/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>161715367
>CK2 Monks and Mystics Announced
Will it be good? Will it finally have the inquisition?

>>161715404
Based

>>161715520
The secret society stuff looks promising but dunno
Could be fun joining monastic orders

Why no one is talking about the new eu4 dlc?

>>161714602
More like stale meme.

>>161715587
>mordor meme

>>161715603
He said eu4 dumbass

>>161715404
Childhood is idolizing Discordgroup, adulthood is realizing R&I made more sense.

>>161715545
THIS.
Finally I can be a part of the templars and jerk for to "remove kerbob" memes.

>>161715640
What the fuck are you talking about?

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>>161715404

Anyone has a link for the new eu4/ck2 patches?

>>161715404
W&B

>>161715708
Look in the OP

>>161715734
The russian site? But I don't want spyware.

>>161715637
Nice meme.

>>161715637
>queens never betrayed their husbands

>>161715763
That's what we have, suit yourself.

>>161715662
kids like shitposting therefore they join steam/discord groups

adults like serious discussion and grand strategy therefore they support R&I in efforts to purge the shitposters from /gsg/

Is hoi4 good yet?

>>161715876
no

>>161715708
>>161715763
https://kickass.cd/search.php?q=europa+universalis

>>161715896
What's wrong with it?

>>161715972
>scam sites

>>161715404
absolutely white

>>161715979
For one it's boring and the AI is shit.
Not even him.

>>161716063
Any real citicism tho?

>>161715996
lol k not like I'm playing the updated version from this at all

>>161716081
>Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>161716095
Sure, are you enjoying that bitcoin miner and the spyware minigames?

>>161716105
I'm not shitposting, just looking for better criticism than 'its easy'

>>161716216
just play blackice mod and its fun

>>161716305
>BICE

>>161716305
That isn't criticism

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I am slowly getting bored with this game (now also own Saxony, Thuringia, Brunswick and Croatia)

What could be some fun things to do? I like RPing a lot so any shit in that regard is welcome

>>161716389
Every time you get big this game gets boring as fuck.

>>161716398
Yeah i got 700+ hours on it and i don't think i ever even got to year 1750 because i always got bored.

But there might be some fun things to do that are hard to achieve, like colonizing africa, dismantling France, conquering Constantinople

>>161716367
you asked if hoi4 is good yet. interpret what you will from me saying you need bice to have fun

>>161716534
This shit gets grindy. I had a game while I tried to tackle the turks but after I depleted their manpower they shat an army purely out of mercs about the same size. 200K mercs prancing around.

Late game gets so boring when you are big.

Why is hoi3 ai so bad?

>>161716883
It isn't.

>>161716883
You are just bad at it. There's a difference.

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>>161717129
>>161717130

>>161717267
HOLA REDITO

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So im checking out Greater Germany when Austria is joining.
>10% base chance for whole Austria to join
>5% if its a secondary power(which is required)
BUT THE CATCH IS
>factor 0 on being A-H or Constitutional Monarchy
So basically...Austria cannot fully join if its A-H or Con. Monarchy, only partially. Even if it fits the requirements its only 5% chance.
And Austria automatically becomes A-H once it drops to secondary power.


Why the fuck did you even write the option then?

>>161718273
>fully occupy Austria
>research N&I
>peace out for sphere
>form NGF
>form GER with AUS

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>>161718449
>sphere Austria
>as soon as war ends and you form NGF/Germany or it becomes sp it becomes KuK before join event triggers
>0% to fully join

>>161718696
You just can't unpaused it after they take the peace deal

>>161718787
Let me see that....hmmm.
Yup,its doable that way.
5% only still.

>>161718905
Also now that i think about it >>161718787 what happens if you do that German hegemony brotherly war and Austria becomes sp?

>>161719049
I'm not sure but I think the CB just disappears from the war, so you should have at least 2/3 of the south german minors sphered when you attack them so you can either add a wargoal on the sphereling itself or sphere them normally if they didn't join

>>161719173
Yeah id assumed as much.
All in all its going to be worth around 60 infamy so might as well arm up vs whole Europe.

>>161716137
If you're too retarded to pirate without getting buttfucked don't assume everyone else is too

>>161718696
>>161718273
>waah I can't make my GP nation even easier

>>161719916
>making an event nearly impossible for anyone except people who check event files
If it was standard 10% or so i wouldnt give a damn.

>>161720001
>waaahh I can't gobble up another GP just by sphering them, the chances are too low

>>161720101
>waah I'm complaining about GPs because my meme nations are too hard

>>161720101
>impossible unless you do it on a single exact day
>its so low people dont know its possible
Dont be such a baiting faggot laddie

>>161720262
It shouldn't be possible at all

>>161720482
Yet Napoleon gobbled up so much non-French land its comical.
What about Hapsburg Spain or Netherlands? What about Burgundy?

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R8 m8s.

1/2

>>161720675
shift f12 map pls

Try to take Indochina as well, gives you lots of soldier pops/ Also try to take Hainan and Taiwan through unequal treaties

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>>161720675
And 2/2.

Should I finish Mittelafrika by raping Portugal over the next few decades or just let them be?

>>161720749
Let them be, it makes your borders look better than just one ugly blob

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>>161720725
Here you go, famalam.

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>>161720854
Pretty good, but you need to expand into the Orient and maybe the carribean

Here are my suggestions

>>161720631
>comparing a-h to the Napoleonic wars
Full retard

>>161720854
epic grossgermania preussens gloria xd

>>161721218
>40 years is a long time
>meanwhile whole Europe gets liberal uprisings due to Napoleonic Wars

>>161721161
>African expansion
While it would be nice to connect my African lands, I think the most I'll do is take the rest of the Gold Coast and Volta and Togoland to make a nice and neat section of West Africa.

I like the rest of those suggestions, especially Kaisermania.

>>161721318
Full
Retard

>>161721937
Compelling
Argument

Why is it impossible in CK2 to add wargoals in a defensive war?

I hate going through the effort of winning a war and then getting nothing from it, and having to wait 10 years for the opportunity to get anything.

>>161722092
you don't have to wait 10 years.
in ck2, truces only affect the attacker.

>>161722175
Oh do they? I never noticed that. Can you declare war with mercs up?

>>161722316
yes

>>161715367
>old thread sitting at 693 replies
>there's two new threads
I fucking despise all of you

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r8 my yurop

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>>161722320
Which one?

More provinces means higher cost (50 adm and 20 ducats at most) but those provinces get the bonus (less unrest and dev cost, more production, tax, and manpower)

>>161723143
platos elsyia

>>161723093
>balkanized Russia, France and Italy
I like. How does east asia look like?

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>>161723331
It's alright, I guess?

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When does this thing usually collapse?

>>161723143
All provinces

>>161723485
>my game is 1204
>I'm playing Georgia

Shit when is this guna start?

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r8 pls lads I spent a lot of time getting these borders

>>161723616
Depends of the option you've choose for the mongol invasion date.

>>161723616
Around 1220 i think

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>>161723665
Pretty shit desu lad.

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>>161723665
>cropping out your country yet not cropping out yor parties
>4/5
>importing liquor
It's shit

>>161723794
I'm not seriously playing as Hungary, this is a CSA game

>>161723881
Sure thing

>>161723769
If the choice was historical or ahistorical I would have chosen historical. If it was dynamic I probably would have chosen that instead though.

>>161723771
Thanks.

>>161723782
Is that the needle gun?

>>161724196
No

>>161725082
What gun is it then?

>>161725270
Meme gun

How do I civilise and unite Japan in HPM? Just started btw
Aiming for that co-prosperity sphere

>>161725481
Westernize as Impy Japan and win the war against other Japan

>>161725957
I started as Shogunate Japan

>>161723769
>>161723771
Got the event in 1211.

>>161726028
idk i guess you should also westernize and win the war against other other Japan, or just reset as better Japan

>>161725481
Suck the US's dick until they sphere you. Meanwhile puppet as many pacific minors as you can. Once you get rid of isolationism go ham on Chayna.

>THREE FUCKING THREADS
Holy shit.

>>161723093
Occitania or Provence really should be readded, this balkanized France is shit

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Where could I find the composition for historical divisions (soviet ones, in particular)?

>>161723665
>cropping
just convert from png to jpg you fucking autists.

open the png with mspaint and save as jpg. it ends up just as accurate and up to 90% smaller in size.

>>161726550
>turkic bullet shield division
>mongolian cannon fodder brigade
>georgian execution squad
>manchurian rape battalion

thank me later

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Just dismantled Sweden and the Netherlands

rate muh empire

>Buy EU4 collection during sale
>Realize it doesn't include all the expansions
>Too autistic to play an incomplete game

Wonder if I should just pirate the rest.

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>>161727472
Oops, I was still taking their former colonies when I posted this

Here's the updated version

I plan on puppeting Indonesia once I can justify wars agani

>>161727472
Still missing central america and Portugal?Also please fix Africa.

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how the hell do they have HK this early

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хммм....

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>>161727796

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I managed to colonise my colonies in Africa quite well, which is a surprise for my small spanish population

>>161727720
Have you been raped after that war with the US or not?

>>161727796

This looks like the worst logistical nightmare in history. They are just asking to be cut in half.

>>161728351
It set me back 10 years, nearly all my South American puppets had shit loads of Commie rebels that took ages to deal with. I had to repuppet Mexico as well

>>161727796
>COBETCKNÑ COHO3
>CNHbU3RHb
>TNbET
>NPAK
God, cyrillic-based languages are utterly disgusting.

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Gee James, how come your Queen-Consort let's you have TWO spies in England?

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>>161728478
>It set me back 10 years, nearly all my South American puppets had shit loads of Commie rebels that took ages to deal with. I had to repuppet Mexico as well
Gee, who could have guessed that invading the US would go wrong

>>161728507
Can you spell Ц and Щ letter?

>>161728828
You mean U and W? I can't read subhuman moon runes, lad.

Can someone explain me how the fuck am I supposed to deal with land combat in HOI3, exactly?

There's like 30 land units on each side of the front, each one doing its own shit, plus planes and whatnot...

I don't think letting the AI handle it makes any sense, so how the fuck do you guys do it? Pause every two in-game-hours to recheck everything or what?

>>161728909
>british education

>>161728992
>implying I'm an crooked teeth inbred

>>161728960
Draw an arrow to moscow

>>161729051
You might as well be.

>>161729107
That's GoI 4, m8

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>HoI 4 (pls no memes)
>France (Little Entente focus)
>Defeat all fascists in Europe
>Japan is in axis, they're the last (major) power I'm at war with
>Neither Russia nor British India/Iraq/Iran want to give me military access
>Distance is too great for paratrooper invasion
>Can't secure naval dominance over enough regions to prepare for a naval invasion (I tried to get some subs to French India but they were almost instantly sunk by the Japanese)
>Can't declare war to secure a route to the orient because democracies can't justify wars against countries that haven't generated global tension
Please help me out here, how do I defeat Japan? I know I can take them, I just can't get to them. It's so frustrating.

>>161728960
I mean if you want to play optimally I guess you have to do that but you don't really have to go into that heavy micromanagement to do well. Just have your line units hold the lines and focus on smaller task forces and individual goals at a time like taking a city or crossing a river or doing a pocket or what not. You basically do one thing at a time and like magic the entire front moves forward bit by bit. You can of course also delegate some to the AI if you just can't be arsed with it but expect less than spectacular results.
Play on slower speeds if you have trouble.

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>>161729193
How often are you going to repost this?

>>161729239
Germany

>>161729193
>HoI 4
Stopped reading here.

>>161729193
see
>>161729107

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>>161729193
>pls no memes
stopped reading there :DDDD

>>161729215
I hate letting the AI control the battle because that makes me feel like I'm just shitting out new divisions for Mr. Computer to play with.
Plus, it fucks shit up mightily.

Will try following your advice, thanks.

How many expansion does HoI 4 needs before it gets good?

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>>161729239
French Caliphate

HIP link?

>>161729595
Too many.

>>161729239

Austria.

>>161729595
The big problem with HoI4 is its insistence on you just drawing meme arrows and letting the AI play for you.

Rest can be fixed easily-ish.

where can i get patch 3.04

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Is it possible to stop the civil war?
Like half of my troops are dixos

>>161729569
You don't have to give AI total control. You might give him a corp of obsolete units and tell it to defend the line so he plugs any gaps you might accidentally leave or maybe just give him few divisions and tell him to guard what ever you want. You don't necessarily have to use the AI by automating eastern theater and then putting a flag in Moscow.

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>>161729794
You should have just outlawed slavery before the great meme debate event occurs

>>161729891
I can't change slavery laws

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>>161729794
no

>>161729940
before the great meme debate event occurs

>>161729794
console events that reduce national conciousness

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157th for grob

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fuck you HPM
this doesn't make any fucking sense
if you are an imperialist motherfucker, why the fuck would going to war be affected
literally no fucking sense

>>161729290
>How often are you going to repost this?
Until I get an answer that isn't
>HoI IV

>>161730989
>100+ infamy

calm down nigga

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>>161731215
Because that's some random nigger's lands WE were going to invade!

>>161730989
Maybe it's because

>100+ infamy

>>161730989
Is it impossible to loose war exhaustion when you go over the infamy limit?

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>>161731313
>>161731395
it's just our duty to secure a steady supply of waifus for the future generations

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Newfag here. So how is HoI 3/DH superior to HoI 4? I know the common criticism against the latter is
>Draw an arrow to Moscow
But isn't HoI 3 the same? The impression I have is that the Order of Battle merely creates the illusion of complexity by adding needless micromanagement to what is essentially drawing a frontline.

So can you guys substantiate in what ways HoI 3 is superior to HoI 4? and perhaps speculate on how HoI 4 DLC may or may not fix this

>>161715367
>playing as catholic England
>got claim to the carribean
>snuffed out 'reformed centre' in scotland
>got 3 colonies in brazil and one in mexico on the trade node, about to get SA
>France has 2/3 of France and Burgundy has imploded.
>Allied with Castille, Austria, papal states and Portugal
>Already have Exploration finished and Expansion is 2 away from finishing
>can form GB but I have 7 rebellions on the way and don't want them all at once
Which idea group should I go for next, I'm turn between Quality, to win against France and then partition it with Burgundy, and Religious as exploration no longer gives you a casus beli against natives once you finish only an overseas claim.
Or is there an even better idea group to improve my situation

>>161731635
In HOI3 you can have the AI fight for you.
In HOI4 you must have the AI fight for you.

And no, it's definitely not the same.
I'm pretty shit at HOI3 but can rape anyone in HOI4.

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>>161729781
help me you niggers

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Redpill me on tariffs please. Right now I'm getting a good deal of money every day with just 25% tariffs. Would I get more money from ym factories if I set the tariffs to 0?

Is the Ottoman Empire fun in Vicky? I've never gotten around to playing them.

>>161728591
How did you actually do that, and what traits does your king have
post pics when it's 1st may 1488

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God damn, this was tough. I'm not sure why the devs decided to create a unique culture/religion with unique events and put them in the ass end of nowhere completely surrounded by Tomb Kings who can raise more troops from a single province than you can from two entire kingdoms. I think they just did it to see if someone was autistic enough to actually to succeed. Now I've got a nice doom stack and I'm going to fuck these corpses back to death.

>>161731938
>not having a completely closed economy with 100% tariffs and 0% taxes

>>161731938
Keep tariffs at 0 unless you need money, then shoot that number to whatever.

>>161731915
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/victoria-ii-v3-04-for-non-steam-clients-checksum-wnvu.907301/

>>161732050
>>161732054
Most of my factories use stuff that I produce domestically, I mostly just import dye and cotton. Is there a way to see if my factories buy the materials domestically or not?

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>>161731568
>colonial demographic policy is that all Japanese women must marry White American men or die single and Japanese men are castrated at birth
>Japan becomes a half-white nation by 1936

>>161732623
NOWAG Nation?

>>161732623
How do you mod that in? Or if not that, I remember the Albanians into fuel factory guy, I want a waifu commodity

>>161732042
>not spreading lizard seed across the West and committing genocide to populate the world with reptilians

disgusting

why does r&i make a new thread a random amount of posts early every single time?
i keep posting after he makes a new thread and get no replies, ree, at least by consistent

>>161731938
>set tariffs to 0
>most pops can't afford their daily needs
>set tariffs to 100%
>all pops can afford everyday needs and like 20% can afford luxury needs

how to create decision to increase religious conversion factors, or how to change religious conversion factors in general,
a 'deislamization' decision as you will

I want to play an ebin 'we wuz faraos n shieet' gommie egypt in NWO, but converting people from islam is hard even with people's republic.

>>161733358
>-10% tariffs
>no artisans can afford any life needs
>100% tariffs
>all artisans have luxury needs

>>161731784
>HELP
>E
>L
>P

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What's the difference between puppets and protectorates in Vic2? Is it the same when it comes to UnCivs?

>>161731784
pick the uninstall.exe idea group

>>161734125
eww weeb

>>161731954
Have you played Spain? It's exactly like that. You will have rebels and high militancy throughout the game, but because of your national idea you will never be able to pass reforms unless you allow yourself to be occupied.

>>161734239
congratulations!

>>161734239
Would you like to bribe a maid to spy on her, my liege?

>>161733836
>>161733358
Is this meme true? All my life I've played with 0% tariffs because muh free trade is good for the nation meme.

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>>161734239
break up with her now or accept pic related as your future
i'm sorry anon :(

>>161734239
atleast you are not this guy (http://imgur.com/gallery/hlOyr)

cut all contact with her. all you need is us.

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>>161732042

Oh god, even if you take land from the Tomb Kings you can't use it.

>>161734206
Literally not an argument

>>161734239
accept responsibility if it is actually yours

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'Would anybody like to play Victoria II or Kaiserreich (Darkest Hour) multiplayer with me and some friends on this fine weekend?'
Come join us, we have good MP

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>>161734915
>wanting a province's population culture to change to yours despite literally no one living on it

>>161735161
ip? sounds fun

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Lads why are bureaucrats so slow to promote? I have admin spending maxed out. Should I go for intellectuals first?

>>161735583
add me on steam, since we are not sure what to play yet.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198006607512/

>>161735161
I'd be up for victoria but I haven't played kaiserreich/darkest hour so i'd just get fucking raped.

>>161735626
>5% literacy
lol

>>161735528

It shouldn't be too hard, all my people have to do is purge all the Necron and move some of my own people in, right? Purging unkillable undead should be pretty easy... right?

>>161735161
only if:
>modded general command back to 3/6/9/12
>fixed not getting dissent bug when declaring war due to roman numbers

>>161735626
I'm no expert but the way I see it
>Literacy: 5.4%
Only 5% of the population can read. That's where you have to draw your bureaucrat pool from. What i usually do is across my empire improve the number of intellectuals/clergy to 2% per state, and THEN go for bureaucrats. Make sure everyone learns how to read first.

>>161736108
Yea that makes sense. I usually do bureaucrats first but I'm used to playing countries with higher starting literacy.

I'm Rome in CK2
should I go for elective monarchy?

>>161736364
I'm a social nationalist desu

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>There are people in /gsg/ RIGHT NOW that aren't unironic Kekists

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>>161736364
I am

>>161736364
I'm a anarcho-capitalist desu

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What should I give them? I'm tempted to have a comfy inclusive Ottoman Empire in which we're all friends. I always go the genocide route.

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>>161736364
A Judeo-Bolshevist homosexual capitalist banker and smoker was teaching a class on Karl Marx, known ethnic Jew.

"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Marx and accept that he was the most highly-evolved Übermensch that the world has ever known, even greater than Adolf Hitler."

At this moment, a brave, folkish, nationalist Waffen-SS member who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of non-Marxist socialism and hated the Jews for stabbing the Germans in the back stood up and held up a rock.

"How old is this rock?"

The arrogant banker smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied "4.6 billion years, you stupid Nazi."

"Correct. It's been 4.6 billion years since geothermic forces created it. The natural scientific model must be applied to the political sphere, and thus foreign elements must be removed so that the rock of Germany will be pure."

The banker was visibly shaken and dropped his copy of the Treaty of Versailles. He stormed out of the room crying those Jewish crocodile tears.

The students applauded and all registered NSDAP that day and accepted Hitler as their Fuhrer. An eagle named "Ahnenerbe" flew into the room and perched atop the Swastika Flag and shed a tear on the chalk board. Mein Kampf was read several times, and Wotan himself showed up and enacted Germanization across Eastern Europe.

>>161736545
kys soulless kike puppet

>>161736364
I'm a marxist-libertarian desu

>>161736696
>implying fishing companies don't exist

>>161736609
Don't give them anything yet, just lose to jacobins so you can eventually switch to fascism easily with HM

>>161736364

>being a socialist

Civic nationalist reporting in.

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Oh boy

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>>161736845
I gave them cultural rights because I am a benevolent t*rk but now they want me to open the borders. Fat chance dirty Bulgarians.

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>>161734823
Wew lad, that was fucking intense.

>>161737027
What the fuck is that lord of the rings bullshit on your forehead?

>>161736364
I'm a islamic socialist, desu

>>161737108
idk lad, I can't change it, looks like an enlarged ring, horrible though

Is HPM a national socialist?

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>>161737450
he's an Islamic gommunist

>>161736517
>worshipping Kuk
heh

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>ywn live in a state with:
>Excellent Safety Regulations
>Eight Hour Workday
>Good Healthcare
>Good Minimum Wage
>Good Pensions
>Generous Subsidies

thanks cuckservatives

ANY NEW STRATEGY GAMES IN MAKING?????? what paradox is doing ?

>>161737671
dlc for the goys

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>>161737671
why make new games when they can make DLC? The silly goyim buy all of it anyway

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>>161737658
perfect germany?

>>161737648
>>161736517

I am kek
ama

>>161737891
>he didnt even get r*peating d*g*ts

>>161737727
>>161737826
:D true , i know only this guy making cold war strategy game https://www.reddit.com/r/cwgamedev/

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>>161734125

Do I defend two sicilies as spanish clay here?
Italy is gonna keep wanting it though.

>>161738032
Annex Naples and every Med island, it's your duty

>>161738003
>:D
>linking to reddotto

Why don't you take a long walk of a short pier, boyo?

>>161737387

Wow, you sure showed me. Guess I better rethink my political ideology.

>>161738003
This post is literally rebbit but the game could be good

>>161738241
Do you really think negroes can be Germans lad?

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>>161738241
Top kek, I thought you were meming.
*Tips disunited population genetically predisposed to infighting*

>>161734437
It's not a meme.

>>161738373
WIR

>>161735626
>Should I go for intellectuals first?
Fuck no.

>>161738127

Woo!
I got two sicilies to win enough of the early battles to enforce the dismantling of fortifications in Lazio. Next time Italy fucks around, two sicilies won't even have to siege them hard and fight the additional enemy tactics there.

>>161738606
WAR

What are the ideologies in Gaiserreich?

>>161738003
>>161738282
It's cancer, lads.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cwgamedev/comments/4wqpkp/developer_update_internal_politics_part_1/
>Political Capital:
>The three types of Political Capital; Liberty, Equality, and Order, are resources your nation generates over time and then spends to perform major national and international actions.
>These points are each stockpiled in a respective national pool until used. More significant decisions will require incur larger point costs.
Each type of Political Capital corresponds to a different in-game Ideology axis, and has different uses within the game. A few actions allow a choice of which type of Political Capital to use.
>Liberty Capital may be used to lower Taxes, pass Political Reforms, propose Trade Agreements, etc.
Equality Capital may be used to pass Social Reforms, Nationalize or Regulate Industries, raise Tariffs, etc.
>Order Capital may be used to establish new military Units, ban a Political Party, revoke Reforms, etc.
>The construction of most Facilities and Buildings also uses a small amount of Political Capital (inversely scaled to nation size), and the response chosen to some Events can as well add or subtract Political Capital.
>A nation may take an action which reduces their Political Capital to below 0, but only when it is currently above 0.
>However, doing so incurs a penalty to government popularity.
>This Political Capital system acts to encourage strategic thinking by the player and semi-realistic national development, by limiting decision-implementing ability.

why is off smaller than on?

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>paying denbts intensifies

>>161738373

Why not? How many English, French, Polish, etc. have moved to Germany and integrated in to the country without problem? Do you discriminate against negroes just because of the color of their skin?

>>161738735
IT'S WAREN DU SCHWANZLUTSCHER GOTTVERDAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMTTTTTTT

>>161738976
How can one economy be so terrible?

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You guys are missing out on some prime MP right now.

>>161738934
But how is it generated?

>>161739026
>non english grammar
Why do other languages do this?

>>161739016
>How many English, French, Polish, etc. have moved to Germany and integrated in to the country without problem?
A tiny fraction of the current amount of non-white immigrants in Germany right now.

>Do you discriminate against negroes just because of the color of their skin?
No. Because of their shit genetics, just like all non-whites

>>161737546
>>161737637
>>161737734
>>161737857
>>161737959
>>161738102
>>161738261
>>161738298
>>161738446
>>161738608
>>161738704
>>161738906
>>161738931
>>161739061
>>161739132
>>161739210
But who will win

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>>161739056

This came from.. Wars in Latin America I think?
Or something like that.
>Brits took shanghai
>That's the region with silk+tea which my economy needs

FUCKING ANGLO.

>>161739180
>le genetics dictate how people behave and not social norms

Oh boy here we go again.

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These retinues are so delicious.

>>161739339
I wonder if I inherited the Alsace-Lorraine is french gene..

>>161739304
>planning on blobbing into china
End your cancerous existence, cheater.

>>161739180

It wasn't so long ago that Germans were considered barbarians.

>>161737671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWEMq0JiB0Y

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>>161737853
perfect Germany?

>>161739497
>so long ago
Are you implying this ever ended?

>>161739497
>were

>>161737853
Danes, Swedes and Norwegians are just Germans in disguise.

>>161738942
because the cancer is posting low quality images they got off google

>>161739451

???
It's not blobbing if its in 1900.
Its an extension of trade.
They have silk+Tea.
I want it
so it will be mine.
You can't sphere them, or negotiate deals for a % of tea/silk so thats how it plays out in victoria 2 engine.

>>161739748
I'm admiring their perseverance though

>>161739339
>genetics has no impact on outcomes
>negroes could run japan as efficiently as the japanese
>retards were just raised that way
>you can teach a plant calculus
>stop being bio-supremist, rocks can learn calculus too if they have the right environment

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>>161737853
>>161739524
Perfect Germany

>>161739923
kek, stealing this argument

>>161739508
This could be epic if the cults were full of Jews but we all know (((paradox))) won't do that because no balls.

>>161740016
kys

>>161739854
Just make sure your minister for Chinese affairs will be Chi Ting.

>>161740157
is what the germs should've been told

>>161740034
>>161740174
what happens if it gets stuck in the middle?

>>161740016
>the person who came up with this idea just so happened to be Jewish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_N._Kaufman
Really makes you think

>320 posts in
>last thread still at 721 posts

>>161739923
Yeah, and caucasians genetically evolved from being shit flinging savages to being the world hegemon in just a thousand of years, amirite?

Stop being a fucking retard.

>>161740326
Really makes me think

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The man
The legend
Turned back unionists
Brought Latin America to heel
gonna go find some chinks to penetrate now

>>161740337
>in just a thousand of years
No, 35 thousand years.

I've decided to try to get my first eu4 achievement, and going for better than napoleon. I'm currently in 1466, but I haven't really gotten any new clay yet, apart from retaking my cores and a couple of provinces in Aragon.

>>161740295
Hooton didn't seem to be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnest_Hooton#The_.22Hooton_Plan.22
Too bad, if they went with the jew's plan, the whole debacle would've ended decades ago

>>161740660
>autism
>in /gsg/
hahah what are you talking about?

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Germoney wants to ally with me.
But spanish generals are concerned that they are shit at warfare, and will end up getting gangbanged by france/A-H.

>>161739923
>this hs-tier understanding of genetics

epic, can you pinpoint me the h-bomb gene?

>>161740590
https://youtu.be/LU55Flooj3Y
Can't stress the Menéndez

>>161740621
>we wuz aryans n shit

>>161740621
But indo-europeans were on the same technological level just like every other african tribe out there while civilizations were springing up in the fertile crescent, in north africa and in asia.

>>161740814
Ally them you mong

>>161741132
The people by the Black sea were quite developed desu

>>161740660
If you scroll through the replies really fast it looks funny

If instead of Germoney, how about Perifidious Albion?
At least they have the military if they are going to broker peace deals.
>>161741159
They're weak, and susceptible to the french who have the 2nd best army, followed by the Waifu protectors in the east.
>>161740941
It's kinda silly how hard it is to get prestige for generals. I love this man though.

>>161740838
>Being intentionally obtuse
Genes aren't that specific but there are genes that effect intelligence, and a certain amount of intelligence is required to understand the concepts behind the h-bomb, put them together and develop it. Just the same, the development of civilizations on the whole requires many different cognitive traits and Western Europeans have proven themselves to be superior in this regard.

>>161741328
Then gas the French until they collapse

>>161741424

We only protect da mountains

>>161741338
You may have had a point but it ended with the bomb. It's not a good analogy because a prehistoric European wouldn't have any idea about that, either. It's the intelligence, plus generations of knowledge passed from one generation to the other that led to it.

>>161741338


This, and this is why it's generally accepted that the birthplace of human civilization lies on the fertile banks of the river Rhine.

>>161741338
Do you have any proof of certain genes guaranteeing intelligence and exceptionality in a population?

Not to mention the incredible technological advances the chinese had until the 1500s, so how can you say
>Western Europeans have proven themselves to be superior in this regard.
?

Under your "theory", they'd never have stagnated and would be exploring the galaxy by now..

>>161740979
>beat the roman """"legions"""" with a handful of rogue germanic supermen
Thule itself birthed Aryan warriors as a gift to tne earth.

>>161741132
>>161741697
To create civilization it requires urbanization, which requires food surpluses. It's easier to get to that stage from nothing around the Nile, the Near East and the Mediterranean than it is in colder environments. This is what let slightly dumber humans create the first civilizations, to the point where technology developed and spread enough for those further North in Europe to reach the "critical mass" and be able to urbanize themselves.


>>161741706
>Under your "theory", they'd never have stagnated and would be exploring the galaxy by now..
No because I'm not an ancap-tier reductionist. But genetics is a very large factor nontheless.

>>161741821
The downfall of MENA was islam which brought in incest and as a result more mental problems and retardation.

based jannies

>>161741821
>slightly dumber humans create the first civilizations
fucking epic

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Forever and ever

>>161741706
>Not to mention the incredible technological advances the chinese had until the 1500s,

This happened only because they were ruled by an elite germanic warrior caste. The moment the elite ruling caste started to inbreed with the natives, and thus ruining their genetic stock, the empires started to stagnate and collapse. The same thing happened to the roman, egyptian and the civilizations of the fertile crescent as well.

>>161742137
Likewise with the ancient Finnish Empire

>>161742137
>>161742243
lame memes

>>161742281
Nazi inspired pagans?

>>161741901
>not the mongols

Or are you one of those guys who refuse to admit that the middle east was more developed than europe?

>>161741706
not him, and there are obviously dogs and humans have huge differences when it comes to intelligence, however

>Do you have any proof of certain genes guaranteeing intelligence and exceptionality in a population

take a population of dogs. create 2 groups. in the first place intelligent and fast problem solving dogs. in the second place less intelligent and slow problem solving dogs.
countless of experiments have shown that the descendants of the first group will have a similar higher than average problem solving ability, while descendants of the second group will have a similar lower than average problem solving ability.

there is only one reasonable conclussion to this experiment.

>>161742356
that too

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>>161742468
Based

What treaty port to take? Been cucked from tea by Shanghai->Anglos and Taiwan to Nippon.
jIaxing for the silk?

>>161742616
Thank you Ulm

>>161741821
And yet the countries who have the highest IQ values today were nothing more than stagnating fuedal shitholes just two centuries ago. Really makes one think.

>>161742847
>stagnating fuedal shitholes

Kingly meme

>>161742847
>two
you misspelled five

>>161742847
Israel didn't exist two centuries ago.

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who should i play and what are my goals

>>161743345
Ontario, gas the french

>>161743345
What's the difference between all those start dates?
I'd go with Deseret desu

>>161743345

Holy Columbian Confederacy, conquer all the Confederate lands.

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>>161742498

>>161743516
>Holy
>Columbian
>Confederacy

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Good idea? Bad idea?

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>>161742468

god i fucking hate berbers.

>fucking everywhere
>will raid you no matter your relationship
>raid is instant, will happen the second a shore is not protected, can't even afford to rebase my fleet
>shithole with 4 development raided, lose 200/500 ducats
>cannot target their ships unless at war
>this will always happen as long as they have 1 ship
>EXTRA MEME POINTS: Perma-alliance with the Ottomemes

>>161743695
post liquor factories