thank you.

>>162242870
I got fucked over once as Aragon Kebab-Remover when Ottomans allied with Persia so its not always perfect.

>>162240328
Robmod

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I guess building hospitals does pay off

>>162240910
they should've stopped making DLC for eu4 2 years ago

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>>162243009

>tfw my capital had 95% disease resistance
>plague still got in

>>162228287
W&B

>>162243009
I build level 1 in every province, max in my capital, and sometimes upgrade to level 2 if I'm rich or it's a chokehold province (to try and protect multiple provinces from getting infected). It seems to work for me, rarely do I get more than 2/3s of the country infected and almost never the capital.

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>>162242443
>>162242509
>>162242592
>>162242617
>>162242714
>>162242753
>>162242773
>>162242783
>>162242583
newfags

>>162243193
b8

>>162242384
Where is Old Zealand?

>>162243037
Every time they release a new DLC for EU4 I look at the feature list and think "Yeah those are some really cool ideas"
Then I remember all the bad aspects of EU4 namely mana and lack of state/country level management, and I get a bit angry that the game will never be good. Like with Condottieri I could totally get behind the idea of playing a small brandenburg and just renting out space marine mercenaries, but not painting the map is so boring because you're just sitting on speed 5 between jobs clicking upgrades.

At least with vicky you an actual economy to develop and states to industrialize.

>>162243159
I just expand the one in the capital and forget about the rest

>>162243279
The Netherlands. It takes literally two seconds to google this.

>>162243415
They're only 100 gold for level 1, so building one in every province isn't really a huge imposition.

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>>162243438
>They're only 100 gold for level 1
Yeah, but level 1 doesn't do much

>>162243438
>The Netherlands
I thought New Zealand was British.

>>162243854
It is.

Zealand (or Zeeland) is still a place in the Netherlands, though.

>>162242384
There is so much bait in this, but one thing is troubling me.

>Land of Lost Souls

The fuck is that shit?

Does anyone know why my pops are leaving the capital in the thousands even though I've provided them with all the work they need

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>>162242384
Also, what the fuck is this meme cunt?

>>162244054
Refer to
>>162243193
For further explanation on the significance of the acronym, please inquire.

>>162244054
The Noble and Just First Theocratic Orthodox and Great Fascist Empire of the Honest and Faithful People's Democratic Republic of the Most Serene National Socialist City State of the Nemorian Patriarchal Federation.

>>162244054
its nemoria i belive its an ancient shitposting meme that this place used to have,

>>162243804
Mass level 1s seems to delay or even inhibit the effects of most illnesses, major epidemics are different.

Give me a based unciv that ain't Persia or Japan.

>>162244138
>Nemorian
explain

>>162244269
China
Prevent the degenerates from taking over
Westernize and crumble the world economy
Encourage fascists or something for memes

>HELP
>E
>l
>P
Playing as GB, in eu4 should I make the Iroquois a protectorate or keep the alliance, I'm undecided on which is better

>>162244270
Nemoria

>>162244306
How fast does it westernize?

>>162244332
>Nemoria
explain

>>162244364
Slowly and unsteadily

>>162244269
Ethiopia

Or one of the little Ethiopias if you play HPM

>>162244370
Nemoria is a genus of Emerald moths in the family Geometridae.

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>>162244270
Well, from what I can tell Nemoria is set up in that place on the US-Canada border that's not technically claimed by either or something? The name is a mystery to me, though.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_of_the_Woods

The name might be a play on that or something, idk.

could also be gibberish like
>>162243193

>>162244440
It's a meme.

>>162244420
>Nemoria is a genus of Emerald moths in the family Geometridae.

What the fuck do moths have anything to do with this, though?

>>162244312
>HEIP

if you gotta meme do it properly

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>>162242384
>Falkgrad

>>162244312
Conquer them and add them to Thirteen Colonies and/or Newfoundland

how do i liq?

>>162244584
But they lead a confederation and it's gonna be hella slow t annex them

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tips/goals?

P.S. How do I get rid of the shitty fold effect in the ocean with MMMM? It didn't used to look like this when I had it installed before.

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>>162245881
What's with these nigger pops? I thought Guyana was mostly East Indians. In fact, that was what got me interested in the country to begin with.
Get on it, HPM.

>>162246164
Why would a country in south america have east indians pops?

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>>162246329
indentured servants

>>162246439
ok, but i don't think there were that many in 1836

>>162244312
>HELP
>E
>L
>P

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fun

>>162246481
Fair enough. I still think primary culture should be something different though.

>>162247002
is that event from hpm?

>>162247565
Yes, it's pretty new. It usually has positive effects.

So what's the best way to get your territories back as Greece in HPM, it seems like crisises have been extremely toned down and Russia almost never spheres you

>>162247565
No, it isn't. The minister dice roll system was from NNM/PDM but I removed it. It never was a part of the mod.

>>162247002
>>162247795
>>162247565
Isn't that stolen from Robmod?

>>162248106
2 greek runs so far, both times russia sphered me.
when the crimean war happens, if russia thoroughly BTFO of Ottomans, you have a decent chance of soloing them. maybe invite serbia, bulgaria or romania if they exist.
5 years after the crimea war the berlin congress will happen, in which you have a decent chance of acquiring thessaly peacefully. then the crises are unlocked.

in my case, the first crisis to happen was on my favor and it gave me macedonia.

>>162248440
I'm literally playing HPM though.

Is Napoleons Legacy for Vicky 2 really well done (like Kaiserreich) or is just another shitty alt history mod?

>>162249182
He's just shitposting.

>>162248440
It was definitely in one of the older versions though

t. HPM enthusiast

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>>162249414
Nope, never was. I removed it when integrating NNM.


>>162249182
The localisation for it doesn't even exist. Maybe HPMNNM or another minimod adds it back but it isn't in vanilla HPM.

>>162233049
Don't forget the lurking Egyptian lad

>>162242384
Russia doesn't own the Panama Canal. 8/10

>>162231457
>Hey kid, wanna /ss/?

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Sometimes I love this game. This is the most people I think ive ever killed in a single day in a grand strat. 1.72Million men dead with the rest soon to be mopped up along with 4100 tanks. Liberating Europe from the Kaiser is hard work but china will bring freedom and democracy to Europe.

>>162242384
People should swap Yemen and Oman's names, I doubt anyone would notice

>>162250735
>well you don't get a say anyway
>off with the pants

I should really get myseld to start working on the Eternal loli mod for CK2.
Anyone knows how to make a character's age fixed, so that they don't age past a certain number?

>>162250749
>yfw they're already swapped

>>162250850
I'm not sure that's possible. If you can trigger console commands, try doing age [char id] -1 over and over every year the person is over your intended age.
You can also do something like making a "hat" in the portraits with a very special condition (ai = no might be one for only players, or char_flag = loli), but pasting over the child portrait into the respective hat slot, such that the portrait is always obscured by the child portrait and they LOOK like a loli because the child portrait is opaque.. This doesn't stop menopause though.

>>162249832
Why was it removed?

>>162251050
I didn't like it. It needed a lot of events and it was somewhat convoluted for no gain, basically a dice roll with minor bonuses.

>>162249832
>Maybe HPMNNM
That must be it. I had thought it only added extra countries.

Are there any little new world nations that you made fun with events and decisions? Guyana is like watching paint dry.

>>162251050
It's pretty annoying.

>>162250746

>sprites
>attacking based Willy

Disgusting

>>162251241
Willies been dead for over 20 years.

>>162242384
dude what the fuck

>>162243375
Let's hope Meiou and taxes 20 is not awful.

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>>162251215
Hello, HPM. I recently tried to roleplay a game as Russia, because let's face it, there's only so many times you can blob into Prussia. and was disheartened to find out it's pretty much impossible. I played as Alexander II and reformed the state, as he did, then when it came to Alexander III I simply couldn't, the revolts were every damn year, if not more frequently.

I'd greatly appreciate if you could add a Okhrana modifier, that increases suppression points, reduces militancy and generally acts as it did in real life, keeping the peace. In real life Alexander III introduced them due to the assasination of Alexander II and they basically make Russia stable until Nicky shot on protestors in 1905.

>>162248730
In my run Russia let UK then France sphere me while pussying out of the crimean war after a few months

>>162251002
I will try that, thank you. I already thought of using custom portrait, so I might go with that second option if the first doesn't work.

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Reasons EU4 is the thinking man's gsg
>Better map than Liquoria
>Economy based around trade and resources rather than just liquor
>better combat system
>games last 4 times as long
>religion actually matterss
>Colonial nations
>great sountrack
>awesome regular downloadable content
>multiplayer is hella epic
>inflation is modelled in game (unlike liquoria)
>no Grandi death squads taking you away at night for not using an overrated mod
>achievements
>genocide is built into the game
>dynamic province names
>women are better represented

Remind me again why Liquoria is so popular please?

Inb4 Grandi Youth and Jannyssaries.

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>>162253163
This anon was never seen again after he made this post. Witnesses reported seeing a brazillian professor sipping liquor and eating cement outside his home.

The case continues.

>>162253163
Pretty much spot on. IT's time to admit that vicky is for reddit. I'm sorry,but it's true. This post really made me think...

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So yeah, game is interesting.

>>162251240
>I had thought it only added extra countries.
Me too.

>Are there any little new world nations that you made fun with events and decisions?
Paraguay maybe, but you gotta get some sea access to stay relevant.

>>162252478
That's what the Autocracy NV is for, though it was generating some people were complaining it was too hard to pass reforms with it. I will see what I can do about it.

Just as a matter of curiosity though, did you do this in the latest (3.6.1) version or an older one?

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Total War Attila;

I like to start small, build up from a corner, and then start building an empire.

I found out that Huns are not the best way to do this. Who should I play as?

>>162253330
0.3.6.1.
Revolts out the arse, autocracy NV did shit all.

>>162253328
At least not turks

>>162253330
Hey "Aitch" "pee" "em".

I'd like it if a French sphered/puppeted Canada could make French Canadian primary and Anglo Canadian accepted, rather than the other way around, so all the immigrants learn French. Just as a little flavour touch.

Also, see >>161836652

>>162253516
I'm impressed by how unpleasant the word "Aitch" is.

>>162253431
I will take a look, thanks.

>>162253572
It's the legitimate pronunciation of "H".

>>162253639
It's pronouced "ha".

>>162253330
>Paraguay
I might check it out.
What about an island like Cuba, Haiti or Dominican Republic? Do they have any cool stuff?

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>>162253435
I guess

>>162253797
>steamcordplaza declare war on janitor
Top fucking kek, how can three groups be this retarded?

>>162228287
absolutely white

>>162253412
Franks

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>>162253597

>>162253836
I'm literally retarded fuck my face, where's the button to see those ranking?

>>162254176
BASED
A
S
E
D

>>162253163
>great sountrack
I never fail to cringe when a Sabaton song starts playing.

>>162254108
kek

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>>162228276
Anyone fancy a game of East vs West?

>>162254432
F

>>162252478
if you constitutionalize you'll never get any trouble at all, you'll be able to choose your head party while keeping the plebs happy

>>162254494
>constitutional monarchy russia
>>>/r/paradoxplaza

>>162254432
FUCK
YOU

>>162254572
>not wanting nicky to survive and take more banterous photos

>>162254572
But you're 100% in control and there nothing those nerds can do to stop you

>>162245881
You want to look for some overlay in the map/gfx folder, erase all the folds and save it as a blank file.

>>162254379
You asked for it: 192.168.0.1

>>162254835
The local IP is actually 192.168.0.106 for some unholy reason.

HPM, when you're landlocked and share a border with a substate, you can't justify an acquire substate CB against its master (so Paraguay can't get Entre Rios before the Chaco is colonized, for example).
Also, I might be wrong in this but, if you conquer Entre Rios before the Argentine civil war begins, do they stay as a confederation for the rest of the game? And can Paraguay claim Alto Paraguay if you refuse to let Solano into office?
And one last thing: Paraguayan War flavour when

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The test for the new building-up period for the ACW worked well enough, the only problem is that the CSA spawned with 0 brigades and zero possible brigades because the AI neglected soldiers in the south. At least building a navy was a success for the CSA.

>>162253747
I don't think so. Haiti has 5-6 events but that's about it.

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Welp ive finished my longest game of KR ever. I started as the AoG became the republic and unified china. Needing to take back my German held cores let to a WW3 of sorts between just me and Korea against a Germany who controlled most of the old world. The war was started in 1949 and ended in 1946 7 years to the 2 of WW2. I started by pushing the Germans out of mainland china which took about 6 months then I had to take Indonesia which proved to take much longer due to the jungle terrain and stubborn german attempts at retakes. The conquest of mainland africa was quite easy due to the inferiority of the african equipment and the lack of German support the conquest of the largest continent on earth took a little over 6 months.

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>finally achieved islamig gommunism

>>162255349
How did you fuck so many things up after westernization

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>>162255345
I moved on to taking England first it required 400k men and 4 nukes to break the syndies hold of thier island but I took it and broke it up as to punish them for thier use of A bomb against other states. After them I invaded spain using it as the rock on which to break the germans. Through the use of the Pyrenees 1.6 million men and 6 nukes I pushed the germans into France. From there it was a slow slog towards the Rhine/Paris it also took another 2 nukes. After crossing the Rhine it was more akin to an occupation then a war at that point. Broke up Europe as to punish nations that used terror against their own and foreign people.

>>162255438
Taxes and tariffs on full to make people angry enough to revolt. Game's pretty much worthless.

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>>162255158
While I think of a solution for that I decided to do something about the "New Britain and New Ireland" being that way from the start. Now the islands start with native names and the owner can change its name. I'm doing all common GPs, common SPs and most common colonizers but the countries that aren't included in the decision to rename it will have the islands with their native names.

>>162255097
The CB is checking if the substate overlord neighbours you, but he doesn't so that problem occurs. I will lift that restriction.

>if you conquer Entre Rios before the Argentine civil war begins, do they stay as a confederation for the rest of the game?
Depends on a few things but there's a few cleanup events. If there's no more substates they flip to Argentina.

> And can Paraguay claim Alto Paraguay if you refuse to let Solano into office?
No, which is something I need to correct. I will change the event to be a decision that doesn't depend on him.

>And one last thing: Paraguayan War flavour when
That will require some event-based peace compromises so it might take a while until I get to that.

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>>162255516
The Kaiser hides in the Suez out of my grasp outside of an invasion of Egypt but I have little interest in going on as it would be far to easy. The losses caused by WW3 came to be about 4million lost by the Germans and 3million by me with an addition 5 million or so assorted mittleeuropa soldiers dead. A few things of note is that Najing has 47 IC more then quite a few nations and that if a nation isnt self sufficient then it cant support its industry as China consumes most of the worlds natural resources. There are a few more nations ide like to liberate but as before it would be easy.

>>162255662
>>162255158
And 4chanX is eating my trip again.

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>>162255516
Kinda slow there laddie.

>>162255762
I went by sea and spent alot of time just being an autist about it such as by building industry in Africa and what not. I have a similar save were I did the same thing but through russia but 48 or so.

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>>162255938
You want to go full autist?
Do this.

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>>162256058
My version of autism is building infra to 100 in every province and building not OP fleets. I do have a few pics similar to that but I like to take it slow and enjoy the industry.

>>162253330
>That's what the Autocracy NV is for, though it was generating some people were complaining it was too hard to pass reforms with it. I will see what I can do about it.

Is this why it is almost impossible to pass enough reforms as the Ottoman Empire to enable the decisions that allows for Bedouins, Albanians and Bulgarians (?) to become accepted pops?

Playing the Ottoman Empire is honestly worse than Spain right now.

>>162256319
Muslim pops are more inclined to conservative and reactionary ideologies, that's the reason.

>>162256319
You mean the Tanzimat reforms, that gives you Bosniaks, Albanians, Mashriq and Misri as accepted cultures?
You can't get Bulgarians and Bedouins IIRC.

HPM multi again when lads? I had to leave early on ( I waa gross Carlisium Spanium)

Who's up for eu4 multiplayer at like 6:30 GMT anyone got a mega link to the last 3 dlc's and an activator

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>>162256738
I have the whole day today to be desu
t. Egypt pro

>>162257213
Did you win against the ottomans?

>>162256529
Is this a thing in HPM? How do you get it?

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What the fuck is happening?

>>162257319
Yes, but only with France's help.

>>162257397
ACW. In your timeline, the northern states seceded.

>>162256738
who was all the in last MP games?

you should ban all the shitters

>>162256452
HPM you know that good old Gurka random event?
I think text bubbles switched for the longest time.

>>162255754
pls answer >>162253516

>>162256738
Why didn't you join my side, Spainicum?
France didn't even appreciate your assistance... i would treat you good.

>>162256529
That's the one.

>>162257386
By intentionally losing a war and getting fully occupied to the extent that your militancy skyrockets, allowing you to pass the required reforms.

V2's mechanics can seem a little backward at times. To enable liberal reforms you have to be as authoritarian as possible to raise militancy.

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ruh-roh

>>162257819
Was that supposed to be the Scooby doo sound?
10/10

>>162257819
Change to Agnatic-Cognatic fast, she's going to murder literally everyone.

>>162257758
In my game all you need for the Tanzimat reforms are 3 mil, 4 con and Nationalism and imperialism. They also don't do any of the cool stuff >>162256529 talks about.

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New York is a slave state now.

>>162258574
Just like real life where the jews and the billionaries like trump are your masters.

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>>162258574
Yeah, they have no actual slaves though.

>>162258225
There is second decision the can take place. Something along the lines of "hatt i humayun" i think it is called. This reform gives all the accepted cultures mentioned before.

>>162258641
they are better than us because they have money, I think this is fine as a libertarian.

>>162258724
*that can take place

>>162258724
neat

>>162231050

Oh yeah, let's bring in China which had no hereditary nobility at the time period Crusader Kings 2 covers, just an imperial bureaucracy that constantly moved officials around so they couldn't build up regional power bases. It doesn't fit the mechanics, you could only really play the emperor of China with the current game mechanics. Really, other than Europe and Japan, feudal mechanics are completely ahistorical.

>>162259680
You'd only have to make it feudal with some sort of mandate of heaven modifier and people would eat that shit up without hesitation

>>162236210
>Jains despise the act of committing violence

To be alive is to be in a state of war with all other forms of life, at least on some level, and so Jain starve themselves to death and die of easily treatable infections, and that's why it's a retarded creed.