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Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/
The Steam version launched on October 28th.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released at 29th December.

Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database / Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh

Friend list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DKn9RybTNTQ3a8cm-68KvDOHCFBRK8VDD2JVO8HTUWg/edit?usp=sharing
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

You can listen to both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://89.40.121.179/sv.html

Last thread: >>161652364
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remove mass removals
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POST VIALS
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Bahamut now Banishes the board, great card.
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Who's favoured between Tempo Elf and the Heal Haven variants
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Prove to me that you are not Forest or Haven cancer
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>>161673632
I literally only play Storm Haven :^)
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>Plays Dshift
>TOO MANY FUCKEN ELANA's
>Play banner meme
>vs shadowcraft decks only
What the fuck is up with the matchmaking? It seems like you can specific classes with certain classes HOLY SHTI
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I love my daughterwife Luna
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>>161673627
depends on the draws imo
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So, are they buffing regular Pluto?
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>>161673709
D-shift has a good matchup against Elana.
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>>161673586
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>>161673709
dshift literally exists just to counter heal seraph you fucking mong
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>Fight Dshift
>Gets to turn 9
>Prepared to lose
>Drops Harnessed Glass + evolve to clear board, doesn't have Harnessed Flame
>Win easily after
It was a good try.
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in the need, for a concede. 59867
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Is there any proof we are getting new leaders or are you guys jumping to conclusions again?
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>Faster servant
>Lets speed things up
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>>161673795
No it doesn't. You keep pinging the leader and they soon out heal the damage you dealt.
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>>161673852
Are you retarded?
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>mfw i waste all my gold on standard packs for cerberus even though i literally never ever get any shadow cards from them
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>>161673852
uhhhh
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>>161673789
No, this card summons Pluto but has a defense limitation. Old Pluto can still wipe out fatties.

Old Pluto is also fucking worthless in the current meta.
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>>161673789

No. It's a shittier Pluto and a shittier Deathbrand put together for flexibility.
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>>161673632
I hope you're not a Face Dragon.
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>>161673842

hehehe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKmZJ9m5Mk
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>>161673852
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>>161673632
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>turn 8
>tfw you drop thick cocked garuda on aria
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>>161673907
>got animated cerberus from free packs several days ago even though I don't play shadow
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>>161673632
r-right here bro
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>>161673852
How the fuck...are you expecting to kill him with Magic Missiles or something?
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>>161673852
this is the kind of absolute moron that plays runecraft
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>>161673941
and what are you playing
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>>161673632
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>>161673907
Had once pulled an animated cereberus and non animated in the next pack. Liquefied them both down to make tempo elf and storm haven.
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>>161673852
I hope for your sake you are baiting.
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>>161673852
Dshitters are literally less human than elananiggers.
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>>161673842
U-Unica ganbarimasu!
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>>161673852
what
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I want to ragefuck that little piece of shit rabbit healer slut
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>>161673907
>buying packs
>not playing t2
I came here to laugh at you.
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>>161673832
Please help. Help!
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Shitty or not, I regret liquefying my animated pluto at the start.
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>set up spellboosts perfectly

>take tons of face damage for it, down to 6 hp

>Play dimension shift

>Opponent concedes

It's not fucking fair, I took all that face damage just for you to surrender? NO! LET ME HAVE SOME FUN TOO
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>>161674213
>1/30
>2/20
hmm
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>>161673941

Had to make face dragon or I was going to kill myself. Any other dragon in AA1 just doesn't cut it.
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>>161673632
About that....
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>>161674213
>Cute unicorn loli
>Bara furry
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>>161673852
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>>161674249
>>161673832
Thanks morde-friend!
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>>161673632
B-but, its so easy to climb with them.
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>>161674213

TAKE MY BLADE OF RESENTMENT
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>>161674317
>LET ME HAVE SOME FUN
I assure you, your opponent did not have fun while you were playing solitaire.
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>>161674213
Hey, where the fuck is my cute baguette eating horned horse?
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>Playing a mirror match and your opponent is going second
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>>161673632
Hate me. Loathe me.
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How to balance this game

Roach is now 0/1
Elana doesn't trigger at full HP anymore
Garuda doesn't trigger without reducing countdown anymore
Otohime's guards are now 1/1 OR Sage Commander is now 3/4

Cygames pls hire me already
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>>161674427
This bird has nice thighs
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>>161674573
>It's an aggro blood mirror
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>>161673852
>This explains everything about Witch's <50% winrates. But here's your (You)
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>>161674492
don't be a faggot
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>>161674490
AWAY FROM HERE INTRUDER
YOU WILL NEVER GET NEAR THE PRINCESS
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>>161674573
>playing a mirror match and u draw 3 pinion prayers
easy win desu
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>>161673420
Wind God is surprisingly a very good card in forest. imagine playing it with a full board of fairies, and you should get an idea of why it's useful
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>>161674375
>shadow
>2

Not sugoi, sugoi at all.
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>>161674591
t. Forest main
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>>161674591
This is surprisingly reasonable.
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>>161674591
>Elana doesn't trigger at full HP anymore
>literally have to do nothing so he doesn't get his overbuffed minions
>if you start pushing face you'll just get themised and then he'll get his overbuffed minions
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>>161674639
who are you quoting
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>>161674664
Really fired up the ol' noggin.
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>>161674573
>It's a Seraph mirror
>>161674591
These are actually some of the best balance suggestions I've heard in these threads. Good job anon. You forgot Aria getting +1 countdown though.
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>>161674627

>you win because you know when to trade his board or go face

Feels great
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>>161674680
Would be better if its Pinion prayer, Beastcall, and hallowed dogma. Had that hand a few times in the opening, feels so good.
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>>161674591
>Roach is now 0/1
Barely matters
>Elana doesn't trigger at full HP anymore
Seraph-Elana still cancer
>Garuda doesn't trigger without reducing countdown anymore
Fair
>Otohime's guards are now 1/1 OR Sage Commander is now 3/4
lol
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>>161674169
Ramp
>>161674343
I'm A2 with Ramp now. Climbing speed past A0 has dropped, but I hope my Deck stays playable after reaching AA. I just believe Face Dragon is way too brainless.
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>>161674640
Don't play dshift
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>>161674317
>Conceding is orgasm denial for players that sit there masturbating for 8 turns
On one hand, this is great. On the other, watching them try to bluff with emote spam then concede when they can't get it up is even better.
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>>161674591
I'd also knock Ancient Elf down one defence to a 2/2 base myself but I agree with everything you posted.
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>>161674682
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What if you can evolve amulets so the followers will drop evolved too? Imagiine evolved arias
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>>161674591
Don't know about the Otohime change.

Elana should be either +1/+0 or +0/+1 not fucking both, not to mention most heal cards have extra beneficial draw extra card effects because why the fuck not

Agree with the rest.
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>>161674852
>ramp
>not ptp flute
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>>161674696
Sorry Luna but I've barely opened any good Shadow cards and I don't even like the class so I have no desire to make them.
I've opened all the memes like 3 tyrants, 3 haunts, and 4 Atomys though.
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>>161674870
i'll stop playing dshift when you stop being a faggot
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>>161674973
YAMERO
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>>161674973
What if i fucked your waifu?
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>>161674982
Otohime definitely needs a change considering Midrange Sword is just as strong as every other deck people complain about and has actually been around longer than PtP.
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>>161674798
fuck you angel-slut.
You let filthy old men have their way with you
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>>161674591
otohime is fine, the game is getting more removals as it is
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>>161675114
>Making Otohime a worse Queen Vampire
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>Bahamut 10 PP 13/13 15/15 Neutral
>Fanfare: Destroy all other followers and amulets. If your opponent has two or more followers, this follower cannot attack the enemy leader
Is your body ready my dirtrune bros?
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>>161674798
Glory be!
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>/svg/ fantasizing about nerfpocalypses again when last expansion we got a grand total of one (1) nerf
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This rage empowers me!
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>>161675112
>waifu
>in 2016
sorry, I don't want to be cucked anymore
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>>161675202
The top end of my deck is just fucking stuffed with meme wincons ranging from Erasmus to Lucifer to Olivia to Satan and now Bahamut get to join the party.
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>>161675212
They're probably newfags from the Steam release. They don't know that Cygames has barely nerfed anything outside of beta and the nerfs they've enacted have been very gentle and barely touched PtP anyway.
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What if Otohime's guards were 0/3 with ward
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I started 20 days ago in shadowverse, it's a good amount of legendaries and golds or I should try to reroll to get a better start?I only liquefied a wyrm spire and crafted 2 roachs, 2 vanias and 1 elf girl liza.
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>>161674982
>>161674836
>>161675167
>>161675179


>Every nerf is ok
>Except that sword nerf
>t, sword main
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>>161675363
sword is a balanced craft, balance the others around it, don't bring it down to the shittiness of others
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>>161675202
I won't play dirt in T2 and this guy won't see much play in ranked unless he gets some major support and the meta shifts.
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>>161675212
pleasssssssseeeee
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>>161675212
They should at least try and bring other classes to the same level instead of nerfing existing cards imo.
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My fishies are going to dance in Otohime's womb.
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>win 1 match as forestcraft
I have one ptp, can I do it
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>>161674989
Might try it out in the future.
I just hope Dragon gets a good card draw next expansion. Replacing one of my 2 Fafnirs with Bahamut might be cool too.
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>>161675404
>Sword is a balanced craft
>Has a higher winrate than Haven which people complain about constantly
>Has been tier 1 since the game was released
>Has been a mainstay/tournament winner forever
Yeah.
Sure.
"Balanced"
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>>161675410
>i won't play dirt in T2
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>>161675361

>no garuda

reroll
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>>161675604
consider reading farther than the first comma
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>>161675361
>3 FUCKING ancient elves already and a Tia
>2 Cynthias
Don't even think about rerolling. You're ready for the cancer
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>>161675202
Why would you play a card which nukes your golem wall?
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>>161675604
>Ryu is sooooo op guys
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>>161675404
>Sword is a balanced craft
>Every (all) sword decks have 61 (Sixty one) % (percent) winrate going 2nd (second)
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>>161675361
Why would you do it there a lot of goodgolds and legos and you can do the strongest decks of the game
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>>161675361
You have 18 legendaries. Rerolling will set you back far too much.

Just stick with what you got.
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>>161675363
I don't even play sword. I just never had much problems with killing Otohime guards because at that point the vast majority of followers are above 2 attack anyway unless you are an elfshitter. If so, get fucked fairy scum, aren't you supposed to bounce roach about 10 times at that point already?
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>>161675807
>>161675657
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>>161675657
Sword isn't balanced anon. Sword is overpowered. Every other card they have is ridiculously overstatted.
While I agree they shouldn't go on a nerf spree and should try to buff up classes instead gently nerfing Sword a bit would be best for everyone.
>>161675793
If Ryu were S tier and had one of the highest winrates in the game and was the biggest offender of the going first./going second discrepancy then yes, he would be overpowered.
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No one expects the turn 6 pyroblast
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>>161675361
I've been playing for a fucking month and I still only have 13 legos.
Reroll because I'm jelly and I hate you.
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>>161674852
can you post your ramp dragon list?
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With the bonus packs it seems like a good time to reroll.
Overall, what should I be looking out for in terms of cards to get?
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>>161675472
whoa dude
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>>161675361
What the hell you complain?
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>>161675202
>Playing a card that kills all of your Earth Runes
>Playing a card that blows up your golem wall
>Playing a card that gives Haven a free zoo

What did he mean by this?
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Leave Sea Queen Otohime to me
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is turn 8 the most intense turn?
all the PtP, Seraph and D-Shift roll around about that time, give or take 1 turn for PtP
>it's a mirror seraph episode and you are going second
>but the opponent only has 2 cards
>https://youtu.be/nvRkrKWKZPw starts playing
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>>161675964
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>>161676039
Turn 4 is the most intense, game-defining turn thanks to the ridiculous evolve cards.
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>>161675929
The winrates are because it's easy to win with and because other classes have been bad
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>>161675319
I dropped the satan in dirtrune but im gonna use bahamut, i think its a much better card
I'll run 1 Lucifer, 1 Erasmus, 1 olivia and 1 Bahamut as my late game threats

>>161675410
He's gonna be a strong card in a lot of control decks

>>161675789
Because you're not always gonna have your golem wall up?
Because its a huge tempo swing that threatens 13 damage to face?
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Clash: Drain Bloodcraft follower when?
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>>161676106
turn 4 is nothing, you can clean up the evolved shitters with spells or an evo of your own
losing 2 followers is not the same as losing the game, especially in the themis/wotf meta
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>>161676128
Why are Swordfags so fucking delusional?
At least Forestfags admit their class is broken.
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>going second gives you: first evolution, +1 evolution, +1 card draw
>absolutely nothing if you go first

How is this balanced
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>>161675929
Sword cards are overstatted compared to other classes because other classes all get a gimmick to compensate
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>>161675929
I don't see why Otohime gets the most slack though.
Aurelia is strong as fuck, Floral fencer can decide whether you win or lose a game.
Alexander is a killing machine.
All those drop 1 get 2 followers that get out of control.
Commanders/Officers that give said followers +10000 damage per turn
Alwida is retarded instant damage+protection.

Honestly, changing them to 1/1 wont make that much of a difference. Elf is already strong as fuck so they can suffer a bit. Bats would still go to face because if they haven't won by that point they probably won't anyway. Agrro shadow is the same with ghosts and control has Tempest.
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>>161676037
Oh damn, I knew that was a great card already, but I didn't see the "then" part to it. I originally thought it was 3damage OR 2damage to all with the increases cost.

Yeah, that card is great. Super flexible and it'll fucking wreck swarming shit.
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>>161676271
Nothing I said ws wrong and you still haven't said why it's broken
>At least Forestfags admit their class is broken
Hilarious
You obviously haven't been here very long
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>>161675361
>Showing off your cards and feigning ignorance on the subject of rerolling

Here's a (You) :^)

You better not reroll. Those are already good cards you have there, anon. Craft two more Tias and you're set to make the cancer deck that is Forestcraft.
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>>161676316
You'll get earlier Enhance soon
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>>161676316
Board control and mana advantage
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>>161676421
>Honestly, changing them to 1/1 wont make that much of a difference.
lol? 1def is the difference between having to work for a removal and being able to barrage them all for 3 points
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>mfw getting free coins for cheesing the elite bots with seraph
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>>161675984
It's a little modified version of that one on game ai with Olivia. (Removed the Goblin mounts and added angel barrages, more Siegfrieds etc to handle early agression)
It absoutely crushes Control Warrior, the other match ups are dependant on whether you draw aiela early. Just Haven is a bit painful if they banish all your aielas, but certainly winnable.
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>>161676316
I agree that going second is better especially because of 4cost swing cards, but going first confers you both the tempo advantage and mana advantage. We need more cards like mushussu, fearless banneret, MSD, etc that activate upon an evolution to help counter turn 4 evolves. Remember the winrates for going 2nd were worse than going 1st before they added the extra card draw
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>>161676538
I still have to beat the AI in practice mode
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>>161676316
Did you know, anon, that in a time long long ago, going first was so favored that they both increased the hand size AND let player 2 draw 2 cards instead of one, and going first was still favored? Such is the power of the tempo/mana advantage.
>>161676376
Is that gimmick not being as good as Sword unless you're Forest?
>>161676461
Here's why Sword is broken:
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/47/0/2
And Midrange Sword has had that ~55% winrate since the game fucking came out. Before DE PtP was Midrange Sword's single bad match-up. Midrange Sword is bullshit.
And I've been playing since the English release, thanks.
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>>161676527
Then people would complain that it's useless because "muh 6pp card is countered by a 3pp card". See Queen Vampire. You just can't win this.
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>>161673852
>When a havenshitter tries out DShift
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>>161676316

It's balanced by going first. Before the expansion going first was better but the new cards changed it. If the new expansion doesn't fix that then they should remove the 2 card draw.
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>>161676686
that sucks but at least the bats have ward
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>>161676659
>Easy class has high winrates
Holy shit we've got Einstein over here fellas
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>absolutely destroyed an A1 Dragoncraft Adept playing Midrange

Feels like shit
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>>161675114
>let's kick a deck down just because it's good
Shut the fuck up, the longer the game goes on the more boardwipes everything will get until the point where she's going to be mandatory for sword to even try and survive.
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>>161676421
>Alexander is a killing machine.
He's 8 mana and weaker than decree
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>>161676686
And Queen Vampire is ass, this is nothing new.
How about making bad cards good instead of whining that Otohime molested you?
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>>161676659
It's not surprising honestly.
Sword is the most braindead vanilla "just drop a lot of shit" class there is. Kinda hard to fuck that up and make it bad.
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Why is Bloodcraft in this game?
It's the worst leader by far.
Vania is cute though
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>>161676659
>Did you know, anon, that in a time long long ago, going first was so favored that they both increased the hand size AND let player 2 draw 2 cards instead of one, and going first was still favored? Such is the power of the tempo/mana advantage.

Not that anon, but having started with the Steam release, I've been a bit curious as to how much of an advantage going first had as a player for the game before the changes to the evolutions. Would you happen to know what the winrates were between first and second before they made the changes?
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>>161676904
Why are you attacking me though? I'm on your fucking side.
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Sword is OP!!!!

That's why it was so successful in masters last month. It almost caught up to dragon!
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>>161676958
I want to fuck an anime
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>>161676271
this, everyone accepts that forest has some broke ass shit, but when anyone starts talking about sword all the sword mains jump in and start talking about how otohime is "balanced" and aurelia is "fair" and floral "its okay because everyone has a op 4 drop"

seriously fuck off, you are worse than forest + haven players combined
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Vampy is a bad older sister.

How's rerolling in this game? I meant to start when the game came out but forgot.
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>>161676979
People that went first won about 60% of the time.
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>>161677037
>Vampire
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>>161677153
easier than in most but you'll need an emulator or at least a phone
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>>161677141
None of those are even that good though
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You know when swordcraft summons leonidas, should I kill him straight away? I lose most games when I do kill him since, his deathrattle leaves all followers with 3/3 and rush
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>>161677037
>when faggots on /svg/ tell me dragon is bad
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>>161677242
use your brain and figure it out, then
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>>161677141
Otohime is literally just a bunch of bodies, if Otohime is even a threat you were probably losing that game no matter what they dropped.
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>>161677190
So it was a 20% difference between first and second? Good grief.
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>>161677037
>Bishop, Witch, Vampire are favored going first
>Dragon within 1%
explain this, crybabies
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>>161677037
>those shadow usage and winrate numbers
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>>161676913
That's not how balance works.
The skill level of a deck is irrelevant. If you look in the higher ranks, Sword has disgustingly high winrates, on par with Haven and Forest. Everyone admits those two classes are broken. So how is Swordcraft, which performs just as well as them, if not better, not broken?
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>>161677242
drop some weak guard and try to kill face or Odynd Leonidas
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>get T2 ticket from daily bonus
>pick Shadow
>carried to 5-0 by a deck with 2 Lord of the Flies plus two cards to get it back in hand/field after it died
>even beat the first ever guy I've seen with the Shadowverse Rex flair and playing Sword for the final win

Fuck yeah
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>you can now heal yourself above 20 health
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>>161677037
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW
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>take two
>average
>swordcraft mirrors every match
>win every game going second
>lose every game going first
>end up 3-2
This is fine, actually.
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>>161677303
It's not even all Face Dragon either. Shitters just don't know how to play Dragon or know what makes it good besides Forte.
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>>161677326
It's really hard to judge you fuck wit, sword run low cost followers, if you dont kill leonaidas you leave a 7/8 on the field which can be 9/10
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>>161677303
>>161677390
Dragon has highest numbers of wins in ranked at the moment, just fyi but maybe it's just because the guy who plays it, plays it 24/7 I dunno.
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>>161677242
He's a turn 9 summon, kill your enemy faster than that or have a plan for the late game where you can close it out as soon as trouble arrives (such as Odin). Leonidas is a pretty strong win condition if you let them get away with a big fat fatty drop on turn 9 that doesn't attack board (without evolve).
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>>161677303
People who think Dragon sucks are stupid. It's the 4th best class in the game and isn't that far behind the top three.
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>>161677037
>Ten%
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>>161677420
>The skill level of a deck is irrelevant
Except it is relevant because the easier decks are obviously going to have more people playing and winning with them. Haven doesn't have similar winrates only because it was trash before DE.
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>Play in the monrning
>Aggro Shadow
>Aggro Blood
>Bannermeme
>Face Dragon

>Play in the evening
>Control Sword
>Elena Haven
>Seraph Haven
>PTP Elf

I'm in the same timezone as Japan
What does this mean
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>>161677534

I'm AA0 and I haven't seen a single dragon that's not face probably since A2.
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>>161677630
adults have jobs
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>>161677630

means control players have a successful job for very obvious reasons
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>>161677630
People are back from work/school.
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>>161676958
>It's the worst leader by far.
thats not shadow
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Take two mvp
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>>161677630
It means you're an Australian cunt
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>>161677758
You're right, it's not shadow
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>>161677729
They like to use the most dirty OP decks to stomp out the competition?
Seems about right.
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>>161677037
Is that why it has the highest winrate in Master's now, being 3% above forest and haven?
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/47/4/
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>>161677709
I've seen more ramp dragons than face dragons up there for some reason to be honest.
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How do I link Shadowverse with another service?
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>>161677729
>ptp
>seraph
>control
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>When you win by playing 3 Demonic Strikes, 3 Razor Claws and a Dance of Death
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>>161677804
Yeah no that would be Cursed General.
She's just the one who does the dirty work.
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>>161677915

you link it to another service
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>>161677976
seraph is control
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>>161677910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sample_size_determination
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>>161677915
download on mobile, link PC with mobile, link mobile with google play/facebook
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I thought Aggro would be everywhere, but I'm only getting memed by Heal Haven in B3

Why is this
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>>161677910
>Now
For real nigga
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>>161678073
So you're telling me over 2000 games isn't a good enough sample size?
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>>161677915
Through phone with Google play account
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>>161678056
I too, enjoy playing control Runecraft with Dshift.
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>>161677709
I see Ramp/Storm Dragon in AA2 sometimes. It's less common than Face of course. It feels like people have just started using it more because of less banner and bat decks so they actually have time to ramp now. There's been more PtP recently which I guess is another reason to use it.
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>>161678161
Yes, and?
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>>161677559
Who's that guy and does he stream?
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>>161678146
No balance changes have been made and yet you're intentionally using a smaller sample when a larger one is avaliable simply because it supports your argument
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>>161677153
dont roll for anything specific unless you enjoy being cucked unmercifully, and dont accept anything less than 4 legendaries
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>>161678146
Compared to the previous data, yeah
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Is there anyone more pathetic then people who try and insist Sword is balanced?
How do you just ignore reality that hard?
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>>161677627
No it is irrelevant. You are never going to hear wizards go " infect has an over 30% meta share and over 58% win rate but because it is easy to play we will not ban a card from it"

Ease of play is not something one needs to take into consideration when deciding balance changes.
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>>161677976
Seraph is control or at least Combo/control
The aim is to hold the board all game, which is the definition of control
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I want a deck with spooky plants!
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which for t2?
blood, rune, haven
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>>161678226
Dunno. The guy on top.
He isn't first now with Sword and Bats having 170 wins each but he was at the top at the end of last month above everyone.
I forgot wins reset.
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>>161678380
Don't bother, these are the same anons who say D-Shift isn't control.
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>>161678327
>It's irrelevant because I say it is!
Alright dude whatever, you win
Just keep shaking your cane at sword or whatever it is you do
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>>161678450
Blood loses.
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Isabelle doujin when?
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/force-cygames-inc-change-awful-art-lily-and-possibly-fire-artist
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>>161678320
>otohime is easy to clear
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>>161678450
Rune and build a wall
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>>161678123
Elana's cheap as shit and decent

It's probably the most popular deck in the game
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>>161677915
press the account link option

you have to do it on a phone or with an emulator
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>>161678560
NANO
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>>161678560
what the fuck
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>>161678476
Well dshift loses hard to aggro

That's a failure as a control deck in the HS archetype of a TCG
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>>161678484
Out of all the defenses I've heard for why Sword is balanced, I have to say "it's easy to use" is the worst one.
Anon, it doesn't fucking matter. If a deck is easy to use but sucks, then it'll have a bad winrate. If a deck is easy to use, but average, it'll have an around 50% winrate. If a deck is easy to use and broken, then it'll have a very high winrate, like Midrange Sword does.
Skill level of a deck has no bearing on balance nor on winrates. It may affect a person's own winrate with the deck, but when the sample size is massive the amount of skill it takes doesn't really matter, especially when those winrates come from top ranked players.
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>>161678560
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>>161677976
>>161678056
>>161678380
>>161678219
There's something really autistic about watching people splitting hairs every day over definitions that come from a game with completely different mechanics and for that reason probably don't adjust well to the realities of this game.

Call them whatever the fuck you want but decks like control sword and earth rune are obviously very different from Seraph and Dshift. They are not the fucking same.
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>>161678123
Losing to aggro isn't bad because it's short and quick. Almost beating an elanafag only to have them heal back while elana sucks all their followers dicks is extremely triggering (yourself a prime example). In the end you feel like you've wasted half an hour of your time (you have). Also why Dshift triggers so many people despite neither decks being that "strong" in the meta
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>>161678484
I'm not the one complaining about sword. I'm just saying ease of play should not be considered when balancing the game or any game
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>>161678560
>petition to the white house
>for a nip game
>1 signiture
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>>161678802
Controle Sword is just a midrange deck with an extra splash of removal.
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>>161678560
>.gov petition
>foreign policy

As if japan will bend the knee to the US lmao
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>>161678560
Why are these guys so racist against nips and gooks? Just another movement of white wash to replace all cat girls with beefy white males...
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>>161678884
>As if japan will bend the knee to the US lmao
japan is literally the us' bitch
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>>161678560
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>>161678560
I think it's cute. Wish they used this version though.
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Requesting a concede at room 91132. Let me know if you need a concede as well via "one more battle" message.
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>>161678884
japan loves the us retard
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>>161678560
kek what?

>99,999 more needed
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>>161678932
we are gonna drop a 3rd nuke

>yfw anime starts ww3

BEST TIMELINE
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>>161678560
>Signed 1
>Linking to a booru
He can't be serious, right? Please let him be serious.
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>>161678884
Its censors the lewd girly skin
or else it gets the bomb again.
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My suggestion to buff shadow:

>playful necromancer now a 3/4
>on evolve gain +1/+1, summon a skeleton and a zombie

Now shadow has better board presence, better synergy with shadow generation and better flavor (why would a necromancer summon ghosts?)

Thoughts?
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>>161678560
>>
>>161678943

SEE THROUGH
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>>161678560

>Created by B.F. on December 02, 2016

You are not fooling anyone
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Is that tournament still happening tonight?
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>>161678943
Too opaque.
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>>161678585
If you combine pure Elana and Seraph-Elana they are the 5th most popular, below midrange sword, dshift, storm haven and ptp forest.
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>>161678560
>posting a link with lolies in a government site.

Absolute madman. The party van is on it's way.
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>>161679083
>why would a necromancer summon ghosts?

holy SHIT anon never look at luna ever again
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>>161679083
wait a minute... that effect...
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>when the exact draw cycle you needed happens
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>>161679083
I understood that reference
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>>161679109
That challonge link is down. I was looking for it earlier, I signed up but it turns out I won't be around tonight.
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>>161679083
looks fine, unironically im okay with this
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>>161678872
>Banner Sword is just a midrange deck with an extra splash of storm followers
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>>161679186
are you stupid or something
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>>161678952
Thanks freedom bird.
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>>161679312
except that that is not true
what i said is
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Vampy has the best feet!
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Concede please !

28770
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>>161679083
Pretty good, but I think Shadow needs some other cards as well to really make them good
>6pp Undead Commander
>4/6 that gives +1/+1 to all followers
That way your new Playful becomes a lot more threatening
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>>161679109
No
The challonge tournament was taken down
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>>161679301

>That challonge link is down

Shit you are right. What happened?
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>>161679301
>>161679426
What happened?
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>>161679083
It needs a 6PP legendary that can flood the whole board
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>>161674798
Glory be!
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>>161679083
Hmm, seems awfully familiar.
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>>161679514
>>161679551
Guessing the organizer gave up on it for whatever reason?
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>>161679301
I thought that i was kicked from it
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>>161679586
>>161679423

That would be too OP anons :^)
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>>161679624
>>
>tfw 2 tsubakis, 1 otohime, 1 saber, 2 alexanders, 2 animated olivias, 2 animated leonidas
Should I do it
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>when a runecrafter is forced to drop their flame-destroyers a turn too early into waiting death, and then spends 3-dimension shifts right after in one go just to draw cards and field a clay golem on the field
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>>161678560

What's wrong with lily's art? she's a cutie
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>>161679762
yes, liquefy them all
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>>161679762
yeah no one uses olivia anyway
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>>161679624
Thats a shame. I was gonna do it but get off work at 10:00 pm est. 2nd shift and all that.
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>>161679423
Needs some synergy with other cards
I think a 6PP Crypt King Saigoji 3/4 fill your board with 1/2 skeletons would be a nice card.
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>>161679083
My suggestion to buff shadow:

>Necropolis Queen is now a 3/4
>floods the board with Skullcradle Widows

Now shadow has better board presence, better synergy with shadow generation and better flavor (She's a Queen so she summons her servants)

Thoughts?
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Save for next expansion or attempt to make tempo forest + elana/storm, I don't mind spending crystals...
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>wake up
>new expansion isn't released
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>>161679423
yeah that looks pretty good, but shadow is also missing a non conditional 6 drop

>6pp Necromancer queen
>3/4 Fanfare: summon 1/2 Spooky Skeletons untl your board is full

now you can generate shadows for your necromancy stuff and has great synergy with undead commander
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>>161679762
NO GIVE THEM TO ME! I NEED THEM!!
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>>161679083

FEAR AND MIGHT TOGETHER
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fuck me dudes
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Elf players are untrustworthy
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>>161678943
>back is translucent
>front is opaque
What black devilry is this?
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>>161679919
>>161679968
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>>161680064
>wake up
>realize I main bloodcraft
>go back to bed
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>>161680110
jesus
i would say left
but shit sucks, man
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>>161680110
front lines will actually do something, rouges creed does nothing
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>>161679818
>>161679883
>>161680089
I was asking if I should go for the control sword meme ya cunts, do I also need 2 of otohime and saber
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I saw someone with the alt sword today. who would do this desu
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Man watching the anime this game is based on is such a let-down

It had great art but was bogged down by the shit story and even shittier characters
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>>161680261
2 Otohime, 3 Saber
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Should I
>evolve the mushuu, swing for four, then clear merlin with Irondale
>evolve ironbark, kill merlin, swing for four
>Demonic strike merlin then swing for 2
>demonic strike directly and don't attack
>demonic and trade mushuu for merlin
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>>161680261
Fat angel Olivia
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>>161680345
>great art
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>>161680110
Right, don't be retarded
Both the followers and amulets are better on the right.
Although truthfully your best bet is to never draw, or at least play the amulets.
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I can't believe you all are disappointed in this card. It's a 10 mana board clear (like themis's decree but neutral) with Satan Servant stats. Even if the enemy has 2+ followers, with those stats, it should have no trouble killing them until they're gone and then go face for 70% of their hp IF they're at full health Jesus Christ. I'd say Bahamut lived up to the hype!
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>>161680396
First?
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>>161680118
There is no elf bullshit happening at all
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>>161680345
>and even shittier characters
Absolutely shit taste. RoB was easily one of the best anime of 2014.
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>>161680396
1st.
Demonic strike will always deal 3 damage. But followers will have a higher chance as the game goes on of being removed.
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>>161680345
your shit opinion is not wanted here.
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>>161680501
>10 mana do nothing and fill the board with tigers
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>>161680501
doesn't matter when enemy haven has full board of amulets
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>>161680501
I can't wait for turbo ramp greed dragon that runs Bahamut, Satan and Olivia.
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>>161680501
>satan and zeus had to sacrifice their lives to seal him
>satan's servant is as strong as him
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>>161680501
It's just another control card that auto-loses against combo (if you even get to turn 10), meh
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>>161680261
DO IT IN MY STEAD, CUNT

I've never playe CS for obvious reasons but soon they'll be mine, rng can't screw me over for months on long
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>>161680578
>Muh outlaw with a heart of gold
>Muh redemption autism knight
>Good characters
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>>161680396
first ask yourself what kind of idiot made your deck
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>>161680501
>Can't attack the leader yet it doesn't have rush
It's shit.
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>>161680703
This.
Shoul've just made him a 20/20 and be done with it desu.
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>>161680501
Should be untargetable by spells desu
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>>161680614
>clear board
>nothing
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>>161680718
>muh deep characters in girl cartoon
Silly weeb poster.
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>>161680718
Does Favaro is not the inverse of this shit?
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>>161680860
>implying the board is clear
>implying you didn't just pop aria, seraph and pinion
>can't even attack because lol 2 followers
>clear

Never thought Bahamut would be scared of 2 faeries or bats.
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>>161680064
How did Cag look like before turning himself into loli
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>tfw running Aggro Dragon with Seabrands instead of Fortes
>I actually discarded my first one
memes
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>>161680718
Did you also dislike Pirates of the Caribbean because Jack Sparrow wasn't a DEEEEP character you boring hipster
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>>161680785
>wants a card with fanfare destroy the board to have rush

anon you are perhaps completely retarded
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>>161680578
They are absolutely unlikable.
I've dropped the show just because of them.
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>>161681008
>scared
Its more like he wants to kill all the little annoyances first and you cant tell him not to
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>>161680785
>board clear
>needs rush
?????
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>>161681016
Like a shota because he switched bodies at like 13 years old
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>>161681124
Jack is likable. Favaro is an annoying piece of shit.
And that retarded knight who just shouts Favaro like he just came into his asshole isn't any better
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>>161681008
Oh yes, I forgot that the ladder is currently, and in the future, filled with 100% haven decks and that as soon as turn 10 hits it automatically plays itself without your interaction.

I must be a fucking idiot.
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>>161680345
>Man watching the anime this game is based on is such a let-down
You got that wrong, this is based on RoB the cardgame, the anime came way after the fact and is basically it's own thing besides sharing names. Most events in the game had better plot than the anime, why they decided to go full OG despite having access to a mountain of material I'll never get.
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>Bahamut now randomly chooses a target to attack at the beginning of each player's turn
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>>161681137
>>161681151
>board clear
>Havencraft amulets have Last Word

Good design.
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>>161681124
Pirates isn't that good and the sequels are awful
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Feels good.
Deathchaser mvp with 9 shadows at least
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>>161681148
Careful, you're one step away of having the word "random" written on it.
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>>161681137
>>161681151
t. retards who never played haven or shadow.
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>>161680578
Bruh, if they ever get made into cards I don't care how good they are, I'm melting them.
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>>161681416
>shadow
Yes, those terrifying 1/1 skeletons are a menace and must be stopped.
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>>161681259
TETSUOOOOOO
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>>161681443
>Hehehe, I'll shoot myself in the head, that'll show those losers
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tfw you lose a 2+ turn game because opponent topdecks perfectly 4 turns in a row
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What's with all these control swords out of nowhere?
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>>161680501
He's worthless, he's only really good for free vials as is, should have banished everything if they wanted him to be playable, also no retarded can't go face if they have dudes clause.
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>>161681259
>>161681142
>>161681443
Goddamn now I really want them to be made into a card just to trigger you
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>>161681519
20+*
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>the Dshift mirror
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>>161681503
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>>161681587
Control Sword is a very anti-meta deck
It shit on all aggro, it shits on non-ptp Forest, it shits on all other Sword decks, it even beats non-Seraph Haven.
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>>161681503
I mean, they are when you have Bahamut considering he HAS to attack them first meaning you can just stall out the 13/13 while you get in for chip damage every turn.
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>>161681639
I don't care about a card.
The show is shit and it has nothing to do with what the card will do.
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>>161681639
>Unironically using 'triggered'
You have to go back
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>>161681587
What's your rank?

All I've been seeing these past couple of days have been Earthrite memers
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>>161681692
It's just like I'm playing Magic!
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>>161680501
>how to completely fuck up our flagship character in one easy movejpg
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>>161681326
so basically you want a neutral card to have rush to counter 1 class

you do realise how dumb that sounds right?
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>>161681780
I'm A0
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>>161681780
>earthmemers

Not him but I've been seing this a lot too. That and swords with wind gods.
I'm A1
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>>161681810
I wonder when Shadowverse will get its Trample mechanic. Feels like all card games have them, except Vanguard.

>>161681843
I'm not the guy talking about whether or not it should have Rush, I'm just saying you're dumb for saying "haha 2 dumb skeletons can't stop me" when in reality yes, yes they can stop you.
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>>161681753
But I was using it ironically
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>>161681514
>free vials
>shooting myself in the head
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>>161681851
>>161681879
I'm A2 myself, seems I just got lucky

fuck Erika she's almost as bad as Eris
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Why is Rune so anifun

Other games have made spell only decks fun
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what's the shittiest card in game
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>Get to A1
>Haven and forest everywhere
>It has been the same shit since B0
>The same meta decks

I'm stopping. Ranks are meaningless.
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>>161681896
Hearthstone also doesn't have trample
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>let's search otohime on google
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>>161682012
Priest in HS is fucking antifun while Havencraft is gun and good
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>>161681016
Like a shota because her body was killing her and it was either uncover the secrets of alchemy and make myself immortal or die a dog's death.
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>>161682069
Delete this right now
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>>161681692
god forbid a card has some sort of a counterplay available
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>>161682026
>b-but muh shitty cumdumpster sleeves

I wish I've stayed a B though. I still win it just takes about twice as much time with all the Dshitters and Dirteaters.
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>>161682025
Phoenix Roost and Soul Dealer.
Some other anons might say these shitty trash cards like Demonic Simulacrum or whatever, but the key here is that Phoenix Roost and Soul Dealer will actually make you lose the game a lot of the times if you play them.
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>>161682012
>Other games have made spell only decks fun
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>>161681692
>it's not a 10PP win the game with no deck building card
the horror
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>>161682171
Phoenix Roost F&G won me a bunch of games.
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>shadow going against haven
>think about roping him every turn
>he greets me when i greet him
>decide not to rope him
>win
>he pulls the disconnect shit on me
fuck you, havenshitters. i will never not rope against you ever again.
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>>161682069
Doesn't the thing she sits on also look like a toilet?

otohimefags btfo
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>>161680501
He's a Timmy card, no doubt. Hopefully the foil version of him will look pretty.
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>>161674798
Glory be!
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>>161682171
People are already getting ready to meme it up with Phoenix roost into Bahamut.
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>>161682256
>even thinking about roping
scum
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>just shit stomped isabelle and erika on elite with my improved shitty shadow deck
>tfw not even bots with perfect math and cancer decks are enough for my intelligence
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>>161680396
why are her tiddies covered?
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>>161682413
How is that any better than just playing Bahamut raw?
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>>161682171
>not knowing about the future ramp dragon 9PP
4/5 ward, 5/5 ward,rush, 4/4 rush dream
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>>161681896
you replied to the wrong person im talking about haven not shadow. And having a neutral card gain rush JUST to counter 2 classes is a bit absurd.

either way bahamut is shit by design even giving him rush won't save it, it's just a big body that comes with themis for all your mana that will most likely die the next turn or get memed by otohime
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>>161682452
it's only against haven, though. they deserve it.
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>>161682509
>play phoenix on 5
>opponent drops all his high cost shit
>turn 6 drop Bahamut for 5
>all the shit is destroyed including the phoenix roost.

You'd probably die for not doing anything on turn 5 though most likely.
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>>161681649
>dshift mirror
>draw all your kaleidoscopic glows and windblasts immediately
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>>161680578
I have to say, without having any idea of what I was getting into, the anime was a pretty fun ride. I won't mind cards based off of the two.

The ED was also really nice to listen. One of the few animes where the ED was miles above that mediocre OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrjz1ORCVQ

AIII WILL FAAAAAALLLOOOWWW YOOOUUUUUUUUU!!!!
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>>161682639
>Play Phoenix Roost on 5
>Haven opponent drops their Seraph and two Arias
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>accidentally fizzling your Seraph
Why do Elana+Seraphcucks not just play Storm?
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>>161682714
Like I've said you'd probably die.
6 out of 7 classes won't have amulets too. People will also learn to anticipate it withing moments of expansion release though. You might catch some poor souls at first but that's about it.
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>>161680501
>A board clear that drops when every other deck has already activated their win conditions
fucking_nothing.jpg
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>>161682692
this song is frickin tight
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>>161682690
>starting hand is firechain, firechain, fiery embrace
>mulligans to windblast, fire chain, iceform
>draw order: windblast, fiery embrace, firechain, windblast, merlin, fates hand
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>>161680501
Where is this picture from? Did they reveal any other new cards besides the leaked ones?
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>>161682692
I love the OP lad don't say bad things about it

People say BLACK OR WHITE BUT THE WORLD IS SO GAY!!
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>Playing against Haven as bats
>I've been losing the entire game, they went Plea into Aria into Initiate into Cudgel
>On turn 6 they suddenly play Themis on their field
>Sits there for 30 seconds then surrenders
He probably could've still won after that awful mistake but goddamn.
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>be haven main
>people say havens always disconnect when they lose
>think its bullshit and people are just mad at haven
>tfw its actually true
It really does seem like haven guys always salty disconnect. I dont really see why, it wastes their time as much as yours. Rune does it a lot too.
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>>161683187
probably mobile touchscreen fucking shit up
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>>161683187
That's what you'd call autopilot.
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Are you supposed to play the campaign with default decks first or open the packs first?

I don't want to miss out on the joy of actually understanding the cards I get from opening packs, but I also don't want to play the campaigns with the default decks.
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>>161683290
for me it's always the runefags
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>>161682692
>talking shit about that op
the ed is good sure but the op is godly and the other song on the single is even better

but tbf im biased because my friends and I still joke about that guitar riff
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>>161680110
>>161680170
>>161680175
>>161680472
I actually got my first 5-0 this run wow.
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So when are we going to get the new neutral legendary Bell Queen Dongerhime which floods the board with ding dongs?
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>>161683290
my meme disconnects are 50% haven 50% sword
feels ebin when you beat banner with dshift and they're so visually assmad about it they disconnect on you
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>>161683356
they're doable with the default ones if you put in the ones you get from mission 1 and 5 or 6
they're doable without those but some matches can be really annoying without those cards since they're usually really good
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>>161683290
Forgot face
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I can't fucking believe how a Havenfag healed almost 40 of damage on the same fight.
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>>161679083
Royal Crypt: 4 PP Amulet: Your minions have +1 attack
How does that sound?
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>>161680501
>Bahamut
>Destroyer of Worlds
>Can't even freely attack without cleaning up the board

I'm fine with him being a niche and not competitive card but why straight emasculate him. It just ruins the character man
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>>161683356
You can safely do the first 4 missions with default decks but later ones are just annoying without some good cards here and there. Doable sure, just take more time.
I'd open the packs and just replace any neutrals with same cost class cards.
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>>161683290
A lot of the time it's just bots, but the class does attract a lot of people with bad personalities because of its strength and ease of use
I imagine most of them will switch to sword if Haven gets nerfed
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>>161683558
too triggered by things being still alive to end the game
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>>161683089
they're from the new magazine scans. they also revealed 2 cards along bahamut

Thief
3PP 2/2 [Swordcraft]
Clash: Draw a card
(new mechanic "Clash", effects that activate when attacking or being attacked)

Crystalia Lily
2PP 2/2 [Forestcraft]
Fanfare (Enhance 6): Transform an enemy follower into a snowman
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>>161683558
>>161683839
Would he better as a "20/20 can't attack face if an enemy has a follower on board" instead?
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>>161683558
yeah boi I will fuck him up but this smug fucking unicorn has to go
what do you mean you want me to go face? FUCK YOU
Baha is the big bad, I ain't gonna explain shit
or it could be FAVAROOO PTSD, who knows
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When are they gonna change the Amulet countdown tag from Last Word to some unique Amulet activation
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>>161683434
Neutral Legendary: Archangel Belle
6 cost 1/4 - Immune to targeted spells and effects.

Last Words: Summon a Bellringer Angel

Evolve: Summon 5 Bellringer Angels.

Who needs balance when you have all the Ding-Dongs?
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>>161683961
>Forest
>Turning people into Snowmen
But why
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>>161683557
That's actually pretty garbage.
One of the main points of banner in an invincible commander on the board.
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>>161683963
Make him hit your face for 5 at the end of the turn too
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>>161683961
>Transform into a snowman
>Forestcraft
When will forest get stealth and unattackable creatures? It needs buffs.
>>
Is crafting PtP and AF a wise decision at the moment?
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>>161684206
Underboob bush girl.
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>>161684095
Get cucked, nano
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>>161683390
>>161683171
Fair enough. I think the OP just wasn't for me, to be honest.
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>>161684057
this is the best idea ever
you cant remove seraph or kill me when you brick your own board
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>>161684240
Only if you're making discard dragon
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>>161684206
At this rate I'm expecting them to get overload or weapons.
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>>161684206
>Forest needs buffs
(You)
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>>161684240
If you want, PtP decks are going to be around forever and it's highly doubtful they'll ever touch the cards
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>>161680880
>weeb poster
>4chan
>svg
what did he mean by this?
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>>161684006
They should just add more amulet banish cards.
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>>161684387
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>>161684305
>implying youre not going to get 0'd to death kid
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>>161684206
Crystalia are ice elves, get with the program.
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>>161679083
I rather playful gets to summon 3 ghosts on evolve with her stats reversed. I think shadow is fine if it can get more shadow generators and some early unrestricted storm followers early game
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>>161684256
http://usamin.love/sv.html#under
cute as fuck
>>
>2017
>still no new story chapters
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11784753
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>>161684512
Is it bm to attack face with 0/2 Rine Gone or is it a show of affection?
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>>161684584
>ywn fuck an Ice elf
>>
Need a concede.

27680
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>>161684095
>>161684584
Their whole thing is that they can freeze you just by being near you.
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>>161684614
That anon was joking, playful does not need fucking buffs are you insane. 3 ghosts? That's fucking absurd.
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>>161684512
This is how the world ends. Not with a bang, but a ding dong.
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>>161683961
Man, I never noticed all the forest favoritism before this general pointed it out but this is just silly. Strictly better effect than this card since the 1/1 snowman is a silence and it doesn't even need a evolution point.
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>>161684650
this is the only way to answer that survey
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>>161684650
It's multiple choise census of /svg/
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>>161684614
Stats reversed would be fine, 3 ghosts is too much.
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>>161684723
Yeah, you only need to pay 6 PP for it.
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>>161684634
>suddenly forced to download file to listen

What the hell?
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>>161684663
Thanks.
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>>161684757
Mah nigga.
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>>161684757
>play isabelle and vampy exclusively
Damn right
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>>161684650
>no tomboys
garbage list, did not vote
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>>161684634
Like a... [ROAR]
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>>161684306
>>161684426
I'm just asking because I am really fascinated by all those PtP decks that are ladder-viable (not Forest PtP) but it's quite big investment and I'll probably be starving for vials when RoB hits.
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>>161684829
Yeah Idk either, you can listen with the icon to the side, but not load it in a new window

Maybe it's a chrome thing?
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>>161683290
>be haven main
>tfw its actually true
Accuse!

Seriously though it's probably standing in fire like a persecuted witch shit. You get your face punched in for a while until something finally counts down then didn't topdeck the so funny evil deeds man on 4 while going second and have no game plan? Well get fucked. It's not fun to play against and not that fun to play a bunch of timers or pray for the perfect Elana curve while getting shit on by anything with a strong early game.

One or two of JP Eris' evo lines sound kind of desperate, like playing is really a struggle. Then after it flops and loses, they are the frustrated victim and turn off the moble device or alt-F4 and leave the game for a while because they don't want to watch people slow roll BMing obvious lethal when they've already lost.

"It's always japs" probably comes from being a lot easier to flip a tablet cover or turn a phone off and forget, which is what they play on.
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>>161684656
i do it all the time with my scrap golems and ding dongs if im vsing haven or forest just to annoy them
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>>161673632
But I am.
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#alex
CHARGE
CHARGE
CHARGE
CHARGE
CHARGE
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Fuck
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>>161685269
>going 2nd
keep them
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>>161685269
STRENGTH AND BEAUTY TOGETHER
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>>161685269
You need a floral fencer, swing and novice trooper are kinda what you're looking for
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>>161685269
Perfect.
>>
>>161685107

Besides the phone turn off thing i think you are going a bit far with your pocket psychology.
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>>161685224
English dub for Alexander actually sounds better than Japanese.
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>>161685269
What's the matter? Can't handle her strength and beauty?
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>me playing after 3 months again
>I have first turn, 2nd turn has 3 evos and gets his evo faster?
Is this normal? And why the fuck does 2nd turn get this shit faster?

Also:
- should I save for new wxpansion? I play mostly swordcraft
- why are legendaries so damn expensive
>try to liquify legendary moving card (alexander)
>only 2500 vials
>aurelia normal costs 3000 vials
Why?!
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>>161673632
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>>161684650
>weeb gets that assblasted
ayyy
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>>161683961
Forest yet again steals another mechanic from a different class. Guess healing better than Elana wasn't enough.
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>>161685224
Male English dub is actually ok.
Female voices though are irredeemable shit.
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>>161682773
Is this beginner 0?
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#frontguard

does the english frontguard have a speech problem? jesus christ
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>>161685585
But they were healing with fairy beast before elana existed
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>>161674463

>wanting to climb
>>
>Last 3 games against Haven have been Plea into Aria into CD reduction
What the fuck are the odds. I want the actual math.
>>
>finally beaten all the elite bots
Y-you think I'm ready to play against real people now?
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>>161685608
Beginner -1.
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I went first four times.

All five of my opponents were Sword.
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>>161685585
>Healing is a mechanic unique to Haven
First off, there are neutral healing cards.
Second, Fairy Beast came before Elana you steamshitter.
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>>161684650
>tits
>but no legs nor ass
Whatever, man.
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>>161685626
what the fuck? that's awkward
glad I can play undubbed
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>>161685626
>having shit taste

I
WILL
ABIDE

BROTHERS
IN
BATTLE
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>>161685476
The voice acting in general got a lot better with DE.
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>>161685702
You went 5-0 right?
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>>161685684
the elite bots are better than 96% of the people you'll encounter
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>>161685769

Tits and hips are what makes women.

If you are an ass-man you might aswell say you wanna fuck boys with long hair desu
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>>161685626
Absolute shit taste, what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>161685598
>implying
http://usamin.love/sv.html#hammer
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Makoto you're a fucking faggot
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>>161685626
>Shatnerguard General
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>>161685959
Unacceptable, just like she said.
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>>161685663
>>161685714
>Assblasted forestshitters denying the obvious favoritism from the devs
Every time
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>>161685626
>he doesn't abide
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I want Dark General to scream at me with that voice.

http://usamin.love/sv.html#dark_ge
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>>161685959
I love this one
http://usamin.love/sv.html#elf_healer
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>>161685892
>hips
>ass
>separate things

anon please, next you'll say boobs and nipples are separate
>>
Anyone has a Control Sword list?
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>>161685959
>>161685626

Nothing beats elf healer dub, my sides are in orbit every time.
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>>161673632
I plan to play Shadow next. Hopefully they get some good stuff next expansion.
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>>161685892
Tits are just a nice complement, anon.
A girl without huge tits can be cute and beautiful, a girl without ass and legs is probably irish.
I agree on hips though.
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>>161686208

But they are separate things anon.
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>>161685959
>P-Please settle down!
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>>161686207
Either Charon makes me hard desu

http://usamin.love/sv.html#charon
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What will get the best support with the new pack ? Dragons? Forest? Sword? Favaro?
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>>161686207
Site needs effect voicelines too.
>Keep yer chin up!
>>
>dub is so much worse you guys
>this exists
http://usamin.love/sv.html#lizardman
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>>161686246
>>161686246

http://usamin.love/sv.html#elf_healer

forgot link
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http://usamin.love/card/charon/e_death.wav
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>>161686232
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>>161686295

Nah.

A girl without tits can probably be beautiful.

A girl without ass and legs is probably a cripple
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>>161685892
If your prefer ass to tits you are an uncivilized animal.
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>>161685626
It's like a handegg player, I guess.
When you think of the card, it makes sense.
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>>161686232
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>>161685469
But I didn't even get into how Eris is the mother they never got enough attention from!

But yeah, generally it's whatever, just you can get a basic concept of what's not fun to struggle with and see how people might be frustrated dealing with it into a hopeless late game. If Haven was trash before Aria and they don't get it or their power plays are all out of place then it'll still feel like playing trash when they get run over by more traditional pressure.
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>>161686493

But the picture you posted says otherwise.

Unless you see Africa, Mexico and muslims as the epitome of civilization
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#cursed_gen
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>>161686619
Read his post again.
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>>161686493
>clearly doctored map
good one you man child
aren't there titties you should be suckling on?
>>
how big is erikas dick?
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>>161686454
>>161686524
>No Leonidas
Where's the fun then?
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>>161686173
Dark General is definitely one of my favorites voices in the game, such a shame that the dub is so shitty
>>
>tfw no good storm dragon/ramp dragon lists
>>
Best dub in the game. I can't even tell the difference. The actor did a real good job.

http://usamin.love/sv.html#lord_of_the
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AFTER ME, SOLDIERS
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>>161686493
>filename
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>>161686539

Well i could indulge you in a theory of mine that is not the same as yours, but might compliment it a little.

I think instead of direct not wanting a hopeless situation, Haven and Rune players want control. They are two strong control archetypes, and thus if they find themselves out of control they get frustrated and vengeful.

It might sound the same, but its a bit more precise, because nobody wants a hopeless situation, but not everyone is a control freak, which is a type of personality those deck archetypes might invite.
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>>161686893
kek nice
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>>161686893
flesh flesh flesh flesh flesh flesh
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>>161685892
You do know that butts are what humans were originally attracted to right? We evolved to be sexually attracted to breasts as well just because they're at eye level so it's easier.
Now I'm a boob man myself but butts are also very important.
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>>161686893
Weebs BTFO
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>>161686724
the fun is putting down wards and watching your opponent never be able to hit face, then playing Olivia and evolving floral fencers at him.
>>
We Prison School now?
>>
which girl has the best butt?
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>>161687013

and that is a established fact by everyone and not just a theory ammirite?
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>>161687102
Me.
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>>161687013
>>161687084

I think so, because I'm going to post this.
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>>161687102
Lilith or Gauntleted Healer
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>>161687102
Lilith.
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>>161686893
>listen to the japanese version
>suddenly line sounds like its saying fresh fresh fresh fresh
>>
best dub, uncontested
http://usamin.love/sv.html#clay_golem
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>>161686893
http://usamin.love/sv.html#clay_golem
Why did they dub clay golem? It sounds worse too.
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>>161687167
Thanks for being on top of things anon
>>
Just started playing and looking to start working on my first deck, the legendaries I have that arent neutral are:

Bloody Mary, Zirnitra, Moon Al-mi'raj, and Rose Queen.

Assuming I want to start my first deck off with a legendary in it which of these would be the best and worth starting with? I was thinking Haven or Forest looking at the cards and online some but I'm not sure.
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>>161686454
>>161686524
How about two Urds to trigger Leonidas and Frontguard?

If I have only 1 Alex, 1 Tsubaki and 2 Aurelia/Otohime, should I bother with the list?
>>
lucifer quotes are all fucked up
http://usamin.love/sv.html#lucifer
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#vania

This dub, what were they thinking?
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>>161687379

Meme it with Rose Queen senpai.
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>>161687151
But that's just a theory. . . a BOOBS theory. Thanks for reading.
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>Trying to test a memey otk shadow deck
>People playing full blown tempo elf all legendaries in unranked

for what purpose
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>>161687379
Moon Al-mi'raj builds into the Storm Haven deck which is pretty cheap to build.
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>>161687521
Go for it, janky bullshit is the name of the game with CSword.
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>this fucking roach did 18 damage in one turn

Remember to play Forestcraft.
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>>161687529

peeeerish
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Any advice other than getting a 3rd Cerb?
Or playing a better class?
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>>161686924
Oh yeah, that's more succinct. I was mostly thinking of the early game stages. If I find out it's Elana, the plan with a supposedly slower midrange deck is to use evos to rush more aggression and overpower them before their control options are easily drawn or affordable. It works, and that can't be much fun to lose to. Same with DShift, in banking all the deck on control, if they can still force through it, it's certainly frustrating.

Actually reminds me all the times I get put on defensive and it's not at the pp where I can afford to even play two decent response tools. Usually by 1 cost.
>Bank on them not being able to answer four middling threats yet
>Be proven right and win
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>>161687612

To win dailies u baka
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>>161687817
Remove skeleton for goblin
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>>161687847
no
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>this kills the mordecai
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>>161676875
He doesnt nuke your own board which will be full most likely as sword
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>>161687521
Urding Leonidas sounds like it could be worth something, not sure about frontguard. You can just add more ruthless assassins if you don't have more Tsubakis. 3 Aurelias is important, but you could probably get by with 2.
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>>161687863
>Being such a cuck you don't play your dailies in ranked even with a full built T1 deck for the class.

I forgot people were cowards.
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>>161687271
http://usamin.love/sv.html#bat

Another masterpiece.
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>>161687847
I'm D3, there's some real pros here so you're in for a tough climb.
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>>161687903
I might as well liquefy my mordecais at this rate.
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>>161687903
>This makes the Bahamut feel slushy.
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>>161687971
>>161687903
LET'S DO THIS R-GOLLY
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>shadow vs dragon
>have lethal next turn with skull beast, harnessed flame, and harnessed glass on the board
>he passes so we can see the glorious Flame and Glass
dragonbros are p cool
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>>161687903
Let me just make that ward/last word dude/unattackable dragon follower useless and rape your face with my army of angry midgets.
>>
>>161687903
What is "Enhance"
>>
>>161687903
>hey guys forest has everything in the game except banish for last word followers while other classes struggle to even get proper card draw. what do we do?
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>>161687167
but men have asses
liking butts inherently makes you bi
just ask /fit/
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>>161684829
fixed
>>161687529
i didn't know there were cards with different post-evolution lines so those are all messed up
i'll work on those next
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>>161687903
>Bahamut the fearsome snowman
>Another Crystalia to bounce up and down and get off a bunch
Purgatory was just the beginning.
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>>161688017
>'ultra powerful' new lego releases
>in the same expansion elf gets a hilarious direct counter to it
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>>161687102
I have painstakingly researched all the cards and the answer is Tsubaki.
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>>161687924

So you just ad hominem people for doing their dailies in the most fast and efficient manner possible?

gee anon, at least just say you are salty because you cannot meme.
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>>161688134
Baha gets "countered" by every piece of removal in the game, getting GOLLY'd isn't exactly a strike against it.
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>>161688129
purgatory has a new master anyway (^:
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>>161687903

Effectively a banish, just what rune needs more of and other classes should never get
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>>161688125
Add effect trigger quotes to cards with them while you're at it if you can
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>>161687903
>People said investing in Forest was a bad idea because it was going to be nerfed
It's so obvious who's new to the game
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>>161687903
>another card for forest to bounce

golly
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>>161688241
Thats why I said a hilarious counter
Baha getting slushied is hilarious
>>
>>161687903
>4 mana "banish" attached to a 2 cost card in stats
>gives the enemy a 1 drop

>Odin
>4 mana banish attached to a 4 cost card in stats

So slightly less value than Odin but comes with the flexibility of using it earlier and costing less total mana meaning more options to combo with. Can also being just a regular 2 drop if you're desperate for one early game.

Probably worth using over Odin for forest just because of the lower total cost alone.
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>>161685224
http://usamin.love/sv.html#leonidas
>Everything in the Jap voice
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>>161688347
Oh god.
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>>161687903
I'm gonna fuck you up nano
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>>161687903
I think forestcraft should get dimension shift, like make it 4play points to compensate for them not being able to spellboost it
>>
So this is the power of memes...
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>Silly weebs forgot to remove the /hsg/ from their pedo game

I'll be making your next thread today
>>
Any master anon here, I'm AA1 currently and had been facing a lot of control blood as midrange sword. I lose most of the time since if I get them to vengeance, they will just clear the board with revelation or summon that bane/drain guy and I had to use my minions to kill him. If the game drags to turn 9, I'm completely fucked by temptress. Should I tech 1 more barrage into my deck and replace 2x tsubaki with DoD?
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>>161687903
I hope Enhance is a new mechanic.
>>
>tfw thought robin hood was a girl all this time until someone played him
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>>161688112

/fit/ is probably right, they're experts on what is "no homo"
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>>161688505
Put the census in the op http://www.strawpoll.me/11784753/r
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>>161688451
>Only 4
Forest should just get time walk
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>>161688527
It doesnt really matter with elves
>>
>>161687690
>>161687918
Yeah alright, guess I'll liquefy some useless stuffs to craft another Olivia. 1 Alex is fine right?
>>
>bannerfaggot draws all 3 alwida's with 30 cards left
wow just fucking wow and you retards complain about hearthstone rng
>>
>>161688610
1 Alex isn't ideal but it's doable
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Nice Bahamut you've got there.
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>>161688576
Nah.

Fuck off, dumb weeb.
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>>161688639
moa
>>
>>161687903
We need to go further. "an enemy follower" is now changed to "an enemy follower or amulet"
>>
>>161688639
Drawing is not considered RNG. This is for any card-based game. RNG is something like May, or Lord of Flies where the effect of a played card is determined by a randomly generated number.
>>
>>161688639

>draw RNG

Maybe you should stop playing card games.
>>
>>161688412
Just realized it doesn't work on amulets though, so I guess that means Odin still works better in that situation as well especially if you need a counter to seraph for a slower forest deck (which is the kind that would run this card)

Might be still be worth it though. Only problem is there still isn't a good counter to d-shift for slower decks. The game really needs some kind of increase spell-cost stall like Loatheb from hearthstone.
>>
>>161687167
Wrong, asses are false tits. That's why tits produce a nourishing liquid and asses just produce shit, and why asses are lower down and on the backside of the body.
>>
>>161688757
Why stop there? Just change it to "your opponent's leader"
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>>161688417
Jap Leo makes me grow chest hair.
>>
>>161687167
reminder he's lying in this scene
>>
>>161688451
nah man I got the way better idea, give them seraph
BUT instead of being an amulet counting down it should already start counting down in your hand everytime you play a fairy and if it reaches lapus, balance be you win the game while its still in your hand
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>>161688241
It's just the most amusing and humiliating.

I could see things like Lily hitting "can't be attacked" and new clash keyword minions the hardest. Enhance fanfares and more spell removal tools should be interesting in extra options to punish being too greedy and taking weight off evo orb power a bit.
>>
>>161688639
>fire chain manages to kill all my mobs
wow just fucking wow
>>
>>161688857
I'd love to be turned into a snowman.
>>
>>161687903

Where do you get to see these new cards? Link?
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>Get 2 6/10 in one side, and a 2/10 and a 10/10 on the other

FUCK ME
>>
>>161688948
Rogue's creed can be kinda okay if you draft some ambush cards
>>
>>161688948
left
>>
>>161688857
Snowman Rune skin when?
>>161688948
>2 6/10
In what fucking world is Alexander rated the same as Stratagem?
>>
Everybody keeps disconnecting especially the try hards playing storm haven, how can you be an absolute shitter playing easy decks and be so thin skinned to not be able to take a loss?
>>
>>161688948
if Rogue's Creed is a 2/10 what the hell is a 1/10
>>
>>161688945
shadowverse twitter
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>>161688875
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>>161689034
Phoenix Roost.
Dimension Shift, though the removed it.
>>
>>161689034
Your mom
>>
>>161689034

Phoenix roost.

Creed might help you if you get some ambush.
Roost actively helps your opponent because you usually cant play shit when you play it, and he has double mana.
>>
Kek, themis is really a shitty card this fucking worthless board clearer kill the own minions
>>
>>161689034
Literally unusable shit like PtP, Conjuring Force, Phoenix Roost etc.
Even spells like Cloud of Chorus can still find some use in pushing that one trade you need.
>>
>>161689003
It can also be a dead card in hand and a slot taken up on the board.
Stratagem is not great but at least you can use it when you run out of cards.
>>
https://forums.shadowverse.com/index.php?/topic/4398-rise-of-bahamut/

For the rest of the sneak peak.
>>
>>161689250
moa
>>
could somebody help me with a concede?

92756
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>>161689250
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>>161688098
Since it's enchance (6). if you have 6 or more PP you can play it for 6 PP to activate an additional effect.

So you can use it as a 2 PP 2/2 or a 6 PP 2/2 with a transform effect.
>>
So control forest gonna be a thing now?
and silver bolt gets more viable with White Wolf
>>
Impressive
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Links oder rechts?
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>>161689481
lucy
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#queen_vamp
Jap dub btfo
>>
>>161689367
me, thank you mordecai
>>
>>161689630
http://usamin.love/sv.html#mary
>>
>>161673583
There are almost none in the entire game though. Even Themis is rarely actually useful because you'd much rather just remove those followers turn four or five with a mass deal two or three damage spell than wait to be almost dead at turn six.

Angelic Barrage is almost worthless outside of specifically the Forest matchup. It's barely even helpful against Blood.
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>>161689441
They definitely seem to be making an effort to focus on the lesser used (or nonexistant) deck options for the more successful crafts.
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>>161689475
>29 votes loli
>20 votes weeb
== 9 pedophiles

very impressive indeed
>>
>>161689441
>heal with fairy beast
>clear with WIll of the Forest
>taunt with Tia/ancient elf
>search with White Wolf (Rose Queen, Silver Bolt)
>remove threats with lily

What can't this craft do do?
>>
Female eng dubs all sound like tumblrites who do anime fandubs. If you haven't undubbed you shouldn't even be playing this game desu.
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>>161689882
Weeb loli are okay but not weeb loli are a threat.
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>>161689481
That dragon pisses me off so much more than Olivia ever has in Take 2, holy shit.

Totally right.
>>
http://usamin.love/sv.html#courier
>>
Need a break
1-3 SC2000
4-6 VN/eroge
7-9 AoE2
0 sleep

>>161689902
Banishing amulet.
It's in the next expansion.
>>
>>161689902
Countering dshift
It will be fixed next expac
>>
>>161688276
A rank?
I think I played against you today.
>>
>>161689374
oh, cool
>>
shadow, blood, and dragon are the only players worthy of respect
>>
Best dub
http://usamin.love/sv.html#commander_of_des

Not very talkative for a commander
>>
>>161690249
Only because they're running the currently weak classes.
>>
Coco or Mimi?
>>
>>161690293
It's literally a Nazgul so yeah.
>>161690249
No, playing with garbage doesn't make you worthy of respect.
>>
>>161690453
its the pits for you
>>
Strengh...?
>>
>>161690249
Where do I get my respect check for playing haven pre-DE
>>
>>161690453
Mimi.
>>
>>161690249

Fuck respect, I don't want respect from some faceless nobodies on the internet. I want to win.
>>
>>161690493
and beauty...?
>>
>>161690620
togheter
>>
>>161690670
are you ok?
>>
literally WHERE are the donjons for this game I need to see isabelle take so much dick she literally forgets what a kyle is
>>
>>161690249
Why do these three crafts deserve respect? Some of them come off as whiny cunts lately. Dragon isn't even performing poorly and I hear them whine more than anyone (except maybe shadow).
>>
Hand over your soul
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>>161690703
He clearly ins't. Stop staring!
>>
>>161690807
because they dont get throw down whatever the fuck they want and win
they have to use turn timing and combos to actually win the match
>>
What follower would be the best mother?
>>
Never played Take 2, which class is the most idiot-friendly in a draft environment?

Also do I keep the cards I pick?
>>
>>161690803
They're gonna be at Comiket at the end of the year.
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>>161690968
Fafnir
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>>161690989
>friendly
Sword>shadow>dragon
>pick
No
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>>161690968
Ancient Elf
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>playing Forestcraft
>get dicked on by TRIPLE Arcane Barrage

I don't understand how you people play this kind of deck.
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>>161690941
>They have to use turn timing and combos
What?
Maybe Control Blood
Aggro Blood and every good Dragon and Shadow deck are linear as fuck.
Seriously Dragon especially is one of the easiest crafts in the game.
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>>161691061

>de-births her children

sure man
>>
how do you beat the last shadowcraft story boss? his cards are so much better than mine
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>>161691104
By not overextending into spells without Liza.
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>>161691157
>Sends everyone home to be safe
>Gets more powerful per person sent home
Sounds like Mom material to me
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>>161690968
Magisa
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>>161690941
>Face Dragon, Aggro Bat
>timing and combos
Dude stop. Face Dragon is my secondary deck climbing ladder in AA. It is mindless as shit. Also Aggro Bat is just using everything in your hand for face until you run out of cards and topdeck your last storm/face damage card.
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>>161691140
>>161691338
>control
>aggro
>face
fucking nerds look at the classes as a whole
>>
Why do people keep saying that dragon and shadow are weak? at least they can use their mechanics like a class

>>161691037
We are at the end of the year
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>>161691104

Well for one thing not everyone runs 3 Angelic Barrages and even fewer will draw all 3 in the same game.
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>>161691465
Shadow isn't weak. It's just that over half the ladder counters them hard.
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Revisiting this midrange shadow deck. Could use some advice. Im looking into maybe fitting in some Deathchasers/Skullcradles and Soul Conversions are halfway on the table. Im unsure of what I want to do at this point, please help me out Shadowbros.
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>You need 2 followers to make bahamut unable to attack
>Anime bahamut was sealed by Odin and Prince;
Coincidence?
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>>161691438
I don't understand why they would deserve respect if they are using a mindless deck build though. All other classes have interesting options as well you know.
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>tfw you're drawing like a God today
Feels nice when you have a lucky day
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>crafts designed for late-game with their unique mechanics
>their only good decks are aggro decks
why is this?
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>>161691790
Dshift
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>>161691717

>someone thought that using Odin's fanfare on something not bahamut was a good idea.
>>
is ptp the only thing that non-shadow classes use shadows for
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>>161691790

Because by the time you get to late game, you've already been raped by Forest, Sword or Dshift.
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>>161691438
I specifically mentioned Control Blood, which is one of the most challenging decks in the game. Aggro Bats is not though.
Meanwhile, Dragon is super easy. Every Dragon deck is easy. You're either playing a face deck or a ramp deck. You play shit on curve and then hit people in the face with fat storm cards. That's all there is. Sure there's Discard/PtP Dragon but that deck is hot garbage.
Shadow is also pretty easy; it's very midrangey, even in the control build. It's very curve out and win. Sure it has the Phantom Howl combos but those aren't that difficult.
It's one think to say they deserve respect because they're the underdog classes (not really), but it's another to claim they're more skill-based than the top classes.
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>>161691645
https://twitter.com/tiger_sakurai/status/804672720659062784
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>>161691790

(((Haven))) did this
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>>161691790
Because trying to use those mechanics leaves them too vulnerable.
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>Elana
>Banner
>Banner
>Elana
>Seraph
I want to die
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>>161691338
i wish i could play blood and dragon different ways without them being shit
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>daily missions completed
>zero desire to continue playing
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>>161692042
Grind up your new emblems and card backs, anon.
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>>161691790
If you're talking about Blood, Control Blood is kept back by the fact that everyone's got crazy burst capabilities.
If you're talking about Haven, Elana/Seraph is better than Storm.
If you're talking about Shadow, it gets fucked too hard by Haven.
That's it.
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>>161691989
How does he run the deck with Undying Resentment as his only form of single-target removal?
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>>161692026
Maybe next year. ;^)
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>>161692156
No idea, only found the decklist for you.
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>get matched 4 out of 5 with swords
>that one match where I won was from another dragoncraft

Fuck this shit what was I supposed to pick between rune, shadow, and dragon. I didn't even get to draft a Forte.
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>>161692026
There is no interesting way to play Dragon.It's a ramp class. Ramp is a really basic strategy.
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>madame lich is Necromancy (6): give all followers bane
What the shit, I thought it was an evolve effect. Am I getting it mixed up with another card or do I have reading problems?
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>>161691465
>We are at the end of the year
Comiket is at the very end
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New thread
>>161692272
>>161692272
>>161692272
>>
85622 concede onegai
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>>161692242
Well thank you, resourceful anon. But I'm probably going to have to playtest other things as I don't really like some of the card choices of his. 2 Mordecai 2 Charon seems cloggy to me.
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65432
Concede please and thanks
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>>161674798
Glory be
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>>161692291
no you're right it is a mediocre win more card.
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