XCOM General - /xcg/

Swords are useful

>>161886587
But rapid firing scouts are more useful.

Third for air game revival

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>>161886729
>air game

Neps, Titans and Alex Jones when?

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Hey, what's this?

Mod to ditch psi troops and bring back the psi subclass when?

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>>161886587

Gets it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=777683461
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=625580984 (There's an English only link in the page)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=734118536
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=731540200
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=720053228
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=716906004
Here for anyone wanting to make Sparks great again. To my knowledge these mods are all compatible, if you use them all together they might be a little too great though

>>161887091

As it is, that looks like something out of a scary machinima episode.

>>161887051

Titans are almost here.

I want to like Alex Jones' sweaty face.

>>161867025

About 10 years probably, i'm going as fast as i can, but as fast as i can has been pretty slow lately.

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Pistols and long pink hair are Useful.

>>161888525
I'm a Human

>>161888718
What's it like being a manchild?

>>161889391
RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Someone please tell me how I change my controls to controller mode I can't see any tickbox or anything in interface

nth for breaking the conditioning

we're comin for ya ADVENT

>>161891516

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2-4rJmYEfU

do you think somewhere in the resistance there's an Alex Jones tier crazy bastard who rants about ADVENT control on the resistance radio

hell that's probably what Bradford does these days

>>161896228
>no tits

>>161896649
>implying sneks arent flat

>>161896854
But snaketits...

>>161897343
its an advent lie im sorry

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>Shinobi gets nickname
>it's Ripper
>proceed to turn him into Tim Owens
One of these days I'll learn to take the game seriously

>>161897628
W-what do you mean?

>>161897765
they are engineered to make you submissive

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>2 pods right off the bat
>elite officer/elite shieldbearer
>archon/elite trooper/elite lancer
>archon pod clusters behind tree & COMPLETELY BLOCKS LOS on their first move
>put everyone on overwatch & 'nade the officer pod
>officer pod dies to overwatch
>archon pod flinches, activates my trap card
>guardian specialist takes 4 fucking shots
That was operator as fuck guys, well done.

Why is ruler reaction so unfair?

>>161899114
Because your troops movement triggers it. If you get caught in a shitty position you are fucked.

>>161899114

Because you need to git gud

How does /xcg/ theme its psy-ops?

What I've got-
>Yakuza with kabuki paint, eyes went red & tats glow purple
>White-haired/purple-eyed tight-ass jewess
>Black scotsman that sprouted stark rose-blond shoots & blue eyes

Demon, Wraith, Werewolf respectively.

>>161899114
Because you're bad at moving your troops through good positions in between encounters.

>>161902795
First thing to come to mind.

Last time it was bitter rookie who didn't see action for a bit too long and Croat operator.

>>161902795
Twitchy or intense, otherwise anything goes.

>>161902795
for a second there i read psy-ops as psychological warfare and though you just yelling at ayys with a megaphone

>>161902795
Fuck not rose-blonde, apparently it's 'strawberry'. Guy's da was a scot, he's got his hair.

>>161902956
No by-the-book?

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>>161902795
Reach EVA Skull helmet, visor color depending on how many kills they have
Pic related for color scheme

>>161903367
Forgot to mention, they're all Finns
Gotta have them meme magics

>>161903367
Do ayys even know what a daily dose is?
Also, way to forget the spoiler, fag.

>>161903367
thanks doc

>>161902795
Operators. They're all just varying degrees of operators. I think I have a problem. Send help

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>>161903519
I fucking swear I clicked it

>>161903536
Psions are unique in that they have mind powers to explain away bullshit.
They don't need helmets/camo if they've got reality-warping magic. See Fortress.

>>161890487
What kind of controller are you using?

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Soldiers that don't throw like retards mod when?
>literally CAN'T lob a grenade off the roof unless you're hugging the goddamn edge

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>>161905534
Can someone upload the most recent weapon mods into the mega?

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Guess the mission type and win a fabulous prize

>>161907413
Landed transport in first month?

>>161907413
I'm going with Portent here. Keep Ziggy alive my man

>>161907478
Nope

>>161907536
>Portent
I think you are on the right track

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>>161887051
>Titans

TITANS NOW

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=812942004

>>161908552
I was just about to hit the sack you son of a bitch.

>>161908552
BASED

>>161908552
I love you uncle gunman

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>>161908552
You are the best

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>>161908552

LEAVE HUMANITY BEHIND 12 SPARK TEAM NOW

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>>161908552

Awesome.

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>>161908552
WOOOOOO

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>>161902795

Purple everyday. Purple everytime. Purple all the way.

>>161908552
ABSOLUTELY BASED

>>161898392
>>guardian specialist takes 4 fucking shots

Not bad. What weapons mods/upgrades does he has?

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>latest bagels video
>4U
>CREED

All these references.
It's perfect.

>>161908552
>titans
>not Gurren Lagann
>not gundams
>not Evas
>not mech warrior mechs

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>tfw

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>>161913119
For fuck's sake Pokemon got dark rather abruptly

>>161912912
Are there high quality models for mechs?

>>161912912
evas pulling out their box cutters

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>tfw snek acids your soldiers through a wall ,wich causes panic,wich causes the soldier to charge out and get sniped by an advent sniper.

>>161913669
THE fuck is going on here

>>161912801
Superior scope/advanced clip, plus the height bonus & the specialist GTS perk.
Nothing fancy, just luck.

>>161914597
NO, NOT LIKE THIS

I wish civ bodies stayed on the battlefield. It's weird when they disappear

It's also fucking weird when they scream but at the same time say a death quote that doesn't sound like they're in pain, c'mon Jake you can do better than that

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>Codex uses her warp shit
>Move troopers out of there, as usual
>End of the turn
>Realize there's a civilian in there that hasn't moved
>Only guy left is at 6 health & would have to sprint to make it
>Bitch could be a faceless
>You bet your goddamn ass I saved her life anyway
That's XCOM baby.
30 days in the infirmary

>>161914685
Sorry, had to fix the spoiler.

>>161914789
You can't just savescum on 4chan

>>161907896
Is it part of the slingshot stuff?
>graveyard full of thin men

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>>161914870
Watch me.

>>161914908
No, but still on the right track. You are thinking a bit too specific.

>>161914979
>the answer was terror mission all along
that or the exalt base

>>161915054
Now you are getting colder

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>>161912861
>holla holla get $
>Me and fucking Mark Rutzou
>doritos replay of the day
>ciaphas cain

Beagle, you're perfect. Never change.

>not portent
>not a terror mission
>not anything form slingshot
>not exalt based
Do you have to get down here and not let him have all the fun?

>>161915424
>>161915684
f-fuck

>>161915684
>>161915801
I really didn't think this would be so hard.

>>161915864
>>161915801
Why would you need so many medkits for the dorn mission?

>>161915864
... landed ufo?

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>>161912912

I like those mechas too but you have to admit that the Titans from Titanfall are quite a great match for XCOM.

>>161913510

Add that high vibration sound when deployed and when cutting something and you have a killer set.

>>161912912

Can you provide models of roughly the right scale then?

Titans are easy because they're roughly analagous to SPARKS in proportion, the rest of the things listed aren't really.

>>161902795
Dark Hippy shades, Bald if male, white tumblr sidecut if female, Purple everywhere.

Glad to see beagle uploading again. Can't be many xcom 2 vids left will he be uploading more war within once he's done?

>>161917942
he came by a while ago asking opinions and shit

he is finishing this campaign and then moving onto a modded experience first thing changed is the complete removal of concealment

>>161918364
im pretty interested to see though that goes if i say so myself

>/v/ at it again
>>>/v/359726761

>>161920629
Reminder this is why Xcom2 isn't LW2, fuckers can't even deal with rulers

>>161920629

>baaaaaw why are rulers unfair

Filthy fucking casuals.

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Sectopods are cute,CUTE.

>>161920629

>IF YOU MISS ONE SHOT YOU LOSE THE ENTIRE MISSION NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT

think about this:

-these people were playing vanilla XCOM 2
-they weren't playing Long-War style with grenade damage falloff and buffed ADVENT/pod sizes
-they likely weren't even playing legendary

I'll be the first to admit, rulers did make the game more difficult overall, they're absolute bastards.
but that's gotta be the whiniest thread I've seen in a while, there's legitimate criticisms, but then there's straight up bitching about being shit.

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>>161921762
Sectopods are scum! Kill all Sectopods!

Alright lads, what with Gunman releasing GOAT mod and anon (>>161906818) asking for Mega update, I'm updating the modlist pastebin tonight. Will be fixing the Mega and workshop as well.

Any non-workshop mods released lately I should include? I've got the workshop ones written down, but Loverslab/Nexus stuff I've been spotty on

Why is EW considered better than X2 by some people? I played both but EW never hooked me and after one campain I did not feel like coming back. With Xcom 2 Im currently on my 3rd campain and I'm enjoying it more than i ever did EW. Is it just a taste thing? Or just nostalgia and remembering a game better than it actually was?

>>161923919
Base EW doesn't really get praise, it's a shallow cinematic game made to be played once for the story. LW is what's better than X2, it's a much bigger game, with more viable options, deeper strategy and a lot more stuff to juggle.

>>161924192
Oh right. Do you think I should try it?
One thing that scares me off is campain time. Im afraid i might just get bored with it and not play it anymore. Or that I lose a campain I invested a ton of time into.

>>161923461
Thank you.

>>161924365
I've never completed a campaign because I always get bored halfway but I've still had hundreds of hours of fun with it. If you really want to get a win, there's a second wave option for a shorter campaign which should work well

>>161923919
Around here at least it is because EW has the LW mod. Vanilla though I would say X2 is better.

>>161915947
>>161915951
Nope and nope. Now I am actually going to have to make a prize.

>>161924678
>>161924365
Same here, haven't finished, but I have had tons of fun with the LW campaign. It will also just make you a better xcom player.

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>Tfw made the mistake of activating ABA2+Alien rulers
RIP whole campaign

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>kill Archon King
>do no get an Archon King corpse after mission
>cannot do Archon King autopsy

>>161926079
is there an edit of this picture with dr vahlen as the doctor?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622778878&searchtext=

Bug or feature?

>>161926529

Imma say feature, but a dumb feature.

>>161926529
Wait, what?

Wasn't there a mod that makes this happen on purpose?

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>>161917942
>>161918364

I would have liked a X-COM campaign with the Final Mod pack (or more DOOM) but Guerrilla Mod could use the extra exposure.

>>161886525

Any news on the weapon mods by this brilliant anon?

>>161627763
>>161588690
>>161588891
>>161589131

I'm really pumped to see it!

I've had the idea of a xcom like LMG, but I have no skill in modelling.

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>>161927173

I'm right here, always am(almost). There's no news worth mentioning, i'm still working on it haven't even finished the conventional attachments.

Haven't really settled on how i want the weapons to function either, right now all they do is mark targets that they hit, don't know if i'll make them do anything else, maybe do a little more flanking damage.

>>161927612
How many effects do you want them to have? How many can you add? Can you have the upgraded tiers have more effects:
standard: mark target
upgrade: mark target, more flank damage
elite: mark target, more flank damage, shreds armor
Just an example. Or what about rounds that can lower will? How many effects can you add that don't require you to actually hit the target? How accurate will they be? What's the base damage.

>>161927848

Well, originally the mod was just going to add some new ayys with smgs, but whenever i start making a mod i start going crazy and i keep doing stuff, in this case i decided i would make a captain for the Advent Scouts, and then i figured i would give him a new weapon that marks targets that he hits, and then i figured might as well give the weapon to Xcom too, and now i'm thinking "maybe if it just marks targets it isn't that cool". To answer your questions though:

I don't know. Potentially as many as i want(i think). Yes.

The mod does actually have a new ammo type(it's a secret though), uh, i dunno, i don't think there's a limit. They are probably going to be pretty accurate but deal little damage, probably around as much dmg as an SMG. Like i said i haven't settled on anything yet but the idea i have on my head right now is that maybe they could deal as much damage(or less) than an SMG normally, but if you flank with them they could deal as much damage as a normal rifle(or more).

Will fireaxis do an Exalt DLC?

I really miss those guys desu.

>>161929010
>The mod does actually have a new ammo type(it's a secret though)
I am intrigued. Keep up the good work.

Is the amount of resources you get from supply raids based on how many crates survive the mission, or do you just get nothing if they're all destroyed?

>>161929568
I think it's variable, not really sure though.

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>>161924883
I guess we'll never know what kind of mission it was. Good op anyway, only the scout go hit for 1 past armor.

>>161926825
I am very excited to see Guerrilla Mod get exposure again, more so when Begales is the one to do it.

I never got to watch any of his streams of Guerrilla Mod.

>>161931531
Now I'm really curious, is it the one where you save that one scumbag politician?

>>161931996
No. The answer is gonna be so lame by the end now.

>>161931531

Zombie apocalypse terror mission?

>>161932054
Alright, speed round.
>Landed medium
>Saving the engineer
>Crashed medium
I'm trying to come up with a mission which takes that many healthpacks. Either it's a super long one or it's one with a lot of thinmen where it's imperative you don't get slowed down by them. I'm going with the latter and putting my money on it being a bomb mission

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>>161932069
Nope

>>161932259
>I'm going with the latter and putting my money on it being a bomb mission
Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.

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>>161913119

wrong attitude, tovarisch.

>tfw losing civilians left and right out there

so is A Better Advent an okay mod or should I stick with individual enemy additions?

>>161926483
No but it should be done

>>161932780
>>161913119
>>161914789

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>Ruler Reaction

Is xcom 2 good?

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The Ayys sure do have some fun toys.

>>161933917
no

>>161932780

Thank you based Stalin.

>>161932867

It's a good mod, unless you're a scrub.

>>161933620
>Have a psi operative
>Rulers are now stupid easy, even if you fuck up your activation.

>>161933917

Did you play Enemy Within or Enemy Unknown, did you like Enemy Within or Enemy Unknown? If yes, then yes it's good. If you didn't like them, then no.

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>>161933917
Lots of nitpicks & more casual design choices compared to vanilla EU/EW, but overall it's on-par if not better.

Long War though, LW is still King.

>>161933917

Did you play Enemy Within and enjoyed it? then XCOM 2 will be terrible for you.

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>>161933917
I paid full price for once and still feel like I got my moneys worth. It's a good game with a lot of replayability stemming from the modding scene, with more to come on that front down the road. All in all, if you really liked XCOM:EU get it no questions asked. If you were on the fence about it/thought it was okay get XCOM2 on sale, maybe down the line when its bundled with its inevitable EW-tier expansion.

>>161933917

EW is better desu senpai

>>161927612
If you make the mags smaller/remove them entirely you could convert it into a carbine/semi-sniper like LW had-- basically gets a 2-3 shot clip (compared to the AR's 4) in exchange for a small buff to accuracy/a flatter range bonus.

If it were to function like you're thinking, marking/holotargeting on successful hits, visually I'd give it a larger optics package- a big fat scope with antennas n shit. So it can transmit that targeting data autonomously to the rest of the squad.
And, there'd have to be a big tradeoff to avoid it being OP too (unless you intend for it to be used with difficulty mods).

As-is looks great fwiw.

>>161933917

65% Chance to be Good.

>>161927612
Something I've always wanted was to take the vanilla AR but replacing the barrel/front of the rifle as you upgrade to Mag Rifles and Plasma rifles to fit the whole guerrilla play style

Is there any Battle Priest voice pack mod?

Like based on Alexander Anderson or something that doesn't suck?

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Does xcom have the deepest lore?

I don't know about XCOM 2, but vanilla/Enemy Within were great concepts ruined by the devs not thinking ahead and higher-level play revolves entirely around manipulating A.I. and cheesing every possible situation, which really kills my interest.

Does XCOM 2 fix that at all? Because from what I've seen it looks like they swung too far in the opposite direction and made soldiers way too overpowered. It's like nobody understands how to balance anything.

>>161940906
Both your soldiers and the enemies are overpowered. If you don't kill the enemy in one turn the enemy will fuck you up.

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is this normal?
HELP

>>161941539
see that sounds really stupid for a game that's trying to be a turn based strategy

What about Long War? I'm pretty hesitant to try it out because I feel it's just a masochistic addition to give people who were already used to cheesing the fuck out of Ironman Impossible something to do.

>>161909301
>scorch

Good taste man.

Does the LW alien pack mod add bonuses for autopsying these new enemies?

>ywn be an Archon
>ywn be as aesthetic as an Archon
>ywn be an aesthetic, deific posthuman

>>161946602
>you will never be killed by coked up maniac with a 416
Sounds good to me

Why did Long War mods go overboard with shit? Why do they think they're talented?

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>>161941842
EVERYTHING gets more depth.

But the game is balanced around the cheesiest of tactics. Like kiting berserkers back & forth through CCS overwatch. Or stacking every debuff known to man in order to bring down that 90-HP sectopod titan before he starts stomping people.
Core concepts like paying attention to LOS & making use of overwatch traps are still in full force, so if that triggers you that's that.

But it'd be a shame if it does, because it's pretty fun to play once you know what's going on.

obligatory shoutout for insipid bagle shit.
https://youtu.be/pthNoxZH0Ms

>>161954567
AYY LMAO it's me your Grandma. Get out of that cover and give me a hug

>>161944004
No. Most of them drop the corpses of already existing enemies, like Muton Elite will drop normal Muton corpse, and some of them like Drones drop corpses that don't have any use so you sell them. There are seperate enemy mods that add autopsies and items though, I know that Elite Viper, Advent Sniper etc do

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>>161932259
So I promised a fabulous prize, but I didn't have one originally, so here, have this ultra rare concept art for XCOM 2 Halloween props.

Any idea why the game starts using twice as much memory when I try to start the second fucking mission of a campaign?

The only thing that I can somewhat ping this towards are a couple of map mods that updated around the same time as I started getting this issue and I find it hard to believe that those are the cause.

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WHEN?!

>>161959169
2018 the earliest

>first real mission of the campaign
>bring 2 rookies that tag teams everything
>one will serve as a sniper the other as reconnaissance
bros 4 life

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>>161935076
I'm starting to think that's true...

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>>161931531
>tfw you shoot down 2 ufos with 3 interceptors
Bretty Gud

>tfw the only battleship you will ever play on in EU/EW will be Gangplank

I was playing LW I/I doing a landed transporter with ballistics, and then the outsider pod had the fucking guts to spawn outside of the command center. Fucking assholes.

>It's July
>I still don't know how to build that defensive turret facility because I haven't come across single turret in non-evac missions
I fucking hate when this happens, the corpses of enemies you need just don't appear in non-evac missions

>>161943148
>scorch
You need some glasses man that's ion cant you tell by their tits

With timed missions is better to aggressively use your resources and grenades against the first couple of pods? To speed up missions and to kill a pod before the next patrol wanders into you. Quite often I won't run into the last ayys on a map until I've already caught up to the objective.

In LW, if you managed to get a squad of all MECs, would that work out or are MECs designed to support human teams and lack some abilities humans have?

>>161941842
One of the best changes of LW was that it removed the high damage that made it necessary to cheese I/I. The main problem for EU highlevel play is that it's practically impossible to make your soldiers reliably survive one hit, so it all revolves around manipulating the AI into not shooting at all.

In LW you can for the entirety of the game maintain a healthy buffer between the HP of your soldiers and the average damage of the strongest common ayy, so you can leave soldiers in cover in line of sight of ayys and be certain that nobody is gonna die unless they get hit twice in the same turn.

>>161886729
>>161886525
FUCK AIRGAME

>>161965931
It would be extremely expensive and very overkill. MECs are basically humans+, the soldier becomes better at almost everything, the main downside is the cost.

You'll miss out on a couple useful things like officers (command) and mind merge, and if you add two-three fleshy soldiers to fill those duties you basically have the dream team.

any tips you can give to a noob who never played ufo defense before and sucks at trying to learn on his own

>>161967538
use smokes alot

>>161968006
I already partially figured out the tactical game but the strategy and management troubles me

>>161908552

If you're the guy who did that mod I love you. I was hoping for these soon as I tried titanfall.

Why don't enemy overwatches trigger against your Gremlins? I know this is most likely a gameplay mechanic, but is there any actual explanation in game? Do they have cloaking or something?

>>161969274

No, just a mechanic. Gremlins can actually trigger pods if Advent sees them.

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>>161970543
neat!

>>161970543
I check XCOM 2's workshop daily, how the hell did I miss this? Looks great

>Psygate mission
Probably the one and only time a Bladestorm Ranger is useful, god damn if it doesn't hard-counter chryssalids.

>looking at the DLC
>Alien Hunters
>Huh, that looks pretty cool. New weapons, MonHun armor, challenging enemies and a neat trophy room
>scroll down to the reviews
>the boss enemies get to move every single time you make an action
Firaxis why

>>161969274
Ayys aren't stupid enough to waste shots on tiny floating objects. :^)

>>161972153
>challenging enemies
>the boss enemies get to move every single time you make an action

Anon the reactions are what makes them interesting and challenging. It's a thousand times better than the alternative of HP bloat and defense out the ass.

>>161972795
Additionally it also works better with the turn timers, taking of 1/3 of a rulers health should rarely take more than a complete turn. If the were traditionally tougher they'd take far too long to kill.

>>161907413
Cancer

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REMOVE SNEK

VIGILO CONFIDO

I would kill for one battlescanner during gatecrasher.

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>>161973829
Snek a cute! A CUTE ><!

>>161956104
>sectoids caring about cover

>>161959169
Didn't the "creators of the original XCOM" also have a really shitty arcade game floating around?

>>161968561
>>161967538
You starting with EU/EW or 2?

>>161971761
Packing a sniper is better.
Serial, Killzone or Faceoff all do the same, but without the decrease in damage & risks of moving.

>>161976342
he's probably starting ufo defense

>>161972153
It's not that bad. If you don't know about it beforehand it'll fuck you, but once you do you just use the tools they give you to fight them & bring a scout ranger on every mission to set up an overwatch trap.
They're tough but beatable.

>>161972795
Bullshit. They should have kept to the mechanics if possible. Changing it up mid-game feels cheap.

>>161972927
This is the real (sole) reason it is the way it is.
Because of their prolific use of mission timers, if they'd gone with the HP bloat+defense then an alien ruler spawning would have been (much more of) an instant-loss. So to prevent the fuckers from being alpha-damaged right the fuck down with everything else, but ensure the fight doesn't take more than 1-2 turns, they invented the new mechanic.
And it works, kinda.

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>>161975515
>nips
Anon I'm sorry, but that's not even canon.

>>161976810
Well if that's the case,

>>161967538
Build satellites. Build communications. Launch as many goddamn satellites as you can.

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Slam & Jam hall of fame

How do you lure enemies into overwatch traps? Gatecrasher specifically.

Even if I send one bod' off moving at one tile a turn he'll never be able to run out of sight of the officer pod. Even high cover no protection here.

>>161977745
F

>>161977774

BREAK LOS

>>161977836
MOR BALATEN

>>161977114
When do Satellites become a thing then because I don't know how to do any of that
I got longe range sensors for my base if thats what you mean

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>>161977951
>>161977874
Fuck I'm retarded.

Not sure about OpenXCOM, but in the original the biggest trick I knew was to rush for laser weapons & heavy laser in particular- you could build & sell them for a profit.
Otherwise skip to the plasma pistol- it's straight-up better than anything laser & you get tons of them. Till then the heavy grenade launcher (not the auto-cannon) is the best armament for your troops.
When building new bases, keep in mind Ayys can find them and when they do they can only spawn in the hangars & elevator. So the Meta is to keep them isolated from the rest of the base, creating a chokepoint to defend.

More on the tactical side: keep in mind you can arm/reload grenades/weapons with one trooper & pass it to another. Hot-potato is real.
Everyone has squad sight, so put your most accurate troops in an elevated position & scout for them.
On night-time terror missions, if lids have started showing up, give rookies HE primed for 0 and send them to scout. Their sacrifices will be remembered.

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I wasn't expecting the jump from Commander to Legendary to be this hard, I just assumed it was Commander with longer research times, build times etc.

Pic not related but still I want to post Big Sky

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AND ANOTHER ONE BITE THE DUST

>>161978985

>rage lightning coming out of his eye sockets

Now that's what you call being pissed.

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>>161978882
Im gonna try do a legendary playthrough now, how much harder is it? I literally just finished my commander ironman like an hour ago

>>161979983
One thing I noticed at first was I think at every map there is one more pod than Commander(including Gatecrasher), and you have to use a lot of different soldiers. If a soldier gets gravely wounded(which happens with like one hit at the beginning of the game) they get hospitalized for more than a month. Building AWC also takes about 2 months. Other than those I think others are things that you'd expect already, like enemies getting more health, etc

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>>161976957
I am the canon

>>161972153
It's very manageable. 90% of the crying about rulers could have been mitigated with a disclaimer saying "These guys are hard as fuck, wait until you have mag+plate and a psi."

>>161981847
>claw marks
h-hot

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>aggro the gatekeeper
>it put-puts into a propane tank
>shreds itself and kills the andro shell I was fighting

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>>161982226
Yes

>>161979983
Not him, but I find the hardest part of Legend is the wound times wearing you down in the first month. In EU it didn't really matter if you went into the second mission with rookies, it was still going to be the same sectoids you fought in the first mission. In XCOM 2 you have timers and reinforcements in addition to officers and sectoids.

That being said I think there's more leeway in fucking up the first month and dragging yourself back up in the second.

>reach endgame
>intel/supplies almost useless
>just sticking around to get achievements lined up
>Notice the Blackmarket/HQ are offering Colonels
Holy shit I can actually stop save-scumming the missions now.

Jesus christ Long War is so fucking shit. I just want 6 primary, 6 secondary squad members, not 40 niggers I have to swap in and out after every god damn mission.

Fucking dumb.

>>161985692
Seriously? For all of Long War's bullshit, you're complaining about actually having a proper army to fight with rather than a six-man team of boyscouts? Get good

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>>161985692
Okay

>>161985692
Then play Vanilla, it does just that.


Stop being a stupid idiotic whorish piece of shit and complaining about things that clearly aren't what you're looking for you oxygen-wasting pile of human garbage and mediocrity.

>>161985789
>>161985796
>>161985909
Your mod is shit.

>>161985692
I don't like LW either but I liked it forcing you to use more than only 6 guys to defend against an alien invasion

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>>161986042
Atleast try to bait harder

>>161985692
>same squad day-in day-out
>no heroic deaths, no truly desperate situations to survive, an empty hall of remembrance
>just 6 hollywood supersoldier mary-sues fighting an entire invasion by themselves
Why the fuck would you want that?
Shit gets fucking stale.

They aint real heroes if there's no real risk.
Shit, the devs may as well have deleted your recruit button if you're only ever going to use your starting squad.

That's fuckin lame man.

>>161986042
Your taste is shit.

>>161985692
>Jesus christ Long War is so fucking shit. I just want 6 primary, 6 secondary squad members, not 40 niggers I have to swap in and out after every god damn mission.


As superior as LW is compared to EW, I think there is something to be said for having an SG1 tier squad and a bunch of scrubs that you occasionally bring out because you have to.

You just sound like a whinging cunt though.

>>161985789
>>161985796
>>161985909
To be fair to him, this used to be a very common complaint when LW was new. The fatigue system seems like a needless annoyance until you realize what it allows for.

>>161985692
Aside from the flavor of not being a 6-man power ranger squad, you're supposed to actually lose men and even missions. How is the game supposed to give you a squadwipe if that will lead to you losing your entire roster? And if all those missions give experience to the same 6 guys how long will it take you to train their replacements?

>>161986225
I wouldn't be so sure it's bait.
>>161941842
Guy was obviously opinionated, was predisposed to hating LW but was encouraged to try it.

>>161986702
>until you realize what it allows for.
Enlighten me.

>>161986702
>Aside from the flavor of not being a 6-man power ranger squad, you're supposed to actually lose men and even missions. How is the game supposed to give you a squadwipe if that will lead to you losing your entire roster? And if all those missions give experience to the same 6 guys how long will it take you to train their replacements?
And I didn't say the base game was good either. There shouldn't be any levels, and skills should be assigned through medals. Losing a squaddie wouldn't be an issue as much since you could slap on some armor and a decent weapon and have someone who is green, but still useful even in the late game.

>>161941842
>If you don't kill the enemy in one turn the enemy will fuck you up.

>see that sounds really stupid for a game that's trying to be a turn based strategy


Because XCOM is more about risk management than traditional turn based strategy. The short, single turn to resolve, nature of it means the tactical game is a series of high impact decisions.

>>161987292
What everyone has said.
The possibility of losing men, having a larger/more diverse garrison, managing the fatigue & injuries in a more realistic manner- you can send out fatigued troopers but they'll come back with a light injury if you do. Maybe that's not worth it for some crashed small, but fuck if you find a landed supply boat right after fatiguing your best troops training some rookies it might be worth it.

Your medals idea sounds gamey &, more importantly, casual.
It'd let people have losses but without any consequences, without needing to plan ahead.
>You did something stupid and got one of your oldest hands killed?
>LOL just grab some guy and slap the vet's old equipment on him, good as new!
LW's system requires you to constantly be training up would-be replacements, carefully balancing squads between old vets that can carry & rooks who can learn.
That's some good shit.

>>161987292
>Enlighten me.
The fatigue system forces you to train rookies. Every mission, I ask myself "how hard is this?", and I bring the least experienced soldiers I'm comfortable bringing - for example the average abduction will require one-two guys from the A-team and everyone else will be B-team. A crashed small UFO is an opportunity to add one or even two PFCs to the squad. Usually it's not fatigue that constrains me from bringing experienced soldiers, it's my desire to prepare for the future by training the entire roster. You're running a military organization and actually have to think about succession.

This isn't just roleplay, it's trading off the safety of always fielding the strongest soldiers (almost no chance of mission failure) versus making sure you have a robust roster (individual missions are riskier but you can take more of them, and absorb casualties/wounds). You're asked to judge the difficulty of missions constantly. It's a minigame of its own.

The ability to lose soldiers and even missions was already brought up. LW is the only modern XCOM that handles this correctly, because of the fatigue system. Maybe you have a better idea with medals, but I prefer LW-style disposable soldiers a lot more than UFO defense-style ones, since having actual skills and soldiers and builds to manage contributes a lot to the game.

Fatigue also contributes to the tradeoffs of modifying your soldiers with psi/gene mods. It's more controversial than the rest of it, but I think it's overall positive that it makes you think twice about every secondary perk you give to a soldier.

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>>161967179

'sup

>>161988876
This a thousand times

>There is a voice pack of Joker from Mass Effect
>There isn't a voice pack of Mark Hamill's Joker
>Neither of Kevin Conroy's Batman
What the fuck? Do I need that 40 gb modding tool to make voice packs? Otherwise I'm going (try) to make those

>>161990135

No one cares about your meme capeshit characters

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>>161990463
>No one cares about Mark Hamill or Kevin Conroy

>HK Droid mods has been out for awhile

I check new mods religiously but why the hell do some of them show up so far back in the most recent category?

Modder uploaded and then didn't make it public until much later?

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Remember when XC2 hype was at its peak ?
Firaxis kept revealing the new enemies and everyone shat their pant thinking about melee mutons, burrow lids and mind control sectoids in first month

Fast forward a year and the number/type of pods are rather irrelevant, all you see are nameless red bars who will all get vaporized in one turn anyway

I'm salty as fuck there's no LW2, all these maps and that customization wasted on a bland gameplay

>>161991507

Big name modders pay Steam big bucks to keep their mods on the front page at all times, so some other mods get bumped down.

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>>161992039

I remember the hype.

>>161992039

It's very hard to edit .inis.

>>161992039
Didin't it take a few years after XCOM EU release for mods to even pop up?

I wouldn't count LW2 out yet. I figure they're waiting on the next expansion release and go from there.

>>161992152

What confuses me is that all of those things were true (except the long war at the bottom), yet why are we still so unhappy?

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>>161992325
>>161992210
>>161992152
>>161992039
>>161992453

Why don't YOU do it? And by "you" i mean "/xcg/", all the big mods like ABA and the LW mods lets you use their assets and code and whatever.

Grab their mods and stuff, change the spend a couple of weeks on the .ini files working together to make "long war 2" and there you go.

>>161992090
>modders
>having money
LOL

>>161992090
What

>>161992090
proofs?

>>161988526
>Your medals idea sounds gamey &, more importantly, casual.
It could be a mix of ribbons and medals. Ribbons are awarded for completing training in the military. It could be base abilities, like run and gun or heavy weapons. Medals could further define the soldier with various abilities.

But it doesn't matter since it will never be thoroughly fleshed out and made.

Your opinion of my opinion is shit, by the way. Like your mod.

>>161993805
Enjoy being objectively wrong. Maybe instead you could just admit that the mod doesn't tickle your fancy.

>>161993805
No U.

>>161993930
I don't think it's in question that he doesn't like it anon.

>>161994002
Yeah, but he's hiding behind, "I don't like it, therefore it's shit," instead of just concluding he doesn't like it.

>>161993930
>Enjoy being objectively wrong.
lol. Anon doesn't like when people make fun of his shit mod that even people that like it admit there is stupid shit in it.

Has anyone actually beaten LW?

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>>161994112
Go be a sour grape somewhere else. LW is fun, and the only shame is that you won't get to experience it.

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>>161994108
I call things I don't like shit too anon.
Like his opinion. It's shit.

>>161994498
Well I disagree

>>161994229
only the ayys, including a sectoid
no humans

>>161994609
Well fug u
Wait, are you saying his opinion isn't shit?

>>161992039
>>161992152
>>161992453
We got everything we were promised, but it turns out that it was just okay.

I have no regrets about buying it and enjoying it. It was well made. But the truth is I enjoy X-Piratez more than XCOM 2, because I have more agency.

XCOM 2 is The Force Awakens of XCOMs.

>>161995048
Yes and no. I just think that you can decide you don't like something, but also recognize that it's still an objectively good/well-done/fun etc. for people other than yourself, and that you just have different tastes. I can't handle spicy foods so I don't enjoy them, but I know that this isn't because spicey foods are objectively bad.
LW is objectively good, but not everyone has to like it just because it's good, because it delivers an experience for a specific type of player and is not for everyone.

I don't care if he doesn't like LW, his opinion becomes "wrong" when he decides that the reason must be because it's shit.

>>161995543
>his opinion becomes "wrong" when he decides that the reason must be because it's shit.
But it IS shit, anon. Just because you and a handful of other nerds in this general like playing it doesn't make it good.

>>161995668
>But it IS shit, anon
Oh boy, pretty convincing argument, I'll have to really ponder the very concrete argument in this post.

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>Annette has green eyes
Why did it took me so long to see this

>>161986702

Chief thing I disliked with long dong was just the duration of fatigue. When I scaled it back by about 50-75% I was happy with it.

>>161995095

I think by virtue of the setting choice they dug themselves into a corner. Xcom "modern" is the de-facto xcom for people. When you venture off the reservation it can leave people uneasy - whether handsome solomon with terror from the deep or those of us turned off by the near future resistance angle. I use to criticize Solomon's comments about TFTD not jiving with him because of how otherworldly it was but I can see where he is coming from when I am in one of the advent shiny chrome cities.

And there's this weird paradox where on the one hand I love the map generations and the fact that we have them but on the other hand I get this tunnel-vision mode where I don't care to consider the greater map, I just narrowly focus on cover and movement and all that.

I know why I liked Xcom2012 in various ways over Xcom2 but I can't for the life of me quite articulate why.

>>161995985
Shit piled on top of shit is still shit, anon. The base game was flawed. The mod tried to fix it by bloating it with redundant crap that wasn't even in the game that spawned the fans to begin with.

>>161996194

Oh one area that I clearly know why is landed UFOs. They were one of the most tense operations you could have in Xcom2012 and I liked the variety of UFOs. It felt almost like alien/aliens/space hulk in clearing them.

In xcom2 you get 1 landed UFO and with the mod that adds them you still get 1 medium UFO that is made of paper mache and easily has the entire map's pods fall down on you. AND you get 6 turns to rush in and turn off a console or either the map ends or something bad happens.

That's one thing I really want in the expansion. More landed UFOs or something of a half indoors half outdoors facility.

>>161984212
Yeah I noticed that, my GateCrasher was flawless and my second mission was going well, but I was one tile away from securing the data chest and lost the mission. Shit

You know what I'd like? A mod that enhanced the "Resistance" angle XCOM 2 plays with, more precisely the desperation of finding recruits and the anything goes sort of mentality.


I think this could be achieved with a "trait" system. A trait would consist of a combination of two perks, one positive, one negative, which could be chosen from three tiers.


So let's say, a tier 1 perk would be either a small bonus buff, which would have to be tied to another tier 1 negative perk, which could be a situational disadvantage.

For example, "well-taught" could give +2 to aim, but would have to be coupled with something like "bloodthirsty"/vengeful", which would cause the soldier possessing it to automatically open fire to any Dark VIP within 3 tiles (like CCS).

Tier 3 would be pretty good advantages that would have to be combined with a crippling flaw. "Juggernaut" would allow the soldier to shrug 3 damage of one attack each turn, but it would have to be coupled with a pretty fucked up disadvantage, like "Arachnophobic", which would give him a pretty big chance to panic while in proximity to a Chryssalid.

The soldiers would be randomly generated with up to 2 traits, with the chance of getting no traits ("Average Joe/Jane"). For it to be perfect, you should also be able to select traits in the Character Pool, but not the campaign soldier editor.

>>161996081
Because you started shitposting about her cute accent as soon as you heard it.

>>161996336
Shit taste.

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>>161961579
That time of the month. RIP South America

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>campaign ruined by rulers
>extreme levels of REEEEEEEEEEEE
>read that they don't appear until you do the nest mission
>role up to the viper king with plasma and proxy mines
>mines down, overwatch, set i move bradford up
>achievement unlocked: Regicide
>u wot m8?
>Regicide: kill a ruler the first turn you see it
>start laughing as the cut scene finishes and the king is minced
>next mission at black site forge
>cross the bridge and get sus as fuck
>scanning protocol
>queen is literally on the other side of the wall
>back the fuck up and proxy mine the bridge
>tag her with a shredder storm and drag her into the mines
>queen is kill
The Archon King got away with about 20 hp but when I found him in the next mission it was with a long range, blind fired bomb so it didn't activate him, shelled the fuck out of the building.

>>161997419
>mineshittery
MAKE MORE VIDEOS YOU FUCKING AUSSIE CUNT

>>161996958
This is a good idea, I remember the Game of Thrones game for the PS3 i had. You had an allotment of points (30?) to spend into the traits/perk tree, for every point you spent you had to spend the same amount in the weaknesses section (not like a 15/15 break but a 30/30 one)

Think I broke the game a little too, took haemophilia (bad tree) and blood thirsty (good tree), if I took a hit I started bleeding out yes but I also went super sayian.

>>161997813
Anon he's flooding the goddamn internet with videos at this point.
Dozens in the last couple weeks.

>>161997901
Do you recommend it, is it good? How's it called?

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>>161917390

Not that dude but the only mecha series I can think that can fit the bill are the Dolls from Xenoblade X.

>>161997419

So why do Grey aliens love human anus?

>>161998620
Alien enthusiasts have an anal fetish obviously.

>Down to the last push on black site mission
>Lost a granadier and my ranger is half dead and completely mind broken reduced to panicking every single time someone's shot
>fight through with her crying in the back every right.
>squad is reduced to a puddle of poison sludge by two vipers, two mutons, a codex, and a sectoid.
>all that's left is one viper and the sectoid with two health left. It's all up to my ranger to hold out
>gets over her fifth panick today, and guts the sectoid while putting an entire building between her and the viper
>viper grabs her from across the map and two full fucking walls and constricts her to death
I told myself I wouldn't save scum this but seriously, go fuck yourself.

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>>161999074
Shhh

>>161999747
>ywn not struggle against a viper

>>162000023
You don't know that. XCOM 2 takes place in 2035 right? We don't know when exactly Vipers came to this world

>>162000197
Alien invasion should have started last year though.

>>162000358
I bet they're saving it for 2017; the universe has to one-up 2016 somehow for sheer HAPPENINGS

>>162000673
I've heard there is supposed to be a big happening this Christmas.

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>Disoriented enemy crits and kills my soldier in smoke

>>162000984
>Christmas Eve
>all of /xcg/ gets a Viper in their stocking

>>162001346
Finally, a chance to practice the blade.
Yay!

>>162001834
>destroying your present rather than returning it, or regifting it to someone else
That's not the Christmas spirit, anon.

>>161997386
L-SHAPED HIGHWAY YOU'VE BETRAYED ME FOR THE LAST TIME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>162002161

>>162000358
>>162000197
>>162000673
That's because they started as thin MEN

>>162001270
The game only rolls for shots once.
So if it has a 20% to hit and a 15% to crit, that's actually a 20% to hit and a 75% to crit.

If they have a 10% to-crit & a 10% to hit, it'll be a crit if it hits.

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>>162002325
HALP

>>162002380
Are you sure the female vipers didn't already exist, and that the thin men aren't just male vipers manufactured to look like humans? I feel like making a reptilian species human-like takes less effort than forcibly changing their gender AND making them human-like, and then reverse the process

>>162002915
Worst mission of my life

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>>162003339

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>>162003486
;_;

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>>161996958
Wait there is a mod about that

I have this one
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695216006

That makes each soldier a bit different and makes you think who you will take on each mission.
I have a sniper that only rekts shit on small towns, other soldier who only gets a buff when he is with other with the same rank.
An assault that when he gets injured gets a ton of different buffs depending on how damaged he is or other who is scared of machines but is great killing organic ayys.

Little things like that spice up each individual soldier, add this mod plus Not Created Equally and you get very interesting indivudal soldiers for recruitment.

Also for the sake of it, add:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660665065

Where if the squad goes though a lot of missions together and they become friends, they get buffs between each other because they are friends, but if one of them dies, well get ready to see those mental rolls and whoever was the closest to that soldier, will probably panic.

Also add all these mods with the Guerrilla War mod and you get some sort of real XCOM 2 resistance angle on the whole thing.

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>>162003639
>Brazil and Night Terror mission

Its like poetry

>>162003996
I don't want pottery, I want my men back. It's actually really bad, lost two member of my forming A-Team and 1 wounded for a month.
Things were going so smoothly too.

>>162002468

That's retarded.

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>>162005030

>when you don't want the pottery but it hits you just right and it ruins your life

>>162005273
Yep. There's a mod to fix it back to the old (normal) way.

>>162002083
"Anon you returning your viper? What's wrong? Is it broken?"
"No, she broke me"

>>162003673
>mexicosendsinitsblackopsunitovertrumpswall.png

>>162006940

Seven hundred Advent jobs disappeared over night that day.

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Cyclops mod when

Let's make an overhaul one post at a time, /xcg/! Each post can contain a single feature. Hopefully we'll end up at something decent when we're a few posts in.

I'll start.
>Grenade damage falls off from the center of the blast, and cover stops it entirely unless the enviromental damage stat of the grenade is high enough to destroy it altogether.

>>162002083
>returning such a terrible gift rather than going full vigilo confido on it with your sword
THAT is not the Christmas spirit, rookie.

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>>162007254

>Mind control is permanent.

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>>162007254
>Thin Men

>>162007254
>Cyclops customization

>>162006818
"That's a feature, not a bug"