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BIG DOG IS OFF THE LEASH edition

>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Vikings-as-first-pick-drafting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20379596/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-december-2-2016-ghost-protocol-12-1-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20379591/heroes-of-the-storm-ptr-patch-notes-december-5-12-5-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en
http://www.heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

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>>161951976
actual previous thread, my bad
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1st for Brightwing
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>tfw i want to make hots videos but i'm shit at the game and I can't even meme properly in-game
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RIP dbro
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>catch somebody out
>auriel knocks them to safety
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1-3 tychus to 10
4-6 raynor to 10
7-9 lunara to 10
0 uninstall
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Is /hotsg/ ready for the Dehaka domination?
Global, wave clear, ice block in basic kit, (dis)engage, longest non heroic stun in the game and sustain out of his ass.
Better get your first ban ready because ETC will look like a choir boy compared to this guy.
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>>162218629
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>>162218737
not enough to solo tank
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>>162218737
Funny since he's already pretty good. Now they've made him S-tier.
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>>162218737
aoe 15% vauln too for the duration of his dark swarm, and he will be taking 40% less damage while that is up as well.

I don't know why they buffed him so much, he was good already.
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>>162218629
0
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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How does ability power buffs work?
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>>162219249
It buffs the damage of any ability. Anything on the Q, W, E, and R.
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>>162219318
what about Li ming cannoneer?
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>>162219379
Considering it converts it to Ability damage, I imagine it would work on that as well. Good question, nobody's ever talked about that before. Probably because there were no ability power buffs in the game until somewhat recently.

But yeah, it states that it turns it into ability damage, so I think it's pretty much assumed it would work on that.
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>>162219318
Well it says I have a permanent buff but when I hover my mouse over the skill the damage shows the same
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>>162220135
Tried chromie in the ptr. At level 21 it said my damage was 945 on the skill but with the 5% buff from her new talent it was hitting for 996. Some reason your skills don't update the text to show your damage buffs
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>tfw get a game with no healer

wowie
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>>162222695
>needing a healer
git gud
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Classic Xul when?
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>>162222695
won towers of doom no healer
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>>162223601
>those tychus talents

LMAO
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>>162223601
>losing to a gazlowe team without a support

tilted off the face of the planet

>those talents

yo hol up
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>>162219318
Pretty sure it also increases healing
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>>162223807
>>162223878
The thrall was being a little bitch last pick "i dont heal" only tanks leoric arthas

>tfw the whole team came in the game to lose
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I just don't know what went wrong.
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>>162226680
your low damage :v
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>>162226680
Gul'dan was apparently really tasty.
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>>162226680
Blizzard Matchmaking (tm) enforcing your 50% winrate.
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>>162226739
Not much worse than the Xul's who was never with the enemy team.
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who counters Ragnaros?
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>>162226680
>xul, sylvanas AND kael'thas
>on tomb
>having ANY hope of not drowning in catapults and spiders
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>>162226857
Probably Leoric and Tychus or other heroes who can do good damage to high-health heroes.
Kiters like Tracer or Valla or Lunara could stay away and alive if they can dodge his hammer.
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>>162226739
His damage is low but that chromie damage is just shameful
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>>162227454
The chromie was AI for half the game, oddly enough, Alarak and Guldan weren't.
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Reminder that if you look up the dictionary definition of "anti-fun garbage", you'll find a picture of Chromie. You get to play "dodge the skillshot or be instagibbed while she has zero risk of dying" all game long, and she's still getting more fucking buffs.
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>>162227975
Pick a hero that counters her. Play tracer or illadin and jump past the front line and fuck her shit up. Fuck even Thrall, Lunara, and butcher will fuck her shit up
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>>162228194
Can't do that in QM.
Even if you play a draft mode and draft a diver, they will only run Chromie with heavy peel so you will never ever ever ever ever ever reach her, and if you do, you get stasis'd or 80% slowed and she fucks off.

Making an even more cancerous version of Hammer was a mistake.
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>>162226981
i....sense............dearth......................within this palce.........
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>>162228379
Git gud
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>>162227975
4chan, the only place on the internet where people bitch about chromie or think varian is op lol
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>>162228379
Chromie is only a B+ tier hero
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>>162228702
That doesn't not make her anti-fun garbage, Anon.
It doesn't need to be OP to be fucking annoying and fun-sucking to the max.

Another example is TLV, the worst design in the game by far.
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>>162228702
>valla
>better than raynor
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>>162228491
healing magic......quaint......but useful
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>>162228585

Well, she is pretty unforging to play against. You can eat a Kael'thas Q, but not a Chromer Q/W.
Pleasantly surprised her damage turned out to be as high as it is. Tempted to try playing her again.

>also tfw no winterveil helper elf chromie skin

>>162228702
>one third of roster in S tier
>varian included
>especially twin blades varian

hah
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>>162229212
fury varian is the biggest bronze trap in game.
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>>162228702
The only heroes on that list I enjoy consistently playing are Malf and Varian. Dear god, why are all the good heroes the most boring fucking things.
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>>162228702
>sylvanas
>two powerful ultimate
>two
HAHAHAAHAHHAAHHAAH! WHO WROTE THIS?
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>>162228702
>zeratul S tier
>on solo queue tier list

who wrote this
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>>162229382
Looks like tentonhammer
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>>162229282
It got me to Masters before the nerf.
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>been qued for rank for 8 mins now
I just want to try ranked and get my placement
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>get first kill of game
>get winning kill of game

nova brawl can be pretty okay
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>first game playing ranked
>my team won with us being 5 levels above them
I'm now afraid I'll get a shitty group after this good of a game
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>>162231897
>save teammate with holo
>kill someone with regular attacks
>sniping still targets that think they're clever
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HELL

ITS
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>li li will eventually grow up to be a lard ass like all other pandaren
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>>162234918

>we still don't have an adult female pandaren
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>>162235015
>tfw furries will never be burned alive
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>>162235015
>play qm
>get put on a team with diablo, azmo, tassadar zarya and me as uther
>basically no damage
>vs a premade 5 man party that's hand crafted to work together well having 2 assassins a specialist/assassin a tank and a support/assassin
>lose horribly
Why is this shit allowed
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>>162235491
truly the worst feel
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Play HL, get a Valla, Valla gets Strafe vs enemy team comp composed of Kerrigan, Uther, Rehgar, Arthas and Azmodan.

Everyone screaming like mad children (or man children) at Valla for her ulti pick.

Valla going solo deep on Azmodan, only to die a few seconds later from a timed gank. This is repeated 5 times and we lose the game on Sky Temple in 15 minutes.

So this is the power......of Solo Queue HL?

Next patch is going to be the final death of this game as we speak, once people run out of their free stimpacks and goodies, every sane player out there who wants to improve will quickly realize that this isn't the game where you can do that.
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When is Strafe ever a good pick? It does 0 damage and that's all it does.
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>>162238845
>valla going deep for one of the beefiest heroes in the game

I don't think this has anything to do with solo queue, desu.
And yeah, curious to see how the changes to hl and tl will pan out.

game can't get any deader

right
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it's ten matches you need to play before getting assigned to bronze league isn't it
with the nexus challenge taking place is there a chance of me being able to pick li ming and be a shitter with her before anyone else can do so
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Cute
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What's to expect after Ragnaros?
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>>162238905
Strafe is longer range than your autos, lets you stay mobile while dealing aoe damage, and gives you another dps option while blinded. Most importantly, though, it pauses your stacks, so if you get zoned off a teamfight for a bit or if autoing is too dangerous, you can strafe and keep your 10 stacks. Strafe doesn't do great single target damage, but zero stacks valla does even less.

It's mostly a preference/situational thing, though. Both the ults are good.
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>>162239103
Not sure what the lowest is, but I imagine it's somewhere in Bronze. Has anybody placed B5? Just curious here.

>>162239207
Some troll, probably. Zz.
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>>162238958

Everyone, including myself, were asking politely at first as to why she picked Strafe vs an enemy team that can lock her down and just cancel the ult.

>the response wasn't "all muted noobs"

This has VERY much to do with solo queue, desu. Whatever happens, this game needs some voice chat, since Blizzard will never, ever, ever, acknowledge that some of their designs (yes, I know it is the developer's fault here, not the player's, but!) are flawed and since 10% of the game's population follow the so called pro scene who make up the strategies to win games and since Blizzard decides to nerf every one of these strategies into the ground with their "everything is viable" mentality, then you'll end up with a game stuck in a design balancing loop that will never cease, making it a frustrating experience not only for the player, but for the developers themselves.

I don't know what the fuck they were thinking when they came up with this "pick a talent, pick an ulti" system, because it's fucking stupid and it just gives you the illusion of "viable" builds.

Let's face it, how many heroes out of the complete roster have more than one strong build with the off chance at having another two viable builds in case of certain situations. Not many I'd say.
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>>162239304
Isn't Uther the only one capable of reliably shutting down her Strafe, though?
>game needs voice chat
Ehh. Not sure about this one.
>viability
Most things below masters are at least somewhat viable.
>"pick a talent, pick an ulti" system
Hit or miss. Some Heroes have it pretty rough, whereas others are a bit flexible. I don't love it, but it isn't the first thing I'd heavily criticize about the game.
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>>162239596

Kerrigan was playing out of her mind as well.

The game needs more staff to make it better, I agree. That would be the main thing, but at this point it is safe to say that Blizzard has relegated this to "f2p garbage that's bringing us some cash here and there".

Funnily enough, they are shelling good prize money on tournaments for this shit instead of using that budget to get more staff, push more updates and refine the game even more.

E-sports is a disease I tell you.
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>>162239951

Well, if Kerrigan lands her stun it doesn't really matter which Heroic Valla took.

That might help. Doesn't feel like the game'll ever really "take off", though. Never losing that "babbys first moba" hasn't helped, and they've done the WoW thing of only coming out with barely enough content to keep people hopeful.

Yeah. I'm not sure why they're trying to build a compeitive scene in a game that isn't really being played.

>guy first picks zeratul and says it's what the pros do

Thankfully it was just smurf placements and I was able to dodge. Which is, like, -600 points on a ranked account, whereas losing is, like, -200.

>the punishment for wasting a few seconds/minutes of everybodies time isn't as severe as picking abathur and pressing Q on somebody then afking
>alternatively hovering support then switching to murky at the last second and say you're going march, then hoping somebody else dodges
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>>162240443

>punishment for dodging is triple that of losing/afking

Meant this. I'm tired.
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>>162239207
Zul'jin is all we can be sure of, chances are Valeera with be the second hero for the set. Blizzcon Leaks have stated both Kel'thuzad and Reinhardt are also somewhere in the works, and the axolotl leak still leaves Aidan somewhere close to done.
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>>162240584
Aidan will likely be in January for the Diablo anniversary. So I'm thinking it might be him after Rag.
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>>162241184
Ahahahahahaha nice one
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>>162240584
as someone has already pointed out, ax's leaks were mostly about wow characters (and some diablo ones)
probably we wont get so many wow heroes in a row so expect some starcraft/ow guys (at least, I hope so, where is my goddamn gui montag)
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Next hero should be around New Year's. Right?

I think we all know who it is.
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>>162240443

I'm not getting murky's and abathur's in my league, I now have to deal with the last bastion of cancer which are bad plays & talent picks.

I feel sorry for you dawg :(

Back to my rant though! What the fuck is up with this insane push for e-sports nowadays?

It's the biggest money sink a developer can have and most of the time, it isn't even feasible to build an e-sports scene for a game that's not only competing with better, more established peers, but a game that's as lightweight as you can possibly imagine.

I can only dream what great features and improvements that money could've done for the game.
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Who do I buy next?

Sylvanas
Chen
Dehaka
Varian
Ragnaros
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>>162242572
Ragnaros on day one with real money
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>>162242572
sylvanas gets a price reduction next week.
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>everyone early picks assassins/specialists
>force late picks into tank/healer instead of being able to react to enemy picks
I hate the moba community.
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>>162243241
>tfw tank and support main

It's nice to always get what I want except when I get forced onto ranged assassin and embarrass myself.
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>>162243241
Boo hoo, at least it isn't fucking quick match

>Entire team has actually legitimately no crowd control
>Against the Butcher
>I shut him down for 99.9% of the game with blinds as Auriel but the one time I die (lol 70 second respawn) he just walks at everybody else on my team and kills them because our comp is garbage
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Got Dehaka and Vikings to 10 boys, didn't buy Dehakas' master skin though I really don't like it.
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>>162245517
You made the right choice, it's one of the worst ones and you can barely even notice it
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Reading on the new seasons MMR, can anyone tell me if my MMR is getting completely erased if I haven't played anything ranked in S2?

Or will it take my QM mmr into account after I do my s3 placements.

Asking this because missing out on one ranked seasons definitely seems worth it if it finally allows me to start from scratch.

Thanks
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>>162245517
Imagine being this guy
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>>162242664
in bundle with cute skin
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>shaman always has both hes before he draws 15 cards
I'm starting to get mad.
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>>162246978
Wrong door, pal. The gay orc procession is two doors down the hallway.
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Why are qm games where your team consists of 4 supports and an afk gul dan against a team with proper roles the most fun you will ever have? Uther the tank, Medivh the dps, lili the healer/dps and tass the specialist. Actually winning like that is the greatest thing ever
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When Will hots finally make some changes to roles. Got in a match yesterday where our support was a tassadar and enemy team got a kharazim and malf. This game really needs to make a difference between healer and support.
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>>162247530
>Quick Match
If you wanted balanced comps then don't play the shitter mode.
Tass is getting rework probably Early January, for all it helps you cope. He's getting Life Leach from shields baseline, but the talent that makes shields last forever is GTFO (which is good, since that's the entire point of shields that they're burst protection). But he's also getting many dmg talents, which makes it fair to assume they want him to be sorta like Kharazim and Tyrande, able to build support but equally as viable when built full dmg.
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>playing Arthas on EU
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>>162248652
>but the talent that makes shields last forever is GTFO
>like Tyrande

aaand another "support" that's getting dropped from hard tier to worthless garbage.
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>>162248652
Sound good. But I would Just like to see a support tab for heroes like medivh, tass and tyrande. But that is pretty much confirmed with the coming of varian and his multiclass
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>>162241184
Don't you mouthbreathers have enough diablo heroes already?
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can this game be kill already I don't need ads for this shit when I'm browsing real moba content. literally a shit stain on the genre's pants.
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>>162250730
more like the only clean spot on this genre's pants
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>>162246303
It's just level 10, easy to get
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even dustin balder severed his ties with this game

deader than dead
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So is haunted mines coming back or is it gonna be just a brawl? that would be pretty lame
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>>162254897
It's coming back as a map, basically BoE v2, the only thing which is still the same is the objective itself.
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What're the best and worst master skins? I personally love Gul'Dans master skin and hate Tracers. It makes her look like a sjitty Dr Ngine.
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>mfw playing the ptr diablo
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>>162246043
Anyone?
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>>162246043
You can't start fresh, you got in there because of your QM mmr in the first place, unless it's significantly greater you'll probably place wherever you were.
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french bronzie here I just don't know what to do shall i come back to this trash because I mostly miss the shy nerds from /vg/ I used to play with or just continue drinking myself to death.
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>>162261257
i'll play with you, get on vg channel on EU
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>>162261257
/vg/ meme team has long since been disbanded
stop drinking yourself to death tho, that's what hobos are supposed to do
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>>162261398
No disrespect here senpai, but I'm a little dry right now need to get myself fired up on booze. besides all the good peepz on EU log in around 10 PM CEST
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>>162239207
Someone not from warcraft
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Ana Amari
Ranged Support

Abilities-
Snipe: DoT if it hits an enemy hero, HoT if it hits an ally. Passes through minions, structures, and monsters.
Biotic Grenade: AoE heal for allies. Deals damage to enemies and decreases healing efficiency for a short duration.
Sleep Dart: Stuns enemy hero for a short duration, or until they are attacked.

Nano Boost: Apply a buff on ally hero granting increased movement speed and damage resistance. Available at level 1. Gain charge by healing ally heroes, and a small amount from enemy takedowns.

Talent Ideas

Snipe:

CD Reduction if Snipe hits an ally Hero
or
Quest- After hitting 25 enemies with Snipe, reduce its CD by 1 second and increase its DoT by 25%

Sleep Dart:

Quest- For every 1 second an enemy is stunned from Sleep Dart, reduce Sleep Dart's CD by 0.2. Maximimum reduction of 3 seconds. Upon reaching 3 seconds CD reduction, Sleep Dart gains a passive effect that causes friendly minions and structures to ignore sleeping targets.

Nano Boost:

Sustaining Boost- Boosted heroes have 100% healing regen

Experimental Nanomachines- Boosted heroes deal 30% more basic attack damage and 25% ability damage, but are vulnerable for the duration of the buff

Nano Cloud- Increases the amount of charge generated via healing. Boosted Heroes are shrouded in a cloud of nanomachines that deals constant damage to all enemies in its radius
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>>162262261
>an actually viable support

HA
nice one
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>>162262261
>adding in Ana
>when her ulti from OW is literally just a repackaged stim drone
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>go to starcraft gen
>no one is talking about the game at all

>go here and people talk about the game despite how bad they are

jesus... actual quality.
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>>162263548
are you complaining or praising?
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>queue for brawl
>400 seconds later
>still no game
>write this post
>get queue
Are they keylogging me?
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>tfw wanna try a bunch of other heroes who i haven't seen on rotation still
>tfw only 3k gold and already level 40 so no more welfare gold

i hurt my self to day
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>>162266054
Go get the level 5 hero welfare gold
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>>162266227
that's the only thing keeping me going

also you get 750 gold at level 9 i didn't know that but it takes a year
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>be leveling thrall to 5
>be playing braxis holdout
>YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
>beat the shit out of prepared man because I had my mana bar full
Thrall is fucking bullshit
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>>162266321
Taking a hero to 9 is half a day if you're serious about it with a stimpack.
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>>162266570
how will i play battlefield or workout anon
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Did varian block got changed? Now it feels like he blocks twice as more than before and its fucking obnoxious
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Why does it take like half a minute to get from the end of a game to queue again?
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ITS OVER BOYS! Press F!

Rats are leaving the sinking ship.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/12/08/heroes-of-the-storms-game-director-leaves-for-unknown-blizzard-project/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+venturebeat%2FSZYF+%28VentureBeat%29
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>>162266885
you're a whole 2 days late
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>>162266885
>>162267283

but Heroes is FUN

also maybe they're making Warcraft 4
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>Varian is the only warrior on the team but he goes DPS
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>>162267986
"DPS" What talents, retard.
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>>162268052
>varian goes for either of the two talent trees that aren't protection
>he does this as the only warrior on the team, effectively leaving his team without a tank
this is not hard to understand you spacker
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>>162268378
>Protection
You're the """spacker""" tbqh
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>>162267986
>the shitty multiclass puts him as the only warrior in a team
>he is forced to go prot despite not being comfortable and good at it
>you lose
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>varian
>tank
ebin meme :DDD
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>rather varian taunt someone with no effect than to instakill someone
HOW NEW @ VARIAN R U
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I wish that people would not use WoW terms in games like this. I understand the relation of Varian to WoW and warrior talents and whatnot, but people still apply the terms like dps and tank to fucking Dota or League (shit game btw)

and anybody who says MOBA is a cunt

it's disingenuous and ugly to bleed your shitty lingo into other games you lazy fuck cunts
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NEXT HERO AFTER RAGNAROS WILL BE MAIEV

HER LAUNCH SKIN IS A SUPERHERO SKIN

SHE'S AN ASSASSIN

I COULDN'T SEE HER TRAIT OR HER Q

SHE HAS SOME KIND OF MARK THING THAT CAUSES SMALL BLACK THINGIES TO HUNT DOWN HEROES AND A THROWING GLAIVE THAT BOUNCES BETWEEN ENEMIES THAT MAKES THE MARK EXPLODE

HER HEROICS ARE SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE AND A BLINK THAT DOES AOE DAMAGE WITH 4 CHARGES EVERY 6 SECONDS

CAP THIS
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>>162218629
boy
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>>162270901
already done
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>>162270516
But I was excited about Valeera.
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>>162270516
that was just a zeratul skin dude
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>>162263548
You should really visit WoW general.
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>>162269754
>developers specifically talk about how they were inspired by arms-protection-fury when making Varian's kit
>almost everyone who plays HotS is a blizzaboo who's played the majority of the games Blizzard has released
really makes you think
there's also nothing wrong with using terms such as MOBA, dps or tank as they're useful blanket terms with few substitutes
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>>162270516

>37 assassins in a row

Fucking blizzard I just want to heal
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>>162270516
>Maiev after Ragnaros, so January
>She actually will come (maybe) next year

I know that you're lying, but that is pretty much how I imagined her kit to be, if she ever were to actually come out. And I like it.

On a second thought; isn't it just her SC2 Arcade kit? As in, the one used in Hero Line Wars?
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>>162269754
Do you even know what those terms mean? No really, do you? Also they're not only applicable to WoW.
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>double tap R
>blade storm immediately cancels
>loses us the game
wow
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How is Taunt Varian? Should I go full Parry or still take Warbringer?
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>>162272945
>how is taunt varian
garbage
always take the stun on 4
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>>162270516
MORE WARCRAFT ASSASSINS

DIABLO C U C K S GET DUNKED ON
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>>162261257
you should have never left rylia

fuck you
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>>162245517
jesus christ
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>>162272880

Yeah, same with Sonya. Is there a way to disable it? I recall Chen had something similar with his D, but they ended up changing it.

Alternatively git gud, but just making sure I'm not missing out on some interface/keybinding setting.

>>162242564

Oh, haven't bumped into Abathur or Murky in a long while. Plenty of people who can't pilot the difficult heroes, though.

Again, not sure why they're pushing e-sports for this particular game. I can understand Overwatch, sort of. Hots just doesn't seem to have the playerbase, though.
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>>162276398
>Alternatively git gud
sick meme shitter I'm better than you'll ever be you fucking downie
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>>162277103

I was referring to myself.

Because I've fucked myself over spamming the key.

Not you, comrade.
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>Devil’s Due (Passive)
>New functionality:
>Regeneration Globes and Healing Fountains are 2% more effective for every stack of Black Soulstone

so he gains 120% of his health at 100 stacks by tapping the fountain?
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>>162277625
yes.
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>>162278475
oh baby it actually does
time to pick him up
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Question; if you can't see the enemy Chromie, do you have any indication that she's casting her W?

>dragon thing
>noise

Just curious.
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>>162279424
No, you have no indication of it.
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>Aidan

Literally who? The real and greatest injustice is the lack of mephisto
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>>162279557
Cool, thanks. I've just only played with the gnome recently, not against her.
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>>162274221
HAVE WE NOT

SUFFERED ENOUGH
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>>162270516
FINALLY
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Thanks for supporting our dying game scrubs.
No hero sale for you this time.
Happy New Year faggots.

P.S if you want to be a special snowflake you have to buy our shitty bundle
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>>162281721
>Special Snowflake
oh lord
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>>162281721
this post made me think
maybe it really is dying
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>>162282012
what a clever and witty joke
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>>162281721
>wowtoken probably won't be changed to offer battle.net currency until after this offer expires

fug

i want gingerbread zeebo
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>>162281721
>>162282012

Why the fuck isn't Special Snowflake portrait for lvling Abathur and Vikings to 10? Now every fuxker will think he's special. Fucking participation trophy generation!
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page 10?
have an exemplary display of Blizzard's AI pathfinding instead
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>diablofags think their game has iconic characters outside of the second and third games

Making me lol out loud over here
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why will I never get out of Bronze league v2?

why do I keep winning one and losing one

how much more do I have to heal people to win a game :(
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>>162285932
Butcher was in Diablo 1.
Of course, he's basically the Hogger of Diablo.
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>>162286178
You need Tychus to be more assassin, less specialist and actually do some damage to the enemy team and Varian to stop fucking feeding.
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>>162286178
shit team comp?
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>>162285721
anub bot does the same, like every fuking time he wants to attack a gate/tower
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>>162286252
how to get these teamates tho

every 2nd game I get brain dead teamates like this and it is so goddamn frustrating. this is my third time being demoted back to Gold r2.

I dont know what I can do at this point. I'm trying to get to plat before the season ends but I can never seem to win more than 2 games in a row
>>
Jesus Christ tank Varian is fucking immortal
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>>162285721
kek I had the exact same fucking thing happen to me today. Also Muradin.
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>>162285932
>Cain isn't iconic
>Adria isn't iconic
>Griswold isn't iconic
>Wirt isn't iconic
>Butcher isn't iconic
>Leoric isn't iconic
>Lazarus isn't iconic
>playable classes aren't iconic
you baited me there, faggot
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>>162286512
Well, for one, stop playing for the weekends. At least stop playing ranked. Weekends are when all the shitters and their grandmothers log on and I usually go on an 8+ game skid with retards who can't handle their class.
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>>162286643
>>Cain isn't iconic
"Stay awhile and listen" is better known from D2.
>>Adria isn't iconic
Literally who? the witch
>>Griswold isn't iconic
Literally who? the blacksmith
>>Wirt isn't iconic
Only his leg is.
>>Butcher isn't iconic
See >>162286193
>>Leoric isn't iconic
No tangible presense until D3
>>Lazarus isn't iconic
Known better as his biblical namesake than Blizzrd's Priesty McEdgerton
>>playable classes aren't iconic
Literally most generic character class archetypes since the dawn of pen and paper RPGs.
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>>162286643
the whole franchise is an obscure mess, you got luck they even considered adding from it to the game,
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>this brawl
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>queue as 4 in brawl
>pub picks worst of the three in first round
>then picks chromie
>then picks chromie again over ming and kerri
>doesn't say a single word all game despite sucking shit every single time and not taking the hint that chromie is shit, chromie is shit if you're shit and chromie is not as good as ming or kerri
>talks right at the end when the game's over
>we carry his ass
Pubs suck dick.
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>>162247028
Fuck you.
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>played 1 year ago, got Jaina to 13
>Came back with friends for Genji skin, decided to do competitives
>check guides

>TenTonHammer: "Level 20: Arcane Power. Arcane Power allows for an even greater burst of damage while refunding mana."
>Icyveins: "Arcane Power is a truly useless talent."

who do i trust?
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>>162289730
Improved ice block is the answer
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>>162289730
Yourself after experimenting in a non-competitive environment and go with what feels better to you.
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>>162289730
>reading meme guide clickbait sites
How about you play the game, faggot?
Also, you take ice block.
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>>162289730
Arcane power is just a win more ability, iceblock is the standard pick since Jaina has no survivability before then
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>>162289991
This. I've not seen a single person/site/source that I agree 100% with. And this isn't just a "I use meme talents" I actually trust myself more than anything else with this sort of stuff. Also statistics are easily abused and mis-lead people a lot.
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>>162289730

Every talent has situational use and can be considered good or bad depending on the circumstances of any particular game you may find yourself in.

Not every talent is a safe pick, and guides tend to showcase "cookie cutter", "good enough of the time" builds.

If you want to be successful at any hero, you need to learn every talent, all of your counters, and when each talent would be good or bad in different scenarios when you may find yourself being countered or looking to fulfill a certain role that your team comp needs.

Hope that helps senpai
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>>162288694
lmfao, got me good
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>>162288694

>get smashed in first round
>able to pick lunara in the next round
>win
>pick lunara again
>landslide win in our favor
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Plat 3 to Masters in 1 week, only Rexxar. Check those HL stats, son; I carried every single game. Soon I'll be the only Rexxar autist to hit GM.
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>>162295234

Oh, nice. Congratulations. What got you playing Rexxar?

I never really tried him because I heard about a lot of bugs, and the pet micro seemed finicky/difficult.
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>>162295234
Congrats, anon! I never see a rexxar in rankeds.
What site are you using for the win%?
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>>162295234
You posted this on reddit. I saw it.

GTFO reddit plebe
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>>162296419

He's the most fun hero in the game and he's a god.

>>162296764

Hotslogs

>>162296845

Eat a dick faggot.
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>>162296845
> I saw it
So you are a reddit fag as well....
I'm speechless of your retardation
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>>162297191
Go farm some more reddit upboats with your rexxar guide you turboshitter.
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>>162296845
always did suspect reddit had invaded here with their meme formatting
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>>162295234
>that low winrate
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>>162294309
CUTE!
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Is he any good?
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>>162263548
Visit the wow private server general, it's amazing how they go through threads at lightning speed without talking about the game at all
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>>162300368
he's as good as your skills at sex
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>>162300368
he's next in line for a rework, don't bother using him for now
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>>162300368
Competent second support.
Used to be great in the beta.
Then they nerfed the shit out of him.
>>
Apparently, Naz got buffed a bunch? Any people playing him?
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>>162295234
20 Rexxar here, I was thinking of trying the same "Only X" thing next season too. Either Rexxar or Dehaka or something.
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>>162301552
>dehaka

He'll probably be a contested pick after the rework, unlike *probably* Rexxar.
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/5hf3ga/interest_in_a_comprehensive_rexxar_guide_from_a/

KEK

>no one but shitters playing ranked since it's end of season
>l-l-look rebbits, w-want a guide?
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Jaina is good for ___
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>>162302469
nothing
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>>162302469
cute
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>>162302469
Help.
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>>162302516
Sylvanas get out.
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>>162302469
public degradation
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>>162302469
hugs
>>
>everyone suddenly picks nova every qm game again

what happened
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>>162302765
This is the only correct answer.
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>>162303004
>people stopped playing nova

wot
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>>162303004
Nova was always a #1 pick in qm, but also we just had the nova brawl that ended so more people probably wanted to keep playing her
>>
>>162302469

Hello.
>>
Why is every single professional streamer in this game a shitter?

They're all atrociously bad.
>>
>it's a na >>>pro tries to tell you certain talents or heroes are bad episode
every time
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>>162295234
How much shit did you get when you flat out said "I'm going Rexxar no matter what." and how many dodgers did you get because of it?
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>>162304813
>goes over the build
>there's only 1 build for mura!
>koreans go a different build b-but it's a joke build!
>third win is must have, block is bad
>iron forged is better than skullcracker, you need it for synergy with your w!
>on 16 I always take give 'em the axe
No wonder they're so shit
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>>162286178
iktf senpai.

>finally get to rank 20 before "placements"
>stopped playing a while before palcements get released
>comeback few months after placements, do placements booted back to rank 35
>lose motivation to play
>come back few months into s1 le spooky sleleton man carries me through placements los 2 games gold 5
>come back for s2 4 loses, until realized how ebin druid is and carry me through placements gold 3
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>>162302103
>muh website warz

fuck off loser!
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>>162306323
>this mad at getting blown out
rebbitors are amusing
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>>162302469
BMing and asspulling in hearthstone
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>>162306373

>small as shit community for this game as is
>"lol users of x media are such fuckers, users of y media are clearly superior"
>talking about the same shit game

literally autistic get over it
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>>162302103
>high ranked
>3k mmr
rofl
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>>162306537
>on 4chan
>surprised about autism
READ IT FAGS EVERYONE
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>>162306537
What's your talent choices on 4, 7, 10 and 16?
>>
>play ravenlord map with gazlo
>be a complete fucking cunt and always have at least one of my enemy tower conquered
>clear all the camps at lightspeed
>solo the boss for extra cuntyness
God I feel like a piece of shit now
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DEATH?
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>>162310497
i................am........the master..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................of death
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>>162309631

Yeah, this actually works for some time, actually. Not sure why Bronzies are tilted by Gazlowe/Azmodan picks, because they're actually pretty okay at low MMR.
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>>162241814
Thats totally fair, we did get those firebat and reaper files datamined not too long ago, I forgot to include them in my post. The reaper file was probably referring to OW reaper, but I have my hopes it was a SC one. I've said before, I dont think its talking about Malthael since none of the files use nicknames except for the SC unit names but thats just my opinion.
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>>162310693
not anymore kid.... *unzips dual demon hunter daikatanas*

*flips around you*

*trips and falls on ass, then trips again and falls on face where ass landed and sniffs*

nothin personnel squid.
>>
>>162217175

I would love a western outlaw Tychus Skin.
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>>162312040
It could work

>old ass gatling gun
>cowboy hat
>boots and shit

blizzard... stop appealing to the fucking chinese
>>
Ever since the last hotfix the game has had like a half second delay on everything I do. Is it just me getting fucked or is this an actual issue for other people?

And no it's not the internet I play a bunch of online games and it's only this.
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>>162311650
ass magic............................quaint.............................................but.......useful
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just got the patch download when is patch day
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>>162315856
Tuesday
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>>162315856
same day as always, boss
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>>162313443
okay, now how do we do the fucking lazer drill and mech?
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>>162316157
Use an old Starcraft I goliath instead of the odin.
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>>162316157

idk probably some beat-to-shit mining drill like something you'd see in Firefly

I'll have to think about the mech, but probably something similar; just used a really old lookin' dated piece of tech
>>
This hero is not Guldan, who is?
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>>162316456

Thrall
>>
>5+ minutes for ranked queue
what the fuck
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>>162316027
I'm new to the game

>>162316007
So same day as wow got it
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>>162316312
A giant fucking retarded mechanical spider.
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>>162316312
I'd prefer something in the vein of this for the mech.

An early generation version of the model of the mech, where the cockpit is rather open.
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>>162316871

Not him, but Blizzard thing. Weekly stuff done on Tuesdays, generally. Patches and stuff.

>>162317506

pls i'll take any spider i can get at this point
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>>162316157

Think of a giant locomotive
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>>162314906
who are you quoting..
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Sometimes I almost feel sorry for my opponents.
Then I realize Forced 50 is coming up fast and I better take a break from the game.
>>
I honestly feel like Soul Harvest on Nazeebo might be a bit underrated. Situational obviously, but on say two lane maps where a lot of fighting goes on in lanes, or against divers and such, I actually think it's useful.
>>
>>162318321
>that web hole

Spiders are for sexual
>>
>>162300368
He's good with auto attackers. He's particularly godly with tracer, tychus, valla, illidan, zarya, et cetera
>>
Is stitches a viable tank?
>>
Can you guys carry me on my TL placements?
I forgot it's about to end
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>>162320108
They deserve it for drafting 4 ranged with no peel.
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>>162321332
if your team has half a brain to play around stitches.

You literally are only there to hook/engorge or hook and combo wombo with your team.

You peel for your team by eating magic shots for heroes like Li Ming and bodyblocking stun projectiles.
>>
>>162321332
Not really, no. He's more of a set-up utility bruiser. Good with extra frontline. If he's the only warrior/melee, he's shit UNLESS the team he's in is good and the Stitches is at least good so you can hook consistently and 4v5 all the time.
>>
>>162321492
Your mmr affects your placement more than your win/loss.

Get some randoms and lose 10 games. Most teams will be similar to yours so you might actually win.
>>
Holy shit Uther is hot garbage
Rework when
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>>162321332
He's viable but only in specific comps. He needs follow-up for his hooks and/or a full blow up team for gorge.

>>162321930
He isn't. He's very comp dependant. You need a divehero on your team that benefits from your shield and an enemy team that does burst instead of heavy sustain.
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>>162322052
>Not going Meme Storm
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>>162322052
All of his talents are old and garbage
I mean youre talking about burst healing and the old fart doesnt even have Lay on Hands. Inexcusable.
>>
>>162321782
Yeah. I'm used to not dying as Artanis in that situation. I didn't realize until the end that none of us had died once.
>>
>>162320108
>draft 4 squishies and one tank
>people expects to not get raped
>>
>>162322895
>chen
>tank
>>
>>162322924
Ok, disruptive bruiser.
>>
I fucking wish I had Forced 50. I'm probably at a 75% lose rate right now. If not more.
>>
Im lookin forward to some of the buffs in the upcoming patches
>>
>>162324703
Really excited for Diablo. New tanks when.
>>
>>162323748
Remember: when you win it's because you are good. When you lose it's because Forced 50.
>>
>>162325093
>when you team absolutely carries you
>when you're sololane on a 2 lane map and 30s into the game your team starts dominating, killing shit left and right in the 4vs4
>>
>Lose a game
>Some random person on the enemy team whispers "easy easy keep trying piece of shit"

I've never seen this person ever, and there was no weird sense of rivalry between us in-game. Was I mistaken for somebody else, or is this schizophrenia?
>>
>>162325271
What hero did you play?
>>
>>162325372
Nazeebo, and he was Nova.

The ONLY thing I can think of, is when their team was about to win, he started hearthstepping at low health, so I threw some spiders on him and killed him. Maybe he was pissy over that or something.
>>
>>162325271

>feeling like fun so queue quick match on lunara
>enemy team has a four-man premade with a pretty solid comp
>they get a 15 or something kill lead and start bstepping all over the place
>whatever it'll be fine late game
>catch their ming out and blow her up
>proceed to force 4v5 and wipe them
>bstep all over their core and in front of their hall
>two of them whisper me a novel of insults after the game
>with me on ignore of course

And that's my blog post for the week.
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>>162325941
Just a question, how much did it take for you to be comfortable enough with Lunara? Especially with how she moves.
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Hey guys you were right, Jaina is cute.
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>>162326558
I don't play much so I don't know if I should
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>>162326167

I still haven't gotten the hang of it. Not completely, anyways. Haven't played her enough, which is why I went to play a Quick Match.
>>
Fuck High King's Quest, Lion's Maw is where it's at.
>>
the amount of dcs people have in this game is astounding
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Who level next?
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>>162329708
Zagara
>>
>>162329708
diablo or leoric you FUCKING cuck.
>>
>>162329852
That's my first choice, actually. I love covering a lane with creep and blowing its buildings down then monopolizing all the merc camps with Nyduses.

>>162329879
This was my second choice. Level a tank for when I can't play a specialist. A healer too. Then maybe an assassin. But Diablo is shit still so I'd go for Anoob, Stitches, Leoric, or Muradin.
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>>162329708

Here's a vote for comfy lane bug, even if she has fallen out of the meta.
>>
>>162329708
>>162329990
>7 of the top xp heroes are lane pushers
When will we get another comfy specialist? Mengsk fucking when?
>>
>>162329960
No, no tanks. Embrace your niche and play only specialists. Maybe supports. Then you'll play like a woman too.
>>
>>162329960
at least you maxed out the patrician specialist first

how about rehgar for healing and tychus for assassin they are fun

diablo is fun too fuck you plus he's getting buffed next week anyway

also redpill me on abadurr
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How many games would it take a consistent Master player to climb from Bronze 5 to Master?
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>>162329708

Level literally all those fucking 4s to 5 in whatever order you want.
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>>162330648
Also curious about this.

>have account that's currently D2
>wondering if I can place Bronze if I lose all ten placements next season
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>>162330648
It took the rusky girl something like 250 games
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>>162330648
There was some grill russian master/gm that went from bronze to master in like a week. Not sure of how many games, though. There was also a pro player on EU that did the same thing.
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>>162331613

Found it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4xriq8/nostromia_has_now_reached_masters_from_bronze_5/


Hotslogs of the account: http://www.hotslogs.com/Player/Profile?PlayerID=7734633
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>>162330594
>go slow mines
>have mad map awareness
>babysit reeee team mates with hat
>drop mines at choke points around map on enemy side
>win games

Don't pick abathur if they have zeratul or anything that can quickly get to you like falstad
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>Get angry at this game
>See that paragon supposedly got a new fast paced mode
>Try it
>Match lasts 36 minutes
now I know why I keep coming back
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>>162332412

>league friend and I swap, he tries hots and I try league
>55 minute bronze game because everybody is too scared to end

have sort of grown to almost enjoy the post twenty minute objectives/bosses winning the game outright, keeps things from dragging on too long

remove garden tho, map bans/roation when
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>towers of doom
>entire team at a single keep we lost
>3 altars popping
>can't give up altar or we lose
>no one even trying to go near one
>go to an altar
>die expectedly but it there was no point not to
>Y U FACE CHECK A BUSH?

Why are people in this game so fucking stupid?
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>>162332576
why do you think

this is like the moba you play if you don't like or aren't good at mobas
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>>162332798
kek when league-fags so sore over their shit game they have to come here and remind us that league is still shit and not worth playing.

If league or any moba are so much better, then why aren't you spending your time playing them instead of coming here and making a joke of yourself.
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>>162332917
League is better, but I like playing Hots more, so here I am.

>haven't played enough dota to comment
>also haven't tried any of the other mobas
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>>162333287
If you like to play hots more, then league isen't better.

What the fuck is this level of retardation.
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>>162333287
>i like league more so i play hots
to inteligent for me
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>>162333638
>reading comprehension
I specifically said that I enjoy Hots more.

>>162333418
League is better than Hots regardless of which I prefer, though.
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grinch alert
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>>162334551
A post I'd actually upboat.
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>>162302469
Jaina is good for JUST SURRENDER
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What's the best time to jump into ranked? I recently got my 15 heroes to level 5 and wanna give it a go. On a six or seven game win streak in qm, so I guess I feel like this is the natural progression.

Not on a weekend, though. Fuck that.
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>>162286178
Little bingo!
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16 games lost in a row.

What's your record?
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How's the new Adaptation?

>>162335371
I've still never had enough to full an entire page with red.
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>>162333813
On basis of what? Exactly what makes LULZ "better" than hots? More players?

More players =/= better game
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>Feel like playing an old favorite I haven't played in a long time
>Queue up for QM
>Murky and Gazlowe on the same team
>Another person DCs at loading screen

This game just told me to go fuck myself. Hard.
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>>162335721
QM is for shitting on noobs and testing heroes. Don't use it for anything else.
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I wish they'd rework Gazlowe speaking of him. Gazlowe and Nova really need SOMETHING. But hyuck hyuck winrate seems ok in bronze and silver so it checks out theyre totlaly ok guys
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why is it impossible to win as support
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>>162334801
more than anything, when you don't care what others do. improve yourself and don't be that guy that wants to bully and whine his way out of silver.

should play a few unranked first to get a feel for the cooperation and pace of the draft. ranked itself takes some experience beyond obvious things like avoiding drafting lesser low demand+priority characters first. always think situationally because there's something to learn for next time.
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>>162335371
How exactly does this happen? You know you could head into qm for free wins, right?
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>>162335612
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>>162336512
I mean someone has to have a lose streak for you to have win streak, it's simple.
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>Varian & Samuro are the most banned heroes
Why are people so shit?
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>>162336781
I ban varian because I don't want people on my team picking him.
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>>162336549
Sonya is the biggest babe though.

You know you'd wanna get manhandled by her if you had the chance.
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>>162336549
This post is very toxic.
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>>162336549
coming from league myself, i have not laughed as hard as i just did for a long time, reading "creative and fun playstyle built for strategy".

Ty anon, you just made my day gold.
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FUCKING WEEKEND HL WHY THE FUCK ARE SO MANY SHITTERS IN THIS GAME
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>>162337163
I wish you'd stop cuckposting about Sonya, her whole appeal is dominating a strong muscular independent woman.
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>>162337707
There have been shitters only in HL since they announced the end of the season.
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>>162337713
>not being dominated by a strong muscular independent woman

FTFY

>>162337997
on weekdays I can pull 4 people to victory even if they don't want to with Falstad, because they actually draft good heroes. on weekends it's 2 supports + Azmodan with solo tank Diablo who takes Lightning Breath.
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>>162337713
t. virgin
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>really like playing abathur, consider myself pretty decent at him
>can only pick him in HL IF I get last or second last pick AND map is suitable AND no counters already got picked AND my team's comp is exactly right AND no one dodges when I light him up

it's so fucking tiring playing support or tank every game, I just want to be the bug man
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>>162341610
This is something I REALLY wish they'd touch up on, in terms of hero balance. There's a few heroes who just rely on ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE GAME GOING PERFECTLY in order to be viable. It's pathetic.
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>>162341840
Name a moba game with a bigger percentage of viable heroes than hots.
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If pride gives us pause my love, then perhaps we have lived long enough already.
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Whats considered the average decent Lost viking build?
Because everything I try sucks and no matter how well I micromanage them I just get shit on all the time
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>>162342576
Only because it has a rather small group of heroes to begin with compared to others. 5 years from now the majority will be garbage and unused like every other game.
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>>162343370
http://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=The%20Lost%20Vikings
excepts I take the cd reduction talent at 16

what is your problem exactly? you keep dying? you are behind in exp even if you soak all the lanes? you don't take mercs at all?
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>>162344163
Dieing mostly, since half the time if the enemy targets me like a motherfucker and will erase a viking before I even knew they were there
Though I think I have been doing alright considering that in the game I just had I had contributed like 40 percent of my teams XP and the game before that I had collected around 36 globes(is that good, I feel as if it is)
Though to be fair it feels like cheating considering I came From Dota and mained Meepo in that game
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you gotta play very safe m8 untill the exp lead is overwhelming
just push when you know you wont get ganked or you can run away safely (you acn be a little bold with erik, not so much with the other 2)
if there's someone in your lane who is pushing hard, let your team know so hey can punish the fucker (they gotta know by themselves but in HL nothing is given, not even at diamond or above)
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>>162248652
>they want him to be sorta like Kharazim and Tyrande, able to build support but equally as viable when built full dmg.
You mean just like he used to be?
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>diamond 2
>4 days to get master
I want that epic lion
I only got into ranked recently and I've been bouncing between rank 1-2 by playing only tanks since it's all I remember, and Varian since he was so easy to pick up.
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wow
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>>162347498
>the gold coins have the hots logo on them
how did I miss that
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>>162336781
>>162336875
I ban Varian because t. Silver and I can't trust my team to coordinate to explode him on charge.
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>solo quickmeme on a saturday
What was I thinking?
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I really hope they have more "multiclass" heroes planned and that it won't just be Varian for a year.

I was thinking that because Varian is basically the Warrior class from WoW, it would be cool if we got more WoW classes for multiclass. I hope that we see a Druid hero who can choose between Bear and Cat and maybe Moonkin form; I think it would fit really well.
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>>162335721
Yeah, Quick Match is where you try out Heroes people get mad at you for picking in Ranked and immediately Dodge in Unranked.

>>162349435
how dead is his twin blades build, i haven't played in a few days

>>162336549
>creative and fun playstyle built for strategy

dead sides

wish hots had somebody as satisfying as darius though
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>>162350685
Near 100% ban rate on Varian so I couldn't say. I only played with two since nerf, one went Colossus, the other was perma dead but I think it's more of a case of diving 1v4 all the time.
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>>162350685
>as darius though
Tanking in general in LoL is "satisfying" since 90% of the time the tank wins the game.
Shit was retarded when the tanks were hard carrying the game more than the dps were.

That beings said we need more heroes with skillshots and activated abilities to actually make you feel like you're doing something.
Braum and Jhin were fun as fuck to play.
Blizz already has Reinhardt and they need to fucking add him.
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>>162336549
>female face
>sexy

Don't you believe his lies

I will admit though Illaoi has one of my favorite designs from League
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>>162351129
>tp in to fight a bit late
>get kill with R, immediately proccing passive
>1v4 because enemy team in horrible position
>they surrender off it

And hope we get Reinhardt soon, or somebody half as satisfying as Jhin.
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>>162350685
Nothing in any moba was as satisfying as pre nerf Kael. When living bomb could spread on minions.
Watch the enemy team engage with a minion wave, and either scatter in panic or melt.
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List your progression and gold lads

Own about 75% of the heroes in game, sittin' on a clean 25,000g.
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When I go tank Varian, should I get Overpower or Lion's Maw at level 1? I've had success with both of them but I don't know which I prefer overall.
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>>162353449
You take kings quest.
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Who is best girl?
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>>162329708
Chromie?
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>>162353885
I thought about it but it doesn't seem as good as the other two. At level 20 you don't even have as much AA damage as Dehaka or Diablo, so why not just go for more burst or more slow instead?
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>>162355191
Overpower is turboshit, I have never picked the Q quest before, guess those 2 seconds aren't bad.
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>>162354534
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>>162356621
nice rare pepe
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>>162245517
i'll help you with cho meme lad sometime
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>>162286178
B I N G O
I
G
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my mmr is 575 in hero league is there a bad enough dude that is lower?
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Why are both of Sylvanas's ults so worthless?
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>>162361420
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tfw you get the only kill on the losing side
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>>162361739
Why are you calling me Bronze?
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>>162363730
Not that anon but,
>thinking both Sylv' heroics are worthless
Is literal bronze.
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>>162330594
>>162331910
The way I play Aba varies based on teams and map.

For smaller maps, maps with narrow passes, or maps with focused, predictable objectives the enemy MUST contest to survive, mine builds rock. You can pack mines around the shrines on Dragonshire and drop a lot of assassins to 50% before they even make contact with the ally you're hatting on the point.

For larger maps, I usually like to abuse the distance by splitpushing with a locust build. Focus on holding as many forward forts as you can in the early game, and help your team win objectives. But once you start getting locust upgrades like cleavers/spawn 3 locusts/nest/etc you can begin surging down lanes with 2-5 locusts that cleave and explode at a time. Every objective/teamfight you can tunnel to a forward position that you've defensively mined, spawn a ton of locusts, then hat/ultimate evolution an ally for the teamfight while your bugs destroy a fort. If there's not a big fight, you can hat your own locusts and minions to help push the fort.

Using your mines on every path and choke point to your position ensures almost no enemy can reach you before you can hearth or tunnel out. I'm partial to slowing mines for this reason. Global mines are also nice on big maps, because otherwise you have to slug-crawl down the lane or hop from mine to mine. With global mines, you can be in your fountain, drop a mine 80% of the way down the map in the steam vent outside the enemy's base, tunnel to it, drop the rest of your mines, drop a nest, and spawn your 3 locusts and have them start knocking down the door. You can choose to stay or hearth at that point. The drawback is it competes with the short mine cooldown and +2 charges talent, which is great for making an area impassable to most enemies.
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>it's a i have 2 placement games left and the group im in is saying how they want to go all support or all specialist xd and how people always rage at them
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Nazeboo going maximum spider build is fun. If you get 150 stacks before level 20 that is
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>>162330594
>>162364917
I also do enjoy playing him against stealthies. Good mine placement will break their rotations. They'll try to go from lane to lane and get damaged and knocked out of stealth and pinged by you before they can make their gank. Eventually Nova will start using her holodecoy to check places you've mined in the past and Zera will start using his cleave to try to clear those spots before stepping on them, but you've already planted your mines in different spots if you're any good, so they're now wasting time, mana, AND still probably hitting mines. They WILL come for you sooner rather than later, so keep a few mines on the approaches to your position, and park your slug ass somewhere hard to reach and harder to escape from.

Ex: Don't sit so close to the forward towers/gate that Zera can kill you under them then Blink over the wall and escape. And don't sit so far behind your fort/keep that you can be sniped from the edge of the lane or combo'd by zeratul and then have him blink out of the lane to safety. Ideally, you want to be placed so that Zera/Nova have to suffer as many towers shots as possible in order to kill you.

You can also move around a lot to keep them guessing. You probably should move a lot anyhow. When your team leaves a lane open, tunnel to it to keep it soaking, or hat a minion wave there.

Finally, there's something to be said for his hat builds. They're viable too. Perhaps more viable than the mines-and/or-locusts builds I play. They just demand a decent team in order to work well, while I've managed to carry teams of 4 retards to victory by just forcing the enemy team to hold 1 back to stop my pushes while I Ultimate Evolutioned into a teamfight to make it a 5v4.

From my experience, Ultimate Evolution is ALWAYS better than Evolve Monstrosity. The Monstrosity is weak as fuck to any enemy hero that wants it dead, including Lilis and shit. It also requires a ton of handling on your part to keep it from suiciding down a lane.
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>>162330594
>>162365256
Ultimate Evolution has value outside of teamfights as well. The CD is super short, so you can use it to jack a merc camp or push down a fort or keep if you clone someone good at that. I love to clone Azmodan and Sylvanus because 2x of either of those will destroy a keep in seconds.

Either way, pushing or teamfighting, you can go HAM with Ultimate Evolution. Clone Jaina and you can charge in and EWQ their team without a care that you'll immediately get burned down. You just did 1k burst damage to their team and slowed them for your own Jaina. Cloning Samura and ganking with your ally's Samuro, leading to 6 Blademasters hitting an enemy, is hilarious as well.

For the hats, I think offensive hat has the best winrate according to hotslogs, and it is good. Relies on teammates a lot, but if you have them and like babysitting more than pushing it can also be used to push because of course you can hat minions and locusts and still get the extra stab damage, etc.

Support/defensive hat, with a focus on Carapace, has a really low winrate, and it usually sucks for me, but I've had games recently where it worked: Both teams were ALL bursty ranged assassins. So I took extra shields, persisting shields, healing shields, group shields, etc, and could heal my allies up between skirmishes. They'd get knocked to 50% hp from one trade, as would their enemies. But their enemies would have to back off while mine healed to full.

If you don't trust your team, mines are also great here because no healer means the damage from those mines adds up. You end up choosing: How do I want to tilt the balance of health pools in this match? By adding damage to enemies as they walk between objects and lanes, or by healing my allies during and between fights so they can spend more time in the lanes and fighting on the objectives?

I usually favor the former, because you can't heal a dead ally but you can damage enemies without anyone getting hurt with proper mine placement.
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>want to practice Medivh in QM
>people never use my portals even when it would save them or allow them to wipe out the enemy team
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>>162355191
>>162353885
>>162353449
Overpower was nice pre-nerf because damage from Heroic Strike healed you through Second Wind. Now it's pretty useless for a tank build, you might as well get some more CC.
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>>162367941
Personally, I see Medivhs so rarely, and good portal use even more rarely, that it often doesn't even register to me that I can portal out or into a fight until I'm halfway there anyhow.
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Alarak

Secret top tier or just plain over-complicated midtier hero that needs inhuman skills to be mediocore?
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I can't get any queues to pop. The game seems really dead. Which queue is the shortest? I just want to play.
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>>162370145
With regular, bronze skill, he's terrible.
With good, Platinum skill, he's mediocre.
With inhuman GM skill, he's top tier.
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>>162370313
I've been getting games in unranked draft in less than a minute.
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Every single daily quest for the past two weeks has either been play as a specialist or play as a diablo hero
I've been trying to level up Xul anyway but what the hell
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Time for dem placements matches before season ends m8.
Ready for that cancer
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>>162365256
Could you give some examples of good anti-Zera/Nova positioning?
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>>162370145
too squishy in this memeburst meta to be good unless played by top 0.1% especially with heroes suchs as Varmeme and Li-Meme being instapick if not banned
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>>162371606
Memeian.
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>>162371271
Look at where they are, and where they might want to go, and how they might get there.

Drop mines right in that path. Maybe in bushes they'd like to set up a gank from or retreat to after a gank.

And after they've triggered those a few times, put the mines just BEFORE that, and maybe put two on either side of the location.

So now as they approach and think "I'll throw a decoy to see if there's any mines there" they'll hit a mine first, then, if they try to go around your old mine spot, they'll hit your new mines.

It's a given early in the game that enemies will tend to rotate between lanes on their side of the map, which makes those good spots to trap. But also consider they may try to ride in behind your team for a gank, so your laning allies might like to have their flanks covered in that case.

As for protecting yourself, just look at where the stealthies are and think about all the paths they could take to you, and drop mines in the places most likely to be traversed. This will lead to a lot of mines at the closest access point to your lane, then a scattering of others on the approach to that access point.

I'll try to take some screenshots.
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>>162370145
How does Alarak need inhuman skills? Just pull people into your team and roam for ganks or something, that works for me
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>tfw uninstalled hots for the 13th time
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>>162356621
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>>162359484
Sham had negative MMR for a while. He was the legendary sylvannas player who took possesion over wailing arrow because he didn't know how to detonate it, despite being a level 20 sylvanas player.
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>think you know it all
>watch livestream of fnatics shotcaller doing teamleague with subs
>realise you are a big fat shitter
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>>162375717
>realizing you're a shitter

you've taken the first step
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>tfw few of the "meta" heroes interest you
>tfw forever an off-meta shitter
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>warps you behind him
>unsheathes psi blades
>triple strikes you
>applies vulnerable
>"pssh... enough of you... kid"
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I'm sitting on 10k right now, but I don't know who to buy

I'm kinda lacking in the Specialist and Support department so I was considering either Kharazim or Xul, but I'm open to suggestions
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Where do I go if I want to find some randoms to play TL with?
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>>162375717
Link to videos like this? I wanna git gud
I'm currently high Diamond with ~150 games played.
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>>162377384
Same here, man. Same here.
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>>162377962
>it was meme image all along
>unseathes katana
>wind walks behind you
>critical strikes you
>"pssh...this is a good death kid"
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>>162379234
bls resbond
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>>162380431
>teleports to a Nydus behind you
>unsheathess a million bugs
>takes your mercs
>pushes your keep
>"pssh... soft and weak... kid"
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>>162379234
Le meme skeleton man is still high tier imho. Counters Thrall, Sonya and Varian nicely and it's always nice to have a root.
Kharazim requires an adequate frontline, shining with double warrior and sucking with mono tank + ranged squad. Fits nicely with dive comps.

My suggestion: farm another 5k and wait Ragnaros.
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I hope Zul'jin comes after Ragnaros.
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>>162379234
Azmodan is pretty cool but he has less utility than Xul.

I'm not really a fan of any of the supports. Kharazim is kinda fun but I dunno. I want to try Rehgar.
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>>162381695
if you want a specialist consider buying Sylvanas.
good and fun
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>>162381792
>appears from the bushes
>pops laser drill
>throw a grenade at you
>"UEEH HA HA HAAaargh"
>"pssh...dont stand infront of that end kid"
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>>162382220
Nah, Maiev was confirmed after rag.
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>>162383178
I don't have a laughing girls, frog, never ever shining grinning face in a pc monitor etc. picture at hand right now, so just feel like I've replied to you with three separate posts all containing your statement in green ink with each of those pictures.
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>>162383178
>throw "glaive"
>turn invisible and spawn clones
>kick tank off edge
>spawn walls of ghosts
>alternatively pic related

why do people want her again
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>>162375557
Pug also took possession and he was a lvl 20 sylvanas player too
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>>162383474
that's not maiev in your pic btw
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>>162385323
is this reddit now
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>>162385836
that's thaddius wtf
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>>162386074
no i think that is the dog with the zombie chows
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>last season I was gold 1 with a single win to get promotions to platinum
>lost a bunch of games and dropped to gold 2
>do this season
>i qualified gold 5

what does it mean
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buy Nazeebo or save for Lunara
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>>162385836
If you're the "attention mostly" guy from a few threads back, this is hilarious. How many do you have?
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>>162383474
You are describing cordana not maiev. Maiev is best waifu
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>>162388530
>tfw trying to delete smurf out of shame because stuck at p1 1000 points
>>162389087
I usually just make them up as things go along. Keeps threads slightly less dead. Sometimes.

>>162388938
Q build zeebo is lookin' pretty dumb next season, and Lunara is a bit trickier, at least I think so.
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>>162388938
I find nazeebo more fun to play, but lunara seems to be better
They're both heroes you need to git gud at in order to not be absolute dead weight so good luck anon
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>>162389331
Oh, that's right. Was a discussion a few threads ago, I think.

what on earth would maiev do then, i thought she had a kit similar to zera
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so many jobber teams at HGC.
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>It's not a coin flip MMR is a real thing

HA HA HA....
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>>162388938
buy the Christmas pack with naz, luanra and their skin.

Else just go with the cute one.

>>162379234
supports : khara, bw, malf
spe : azmo, abathur
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>>162390310

isnt that shit gonna be like 40 USD

fuck that noise
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>>162390134
>start season
>have a 40% winrate
>slowly over time it rises
>the more games I get the more it rises
>end season with 55% in hl
>bronzies still think forced 50 is real
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INSEEEEECT
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Looks like your enemy has ALL PAID UP
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>>162392041
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>>162388530
Plat 1 last season, then dropped to plat 2. Gold 1 this season and I've stuck there. Maybe there were some changes to the algorithms?
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>Nexus Conqueror Bundle 74% off
>still fucking 16 dollars

any chance it's cheaper during christmas?
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Buy stitches or buy lunara?
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>>162393073
Lunara, because you either play the hook character or you don't.

Also I think his entire kit is shit and gross and should be reworked but that's just me
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What map is the most fun and why is it dragon shire?
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>>162388530
At every season everybody instantly gets deranked/loss of MMR. It's their "decay"

Meme, basically.
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>>162382603
>can poke objectives and clear waves from 2 screens away
>can melt forts and keeps in seconds
>can push lanes even during teamfights with generals all game
>can single handedly push 3 lanes at a time by putting a general in one, Qing another, and spawning demons in the third that he occupies
>LESS UTILITY THAT SPOOKY SKELETON MAGICIAN MAN
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>>162393926
His slam is useless unless you talent for it.
And that's a bad idea because it turns the rest of your kit into a useless heap of trash.
His trait is just weird. It doesn't deal enough damage to really be worth it, but talenting for it is also a bad idea.
He could really use some baseline QoL buffs like trait-trigger on slam, some slightly increased damage and his trait in general not being so shit.
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>>162395389
That's just lane pressure.
Utility means CC of all kinds.
Xul can decrease healing, can massivly decrease enemy AA speed, can root and vulnerable key targets, can pop shield to survive burst and at the same time hit tanks for tons of damage and so on.

Xul DOES bring more utility, at the cost of only being able to pressure the lane he himself is in.

Azmodan's ability to amplify damage is obscene, though. Black Pool under Jaina is a teamwipe, most of the time.
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>>162395407
I haven't played him in months but Slam/Trait build used to be alright.
Your Slam ended up huge, stunned, and applied your trait DoT to everything.
He could 1-shot minion waves and deal decent teamfight damage. It's just without all the healing traits everyone usually takes on him he's much more a bruiser than a real tank.
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is this an alive game?
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>>162395667
>Black Pool under Jaina is a teamwipe, most of the time.
What in the actual fuck are you talking about? No wonder why there are so many retarded posts on /hotsg/
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>>162395667
>black pool under jaina is team wipe

i think you just exposed yourself

>>162395751
no

>>162395731
>stun build slammed
how many years has it been
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>>162395751
me on the right
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>>162395667
>Black Pool
>under Jaina
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>>162396950
Beta, probably. Maybe alpha. Was like a .5 or 1 seconds stun.
Full talented Slam had a reach of half the screen and a wide arc.

Used to play him on Haunted Mines like that and he'd one-shot the undead clusters in the mines with Slam.
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>>162397978
Yeah, just the realization that I've been here for a while setting in.

>>162395407
I think it's mostly just that his kit doesn't really support the fact he's the hooker.

>blitz has knockup and silence
>thresh has flay and box ult
>pudge has level 20 murky ult

idk any other hook heroes but patchwerk has to take the gross ult to do anything with things he hooks
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>>162398323
I personally stopped playing halfway through the beta, until just recently. Coming back, they've changed a lot, mostly for the better, but they still have Blizzard's ancient problem of giving some heroes all the cool tricks and then leaving others with nothing, but no benefit from it.

I remember (and vaguely miss) artifacts. Getting % hp regen on Diablo was broken as hell.
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Dude Taunt Varian is so good, why doesn't anybody play him?
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>>162401410
Because is shit.
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>>162401410
Because they're Bronze as fuck. Prot Varian is great.
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>>162395667
>Black Pool under Jaina
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God, weekend HotS is the worst fucking thing I've ever experienced.
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>people complain about li-ming damage
>chromie exists
>can literally delete you from offscreen

what's wrong with you retards
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>>162404125

Probably because Li-Ming is in literally every game.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH PAGE 10 NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>some retard first picks tracer on spider queen
>does nothing but disconnect and die
>call him shit
>he gets mad and spam whispers me after game

shiggy
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>Last 30 Days
Go.
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>>162408108
People are hilarious.I once 1v1'd a Xul about two times as Gazlowe on BoE, just us two bot and the rest were top. Just a bit before we won, he happened to land a killing blow on me with a Bone Spear. So after the game, So immediately after the game the dude whispers me "dont ever try to 1v1 me you fucking piece of shit fuck you".

I wonder what the fuck kind of thought process that guy went through, that concluded upon "Yeah, I'm gonna whisper this guy this shit and ignore him immediately that'll show that faggot that beat me 1v1 earlier!"
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>>162408547
>Beat faggot Muradin 1v1 all game
>He manages to kill me running to heal after I ganked a different lane
>Whispers me after game some shit how he killed me (once)
>Ignores all the times I spanked him and forces him out of XP range
>Whisper back that my team won
>This player has ignored you
kek

Seems like retards are attracted to the "m-muh meta!!!" Same with tier-list noobs.
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>>162408457
>hotsdogs

You go. Kill yourself, that is.
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>quickmatch on dragon shrines
>gazlowe on team with master skin
>he is afk at the start and gets dropped
>bot the whole game
>get predictably destroyed
>enemy falstad hearthsteps in front of our base
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>>162409470

>tfw people are so shit at game they can't tell if enemy player is bot
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>characters that need to be removed from the game but never will because "h-high skillcap!!!"

>chromie
>medivh
>vikiings
>illidan
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>>162410032
Tracer and Samuro too
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>He just need to click on objective to win
>At the last milisecond he presses Z to mount canceling the channeling
>"WTF PING"
>starts channeling again
>2 seconds later the other team appears and kills him, we lose
Damn I hate ping
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>>162395751
Who's this semen demon?
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Alright, first support to lvl 10
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>get assrammed by butcher clone and then by the real butcher right after

ebin
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>>162411789
>5v3 until at least level 10
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>start ranked game someone instaquits
>another one speaks in spanish all match
>other one its a kid

should hots be better with a paywall?
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>>162412467
the overwatch community is worse than hots
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>late game lunara
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>>162412467

and it would seem they have plans to add voice comms :^)
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>>162401410
Because he stops being good outside of first pick gazlowe territory.
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>>162412467
Paywalls never made pubs better for anything be it video games to real-life private membership clubs.

The ones who say otherwise are liars or delusional.
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>>162410032
>characters that bronze players hate
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>>162408457
>flexing over farming pugs with a premade
Pathetic, tbqh
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>>162411472
>implying any Kharazim knows how to support
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>>162412965
oh god i hope they do
this game might actually become fun to play
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>>162412467
you forgot
>pick anything remotely non-meta
>someone evades
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Quick /hotsg/.

Can you give me a crash course in drafting?
I'm a QM shitter but apparently you get e-gold for playing some ranked matches before the season ends.
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>>162414825
always instalock nova
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>>162414537
And if they don't evade, your whole team is "on tilt" and everything that goes wrong will be your fault, and they won't shut the fuck up about it until you're out of the game.

Fuck HL.
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>>162415317
Fuck low mmr HL more like.

I don't ever experience this shit at my mmr. Occasionally people get tilted at picks but as long as it's something people can work with they usually do.
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Anybody ever use Transcendence on Monk? I swear it feels like Insight is better for supporting 9 time out of 10.
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>>162415927

>pick azmodan down in silver during smurf placements
>double li-mings hero damage
>more siege than everybody combined
>enemy lanes were rotting from minute one
>azmo pick was criticized until the very end at which point somebody said you're welcome for carry
>we won ofc

what makes these people this way

and how do people actually get into bronze and silver
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>>162414825
if you are first pick choose what you like according to the map, dont choose something like abathur in braxis

if you are in the middle try to pick counters

if you are last pick choose something thats useful that they dont have a counter for example vikings in garden if they dont have liming
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How do I Samuro? I bought him on release because I loved the blademaster in WC3 but his job is so much different despite having the same abilities and I have no idea what talents to pick because they all sound useful
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>>162417047

>e to engage
>q
>mash w
>e to escape
>r is spin move
>ur also good at mercs
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>>162417402
>mash w
t. silver
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>>162417532
idk hes complicated and seems high skill cap which is why he has a positive winrate at every mmr hehe
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>>162417402
>using bladestorm

its literally a sign saying ''its me, kill me''
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Have 7.6k and I'm on the fence between saving for Abathur, buying Rehgar, or buying Tychus. I have no support heroes that I like.
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>>162416320
>some shitty undranked draft
>my team picks absolute dogshit
>I'm last pick
>we have neither a real tank nor support
>decide to go fuck it and go lili
>outdmg my whole team
>we still lose
guess who gets blamed
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>>162416429
>being able to last pick vikings in garden
Hi, Bronze.
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>>162419528
Rehgar is fucking based
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>feeding illidan is trash talking all game
>check his mmr
>he is actually bronze
Why am I getting matched with these people, my mmr is diamond even in qm
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>>162420380
Game tends to put you with shitters rather than putting you against good players.
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>>162420324
And about to get buffed.
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>>162420380
Matchmaking goes by the team's overall average MMR. Meaning you will be put with people far below you, or could possibly be matched with people far above you, as long as the team's average MMR amongst all 5 members is roughly equal to the enemy team's.

According to some anon, which I choose to believe is some Blizzard employee who lurks from time to time, they can't do individual MMR despite that being the ideal because the game's playerbase is just too small, it would cause a lot of problems.
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Medivh looks like a great filler as he serves both the specialist and the support role, should I buy him? I've never had the chance to play him, but I can buy him right away
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>>162422319
I wouldn't recommend it. He requires a lot of skill and practice to play well, and can by no means function as a solo support.

And stop thinking of specialists as a role. All specialists can be fit into other roles.
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>>162422319
medivh is shit without a good team, i wouldnt recommend it if you solo queue
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>>162420324
>>162421448
neat

I bought him

first match I played was fun, except for a Nova and Zeratul partied together. Just imagine what two people who would queue as stealth assassins play and act like
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>>162423021
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>>162424040
I am not nu-pokemon savvy. who're these wild characters?
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>>162416147
I only use transcendence because I'm afraid of picking Insight.
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>>162424587
New antagonists in the newest Pokemon game. They're a bunch of wiggers.
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>>162425052
the two stealthbabbies acted like absolute degenerates, you're spot on
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go ahead and die thread idgaf
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I know spider build is a thing now, but fucking Widowmakers just feels like crap still, compared to Thing of the Deep.
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is there one person of hotsg that does not have mental problems?
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>>162428817
I feel like I can never land spiders on heroes. Or zombies for that matter. The one second delay feels more like 1.5-2
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fucking dead. just let it stay dead you fuckers so we can have more erp generals
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post a discord link
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>>162430101
No, fuck off.
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>>162395751
you just know
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>>162395751
who's that girl on the right
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>>162430413
Leslie Jones
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May/Aprilish

Katrana Prestor/Onyxia -- Specialist/Multiclass/Assassin

Abilities -- human form

Sabotage -- Touch a fort or keep to cause next group of enemy minions to spawn with one health.

Drakefire Amulet -- Trap. Hero touching the amulet gets it stuck to them, granting vision and causing the next five auto-attacks to miss. Ability damage of affected hero reduced by x% for three seconds.

Councilor -- Empower allied minions for a brief time.

Kidnap -- Heroic. Targeted hero is removed from combat for a brief time. If hero's name is Varian, hero is instantly killed with a quarter of the respawn time.

Puppetmaster -- Heroic. Current drakefire amulet target is controlled by the player as if it were their chosen hero for x seconds.

Standard mount.


Trait: Disguised. Lady Prestor cannot be targeted by enemy towers, forts, keeps, or minions. Heroes attacking her break this disguise.
Abilities -- dragon form

Flame Breath -- Cone of fire like every other cone of damage ability in the game

Tail Sweep -- AoE knockback, stuns.

Lay Eggs -- Enemies that wander too close cause eggs to hatch. 3 whelps emerge to attack. Can drop around anywhere like mines. After a minute or so, eggs hatch on their own and move to the nearest lane as Onyxian Warders

Deep Breath -- Heroic. "Onyxia takes a deep breath..." Onyxia sweeps a small area, breathing out a wave of flames. (Think localized Ragnaros flame wave.)

Engulfing Flames -- Heroic. Onyxia flies into the air becoming unstoppable. After a short period, she picks the nearest enemy regardless of distance and fires a fast-moving fireball with tracking.

Mount becomes global flight.


Trait: Disguise broken -- Activate to resume disguise early. Otherwise disguise resumes after a period of time.
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>>162431951
lmao
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>>162431951
>yfw this is all real
>yfw axolotl was dustin browder this whole time
>he doesnt give a shit now that he isn't on hots anymore and he's free to post shit without being found out
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>Hero League
>bored in selection screen
>start clicking shit randomly
>suddenly get kicked
>get leaver status
Was there a ditch button I didn't know about that I accidentally hit or what?
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When will they add a concede vote when you are 3+ levels behind?
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>queue for a game
>go get a drink
>been kicked out of queue
What the fuck are they doing
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>>162433561
And I lost points
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>>162434084
when it becomes impossible for people to come back from a 3 level difference

go play battlerite or something
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>more disconnects
How am I supposed to climb out of diamond at this rate?
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>>162434914
By climbing into plat
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>>162433005
What is he on now? I don't think any of the "ongoing" games (HS, WoW) need more big devs than they already have, while SC and Diablo are dead and don't need even those they have. So it has to be either something big for Overwatch, or a completely new project.
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>>162435441
warcraft 4
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>>162435520
>year 2010+
>RTS
They'll do Lost Vikings 3 before they do another RTS. They already spend too much time and money to keep Stracraft on life-support
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>>162435740
Warcraft 3 DLC then
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>>162435441
Something unannounced, is all we know. I'm hoping it's on whatever the fuck they're working on for Diablo, because we know they're doing SOMETHING Diablo related, but haven't revealed anything about yet.
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>>162431951
Fake, too much detail
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>literal retards are still being matched up into my teams
When will they actually make the matchmaking good instead of forcing 50/50?
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>>162436651
or maybe YOU are the retard and they only match you with players of similar skill
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I want to be a good Dehaka. Fuck. I really like him.

Don't know if it's normal or not, but I am fucking retarded with his Isolation. I always miss.
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>>162436772
just wait for the next patch and pick adaptation instead senpai
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>>162436772
Yeah next patch he gets some nice changes
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>>162436536
>Kidnap -- Heroic. Targeted hero is removed from combat for a brief time. If hero's name is Varian, hero is instantly killed with a quarter of the respawn time.

Gee, what gave it away
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>>162436925
that's just fitting with the lore man.
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>>162436772
It's hard as shit to hit. I tend to aim it in the direction of clumped up enemies if I don't get other cc to follow up on.

If it hits anything I'm happy. Aiming it as specific people doesn't work half of the time altought you get those great moments when you actually hit ttheir support or mage or cancel an ult.

Chens and Tychus are nice to hit targets obviously. Hitting Chen is very impactful too.
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alright /hotsg/ should I expect an in-development video during the christmas holidays or am I delusional?
if they want to keep the 3-4 weeks release schedule they should announce the next hero in december right?
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>>162437214
Blizzard will release an in-dev video in January, they are on vacation until the end of the year
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>>162437214
Last year we had no hots news from Blizzcon until February I think that was when they teased li-ming. But then we were still waiting for Greymane since they announced 3 heroes at blizzcon. It could happen but blizzard usually goes silent for a while during christmas break.
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>>162437214
>>162437252
They'll release one probably week after New Year's and we'll get Zul'jin (or whoever else) mid-January
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I love it. Mura told me off for my build and told me to go to Icy Veins and said "Medusa's Blades" is a splitpushing skill, why did you go Maw?

Because I don't splitpush unless they are giving away free forts and Nydus cheese doesn't matter if we lose every teamfight?
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>>162438037
>playing Jo
>wiff my shield
>we lose team fight

>playing ETC
>get a good mosh
>0 kills come out of since no one dealt any damage

>playing Varian
>1v2ing their valla and malf
>my team dies 4v3 despite no level disadvantage

Every
Fucking
Time
These games are always a total stomp either way, the only "equal" games I see are when one team keeps losing fights but pushing hard enough or somehow getting objectives to keep them in the game, and then the other team loses because they don't clear waves/keep fighting even though their team isn't geared for it.
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>>162438037
Actually, to add onto this, I was under the impression that builds were generally pretty immutable in HOTS. In that the power level disparity between the best build and what may seem like a better situational build is too large for me to end up taking different talents every game.

But I only play QM. And maybe looking HL Masters build based on popularity alone IS the wrong thing to do.

Should I try to be a bit more even handed to more situational builds? For like, Zagara, almost all the talents at Masters Build ARE splitpush talents, but they still pick Maw. Is that because people don't hit 10 if they go full splitpush?

Or am I just being retarded?
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>>162439065
>builds were generally pretty immutable in HOTS
It depends on the hero and who you're facing.
Some heroes are pretty flexible and can take many different paths.
Leoric can either build for swing or drain hope. Swing is great for cluttered teamfights and letting you get some attacks in on the more mobile heroes, drain hope is for the double/triple tank comps or for Cho.

It really depends on who you're facing most of the time, like Xul's anti-healing and reduced cooldown on scythe are great vs double support or if you're team just can't seem to burst down the enemy tank.
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>there are people who are arguing that Ragnaros isn't THAT broken
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>>162442291
just 5v1 him before the teamfight and you're golden, famalam
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fuck me, it happened hotsg, I am now the proud owner of a bronze border!

thank you blizzard, for your matchmaking system, and all my team mates you matched me with!
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>have a dream about getting a 5 day ban in HotS for an unspecified reason
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>EU patch delayed to thursday
so when does new season start?
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>>162444501
You need some real life in your life if that is what your nightmares are about...
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>>162444363
There are 2 main reasons someone should be in bronze.

>Age/physical/mental condition
Being too young or old.
If you have slow reactions or click like you're playing fucking Mine Sweeper.
Refusal to listen to teammates or generally anyone who isn't sucking your dick, not knowing how to communicate without coming across like a total ass and making people not want to listen to you.

>Hardware/Internet
If your frames suck ass and you miss shots you should've landed you should stop being a poorfag or just stick to Minesweeper.

>Game Knowledge
If you're still level 25 and brand new to Mobas you should stay out of hero league until you get a better feel for the game.
And by better feel I mean have played with at least half the roster and have a complete understanding of all abilities, possible interactions and counters.
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>>162445704
>2 reasons
>list 3
Hard to berate people when I make such a simple mistake.
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How would you make stitches a viable tank with the least amount of changes possible?

Would reducing the baseline cooldown of slam by 2 seconds and chain/devour by 4 seconds do it?
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>when you get MVP
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>>162447926
He is a viable tank if you're a non screamer...
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Game should have literally no communication allowed unless it's Master. Diamond and below scrubs need to learn to shut the fuck up.
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>>162448720
Why don't you start and make an example for the rest of us?
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>>162448265
>Everyone was shittalking you the whole match
>You get MVP
>>
Whens the patch dropping
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>>162449072
>you lost the game anyway
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>>162449072
>tfw shittalking your whole team and then get MVP
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>some retard does nothing but hard push his lane all game
>never talks in chat
>never comes to objectives
>we win without him
>report him anyway

fuck you if you do this, I literally do not care how much you think you're helping by "hard carrying these shitters", you need to fuck off and play a single-player game or something
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>>162449961
>we win without him
lmao if it wasnt for my soak we'd all lose, cry more faggot
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>>162449961
But playing like that is a sure ticket out of platinum
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>>162448563
What's a screamer in this context?
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>>162438423
>play Johanna
>whiff shield

Could have stopped reading.

When you Mosh are you making sure of the position of your assassins? Because if one is dead and one half a lane away you just wasted a cooldown and it's entirely your fault.
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>>162449040
HO LEE SHIT
BTFO
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>>162439065
They still pick Maw because at higher level plays winning a teamfight has a larger impact on the game.
You know in your games, when you 3-0 their team? Suddenly one of your guys chases a half kill foe the whole map, a couple try to solo two different merc camps, one legs it to soak a lane on the opposite side of the map...
None of that in Masters. Losing a teamfight invariably means losing a keep, a boss, all camps on the map. You can't afforf to try any Nydus cheese when you have such a strong teamfight tool and winning a single one does a lot more damage than Nydus splitpush would ever do.
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>>162451519
>When you Mosh are you making sure of the position of your assassins?
Whole team was right next to me.
Our kt literally took 3 seconds to decide if he was going to chase the 2 people not in my mosh or cast some fucking spells.
Our Zeratul was hitting the full health diablo the entire time instead of the raynor
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HOLY SHIT
THEY ARE ADDING TALENTS TO DOTA
THEY CAN'T GET AWAY WITH THIS
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When exactly is the right time to pick Medivh? What's the niche he fills? Secondary support? Wildcard after nobody really needs anything but utility is appreciated?

I really like him but I have no idea what's his role in the team besides utility with some damage
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>>162452549
The whole point of the talent system is to forgo items.
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>>162452558
>utility and damage
That's all any hero is.
It's also a team thing, if no one takes gates he gets really supbar.
He's great for sniping low health heroes behind gates tho
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>>162452549
Blizzard will fucking sue these little niglet ass just like they did with NOST FAFFOTS!!
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>>162452549
no shut you're butt

The only thing I have over my gay friend who plays dota is that my game is faster, more convenient and less complicated

If they get this too, I fear we are ruined :(((
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>>162452558
after the rework next october.

>>162452614
it's to make scaling more interesting than +100hp and what not. otherwise it's different names on the same shit.
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>>162452558
36% WR birdman has practically no place in the current meta
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Reminder to always ban Varian so your team can't pick him.

Reminder that your special snowflake talent choices do not make him "sleeper OP".

Reminder that no matter what anyone tells you, Varian is a dumpster fire of a hero that almost guarantees a loss for you and your team.

>inb4 win rates from shitters in Wood League
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>>162456512
shitter
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How do I spec this Hero's talents?
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>>162452549
A P O L O G I Z E
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For Taunt Varian, should I take Second Wind or Victory Rush?
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>>162457032
>tfw no good HotS lewds
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>>162457464
back 2 leddit, kid
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>>162449072
>team is shitalking you
>you backoor all game since your team won't group up for objectives and personally kill all 3 enemy keeps and 2 of 3 forts
>as you win the game alone on the enemy core after 1v2ing their defenders and your team holds off a boss push with the other 3 enemies they tell you "you're welcome for the carry uninstall you piece of shit"
>you get MVP with top hero damage, top siege damage, and top exp on your team
>also had top kills and least deaths
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ITS REAL HOTSFAGS

ICEFRAUD GAVE TALENTS BEFORE HE QUIT DOTA 2 DEV!

>http://www.dota2.com/700/
>http://pastebin.com/aHU14XuM
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guys whats happening over at dota 2?
they got a hots logo and lots of butthurt right now.
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>>162458860
they are copying our talent system lol :D
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>>162458860
they're copying the talent system and added fountains
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>>162458860
they added talents over at dota 2
hots has talents
thus, dota 2 = hots now, or something
also monkey king looks cute
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>>162459008
Well, their talent system is like, super safe. Just stat boni and minor changes at most, there's no difference in builds, so to say, from these talents.
Also, massive respawn time increases similar to HotS. Fast if you die early, enough time to take a piss if you die level 20+.

Basically, they're changing it away from the shitty format into our good format. With baby steps.
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>>162458860
The game is literally copying LoL and HotS even more now
Also Icefrog apparently quit
Dota is gonna be dead within 2 years
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>>162411472
Are you going after my heal slut title? All supports to 10 with all there master skins
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>>162459839
>Dota
>dead
I won't believe till I see it, but it'd be glorious
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>>162458860
lmao dota2g is on suicide watch
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>>162459541
Gee, it's almost as if Blizzard was the better developer all along.
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>>162458860
did they got rid of the close camera yet?
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>Not first picking Kerrigan on infernal shrines

What are you, some sort of casual?
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>>162461813
>Mengsk
>Overmind

Koreanbro knows new heroes?
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>No one in NA plays the guy with automatic AOE root at level 16

WHY
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>>162461813
I just noticed Mengsk is fishing Jimmy's hairpiece off.
>>162461963
Pretty sure that's just supposed to be a Starcraft 1 spread. I mean, there's Tassadar Allahu Ackbar-ing into the Overmind there.
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>>162462075
something something arthas sucks
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what happened to our drawfag?
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>>162462920

hes laughing atm at Dota2 general
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is there ever any point in casting Li Li's W if you aren't dumping talents into it

seems like a complete waste of mana if you aren't 100% dragon build
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>>162462920
I await his glorious return
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>>162463492
that one too, but i was talking about the doodly drawfag
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>>162463445
no it is still worth, noob
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>>162463445
Why would you not place it on your tank when going into a teamfight, same as Rehgar's W

what's wrong with you
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>>162463492
this is f*king gay, kill yourself
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>>162463625
which one? the one who did the rehgar degenerates one?
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>>162463956
Yes, that one
did he ever come back?
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>>162463445
It's worth a cast, but not as important as your blinding winds. Those can do some serious damage
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>>162464113
YOUR MOTHER HATES YOU
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>>162464113
i think he did some planetside stuff and vanished after
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>dota will have talents

is it time to panic? should we expect a massive playerbase leak?
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>>162464505
nah, we should expect dota players to leak into our game. they are the ones copying us, after all...
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>>162464505
a massive playerbase leak requires a massive playerbase anon
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Just played this games tutorial,want that genji skin. any NA players willing to add me or should I go fuck myself? BT: Smokemeth420 #1618
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>>162464505
makes want to play dota again after 4 years. but now i remember babysitting, no alternate maps, and lack of objectives. hots has me spoiled
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why is Johanna allowed to exist in this game in the state she's in
>>
>>162465686
because she's the only reliable counter to a lot of bullshit heroes that are far worse than her, that you probably use considering you're the only person i've seen complaining about her in the past year
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Is Samuro really OP/ first ban material?

Sure he's annoying but he has no sustain
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>5 minutes for """"quick""" match
>5+ minutes for unranked queue
>almost 10 minutes for ranked queue

it hurts
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>>162465931
people below master, maybe diamond really suck at spotting the real one plus they waste all their skills on the clones.
also samuro is legit viable on a few maps.
in general you want to ban samuro and varian to stop your own retards from picking them.
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>>162465931
first ban so he doesn't appear on my team
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>>162465931
No, he's just the new hotness that most scrubs don't know how to counter. Lately I've been seeing Varian get the first ban honors even though he's nowhere near overpowered enough to be first ban material.
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>>162466236
>in general you want to ban samuro and varian to stop your own retards from picking them.
I'd rather ban Nova and Zeratul then. Seen far more retards pick those and completely ruin games than Samuro and Varian.
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>tychusfag ruining what could've been a perfect greenskin meme comp

why are tychus players such insufferable faggots?
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>>162466543
>not even infested Tychus
Fuck, that guy is a faggot.
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>>162465931
samuro IS strong, if you know what to do
if you sneak into enemy backline he can take off half hp bar of any squishy and get away easily. you dont fucking stay in a fight with him (unless your team has a massive advange because of a quick kill or 2-3 lvs lead)
just as 90% of the roster he is great in/against the right composition
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>>162465931
he is unkillable if you know how to play
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>>162466441
nobody picks zeratul and nova because the community wasted months to shit on everyone who did.
samuro and varian are fairly new and need a lot more shitposting.
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>>162466751
nova and zeratul are WAY harder to play decently and are magnets to retards who can't land a single skilshot/void prison/blink
all samuro has to do to be a (small) problem to the enemy team is push E, right click on one of the frail guys and press Q.
that's retard proof
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It seems like Malf, ETC, and sylvanas on some maps are the best first bans but everyone gets mad if you don't ban Samuro first
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>>162466650
Infested is gross tho

Vanilla Tychus is based
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>shitter picks stitches against a dive comp
>calls entire team bad when he can't stop them from gibbing our entire backline

stitches is bad and so is anyone who picks him
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>>162444363
>actually bronze

not sure i believe it

>>162444501
they don't really ban people in hots, unless you flame the shit out of people in every game
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>>162417047
Always have a crit ready , use illusions to push a lane or dodge before 10, take IM and use it for jukes, dive deep while sending an illusion back and escape with it, or micro one to burn a CC, then go in
Play like old zera
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>>162466751
>keep seeing early zeratul picks
>they always lose
>huh wonder what changed
>check popular tier lists
>Zeratul S tier for solo queue

i feel lost
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>teammate picks tracer
>does less damage than our uther

why did they give every retard this hero for free
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>>162469419

I can't stand the majority of Zarya players too.
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>>162469419
when did they give tracer away?
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>>162467210

Malph seems bannable on everything. His base abilities feel a little too strong.
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>>162468974
>tier lists
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>>162470495
>Malphurion
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>>162470352

She comes free with the collector's edition of Overwatch, or something. Pretty much the 20 dollars extra.

>>162470821

It's nice to have an idea of what everybody thinks is good.
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>>162462075
You're not alone anon
Arthas is the only hero I have past 10
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>>162470495
>rock solid
>>
I always argued that hots design was a step forward for this genre and im glad that dota 2 is actually trying to be more than a warcraft 3 dota clone now

that being said im not going back to last hitting or items, they are archaic and inferior
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>>162471841
>not going back to last hitting or items, they are archaic and inferior
>tfw friend told me to come play hots its better then league/dota
>was silver in league for three seasons
>master in hots
>says last hitting doesn't make game harder its just "archaic"
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>>162472157
>one person means anything
>a league player having anything useful input
kek
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>>162472157
>hots better then league/dota
>then

nvm maybe i'm just retarded
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>>162462075
most people cant get past the blizzcon loot bag frostmourne
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>>162472335
>check back on hots to see if it has gone anywhere
>hotsg still dead
>reddit still dead circlejerk
>3k views on twitch, half as many as poker
>real mobas have 100k+

uh maybe next year it'll catch on
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>queueing for hl
>someone picks illidan
>last pick sonya solo tank
>illidan DCs on loading
>sonya and thrall bicker all match while she feeds
>top all stats and lose horribly

what did i do to deserve this?
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>>162472820
eSports is a disaster.

>>162472934
HL is a trap.
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>>162472820
why do you think browder got moved away from the team
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>last pick is muted
>oh boy here we go
>picks brightwing and does the absolute bare minimum to not be disconnected for inactivity
>does 3 times trying to solo boss
>laugh at him in chat knowing he can't respond
>doesn't even try to add me after match to talk shit

SHAMEFUL
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>>162472934
>caring about the outcome of ranked

might've found the problem, although people all have their own way of dealing

>>162473285
just feels like wow pvp all over again
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Anyone up for duo in ranked for the chal? I don't have any friends ;_;
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>>162473723
literally just got into a game, US or EU?
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I will never ever get out of Bronze league with these teammates. Why try?
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>>162472820
people like you are weird and sad

are you like 16? have you never played video games before there was twitch or esports?

shit man I was a dotard all throughout highschool we even skipped class to play that game, we had no clue about esports or anything like that and just played what we enjoyed

this is exactly why im playing this game, because im having a lot of fun, a lot more than I ever did in warcraft 3 dota or any other game in the genre actually

when I started playing I had no good thoughts about it and I wasnt crazy about the graphics either, I was also burned out of the genre hardcore and this game is still fresh and fun

also it has the advantage that dotards stay away from it, so the community isn't THAT salty and toxic
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>>162473792
EU.
Oh well I don't think i'll manage to do enough games anyway, too much work.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pek_GPzHKM
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>>162474168
queue with people vs AI

average game time is 2minutes 30 seconds if you keep pushing to core with a sgt hammer and a sylvanas
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>>162474191
Is DeadlyKitty some default name or something?
I've got a battlenet friend by that name and I see a guy named DeadlyKitty in matches every fucking week.
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Nova players are the fucking scum of the earth. Every single Nova I've had on my team today did fucking nothing but go for kills, and sometimes deliberately ran away from the objective even when it was free, just to go and get another pick. Why won't they remove this piece of shit hero once and for all?
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>>162473959
>people like you are weird and sad
>i skipped school to play vidya
hm

>community isn't salty/toxic
the people who play hots are weird desu had a guy threaten to afk if anybody was toxic about his gazlowe pick

sure enough when he died to a tower 40 seconds of the game and was asked about it he said something about toxic teammates and how he was going to mute/report
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why give heros mana if you arent going to make every hero require mana?
why add that restriction? i'd tolerate it more if mana regend at a higher level but as it is i get into fights and cant fight back after a minute meanwhile auriel can full heal themself and a tracer while cho'gall is pounding me with their big ogre dick making all the work i do to try and whittle them down pointless
>>
convince me to not reinstall
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>>162474670
>muh anti-fun
>muh constant action

>>162474645
to be fair killing heroes is sort of her thing, which leads people to tunnel in on the 30% falstad they have no hope of catching
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>>162474664
>he never skipped school to have fun with friends

I'm happy you grew up in an awesome school system with amazing teachers!

>>162474816
not enough rule 34
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>>162474816
what caused you to originally uninstall
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>>162473843
We can literally see your Gold portrait you imbecile

Congratulations on whatever you think you are worth congratulating for. Now isntead of a cherry pciekd game why don't you post your next 4 games whatever the result?
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>>162474993
I played sc1 and unreal tournament in my school. Didn't even bother with the skipping part. Just signed up for all the tech classes.
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FUCK CHROME

FUCK THIS BUSTED PIECE OF SHIT

HOW IS IT EVEN REMOTELY BALANCED FOR HER TO FUCKING DELETE ME FROM AN ENTIRE SCREEN AWAY
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>>162473523
>Unranked Draft

I care even less than if you had said Quick Match.
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>>162475552
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>>162475749
why did you stand still?
learn to stutter step
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>>162468974
tier list assume something of a high, equal skill cap being attained. idiots don't understand that part and just jump on zera like it's old zagara or li ming with not a lot to learn and expect a free ride up ranks, without being something like nova (stealth finishing,) etc (good vp usage,) and illidan (especially rewind) all in one they are usually useless. they'll have the "pro" build and be getting a crash course in all at once rather than taking a safe waveclear/camping build to just worry about vp first.

>>162474816
blizzard balance. everyone hates your favorite characters. drama>>>>>>>>>rewards. the to intelligent for dota community. so many reasons.
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>>162475749
literally walk erratically
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>>162476815
Yeah, which almost makes the lists pointless, because it's usually low MMR that follow them so religiously.

>smurf placements, low silver
>neat lets play azmodan
>all four players immediately tilted off face of planet
>insists he doesn't fit the comp

Seems like he'd be good down there, where you can just E towers, forts and keeps for free.
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>>162476901
>>162476271
>just dodge the spear...
wow, who would have thunk it
its not unbalanced if it can be dodged, even though the one time it does hit it can instagib you
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>>162477792
haha shitter!
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>>162475552
I dont even have to respond.

Anon here pretty much summed up my reaction
>>162476230
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>>162474816
report system is retarded and abused, people gets silenced and banned from any ranked game for no reason
matchmaking and the "ladder" system is beyond pathetic and many diamond players are just as shitty as silver ones (mostly because everyone knows you can abuse AI games to get retardly high mmr and get into diamond 3 effortlessy so there are a lot of shitters' smurf in diamond)

is this enough?
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>>162478242
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how do i play li ming
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>>162479040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEqE7i7xLQ0
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>>162468040
>shitter picks alarak against a dive comp
>misses every silence and dives into 1v5s
>blames everyone else on his team but himself

Alarak is so bad
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>>162473843
Could be worse.
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>>162480143
>zeratul and kinky beetle into kael'thas and chromer

spooky
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>>162474191
what a cancer
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>>162479746
Wow. I didn't think there'd be a hots-related video as cringe as this.
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>>162479746
stop same fagging this shit, it's bad and unfunny.
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>162481381
arthas a shitter
and his model sucks too
>>
i don't like fighting that zagara zerg hero
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>>162477792
>>162475749
chromie is one of the easiest heroes to counter and play against
literally git gud
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>>162482526
If at least one other teammate is working with you, per teammate actively working with Chromie.
>>
What's with the sudden meme of "Chromie is hard"? It's been known since day one she's niche at absolute best. Even then, she's overall known to be shit.
>>
>>162481582
You mean the Hydralisk?
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>>162483617
whichever one spawns the banelings and other zerg

and it is worse when they get that zerg abathur too

i can't go anywhere without some shit hitting me
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>Braxis
>monk
>kael(me)
>murky
>zagara
>kerrigan
vs
>zeratul
>tracer
>samuro
>tassadar
>le superstition man that takes no spell damage at all

It's even possible to win this? What would you do in this situation?
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>>162483731
>murky
literal joke character. Maybe good a year ago, but ???? now

>kael
wait until after his buff
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>>162483492

idk what was with that one guy who thought twin blades varian was good

>>162481582
should've seen her old W it did about as much damage as her

>come into her lane
>get immediately chased out of it by her and flappy zerg thing
>try to trade when she has W up
>lose and/or die
>eats your towers and/or fort
>>
>>162483731
meme nydus on zag, permanent splitpushing, assassins+monk death squad roaming from top to bottom, only try objective if you cna catch stragglers trying to solo or duo cap a shrine

hope samuro and zera are shit
>>
Has Gazlowe been picked in a pro game at all in the last six months?
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>>162483986
Twin Blades was so good that it's getting nerfed hard next patch.

Makes you think.
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>>162484158
>shrine
I think you mean beacon, friend!
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>>162484320

at what mmr was it a problem

the only thing he seemed to have going for him was the point-click stun on a six second cd
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>it's another "Oh, you wanna enjoy a quick match of Kerrigan? Here, let me give your enemies Tracer, Li-Ming, Valla, Zeratul and Artanis. Oh, and you get a silenced MasterSkin Nova." episode

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD, FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT FUCK YOUR GOD DAMN ATROCIOUS FUCKING FAGGOT MATCHMAKING.
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>>162481472
That's obviously Leoric ya goober.
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>>162484885
>that pic

i like dis

i miss the bees
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>>162484692
The retarded self heal from heroic strike, because in pubs getting even one blind or stun is a nigh impossible task with all those Valla/Illidan/Abathur first pickers.
Oh, and the stun is now on a 8 second cooldown. Not what -I- wanted, because the charge remains absolutely useless outside of taking warbringer. 16s cooldown is just toooooooo long.
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>match with a guy
>he first pick tychus
>always die alone
>out of position
>engage like shit

>report him for feed
>all the team tells him he is a shitter
>he blame malf for not doing enough damages (for real)
>report this guy for feeding

>search a new game
>matched with the same retard
why blizzard do not add them to a blacklist for a few days ?
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>>162485182
>stun Varian once for 1-1.5 secs

wow now he can only heal back up to 75% instead of 100%, what a difference
>>
>>162485446
because no one cares about you blog
>>
>>162485446
Because Blizzard matchmaking is literally the worst in the world. If Bad Rats had matchmaking, it would be better.
>>
>>162485671
>>162485671
>>162485671
new bread
migrate whenever
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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