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Eve Online General /eog/

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Johnny Meme is banned edition

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>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX?
Yes of course!

>I just started, what should I do?
Get a referral from someone to get free SP, beg for it here if you have.
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy
Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
??

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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Thanks Kevin
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Reminder to fly Arty Vagabonds or you are the cancer that is killing EVE
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>Minmatar
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Is it possible to make money trading while not playing the .01 isk game?
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OG memes

Minmatar is the best and have the best ships in the game
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>johnny meme really got banned
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>Caldari
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Daily reminder that the moros is the worst dread and the nag is better than the moros in every field of the world
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>every field of the world
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>Approach the info-shard (120km)
Oh, right, that's a thing that happens.
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>>161900559
>Approach the forward point (50km)
. . .
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>>161899464
Thanks
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>>161900559
>>161900926
OH BOY TIME TO FUCKING GUN IT
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Reminder to hug your Reynipillows tight :3
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Remove Banjo
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>>161902552
That ship is so aesthetically pleasing, ugh, and the wings moving is orgasmic.
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>>161902949
The animation should be a bit faster. The wings have barely time to run the animation with ceptors' warp speed.
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Fug why was it included in screenshot when the ui was hidden
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Where is the best place in the game to look for solo pvp fights? It definitely isn't any of the lowsec regions cuz ill spend 40m going thru caldari and galente fw space and its either all dead or full of giant gangs.
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Ah yes, well done, HOWEVER
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>>161899957
>Ride the ebb and flow of demand, buy in summer, sell in winter, buy during the week, sell on the weekends
>find systems with people doing things and sell what they need, ie smaller mission hubs, lowsec FW hotspots, capital mid points, items required to complete missions, items needed for LP store offers
>set up regional buy orders and collect items via contracts or hauling
>flip contracts (faction/officer items, capitals, fitted ships, hang out in channels like ships)
>buy firesale contracts and sell the stuff
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>>161904253
>wasting your time with that shitty mission
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New player here, anyone willing to give me a plex if I sign up with their referral and upgrade to omega?
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>>161904387
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=00afb31b-8d13-4819-8069-f020834a520c&action=buddy

contact Dahlia Samar ingame once you sub, I'm online during EU hours
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>>161900559
>fly away 30 km

>use warp

literally speedrunning the tutorial here
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Past 24 hours: 57.954M ISK profit

I'm boss
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>>161905247
two hours of tutorial running: 60m++
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>>161905247
>2.5m isk/hr
lmao
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>>161905609
not that anon but not everyone is a loser sitting 25/7 in Eve
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>>161905678
TWO POINT FIVE MILLION INTERSTELLAR KRONAR PER HOUR
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>>161905678
I did level 5 missions and made 600m/h last night for just an hour of play
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>>161905247
Good job Anon, I believe in you. Before you know it you're racking in bigger fatter stacks.
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>>161905247
Doing what?
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>The capacitor is empty.
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>>161907232
Why don't you just run a cap booster oh wait you're amarr lol no mids
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>>161907232
>switching over to Caldari after flying Amarr for months
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>dodixie is infested with bots now

CCPLEASE BAN ALL BOTS
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>>161907769
Forgot my image
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>gallente
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>tfw I manually adjust orders by .1 isk
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>>161904258
>Recently started to haul stuff to null to sell
>50-100% profit margin on every single item
>0 competitors since people don't trade the same items

Haven't "0.1 isked" in almost two weeks, made a lot more profit with a lot less time invested
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Is buying original blue prints worth it if my industry skills aren't all that great?

It seems like a relatively safe investment, 4 hours to manufacture and pretty much always in demand.
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>dodixie
Fucking overprices shit man, what a jewhole

good that in few jumps you can leave this region and have Essence
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>tfw I manually adjust orders by 0.0001 ISK
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>>161907903
There's also bots in Hek.
Idk why, but there are.
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>>161908175
you want red prints
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>>161908292
why's that?
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>>161908175
Manufacturing off BPOs is worthless unless you research efficiencies.
And tying up slot for ages to research has high opportunity costs.
>if my industry skills aren't all that great?
Industrial skills are all throughput or quality of life.

>It seems like a relatively safe investment,
If you aren't using a POS you shouldn't be manufacturing.
BPOs mean a lot more to lose if the POS whiffs it.
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I had seen a chart in one of these threads with people farming Silence the informant mission, well gate activations, which I assume means they are farming it. Can anyone hint as to what is so farmable about it?
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Elite Drone AI in the first room. After that, wait to fail the mission. Do it from another Agent while you wait. Wash, rinse, and repeat.
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>>161906524
Autistic stuff surely
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Why are these generals so autistic?
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>>161909505
eve players are autistic in general
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>>161904258
>>161908140
The reason why there are so many profitable ventures still available in this game is that most players don't care about the market, and treat it like an npc store.

CCP have stated this over and over in multiple fanfests. While market pvp'ers make up most of the activity, they make up a minute portion of the player base. And it gets to a point where many just quit the game because they amassed a huge fortune and just get bored.

>>161908140
>find systems with people doing things and sell what they need, ie smaller mission hubs, lowsec FW hotspots, capital mid points, items required to complete missions, items needed for LP store offers

Alpha clones can easily do this. Profitable station trading requires skills only open to omega clones.
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>Why are these generals so autistic?
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>why is a /vg/ thread for Eve Online so autistic?
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>>161908140
Do you use T2 hauler?

I thought about hauling to null, but every time I fly around to where I live, there are autists gatecamping, so I would get btfo´d.
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>amerifats waking up

time to log off
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>>161909624
Most people ive met are old farts who have kids and shit. Normal folk.
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Test
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>>161909916
I hate reddit, but it seems to be the only place to go where peoppe actually talk about the game instead of making retarded meme-arrow posts.
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>retarded meme-arrow posts
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I'm a returning player with 5 accounts and large amounts of autism

When I last played like 4 years ago I multiboxed c5s, is that still relevant or what are some other fun things I can do?
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>>161910456
Top Jej :^)
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>>161910541
>with 5 accounts and large amounts of autism

Redundant
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>>161910541
5 svipuls
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pirate blops when
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>>161909921
You could outsource hauling if your margins allow it
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>>161900046
>hey i got 30b what do i do with it
>biomassed
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t2 versions of tier 3 battleships when?
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So the Sansha carrier BPCs are Incursion mothership drops right? Where do the other pirate faction capitals come from? 10/10 drops? Events?
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>>161911115
t2 t3s when
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>>161911048
wtf is a svipul
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>want to play EVE again
>have one account currently still active
>want to multibox mine in null again
>multibox mining in null kills my wallet every single time because the alliances I join always get camped and shit and it makes it incredibly hard to just make money and have my accounts pay for themselves.

I want multiboxing banned please. I just want mining without alts to be a decent profession without having to scan down gas sites. I fucking hate gas mining.
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>>161911324
serpentis ones are from an event I think. there aren't any others
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>>161911506
its inferior to the confessor
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>>161911520
Just get a Rorqual and join Karmafleet, anon
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>>161908140
Do you sell in NPC null?
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>>161911604
>small energy neutralizer :^)))
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>>161911604
>
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>>161911683
>small energy nosferatu
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>>161911626
My autistic internet loyalty prevents me from associating with reddit or any of its platforms. I don't even go to reddit when I'm looking up a game bug fix or something and the only available source is reddit. I'd rather just not fix the bug.
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>>161911906
Goons arent reddit retard they're SA
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>spinning my ship
>panel opens next to my wallet
>green numbers appear
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>>161912436
all internet communities are reddit
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>>161912436
I thought Karmafleet was a branch of TEST that stuck with Goons.

SA is fine, kind of, depending on the Mods present anyways. SA bans people for the stupidest shit sometimes because they want to maintain being a "grown-up" community. I don't mean spelling or grammar bans either, those are always funny. What I mean about stupid bans is like banning people for using the terms "chimping out" or "nignogs" when talking about the Ferguson Riots or BLM protests with the mod note being "You should try being a better human being". Its why I always just keep my mouth shut on something awful.
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>>161912827
cerberus is the prettiest non-amarr ship
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>>161913019
kys if you fly a cerberus
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>>161913092
i only fly pretty things, its not my fault if said pretty thing is strong atm

youre just jealous you arent pretty and strong like a cerberus
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>>161904669
Thanks for being legit.
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>>161912808
Karmafleet is led by some ex BRAVE fags. Then again if you're active on SA you could just join GoonWaffe. Or apply to one of the other corps, there are a few that recruit openly and don't carry the reddit stigma.
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Who are BRAVE? I re-subbed recently and don't remember them being around when I played.
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>>161913571
Fly safe anon
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>>161908140
How did you pick your place to sell stuff?

I'd like to haul stuff away, no clue where to start though
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Do you think I can kill a explo fitted asteros flying everywhere with my torp manticore before they drone me? I know I can kill covovopses, but the astero done bay is givin me pause.
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>anti-battleship frigate that's specifically completely fucked vs frigates
>can I kill this faction frigate with it?
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>>161915345
probably have a good shot with SAAR with RAH.
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>>161915401
Well do you see any other ship without sensor recalibration? If so, enlighten me.
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>>161913871
I think they're the Brave Newbies Corp. over on reddit. I was thinking of joining up with them honestly, and eventually maybe moving on to Dreddit.

>>161913591
>the reddit stigma.

I know we shit on reddit all the time, but exactly why is it a bad idea to join them? I was never really interested in a SA account, so I never paid for one, so I'm guessing I'm not getting into Goonswarm. I know there's the two 4chan Corps in the OP, but what are their size compared to Brave/Dreddit?
I feel like it's better to have more people on your side in a game like this, but I haven't even started my account yet, so I dunno.

Actually, I might create my account tonight.
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Is it worth blitzing L3's for LP's?
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>>161915545
Only for standings
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>>161913871
Brave Newbies. They started out as a corp that accepted anyone who applied, were led by a new player and quickly grew to become one of the largest corps in EVE before imploding when they moved into sovnull because their leadership was terrible. They're still around but not as huge as they used to be.

Basically they started out as a worse version of Poitot era Goons with open recruitment policy and ended up as bad TEST.
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>>161911261
Alright I'll be honest, I injected a new char with the money and with the influx of alpha players you guys will never guess who I am. Enjoy Eve fucktards.
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naka bp
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>>161915485
EVE is like real life. The amount of people you want depends on your goals in the game. At a certain point there are massive diminishing returns on having a MORE NUMBERS type of mentality. In EVE, historically speaking, the "Deaths" of major alliances have been 100% because of a loss of identify from taking in too many allies and watering down your community/family.

You need a reason to fly with the people you fly with. There's a lot of shit in EVE that isn't fun, like at all, but its shit that needs to get done. When your alliance is super watered down with random fags then when shit goes down it becomes almost unavoidable that your alliance cracks from a "Well its not "my guys" getting attacked right now" mentality and it keeps people from logging in when they're needed.

The reasons goons are strong, the reason they'll be back, is because they're goons first before EVE. The reason Russians are strong and always will be is because Russians are Russians before everything else in EVE.

We don't have large groups like Reddit or SA because regardless of what some people might say 4chan is way less of a hive mind than a lot of those communities. People here often have widely different mentalities, goals, dispositions, political opinions, nationalities etc.

We don't have massive banners where we can say JOIN THE 4CHAN ALLIANCE TODAY! in a big old 4chan banner.

You have to come to /vg/ yourself
You have to come to /eog/ yourself

We have no leadership and most people that are anons have an independent mentality. They're outsiders in real life, or they're normies and 4chan is their little secret that they keep to themselves.

A community that favors Independence, anonymity, and self reliance is the primordial opposite of the conventional EVE alliance.

You want Drones that log in when told to, that help new players, that follow direction from leadership.

/our guys/ are more of a collection of independent splinter cells filled with autists and missfits.
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>he keeps replying
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>Want to grind to get gud
>Literally cannot
>Have to wait 2 years for some skill plan to finish

Great game A+ glad I'm gimped for years until I can play for real.
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>>161917091
You can grind ISK to buy skill injectors and speed up the process

but with a mentality like that you'd probably still get your shit pushed in by most alpha clones
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How can I become the king of Veldspar farming?
I can only play late at night in the USA so all the good shit is gone by the time I get to play.
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>>161916698
I'm still a member of this community and I have every right to post.
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>>161917091
buy plex
sell plex
buy skill injectors
inject skill
gitted good
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>>161917091
>grind Isk
>buy Skill Injectors

>>161915485
If you want to get into big fleet action as soon as possible give them a try, leaving a corp only takes 2 clicks and each corp as a different culture.

>>161915485
>Actually, I might create my account tonight.
don't forget to use someone's buddy invite link for free SP (and usually some Isk)
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>>161917245
Newbie systems have constantly respawning ore anomalies.

Have at it.
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>>161917282
>An online image board
>"right" to post

I don't think you understand how reality works, retard.
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>>161917481
They do? How do I get there?

Do I need fuckin' probes and all that bullshit?
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>>161917091
This is why I never understand the "EVE TAKES SO MUCH TIME, YOU HAVE TO NO-LIFE IN EVE LOL" people. EVE is by and far the least grind intensive MMO in the game. You literally don't have to play it if you don't want to and can progress in the "game" in every sense of the game mechanics.

You can get both wealth and sp without playing the game at all.
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>>161917691
what other mmos are in the game?
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>>161917481
P-PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS SENPAI!
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>>161917691
I'm interested in good passive income aswell.
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>>161917691
it's also the only non-grinding mmo. you can grind if you like, if you're a shitter, but it's your choice
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>>161918497
>9 days for mining drone 5

It's not grinding but holy shit is it fuck all annoying.
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>>161918257
Get titan
Mine
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>>161918773
wait till you get to 25+
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>>161918773
just play the game you aspie
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>>161904253
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>>161918773
>nine days is long

Oh boy you're gonna hate life when you start training month long skills
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>>161918773
>AWU V
>BS V
>drone interfacing V
>blops V
Lol nigga you gonna die
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>blops V

useless
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>>161919213
decline
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>>161917538
What ever happened to me being a janitor? Now I don't understand how it works?
Your lies ain't adding up
all-out of lies
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Fucking hell, the sansha can kill this fast? I got scrammed faster than if a player was on the gate. Awesome.
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Is it a dumb idea to train cyno 5 and jump portal generation just to move my t3 around or to haul some stuff in a blockade runner? I'm not very good at multiboxing so I'd probably just feed all my ships if i actually tried to gank someone.
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>>161911626
Goon sucks dick though.
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When are we going to have a /eog/ sings Wrecking Machine
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>>161905247
Tell me your secrets
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>>161916487
yes we will

dumb sheepfuckers afraid of moths always show face
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>>161918257
Alt+P to open the scanner, make sure you arnt filtering anomalies, its signatures that need to be scanned with probes. Ore sites are what you are looking for.
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>>161922220
kill yourself
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>>161923005
)':
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>>161922397
literally every high-sec activity can make that money with 24hs of activity
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>goons
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lol
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Pubies don't understand our tactical brilliance.
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>>161924701
i shave my pubies
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>finally research and save up enough to buy my first cruiser
>spend millions of isk to fit it out
>undock for the first time to go do some 0.6 sec ratting to get a feel for the ship
>warp into first asteroid belt and lock on to rat
>game locks up, eve.exe is not responding
>crashes every time i try to load in
>its been 10 minutes and it still wont load, even after a restart

great game.
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How do I harvest gas sites? I can't find any targetable clouds in any of them.
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>>161924913
If you're using the default overview: Mining tab.
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>>161925001

Oh right. Wow I'm an idiot. Thanks m8.
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I am confused about the Ancillary shield boosters.... is there a benefit to using a smaller cap booster or should I got for the biggest charge the thing can fit?
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>>161925242
yes
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What /eog/ thinks of Code? can you survive in high-sec without giving into their bullshit permit?
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>>161925410
yesh, don't be shit, that easy.
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>>161925410
I haven't seen CODE in a month so yeah
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>>161925567
>high/low sec niggers
>not shit
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>>161925653
thats the only reason they are so feared, because shitters can't grasp how easy to avoid people in highsec is
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First for best alliance in the game.

https://youtu.be/LNUu75fH8Uc?t=474
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>>161925653
>Nullbabbies actually believe this
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>>161925653
Small gang low sec pvpers that aren't blobbers are the some of the most skilled pilots in the game, behind that are wormhole hoppers.
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>>161925807
Aren't they ded af?
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>>161918864
It's why I'll never get Logistics Cruisers V, and am extremely reluctant to get any Battleship V.
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>>161926060
the only relevant wormhole people are the ones who pvp in nullsec
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>>161926090
Good for you, I have logi 5 and I sat in my basilisk .... once? Sucks to be antisocial I guess.
Can anyone tell me if Hail is good on a Huginn? I read the ammo cant hit shit, but I thought maybe if I double web them? Any input? I want to take it into low sec to kill some hopeful gatecampers and likely die horribly in the process.
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>>161925410
Having a permit has absolutely no affect.
If they can kill you, they will kill you.
It laughably easy to not let them kill you.
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>>161926060
>wormhole hopping
>skilled

Dude, I fucking suck at the game. I just like to deliver torpedoes to people I think I can win against.
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>>161925410
memers who think they matter
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>>161926382
>>161926382
>wingspan
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>>161925410
CODE is pathetically easy to avoid.
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>>161924909
verify the game cache in the launcher
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>>161925807
>best alliance
>doesn't actually log on to TQ because their cheese strats stopped working
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>>161926978
Well it makes sense since that's probably the best defense against blobs. I personally think blobs are boring as fuck.
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>>161924909
file a support ticket
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRyieLU_vRE&feature=youtu.be
>How many times is he gonna get baited before he gives up?
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>when you d/c in a 10/10 and lose your t3c

Thanks CCP
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>>161924329
story?
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>>161927661
PL dreadbombed Goons using a bait dread of their own. Goons lost something like 700bn including 3 titans, a rev, and 3 supers in their staging system to 50 insured capitals.
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>>161922594
You can keep trying but you'll never find me. Or you will, when your getting evicted from your wormhole.
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>>161927923
why are we so stupid
where were the faxes

goddamn
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when is it time to remove goons again
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>>161928373
When that keepstar goes up
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>>161928043
>evicted from your wormhole.
cute

You show up every time on your own. Its pathetic. How do you live being such a pariah
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>goons
>2016
lol
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Where the FUCK do implants come from in this game? Can you make them with industry?
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>>161929492
LP store?
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>>161929492
NPC drops. Very rarely, mission rewards.
Faction implants are bought with LP.
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>>161929492
You can find blueprints for tech 2 implants in covert research facilities. I've only ever encountered one in the entire year that I've lived in a wormhole. I don't know how people find them much more often than I do.
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>>161929992
>for tech 2 implants
Upgrading existing implants, not making more.
>can find blueprints
Only BPCs.
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>>161929992
You mean a research facility or a blueprint?
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>>161929720
>Faction implants are bought with LP
You can buy Implants (+1 to +5) through pretty much all of the main faction corps. I know I can get implants through Minmatar Mining Corp myself, and have found T2 implant BPC's in data sites.
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Is there any shame in buying plex to fund skill injectors?
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>>161929321
Because I'm not an outcast? I have a ton of friends, you guys just don't understand that no.gf is an echo chamber of autism. And at the end of the day I put down the video game which is fun for a little bit and go hang out with mates, I just enjoy finding an easily tiggered group and fucking around with them. (You were my entertainment not the other way round).

And I'm literally not even banned or have biomassed, I gave away that 30b to some inri guys who are still playing. Uninstalled the game yesterday and I don't plan on reinstalling.
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>>161930770
Yes, everyone on 4chan will laugh at you. Of course not, who cares? If you got money you can spend, feel free to do so.
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>>161930825

Absolutely captivating story mate but who cares and why do you feel the need to post it?
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>>161930770
No, but ask yourself how many you plan on getting. Are you in a rush?
You can actually net money on injectors after the cost of PLEX and injectors.
If you've got a spare alt. it might be worthwhile to farm your own injectors.
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>>161930825
The only easily trigged one here is you, seeing as you are still here.

Also
>white stag
guess again cukboi
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>after the cost of PLEX and *extractors.
>>
>still haven't received my buddy Plex after 6 days
>no response from CCP

Ah yes
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>>161931027
Why arrogant to think I care about who you are.
>>161930910
Thanks man I'm glad you like it.
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>>161931124
how did he sub
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>>161931272

Used my link to create new alpha account and then bought 6 months sub
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>>161931265
I don't think, I know. Your corpse is among many I have.

Careful to not have another anxiety attack.
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>>161931385
edgy
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>>161931429
No im serious you almost died last time.

Do be careful.
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>>161931385
Good for you I have probably died a couple of hundred times in this game so a ton of people probably have it, you're not special.

And thanks for the support, Gota manage that anxiety ya know?
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>decide to farm drone ais
>fly 100 jumps and tank faction standings rejecting a gazillion missions
>not a single mission that drops drone ais
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>>161931583
Guess why they're valuable.
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>>161931583
>do lvl4s back in the days
>skip that drone AI mission every time I get it
Guess I shouldn't have, huh?
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>cuckie custard back at it again
>>
>i-i have friends
>keeps crawling back
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I can't believe jonny meme is banned
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>>161932218
link
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t. jonny meme
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>>161932165
As I said, no.gf is an echo chamber of autism, god damn when I joined your discord you have a channel dedicated to gay furry porn. You guys can't understand people put down the game and it means nothing.

Considering your guys lives amounted to playing Eve online and video games all day while on the benefit i pity you guys.
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>STILL crawling back

its like fucking groundhog day

im still not in whitestag
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>>161932446
damn son, how much attention do you want in a single day? you're worse than a woman
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>>161932678
well yeah I do have to crawl to get onto your level of life. God damn I hope trump makes you get a job. Autism is a made up white people mental illness thats just a term for being a weird cunt, It shouldn't be an excuse to get benefits and play video games/fap to hentai.
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Aint that a little ironic considering you still live with your mum.
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>>161933018
LOL
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i'm too lazy to read all that shit you wrote above, what it's all about?
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>>161933018
Except im only 20, work full time at an internship for my degree while on summer break. Actually doing shit with my life.

shit is cash m8
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>>161933145
Cuckie gets cucked
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>>161933145
One kiwi sperglord is O B S E S S E D with an autistic /r9k/-based eve online space guild
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Do low-sec exploration signatures REQUIRE a higher level of skills, or is it random whether they're more or less difficult to scan?
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>>161930770
if you want the most value of turning $ into SP, extracting SP from an alt account costs half as much as using raw PLEX
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Filename related.

What do?
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>>161933776
bump miners
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>>161933776
Load up some plex and take a stroll through udema
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>>161933672
cosmic signature difficulty is based on the signature itself

where you find them is based on the system security

i.e. a pirate crystal quarry (most difficult relic site) will always only require 68.6 scan strength to scan down

pirate crystal quarries only appear in 0.0 security and below (null and C1-3 wormholes)
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>>161933854
My decent mach pilot is in my citadel in a 0.1 system about 14j out.. eh.
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>>161934005
bump them with the rhea
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>want to build a citadel
>but also want to move out to Null
>but also want to live in WHs
>but also want to run Incursions and do NPSI fleets
>but also....

Fuck me my indecision makes this game hell.
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>>161934160
>want to build a citadel
>but also want to live in WHs
a large majority of low-sec static wormholes are abandoned, you could put a citadel in one and live there

>but also want to run Incursions
use a hi-sec alt to run incursions

>but also want to move out to Null and do NPSI fleets
>not already living in null
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>>161934160
why the fuck do you even need a citadel for? just get in a cloaky ship, get probes, get combat probes, get mobile depot and go into wormholes. or join some alliance and move to null sec.
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>>161934291
>a large majority of LS static WHs are abandoned

Well golly gee, guess I know what I'm doing.
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What can I do with a Thrasher as a spess nigger? I feel quite lost when it comes to fittings and capabilities.
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>>161934134
Find me a target within a few jumps of amarr and I shall bump them.

>>161934160
>Not already having your own citadel in 0.1 space
>not already have been an incursion FC for a year, making ridiculous amounts of isk but also dying on the inside.
>Not already having lived in a wormhole realized how boring and lonely it is even with a 50+ active members at any time WHole.
>Not knowing nullbaby blobbing is boring AF.
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>>161934402
Sit on the jita undock, shoot shuttles.
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>>161934402
This >>161934518

Get that cockbag thrasher out buddo.
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>le meme setup names
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>>161933776
So I flew out to where my mining sluts are.. Shall I do some mining? Also bonus! I found my charon! Rhea is still in Amarr.

Thing is, I jumped into my hulk and its lost a high slot? Which one should I use now for max yield?
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>>161934974
Hulk
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>>161935138
>To bring Adaptive Invulnerability Field II online requires 44.00 cpu units, but only 43.98 of the 450.00 units that your computer produces are still available.

But muh fitting skills are all maxed out...
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>>161934974
>Station Jerma VI - Moon 12 - Theology Council Tribunal
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>>161935372
Come gank me. [.CODE]

tfw I forgot to blank out the agents.
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>sec status 6.0
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>not procurer
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>Wife wants to buy me EVE time as gift
>There are no EVE time cards that can be bought from anywhere
>Have to buy from some site and link account

All of that is way over my wifes head.

Thanks for a shitty Christmas CCP.
>>
>Start of mining years ago
>Everyone said not to do it
>Years later at present time
>All skills in mining
>Do nothing but mine
>Have mining empire
>Rule Mining corp with veldspar fist

What is PVP?
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>>161936836
>wife wants you to play more of this space ship video game
Really makes you think.
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>he joined pandemic horde

How's it feel to be a literal cuck?
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>>161936836
amazon
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>>161937108
Feels better than losing titans in your own staging system.
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>>161937136
You have to link it to the account, it isn't just a code I don't think.

>>161937096
I'm 32, I work full time nights, she is a stay at home mother of our only child. I can play a fuckin' spaceship game if I want you fucking shitstain.
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>>161937276
You can play all you want. Just don't be surprised if you get a black baby, lmao
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>Takes forever to level up skills
>Had a richbro donate tons of isk
>Literally just waiting around not even in game for skills to level so I can play how I want

What a great game I will tell all my friends to buy a years sub, load up a queue, then don't log in for 8 months.

>Pay monthly sub
>Can only train 1 pilot at a time

Holy fucking shit are you fucking kidding me.
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>>161926804
>>161927364
I actually came back and tried to log in 30+ minutes later and it worked. I have no idea what changed but I was actually able to play again. I found my ship still sitting in the same asteroid belt at full health with pirates locked on and circling me. I guess they have a built in safe guard if you DC where rats can't hurt you. I consider myself lucky as fuck but WOW I can't believe I didnt die.
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Horde and Waffles are not corps you join if you have a lot of respect for yourself. They're basically second class PL citizens. You join them to get some sort of content and to let a little bit of the "prestige" of PL rub off on you and to have the confidence that if anything goes REALLY tits up PL MIGHT come to help you.

They WILL bully you for mining in your Venture instead of losing ships for their cause, you WILL get farmed by half of EVE and no one will help you when you're tackled in a belt. They'll just make fun of you on comms for being a miner.

Think twice before you apply to Horde, Waffles or Pancakes. There are many corps in EVE that value their members and don't just treat you as disposable and taxable cannon fodder.

>B-but senpai! What if I want to get into PL one day? Isn't joining their feeder corps a good way to get a foot in the door?
No, join their enemies and make a name for yourself. PL likes poach the best among their defeated foes.
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>>161938392
>join Horde for mining
I mean, yeah, they will be right. And I'm not even from PL.
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>>161938383
maybe your cruiser's tank was really really good?

sit there for a while and see if they can wear down your shield
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>>161938392
I've literally never heard anyone shitting on anyone else for being a miner in Horde.
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>>161938392
tl;dr
if you want to mine in null, join karma
if you want to join PL, be a decent capital pilot in any non-feeder corp
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>>161939045
kill yourself faggot
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If there's sleeper sites, is there still a chance of pirate sites in the same wormhole? I feel like I'm wasting my time with all these sites filled with rats.
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>>161938392
>There are many corps in EVE that value their members
Here's bonus (You) for you. There are only two types of corps in EVE: the ones that value their members and the ones that are bigger than 10 people.
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>>161939045
Why would you pick a fight with someone as autistic as Stunt. He doesn't fucking sleep.
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Lowsec fucker here. Just finished probing the entire system, and only three moons stood out to me; One Tech moon (someone's already harvesting), one Chromium moon, and one that has both Scandium and Vanadium (Reaction). Would it be worth trying to gather a corp together to try to overtake the system, turning it into an industrial system, or should I just give up the ghost and be a plebian for a 0.0 power block?
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>get accepted by w-space corp living in a c3
>they're all EU TZ
>replace random faction modules in their Rattlesnakes with T1 when they go to sleep
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>>161940845
What if you could have an alt corp running reactions and be a plebian for a 0.0 power block?
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>>161939314
yes pirate sites can spawn in the same wormhole as sleeper sites

pirate relic/data sites only spawn in C1-3's

you can identify sleeper and pirate relic/data's by the name

pirate will have "gurista/sansha/serpentis" whatever in the name
sleeper will have "Unsecured / Forgotten" in the name

you can identify C1-3's by the wormhole description
"unknown space" = 1-3
"deadly/dangerous unknown space" = 4-6
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>>161941091
theyll know its you
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>>161940303
>>161940415
>>161941512
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>>161941364
Because of those dank lowsec boosts on industrial complexes. System next door has an industrial complex and is charging 12% tax on "Highest refine in highsec" and has industry and refining in two separate citadels.

Not to mention that the area is quite...favorable for a lowsec industry system. Highsec ice nearby, a few jumps from L4 missions, a little further for a market hub, and one pocket of space nearby is just full of scannable signatures at pretty much all times.

It's one of those places where you could get a fairly sizable industrial corp in and just do work on the market. It's also within JF range of Jita.
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is stunt a neet?
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>>161941512
The third time is the charm, right. Thanks for the info.
>>
Sisters ship scanner when
Sisters cargo scanner when
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>>161937039
Is it profitable? I want to do the same.
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>>161942805
Industry on big scale is dank money, but autism is required.
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>>161942805
>>161942904
Last month when the October economic report came out, he claimed he was responsible for 75-100% of the ore that comes out of Outer Ring. 30 alts, all mining in nullsec.
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>>161937520
>Play EVE for the first time
>Let trial end then sub
>Go to FW after 1st highsec corp I joined died of inactivity
>Die in buttloads of condors while having fun and learning the game
>Still playing EVE to this day PVP'ing
Scrub detected
>>
>Outer ring
I literally forgot that it exists and people live there.
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>>161937039
Do you mine in highsec?

Can I join? I'm an autistic miner too but I'd always compete with people for territory in highsec. I'd never agree to refine in their citadels and shit because they always wanted too large of a cut in profit. I'd set up a small pos and just move it around after mining out a system.

None of my miners are active right now but I have 9 miners and a fully trained orca pilot.
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>>161943332
Not him, but would you mind joining a non-4chan corp? I could hook you up with a high sec industry alliance that might be interesting for you. Drop your IGN if you want more info.
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>compete with people for territory in highsec
>hisec
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>>161943529
>high sec industry alliance
what's that like? are you constantly wardecced and getting farmed Marmite etc? or do people just stay docked and run industry jobs while their out of corp alts haul stuff?
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>>161943651
Well with 9 miners you can clear out an entire system of ore in a single day. Sitting in one spot doesn't work, you have to move around and essentially crop rotate between systems.

There's fags that set up public citadels hoping to get free passive ISK from miners refining in their stations. They would leave me alone for a week or so until they never noticed revinue coming in. They'd always contact me trying to get me to refine in there citadels. I'd explain to them that I just compress the ore and haul it myself. They'd then try and buy my ore and offer to haul it, offering deals like 10% below jita ore price (non compressed). Compressing ore is like a 10% increase in profit alone so the difference would be around 20%, obviously a shit deal considering a single impel can haul 1.6 bil of ore easily by itself in a single trip with virtually no risk. I'd politely refuse their offer and they'd hire campers. I'd then leave my corp and continue my operations storing ore in stations instead of compressing in a PoS while mining. Sometimes they would continue agression and I'd switch to procurers, a massive pain in the ass in highsec before because one laser is a bitch to manage when asteroids have 2 cycles worth of ore on average (6000 m3). Yes you have to compete for territory in highsec and its a massive bitch. In nullsec it can be far worse though. If someone wants to stop you from mining there is basically nothing you can do against organized cloaky camping on an alliance level.
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>All these fucking alphas taking all the fucking ore

FUCK OFF
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>>161944756
no)))
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>>161944756
>letting wardeccers stop you from mining in highsec.

Its kind of hilarious now that I look back. Mining like that was like being a locust swarm. Just showing up and clearing out asteroid fields and then moving on to the next location.

What I really wanted was to have 3 small posses and jump clone between them on a daily basis, having 3 orcas, and 3 sets of mining equipment. But I don't know how to hold onto one system let alone 3. I did much better being a nomad.
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>>161944756
mine the alphas instead of the rocks
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>high-sec
>>
>Can only play late at night
>Never even knew there were ores in high sec other than regular Veldspar

Don't mind me, just taking whats left on the buffet after it's cold and everything good has been taken.

Thanks for making the belts repopulate only on server reset, CCP.
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>>161946127
>cant play at 4 am
>claims he plays late at night

lol

fuck you normie
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>>161946252
I play like 8pm to 2am, and CCP has basically told me to go fuck myself because of it.
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>>161946347
yeah

im sorry about what i said

i didnt mean it
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>>161946347
You want some isk?
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>>161946572
I want the same gameplay as everyone else, and because I don't play after server reset or in the mornings, I get fucked because of it.
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>>161946612
That sucks. Luckily I'm online during DT. Sorry about your luck bro.
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>>161946771
i want some isk though

add the mittani
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>>161944756

>being a miner

l m a o
>>
how do i have fun living in wh space

i cant solo sites and these niggers are being autistic stupid shit
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How safe am I in 0.5 with a Procurer and 5 EC Hornet drones?
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>>161946347
I play 10PM to 4AM, and I can't play weekends.

Feel for me, bro.
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>>161947163
If your Procurer has a decent amount of EHP it'll take like 8 Catalysts to kill you with no ECM drones, so unless you really piss someone off you'll likely be fine.
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>>161947320
I think that is what I'm gonna do. Sick to death of Veldspar and Scordite and Alpha's sucking belts dry.
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>>161946612
>belt mining
go to anoms fukwit
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>>161947045
train for a stealth bomber
boop miners
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Another day exploring, another day of sub 5m/h profits
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>>161933672
Had this discussion with another anon recently.
T1 Exploration Frigate and 2 Gravity Rigs with default Training is always able to find any site.
Usually slow as balls though. Especially without custom probe formations.
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>>161948192
Those are always mined out and just normal Veldspar as well.
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>>161947914
Keep in mind that plagioclase, the most valuable high sec ore, spawns in 0.9s in Gallente and Minmatar space and 0.7s in Caldari and Amarr, so if you find a low-population 0.7 to mine it in you can have max profits while also being safer from gankers than in a 0.5.
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>>161948390
h o w
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>>161946347
are you alone? Mine outside the range of tradehubs. Go to dotlan and check the 24/hour jumps in amarr space, then filter the belts, avoid the highest number of belts and go for a system with a decent number. 10-11 belts was good enough for 9 miners. Generally those systems are untouched.
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>>161944661
>I'd explain to them that I just compress the ore and haul it myself.
Rookie mistake. Don't respond.
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>>161948835
>>161946347
Can I make a pair of suggestions?

Nakugard and Aldrat pockets.
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>>161948827
>rats
>rats
>empty sectors
>WHs with over 10 signatures and all of them were fuckall or had even more rats
>apparent gank setup, forced to flee
I have yet to find a site that doesnt have rats. I know I'm doing something wrong but I dont know what it is.
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>People discussing ways to best make peanuts mining all day
>Just made 70m from flipping a single item in Jita
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>>161949180
that's what a hulk with bad skills does per hour
now multiply it by 20, your isk is shit my friend
>>
>Hulk making 70m/h
Sure thing, anon.
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>>161949491
it can easily do 90 with good skills, crystals and rorq boosts
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>>161948430
custom probe formations are a meme

pinpoint + drag them closer together at 0.25au works every time
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>>161949649
And I once got 500m in loot from a high sec data site.
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>>161949180
Correction, we're discussing the best way to be a space miner living out the space miner fantasy. Best money is trading, but traders spend their money on making more money, if you take money away from that then your hurting your potential profits. Most successful traders die inside when they take money out to plex their account or do PvP, its wasted money that could be more profits. In that sense the money made from trading is as irrelevant as the money made from mining because you aren't using it to "have fun".

Ratting, exploring, and incursions are the best ways IMO to make money if you play EVE for conventional in space PvP because they don't require infrastructure and and the money is roughly direct effort to income.

PvPing in EVE actually doesn't take that much money. Most people can't even find fights worth risking ISK in let alone losing a bunch of expensive ships back to back.

>>161949491
Null ores a worth a lot. Idk about new hulks but old hulks were like 170,000 m3 an hour I think. Spud is 651 isk per m3.right now so thats over 100m and hour if you do NON STOP MINING.

Realistically the profits are lower, but 70m is very easily obtainable. You may ask why everyone doesnt do it if it makes so much money.

>keeping # hulks in nullsec fully operational
>keeping rats off of your hulks while mining
>logging in and running that many hulks
>keeping hotdrops off your mining
>selling all of that ore
>keeping that many accounts plexed, subbed, and managed within an alliance (API keys, Corp taxes if you have them, training queues, PI, skill injectors/extractors etc).

There are so many things that go into that kind of work that its way more complicated than it appears and most people aren't looking for the significant investment of time, money, and effort thats required.

The potential profits if fully operational is fucking retarded though.

On clear days in null with 10 accounts i'd log in, mine, and log off several bil richer.
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>>161949178
rats? what the fuck

are you in null or wormholes? if you are in wormholes, please see >>161941512. if you are in null, you might be warping to combat anomalies rather than cosmic signatures

please don't explore in wormholes, wormholes are only good for getting back to hi-sec from null to dump your cargo and get back to null again. don't waste your time in them.
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>>161950227
Formation on the right takes as many as or fewer passes than pinpoint.
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>>161950358
The math is there dude. A successful nullsec multiboxing mining setup is massive profits. Its just incredibly hard to do because of the infrastructure and the fact that your massive CONTENT for nullsec "PvPers"
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>>161950358
thats great anon
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is the only point of this game to get imaginary money?
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>made a gallente alt because friend told me they're good with alpha with the drones
>no dual skill training in one account
What's to stop me from making another account? Is it looked down upon?
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>>161950558
Its a sandbox
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>>161950558
no, its to kill the other shit people bought with imaginary money and laugh at their misery
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>>161950627
Make as many as you want. I have five myself, three of them plexed.
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>>161950627
Alt accounts are encouraged, you just can't multibox alphas [easily or without risking a ban]
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>>161950506
I can nail any signature with just 3 passes on pinpoint
4au start
1au
0.25 au

Can't see how custom will help
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>>161950627
>What's to stop me from making another account?
Nothing, it's encouraged by CCP. Multiboxing is even allowed (for non-Alpha) in the TOS.
>Is it looked down upon?
Not at all, plenty of people do it.
You can even transfer characters between accounts.
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>>161950389
>are you in null or wormholes?
I've been in both C3 WHs and in null sec hunting for sites.

>you might be warping to combat anomalies rather than cosmic signatures
Sadly thats not the case. I've been using google, which mostly links to the eve university site, to check the sites before jumping in. Unless said website is horribly outdated, the sites I've found were defended.

>please don't explore in wormholes
I thought those were good to explore. I guess I'll drop them.
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>>161950558
Imo its to find a place in a virtual world for yourself. Complaining about anyone's preference in playing is retarded as long as that's what they want to do.

The people in Red Frog have a blast being space truckers.

Tycoons have a blast imagining themselves as shadowbrokers making deals and tons of ISK while the plebians toil in the fields and on the battlefield.

Nullblobbers have a blast being a part of something bigger than themselves and being in the spotlight of EVE History/politics.

WHers have a blast in a small group mastering the game and finding/enjoying the challenge of a section of the game that most players view as a dangerous unknown.

Miners have fun being space miners.

The only thing I have a problem with is when people are doing something they don't enjoy because its "the best way to get X".

>Gatecamping for a green killboard
>Activity for isk
>Flying ships they hate to win in PvP
>logging in to fly with people they hate
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Why are hulks mentioned for NULLSEC mining? Wouldn't a Skiff be best?
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>>161951003
Surprisingly enlightening response. Thanks anon
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>>161951016
The only time I've ever seen a successful Hulk mining setup was with Titan shield boosts.

Everything I've done Skiffs are a luxury and Procurers were the primary workhorse.

The loss in ISK/hour was worth the reduced risk for me. At a peak I had 13 miners. I'd assign 45 hob II's to my main and use him to target paint rats while mining. I'd deposit ore into a deployed enormous freight container and make hauling trips with a Miasmos pilot.
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>>161950376
No one is buying Spud for 651 isk/m3. Look at the Jita price history. The current sell orders may be set at 10k each but no one is buying at that price. The actual isk/h of your calculation would be about half of what you're claiming.
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>tfw steal a bunch of expensive mining stuff from a blown up guy in an asteroid belt
>now hiding in a nearby station until the suspect timer runs out

I thought for sure it was a trap
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>>161925242
smaller cap

for capacitor boosters it inject the amount of cap it says on the item name every cycle

for shield boosters any will do, so you may aswell use the smallest available
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>>161951318
Way back in the day I had a fleet with Orca support. This was almost 5 years ago. Not sure how it works now. I started out just jet canning with a hauler and that worked well. But in nullsec it's basically not what you do but who you know.
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>>161934974
>blanks system name
>doesn't blank agents
ebinn :DDDD
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>>161952097
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>>161952410
Domain -> Nashar -> Jerma VI - Moon 12 - Theology Council Tribunal
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>>161952819
gz

useless info
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>>161899632
>be newbro
>start shooting space rocks like tutorial says
>make enough to get decent alphabro ship
>start looking for missions
>agent says he's available and needs me for an important mission only i can do
>lolok.30kpeopleonline
>might be dangerous but it needs to get done quickly so he offers a bonus
>accept mission and receive my cargo
>Group of homeless people
>they smell like shit but whatever i need the money
>agent says go to another station and pick up the rest of the cargo
>great probably more refugees
>group of homeless are mostly asleep
>flying through highsec this mission is so dangerous
>dock in station to pick up the rest of the cargo
>crate of cigarettes
>mfw
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>>161951414
Fair enough I just did a quick search, my ore was off too. 232,000m3 is the max. Ore prices have also gone down from when I was last in null. Maybe its a result of the adaptation to supplementing mining accounts with SP extractors.

Right now assuming you sell off ore at jita buy prices Spod is worth 50-55 mil an hour per a hulk. Arkonor/Bistot are higher but not by much, 70ish mil/hour.

But in nullsec you would also be refining the ore.

My prices were somewhere in between the buy and sell for Jita when I was with my alliance. We used our own calculator that automatically adjusted prices based on what we needed as an alliance. Whenever someone would complete an order it would update our alliances stock of minerals and that would adjust future prices.

I didn't mine with a hulk though. I got around 32 mil/hour per a procurer in nullsec with rorqual boosts counting in my hauler as well.

14*32 = 448 mil/hour.

The cost of plexing the accounts was significantly reduced with the introduction of skill extractors. On paper 448 mil/hour doesn't sound very good for 14 accounts.

But that was the actual raw profit, not theorycrafting or best case scenario. Every hour I was mining I was making that much at a mininmum mining normal spot (we only had bright spod anoms).

It was enough money coming in playing daily that I wouldn't worry about losing 20 bil spontaneously because I'd just be like "Thats like a week or two mining, whatever".

The problem is that if your alliance is getting fucked you literally just cant make a profit and everything shuts down.
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>>161953261
Now, the real question is if we got a large amount of the alpha miners away from the market hubs and stripping belts for lowsec shenanigans, with Technetium keeping things afloat, how well would that concept work?
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So safest best way to mine is in 0.9 Minmatar space (where I am already) or lower but I need to find an out of the way place to mine?

And a Procurer of course.

For the most chill profit? I'm not looking to max out my isk potential, but I don't wanna be wasting my time. Just the right amount of low stress and isk making.
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w - s p a c e
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>>161953703
If you're mining in highsec you should use a retriever or a covetor.

Try them all out yourself. All I can say is that unless things have changed significantly nobody is going to waste time fucking with a mining barge in highsec. People will gank Exhumers in highsec though.
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>>161950979
learn to identify what a sleeper/guarded relic/data site name is:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole_Exploration_Sites
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>>161953937
I saw a Retriever get ganked in highsec just a few days ago. Two CODE catas came in and blapped him in no time. If he was in a Proc they would have needed about 4 times that many.
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>>161951003
>Gatecamping for a green killboard
>Activity for isk
>Flying ships they hate to win in PvP
>logging in to fly with people they hate

but for these people too, it's what they want

some people take pride in green KBs
some people really like earning money for the sake of earning money (but are too dumb to realize there are better ways of doing it)
some people want to win no matter what
some people think the benefits outweigh the costs of their goal (cost being flying with shitty people)
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>>161953937
I have a Retriever and a Procurer.

The Retriever is great but I'm too scared to take it in anything less than 0.9.

Why would they thank a tech 2 barge but not a tech 1?
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>>161954750
Theoretically, 10x the isk on the kill mail, but he's wrong, people gank t1 barges all the time.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/57919100/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/57917951/
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>>161954156
Your willing to sacrifice a significant reduction in performance and convenience based on the experience that you saw someone get ganked in a retriever once?

The risk of using a covetor or a retriever in highsec is by and far worth it imo. Using a procurer in highsec is like only exploring in highsec because you're scared of wormholes/low/null. Yeah its technically more dangerous but you're just being a retard imo. Like I said try them out for yourself though.

If you use a covetor you need a containers and a miasmos with you.

>>161954202
That's true. I more mean I hate when people play EVE and they don't make their own choices. I see so many people latch on to someone else without having any goals or dreams of their own in the game. Its just retarded in my opinion, especially when those same people turn around and shit on miners because they read somewhere that mining is boring and people that do it aren't "having fun".

>one person is in space playing EVE having fun with corpmates and engaging in the sandbox with other players (making shit, hauling shit, organizing shit with his leader/alliance, dealing with roamers trying to catch miners)
>The other person doesn't log in, and sits in teamspeak/slack complaining about the game/nothing to do, and playing league of legends or Dota 2.

Yeah the miners are totally the ones "playing EVE wrong".
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>>161954910
First of all, the only thing a Retriever has over a Procurer is an ore hold of about twice the size, so the only "significant reduction in performance and convenience" you're suffering is having to take the one minute trip back to the station to drop off your ore twice as often, which makes very little difference. Second, "once"? Please, people gank Retrievers so much more often than Procurers in High sec:

https://zkillboard.com/ship/17478/

https://zkillboard.com/ship/17480/

So, no, you're the retard.
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>>161954750
You're generally safe in anything in 0.5 and above as long as you pay attention and even if you get ganked that's what, a 30mil loss?
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>>161954853
I'm just speaking from my experience. I also mined in the middle of buttfuck nowhere and tried to avoid people. I used covetors in a giant blob. But thats when procurers didn't have 2 lasers.

Back then covetors were around a 30-40% increase in yield/hour compared to a procurer with orca boosts and they also could target 3 roids and had a range increase.

For me.

Procurers meant retargeting roids constantly with a fit cost of around 29 mil.

Covetors had a fit cost of around 47 mil (3 lasers increased the cost significantly compared to 1 + the hull is around 30 mil compared to around 21-23 mil). But Covetors allowed me to set a single warp in point in every belt and still be able to target almost every single roid.

They allowed me to target everything while anchoring my entire fleet within dumping range of a single freight container.

They also split the yield/hour between 3 asteroids each which meant I had to retarget around 1/3 of the time as with a procurer and never had to cut cycles short.

I make my risks based on the math benefits of the risks. The reason I never used a Hulk even though I never had problems with my covetors was because the hulk took a significant amount of mining in order to pay for the increased investment.

I'd look at the diifference in yield between the two ships every hour of mining and figure out how many hours of mining it would take to make up the difference in cost.

A procurer and covetor would be like 3-5 hours I'd bet. A covetor to hulk is hundreds of hours.

How likely am I to get ganked?
>low
Can I pay off the increased investment before I get ganked?
>In a very short time
How long can I profit from the increased investment if I get away with taking the risk?
>Betting a very long time as it would require a catalyst ganker going significantly out of his way

Your circumstances are most certainly different.
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>>161955207
Before the rebalance they had increased yield over a procurer and the procurer having a single laser was a detriment in highsec.
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Gonna be hard finding a comfy high sec spot.
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>>161955965
I'd suggest Amarr space, Zehru was my home when I first started out and it was usually completely void of other players 2 jumps in any direction.
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>>161955207
You likely will never lose a procurer in highsec. That doesn't mean its the better ship to use.

If you mine for a month you could get ganked several times in a covetor and never lose a procurer and still end up with more money made from mining with a covetor.

Also they nerfed the retrievers tank with the rebalance. I haven't seen enough danger to warrant using a procurer in highsec.
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>>161940845
Lowsec fucker here. Seems the russians with the Tech moon aren't taking kindly to other people trying to set up shop. Two carriers and a handful of people were shooting at one of the newer towers that just went up, and apparently 4 more have gone up today. From what I can tell, it might be a covops/hotdrop corp that has this tech moon.

I'm beginning to reconsider pushing this corp over for the tech moon. Might be able to sneak the Chromium moon, or just set up on the Fernite moon.
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>>161948835
Why Amarr space?
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>>161956176
>>161956089
Ignore me
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>>161904669
If any newbies are still interested feel free to use that link when making an account, message my ingame when you sub and I'll send you the Plex.
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>pls suck my dik, i need plex :((
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>December 5th
>12 Covetors die in the entirety of highsec
>December 4th
>19 Covetors die in the entirety of highsec
>December 3rd
>23 covetors die in the entirety of highsec
>25% increase in profits
>Not worth the risk

People need to stop fear from getting in the way of making the objectively better choice.
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What faction is best in faction warfare
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>>161949180
>he flips

I just made 120 million region trading a single item bub
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>>161958239
>he undocks
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not played in 5 years lads with all my shit in sov nullsec, am i fucked?
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>>161958510
Depends on if its worth it to black frog it out
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>>161958510
as an alpha clone, yes
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>>161958446
>he does his own shipping
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>>161954202
>but for these people too, it's what they want
I quit for being two of those people for too long.

I'm back, and I've learned my lesson,
and I agree that some people enjoy them,
but not everyone doing those has thought it through.
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>he
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I have never seen anything about this game except for trailers. I'm trying out this Alpha Clone thing, what do I do?
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>>161959552
After completing the tutorial go to the career agents. They will introduce you to multiple different aspects of the game with a series of missions.
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>>161959552
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui7ZTlfNngc

>>161959552
If you ever need to know how to do something, check YouTube.
Be active in the Chat Box, especially in Local. Also join a guild.
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>>161959552
>I'm trying out this Alpha Clone thing,
If you are Amarr, make a new character.
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>>161959552
Find a good fit first.
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>>161960735
or try out trading, it's pretty easy and you can make a lot of profit.
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red pill me on pupper station
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>>161961202
>pupper
Memes
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>>161950558
that is one point.
another is being top on zkillboard.
another is conquering sov sec.
if you really like the ingame lore for some reason you can max out faction and corp reputation stuff.
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When I buy a bookmark from someone, where does it appear? I don't see it in my personal locations list.
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>>161961631
isn't it an in game item ? pretty sure you can jettison locations into space and they turn into an ingame item.
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>>161961728

Ohhhh got it thanks bro
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What is the difference between each empire/race/blahblah? I read it is just for roleplaying but from lurking this general for a while I take the choice is important, although I still don't get why.
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>>161962310
racial ship choices is the biggest point.

>>161961631
I'm sorry, "buying a bookmark." What? Can you make profit off of that shit???
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>>161962310
>What is the difference between each empire/race/blahblah?
Ages ago, it used to effect your initial attributes.
So everyone and their uncle picked this one Amarr ethnicity with the bets attributes.
All it really does these days (for Subscribed accounts) is determine your free skills on new characters.

But with last months change to trial accounts, it's become a thing that matters again.
The different races have different available skills.
The racial lists are pretty much the same, but your ship pool is very limited.
As basically, free-to-play characters are constrained to ships based on race.
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>>161962310
Choice is only important if you plan on staying as an alpha

Amarr = lasers/armor tank
Caldari = missiles + railguns/shield tank
Gallente = blasters + drones/armor tank
Minmatar = projectiles + missiles/mixed tank

There are exceptions though
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>>161962310
Alpha clones are limited to their races frigates/destroyers/cruiser

Omega clones it doesnt matter, unless you drop back to alpha clone
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>>161962530
>>161962569

Until you get to the 'special' tier like the gnocchi
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>>161962586 #
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>mfw there are people who unironically pronouce the g is gnosis
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>>161962831
>mfw there are people who ironically pronouce the g is gnosis
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I suppose this is a common question, but do you guys have recs on starter corps? The ads from the ingame corp finder make most of them look like the kind of shit that halfasses everything.
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>>161962458
>Can you make profit off of that shit???
Escalations that you might not have time or the proper ship to do, you can just take the bookmark of and sell it to someone for them to complete.
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>>161962928
All the "starter" corps are garbage. Thy just want to leach taxes off newbies.
Join an actual corp. Any actual corp. You can always leave and find a new one.
Just make sure you pick a corporation that has clear goals.
Corps that do "a little of everything" never do anything.
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So trying to solo frig pvp as alpha clone is pretty much pointless right?

>get warped on by a frig with a t2 fit
>die without being able to do anything
>only people you can kill are people who started yesterday and don't know what they're doing
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>>161963110
>Thy just want to leach taxes off newbies
This is why I'm so wary of them, actually. The corps that have catched my eye due to the clear goals plus the refunding system seem to be recruiting experienced people, leaving me out of them.
I guess I'll try to make another sweep and see what I can find later.
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>>161963582
link us your fit
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>>161963582
Most people are shit regardless of the fit, dont be shit and you'll win 90% of the time
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>>161963628
>seem to be recruiting experienced people, leaving me out of them.
Put in an application anyways. A few will say "no", but not all.
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>Sitting in Jita waiting for reset and jerking off
>bingo bot with ship contracts
>666k
>66m
>6b
>666k
>does the same for all other ship contracts with varying starting prices
>earn myself 8m
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>>161963689
I'm guessing it's trash? Kestrel is the ship btw.
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>>161963970
wut
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>>161964010
scambot selling ship contracts in a 'buy first firesale contest' 'for cheap' turns out to be a, surprise, scam
I don't have enough money to buy the actual scam contracts so I just mash on them all and get the cheap ships which I flip for their market value
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>>161964056
Oh, nice!
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>>161964056
>>161964010

>>161964186
yeah everyone caught on after the first wave and only spammed on the first of the contracts, sucks for the bot.
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>>161963972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je5UPKssuiE

Your fit seems fine, only thing that's bothering me is that your eHP is rather low, can alphas not use bigger shield extenders?
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>>161963829
Alright, I'll try that. Thanks. I'm still open to suggestions if anyone has them.
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>>161964404
Ah, I guess I could've fitted a medium one instead. That's what I get for copying 1-1 from o.smium.

Thnx for that video, will check it out.
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How do i lower 2.0% sales tax?
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>>161964812
overthrow the government
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>>161965286
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How do I run this through steam after the launcher update?

Can't get it to link up properly
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>>161965492
>boot through steam
>launcher opens
>image
>credentials
>log on
rocket science
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/Exhumer/ bros ww@?
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>>161965549
I don't have that on my launcher, only username/password input
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>>161965578
then fucking log on
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>>161965658
with what? my steam logon?

in the old launcher it linked automatically
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>>161965683
pretty sure you always needed a separate EvE account even if you were playing through Steam

still have no idea why people bother buying MMO's on Steam, it's just an added layer of annoyance
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>>161965904
Not that guy, but nope.
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It's the little things that make life worth living.
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>>161966093
>wasting money placing bounties on scammers that will never undock
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>>161966756
it's 100k, the fuck do I care?

>>161964252
>he came back
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planets can only have 1 poco at a time? How do you gain/lose them in hisec?
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Ms paint friend here. This is my latest "art"
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>>161967196
Wow, this is just like one of my japanese dragon dildo's!
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>>161962928

Join Pupper, they seem to be keen on teaching people to actually play without exploiting new players.
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>>161967196
It kinda looks like a spaceship. You should do one of eve onlines ships next!
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>>161967196
>Ms paint friend here
who
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>>161967373
CONS:
Have a guild named after a fucking reddit meme permanently branded to your employment history
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>>161967373
>without exploiting new players.
hahahahah
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>>161967323
I'd blame CCP
>>161967396
Tell me what one and I'll see what I can do.
>>161967424
Nobody! But some random guy that draws some ships in ms paint every now and then.
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>>161967552
Oh

I should draw more spaceships.
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>>161963972
also, upgrade your rigs to T2
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>>161967686
maybe, i have some ships to draw in the future and someone wanted a dragoon. So I'll have to draw them first. What would you like and I'll draw it in the future.
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>>161968440
>t2 rigs
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>got offered The Blockade twice in a row
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>>161968828
iuno you tell me
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Is the maelstrom good?

What is a good fit for it? Solo PVP

Just getting a second opinion here.
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>>161969818
>maelstrom
>solo pvp
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>>161969818
>solo pvp
>>
>PvP
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>>161969818
Yeah its good for solo

https://zkillboard.com/kill/56782305
(4v1)
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>>161962831
>mfw no face
>>161953247
Your roleplay actually made me smile, good job anon!
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>join corp
>like it
>except that the corp leader is a huge faggot

what do?
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>>161970642
Invite the members of your current corp to leave and make a new one with you.
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>>161970642
Get to high ranks in this corp and overthrow the leader.
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>>161970167
How do you fuck up faces that bad, I'm genuinely curious
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>>161967103
By destroying the one that is there right now or buying it off the corp
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>>161969818
>trigger control
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>>161970831
>the bitch literally has the trigger pulled the entire way
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>>161970762
Be CCP. It's a bug introduced in Ascension, but I have no idea how to force the game to generate them.
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>tfw wasting a bonus remap on drone skills
Just fuck my shit up
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>>161971001
>Skilling drones in the current meta
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>>161971181
I have 80M+ SP and not even 2M of that is drones
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>>161968967
looks like you have talent senpai, maybe try some angles
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>>161971643
>you
>imgur filename
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Man I fucking hate how all over the place L3 missions can be, you either get ones where you warp in at 0, 1-shot everything or you get these retarded fucking orbit seasons with rats that can easily out-rep ~300dps
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>>161950389
wrong
>>161949178
'unsecured' & 'forgotten' are the ones protected by sleepers.

you only go for 'pirate faction name something'

wormholes are actually the best for explo, null is bubblefucked and camped most of the time, unless you enter it from within a wormhole in some dead end whatever the fuck space.

it just takes time and it is very random. so random in fact that I refuse to touch that repugnant shit ever again
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>>161965683
steam generates a "username" for your steam account. in my case it just shows up on the launcher if I launch it through steam, so I can just click it to log in. If it doesn't show up when you boot the launcher up through steam, maybe consider asking support what's up with that.
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>>161941807

Is this in Black Rise?
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Open to suggestions on this Raven fit (besides deleting it)
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>tfw you get in a small cozy corp in the middle of nowhere

It's surprisingly nice
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>>161967480
Hows that worse than having KF/Horde/Brave or generic highsec shitter corp #234234 on your history?
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>guild
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>>161965683
>go to e-o.com
>create real EVE login for your Steam EVE account
>never have to use Steam again
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>>161975091
Light drones, and maybe some T2 missiles, but I haven't used cruise missiles in a long time.
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Does anyone want to make a guild with me??
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>>161978441
in what?????
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>>161978441
Like a raiding guild?

sign me up
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>>161978441
hello??????????
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As an alf, should I risk dumping all my ISK into gas huffing, or should I play it safe and get a Gnosis for level 3 security missions?
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>>161978876
>should I risk

Sure, do that, "risk" is just a meme and doesn't actually mean anything.
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>>161978876
A single gas run should pay for itself several times over
A Gnosis is much more expensive and pretty shitty for level 3 missions which are terribly boring anyways.
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i'm alpha for now, is gas huffing in a venture profitable? never bothered with mining much after my first week or two desu
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>>161979090
>>161979143
Thanks for the advice. While the price for the skill book is giving me an aneurysm, I'll try it out.
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>>161979294
I'd say it's pretty okay, you get your investment back fairly easily and you just follow https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19u20zoTLCk5Cuy7HTqJPXrF4hZ6gsKlD1zmIb8Cn9b8/edit#gid=0 and never stay more than 15~ min
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>>161979294
It's best if you do it in wormholes
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>>161978876
Get a Drake for lvl 3's, outside of a handful of missions it's borderline impossible for the rats to even scratch your armor.
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>>161979584
I would if I weren't an alpha for the moment.
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>>161979489
eh that doesn't sound half bad

>>161979521
i'm scared of wormholes ever since i saw a girl
i guess it's okay to lose a bunch of shit fit ventures though, do i only need to bookmark entrances and exits and autistically check dscan to optimize my own safety?
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>>161979850
you'll want to bookmark entrance and exit because fucking duh
dscans are only remotely helpful but should keep you on your guard, just remember that the loot is more important than any potential danger, so you should also be orbiting the cloud so your speed's up to snuff
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>>161980116
>not sitting right in the middle of the cloud, so nothing can decloak within like 30km of you
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>>161979294
No, it is shit. Do not do it.
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>>161980913
>Bomber decloaks and points you from 36k
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>>161981321
Why not? I've been doing some ghost sites (looting a single can and warping away) and 1-3/10 ded sites but those are inconsistent and I'm quite bored of them to be honest.
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>>161981608
>you have stabs gg
>>
How many "recruit a friends" can you do?

Say I link my account to one of my bros, and he buys Omega (or I buy it for him), and I get a plex. Then can I do this for multiple other bros?

And what does the "enable friend connect" do?
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>>161983176
No limit as far as I can tell
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>>161983176
There used to be a limit, but it is gone
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>>161983176
The policy is pretty much just 'don't abuse it' without really defining what that means
I'm sure you're fine
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>>161983176
>Say I link my account to one of my bros, and he buys Omega (or I buy it for him), and I get a plex. Then can I do this for multiple other bros?

You need to create an account with the referral link then buy a sub.

There's no real way to abuse it
>>
How do I use dotlan to see the lowest populated systems near me?
This website is confusing as hell but I wanna learn it.
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>>161985686
go to your region or wherever, get that dropdown box next to the region one and look at the 'live' section. places with few jumps and kills are probably what you're looking for.

the in-game map has a thing that tells you number of active pilots in space in the last 30 minutes, you cannot see this on dotlan or other out of game things
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>>161985686
another great website to use

http://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/
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>>161985893
Thanks mate.
>>
With Christmas coming up I'd like to buy some game time for my dad who plays, is there any way to do that?

I don't see any of the gift card type things and if I give him money he'll just blow it on other stuff.
>>
>>161974610
Metropolis
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>>161986589
make a character, buy PLEX and send it to him via a contract
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>>161986589
You can donate game time
Right click plex
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>>161964812
Great things happen if you own the means of production.
Ever live in sov null?
>>
The hell is 'sov' space?
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>>161988010
nullsec space that is owned by players. some nullsec is owned by NPCs, players cannot get sov there. they can still put pos and citadels up, but they don't get any of the carebearing bonuses from sov
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>>161988010
null babby space officially owned by null babby alliances
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>Forced to mine in a system without a station
>Have to jump every time and then dock to sell
>Have to use Procurer
>Only get 1.7mil a run

JUST
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>>161988494
who is forcing you to mine anon, I can help
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>>161979850
Gas huffing is the *safest* Alpha activity in w-space.
Scan a gas site, warp in, bookmark the cloud, warp out, warp to bookmark at 0km.
You are now inside a gas cloud. People have to decloak to approach you.

Regular safety practices still apply (pre-align, dscan, etc.) but you're pretty much guaranteed to get away.
You can still die, especially if they bubble your home wormhole, but you won't die while gas huffing.
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Bought Plex, it automatically activated on my account. Next time, how do I make it an in game item to be moved around in my inventory?
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>Pick Minmatar who have suffered for generations under Amarr rule
>Pick freedom to choose my own way
>Stuck mining in some backshit system for pennies until I can afford even more mining gear to get slightly more pennies

CAPITALISM IS HELL
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c >>161951003
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>>161989597
>>161989709
what the fuck are you doing
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>>161989339
>not being part of the glorious amarr empire

We could have done great things, anon.
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>>161989781 linking to the wrong post
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>>161989339
>>161989798
There is one chosen people in New Eden and it is Caldari master race
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>they don't fly all races
>they don't even have 80m sp
baka
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>only 80
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>>161990449
>even
What are lower bounds?
>>
Do we have a better idea yet of what an alpha clone can do for isk, or is it still pretty much pissant amounts of mining, FW, and exploration?
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>>161990449
5.4m ):
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>>161990780
jita erp
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>>161990449
80m SP is roughly the amount you need to fly all sub caps
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>>161990780
You forgot ratting. And (some) manufacturing is viable.
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>>161991010
>look guys I can undock!

>no tp v
>no tsm v
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>>161991078
Which manufacturing? And I didn't think they could solo rat, but fair nuff
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>>161991108
>her account isn't old enough to have trained the old capital shield tanking requirements
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>>161991386
>didn't think they could solo rat,
Vexor Navy Issue.
Not sure if Caldari have a good ratting ship.
>Which manufacturing?
Whatever's profitable.
Alpha have to pay a bit extra in taxes,
but no skills reduce manufacturing expenses.
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>capitals
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>Subcaps
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Why haven't you joined EVE Online General?
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>>161988494
Just join Karmafleet, they are really good at mining.
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>>161992092
but anon, we are in /eog/ right now
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>>161992174
/eog/ is only the start
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>>161970642

Which corp?
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>>161992654
Pupper Appreciation Station
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>>161992739
>except that the corp leader is a huge faggot
The Connoisseur is based though?
>>
>ate an entire pizza
>so low energy I can't even spin my ship effectively

guess that's it for the night, see you in the morning /eog/ o7
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>>161992971
Use a macro.
>>
>Kill a guy with a 300mill bounty
>Get 18mill payout
I didn't really pay attention to the bounty changes when they happened, why did I get so little?
>>
>>161993281
The amount you get depends on how expensive their ship was
I think it's like 10% or something
>>
>>161950774
If you have a spare laptop/desktop laying around, can't you slap on a VPN on it, then multibox alphas?
>>
>>161992092
>16 members
>Headquarters: Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant

Maybe if I get tired of my current corp
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>>161971763
Yes me, i just snagged a bit from it with sharex
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>>161992092
I'll join right away as long as you don't make me do boring shit.
>>
>>161992843
>The Connoisseur is based though?
no he is a huge faggot who takes things waaaaay to seriously

mini napoleon
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>>161978441
>redditor is upset someone doesn't like his meme clan
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>>161994525
No anon, it is time for your cloaky camping shift.
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>>161994690
Joke's on you, I can't even TRAIN cloaking.
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anyone willing to throw a noob a referral? Hit me up at [email protected]

Thanks in advance
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>>161994891
Sent
Hit me up once you subscribe
>>
>>161993948
>Maybe if I get tired of my current corp.

I said the same thing. I am in a corp of all my alts.
>>
>Mining
>Mining skills getting ranked

I don't even know what I want to do once I get all the isk I want. I like the idea of PvP but it sounds like the encouters take a while.

Maybe a logi bro?
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>>161995101
why tho
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>>161995207
Haven't played for a year. Returned now and just spin my Rhea in amarr...
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.>>161994595 mini napoleon
Napoleon was a total baller.
He was a talented general, but he gave no fucks.
Told his army to fight quieter once, so he could sleep.
>>
What is the best bet for a working man?
I can't PvP all the time at odd hours, I've been semi-afk mining in high sec in a Procurer and Retriever mostly.

Should I just aim at making my own Mining Corp eventually?
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>>161995646
HS Incursions.

Used to FC them when in university, afterwards when I started working I would turn up one weekend a month and plex 3 accounts as well as have isk to spend on things to blow up.
>>
>>161995858

This is also how I plexed my account once but it made me want to off myself so I've just paid ever since
>>
>tfw i only log in to put new skills in my queue because i am too scared to fly around in my new big ship that i invested 80% of my money into
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>>161995952
The only downside, again when FCing its not so bad because you are doing something more than face-desking around sites.

Now I only have one account subbed and thinking of letting it drop. EvE just doesn't entertain me any more...
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>>161996050
Post screencap of ship and fit.

Post character name.

Receive prize.
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>>161996050
>inb4 raven or some t1 garbo
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>>161996050
>never fly what you cant afford to lose
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>>161995858
I still don't understand Incursions that well, time to google.
>>
>>161995858
Best ship for these?
Would a Logi bro make bank in here?
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>>161996713
Logis generally need logistics cruiser V, top cap skills, top shield transfer skills, scimi or basi and understand logi chains if in a basi
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>>161996171
wow really? thanks anon. heres a screenshot of my omen. i bought it because it sounded cool but after asking a few people its apparently shit. my game is bugging out so i have to reload but ill get a shot of my fit in a moment. my fitting isn't even done, the only things i have been able to buy for it are the turrets.

character name is MagnumJohnson

>>161996256
yeah its apparently a piece of shit but hey thats the life of an alpha clone

>>161996315
thats why i havent really flown it yet.
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>>161997332
He did this to gank you, you idiot.
>>
As a fresh sub, I was looking corps to join. Using the ingame corp finder, it seems like AirHogs are my best fit, but I'll welcome any amount of bashing on how stupid that would be.
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>>161997332
>omen
>80% of your isk
M8 pls. Also your fit is shit and your overview is shit as well.

I might drop some isk your way when I login.
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>>161997469
who cares? i never undock anyway because my ship isnt ready. he can have fun camping outside my corps base for days waiting for me.
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did i do good
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>>161997575
yeah i'm brand new to the game. like i said, my fitting isnt done. i just slapped on random shit i had from my previous ships. the only things i have actually bought for it are 3 medium turrets and ammo.
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>>161997332
You play on two screens?

>>161997753
Don't just sprint into bigger ships as soon as you can fly them. A mediocre fit coercr is better than a shit fited omen.
>>
Best ship for a newbie Omega to get into Incursions?
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>>161997938
Mach, megathron, vindi
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>>161997938
tengu
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>>161997836
nope just 1 screen.

i bought the omen and was planning on flying my coercer to save up money. i ended up caught in a bubble by a gate camper and blown up though. luckily i was insured but i haven't bought another because it would empty my wallet.
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>>161998324
If you have only one screen, where is your overview then?
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>>161997938
Armor ships like megathron are easy to learn but there's like a total of one armor fleet to really join up with, shield has a lot more opportunities because they got a little bit faster but has bigger fuckwits at the helm
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>>161998573
oh, i minimized a ton of stuff. i usually have a lot of clutter because i keep multiple chats and tabs open.
>>
>thought everything below hi sec was a free for all
>attached a pod sitting on the gate in .3 system
>killed by guns

Oops
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>>161999863

Attacked*
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>>161999863
In low sec gates and stations attack you.
>>
Orthrus
Y/N?
>>
>>162001119
>Gay
>Y/N

Look into your heart, you already know the answer.
>>
>raptor
>cargo of null goodies
>smartbomb pops me to 40 structure
>phew, dodged a bullet, right?
>the game crashes my nvidia drivers three jumps later, while I still have combat timer on
>log in, still alive

I dont want to undock anymore.
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How was your day fellow capsuleer?
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>>162002064
Killing miners in null. You must be so proud Houjuu Nue...
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>>162002232
I-it's not always safe.
>>
>6430m/s

pls go
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>>162002064
>Logged on
>Killed a Stratios and Astero who wandered into our wh a few minutes later
>Had dinner
>Came back and immediately had a great small gang fight in a nearby hole
Today was a good day
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>>162002064
Not good. I'm in a carebear hihg sec industry corp which got wardecc'd by CODE so our mining operations are suspended and I'm just spinning my barge in station.
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>>161960831
>trading spreadsheets

Is there a good way to pull the best sell/buy orders in a Region for a given product? All I've managed to pull with an API is ALL the orders and thats not useful to me in the slightest.
>>
>Missiles
>>
>>162003439

>highsec mining
>an entire corp for highsec mining

Loving every laugh
>>
I have around 150 mil and have been considering getting into industry. Problem is, every time i do the math(with max material/time eff.) the end result is barely scraping 10 mil/day if the market is generous. Is building things just a shit career or am i missing something?
>>
>>162005791
Hey, I'm a newbro and dont like pvp too much, so that's a chill thing I can do on my second screen while I play real games or watch movies/series.
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>>162005907
the margins are always going to be weak when the barrier of entry is so low
>>
>>161994595

>takes things too seriously

I have a hard time believing you have ever even met him. Has he changed a lot these past few years are something?
>>
>>162003439
Join Karmafleet. They can protect you while you mine in their mining fleets.
>>
>Asshole corp in MY ass end of space mining MY rocks

These fucking Ventures need to eat shit. How can I report people to Code.?
>>
Is the player activity in the map reliable? I'm using it to find dead systems but there are always people there still
>>
>>162008882
It's delayed, it just gives you a general idea.
>>
>>162008593
>>162008882
>All these people griping about people in their space mining
Makes me more and more want to set up a mining corp in a certain empty chunk of space.
>>
>>162009578

I'm not a miner, I just want to find WHs without being interrupted every 10 seconds
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>>162009642
Even better; The chunk of space I have in mind usually has like 5 wormholes at any given time in it. Usually C3-C4's.
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>>162009642
How are you interrupted probing? You are supposed to be sitting in a safespot, flying into non-celestial direction while cloaked if equipped to do so.
>>
>>162009578
>in a certain empty chunk of space
Good luck finding this.
>>
I'm a new omega, maybe 3 weeks old.
I have gotten 140m ISK from mining, but I literally don't know what to spend it on. I usually just buy better ships or gear but I'm pretty set as far as mining ships and gear goes right now (skills).

Any ideas? I know it's not a lot of money, but it's definitely just sitting there.
>>
>>162010713
ship explosions

ideally ship explosions that make other people mad and destoy things they cherish
>>
>>162010713
Hoard it or blow it on PvP or PvE ships
>>
>>162010713
140m is not a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. Wait until you're at 14b to ask that question.
>>
>>162010871
How hard is it to be this thick in the head?
>I know it's not a lot of money but it's definitely just sitting there

Are you fucking dense?
Are most people in EVE this fucking stupid?
>>
Iv been theory crafting caracals and was just wondering for the limited adaptive invulnerability fields do i want 10 second activation time/duration or 12 seconds?

Im assuming 12 seconds is better because it lasts longer but im not 100% sure.
>>
>>162010881
Well if you cannot cloak I will assume you are an alpha, meaning you are most certainly not sitting in anything worth bringing out the combat probes for ... so again, how can anyone interrupt you?
>>
>Find a good place to mine
>All immedaite offers are undercut by 50% or more

Go fuck yourself.
Whats the best way to sell this stuff, put it up on the market but make sure it's a lot of it?
>>
>>162011878
>mining in 2016
Sell it in Jita but prepare to get undercut by botters in ships worth 3000x yours that have been mining 23 hours a day for the last 10 years.
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>>162010280
Just ran around the pocket and took a headcount. Maybe 20 people at most.

>>162011073
Then save that 140m. Just because you can buy that shiny new ship doesn't mean there isn't an asshole around the corner ready to drive a fireaxe into your skull for a laugh.

140m in nullsec is like 2-3 hours ratting. 4 if you're not that fast. But to have space like that, with endless sanctums/hordes isn't easy to come by, and those numbers aren't viable for a low-SP character. So save your money, keep upgrading your gear. It takes money to make money, so having as much money as you can so in case things go bad you aren't starting all over again.

>>162011878
Haul it to Jita. Or buy the undercut stuff and try to manipulate the prices.
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>>162012036
I have a feeling I'll just get owned if I bring it to Jita, should I buy a 'hauler'? What is a good one? I have a Mammoth.
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>>162012724
Mammoth is perfecty fine; it's what I use to haul ore for L4 Missions.

Mastodon (T2 Mammoth) has a huge bay to store things (50k m3, gets a 5%/skill bonus on capacity) for hauling more. If you're scared of getting blapped on exiting Jita, take a fast frigate out there, burn ~300km off of the undock, and make a bookmark to get you off the station fairly quickly.

If you're truly scared of Jita, there's many other trade hubs you can haul to (Hek, Rens, Dodixie, etc.) that might not have as high turnover volume, but will usually have buyers.

Otherwise, sit on your ore and work on your refine skills.
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>>162012724
Contract that shit out.
Haulers happily work for nothing.
>>
>>162012989
I love my Mammoth, someone told me to get a Miasmos but I don't see the point.

I'm (fairly) close to Hek, and I've done business there before, I guess I'll go for that after I've loaded up on ore.

Thanks.

>>162013115
How much is exactly 'nothing'?

>left my Hobgoblins, again
just end me.
>>
What's the best way to find 10/10 DED sites? Scanning, or do anoms and hope for escalation?
>>
>>162013978
>How much is exactly 'nothing'?
As little as you want it to be, people do it because it's "comfy"
>>
>>162013995
Both have similar chances of escalation, I believe.
>>
>>162002758
is that with snakes?
>>
I know I'm gonna get shit for this but here goes nothin: Is there no way to bind a hotkey for telling mining drones to mine? I know there is a hotkey to order combat drones to engage, but I can't find anything in-game or any up-to-date answers online.
>>
>>161999016
there is not a lot of stuff you ever want to minimize in eve, you better start getting used to a full UI, only way to get away from this is playing with 2+ screens extended client
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>>162015129
He literally said he only cleaned it up for the screenshot you fucking sperg.
>>
>>162015052
No idea, but you could write a macro?
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CODE. just tried to gank my Procurer with 5 Hornets in 0.8 space.

That was embarrassing for them.
>>
>hornets

good taste
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>>162015052
I haven't used mining drones in years, but can't you just use the same shortcut key as combat drones?
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>>162018625
Nope
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Join new eden lifting club today and get a free bucket hat, were doing skitz shit all day every day
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One of my long-ish term goals is to be able to fly a dread or a carrier. What can you do solo, if anything, in either of them? I'm in a null alliance with plenty of space.
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>>162019491
ratting
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>>162019491
solo pvp in both of them
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>>162015394

they have no sense of shame or else they wouldn't be in code. to begin with
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>>162019491

sounds like you are in test, so, lose them cause you don't want intel and then bitch and moan a bout it
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Well I just tried gas huffing for the first time and its safe to say that's one of the most boring things I've ever done in a video game
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>>162021135
EVE is not for you. Bye.
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>>162021135
you do it while watching shit or whatever
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>>162021284

Nah I just prefer actually doing things. Like shooting for example.

Scanning and then orbiting a cloud for 20mins isn't exactly thrilling
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>>162008481
>in their mining fleets

What about the other 160 hours of the week?
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>>162021714
I thought they were mining in Rorquals 23/7?
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>>162021398
Nothing in EVE is thrilling you retard. Go play CoD or BF1 dork.
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>>162021789
I guess I've never been in karmafleet, maybe they do things differently there.

In my alliance there was always rorqual fleets up that you could join, take a squad, and warp yourself in and out and shit. But thats a lot different than an organized fleet op thats relatively safe because you actually have protection.

If you got caught by a black ops drop in one of the passive rorqual fleets no one was coming to save you. There is literally no excuse for getting caught by a dictor unless they are logged off in the anomaly or something.
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>>162015052
Have to right click on your drone wing to order them to "mine repeatedly"
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>>162022463
I understand that, I just wanted a shortcut so I could avoid clicking things
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>>162021714
Can join their ratting fleets, I guess? What else Goons do?
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>>162022529
I don't think there isn't and part of understanding this is that CCP has been fighting botter for years, so they've made most of the stuff cumbersome to use.
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>>162022746
Hm, fair enough
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>>162022189
I was under the impression that you just open a cyno and activate your Invulnerability Core module when someone tries to gank your Rorqual.. But maybe things are different in Karmafleet and they're really just meatshields?
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>>162021135
you need to huff IRL as you're doing it for the full experience
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>>162021398
>orbiting a cloud
You trying to get ganked? You supposed to be *in* the cloud, pre-aligned too.
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>>162021398
The only thing that is really thrilling for me is small gang/solo PvP. But I'm really bad at it, so that may be the reason. Everything else is more or less boring. Incursions are boring as hell, but I do them, because it gives ISK. Gas huffing is boring, but it's one of the best ways to get ISK as alpha, so I did it too. Updating market orders is incredibly boring too.
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>>162023921
pre-aligned isn't comfy. just sit still right in the middle. nobody can do anything to you
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>>162024351
You can sit pre-aligned and still.
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>>162024550
>>162024351
you realize prealigning doesn't do anything right?
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>>162024550
you got me
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>>162024658
On interceptors? Maybe.
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>You can sit pre-aligned and still.
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>>162024889
No in general, you'll align at the same time stopped looking in any direction. Your ships direction doesn't matter
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>>162024982
So, is Evasive Maneuvering 5 a useless skill?
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>>162025510
No it is a useful skill. Sitting still and pointing at your station doesn't help you align faster
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The Eve Community is always a very interesting one.
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>>162025552
But you don't need to align if you are already pre-aligned. The only thing that left is to get 3/4 of max speed and warp off.
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>>162025909
There is no such thing as "pre-aligning"
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>>162025909
Facing the right direction doesn't help you start accelerating from a standstill, it's irrelevant.
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>>162026137
>>162025956
And your ship instantly rotates towars your warp destination? Sure. Keep orbiting your gas cloud then :^)
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>>162026348
You are fucking dumb

if you're going zero speed, the direction of your ship has no influence over your vector or your acceleration or align time
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I really enjoy the passive align meme, it's one of my favourites
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>>162026348
not the same guy, but yes, that's exactly it. your ship is treated like a vector, and it doesn't matter what direction it's visually pointed that. if it's at 0 m/s, that means it'll instantly face whatever direction you want as soon as it starts moving.
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>I really enjoy the passive align meme
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ded game
ded thread
rest in rip
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Dead thread post dogs
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>dogs
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>>162029987
>
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>join WH corp
>C3 WH access
>gas sites are clear
>they provided the skillbooks and the venture
>the only thing I need to do is get something to watch while I mine
This is a lot easier than exploring. Time to make an alt to actually do shit while I mine. Will CCP ban me if I use 2 PCs to use 2 alphas with the same IP?
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>It's a PL chases Goons to Delve episode
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>>162030683
Just claim it's a family member, the fuck they gonna do?

Also, what WH corp, I can do alpha gas huffing.
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as a scared alpha heron, how do I set foot into nullsec without being gate camped raped?
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>3d map
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>>162031879
Wormholes friend, wormholes.
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>>162031879
http://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/
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>>162031342
Some games apply IP restrictions to this kind of stuff, hence the question.

>Also, what WH corp, I can do alpha gas huffing.
Post in any of the vg chats. I should warn you though, it doesnt seem like an organized corp.

>>162031879
warp core stabilizers, warp to celestial object on the side of the system then to the gate (they place the warp inhibitors kinda far from the gates in lowsec)
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>>162031879
first, use the old map
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Can i get a referral?
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>>162033120
http://secure.eveonline.com/signup/?invc=0769b2bb-ece7-4286-b8e5-d1563fe5510f&action=buddy
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>>162032689
>a full application form
>except how to actually submit it
hrNNRGH
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>lvl1 gas harvesting
>was able to use 2 harvesters
>reached lvl2 while harvesting
>suddenly I cant use the second one
>lvl up an unrelated skill
>back to being able to use the second gas harvester
I just dont know.
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>>162033745
Yeah I had that issue last day, the thing just flips the fuck out until you relog/level another skill

pissed me the fuck off in a c5 gas cloud for sure.
>>
Any reason to use the jackdaw over a svipul/confessor yet
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>>162033893
I find it quite hard to belive that a game this old has that kind of bugs.
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>>162035062
You can run armor on it now
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>Your salvaging attempt has failed this time.

8 times in a goddam row reeee
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>>162035062
its not as good as the svipul and doesnt look as radiant as the confessor so no
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Blopsing is strange.
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>>162036993
why
>>
>getting sick of the hacking mini game
>just found out about wh gas huffing

looks like I found my new skinner box
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>>162032689
>Some games apply IP restrictions to this kind of stuff, hence the question.
In case all the botting hadn't tipped you off, CCP can't be assed to catch exploiting.
When the trial got changed, the launcher wouldn't even try to stop you from running multiple Alpha.
I *think* that got fiixed in the patch a few days ago, not going to bet on it though.

On the very, very off-hand chance that you get asked about it, claim it's a relative.
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>>162038331
Subscriptions plateaued from 2011-2013 and has been losing players ever since. F2P is a desperation move, as it is with all mmorpgs. If they haven't cracked down in Jita botting after all these years, they won't do anything to limit the influx of alpha clone players.
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>Engineering complex I set up blueprints to research on has closed its doors and is unanchoring
>My shit is still in it
What do? Should I poke the people running it to see if I can at least get my BPO's out?
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>>162039009
That would be smart. Make sure they don't gank you on the way out.
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>>162039194
Considering that it's in a 0.7 that shouldn't be that big of an issue. It's also a corp of 3 people, so what could they really do?
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>>162039009
asset safety, dont worry
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>>162039009
They have nothing to lose by letting you, and nothing to gain by stopping you.
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>>162039002
>Subscriptions plateaued from 2011-2013 and has been losing players ever since
how many players did eve had during 2013?
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>>162039961
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>>162039961
I don't think there's any info on total number of players, just average/peak logged in.
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>>162039772
So I should cancel my jobs before the citadel unanchors, and hope they land in another station.

It's not like these are anything special either; I literally bought them fresh from the market and threw them at the lab. If I'm out 3m, that's not that bad.

Also, if I were to start up a Mining corp in a tucked away 0.6 pocket, do you think I'd get miners to set up shop?
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>>162040362
That depends, what do you have to offer them? A hauling program? Fleets with boosts? If so, then sure, but if you don't have anything to offer them then they'd have no reason to join you, especially if it's in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and they'd have to haul the ore a long distance to sell it.
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>>162040362
>I should cancel my jobs before the citadel unanchors
Oh, it's a citadel? c >>162039680, you have 5 days to pick a nearby site for delivery.
If you send them within the system, it's free. Otherwise you pay 15% of their value at pickup.

>in a tucked away 0.6 pocket
And serious mining activity will require several systems.
>do you think I'd get miners to set up shop?
To the corp? Only if you offer good benefits.
Or to POSs? Yes, if the taxes are low and you have a few facilities.
>>
*Any
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>>162040460
I could probably offer hauling, or set up a MOPS system that buys at 90% Jita. I've wanted to get a Freighter for a while, but never had a reason to.

>>162040717
So if I deliver the researched BPC's before the 5 days are up (4D 16h on research, 5D ~6h on unanchor) and have them sent to a station in the same system, I should be good.

>Serious mining activity will require several systems
14 0.8 belts and 35 0.6 belts, across six systems be good enough? Not to mention mining anomalies, and a 0.7 ice belt just outside of the pocket if necessary?

And I was considering getting a citadel, though it's not 100% in bumfuck nowhere; It's not too far from a career agent system and a market hub.
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>>162041210
>So if I deliver the researched BPC's before the 5 days are up (4D 16h on research, 5D ~6h on unanchor) and have them sent to a station in the same system, I should be good.
Hmm? Ah, sure I guess. You can wait til it finishs unanchoring. Your item won't *be* anywhere, but they'll still exist for 5 days. And you can teleport them to anywhere nearby.

>It's not too far from a career agent system and a market hub.
That's desirable. Even in hi-sec, people don't like leaving tons of vulnerable crap lying around.
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>>162041678
And since it's far enough away from the general clusterfuck of miners sucking ore from the belts (as bitched about >>162008593 and >>162008882 ) it should still have some ore stocked in it for general harvesting. Sure it won't be the prime stuff (unless they want to stay up until DT) but considering how many signatures spawn and how many of them are wormholes, hopping into a C1 to sneak mine ABC is also an option. Given that they mash DScan and don't get nixed by sleepers.
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Do these big nullsec corps really hand out free ships all the time or will they kick me if I you just fly whatever tackling frigates they supply and make no efforts to grind Isk?
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>>162042619
They won't kick you, but they will slow down the "giving you free ships" thing.
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>>162042619
You pay corp taxes on stuff like ratting and custom offices that pay for the ships. Plus only select people have access to the free ship hangar they aren't going to give you free ships ad neasusm just for dicking around.
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is there a corp that roleplays as isis?
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>>162043925
Almost certainly.
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>>162043925
CARE and TISHU come to mind.
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>>162043925
CODE has a different aesthetic going on, but it's all allahu akbar all the time.
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How the fuck do you go around the sensor recalibration on cloaky sabres? Anything can burn out of bubble in 20 seconds.
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Hi I want to play the scanner type ships but everytime I try to go find loot I get blown up or someone beats me to it, are there any corps that own a large portion of nullsec space that would let me in just so I can grind ISK off of relics? I just want to scan
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>>162045561
>See gate fire
>Decloak
>Fire Bubble
>Wait for a bite

Most people piss themselves when they spawn in a bubble, and will usually hold their cloak while they figure out what the fuck to do. From there it's just a matter of latching onto them before they either burn to gate or burn out.
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>>161972814
>wrong
>please see >>161941512 (You)
>sleeper will have "Unsecured / Forgotten" in the name
not wrong, you are blind

do not give bad advice, wormholes are SHIT isk/hour for exploration. eve-scout and npc null will get you all the riches you want
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>>162046106
I'd prefer to actually know what is gonna decloak
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>>162046195
Then play gate games. Unless you don't get an aggression timer for firing an interdiction bubble.

If something comes through that might fuck your face up, jump gate, throw a bubble and burn out.
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>>162045895
alright so what's the best null sec corps that would let a scanner noob in. i scanned for a few months before my sub ended about a year ago I want to get back into the game
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>>162046343
You can join a wh corp as a scanwhore
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>>162046881
yeah but wh are dodgy the holes are always closing up then you get pooped out into nullsec and fucked to death
>>
Decided to drop through a WH that popped up in my home sector.

Never had so much fun mining as I do with the ever looming threat of getting my shit blown up more present than ever.

Thanks for telling me of the vast riches in Null guys, wouldn't have tried this without that.
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>>162046343
>null
wormhole

>>162047110
Holes tell you if they are dying
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>>162047360
The game can be pretty fun when you dive into dangerous territory, otherwise its boring as fuck.
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>>162048094
>>162048094
>>162048094

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