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Ugly Birds Edition

Permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX?
Yes of course!

>I just started, what should I do?
Get a referral from someone to get free SP, beg for it here if you have.
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
??

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)

If you're new to the game, use this referral link to get 250,000 free skillpoints. No purchase necessary. http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=72cae059-5664-4c34-9236-9c1f45d2dd4a&action=buddy
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Thanks Kevin
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I am not Kevin
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Why are missions with Mach so comfy?
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I should just liquidate all(most) my assets and move to the place the Sisters of Eden epic arc is, shouldn't I?
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x hard tackle
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x Vagabond
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pretty cute desu
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>>161726245
>Punisher
Top grade a e s t h e t i c s doesn't make up for two mids lad.
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>>161726149
Well you should do the arc starting in Arnon. I get anal about leaving stuff scattered around so I try not to have shit all over. You're going to want a cargo extender to hit 150m3 carrying capacity and 120ish dps to finish the arc.
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>m-muh mids!
>muh hull tanked triple webbing novice scram kiters
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>referral link in OP
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>>161726417
I finished all the tutorial shit so I have a wreathe and a thrasher, n' shiet, I'm just like... 23 jumps away.
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Is there a list somewhere of important skills to train and their SP requirement?

I'm tempted to milk a 23m character dry and then dump the skillpoints and some dosh on a new character which I want to be streamlined.
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>>161726554
So long as you know that autopilot is just for setting routes and never using to travel it doesn't take that long. I don't know t1 haulers anymore. If wreathe is the one that's for cargo and doesn't have some ammo hold or shit like that, you can repackage the thrasher and stick it in the hauler. If not, get the hauler that has a plain cargo hold and slap cargo extenders in the lows till you can carry 5k m3.
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>Using a personal referral link

We've talked about this you piece of shit
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>>161726720
thrasher is 5k m3, wreathe can fit circa 6.8k m3 with five extenders, I guess I'll do that.
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fuck off kevin
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>tfw you just copy pasted the op from the old thread and didn't notice the link
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>>161726678
Someone few days ago was talking about a magic 14 (or 21) from some guide. The link seemed sensible though the name is gayI prioritize fitting skills, tank type of choice/race, navigation, and weapon type. Get everything to 4 before you start training to 5. Don't neglect your fitting skills They're not exciting but they're necessary.
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>>161725907
Report OP and make a new thread
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I thought that was normal, it was the same as the last thread had??
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>>161727807
what's the problem
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>>161728227
>mining on one screen
>ship spinning waiting for an Incursion invite on the other

High paced adrenaline fueled gameplay lads
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>>161730428
you make more isk blitzing l4s and you dont have to wait on an invite to start
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>not mining on both
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>>161730545
I've tried L4 blitzing and I just feel like I make more ISK more consistently with Incursions. Does L4 Blitzing top 131M/h?
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Is Karmafleet a good place for a new fellow to join? Not sure what corp to go to.
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Quickest way to Plex as new Omega?
Isn't 15 bucks a month a little expensive for a MMO these days?

My wife said because I can play for free that I shouldn't pay 15 a month.

I didn't want to make this game "how to get Plex the quickest" but I guess I need to now.
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>>161732419
$15 a month is nothing, do with your money as you want. Don't be a whipped nigga.
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>>161732419
Trying to plex from the start will just burn you out on the isk grinding. Sub for half a year and you'll have what you need to grind a plex quickly. Drink three less coffees from some place like starbucks and it's paid for but you shouldn't have to justify 15 dolla.
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>>161732419
>enjoy the game as an alpha clone
>never need to spend money
>you just won eve

>>161731094
Yes. For the past couple of years, the game has been loosing players. So the people invested in the game have been more open to welcoming new players.

Also, the alliance that best utilizes the alpha clone game mechanic will dominate null sec. Alpha clones can have a significant impact in major fleet engagements.
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>>161733052
Yeah, I guess I'll just tell her I don't do anything but work and sleep while she's a stay at home mom and I deserve it.
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>>161732419
It's going to take over five months to max out an alpha clone. By that time, you should have enough for a plex. By then you will know exactly what to train and what you want to do with that plex.
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>>161733163
>earns all the money
Yeah I'd say you deserve it. I don't see why you need to attempt to justify it either. If your kids are small eve is great for playing with them in your lap.
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Fucking hell.

Just met about 5 sabres and assorted trash along the way from null. Killing shuttles and T1 frigs of people trying to get somewhere must be really exciting.

Good thing I am in a 1,97s ceptor and laughing along the way, but camping gates seems really boring to me.
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>>161733421
it is, everyone who does it is gay and autistic
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>I actually got people to start spamming my referral link for me in new threads


KEK
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>>161726879
Thanks buddy.
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>>161734074
How many plexes you got so far, faggot?
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>>161734208
0, only like 90 people visit these generals, and most are vets/people that started already.


Only like 4 people have used it
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>Just wanna mine
>Made a Procurer instead of a Retriever
Fuck man. I fell for the meme.

What is more time profitable, refining ore or just selling it?
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>>161733421
>Killing shuttles and T1 frigs of people trying to get somewhere must be really exciting.

It actually is, you should try it.
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>trying to learn Incursion anchor points
>no VVV in fleet
>FC threatening to kick people not in anchor spots on time

Dank
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>>161734395
>muh anchor

just press approach on anyone, it doesn't matter
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>>161734395
Why don't you VVV?

its not hard just burn to anchor faggot
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>>161732419
>Quickest way to Plex as new Omega?

Scamming would be the quickest.
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>>161732419
>Quickest way to Plex as new Omega?
level 4 missions in a gnosis, FW, gas huffing
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>level 4 missions in a gnosis
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>>161734557

He just said he doesn't know the anchor points yet you spastic
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>>161735020
>he doesn't know the anchor points
>look in fleet
>oh thats the VVV, better anchor on him
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>>161734382
I hope you at least fight the other campers when you happen to meet. Cause that seems like it might actually be fun. Killing alphas in poorly fit frigates exploring seems less so. But whatever floats your boat, as I said, they wont catch me.
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Not being sarcastic, but EVE GM's/customer service is awesome. I think they love their job or something. It shows.
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Does plex price typically drop on the weekend?

I fucking bought 2 for 175/195m just yesterday then the price dropped by 60 mil ;_;
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>>161735594
I'd smash young her
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>>161735126
>no VVV in fleet

Learn to read you spastic ape
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>>161735775
Plex has never been that low. Dunno what you're talking about but it isn't a pilot's license extension.
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>>161736048
I meant 1.75bil, 1.95 bil obviously my man.
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>Someone created a 1000 sell order
>make a single unit sell order at 2.000.000 isk above him
>two other chumps 1 cent me
>The big whale follows

>mfw I caused some shitbird 30 millions in losses with only 110k isk spend, just in broker fees.

Eat shit trader shits
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>>161736264
>>161736048

1.075/1.095bil (before he replies again)
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>>161736349
Okay, that makes sense. It's increased demand. More of them are being bought and the price has fallen from 1.2/1,3 when f2p hit.
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>>161735917
>liking girls

fag!
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>>161734380
Most of the time it appears people pay a bigger lump sum just for the ore.
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>>161736475
Just seems like on the weekends when people get paid it drops dramatically. Last weekend it went down to 1.018bil then shot up to 1.113bil for the week. now this weekend its back down to 1.050, I suspect come monday it will be back to 1.111bil

TLDR: only buy plex on weekends
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How long should you stay with a corp at minimum? I'm not having particularly much fun in the one I'm in right now but I'd be worried that staying in corporations for little time reflects poorly on me.
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>>161737169
nobody cares, do what you feel like
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>>161737169
Many corps with little time may not look good, a few won't kill you. Figure out what you're looking for and do a little research on your next corp.
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>mine since game came out
>using a Retriever since forever in high sec
>Never ever seen CODE. once in my life

Watch out for CODE.! LOL.
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>>161737285
>>161737551
Alright thanks dudes
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Hmmmm, any ideas on how to live in a shattered wormhole?
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>>161735331
>I hope you at least fight the other campers when you happen to meet.

I haven't gate camped in a long time, but back when I did, it never worked like that. There was no point in camping an area already camped by someone else, and the only real fights would be from hot drops.
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>>161739903
Yeah here's one

You can't
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>>161739903
T3d and depot
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>>161739903
orca alt with a normal cloak.
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>orca alt
>shattered wormhole
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>>161741349
Are the holes too small?
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>>161741469
no. Only WR ones
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>You are already managing 0 targets, as many as your ship's electronics are capable of.
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>>161739903
when you want to leave and drop stuff, you do that and then come back. crazy I know

if only all wormholes were like shattered
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>>161742464
You're getting jammed. Look on your overview for the ecm symbol on one of the ships' lines.
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>nobody even bothers getting mad at ecm anymore
>everyone has just accepted that it'll be retarded bullshit forever
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>>161742647
Thanks, but I'm very well aware of jamming mechanics. Just frustrating to be in a lv4 mission where two battleships are both jamming me.
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>Mining solo in a Retriever in high sec
>2 Skiffs enter belt
>Guy says not to be scared and he's just dual mining on his alt but he's poor so he only has one alt
>tfw broke as fuck in game and real life and jealous of this asshole with 2 skiffs

How do I win EVE?
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>>161743410
If you don't use eve-survival.org or something like it, use it and you'll know who to target first to take em out early. IIRC, you get a little time before npcs start e-warring you.

>>161743462
3 skiffs.
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>ECM now has reverse fall off(and reduced range)
>brawling ship buff and easy counter play
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>>161743462
Maybe you wouldn't be so broke if you did literally anything other than mining?
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What the fuck are goons doing?
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>>161744069
I have a wife, child, work nights, and semi-afk is the only way I am able to play.

Wish I was a neckbeard in some basement slugging Mt.Dew and Doritos but I'm 32 and need to pay my mortgage.
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>>161744276
mining an insane amount with rorquals, building an insane of rorquals
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>>161744276
getting ready
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>>161744276
Rebuilding so we can kill their shit again.
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>>161744305
Have you tried VNI ratting?
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What does this mean?
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>>161744430
basically none of their shit died before anyway. nobdoy actually loses large numbers of supercaps
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>>161744457
People are trying to make money with drone AI thingies
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>>161744069
>M-MINING IS S-SHIT
>GET IN A T1 FRIG AND BE A BODY IN PVP FOR MY CORP!

>mfw I make 8mil ISK every time I dock my mining barge after watching Netflix and having 5 minutes of on screen time
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>>161744276
They're building the Palatine Keepstar.
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>>161744436
The hell is VNI ratting?
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>>161744826
Killing npc pirates in null in a vexor navy issue.
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>>161744949
Sounds expensive.
I'm a newbie and just went right for Mining Barge 1.

I'll look into it though, thanks.
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>>161745072
The ship and fit will probably run you around 60-70 mill, but it takes a character that is pretty well-skilled in drones. You'd likely not be able to do it if you're new.
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>>161745072
You'll want to live in null to rat and plex there. Honestly, if you've put your skills into mining then I'd recommend you stick with it. You don't have to go all the way to Rorqual but you'll be starting over if you switch to the pve combat path. Get someplace where you're comfortable with your isk earning mining and then start skilling up as a perfect frig pilot with one race and roam with those to spend that isk.
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>>161745240
Well, I am training to Drones 5 currently just to use the EC Hornets to protect the barge since Mining Drones are useless on a barge.

>>161745412
Yeah, I think I'm pretty comfortable where I am, the ISK isn't terrible and the semi-AFK style fits my schedule/work times.

I play at work, but I'm a night shift nurse, so I definitely cannot be at the keyboard all night.
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>>161745956
>since Mining Drones are useless on a barge.
My mining drones have about 60% of the yield of my Procurer. Once you skill 'em up they're great.
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>Sisters epic arc
>Long
>Loooong
>Boring as shit

Epic huh? I dont think it means what you think it means, CCP.
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>>161746204
ep·ic
ˈepik/
noun
noun: epic; plural noun: epics

1.
a long poem, typically one derived from ancient oral tradition, narrating the deeds and adventures of heroic or legendary figures or the history of a nation.
synonyms: heroic poem; More
story, saga, legend, romance, chronicle, myth, fable, tale
"the epics of Homer"
the genre of epic poems.
"the romances display gentler emotions not found in Greek epic"
a long film, book, or other work portraying heroic deeds and adventures or covering an extended period of time.
"a Hollywood biblical epic"
synonyms: long film; informalblockbuster
"a big Hollywood epic"

adjective
adjective: epic

1.
of, relating to, or characteristic of an epic or epics.
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>>161746204
I don't think epic means what you think it means
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>>161746127
Guess I'll look into them after I stop being so newbie, lots of skills to rank up.
Did you just level Mining Drones for that?
Since I'm only in 0.9/1.0 space they might be worth it.
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>>161746204
>>161746362

Stop being autistic, killing 5 frigates 50 times over is lame. You know exactly what I meant.
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>>161746204
I found it to be pretty much a waste as a new player.

After the tut and the agent missions just get into the game. It's a terrible "arc" and super boring and repetitive.
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>96% signal relic sites
>cant make the signal stronger no matter what I try
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>>161746510
I just need the reputation from it. Thats why I am cranky.
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>>161746386
Drone Interfacing

>>161746531
Some sites require certain amounts of scan strength, try increasing your skills or fitting scan modules/rigs.
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>>161746531
Open the map, find the site, move probes to site, scan, profit.

It's not rocket science.
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>>161746660
If you dont have the strength, you can move your probes around manually as much as you want and never get 100%.

I fly with ... 76? And I can JUST get the hardest site if I move probes manually.
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>>161746610
Should I stack 3 small gravity capacitors? How much is the diminishing return?

>>161746660
Already at min scaning range, moving the probes gave me 15% extra strenght (from 81%) but I just cant increase the signal further.
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>>161747079
>How much is the diminishing return?
100% - ~80% - ~55%

Typically not worth going past 2.
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>>161733242 We did this math last thread.
Without remapping, it takes like 108 days.
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>>161744457
The Silence the informant mission has multiple room

The first room has a bunch of drones that drop elite drone AI worth 10 million

You get 4 or 5 units of drone ai per mission, the mission resets after 4 hours

Doing only the first rooms of these missions gives you 600 million isk worth of drone Ai per hour, assuming you can get enough of these missions and don't finish them.

Google resulted in r/Eve/comments/5frlcj/tips_for_farming_elite_drone_ais_in_highsec/
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>that feel when mining a huge deposit of Rich Plagioclase

See you guys in 5 years.
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>>161748094
Fuck off, she's mine.
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>My battleship's ships dipped to 0% for a second during a mission as I wasn't paying attention
>Station wants 300k to repair 6% of armor damage
>Sit outside of a citadel for a few seconds to get the repairs for free instead
Why do repairs still cost a ton after the release of citadels?
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>>161748684
They cost that much when you could just fit a repper.
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>>161748807
Yeah but at least then you had to refit. Now you just target any of the 20 citadels in every system and click warp to.
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>>161748054
Can you do this in a battlecruiser?
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>>161748054
I used to loot these back in 2014 and they sold for only 500k did I missed something?
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>>161749489
You can. You'll have to complete level 4s until each agent offers it and a BC can do that, albeit slowly.
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>>161749752
New, super-expensive drones were added with the Ascension update, so demand sky-rocketed.
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>>161748890
not all of eve is like highsec
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>>161750123
shit I threw those away for cheap
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When are EMSS going to be changed so you can't anchor them within 500km of a citadel?
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>>161750563
probably never. and if that does get fixed ccp probably won't fix being able to anchor them in a combat anomaly, which is where they always went before citadels
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Is Dodixie the most autistic trade hub?
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>>161751002
>Gallente
Yes.
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>lock targets on 5 enemies
>gun turns off after killing just 1

what is this shit
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>>161750679

a passive tanked afb svipul can orbit the anom inside the field indefinitely, but tanking a fortizar without a battleship tank and logi simply can't be done.

logging in an alt and taking control of the citadel with no means to counter it is bullshit. It doesn't force them to ready a response, and there's no way for the citadel to be punished in any way unless it is vulnerable at the time
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>>161751518
yes very good anon they aren't equally exactly as broken. they are both fucking broken though. ESS should always be on its own grid
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>>161751354
Why would it just automatically start shooting targets?
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>>161752018
That's like asking why would the turret keep shooting at a target, you should manually fire every shot!
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>>161752090

if you set auto-repeat to off, it will do just that though.
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>>161751354
>>161752090
There are several mechanics in the game that would make that a very bad idea. Logi ships have to target friendly ships to rep them, so if they have both a friendly and an enemy targetted they could wind up shooting their fleetmates. And in Highsec it could lead to people accidentally getting Concorded. Even in PvE it could be bad as, if you preemptively target a group you haven't aggroed yet it could lead to pulling more than you intended.
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>>161752525
Thanks, makes sense.
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>>161752525
>And in Highsec it could lead to people accidentally getting Concorded.

no it won't. safety to yellow and you are SAFE.

the drone bunny exploit was fixed a while ago, anyhow.
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>>161734380
Depends on refining skill
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>>161744674
>only 8 mil

>undock from comfy null corp station
>jet can mine semi afk for an hour while multiboxing/netflix/inventing shitfits
>30 mil minimum

>never been ganked
>comfy ts3 to hear all the gossip

It's why people hate miners desu, the comfiness just makes us too smug.
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I want to make drugs. Can you make 'em in a citadel or PoS? Is hanging a citadel same as poses, empty moon and 10 standing with faction owning the space in highsec?
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Does anyone know if Provi still has a ban on carrier ratting?
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>>161755242
They do not.
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I've been scanning whs for pirate relic sites for 5 hours. I've only found 1. You guys are full of shit.
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>>161755865
You and every other alpha. It used to be in the region of 100 million an hour before everyone started doing it.
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>>161755865
There is about 5000 cunts like you doing that. Those sites arent infinite you know.
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>>161755865
Every alpha is doing this from high. Start from low or NPC null.
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>>161756240
I started from a small shattered worm hole from npc null.
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>>161755865
they only spawn in class 1, 2 and 3 wormholes
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>>161756371
Shit was always random. Keep trying from there.
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>2.2b in Jita tied up in sell orders that aren't selling due to bots constantly undercutting me.
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>>161756440
ah, well, fuck. Thanks, better now than never.
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>>161756869
Are you seriously whining about not finding sites without reading about where to find them first? Tell me you are joking.
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>>161756724
Never try to outjew a jew
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>>161755797
So the CVA finally stopped being autistic fags about carrier ratting? Did they get tired of Marauders and Pirate BS KMs that cost more than the average ratting carrier or something?
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>>161757873
CVA are still autistic fags, anon. They enthroned a waifu though, can't tell if that's progress or not.
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>>161757242
I read up on eve uni about whs before I started. They only list strategies for sleeper sites for ALL class whs. I didn't run across any information that implied named pirate sites are only found in c1-3. This game is incredibly wide, it's easy to miss information.
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>>161758038
>they enthroned a waifu

Almost makes up for being retards about ratting for the better part of a decade.
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>>161758149
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>Jumping 27 jumps in a Drake

Kill me now.
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>>161761891
Okay. Where are you?
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>>161762008
Far away from where I want to be, thats for sure. I am off to trade it in for a cerberus. Had I known I can achieve the same thing with this flying brick for half the cost and quarter of the skills, I wouldnt have bothered to train HACs.

At least its going to warp slightly faster.
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>FC has a thick as fuck accent
>Talks so quietly that clicking my mouse overpowers him
>Gets mad when asked to repeat himself
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>2 nights I form up for fleets
>2 nights we get trashed and we form down after the first engagement
I think it's because with the influx of alpha players we cannot just amass bodies on a gate

Specter Fleet last night roamed with numbers in the 90s
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>>161763591
it sounds like one of a few things

you're either a bad FC, you can't get the numbers or your doctines are shit and don't work, or all 3
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>>161763591
Spectre roamed with 90 last night, but got trashed in the first engagement because the fleet split in two because some retard was talking about command dessys two umps back while the FC was telling us to go forward.
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>enemy vigil has tp v
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>tards in local talking about how you can fuck dudes and not be gay
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what fw militia is best to join?
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>>161766285
its only gay if youre recieving
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>>161760898
I don't know what you're trying to say
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>>161763793
I wasn't the FC, I'm too beta to event propose :^)

>>161764037
I was in the Ferox fleet
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>>161766747
I dunno how the Ferox fleet went, I was in the shield frig fleet and nearly drank myself into a coma because of how shit it was.
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Now to make my skill plan
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>>161767000
noice.
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>>161767000
You could choke a dozen donkeys on that.
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[Stratios, AHT Echolocation]
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Faint Scoped Warp Disruptor
Relic Analyzer I
Cargo Scanner I

Core Probe Launcher I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Ogre I x5
Garde II x5

Sisters Core Scanner Probe x16

Thoughts?
Concerns?
Dogposts?
Posts with images are more likely to be read, so have a dog.
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>>161767347
why so many probes?
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>>161767347
What's the point of the cargo scanner? That's not used for any exploration sites, is it? Fit a cap booster, imo. Also spring for a sisters probe, get shit faster.
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>>161767574
>He doesn't carry backup probes.

>>161767689
You can cargo scan the cans to see what's inside them to see which are worth hacking.
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>>161767574
Not him but I've lost probes in the past, so I always carry around spares.

>>161767689
If you scan a relic or data container before hacking it, you can see what it contains. So you can skip bullshit nodes with no rewards.
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>>161767739
>>161767771
It ain't like hacking shit is difficult. Cap booster>a little time.
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>>161756724
Amarr still has bots, but it's not a complete shit fest. The other Hubs lack a (noticeable) robo-jew presence.
>>161757564
ISK rounds at 2 decimals, but you can secretly play the 0.0001 ISK game. It stores to 4 decimals.

>>161746531
>what are custom probe formations
Left is better than spread, better than right for spread, and occasionally better than pinpoint.
Right is better than pinpoint and spread. Careful setting up the two middle probes though.

If you put probes too close together they'll interfere with each other. So put the more focused probe a bit off from the center.
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>>161767853
It's not about difficulty, it's about saving time and being efficient.
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>no geckos
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>>161767921
You're not saving a shitload of time whereas a cap booster could save your ship and open up the 3rd rig. Hacking is easy, it doesn't take long at all.
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>>161767973
~100mil for 400 dps

I don't know how to feel about Geckos in the Strat honestly.
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>>161767771
While its utter bullshit to do mainframe/ruins and get NOTHING, it happens once in a while and is most def not worth the slot.
>>
What Minnie frigs/dessies/cruisers are worth a damn atm? T2/3 included
>>
How often do combat anoms escalate to DEDs? Also, can any rats drop deadspace mods or just the rare spawns at the end?
>>
As its fit right now, that stratios can't fit a cap booster bigger than a small
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>>161768536
If I drop the 1600mm for a T2 800m plate I can fit a medium booster.

If I throw a trimark in the open rig spot I only have 3k ehp less than the 1600 plate fit.
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Can someone explain the difference between different types of capital ships?
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>>161769996
Dreads shoot things
Carriers have fighters
Fax heal things and have drones
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>>161769996
>carrier
>infinite range, does like 2-3000 dps, kills everything
>fit whatever you feel like
>has a broken module called network sensor array, meant to allow it to lock up fighters quickly so it can shoot them, but in reality it's used so it can lock up small subcapitals quickly and further break the game

>dreadnought
>siege module is mandatory, makes it not move and cannot receive RR
>if proper guns it's meant to shoot capitals and structures, but because webs are broken it can really shoot whatever
>it also gets meme guns that are like battleship guns because of idiots

>fax
>triage module is mandatory, makes it not move or receive RR, also locks fast
>fits big tank, reps people
>they all look fucking retarded

I can't even remember what supercapitals really are meant to do. they're all broken overpowered and kill fucking everything and have ridiculous tanks btw
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Why does every fax have the same awful design
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>>161770252
>>161770449
Thanks anons
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>>161767910
Thanks
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>>161768830
If you switch the rig to a medium ancillary current router you get to keep your plate, fit the medium booster and fit a small neut in the empty high slot. Also upgrade your fitting tool or switch to pyfa, I recognized your neut and nos names but couldn't find the fuckers because ccp changed the names for reasons, I guess.
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>>161771296
Its an older fit given to me by a corpie, I just opened it up in the simulator then pasted it here. Thanks for the advice though, just started playing again and I'm a bit out of practice with fitting ideas.
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YOU FAGGOTS DIDNT TELL ME THAT GOING TO PERIMETER = PAYING 20 MILLION LESS PER BROKER FEE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
So much wasted money
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>>161771472
No problem, also, you got neuts and a nos and you're cruising at ~1500, fit a scram II instead of the disruptor, I gather you're not actually hunting players with this so driving someone away if they try to kite would be a win and they'd just cruise out of your long point if they were any good and you were winning.
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>>161771607
What did he mean by this?
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>>161771710
I don't think he gets that we don't know his npc corp rep. Isn't that part of brokerage fees? Rep for the station you're in?
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>>161771710
>>161771834
>>161771607


Nevermind maybe its the sales taxes i'm always looking at.

Could have sworn when I wanted to make a sale/buy contract for plex it said it was going to cost 24 million
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>>161771708
Will do.

Also, with the Medium Ancil I need a 2% implant for the 1600 and med booster. But they're cheap so w/e
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>>161772050
Disregard that, I just realized that the new equivalents of the Neut and Nos on that fit fit easier so no implant needed.
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>>161772050
Get yo fitting skills right, pyfa showed it 8 mw under and I just have it set up for lvl 5 skills, in implants. Not too important though.
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>>161767910
where is the eight probe on the right? in the middle with just a smaller bubble?
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>>161772747
>Careful setting up the two middle probes though.
>If you put probes too close together they'll interfere with each other.
>So put the more focused probe a bit off from the center.
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>>161770449
Super are basically carriers with big boy fighters that don't fuck around and very strong EWAR/Projected EWar and have autism tank.

Titans are deads that don't need to siege, have DD, some unique grid wide links and can bridge subcaps to cynos.
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whats a good cov ops exploration ship / fit for wh space?
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>>161770449
>carriers can lock things fast now
I know ccp aren't always the best at making decision but wtf is this shit?
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>>161773787
A covops fit + relic analyzer.
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>>161773946
thanks friend, im new and exploration seems to be the only thing i can reliably do that interests me in the game
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>>161774013
Bring a cargo scanner too.

If you want to do data sites then don't want to do data sites, you can brig a mobile depot to fit a data analyzer.
Only worth it if you find a really good data can while ratting though.
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>>161774159
can i use cargo scanner in stealth?
>>
Is it worth to play EVE for free or are the limitations too harsh?
>>
>hack a data site
>rats spawn
>whatever ill just warp out
>continue to do my thing until they start locking me, then i initiate warp
>mfw they one shot me

pwned
>>
>>161774408
Is that OR or XOR?
Yes to the first, no to the second.
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>>161774408
too harsh, you might have fun now and then but you will see the limitations fairly soon
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>>161775171
Yes for both then i suppose.
Oh well, i'll give it a try
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>>161774408
>are the limitations too harsh
It really depends on what you want to do. There are some things you can't do, something things you can do and something things you can do, but do it worse than paid accounts.
>>
>tfw you will never marry paquito and have him princess carry you across the threshold while passive aggressively complaining in his annoying voice

Why even live?
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>>161775862
kill yourself faggot
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pastebin.com/PCH2i8Sy I'm so hard right.
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>>161776332
>muh spies ruining my good game
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>>161776332
what am i looking at here?
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>>161777148
autism
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>>161744276
So what you're saying is I should make a jump clone in delve if I want to mine because these guys are brain damaged?
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Is this tumor ass looking french piece of shit really what gallente players got to look forward to when they get to cruisers?

That's just discouraging, man
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>>161744276
PALATINE TIME
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>>161777148
>>>161776332 (You)
>what am i looking at here?
CO2 about to get fucking rekt because "spies" 300B goal post in M-O gonna go pop
>>
Are drone sites worth running?
>>
who brave here
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>>161782105
im pussy
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>>161779332
Its only their EWAR cruiser.

There gunboat is a flying dildo
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>>161767000
As a new alpha.. can I please have one?
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>>161767000
gib? gib? gib! heuheuhueh i wardec u
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>>161744276
They want that dank Palatine Keepstar

When it goes up they're going to have every member of GSF in system helicopter-dicking to keep the rest of null at bay.

>24hr anchoring for the most expensive thing in game

It's gonna be a fun day.
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>>161782915
Sent :)
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>>161782105
I'm BRAVE
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Anyone here selling a SoE (female) combat suit?
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>>161783107
Whats your offer
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>>161783137
does 65mil sound reasonable?
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>>161783203
Sure, contact Vanna Izia in game and I'll contract it to you
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>>161783589
Sent you an EvE-mail, hopefully that's ok.
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>>161783906
Contract is up, enjoy your armor
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>>161781992
Why the hell are you in the drone region?
EVERYTHING there is garbage.
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>>161783092
just joined a couple days ago, i'm liking the atmosphere but i'm not good at anything yet. can't decide if i want to be an industrialist, an explorer, or... what. i dunno. can't rat for shit, either.
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>>161785087

I'm in guristas region but I often scan down sites like Independence that the wiki says is drones.
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>>161774013
Exploration was the one way of making isk that kept me interested too. It's the random jackpot win mixed with the danger and need to keep on your toes because it's only worth doing in null and w-space, I think. I recommend moving to stain. It's npc nullsec so you can dock at the stations. DSS-EZ is the first station there after catch, iirc. You can auto link it and hop in a covops and move out. Just never warp gate to gate and invest time in making bookmarks on gates for getting your haul out safely.
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is the sisters of eve combat suit a scam?
doesnt show up in market or contract search, and is only spammed in jita scammer chat
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>>161785936
Its a real thing
>>
ay how come amarr gets all the skins
>>
>Friend convinces me to try out a blitzing Mach
>its hot garbage compared to the Barghest

The one advantage this thing has is that it didn't cost me my first born child but it's just awful
>>
>>161786405
the mach is better, the problem is you
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>>161785936
It's a cosmetic item, never appears on the market for whatever reason and Jita spammers always overprice it by 30-50mil.
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>>161786054
>>161786772

Thanks. Where do you get it?
Whenever I google eve items I can never simply find an origin of the item, just countless price history sites
>>
Man, Rens is fucking dead.
>>
So how big a ship do you need to take on the groups of 3 Autothysian Lancers you often see roaming around? They're only Cruisers according to the overview but them being non-aggro makes me think they may be stronger than usual.
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>>161786553
Either you're full of shit or the fit I was told was "better than your shitty frying pan" is a complete shitfit.
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>>161787294
screen your fit for our amusement
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>>161786989
Bought with Project Discovery points + ISK at a Sister's Of Eve loyalty point store.
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>>161787357
Should I kill my friend?
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>>161787381
>>161786989
37.5m ISK, 75k AK

I HOPE YOU LIKE CELL RESEARCH
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>>161786114
Literal master race.
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>>161787505
>NOR POLARIZED
>ARMOR
yes
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>>161787505
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>>161787505
>meta guns
>armor fit
>geckos
kill your friend asap
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>>161787573
Alright cool.

Whats a good Mach fit? I bought this stupid thing I may as well use it.
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>>161787178
People say Hek is the one hub now, rather than just the one where low sec status pilots go to overpay.
>>
>is this Mach a shitfit?
>yes kill your friend

>ok what's a good Mach fit?
>*crickets*

Thanks /eog/
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>>161788492
I don't know what you were expecting.
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>>161732419
there is no activity in the game that can earn more isk/hour than just working at your irl job

except for autistic PI, you can make a few bil a month playing only a few hours a week
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>>161788492
I dunno. Guns and a tank and shit. Slap on one web, at least.
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>>161789258
theres no reason to put a web on a blitz mach
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>>161789426
I'm sure some missions want at least one frig killed to progress.
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>>161789529
Drones
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>>161789583
Okay, then he needs to fit guns and a tank and shit.
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>>161746767
>>161747079
a brand new character with just the starting skills + 2 gravity rigs + the basic probe launcher and probes has enough scan strength to scan down the hardest relic sites

you either need to git gud, or you are trying to scan down sleeper cache sites
>>
Is there any point in using a Raven over a Drake if I can't fit T2 launchers yet?
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>>161756091
they do respawn almost instantly though, but in another system
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>this wormhole is on decay and probably wont last another day
How safe is this?

>>161789924
I had only 1 rig. Once I got a second one I was able to scan everything without too many issues.
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>>161790226
Not eol
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>>161790226
probably won't last another day is between 24 and 4 hours
on the verge on dying is 4 hours
about to dissapate into the ether is like 10 minutes or something i dunno
most wormholes start out as won't last another day, as long as you pay some attention you'll be fine
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>>161790745
>on the verge on dying is 4 hours
no thats <10% mass

end of life is <4 hours
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>Delve imports

How long do you guys think until they stick their Palatine down?
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>>161790597
>>161790745
>>161790853
>enough time to get in and loot whatever it has
Neat. Now I just gotta pray for pirate sites.
>>
>Palatine keepstar

How long do you guys think until they their Palpatine blows up?
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>>161792621
Two days.
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>>161792621
Sheev will last for ever.
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I'm in a moral quandry, and am not sure how to approach this.

I've found a lowsec system, fairly quiet and quite resource-rich. If I were to make a corp and attempt to build it up into a profit machine, how long until someone finds it out and starts to piss on the parade?
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>>161795614
Just go to Mya, great system.
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>I'm in a moral quandry
>moral
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>>161795804
>Mya
Just looked it up in dotlan, this place blows it out completely.

>R16 moons
>Two highsec gates within ~20,000km of each other
>Ice one system out
>Basically every PI item available in system

>>161795983
It's a slight moral quandry since I'd have to shove one alliance off of the pocos and another off the Technetium moon. They're already not happy with me siphoning their goo.
>>
Dead game
>>
>tech moon
>thinks he won't have every group going apeshit on his ass when he starts jewing it
>>
>>161796068
>I'd have to shove one alliance off of the pocos

Tell me more, I am very interested in this.
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>>161796120
how would they even find out unless he starts selling in-system?
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>>161796219
Pretty much every moon hasn't already been mapped at least twice?
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>quandry
*quandary
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>>161796247
correction: why hasn't it been wafflestomped by some bigwig corps, then, and/or what would even give a shit if some minor power struggle occurs?
>>
>>161796219
I'd probably do the smart thing and take it to a neighboring market hub, to mask where the tech is coming from. Or just move it to Jita.

>>161796120
>>161796219
>>161796247
>>161796417
Shockingly this POS just came up within the last week or two. It almost seems like it's a lucky hit, since it was the first moon on a planet.
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>>161796417
Might be a third party, side gig of some director.
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>>161796473
>Another tower just deployed right now

I feel I'm too late already, and it'll just be a fight for anything decent.
>>
>>161795614
what sort of profits are you talking about?

I know PI can get pretty crazy and earn billions a month, how does moon mining compare?
>>
>>161787505
>armor pve fits
>not T2, probably shit skills
>wasting the extra high
>3 hyperspatials instead of dmg mod with hyperspatials
>cap booster pve fit
>meta 0 ammo
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>>161797918
>how does moon mining compare?
Wars are fought over good moons.
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>>161787698
Don't do polarized mach, you need good skills and to not be braindead, you seem to be missing both requirements.
Something like this is good blitzing machine.


Nos, Neut or SB for high, you should know which is the best.
Replace damage control for nano if you're not a shitter
replace the ccc with speed mod if you're not a shitter
at some point you transcend into polarized mach and you become a god...
But then again.
>highsec missions
you're wasting your time.
>>
>>161797918
I legitimately have no idea. Given I was siphoning 54 Tech an hour from this mining operation, and he was just pumping it directly into a silo on a basically naked tower, I'm guessing fuel needs are fairly low and a full bay can last for months. And with Technetium being ~3300 ISK each, and a single harvesting array gathering 100 an hour...

Granted, there's more money in better moons (R32/R64) or moons with reactions (Technetium/Platinum on the same moon, for example) but for a lowsec island with little to nothing in jump range of it, it seems like it'd be worth getting a group up and running to see what mischief can be pushed about with it. Especially with the new Industrial Complexes, and those dank lowsec rig bonuses...
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>>161798624
and replace EM ward if you don't need it.
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Does nobody update EvE-University fitting pages?
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>"Eagle is strictly a railgun platform"
>Both fits are blasters.
>>
So I have to be either blind or retarded, but for the life if me, I cannot find which LP store has Scorpion Navy Issue. Any suggestions?
>>
>>161800335
https://www.google.nl/?q=scorpion+navy+issue+store
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>>161800335
Wait for a cure or shoot yourself.
Make sure to have someone else ready the weapon, and touch it to your head so you know your aim is true. With those issues you can't take any chances.
>>
>>161800335
>Scorpion Navy Issue
>Navy Issue
>Navy
I wonder what Navy they mean.
>>
>>161800335
Factional Warfare, side with Caldari
>>
>>161732419

Go full autism and farm mini skill injectors.
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>>161800484
I am looking at Ellatha Caldari Navy store and I dont see it, I also looked at all the other corporations in caldari space.

>>161800528
Its for FW? Well, shit. Thanks.
>>
>>161800575
>Its for FW?
It's *from* FW, yes.
>>
>>161800575
Check your filters. Make sure you're not looking at "What I can afford" since I'm sure it requires a UUC chip and a Scorpion, along with the LP and ISK to purchase.
>>
>>161800626
>Its for participating in faction warfare?

I know, shouldnt shorten shit that much.
Well then, I guess I am buying it for hard cash.

And as a bonus, I am not blind! Still retarded tho.
>>
I am at like 950 mil ISK and kinda just wished I spent the money on a month of sub and then bought plex from there. But at this point since I have come so far I am not gonna give up now.
>>
>>161802087
Spend the next three months or so training passive income.
>>
Is there a min requirement to join a WH corp? How much money would you need to start if there's one?
>>
>>161802321
Maybe I should ask what do I need to be useful there instead.
>>
>>161802321
Depends on the wormhole corp.
It's generally not a good idea for complete newfags to go live in wormholes, but it has worked out for some of our people who are actually intelligent.
>>
>>161802209
Well its not that I don't enjoy my sources of income, its just that it sucks seeing how inefficient you are as an alpha at them.I am definitely going to get into PI at some point though.
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>>161802087
Just buy a sub if you have the money, having to grind out a plex every month is an easy way to get burned out.
>>
>>161802520
>Well its not that I don't enjoy my sources of income,
N o , Y o u D o n ' t U n d e r s t a n d !
You can do passive income *on top* of what you're doing right now.
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>>161802409
Im guessing it works if there's someone to coach the newfag in question. Why is it a bad idea? I was considering it because highsec isnt very profitable and moving into nullsec without knowing anything about it doesnt seem very wise.
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>>161802617
Wormhole life requires all sorts of player skills on top of regular eve knowledge. You need to know how to move around without drawing attention, how to d-scan properly, etc. Goes without saying that there's a shitload of scanning, too. Additionally, logistics can be trickier, and so most wormholers have a dedicated DST hauling alt.
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>>161732419
As an Omega I am not sure. As an Alpha its definitely killing NPC pirates (ratting).
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What is your opinion on getting into industry? I heard someone in one of these generals say, that these days, getting a profit is incredibly hard and not worth the mountains of effort.

But still, I always liked crafting in games...
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>>161802617
High skill requirement in all fields.
Scrubs cant scan fast, earn money in whs, or fly the meta.
Also one account is tough as nails for w-space. I have three. Most in my corp do.

>>161803001
High upfront cost. Im slowly amassing many billions in capitals bpos. Profit is good.
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>>161803001
Depends what and where are you sellling.
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>>161803001
Join a null sec corp. Stocking the market and fulfilling contracts is a big deal in null sec. Generally everything is worth more than Jita prices.
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>>161802735
>>161803048
So I'm better off joining a low-nullsec corp or something. Thanks for the info.
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>>161803048
So how big wad of cash would you recommend to get into it at a reasonable level?
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What are PI's, how profitable are they, how safe are they?
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>>161803581
depends what you want to make

capitals are pretty much big dollar investment
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>log on
>isk on main has doubled overnight from buy orders

Feelsgoodman.
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>>161803625
Planetary Interaction

the ultimate form of autism
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>>161803626
Well I am going to to build skills as I go. Even if I had the cash to get capital BPOs, I would lack the facilities and skills to produce it efficiently.

Would you say a billion is enough to get going in producing everyday items that tend to blow up? Rigs? Ship equipment?
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I like this character creator, it is a nice creator.
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>>161803625
>What are PI's,
Air drop buildings on a planet. Wait. Come back to pick up materials.
>how profitable are they,
Harvesting is occasionally worthwhile in null. Processing is always good money.
If you own the Player owned Customs Office and *only* do processing, you can earn a little more than a PLEX per month.
>how safe are they?
You have to warp to the planet to pick up materials from harvesting or processing.
You have to warp to the customs office while carrying bulk materials to do processing.
You can do everything else while spinning your ship.
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>>161804098
Sure is
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>>161804248
Shepard.
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>>161804136
>Player owned Customs Office
*Player Owned Customs Offices, one per planet.

>you can earn a little more than a PLEX per month.
*per character. So 3 PLEX per month per account, if each characters does PI.
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>>161804098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHSNZK4Je-Y
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>free isk
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>>161804736
>elite pvp
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>default theme
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>Phantasm
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>do relic sites, don't do data sites, they said
>6 (SIX) data sites in a row
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>>161805731
Well yeah, because half the people dont bother with them. You are welcome to do them, if you dont mind shitting up your cargohold with trash worth quarter of what you get from relic sites.
>>
oneiros
>>
>standing rises to over 5
>accept lvl4 mission, why not
>solo able actually 2 missions
>accept third one
>dont read mission description
>warp in
>it is a supercarrier with 3 fighters and warp disrubtors


Space is scarry when you dont give attention, that Vexor survived fucking long
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>he accidetaly burner Antero
lol fag
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>>161808118
>lol fag
alphafag and still learning
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>>161809130
>Bling shit everywhere
>Civilian Shield Booster
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Is buying 60 GTCs and converting them to plex no longer a thing?

no wonder PLEX prices are ridiculous when CCP now forces you to buy PLEX at £15 a pop
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>>161809130
so many things wrong with this, jesus
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happening
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>>161809674
>gallente skin never
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mfw no.gf pilot comes into /vg/ and tries to claim I got banned for sending out standard Aussie banter mails to members of no.gf and they had to report me to a Gm cause it violates their safe space and the Gm did nothing

Protip, I just quit this shit game to continue my progress in life, enjoy stagnation cucks.
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>>161809674
>more Amarr skins
Making a ton of skins for their ships won't make lasers any less shit, CCP.
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>>161809674
>frigates
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>it's a johny meme keeps returning episode
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>>161809798
Perhaps trolling an autistic alliance is the only good content left in this game
>>
>it's a johny meme thinks he's trolling episode
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>>161809903
All I need todo is join your Comms and you guys go on a aspie rage, if that's not trolling I don't know what is

But hey, I'm not the one sitting around bumping a dead thread to try and get recruits for a dead game.
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>johnny meme claims he is not banned
>doesn't log in
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>>161810324

>say I quit the game
>some random guy tries to call me out on not being logged in

What a suprise cunt
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just log into your alpha johnny
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>>161810512
I'm not going to get out of bed, turn my pc on and log in just to prove I'm not banned. When I was logged in about 3 hours ago.
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>only a couple hundred of expensive item on market
>buy it all
>relist for higher
who /devilish/ here?
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>>161811669
>get undercut a few moments later by someone with a few thousand units
>they were waiting for someone to try that so they can get profit from someone buying, as well as undercut

huh, that doesn't sound like a bad tactic actually
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>johnny meme actually got banned
lmao he needs to spend more $$'s to get another main now won't he
>>
Whats a good faction to play as if I don't wanna be a dumb faggot and I like shields?
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>>161811823
Kek, did Johnny really get an Ebay account?
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>>161811812
what is price history?
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>>161811861
Caldari
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man, solo null is stressful, especially in an uncloakable exploration frig
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>>161812753
just buy a plex goy
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>>161813056
I'm afraid of losing interest in the game after I hit 100mil in savings
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>>161812753

You mean a normal cloack? You can fit that in an exp frig
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>>161813082
haha

ah hahaha
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>>161813121
alphas can't train cloak
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>>161813121
not for alphas
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How much Isk should I have saved up before I apply to one of the big nullsec PVP corps? Is 5 mil enough?
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>>161813267
I mined for like two hours in hi-sec and that gives like 10m~ ISK, the fuck are you doing?
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>>161813373
venture veldspar mining gives like 1.5mil/hr, what are you mining in
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>>161813406
r.plagio in 0.9 just dumping the ore into sales gives about 1m per load in a venture, my numbers might be off
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>>161813373
I've done the tutorial, lost 3 Herons in wormholes without making it back home with loot and ran a few of the SOE arc missions before I got bored. Then I bought a Kestrel and tried ratting in highsec sites (they pay nothing).
I guess I could buy another Heron.
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Ganking WH PvE rattles is the best, all these free geckos and deadspace mods.
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>>161813609
Take the venture you got from the industry agent, fit it, fly to a 0.6, find a rich plagio to mine. Mine for an afternoon. Sell what you mined. Buy a cruiser. Fit it, go run lvl 2s or mine some more. Delve deeper into PvE or start PvP, whatever you want.

You can read eveuni wiki while mining to find out what you want to try out next.
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>>161813493
Every time I fill my Retriever I sell R.Plagio for around 5mil, so not to far off.
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>>161814094
There's no point in jumping into L2's let alone cruisers if he just started playing. He'd be far better off mining V.Pyroxers in 1.0 space.

Blitzing missions for ISK only becomes viable once you level up your social skills and find a good agent, until then mining is a far easier and faster way of getting shekels.
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>>161814662
Its also dull as sin and wont teach you anything about the game. Doing some missions, dying a few times and losing a ship that is seen as somewhat expensive is going to imprint much more experience than orbiting an asteroid and watching netflix.
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>>161814823
It's safe and reliable, it makes dying and losing your ship a lot less stressful. L1&2 security missions won't teach you much outside of knowing how to orbit and press F1.

If nothing else he should read up on how standings work before doing missions, it's stupidly easy to tank your rating early on if you don't know what missions to avoid.
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>>161815147
Running missions teaches you more than just orbit and f1, you will develope far more as a pilot by running missions as you skill up than if you sat around with wasted SP put into indy skills doing something you may only ever do once in your eve career.
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>>161815147
Try doing lvl 2s with little knowledge of the game and no skills. No its not as easy as pressing F1.

Safe and reliable are two of the most boring things you can experience in EvE. Mostly because these two mean you are alt tabbed out of the game, watching porn, movies or shitposting. Danger is fun. And gettin accustomed to it is a good idea, otherwise you will carebear in hisec forever.

But hey, he went into Wspace already, thats a good sign.
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>>161815268
>>161815310
You're both fucking retarded.
Mining is THE best thing a newbie can do.
Eat shit.
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>>161815604
Mining is the best thing a newbie can do if they wanna burn out in the first week.

Unless you have a sizable backlog on netflix mining will bore you to death.
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>>161815604
>cant present any counterpoint
>HURRR EAT SHIT

For fucks sake, sometimes I forget every general has retards like you in them.
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>>161815268
It barely takes any training time to get the T2 mining upgrade module (the low slot one), plus it gives you one more thing to do outside of exploring / mission running.

>>161815310
>Try doing lvl 2s with little knowledge of the game and no skills. No its not as easy as pressing F1.

I did, rushed into cruisers, flew a Maller with an absolutely atrocious fit and non-existent support skills and I still breezed through L2's, only ones that gave me trouble were ones with Caldari rats because rockets fucked me up, hard.

Granted I'm a carebear, I enjoy mining in high sec and just talking in corp chat, glancing over at youtube / netflix on my second monitor. Obviously he shouldn't be mining if he doesn't enjoy it, some of us do and it isn't nearly as bad of a thing as some veterans would make you believe.
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>>161815604
You musn't play much Eve or be clued into player retention at all, CCP themselves have said player retention is at it's lowest when newbros go into mining early instead of other forms of PvE. That or you're trolling and equally retarded.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Most mining hate comes from "All these materials have to come from somewhere and fuck you for supplying"
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>>161816207
Well if you enjoy mining, try doing gas sites in wormholes. Thats carebearing with attitude and some excitement.

Anyway, you recognize your fit was awful and you found a situation that presented a challenge for you. Id say you learned more than warp to belt, lock, orbit, press F1, alt+tab
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>60 mil out of a highsec data site
>They said it was worthless
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>>161816301
No, the reason why there's hate is because people try to shoehorn newbros into a profession that is most likely to burn them out early while getting them the least experience and developement as a pilot in eve.

Noone is dying "DOWN WITH MINERS!" or any of that shit, we're saying stop misleading newbros who play eve to blow shit up and see the pretty sights around New Eden.
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>>161816425
saying* fuck
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>>161816350
>I found the one site out of 1000 that gives a decent payout.
>Meanwhile even bad relic sites in null give 20 million and you can find them everywhere in empty space.

Good for you m8, now buy a decent ship and start going where no man has gone before. Or at least last 30 minutes.
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>>161816561
I don't need to listen to you, I'm richer than I've ever been now
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>>161816617
Well you can already afford third of a naked battleship. Trump would be impressed.

gl
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Looking in the corp finder for FW corps there doesnt seem to be that many and even less with more than 15 people in them.
Is this shit dead am i wasting my time looking for a decent sized corp to do dead content no one does?
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>>161816735
youre 8 years late
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>>161816735
Just join the npc militia corp, duh
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>>161789975

Range. T1 cruises can hit well beyond 200km.
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>>161789975
Because LMJD + Cruise means you don't need to tank anything ever.
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>>161819135

That's not true. For example the (pirate) Extravaganza missions have multiple gates where you land right on top of multiple battleships, MJD will not save you from taking heavy damage.
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>>161817949
is this sarcasm?
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What's the most bro Minmatar ship?
I wanna be that ship and fit everyone is glad to see in PvP. Doesn't have to be Minmatar.

Are logis shit? Would you rather have more DPS? Are there any good support roles?
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>>161820085
>What's the most bro Minmatar ship?
>Doesn't have to be Minmatar.
What did he mean by this?
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>>161725907
Just bouight a gnosis as an alpha. am i fucked?
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>>161820085

Scythe. Logis are never shit, unless the enemy has so much alpha that they just oneshot your tank.
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>>161820730

Not really, it's situationally the best ship alphas can fly.
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How long do you guys think the Elite Drone AI bubble will last?
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>>161822480

Already did, sold all of mine for a few bil.
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>>161822480

it will last until elite drone AI starts spawning in data sites or somebody moves into russian rogue drone space and starts farming at a rate that outpaces the need for rorqs mining in belts.
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>mfw 5 caldari navy wasps just chillin' in space
>10m profit for a couple of minutes work
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>tfw planned to roam
>lost mood so just taking ceptor to null to bully cyno alts
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what do you need to scan those?
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>>161816735
Zkillboard to find an active FW corp in your TZ.
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>>161824109

Newfag detected.
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whats the best way to travel between gates without saved bookmarks? newfriend here. working on sisters of eve arc and would like to find a corp but don't know the best way to go about doing that.
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>>161825123

you don't need bookmarks to warp between gates in highsec or lowsec.

that was fixed......a long time ago.

join the recruitment channel, and watch the recruitment section of the eve forums.

don't join a corp with less than 75 people in the corp's attribute list -- you can expect 75-80% of that number to be alts or inactive, and you want to have a corp with at least 10-20 people active throughout the week in your time zone, also don't join a corp that is under 6 months old, you don't want to get pulled into corp split drama or autistfag's first corp bullshit.
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>drones repair itself faster outside
The fuck.
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>>161825770

citadel reps work on drones when you have them in space orbiting you.

the more you know~
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>>161806196
>Data sites
>Trash
>Implant BPC's
>Faction ship BPC's
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>>161825506
i plan on doing null sec / wh exploration after covops finishes training and was curious the best way to go about doing this. i was kind of successful with just a normal stealth drive a few times but more often then not i'd end up getting destroyed for not watching scan enough. got any tips?
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Can I align to something and then stop? For example harvesting gas but stationary and ready to warp away?
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>>161826179
no, best bet is a higg rig
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>>161826296

What about aligning then just going at like 5m/s?
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>>161826070

Learn how bookmarking works, you can easily make a 500+ km bookmark (out of bubble grab range, but on grid) while in warp.

also, if possible, warp to a planet within d-scan range of the gate if there are others in system.

learn the cloak/mwd trick, and combine it with a bit of manual piloting to get through most situations where you jump into a camp.

also, make generous use of the refresh d-scan keyboard shortcut, and an overview setting which shows ships and probes.

>>161826394
you have to be going at 75% of maximum speed for it to work.

without a higgs, you will leave the cloud fairly fast.
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>>161826394
You still need to accelerate to 75% of your maximum speed before you can warp.
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>>161826492
>>161826514

Okay thanks lads

I'll just stay extremely paranoid
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>>161826394
At that point, you might as well orbit the cloud at 500m so you are at speed at all times. This way if something shows up, you're at speed and only need to align (given you have agility rigs)
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>>161826492
but i would stlil be warpign to the gate while making the bookmark and come out of warp at the gate, right? i figured bookmarks are for use the next time you go gate->gate but what about the first time?
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>>161820730

No. Just try to not blow it up.
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>>161826795

The first time is the only time where it's dangerous,

I recommend warping to a planet so you come at the gate from a far or unexpected angle, and warping to 100, and hope you don't land on something that decloaks you.
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What are the best Minnie frigs atm? T2 included
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>>161820730

Fit a 500mn mwd and a 1600 plate on it and go bump the shit out of miners while laughing like a retard.
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>>161827935
Understanding and implementing basic arthimetic
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>>161828924

So they're all shit except for the Slasher?
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>>161829408

Compared to Talwars, yes. There's no reason to fly the t1 frigs anymore.
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>breacher isn't borderline broken
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Who /10% TiDi/ here?
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>johnny meme is banned
how did this happen?
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>https://zkillboard.com/kill/57872975/
Post yfw you're not Siegmund.
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literally who
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>50k players
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
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>>161832248
nullsec meme fight
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>update order in jita
>takes 30 seconds

>running game servers on ibm mainframes
simply ebin game performance
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>>161820085
Why are his pants up?
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Just started last night.

That fucking data probe exploration tutorial was garbage.

Took me like 10 minutes to figure out what to do.
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>>161832751
All the tutorial components are garbage.
CCP knows that the playerbase knows to check youtube.

Also, c >>161767910
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>cant cycle guns
>cant lock your mom
>cant move
>cant see
>2fps
>muh keepstar
blobbing is f-fun gusie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is there actual advantages to different races?

I picked Amarr.
Do they suck dicks?
Can I get any ship as any race?
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>>161833119
Move to WHs
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>>161833163
go omega or quit

game is shite as omega as it is, being alpha will just make you miserable little shit. unless you are a literal autist, then welcome and enjoy your stay
>>
>guy sits in his pos cycling through ships
>couple frigs, a scanner, pulls out an itty v
>starts aligning to thing but never leaves bubble
>logs off


FUCK
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>>161833163

>>>161668514
>>>>161669719
>>>>>161670940
>>>>>>161671345

tl;dr
>>161675267
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>>161833756
Someone put this thing in the OP. I some form or another.
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If laserboats are so horrible like people mention then why CCP keeps them around?
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I'm M-O cloaked.
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>>161834335
because there are people that train the relevant skills to actually fly them well
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>>161834335
Once you get good capacitor skills and t2 guns/ammo they're actually good, but alphas can't get those. CCP has said they're going to rebalance the t1 frigate/destroyer/cruiser lineups to make Minmatar/Amarr alpha clones more appealing, though.
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>>161834335
They're good once you become an Omega so pay up goyim.
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>>161834335
they're not horrible, they're just balanced around being able to use t2 ammo and the other races have ships that are better with alpha restrictions
>>
>bail out from a wormhole because I saw some activity
>check a nearby pirate data site in k-space because its close
>hack the first container
>pirates warp in and oneshot me
Is there any way to know when this might happen or I'm playing a russian roullete?
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>>161834567
Probably a ghost site. The mechanics are different, somewhat like robbing a bank
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>>161834567
Google the name of the site before warping in.
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>Go to a lv4 security agent to work on my Caldari Navy standings to reduce my Jita broker fees
>First mission he offers is Silence the Informant
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So, this is the first Keepstar being reinforced and seeing an actual battle, with the OMG LAZOR and all, correct?
>>
>21m from a single relic can

Fuck ya bud
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>>161834567
>pirates warp in and oneshot me
The only thing that can ever 1 shot you are sentry guns, you just didn't warp off lazy cunt.
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>>161835887
your retared
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>>161835163
>Silence the Informant
whats wrong?
just blitz it
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>>161836019
DONT TELL THIS GUY
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Are sleeper data cans worth clearing out the sleepers for?

Or should I just go for the blue loot?
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>>161835987
>your retared
>your
>retared
Gotta love shitters, they can't even type above 3rd grade levels, how can they ever be expected to stay alive in a game made for adults?
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>>161836130
Most of the dosh from them comes from the blue loot.
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>>161836150
your so ez trolld xd
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>>161835791

just wait until you find 15 intact armor plates in one.
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>>161836294
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>>161835174
Is something big about to happen?
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@161836294
>merely pretending
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>>161836150
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>I was merely pretending to be retarded
since when did TEST come to shit /dog/
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>@161836294
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>>161836019
>he finishes silence the informant
Dude, just do the first room, lmao
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>>161836691
those poor fags that died to sentry guns
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>>161836561
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>>161836768
>ctrl+f "600 million isk"
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>>161836294
kyssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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>>161836897
>600mil
thats too little
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>every single WH has a Citadel in it

And the best part is you can't tell if it's been abandoned because LOL NO SHIELD
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>He's in pandemic horde
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>>161816425

Furthermore, the longer newbros stay in highsec the more they tend to become lifelong carebears.
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>>>161837035 600 million isk
As good as it gets in hi-sec
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>>161837147
The meatshield just got fucking nuked by bombers bar lmfao

I'd honestly join fucking TEST over an alliance built to be literal cucks to PL.
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I wanna join a corp

Should I just join a corp and see if I like it or not?

How do I know if a corp is good?
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>I wanna join a corp
k

>Should I just join a corp and see if I like it or not?
ye

>How do I know if a corp is good?
c #2
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>>161837702
Join any of the big "newbie" corps other than pandemic horde.

Dreddit if you can handle reddit meming.

Karmafleet if you want to join goons.
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>Join any of the big "newbie" corps other than pandemic horde.
Don't do this. They do fuck all but leach tax money.
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>>161837103
> enter wormhole
>see over 500 POSs
>it's completely dead and I farm gas in it undisturbed for over and our
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>>161838195
>joining Horde
The only good newbie corp is Karmafleet. Horde are meatshield slaves, Brave are shit and have no space
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>>161838942
I wasn't saying "Join Horde", stay clear of all of them.
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>>161837702 https://youtu.be/vwAodwkCQIo
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>>161838942
Brave has fantastic FCs and leaders tho
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>>161744674
>Doing anything other than exploration or gas huffing in WH space.

fucking garbage
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So how long until the Elite Drone AI bubble bursts?
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>>161839713
No time soon, hopefully.
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>>161839713
This is the first time I've heard of this.

Why has no one told me of this before.
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>>161840158
Read the thread maybe, ya retart.
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>>161839713
>>161840019
I imagine minetards are going to be shitting themselves over excavator drones for quite a while.
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>do whs for 3 years
>become a bittervet
>bounce around and rmt at end of the year
>stop playing for 7 months
>come back and do LS shit
>end up blitzing l5s
>now bored again
?
?
?

what do. eve is the only mmo that can be slightly fun but gets boring
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>>161840386
>Clear one deadspace pocket
>Get 70m
Nah, this is way too good to last.
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>>161841397
nullsec is the best space
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>>161841723
no
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>>161841397
Back when I played WoW I did "coaching" and carried shitters once I got bored of the game. Its not the best activity but people can be amusing sometimes.
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>>161836897
Jesus, people are still throwing around the screencap I wrote four years ago.
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>>161841887
yes
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>tfw you joined this German corp in FCON because you have really bad anxiety when talking in English for some reason and then you find out they're fining you for talking in local or posting on forums and now they demand you mine 100 mil Isk worth of ore to pay off the debt
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>Tiberius Stargazer of NC. has been passing the time during TiDi by making a chicken pie from scratch, including pastry while using his super in M-O. PL are passing the time by watching fleet members stream Final Fantasy, while Dirk Macgirk is considering setting up his Christmas tree and making pasta and meatballs. This is from a MacGirk secret recipe that he was not able to share with Imperium News

Null being as engaging as ever
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>>161842918
>fining you for talking in local

What?
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>100 mil isk worth of ore

but ore is free
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So for Caldari FW militia who's the better corp to try and join Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry or The Mjolnir Bloc?
They both have 100+ people and what i guess is ok kill boards so does any one have any experience with them?
are they FUN?
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>>161843160
Is the fight happening right now? Sounds like a typical big fight in nullsec
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>>161813216
>>161813217

which is fucking retarded imo
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>>161843514
https://imperium.news/assault-m-oee8-keepstar/
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>>161815604
>What is exploration for 500?
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>>161843212
only if you mine it yourself
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>>161806196

This is why you take a cargo scanner you nerd, cause shit like this shows up>>161826054
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>>161843160
>>161843534
lmbo, I almost wish I'm there
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Are their any good industry tools/websites available that support complexes?
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how is my sunesis fit?
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>>161843534
>Tomorrow will be even worse with people trying to get on the killmail
pls no
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>>161844094
Some Data sites are worth ratting at.
You bring a Mobile Depot and a Data Analyzer to them.
You Cargo Scan the cans while you fight.
If something really nice turns up, you refit at your Depot after the fight.
Otherwise it's back to ratting.
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>>161841397
>>161841723

i did null before whs with nulli secunda. was ehhh. ended up joining few renter corps to steal their corp wallets. was fun. used that to jumpstart wh adventures.

too many autists in null. there are people that would camp a slasher for hours and foam at the though of a 3mil killmail.

i have also experienced 8 hour camps. but, those were russian autists. self destructed after that.

>>161841895

not a bad idea but i kind of already did that with 2 wh corps.

rip
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Just resubbed in like 7 years.

I'm joining TEST since why not. Is there anyone here there I can link up with?

I have 20m SP and I just bought and fitted this beauty.
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>>161844094
Well if you want to waste 2 mids for a tiny chance at a decent site (which you have to scan and fuck around in to see in the containers)... Good for you.

I dont have 2 slots to spare on my dualprop interceptor and I dont want to expose a ship worth 100+m with cargo needlessly.
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>Orthrus
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>>161845063
its an amazing ship
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>>161844925
Head over to M-OEE8, they're all there right now.
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>>161845149
Hey, I can see myself. Good thing I have time to shitpost because of the fucking TD
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Why do large scale EVE battles in 2016 look worse than they did in 2003?
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>>161845256
Because large scale EVE battles didn't happen in 2003.
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>>161845149
I haven't been accepted yet I think I would be shot by friendlies if I did. I have a reddit account I use for Minecraft related shit, but whatever.

I made a declaration to myself I'm not going to train to use capital ships, since to me it seems super unfun and grindy.
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Lowsec fucker here. Was probing all the moons and discovered one was a chromium moon, unclaimed. Would this be enough to start up industry and overtake the system once I get a proper Corp?
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>I've been in M-0 for 4 hours 45 minutes in a logi ship watching everything get alphad

why do i play this bullshit game
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>>161845805
a chromium moon will make about 150m a month, its just an R8
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>>161845860
What about a scandium/vanadium moon? Or is technetium the main cash cow moon?
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>t2 drones just floating around at dodixie undock location
>no one bothers picking them up
Huh
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>>161846001
use dotlan to figure out what rating these moons are

There are R8's R16's and R32's in lowsec, there are R64's in nullsec

Obviously R16's make more money than R8's same with R32's

I think chromium is actually an R16

https://eveinfo.net/wiki/ind~2507.htm

Don't put up a tower for R8's unless your production formula demands it, otherwise they lose money.

Technetium is an R32 material and super valuable
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>>161845149
Did you screenshot the DD?
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What is going on in M-088B, and why is it important?

I just started the game, and am wondering why people have been streaming it all day.
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>>161846701
CO2's keepstar is going down

rumors have it that a corporate director offlined the modules and weapons making it virtually defenseless
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>>161846701
One corporation put up a Keepstar Citadel, a very expensive player-owned station. It is currently vulnerable and people are destroying it. It takes a minimum of 3 days to destroy it, one day for shields, one for armor, and one for structure, and it's currently in armor.
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>>161846701
A fuckhuge multi-hundred-billion-shekel POS is about to get blown the fuck up and everyone is scrambling to either stop that from happening or make it happen.
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>>161845841
smallgang wormhole lowsec skirmishing ftw
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>>161846875
It fired a DD so no.
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>>161846875
It was a ruse. The keepstar fired weapons and DDs throughout the second fight.
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>>161847182
>>161847145
they must have brought it back online, it takes 95% cap to online one of them because it didn't fire anything in the first fight
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>>161847263
It was never offlined to begin with, gigx just didnt fire any weapons during the first timer.

Probably trying to lure PL supers into a vulnerable position before smacking them with the doomsday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-tskP0OzI
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>>161847429
how does that eve make sense? just a wasted reinforce imho, they couldve contested with force and onlined modules the first time and make the losses even more significant

shits gonna reinforce in armor anyway now, so they lost the keepstar for good
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>>161847429
too bad the PL supers are all safe on an Astrahus and GOTG dreads were sacrificed instead
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>>161847647
There's no question, Co2 are getting (have already been?) hazed and the Keepstar is as good as dead. If they're going to lose, they might as well go down memeing.

>>161847727
Yeah I'd like to thank those dreads for giving me something to sic my whore drones on. At least I didn't come away from this five hour ordeal with zero killmails.
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>>161839410
Brave is literal dogshit and only kept alive because Horde gives them space to live in
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>>161838942
grr goon
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The memestation is reinforced into hull
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>>161846237
Dotlan has zero information on this system. I'm probing everything myself.

And I'd have thought that a reacting R16 moon would be profitable.
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>have 1,500,000 SP
>going to buy 5 skill injectors that give 2,500,000 SP
>have 250k referral points

Do I wait until I plex the account and use all the points on good skills, or do I blow it all on shitty alpha skills
>>
Another glorious day for Co2, one of the few alliances taking fights for the fun even though being outnumbered and knowing their structure will come down eventually.
GigX has balls and the loss of the keepstar and their sov is worth the generation of content it has been doing over the last several months for the entire nullsec community.
And it will be even more fun for them taking Tribute back. PH, PL and NC.DOCKED can't be assed to defend anything.
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>>161849960

Wait and get a couple 4/5s on important core skills. Use evemon to plan what you'll use the sp on
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>>161849960
i would recommend decent fitting skills and then move onto weapon skills followed by spaceship command.
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>>161832365

It's because ccp allows thousands of always active market pvp bots in jita.
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>>161833290

It's good to learn the ropes as alpha, but after a few months "plexing up" becomes more and more relevant. At least now there's no pressure, you can plex up for a month and then lapse back to alpha to play that newest shiny game for a week or two (looking at you, no man's sky).
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>>161833296

Haha, you got trolled.
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>>161850293
>>161850324
Thanks senpais
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>>161844545
Anyone?
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>>161851423
Sorry, I am but a humble market-jew, and know not of the logistics of battle.
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>>161851423
>>161844545

there are minor things you can do to improve the dual prop fit (drone damage units will have a better return, T2 the rigs because the ship is already fucking pricey so you might as well get as much out of it as you can), but dual prop is not a great idea for the ship, especially as with a shield fit.

it has a very good align time (for a destroyer), so 10mn fits are generally the go-to option. That, and it has enough mids for dual web fits to really wreck most things you would be willing to engange (t1 frigs flown by alpha pilots)

Otherwise, for pvp, you are better off with an algos or dragoon.

the sune's only real benefit is the prob scan bonus, which will help it farm DED 2's and 3's in highsec. There's really not much else of value you can do with the ship that can't be done better with another hull that costs a lot less.
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>>161852118

Missile/projectile guns and drone bonuses for selectable damage isn't something you should gloss over so lightly.
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>>161850885
>no man's sky
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>Apocalypse
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>he joined TEST
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>still no r/eog plate rep beam omen roam
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>>161848532
What's gotten into your ass buddy? Any reason for hating Brave so much?
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>>161852118
I'll take your advise and do a 10mn dual web fit. I'll see if I can put a 400mm plate on too
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>>161856942
>10mn
>400mm plate

really unlikely, try hull tanking
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>>161857073
Cpu is really short, it works either as a shield or armor

An Ancil current router or a aux core should work
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>>161857547
you don't fit actual bulkhead lows, they're stupid. just fit a dc and hull rigs
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How do i find out where i should be mining?
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>>161857643
Then it doesn't get good tank at all the Bulkhead rigs really don't give it the tank the medium shield extenders or plate can get
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>>161857809
you have no penalties, you have all your mids free, and you've only used 1 low

and if you want to be a 10mn faggot you aren't going to do it with a big plate or extender probably
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>>161857770
Jewing happens in non-Jita Hubs.
Robo-jewing happens in Jita and Amarr.

Ratting happens in NPC/sov null and w-space.

Everything else happens in sov null or w-space.
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>>161857770
undock
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>markets aren't seeded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSGuPGRKUDI
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>>161850095
>I lost all my shit but its ok because content :^)
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>>161846701
It's not important, but nullbears want everyone to think it is, that's the joke.
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>make alt and start training skills
>skills finishing every couple hours

I was scared something was wrong when I noticed his skill queue kept going black. Its been so long since I trained anything that took less than a month
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>A Bounty on Siegmund Ingvalt has Been Claimed
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>>161860626
>kept going black

is it that hard to queue up 50 skills and hit the skill queue cap?

shouldn't you have burned 50 mil or so in skill books injected into him?
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>>161860786
I'm trying m8
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Is All-Out still a thing?
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>>161860968
why don't you join a corp?
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>>161860857
No, the little bar under your portrait fills from black to blue as it trains.

Every time that bar was black I thought the queue had stropped but it was just a on new skill
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>>161861139
we're a mining corp now, go away
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>>161861303
What the fuck happened to WH hurpaderping and comfy af incompetence?
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>>161861389
The WH hurpaderping and the incompetence is still there by the thousands, but now we mine.
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I think I've managed to lose about 300 drones. 90% of the time I leave, I forget to grab them.
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>finally move into nullsec to find profitable relic sites
>get tailed by pirate for a while
>some time later, finally able to explore
>all the sites I've found have rats on it, according to google
>now a ghost site
I just want some easy sites for profits. I've also found many warp disruptors on the way. Do NPCs set those up?
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>>161861629
>Do NPCs set those up?
no

when stuff like that happens and you can't find sites, just leave the region, or use WHs
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>>161861605

You might want to respec into caldari pure missile boats.
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>>161732419
Your wife is stupid.
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>>161732419

Jesus fucking Christ
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>>161861835
I guess I'll do that, or wait for a while for respawns while I do something else. Is there a timer for respawns or its completely random?
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>>161863909
If I remember correctly they have a constellation wide pool respawn mechanic.
So there might be all in one system you haven't checked, but as far as I know, they never actually go away, the pool is the same.
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>>161864214
Well fuck me, I guess I'm out of this area.
>>
In what kind of logistic system does scan sites travel several AU in a matter of seconds?
>>
I dream of making a huge corp if Logi pilots who sell thier services to various corps or alliances for the highest bid, which will greatly turn the tide in mass planned PvP.

Or I could just sit here mining in high sec for my entire EvE life.
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>>161868616
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Is mining in a venture not worth it unless you're gas harvesting?
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>>161869101
one haul of r.plagio gets you enough to buy two ventures, so it's a safe... venture
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>>161869217
i havent been able to find any rich plagio anywhere
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>>161869101
mining isnt worth it ever
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>>161869101
That depends on the other money-making activities available to you. Barges will make about twice as much isk/h as a Venture mining ore, but if you're an alpha barges won't be available to you. As for gas mining it's impossible to give an exact figure on how much more you could make doing it as scanning will cut into your harvesting time and gasses vary wildly in worth.
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>>161869481
so what youre saying is that if i want to stay in high sec its probably worth my time to just get a plex and train to a barge?
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>found a system with a whopping ONE guy other than me and three wormholes
>sitting in a Probe
sh-should I...?
>>
>>161869797
>I'm sitting in a Probe*
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>>161869301
Rich P. Spawns in 0.9. no NPCs will attack you in 0.9 or 1.0
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>>161869729
That depends on how often you mine. With PLEX currently selling for 1.05b you'll need to make 35 million a day to pay for it. If a Venture makes about 4m/h while a Barge makes about 8m/h (rough estimations based on my current skills and fits, your payouts may be different) you'd have to mine around 9 hours a day to make up the difference if all you do is mine, but PLEXing will open up other money-making opportunities to you, such as PI, so it's not something that can really be given a specific yes/no answer.

>>161870506
Only in Gallente and Minmatar space. In Amarr and Caldari space plag only spawns in 0.7 or lower systems.
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>>161870627
>PLEXing will open up other money-making opportunities to you, such as PI,
PI?
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>>161870770
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Planetary_Interaction
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>>161870770 c >>161804136
>>
So i want to start ratting and all i have is a cormorant. Where should i be looking to go? Excluding angle cartel ratting locations. (trying to get rep with them)
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>>161872482
>So i want to start ratting and all i have is a cormorant.
That's not how you spell Caracal Navy Issue, Anon.
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>>161872482
to what degree are you going to get rep for the angle cartel?
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>>161872482
Do you even know what good rep with pirates is for? Make an alt and let it live in curse and run missions for them.
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>>161873116
mainly to get LP and sell faction ammo. i find ratting much more fun though.
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>>161873552
bruuuuh, you sell faction ammo for republic fleet, not angels. The actually relevant pirate ammo only comes from faction spawns and is not in lp store
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what would be some good BPO's to copy as an alpha that cost under 100m?
>>
Anyone running navy BCs with 2 self links?
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>>161874143
Thrasher, just remember to raise the ME&TE to at least 8.
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>>161874889
how do i do that? ive never done anything industry

also do i have to sell the copies as blueprints?
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>>161874792
For gangs and fleets?
Yeah why not.
but for solo?
the fitting requirements are too severe to make up for only 1 person, you're basically nerfing your fit to then buff it a little but not quite as good as a regular fit can reach, this is even assuming max link specialization.
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>wormholes
>wormholes everywhere
ffffffffffffffff
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>>161875309
stop being a bitch and get inside them
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>>161875067
>how do i do that?
Research. Same way you make a copy. Just select Material or Time Efficiency instead.
>also do i have to sell the copies as blueprints?
Presumably, you're not Omega?
Alpha cannot do Invention (turning T1 BPCs into T2 or T3 BPCs, very RNG).

You could use the BPCs to manufacture, but you already have the a BPO so that's wasteful.
Just sell the BPC to manufactures or (more likely) inventors. Or don't make BPCs.
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Started an alpha the day they came out. Just got PLEX'ed today. Never felt as accomplished in a video game before. Eve is so much damn fun. Easily best MMO I have ever played.
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>>161876156 (cont.)

>>161875067
Oh! Important detail!
Invention gives absolutely no fucks about ME or TE.
If you're just planning on Inventing/selling to Inventors,
don't muck about with efficiency research.

Inventors want the max run size the BPC can be made with.
UNLESS it's a ship. They want single run ship BPCs.
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>>161875506
in a PROBE, Anon?
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Oh also blue ice field in Antollare(0.7), I can't mine it so it's useless to me
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>>161837103
look up zkill info and see if the corp that owns the citadel has any kills in the hole in the last 2 months, or anywhere

ransom them the location of their citadel back
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>>161876436
>took you 3 weeks
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>>161858482
>filling out her retarded questionnaire.

I just add to her bounty every time I think of her.
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>>161877309
who?
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>>161877309
i lied in every answer
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>>161877223
>mining afk in 1.0 for 3 weeks

It's the only explanation desu.
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>>161876156
>Just sell the BPC to manufactures or (more likely) inventors.

how do i do this? advertise in jita? talk to indy corps?
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>>161877458
Sexual something something in space ships online.

Because the fact I play/kill female avatars in game definitely impacts upon the way I live my life.
Hence, 500k everytime she irritates me, so this thread has earnt her a mil.
Will probably paint me as a mysoginist for it, but who the fuck honestly cares.
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>>161877223
>>161877751

This is my only character. It isn't an alt or anything. I was trying out everything basically to see what the game is about.
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>>161877847
>how do i do this?
Use your ONE (1) Contract slot.

>advertise in jita?
Anywhere people manufacture.
>talk to indy corps?
Anywhere people manufacture.
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>>161876521
Why not?
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>>161878386
I'm scurred
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>>161878425
jump in, run d-scan before you touch anything so you remain jump cloaked

if no danger, warp to a celestial and start scanning and keep an eye on d-scan

if danger, burn back to the WH to safety
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>>161874143
Here's a thought: Ask local industrialist's what they want to buy.
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>>161878425
Its not that bad, the wormhole FX makes me uncomfortable though.
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>>161878514
>Deadly, unstable, untouched wormhole K162
I'M SCARED
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>>161879501
>Deadly
I've been told to stay away from those. Probably you should stay away form those too.
>>
The Raven is the best looking battleship in the game
>>
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormholes
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>>161879501
>>161879815
class 6

thats it
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>>161879897

No I am
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>>161880035
doesnt the C4-C6 WHs have sleepers on all the sites?
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>>161880153
All wormholes have sleepers in their sites. C5/C6 sites basically need a full fleet with a logi wing to complete.
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so just so I get it right, the red X locations in probe scanning are dead and not useful to even go for, right? I've tried a few and none give back any response.
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>>161880153
Yeah. There are no pirate sites in them.

Also c5/6 may have spoopy drifters

>>161880217
I do garrisons just fine in 2 or 3 rattles.
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>>161880273
I suppose, there's always the exception to the rule.

When I was in Cobalt Edge, I was told to stay out of the Drone Hordes unless I had a carrier or two T2'd Pirate Battleships in a multibox, or else I'd get like 4m/hr and I should stick to the hubs. I used to do the Hordes perfectly fine in a Sleipnir, bagging 12-14m/tick. Some corpmates decided to fleet up with me. They would warp to the horde at 100 and burn away, I'd warp in at 0 and burn at the hive.

Feels good to be a Minmatar.
>>
>Gas Sites and Wormholes: The C6 Experience

I mean if I could mine for gas that'd be fine, but
>>
>>161880261
All of them can be found, just make the scanning area bigger. You will need rigs to reach 100% signal on some sites tho, but it costs less than 400k so its not an issue.
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>>161880843
I clear a garrison in 17 minutes.

Thats 260+ salvage. prob 300 per.
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>>161881175
yeah I figured that out too, but shEESH
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>>161881278
>C6 WH
Havent you read the thread? You cant loot there alone, there's rats that will fuck your shit up. Stick to the C1-C3 WHs and search for the pirate sites.
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>>161881481
I might as well use it for scanning practice, I have enough funds to take the risk.
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>>161881226
I won't lie, that's impressive.

I tried doing C2's in my Loki but I got my head handed to me since I don't have enough DPS because cloaks. Might try again with a shitfit cane, so as to try to have enough dps to clear data/relic sites.
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>>161879897
anon pls
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>>161881771
Rattles are amazing.

Its a very niche fit though
>>
>>161881481
>>161881547
>found data site
>"I'll warp in at 50km, how far away can anyone aim anyhow?"
>melted in two seconds

So, anyone want the scan info or summin'?
>>
Does there happen to be a way to see specifically the most common loot drops in the game ? (for market purposes trying to narrow my searches)
>>
>>161881970
Sleepers in C3 landed hits on me at 75km. I looted a site with sleepers too, luring them 400km away from the site, hoping to increase the funds of my sub 1mil wallet. Once I was hacking the last cache, the fucker warped from wherever he was and landed 20km away from me. Never again.
>>
>>161881175
>You will need rigs to reach 100% signal on some sites tho,
Pretty sure you can (slowly) 100% any site at no training with any gear if you use custom probe formations.
>>
Anyhow, Atlanins has a c6 warp with a shitload of gas sites for anyone intredasted, I only spotted one player structure.
>>
>>161882465
i did something similar but scanned the cans really quick just to get an idea of the loot before committing

it was pretty bad and pirate sites are better
>>
>>161882601
nope.

base sensor strength of an unbonused probe is 40

you need 68.59 strength to scan down the most difficult signature's regardless of probe positions

But of course, if you take any t1 exploration frig and add two grav rigs to it, you get 70.72 STR which is enough for crystal quarries
>>
When should I evolve from the Heron, and what should I use?

I've made a couple hundred mil from exploration and I'm currently finishing up training combat skills for the Astero. Should I stick with that, or pick something else?
>>
>>161884694
if you are already an omega that can fly an astero, there is no better ship for exploration
>>
Can I run C3 in a projectile based Thrasher?
>>
>>161886028
No, but a fessor can do c6 wr shattered sites
>>
>>161885837
What about us minmatar that don't want to use the weapons of our slavers? Would a Loki suffice in this situation, or is the DPS just not there?
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What corp should I join for the best nullsec fun, what corp is the best in lowsec?
>>
>>161886610
Pupper.
>>
So basically if I want to solo even C1 as an alpha I need a Gnosis or something, right?
>>
c1s are ez pz
>>
>>161888397

I can see a cruiser doing c1's if its well fit, I used to do them in an assault frigate when I was extremely bored.
>>
>>161888397
Me and a few friends used to do C1's in cruiser gangs. I think we were spider tanking.
>>
>>161891721
I wish I had friends...
>>
>>161891972
alts count as friends
>>
>>161892284
can't alt if you're an alpha without hardware.
>>
>>161891972
Don't worry, I don't have any friends now. Unless you count my alt...
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>10 day old character in an Incursus warps into my combat site, starts salvaging
>flees
>2 year old character in an Incursus warps in
>gets flagged
>flees

what is going on
>>
>>161892953
what were you in?
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>>161893090
Prophecy

I got baited and I was too dumb to realize it.

I kept warping back to the site hoping they'd return, and the third time the guy came back in a pvp fitted minmatar ship and blew me up.
>>
Does the citadel compression module consume fuel per cycle, session or every time it is used?
>>
>>161893361
how do you fuck up so bad you don't see a classic bait and switch coming?
>>
>non newtonian ww2 battleships in space without orbital mechanics

they will never make a correct space game
>>
>>161893560
I didn't think you could dock up while in a limited engagement

oh well, luckily I was insured
>>
>>161893631
>m-muh realism!
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>I pressed a button and blew up, wuh-huh-hu-hwaaaaaooowwww that's so ssSTOOPED
>>
>>161894437
>take a friend out to teach him ratting
>'it keeps saying action not allowed due to safety'
>tell him he shouldn't need to disable safety to shoot the rats
>he disables the safety and gets CONCORDed
>>
>>161894527

Who did we shoot?
>>
>>161894763
He*
>>
>>161894763
Probably either me or the other friend with us
I didn't notice him yellowboxing me but I wasn't really paying attention to that at the time either because I was trying to keep my noobship alive while aggroing everything
I just kept telling him he didn't need to disable the safety
>>
>johnny meme is still banned
>>
>>161730428
I used to FC for TVP, HQ/VG sites.

Who here wanna high sec incursion? I will FC and we can facroll VG's for decent iskies an hour, only needs 10/11 of us, 1 or 2 logi. (I can fly perfect logi, vindi or mach and I have a perfect booster alt.)
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>incursions
>>
Reminder to complete CCPs homework.
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>>161894954
What's your ign and I'll call you cunt in a mail to prove I'm not banned, don't have the game installed anymore
>>
Kevin
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>>161896017
Maqari faggot
>>
>>161895874
What's that even good for?
>>
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>>161896141
Either way the Gm didn't give a shit, here's a pic for proof
>>
I cant't believe Johnny Meme is banned
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>>161896464
>>
I'm about to launch it for the first time, what's the single thing I shouldn't do as a new player?

The only videos I found are just people stroking the game's dick, boasting about it's player-driven economy, large scale pvp or skill/ship costumization
>>
>>161896687
Is this him?
Will he get banned from 4chan next?
>>
>>161896927
Don't think there is a right way to play the game, or a certain set of things to expect, and you'll do fine.

It's only when noobs get boxed into doing something they don't enjoy that I would ever say they are playing wrong.
>>
>>161896928
No, your the retard for posting about how I'm banned after proving I'm not. And your also a bigger retard for saying I'll get banned when if you look at the screenshot I'm posting From a mobile ip and 4chan won't ban them, it's how zyzz posted after he got banned. Retard.
>>
>>161897000
any skill I should level up 100%, or should avoid.

Items I come up by as a new player that I should always keep
>>
KEV
>>
>>161897371
Depends on what you plan on doing
Pretty much any item can be replaced
>>
>>161897371
>>161897371
Everything you find or lose can be rebought.

The skill injector you get during the tutorial can be sold for 20~40 million (through contracts only), you can skip the tutorial if you don't want to finish it because of that reason, but you can always redo it if you want another one for yourself.
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>>161833276
>>161833276
>>161833276
HELP
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>>161898243
wait you can re-do the tutorial mission? and get another skill injector?
>>
>>161898328
Create a new character then biomass it after contracting the injector
>>
>>161898509
Oh wow that's.. surprisingly unstupid.

Also this thread is going to die in like two minutes.
>>
>>161898326
use the wallet orders you dingus
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>>161899632
>>161899632
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