Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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first for best team

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Will 6.89 save DotA?

>>161549376
no because you subhumans will be bitching about it just as hard
protip: 6.88 is the best patch we've ever had

sumail is pretty based desu

>>161549196
this nigger is so fucking ugly

>>161545440
im a high-6/low-7k USE huskar player and id say that a sidelane 1v1 jugg vs huskar favors jugg pretty hard
just run at him without drawing aggro and if he hits u hit him back, he cant trade with you at all before lv4 even with creeps because of pms and he cant really run because youll just zone him out of creeps and get boots befoer him and win the lane
lv1 passive gives up to 10% mres

>>161549719
dotards..?

>>161549458
Death ball though.

>>161549560
i just want to add that solo husk beats a lot of 1v1 matchups but jugg really isnt one of them
husks physical base dmg is mediocre and the atk spd isnt going to outpace his lack of ehp, and he cant even really trade because juggs just going to spin once u commit and without the spears dot husks dps is awful
on top of all that husk cant go late or even mid against jugg without a farm advantage or an oracle/dazzle/omni/etc..

>>161549836
kill yourself

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DELETE
SLARK

RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>two threads, both dead
Epic.

cant wait for next patch where there will at most be ONE slight nerf to slark, and it will probably be an indirect nerf through echo sabre, but he will also be indirectly buffed through his competitors being nerfed through dragonlance/pike nerf
yihaaa
disruptor still exists tho

>>161549270
remove crit

>>161550935
>>161551297
Slark is never going to be nerfed, if there isn't a piss easy pubstomper for Peru to play there's less chance third worlders will queue, trigger whitey and force them to keep playing. Same with Invoker, can't nerf him otherwise you wouldn't have muh ebin skill ceiling.

>>161549847
Husk dos have the advantage of being able to gank your team to pieces if you look away even for a second though, doesn't matter if you can 1v1 him with Jugg, Huskar WILL successfully gank unless people have map awareness, with Jugg its not that easy.

>>161551927
jesus christ what the fuck is wrong with you slark and invoker wont get nerfed because they dont need nerfs and huskar well i dont know what to tell you you've already gotten so many good tips on how to deal with huskar but yeah go lose some pub games anon no one wants you in here anymore

>>161551927
>Huskar WILL successfully gank unless people have map awareness, with Jugg its not that easy.

>guys my bracket is so SHIT so SHIT reee
>b-but its REALLY hard to kill people out of position as juggernaut in the early game
you really can't make this shit up

how come Mushi is the bad guy if the pinoys never bothered to try and talk to him?
le super star teams were a mistake

>>161552037
>slark and invoker wont get nerfed because they dont need nerfs

Nice wrong opinion retard go eat some mud like the third world animal you are I'll be here with a glass of milk AND clean water knowing you'll never have both

>>161552091
You need some kind of setup with Jugg for a kill unless you're running at a no boots CM or want to blow Omni, and throwing a stun for a free kill is something Peruvians for sure haven't mastered so yeah it's a lot easier with a free 50% slow and massive DoT

Does december 12 mean main client update or test client update + like a week of testing because valve doesnt test a single fucking thing?

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>player has "boss" in player name
>is russian

Every single time

>>161551643
artour too

>>161552376
Unless there's a problem and the Monkey King arcana can't be bought from the store there won't be a delay, content updates are just ways to sell Arcanas at this point bundled with a bit of content update.

>>161552430
>Get a SEA player
>He talks like Pink guy
>eh bawwws mid lane is missing

SEA really like to use boss but I never see it on Russian names

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zup Puppey, enjoying irrelevancy?

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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.

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>>161552604
>Some random Punjab (Yawar?) has to dye his hair fluorescent pink to get attention
>Puppey meanwhile setting up the board to sweep all Majors into TI7 into a successful Presidential campaign

Reminder EE wrote a 47 page blog whining about Puppey and Puppey hasn't even responded or acknowledged it. That's how true leaders carry themselves.

>>161552932
Batrider is the most horrible title I think. I mean the thing he rides looks like a giant tub of ketchub and not like a bat.

>>161553034
does that mean puppey is a corrupt politician

>>161553034
that's 1437 Puppan's vice president

>>161553108
Puppey has what's best for Estonia in mind, even if that isn't necessarily what's best for honeypot nations. He's a charasmatic 7 foot millionaire with connections with the Turkish mafia, there's o way he's not gonna be President at this point.

>>161553275
It's either Bulba or Yawar I'm sure of it

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>>161553323
how can someone like you be that stupid?

>>161553507
How can you be so racist? Just because Ritsu and Bulba are both pooinloos doesn't mean they're identical, why post his picture anyways they hardly even look alike?

>>161552932
>>161553092
its DOOM

>>161553507
where da computer @?

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>>161551927
>>161550935
Slark has been nerfed enough, I don't understand how people are still having problems with him, legit.

I mean fuck Pounce used to do 280 damage and now it's down to 160.

When will you faggots stop crying and learn how to beat him, namely exploit his weak laning presence and shitty stats.

Bloodseeker is even viable right now, just rupture him every fight so he can't do shit on top of Thirst fucking his regen.

>>161553672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRWy6iH6PYo

?

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How do I gain popularity in the /vg/ in game chat??

Nobody respects my opinion and calls me a noname.

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>>161553590
>Implying
If I held the title of "The Doombringer" I'd make everyone including my mom call me that. Shit's metal as fuck.
Unless you mean horrible as in scary. Then yes.

>>161553728
>highly skilled player dominates a pub
>just grabbing a random video where someone does really well on a hero
>HA-HA GOT YOU NOW ANON!

He has a 49.65% winrate in 5k+ and it's not like he 'dominated' the Summit 6 either.

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When is valve going to make a fun/goofy hero?

im getting tired of muh monsters and edgy warriors

>>161553672
Because his design is PUBSTOMPER. Like how Tides' is INITIATION? Everything about the hero is designed to allow shitters to excel on the faults of others.

>Oh you shut me down in lane? If only I had low CD AOE jungle farming ability and a way to regen to full between camps
>Oh you stacked your disabled perfectly? Sorry needed another one because I have 3 (THREE!) escapes
>Oh look 3/5 the enemy team are retarded Peruvians that keep going into jungle without wards despite being picked off by Slark every time they do it

I know how to counter Slark; you throw your stuns and silences AFTER Dark Pact finishes or initiate at the same tiem with dust and silence. Sadly 85% of people can't fucking understand this and just lead with a stun, it gets pacted and Slark turns around with his pounce and HoT regen and murders them. He's not a problem in pro gaming because he's not good in pro games, he's an absolute holocaust in pubs though, where 99% of the game plays.

Someone complained no Bard hero
So Bard hero

Telviwayne the Bard
17 Str + 2.4 - 19 Agi +2.7 - 17 Int + 2.0
Melee Agility Support

Q - Inspiring Riff
Plays an encouraging song on his lute, disarming himself for 3 seconds but buffing all allies within 900 range for 6 seconds (including self)
Grants
8/10/12/14% movespeed
20/30/40/50 attack speed
5/10/15/20 hp regen

120 mana 18/16/14/12 second cooldown

W - Somber Tune
Target an enemy. Plays a sad song on a flute which purges an enemy of all positive buffs and applies a debuff. Self disarm 2 seconds, debuffs 3 seconds.
10/14/18/22% slow
Reduces all damage from target by 10/14/18/22%

120 mana 14/13/12/11 second cooldown

E - Dance of the Wind
Target ally. Plays a light tune on a violin to empower a target ally. Self disarms up to 6 seconds. Empowers ally up to 6 seconds.
+15/20/25/30% evasion
+3/6/9/12 armor

120 mana 20/17/14/11 second cooldown

R - Ballad of the Heroes
The Bard magically orchestrates all his instruments at once, creating a powerful song that grants empowers nearby allies. Self disarms up to 6/7/8 seconds and buffs for same amount. 900aoe.
+25/50/75 damage
30/45/60 movespeed

200/300/400 mana 60 second cooldown

Aghanim Scepter Upgrade
Ballad of the Heroes now applies the buffs and debuffs of the Bard's other spells at half strength in addition to its standard effects. Does not mass purge enemies.

>>161553754
tfw u want to shitpost in the /vg/ chat but don't want to show your main account because you don't trust dotards.
just say you're a girl

>>161553817
yeah that's the thing but his current incarnation is he isn't a DOOM bringer he's a PLS BUFF ME SO I CAN BE PICKED OR BANNED hero

>>161553931
Techies?

>be straight desperate little virgin
>gay friend keeps insisting me to let him suck my dick

What do dotards

>>161553931
when's Valve going to release more cute girl heroes..

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THIS IS YOUR ANIME HERO?

>>161553672
>shit stats
wht if he goes into invisible cloud mode for 5 seconds and takes half your stats for himself
He is a cancer to pubs

>>161553884
>He has a 49.65% winrate in 5k+
And a huge pick rate lets just ignore that, right?

>>161553971
So what's the point of your post?

Slark is not gonna get nerfed because people are too shit to beat him in pubs.

He doesn't even have a significant winrate across all brackets in pubs, his highest is in the <2k bracket at a 52.44% winrate, that's not even in the top 30 winrates of that bracket.

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>>161553974
>Bard hero
>Arcana is an '80s hair metal outfit
>Guitar replaces lute

>>161554143
>Slark is not gonna get nerfed

Yes he will retard, never post again because you clearly don't know a thing

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is it really possible for a dog to vomit this much?

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>wake up
>no patch

>>161553974
>io tether
>halberd + dmg reduction
>solar crest
his ult and the self disarming seem interesting

>>161554143
It's his pickrate that's the issue. He's such an easy hero. Free sustain, mobility and dewarding.
I'd very much support buffing him if it meant tossing out some of his free shit.

But I've no idea how to do so while still making him Slark.

He's frustrating to deal with, win or lose, because in a game where mobility and positioning are important and must always be considered, Slark says fuck you I have three escapes that are also nuke/disable/regen abilities.

sweet fucking jesus /d2g/
I got done carrying a game like a god damned boss by permasheeping as tinker
and I set about make a meal of spicy saltados
and an hour later here I was after a great meal and fondling my balls when I remembered I hadn't washed my hands and have hunan hands
and now my balls are on fire

>>161554205
fuck yourself you fucking little 2k mmr nigger

>>161554287
Io tether for the whole team
And halberd doesn't slow at range and reduce outgoing magic or pure damage.
And wind is supposed to have the flat +move speed bonus while Heroes gets the armor aura but I messed up.

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http://www.craveonline.com/entertainment/1165925-overwatch-lgbt-characters-blizzard-will-reveal-soon

>We definitely haven’t forgotten about what we said. Like we said, it’s very important for us to have diversity and inclusiveness of all types, and that includes LGBT characters. There are definitely LGBT heroes [in Overwatch] — that’s multiple heroes.


How can DOTA even compete?

>>161554378
i'd like for these things to be added to the heroes/items than be put in a new hero
like io aghs to tether your team
also his ult could be put on centaur to replace stampede but the + dmg be replaced by % of centaurs str

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>>161549560
also to put some numbers to it

level 1 huskar before items has 46.5 damage and burning spears does +30 to enemy, -15 to self
level 1 jugg with pms takes 20 instant + 30 over time per huskar right click after reductions, jugg meanwhile has 56 base damage and higher movespeed

if huskar tries to stand his ground and manfight, jugg will win handily thanks to PMS tipping it way in his favor
if huskar tries to turn and kite, he's going to take like 1.5-2 hits for every hit he lands on jugg and lose the trades
and when fighting to the death, jugg can let huskar stack up like 6+ instances of burning spears to the point it would be fatal, then just pop blade fury to negate it and finish off huskar


huskar basically stopped being a hero when his magic resist was removed and now he actually dies to shit like blade fury

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>>161554128
>wht if he goes into invisible cloud mode for 5 seconds and takes half your stats for himself

AOE / Targetted stuns, he takes 1 of each stat from you, but gets it back as 3 AGI so this doesn't really help his HP problem unless he's primarily up against physical DPS, he needs items for that.

Don't fucking blow all your disables on him while he's channelling pact like most retards do.

>>161554139
>And a huge pick rate lets just ignore that, right?

So what? You have more shitters playing him, but that doesn't make him OP.

I mean the highest pickrate hero is Pudge and he is doing better winrates than Slark across the board with a much higher skill cap.

>>161554205
No he won't, I'm gonna screen cap your post and post it after 6.89 / 7.00 comes out and I hope you're here so you feel bad about being wrong.

There's no evidence to suggest that Slark is overpowered other than literally 3k pub retards crying about him.

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>>161554441
A full half of the female heroes in Dota are thick dicked breeding machines, Tresdin for example would fuck Sven as much as she'd fuck CM, that's true inclusiveness

>>161554535
Io doesn't need an Aghs
Centaur Aghs is fine and doesn't need to be changed

Also letting Io x2.6 heal an entire team is absolutely broken. If Io gets an Aghs it should grant him a fourth ability or affect Overcharge.

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>>161553672
>When will you faggots stop crying and learn how to beat him, namely exploit his weak laning presence and shitty stats.
>Bloodseeker

how about you start by learning what his weakness is and how to beat him, because its not bloodseeker you retard
every slark knows how pitiful bloodseeker is against him

>oh dear I've been ruptured better press R and tp away
>can sneak up on BS invisible and kill him from full hp any time since he is just food
>thirst does nothing to stop slark from regenning up due to ult or shadow blade
>slark will never stay at low hp to let BS chase him down
>BS has an incredibly hard time ever trying to click rupture on a hero who always knows when he's seen, can sneak around invisible immune to dust and press R to become untargetable


if you want to learn how to beat slark, pick the right hero you moron

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hey guys can i ask you somthing.

how the hell do i deal with PA that keep spamming her dagger at me bullying me out of line , i know a magic wand is good in this case but sometime it isn't enough ,that fucking dagger need a nerf desu

>>161554441
Tresdina leads a fucking army against demons how's that blizzshill

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>teammate types "LUL" several times
>notagain.jpg
>proceeds to feed and use these fucking twitch memes
>report him
>report feedback immediately after
>mfw

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hey guys can i ask you something.

how the hell do i deal with PA that keep spamming her dagger at me bullying me out of line , i know a magic wand is good in this case but sometime it isn't enough

ffs nerf that dagger

>>161554706
>if you want to learn how to beat slark, pick the right hero you moron

thank you for listing said hero, retard

>>161554771
nice cutoff exclamation mark, retard

>>161554631
i meant the normal stampede be replaced with the bards ult but instead of flat +XX dmg it is a +% of centaurs str, will let it be more than lmao run in/lmao run away ult
io aghs tethers will not be affected by overcharge, that would be too much, it will just let you tether extra allies, it is still a luxury item for io because the hero doesnt have any great farming steroids and is usually put way down on the farming priority
io also needs to get items to help it survive because its always the focus of the enemy team

>>161554441
>Implying Tresdin isn't a dyke
>Implying Lone Druid and Lycan aren't furries
>Implying Broodmother isn't a strong independent woman who don't need no man
>Implying Medusa isn't a trans woman
>Implying Arc Warden and Enigma can't reproduce asexually
>Implying Windranger isn't hiding a 9 incher in her pants
Topkek

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how's your day fellow gulagites?
I just had pizza and milk for breakfast and now I'm gonna watch true sight

>>161554862
Again, Cebtaur ult is fine and fits the hero both logically and ability wise. +damage doesn't help Centaur at all defensively or honestly offensively. Turning Centaur ult into Sven Aghs is dumb.

And I wasn't saying Overcharging a team is dumb, I'm saying Io tethering to 4 teammates and popping a heal is dumb. And overpowered.

If Io gets an Aghs it should give him a new ability. Maybe one that makes him briefly invulnerable (but still able to be disabled)

>>161554848
its in the webm you doublenigger

>>161554706
The problem about slark, like with other pubstompers, is that he's countered by supports, not carries, and plebs never support

BS does well against slark like first 15minutes

>>161554706
>oh dear I've been ruptured better press R and tp away

Well good, that'll make winning the teamfight easier.

>can sneak up on BS invisible and kill him from full hp any time since he is just food

Depending on how you build Bloodseeker, which seems to be in a utility 3 role right now he is plenty durable and has means of escape. Even a Eul's sceptre lasts the duration of the leash.

>thirst does nothing to stop slark from regenning up due to ult or shadow blade

He gets revealed at <25% HP, thus stopping his regen whether he's shadow bladed or not. This makes it difficult for Slark to re-engage if he pops out of a fight at low HP, hoping to regen when fogged.

Over the course of his ult Slark regens 12% / 20% / 28% of his HP back, pending he's not taking damage from anything while in his ult (I wonder if BS has an ability that can do this)?

>slark will never stay at low hp to let BS chase him down

You are basing this on absolutely nothing, there's a bunch of factors that can get Slark low.

If you're talking about passive farming then that just slows him down because he keeps having to make sure he doesn't drop into thirst range while hurting himself with Dark Pact.

Running out of characters, will retort next post.

Stupid dotards, why you didn't tell me there was another thread????????

>>161555180
youre like , 2k mmr arent you?

opinion discarded

>>161555172
axe isn't a support

>>161554714
>>161554821
that's too general of a question
there are ways of dealing with PA dagger but some are better than others depending on the situation
also sometimes there's nothing you can do and you're better off jungling or whatever

>>161555172
there's a reason slark is constantly picked in 5k+
even with proper supporting, with sentries and whatnot, he is a nightmare to play against

>>161555180
Slark will never get himself in thirst range farming jungle unless he was already almost dead when he started.

>>161555381
t. 3k shitter who never farms jungle till 15+ mins

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Can we get some att speed buffs on this bitch please?

Also proc % increase on E

>>161555180
>Well good, that'll make winning the teamfight easier.
so bloodseeker can't kill slark
but slark can kill bloodseeker
and slark can kill bloodseekers allies and bloodseeker can't stop him from doing it
and if slark just ults and clicks down BS's ally, and BS ults him after the fact, he can still safely tp away

>Even a Eul's sceptre lasts the duration of the leash.
won't save you from slark, who will just click you to death with force staff
won't even interrupts slarks TPs if he ults, goes invisible after purging dust or bkbs
>He gets revealed at <25% HP
>Over the course of his ult Slark regens 12% / 20% / 28% of his HP back
what a counter
you stop him from regenerating up below 25% with his passive, except he can just regenerate up with his active, or naturally regen from items/stats over the 25% mark
>You are basing this on absolutely nothing, there's a bunch of factors that can get Slark low.
slark won't stay low, because he regenerates from his ult. Slark spends 99% of the game at 100% HP because of his passive regen, so you'll never have the benefit of globally hunting him down like you would a wounded crystal maiden trying to limp her way home

>>161555036
io aghs tethering and healing will be like a more versatile version of aghs kotl healing
it really is good but its locked behind 4.2k on a hero that needs other items first just to survive and it has a hard time farming
i dont see it being that useful in fights because pros should be on the io anyway and forcing it to fuck off/break tether with multiple heroes
after fights it will be really useful but the same thing can be said for kotl aghs who farms way faster and can fight from further away

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>>161555335
every pro leet carry player knows that all other roles but him are supports

>>161555354
He has sub 50% winrate in 5k plus(or 50.6% if you look at this week only)

Slark is incredibly easy to play against if you have decent supports and don't roam off alone like a retard. He does fine till the time hits about 30minutes~ where enemy carry has farmed enough items to kill your whole team meanwhile slark has just been trying to tank up trying to eat through some 2k hp 30armor enemy core

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valvebro here
here's a tiny preview of a new item that is an upgrade to lotus orb
try to guess from else goes into its build recipe, because it does not include linkens
valvebro out

>>161555465
so you can pick BS to interrupt a slark jungling from level 1?

a) nobody jungles slark
b) once slark has level 6, he can jungle indefinitely without dropping below 25% hp, and even if he did, he just pops a tango or presses R

what happened to bounty lol

been away for a while and apparently he's a position 4/5 now?

why tho

>two days to go for fantasy team lock
>still no idea what teams are playing

cooool story volvo guess you dont want players getting more free points

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>>161555553
>every pro leet carry player knows that all other roles but him are supports

thats how you win more games
if you need to support worse players than yourself, you're going to lose

>>161555554
>One off
A real valvebro would have gotten the digits

>>161555554

>black lotus

Orchid builds into it

Gives three Black mana

>>161555568
nobody ever learned how to double hit shadow walk so they never harnessed his aggressive offlaning power, and do nothing but roam him from level 1 instead and the ganks never work because people just sentry mid, so BH goes like 0-2-1 and is level 3 at 8 minutes in and his sole contribution was delaying enemy bottle by 3 minutes

>>161555568
annoying little cunt to mids/supports/couriers
can go deep in the enemy part of the map to ward, really good at scouting
people realised he can do his job without having a lane

>>161555610
>jungle

>>161555180
>>161554706
>BS has an incredibly hard time ever trying to click rupture on a hero who always knows when he's seen, can sneak around invisible immune to dust and press R to become untargetable

All of those points are pretty poor at best.

Slark's awareness about being seen is only relevant to knowing when someone invis is in sight range of him or when he's seen by a ward, it's not something he keeps track of during a teamfight.

Slark isn't immune to dust, he uses pact while invisible it will remove the dust, but break his invis anyway.

Catching him invis with other means of detection is game dependant based on his movements.

It's also important to note that BS has a massive AOE silence which goes through Shadow Dance, so if Slark wants to cop that as opposed to breaking off his leashed target on top of using a pact to remove it he's going to do about 450 pure damage to himself (Bloodraged Bloodrite + Pact).

>>161555334
>I have no actual retorts, I'll call him bad xD

Always a pleasure arguing on 4chan.

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>>161555610
I choose support over offlane any day if enemies have invis heroes since I rather be the ward slut and have a chance at winning instead of getting dumpstered

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>>161555627
there are no dubs on /vg/
how bad @ postingundbrowsing are you to get outskilled in 4chan knowledge by a valve employee
>>161555631
no, we didn't really touch orchid because it already got an upgrade in bloodthorn
one more tip: it provides str

>>161555631
>Lycan will never cast Howl of the Night Pack

>>161555547
It just doesn't seem like a good fit for Io.
It doesn't help him not die and it doesn't help the carry he was drafted to be butt buddies with (directly at least)

If Io gets an Aghs it should buff Overcharge and/or make it less harmful for Io to use on himself. Would make carry Io viable actually. Sorta. Maybe.

I still would rather see it add a fourth ability. Maybe one that makes him and the unit he is tethered to invulnerable as a saving mechanism. Make him better at what he already does and more survivable.

Aghs should be an upgrade to what the hero already does. What Io does is help one teammate a lot, so any Aghs should make him better at that rather than just making him good at something else.

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oi cunts is there a discord or is that dead

>>161555554
one off from >>161555555 fake valvebro

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How do I get a gf that plays Dota?

>>161555836
learn to speak a shitskin language

Io will never gets aghs. He's already way too strong in the pro scene.

>>161555553
I exclusively play support at 6k MMR and I still hate playing against slark. You still need to spend a billion gold on sentries and having to right click a core severely limits a lot of what you can do. He also has the ability to punish player misplays to a greater degree than almost any other hero except perhaps storm. Slark isn't overpowered, but he is certainly not "incredibly easy to play against".

>>161555559
Standard slark farming pattern involves clearing 2-3 jungle camps every minute after you hit 6/7. You can definitely easily drop below 25% hp before level 11. While thirst doesn't stop you from jungling, it certainly slows you down.

>>161555708
>Slark's awareness about being seen is only relevant to knowing when someone invis is in sight range of him or when he's seen by a ward, it's not something he keeps track of during a teamfight.
it means you can't ever gank him

>It's also important to note that BS has a massive AOE silence which goes through Shadow Dance, so if Slark wants to cop that as opposed to breaking off his leashed target on top of using a pact to remove it he's going to do about 450 pure damage to himself (Bloodraged Bloodrite + Pact).
that must be the least threatening thing ever to a slark
a piddly amount of damage that will regenerate by the time his ult is over, a heavily telegraphed debuff that can be dispelled by dark pact and he can just walk out of it or pounce out of it at his leisure

>>161555878
So give him an aghs that's shit in most games but useful on rare occasions like LC's

>>161554297
>nerfing someone based on pickrate
i think not anon

>>161555909
>you still need to spend a billion gold on sentries

But that's the fun part, I feel like im making him my bitch when I can see him on map 24/7

>>161555909
>Standard slark farming pattern involves clearing 2-3 jungle camps every minute after you hit 6/7. You can definitely easily drop below 25% hp before level 11. While thirst doesn't stop you from jungling, it certainly slows you down.
git gud
buy an iron talon, kite the creeps

its possible to spam dark pact on creeps without breaking your ult regen at all, simply by hitting them at max range while running away and while they leash back to their camps

theres no need to facetank the whole creep while they sit immobile in their camp, when you can kill them at 90-95% efficiency while taking a fraction of the damage by partially or fully leashing them

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It's kinda weird but i want to say this guys. Everytime I pee im thinking of force staff. I dont know why but i just do. Pic Related

>>161555790

BKB + Lotus, obviously. Makes you reflect all spells and effects cast on you while BKB'd. And refreshes the duration of avatar to 10 seconds when purchased. Screen cap this.

>>161555836
You won't. Dota 2 has the absolute lowest ratio of female players out of all relatively recent and popular video games.

Either go gay or drop the standard.

>>161554297
Frustrating to deal with doesn't mean it should be nerfed, half the heroes in dota are frustrating to play against and the other half IS frustrating to play with

And then you have techies which is both

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>>161555835
is that a roundabout way of saying that we're adding a new item called "bait" which will be included in black lotus recipe?

>>161556020
Force staff is a good item.

You should feel proud.

>>161555836
im sure most relationships cant handle both people sharing a competitive hobby
the competition lets u find out pretty quick how much of their bullshit ur willing to put up with
and then its either the relationship holding ur dota back or vice-versa
i.e. - they want to queue with u but theyre fucking awful and obnoxious but they wont acknowledge it and u dont have private match history anymore so u cant really avoid them and still play

>>161554089
>EE pounces that puss hard every night
not sure how to feel about this

Blademail nerf when?

>>161555953
Side-Io

>>161556067
I feel like that would basically just be spending 4K to refresh your bkb at the cost of losing you a lotus orb.
What's the point of reflecting spells if you can only reflect a couple. That's basically just a pseudo counter to Abyssal if true.

>>161556132
she has a little boy body like most asians

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>>161556083
>Dota 2 has the absolute lowest ratio of female players out of all relatively recent and popular video games

Why?

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>>161556067
bravo anon

>>161556209
because its a game that doesnt pander and is punishing

>>161555506
>and slark can kill bloodseekers allies and bloodseeker can't stop him from doing it

If Slark is ruptured during a teamfight he is pretty much useless due to how mobile he has to be to be effective, even when shadow dance rupture counter-acts if he's moving.

Plus >>161555708
>It's also important to note that BS has a massive AOE silence which goes through Shadow Dance, so if Slark wants to cop that as opposed to breaking off his leashed target on top of using a pact to remove it he's going to do about 450 pure damage to himself (Bloodraged Bloodrite + Pact).

>won't save you from slark, who will just click you to death with force staff

If you Eul's over the leash duration he'll have a tough time killing you unless he lands another pounce or has a basher / Skadi to slow you down.

BS will have the MS advantage from the Euls + any Thirst speed he's getting.

>you'll never have the benefit of globally hunting him down like you would a wounded crystal maiden trying to limp her way home

I don't know why you're stuck on the point that BS's purpose is to hunt / gank Slark, it's actually about BS's abilities hindering what Slark wants to do in a teamfight / smaller engagements.

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>>161556209
Because it's not a casual game. Whites and girls don't like that.

>>161556169
there needs to be an item that actually counters blademail

its retarded that you can spent a shit ton of gold on bkb or octarine and still get ruined by blademail on heroes like tinker

instead of dealing damage instantly, blademail should reflect projectile spikes that travel at 700 ms and can be disjointed

>teamfight breaks out
>rupture slark the second I see him
>he uses ult and tp's out
>...
>win teamfight and take objectives
you know being able to survive ganks that way is neat, but if all you do in teamfights is soaking up one 50 sec cd spell and then bailing out, you're not much of a carry

>because still talking about slark because of that shitpost 2 hours ago

>>161556237
>>161556209
Its not marketing it

You go on net and see LoL/hots adds everywhere

If It werent for a friend I probably wouldn't even give dota a try since it has no marketing

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Boston Major empty seats

Dotards?

>>161556327
Uhh, Satanic has been around for quite a long time now.
And if you're a nuker, black king bar.

>>161556209
Gritty artstyle, inaccessible learning curve, hostile and immature community

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>Wake up
>/d2g/ starved the Reddit thread to death

Thanks guys

>>161556327
>tinker

Try being the only one in your team doing anything, trying your best to win and succeding, but then end up losing because you can't kill enemies before they kill your team since blademail counters bkb xdxd

>>161556327
>>161556169
blademail is an item slot and 2k gold
why is it any more OP than blink, force, veil or euls?
most items in dota ARE strong, deal with it matey

>>161556242
>If Slark is ruptured during a teamfight he is pretty much useless due to how mobile he has to be to be effective, even when shadow dance rupture counter-acts if he's moving.

and again, you can't rupture him before he kills one of your allies
or bloodseeker himself, easily
and he can tp away with ease

you have a 0.4 cast animation single target spell that won't work if slark is invisible and can't be clicked or ults and can't be clicked, and even if you land it he can safely tp away and you can't interrupt it. Slark can just stroll up to you in shadow blade, right click you twice with echo, pounce, pop his ult before you can rupture him, kill you from full hp before his ult ends, then proceed killing your team unimpeded

slark can go aggressive against BS or defensive if he wants, slark can kill BS's allies or BS. BS can't kill slark, BS can't gank slark, BS can't interrupt slark's farm, BS can't do shit except sometimes force slark to temporarily retreat from a teamfight (AFTER GETTING A KILL)

>tfw Monkey King doesn't actually exist

>>161556434
>hostile and immature community

this is true for most games though

>enemy picks Timber
>girl voice: oh I got this guys
>picks Keeper
>never levels mana leak past 1
>puts all points into Illuminate, missing almost all of them
>timber runs a train on us
>lose
Because Dota punishes you if you do dumb things.

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>>161556454
Pretending to hate reddit is the greatest lie in history of reddit.

>>161556429
>>161556481
>>161556496
if you're a tinker with aghanims, what good is bkb going to be when the enemy has 3+ blademails

>if I ever want to cast rockets at all, I am forced to use bkb
>bkb will then be on cooldown for 80 seconds while their blademails come right back up again

literally all you could do to survive is euls yourself after every single cast, and thats a shit ton of mana, makes you useless in fights and probably suicidal too since they can gank you when cyclone ends

>>161556397
because it doesnt need marketing

it being on top of the steam charts is more than enough publicity

>>161556496
>2k item
>counter enemy rightclicking carry

Wow, so balanced. Others have atleast some counterplay


>>161556638
>tinker

Try being a gyro

enemies shouldn't be able to use bmail and just jump gyro

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>>161556638

>>161556638
Here's what you do
>wait 4 seconds for blademail to wear off
>spam missiles for the next 12 seconds

You literally have to be hitting them for blademail to hurt you.
Just don't hit them.
Just wait.
You're tinker you have infinite bkb anyways.

And fuck you for picking Tinker you selfish asshole.

>people still going on about BS vs slark

IDIOTS
WHAT PART OF THIS DONT YOU UNDERSTAND

THE HERO WHO COUNTERS SLARK
IS AXE

>3.2 second black hole that can't be dispelled by dark pact and works through shadow dance
>10 cd means he can't outmaneuver you and catch you on cd
>he can't kill you before 40 armor lmao
>blademail blows him up so fast even during his ult
>he can't kill your allies without you blinking in, saving them and killing slark
>blademail call is double god damn effective with blademail since dark pact will deal 450 damage to himself

>>161556638
well then thats 6k gold committed from the enemy team
imagine how unfair it would be if spending 6k gold on something WOULDNT stop an enemy hero?
>>161556723
ignore the hero
take advantage over the fact that he went blademail and not something else
get more hp/armor + lifesteal to tank through it
what do you want anon? its not like blademail is something that deletes heroes from the game
it does have counterplay, otherwise it would be bought much more often

re:161556723
posts like this is why 2k trashcans should be excluded form this general

>>161556417
white flight my man

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>>161556749
>You're tinker you have infinite bkb anyways.
BKB's Avatar active is not rearmable.

>>161556749
they don't have to all use their blademails at the same time
just nuking yourself for 350 damage every time you press W means you'll be dead in like 3 casts after soul ring's effects
but the potential of getting buttblasted for 1050 is disgusting

and listen
you can't wait for their blademails to end when they have multiples
they can wait until they see rockets heading their way before they blademail

so you're guaranteed to take shit tons of damage unless you just spam euls on yourself
>You're tinker you have infinite bkb anyways.
bkb isn't rearmable

>>161556820
It's not about item choices, sure you can buy satanic and counter it

But a 2k item shouldn't require 6k item to be countered. There's this effect of surprise too where you see enemies suddenly have bmails that they didn't show and now you have to stop all you were doing and save up like 8k for satanic and buyback

>>161556770
am,void,storm are good too

>>161556985
theres no 6k item for tinker to counter blademails
maybe satanic SHOULD have "you take 0 damage from reflected sources during satanic's active"
then satanic tinker would be a thing

>>161557040
there's bkb

you might not be able to mindlessly spam rockets just like that but atleast you can teamfight

>>161557013
>am
no way to kill slark
>void
constantly purged time aids and no damage on his own means he'll wind up in chronos where slark just survives by tanking up
>storm
utterly reliant on killing a hero before his mana runs out, and cannot kill slark, so slark can just outlast him and pick him off as he's oom

>>161556892
You can totally wait.
There's nothing stoping you from waiting.

Fuck if they're sieging you can just pelt them from fountain.
You're complaining you can't do free damage to people from 1800 range. You know what the ONLY counterplay to that is? Blademail.
Either git gud and learn to play around it or leave.

Dota is a team game. Its not a 1v9 game. Any blademail used on you is a blademail not used on your teammates.
If you force out early blademail then your team can take advantage of that.
Oh wait they have no farm because you had a game to lose and vacuumed all the farm since you can't play around an item with 5-1 downtime.

>>161556828
sik meme bruh

>>161556985
i hear you say this, but I honestly cant think of times when blademail has been a game winning item.
the only hero its core on is axe, and everyone else its situational on
I really think you're not realising how big of an impact it is to spend 2k~ gold in the midgame on something that isnt bkb, shadowblade, force, BoT or whatever carry item it is you want.
its also an extra slot, and you gotta be carefull with how you fill your item slots, if you get nothing but 2k~ midgame items then the game is gonna get HARD for you in the lategame unless you are doing really well and can casually schmack a BoT into your build

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>>161557110
never post here again

>>161555836
be zai

>>161556892
so what, 3 guys on the enemy team are standing there taking turns tanking rockets?
i mean, yeah it fucks the tinker, but what the fuck are they gonna do about the REST of the team?
tanking rockets isn't gonna win you the game

>>161557174
guess what

the boston major tickets are still on sale

>>161557116
if you did nothing but cast a single shot of missiles and then wait before casting the next one to see if enemies activate blademail

then you'd be casting 1 shot every like 6 seconds and taking 350-1050 damage per salvo anyway
if 2 people pop blademail on the first shot, and you take 700 damage, then you wait 5 seconds for blademail to end before casting again, the other guy pops blademail while its midair, you wait again, then bam the other guys are already off cooldown again in time for you to try it again lmao

>>161557234
Who said you must get it on a carry?

Speaking of which
Literally nothing worse than playing against spectre with radiance and blademail

>>161557110
now this is bait

>>161557319
3 guys on the enemy team are strolling highground to kill your barracks
if you cast march or try to spam them down with rockets, you fucking die

nice highground defense hero lmao

>>161557319
shh anon every dota 2 games happens in a vacuum and are always 1 hero vs 5

>>161556530
>and again, you can't rupture him before he kills one of your allies

If Slark has to used Shadow Dance early just to avoid Rupture then that makes him pretty vulnerable to dying from other members on your team and considering his shtick is to pick off someone weak quickly his life would be more valuable to take then most likely the support he's jumping on first.

>Slark can just stroll up to you in shadow blade, right click you twice with echo, pounce, pop his ult before you can rupture him, kill you from full hp before his ult ends, then proceed killing your team unimpeded

If any hero is just 'strolling up to you invisible' all the time then I don't really have a lot of faith in the bracket you're coming from.

There's several key areas where a sentry can be placed to either watch for invis ganks or for protection when pushing.

Once Slark is ruptured he either has to shadow dance and fuck off or die, which means more objectives for your team.

>>161556530
>BS can't kill slark,

He doesn't have to, he just have to put him in a much more vulnerable position to be killed.

BS can't gank slark,

I've already established that isn't the point of BS against Slark

BS can't interrupt slark's farm,

If Slark is forced to TP home as opposed to regularly just jumping back into fog to regen and continue farming then yes, his farm is quite easily interrupted.

Running out of characters, but Slark will rarely have any HP regen items in the early - mid game until Vanguard / Abyssal.

>>161557332
Great, you have three people devoting their full attention to tanking rockets. Maybe your team can do something about this during the massive downtime in their blademails they used to discourage a 280 damage nuke after resistances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so_v_JKSjE8

Here is that shit 2nd part of the documentary Valvo did.
In case any of you mongoloids didn't checked it yet.

It sure was smart for all of you losers to spend money in the battle pass shit in order to get to see this.
It's like I just didn't get to watch it just now literally for FREE, lol.

Also this fucking documentary is a joke, a fucking literal clownfest.
These fucking man-children are the reason why video-games will never be taken seriously a sport and yet you retards keep eating this shit up by the spoon.

Color me surprised really. All of this god damn Millennial trash is the utmost proof that this society is falling more and more into degeneracy without hope in sight.

>>161557394
they would still have to be out of position to get in there
also you could get euls on tinker
literally 2.8k gold to counter 6k gold

>>161557040
>yeah just buy blademails and tinker is useless
youre just the slark guy fishing for (you)s, arent you.

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>>161556589
Level 1 or 2 should be enough mana leak to beat a timber... unless they're good or their team can back then up.

>>161557394
Oh gee whiz boss looks like these guys built items to counter me. Maybe I should build items to counter them? I have over 700gpm after all.

Naaah I'll just get a Dagon. Im sure playing 1v9 is fine, I don't need to adapt or change my play style based on what my opponents are doing.

>>161557428
>just to avoid Rupture
he's killing someone on your team, maybe bloodseeker or anyone else
slark can invisi in, hit someone, pounce, right click during ult, escape
>There's several key areas where a sentry can be placed to either watch for invis ganks

HES A SLARK
he KNOWS if you lay a sentry, he sees it, he backs off
the hero has fucking built in anti-sentry vision

you cannot counter slark by laying sentries to see him coming because he'll never get baited into a trap like a riki could, because he KNOWS if you see him

>>BS can't kill slark,
>He doesn't have to,
gee what a counterpick
you can't kill slark, but slark can kill you, and the best thing you can do is minorly inconvenience him

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>>161557394
so the mid, the hc and the offlaner all buy blademails and walk into march
and this somehow translates into a win for them

do dotards complain only about heroes they can't simply right click to death?
>muh slark with 3 escapes and free tarrasque so i can't simply jump on him
>muh waternigger morphing str so he always stays at 200 hp and i can't kill him
>muh timber with 60 armor takes no damage from my auto attack
the only exception i can remember is OD, but that's understandable since he often gets all those flashy rampages if he snowballs

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>>161557491
why are they devoting their full attention to "tanking rockets"
they can be right clicking your barracks
what are you going to do, rocket them? march? aghanims laser? all good ways for tinker to die instantly to blademails

>massive downtime in their blademails
the only reason they'd all pop blademails at the same time is if tinker was dumb enough to cast march or spam multiple rockets. Otherwise they'd just use their discretion and activate them one by one when rockets are incoming to ensure at least 350 reflected

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Question: Why Valve makes major in Boston if Americans don't play nor like this game?

>>161557675
Level 1 leak is anemic once Timber has mana regen.
The strength of leak is you can chakra, cast it, stun for 3 seconds, reapply leak as the stun wears off to chain stun for 6 seconds.

You think Timber gives a single goddamn shit you stunned him for 1 second with level 1 leak? No. q and w cost 70 mana.

Level 1 mana leak is useless against people who are recovering a lot of mana.

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>>161557717
yeah because big strengthy tank heroes can afford to lose 20% of their HP and regenerate it 10 seconds later while tinker is still dead

how does a teamfight like this go if the enemy team builds blademails?
heroes like axe, doom, alchemist, OD all have HP to spare and regenerate

>>161557795
So what are Tinkers 4 teammates doing at this time?
Why are they pushing high ground and you have no answer to them?
You can still nuke the fuck out of them just get in fountain.

Hell. Buy a Hood. It's returning magic damage if it's hurting that bad get some magic resist.

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What's the Dota 2 equivalent of this?

>>161558005
>So what are Tinkers 4 teammates doing at this time?
losing a 4v5 game where tinker can't help them

>You can still nuke the fuck out of them just get in fountain.
yea like the fountain saved tinker in that webm

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>they still think blademail counters tinker

what if instead of building gold pinata glass cannon items
you just built damageless
and won teamfights for your team without suiciding???

>>161557708
>slark can invisi in, hit someone, pounce, right click during ult, escape
>>you cannot counter slark by laying sentries to see him coming because he'll never get baited into a trap like a riki could
>he KNOWS if you lay a sentry, he sees it, he backs off

Great, so now he's not ganking, initiating, or doing anything you just said because he has to 'back off' all the time.

I'd say that's a pretty good counter to me considering he's a snowballing carry who really wants to gank.

>gee what a counterpick
>you can't kill slark, but slark can kill you

His top counter on DotaBuff is IO, there's also Earth Spirit and Void.

These heroes don't kill him, but they sure make it a hell of a lot easier for your team to.

This is how things work for counters with a bunch of heroes like AA stopping ones reliant on regen.

>>161558060
If only Tinker had built defensive items that could also be used to help his teammates.
Alas, Tinker players are selfish assholes who want to farm the same items every game and do their combos for 70 minutes until the enemy team ganks him for 3000 gold and they push high ground and actually play Dota instead of Tinker.

>>161557234
Hosker

>>161558186
>Great, so now he's not ganking, initiating, or doing anything you just said because he has to 'back off' all the time.
and ur gonna what, obs AND sentry every square inch of the map?
because slark sees your sentry at a choke point and sees you before you see him, sees you seeing him and turns around, then probes for a different angle of entering your jungle

slark is the single least gankable hero in the game, you cannot sneak up on him, you cannot get the drop on him, you can't stop him from ganking or initiating. All you could possibly do is 5 man down mid in a clump with gem, and then good luck winning a teamfight

>>161557834
neither one of those things are true you idiot

not surprising that some anime retard is an idiot though i guess

>slark can kill bloodseeker
>bloodseeker can't kill slark
>bloodseeker can't stop slark from killing his allies

>axe can kill slark
>slark can't kill axe
>axe can stop slark from killing his allies

what did he mean by this?

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I walk a lonely road
The only road that I have ever known

>>161558589
6.89: Rod of Atos remade
Old Rod of Atos:
>Slows by 60% for 4 seconds, 10 cooldown
New Rod of Atos:
>Slows by 100% for 3.25 seconds, 14 cooldown, and prevents 100% of damage dealt to the caster by the target for the duration

>>161556132
ee just seems like the kind of guy who has erectile dysfunction

>>161558589
If it slowed attack speed too it'd be good.
As is, it's a slow that grants hp and Int.

Who wants this? No strength or agility heroes. They have their own slows and tank up items. What Int heroes exist that
1. Can afford it
2. Need a slow

Srsly make it slow attack speed by like 80 and it'd at least be worth the gold.

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Enchantress

>>161558838
>remade
>is actually just a massive overpowered buff

Use words correctly, dummy.

>tfw /d2g/ still hasn't realised the best way to deal with that little cunt named Slark is to simply ban him

dotard dick

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>>161558912
Aiushtha's daughter

>>161559064
I wish bans were guaranteed instead of 50/50

Seriously can't just be "ban first 3 heroes selected per team"
We gotta have RNG on our bans too?

>>161558912
What the fuck

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>>161558912
the nose knows

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>Ancient Apparition has been nominated for banning.

reminder that whining about your team and slark is the most reddit thing to do

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>>161558838
>build this on phoenix
>win at least 75% of dotes I play

Uhmm...

>>161559258
Both of those are time honored gulag traditions you fucking newfag.
Anyone have the shitty MS paint of Axe watching his team feed first blood and blame him?

slark isn't even that good
sure he's a fine hero that even pros win with

but he has his problems/weaknesses
it's just that people draft poorly in pub games, people dont' play aggressively enough
and people feed in pubs

>>161559304
it wouldn't even work on phoenix egg
phoenix egg is a different unit than phoenix, it wouldn't prevent damage to your egg

also you already have
>fire spirits
>heaven's halberd
>sheepstick
>shivas
for that purpose

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>>161558589
I don't know where it goes
But it's only me and I walk a--

Is Aghs core on Drow. I have been playing her a bit and have been getting it before 15 at around lvl 8.

>>161559406
thing is, noobs think that if slark slips away, he has accomplished something truly amazing and game winning!
however, when good players play against slark, they simply abuse the fact that all he did was to put his ult on cd and run away
now he cannot commit in fights
and you know what else slark can't do for shit?
hit towers
he
cannot
force
objectives
he HAS to kill
and when he HAS to do something, all you have to do is accomodate for it, unlike morph who can both look for pickoffs AND preassure towers
thats why slark is not OP
if he could take down towers with just echo pt and shadowblade, he would be OP
but he can't
so he isnt

>>161559406
You can bet that he'll still get nerfed to hell
Competitive balance doesn't matter, the frog balances for pub enjoyment. There's a reason Techies got utterly trashed when he already had a near nonexistent competitive pick rate

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post
>yfw
slark will be untouched in the next patch, maybe an indirect nerf through echo sabre/shadowblade

>>161559496
yea. slap a bloodstone in there and you become a beast

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Will the next update be 6.89 or 7.0?

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>>161559608
>shadow blade nerf
fucking 2k mmr cunt

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>tfw pubbies are all your prey and you masturbate every time you spawn camp them and let your guttural orgasm cream all over mic for your team

>>161559775
hopefully 7.0 and icefrog just goes full madman on the game

>>161559535
>Hero single handedly dismantles teams at TI
>non existant comp pick rate
He had a 7-2 winrate at TI5, and the games he lost he was played by Leviathan and CoL.
Sounds like his nerf was justified.

>>161559846
icefrog isnt real

>>161557834
Valve is lazy and doesn't want to move their shit to another country

>>161559806
my bade, I meant silveredge
like 13 to stats instead of 15, nittypick like that

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>icefrog is actually a slark picker

>>161559879
>people ACTUALLY believe this

>>161559870
>>Hero single handedly dismantles teams at TI
>during the leshrac patch of all things
>literally 9 picks throughout the entire tournament, as a situational hero much like huskar who excelled when drafted properly
Whoa drafts and counters, can't have that now can we. He was so broken he was totally picked every game!!!! There were only 9 games at TI right??

>>161558418
>NA dota
>not dead

http://www.ticketmaster.com/venueartist/8248/2298626

can't even sell out for the fucking FINALS.

the theater seats 3500 people and they couldn't sell that many tickets for ANY of the days

Valves incompetent as shit, you know that for a fact

>>161560138
Then he has don't a shit job with him. he almost a
>Pick
>Lose
Hero

>>161559870
He was only really competitively good in combination with Tusk. He saw very, very little competitive play and was almost nowhere to be seen at TI. The techies bans against EG in the finals were something, but they were more out of fear of unknown strategies than anything. In later matches EG's techies turned out to be pretty damn lackluster on their own.
His land mines getting changed to how they are now would effectively nerf the tusk combo (and his laning) to not be complete bullshit, but the other changes are completely unwarranted for competitive balance. Not exploding on death AND being killable with quelling blade was total overkill and ruined any place he might have as a counter to punish 5-melee lineups. The nerf's only purpose was to cater to pubs and arteezy fanboys.

You're fucking delusional if you think he was legitimately overpowered with his 50% pub winrate, it was a change purely made to pander to the normal skill bracket.

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>the nuclear bomb wasn't OP, it just was used twice bro!

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>>161560142
prove it fag

>>161559535
>There's a reason Techies got utterly trashed when he already had a near nonexistent competitive pick rate

He actually had a strong showing when he was used at TI5.

Techies is a unique case.

Slark isn't gonna be touched.

>>161560407
Lich had a 100% winrate over his 5 games when he was picked at TI5
How has this horseshit not gotten nerfed yet wtf?

>>161557834
there are like 10 people in America who play this game, no way they should get a major AND TI

>>161560509
Because he was situationally strong in a proper draft, as niche heroes should be. PA had a similar turnout with a 75% winrate over 8 picks.

Are you not physically capable of reading and comprehending the fact that he was picked a grand total of 9 times over hundreds of games, or how the process of drafting works in general? Work your way out of 4k before you share your ignorant opinions.

>>161558880
nah he would be like dirty faceless old man in doujin who cums really hard with lots of semen while gasping hard

>>161560810
The faceless bald fat old man that cucks the MC?

>>161560854
>>list of MC got "cucked" by EE
>H4nni
>ar1se
>shitsu
>LULda
>poopey

we should rename tinker to kinker and change his ult from rearm to ream

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>tfw you will never be part of this

>>161560782
>ignorant opinions
>he thinks heroes are balanced based on pub performance

Kek.

The only heroes who have been nerfed because of pubs have been SB way back when and Techies (which is like I said, a unique case).

The pub experience doesn't matter otherwise, that's why Abaddon, Necro and Omni were barely touched or even received buffs despite their high pub winrates because they didn't see any comp play.

Omni got his nerfs after some consistent comp picks and you could actually see that he could be pretty bullshit sometimes.

Your putting your ebin '4k knowledge' on a pedestal when it's just as shit as 3k opinions. 4k is literally the start of competency at playing this game.

What's a good anti-stealth support?

>>161561278
you should leave

This game needs more gnomes

Gerdhardt the Garden Gnome

Gerdhard is a Garden Gnome, and inanimate object. He has no idle animation and his walking animation is him just jumping. His attack Animation is him swirling around to hit enemies with his gardening implement.
Melee Intelligence Hero

Q - Gardening
>wave-cone AoE
>a wave that creates a field of flowers
>all enemies hit by the wave are damaged and slowed slightly
>allies on the field of flowers receive Health- and Manaregen
>Gerhardt moves faster on the field of flowers

W - Identical Production
>creates an illusion and stealthes and phases Gerhardt
>illusions do not act in any way
>lasts 30/40/50/60 seconds
>low cooldown
>if the illusion is destroyed or expires, it deals damage to enemies in an area

D - Replace
>instantly teleports to and destroys a target illusion
>range 2000/2000/3000/4000
>levels with "Identical Production"

E - Get off my lawn!
>passive
>when close to enemies, Gerhardt gains a stack of Anger every 1.5 seconds
>5 stacks maximum
>range 800
>when attacking an enemy, he deals extra damage for every stack
>if Gerhardt has more than 3 stacks, he also knocks the enemy back, increases with stacks

R - MORE GNOMES!
>instantly creates 4/5/6 illusions around Gerhardt that only live 5 seconds
>The Gnomes rush towards the center of the circle after creatin, trapping enemies
>Scepter upgrade: Makes the spell targettable at a range of 900

>>161561549
Dust and siege wards
So tl:dr long range stuns with low cast time

Gem is pretty horrible, because if its feed, you lose ALL the wards on the map.

>>161561506
Necro/omni/ect. were never really high impact or noticeable in a pub scenario. Tinker and Techies very much were, and both received heavy nerfs solely for the sake of pubs despite both having very low competitive pick rates at the time.
>you could actually see that he could be pretty bullshit sometimes
Confirmed for being in the normal or high skill bracket where nobody buys situational diffusal
>trying to justify being 4k
well thanks for admitting you're braindead

is this an account buyer?

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/50638422

>piece of shit lc is afk jungle
>say I will feed if she won't fight
>'go ahead'
>feed courier and myself while blocking jungle
>lc is pissed and confused but joins fights
>we win

Holy shit, stuff like this is only possible in this piece of shit game. Also, fatlods is broken, if you win a teamfight and stay alive you easily get 70 damage and melt towers.

>Techies gets destroyed so pubs can live in peace
>Now every annoying hero has the "what if Icefrog pulls another Techies" mark on their backs, even if they're bad in competitive
Techies was a mistake, even their gutting has brought constant pain.

Why do people get enjoyment from creating smurfs and stomping new players?

Do they also enjoy beating up 5-year-olds?

>>161561620
monkeyking.txt

>>161549196
>sumail has Pakistani passport and no US citizenship
>drumpfkins voted for drumpf
>he will send him back to pakistan
>NA dota is dead

daym feels good to be european

Hope Sumail comes to Sweden after drumpf is in office

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>Monkey King Bar
>Monkey King hero soon

>Black King Bar
>no Black King hero

Dotards?

>>161562104
WE

>>161562006
>Sumail going to Sweden and not Canada
You know EG is more Canadian than it is American, right?

>>161554873
I'm moving to paladins and quake champs

>>161562006
sumail is just as much of a meme as arteezy is

>>161562006
Sumail and his family are legal immigrants except Yawar who hasn't prove his worth.

>>161561742
>Necro/omni/ect. were never really high impact or noticeable in a pub scenario

They had close to 60% winrates across all brackets, even in 5k+ Omni has a 58.53% and Abaddon has 54.87, #1 and #3 respectively. Necro's winrate is the only one that's tanked over time.

They can't have a high winrate like that and not be high impact you moron.

Tinker was nerfed from his heavy competitive presence, primarily to do with his ability to farm ancients.

>Confirmed for being in the normal or high skill bracket where nobody buys situational diffusal

I'm 5.7 and I very much doubt you're going to share your MMR or even reply to this post now/

Thinking diffusal blade is the be-all-end-all item to Omni gets the true retard opinion award.

Let me know if you ever break 5k my man.

>>161562347
no they arent
If you watch that documentary whatever its called the EG manager says "Sumail is a huge problem because he has Pakistani passport and needs visa to every country we travel to"

Is weaver getting nerfed?

>tfw you curse the road instead of running

>>161561576
>doesnt like sex

lol

>>161562484
what I meant is his family didn't do shady shit to go and live in America compared to the Mexicans crossing borders illegally to live here

>>161562479
How convenient that you ignored the whole "noticeable" thing, which was my entire point.
When heroes noticeably have an impact on pub games, they're going to get gutted. Tinker, SB, and techies all followed this pattern, they "changed the game too much" or were "too frustrating to counter or play against"
Omni/abaddon excel in (low skill) brackets when played as supports, thus receiving much less attention

So what was your argument to begin with then, that techies was overpowered? Or are you just trying to save face at this point?
You've already proven you're sub-5k normal skill trash

>>161562796
It's the same as mexicans.
They came and never left.

What do I do if the opposing mid player walks up my side of the ramp and starts harassing me? Walk past him and take a lot of damage? Walk up his ramp?
Retreat through the river/jungle?

>>161562824
>prodotards start to slowly acquire progotards looks

>>161563059
This is them literally cucking you in the lane.

If you don't assert lane dominance or aggression they will just keep harassing you back and out because they're not afraid of you.

If they have the hero advantage you need rotations to gank them so they don't play so far forward so willingly.

>>161563110
what do you mean?

>>161555832
https://discord.gg/kK6s9Ud

>>161563110
well pro go players are p much the only good looking esports so it is what it is

>>161563059
Attack move in a manner where their lane creeps hit them.
Unless its a super tanky hero like Dragon Knight, which in case you attack move under tower, because it hurts him too much to dive it

>peruvians report me for speaking english

kill yourself if you speak spanish

>>161563420
>not bilingual in 201x
anon

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>>161563289
>:(
dont play with me like that

>>161560156
>>161560345
He was probably overnerfed but to say there was no reason from a professional standpoint is pretty ridiculous.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of pros wanted him nerfed like that just to not have to deal with him. He's amazingly obnoxious to play against.

>>161563420
>Not being a polyglot

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>will never, ever be able to get that beautiful desert terrain

fuck my life

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dotards...

>>161553931
Techies, Timbersaw, Ogre Magi, Bristleback, Tusk Etc. Etc.

>>161556561
No, dota is worst in this regard since it's very team dependant, has average 40 minutes games and doesn't filler anything (no regionlock, no riot type babysitting).

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>tfw no loli hero

>>161564052
>soloqueue
you deserved it

>>161563594
what

>>161564109
me on the left

>>161554898
You mixed WR and LC

>>161563931
Can't u just download the map and put it in the download folder in place of the default one

>>161564116
I am not complaining but that what 80% of all playerbase play and just now Valve started to wake up and do shit like battle cup. It's both game being very team dependant and complicated plus hands down approach from Valve that makes people go crazy all the time. There is no other game to my knowing that has same level of toxicity. I am not advocating for anything tho, I accept how it is.

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>have an alchemist
>lose 25 mmr
what did dota2 mean by this?

>>161564860
>toxicity
fuck
off

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Imagine a world where only white people played DotA

>play sd
>2stack on my team are complete shitters
>one is retarded and spends the entire game whining on mic, this faggot can't even move his hero while pressing G to speak
>other one is an obvious high school dropout who confuses "his" and "he's"
>they call me gook and do that chingchong shit that's supposed to be offensive but I'm not sure
>queue again and they're on the opposite team
>one of them plays mid sf, goes 1-16 and builds pipe
>other one goes 5-9 riki and sells his items at the end
Biblical. Justice.
Pretty sure it doesn't get better than this.

>>161565380
White people on Dota is a recent thing, unless you count CIS as white

>>161565380
>dota dies off 10 years ago

seems like a better world

>>161565380
>na t1 teams would be like Freedom or FDL
>euro and cis will win everything
>and I mean literally everything
pretty sure this is the dystopian 1985 where marty finds out biff is his dad

i want OG truesight to see n0tail calling people faggots and other slurs behind the scenes

>20 minutes in
>Losing 2-23
>Can't surrender

Defend this Dotards.

ELEVEN DAYS BOYS

QUOTE FROM AUI: "SOME OF THE DEVS I'VE TALKED TO SAY THAT NEXT PATCH IS GOING TO COMPLETELY SHAKE UP THE GAME."

WHAT COULD THE FROG POSSIBLY HAVE COOKED IN THAT CAULDRON OF HIS FOR 7 MONTHS?

WE'LL FIND OUT IN ELEVEN DAYS.