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Airship Edition

Last thread: >>161242503

>Weapon and stats:
http://symthic.com/bf1-stats
Symthic's already started their metacrafting autism

>Emblem stealing website for uncreative babbies: http://emblemsbf.com/

FAQ:
Q: Is BF4 dead?
A: Yes, BF1 now.

Q: Where are the BF1 Platoons?
A: The platoon feature (tm) isn't in yet for bf1, we'll post the info when its out.

Q: Which VOIP Do I join?
A: Yuropoors will be more likely to find people on the Discord. Mumble seems to attract NA players. Use whichever you like.

Mumble server (VOIP and Text)
wevidyanow.com
port: 64738

Mumble download (Snapshot version is more stable and has more features)
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Discord
https://discord.gg/TK8snEj
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Reminder that if you use ammo crates or medical crates, your mother will be raped by packs of pitbulls.

Use the packs.
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>>161461719
I've only just started playing so haven't unlocked the boxes, what's the difference?
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>>161461507
Worst behemoth ever.

>Weak as shit armament
which any decent sniper can pick off the gunners.
>Weak as shit armor
Any competent team can destroy one in minutes if they use AA
>Moves like a slug

Fuck the airship.
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why is there an opinion to lock your squads? I've been in this situation multiple times where I have to create my own solo squad because one is full and the other is locked at 3/4. all this feature does is handicap your own team having to place w/o squad spawns.
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>>161461803
Pouches can be used on the run and are a full heal/resupply as long as you don't take a hit for the duration, you have to stay in the aoe of the boxes for a while to get the same effect.
Boxes can be useful for bunker defenses or the like when you need to get a whole bunch of people in a small area, but pouches are better for general use.
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>>161461918
pretty sure u dont need to stand in them
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>>161462045
you do if you want grenades
it tops off your ammo in like 3 seconds, but grenades take 15 for singles 30 for doubles

pouches refill all your grenades after a 10 second delay after you pick it up
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>people say the bar telescope is an assault rifle
>has a sniper scope
>bipod, not a front grip

I think I've been had
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>>161461719
They were pretty shit in bf4 but I really love them in this game
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I got the code for the emblem but this keeps happening. What am I doing wrong?

Playing on one atm
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>>161462908
you don't need to stand next to an ammo crate like an idiot for the entire duration to get your nades back

look at your grenade count, if it's greyed out that means you got your grenade refill and can move on, the game will give it to you after a delay

i sometimes pick ammo crate + ammo pouch so i can use the crate to keep my nade spam up and use the pouch to feed friendly assaults instead. it's kind of a waste to use ammo pouches on yourself just for nade spam since they have cooldowns and could be used to give assaults their at gadgets back instantly instead
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>>161463226
>taking a picture of your screen
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>>161463226
reported
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>>161463321
What's the problem with that?

I got my phone. I only turned the computer on because you can't import emblem codes on the phone
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>>161462969
it's the only bar variant that doesn't require you to use the shitty iron sights which have tons of visual recoil
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>>161463354
What the f***** going on on this board
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>>161461847
>see locked squad with 2 hillniggers
>squad boost active
These people are worse than the Kaiser
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>>161461918
Locked squads and party chat kills this game
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>>161461847
Locked squads and party chat kills this game
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>>161461843
git gud, kill the AA, stay at a decent distance from the AA, rain death from above all day long, win games
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>>161464790
that all depends on having a competent team. You can at least do something with the other two even if they are stupid.
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>>161461847
game is better and more fun without squad spawns
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>>161465112
>click on A
>spawn 300 yards away at B

Fuck that
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>>161465260
no, fuck you. the game finally has mostly solved flag capping being spawncamping simulator and you complain?
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>>161465112
thats just wrong on so many levels i can smell the lone wolf all the way from here
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>>161465303
>spawn on squad
>they're out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere exposed
>they're completely surrounded/on fire/in a gas cloud/currently being shot/blown up
>die

>spawn on flag
>you're at a safe distance from any enemies
>can take your time picking them off and moving up
>make a difference
>cap flag
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>>161465112
yeah great fun while you're the only one who cant squad spawn. it puts you and in turn your team at a huge disadvantage. I see zero benefit from locking squads and have no idea why it's even a thing.
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>>161465448
it's almost like you should have the option to do either or...
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>>161461719
>spamming pouches when you could be laying down suppressive fire

first post worst post
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>>161465448
thats an argument for non retarded teammates or you not chosing correctly wether to spawn squad or point but hardly against the system itself
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>>161465112
>kill a guy
>reload
>his buddy spawns in the second I hit R
>die

>>161465553
>suppressive fire

>Being sniper bait
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>>161465553
>if you prone and wanna resupply yourself the pouch flies out of range

agony
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>>161461843
tbqh the destroyer is worse
or at least the people who use it are worse
every single match I just cuddle up to the far side of the hull in a torpedo boat and nuke it for the 3 or so mins it takes for it to sink

So far only one of 20 sunk ships has had someone noticed and get on the close defense guns, which don't even do anything if you're right against the hull.

Not that the train gets away with much. So long as the winning team knows that anti-tank mines exist it's fucked the moment it enters the map.
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>>161465494
it puts you and in turn your team at a huge *advantage

yes I agree, not giving free kills out is a much better way to win
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>>161466174
you're trolling right? because that reasoning is just so bad.
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>>161466168
>winning a round early, up 300 to 150
>check the map
>1/4 of the train track already covered in mines
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>>161466226
i think hes the one who thinks 4chan is for making people mad exlusively
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Daily Reminder, kids.

Don't take the plane/tank/behemoth seats away from the bros, if you suck utterly with them. Just go do your job and be canon fodder.
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>>161466241
>train gunner starts shooting mines
>dance around on the track
>they stop shooting the mines to shoot at you
>driver runs over mines
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>>161466292
Daily Reminder, kids.

Don't use commas, if you suck utterly with them.
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>>161466427
>see idiot dancing around tracks
>switch to him asap and kill his sorry ass
>go back to kill mines
>he rages in the chat and then leaves the game
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wow this new battlefield 3 expansion pack looks great, its a shame the bf4 map pack didnt work for a year and bf3s other expansion was lacking in content but this new expansion sure plays well for its low low price of $100
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>>161466552
too bad you have to have windows vista service pack 7 to use dx12
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>>161466532
The young man’s name -- Albert Einstein.
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>>161461507
when they make bf1944 i hope they finally add navel back in with the ability to walk smoothly on moving vehicles again.
but knowing ea i cant help to be dissapointed knowing that it will just be an overpriced bf1 reskin with the behemoth memes and power pick ups
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>>161466906
>power pickups
The whole sentry concept is so fucking stupid.
At least cock-blocking them with assault rockets is fun.
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>>161466552
>that fov
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>>161465296
Yeah and then it spawns you in the middle of enemies anyway. Fuck this retarded spawning system. You can camp spawn points either way.
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>>161466906
Only hope in modders remastering BF1942 on say CryEngine or Unreal Engine. I have given up hope on a good BF game after BF3 because all it is now is a watered down casual piece of shit CoD clone with vehicles.
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>>161467892
>bf3 wasnt a casual game
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>>161468040
Where did I say that smart guy.
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>>161468290
if anything past bf3 is "watered down casual piece of shit COD clone" it implies you dont think that about bf3
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>>161468040
BF3 was the second best of the series
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>>161468354
I dont see why you would interpret it like that but Ill lay it out again: after BF3 which was a piece of shit too.
>>161468442
>mfw
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the Cei-Rigotti is the final redpill
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>>161468474
i dont interpret it like that its what you said implicitly
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>>161468480
>not the m1903 experimental

Hi Dualshockers!
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>>161468773
no it could also be read
>after [seeing what they did to] bf3
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>>161468903
Not him, but then you could just have said "everything since BF3 has been" instead. Or "starting since BF3, everything has been."
Semantics are the most fun thing you can argue about online.
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>>161469035
Especially on 4cheng
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>Join game
>Team immediately is getting steamrolled
>No one understands the concept of reviving, giving out ammo, or capturing the objectives
>Half the team appears to be scouts
>Everything pointed to me being better off to leave and not waste my time, but fuck it I'll stick around to see this trainwreck
>We get blown the fuck out by 400 points
>The next round it "balances" the teams
>I think, "Well, maybe now the shitters have been evenly distribut-"
>Some goon drives his jeep into my tank at full speed while I'm engaged with another tank, causing me to miss
>His car fucking pushed me like 20 feet because physics and I wound up getting AT grenaded to death
>I know for a fact the guy didn't mean to do it because I decided I had to know whether that was sheer stupidity or le trolling, so I ask him
>Apparently an Assault was getting close to him, so his strategy was to drive into me because that would solve it somehow
>We proceed to get blown the fuck out by 400 points
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>>161469212
Is it time to share those stories?
>Me and squadmate pinned down in Ballroom Blitz
>I have practically no health, he is a medic
>Doesn't heal me
>Start spamming for a medic
>He doesn't heal me
>Some guy throws a grenade at us, it lands like 15 feet away and does fuck all damage to my squady but kills me because I only had like 3 health
>"Why didn't you heal me?"
>"Calm down I was getting shot at."
>"It takes one second to throw out health and you were in the same situation I was."
>"Dude there was no time."
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>>161469339
at least he revived you right
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>>161469382
He was one of those faggots who only carries medical pouches and rifle grenades.

I seriously want to purge these fuckers. Especially supports who carry mortars and limpet charges instead of fucking ammo. Or better yet supports who do carry ammo but just never can be fucked to put any down.
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>black friday
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free vile 2016
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>>161469517
>choose between heals and revives
>drop revives

???

my grenade medic still has syringe at least
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>nobody talks about hard-line

Was it that bad?
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>>161469646
>???
You're asking for logic in some fucker who couldn't be bothered to throw a medkit down for a teammate in need?
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>>161469650
it was battlefield 3 with a police skin for $120
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>>161469650
i played the beta ? or maybe when it was free ? i cant remember but i played like a weeks worth and thats all i needed to see from it.
gunplay felt unrewarding
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>People complaining teamwork is dead because of the gameplay of BF1
Is it just me, or is this ironic? Nothing changed in the basic formula, it's just no one bothers to do anything their class should do, then complains it takes forever to hit rank 10.

If you're a medic, you fucking heal. If you're a support, you fucking resupply. If you're an assault, you fucking kill tanks. If you're a scout, you are fucking useless and have no right to bitch in the first place.

What is so hard to grasp? I don't get it. Yes EA are piles of shit, but I'll be dammed if they are the ones who fucked the teamwork in Battlefield 1.
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>>161469823
>scout
>useless
>spotting and flareguns
usless
>keeping infantry off mounted guns
>useless
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>>161469878
>anti air
>useless
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>>161469823
Might just be because the last Battlefield game I played was BC2, or because I can't remember anything worth shit, but it really does feel like people are playing more selfishly than ever.
I don't know who or what is causing it, but at least in BC2 I could get ammo or health most of the time since people seemed to happily put them down, but in BF1 I'm fucking struggling to find anyone willing to drop ammo or heals. Ammo especially, since nobody wants to play Support because they don't like the LMGs in this game and would rather ride the Assault dicktrain.
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>>161469878
>Spotting
Everyone can do that.

>Flareguns
Only work in enclosed spaces, in other words they are worthless 99.9% of the time.

>Keeping infantry off mounted guns
Anyone can do that.

Scouts are basically medics without healing and revives. The medic gets a rifle, and the Selbaster scoped is literally a sniper. I'm not denying a few scouts can be good, but they are arguably the most played class in the game and 99% of the people who play it focus on kills and that is literally it. I bet if you told them Q is how you spot it'd be news to them.
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>>161469823
if this is the average players extent of understanding of what classes should do and be played like then no wonder the servers are full of morons.
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>>161470007
the spotting scope is a wallhack unlike regular spotting
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>>161469339
>dude there was no time
Lmao
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>>161470007
you're so clueless yet you bothered to type all this
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>>161469823
>>161469878
>playing ops
>keeping points spotted with flares at all times
>osk-ing enemies as they run to the point with my infantry SMLE
>clearing buildings in my mask with trusty no. 3
>trapping the doors with incendiary bombs
>never anywhere but on the point
>meanwhile assault shitters firing rockets from the ridge
>"we need less scouts"
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>>161470052
If my "extent of understanding" was achieved by the common denominator that plays Battlefield 1 why the fuck is it impossible to find someone who is willing to give you ammo or health you cock monger?
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>>161470052
The "average player" doesn't need to know your deep meta strats and utilize their class to the max by camping a bunker and getting 40 kills as assault or lying prone and giving suppressing fire while spamming grenades as support.
If they can throw an ammo box as support, can hit a tank with rockets or grenades as assault, can put down a medkit and revive as medic, and at least try to spot or take out people camping on/in buildings as scout, then they're not a burden to their team. If you can walk up to someone and expect them to give you ammo and health if you need it, and die within 20m of a medic and get revived, then you have a good team.
If your team doesn't even do BASIC shit like this, then they have no fucking idea how to play their class.
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What FOV do you use, anons?
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>>161470134
You're doing everything your class should do, and acting like that applies to all scouts. You know damn well your average lobotomite scout is just scoped in from a hillside trying to pull off an epic headshot on some sap that isn't within 200 meters of the nearest objective.

In other words, let me break it down for you:
>Main medic
>Always heal people, I even put that before kills
>Always revive when possible
>Assault shitters say we need less medics
If what I said were true, why can no one ever find a god damn medic in this game? Simple, because even though I do all that shit when I play, it doesn't mean everyone else does. In fact, almost no one does. People play medic because of the rifle and that is fucking it.
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>>161470229
64
+5 to compensate for 16:10 hor- claustrophobia
+4 to give a little extra awareness on the side

not so high distant enemies become dots either
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>>161470104
And you're assuming people use that? Top kek.

No medic should ever use rifle grenades, but plenty do. My point is just because you do X doesn't mean your teammates aren't doing Y. You're the type of fucking guy who says shit like
>"I knew a cool black dude in high school, so that means all the crime statics are bullshit."
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>>161470319
this is too accurate. i hate fuckers playing a legitimately fun class that cant do the basic functions.
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>>161470459
>"I knew a cool black dude in high school, so that means all the crime statics are bullshit."
I've only been in 3 gang shootouts so it's not as bad as it seems. Stop believing everything the nazi-run media tells you.
t. German sniper
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>>161470229
90
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>>161470227
well sure but they can throw you ammo and health all they want if they rush with every player from point to point like a little league soccer team and only take 1 of the 4 lanes to the next point or even leave the cap already when enemies are indicated or common sense tells ya that one squad is still around its still gonna make for an unsatysfying game
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>>161470662
It would still be better than the current scenario where they do the exact same thing but don't throw you any ammo or health.
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>>161470586
>90 vertical
>120 horizontal
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>>161470717
idk man it just feels like people dont have common sense anymore or havent got the mindset to figure shit out when theyre new. i blame streaming
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>>161470783
>implying anything wrong with 120 hoz
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>>161471278
on a triple monitor setup no

otherwise kys
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>>161467198
What fov do you guys use?
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>>161471313
jokes on you
I use a standing desk and my screen is maybe 15cm from my face
120 seems completely natural
my eyes hurt
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>>161461918
I've healed myself (and on very very rare occasions, actually had a medic heal me instead of running by and ignoring me) with pouches and it always takes multiple ones for a full heal.
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>>161472340
I've literally healed myself from 1 hp to full with a single pouch, so I don't know what to tell you.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>only 6 hardcore servers up that have people in them
>all European
explains a lot
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did you guys know there are 200% bullet dmg servers but minimap and spotting is turned on ? like how shit can ya be
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>>161472721
>hardcore
If I wanted that I would play RO.
Friendly fire on with the Battefield community is the last thing I could want.
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1.8x headshot multiplier was a mistake.
Give me back my revolver 1SHS.
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why oh why can't I change around my classes inbetween games?
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>mfw people still cant pronounce weapon names properly if its more complicated than M16A3
You idiots really have the brainpower of a nigger.
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Is anyone else really selective about the skins they don't scrap? I've scrapped 90% of my battlepack drops so far. Maybe it's just autism but most skins look like gaudy shit to me desu.
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>>161473532
only thing ive not scrapped is the legendary hellriegel, camo m98, bloodsmeared mp18, ruff rider?, the foch, mg15 camo, golden c96 and the swede.
but i might scrap those 2 handguns, ive just kept em cuz they be golden
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>>161473703
Rough rider is shit
Can hardly tell the difference
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>dont play bf1 for about a week
>come back to revision 6
>meh, I want that legendary for the mle 1903 tho
>have enough scrap for 3 superiors
>sweeper, sweeper, sweeper
>ok
>scrap em and ive got enough for one more superior
>sweeper

nice system you swedish cuck fuck boys, They honestly shouldve just left weapon cosmetics out if this is the best idea they came up wtih
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>>161473703
>Have 34 hours in the game so far
>Still not one fucking camo for a gun I use
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>>161473737
thats the point, i dont want some flashy golden shit
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>>161463529
>4chan

I mean...
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>>161468786
>basically a sweeper/auto extended
>worse falloff than both

anonthe 40 round stick mag is pretty aight though
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FUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>161473973
That's understandable but that doesn't mean it has to look exactly the same as the default skin
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>>161474556
Just make the sniper-weapons unlock at rank 7-9 and you've instantly taken care of every new guy being a hillnigger. Make the sniper shield unlock that late too. It might cause less people to play recon since they suck at bolt-action rifles but that's hardly a bad thing for the team.
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>>161473835
The only camo I have for a gun I actually use is the Arditti. Granted it looks nice but for a legendary you can hardly tell the difference in actual gameplay, considering the pistol is a little spammy popper used mostly for finishing people off up close.
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>>161472891
>hype for hardcore
>half of my deaths every round are teamkills
>gets to the point where the player base has made the preset literally unplayable due to stupidity
>take a break out of frustration
>friend gets the game, first bf since bf3
>playing core, just letting him get his sea legs back in some tdm
>pay attention to how much teammates shoot me even with a constant friendly indicator
>a fucking lot

I dont know if its cod spillover or what but jesus fucking christ it was never this bad before

>>161473002
>see an AT barrel sticking out over a ledge above the stairs im on
>creep up stairs and ventilate his skull with good ol .44 american point blank
>he needs another

honestly I think any headshot should be an instakill. I mean you have to shoot somone in the head twice with medic rifles, 3 times with lmg/smg, and even the strongest pistols dont 1SHS in their sweetspot. fuckin ridiculous
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>>161474918
>any headshot should be an instant kill

casuals pls go and stay go
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>>161474556
god help us all

>>161474895
shouldve kept the arditti. didnt look like anything but just the name was cool from the campaign story

>>161474760
i honestly think gameplay would benefit from medics having no scopes and scouts only a couple 3,4x but thatll never ever happen so i have to play RO2 if i want that kinda gameplay
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>>161474971
>wanting a games damage mechanics to make sense around human anatomy

yeh I guess thats too much to ask for. I'll go back to penguin club
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>>161475135
go play arma if you want muh realism
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>>161475135
https://youtu.be/72W8WrnGX_s
>>161475191
Fuck off faggot one shot headshots with revolvers were in the previous games, why stop now?
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>play support
>shoot enemy
>"+35 ENEMY HIT"
>they panic jump around spray me and I'm dead
Nice, might as well run around with my pistol instead.
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>>161475286
>supportnigger running and gunning
>surprised he loses straight fights
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>>161475271
>SoS
Nothing was more fun than getting in a tank and crashing a server packed full of people by destroying the building
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>tfw all the sinai only Eu servers are ded
>tfw burgers have at least 2
>tfw i dont want to play there cuz i will fuck up the game with my shitty ping
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admin tools when ?
there need to be more community servers
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>one squadmate spends the match plonking himself down at a certain spot and going afk, just acting as a spawn-point
>the other squadmate gives away our tank like a retard
>it's the only squad with room

For every round where you have fun running from objective to objective with a squad who knows their shit you always get four of these.
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>Scrap all my shit for a few battlepacks
>Unbox
>Martini Henry
>Sweet, I don't play sniper. Scrap.
>Unbox
>Martini Henry
>Scrap, unbox
>Martini Henry
>Scrap, unbox
>Pistol
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Well I figured out a way to win every fucking time on Amiens.
>Just fucking around, minding my own business
>Realize we have no tanks and the enemy team always has one
>What the fuck
>Turns out some cheeky Assault guy was sneaking behind our lines and putting mines on the road right in front of the tank spawn
>Even after several people on my team pointed out that that was happening, the retards kept driving into them EVERY time
>Decide to do this the next game I play on Amiens
>It works
Jesus Christ people are so oblivious.
>>
>open box
>swede legendary skin
>never use that postol
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>>161476283
>cap F
>leave some mines before the backcappers arrive
>free points

the only downside is most of the time theres only the driver in it.
i always get the tanks on amiens tho, theres just certain spots where they think theyre being sneaky and its too easy. if they become smarter i use smoke grenades
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>rush on monte grappa
>get to second-to-last stage
>everyone on the team decides to be a hillnigger instead of trying to get across the open space and actually win the game

Every fucking time.
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>>161475271
>why fix balance problems with previous versions?
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>>161475191
its not muh realism. I've long since given up on that in bf. I just think headshots should be uniform and if one weapon class has the capability to 1shs as well as 1hko on sweetspots, that other weapons should atleast have the 1shs capabilty
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I want to be able to have both the spot and the flash flares. Give me the ability to switch between ammo with them.
>>
Getting to the point where you need to have the best TTK weapons or you lose all fights
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>>161476891
Because if they wanted to "fix" it they would have done it in the second installment or even just patch it out
It's not a balance fix, dumbass
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>>161464671
>party chat kills this game

Fucking this. What were they thinking?

>team-based game
>let's remove the ability to communicate to your team!

Brilliant engineering DICE you geniuses
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>>161477821
Automemeico or Model 10

Can't think of the meme weapons for the other classes because they're actually balanced
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>>161478045
Medics with Mondragon Sniper
Supports lol
Martini Spaghetti Infantry
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>>161471479

Your FOV should be at least 90

Too high and you get the fisheye effect from the projection, but I generally set it as high as it can go in games, barring something obscene like 120+
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>>161478137
The only good supp weapon is the BAR which is rich because its not a fucking LMG.

This game is such a fucking expansion its not even funny
>no universal primaries
>no attachments
Unbelievable. They released Battlefield Hardline three times in a row.

Battlefield Hardline
Battlefield Hardline: Star Wars edition
Battlefield Hardline: Bolt actions and bi-planes edition

They should've just done WW2 or Vietnam again so they could actually add shit.
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>>161478353
>no universal primaries

but that's a good thing, keeps classes within their roles
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>>161478397
Meanwhile classes like support are shit and anybody playing Assault uses the automatico.

I mean why not just have shotguns as the universal primaries and that's it
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>>161478495
>support is shit

what did he mean by this
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>>161478552
>what did he mean by this
>support isn't shit
elaborate
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>>161478625
press z

shotguns on everyone would make everyone assaults, assaults kill people up close, that's why they have shotguns
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>>161478664
>press z
>I don't play support
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>>161475286
>i cant aim
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>>161478910
>I don't play support as if it was assault

got me there
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>domination server dies on sinai
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why cant there be random gusts of wind that blow away gass grenades
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>>161479375
Because fuck you hillnigger.
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>trying to get 20 rifle grenade kills
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>>161479375
that'd be pretty great actually, if the weather affected gas
>throw gas in a storm
>comes right back in your face

:^)
>>
>throw smoke grenade at fire
>fire doesnt go out
WOOOOOOOOOW
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>>161479725
Why would it?
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>tfw the memetini looks good
>tfw i tried to be a hillnigger
>10 mins in and i went back to my plane
How can people enjoy this damn class?
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>>161480217
Martini Henry isnt even a sniper
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>>161480217
Of course a useless airchav would be so stupid as to assume the memetini is for hillniggering.
>>
are they going to fix the server browser this year?
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>>161480924
didnt know it was broken
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>>161478353
>BF 1: Bolt actions and biplanes
>Meanwhile Selbslader and MP18's *everywhere*.

You see, if they actually wanted to be super hardcore about the time period as opposed to maximizing fun, they'd probably do something like this:

>Classes redesigned, faction specific, most with iron-sight bolts.
>for a *64* player German team, what would be fairly reasonable would be to have 3 SMG's, 2 semi-automatic rifles, 2 flamethrowers, 2 anti-tank rifles, 5 LMG's, and 4 scoped bolts, while the rest of the teams primary, if they don't control a vehicle is an iron sight Gewehr 98.
>Classes set up something like this, with standard equipment across most being Bolt, pistol, grenade, melee.
>Assault: gadgets: smoke, explosives.
>Scout: gadgets: Binoculars, flare, Pidgeon (which will relay coordinates to the newly created TL which will be described forthcoming)
>Medic: Obvious
>support: gadgets: ammunition, tripwire.
>soldier class: gadget: a non-iron sight bolt primary.
>Tl: guy who relays in offmap assets.
>Vehicle class: obvious.

Other changes include nerfing, but making airplanes more prevalent and mostly contests between observation planes and fighters, changing the zeppelin into a high flying UAV that only a specifically equipped fighter plane can readily take down, and shifting chemical weapons into a core, multifaceted mechanic such that conquest maps end up looking like the Nova 6 map from black ops 2, 20 minutes in.
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>>161481037
again, we all enjoy RO2 but this will never happen in this franchise
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>no night maps

why
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>>161481000
it is when i tried to use the name filter.

say you want to see what 24/7 servers there are. you type "24/7" in the name search field and it shows 50 servers with 24/7 in the title. except now it filter for the maps you have select or the region so you get servers from all over the world. not to mention it will only list 50 and tell you to narrow down your search criteria
>>
>offical tweet saying no new BF for a couple of years
>tfw they release badcompany 3 without the battlefield prefix
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>>161481352
a new battlefield will come out in 2018 probably. 2017 will probably have battlefront 2
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>>161481352
I hope BF1944 in 2018 is just Bad Company 3 in a WWII setting

Plane-free WWII sounds good
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IN YOUR OWN WORDS
what would the difference be between a bad company 3 or battlefield 5?
Which would you prefer to see?
Most importantly, why?
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>we will have to wait till 2020? to get 2143
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>>161481696
Bad Company 3 because for some reason teamplay actually happens in those games.
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>>161481667
>Plane-free WWII sounds good
>>
>oh you want to quit? Well let's just wait until you've finished loading the new map. Maybe you'll end up wanting to play another round. ;^)
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>>161481909
>they will never make 2143
Feels bad man.
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>>161482117
at least your hopes didnt get shit on like they did with 1943
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>>161481696
bad company 3 would be more console shit

hopefully battlefield 5 would have a real conquest mode with spawn cycles and reinforcement tickets and real all aspect combined arms with battleships, artillery, carriers, large bombers and everything, not just a few small boats and a "behemoth" you can't even spawn from
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>>161481206
>>161481351
i wish the same and i actually think it would greatly contribute to the gameplay "flow" if you know what im tryin to say. just with these restrictions on classes and arsenal the pace of the game just naturally develops towards little more strategic playing.
but oh boy how quickly would kids refund the game if they found out all the scout slots were occupied already or theres only 2 rifles for their faction or something
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>>161481352
>>161481696
>>161481931
i dont mean to crush your hopes,but do you really have any real hope for bad company 3 being good if the made it?

the people that made bad company 2 are probably long gone so what is left is a bunch of people trying to analyze what made it so liked, but probably failing.
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>>161482349
the only thing that made bc2 liked was the lack of jets and the maps
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>>161483109
and the sound design
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The MG15 Supressive is love!
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How the fuck are battlepack drops even determined?
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>>161483109
>liked for
>lack of gameplay features
>shit maps
>>161483221
>and shit sound design
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>>161483461
sometimes you get one sometimes you dont2
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>>161483313
Low Weight is better
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>>161483461
by dice
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>>161481097
because your only light source would be scout flares

night is interesting in bf3/4 because of all the NV/thermal sights and tacticool flashlight attachments
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>>161483895
that would be amazing
scouts would have a purpose
>>
How are you supposed to receive the battlefest mp18 skin, battlelog?
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>>161484325
>that would be amazing, wookies would still contribute nothing
ftfy
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>>161478625
>tries to play support in any other capacity besides a bipoded resupply depot that sometimes blows shit up with limpets
>supports bad

come on now

until lmgs get a 3-5 damage per bullet buff and another decrease in overall accuracy gain time, they will never really shine outside of mowing people down off a bipod. As they are now theyre much better than at launch, but that being said, I know that half the toe to toe firefights I win at mid range are due to the suppression buff in the last patch
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>>161484558
let me know if you find out i havent received mp18 or the dogtag and i didnt see anyrhing in battlelog
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planes have been a negative addition to every battlefield game excluding 1942
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>>161483768
this

although, if the suppressive had iron sight options...
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>>161483768
monte grappa tho

>>161484661
how do you all think the class itself is useless, its the retarded players not the kit
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>>161483768
>smaller magazine
>less accurate

nope
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>>161484934
I'm saying that on a night map where flares were the only way to see, all 15 scouts on your team would still not use them because 99% of all scouts are retarded.
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>>161485042
>less accurate
wrong
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>>161483768
That's what I usually use. But this one has proven itself very useful in Monte Grappa.
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>>161484856
what did he mean by this?
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>>161485159
he meant that planes have been a negative addition to every battlefield except 1942

fuck cant you read?
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MISTAKES INTO MIRACLES

>spawn attack plane as they got an airship
>in the middle of shooting a tank, BAIL ON ACCIDENT
>land next to the tank I was shooting, lay down, and start to fucking wrench it
>3 damage by 3 damage it unravels and I'm prone under it thinking

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

>GUNNER STEPS OUT
KILL HIM WITH DUMB PILOT PISTOL
>WRENCH WRENCH WRENCH
THE TANK REPAIRS
>WRENCH WRENCH

>TANK DRIVER POPS OUT
MURDER HIM WITH HIPFIRE FROM THAT DUMB PILOT PISTOL
>THE TANK ISN'T DEAD
>STEAL IT AND REPAIR IT
>GET 10+ KILLS IN IT AS THE GAME ENDS
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>>161486001
Nice going anon. Yesterday I terrified a lozenge tank driver so badly with AT grenades and dynamite that he got his tank lodged between rocks in the outskirts of Empire's Edge. Between the heavy fog and constant explosions, and then getting tracked he almost flipped the tank over.

I jumped on his tank and started hitting it with my hatchet and for some reason he bailed so I killed him with my pistol. Bad tank drivers are weird. Hatchets don't hurt tanks.
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>>161486001
death to all traitors who jump vehicles
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>>161486286
>Hatchets don't hurt tanks.

The pickaxe says it can hurt vehicles, but it's never actually done it. Kind of annoying that the symbol for it is a light tank, to boot.
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>>161486001

I experienced this too, except I just crashed my plane and bailed just in time.. Finding out you can do the inside-repair in tanks with the pilot-class was a nice surprise!

Also
>Dumb pilot pistol
You mean the Frommer stop auto? If so: y dumb? If not: Why aren't you using the Frommer stop auto?
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>>161486815

pickaxe only hurts light vehicles.. So the jeeps and motorcycles you can shoot the people out of anyway as they're open. The only (marginal and situational) use they have is that you can take out AA emplacements with them. And Heavy MGs I guess, but who the fuck cares about them..
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>>161486570
>death to all traitors who jump vehicles
Whenever they have an airship I always take the planes so I could get ontop of the airship

Sometimes it takes up to 5 tries
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>>161487425

At least then you typically break/crash the plane, rather than giving it to the enemy for them to buttfuck your teammates with.
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>>161487671
>>161487425
>not carefully landing on top, getting shot by the top gunner, and having it stolen that way
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If any level 10 weapons are worth it, their the sawn off shotgun and the 1911 extended. The pistol is peak aesthetics and the shotgun is a viable alternative to the auto-frommer. Play some operations and be a tankshitter/airchav today.
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>>161487996

Also Martini.
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>>161488048
>muh skill cannon

get off it man. No respect for these martini guys
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>>161487275
i have the default because i was sitting on no tickets for a while and never fly enough to warrant switching out
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>>161486570
i absolutely did not mean to bail, i meant to pull up and start a reload
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>>161488778

But it's so much fun anon.. It sounds like a fucking cannon, and then it pings after every shot. It's also not nearly as effective as the M95 imo.. I don't really get the hate it gets.

>>161489090

Get the Frommer auto m8, trust me.
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>>161488778
the martini isnt even that good
>>
>console will never get text chat
>i will never get to bully hillniggers who don't jump on caps

>>161488778
get off it dude
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>>161489850

>he can't spam 'ehehehheheheheh' in the chat after humiliating someone
>he can't tell his babby team to CAP SOME FUCKING FLAGS

suffering.
>>
>>161488778
>>161489458
>>161489540
>>161489850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
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>>161487996
>peak aesthetics
Opinion discarded
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>>161490072
Thanks I was reading these fags' conversation and was about to link it
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>>161490207
>implying anything else matters
get off it dude
dice's customization screen doesn't even show off the foregrip. sucks they don't get skins.
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>>161490472
Aesthetics > efficiency works in DS/BB
Not this
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>>161490452
Yeh I figured some people were confused. I don't know how many people even play souls as well in this general but I always get a laugh when I see a comment referencing it
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>>161490690
true. still hoping dice gets their shit together after one year like BF4. might even get that soldier customization.
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>>161491126
>might even get that soldier customization.

>implying Dice wants you to play anything besides black Germans and Brits with turbans

lmao
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>>161491037
Same, good chuckle
>>161491126
Bf4 in the end was simply great
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>>161491621
Yup. Hardline might have even done better if they never fixed BF4 and kept it alive like they did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_cfMcQfkX8
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>>161491898
reminds me of getting banned a few times for using the AT-4 in BC2
>>
>Some Support hitting my Artillery Truck with a wrench as it's about to die
>Bail
>He jacks the truck without shooting me
>Don't shoot him, but switch to AT nades and blow the truck up

One bad decision after another, quite embarassing
>>
>>161491570
>being this retarded
>>
>>161492356

Just wear your turban, anon. You can't take it off.
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>>161492290
german players are just always aids

t. german
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>>161492334
>driving the arty truck empires edge
>fortress gun shitting on E
>he hops off the gun before i can blow it up
>take the initiative and run out of the truck to get him
>he round the corner first and i eat a model 10
>drives off in the truck

Lesson learned, using the landmines as an antitheft now.
>>
controlling a horse feels like shit
>>
>>161494287
would be nice if it wasn't completely fucking random what it'll jump over and what it'll stop for ten minutes and have a little chill-out for
>>
>>161480217
>having a terrible game on empire's edge
>see 2 vehicles going at G
>take the artillery truck and drive it up to the hill overlooking C
>take out 2 tank autists who had been hiding around the fields all game
>as I'm taking out the second I can feel an assault autist hitting me from behind
>get out at 9 health
>kill 2 of them with the shitty revolver cum shotgun whatever the hell it is
>third runs up the hill and I literally leave a nade at my feet and run round the rock because I can see his autism is making him so thirsty for that kill
>kill him
>wait for a bit so he comes back and I can kill him again

So many free kills holy shit. Shame they destroyed the truck.
>>
>>161481696
BC3: Light-hearted story, same characters as BC1 & 2.

BF5: Continues the timeline from BF3 & 4 but with different characters, serious story taking place in the "real world".
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>>161494287
>>161494382
>go to run someone over
>it jumps over a speck of sand instead and you get gunned down
>ride between two pillars
>either slow down or go completely still for a second navigating the opening


The way you get slashed to death is weird as fuck as well. Sometimes I get slashed when I think the horse is like five metres off, thinking that I definitely have time to shoot him dead before he reaches me. Then when I try to slash someone it misses despite me practically bumping the horse into the guy.

It's why I just run around on the ground as cavalry unless there's a tank to do a drive-by on. It's fucking great to just walk around tossing ammo and health to everyone while tanking shots.
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>>161495164
>It's why I just run around on the ground as cavalry unless there's a tank to do a drive-by on. It's fucking great to just walk around tossing ammo and health to everyone while tanking shots.

The cavalry's health is awesome..
>A-10 shitter thinks he'll one shot me
>Doesn't
>Eats sabre

Butifel
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>>161494532
jumping just needs to be changed to manual but im assuming that wont work because theyre afraid people will get in on rooftops or some shit.
the hitbox when you get run over also still feels way off, but i guess its just riding really fast :^)
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>>161492883
>being this retarded
>>
>>161461507
>Rush
>Enemy team plants on the last bomb
>Watch as my entire fucking team just sit in the houses across the street getting easy kills instead of rushing in to defuse
Teamplay is absolutely dead. What the hell happened man. Supports don't give ammo, medics don't revive or heal. Everyone just wants to sit on a god damn perch and snipe in conquest.
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>>161491126
>might even get that soldier customization.
wiill never happen.
also what is it with you people and your little dress up games ? its so fucking irrelevant they need to work on gameplay not your stpid hats
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>>161495592
>see three people at a bit of distance
>take out two of them, but go down to 20 health or something
>third person is approaching
>quickly get in cover, toss down health and ammo pack and reload
>mfw he rounds the corner thinking I've only got 20 health and that it'll be easy to finish me off


I actually spent an entire Rush game alive because I could always just heal myself up in a jiffy before continuing the onslaught.
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>>161497215
i don't wanna play as a black person who's literally there bc liberalism
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>>161497273
youre not some kind of racist are you?

*stares menacingly at you*
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>>161497273
why didn't they add the french foreign legion and use that as an outlet for their fetish?
>>
>>161497273
boycot then
also the german empire had colonies
in africa
>>
>tfw no scoping castleniggers from 100m away on the back of your trusty stallion on fao fortress
>>
>>161497143
It's even worse when you're the ones attacking, and your team just hangs back to get some kills instead of planting. Hell, I was once planting a bomb and got killed. Then I saw a medic fast approaching. Thinking he'd get me up either before or after he's planted the bomb I stuck around. He didn't get me up. He didn't plant a bomb. He just ran right through looking for someone to kill.
>>
Wtf my fov got reset to 60. Absolutely disgusting.
>>
>>161461507
on the anniversary of their humiliating defeat at Caporetto
>>
Only getting 4 DLC this time GG

https://www.battlefield.com/news/article/thank-you-for-joining-battlefest
>>
Old historical wars make better games because the LACK OF technological progress brings restrictions to the game, instead of creative freedom.

This is the problem other shooters tried to stubbornly fix by going deeper into the future and having everything be scifi. We can have 3 different kind of tanks in BF1 because there was some frame of reference that explains that. In BF4 hardly anything was different from everything else because technology refines all sharp edges out and you are left with modern shit that all function the same. And if you add scifi to it, you just bloat. Nothing but bloat.

Because scifi is never actually weird, Look at fucking Planetside, and how they succeeded.
>>
>>161497273
/pol/ please go
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>>161498194
bf4 had 4 or do you count china rising
>>
>>161497423
show me a middle eastern map with germany as a side then
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>>161498695
yes
>>
>>161498695
You count it.
China Rising · Second Assault · Naval Strike · Dragon's Teeth · Final Stand
>>
>>161498840
>>161498846
but it was so terrible
>>
>>161498695
>>161499049
QUOTE THE RIGHT PEOPLE. HOLY SHIT!
>>
>>161499194
you one of those people that corrects the tiniest mistake with a new post giong "going*" because you have so little common sense that you dont expect it in others ?
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>>161498876
wew m8 don't all caps me like that
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>>161499840
>>
So what's the most high skill infantry weapon in the game?

I've become an Automatico autist recently after getting bored of scout and medic but I feel like it's only slightly better than shotgun shitters.
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>it's another nobody else shoots the fucking tank episode
>it's another nobody goes around the kill zone to the back caps episode
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>>161499049

I'll quote whoever I want, thanks.
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>>161498421
Planetside did succeed, but Planetside 2 fell straight on its face.
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>>161500172
Walking around the kill zone and into the backline alone is really weird. Depending on the layout of the map things become almost peaceful.
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>>161500649
then why is planetside dead and planetside 2 populated?
>>
>>161500316
dont quote me or my posts ever again
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>>161500138
The Kolibri.
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>>161500701
Planetside is old as fuck and Planetside 2 is fucking dead as fuck too.
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>>161479631

>tfw I got the 20 rifle grenade kills, and got all the way to the get 5 kills in one medic life, then it got reset back to the beginning.
>>
>>161500172
>take tank down to like 9 health
>nobody else does anything against it until it's repaired back all its health
>don't have any more ammo and nobody to resupply
>the team is 50% assault
>>
>>161498421
The whole point of world war I, was wearing a gas mask and having your vision concealed while in trench fights, with badly suited to the job bolt action rifles, if you were fortunate and skillful enough not to be meat to the grinder of machine gun emplacements and accurate artillery fire. That's literally what caused the casualty figures to be so massive.
>>
>>161501532
All wars involve dehumanization and senseless killing
World War 1 was violent, but more people have died in other wars.
>>
>try to vault over something
>does vault animation
>doesnt vault me over
>try to vault over something
>does vault animation
>doesnt vault me over
>get blasted
>die
im glad i dont have manual control over jumping over objects/fences. this is truly the future of video games
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>>161501660
More people died from the flu after anyways.
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>>161501660
That's not really the point of what I was saying, but okay.

If one were to fairly accurately model an 1917-1918 front-line company engaged in combat over a small area, it would look something like this.

Supposing a *64* player team German team, which probably could be done once the bugs are ironed out.
>2 semi-automatic rifles (there's like ~5000 in existence in the entire army at this point, spread across the entire front).
>3 SMG's (~5000-10000)
>2 Flamethrowers
>2 anti-rifles
>4 scoped rifles
>5 LMG's (mg-15 or madsen)
>Rest of the team if their not in a vehicle has bolt action iron sight rifles.

People seem to underestimate the amount of fun that comes from simulating close in gun fights between bolt action rifles and flamethrowers, and how the game changes when a majority of the team has to use that equipment.
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Are the BF3 DLC maps still active?
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>>161502304
Can you stop posting this, no one cares.
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>>161502519
I can understand why the developers would stick to their normal path and use WW1 as an "aesthetic", but why didn't have like 1 mode that could be set on a server that does this?
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>>161480217
obviously use an ironsight rifle and play aggressively. camping is fucking awful and is only for people who care more about k/d ratio than having fun.
also using an ironsight sniper willl prepare you for using the memetini

>mfw getting a triple kill with the memetini in the corridors of ballroom blitz
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>>161503414
Because very few people would play it and it's not worth the time and effort to do it, especially on a rushed game.
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>Tfw you have to drop 180 kills to win one Operations match

Tbh I just wanted to see if I could do the 100+ kills solo as pure infantry only meme, without cheesing it as iron walls defender or argonne with 2-3 battalions or something like that.
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>>161503414
Verdun already did it so the niche is already filled.
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>>161504012
how do you get that information in the top left?
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>>161504067
No tanks, no airplanes, and no playerbase.

If they want a relatively large group of peoples dollars, they can strive to do the ultimate pain in the ass and change some gameplay mechanics around and add a little server setting known as either "Action" mode or "Historical" mode.
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i remember when if you took an aircraft, you had to manually take off. was that deemed too difficult?
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>>161504590
dice removed it because of people stealing base vehicles
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>>161502304
Oh great its this autist again.
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>>161503983
>Spend like a day, with several developers, getting perhaps 100,000 more copies of the game sold.

I'm not an expert of business, but that little use of time doesn't seem non-profitable.
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>>161504159
MSI Afterburner + RivaTunerStatistics

you can set it to monitor basically anything you want
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>>161500138
Infantry rifles, if you miss, there's a good chance you're fucked.
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>>161504894
You overestimate sales, target demographics and the salaries and advertising dollars that go into that mode.

It wouldn't sell that many and it wouldn't break even.
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>>161504894
>waaaaaah, why won't they cater to me?
They could do a lot of small little things to get maybe a couple thousand niche players, but is it really worth it?
No.
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>>161505019
>BF 1 has broken sales figure records for both BF 4 and battlefront; demonstrating an interest in the world war I time period.

There's going to be these nitpicky autists, and its not just me, about the manner in the way it is set up.

People, whom are not me, have called it out as a straight up fantasy game.
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>>161505246
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>>161504894
>Spend like a day
Keep in mind these niggers have had several years to figure out how to make a functioning quit button and failed. One day might be pushing it.
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>>161505163
>2 people 1 day;
>No development required, literally making a small java program that sets limits within the base game, regarding weapons availability to the team.

>1000 niche players * 60 dollars =
$60000 dollars for one day of work

>Not worth it.

Okay, alright.
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>>161505246
You (the audience you represent) are not a sufficiently sized number for EA to consider pursuing based off of my own understanding and research. If numbers crop up and prove me significantly wrong, post them because I'm interested. Until then: If it gets done, it is done as a labor of love most likely.

This is how marketing works. I hate to be that guy, but I make my living doing it, so I have at least a vague idea about it.

It broke sales numbers because it was marketed well and because it wasn't a future warfare game. People loved the WW2 period until we sicked it dry. This game is almost a throwback but it's different enough to not be tired.
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>>161505620
it's more of a throwback than you know, codename eagle anyone?

that said I don't think a limited guns mode would be alien to the game or the playerbase, they have the custom games browser, they have server settings that pretty much already do it right in place, all they gotta do is make a preset and a few servers and you have a subset of the population engaged with it
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>>161505620
>This game is almost a throwback but it's different enough to not be tired.
it feels exactly like a ww2 game though
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>>161505889
first expansion is entitled they shall not pass

you'll get your trenches
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>>161505783
As I said, if it happens its a labor of love and not a major move by EA.

>>161505889
Yes, but it's WW1. It says so on the tin. So it's WW1.

This is how consumers work on a mass level.
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>>161505993
>As I said, if it happens its a labor of love and not a major move by EA.

did you read the post? like at all?
>>>/biz/niggers
>reading comprehension
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What is the best new feature and why is it the ability to hide the chat?

>xxmetalxxgearxx: SHOTGUN NOOB
>xxmetalxxgearxx: FUCKING KEK
>twitchTVairchav: NICE RAM KID
>twitchTVairchav: SUCH PRO
>twitchTVairchav: MANY SKILL
>GTKRWN1488: HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG
>ObedientSissiBoi: I want to fug the airship :3
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>>161505420
>I definitely know how this works
>m-my dad works for DICE
Okay, kid.
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>>161506235
>new
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>>161506848
Bad Company 2 was the last one I played so it's new to me.
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>>161505993
>Yes, but it's WW1. It says so on the tin. So it's WW1.
No its a shitty WW2 game without content because like other anon said its exactly that.
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>>161508057
Read the sentence immediately following that one. It was meant to be a sarcastic observation.
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>>161471479
100 or 110
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>>161506235
best chat window feature is obviously the always show.
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If anyone wants a healslut add me, I main medic

Origin: KingLolicon
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>>161506235
I exclusively play Dominion and use the Model 10 just to see people in chat rage

You're missing out
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>>161481696
>bad company 3
>2 classes
>medic and anti-tank merged
>support and sniper merged
>support gets the repair tool
>ADS is disabled
>all guns have the same stats
>all guns behave like counter strike guns
>only drivable vehicle in the game is the M1 tank (max 1 per team)
>massive 4v4 battles on incomprehensible 100x100 meter maps
>sprinting is disabled
>jumping is disabled
>looking up and down is disabled
>grafix make the full use of the voodoo3 vidya processor they put on consoles these days
>immeasurable (2) game modes on the most maps on a Battlefield™ title EVER (2)
>killstreaks added
>player is rewarded for every action they do (including walking and joining a server)
>each gun has 400 000 skins (1 on release)
>campaign takes place in the siege of Constantinople
>features iconic weapons of the era (AK-47 on release)
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I really wish there was a more conventional killcam system in place.
If you're going to have fucking trash servers at least let me know what the other player saw when I apparently get one-shotted with an smg.
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>>161511693
>no spurdo fps
I mean we have My Sumer Car but pls
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>>161512276
how is that game? it looks like a comfy game to play while drunk.
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>>161512115
>wanting killcams

Why? I hate those, gives you're position away.
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Is anyone elses fps absolute trash in bf1. I can run bf4 60+ on high settings with no drops but bf1 i can barely maintain 45 on lowest
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>tfw might buy battlepacks if the martini henry skin looks good
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if you had to choose would you go for 4k ips 60hz or 1080p tn 144hz?
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>>161513210
1440p 120Hz.
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>>161512875
What are the odds of getting a legendary from a standard battlepack? I think it's only happened to me once, and I have to have opened at least 50.

Am I just unlucky?
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>>161512532
It's really fucking comfy but it asks quite a lot from you and it's easy to lose the comfiness in frustration. After all, if you want to drive the datsun you're going to have to assemble it from scratch. If you're not a Finn, a car enthusiast, or haven't done a lot of work on cars you're going to be alt-tabbing for a few hours.

If you do pick it up they fuck you over for a joke by giving you every part except a fan belt, which you'll have to drive into town to get. You also need several bottles of brake fluid to fill up the brake and clutch master cylinders so don't make the mistake I did and have to drive all the way back. If you get the car together and it runs like hot trash check the fluids and if they've dropped check that every bolt is fully tightened.

One final tip: you can drink water from the tap in your kitchen so you don't have to waste beer while you're at home.

I think it lasted me about 10 hours before I'd had enough.
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>>161513396
nice, definitely going to try it
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>>161512589
Because they already have a killcam that gives away positions, but it's a fucking garbage killcam that doesn't help you understand what happened.

Show me the other player's screen for five seconds leading up to when they killed me, give me a nice text breakdown of how and where I took damage. As an added bonus it fills in the time that you spend staring at your dead body while the spawn counter ticks down and you wait for a medic to run over, which would probably help with the endless respawn 'rushing'.
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>>161513732
"spoonfeed me"

Fuck off retard, back to CoD with you.

You should know why you got shot, you were out in the open like a fucking faggot, trying to akimbo 420 noscope people so you can put it in you're youtube mlg montages.
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>>161514153
>>>/v/
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>>161514562
babyboy can't handle the truth, lmao rekt. I bet you whine about 10A Hunter in allchat. Hahahahahahahahahahaha faggot
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>>161513323
what monitor

and don't say gsync
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>>161512832
they fucked it up somehow with the patch, it was fine in the beta and launch

wait for the fix or you can try using dx12 if your shitty i3 meme processor is getting destroyed by dice's quality patches (i got a solid fps boost but also microstutters when using dx12 so i turned it off)
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>>161516887
im on w7 so i cant turn off dx12, right? Also, yea i had good fps in the beta. I got an i5 quad core
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>playing Supp
>catch some enemy off guard
>light em up
>dakka dakka
>he panics
>doesn't know where he's getting shot from
>starts firing at the barrels next to him
>finally catches me after dumping half a mag
>PRRRRT
>die

Man this Battlefield 4 Automemeico expansion pack is just loads of fun, I'm having a fucking ball
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>>161477821
>not being a kolibri memer
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>>161521136
I mean sure the automatico is dumb, but if it took you that long to kill an unaware opponent you're doing something wrong.
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>>161477821
Is it?
I'm still shitting on plenty of Automatico/10-A scrubs with the MP18.
People are still just as bad as they always have been.
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>>161521371
People are WORSE. It's staggering. I'm afraid to go back and play 4 because my aim has probably gotten sloppy. You hardly have to try.
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>>161521272
I was playing support senpai, it was like a ~15m kill
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>AT gun headshot
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>>161521776
All the LMGs kill in 5 bullets at ~15m, less if you manage a headshot.
You couldn't hit 5 bullets before he got his hand off his dick and stopped shooting the scenery?
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>>161521973
5 bullets in X seconds for LMG = 5 automatico rounds in .XX of a second
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>be me
>medic
>go on a reviving spree
>see some dead guy from across the objective
>no enemy's around
>whynot.jpg
>goes to dead guy
>get shot by some sniper jew
>never forgetti
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>>161522350
>BAR TTK @ 15m: 5 Rounds in 418 milliseconds
>Automatico TTK @ 15m: 6 rounds in 363 milliseconds

If they managed to figure out where you were, get their aim on, and hit you with six rounds in less than 55 milliseconds they deserve to kill you. If you need more than 55 milliseconds advantage to kill an unaware target at 15m you deserve to die.
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>>161523343
>risky revive
>no smoke grenade
the spaghetti is all yours
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>>161523343
>be medic
>every teammate slams their skip button like its going out of style
>>
>see people hype and complain about autoniggerco
>unlock it
>holy shit that recoil
>holy fuck that magazine blocking the view
>needing to burst fire an SMG
>go back yo MP18
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>Only one defending the objective
>10 guys swarm the shit out of me
>manage to take down 9 before having to reload
>all 10 were fucking medics who just rezzed each other.
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>>161526284
use the trench variant and hipfire everything
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>>161526284
>aiming in
L M A O
>>
When is Bad Company 2: Remastered Edition
coming out?
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>>161492334
> playing Suez
> see a light tank move around being a rock
> run over, get ready to place dynamite
> see grey circle
> "oh shit!"
> run had on to steal it
> turret turns and kills me
> respawn
> creep around rock
> see grey circle
> "not this time"
> sneak around the front looking for the driver first
> turret turns and shoots me
> now I'm pissed
> respawn, charge rock, cram dynamite up his ass and allahu akbar the both of us
> turns out there was a motorcycle on the other side of the tank that I couldn't see
> that was the grey circle

Vehicles make some funny shit happen.
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>>161494287
>>161494382
>>161495164
> you can't swing the sword while jumping

This has gotten me killed so many times.
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>>161530778
>you can't shoot while jumping
f u c k i n g
w h y
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>>161526525
Playing against organized medic squads is the worst, you need a squad wipe to actually do anything useful
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>>161503414
Just get your own server and do it yourself.
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Heavy Tank has broken this game. So fucking OP and can't die unless the entire team spawns as assault and focuses on it. I don't even use it anymore because I feel guilty going 50-0 in a broken unbalanced milk truck. No one uses any other land vehicle.
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>>161532392
It's only OP if the enemy aren't aware that anti-tank mines exist.
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How do I git gud as medic?
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>>161532491
I hardly ever see anyone use AT mines. Pretty impossible to get close to it with that extremely powerful cannon and ability to 180 in less than 2 seconds
>>
https://www.videogamer.com/news/no-new-battlefield-for-a-couple-of-years-ea

so what's the next Battlefield gonna be?
kind of sick of Bf1's fuckery. It's an okay game. Not essentially good but okay.
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>>161532552
Heal yourself constantly.
Bring the right rifle that goes with your playstyle.
That simple.
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>>161534078
Civil War
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>>161534196
Is there a retard's guide to the different rifles? I'm still low level so I haven't had the chance to try them all
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>>161532552
First revive syringe and medpaks equipped at all times. Second the guns the medic has are good for mid range to long range. If you're not gud don't run and gun. Follow and stay behind squad mates and blue berrys.
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>>161535016
Memedragon, sweeper,
Look at the stats. Accuracy, rate of fire, reload time.
Just try them all out. You should be level 3 in no time
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>that front post on the m1907 sl
seriously how am i supposed to aim this thing with a giant fucking metal ball in the centre as my iron sights. and all the other medic close-range weapons have their own shitty downside

i have to use the autoloading 8 extended to be able to cover medium range which ironically has a worse damage dropoff than the m1907, simply because i can actually see what i'm shooting at. and the autoloading 8 doesn't have a trench variant so i'm stuck with a choice of unusable irons, shitty medium-range performance or a reload fest rivalling the dao12 (cei rigotti trench)

i wish the buckthorn sights replaced the front post like the aa sights on the lmgs but all it does is change the rear sights which does fuck all
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>that one squad that spends the whole game going after you because youre literally 40-0 in a tank

god just fuck off and let me rape your team in peace
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>>161535810
further proof the heavy tank is extremely OP. Requires no skill.
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>>161535016
mondragon sniper for best all-purpose rifle with a scope

autoloading 8 extended for aimed closerange

m1907 trench for best hipfire machine (the ironsights are awful)

autoloading 8 marksman for skillcannon
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>>161535616
>>161535245
Thanks lads <3
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>>161534078
It's sad how underrated BF1 is here

It's not perfect but it's the best since BC2. People here played the absolute shitfest of poor design that was BF4 for THOUSANDS of hours yet talk shit about BF1's balance. It's mind-boggling
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>>161521965
>on a hillnigger halfway across the map
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Perfect maps don't exi-
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Mortars: HE or Airburst?
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>>161521136
>firing an lmg standing like fucking rambo
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>>161543372
Neither, mortars are shit
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>>161544380
yeah but I need ten kills to advance in this medal
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>>161542585
>it's a straight line with zero (0) tactical options

nice meme
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>>161544508
Airburst then, use on infantry
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>>161544570
>muh taticool
It's best rush map, hands down.
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>>161504852
And that was too unfair for casual retards I assume?
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>>161545561
oh boy it's a rush nigger

rush is a SHIT mode
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>>161543372
if you're playing suez, use he. the airburst has problems demolishing and penetrating buildings while the he will easily cave in the hundreds of little houses that everyone loves to hide in
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>>161545679
it was deemed a problem because according to dice, the base assets are not supposed to be easily stolen. because air vehicles don't count as out of bounds in the enemy base, it's far easier to steal those than the ground vehicles

i suppose it also makes it harder to baserape the enemy air vehicles. the lack of auto aa would theoretically make it even easier to do so because the flak guns are unprotected and are actually destroyable objects (yes even the base ones like in st. quentin's scar)
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>>161546048
bf4 didn't have airfields either, there was no auto-AA in bf3, and it wasn't a huge problem
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>>161544570
>zero (0) tactical options
Are you retarded?
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>>161546861
are you?
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>>161546350
bf4 didn't have airfields for jets for the most part but it did have it for helis which were thus extremely easy to kill over and over again in a baserape situation and even in non-baserape scenarios (shanghai is infamous for this, dawnbreaker for the left side team, golmud to a lesser extent)

and the aa was invincible in bf3 at least, in bf1 not only is the operator vulnerable but the guns themselves can be destroyed even when no one is operating them
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>>161547191
the aa in bf1 is more powerful, more accessible, and planes less powerful, the aa truck will always function

overall it's more balanced and wouldn't have a problem with airfields at all
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>>161547489
the power is useless if the aa ceases to exist. one of the first thing any competent pilot does is to bomb the most troublesome aa emplacements

i had a game on st. quentin's scar which is commonly thought of to be the worst place to fly. there was one guy on the enemy team in a bomber who kept destroying the aa guns on c, e and b. i had to use the base aa's to shoot the airship and when i had my attention on the airship, he simply bombed the base aa emplacements as well
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>>161547016
he's talking about Arica Harbor stupid
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>>161547747
yeah and it's a straight line with one or two paths you can take, real battlefield conquest going on

but hey he's a rush shitter, probably 32+ players or a consoletard
I guess pointless meatgrinders with no thinking is what gets him off
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>>161542585
>10 minutes in
>every building is leveled
>people start hiding in the ruble
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>>161463226

The BF4 emblems don't work, you have to get BF1 specific ones that have a import link on their page
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>>161463226
http://emblemsbf.com/
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>>161512115
Then you'll just have what you get with CoD, where you watch the guy who killed you soak up a dozen bullets as he turns around and somehow oneshots you.
>>
I know it's just a minor annoyance, but why do the servers always come up empty when you search the first time
>>
>finally managed to get 3 headshots in a single life
>all three were from firing a stationary mg in Argonne of all things
Wew. Easy medal.
>>
>>161532552
unlock the mondragon
>>
>>161549793
quickmatch seems to favor starting new matches over putting you at the end of a shit one, I like it
>>
Can anybody please explain to me just what the fuck this guy was doing and how he killed me
https://youtu.be/uAMPweUnO0o
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OKAY I JUST GOT THE STUPID FUCKING BODEO LEGENDARY SKIN TWICE IN A ROW
IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN IM BREAKING SOMETHING
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>>161551981
Hahahahaa
AHAHAHAHAHA
git gud faget
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>>161552793
:(
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>it'll never be this good again

why live?
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>>161551959
yeah but I don't want quick match I want my specific sever search, it's flawed
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>>161554819
oh that, I guess it's because they don't have a playercount filter by default
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>>161542585
>desert map
NO
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>>161557961
hurr durr
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>>161558862
FUCK DESERT MAPS
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>>161558889
hurrrrr
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>>161558997
just because sweden has an obsession with sandniggers doesnt mean dice should make EVERY FUCKING GAME HAVE A MILLION STUPID FUCKING DESERT MAPS

WINTER MAP WHEN
W
H
E
N
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>>161559973
fuck off idiot, some of the best maps in battlefield have been desert maps
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>>161559973
battlefront has a few hoth maps anon
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He even looks sad
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>>161562714
He's sad because his parents gave him such a retarded name
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>>161563267
SEVENTH GRADE OKAY
I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT BECAUSE I PLAYED THE PREVIOUS BF TITLES WITH THIS
>>
>new gamemode LINE OF SIGHT
>1shot snipers

wew really

also has anybody ever been able to find an active fog of war server ? i havent
>>
>>161564054
oh shit yeah it's fucking SWAT
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>>161562714
>console

thatd be why, anon
>>
Why can't we sprint out of crouch? You can sprint out of prone, but not crouch.

REEEEEEEEEEE

I get killed so much from that shit. Also fuck Heavy Tank whores.
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>>161567060
git gud
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>>161461507
>Haven't had a battlepack drop in the last 9 games
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>>161567373
>buy 3 superiors this morning
>none of them are the one skin I wanted
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>>161567060
it doesn't take long to sprint from crouch in the first place
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>>161567060
never prone my nigga
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> still no autoloading 8 legendary skin

Whyyyyy
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>>161567060
dont use toggle crouch
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>>161564054
>also has anybody ever been able to find an active fog of war server ? i havent

I've played loads of rounds desu.. Doesn't quickmatch work for you in the custom games tab? It's kind of fun. Servers do tend to die after a round or 2, but just quickmatching again typically works.
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anti vehicle medal:
>do dmg
>disable 10
>destroy 10
destroying doesnt count towards diable like cmon
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>>161570226

Destroy and disable are seperate things.. If you destroy a tank, but don't get the disable, someone else disabled it.
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>Using Heavy Tanks
>When you can just kill everything with a Light Flanker Tank.

Why?
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>>161570740
Light Flanker tanks only murder infantry and die in 3 AT nades/other tank shells

They're only useful against vehicles when it comes to sustained DPS, because it's "impossible" for them to run out of ammo
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>>161568450
thanks premium for the free SBP
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>>161570987
>Implying I didn't go 63-2 in a Flanker Tank.

This is the BF for dumb people anon. It's too easy to take out Tanks AND Infantry with that tank.
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>>161469517
to be fair dropping crates in this game is fucked.

its like placing a mortar now instead of throwing a c4
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>>161571078
You get fucking destroyed by anything using a main cannon.
Art Truck can do upwards of 51 damage in a single shot to the Light Tank.
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>>161571621
>Not flanking and putting yourself in the best position possible.

It's really not that hard. I -rarely- have issues with getting out gunned in that tank. Shoot n Scoot nigga
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>>161571621
Literally this
Taking out light tank fags with 2 shells
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>>161461507
Have you thanked your repairasite today?
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>>161571704
When I see a Light Tank as an Art Truck, I literally just bum rush him and win every time because I don't have a conditional heal and I 2-3 shot him.
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>>161504852
also because i would spawn kill the pilots with a sniper
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>>161571993
We need to get grouped up in a match against each other then. I'd like a good challenge.
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>>161570361
no because it doesnt count for disable as well if you 100 to zero it.
im aware disable and destroy and different things, my post indicates that i find this stupid in a locked progression medal system you nigger
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>>161571993
I'll be honest, artillery trucks and heavy tanks everywhere made me stop playing BF1.

It's just not fun to play vehicles in this game. Heavy Tank is boring as fuck to play and Light Tank is frustrating.

Back to BF4.
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>>161544570
there was 3 lanes and a jungle on each end iirc
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>>161571834
>Still trying push this meme
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>>161572356
What? I only posted that image once before.
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>Play Operations
>Edge of the World
>Put order to defend B
>The everyone in the squad go to A, leaving me to defend B all alone
Why do people have so hard to follow orders? They can at least check the map to see if there isn't enough people defending a point.
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>>161572709
ESL pls.
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>>161572219
All they fucking need to do is
>Get rid of the self repair feature
>Make repair tools more effective
>Make light tanks way faster
>Make heavy tanks way slower
>Make Light tanks die in two AT grenades and heavy tanks in four
>Reduce damage on infantry dealt by the tank's canon forcing the driver to actually fucking use their secondary on infantry and their primary solely on buildings and vehicles
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>>161572709
squads were unironically a mistake
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>>161571041
Mad jelly tbqh
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>>161572771
>Make repair tools more effective
>enabling supports to outrepair any amount of damage

wew lad did the engie helis in bf3 teach you nothing?
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>>161572747
Wut?
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>>161572771
Are you fucking kidding me?
>Get rid of self rep
>make light tanks die in 2 at nades
>reduce main cannon damage

You made tanks even worse. Because canister shell in BF1 sucks dick compared to previous games and has no range.
It already only takes 3 AT nades to fuck up a Light tank and disable it or kill it if it's not at 100hp and you can throw 2 at nades in under 5 seconds.

Make Heavy Tanks run at infantry sprint speed and make light tanks 25% faster or give them a second gear like in previous games. Right now Light Tanks are SLOWER than Heavy Tanks and die in 3-4 shots from the Heavy Tank's main cannon, of which the heavy tank gets 6.

Light tanks are just so shit at being BF tanks it's incredible. And before you cry that you can still go 50-0 you have to play extremely defensive and you can never face upfront anything without cover without getting popped instantly by the arty truck, heavy tank, 6 million at nades and at rockets and K bullets.
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>>161573026
in the beta 2 direct hits were enough
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>>161573104
Two direct hits of what on what. Canister shell on infantry?
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>>161573142
two direct hits with AT grenades would blow a tank up

>being a tank autist
>being mad your crutch got nerfed

in 1942 5 direct hits with regular grenades would kill a tank too, so any single soldier with a good enough aim could kill a tank with what they had from spawn
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>>161573226
And you also can kill a tank with all your ammo in BF2, 3, 4 and 1 if you hit the tanks right.

Besides in the Beta I had like 50k/d with the tanks, I don't think I died to AT Nades in the Beta even once.

You have to remember though that in the Beta tanks were stronger and not everybody had the AT nades or knew how to use them.
In release, especially now everyone and their mom has AT nades and starts throwing them at any sight of a tank nearby. It's at a point where I simply don't get into obejctive areas if there's enemies at all and just let the infantry capture it while I kill people from the outskirts. Every time I try to capture an objective the nades start flying and I have to pull back and rep. It's not even fun.
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>>161573481
no you can't, antitank literally does not have enough rockets to kill a tank in bf2, vehicle balance was extremely fucked in 2, somewhat better in 3 and 4 but still bad

bf2 antitank class was a joke, you'd have better luck with spec ops c4

but it's finally back to being almost good now
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>>161573613
Didn't you get the 6 rockets necessary to pop a tank in BF2? I seem to recall it like that, but I haven't played it in years.
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>>161572709
some squad leaders give stupid fucking orders but i agree idk why its hard to figure out for people that you best play the same point with the whole squad
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The fucking game keeps crashing

I swear to god every time my team is doing good.

WHEN WILL THEY FIX THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>161574190
What gpu do you have?
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>>161574190
Quiet
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>>161574272
GTX680

A bit old but the game runs great except when it is crashing.

And yes I have turned off dx12
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>>161574440
>nvidia
thats the problem
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>play game on 50% resolution scale to get a solid 60 fps
>looks as pixellated as can be
im not sure its worth the 60 fps desu

i know my computer is old, dont bully
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Its still so many players that don't know about the spot/order command, its not even funny.
Almost every game I become the new squad leader since nobody gives an order after I have requested one.
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>>161521973
All LMGs have a fucking retarded spread

I understand the concept of LMGs but ANYTHING outside of proned bipod is like having a showerhead on top of your fucking barrel
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>>161576856
if you're not bipoded it gets more accurate if you hold down fire, so it has a lot of spread at first, but then gets better
if you move it resets

so stand still and m1
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>>161575826
once they learned the absolute basics like ammpo and medbags theyre gonna become people that get allcapped every round because they all take the same lane to the next point or are afk getting backraged nading the same lane. its the next step in their evolution and its almost worse than stage 1
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Why is the 12G so bad?
Why are all LMG's so bad?
Why doesn't C4 stick?
Why do i have to go prone to fire the rocket gun?
Why does gas penetrate walls this easily?
Why do most players not even try to do the right thing e.g. drop ammo/health?
Why do i have to play with these shitty ironsides?
Why are tanks so slow and unmaneuverable?
Why are Behemoths a thing? Who asked for something like this after the AC130 in BF3?
Why does Argonne Forest exist?
Why do i hate myself?
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>>161577542
Come home Battlefield man
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>>161577542
>why is the 12g bad
you are bad
>lmg
see above
>C4
>C4
>why do I have to go prone to fire a big gun
balance
>why does gas penetrate walls
it's gas
>why do most players not play
black friday
>why do I have to play with iron sights
because you didn't unlock the scoped version
>why are tanks slow
because it's ww1
>why are behemoths a thing
it's a cool way to balance a losing game
>why does argonne forest exist
it grew
>why do I hate myself
you are not a likable person
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>>161577840
>legimitately playing a 60 dollar patch
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>>161578006
It costs like 20€, 10 if it's on sale.
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>>161577542
>Why do i have to go prone to fire the rocket gun?
I dunno if it will make you feel better, but you can shoot the rocket gun without going prone if you aim behind cover.
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>>161571834
I have never seen somebody repair a tank
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>>161577909
>it's a cool way to balance a losing game
getting exploded to hell and back for half the game from a ship that you cant touch as the enemy doesnt even try to win the game anymore is a cool way to balance the game?
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>>161578289
it just needs to be supported like the lmg, any surface will do

works real nice once you understand how it works

>dice in charge of teaching new concepts to players
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>>161578467
>getting exploded to hell and back for half the game from a ship that you cant touch
They're not that hard to take down, anon.
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>>161578443
do you drive backwards and forwards for upwards of 10 seconds without stopping?
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>>161570740
the 4-man A7V with HE autocannons does work with a full load.

You can have all angles covered at once and still take a lot of damage. The arty truck is also better than the light tank.
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>>161578607
>dice in charge of teaching new concepts to players
They thought that linking videos to obnoxious youtubers shitty guides in the main menu would help.
It didn't
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>>161577909
>you are bad
No, just mad
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>>161578694
the dreadnought is. land has no way to touch it. comes with AA to delete air. if they arent retarded they shoot the boats that try to come near them
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>>161579313
dreadnought is retardedly easy to take out with torps or shore guns, almost a shame since they were supposed to be dominant in ww1
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>>161577542
>Why is the 12G so bad?
if you can't thrive with a shotgun I don't know what to tell you
>Why are all LMG's so bad?
the BAR cuts people in half
>Why doesn't C4 stick?
because it's fucking dynamite you idiot, this is WWI
>Why do i have to go prone to fire the rocket gun?
Because in reality that thing would be 100+ pounds, be thankful you can mount it in windows
>Why does gas penetrate walls this easily?
because gas is a GAS
>Why do most players not even try to do the right thing e.g. drop ammo/health?
that I cannot help you with, I love racking up my medic score
>Why do i have to play with these shitty ironsides?
you don't, but you should if you aren't shit
>Why are tanks so slow and unmaneuverable?
because this is the first time tanks were ever used in combat, in reality those tanks you are driving would break down all the damn time
>Why are Behemoths a thing? Who asked for something like this after the AC130 in BF3?
it makes for great comebacks
>Why does Argonne Forest exist?
because it's the best map and is a very famous WWI battle site
>Why do i hate myself?
probably because you are an underachiever like me

you'll get used to it
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>>161579568
fao doesnt have fortress guns, and the field guns dont reach. torpedo boats get destroyed unless the gunners have blinders on
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>>161577542
I could make a list literally 10x as long with the shitty stuff in BF4
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>>161579236
>49% winrate

jesus fucking christ
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>>161471479
75
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>>161580335
>top 75%

natural winrate is well below 50 due to winning team joiners and losers quitting

most open slots are logically on a horribly losing team

if you want to win more you get with a good squad because you can't carry that shit by yourself, no way
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>>161580335
Having a high winrate is pretty hard if you play solo.

When I play with people I know I have like 80% winrate, but solo my winrate is like 55%.

It's not that easy to make a difference when you got 31 retards to carry.
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>>161580335
How do i git gud? I mostly play alone on conquest.
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>>161580889
...you realize top 75% is really, really bad right? You realize that means literally 3/4ths of the population wins more than you do? Which is laughable when a good majority of the BF playerbase are shitty casuals
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>>161580335
>giving the Cy Young to the pitcher with the most wins

Literally the most pointless stat
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>>161580889
>if you want to win more you get with a good squad because you can't carry that shit by yourself, no way

>>161580894
>It's not that easy to make a difference when you got 31 retards to carry.

What have these threads become

literally just git gud
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Well post your winrates then
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>>161580335
but that is a team effort, win % is retarded

>squad do this!
>one in a tank
>one in a plane
>one sniping all game
>one constantly telling you to give orders that are already out
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>>161581246
I'm probably better than anyone else in this general at this game, you're just dumb.
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I only play conquest, does some other game mode give better exp or something?
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so this is the first bf game i've ever played and it's pretty fun. is it weird that i like playing smaller games [like domination] more than operations? i find i can play the objective and get a lot better k/d [or kills in general] in the smaller games, but the big operations i go like 10-40 trying to play the obj
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>>161582452
you just need a different kind of battle awareness for operations and conquest, know where the flow of battle is going so you aren't getting shit on by 20 people at the same time
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>tfw want to stop playing but keep winning battlepacks
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>>161582347
I play only conquest and try to mainly fight on or close to flags. I pay attention to giving orders and try to play my class like always spam pouches, flares, kill vehicles and revives(be careful to not run into your death just to get a revive)
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>>161581168
>>161581452
If you're legitimately a good player then your winrate will obviously rise and be positive over time. This whole "1 player doesn't make a difference" shit is beyond retarded and a excuse only born by bad players

>hurr my team is me + 31 shitters

Then the other team is 32 shitters and you should win by virtue of having 1 less shitter. Git fucking gud

>>161582062
Good joke shitter
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>>161582881
yeah that wasn't my question and I wasn't asking for tips

the picture shows a massive disparity between my all around SPM vs my class SPM

I'm in the top 10% for all but 1 (13%) but I am in the 51% for SPM?
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>>161583004
you can't just dismiss the fact that you are 1 person in a team of 32 and call the player shit

>sure your K/D is great, and your SPM is in the top 5%, but how do you explain the 49% winning percentage? Shitter!

End your life
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>>161583004
I'll stick to the baseball analogy because it works well

Mike Trout won the AL MVP, deservedly, while playing for the Angels last season. The Angels finished 74-88. One person can only do so much
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>>161583004
>there's 5 objectives in the map
>you are one person
>that means you can, if you're good, maintain one objective capped at all times
>if you leave that objective to capture another one it's open for the enemy to take again

>it's a we only have one flag episode (the flag I'm at)
>WOAH DUDE WHY YOU LOST YOU SO BADDDD XXDDDD YOU MEAN YOU CANT BE AT 3 PLACES AT THE SAME TIME ALL GAME?

KYS.

t. 65% winrate
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>>161583106
It means your game mode score is incredibly, incredibly low. You say you fight on flags but the truth in the stats says different.


>>161583390
Your KD isn't "great", and it's an irrelevant stat when it comes to winning (this is coming from someone with one higher than yours). Your KPM is very low comparatively, and basically shows you're likely a camping shitter to get that KD.

Your mindset in that post basically shows exactly why you're a negative winrate shitter.

>MUH KD

Flag caps, flag defends, revives, heals, vehicles destroyed. These are things that would help your team actually win. Having a slightly above average K/D doesn't mean shit when it comes to actually winning games in an objective based game.

>>161583651
>I'll stick to the baseball analogy because it works well

Except it doesn't. At all.

You might as well make a food analogy next like other /v/ retards
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>>161570226
>deliver 10 pidgeons for medal
>don't even have to send them yourself
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>>161584284
No, it means that on average you will be making enough of a positive impact to win more games than you lose.

>it's a we only have one flag episode (the flag I'm at)
>WOAH DUDE WHY YOU LOST YOU SO BADDDD XXDDDD YOU MEAN YOU CANT BE AT 3 PLACES AT THE SAME TIME ALL GAME?

Yeah this really happens every game. Calm down you sperg

You retards really love your exaggerations and statistically rare situations. Yes there are unwinnable games. So? Learn how statistics work. Over enough time "unlucky" streaks with bad teams will even out with times where you got placed on the much better team. You know what's left in the middle? Games where the teams are close enough that you CAN win if you play well enough and impact the game enough. That's where your winrate is really decided, how many of those games you win
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>>161526284
lol @ you ironsighting the autoniggerco.
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>got the bodeo legendary twice
>got the shotgun legendary twice
>didn't get the mg15 legendary ONCE
Literally only because I want it
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anyone knows if we already go a revision with the legendary skin for the martini henry?

got the game last week
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>>161585949
Not yet, I think there was only one white skin, before this revision
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>>161461507
Should I still buy Battlefield 1 knowing that they will at some point jew me of another 50 usd for the premium shit that I'll eventually buy
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why does it seem to be a thing that people leave an objective that was just capped if there's still enemies ? and i dont mean half of the people there go get the next one i mean the whole fucking lot just dont care and it gets backcapped
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Are LMGs even relevant?
>Only useful when you use the bipod
>Damage is trash

I finally unlocked the BAR and I'm literally never going back. I went from averaging like two kills a life to like five of six.
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>>161587757
>he is not in possession of the knowledge
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>>161587757
Dumb frogposter.
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>>161587907
>>161587924
Let me guess, you're some of those
>"muh magazine count"
retards? The MG15 is alright if you play like a turtle, but the BAR can fuck a nigger up in like 7 bullets if you're actually good at aiming. The trick is to actually aim though, which is a hard trick to learn since in BF1 most guns are actually better when you don't aim.
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>>161588124
>The trick is to actually aim though
>not running trench BAR and pretending you're an assault
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>>161577840
I've always wondered, why is the protagonist from Battlefield 3 on the cover of Battlefield 4?
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>>161579614
>Why do I have to go prone with the rocket gun?

To think of how novel and asymmetric this game might have been if they paid some heed to historical limitations and capabilities.

>British have: BARs, more LMG's, triple purpose rocket gun, shotguns, lots of, but less capable tanks.
>German team: SMG's, semi-automatic rifles, flamethrowers, AT rifle, an extremely powerful (due to capabilities of the era) but rare tank,
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>>161584354
>Flag caps, flag defends, revives, heals, vehicles destroyed.

none of those things help your team win, only strategy for map control wins games, and there is exactly NO stat in the game that can quantify that, and it's not something a single person can do, no way
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>>161588757
maybe go buy 10million copies of RO2:vietnam then EA will see this game model is viable and do it in the next WW2 Battlefield.
plz do it
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>>161588871
>flag caps, defends, revives don't help your team win

We're reaching autism levels that shouldn't be possible
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>its another tanks are op unless im using them server
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>>161589223
That game is shit though
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>>161589473
>>161589473
i know thats why i want that model of gameplay in battlfield.
pretty clear what i said
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>>161589849
Why bother with realistic loadout limitations if all the guns will still be BF-style arcade peashooters?
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>>161590024
i like battlefield gunplay, minus the supression rng
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I FUCKING LOVE SPAWNING AND THEN ONE SECOND LATER GET MY HEAD BLOWN OFF BY A SNIPER BECAUSE DICE GOT AN ERECTION FOR SHIT SPAWNS THAT SO BIG IT REACHES THE END OF THE UNIVERSE
JESUS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I AM 2000000% MAD
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>>161591142
Congratulations on wall of texting something completely unrelated to the question.
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>>161589342
you don't just capture flags like an idiot, you have to capture and hold the right flags

it's like you've never played battlefield before, there's strategy to it
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>>161586064
ok thanks
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>>161588124
>he is unaware
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>>161591158
>playing domination
>Model 10 lyfe
>kill a guy
>one buddy spawns on him
>gets fucking dropped instantly before he even moves
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BF4 can look alright with a little help
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>>161594704
that amount of color is illegal. delet immediately
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>>161594826
I didn't change the saturation at all I just removed the brown and crushed the blacks a little
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why do people think squads are there for you to have 4 spawn points and then fuck off solo somewhere else entirely ?
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>>161591158
this literally just happened to me 3x in a row
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>>161595447
because that's how the game is designed

I've been saying this since 2010
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>>161595580
its not tho. you have 100% more sucess, kills, gameplay quality and fun if you stick together and work towards the same objective
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>>161595690
you get dumped into a random squad whether you want to be in one or not, you get free points, free spawns, so much free shit for no effort, even if you don't care about squad play why wouldn't you shit up a squad?

it's how the game is designed
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WHY IS THIS THREAD SO FUCKING DEAD ALL THE TIME GOD DAMN

THIS GAME IS FUCKING HUGE HOW IS NOBODY POSTING ABOUT IT
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>>161596007
yeah but you get even more if you stick together tho
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>>161478137
Martini is the kolibri of sniper rifles

if you're good, use m95

if you're not, use g98 for long ranges and mkIII for everything else
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>>161596602
Nothing to talk about.
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>>161596602
game doesnt contain cute girls, therefore it is dead
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>>161596906
fuck that, there are like 20 generals that have absolutely NOTHING to talk about because they're centered around some old SP game that nobody is making a sequel to, yet they survive
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>>161596602
The majority of people that play have their own little cliques that they formed in previous games and talk in their own external places
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>>161584354
I'm sorry, you must be confused

Look again, all of my SPM, broken down by class, is in the top 10th percentile. You can lose the get gud bullshit. Now, compare those percentiles to the overall SPM, 51%, it doesn't make sense

Now, is there a chance that this is because I exclusively play Conquest and that other game modes dish out more SPM on average per match? Because that is the only rational reason I can think of
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>>161584354
Oh so you just have an inflated ego, got it
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>>161597042
Some games have characters or lore that people like to discuss, or waifus to circlejerk over, or strategy, or build discussion.
Battlefield is just shoot the dudes the same way you've done it for the last 3 games.
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>>161597698
Are you illiterate?

Your game mode score is incredibly, laughably low. The points you are gaining IN conquest, from the mode itself, not points towards your class, are next to nonexistent. To break it down even further since you seem to have a disability - you're not capping flags.

Conquest is absolutely fine for gaining points. Stop playing it like team deathmatch and play the objectives and your SPM will rise.
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>>161463529
LzK killed /kspg/ because he was paid off by the game dev
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>>161596602
'active' generals are keept alive by shiposting, eceleb talk and story/lore discussion
thank god battlefield doesnt have that
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>>161598213
Ok well I don't know where you are getting the idea that I don't cap flags considering it's a toss up on whether I lead the entire category every single match and I finish in the top 7 literally every game

I'll try this one more time

the bottom portion of the image I posted is the percentiles for SPM

Each one of those percentiles is where I place globally for SPM for that class, being Medic top 10%, Assault top 7%, Support top 8%, Cavalry top 5%, Scout top 13%, Tanker top 8%

I hope you are still following me here

Now, the top of the image is my SPM global, and I'll ask one last time. Does Conquest, on average, give out less SPM than other game modes

I don't want to hear about flag capping or any of that nonsense
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>>161598892
You are actually so fucking retarded it hurts
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>>161599013
Alright fuck yourself, why am I even bothering

My overall BTR is 14% and you're trying to convince me that I am shit, it was a simple question, obviously you don't know the answer, feel free to not respond to the post in that circumstance
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>>161598892
yeah dude, it's all one big joke. everyone thinks conquest is by far the biggest mode and the mode the vast vast majority of the playerbase plays but actually we're all pranking you

literally 50% of us are all off playing TDM and fog of war, and those modes give hella more points, thats why we're higher than you. its not anything bad you're doing, it's all a big conspiracy to keep your spm shit

those thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people that only play conquest, and have a significantly higher spm than you? hackers.

you got epic trolled now man but now you know the truth. come join us in fog of war for the l33t points
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So anyone else getting FPS issues with only one map, Empire's Edge?
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Anyone got decent pictures of the Italian character models for the classes?
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>>161601284
I only have this pic
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how do you tell friendly from enemy mines ? both get the little icon above 'em
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>>161601665
shoot it to see if you get points
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>>161601807
REEE STOP SHOOTING FLAME TRAPS AND AT MINES
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How does the tripwire bomb work? Does it need to be next to a door?
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>>161602064
Well if you didn't set them I wouldn't shoot them
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>>161601559
Thanks.
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>>161601807
>>161602064
that shits fucking stupid i cant tell. the only time i can tell is when its in obvious points like AT mines in front of our vehicle spawn.
now i know why tanks shoot my friendly mines
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Why is the FK 95 multicolored on the campaign?
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>>161602119
enemy step on wire. trap explodes

there's a trick to getting the wire to be strung the way you want it but i dunno what it is
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>>161603026
When I place it, I just see the canister not the wire. What gives?
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will 2 incendiary tripmines kill someone?
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>>161603026
The wire attaches to whatever you're looking at when you plant it
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Best operations?

>>161603194
Just 1 can kill someone if they're stupid. Honestly giving 2 was overkill, I got plenty of kills before the buff.
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>>161603107
the wire shoots out in the direction you're facing when deploying the mine. although it can be a bit glitchy
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>>161603282
KAISERSCHLACHT NO DEBATE M8
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>>161603624
conquer hell has the only real trenching in the game
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>>161603282
Iron walls
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>play medic forever to try to be a team player
>crappy K/D but great SPM
>decide to switch it up
>go 25-3 on support

oh
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>>161603882
Fucking disgusting subhuman airchav
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>>161603701
>only real trenching.

Isn't it apparent that they're obviously trying to appeal to a different crowd.

*[I]eventually[/I]* they may throw *us* some red meat, but if that's going to happen, its not going to happen for a long time.
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>>161604070
>trying to bbs tag on 4chan
que
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>>161603701
>real trenching
90% of the trenches you cant even shoot out of when you stand up
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>It's a literally no one on the team is playing assault to take out the tank autist going 40-0 episode.
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>>161603950
think of all that time with the skill rifle as practice, maybe you have gotten gud
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>>161604132
I think, that what he means is that he perceives some irregularities with *their* presentation of world war I and that triggers him; so its not just me.

I'm not going to discuss what that is, because that just triggers tremendous ass-rage from people in this thread.
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Is the mortar variation of the artillery truck useful at all? It has a pretty fast ROF but the mortars don't seem very powerful. The smoke mortar can be nice depending on the map/team.
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>>161603950
It's possible to be a great teamplayer Medic and have a high KDR, just requires a different mindset. And ofc, self-preservation comes up above all else
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>>161604539
no I mean it's the only map in the game where you are dug into a trench defending against an attack

there are trenches on other maps but they are not often used
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>>161604687
yeah I was very much the squad leader playing objective and medic, going head first into situations

It worked out very well results wise, but I get lit up a lot

I think I deserve some ass kicking time
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>>161604843
Honestly, the Medic excels at murdering when he has good squadmates spearheading objectives

A huge chunk of Medic's killing speed is iron sighting, so if an enemy Assault or Support doesn't give you a chance to sight up, you are already at a massive disadvantage
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>>161604843
Damn, you guys are something special; getting mad about something like that?
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>>161578006
I got mine for 5 neo-pakistan dollarydoos and all the DLCs for free
It is the most cost-effective (dolarydoos/hour) game I have
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>>161603701
the last sector on ballroom blitz is absolutely retarded

>defenders get 2 tanks
>and a bomber/attack plane
>attackers get nothing
>have to advance with no cover to what is d and e flag on conquest

what a lopsided shitfest. the wall is basically a deathzone for the plane and tanks to farm infantry jumping over it to their deaths like the charge of the light brigade
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>>161605328
Also forgot to add, there's no better rifle for mass murdering than the Selb

>mfw getting a sick flank on a squad of cowering enemies and racking up 4+ kills
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>>161605840
>the last sector on ballroom blitz is absolutely retarded
I know, the attackers have such an adva--
>rest of your post
What the fuck. The attackers do get a tank, and the capzones for the last two points are so big that it's a breeze to capture. The giant fountain is mostly indestructible so you just have to hide behind a wall, and the trains are mostly indestructible so you just have to hide on the platform for the last point.
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>>161605328
this is a very accurate post

>>161605336
who's mad? Calm down son
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>>161605906
Is there a secret to the Selbstepladder? I can't kill anything with it compared to the Mondragon, but enemy medics tend to rip me a new one using it.
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>>161605906
I do prefer the dragon storm personally, it has very little recoil
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>>161606345
Aim and shoot lad
3 SHOTS
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>>161606456
It's only 3 shots to kill? Maybe I've just been using outside of it's range.
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>>161606212
Not him but the vehicle spawns are still very glitchy. Sometimes the enemy will get multiple spawns of their vehicles while your team gets none. I've had cases where my tank blew up and I waited for something like ten minutes in the spawn screen for it to respawn but it never did and instead I see 3 - 4 red tanks on the map and no blue ones. It leads me to believe that the game will sometimes give your tank spawn to the enemy, perhaps related to the bug that causes you to spawn without the vehicle you picked sometimes.
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>>161607184
As long as you hit torso it's 3 shots at any range.
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>>161606212
the two times i played to the last sector, the enemy had 2 tanks and we had none

d flag cap zone is just the area around the fountain, extremely small and easy for the bomber to murder everyone inside and the aa gun can be permanently destroyed in operations

you have to actually get past the fountain area and past the wall to reach the platform. on either side of the wall, there's absolutely no cover and the tanks can shoot over the wall without exposing themselves using the third-person headglitching tactic
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>>161606345
>>161606424
Mondragon is better at single/2 person engagements, but honestly it's practically the same thing. It's just that Selbs don't have a Storm variant or Sniper variant with bipod

Learn the "rythym" of the Selb rifles, they're basically vanilla Mondragons with a 25 round box mag. Why give up something that good?
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>>161607647
Mondragon has slightly better CQB performance due to a higher max rpm.

But funnily enough it has a worse long range performance when not bipodded due to having double the spread increase of the Selbs Marksman with only a small advantage in starting spread.
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>>161490072
I haven't lost that hard in a very long time. Thank you my dude
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>>161607913
I don't know how you guys ever use the marksman for skill rifle, way too confining
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>>161608393
Skill rifle? You mean the Autoloading 8 extended?

It kind of works like a Martini Henry, you get one kill per reload so you need to play in a way that minimises the chance of you getting doubleteamed or overwhelmed by multiple enemies. In exchange, it has an extremely high rof and half the spread increase of most of the other medic rifles, so it's unmatched in 1v1 scenarios. It's not the kind of playstyle most people enjoy but it has its uses.

If you are confident about securing ammo, feel free to dump all 5 rounds or even fire off the last shot at thin air - the empty reload is far faster than the 4 round individual one.
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>>161608960
Whoops, meant to say Autoloading 8 non-extended.
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>>161609060
I like the Marksman variant, but it's shit and I know it.
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>Been suffering through support
>Man this sucks a-
>Unlock the BAR
>Completely shit on everything
>Limpet charge every vehicle that dares get in my way because tank shitters have no awareness whatsoever
>This is my fucking class, it can't possibly get any bett-
>Unlock the BAR Storm
>Now cumming buckets
THIS is what Assault should've been. You can keep your shotguns that will inevitably get nerf'd next patch from all the public outcry, I found my shit.
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>>161613816
>20 rounds

keep it faggot
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>>161613816
OH SHIT AND I FORGOT TO MENTION
>Throw grenade/limpet charge
>Throw ammo pouches and get them back in 3 seconds flat
>Teammates constantly commending me because I'm apparently the one fucking guy in all of Battlefield 1 who is aware of the ability to throw ammo
>Because everyone always has no ammo I basically farm free points
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>>161613942
>Another "muh magazine" faggot
It isn't an issue assuming
A) You can actually aim
B) You are competent enough with your M1911 (which if you aren't using you're a retard)
Yes, the low weight LMG you unlock at rank 3 is pretty damn good, but you need to prone a lot with it beyond close range. The BAR is pretty damn effective at all ranges other than super far. The reload also takes all of 3 seconds.
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>>161613816
if you ever unlock the Huot Automatic Rifle ... don't touch it, it's fucking garbage
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>>161614191
>MUH BAR

Sorry faggot I cant hear you over my mg15 low weight, raining death on every cunt from behind enemy lines
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>>161614404
I'm not shitting on the MG15, I don't mind it )keep in mind I only have about an hour with it in total). I just don't like having to go prone/rely on cover to get consistent accuracy with it at extended ranges.

The BAR Storm with AA sights just clicks with me. I get way more kills and am just more useful in general with it. Also it is an absolutely beautiful gun.
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>>161613816
>>161613967
I hope you remember to put your limpet charges on buildings occupied with enemies.
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>>161614404
I want to like the MG15 but the iron sights/AA sights never line up right when using the bipod and it triggers me.
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>>161614634
Of course. That is one of the greatest things about the damn thing. It has no indicator whatsoever other than the tiny little explosive marker that pops up. Most players' eyes are trained to instantly recognize the grenade indicator, and they'll quickly dive away. Half the people I kill with the limpet never even knew I threw it.
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>>161605840
The 2nd to last is a lot harder to take, the enemy spawns right next to C, so it's almost impossible to hold for more than a minute.

Also a good trick I do for the last sector is to take the back exit, and sprint directly to that brick wall in front of B, then sneak into the tall house in B and hold it with your squad. You might not cap it, but half the team will run down the hill from A, making it easy for your team to take, and advance forward while they're clearing you out of the house at B
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>get 3 copies of The Hunter
>scrap 2
>buy a 450
>get The Konig
oh baby
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>>161616007
Fuck you
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>>161616007

>support main
>mfw this week's skins

All I want is that legendary MG15 so I can dakka in style.
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>>161616209
You can't even see it in game
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>>161616437
I guess if you're blind you can't.
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>>161616087
I got the hunter three times in a row too and then the Konig

im sorry anon
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>>161461507
Should I buy Battlefield 1 knowing that i'm gonna be spending a total of 100+ dollars for premium included
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>>161617013
It's alright lad, thank you
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>mfw want to level up scout
>absolutely hate scoped weapons, except the medic ones
>don't want to be a hillnigger
>try the gewehr infantry, aiming is not good enough to be good with it
>try the m1903 experimental
>that rof
>that suppression
>mfw I get more suppression points with the m1903 experimental than I do with LMGs
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>get in Oil of Empires queue
>only 4 people connected to the server
>wait a full minute
>7 people connected

This shit is stupid

They need to take 40-man operations and throw it in the fucking garbage, it's splitting matchmaking. I don't give a fuck if you have shit taste or your toaster can only handle 40 players at once.
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>>161617638
I love all the retarded guns in this game
>just unlocked 10-A hunter SLUG
>Killing scouts and snipermedics from 50+ meters
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>counter sniping with the SMLE infantry

scopes are for cowards.
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>>161619846
Am I the only one who uses the carbine version of scout guns?
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>>161619846
I've been switching between the SMLE and Geweher M95. I can't decide which I like better.
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>>161619846
M.95 Master race
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>Empire's Edge
>Some faggot squad composed entirely of A-10 Hunters locks down the castle
>We keep killing them, but somehow they keep coming back
>What the fuck
>They just back-cap the entire game and we stand no chance because eventually everyone gets tired
>It turned out they had a medic laying in the shallow water outside doing absolutely nothing but serving as a spawn point
>He wouldn't shoot or move, he just sat there
We're dealing with faggotry that was once though impossible. Nerf this fucking shotgun.
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>lvl 99
>47 service stars with the Hellreigal
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>tfw you're leading a squad that decently PTFOs
>map rotates to playing on ballroom blitz, understand the inevitable
>"if i don't make it, it's been an honor playing with you gents"
>less than a minute later, the game crashes

DICE FIX YOUR GAME I LEGIT CRIED A LITTLE ;-;

seriously I know the GTX 680 is getting a little up there in age but the game runs great except for the FUCKING CRASHES ON 4/9 MAPS
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>>161621986

Get an AMD GPU :^)

DICE and AMD are partners, that's business for you. It wouldn't be good for AMD's bottom line if the game ran better on the competition.

For what it's worth I get the problem occasionally on my AMD grafix card.
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ANON'S SUPPORT GUIDE BY ANON

>Primary: MG15 variant. Suppressive for long-range fighting or defense, Storm for run-and-gun fighting or attacking, Low Weight for in-between roles. Accept no substitute or you're gay
>Secondary: C93. The bulldog is also OK
>Grenade: Whatever you like
>Gadget 1: Ammo pouch. Crate shitters are cancer. Ammoless supports go to hell
>Gadget 2: Depends on the situation. Don't be retarded: Airburst mortars are for infantry, HE mortars are for tanks and trains.
>Melee: Again, whatever

HOW TO PLAY

>If you have a bipod, use that shit as much as possible. On defense, find a spot where you can take cover from hillniggers and shoot enemies as they cross open ground. On offense, flank the enemy, go prone where you're hidden from hillniggers, and annoy the enemy team
>If you're using the Storm, keep moving and cheese anything you see in close-medium range with your bottomless magazine. Very effective for wiping squads of camping enemies or beating assaults at their own game outside of the A10/automemeico range
>spam ammo at allies at every opportunity
>don't resupply inert scrubs who refuse to play objectives
>resupply yourself frequently, you get your grenades back after a short delay and depleted gadgets back (including mortar bases) after a slightly longer delay
>win games
>get bitches
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>>161625306
Why the C93?
It kicks harder, does less damage and has more spread while moving than the Mle.
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>>161619985
I prefer the carbines to the infantry because of the amazing hipfire buff

problem is super aggresive sniping in this game is punished too hard by the automemeico faggots everywhere, so I usually just equip the SMLE marksmen instead and stay back a bit
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How are you supposed to use the damn M1903 experimental?
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>>161626939
click really fast and hope they aren't facing you
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>>161598443
This. Look at Destiny generals for example, it's full of cringe posting & full of namefags for no fucking reason.
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>>161596602

It's honestly better off this way. /bfg/ during bf4 was used as a circlejerk full of powerrankings, mediocre webms, and planeposters.
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>>161620228
How? What game mode do you usually play? I just don't really dig the feel of the gun. I'm startling to like the Russian Infantry though.
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>Steamrolling enemy team on Amiens
>Enemy team back-caps
>They start steamrolling us
>I recommend we back-cap
>I spawn in an armored car who is behind enemy lines
>He drives right past B, fuck back-capping
>Explain why we should cap it
>He is literally just joyriding with his friend trying to get kills
>They hit a mine and die
>I die trying to cap B alone
>We lose by 150 points despite at one point having an over 200 point lead
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>armored car
>i get in as driver and my gunner can't aim
>i get in as a gunner and i get driven into a tank
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>>161628997
Mostly Operations, the defined front line means you don't have to worry about getting shot in the back as much. Sometimes rush and conquest though.

Yeah I liked the Russian Infantry more for a while, but the faster RoF of the Gewehr + 90 damage at close range makes it more flexible for all situations, just takes practice.
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>>161596602
everything that remotely took skill/was interesting to git gud at and were able to share webms like the SRAW is not a thing anymore with Bf1

>planes
pretty boring, straight forward, predefined loadouts so you can't even share what little there was in bf3/bf4 with different loadouts

>helis
none

>tanks
also straight forward with different predefined loadouts, not that there were a lot of different things you could use in earlier games but you were still able to talk about them
also most importantly no little birds/attack helis to shoot down with your tanks/tow missile from LAW so the whole share a webm falls away

>classes
maybe a sick scout headshot you could share in webm other than that no SRAW webms anymore. We can't even talk about different attachments since they're predefined except for maybe the scope magnification-


there weren't a lot of things to talk about in other battlefields but all in all the package still kept people talking about small gameplay elements, someone sharing a new emblem for the platoon but even this feature isn't a thing
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>>161629559
This was exactly what I was afraid of. Everyone was so excited about the WW1 setting, and the first thing I had doubts about were guns and vehicles.

This is exactly why they should've set it in WW2.
>Light tanks could've essentially been glorified armored cars with infantry shredding guns but very little armor penetrating ability (maybe the Leopard or Stuart?)
>Medium tank could've been the generic decent speed decent armament (Sherman or T-34)
>Heavy tank could've been slow as fuck, take forever to turn, but be armed to hell and back (Tiger)

Not to mention all the guns. Make the Medic your standard riflemen with the choice of the M1 Carbine, Garand, Enfield, Mosin, etc.

Assault gets the Thompson, PPSH, STEM, etc. Plus actual rocket launchers. Could've made it interesting by throwing in different types like the generic bazooka and the fire-and-forget panzerfaust.

I'm just spitballing here. My 5 minute think tank instantly has more depth than this non-teamwork based game.
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>>161631479
I honestly hope the next BF is WWII, with both the Pacific and European theatres

I want to *unsheathes katana* as an Imperial Japanese officer and cut down the burger pigs
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M95 best sniper
Sweetspots are for shmucks, the only one you'll ever need is the head
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>>161632653
Also also the mars automatic pistol feels completely broken, 3 hit kill at decent ranges with 11 bullets, fucking wot m80
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>>161632653
>Playing sniper
How does it feel not contributing to your team at all.
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>>161631479
>This is exactly why they should've set it in WW2.
That really doesn't explain why they had to lock everything being presets.
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>>161632790
Yeah, as soon as I click on sniper I get issued a restraining order, barring me from going close than 200m to a flag
Just because you're a shitter who can't ptfo as a sniper doesn't mean everyone is, anon
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>want to play something that isn't assault
>enemy has a dozen tanks
>team full of assaults doesn't do jack shit
For fuck's sake
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>>161632943
>tfw only 2 flares when no one plays support
>tfw no good non-sniper scout primary
Bring back universal weapons.
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>>161633245
Luckily my friend play support most of the time, so we've got 24/7 flare coverage wherever we go
He also lays down the surpressive fire and pings them while I finish them off, it works pretty well that way
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Oh also, start shooting on planes if they're passing by, especially as scout. You can annoy them incredibly hard. For bombers you just unzip your k-rounds and destroy their engines, or just flat out snipe the guys out of it because they're always incredibly slow. Smaller planes you just pling at, like 8 damage a shot adds up, and they'll want to focus you, making them useless.
>focus attack plane
>unload clips into it as it flies by or tries to harass
>tries to go for a run on me, obviously annoyed
>misses
>friendly hunter plane on its heels a moment later
Based
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I just bought Battlefield 1 Ultimate Edition for xbox one since I had some spare money laying around.
Now waiting for it to download.
I wanted another casual console shooter to replace bf4 and it's small dying playerbase.
Playing BF4 on PC is just a pain with the battlelog.


Post best pistols/sidearms
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>>161634032
Gasser & all the 450rpm sidearms variants.
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I'm kinda disappointed by the fact that there'll be DLC weapons soon.

Was it the same to BF4?
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>Selbstlader 1906 Factory
>not Selbstlader 1906 Storm
>meanwhile it's ok to have nice things like Hellriegel & Memerini for rank 10
Someone explain this logic. How can someone fuck this up in such a retarded way.
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>>161634303
+1 for gasser. Just be sure to die before you ever need to reload it, since respawning and running back is faster.
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>>161634741
Someday I'll make a webm called reloading the gasser of Ocelot vs Snake from MGS3, the part where he had some orgasm or shit when reloading his revolver.
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>>161634847
I don't know about 3, but I'm pretty sure in mgs1 he reloads faster than the gasser.
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>>161634032
Mars automatic for recon, as stated above
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>already 2 (two) days into December
>no new map yet
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>>161634847
You're pretty good...
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>>161634847
I want to see this
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>>161628997
git gud, get headshots, onehit bodyshot niggers who are even a little hurt
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>>161638157
Started using it recently
It is really fucking fun for some reason
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>>161594704
How?
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>>161594704
>qbs
L m a o
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>>161484670
>As they are now theyre much better than at launch, but that being said, I know that half the toe to toe firefights I win at mid range are due to the suppression buff in the last patch

I know this is a while back but thats why I actually win firefights using a LMG besides the BAR I actually like the LMGs but they really need a accuracy buff or like you said a decrease in accuracy gain time.
Also is it worth trying to kill a tank alone if my team is retarded? Tanks and vehicles in general are fucking strong and can repair really fast and I don't think on person is even enough to scare a tank away let alone destroy it. I know it doesn't make sense for one person to do that but with the state of the game and the average player (hell I suck ass too) I feel like I gotta try something or they will go uncontested. I play tons of support and try to prioritize my assault teammates but they try to use their AT rifle to snipe people instead of tanks.
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>>161620228
This my nigga.

Gewehr M.95 infantry is the only acceptable choice, otherwise I use the 98 to scope faglords out of the blimp for easy salt.
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>>161634032
1911 is well rounded. Revolvers arent as good now since they lost one shot headshot multiplier. Post gamertag.
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how 2 get kills with rifle grenades
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>>161639179
Why is anybody having a problem with this medal
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>>161638397
reshade
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>>161639013
98 is the god of long range with that bullet velocity. 9/10 aesthetics too only problem is the empty reload still shows a bullet in the mag instead of the follower.
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What is the Metro of BF1 and why is it Amiens?
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>>161641245
You mean Argonne Forest?
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>>161641245
It's not amiens
More of a tie between Argonne and Suez
I'll tell you what, Argonne can be Locker, and Suez can be Metro
They're all shit
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>>161641245
Suez.
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>>161461507
>>>161641245
>You mean Argonne Forest?
>>161461507
>>>161641245
>It's not amiens
>More of a tie between Argonne and Suez
>I'll tell you what, Argonne can be Locker, and Suez can be Metro
>They're all shit
>>161461507
>>>161641245
>Suez.

>Argonne
>Suez

How? B, C, D, E are literally corridor shooting fests on Amiens. I also meant in terms of arsthetics
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>>161641598
armiens has lots of flexibility, so does argonne

in suez you just lie behind a dune spamming grenades all day just like the staircase in metro
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>>161641959

>Metro

>that escalator of doom
>the locker room campfests

Actually, the ballroom in ballroom blitz gives me metro vibes.

Is it wrong to be nostalgic about Metro? I hope a remastered version is in BF1 DLC
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I'm still confused as shit by the maps to this date.

Isn't Sinai desert the one with sniping fests? Which one is Suez then?
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>>161642198
>is it wrong to be nostalgic about metro

yes. metro, karkand inf only, bc2 rush, cancer, pure cancer killing battlefield

park area of metro was actually pretty good but only in the alpha due to the different layout, I guess they thought it was too much fun and swore to make rush shit forever
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>>161642269
Sinai and Suez are both deserts.

Sinai is the snipefest with objective G all the way to the side in the middle of nowhere and C in the village.

Suez is linear desert.
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>>161642347

why is there fog on those desert maps anyway

either way they're both shitty snipefests
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>>161642391
Sinai is legit one of the best maps in the game though. I'm sorry you can't break line of sight with the numerous rocks and ditches provided for the purpose.
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>>161641245
Amiens has flanking
Suez is awful because tehre's barely any flanking potential
Argonne is okay, first I detested it but I'M okay with it now for some reason
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>>161641245
Amiens is Seine Crossing
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>>161644354
WHY HAVEN'T I MADE THIS CONNECTION BEFORE?!
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>>161642328
What changed? I know the LAV was removed and B was moved to the other side of the bridge.
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>>161472340
No it doesn't. Once you pick up a pouch, your health will tick up and keep ticking up until it either reaches 100, you take damage again or you run into gas. You can't even pick up a second pouch while the first one is still active on you.
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>>161479631
Play Monte Grappa on Operations. Once the bunker fuckfest begins, you can rack up rifle grenade kills like crazy by just spamming the frag version through the bunker doors.
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>>161487275
I actually kinda prefer the C96 carbine over the Frommer Stop. It can still put out a crazy amount of lead via button-mashing and is actually good out to ranges comparable with the shorter-ranged Medic guns. The Frommer is hilarious, but the C96 just has that flexibility.

Both do kinda pale in the face of our lord and saviour, the sawn-off boomstick, though.
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>>161487996
>>161488048
Also, the Hellriegel is a lot of fun. Plays more like a BF3/4-style assault rifle rather than a hipfire SMG, though the hipfire is still good enough that you will fuck up an Automatico user unless he plays it perfectly.
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>>161644463
that's basically it, and the map flows a lot better that way, the LAV is great at breaking stalemates and you have more options for how to approach the points, more of the map gets used

could also drive the LAV into the tunnel and make capping the second points easier too with heavy covering fire
>>
>wanted the koenig skin for the mg15 lw
>sold a puzzle piece, a xp boost and a bunch of shit skins for weapons I didn't use
>bough a 900 battlepack
>it fucking dropped
now that was a twist I didn't see coming
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>>161646195
i just wanted it for the name to be honest, i like the simple camo one better but then again it isnt called the könig
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>>161644354
I'm baffled how I didn't realize this sooner, holy shit.
Now when I look at it it's like they copy pasted them.
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>tfw wasted warbonds because infantry sniping looked cool

Back to spraying and hitting nothing with my lmgs
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>>161646973

You get like a trillion warbonds after a few hours anyways
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>>161481696

Bad Company is more of the straightforward, I hate to say casualized but you know what I mean by that. More pseudo arena shooter than BF is at least. focus on fastness, mobility, CQC and not fighting at a distance.

What I want from the next battlefield is:

-WW2
-Operations made possible for dedicated servers and not matchmaking.
-More of the BF4 tacticool accessory model than the BF1 emphasis on different weapons locked into their function. While an abundance of reflex sights will be annoying to see there's still a lot of the more minor accessories that make sense to be pick-and-choose: Compensator vs flashhider vs bayonet (I know you could have a compensator or flash hider with bayonet, but this is a game gimmick), foregrip vs drum magazine vs jungle-mag, different stocks. Some weapons could be distinct on their own without upgrade accessories, like say a tommygun chicago typewriter that you unlock with foregrip and drum mag.
-LMG overheating differs depending on the LMG to make different ones competitive in different roles (20-30 round autorifle sorts only overheat if you reload-resupply-fire nonstop for like 3 mags)
-Get rid of 'more you fire more accurate you become'. Replace it with proper GPMGs like MG34/42 or Slav dishgun being atrociously godawful hipfiring but incredible when bipoded. 20-30 LMG better hipfire but still encourage bipod use more.
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which is the true successor to metro? Is it argonne forest or suez?
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>>161649605

Argonne is more cancerous and boring
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Scout buff when?

At least sort out the sweet spot nonsense.

How can they encourage aggressive sniping when you're only doing 90 damage to the chest from a meter away and the fagtron has a meme gun from the medic or assault class with a fire rate through the roof?
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>>161650336

I have a proposal

>sweet spot sizes vastly increased
>rifle firerates vastly decreased
>have to hold left shift ("focus") for an accurate shot

There, scout is balanced now, no more 2HKOs
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>>161646973
Don't give up, it takes practice and a different gameplay style.
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>>161650459
>have to hold left shift ("focus") for an accurate shot

Aren't we already supposed to do that?
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>>161650743

Yeah, the tooltip is there when you zoom in but as far as I can tell it does absolutely nothing
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>>161650336
It's to encourage aggressive sniping, not aggressive scouting. If you want to play aggressive scout you should be using the M95. The idea was to push scouts closer to the frontlines, instead of having them integrate their bodies with a grassy knoll.

It works in my opinion, because I find sniping far more fun now, but not nearly well enough for everyone else it seems, as most players still plop on a hill and sit all game plinking.
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>join game
>lose immediately
>get battlepack

battlepacks, how do they work?
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>be scout defending room
>put down incendiary
>people get burnt before shot to death
>fire goes out
>repeat with second incendiary
>fire goes out
>put spotting flare right inside the doorway
>people think they'll finally be able to rush in, only to run over it and start panicking
>tfw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw

Thanks for the double incendiaries, Dice. All I want for christmas is to be able to use both spotting and flash flares.
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>>161650459
That would just encourage more sitting on a hill because you have to make each shot count.

Better solution
>Increase close range damage
>Add scope glare to marksman variants
>Add a carbine version for all rifles
>Slightly increase hipfire accuracy
>Slightly increase fire rate
>Slightly decrease muzzle velocity
>Add more bullet drop

This makes long range sniping harder and makes close range more viable.
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>>161651547
get rid off all scopes for scouts expect 3,4x on 1
get rid of scopes for medics entirely
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>>161632709
Low RoF, spread is pretty bad, irons are gross.
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>>161651269
Feel they should buff the 1895 trench. For a gun that should be used in CQC, the damage isn't enough to make up for it's small mag and slower rate of fire than medic rifles.
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what magnification levels do you use? I run 2 on lmgs, 2 on the iron sight snipers, base on assault weapons and sidearms, switch it up on the medic, haven't found a weapon I really like with him
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>>161651923
>how to make game bad
Fuck off.
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>>161651547
>increase close range damage

that was a HUGE problem in BC2, it's the whole reason no rifles other than the m9*'s have OHK'd at close range since bf3
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>>161652860
no its how you make it good tho
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>>161653412
Just give me a sawn-off or weak automatic pistol-conversion so I can run around like I did with the Vintorez and balls in BC2, except this time the ball also sets people on fire.
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need a new thread
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>>161654732
>>161654732
>>161654732
new
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>>161651547
so you basically just want the return of the bf4 basr acting as ghetto shotguns

too bad for you, because everything from the extremely high bullet speed, lack of noticeable drop until ~180m and sweet spot mechanic was designed to enphasise that the scout's effective engagement range is medium-long distance and they should be punished for going cqc. and dice isn't going to upend their core gameplay design philosophy anytime soon
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