/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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Describe your game using only other games

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>>161600147
A game like no other.

let's talk networking

Getting called out
https://youtu.be/a83Qk3j-1e4?t=728

>>161600147
it's like skyrim plus WoW, but with dark souls combat. pm me if you're a programmer, artists, sound guy, or level designer

>>161600473
I hate people and wished building a career wasn't 95% this.

>>161600436
> has no game

>>161600147
It's like legend of zelda windwaker meets thomas was alone

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>>161600147
Harvest Moon meets elements from Ar Tonelico meets WW visuals meets small scale meat industry

It's a game for me and nobody else!

>>161600509
>4chan
>the worst place on the internet
Not in a long time, if ever.
>no rules
Yeah right..

The way he talks about lurking makes me think of lizard aliens infiltrating human society.

>>161600147
dark souls plus super mario 64

with a furry protag
codename "super bark souls 64"

>>161600590
Correct.

>>161600838
you had me until the spoiler m8

>>161600147
its like metroid and castlevania

>>161600147
Kirby Kong Country

>>161600509
>nervously laughing while telling the redditors there that he doesn't spend too much time there
Strong cuck. Trying to be politically correct about it when I'm sure 80% of that audience are 4channers.

>>161600147
nes castlevania

>>161600147
watch dogs 2 + overwatch

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>>161600147
It's like your game except it actually exists.

>>161600473
>>161600556
this

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Humans now die and leave a blood splatter when you walk on them.

>>161600147
SCP with HM graphics.

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>>161600907
I'm slightly ashamed of myself, don't worry

see you demo day 12

>>161600147
it's like Final Fantsy 3 (US) and Final Fantsy 6 (JAP)

>>161601547
HM?

>>161601484
is the blood splatter supposed to be a footprint? if so they're currently all facing the same direction. if not, maybe have a couple variation splatter sprites to break repetition.

>>161601484
>Humans now get raptured and leave their orange sweater behind when you walk on them.
fify

>>161601636
>it's not even small and charming
Anon stop, you can still save your game

>>161601657
Hotline Miami

>>161601636
see you in the constant position in first row of demoday 12 listings despite posting the game within the last hour

>>161601657
Harvest Moon

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>>161601636

>>161601657
Honster Munter

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>>161600147
It's like Armored Core except worse in every possible way.
I also have nothing done for it yet, been trying to learn 3D modeling

>>161601676
>>161601678
Yeah I need to sort my shit out, needs to be more red, more footprinty and make it come up in the other direction if the player hits them from the other way.

>>161601657
Hatred: Middleschool

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>>161601769
its too late for me, I'm a broken individual

>>161601827
I could always leave the character out of the thumbnail, and the game itself isn't going to be lewd or anything

>>161602005
The thumbnail of that picture made me think there was a cute girl mecha sitting on the big one's shoulder. Disappointed to find out it wasn't true. Is your game going to have cute girl mecha?

>>161602327
i didn't say that's a bad thing though

>>161602327
>its not lewd
>generic furry fuck face
If you're not gonna try to make a decent looking video game just go for the money, dude.

>>161602430
No.
Now fuck off weeb.

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>>161602430
I will probably add mecha parts that are feminine. Like pic related.

Fuck 3D is hard. Can any blender bro give me some tips on how to make this better? Its supposed be a train bench in spirited away.

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>>161600147
Its sokoban and captain toad had a baby.

>>161602675
Looks good to me

>>161601676
What language?

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>>161602675

>>161602652
Beautiful.

>>161602830
Don't use Ortho mode. Switch to perspective with Num5

>>161602327

I still feel bad about that. Almost every single other game deserved more attention.

>>161602675

I like the minimal aesthetic you have going there

>>161602830
That looks like a train chair to me, those seats are pretty minimalist, so it fits well.

>>161602768
oops meant for
>>161602067

How do I into really low-poly (clothed) humans? Anything I make falls appart when i start rigging and animating.

>>161602991
I really don't think the placement matters that much, and its not your fault, though I think itch.io should shuffle them on every load. But yes, sadly the preview image can determine a majority of the clicks a game gets. I think they should be designed to be as flashy as possible and get people to click, then the screenshots should be of the actual gameplay. I wouldn't call this deceptive especially when hovering over the tiles gives you the screenshots.

>>161603635
latex suits/drawn on/modeled in clothing, depends on if you want the clothing removable or changeable.

or you just keep the clothing very close to the body and weight it exactly the same as the underlying body vertices.

you can also make a separate bone for the parts of the clothes that move/clip the most and adjust them as needed

>>161603565
Java using LibGDX

bye agdg

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>>161604785

>>161604785
where are you going?

I tried asking this in /vn/ but since it's a game mechanic design question might as well give it a shot here too.

For the purpose of delivering a story, are there any games that give "scenes" our of a random pool of scenes, with restrictions based upon variables? For example, the pool of scenes wouldn't include those requiring CHAR1 to be alive if CHAR1DEAD = 1, so these won't show up at all. Certain conditions could instead alter the weighting of the scene's selection from the pool. Additionally, scenes that have already been displayed do not re-occur.

A sort of extremely non-linear way to deliver a plot. Even more so than the widest branching structures, because the chronology of everything can be radically altered with each play-though. While a VN is the obvious use of this structure it could be used anywhere where the game is split into different story sections.

I'm researching this in the hopes that it provides some information that I could use in my own game design.

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>>161600838
>super bark souls

fucking top kek

I can't name my female character

What's a cute name I can use

>40 minute post gap
I want to see your 40 minutes of progress right now.

>>161608057
Watching the game awards

>>161608057
In the process of fixing what I thought to be a fixed system.

>>161608093
The fuck are you talking about?

>>161607854
Heres a list

https://youtu.be/04uN57jOg-Q?t=43

>>161600628
>Ar Tonelico
Ma nigga. Love me some Ar Tonelico. Doesn't get enough love I feel.

>>161605235
This is easy to accomplish with basic programming knowledge. Do you have any programming experience?

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What should be my top priority for replacement to make my computer able to run Unreal Engine 4 better? It works ok now on top settings, but it's a little slow when like compiling shaders and stuff. Should it be Processor -> Graphics Card -> RAM?

MonoBehaviours not having constructors is really just fucking retarded.

>>161608093
begin watching game awards.

robotic humanoid safety razor fistbump a Ryan Seacrestesque showhost

end watching game awards, thank you i have seen enough

>>161608642
yup, that pentium is a bit on the weak side

>>161608093
As if the Oscars and other shit like that weren't unnecessary enough.

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Is this progress? Is this in any way stimulating?

>>161609009
>butt implants

>>161602680
Can't remember if you said you had boss battles or something similar. Looking good though!

>>161609009
>Is this in any way stimulating?
This is agdg, where some are so sex starved that simply saying "nude woman squatting" is enough to promote turgidity.

>>161608507
I already know it's well within my programming capabilities for implementing an IF or VN style game using a random scene pool. I am even considering making a game engine to utilise a simple .txt file syntax, since AFAIK all existing engines of this nature are designed primarily for strict branching structures.

I just want to know if anything else is doing it so I can look at.
1. How many scenes they use
2. How large the random scene pool gets at any given time
3. How complex the conditions get for pulling scenes into and out of the pool.
4. Whether they use something like a time progression to cycle scenes into and out of the pool. For instance, the game plays a daytime scene followed by a nighttime scene via alternating between TIME=0 and TIME=1
5. And, of course, to play it and see how well it works.

>>161609009
why is she doing that

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Space traffic!

Combat tomorrow. Exciting stuff.

I've kind of got stuck with my game.

I had some ideas, and I've done them. But I do not have a game, just a framework for a game and a collection of cool things.

I don't really know where to go from here.

I'm about to buy playmaker. Somebody stop me.

>>161610553
>playmaker
what?

>>161610321
If you've got the mechanics down, start adding content, levels, or whatever else.
What sort of game is it? What sort of stuff do you have done?

>>161609009
I mean, It looks pretty well made, if that's what you're asking. Not sure about 'Stimulating'

>>161609171
Im working on all the games levels first and then doing all the boss battles last.

Considering them still really. Its tough to think about how a puzzle games boss should be but il get to that challenge when im done with all the main levels.

>>161610819
It's all set up for an android 2d platformer, it just needs art and level design. But I cannot do art, so instead there's a neat lighting system and particle simulation.

I don't really know what I'm going to do with it, but it looks a lot nicer than any art I could create myself

If I designed a level, and made a webm of my game, would anons give me constructive advice, or just the shitposting i normally see on agdg?

>>161609740
I'm a big slut for space. Tell me more.

>>161611196
what engine

>>161612112
I'm using LibGDX, and Box2D

>>161610553
Real programming is a useful, life-applicable skill that you should take the time to learn.

>>161612360
how experienced are you with it. would you recommend it

>>161612954
I've spent a few months using it, and I really like it.
It's been compatible and has had libraries for everything I've needed, so I would recommend it.

>>161613323
yeah i'm using it too. it's good

Pretty good for day 1 I say.

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>>161613603
Forgot the gif.

So, I'm about to start on a phone project using Unity. I know how to use Unity. What I'm mostly looking for is some guide to show someone a few tips to how to approaching organization, and creation for a platform like ios.

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So I finally was able to save in Unreal 4. I honestly can't remember what finally got it to work at this point but whatever.

I've run into a new problem, though. I can't seem to be able to save user-placed actors in the game, only the ones that were placed by me in the editor

I thought I could save the actors in another array located in the save actor, get their classes, and spawn them every time the game is loaded since their location data is also saved. But it seems as though even though I save the actors in another array in the exact same way I saved the data that was successfully kept and applied, the array just ends up with a big fat null in each index where there should be an actor. I can't just use spawnActor and manually set the class because there are a bunch of different subclasses that get similar data saved to the same array.

I can't really find a tutorial on this. The only video I found that had multiple identical actors saving different data had those actors placed in the editor and never had to deal with player spawned objects

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Hey all you really good modellers. How well does 'paper' art translate to 3d?

>>161613948
>[aircraft noises]

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>>161614120
check out the latest paper mario
it looks pretty good imho

>>161614120
The foundations are all the same, of course. And instead of having to visualize forms and do your own lighting, well, you work directly with forms and the lighting is rendered for you.

>>161614265
>color splash
>sticker star
>super paper mario
Why can't it just be Paper Mario? That formula obviously worked with PM and PM:TTYD

>>161614265
Was asking how well 2d skills translate to 3d

>>161611829
It's a 4X/RTS with a dynamic map where the planets and moons actually move / orbit, so you can setup little ambushes by say camping on the farside of a moon and then launching your attacks when the planets align.

>>161614562
I guess for making textures, and proportions, but generally it is different

>>161614405
Nintendo literally said this:

>"You want a Mario RPG? Buy the Mario and Luigi series."

This must be what being triggered is like

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How would you feel about playing a sidescroller level from right to left?

>tfw making first game
>literally is just a microwave and things to put in the microwave
>wrote out stupid story about the guy's slow descent into depression and mania
>not sure if I can convey this by microwaving cans of beans until they explode

>>161614810
Sickened, because that is not how I read with my filthy gaijin eyes.

>>161614810
Feels pretty awkward.

>>161614847
Anon this sounds like the stupidest great game ever. Please post progress.

>>161614810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEZWYXPvmS8

>>161600147
it's like classic Castlevania meets a sledgehammer to the thigh

>>161614847
microwave lasagna

>>161615010
Sounds like any other zany youtube-bait game.

>>161600147
It's Megaman Zero with Ace Attorney profile-building

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>>161614810
meh

>>161600509
why is that hair style so common? it's so fucking stupid

>>161615115
I just want to see beans in a microwave, dont ruin my fun

>>161615010
I'm currently just started. I'm modeling the microwave.

>>161615060
I made a lift of things one could find in the kitchen to start out.


Basically the concept is each day you receive one of the following:
>a message on your answering machine
>a note
>some weird thing talking to you
>etc.

These various things mean you need to solve a problem in your kitchen. The first example is day one you girlfriend leaves a message asking if you're ok. That day requires you to figure out to take out the picture from the frame on the wall of you and your girlfriend and put it in the microwave to burn it.

Slowly things get weirder, like outside the window are landscapes. Little gremlins inside of cabinets, and weirder problems to solve for the things.

Honestly I couldn't think of a game idea. I don't know.

>>161615328
sounds pretty awesome, I retract:
>>161615115

game awards show is over
What absolute trash, not even memeing.
Time to dev again

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>>161615228
It's the latest indie trend. You must follow the trends if you want to be a real indie dev.

>>161615546
>freeman

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>>161615328
>Honestly I couldn't think of a game idea. I don't know.
>couldn't think of idea
>comes up with best idea I've seen on /agdg/ in actual years
>better than my ideas

>>161615546
Is top left the only one identifying as a gender different from the other three?

>>161615530
Why would you even watch that? You can take 10 seconds to just read all the winners after the show is done.

>>161615328
If you don't pull shitty graphics on this, you got a solid thing going on there.

>>161615692
>box color denotes gender
fucking shitlord, don't assume that box's gender

>>161600147
Transcendence of a Dead Solar Empire

>>161615891
Oh it's gonna be shitty. I can only do Low Poly.

>>161615967
I think you might have legal issues with that one I'm afraid.

>>161615775
There was a big ad for it on Steam, so I thought it was something being done by valve

>>161615328
That sounds really solid anon.

>>161616160
fresh off the boat from /v/eddit eh?

>>161616160
I didn't see any ad for it on Steam. Valve is running their own game award thing though, but that is something later this month, not the one today.

>>161616024
Low poly =/= shit. Just depends on how you make it, desu.

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>>161616036
I'm not going to be sued by George Moromisato, Star Dock and Q Switched Productions because I haven't even made a game

>>161616330
how about flat shaded meme poly?

>>161615546
>jews, jews, and trannies

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Got carnivores aka walking shitbrick working. They attack herbivores until those are dead and spawn a carcass, then eat from the carcass. Both types now lay eggs when satiated, which hatch into another one of them without anything special.


At this point I consider the tech demo complete. There's no sound, animation, or even harm avoidance behaviour, but the GOAP framework is functioning as it should, is well expandable, and doesn't produce leaks if handled correctly. I will therefore cease development on this example project and start something else.

>>161609740
That looks really cool anon. What are you planning on making with a game of that scale?

When creating a "beam" super weapon in GM:S (standard shmup laser stuff) how am I supposed to go about extending it across the entire screen? Is it common to just draw one that is longer than the screen or do people usually stretch a shorter one to make it fit?

>>161616595
Sorry, didn't see >>161614698
Either way, I look forward to seeing more of this.

>>161616545
rip herbivores
Are you gonna release the source?

Does anyone have some good suggestions for blender tutorials?

>>161617045
I was planning on it, though I don't want to use the asset library, because that would imply proper versioning and maintenance. I'm still undecided on whether I create a blog for my gamedev and put it there or just post it to the forum. Or maybe both. I have little experience with actually "releasing" stuff. Gotta read up on licenses, too, so I don't put something on there I don't actually want (like "must release anything containing this code as free" or "non-commercial only".

>>161615115
It doesn't though. That was an original idea.

Calm your salt and make a game.

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>tfw your AI is too unpredictable to get good footage, but is still funny

>>161617494
Yes it does. Calm your salt and make a game.

>>161617403
jonathan williamson is a fine lad to learn from

>>161614080
Bumping this before I sleep on it

>>161617614
Name a "zany youtube-bait" game that it's similar to.
>mfw you have nothing
>mfw you are bringing this on yourself because you're a salty nodev

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCaw_26Z2BU

>>161600147
Kirby meets Mighty Number 9

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stay up an extra hour tonight bitch. if you don't get it done now you won't get it done tomorrow

Freespace 2 but bad, boring, and with no character.

>>161617718
it's the same tier of humor as any other wacky hikinks game
>lmao da beans asploded
>lmao da qwopman felled over
>lmao i dwopped the patients heart
>lmao da goat has ragdoll physics

>mfw you have no game

>>161617798
Why should I listen to an actual cannibal?

World of tanks, but the building from Robocraft and Ksp.

>>161617798
>if you don't get it done now you won't get it done tomorrow
W-why? Are we all going to die?

>>161617907
>it's the same tier of humor as any other wacky hikinks game
Yeah you already said that. Stay salty nodev.

>>161617963
Because if you do it tomorrow you reach tomorrow and suddenly tomorrow isn't today it's tomorrow again

>>161615328
>The first example is day one you girlfriend leaves a message asking if you're ok. That day requires you to figure out to take out the picture from the frame on the wall of you and your girlfriend and put it in the microwave to burn it.
I dunno, this does sound kind of "random xd" to me. What exactly are you solving?

>>161618081
nice game faggot

>>161617907
>get message from girlfriend asking if you're ok
>going slowly insane
>have to burn the photo of you two together to progress

Sure is wacky!

>>161615115
>>161617614
>>161617907
>>161618182
Where is your game kiddo?

>>161618242
Where's your game kiddo?

>>161617907
It has the danger of coming across as pretentious if he does it wrong, but wacky meme-bait it is not

>someone has a good idea for a game
>nodev ideaguy gets increasingly rowdy and jealous
Oh boy we're getting extra triggered over this one aren't we.

>>161618413
game where

>>161618242
>>161618303
Where's your game kiddso?

>>161618242
>>161618303
>>161618518
Where be your game, laddie?

Tell me the whereabouts of your entertainment software, wee man!

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>>161618558
I'm trying to work out saving actors created by the player but it's not going well.

>>161617907
>qwop
>surgeon simulator
>goat simulator
Those are just the 3 top known ragdoll games you basic bitch. Literally had nothing to do with that anon's idea. Stop posting.

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Can you Animate better than AAA studio /agdg/?

>>161618707
>beans xd

>>161618767
Oh fuck

Please PLEASE tell me that's Andromeda

>>161618850
It is anon!

>>161618876
I WANT IT TO BE THE WORST THING SINCE UGLY AUTISTIC ASARI, ANON

>>161618812
Yes that anon's game included the idea of putting beans in a microwave. What did that have to do with the question about OTHER games in the "wacky youtube" genre?

Stop posting.

>>161618967
>in the microwave xdddd

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>yfw maximo is free

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im making a boring 3d side scroller

why doesnt your game have beans in the microwave?

>>161619069
Pardon?

>>161619141
Cause there's no electricity in my game

>>161619141
It's clearly too whacky

>>161619141
Haven't coded the accurate electricity model yet. Also, plantlife hasn't evolved to bean-like plants yet. Gotta wait for that neural network.

>>161619161
fug meant to say mixamo

>>161619190
gotta throw a pigskin full of beansauce into the fire as a symbolic destruction of your relationship with your cavewife

>>161619309
I can launch pork into the sun with crystals, is that good enough?

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REMEMBER THE BASICS OF CQC

>>161619258
Darn. I like Maximo. The only game I know of that uses dutch angles.

>>161619141
beans in the microwave and an unusual storyline?
what am i making a goat simulator clone?
:^)

>>161619372
It'll have to do. Needs more symbolism, though.

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>>161619409
Wait a minute, that face...

>>161619460
It's pretty much the exact same thing! So ZANY

>>161619570
Burn [a picture of] your girlfriend, anon!

>>161619689
That's SO QWOP xD

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Sorry for the late replies. Didn't have any time for gamedev stuff tonight and was busy all day, so have this webm from when I was testing both particles and a floating origin's effect on them. It doesn't seem to mess them up, even though I recall it used to do so, and is one of the reasons I didn't use it last time.

>>161570318
>How many objects is there in your space environment ?
I'm spawning 2000 of those cubes. Somewhere around 10k seems to be the critical mass where the game goes to shit. I might test to see what happens if you disable the Rigidbodies of stuff that's far away to see if that makes it playable. I probably wouldn't have that many physics objects simultaneously either way, but it's good to know the limits.

>>161539645
>btw, anon, what is your control scheme for keyboards?
For now, it controls very crudely. W/D for pitch, A/D for roll, Q/E for yaw, R/T for throttle. If (when?) I do AI, I want to try and do a War Thunder-esque mouse-flight control scheme because that whole control scheme is killer for flight games. If not, I guess I could always revert to doing an old fashioned Freelancer style virtual joystick. Keyboard controls are kinda low priority though now that I've got the controller stuff hooked up.

Unity input is garbage though, and it's probably my least favorite part of the engine. Creating bindable and customizable controls require you to write a lot of your own code and I really hate that.

Dear christ what is wrong with you people.

>>161618767
BIOWARE YOU FUCKING HACKS
YOU FUCKING BLEW IT AGAIN
not that I doubted they would, but I hoped they wouldn't
how foolish

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>>161616298
This one
And the individual "nominate for" buttons that were integrated into the client itself

>>161619827
>Welcome to 4chan, the worst place on the internet!
ROFLMAO MAH WEWLADDIE FRIEND!

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>>161619827
Too many clones and not enough time

>>161619917
>>161620070
I thought anon's idea sounded fine if kind of pretentious.

>>161618767
>her fucking shoulder
Damn and I thought my rigs were shit.

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>start new game
>most of the work so far is tedious data encapsulation, naming things, making class interfaces, filling in fields and properties, creating instance methods etc.

software design is so boring

Anyone have a primer on saving and loading data from files? Is there like a standard format for writing and parsing files? My university CS program for some reason dodges teaching practical software engineering skills until you finish the highest tier of prereqs

>>161617561
I like your game

>>161620592
generally you'd prefer saving data in custom binary format. Google that, it should get you going.

>>161620259
Nevermind me I'm actually mocking the idea that it's a clone or similar to other "zany" "youtube bait" games.

>cooking crazy things in the microwave? what is this SHOPPING CART SIMULATOR? xD

>>161620867
>aggressively shitposting to counter shitposting
wow smart

I don't like your game idea. I'd appreciate it if you would stop working on it. Thanks!

>>161620987
was meant for
>>161619764

>>161620949
Actually I'm ironically shitposting to counter a genuine and objectively wrong opinion. That's what mocking is.

>>161609740
were you the same anon who wanted to know how to move an object in constant time while the destination is also moving?

>>161621112
>and objectively wrong opinion
wow smart

>>161619764
>Unity input
Rewired is worth the price.

>>161621197
>he thinks im smart
Objectively correct opinion

>>161619409
whoa, anon, for a moment I thought that a spooky ghost was moving my mouse there

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>>161600147
It's like Eye of the Beholder (or Legend of Grimrock if you're 2young) crossed with LISA

Pic unrelated.

>>161619764
>keyboard controls are low priority
aww, man, I only have a keyboard
anyways keep up the good work, its about time someone attempted to step out of the Starshatter shadow

>>161614265
>all that blood
brütal

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>>161619827
>>161620070
Tell me how do I avenge myself senpais.

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>>161600147
gameplay is like King of the Dragon Pass.

setting is like James Cameron Avatar: The Game, with the difference being that humans are entirely on their own with absolutely no backup arriving any time soon

>>161622127
whät did yõ süy äbõüt me

>>161617798
I SEE IT

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>>161600147
2D phaze fighting from Pokken with Skullgirls characters and sex scenes like Erotas.

>>161617450
I would actually appreciate it, just make sure that you keep your code general, good GOAP with a base action class that relies on NOTHING from you game.

The specific action classes yeah, but no the base class. Too many people miss this

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What kinds of magics am I missing? I'm not doing summons.

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>writing a shota porn game
>tfw SWAT comes to ask you questions about it and seizes your laptop
Which one of you did this?

>>161623782
Transfiguration? Turning something that exists into something else, or you could call it alteration.

You already have turning mana into something else with power

Turning lead to gold, an iron shield to Adamantium, turning earth to lava, etc.

Also I would consider re adjusting your schools, it's probably just me but "debilitation" and translocation seem odd. How would the same system that moves something teleport something?

How would the same system that slows something create organic poison?

>>161624080
Well it was less about the physics of magic and more about what the effects of the spell are.

>>161623798
This happened to my dad once. Me mom and Sister were Christmas shopping and we come home to see swat team outside door talking with dad. Mom and Sister thought it was about drugs (which my dad has never done) I knew better. Mom just typically started whining and annoying the SWAT, Me and Sister snuck into the house to play games. After everything cleared up I Overheard a conversation with my mom and dad, Dad was drawing Shota and posting it online on normie sites like fb to troll people.

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>>161623576
Pic related is the "goap" folder in res://
At the top of each class is code marked to be copied to specific actions, goals, and agents, because I built this with the intention of using it in other projects. The only dependency this system has is a datastructure script (containing the priority queue) that comes with the example project and which will be included in the bare goap download.

I'm assuming 30-40% of lines to be comments in the base classes which explain the system step-by-step. Of course as the coder I have a hard time not understanding what I meant when writing a comment, so I'm expecting there to be questions.

>>161624226
Cool I'm looking forward to you posting it

>>161624189
What part of the bible says that?

>>161624189
Ah ok.

You could have animation? I know you said no summons, but for example animating a golem, a snake made earth, or a sword that duels by itsefl

>>161623782
Primalism - player character is taken over by AI for the duration and during that duration, AI will go berserk on anyone he sees by doing random magics(of any strength) for zero cost. After duration ends, player regains control and everything returns to normal.

You know, that same magic that was in the Kingkiller Chronicles. Or if you don't know that book, it is like the "frenzy" state in Vampires The Masquerade

>>161624459
I know just the thing
https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2016/06/06/manoman/

>>161600147
Like Legend of Zelda without the action and story.

>>161605235

I'm not aware of any major games structured like this, but people are researching and trying out such a structure for years now. Here's a relatively recent overview:

https://emshort.blog/2016/04/12/beyond-branching-quality-based-and-salience-based-narrative-structures/

I'm thinking about ways to prevent people from cheat engine-ing their local client to prevent cheating in peer to peer multiplayer
>http://pastebin.com/ncJ15xur
I saw a pretty robust package for Unity that does it, and I'm wondering if I can recreate some of the main parts of it related to specific types
I'll probably just end up buying it though

Anyone got link to the previous thread?

>>161625581
My computer is slowing down just from me reading this pastebin code.

>>161625581
I've actually played a game with that extension, I guarantee you it's impossible to stop cheat engine in peer to peer multiplayer.

I've never had a single game ever manage to stop me. Dominions 4 (even with the disable cheats option), Civ, Europa, anything has always just been < 10 mins to figure out.

Basically saying it's not worth your time, they can do it unless you either use a server (and even then it's still possible)

>>161625665
You wouldn't use something like that in a lot of places, or anywhere you need frequent updates to hundreds of times per millisecond.

>>161623782
there are also way of casting. here are what I can come up with a short notice

>channeling
creating a link between the caster and target and maintaining that, which lets the caster do stuff to the target like just speaking from long distance. Or caster would make a link between two logs and then hiding away with one log and hiding another in someones house. Then setting the owned log on fire to cause the other to be lit up aswell

>manaing
using internal magic power(mana) to do a spell

>saying
using a string of words to invoke a spell (doesn't require mana). One can cast such a spell as long as one knows the words.

>ritual
using a ritual to invoke a spell (doesn't require mana). basically "saying" could go under this aswell. one has to perform a specific ritual to cast a spell.

>>161625790
What game did you play,
And what extension was it?

genuinely curious since the game I'm making in peer to peer cooperative, so while cheating isn't the worst thing, it is still kinda annoying.
I'd like to prevent basic scriptkiddies if I can, and let obscurity/lack of popularity of the game handle the rest

>>161625629
>>161523650

Reminder that any countermeasure you take against pirates/hackers will harm the ordinary player and will be beaten anyways unless it's keeping the sensitive data outside the hands of any client.

>>161625929
It was on greenlight, I'll try to find it and let you know, but it was a multiplayer top down shooter.

Dominions 4 is a game that puts ALOT of work into stopping cheating. It has verifying like you have as well as having random numbers generated that act as multipliers for your real gold.

For example, a RNG number is generated that is, less say, 57.3, so if you have 5730 gold your hidden number (actual amount of gold you have) is 100

It's and it does this THREE TIMES. Meaning to get the 57.3 you have to find even more values.

Its honestly just not worth it. IF someone doesn't like playing with a hacker, especially if they're cooperative, they can just leave.

The thing is for ever 2 hours designing a system to stop cheating, cheaters spend 30 seconds breaking it.

>>161626089
pirating and hacking are two completely different things,
and my goal is to prevent low barrier of entry hacking into a peer to peer game

It's one of the things that ruined Vermintide for me was when my group of buddies decided to farm gear by flying and speedhacking. Obviously it was our own faults, but it was still so easy to do.
I wanna prevent people from hurting themselves.
that said, Vermintide kinda sucked anyway. Combat was very dull

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>Play completely through Mass Effect 1 for the first time.
>Pick "Sentinel" Class, Specialize into being a "Medic" for my master class.
>Very fun playstyle that is completely different than what my friends experience playing the game was
>He was a soldier and run and gunned everything, has supporting allies.
>I had combat focused allies, I'd direct them directly into the enemy while I stayed back and used healing / stand united to repeatedly resurrect them during combat. I'd essentually outlast everything and play a commander type role.
>Start Mass Effect 2
>Sentinel is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
>I have power armor or some shit as my special ability.
>Absolutely no healing or squad support/defense abilities.
>Everything has been replaced with damage abilities and my power armor.
>Skill trees massively gutted.

I'm playing through my backlog while taking notes. What I gathered from this is fuck "elegant", "streamlined", and "simple" design. Fucking retards making shit games where players can't fucking enjoy themselves because the devs have some retarded autistic need to make every class the same in a fucking single player RPG. Literally why? Why straight up remove content from a game? Its fucking stupid.

>>161626295
I know, but the same principle applies. Either you go all the way by having an authoritative server (for anti-piracy that means streaming) or you don't bother.

>>161626278
>Its honestly just not worth it. IF someone doesn't like playing with a hacker, especially if they're cooperative, they can just leave.
>The thing is for ever 2 hours designing a system to stop cheating, cheaters spend 30 seconds breaking it.
I just don't agree with this. The assumption about time is a big one, and a properly designed system should work with code that same way normal variables do.

Even that gold example while a bit funky can be replicated pretty easily and worked with like a normal integer of 100.

And for cooperative, you ruin it for other people.
That said, the goal is script kiddies. The lowest barrier of entry. By blocking that, 99% of people will give up on it.

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Working on a new enemy, thanks to those based Saint11 tutorials

>>161625931
Thanks!

>>161626551
That fire looks pretty nice, but the glass around it is just dull.

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>>161625581
can't you do it so that computers don't process the player's own stuff at all. every other peer processes player's stuff. And player's computer can ONLY process other people states. And after processing - peers compare results and if they agree, the result is returned to player.

In that system, player can only send to others information about what buttons he pressed.

like for example a shooter game. player computer only sends to others which buttons are being pressed. peers take that information and figure out the next state of the player and then compare the result with each other. if every peer agrees, the result is sent to the player computer.

It seems to me that in this system one can only cheat by processing other peer information so that it is useful for you, since you have no say in your own character processing. And if someone is using a cheat engine, then their results are gonna be different from the rest and thus you will know that someone is cheating.

For any cheat engine to work, everyone needs to have the same cheat engine running and at that point they have practically just changed the rules and everyone is still on equal footing.

Although all this could be just a bunch of bullshit, since I only know how to program 2D menus in pygame.

>>161626513
The thing is if professionals can't do it, you can't. You can say that theoretically properly designed blah blah blah, but in practice it's worthless and a simple google search is going to breka all your effort

And what do you mean script kiddies? Generally that refers to people using auto-input scripts, like recoil reduction by putting in artificial mouse inputs.

How can one do things like these?

>>161567583
>>161596812

Any specific tutorial worth following?

>>161626649
Yeah, I mainly just put this together to try out the fire, I'll have to do some major practice with glass lighting. But I wanted to get feedback like that before I moved on, so thanks!

>>161626708
You could do something like that, but that sounds honestly extremely complex and would require a complete change of design mindset when it comes to network programming.

The real key points to cheating with Cheat Engine are preventing people from quickly identifying values and modifying them. For instance, store a string as a char[] instead or a SecureString (which is basically a char[] inside it)

The goal isn't complete cheat prevention. You can't have that because you could intercept packets if you wanted to.
The goal is the 99% who want a 'quick fix'. Make it hard for them. If the game got popular, then that quick fix might be broken by people dedicated, but then you're swimming in money and who cares?

>>161626817
its just 3d modelling, download Blender and search youtube for some tutorials

that exact style would be considered "low poly" and maybe "weeb as fuck"

>>161626758
>And what do you mean script kiddies? Generally that refers to people using auto-input scripts, like recoil reduction by putting in artificial mouse inputs.
I don't know why you're trying to spin words or definitions, this isn't some political debate.
With cheat engine you can create files that will automatically detect values for you and let you edit them in a neat way
I used one for Vermintide that would identify you speed/health/ammo/tomes collected/dice collected/etc

>>161626862
when searching strings cheat engine does a lot of things already like converting char[] to strings

Plus theres a handy feature of checking modifiable factors. If you have a value of 100 you can see what addresses are modifying it. Dude you should really give it up

>>161626862
>For instance, store a string as a char[] instead
And what do you think a string normally is?

>>161626473
Why. what if you don't really have a problem with pirates?

I used to pirate stuff a lot. As soon as I got some sort of income I bought games from then on and bought games I had previously pirated as well.

>Mount and Blade
>Dragon Age
>Skyrim
>Bioshock Trilogy
>Shadowrun
>Civilization IV and V
>Sins of a Solar Empire
>Skyrim, Bethesda, Morrowind etc

I've literally bought every single one and far more other games. Every single person I know that used to pirate when they didn't have money has turned out the same. Piracy isn't a problem in the gaming industry, I don't care what companies like EA or indie devs making shit games say.

If pirates steal your game and don't buy it its because your game or your company is shit and you don't deserve money. There are plenty of companies literally supported by their fans, enjoying massive success, because the company actually cares and isn't shitting all over everything and everyone.

I will admit that some of those were purchased during sales and if I had blindly purchased them on release the company would have made more money. But I have since bought new games on release that I wouldn't have before such as Fallout IV and Borderlands the Pre-Sequel (I regret the latter even though I did play it with four friends). But the people that are risking pirating in order to save money on not buying shit games aren't the same demographic that will just buy shit on day one because they NEED to play a game.

>>161619096
Me too xD

>>161627112
shan't be reading this

How well received would a game in the same tone and genre as the Gabriel Knight series be nowadays? Sins of the Fathers and Beast Within specifically (I never played GK3 Blood of the Sacred, Blood of the Damned).

>>161627312
One of my friends likes games like that
You might need better graphics than they had since they released in 1993, but there is a following for that type of game.
Shift the theme slightly and art style and it could hit a whole different group of people as well.

or as /agdg/ would say, given up nodev

>>161627312
my mom would play it, no joke

she loved all the old point and click games, and buys lots of indie ones off steam all the time

>>161627112
you're retarded but there's plenty of /v/ threads for this discussion

>>161627602
why is he retarded? because he is correct?

>>161627718
>Every single person I know that used to pirate when they didn't have money has turned out the same.

>>161627770
and what is wrong about that?

>>161627112
>If pirates steal your game and don't buy it its because your game or your company is shit and you don't deserve money.
Actually, pirates don't steal at all. They infringe copyright. As a developer, piracy shouldn't even be on your radar. Either a pirate is going to pay for the game eventually or would never buy it at all.

>>161627980
>Actually, pirates don't steal at all

By the definition of the law, they are stealing even if you say "only making a copy XD" its still stealing by law, which is all that amtters

>>161628104
> its still stealing by law
what fucking law

>>161628178
American laws and you can find it if you really care

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>>161605235
in my upcoming detective project (got most of the central logic finished, will be returning to it to make a prototype sometime early next year) the ingame scripting of the story is 100% through evidence/player actions (i might expand some evidence/actions into cutscenes in the finished project but it's not needed)
there is some things that will be happening in the "present" as the player is conducting the investigation but the majority of the plot is before the player/detective entered, so i have a story of the crime that took place and instead of writing it in some natural sequential bookish way it gets conveyed through the evidence.
and with the ways i have set up to produce evidence theres an infinite supply of "space" for me to use and the player to explore (before i get bullied again for "infinite evidence" it's infinite like in the ways a space is infinte, mostly empty dotted with meaning if you use scientific thinking to figure out where to look)

>>161628229
I have smarter things to do than to prove your assertments to myself.

>>161628285
The idea that taking things you didn't pay for because it's digital is more of an assertation than the idea that's illegal.

I never understood this underage /v/ meme, but regardless enjoy

>>161627770
I can't say I'm friends with shitters that would pirate just to pirate. Most did because they simply didn't have the money. Games aren't that expensive and once you start bringing in a paycheck its reasonable to just buy stuff especially with platforms like steam.

I can say that people I know, including myself, still pirate anime. That's because there is no reasonable alternative. People will mention crunchyroll but that doesn't solve several issues.

>Shit quality compared to BD rips
>Can't use your own media player
>Don't physically have the files
>Can't select your own sub group
>Don't have the files in a proper format (or have them at all)
>Buying anime is incredibly expensive and it rarely gets published for US audiences.

Most I know do however buy anime merch for shows they like sometimes spending hundreds or more on a single statue (I'm thinking the Huge Guts and Saber). I just buy mugs.

I'd rather not watch anime anymore, even though I love anime, than stream via crunchyroll or buy blurays at the current costs.

>>161628238
Nice stuff googs, I forgot you were doing the detective game.

>>161628357
Definitely denial if an anon doesn't think its stealing. But if you're willing to steal over giving money to business practices you dislike I'd still argue its more capitalistic/pro free market than simply giving in to the shit practices.

People need to make sure companies that are doing shit they don't like lose business rather than just complaining about it.

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>>161628378
its ok, i forget some of the things im doing sometimes

I'm actually curious about how hard /agdg/ can cheat engine
Some time tomorrow I'll post a Unity game using some simple scripts to obscure values like strings, ints, and floats
I'll include all the code that's being used as well for reference
Then people can try their hand at modifying the values with Cheat Engine.

Obvious you could decompile/recompile the dlls, but it'll be interesting to see how well people do. I ran some basic tests and couldn't find the pointers quickly, so we'll see how others do

>>161628849
You gotta offer a prize, like hacking X value/string will give you a picture of a juicy dragon dong or something.

BAM you have a game, if a bit meta

>>161629404
If someone does it using cheat engine and shows proof, I'll admit that I'm retarded and that the shitposters are right and I should give up

>>161627312
I don't know that specific series, but my wife digs these things. Not the famous ones, but the rather obscure and not well know ones. Like she played two about Dracula, one with Frankenstein etc. So if the story is good, and the puzzles are interesting, sure, there's still audience for it, but not as big as in the '90s.

The only point 'n' click game I ever enjoyed is Machinarium, but maybe because it was rather a collection of mini puzzles rather than an adventure game.

>>161609740
I think some small trails would help a lot to visualize movement of those ships. I assume they are ships
just very tiny trails,

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Here we go, I'll post this again later when it's not 4AM

The Unity build itself is here
>https://mega.nz/#!qJpSEASa!2SW4N6zYxoaB_5ULPfRL3EcZeSdmZu5ulP9A94gp3Ew

Implementations for the Protected variables are here
>http://pastebin.com/zBf5FG54
Implementation of how the values are set/updated
>http://pastebin.com/g55q5z5v

Try to change the of the text above.
Every update, the text is updated to the stored value (which is stored in those 'protected' classes). The functions on the "Control" class are fired via Unity's UI buttons.

Post a picture of you changing the int/float values to non-100 multiples or the string to something else along with CheatEngine to show off how if you can figure out a way to break it

Where are the games? I was told there would be games here.

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>>161630648
>implying I'd install some peasant's Unity game just to use ArtMoney on it
>implying just calling a variable "protected" in its name actually protects it

>>161630651
deleted in a fit of rage

So I've been working on an RTS sort of game in Gamemaker. I'm considering switching over to Unity, would Unity be easier for me to use? I'm still new to dev.

>>161630932
Unity is the only way to make a game.

>>161630961
Is it easy to learn if I already know a bit of GML? Are they similar?

>>161630887
I want to FUCK that cat.

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What's your favorite book, /agdg/?

>>161631214
The Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

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>>161631214
Jubei No Hon

j/k

It's actually probably A Little Woman by Kafka

it's about the merciless angels that exist solely to complain about you

What do I have to reference if I want to rotate my Character? Capsule? Movement?

>>161631214
SICP my family

>>161631214
The Confession of a White Widowed Male

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>>161631214
im a book pleb though

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>>161631214

>>161630753
>implying just calling a variable "protected" in its name actually protects it
then why would they call it protected? checkmate

>>161631423
Thumbs up, good choice, sir.

>>161631214
My favorite book is in my mother tongue, and as far as I know it has not been translated yet. From foreign authors, I would probably pick Vonnegut.

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>>161631214
>>161631912
"Now this little woman is highly dissatisfied with me, she always has some fault to find with me, I am always doing her an injustice, I annoy her at every turn; if it were possible to divide up one's life into the smallest of its parts and judge each part separately, there is no doubt that she would find every smallest part of my own life offensive. I have often wondered why it is that I should offend her so; it may be that everything about me runs counter to her aesthetic feelings, her sense of justice, her habits, her traditions, her hopes - such mutually incompatible natures do exist, but why does this cause her so much pain?"

>>161631214

Just fill it up with every volume of this tbqh
>>161631662

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>>161631662
>not a "Kemono For Essential" book or even a kemoket book

kys you're self

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"Just try to explain to someone what the art of fasting is. No one who does not feel it can be made to grasp what it means. The beautiful placards became dirty and illegible, they were ripped down, no one thought of replacing them; the little board showing the tally of days fasted, which at first had been scrupulously changed each day, had now long stayed unaltered, for after the first few weeks the staff had grown weary of even this little task; and so the hunger artist did indeed go fasting on, as he had once dreamed of doing, but no one counted the days, no one, not even the hunger artist himself, knew how great his achievement was, and his hearty grew heavy. And once in a while some casual passer-by should stop, ridicule the outdated number of the board and talk about fraudulence, that in its way the stupidest lie that ever indifference and inborn malice could invent, for it was not the hunger artist who was cheating, he was working honestly, but the world was cheating him out of his reward."

...

" 'Because,' with the hunger artist, with his lips pursed as if for a kiss, right into the overseer's ear, so that not a syllable may be lost, 'Because I couldn't find the food I liked.' "

"these were his last words, but in his dimming eyes remained the firm but no longer proud persuasion that he was still continuing to fast."

Then they replaced him with a panther or something, and everyone liked it better. I think the moral of the story is that art sucks and isn't worth working towards.

>>161632413
The time you took to read, copy and post that could have been time used to work on your game.

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If there was no friction and you drop these two balls simultaneously, will they reach the ground at the same time?

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>>161632581
No diagonal is faster

Also please feedback on my spooky. Making doom style billboard anims

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>>161632523
>work on your game.

>working on something that will just invite rampant shitposting against it

>>161632581
no the one hitting a slope will be affected by friction against the slope, as well as it having to translate its forces sideways against the ramp

>>161632581

Assuming the only force acting on it is gravity, friction does not exist from the air or slope, and gravity pulls them both straight down:

First ball moves straight down at x m/s^2
Second ball moves diagonally at x m/s^2

First ball travels further towards gravity's pull in the same amount of time.

>>161632664
>If there was no friction
>no the one hitting a slope will be affected by friction
Thats a pretty astounding ability to not comprehend what you read anon.

>>161626817
Look for Sebastian Lague on youtube.

>>161632750
Both vectors have the same magnitude, one is just rotated. Same distance is traveled, but one ball ends at a lower height with the same time traveled.

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Reposting for feedback.
I'm probably going to redo it from scratch though because I don't feel good tracing other people's models

>>161632862
THICC

Seriously though work on your topography.

As for tracing other models, don't be. Everyone does it to some extent, whether it's borrowing parts, buying assets, or copying styles. Just make sure it's an improvement.

>>161632664
>>161632718
Oh no. It's a shitpost. Abandon thread.

>>161632862
>I don't feel good tracing other people's models
I had more progress the time I've decided to properly use references or tracing for modeling.
You can try to act like a big shot and do everything on your own but I wouldn't recommend it.

Also there is no feedback to give here, the topology looks fine for a low poly thing.

>>161600147

Doom +magic sword + ghosts n goblins

So I'm just following a tutorial for Unity right now and I think I prefer C# to GML so far. Though I haven't really done much in either.

>>161633134
>the topology looks fine for a low poly thing.
That's a stretch. Areas near the wrist and joints need a lot more polys.

>>161633186
>unity tutorial
>C#
Even as an Unity user I'd recommend you to follow real C# tutorials over the Unity ones if you really want to have a good grasp of what the language can actually do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzmLSEVjZc

Would anyone care to give me some critique on this trailer? I don't intend to use it on greenlight or anything hence the music that isn't mine, its more of a elevator pitch.

>>161633285
>Areas near the wrist and joints need a lot more polys.
No they don't, we're talking about low-poly here.

Two rings are more than enough for deformation, you just weight them for penetration rather than volume conservation.

>>161633321
I've done a tiny little bit of C# before, I'm mainly doing this tutorial so I can understand it a little better and try to port over what I've done on GMS.