/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #102

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SPACE ADVENTURE!

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reminder

Starfarer wreckage video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf82U5Tx0x8

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>letting the old thread die
I was so lost without a place to shitpost.

is the cockpit made out of different materials that don't rust?

>>162029462
it's the guts, not rust. the armour plating got blown off.

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>>162029462
bler
>>162029573
everywhere but the cockput got hit?

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>>162029462
Why would rusting be a concern in space unless you're planetside often?

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Caterpillar Turrets

Higher quality gif because of 4chan Jew filesize limit

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>>162030013
nigger do you even webm??
regardless, where did the gatlan come from? have seen other vids of it firing and it was lasers, supposed to be m3a's pretty sure. don't recognize those guns at all.

>>162030013
lol .gif

get with the times grampa

>>162030013

I wan to put those on my Starfarer.

>>162030013
>That gif quality

I didn't even think that was from SC at first. Looked like a cutscene from Star Ship Titanic.

>>162031112
>>162030353

I lifted this shit straight off of plebbit motherfuckers I didn't make the gif

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>>162028615

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1 week, commando!

Who /star marine every day/ here?

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>>162023760

>>162032008
VISION

>>162032239
Vision is strong.

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>>162030353
>>162031370
those are the S4 APAR gatling guns from the vanguard. Revenant I think its called.

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Carrack a shit, herald for crusty socked Nerds and sabre about to be BTFO.

All you're shipus a shit, and your waifu too.

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>>162037407
fuck me.

>>162037563
>using 2014 3DS Max
well at least we know their money isnt going to Autodesk

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>>162037260

>>162037563
literally looks like LoD

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Javelin is probably bigger than any ship I'll ever have, but boy does it have a nice ass.

I doubted too, when I first saw the concept art of it I though it was gonna look like shit.

>>162037563
Fucking christ, it's massive now (notice the dude standing by the nose). Have they added a second floor to it or something? Why the fuck is it so big?

>>162039708
>>162039708
its still a kitbash of old and new bits, dimensions will change around more.

>>162039175
The trick to owning a Javelin is to find someone that has it and wait until they park it. Then board and murder his npc crew and fly off with it.

Of course, eventually, the same will inevitably happen to you. The secret is that there is only one Javelin in the game and it changes owners via grand theft spaceship.

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>>162039924
Im sure something like a javelin you'll be able to secure in a spacedock. The safe bet is that anything purchaseable to for real money can be securely stored while you're offline. Hell a javelin might even just pop out of existence when all its crew logs of the way that smaller ships will. I wouldn't count on that(starside safe logout) for anything you can buy with real money I would count that you could park it on the docking arm of a space station and have it "stored" safely until your next session.

>>162041108
>Log out
>Only your NPC crew remains behind
>Someone boards and defeats your NPC crew
>You lose your javelin

I would die of laughter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQKgpm1SJmQ

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>>162041108
**wouldnt count on that(in flight logout) for anything labeled as a capital ship, but there will certainly be some way to make safe a ship that someone payed thousands of dollars for. Even as a prospective whaler I'm certain there will be some level of security for them, and rightly so, game where you can lose everything while offline(lookin at you rust) inevitably implode and the only people who ever "win" them or stick with them long term are the poop sockiest of the poopsockers.

Being exposed to risk 24/7 whether you're playing or not is just not a fun mechanic, its a stress inducing time capturing mechanic and I just dont think CIG is going to go that direction.

That level of risk will likely only bne associated with the "Org only" level of ships like Pegasus, Cruisers, BCs/BBs and other "capture only" type fleet ships.

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>tfw sc whales buy ships to feed real whales

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>>162041325
It would be hilarious if it happened to someone like dogmiral or some other "muh captaincy" dad. But it would also really chill the prevalence of caps in the game world, if there was no way to secure them short of 24/7 manning and flight no ones going to use them except for the very largest orgs who can maintain a crew 24/7/365 and that will be an extremely short list of orgs.

We explicitly dont want everyone flying a cap ship, but I do think that any org with 15-20 regulars should have a reasonable opportunity to get into that game without it just being a matter of time until some bigger, more addicted group finds their hidey hole and steals their ship while they sleep.

What would be entirely plausilble and possible in my estimation is that Caps might persist after you log out, but you can log them locked down and inaccessible to a station. They're still there and can be damaged, but for legal/NPC gaurd purposes they are part of the station and damaging them will result in a Police/Navy/Militia response.

>>162041909
Yes, I'm just having a laugh at the idea of assholes losing their shit. I certainly wouldn't think that's good game design though. If you are >>162041464 with your mention of Rust, I can imagine that would be shit. or hell, even Ark. I've seen videos of people losing shit they worked hours to build to some faggot stomping around with a T Rex while they were logged out. It would be a entertaining mechanic at first, but then it would get old quickly with everyone being constantly terrified of their shit being stolen.

>>162042128
yeah, both me.

And thats exactly why I stopped playing both rust and ark. Everything you gather everything you build and everything you plan can be ruined by one asshat in one night for no reason other than he was bored and felt like breaking someone elses toys.

Im all for real risk in vidya, but I prefer my real risk to be when I am actually playing the vidya.

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bumpity.

>>162045585
/scg/ would rather die than be bumped by a dumb anime poster. nobody cares about /edg/'s opinion.

>>162028878
xenomorphs when

>>162028878
Can anyone explain what the big crosshair represents?

The little one is the center of the screen, and I know the circle thing represents what way you're moving towards. So what's the other one?

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>>162046167
>it's not on topic.

>>162046895
I ***think*** its point of impact for fire given present velocity.

so how do I trick the patcher into downloading the PTU files?
or is this plebbit guide retarded

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Apparently tomorrow will be the first evocati patch with the "full" flight changes. So we'll get to see just how fucking dull and joyless dogfighting will really be

>>162048327
>So we'll get to see just how fucking dull and joyless dogfighting will really be

Don't care really. I plan to a be a space trucker. The 360noscope crowd can go find some other game to fuck up with their neverending whining.

>>162048327
>So we'll get to see just how fucking dull and joyless dogfighting will really be

From everything I've heard, i'm expecting something similar to Starlancer/Freelancer. I'm not worried.

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>>162046895
very curious about this myself, first noticed it in vid related; doesn't seem to align with either velocity nor where the gun is pointed, so I have no idea what it could be.

>>162046895
The square ish circle with the dot is your cursor. It's how you aim gimbals. The diamond/circles that extend from your cursor or targeted ship is your predictive aim point.

>>162048327
Cruise mode requiring boost fuel might be a good change,not sure why they halved SCM speed though

>>162048808
so you can actually see what you're firing at; the huge disparity in scm speeds currently means most combat happens at the very edge of weapon range and well beyond visible range, rather than having anything resembling dogfights happen

>>162048738
Oh, fuck me, you're taking about eva. Pretty sure that's a cross hair projected by the gun itself. It moves as the gun wiggles.

>>162049063
It doesn't seem to follow the gun movement too closely at all though, see >>162048673 for an example.

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post NEETcaves

>>162028878
>look through optic
>eyes zoom the entire world
It's like CIG isn't even trying.

>>162050639
I hope they fix that retarded ladder in the cat command pod so I can neet in the lower half

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Anniversary Livestream confirmed for the 16th

>>162052414
we already had an anniversary livestream?

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>>162052585
I meant the Christmas Livestream

>>162052414
>>162052635
Go home Agent you're drunk

>>162048673
At a guess, looks like an indicator of which way you're thrusting.

Not your current vector, but rather where your current thrust will change your vector to.

WEEK 49. Almost there...

Greetings Citizens!

While many folks here are busily preparing for the upcoming release of Alpha 2.6 and our Holiday Livestream next Friday, December 16th, we've got 2016's last episodes of Around the Verse and Reverse the Verse this week, originating from our Austin studio for your enjoyment. Friday also brings the November Monthly Report and our Weekly Newsletter, where you'll learn even more about Star Citizen's continuing development.

Also: check back tomorrow for the precise time of this week's RTV once we've nailed that down.

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>>162032008
Then buy another space sim, there's a few out these days.
Here's a few up-and-coming games.
Starpoint Gemini Warlords
http://store.steampowered.com/app/419...
StarMade
http://star-made.org/
Infinity: Battlescape
https://www.inovaestudios.com/battles...
Helium Rain
http://helium-rain.com/
Space Engineers
http://www.spaceengineersgame.com/
The Mandate
http://www.mandategame.com/
Dual Universe
http://www.dualthegame.com/
Star Citizen (but you knew this already)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/
No Man’s Sky (if it ever gets off the ground)
http://www.no-mans-sky.com/

There's also EVE Valkyrie and assorted Star Wars games, do shop around instead of treating this as"A vs B" when you have C, D, E, F, G, etc. to take in to consideration.
Or you could get A and C, and later get E just for larks.

>>162053925
Fuck off Ben.

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>>162029573 >>162029651
It's not rust, but it could also be scavenged

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>>162032008
For me that's why I didn't buy Elite.
Because I will always have the doubt that I need an expansion pack to have what the game was supposed to be.

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>>162039924
> murder his npc crew and fly off with it.
Only if you have a similar army made of players or npc

I love how people play a barebone alpha and conveniently forget that most NPC are intentionally made weak and stupid to give human a chance.

It will be fun seeing players go on a mission against sandnigger and discovers they can't go rambo
What if Chris Robert troll us and add AI in Star Marines and they win ?

>>162041909 >>162042128
Actually everybody want to be able fly a capital ship alone.
That's completely separate from making capital ship too specialized and costly to see everywhere (and don't forget jump gate size).
I'm surprised so many people don't get it. You'll still want to fly a Freelancer even when you can afford an Idris and its npc crew.

From what I know the plan is not to let players ship get destroyed while you are out as it would just be unfair.
Just like you won't need a guild to pay continuously the salary of your npc. It's been confirmed in some 10 FTC

The exception are prize ship like the Bengal carrier. Those are the one meant for Orgs. You can't buy them, only salvage them, capture them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/scleaks/comments/5gy05t/want_to_play_26_offline_now_you_can/

>>162031487
it's literally only /scg/ it's basically an insider meme at this point

>>162054140
>There's also EVE Valkyrie
Horrid reviews, shitty everything, dont touch with a thousand yard poll

CCP are shit tier developers and cant be trusted

>>162054140
>http://www.dualthegame.com/
>WoW tab target combat
Pfhtahhahaha. Wow. And people use this as an example of 'SC is going to have thousands of players in one area!'

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>Chris Smith remakes the Hornet
>I'm not allowed to have it

>>162056620
>From what I know the plan is not to let players ship get destroyed while you are out as it would just be unfair.

What did he mean by this

>>162061478
> Tab targeting with hundreds of targets

WAKE ME UP

>>162049109
Huh, now that I look closer at it, on my computer and not my damn phone, there's actually 3 crosshairs. The static center, the one projected off the gun, and a slightly more transparent but much bigger one. No idea what that 3rd one is.

>>162063090
jesus lad

1 is the direction of movement
2 is the direction your head is facing
3 is the direction the barrel of your weapon is facing.

movement of all 3 crosshairs is potentially seperate and you see that mainly in zero g unless you are strafing sideways

>>162050841
you forgot

>shoots
>sprays randomly

>>162050841
>It's like CIG isn't even trying.
Does CIG give a shit flowchart:

Is it a jpeg?
if yes; shits given
if no; is it a ship that "needs" a remake to be sold again

if yes; shits given
if no; no shits given

Im sure this is posted up on their walls somewhere

>>162063830
>Responding to a 6 hour old post because of your need to shit on CIG for some autistic thing every FPS does

>>162063919
>autistic thing every FPS does
Most FPS games these days have proper scopes so no

Also its a fucking general not a /v/ thread, no one gives a shit about how long the age of a post is

So, someone with a good idea of how the game will actually be when it's open-beta forever (let's not pretend it'll ever be "done")

Are they going to EVE-esque grind times, where an actual non-shit ship takes a year+ to obtain?

>>162063967
>Most FPS games these days have proper scopes so no

Uh, no, very few games do proper PiP.

>>162064124
>where an actual non-shit ship takes a year+ to obtain?

excuse me?

>>162064124
>EVE-esque grind times, where an actual non-shit ship takes a year+ to obtain?
Complete opposite, its going to be little grind which is going to kill the game in its own way

I honestly dont think the game will have enough sand in its box to survive long term from gameplay, its going to turn into a themepark running generic missions in hugbox settings.

>>162064269
>its going to be little grind which is going to kill the game in its own way

theorycraft level: Mjölnir, hammer of headcanon

>>162064351
>implying the carebears will want to work for anything
Hohohhoohhohoho

>>162064535
E:D is a great example of carebears working tirelessly for excessive periods of time for rewards, or even nothing at all.

>>162064124
Yes, probably.

A guy who works with Ben who is director of ships was talking to some tranny and mentioned that they thought 30million UEC was a fair price to buy a Polaris ship.

Let's consider, their pricing has always been roughly $1 = 1000 UEC. The ship itself was like $725.

So, in-game, technically it would have cost 725,000 UEC to buy one, for your org to use. A typical mission reward in the PU is currently 1000 UEC, meaning that it would take a player 725 missions in order to afford one. A mission such as turning on a broken communication satellite which will take a few minutes total.

But you see, shit devs like to add grind to their games, to take away fun. They tell backers that they will have fun, and then they throw in generic stupid shit in their game to ruin it. Namely, trying to simulate an economy.

So, how is it reasonable, or fair, to take a 725,000 UEC ship, and charge 30,000,000 UEC for it? 41x the USD value.

That's essentially going to force 10,000 member orgs to have to pool their resources to buy them, leaving the 10 member orgs as 2nd class citizens. Only retards want grind in their games, they've just been brainwashed to accept it.

>>162064653
ED has forumdads, not carebears

It is a distinct difference in age

>>162064664
Basing anything on whats in Crusader of all things is fucking hilarious.

Would it make you extra mad to know that equipment is meant to be several times the value of the hull?

>>162064664
>A typical mission reward in the PU is currently 1000 UEC
We have what are literally tutorial missions, not real missions.

>>162064760
I don't appreciate having to browse a thread full of your shitposts without even finding a single argument in them. Can't you just surprise me for once?

Please use the basis of UEC and USD for ship pricing for the last 4 years as being constant, to form an argument.

>>162064881
Just because you've used it for a long time doesn't make it accurate or a useful metric.

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"This ship jpg is literally worth 30,000 USD" - Ben Lesnick, ship director

>>162065179
>fins
>FINS
>FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS

>>162065272
You mean
>turrets

Turrets were a mistake.

>>162065356
Yeah, they should have focused more on subsystems and logistics than 'crew' just being guys in turrets

>>162061129
>>162061478
Then don't buy EVE Valkyrie/Dual Universe, shop around instead of whinging about how how they're doing it wrong buy the game you feel is right.
Google is your friend.

>>162065681
You missed your stop for a hugbox faggot >>>/r/eddit

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>what's your adventure going to be
>i'm going to climb in to someone's ship and fly backwards as a gunner and hope the pilot doesn't joust people like a retard

>>162065681
>You cant talk about video games that people talk about in comparison to SC here on this board dedicated to video games unless its positive cos it hurts my feelings :(
Please kill yourself

>>162065745
It's okay if you don't have any valid argument or comment, don't force yourself to shitpost.

>>162065874
I had a valid argument, you ignored it and bitched people cant talk about games here

Back to your containment board >>>/r/eddit

>>162065874
>I dont like your opinion so its invalid!
Valkyrie is shit. Get the fuck over it.

>>162065829
No hurt feelings here.
I'm just confused by the constant, self-entilted chidlish perma-anger.
Do you also go to a pizzaria and complain that they don't make sushi, and then demand, childishly they beging making sushi instead?

>>162066000
>food analogy
Oh, you're shitposting. Got it.

>>162065906
Nah you didn't kiddo.
>>162065993
I don't care about EVE, or SC for that matter - but I don't whine like a PMS sticken teenage girl about it. I focus on what I do like.
You know, like an adult.

>>162066085
>Nah you didn't kiddo.

>Comparing SC and Duel Universe makes sense even though one has proper combat and one is using tab targetting!
Uh, huh.

Sounds like you're just retarded. No more replies for you.

>>162066075
>I can't understand parable
When you grow up a bit you'll understand.

>>162066085
You're the worst troll iv seen on /scg/ for ages, please return to where you belong >>>/r/eddit

>>162066165
>weh weh my entitlement isn't understood.
Baby

>>162066252
>he doesn't agree with me, he's a troll
Aww kiddo.

>>162066192
Not that anon, but you clearly are the one that doesn't know what parable means if you think your pizzeria analogy was a spiritual lesson

BREAKING NEWS:
/scg/ cabin fever at all time high, 2.6 cannot come soon enough, more news in 9 days.

>>162066516
Probably an "adjustment", pushed back another 2 weeks.

>>162066583

90 days tops.

>>162066683
High-level inside sources.
E-L-E.
High-level resignations.
You can still get a refund!
2.6 does not even contain Star Marine yet!
Damn, i'm bored of waiting.

>>162052414
chris, the absolute madman

>>162066583
You know, I think people are looking at these dates in the wrong way.

We shouldn't be looking at them as an actual schedule that will be met, but more as a deadline goal.

This is their internal schedule, so in a way, this is the timeline that would be met if everything went perfectly, the times that the devs are working toward, like a deadline, but a bit more flexible.

If you say "well, then take those times and add two weeks on to them to allow for hangups" then that two week later date is what the individual workers would aim for, pace themselves at, and eventually miss.

I predict at minimum one more week added.

In October we were expecting 2.6 in November and 3.0 in December.

Then croberts said in November it will be 2-3 months between each patch.

Now we're in December with no 2.6.

So from October to December, we haven't had a single patch, and this has effectively added another 3 months on to the development of Star Citizen.

>>162066870
Who knows. 2.6 has already had 2x 1 week pushbacks? Could be more to come.
Though, they're doing the live stream on the 16th, so I guess they're pretty confident 2.6 will be out by that deadline too.

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>>162066973
>croberts

>>162066973
>and this has effectively added another 3 months on to the development of Star Citizen.

No, not at all.

>>162067130

How is the beer not dissolving? How is able to ingest the beer? Why bother with the cooler? Why is the Earth so big? How did an object that large not be detected and the astronaut know about it before that moment?

>>162067231
These are all good questions, I will submit them for next 10ftc.

>>162067218
If you think 3.0 will be here before March I think you're delusional. That's ~3 months away.

>>162067327
One team being behind doesn't put all teams 3 months behind.

>3.0 in march

k

>>162065356
it's so easy to fix them though if they stay the way they are by the time major cap ships come around i'd be very suprised

also 3.0 will make them playable as they are, they still need refining

Is Star Citizen an actual game yet or is it still a shittily optimized tech demo?

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MULTI CREW FUCKING WHEN

>>162066973
The entire of all the studios haven't been working on just 2.6. A lot of them have been on 3.0 stuff, which they are keeping under wraps like they did with 2.0.

>>162067678

We may get Squadron 42 (since that what was really cared about) at some point but "Star Citizen" will remain a shittily optimized tech demo when Croberts runs out of money. He will keep his studios and such and reform under a new company.

>>162067678
Define "actual game"

>>162067678
Pre-Pre-Pre alpha until 2018 earliest

definition of game is all you

>>162052414
Video Source od pic?

We should put this in the OP

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

>>162068821
not sure I think gamescom? one of many recap montages from an event

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>>162061478
>http://www.dualthegame.com/
Just to point the drive home : Star Citizen developer NEVER said to expect more than 100 players. Both for technical reasons and by design choice.

>>162064124
(pict related)
Star Citizen is not being made with vertical progression in mind. "non shit" ship will be only dependent of what you use it for, and how, plus some custom equipments.
Same, for Capital ship which are not the next level in whatever they do, for example they can't cross smaller size of jump points.

I mention this because Grind is often the only way to slow players progression in a poorly made game. But CR is against "unfun grind" and often mentioned that you'd typically use cargo-ship to get money for the next ship, so you are expected to have several ships.

If we can trust the developers the game is meant to keep you in the game by the sheer quality and attention do details, not by doing the same things over and over again (they don't procedurally generate gigantic city, they handcraft the best one)
https://youtu.be/qKH1B1p9TgM?t=1124

>try ships in 2.6
>tons of shit still broken
>mustang beta is almost unusable because it doesnt let you crouch as soon as you get. gotta spin around and hope it lets you through
>retaliators upside down turrets are still fucked
>getting in the "ship" thats in the back of the constellation andromeda crashes the game
>the interior of the 85x is fucked up and the bottom is all transparent
>caterpillar has an entire section blocked off below the cockpit because of an invisible wall after you go down the ladder
>the menus to change weapon groups within the cockpit are all fucked and make all weapons be part of all weapon groups
pretty shitty to be honest. the only good thing is that they fixed the camera of the turret inside the hornet F7CM's 2nd seat

>>162070267
>they fixed the camera of the turret inside the hornet F7CM's 2nd seat
AWWWWW YEAH

>>162070267
>it's a "2.6 offline exploit = evocati/ptu 2.6" episode

>>162068821
it's one of the vids regarding the making of either gamescom demo or citcon

road to citcon im pretty sure

>>162070267
>>162070754
And thus the reason for Evocati, then PTU, then Live was demonstrated.
I wish this community could cull people who don't understand that everything is WIP, all the time.

>>162070104

100 players is stupid. 100 ships is better. People inside of an Idris or Javelin don't need to know what is going on outside in full fidelity unless they are on a turret or on the bridge.

>>162071506
Except in the hundreds of cases where they would.

>>162071640

Explain further

>>162071506
pretty sure the limits they always talk about are in fact by ships not players.

>>162071006
what i mean is that the offline exploit version of the game is missing core aspects of the actual evocati version that forces all the bugs being showcased in these offline exploit videos. those are core bugs that would never have made it past devs into evocati at this stage of development, theyre playing a false example of the evocati build and all of it needs to be taken with a big ol pile of salt

>>162071506
>unless they are on a turret or on the bridge.

On quite a few of the ships, this basically covers everyone par maintenance guys.

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>>162067723
I mean you kind of lived up to your promise but your insecurity still made you bring up SC again

>>162073119
It's meant to bring up SC in a way that infers that EDfags are always mentioning how their game is at least released, not to shit on SC directly.

The ancapball is meant to symbolize the person, in this case the EDfag

>>162071640
How, the only thing they need to know is the health of the ship components and for boarders to start being rendered when they get near entryways
Those players don't need to be updated about the Aurora doing a flyby

>>162023760
so is this a gross exageration or accurate?

>>162073670
go watch current day ED gameplay and try telling yourself with a straight face that any of it's trailers represent how intense, actiony, and player-filled the game is

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>>162073670

Anon that posted that link, I am not brave enough to pay for Elite: Dangerous to find out if that video is true. I don't even want to pirate the game to find out either. Pic related, a game I would rather play.

>>162074550
>I don't even want to pirate the game to find out either.

You can't pirate it, its always-online.

>>162073670
I believe the guy deliberately chose one of the notoriously longest entry-to-station transits to make the video with, that said, pretty sure it is in fact a real-time video of the distance one must travel to get to that particular station

>>162074670
You can pirate anything. There are, and probably still are, private WoW servers. Just no one wants to bother with Elite Dangerous.

>>162073670
Anon that played 120 hours of ED in a week.
It's accurate.

>>162074952
autism.

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>>162071506
I only quoted what was promised exactly, and they said Players per Instance.
For big ship instance see :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2K1CH22SF8#t=9m37s
But a players bandwidth will die if there is 100 ships who need to exchange a lot of heavy packet in a timely fashion, that's make the difference between smooth game and ragequit due to poor framerate.

I finally found a source about that 1000 players claim, a "potentially 1000 all in the same sort of area" that you are free to overhype or take with a grain of salt since they are clearly not sure themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvule1cD_zk&feature=youtu.be&t=28m

>>162071776
The game boast being able to go out of ship at any time and play FPS. Put 3 Prowler in an Idris, each full of players and you already have enough to fill several of our current instance. And that's not counting on players trying to crash or game the system.

>>162073494
The goal is to have players inside a ship feel the jerk and motion from outside despite the artificial gravity. You may believe it's just number but it's Real-Time number, that's exactly the sort of stuff that make for most of the calculation.

E:Daddies, which ship would you suggest to run HRESes?

>>162075996

>posts a video from 2015
>posts a second video from this year mentioning a possible larger number
>mentions in that video it was not something they could do a year ago

>>162075996
>ship feel the jerk
I'd bet 10 bux that's just a generic shake effect.
It's like some bomber shoots your ship, all they are updated on is what was damaged on the ship, all the crew is updated on is that too. They aren't informed of all the positions and actions of each other because it isn't relevant.

>>162071006
i understand that its a WIP completely but lets not be delusional here
you cant possibly expect them to iron out all the issues going from 2.5 to 2.6 and
>>162072925
youre telling me the clipping issues have NO WAY of making it into 2.6? really now. maybe the x85's interior is something thatll get ironed out but everything else? unlikely

>>162041447
Jesus Christ, I hate how easy it is to get on television and make the rest of us look bad.

>>162076294
At least a Vulture or better.

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>>162076753
I have this. Fit was suggested here a few days ago.
Diamondback managed to take me down to 30% hull, but I did not manage to deploy shield cells so that might be a reason.

>>162076365
Yes the large number was from mid 2016, funny thing I also remember another video from mid 2016 were Chris don't give number and still talk about seamless transition between instances, plus how big of a deal it is.
https://youtu.be/n6g-ECx-7xw?t=1028
If you want technical data, that's the above

Just remember E:D honest trailers, myself I'm happy SC are surprisingly shy about their promises (for now everyone expect AC better).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwoXcpqp3Ew

>>162076678
>you cant possibly expect them to iron out all the issues going from 2.5 to 2.6
I don't expect them to, because that is beyond the scope of what 2.6 is offering, 3.0 is the make or break for whether the netcode can hold up to the physics collision (clipping) requirements.
I expect 2.6 to provide a much needed playability update to Arena Commander (and Star Marine) - but to not do very much for the PU.

>>162056620
Fuck off with your autism. I hope we get to freedom your country into the 1300s before SC launches.

All the shit that is coming down the pipe for SC is pretty rad however I'm still waiting on ships 2.0 or whenever the fuck they are going to add actual ship customization with actual stats to manage.

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Make it vidya

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>>162079548
>not using this image

cool you can park a merlin inside a caterpillar
kinda difficult though

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>>162082026

>>162076746
people giving stupid answers to simple questions is a common tv trope around the world

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I wonder what percentage of players are gonna be G.I.R.L.s in SC.

I do that in WoW, but you dont really rp or even identify that much as your character in wow, where in SC your avatar is unquestionably going to be you. Andthat being the case I'll be playing a dude, propbably a physically idealized version of myself Irl.

How do long red beards interact with space suits I wonder.

>>162084314
Probably the same way they interface with gas masks if they get into the seals. Namely: they fuck everything up.

>>162082026
>>162082923
holy fuck this is not how one memes

>>162084314
How is a star citizen avatar more "you" than any other game?
If anything it's less because enough deaths actually kill the avatar and you have to play as a descendant.

>>162085584
You have only one character, you see the world through the character eyes, interact with your characters hands. Have your vision obsrtucted when the characters visor is covered in blood or oil or w/e.

Its not a third person chase cam game where you are watching an avatar do the things you tell it to.

>>162085798
Sounds like a bug, try pressing F4 m8.
:^)

>>162085798
Nah this is gonna be like Planetside 1 where corner peeking is mandatory

>>162065179
How is that hatch at the top supposed to open?
Where do the doors move exactly in order to open the way for ships to enter?

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>>162084314
>where in SC your avatar is unquestionably going to be you

good thing I'm a girl in real life then ;)

thecreeperdude5 and heracles531 (not up yet)
streaming 2.6 on twitch

>>162084314
"heh, you look a dude's ass all day playing [MMO]? what a fag, real men play the female only loli race"
>pulls shit DPS

>>162086192
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide

Girl is best difficulty

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>>162086001
First up and then to the sides on articulated arms likely.

>>162086661
false correlation though, theres nothing about female character that makes for shit dps, thats the player, not the avatar.

Shit player will be shit regardless of what they are playing, good player will do good deeps regardless of playing male mancow or female elfu.

>>162086192
Can't wait to play as qt female avatar being showerd with hundreds of dolars worth of stuff from lonely neckbeards vying for my attention.

I wish I had a cutlass so I could explore the stars with you :3

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>>162086192
>>162086948

>>162086661

I am going to be playing as a female simply because of the smaller profile.

No way CIG will make any appreciable differences in run speed, recoil handling, etc. with them, so in effect they'll just be the male avatar with tits.

Better to go with that then the Durreen who is twice as large.

>>162086937
idk man that kind of player tends to be the ones more worried about fashion and how to get the lewd costumes ASAP over not being shit at the game

games where racial passives dont exist at least

inb4 males are better at lifting cargo, firing weapons, and gaining reputation in SC

>>162087305
>manlet shaming
Men and women will be of EQUAL height, as they would be naturally if not for artificial, culturally driven selection

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>CTA
>Queue
>check back a minute later, CTA is just removed, but still in queue

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>>162087459

No they won't nigger, and even if they were, they still would have a much smaller frame. We've already seen how brawny the Marine is. And as much as I love me some muscle girls, they aren't injecting my fetish into SC.

Clearly you guys have forgot the extra character slot for customizable NPC thing.

>>162087368
Tends to be yes I agree, but I am saying there is no concrete disadvantage, I understand completely as one of those people who spends three times as much effort collecting hats and lewf armor in wow as I do on muh dps rotation, simply because wow is a casual game for babby and I stopped caring about the mechanics of it in BC, I like the world and have fetishized the QTs. Literally playing a half clothed fembelf blood dk right now.

It would be AMAZING if females got -4 str fps equivalent in SC. It wont happen, but I would be all about it if it did. Actually having to trade off for you +10 cha, mercy modifier and free shit would be perfectly fair IMO.

>>162087584
AND THEN I POST IN THE WRONG GENERAL REEEE

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>>162087613
muscle definition could be a slide

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>>162087183
>How to alienate women 1001
Making people uncomfortable talking about things they're excited about is the easiest way to have no friends.
Every time I see that picture I nearly choke cringing. I actually sort of feel sorry for the guy considering how socially awkward he must be.

>>162087368
I'd be okay with having to work harder for that shit, but I really doubt they're going to go even nearly that far. I do hope some in-game NPC communities have different reactions based on your gender, or even race. It would be extremely neat to have more interesting dynamics in the choice of who you want to be and how to achieve it. Sadly, I doubt any such thing will happen, but it probably will in player communities, at least.

>>162086685
We need to close the suicide gap.

>>162086192
Ever been for a RIDE i nteh copilot seat of a F7CM? Want to?

:3

By RIDE I mean fucked, there will be no free space ships or UEC, you will be sold on to Banu slavers

>>162087935
Your getting senile in your old age, Aono. First sign of dementia is mixing up your Internet tabs. Soon you'll be running people over in the grocery store parking lot because you forgot which pedal is the brake.

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>>162088061
Why?

>>162088061
raise wages or something for manual labor

>>162088178
Because i want EQUALITY in misery.

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>>162088214
>>162088246
ya'll need to get woke af if you haven't identified the disposable gender yet

>>162035894
Can't be, I use 4x Revenants on my Connie and they don't fire as fast as that.

>>162087797
think more on the side of Blade n soul or wildstar where 99% of players are disgusting malformed slider-abominations of the ideal female form played by 14 year old virgins, and or lolis / kawaii anime girls with animal parts generally played by 38 year old basement neckbeards

>>162037652
Actually, some of the final pass work is done in Maya2016.

>>162089016
>not being an average looking (by MMO standards) female who wears pants instead of skirts so more neckbeards are convinced of your irl status

>go to outlaw base

>mfw cant spawn a ship anywhere

>mfw im just stuck there unable to respawn a ship or do anything for weeks on end

wow

just wow

>>162089380
you can always kill yourself

git gud or dont git criminal status

>>162089380
ask for a ride in chat

>>162089609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YC2gcSHXaU

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>>162088531

Why are both of his arms coming from the same socket?

>>162085798
>he thinks these people actually play as female characters just because they like to look at their ass

have you seen the amount of trannies in the video game community in general, and on 4chan?

>>162086948
i have a caterpillar and i will kill your faggot ass on sight if i ever find this out

>>162089585
i respawn at the same base dude

weeks apart i log in and im still there

how have they still not fixed this launchpad stuff at all, geez, i sure hope it is in the next patch and they dont just create a thousand more bugs, but im starting to doubt that

>>162090138
trannies are a TINY percentage of population, they seem more common than they are simply because they're loud and feel the need to broadcast how different and special they are.

I'm a straight white male who plays females in MMOs for aesthetic reasonsin general, not just the "stare at ass" line. (females are more pleasing to my eye than males, who have thunk it?!).

You're trying to tell me that I don't exist.

Yo op, the megathread has moved to /r/scleaks

>>162090492
so you play mmos to have a sore dick for hours on end and not be able to immerse yourself in your character?

either way i think you people are mildly fucked in the head

>>162090635
>been copy pasting the OP for weeks
>never noticed reddit.

Thanks I'll be sure to delete that next time, reddit is a cesspit, in particular the SC parts are utterly without value. Bunch of headcanoning, hugboxing, [concern] spamming, circle jerking, shitlords.

There was a time when SC reddit was worth looking at, but that time has passed.

>>162090812

>not be able to immerse yourself in your character

>he can't roleplay the opposite sex

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>>162089354
I did exactly that in BnS for my first char despite the total lack of costumes that arent extremely lewd or extremely unicorns and rainbows girly. Can honestly say I never fapped to my character more than 3 times because i was too busy being a top tier KFM and grinding. but only because it's not possible to make a male in that game without either being a shota, comically giant viking man, or an edgy anime protagonist male

you make an alt if you want to fap to lolis

>>162090812
>sore dick.
Not even m8. I'd just rather have an avatar I find appealing than one I don't. Most of WoWs male avatars look like freaks and have shitty animation sets.

>>162090391
like i said, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen

>>162091180
>finds them appealing in a non sexual way

>>162090981
>roleplaying the opposite sex

you're all just confirming my suspicions

>>162091070
>fapping to loli races.
>Not fapping to amazon, ayylmao or turboslut races.

Fucking pleb taste.

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>>162084314
I would love to roleplay Florence Ambrose because she is a smart Engineer & badass. Problem : a genetically enhanced red wolf is technically furry, I don't want anything to do with those guys. So I'll be roleplaying the alien in a environmental suit at the command.

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>>162091338
I never said I did, even my loli alt is as unattractive as possible

>>162091284
Imo, theres no real room for RP in WoW. As much as I love the setting, the mechanics of the game completely eliminate player morality or choice of path.

This is one of the thing that prevents me from getting into character in wow, the only things you can be are generic do gooder or lowbie ganking asshole. Theres no factions to choose between, no good or evil to side with, no real difference in anyones game from one to the next.

This is why Im wondering about SC, which will be a world pack with grey on black moral decisions and where your Identity will be closely tied to a single character at a time. I wonder how the will effect the rate of >Male playing female character.

I know that as a dude who plays lots of females in WoW, I wont be playing any females in SC. I might use my extra character slot to make a QT sidekick, but that won't be *me* that will be an "other" thats around a lot and that I wont actually control.

>>162091595
Pretending to be a girl in that game is silly >>162089354 is talking about WoW

>>162091592
If you roleplay anything but the race that you actually are in game you are a faggot no exceptions.

>>162090138
>i will kill your faggot ass on sight if i ever find this out
Good luck getting through my army of white knights in their uncrewed Javelins

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>>162092078
I'm actually relieved Chris didn't try to make other race playable and waste more development time on it.

>>162092307
>hire some female character to be a crew member on my ship

>get them on voice chat

>its a dude

>shoot him in the back of the head later when he isnt looking

i cant wait

>>162091592
Pretty spooky how if we survive the next million years or whatever there could be actual furries walking around.
Immortal robo-furries.

>>162092771
yep.

also non humans being played by humans who are not actors specializing in being non human would be awful for muh imershun. Odd shaped humans that still act exactly like humans = shit tier aliens.

>>162093323
Humans with funny heads are shit aliens too though

>>162093323
I hope to play as an alien you'll need to fill out a U.S. style immigration form where you have to know ridiculously tiny details about their culture and civilization and if you don't get at least 91% correct you have to wait six months to try the test again.

>>162093510
inhuman physical forms are going to look terribly janky and made up, our aliens look human because we know how humans work physically and can adapt it a little, to make aliens that are somewhat convincing. Also the biped design with hands is argubly a superior and advantageous one.

>>162092771
>I'm actually relieved Chris didn't try to make other race playable
OK, cultist.

>tfw no playable alien race

>>162093883
Believing they could pull that off is the true cult

Got 90 mil, can I get a decently kitted python with that?

>>162092771
the only way I see other races being playable is like 3 years down the road after final release (assuming we're not permanent beta mode) when all other possible content is done and all thats left is new ships and cosmetics - they add mini campaigns for the other races for background story and motivation, then maybe, only if the respective races are fleshed out as a viable playable race to the level that humanity will be, they become playable in PU.

but even then you'd have to retconn all the base lore conflicts between races to make everyone freinds, or develop basically an entire game for each race to play inside the PU

the possibilities for major content expansions are limitless to be honest, I imagine they'll just take the easier route and "discover" new sets of systems for normal gameplay or high-tier fleet "Raid" content

>>162092771
I just want alien cities/planets as detailed as human ones

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will there be 2.7 2.8 etc? Or are they aiming for 3.0 after 2.6?

>>162095065
Who cares without 3.0 netcode it's irrelevant

>>162095065
It'll go 2.6 straight into 3.0. 2.7 was supposed to exist but it bloated in concept to 3.0, funny enough.

>>162093883
>banu btfo
another great day in the empire

>>162095313
I'm learning about the game and want to read up what's supposed to be in 3.0

>>162095371
cool, ty

>>162050841
They're apparently working on getting PiP to work in Cryengine

For now we have this gay generic fps zoom

>>162064664
Speculation like this is more cancerous than forum dads discussing the metagame of ships that haven't been released yet doing mechanics that haven't been released yet

Go and stay go

>>162095680
gamescom demo is the best representation of what 3.0 will offer new gameplay wise, along with many other things not shown in that

citizencon demo is relevant only for the planet surface generation and anything of what the player does, sand worms and all that crazy shit were there for show but that planet won't be there for 3.0.

mainly 3.0 is them finishing up the foundations for them to build the game around from then on, so they skipped 2.7 to emphasize how important 3.0 is

>>162095786
Does anyone really give a fuck about PiP? It hardly seems like a priority?

>>162093058
That's hard SF for you. Today we turn America upside down just saying "LGBT", but Mankind 1000 years in the future might be impossible to imagine. You could have tensions between "naturals", "eugenicists", "eugenicists who don't look human anymore", "eternal-loli" surgery, trans-transgender, "brain in a jar" who don't have a body anymore, "artificial life-form" asking for legislation to recognize hive-mind correctly, groups asking to legalize trans-species marriage as long as the ex-creature was made sapient...etc

A guy disgusted by furry today would be looked at like that old racist grampa coming straight from the middle-age.

>>162098059
It's definitely a polish thing more than anything but they said they wanted to use it for mission giver videos instead of rendering a flat video file to play. I really do want it for weapon scopes, though and I'm sure they'll find other useful applications for it.

>>162098294
>"brain in a jar" who don't have a body anymore
Sign me the fuck up

>>162096557
it looks like 3.0 will come out in a year, judging from how much new stuff is there

>Bought Star Sector
>Fucking around and suddenly fleet is slow, takes 20 minutes to travel anywhere close and can barely keep up with planets, let alone enemy ships

I have no idea what I'm doing

>>162098414
Yeah fair do's, I suppose its pretty integral for mission-giver video, if there is a procedural element to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3OfIDU6LfY

>>162098496
90% of it is seperate people from those who've been doing 2.5/2.6 stuff, it's been getting finishing in the background for a while now, and all of it's ships are already done. it could be ready for january for all anyone knows, but seeing as 2.6 delayed they'll probably take a few extra months anyway to finish it up.

if it was still due for 2016 they'd have just merged it with 2.6

Anybody know or have a good profile for a thustmaster t.16000m fcs hotas? Just got my setup today and still trying to figure it out.

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Criticize me /scg/
but not /edg/ you fuckers don't have standing to judge anyone.

>>162104214
>paying anything more than base pledge
It's fine, I can criticize you because I bought both.

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>>162104329
We would not have a game if people only pledged for the base pledge. People like me are what bring the average donation up to ~$110.

I buy ships because I want the project to succeed and the more funding it has the more likely that is.

I am regretting trading my starfarers.

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>>162104648
>we would not have a game

so just like now?

>>162104214
This is only vaguely acceptable if you've got like 10 people to play with lol
Otherwise gj overspending on what is just Freelancer 2

>>162104214
not sure why you own so many specialized ships for different roles, or several specialized ships for the same role, but i guess i take my self control for granted.

i'm guessing youre one of those guys who's gonna solo pilot the hull around while your NPC polaris and orion escort and mine for you huh

>>162104214
You've spent too much money, but thanks for doing what most of us cannot (and probably would not), and helping the game become reality.

No SH/Sabre/Gladius though, wtf m8.

>>162104214
I will criticize you because you don't just stick with the base package. Don't give me that "I'm funding" crap because theres already MORE than enough people giving CIG thousands of dosh.

>>162104214
>gladiator
>refailiator
Sorry, but you have a polaris there, what possible use would those 2 low-tier ships have to offer? I'd have upgraded them to a reclaimer.

>>162105552
>This is only vaguely acceptable if you've got like 10 people to play with
No you can hire NPCs :^)

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Reminder that multicrew nazi got told last thread

"I'm worse than npc crew so I have to ban them"
"I want to solo-kill players to cover my insecurities so I beg to make big clumsy ships rare"
"I want to ruin game made to have fun until they validate my social status and dickwaving"
"I'm so toxic I have to force players to accept me as crew"
"Star Citizen should have a realist economy where everyone must grind for 10 years and never be able to fly big ship unless they suck someone's dick"
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14354-Letter-From-The-Chairman
>However, with multi-crew ships such as the Retaliator, Freelancer or Constellation, we needed to approach the concept of stations a little differently. You, the fans, expressed an interest in being able to fly your multi-crew ships solo as well as having the option to invite friends to man the various support stations and turrets. Therefore we decided that you should be able to fly a multi-crew ship solo

>Players want multi-crew ship.
>Players want to fly multi-crew ship solo.
>Players want npc to be their crew when theirs friends aren't available.
>Players don't want to be forced to share their ship with random strangers.

Therefore CiG will make it exactly like that.

>>162106671
This.

>play a game with maybe 9+ million NPCs
>cry that people with a lot of money can use them to crew their big ship

At least you can try to solo their Javelin with your $30 starter ship and put it on Youtube calling the game pay2win!

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>>162107241
Bullying Hodor because he said he wanted to be paid to crew his ship is one things, but why the fuck would you even be against npc crew ?
Not only it's planned but this is the best fucking thing you can hope for : you get to fly your Idris without dumbass and Org get a feast of target that won't kill them 1:1

The only reason to be against soloing idris is if you fear to be shittier than npc.

>>162107431
>you get to fly your Idris without dumbass

The NPCs will be dumbasses though.

They're NPCs.

>>162107431
>he said he wanted to be paid to crew his ship
That's stupid. And I'm the guy that usually defends him against those elitist shitposters who don't want people to crew their ship with NPCs and who think that it should cost insane money to spawn ships in the first place.

>>162107725
>>162107743
The entire project of Star Citizen is born to give Any (single) player the opportunity to fly ship as if they were serious business. Not force them to be someone else lackey or dysfunctional until they find enough players to crew their personal ship.

You don't use an Idris to do a fighter jobs and you don't use an Endeavor as a mobile fortress, that's how the game is being balanced.
If we listened to your logic the only things left would be the vertical progression within Fighters and competitive players. Anybody trying a multi-crew ship would be shit unless they joined an Orgs.

If you can't understand the concept of Not playing to compare your dick with other, this isn't the game for you.

>>162107894
Cool Chingrish bro!

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>>162107894
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say. It almost seemed to make sense at one point but it seemed like you were saying I wanted to force players to do something, yet I never do. I'm always telling people that their ideas are forcing others in to their mindset.

>>162107894
There's no way in hell that NPCs are going to be sufficient enough to allow you to solo pilot your capital ship. Either CIG is going to purposely not allow that and will limit the amount of NPCs you can hire, or the AI just won't be good enough without needing what we would consider cheats.

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In ED is there a fast way to check if a system offers certain missions?
Been looking for a system in which to farm CZs but none of the ones I've looked into offers Massacre missions so far.

>>162068821
>>162070862

yeah, road to citizencon

the context is they're having a meeting, they decide at the 11th hour they have to drop the sq42 demo and focus on homestead. Chris offhandedly mentions they need some fauna for the desert planets and one of the devs jokingly suggests they do a dune sandworm. Then this happens.

>own a javelin (theoretically)
>try to crew it with NPCs
>some shit jealous scrub doesn't want me to
>wants my crew to be literal retards who have 1% accuracy
>otherwise it might feel unfair that all my gunners BTFO of their little pooraura in less than 5 seconds in a 1v1 situation

Do you not realize how whiny you are?

If someone's paid the credits to fill their gunner stations with NPCs, you're just going to have to face that fact, and do something about it.

Do you know what that means? It means you go play with an org or group up with others and take their whale ship down, and not go to the forums to cry about it.

They put these ships in the game for a reason. It's sci-fi. They sold them for a reason. They want people to use them in the game.

If you are whining about people using big ships with NPCs to shoot at you, then you are a casual and need to get good.

Join a raiding party and go and have fun.

>i can't have fun unless the devs give me an "i win" button, and tell me what to do, and reward me with a WoW gear treadmill
>"where is the fun in star citizen?"

>>162095680
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/schedule-report

>>162109010
I straight up don't understand the madness that the idea of npc crewed ships generates.

A solo player in an NPC crewed Javelin?
Good for them.

When I earn my way to bigger ships in-game, I don't want to have to join an org to make them useable.

Do I expect a well coordinated human team would be more efficient in a multicrew ship than me + npcs?
Yes of course.

Human players always have the potential to be better than AI, no matter how hard the AI is allowed to "cheat".

Really don't understand the whiners.

>>162109010
thanks for the fresh pasta, shame you stopped putting spaces before the question marks, that was hilarious

>>162109512
>Do I expect a well coordinated human team would be more efficient in a multicrew ship than me + npcs?

Shouldn't even have to be that coordinated.

>>162106497
he's beyond help if he's got that many ships for the same or completely opposite purposes

just shhh and let him fund our game

>>162109512
>When I earn my way to bigger ships in-game, I don't want to have to join an org to make them useable.
Exactly. I think this whole mess is a case of people not realizing it yet because they haven't worked their way up to a ship which does better with crew.

I honestly expect zome chat to be spammed with LFG 4m orion exp. (expedition) and other crap like that, trying to fill their ship up. When you consider the amount of ships that require crew which have been sold, we're looking at a large percentage of the game's population needing other players to crew their ships. It's simpler, and fairer to allow them to use NPCs.

>>162109521
I don't have a clue what you're talking about. But if you like living in a bubble where you believe anyone who disagrees with you is a troll, then good luck. That's so 2010.

>>162109719
Nah the polaris/hull E and orion are good choices if you have the money. The 300 series might be a 350R which is fine. My problem is that torps seem shit, except the polaris has an awesome arsenal, which to me invalidates the retaliator. And the gladiator never got an upgrade the equivalent of the superhornet, so it's F7C level, and seems kind of pointless. But we might be pleasantly surprised by its effectiveness and loadout.

>>162109716
Aye, probably not. I don't really expect the AI to make priority decisions the way an average person can.

"I'm operating my engineering console, managing thrust between manouvers and main engine- oh shit fuse box that control power flow to shields have burst, i'm the 2nd closest person, but the closest person is on a turret fending off the hoard of fighters raping us from behind, i'll hop out to replace the fuse" Guns keep firing, shields come back up.

Versus AI

[Managing these thrusters like a boss, everytime ship's human pilot wants to move in a direction, I make it happen faster- Shield is down- Turret #1 NPC is on way to repair fuse- Stay at engineering console] Ship explodes missile strike from behind as fighters got close

>>162109512
>When I earn my way to bigger ships in-game, I don't want to have to join an org to make them useable.

unfortunately, all those big bad large orgs with massive fleets probably arent gonna let you have too much fun in your solo crewed NPC cap ship.

the notion of playing this game alone regardless of how NPCs work out is the mandess.

I mean please go ahead and fly out alone in your idris, just expect to lose it very quickly to groups of actual players who see you as a big fat piggy bank floating away from port all alone

>>162110028
>When you consider the amount of ships that require crew which have been sold, we're looking at a large percentage of the game's population needing other players to crew their ships.

Doesn't a large percentage (all) of WoWs playerbase want raid gear, which needs other players to join their raid?

>>162110456
no

>>162110358
>arent gonna let you have too much fun in your solo crewed NPC cap ship
What's your point? If you had a cap ship and joined a big org, you would welcome those players replacing your AI crew... you wouldn't want to stop it. Those players could also launch fighters from your ship too.

>just expect to lose it very quickly to groups of actual players
Isn't that the point we've been making? Players should be allowed to order their NPCs around and do whatever they want.

It's good for whales.
It's good for pirates who kill NPC crews and steal ships.

>>162110028
long as you have freinds go for it, otherwise i dont see the point in trying to be a miner, cargo hauler, and military ship guy. mining/hauling makes sense but youre just gonna be struggling to afford that self sufficiency without being dedicated to one of those jobs.

>>162110358
Well, im speaking hypothetically, I wouldn't personally bother getting a bigger ship until I have a small dedicated core of friends playing the game to use it with, I don't want to play The Sims in space, but I also don't want to be 100% reliant on having 10+(20+?) people available at all times to do anything with a bigger ship.

>>162108496
Well make sure they're in some sort of war first obviously.

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>tfw solo Polaris is viable now so Arena Commander will have them as the new meta

>>162110717
>but I also don't want to be 100% reliant on having 10+ people available at all times

Why don't we just view it as content that is inaccessible unless certain needs are required? Not all games let you solo raids for example.

>>162110658
>youre just gonna be struggling to afford that self sufficiency without being dedicated to one of those jobs
That's kind of the whole theme that I've been arguing against grind, and insane prices of ships.

I don't want to have to work an online 30 hour per week job while simultaneously trying to have fun.

If I log in on day 1 and it's like $30 per week to hire NPC crews and $30,000 to buy a $725 ship I'm just going to uninstall. There's better games to be playing than onlinejobMMO#34286.

>>162110717
>but I also don't want to be 100% reliant on having 10+(20+?) people available at all times to do anything with a bigger ship.

Then don't use the massive ships. Use the ships intended for your playstyle and group size.

>>162110634
oh, i just said it but

you're going to need lots of freinds, in other ships, for larger cap ships or economic ships to be playable regardless of how AI ends up working. you can risk it all you want, it doesnt make it a smart decision but i'm not gonna stop it.

i'm all for it actually, it's a free ship / cargo / salvage for my squad if i see it

>>162111035
Because it doesn't need to be inaccessible?
That solo player with npc crewed ship is relatively weaker than the human crewed ship- but they still get to play with that big ship.

Human pirates get an easier target.

Maybe that solo player decides he will start hiring on some human crew after a while for key positions because it makes his ship run better, maybe he can't find anyone who wants to man boring turret gun #3 that never sees action- fine stick an npc on it.

>>162111337
That's exactly what I've been saying, and keep getting called Hodor for.

Also who cares if you have LTI?

>>162108496
Of course I am doing that, but they only offer skimmer missions. I'm talking about systems which have active CZs and are in either war or civil war.

>Getting new graphics card
>Finally able to play without shite graphics and get more than 27 fps

Finally my purchase of Elite Dangerous can stop being useless

>>162111494
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>>162111094
>buys hull E
>buys orion

>"i dont want to grind"
Thanks for funding my game and all man but seriously what the fuck do you expect to do with these ships if not work a virtual job?

>>162111441
Another good example:
You solo your Hull-E with some npc crew on turrrets and the like.
It's a risk sure.
So you hire 10 escort fighters to roll with you, 5 are players 5 are npc.
Your risk is reduced somewhat.

>>162111598
1070 coming here boi

>>162111687
Maybe it's fun to fly a Hull E from one planet to another while being chased by pirates?

Also, it doesn't have to be a job, just get some credits with risk/reward gameplay, so you can buy more ships.

>>162111756
Yeah exactly.

>>162111381
>It doesn't need to be inaccessible

Doesn't NEED to be accessible either. Necessity isn't a good ever a good argument. Regardless, it's basic game design to have high requirements for shit like this.

>>162111494
Its hit or miss, if its a Civil War and theres a planetary outpost that has any skimmers spawns (even if its in low numbers in a high sec outpost) you'll probably see Skimmer missions more. If its a War that extends to the system at war with the other and vice versa.
Also I'm pretty sure a few weeks ago they upped the frequency of other types of war missions to promote variety. Quietly that is, they didn't actually say anything about it officially but there was a pretty definite difference in my experience. Something thats pretty easy to do without a patch either, just an adjustment to the mission database's generation.

>>162112096
Right, so CZs are out of the door for money making too.

>>162106671
>fly idris solo
>get butt fucked by three dudes in auroras

i'm ok with this

>>162112264
No, I find systems giving them in droves you just have to either be A) lucky or B) do your research on the warring system to check for outposts.
Their economy appears to be a factor as well, some economies give data deliveries more than others.

9 days until 2.6! Get hype!

>>162112454
Interesting. I will have to keep roaming then, thanks.

>>162112089
Its still gonna have rediculously high requirements- The initial cost of the ship, insurance (fine you might have paid real money), but then you;ve got salaries for npcs, salaries for human crew, cargo cost, cargo insurance, weapon/engine/etc upgrade costs-insurance etc etc etc.

Its not like everyone is going to be bumbling about on day 0 having mega npc fleet battles all day for the next 1000 days until they get bored, they're gonna have to do other stuff or make it very lucrative use (big cargo payoffs) of their big ships to keep using them day-in day-out.
That's where your org benefits this kind of stuff, because you can have many players providing many sources of income into a pool to keep the flagship(s) operating regularly.

>>162112476
>live in a country with 70% white people
>get mad that white people are the most represented group

I wish people like this would move back to their ancestral homelands

>>162112476
he's like an inverted Daniel