/bfg/ - Battlefield General

Reminder that if you have under 1.5 KPM, 900 SPM, 600 skill, 65% winrate, and 85%+ weapon kills you're garbage

>>161654998
t. 1.5 KPM, 900 SPM, 600 skill, 65% winrate player

>>161654998
skill doesnt mean anything because it can fluctuate so much

The only thing that matters is winrate anyways. Nothing you do has any purpose if it doesn't win games.

>>>161650459
Press shift to no sway is already in
And it's a shit mechanic

>>161652245
>ever using crosshair with pistol within 30m

Operations are fucking hard for offense. How do I get good at this?

>>161657896

Play aggressively

On pub operations the only excuse a team ever has for losing is that they didn't W+M1 the objective enough

>>161657896
Spam vehicles.

Some advanced tips i learned while playing today
-The lmg from the sentry class actually gets more accurate the longer you fire
-You can make the minimap on your screen way bigger in the options
-You can cancel grenandes by tapping L2 while holding it

>>161658894
>this passes as advanced knowledge for consoleros

>>161659000
>>161658894

I'm going to sound like a casual fuck now, but how do you cancel grenades on pc? Haven't tried it, or if I did it didn't work, but it could be a good thing to know. Just switch weapon?

Is it so much to ask for a fucking battlepack progression bar? I fucking hate this
>"Sometimes you get one sometimes you don't"
crap.

>tfw game runs worst than the beta
>have to run on literal potato graphics just to get 60-70 FPS

> click cavalry in spawn screen
> spawn in as pilot on a horse

REEEEE

I seriously hope there are no backstabbing italians in this thread.

>>161659981
I still dip on Amiens and a few other maps
It looks like my i5 4690k@ 4,4 maxes out

>>161660430
Friendly reminder that Groizians and people from Trieste were pissed about the Italians taking them over.

>>161659404
you switch weapons

>>161661016

Figured as much. Best to double-check, so I don't need to do it and find it not working at a crucial moment.

>>161659404
I've seen videos were the grenade just goes flying with no animation, is this what you mean or just stopping the throw?

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>R9 290
hello darkness my old friend

>>161661729
>r9 280
Maybe I should upgrade

>>161661729
>GTX 750 still almost playable

>play kaiserslacht
>play better than I've done all day
>can't even take first sector because people are camping right outside the radius of A and rush off into the enemy trenches instead of actually sticking around to take B
>whichever point I'm not on not only does not get taken, but quickly gets retaken if we've managed it
>the only squad with decent players(not two hillniggers per squad) is locked with three people in it

How hard can it fucking be to move inside the point's capture radius instead of camping a hair's breadth outside of it getting killed over and over?

>can't put AA sights on the infantry versions of scout guns

Cringe. This would make them so much better.

>>161657896
Attack fast before the defense is fully set up, hold one objective, because your retard teammates will all abandon it as soon as it's capped. Pray you have a good tank whore

>still playing this shit

LMAO

>>161659405
They're skins m8. Why are you so angry?

>>161662149
i have gtx760 it aint bad i play on low with mesh quality ultra, still looks nice

>>161661729
Video gaming was a mistake

Do the guys in tanks try to destroy the enemy tanks? No.
Do the guys in tanks defend the points that aren't attacked by tanks? No.
Do the guys in tanks hang back to "farm" three infantry kills when we absolutely need to take back a point this very minute to not lose? YES.

This game can be fantastic when you end up with an actual team playing against another actual team.

>>161663645
I'm angry because I got a sweet gold skin for the baby pistol, and then I learned I needed scout lv 10 to use it

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I'm fucking sick of the M97 and 12g being inconsistent trash. I'm done with these dice rolling shit shotguns.

What SMGs am I allowed to use if I don't want to be labeled a mouth-breathing shitter?

>>161665097
/bfg/ platoon which when? We will literally faceroll pubs

>>161665097
Don't forget the plane shits that spend the game killing each other, rather than helping infantry destroy enemy armor.

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Why are the console sized maps often better designed in BF4?

>>161665176
Assault is the shitter class unless they're actually focusing on taking down vehicles like they're supposed to.

>>161665335
would be more fun to fight each other than to stomp with no challenge

>>161665371
lots of the planes have decent ground attack options, but the dogfighter has literally no purpose except to shoot down other fighters, it's trash at killing attack planes and bombers even

I just don't get it

>>161658179
>>161658179
>>161663207

Games that force a team to play together and coordinate or lose are highly addictive and more fun. Hopefully (but probably not), DICE gives at least a mod or game type that bathes the base BF1 in the essence of Red Orchestra 2.

While having many less features, that game was significantly more fun given how it literally forced teams to play as a team.

>>161665371
I always forget planes because they're such a non-entity for the gameplay. Either you get some points when you notice one going over you when you're close to an AA(or you can have a boring playtime camping an AA), or you get randomly killed by one when you're busy focusing on actually killing enemies on the point you're taking. It's like a more boring hillnigger, because at least if you spot a hillnigger nest you can flank them and have some fun with explosives.

>>161665371
I just spent about 5 consecutive minutes twirling around another fighter trying to get behind each other
What a waste of time
I eventually snuck off by using a river as camouflage after sharp turn

>>161665773
what is hardcore

hardcore on a good map turns it into the first game that has actually felt like battlefield for 10 years

lack of sniper tier assault rifles keeps the weapon balance from being totally horrible too

>>161665696
>would be more fun to fight each other than to stomp with no challenge

Don't ever say this. The shitters that come here completely disagree and literally never did this once in BF4, one guy even got kicked for killing other BFG members in matches. The people here would literally rather sit in boring spawnrapes over and over and over rather than have any form of a challenge and this went from the bottom all the way up to the top dog leaders of the platoon

>>161665564
That's my goal,

I normally rock support, but I've been getting pub stomped by Tanks lately and I'm sick of it.

>>161665853
I enjoy shooting on planes as they fly past
I also fly a lot so I know how annoying it is

>>161665861
if anyone is actually using AA flying over friendly AA is a great way to shake anyone and turn the tide

problem in 2, 3, 4 was the only counter to planes was other planes, now there's some teamplay

>>161665176
MP18 Experimental

>>161665853
try to be on the team that lost air superiority with decent pilots on the other side and see how much of a "non-entity" they are

>>161666006
Yeah, but once you're stuck in a deadlock where you're flying in circles 24/7 on the edge of the map you're kinda fucked if you fly away, since he'll instantly target and rape you

>>161665965
>not rocking the infinite limpet charges and light anti-tank grenades

Sure you need to sneak up on the bastards and dodge the turret after the first limpet, but it feels more rewarding.

>>161665864
I keep saying, that one could have a completely novel and different type of FPS if they stuck more narrowly to "historicism".

You would end up having a game with one unique team running around with more (But less powerful) tanks, triple-purpose rocket guns, BAR's, and shotguns, while the other team would be carrying SMG's, semi-automatic rifles, anti-tank rifles, and flamethrowers. Additionally, the performance of the team would chain very much with how well the vehicle players work together with the fire support and infantry, in a very, rock-paper-scissors-shotgun way. Then you force a substantial portion of each team to have bolt action iron-sight rifles and then you end up with something substantially different from basically any other game.

This might happen later, but definitely not while the game is still trying to be marketed to more "battlefield" oriented gamers.

>>161666353
since we're basically playing stormtroopers with all the smg's, lmg's, tanks etc, in battles where stormtroopers were actually used, it would be interesting to have an attack/defence mode with one side armed mostly with normal rifles and the attackers using all the fancy gear

the first expansion does seem to be trenches, so maybe

>>161666119
Of course they have an influence if only one side is flying around and can rape infantry at their leisure. Is that a good thing for gameplay? Not really, because nobody likes being killed by a force you can't do anything against except for at an AA station. Is planes having airfights to claim air superiority a good thing for gameplay? Not really, because it only matters to the pilots. It's like two hillniggers having a hillniggering-fight before resuming their work as a hillnigger targeting infantry. Remove planes altogether and you'd lose nothing as far as the overall gameplay goes. Tanks are down-right integral, as a comparison.

>>161665853
If it weren't for a random bomber killing me once every 3 or 4 games I'd forget they even exist.

>>161667343
Yeah, I've even found myself double-checking whether there are planes on some maps.

>>161667005
>nobody likes being killed by a force you can't do anything against except for at an AA station

there's lots you can do against it, air superiority is something you win on the ground, getting extra plane spawns, using AA truck, AA guns, killing AA on the enemy side of the map etc. to keep the other sides planes grounded and yours in the air

>>161666759
I was thinking something more upon the lines of this; but that model could be used too for "Conquest"-mode maps.

>Conquest-mode-->Skirmish mode (flags, but no dedicated attackers/defenders).
>64v64, with the teams broken down like this.
>Limited number of specialist primaries per team that are separated from specific class types.
>British team: 10 LMG's, 4 shotguns, 4 scopes, 2 rocket guns, 2 BAR's, 1 armored car, 1 heavy/light tank in play at one time, with lots, of respawns.
>German team: 5 LMG's, 2 flamethrowers, 2 anti-tank rifles, 4 SMG's, 2 semi-automatic rifles, 4 scopes, perhaps 1 A7V or captured mark IV per round.
>HUDs turned off, that's toggable, no-third person vehicles, LMG's must be deployed to ironsight, damage is solely based on caliber of weapon as opposed to the balance is in play now, repair dynamic and infinite ammunition is turned off.
>Airplane matches are (mostly) contests that more directly affect the game by observation (attack)-planes acting as a UAV for a class at a radio that can more accurately dial in assets. In regards to air, you have one set of secondary (ground attack) weapons and a finite amount of primary. However, planes are much more common in game than they are now (With 2x per team usually in play at any one time).

>>161668160
You will never get "historical" with a game; however this is much more "How it might have been" along any section of the western front 1917-1918 at any one time.

>>161667605
Taking out enemy AA so the airchavs have an easier time sure is more fun gameplay than actually playing the objective.

The point is that the divide between the planes and the infantry is too big, leading to the planes feeling like a random factor rather than something you actively look for at every moment. With a tank every class can take a light anti-tank grenade and whittle its health down. Or they can just run when the tank is in the area. It's actually fun to get shocked when you round a corner and notice a tank coming your way, forcing you to turn and run. With planes you don't get that because they're either having a dogfight or they whizz past. With planes you shoot at it a bit as it flies past if you spot it, maybe you duck behind something or run out of its path, or you get killed by it as it passes. That's all the input it has, and the input you have towards it doesn't even feel worth it unless you're at an AA. Spawning an AA truck to take down a few planes instead of spawning a tank to help your team push an objective is only appreciated if you're already getting fucked by not having friendly pilots.

It worked in BC2 when you had helicopters that were essentially flying tanks and everyone had anti-vehicle stuff. A good pilot could fuck things up, but all the infantry still felt like they had a part in taking it down rather than just relying entirely on the friendly helicopter or someone manning an AA gun.

So is there a way to stop the fucking game loading the next level?

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>>161668160
>posting this every thread

>>161668997
you don't dedicate your entire playstyle around it but if air is being a problem there are things you can do about it, and there are proactive things you can do to make sure your airchavs are the one raining death from above instead of the enemies

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>>161669293
Alt+f4.

>mfw it's actually quicker

>>161668997
also sniper rifles are basically infantry AA this time around, giving hill niggers a purpose in life, any gun can damage planes, keep shooting it makes a difference

even if you don't get killed, a single hill nigger focusing you down can be extremely annoying and keep you from being much use in the air

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>>161668997
I've said it before and I'll say it again; jets and airplanes need to be removed from the game since they contribute absolutely nothing other than hunting enemy armor (which can already be done by ground infantry), farming ground infantry, and having their own circle jerk airchav battles that are akin to shiggies dueling each other across the map

Only reason DICE keeps putting in planes and jets is because "Look, we're a combined arms game!! COD doesn't have awesome jets!"

The only plane I'd be fine with in BF1 is the Bomber, since they essentially fill the same niche as Attack Helos/Little Birds, and make them more susceptible to small arms fire and AT rockets

>>161670070
ground attack plane and trench fighter can absolutely wreck infantry, you wish you have me supporting you in a push for a point

>fire a mortar into a pack of enemies
>enemy hit +30
>spawn on a friendly just as someone is dropping a mortar on his fat stupid butt
>instant death

>>161669528
>things you can do to make sure your airchavs

Why should I care about making things more fun for the airchavs on my team? They matter to me as about as much as the airchavs on the enemy team. They just kill infantry that you'd rather have fun firefights with yourself. Tanks provide moving cover and sometimes resupplies, so they get some love if they do their job. Not to mention dealing with enemy tanks. The most that airchavs supply is some spotting, except they rarely do so, and maybe taking out a tank if they're not too busy dogfighting or farming infantry. Something that your tanks and infantry can deal with on their own.

>>161669679
Your airchav perspective is ridiculous. You actually want people to be of even less use than your usual hillnigger. At least hillniggers take out some infantry and do some spotting when they're focused on the ground. You want them to look in the air and plink away at planes instead, because it's "extremely annoying" to the airchav and causing them to be even more of a non-entity to the other players' gameplay.

>>161670264
>ignores the point
>brags about skill at farming infantry instead

Typical airheaded airchav.

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>Tank fag runs around killing everyone. Gets 20 kills before dying
>Literally waits nearly 8 minutes in the spawn screen so he can immediately spawn into the next available tank
>He gets another 15 kills unchecked before the game ends
>Every time the fucker gets low he just fucks off to the hill and self repairs where no one can chase him and finish him off.
>Quits the server next map because the map doesn't have a tank to mindlessly farm his stats on

Why is this allowed? Why is all the AT equipment so goddamn weak, holy shit.

>>161670695
I've killed plenty of planes with my own sniper rifle too

I also turn fights for flags around with bombing runs, it's not farming, I don't go looking for random dudes to shoot

air superiority wins games

>>161670861
Cheating wins games.

Does this mean that cheating is a good addition to the overall gameplay? No.

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>>161670264
Congrats, you strafed and got 1-2 people, and now you have to wait 10-15 seconds to do another strafing run which by then the same people you killed are back and contesting again

At least bombers can hover close by objectives and apply consistent pressure, which is exactly the niche helicopters filled in BC2/BF4

>>161670763
>Every time the fucker gets low he just fucks off to the hill and self repairs where no one can chase him and finish him off.

What do you want him to do, sit there?

Use AT mines, just 2 will blow up a heavy tank

>>161671024

On some operations attack planes literally wipe half of the attackers tickets if the pilot knows anything about anything.

>>161671024
bombers take much longer to turn around than attack planes though

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>>161669318
Well, i'm not the only one whose autism was triggered when a "World war I" game has a large numbers of people running around with Scoped Selbsladers and automaticos.

>>161670070
as an airchav who probably contributes more to the team than you ever do: please kys

i constantly drop flares on objectives, i constantly give orders to my squad, i constantly spot enemy armor & infantry for my team, i constantly bomb objectives that have enemy infantry on it, i constantly kill lone hillniggers with my plane and on some maps i capture the fucking objectives all alone with my plane

just because you have no fucking clue how to use a plane doesn't mean it should be removed from the game

>>161669293
It's seriously quicker to turn the game off and then back on. Our just wait for the level to load and then quit.

>>161670763
There should a lock-out deal so that you can't get into a tank twice in a row. Not just because of shitters taking up space, but to give more people the chance at grabbing a tank and learning how to play them. I don't care if our team has the best tank player ever, it still sucks a bit when you see them jump straight into another tank after they've been killed. Make it so that the lock-out doesn't count if no-one else has grabbed the tank within a set amount of time, for those rare moments when there's only one guy who actually wants to play tank.

>>161671127
>iron walls 64 players as defender
>church
>first bunker
>second bunker
>third bunker
>bridge
>little AA
It's heaven

>>161671435

The first stage of conquer hell is disgusting as well if you get the attack plane on the defending team. I think at the 3rd sector or something.

>>161668997
>With a tank every class can take a light anti-tank grenade and whittle its health down
And every infantry can shoot at incoming planes to whittle their health down, plus they can aim at the engine, the wings or just the passengers for extra fun
Especially as a sniper you can destroy them hard and let your pilots or AA finish them
Much like in BC2 where you'd snipe the people out of the choppers

>>161671262
Buy Verdun. I don't mean that to be cheeky, but the only way you'll let the execs know it's viable is if you show them sales will be just as good. So buy Verdun.

>>161671042
I have been trying just that, anon. It's easier said than done against a competent driver.

I couldn't sneak up on this guy because he was whoring 3rd person camera and every time I tried to flank and get close, he'd drive off and blow me up.

That just leaves the option of setting them in a random choke point and praying he drives on them.

That requires him to make a mistake. He wasn't making any.

I don't blame the guy for bailing when things look bad. But if AT equipment was stronger, than he wouldn't have so much time to escape to safety.

There was one point where I was shooting AT rockets at him across a field, and he just decided to ignore me and head to the next objective. I was such a non threat to him that he didn't even bother slinging a shell at me.

It's fucking demoralizing, anon.

>>161671024
>BC2 Noob
>got the game very late
>my first BF game
>pilot flying in a perfect circle around the spawn/flag just reaping in everything
>to this day I still don't know how to do that maneuver

>>161671024
>strafing runs from behind and the sides every 10 seconds while your team is pushing and while plastering the area in flares
>not amazing

>>161671668
You know, i'll just stop bitching about it and wait for mod tools to come out.

>people type 'gg' after literally every game no matter if it was good or bad

Whf is this millenial feel good pat-on-the-back SJW nonsense?

I just type 'nazis btfo' or 'wops rekt' or something oppressive like that.

>>161672090
Circle strafing was cancer in BC2 and was the reason I permanently ragequit every time that desert conquest map showed up in Every game on that map was decided literally by who had the better pilot, and who could circle strafe the the other team's base first.

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>>161672090
>BC2 noob
>my first game

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>161672434
I scrim sometimes and the people I play with will rocket any chopper out of the sky in one try, it's insane

>>161672434
Yeah it was in Atacama desert lol
>>161672461
Sorry I haven't been playing since 1942, fuck off nostalgiafag

>>161672297
>'nazis btfo'
>'wops rekt

kek

How much of a terrible human bean do you have to be to decide not to include chat in the post game stat screen

>>161673005
in bc2 you couldn't even chat in the spawn screen

>>161672706
I wouldn't be surprised. BC2 is pretty old, and the average joes have moved on. The people that are still playing it must be crazy good at the game, at this point.

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>>161672269
I... I bought verdun twice

>>161673130
They are
The recons spin around with their SV 98s gibbing you wherever you go while shitting motion balls and c4, the medics will shower you in bullets all over the map, the pioneers will take down your vehicles and somehow snipe you with their stupid little silenced dickguns, and the assaults are kinda just there but will shoot you well regardless

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Christ it's absolutely completely fucking stupid how much better some of these maps play in the small versions. What the actual fuck.

>>161673590
Any reason they were all silenced? UMP was great

>>161673590
>SV98 is ez mode
check
>medics are better assaults than assaults
check
>engineer guns are fucking laser beams
check

only thing you missed is noob tube spam from assaults

>tank has a pocket-engineer to continually repair him whenever his insta-repair is on cooldown

This is why you have one or the other, Dice. Not fucking both.

>>161673806
>tfw got a few service stars with Smoke Grenade
Shit was fun as fuck to cheese people with.

>>161673915
>supports
>taking repair tool at all
What?

>>161673806
Right, we generally don't use it because it's faggotry, but on pubs that's entirely correct

>>161674153
The tube spam that is

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>>161674051
Easy points when your squadmate takes the tank.

>mfw stealing the enemy's fortress gun on empire's edge and surviving just long enough to take out their tank with it

>>161672090
>hear heli coming
>whip out AT4
>rip heli

There is no reason whatsoever to use the tank hunter landship

prove me wrong

whats the fastest mode to farm battlepacks

>>161675417

You are wrong

>>161675417
>There is no reason whatsoever to use landship

Fixed.

>>161674051
I literally have an entire loadout based around tank support

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Another one bites the dust

>>161675332
somehow I always managed to miss by 1 pixel, sometimes I swear it just phases through ghost helis

>>161675417
Its nice in theory but the problem is the main gun is incredibly inaccurate, they need to increase the hitbox size. The amount of times my crosshair's been right on a guy and the shot misses is unreal and makes it not worth using

>>161675668
The squad support landship is pretty good with 2 friends in the gunners

my problem with all the passenger tanks is I can't help getting mad sometimes while driving because I can clearly see people but your gunners dont and theres nothing you can do with the slow ass turnrates

>scrap 12g automatic thunderball 3x to get a superior battlepack each time
>every battlepack has the 12g automatic thunderball

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Post em boys

>>161677407
the ones in the companion dont match the ones i actually use, cant be asked to fix

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>>161677407
I thought you were posting stats until I got back with my screenshot
S-sorry friend

>>161678000
that's quite alright, was just curious what people ran with

>>161678126
ILL GO BACK 4 U

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>>161678126
Idk why it wouldn't let me put the fucking LAT grenade for my assault
Said it was "conflicting"

>>161678524
how is the n 3 revolver? I like the spammy pistols but nothing beats killing people with a revolver

>>161678965
Eh, it's okay at best
Shoots slow but still a 2 shot kill
I only use it because the support class doesn't have any signature sidearms I like + I got the Legionnaire for it so it looks pretty

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>>161677719
same problem but I changed them just for you

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>>161677407
It doesn't save my loadouts for some reason so have this

>go sentry and root out enemy
>not a single medic tosses any healthpacks so die from some guy plinking at me from across the map afterwards

Why do they have an aversion against free points?

>>161681106
they probably don't even know what a medic does and just picked the class for the cei rigotti

>>161681106
I always run and hide after i get below 40 health, you regenerate health, just a lot slower than a normal soldier, and I can't rely on medics to heal me.

Or sometimes I'll follow a medic around and wait for him to drop health for himself.

>>161681889
> you regenerate health

What? I thought the sentries couldn't regenerate?

Also, why do people have such an aversion from getting into the gunner seats of tanks, even when the tank is positioned perfectly for them to mow down enemies? I just parked myself so that I could cover one street and they could cover the street the enemies were really funneling in from, but everyone preferred stepping in front of the tank and getting killed over and over instead.

>>161682985
Nope, that's how long it takes
You didn't even know

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>play for first time since new battlepack revision
>earn two packs over an hour, buy a third
>Hunter, König and Thunderball

I'm entirely okay with this.

>>161675417
Get at least one decent side-gunner and the tank hunter landship becomes the living bane of armored trains.

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>>161671429
>get into a fighter for the first time in 3 days since I got the game
>barely 15 seconds later shitter rams me from behind

What's with rush suez and turning teams into complete retards?

>play decently well with team on amiens
>map switches to suez
>four telegraphs gone in less than four minutes because half the team went sniper and nobody even tries to stop the tank, despite it being the perfect opportunity to place down some mines by the watercrossings

It's either that or when you're attacking some retard drives off and practically hands the tank to the enemy. Every fucking time it's a shitshow.

>>161671429
filter: vehicle spawn time 100% or more

basically filters out 99% of shit servers with 10000 tickets and other bullshit like that too

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>>161671429
that's one of the big conundrums to me, how do you democratize the powerful assets?

battlefront 2 had the thing where the best player would get the hero, but that meant only the best players got the hero

battlefront ea has random pickups, but they're not that random and if you learn them and use the jet/pickup-stealing-pack you can still get what you want easily instead of other people

older battlefields of course were first come first serve but then you see shitters lining up at the airfield instead of playing, really I'm fairly certain that queue still exists just in the spawn screen now

even if the spawn time is so long that you'd have to wait for a long time you'll still get shitters camping out in the spawn screen for it like you say

I just can't think of a good way

>no one playing 2142

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>join rush map
>some idiot has handed the enemy our tank

They made support class into fucking garbage. None of the guns are very good.

I get taken down at distance by medics and assaults faster than my shitty MG can shoot while it bounces around with insane recoil even using bipod.

>>161684316
>buying battle packs

Wut

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>>161687196
only decent lmg imo is this one

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>>161687187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbHEAM3pN2o

>>161687196
Use the BAR, it's the most competitive Support weapon if you need to play aggressively

>>161687196
there is literally zero recoil when supported, this has been the case since bf3

git gud

>>161687473
It's one of the worst about a low rpm but it's not bad.

>>161688271
I've only got the trench bar as of right now. It's okay but it still gets beat out by assaults and medics up close.

They made the support class not have any niche to fill in this game.

Up close you're getting shit on by assault and medics

Mid range you're getting shit on by medics while you struggle to put rounds on target even with a telescopic sight because rounds deviate heavily from target and the rounds are incredibly slow.

Long range you shouldn't even try.

BF3 and BF4 had support right. My favorite thing to do was set up with a m249 with a 4x sight, bipod, and heavy barrel leading rounds onto people running and repositioning after a minute.

>>161688762
you seriously need to git gud, my highest k/d games have been setting up shop with the lewis supressive

you have to actually support your team with support, it's the most anti-lone wolf class there is

>>161687986
this really put time into perspective

>the just want to attract the MW2 crowd
>each game is worst than the last

feels like things that get said ever new game, just replace MW2 with CoD in general

>>161688965
Oh fuck off git gud nigger.

The support needs some buffs to bring it in line with the rest of the classes. Upping the velocity and RPM on some of the guns would help the class somewhat so engaging at distance isn't a shit show.

Also
>I do great with X gun so everyone else should just git gud and use my example as a broad spectrum for every other player

You faggots are the worst.

>>161689474
they have been gunning for the cod crowd since BC2, why do you think this "rivalry" even exists to begin with? marketing created it to stand out. BF and cod were barely even in the same genre back in the day, the real competitor to cod is medal of honor but EA botched that pretty hard as usual so they had to position battlefield instead

>>161689624
LMG's already got buffed, not that they weren't fine to begin with

it's not hard, you can own anyone in close quarters if you're watching a doorway with it, it doesn't lose to medics, an assault or scout would have to have basically hax tier aim to get you as well

over longer ranges the suppression effect is pretty potent and you can still get some good kills with it

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>>161688762
>>161689624
I feel you. Support could easily still hold his own in the BF3 M16A3 meta, and in BF4 he was the God King class that could approach any situation effectively until the shitty patches

Now he occupies this retarded niche between being a repair slut, using shitty ass mortars, and performing mediocre in close, medium, and long range. Thank Reddit and Symthic for ruining Support

who else here lAT nades on almost all loadouts and smoke on assault if youre attacking ?

>>161689813
Doesn't lose to medics? A mondragon or Rigotti has the range, damage, and accuracy to 3-4 shot you fast as fuck.

>>161690090
and an lmg has the power to pump you full of lead in 1 second, the only thing that beats lmg is a fast headshot or snipe

git gud

>>161690089
>shitter assmad that lmg's aren't universally useful assault rifles with huge magazines

casuals

>>161690332
When medics can 3 shot you and assaults can kill you quicker than that I beg to differ that lmgs are the ones pumping people full of lead.

Medic is probably the strongest class in game followed by assault. Why don't you check both teams while you play and look at the class pick rates. Support isn't very high up there. Wonder why?

Can't even play unless I join a friends game, get disconnected before I even join. And I can't mess with router settings because I'm on campus....

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>>161690332
They were never ARs with large magazines dingus, in both BF3 and BF4

BF3 LMGs were actually terrifying when bipoded because getting caught by one usually meant certain death, not getting pelted by 15 dmg airsoft BBs firing at 475rpm at 30 meters away. That + BF3's suppression much more fearsome

In BF4, LMGs became tapfire monsters. That plus higher minimum damage for LMGs meant that a Support didn't have to be bipoded to shred you at a distance. He had an amazing selection of gadgets that excelled at removing annoying infantry to destroying ground vehicles and helicopters

In BF1, DICE decided for some stupid ass reason to reverse everything that made LMGs viable, give gadgets that were better utilized by him to Scouts (trapbombs, sniper shield), and then nerf his other ones. It's ironic that one of the most competitive LMGs in BF1 is practically a 20 round mag AR, which is what you're complaining about

>>161691838
BAR is only useful to run and gun niggers, like it should be

>try the titanfall 2 trial
it's just fucking cod and then once in a while you get a bigger soldier to play with, back to battlefield I go

>>161692473
do you get the battlepacks once youve played it once or what

>>161692704
what?

>hang on, why aren't I using the smle?
>try it out
>keep confusing the right and middle prong on the ironsights

The way it sways in from the left throws me off every fucking time.

>>161693584
Same. Can only use radium sights

>>161693584
Yep, you're not alone

>melee villar perosa from behind
>DINK!
>get killed

I mad.

Is it just me or is the quit button actually WORSE now? Like, it causes the map to load even more slowly than if you hadn't tried to quit, so you're stuck for longer.

>>161695434
>Using perosa
>Running out of the bunker
>friendlies getting mowed down by mg08
>stand in corner
>he walks right in
>CLUB HIS CEREBELLUM

>>161690332
>what is the autoloading 8
>what is the automatico, the thing that 99% of assaults and by extension a good 30 - 40% of all players are rocking
>what is sweet spot and the cancerous oneshot + melee/pistol shot in a game that has almost instant pistol swap time

How do I get gud with the M1903 experimental?

>>161696620
pointy shooty

>>161695434
elite classes are the sole reason i carry bayonets. feels good instakilling these guys thinking they're about to go on a rampage. it's extremely funny when you see a flame trooper since he can't burn you faster than you can bayonet him

>>161691838
>he doesn't know

>>161696620
Catch people by surprise, use or with the flares. Don't be afraid to mash the fire button as it has no recoil. It can also suppress better than LMGs.

>>161696738
>teammates who waste time having a firefight with a sentry instead of gutting him


Infuriating.

>>161697398
>people who still haven't figured out the sentry can die to gas

Jesus fucking christ trying to level up the recon is annoying. I figure I'll be useful on rush with my spotting flare as we push and setting up traps after we've planted, supporting everyone you know? But then half the team goes hillnigger so I have to fend for myself.

>>161697832
i leveled scout up last and it felt like it was the fastest one to do somehow. idk i didnt do anything special but i figure all the spot assists from flares help alot and everytime you kill another scouts its countersniping extras

>>161697832
Try the same thing, but in Operations

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whos the best streamer for bf1 and why its pic related
shes so cute and so good a the game

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>>161698145
>alright, let's listen to anon
>join operations
>takes time matchmaking
>takes time loading
>I'm the only one on the server

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>>161698910
>try again
>join half a minute before we lose
>operation over

I got a battlepack at least...

>>161691565
ANYONE HAVE THIS PROBLEM, PS4 BTW

>>161697512
People still carry gas?

>>161699760
Great way to annoy hillniggers

where do people get the killcount dogtags ? i dont see em anywhere

>>161699760
I do, it's a pretty effective smoke screen, lets me know when an enemy is in the area I threw it, and also lets me one shot them with my infantry rifle after just one tick of damage.

>>161699760
>people still use the best grenade
???

>>161699760
>not carrying gas

Why on earth wouldn't you use it?

>>161700134
That would be incendiary

>>161700029
The backside of the tag

>>161687187

Did you ask that in game chat?

I was in a game where some kid did and the enemy team called us cucks

>>161700203

blinds your teammates
blinds you
annoys everybody

God forbid if you use it on offense and keep your teammates from advancing

>>161700205
No, that would be gas.

>>161700134
>>161700203
>>161700205
>>161700632
>they dont know about smoke grenades

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how do you move when people shoot at you? can you strafe? i like to crouch in my strafes

>>161700681
Smoke grenades are a very strong second place. Shit is so fucking useful. If gas doesn't get the job done, I switch to my smokes.

>>161700617
>not throwing your gas grenades at the enemy side, so that your side can shoot at them and advance while they have to either advance into your fire, retreat, or stick around in the gas with masks on

It's not hard, mate.

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went 103-4 as a sniper, getting hackusations.
pls git gud

>>161700718

>green crosshair

My nigga, green's been my go-to since my CS:S days

>>161700845
sniping is easy faggot.

It's camping and point and click.

gitgud

I'm so fucking done with EA and Origin.

After they merged my two accounts I can't even get on EA Servers anymore. I'm done.

>finally unlock martini
>feel like I'm doing pretty badly, getting the feel of it
>get AIM KING at the end


o-okay.

>>161700718
Who here /crouchslideintoalmosteveryrevivebecauseitscoolasfuck/
https://youtu.be/ohqvAJj6kJc

>>161700718
i usually crouchslide quickly so you dont slow down and move crosshair in like an infinity sign

>>161700882
i use lime green in csgo as well, any game i play that lets me change my crosshair it'll be lime green

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>>161701021

Makes perfect sense, the human eye can see more shades of green than any other color. That's why night vision is green. You're using science to win.

I jus hit medic rank 3 on ps4, but when I go to customize soldier, it says I'm rank 0. What gives?

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>>161700914

>>161700882
>>161700718
green crosshair masterrace

>frag: excellent killing potential, large blast radius, difficult to escape from
>light antitank: poor killing potential, horrible throw distance but only way to damage armor with nades
>impact: useless, everything it does frag can do better
>incendiary: useful for blocking chokepoints but somewhat low time to live hampers it
>gas: useful for blocking lines of fire, killing sentries, only grenade that hinders friendlies as it gives them a suppression effect
>smoke: ???
also if you're playing support, you can use mortars as makeshift smoke nades

>>161700914
Bump. Anyone have any ideas?

I've been on the phone with EA the last 3 hours. Nothing is helping, it has to be something they fucked up merging accounts.

>>161701787
>smoke: ???
really nigga

also how the fuck would i have a mortar equipped as support when im running pouch and limpet like anxy reasonable person

>>161701968
you can use gas to block los too

and with 3d spotting severely nerfed, i don't see it as a very big advantage anymore to be able to remove it by throwing smoke at your feet

>>161701787
>>impact: useless, everything it does frag can do better

lol

tell me how many service stars you have with long-fuse frags. Go ahead.

>>161702132
how about you explain what service stars have anything to do with the conversation?

>>161702251
that they're better than frags

service stars are awarded at 100 kills each

>>161702251

Let me explain it to you like this

>throw frag grenade
>enemy sees directional indicator and runs away

>throw impact grenade
>guaranteed 60-80 damage

>>161702087
>he throws it at his feet

>>161702294
i have 4 service stars with frags with 50 hours of playtime. not sure how any of this is relevant but there you go

>>161702305
see, if you threw an impact at the same place where an impact would have done 60-80, you'd have landed the nade to close to the enemy that you'd get a similar if not superior damage with regular nades even if they proned or tried to run

>>161702604

>i have 4 service stars with frags

prove it

>>161702560
if ypur goal is to remove being 3d spotted, it is objectively the best way since running through it to remove spotting is unreliable at best

>playing through the campaign on hard out of boredom
>playing the pilot level where you destroy 2 behemoths over London
>get ran into by friendly and enemy planes A LOT
>have multiple planes behind me that tear my plane to nothing in seconds while this fat fuck in the back does NOTHING

Did they even play test this level for hard mode? It's broken.

>>161702781
why would i do that tho, ur spotted like 1s.
NOT WORTH
O
T

W
O
R
T
H

>>161702709
>pass user since 2012

ecks dee

What's the best tripwire bomb and why is it objectively the incendiary one?

>>161702883
in bf4 you dumb nigga

>>161703278
inb4; you dumb nigga

that doesnt make sense

>press escape to join squad
>the menu doesn't show up, the screen just goes fuzzy
>can't exit or do anything

Well that's a new one.

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What's a good mid-end CPU to play this game with? Planning on getting myself a new rig next year for current gen gaming (still using a phenom x4 from half a decade ago) but i don't want to spend that much either

>>161703381
you got a toaster bro

>>161703482

My 6350 just werks, I get spiffy framerates all the time.

But I'm also waiting for Zen to upgrade. I wanna play and record at the same time. Hopefully it'll be worth the hype.

>>161700914
>>161701894
>>161701968
final bump ;_;


The game was fun the 20 mins I played.

>Gewehr M95 Infantry
>'Assist Count As Kill' x 30

What did the game mean by this?

>>161703552
I've got a toaster because of a glitch?

>>161703725
I use the m95 Infantry a ton, my stats would be so shit without that addition.

>>161703854
yeah

my shit powers through the bugs

>>161703617
>>161703617
>FX6350
That's the minimum requirement tho innit? I wanted to aim for something slightly more higher so that i could keep using the build for a couple more years after i purchased it - Think i'll try looking at some of those updated /g/ purchase advice graphs or something

>unlock mini-grenades
>you get two
>run around throwing infinite grenades into objectives as support all round

Nearly have the perfect meme kit

>>161704936

Is it? Seems smooth as butter to me, but I also enjoy the benefits of a modest overclock.

/g/ gives good advice, logicalincrements.com is a great guide for PC building, but be sure to read its disclaimer. You can substitute parts including CPU/GPU if you want, or swap tiers around depending on your needs. PCPartpicker helps too

>>161704936
>>161705264
I should also mention that implying the 6350 a mid-tier CPU at this point is erroneous (it was like $200 when I bought it, $150 now), just pointing out that anything better than that should run BF1 just fine, but if you want a little bit of futureproofing then you'll be aiming somewhat above that anyways.

I judt learned that there is a glitch that allows you to mix ywo different classes.
For example you can be a medic with the memetini.
Or a support with both ammo and health packs

>>161706727
you kinda need a mouse macro to pull it off reliably though. it's not as easy at the bf4 one

https://youtu.be/QpVms9xII_Q

DICE better nerf that fucking model 10 before even thinking about hardcore. As well as limiting the range and direction on reverse gunners for the attack/bomber planes. Fucking overpowered bullshit.

>>161707536

>having true class freedom and not having to stick to DICE's arbitrary 4-class system (god forbid you want to use an SMG as a medic, fuck you) is considered a bug

I could die from this irony

The only antidote is a decent fucking patch

>>161707536
What a fag. The classes are fine as is.

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how many of you like grenade spamming with the support class

>>161707962
but that's exactly what a bug is - a software flaw that causes it to behave in a way unintended by the creator

dice does not intend to have true class freedom in bf, therefore the ability to do so is a bug

>buy tank hunter attack plane
>don't realize what 37mm HE means untill I see an ammo counter after launching
>turn enemy plane into instant fireball
Should have saved the footage.

>>161710539
wat

isn't it a 3 shot kill to planes

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>>161702709
not him but here you go, don't see any reason why it wouldnt be possible

>>161711973
3 shots with the tank main gun? No, one to the fuselage is a dead plane.

>>161712257
not the tank main gun but the gun on the tank hunter plane

i was pretty sure it was oneshot in the beta but dice nerfed it on release

>>161708569
>0 grenade headshots

Fukkin scrub

>>161665917
but that's wrong
FREE used to play squad rush against each other on Bf3

neo-bfg on the other hand, I remember someone getting kicked from BFG that later on went to play with ptc

It true they turned Battlefield into an unbalanced casual shoot em up?

4 had pretty good balance but I hear 1 is a mess.

will the heavy tank ever be needed? Will any version of the light tank other than the cheese nigger auto cannon package be useful?

>>161712436
Well, it was a one shot yesterday.

>>161713443
the heavy tank is far safer than any tank variant since it's virtually impossible to immobilise it. it is superior to the landship because the driver has the good weapons and so it can't be neutered via weapon disables unlike the landship.

>>161661729
this is with an overclocked i7 remember. CPU is almost as important as GPU on 64p servers i'd say.

>>161714445
Meant to say nerfed or needed. The short is not only spawns people everywhere but also has the strongest armor and the strongest gun controlled by its driver

>>161715130
you english is shit

>>161713150
>FREE

literally who

>>161716639
the gods themselves
the watchful protectors
the hero this thread deserved after Bf4

>>161716662
sounds like a bunch of anime losers

>>161716769
only heard stories here
they sound pretty cool

does anyone else get disconnected when the battlepack receivers are shown? It happens all the damn time to me.

>>161716662
>>161713150

>tfw in [FREE] and [BFG] platoons still
>no idea what the actual thing was between FREE and BFG
>just wanted to play BF with meme-kings

Honestly I thought the whole FREE/BFG rivalry was just memes.. Half the BFG guys on my friend list are or were in FREE too.

>>161702087
using gas to cover a charge is incredibly stupid

smoke is just more useful because it doesn't damage yourself

>>161703482
>>161704936
FX8350 wraith is recommended spec

if you're only getting it next year, forget about asking now, zen, kaby lake, vega, pascal shrinks are going to drop so nobody can tell you what will be best now

>>161687315
Scrap.

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>tfw 64 player operations

It honestly feels like they pad these games out with shitters who have no idea what they're doing.

>>161671938
I know that feel when I play assault all my kit does is make the tanks fuck off for like 10 seconds and they're back. Hurting the tank barley gives any score and you're risking your life and position and being a possible squad spawn just so you can get instagibbed and the tanks heal fast as FUCK making anything but a salvo of various combined AT measures from a squad viable. This is why tanks go unchecked. I miss helis and like one anon said most planes don't bother with tanks and just do dogfights and occasionally kill infantry with no impact really.

>>161722647
the thing is though that if you choose the anti-tank setup for your plane, you are defenseless against planes & weak against infantry

i always have the ground support setup but the main gun only does ~20 damage, unlike in battlefield 3 where you had machine gun for infantry + air & rocket pods for tanks

>play support
>use the Lewis low weight since its the only support gun I have that feels good besides the BAR and the low mag count is not cutting it
>sinai point C
>see a scout trying to set up so his squad mates can get C
>at a range where I can clearly see his class and all not that far away
>shoot him
>enemy hit +16
>mfw he just raped me with the m1911 after

Can anyone recommend me a LMG all of them seem to just lack firepower aside from the bar.

>>161723780
antitank plane can kill other planes, it's harder but it's possible

also not so effective against inf but a good hit will kill

I'm actually starting to think it's too good at these things

>>161724213
press z

support is a defensive class, you're either covering a spot you know enemies will come from or covering teammates in an attack from behind them

>>161724565
it can but it's a lot shittier than the gun and against fighters who are actively dodging you it's basically imposible

grount support is the best plane for 90% of situations because it's so versatile

>>161724667
if you get in a turning fight and come inside their turning circle you can often get a good no-effort hit at close range as they pass in front of you

>>161724639
I get what you are trying to say but at the end of the day this is a FPS game. Its not like I was trying to engage him from WAY outside of my range pressing spot and just hoping for something doesn't sound like the right thing to do. Or did they really design this class as a ammo dispenser?

-LMGs are weak and even with the bipod their tkk is high
-kit aside from ammo is lacking especially the mortars
-suppression even with the buff is lame since the lmgs over heat
-tap fire is redundant since you gain accuracy while firing

all of this seems counterintuitive honestly

>>161724920
>did they really design this class as a ammo dispenser?

no they designed it as a support, not run and gun call of duty every gun is the same

you can get lots of kills if you play it right, just git gud

the only problem is most of the maps are just shotgun/assmatico clusterfucks or sniperfests

St. Quentin's scar is basically the only map i enjoy

>>161725147
>run and gun
>support

Even if I did try that shit I would not get a single kill. Most of the time I don't even engage until I get my bipod up and im settled looking down a choke, However this cannot be the only way to perform with a LMG. Sometimes you have to engage and all I asked if there was a gun to help me out in the scenario I was in. The assumptions and all are alright but you seem like you have an idea. Would you mind sharing tips if you do have one instead of assuming how I play?

>>161725441
I agree the maps seem to cater to an extreme unless you really limit yourself.

>>161725441
I think quentin, Sinai and fao are all pretty good. honorable mention to Armiens for being a non-shit seine

>Mfw I try and use flares as scout pretty much the whole match
>mfw I have to spam "Request Ammo" billions of times before some niggersupport replenishes my flares.

Flares are too fucking good and I'm always shilling them in teamchat.

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>>161726551
Are they the best source of points to level up the class? I'm saving it for last till I unlock the Hellriegel.
>tfw still level 6 on Assault

>>161726957
If you fire one on a contested objectives, they rake up points fast.

Even when not considering that, they are pretty much a wallhack that damages people. They're great.

>>161726957
>levelling up one class at a time
>autism

unlocks were a mistake

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>>161677407
Cei is love.

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>defense map with bunkers
>retards keep opening the doors
>attack just rushes in and takes the bunker

>>161728309

>10 to 11 for medic

What did they mean by this? More ranks and weapons in DLC?

>>161703278
but we talking bf1 tho

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>>161728491
all classes retain the progress meter when you go past rank 10

>>161728945
Thats what I mean. If the ranks stopped at 10,they would show RANK 10 or something similar. Why would they show the progress bar to 11 if it wouldn't be added at a later date?

Secrets weapons of WW1 expansions when?

>>161729740
hey you MIGHT be onto something here, personally i think it is insane to believe the classranks would go on past 10 in any of the upcoming 4DLCs and unlock new weapons maybe or even gadgets ...
BUT, but after all its DICE right, lord knows what weird shit they come up with

>>161729740
i had 99 service stars on assault & attack helis in bf3 and the progress bar was still like that

What is your opinion on AA? I think there are far too many on some maps that make it damn near impossible to fly. I'm not an airchav by any means, but it's definitely not fun to want to fly every once in a while and have 3 AAs trained on you.

>>161730639
3 AAs and 2 fighters/ground attacks*

>>161730639
the problems just that there are people on the AA at any given time. they will sit in their spawn AA while their basepoint is getting backcapped and dont care or notice. ive seen the same guy spend 1000 tickets in the base AA, idk whats wrong with people

>>161730639
Me? I use it as Anti-Infantry and Anti-Vehicle gun xD

When you join a game late and your team is loosing. Does that count as a loss?

>>161730935
I can definitely see why they're there for operations, but I don't see the point of the majority of them spawning on conquest. The base ones make sense and they've pretty much been in every battlefield game since I can remember, but you needed them to prevent base raping from choppers and whatnot.

>>161731179
yes

Lads I always get part disabled when taking down the Zeppelin but how do I disable it's engine? Need it for the codex

>>161730639
Was completely broken, is still incredibly strong
Might be okay for now but as soon as people stop being retarded and some semi-organized gameplay starts to emerge planes will just fucking die because they'll get crossfired by AA, armour and small arms with nothing much to do about it

>>161732250
shoot the engine parts

protip: they're in the middle part of the zeppelin

>>161732250
These two little pods next to each other between the two gunner pods are the engines

>>161732324
>>161732378
Much appreciated m8s

>>161732289
just nerf the AA range, it's fucking ridiculous how in st. quentin's scar an Aa faggot from the A flag can shoot my plane that is between E and F

>>161733079
Yeah, range seems to be the biggest issue, a single camp just denies too much of a given map

>>161732289
t. airchav who wishes he could get 70 free kills again with no counter or challenge like in bf2

the nerf has made AA borderline useless, it was fine the way it was

>>161734089
I never played any kind of air before this one, and I played since BF2
You must be obscenely bad to call AA borderline useless

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>yfw

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Is there a single player version of the BFone multiplayer maps? Like where I can fight bots?

I wanna get used to the maps before I play with my bro.

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>>161700914
>>161703669
Day 3, this shit is still going on.

I fucking hate Origins, I want to play the fucking game. I'm starting to get mad.

>>161734089
t. probably uses assault + shotgun solely

the Cei-Rigotti is the final redpill

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>>161734874
hahahahahahahahahah what is this 2002? you think they'd include something like that in the actual year that it is currently? how can they sell battlefield 2 if you could play battlefield 1 forever by yourself?

>>161735752
stupid anime

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>>161735743
What sights does it has again? Excuse me if this is a dumb question but haven't had a good sleep in 48 hours.

>>161735134
>day 3
>starting to get mad
I would've trashed it and began playing another game 3 days ago

>>161736360
The problem is I can't refund the game, it's been to long. So I either play this or I'm out $50. They are really fucking this up. They keep saying it's most likely my internet connection, which it's not because I was playing the game for 30 mins with zero problems before the accounts getting linked.

>>161735752
Dammit. Fucking EA. Are the single player missions any good? I tried the Gallipoli one, but I keep getting turk'd.

>>161736880
they're alright but replay value isn't great, and they teach you some bad habits sometimes

Whats the song that plays at the end of the first war story, just before the artillery? I can't seem to find it.

>>161721396
>Not liking large scale battles
shit opinion =/= shit game

>>161737435
thats not even his point tho

>>161736814
The last 2 times EA has called, I pick up the phone and they don't say anything just silence. THANKS FOR WASTING EVEN MORE OF MY TIME ASSHOLES.

>>161737435
64 players clustering around 2-3 points that are close together isn't large scale, it's just shit

40 is much more appropriate for the mode, 64 is fine for conquest

>>161736948
>and they teach you some bad habits sometimes
What habits are bad? I'm terrible at fps

>>161738481
I just remember the controls and tactics for the airplane mission being completely different from the mp, mainly that

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The guy on the phone (who didn't speak English) said there was nothing he could do for me. Everything looks fine on my Origins.

Thanks EA, you've cemented why I'll never buy from you again.

>>161739083
if you can't play the game at least get a refund, assuming you live in a first world country

>>161739239
GameStop. That's all I have to say. My boyfriend bought me the game when it was on-sale for $50 and it being opened means I'll get $15 store credit.

How can EA fuck my account up like this? It was working before just fine.

>>161739083

>Origins

Are you a trailer trash by any chance.

>>161737974
48p rush was the best so i assume it holds true for operations

>>161739351
no fags allowed on origin

>>161739979
rush is a 24 player mode tops