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Extra Dead Edition

Previous chapter: >>161350342


>Latest Patch Notes:
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=749

>Latest Q&A
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=733

>Can I play the game now?
International version available on Steam RIGHT NOW. The Korean and Japanese servers are non-steam(Nexon)

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Addon-Manager

>Cards List:
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/list-boss-cards-and-effects/321599

>Extra Stat Points
http://pastebin.com/6Y3R7aYt


>Servers
- iTOS: Klaipeda (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>/tosg/ Guilds info:
There is no /tosg/ guild in Varena/Silute/Orsha, if you want one, either wait for someone to make one or roll a Templar.
If Guild is recruiting, please post in the thread.

>Klaipeda
Futureproof (Cats)
CuteNotLewd (Plasmagica)
cute (Merigolds)
Ohayou (Beethoven)
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Is Comfy and CoffeeHouse dead
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>>161472602
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>>161477559
Yes
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Did anyone else notice that there are only Klaipeda guilds listed in the OP?
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>>161477619
Yes
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>Testing something
>Die
>Gem falls out
>Gem recovers to my body before the body is dead on the ground
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>>161478303
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>>161477619
And it's pretty accurate desu
Atleast for EU, Coffee is reported as dead
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>>161479517
What? But they told me to whisper Capyba in the thread just a few weeks ago.
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>>161479607
Few weeks is a lot of time in ToS now
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Turns out if you have maxed out movement speed and an ability that hits screen lenght and melts leather mobs even in R8 maps, questing in Inner 8 and 9 is a piece of piss provided you bring a fuckload of potions and sponsored Rhevisan set. Also /tosg/ stop being rude to me, I'm simply posting about the gaaaame :^)

Also RIP Cawfee, sad to hear for your loss. Always thought Capy would last much longer. '_'7
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>Pyro c1> Linker c1
I need an Alch c3 build.

Is linker c2 worth it?
Is Linker c1> Thau c1> Chrono c1 just a meme?
Is Sorc c1 viable right now?
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>another attention whore bites the dust

nice
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>>161480312
>Chrono c1
is shit

>Thau c1
is weak

>Linker c1
weak too, get C2
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HEY NERDS! ITS LECREME IN THIS BITCH!
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>>161480312
I have a Pyro C2, Linker C1/Thauma C1 Alchemist build.

It's terrible. Absolutely terrible. No one will want you to link anything. You will have to get a Dendel gem to even be viable. It's a great spec to farm Uosis with, provided no one else is camping the map but outside that place it's bad.

Go Wiz 3 > Linker 2. It's more futureproof and you can even solo maps no problem.
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>>161480469
i want to put my creme in some bitch
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Is this game dead? Thought about picking it up
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>>161480602
>Wiz 3
Please elaborate.
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>>161480740
Linker1 is shit, as >>161480602 said
Wiz3 is maybe better then Pyro
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>>161480602
>>161481207

Woud you rather have a Wiz 3> Link 2 than a Pyro 2>Link 2 in your party?
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>>161480740
Why?

>>161481240
Pyro C2 offers almost nothing. If you want Agni meme's go ahead.

The interaction with magic missle and linking mobs is by far better than Lvl10 fireballs, pillar and ground. Like I said, I have a Pyro C2. The spells deal next to no damage and you won't be playing an alchemist for damage anyway.
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>>161477559
Yes.
Coffee is Missing in Action.
Comfy moved to Minecraft.
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>>161480654
Not dead but stagnant.
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>>161481416
>Coffee is Missing in Action

What does that even supposed to mean? Did the players just vanish or something? Why are people so secret about it?
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>>161481240
for party grind any Linker2 is ok
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>>161481707
Anon, please don't talk about our loss...
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>>161481707
Literally disappeared without a word.
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>>161477568
Hunter is a PvP meme unless you dip 3 circles in it.

Could you people stop raving about Agni Necklace? We've been saying it over and over that it won't save your class, your base atk is too fucking low and you'll still do 1 damage to Rank8 content stuff.

And you can turn market bought hats into medals, stop getting missinfo'd.
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>>161477568
Your only hope for C2 Hunter in PvE would be Fletcher3 Mergen, and praying for Coursing/Pointing rework.
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I will never find a build i like.
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>>161477568
Go hunter3 for growling. Falconer pairs nicely with musket, scout is a more pvp choice but offers nice utility.
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>>161481969
>Hunter is a PvP meme unless you dip 3 circles in it.
Is hunter 1 memetic enough for pvp?
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>>161483237
Yes, but hunter2 offers hounding and retrieve, more useful pvp-oriented skills.
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>GM Mango: "Im not a guy like him!!"

I'M GONNA MARRY [GM]MANGO!
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>>161481385
>you won't be playing an alchemist for damage anyway.
Exactly.
I just want to know the easiest path to achieve alch c3.

If I don't want to reroll, what build do you suggest for pyro c1>link c2?
Thanks for the help.
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>>161477559
>>161481416
only the regular posters(incl Katz) are busy irl
rest are either shy,lurking or playing
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What's the consensus about saving exp cards nowadays?
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>>161484432
Worth doing sometimes, but mostly just feel free to use them when you want to.
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>>161484432

Still do it if you can.

Spawn rates seem higher and getting exp in general seems easier than the first time round thanks to better exp tomes, instance clear vouchers and just more quests. No point in using every exp card you get just because you have them though.
I know you basically don't need to stop and grind now until Alemeth. Just use cards to keep in level range until then.
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you have 3 seconds to name a build with archer c3, ready? GO!
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>>161485009
Scout 3, Ranger 1, Mergen

Scout 3, Falconer, Mergen

There you go.
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>>161485009
fletcher 3 with scout 1
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>>161485009
Scout, Rogue C3, Hackapell
It's a classic and Rogue C3 will be good someday!
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>>161485009

Archer 3 -> Hang self from tree
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>>161485009
REROLL
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>>161485009
You can use almost everything in the Archer tree while Burrowed, it'd make a good combo with Rogue3.
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>>161485009
Archer 3 Wugu 2 Falconer 3
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>>161481969
>>161483070
I thought Growling was mostly a nuisance due to making your pet stuck or just not working at all to be worth the extra circle?

>>161482225
This one is seems pretty solid, though I kind of wanted to try Musketeer. What should I max besides Magic Arrow? Is 50 CON rest DEX good enough?
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>>161486187
This reminds me of that guy from iCBT2 who was the first dude to get to Lv200. He was an Archer3Wugushi3.

Of course he did it using the infinite exp card exploit almost a month before we learned it existed, but it was still something.
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>>161481707
>Did the players just vanish or something
Thats exactly what happened.
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>>161486398
No he didn't
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>>161486895
He got there way, way before anybody else did. The majority of players didn't even know about the demon prison grind by the time he had made the forum post about it.
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THIS IS BULLSHIT
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>>161486607
Just start a new guild with active peeps.
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>>161487317
This is the one you already had, isn't it? Poor Simony, you'll never get the other one.
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>>161487472
There aren't any.
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>>161487928
I'm so sorry.
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>>161487317
what's the problem autist? just make a rhevisan it's 10 times better
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>>161488009
>autist
not an argument
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>>161488009
I need the other one so I can have my magic defense applied as damage. Idc about Rhevisan I could get one for PvP but not that important to me.
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>>161488103
I thought FP was all about pvp
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>>161488162
>pvp
LOL

focusing on pvp is what will kill FP
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>>161487079
He didn't exploit
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tfw no uiiii gf
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>>161489430
>>161489565
So they've moved past "Acho-"?
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Help me lads, I have a Shepard, Luchador and a Matador good to good, i want to add in a Cannon c3 in the mix, and I plan on going A2>Sapper3>Scout>Cannon, I only want Sapper because the gameplay is comfy, but anyway help me with a few questions

>How good are the ktos updates on Sapper (if you have a link id aprpeciate it) would it be enough to max claymore instead?

>How is Cannon c2

>Hows Cannonade

>Hows Bazooka

>what does the attributes do
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>>161481416

What server! save me from this!
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>>161491046
124.82.I'm not sure I can share that.
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tfw no werewolf cards for sale on Klai
Dead game.
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>>161491447

add me on steam then

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198161753947
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>>161491684
Oi fuck mate, I recognize your name somehow.
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>finally reach the point the game turns into a grind
>bots control every single good grinding spot

Can IMC do anything right?
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>>161491684
>CnLfag

good riddance
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>>161491967
>grinding before 210
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>>161490109
Make a cannon2 if you like being absolutely useless
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>>161491967
NIGGA WHAT?

BOTS IN ALEMETH NOW?
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>>161486353
>>161486353
Help me, lads. I'm on the job advancement screen right now.
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>>161492508
If you really want Musket, then I'd say Hunter3 Falcon is a good pick.
There just isn't anything else that you could go with, maybe Rogue instead of Falcon, but that's about it.
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>>161492060
You mean FP.
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Should we just make a bigger Minecraft server for /tosg/?
Running some mod, because >vanilla.
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>>161492817
>minecraft

hahaha oh god so was true that this general is full of underages hahaha
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>>161492690
I'll just start with Hunter3 and decide later then, thanks.
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>>161492918
You're welcome too Anon, but you'll have to stop trying so hard.
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>>161493052
>playing a game for literal 10 year olds

fuck off please
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>>161493118
It's a game made for 4chan though, did you forget?
It still has more content than ToS, even in vanilla. You'd have a much better time with us buddy.
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>>161493486
>minecraft, vanilla or not
>content
Alright you are fucking autistic then. Thank fuck you're leaving and dont come back.
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>>161493954
But I'm still here Anon, and will be. I might be free from the game, but threads are like my second home.
I'd say something about your poor taste in anime for posting KyoAni, but that'd be rude, trying to make friends here.
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>>161490109
I have a cannon2, cannon2 is the same as cannon1 Cannon Blast whenever is out CD, but now you have Smoke Screen to boost you damage a little.

Cannonade is alright, not like Cannoneer has any other good skills.
Bazooka is horrible
There is attributes to Siege Burst to remove magic circles/field spells, kinda like Counter Spell, but way weaker.

It's a weak class overall in pve, but I like it. Has some 1 shotting potential on pvp with cannon blast 10, but I don't really play that.
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Ohayou is recruiting
New players, Old players (masochists)
You're welcome to join
If you want to get powerd leveled, raise a hammy or have fun
Whisper Beethoven for a invite
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>>161496165
Fuck off, you disgusting ERPers. Futureproof needs new players more than you!
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>>161496165
>Kora being tsundere
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>>161497589
>>161496165
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I just bought TP, how long does it take to hit your account?
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>>161498034
retard
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>>161498034
>Giving imc your money when ToS is going to shutdown in a few months
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>>161498034
retard
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>>161498034
bad idea
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>>161498204
>>161498190
>>161498059
There's no need to be upset that you're poor, anons.

The amount I spent literally doesn't even factor into my daily budget, let alone what I regularly play with over a year.
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>>161498380
lol yeah bro i usually just rip up my pay checks and throw them into the trash too
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>>161498034

When the game closes :^)
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>>161498524
>pay checks
>he's not an employer
ayyy
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>>161498034
usually instantly, but there is some minutes/hours delay recently.
send a ticket if it takes long
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Archer Sailor Outfits next week
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Can someone help? I have no fucking clue. Every other skill just hits like a wet noddle compared to Deth. I just don't fucking know anymore.
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So spr doesn't seem to affect skeletons at all, while int affects them a lot. Int and spr seem to give the shoggoth like 1.5 times int/spr as atk/def with that becoming 3x with a 10*. The description says .8 but it might actually be 1.6 and the stars give it 90% more.

Putting full in spr made my shoggoth able to tank the dames in inner wall 8 and take 1s from non specials and only hundreds at best from special attacks. It has like 2299 def. It still has a huge natural attack too, so being full spr might actually be viable if I hide away and let the shoggoth tank. It's definitely worth finding a way to get spr while having int though, since the skeletons do less than shit with no int. Flesh cannon and weapons have such a high attack combined that int doesn't really matter and pole doesn't really matter with anything, though shards go with your magic attack.

I wish there was a way to "transpose" int to spr before casting shoggoths.
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>>161499159

I would max serpentine because the first hit already applied the debuff so the consecutive ones will be also boosted. And you'll want to boost everything.
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>>161499159
>gaybulge 5

reroll
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I don't think I can be bothered to keep playing this game until next week to see if Agni is added or not, let alone until the end of December.

The more I read about what the GMs said last night the more I realise, IMC don't care about the game anymore and the entire meet up was to keep us complacent. The GMs didn't answer any real questions, they gave a bunch of non-answers and maybes.

We're months behind Korea and the GMs admitted IMC is keeping us behind on purpose for imaginary reasons.

I can't keep playing when this is IMCs attitude towards the game.
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>>161501653
Why does no one play Sorc C3?
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>>161501803
c u in ~24h
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>>161501653
I like the new wave of Sorcerer fanart that isn't full-on lewd with oppai. Cute makes everything best.

>>161502023
It's easily one of the worst circles in the game.
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>>161502023
is shit

>>161502146
>Cute makes everything best.
oh yes, that pic is so great
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>>161502315
>>161502146
>one of the worst circles in the game
>when Corsair3 Rogue3 and Wugu3 exist
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>>161502562
Which means that Sorc3 is one of the worst circles among those you said.
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>>161502649
Is there anything else that belongs in the shitpile with Sorc3 Wugu3 Rogue3 and Corsair3?
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>>161502562
>>161502649
Rogue3 and Corsair3 are pretty good compared to some other circles. Falconer2, QS2, Sword2, Cata2, etc. Some circles just aren't rewarding enough but they're worth it for the next circle.
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>>161503251
retard if we're talking about c3s then compare them to only other c3s
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>>161503390
I had previously said "worst circles in the game" not worst C3s in there game.
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>>161503251


>sword 2 is bad

lol, no. there's a lot of builds that fit sword 2 nicely. restrain 8 pain 10 is more than enough when you're giving up sword 3 for pelt (guardian, swash) or barb c1 (cleave) or corsair c1 or to fix rodelero 2 somehow
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Red, green or blue gems on shields?
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did they broke game's chat?

>>161503975

very high dex = red
dex/con = green (didel tower shield 2x green gems to fix that shit critical rate of you)
full con physical dps: red
full con magic = blue
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>>161504372
That's what I thought. Thank you, fampai. Too bad I'm gonna need two shields, since I play a full DEX swordie and a full CON mage. ;_;
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4th box obtained. Now I wait forever. Now I need to start a new alt again. Thinking of a Squire. That or quit this shit game like everyone else is doing.
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>>161505325

How the fuck do you even stomach playing this shit so much?
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Okay convince me not to stay full spr as a non Kino/Sorc/FF mage. Weapons have always given more power than int could, enchanters give more con than I had as a high int and mdef is as high as it would be using enchanters mdef option, and the other stats are useless.
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>43 posters
Tell me /tosg/, how are you even remotely relevant anymore?
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>>161505809
i bvang youre mom
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>>161505809
hey you shut your whore mouth this is the only place I get to badmouth people anonymously in their face like a coward and shit on people who ask questions or post info

oh and of course guild drama over who is the best guild on klaipedo
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>>161505809
im relevant to ur dad bcuz i cuck'd him
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so what guild should i join?
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>>161507802
fuck off we are full
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>>161507802
Futureproof is the right answer, always.
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>>161507802
the one with your crush
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>>161477369
with lolipan gone, does this mean I can have a chance to make healmage my waifu?
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>>161507914
but i'm bored
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>>161507802
If you're a weeb join CnL
If you're a normie join Ohayou
If you a massive faggot that loves to shitpot join FP
If you're a literal who and intend to stay that way join cute
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RIP /tosg/

Your shitposting was retarded.
Your meme's were unfunny.
Your virginity apparent.
Your plebbitness out of this world.

No one will miss you, need you or ever want to return.
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>>161507981
t.healmage
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>>161505567
takes me less than a week to R8 but this dragoon was an old char from R7 times so she was sitting at 260 with all quests from Bharna > Maven undone, so it was easy to get her to 316. Grinded like 8 lvls in Maven and then quested to 317 in a day.
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>>161505809
lol

we're gonna make it right guys?
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>>161508104
it was like that all the time
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>>161508582
probably not
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>>161508582
retard
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>>161508104
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>>161505809
>how are you even remotely relevant anymore?
we have never been. so what?
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>>161508104
what episode is that rich evans spit take from?
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>>161505809
That's like 1/10th of Klai's population, excluding bots.
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>>161509637
>Disc
>Hedgeheg
>Siwone
Where did they go? Can we blame lack of them for downfall of /tosg/?
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Loading screen getting stuck at 75% again. Fuck this game.
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>>161507981
Back off?!?!
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>>161511167
Loading ends at 75%. If you get stuck here it means you successfully loaded the map but your client couldn't handshake with the server, so it basically happens when you lag or have a disconnect. It's a network issue.
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>>161511723
How can it be a network issue if it only happens with one character? This happened before already and it fixed itself.
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>>161511174
If you're not in this picture, you're not /tosg/
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>>161512032
Maybe it has to do with the channel you're in, it's happened before. Are you in a map with a single channel? Problems with something graphical on the map you're loading cause you to get stuck 98% usually.
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>>161512350
It's not map or channel specific and it gets stuck at 75%. It is character specific and it randomly works once every 10 tries.
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>>161512057
>/tosg/ is only 13 people
Retard
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>>161512640
just restart the game
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>Queue Time: 75 minutes

WAKE ME UP!!
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>>161512640
Are you wearing any bandanas(the arm ones)? Those caused all sorts of problems in iCBT2, I wouldn't put it past IMC to cause them to break them again. If it still happens, then try to remove all items with visible sprites. If it still happens, swap into another costume. If you still get problems, it could be the hairstyle, or something else entirely.

Test this on a map you're by yourself.
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>>161512831
Are you one of the people trying to get in 115?
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Defend this item, https://tos.neet.tv/items/303101 , /tosg/, please, defend it.
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>>161512831
Holy shit, finally got in.
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>>161512915
>archer type

no one plays archer
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>>161512837
I already tried all of those. I'll just login to open the pract box anyways. Thanks for trying to help by the way.
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>>161512915
It's a decent boost to Min/max attack, though why it has INT is a mystery. Remember the other day we were arguing that some new Swordsman weapons now have -INT and -MATK? Our SPECULAH is that we'll be getting a magical Swordie class soon, and perhaps it'll go hand-in-hand with Corsairs?
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>CnL under maximum damage control and claiming 100% of their members are tosg when actual members are saying otherwise
>its no joke, and i posted proof. they said they werent tosg but wanted to buy one of my hats, so i asked why they arent tosg and they said "not all of CnL is" so i replied "ok well i give discount to tosg only, but say youre not tosg again so i can make fun of plasmagica" and he happily complied for one of my hanaming hats
all of this was already posted and proven, why the fuck are you shitters trying to denounce actual proof, makes you look worse than FP now. cant even man up and admit that you take in normies as long as they erp.
pathetic
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>>161508098

The last one should be

> If you're a trap faggot who likes ERP join cute
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>>161512710
/tosg/ is only 40 people lmfao
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@161513247
No (you)s for spazz
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>>161513247
Play it loud Swaaz, don't let them bring you down.
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>>161513247
no guild is /tosg/ only so why does it matter
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>>161513247
requesting someone to reply to the autist with his own autism pasta
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>>161513247
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times
>beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation
>needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?
fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash
headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.
heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match
>HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?
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>>161514335
i have no interest in being part of a community that are full of people that say such things as
>wow are you retarded? squire's cant set up shops while in dungeons. (and saying this to the squire main who said otherwise)
>wow why arent you rank 1? you think youre good for winning 2vs1 as squire3? ok show me then by being rank 1. youre trash haha
>threejane (who ive had a problem with since before he was even tosg, the kid is legit autistic)
>base camp gives 300% buff duration? haha wow but youre still trash. because i have a skill that does 50k damage. clearly giving 4 party members a 300% buff duration is worse than me pressing a button and doing a skill. you suck lmao
>wow you charge 5k silver more than my free zero profit repairs? LMAO what a fucking loser i bet this kid is rich no wonder why he brags about sometimes winning pvp he prob just beats them to death with all his jewish squire money. my afk necro makes like 10x more money than you AND i beat you in pvp haha you suck :P :P
>wow you told tosg that you saw a druid in CnL crashing channels but never reported them to imc or even namedropped? YOURE FUCKING CANCER GUYS SWAAZ IS SAYING ALL CNL ARE HACKERS LETS HARASS HIM
>"posts in guild chat" - anyone need uphill?
me - ya i do
few others - ya i do
5 mins later - guy who said uphill in inside the dungeon duo'ing it with korasi
>haha wow swaaz you must be a dumbass faggot why u leave ohayou it must be because youre autistic hahaha xxdxdxd :P

id rather join a normie guild but again this game has no CONTENT, just do your dailies and/or grind your alts solo.
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>>161513247
At the rate we are going there won't be any tosg guilds soon.
How many have we lost already?
We are dropping a guild every couple of weeks.
Now lolipan's gone too.
Eventually the suggestion of having one single united tosg guild will become a reality, and then that too will die out as people get bored and move on.
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>>161490109
Cannon2 is pretty shit. Cannon blast is dethrone lite, doing half the damage with a much longer cooldown and no overheat.

Cannonade is quite shit too but at least it's better than cannon shot.

Bazooka is fucking terrible, it needs to do at least 5x more damage to make it worth while and even then its situational.

Gas grenade is alright, good if it works. Problem is is that it doesn't work on bosses or flying things and can also be resisted. It does act as a silence if it works though which is nice.

On the whole, cannon2 is weak in R8. It's really not great for much, can't even say that it's good aoe burst now because of inflated mob hp pools, long CD's and weak damage. Nice with a linker though but everything is nice with a linker.

I'd really recommend staying away from cannon unless you really want to bank on cannon3 being fuck you tier. As of now it's probably one of the weakest "DPS" R8's in the game.
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>>161513336
Isn't ERP CnL's thing? Is cute secretly lewd?
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>still triggered over getting jewed
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>>161515143
The only R8 DPS in this game are Swordsman.
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defend this
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>>161513247
I want a hanaming hat from Swaaz! How much do you sell them for?
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>>161516154

What the fuck us that?
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>>161516154
if by defend you mean impregnate, yes I would defend this.
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>>161515272
desu this entire general is full of bitter cowardly faggots

at least swaaz puts his face out there

t. Fedimian player

goodnight /tosg/ ya bunch of faggots :3
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>>161516448
>>161516154
Dancer class for swordies R9?
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>>161516448
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>>161516525
some mage costume, "pinkwizard".
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>>161516662
If it was for swordies I would have been willing to give it a chance

Looks shit for a wizard
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When?
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>>161517078
I NEED IT
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>>161517078
What is this and why must I have it right fucking now
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>>161516448
I'd wear the fuck outta that
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>>161517575
>>161517801
Your characters are fat and wouldn't look good in it anyways.
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Gook patch notes

>Ice Pike and Gust now take 60 seconds to recover Overheats (was 40s)
>dungeon entry limits nerfed to iToS levels (2+1, was 5+0)
>3 new subweapons - pillow, some spray, folding chair
>all swordies can now use pistols (not sure)
>some new quests

>Long Stride base AoE 0 (from 3)
>Cyclone base AoE 8 (from 3)
>drop buff on Jolly Roger was removed
>Snow Rolling and Ice Tree cooldowns reduced
>Cannon skills got ratios buffed (150 -> 250, 100 -> 150, 300 -> 350)
>Multiple Hit Chance (Kabba2) slight cooldown reduction
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>>161517997

>Buffed Dopple
>Nerfed Corsair

But why?
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>>161516556
retard
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>>161517997
>>drop buff on Jolly Roger was removed
aaaaa
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>>161517997
>removing corsair from the game
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>>161517997
>all swordies can now use pistols (not sure)
What the fuck?
They don't need anymore buff.
Wizards and archers need it more.
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>>161517997
>drop buff on Jolly Roger was removed

I don't understand
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>>161509637
>complain about the general
>use the meme chat

kek, fucking cancer but yes this general will never be missed.
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>>161517997
>Ice Pike and Gust now take 60 seconds to recover Overheats (was 40s)

I don't understand what the hell is with Koreans and overheat times
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>>161513247
CnL is the only guild of this general with nice members, nice guild leader and of course the true and only guild of this general
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>>161517997
Attributes
>Barb - Buffs Feral (that dashing thing from a while ago) duration by 5s
>Corsair - Pistol Shot now causes a tornado which deals some damage
>Corsair - Looting
>Psycho - Psychic Pressure and Gravity Pole cost more SP per second and have longer cooldown, but can't be interrupted by enemies
>Sorc - Riding gives your summon your stats
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>>161517997
>all swordies can now use pistols
>PISTOLS ON FENCER 3

>>161517078
>THIS OUTFIT

WHO HERE IS READY FOR SS OFFICER BUILD?
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>>161517997
>all swordies can use pistols
>drop buff on Jolly Roger removed

Should have just said
>Corsair removed from game, no refunds.
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did they realize wolfknights is a failure yet?
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>>161518298
how is that a fucking buff to swords using 2 handed weapons retard?

all it means is catas can go even faster with manamanas while leveling
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>>161518560
IT ISNT EVEN OUT YET YOU GAIJIN FUCK. GIVE IT A FUCKING CHANCE.
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>>161518536
mfw i have my red armband ready for this, but then i remembered that this is going to be gatcha only for a few weeks
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>>161518841
why do you use aias instead of didel
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>>161518948
>story why i (swaaz ofc) have a bigger dick then you
that is why, shitter
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>>161518237
saying this doesn't even mean anything anymore you're replying to random shit with it now
it's like if someone keeps swearing over and over again it loses its meaning

I cringe everytime I see this shit. seriously you all look like faggots when you waste your captchas posting this
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>>161516385
the only one who loves to shit swaaz and make shitty dramas for nothing is this retard.
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>>161516385
bitter at what
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>>161507981
you can't she will be too busy holding my XXL party size pizza with both her hands
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>>161516385
>>161519140
hey you anon who made this post 40 minutes ago and went to bed already let me ask you specific questions now because I'm a retard who doesn't know how time works

fucking hover over the time and 4chan directly tells you how long ago the post was made you fucking retards

retard
retardxD
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>>161517997

sauce on this
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>>161517997
>>161518489
>Snow Rolling and Ice Tree cooldowns reduced
>Psycho - Psychic Pressure and Gravity Pole cost more SP per second and have longer cooldown, but can't be interrupted by enemies
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>>161519301
It's like people forgot about kTOS altogether

https://tos-kr.neet.tv/changes
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>>161519426
so this means you dont need wiz2 at all for cryo or wiz3 so its better to just go cryo c3 right?
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>>161517997
>Cannon skills got ratios buffed (150 -> 250, 100 -> 150, 300 -> 350)
I want to die, I fucking want to die.
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>>161519294
what's your problem, you sound pretty bitter lmao
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>>161519426
>https://tos-kr.neet.tv/changes

>longer cooldown

ruined the class forever


how much should I offer for a stats reset potion? price will go up on some days
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>>161518475
That's where you're wrong anon
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>meet this noob in town
>sword1>high3
>he's testing some skills
>try to give him pointers
>he's gonna go corsair into doppel c3
>he wont listen to me telling him to take cleave
>login dop and try to talk the retard some sense
>he links 2x level 120 and 170 weapons, both +10 and full of lvl 5 gems
>brags how he has 100m in his bank
>check his lounge
>has 0 characters above level 100
>yet has 100m, full TP outfits
>ask him how

>"I bought silver xD"
>mfw this retard will be top 10 pvp one day by just buying all his gear with MMOTANK silver with his shit build
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>>161519782
>longer cooldown
>no skill had its cooldown lengthened
Who are you quoting?
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>>161519921
Read dummy.
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>>161520048
???
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Would the game be fixed if all talt was replaced with blessed shards?
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>>161519905
100m isn't shit
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>>161520118
Killing whales kills the game, so no
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>>161520118
I'd be fucking loaded. As loaded as your mom with semen.

How would we upgrade guild towers though?
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>>161520381
gacha
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>>161518298
sooo... wizards with pistols?
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>>161520381
with blessed shards too

it'll be called guild transcendance instead of upgrades now :^)
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>>161516385
wait why was this posted? almost everybody here isnt against bullying alsheyra (which is what that screenshot was about)
like theres a ton of content that you could shitpost about me, but you choose yesterdays post in which i simply said one sentence to alsheyra.
which included the word "tryhard" and the kid legit got triggered beyond any feminist and sent me paragraphs
and then proceeded to complain in public chat fedich1 because nobody would give him the attention he wanted and/or the support he was trying to get from someone for them to say he isnt a tryhard
i even said it was a joke BEFORE he even replied, and the kid is legit still triggered about it.
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>>161516260
tosg discount comes to 500k or 2 blessed shards. once i have less than 20-ish left ill probably triple the price but for now im just having fun with it
you can blame barry for the price
:^)
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>>161520626
>yet more reason to use rods
No.
Give wizards muskets.
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>>161515143
Also cannon skills cost a stupid amount of sp for minimal damage too
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>>161518948
not sure why youre replying to obvious bait, but i have a hardon for aias. and im waiting for orange 315
i have an autistic reason for aias but lets just go with "waiting for orange 315"
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>>161520381
Farm gold bars
Give them to guild alchemists
????
Delicious talt
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>>161517997
BUFFING
FUCKING DOPPEL

Kim's son plays Doppel there is no other explanation for such bias.
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>>161520118

No. But I feel Talt was suppose to be some kind of currency, it was just forgotten about like all the half baked ideas IMC has.
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>>161521474
>farming gold bars
>farming something that can be made by alchemists
>has no idea wtf hes talking about
10X talt --> 1 gold bar
retard
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>>161521561
>buffing the whale class

Duh, they have to keep them playing and happy.
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>>161519636
Why? They'll end up buffing us more, we're shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvlWdSLZ7ac

>cleric 1 diev 3 krivis 3 cleric 1 at ET 40f

told you retards that krivis 3 diev 3 was a thing

>muh taioist
>muh druid
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>>161517997

It's not like we'll be getting any of these changes for fucking months.

Just remember, IMC are purposely holding back patches by months because they want to make sure the game is "stable" first. And then they release nothing, not even bug fixes in those months the patch is delayed.
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>>161521578
Talt is just guild currency and a booby prize that isn't completely valueless. (like cards used to be)
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>>161522070

Still feels like it was suppose to have more uses but IMC just gave up on the idea.
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>>161522160
You're just used to people using it as unofficial currency due to it being one of the few tradeable things of value in the past. Dumping it in a guild, selling it for 5k, and using it as 100 point gem fodder is already a lot of uses.
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>>161519224

like the whore she is
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>>161521410
>waiting for orange 315

Good luck farming the mats
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>>161522371
If only you could feed them to cards too
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>>161519905
I hope you screen shot that and send it to support, they will actually ban people believe it or not
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>>161522523
do you even know who youre talking to?
152 collections completed
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Letting all Swordsman classes wear pistols....I am not sure what to think of this. They removed the looting from Corsair but gave it back to them as an attribute, which I suppose is fair, but now you have even less reasons to go Corsair3 since we can all wear Pistols. That Tornado attribute better be fucking godly to make Corsair worth it.

Why would they nerf Gust while buffing Snow Rolling and Ice Tree? It should've been the opposite.

Anything else?
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>>161522832
>not banking 5mil silver
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>>161522951
this picture is like a month old, when im in town i withdraw all my cash money because i spend 50% of my time in this shitty game flipping items in market
also im 77k hp unbuffed, so its not like i ever die in rank8 maps
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>>161522940
I'm sorry, I told IMC they needed to nerf Corsair because Iron Hook is annoying in TBL.
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>>161522371
>Dumping it in a guild,
Yeahaah fuck you man.
Do you know what despair is? It's dumping hundreds of thousands of talt into a tower over the course of half a year to unlock a 5 hour raid that gives a +20 magic attack buff.

TWICE.
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>>161523403
Is that what the academy does? Well it is an unrestricted guild-wide buff but I suppose it could be better. If you want to pick at something, complain about the 4 minute timed boss fight with 260m HP.
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>Complain about wanting the same dungeon entries as koreans
>Once again koreans get nerfed to itos standards

On the other hand, folding chairs were introduced so you know what that means.
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>>161522832

>virtov gloves/boots

look at him
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>>161522951
>implying God Emperor Swaaz the First can die and lose currency
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>>161523670
If the chair doesn't count as a shield you can't Targe Smash or Scuttum Hit with it, making it pointless.
>>
they fucked up

they should give pistol to corsair c1, remove open chest, fix DWA, give an attribute to it, buff pistol shot, third charge for hexen at corsair c3, larger hitbox for dust devil

c3 corsair keel hauling + iron hook chain

anyway, going to buy my manamana now
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>>161524192
just let corsair die, they'll never fix it and it'll stay in the trash along with rogue
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>>161523962
nigga i had plate + cloth sets completed before they were even tradable
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>>161524192
>Not having a manamana for the past 5 months

Uhmmm
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>>161521698
I don't think anyone doubted it, it's just not a fun thing to level or play since you're using only r5 skills and you exist solely to maximize the effiiency of one of them.
>>
bunch of bitches in here
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>>161525267

ayyy boi what
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>>161521698
I'm dumb, wheres the kirvisdiev in that video?
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>>161525267
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>FutureProof is Recruiting
I'm not pizzacoating anything in this post. I'm the leader of FutureProof now. I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing as co-lead which is dragging us kicking and screaming if I have to into becoming the very best TOSG has to offer. My personal goals are very clear: Open World PvP and Arena Battle.

I've personally revived Open World PvP for the Klaipeda server and intend to continue running monthly wars. If you want to join, your hamsters and towers will be safe, and I've put in place strict measures to make sure that everyone has fun and no one is treated unfairly. This includes spawn camping, and bee farm neutrality. If you want to participate in the wars, being a part of FutureProof is a fantastic option. Regardless of if you're in FutureProof or not, I run a public discord for setting up wars that all of TOSG is welcome to.
>Discord
https://discord.gg/BZ5NnSs
>War Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfe78FtIJ4I&t=1s

As soon as I took over we went back to having a waiting list. Our GBL roster is lacking. In order to correct this, anyone meeting the desired classes will be moved to the front of the waiting list, but exceptions can be made. We want Catagoons, we want Oracles, and we want other nukers.

I'll say now that I'm not Lolipan. I'm not level capped. I'm not a neet. What I am is someone who works eight hours a day, then spends three hours commuting, and will spend every spare ounce of free time I have left making sure you feel welcome in our guild, and like you're one of our best friends regardless of if you want GBL, boss farming, or to sit in town and chat.

TOSG is welcome in FutureProof, and we're recruiting.

PM Cats
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>>161525575
shut up retard
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>>161525750
leave cats alone he's a cool guy i like him

gl fp
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>>161525575
No matter your GBL roster you will lose
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>>161525575
Bro the second you become a meme like lolipan and people start shitposting you're just gonna jump ship. Just stop. If you're really a leader you would of done it months ago. You cant take criticism like lolipan can.
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>>161524320

sell it before people wake up
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>>161525962
i did not do this for the price
im not some faggot ass afk necro who only takes pleasure in 100% attributes and BIS gears
i just like to fuck around and inflate my ego for achievements in which i cant prove
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>>161525575
Fight on Gato. Don't listen to the thread, make my guild great again.
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>>161525575
If this isn't shitposting, I wish all the luck to you Cats. I don't really care about memepan, but every time I talked to you in game you were very nice to talk with.

Good luck leading the guild, it will be rought seeing how much of the name of the guild turned into a meme.
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why is nobody talking about the rank reset scroll
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>>161526261
You mean this?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/class-rank-reset-confirmed/338551

I figure we'd know about it already if it was in the patch notes. And if it's real then I am glad I quit already, this was the last box in my "I'll quit if this happens" checklist.
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>>161526261

LINK
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>>161526261
what
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>>161526261
Because there's no such thing
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>>161526516

whats the problem of a rank reset scroll
when the reroll is boring as fuck and the scorll will probbably eat up all your attributes oyu invested on your r1r2r3r4rr6 classes
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>>161526516
How many ranks is it? All of them or just one?
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>>161526516
literally uninstalling now
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>>161526601
>>161526637
>>161526542
>>161526665


https://tos-kr.neet.tv/items/640280

I think its real.....dudes...
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>>161526516
>>161526746

fuck this shit, FUCK EVERYTHING FUCK THIS SHIT GAME KOREAN CASHGRAB REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

rip
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>>161526746
>>161526601
>>161526519
>>161526516
>>161526261
>>161526825
https://tos.neet.tv/items?q=Rank
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>>161526601
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/5fu6x2/ktos_rank_reset_confirmed_in_december/
but there's even a leddit post about it
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how does ilak have 180k hp self buffed in TBL?
full con + max level ein sof is around 90-100k MAX
i have video footage of him self buffed with 180k hp, makes you wonder why hes always top 10 TBL
somebody please explain this before i start shitposting in official forums
cancer clerics are one thing, but 180k hp cancer clerics? ive checked the footage. he has no buffs besides ein sof
im full con myself, and ive toyed with ein sof many times. this isnt supposed to be possible.
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Orsha is a best
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>>161526746
>>161526516
>Card that levels you up to a certain class level
>Is a class reset scroll
retards.
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>>161526927
Maybe he has that Sp restore attribute of ein sof turned off and transcended armor?

We need more percent damage skills for pvp though, full con is such AIDS.
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>>161526927
ein sof 10 is +200% hp
i think you're used to ein sof 5 from kabba 1's
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>>161527101
this is probably right, sorry for being retarded
holy fuck i love clerics now
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>>161526261
>>161526519

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpCcCyn8QLA
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>>161527009
these are probably part of the "Class reset package/mechanic"
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>went from rank 150 to rank 5 in 2 matches in 5v5
uhm.........
ded gam?
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>>161527271
Whatever it is, the idiots posting about it should be ignored until it's translated and here. It'll be like everything else they overhype for replies. Like when the instance clear vouchers and zemyna necklace showed up and they declared they were exclusive p2w cash shop items.

Even >>161526920 implies it's a one time event or something.
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>>161527470
Who the fuck is even playing pvp half the time your queue bugs out and you get trapped in loading limbo.
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>>161527470
Come back to 5v5 Swaaz, we miss you.
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>>161527727
what you mean? ive been doing both now for the past 2 maybe 3 weeks
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>rank 5 - 5v5
>rank 2 - 2v2
matches played - less than 10 combined
i think its time for orsha to merg...... or wait...
dead game confirmed
555222 illuminati confirmed
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>>161525575
>Discord
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>>161529438
>not being top 25 in TBL
>expecting cats to pay attention to you
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What's the max number kabbalists can roll with their number skills?
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>>161487317
Fucking hell, I've been opening kalejimas cubes everyday for months by now and I haven't got any of the two freaking bracelets.

Also, anyone knows where to get those Swift Oghma Guantlets? Seen them on the market just one time.
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>Japan TOS is now ahead of iTOS in term of update and content
>We still don't even have actual update for months
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>>161530554
>Japan TOS is now ahead of iTOS in term of update and content
prove it
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>>161530554
pls no
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>Mizuki will never invite you to "study" with her

Why even live?
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>>161530629

Both ran by Nexon so it makes sense.

It also proves IMC have some kind of deal with Nexon that is preventing us from getting content sooner.
Which proves the GM meet up was basically bullshit and you can't trust anything that was said there.
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>>161530746
who?
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>>161530629
Pic related

>>161530716
Just accept the fact that we will always be unwanted kids.
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>>161530793
I think the thing about IMC having a timed exclusivity deal with Nexon is a really plausible idea, it's just a matter of us finding out how long this period is.

>mfw we're all second class customers to IMC
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>>161530746
I want spies to leave
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>>161530746
Wanna study with me, anon?
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>>161530948

They're obviously going to deny it, but at this point it's pretty fucking obviously true. No reason to delay content this long for shitty "stability" reasons when Japan is getting content sooner than us.

And it's 2-3 months if we're judging by when we got rank 8 compared to when Korea got it.
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>>161531073

Who the HELL are you?
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>>161531073
I'll give you something to study about
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>>161531094

and dont forget almost all the quest broken on R8 Release patch LOL
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CnL faggots in voice chart erping
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>>161532130
ERPing is literally CnL's specialty. What did you expect?
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>>161531094
Or instead nexon could simply have a localization team helping with their own versions.
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>>161532130

Nothing wrong with girls getting drunk on a Wednesday vocally shitposting and planning our our upcoming IRL con meetup
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Why does backstab caps at 99k?
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>>161532559
because shit game
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>>161530746
>her
Mizu is a BR boy

t.an older spy than you
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>>161532945
Mizu is not a boy! She's Murbi sister!
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>>161533220
mizu is a dude, calm down
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>>161533220
CnL faggots in major damage control
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>>161533267
No, she's not a dude! all CnL members are girls!
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Stop trying to shit the thread up, nobody here cares what those nerds do.
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>>161533526

Not all
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>>161532559
Man, I really want a rogue2x but everything leading up to it and the class itself is meh
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>>161533326
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>>161507802
CoffeHouse
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>>161518489
>Be Cryokino

Dick Status: Muh
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>>161533569

I wasn't planning on making one till someone told me back stab was fixed, been having a lot of fun with it now.
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>>161522940
Fucking with overheat is more like IMC being IMC rather than a nerf.

That said, when you compare Frost Pillar to Magnetic Force (both first available at rank 4), you'll see Full Cryos were REALLY getting fucked over.
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>STAFF_Max

>Good news regarding Agni, 315 Orange Weapon, Improved EXP on Dungeon will be informed via announcements. As for the Rank-Reset P which is under test, then If there is any of info of Rank-Reset P, will be released on announcements too. Please wait for it and thank you so much for your cooperation saviors :slight_smile:
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yo, /tosg/. Should i use Red Gem or Yellow gem in my SR C1 Mana-Mana? Just for the Retreat shot.
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>>161535498
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>>161535498
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>>161535991

Im gonna start selling my organs, don't worry
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>>161534530

not sure anon, that post mentions that the cd will increase. if PP/GP goes up to 50 second, kino is killed
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>>161535583

new meta claims that everyone should roll very high dex to achiev a great critical rate to get the best benefits from gems, and red gem on offhand is fucking great. it gives pure physical attack, it helps literally everything.

green could be a option if you want to use it on a character that depends on critical rate coming from gear. archers critical rate is so easy to achiev that with sissels and shit I think that you're safe to roll red
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>>161535498
Not even trying.

Agni and Orange weapons will never come, unless they come from gacha.
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>>161538278

They know that they cant do shit, why even bother
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>put more than 2800 hours into the game
>Realize a long time ago that the game was garbage and didn't deserved my time, but continued to play it anyway due to friends and habit
>Decide to stop entering in the game for a while
>1 month goes
>Decide to log in
>Realize that there's literally nothing fun to do, even after 1 month without loging in
>I can't go pvp because it's timed
>Only thing to do is saalus, uphill and rush
>log out in less than 10 minutes
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>>161538842
There is stuff to do the problem is the stuff there is to do people don't want to do because it's inefficient to the gear treadmill or not really worth it unless you're a completionist. Even worse, if it's inefficient AND group content you outright cannot do it; best example I can think of is Marnox world boss. He has a weapon that can enable funny gimmick builds, but since he has no card and nothing best in slot those builds are completely locked off to you because you can't solo him. Same thing with Blut, Nueale, Zaura, and going beyond that things like collections or just dicking around with Kabbalist's clone skill. You can't even get groups to grind in areas besides alameth/storage/abbey since it's not efficient either.
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>>161538842
No, there's stuff to do, it just all sucks.
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>rank reset potion

NOW THIS IS P2W
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>>161521698
>cleric 1 diev 3 krivis 3 cleric 1 at ET 40f
>literally uses Revive the first seconds into the video
Retard.
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>>161533569
Best Rogue2 build desu
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141899gg
Feint + Barrage is amazing early and still doesn't fall off hard until well into r7.
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>>161541268
Just plan your build :^)
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>>161541268
Still less p2w than tokem
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>>161541268
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How do you get the 315 red recipes when they're implemented
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>>161541979
You get 5 purple dicks and shove them in a paper box and out poops a red tit
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Thanks for the fun times tosg! It was really nice to play with you during the beta and afterwards in our small dead european village.

does honeybingo still play? I need him to mspaint this up.
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>We will be sure to remind the player to avoid using any third party program


Oh yes GM i totally avoid using bots cuz you just said me to dont do it!!!
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>>161529838
9
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>>161543065
Goodbye Clarin, I wish we met in a better game.
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>>161543639
I'm bakarine, maybe it's for the best that no one will remember me
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Where do I find glossy leather?
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>>161543716
I thought you were going to keep playing casually
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>>161543809
depends on how bad saule wants, I won't uninstall I guess
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>>161543065
HoneyBingo is once again MIA but he tends to come and go all the time so don't lose hope yet.
I believe there's also a drawfag in CNL but I forgot their name and don't even know if they still play.
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A fitting end to tosg is coming.
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>>161546063
Not yet.
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I'm so glad this game is alive and well
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>>161547647
Stop bumping this thread.
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did anyone else see the bug fixes for ktos

Delfensner
Cyclone
Attack speed and basic attack adds hit

will this kill doppels?
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IMC needs to stop messing around and add some real defense armors. Anti fire armors with 300 fire def or something. Just because. I want to gear up for certain areas.
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You cannot open the Uphill box multiple times any more. FUCK THIS SHIT!
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>>161550059
What did you mean by this?
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>>161550059
I don't ever remember you can ever do that before
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>find golden bagworm
>not gentlemans dignity

fuck, i wanted to tip one so badly
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>>161549615

Itemisation in the game is trash.

At the very minimum they need to add...
Elemental weapons (not just +x elemental damage, but it converts your attacks entirely to an element)
Elemental Armor
Weapons with bonuses vs specific enemy types (such as 20% bonus damage to demons).
Armor with bonuses vs specific enemy types (such as 20% less damage from demons)

This is the absolute minimum the game needs.
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>>161550973
>Weapons with bonuses vs specific enemy types (such as 20% bonus damage to demons).
They have stuff like that, it's just not %s.
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>>161551062

Which is why it's useless. No one wants a weapon that deals 50 extra damage to demons when you can just have a weapon with an extra 100+ attack anyway.

The game needs a lot more gear that acts as viable alternatives, even if it is situational. Having a weapon that is the absolute best in every situation just makes all the other gear pointless.
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>>161551148
Honestly, I'd want the 100+ extra attack over another 20% added to something at the end. The 100 attack would hit all the multipliers instead of making some 50% multiplier into 70%.
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>>161551253

Unless IMC actually fixed the damage formula in the game and that 20% attack was equal to 20% more actual physical/magical attack before other modifiers.

Itemization is a problem in the game, but I suspect a part of the reason why is the stat system is also shit.
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>>161550671
>>161550793
Very good parties with Haste can get 4 sometimes. Usually you can get three if you have a bit of practice but two per box is acceptable by noob parties. Getting one per box is absolute haram.
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>>161551338
>fixed
You mean buffed.

The stat system is shit because barely anything actually uses stats. Examples:
-Dex affecting damage with bows, str affecting damage with swords, and then the damage of those things affecting the skills.
Instead stats just influence the damage of attacks themselves and it doesn't matter if you have a weapon. The result is weapons get huge base damage to compensate for not being some function of your stats.

-Skills themselves being affected by stats
Instead few skills are. Fireballs for example, if they did 1.4 times matk, at level 10, would do 14 times your base damage, which is basically a level 14 fireball. At 15, they would do 21x your matk, way better than your (matk + ~300) x 15, assuming you had decent matk.

-Primary stats having any sort of major impact on secondary stats
I like items having a large impact over pure stats and levels, but they do basically nothing to help you to the point gems and heavily upgrading the items are expected to compensate. Dex is like the exception and that's why people think it's so strong.

This game might actually be better without stats at all and just crafting gear to help you in certain situations.
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>>161551768

Stats are shit by design. Con and Dex are the only good stats because they're the only ones that do anything significant.
Con is good because more Hp will never be a bad thing.
Dex is good because it does too much and is the only stat that increases your damage by a percentage. At high dex values, you get 50% more damage due to crits, while you can dump all your points into Str and at high levels it might translate into 10% more overall damage.

Dex needs to be split into two stats, an offensive one that increases accuracy and crit rate, and a defensive one that increases evasion and crit res or something.
Then every other stat needs to be on par with Dex and have some kind of percentage effect on the secondary stats they effect.

Another part of the problem is the game suffers from bloated numbers. You start off dealing 10 damage a hit, by max level if you're dealing less than 100k damage a hit you're considered weak. This makes any sort of math hard to get right and IMC have proven themselves time and time again to be pretty bad at math.

Honestly, the entire stat system needs remaking, it's one of the worst designed parts of the game and one of the worst stat systems I've seen in a game.
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>>161552130

ROs math was amazing.

Str gave damage equal to Str + (Str/10) ^ 2.
If this was in ToS, it'd mean at 100 Str you'd have 200 damage, at 200 Str you'd have 600 damage, at 300 Str 1200 damage and at 400 str you'd have 2000 damage.

This is the sort of thing stats need. The more invested into them, the better they get. And not the retarded method we have now where rank increases str/int because 80% of nothing is still nothing.
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I think Int's effects are actually noticeable in PvE due to the multihit nature of their spells; due to attributes and rank bonus each invested point in Int is equal to up to +3.6 damage per hit per point per spell, which can add up. Problem with Str is enemies never block and swordsman skills have too low of hitcounts to take advantage of the skill. For Spr too few skills make use of it, the magic defense bonus is too small, and enemies never really use CC and when they do dispellers nullify it anyway.

The real problem is transcendence, there is no reason not to just stack as many multipliers as you can and rely on your weapon now. The stat system worked alright when we had the initial 6 ranks, then started to get shaky when r7 came out, and with r8 has gone to shit.
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>>161552459

Numbers have gotten way too bloated. I dread to think what rank 9 or even 10 will be like.
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>>161552228
RO stat scaling only worked because

1. There was a stat cap, you could max two stats and have leftovers at level cap. In TOS you can put literally every point in a single stat.
2. There was an increasing cost to invest in high stats, which made balanced builds viable and in most cases better than focusing only in one or two stats. In TOS the most successful builds are one-stat dumps or worst case "some con and rest in x stat".

TOS has the opportunity to copy that stat system but they decided to come up with something even more generic and just plain worse.
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>>161552889
Blame transcendence.
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>>161550059
>HURR DURR I AM GOING TO QUIT THIS GAME BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIX THINGS
>HURR DURR I AM GOING TO QUIT THIS GAME BECAUSE THEY FIX THINGS
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>>161553757
>they fix things that slightly lessen the grind instead of fixing things that're outright broken

o-ok thanks imc
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>magic missile CD reduced
>bloodletting can kill you now
>guardian saint buffed again
>zombies buffed again
>conversion AI improved
>no more 100% quickcast uptime

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>161546063
wow dvine, you still this salty and butthurt after all these time
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>>161553127
Transcendance is okay. Blame the upgrade system. They should remove it and replace it with the transcendance one.
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So now that Doppels are kill from the attack speed nerf from DoV affecting Cyclone, whats they next class the be gutted?
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>>161555542
Dievderbys for the love of fuck they are required for all high end content fucking stupid.
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>>161551768
Not buffed, fixed.

Right now you only need utility stats that is CON and DEX, everything else is useless. INT can be traded for a well upgraded Rod, which leads to everybody going full CON on PVP, because BASE DAMAGE exists.

Base damage is the true demise of this system, skills damage shouldn't be locked on atk+base dmg, that is insanely retarded when you have skills with 10k base damage or 6kx5, you'll NEVER get enough attack to even compare to the base damage of these skills.

Which makes the actual state, where when you get a R7/R8 they do damage, but they'll never do more damage than they already do unless some retarded setup with % damage buffs that stack. Which is pretty much the reason that Wizards are shit, because Swordsman can boost their own damage by 1000% without any outside help.

They should just remove fucking base damage, and multihit based skills adding your patk/matk on each hit, and do a proper scaling system.
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>>161554935

>Buff clerics
>Nerf wizards

Is this from the latest kTOS patch? Because if so I have no fucking idea what IMC are doing anymore.
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>>161555693
This is more a flaw on everything one shotting you later on than Dievs being actually OP.
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>>161555762

They should have done this from the start, but it wont happen now because it'd fuck up the entire "balance" of the game and they'd need to go over all content in the game and adjust it.
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>>161555762
That has nothing to do with the damage formula and where it ads percentage modifiers. Wanting a new multiplier that multiplies stats once again over being added to existing multipliers is a buff, not a fix.
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>>161555937

No. What he is saying is abilities shouldn't be something like 500 base damage + your attack stat. They should just be 500% of your attack stat.
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>>161555937
>That has nothing to do with the damage formula and where it ads percentage modifiers
Of course it does.

I'm not saying to make everything stronger, I'm saying to make things scale, which is not exactly a buff.
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TRANSLATE THE PATCH NOTES ALREADY SUNWHAPARK
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>>161556691
You can already see all the changes at https://tos-kr.neet.tv/changes
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>>161555889
Just upgrade your armor. :^)
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>>161556952
Comes back to the same issue as the stats system doesn't it; transcending a single weapon multiple stages>>>Transcending multiple pieces of armor.
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>>161554957
thank you for the (You), but I'm EU and therefore have no idea who that is.
I only said it because the general was ded and at (the very beginning of) page 10
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>Castle Dungeon - The 20% reduction of the amount of silver drops bosses.
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>>161557359
UHHHHHHMMMMMMMM
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>>161557543
http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=563
>보스 몬스터의 실버 드랍량이 20% 감소합니다.

I'm not sure if that even nerfs it or completely ruins it.
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>>161521698
>every fucking ET high gains group
>every fucking one
>Has a DOPPELSOELDNER
>NO ARCHERS
>NO ARCHERS
>NO ARCHERS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HOW DOES IT FEEL FEELLOW EARLY ACCESS NIGGERFAGGOTS WHO LAUGHED AT SWORD?!

HAVE YOU PRAYED TO YOUR DOPPEL OVERLORDS TODAY!?

>Archer
>FUCKING NEVER EVER
>MUH MUSKETS
>MUH CUNNUNS
>MUH WUGUPOISONS
>MUH FALCON MEMES
>MUH HUNTARDS PEEVUPEE
>MUH DIDEL GRANDS
>MUH SWISSCHEESE REITERS

ALL GARBAGE INFRONT OF THE DOPPEL OVERLORD
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>>161558038
? No one has ever laughed at swords?

Archers were trash in iCBT1/2, and there's a reason they're called BRbarians. Archers had a single build (Fletcher C3) that has been good throughout the game's life cycle.
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>>161558038
>He didn't play Tree of Swordsmen in beta.
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>>161558038
retard
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>>161557806

>A sound will now alert you when a queue you're in pops

How did it take them this long to add such a basic feature?
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>>161558690
But it already makes a click and snap noise. Also the music changes. What else would thy add? A siren for total tards?
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>>161558038
>farm solmiki
>still can't get in the top 20 ladder against undergeared clerics and kinos
PvE classes are fun, but what do you do when you're fully geared and you're still worthless? Reroll?
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>>161558038
Are you aware doppel got nerfed really hard?
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>>161543065
>>161543639
Anta no! You're leaving me behind with all these anonymous bullies! ;_;

Come back!
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>>161555762
If all R8 skills had horrible base damage everyone would complain.

The thing is R8 skills are aimed at the R8 PvE content which has mobs with 500,000 health.

Of course when you bring those skills into a PvP arena where people have 20k and 30k health you have serious problems.

Couple that with the fact that shit skills like Ausrine and Sevenfold exist.
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>>161559983
>If all R8 skills had horrible base damage everyone would complain.
Low base damage doesn't mean weak skills, not even close to that.

Make skills scale direct from status for EXAMPLE: each 5 str you get 1% more damage on all your physical skills.

In order to make this balanced on pvp make the same for con and spr for defense purposes. So no more retarded clerics with 400 con killing people.
If you want to do damage you'll HAVE to invest on doing so, on both pvp and on pve.

That way transcended weapons would still be really fucking good, and status would have an impact.
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>>161559021
anta keeps saying he works too hard and hasnt got time to play, not that he wants to quit
I think out of all the coffee regulars he wants to quit the least, maybe outside of walrus.
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>>161560301
Or just give skills a different damage value in PvP.
Example
250% + 5500 in PvE ; 50% + 500 in PvP
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Moving to the jap servers, have fun.
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>>161560704
Tell me where you're from and what's your ping there.
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>>161560317
Vakarine don't quit! I liked you and your hubby!
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>>161555834
more like fresh out of his ass
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>>161560850
br 400
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>>161555834
>Believing /tosg/
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>>161560301
If STR gave 1% more damage to skills attributes would almost instantly be worthless and STR the main stat and the community would cry out for more stat reset potions and IMC would put them only into the item shop and shitty DLC deals on Steam and even more people would quit.

I have 5 characters in R8. Three of them are now heavy DEX. If they rework STR I would need 3x stat reset potions and knowing IMC they would only deliver one via mail and I'd be fucked.

This game is all over the place. The developers and their shop team are like two organisms. One tries to balance the game and the other tries to milk with the balances in mind. It's retarded. It's like one doesn't know what the other is doing most of the time.
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>>161562864
And you should be by following the current meta.
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>>161562864
get fucked metashitter
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>>161552228
Then everyone would just dump everything into one big numbers damage stat. When faggots say a stat system sucks, they mean it involves choices instead of just pumping damage.

>>161556128
Then ungeared players are utterly useless and faggots with transcended practonium weapons are even more overpowered. Base damage is supposed to prevent the "do 1 damage or do 99999 damage" problem, but they messed it up by massively inflating base damage so lower rank base damage no longer does anything.

The core problem is runaway mudflation ruins everything, but developers keep doing runaway mudflation because big numbers are exciting.
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>>161562984
>>161563136
>angry shiteating str boosters
wow so this is the power of autism
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>>161563869
They have always stated that they wanted late game class damage inflation in order to prevent the problem of "oops I took one wrong class so I'm worthless now".

Problem is they forgot to make utility scale as badly as damage so if you took no utility grats you fucked up your build in spite of the safety measures.
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>>161564006
Stop projecting anon
I'm a full con cleric.
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>>161564482
>And you should be by following the current meta.
>get fucked metashitter
>I'm a full con cleric.
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>>161564814
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>>161564482
>shits on someone who has meta build
>has a fucking meta build himself
wtf I love retards now lmao
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ToS needs achievements and steam cards.
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>>161562864
Retard.

They changed STR to be better had nothing to do with you going full DEX, your build will still do the same, minmaxers like you are disgusting.
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>>161565514
Retard.

Retards like you who put in points like retards are the real retards here who do no research at all. Fuck off retard. No one wants to hear from you or how you achieved your shit Koenig-tier build retard.
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Don't talk to me or my retard ever again.
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>>161565995
>real retards here who do no research at all
>research for putting all points either on DEX or INT

HAHAHA
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>>161566295
Retard
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>happily doing CM mission
>get to first totem
>first wave begins
>Disconnected from server: Moving to login screen.
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>>161566808
This shit happens way to often
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>>161566808
Hats are cute, but it is time to stop
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Can you now remove boss cards without penalty? I remember reading something about that or was that just for Sorc/Necro/Wugu fuckers when they die? I hate that you have to spend TP to remove boss cards. Just such shitty design choice.
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>>161567797
>Waah waah I hate spending money except it is free

Equipped cards won't drop on death anymore for card using classes.
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>>161567797
No, and you got it wrong.

You can't lose cards that are equipped on your character, but you can still lose Wugushi, Sorcerer and Necro cards because they're in your inventory.

A recent kTOS patch(NOT ON ITOS YET) made that equipped cards from those sources as well, won't drop the card, so any kind of equipped card won't be dropped if you die, just deposit them before going to 4* maps and you'll be fine.

Also yes, you can remove boss cards without penality if you pay 5TP.
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Why don't people farm 145 anymore? Yes 290 is faster, but you're losing 500k every day. 5 chars is 5 million, but if you do 290 you just barely got over 1m.
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>>161570183
Because that's fucking boring, I'd rather just get the daily bullshit out of the way in a few minutes at a loss of revenue in exchange for getting to do what I actually want to do.

Also with r8 skills doing 240 is even better than 145.
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>>161570183
Because it takes much much longer, dumbass.
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>>161570183
>Yes 290 is faster, but you're losing 500k every day.
It's long, thats it
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>>161570183
>doing the 145 dungeon on 5 characters every day
I'd rather go to work and RTM
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>>161568049
>A recent kTOS patch(NOT ON ITOS YET) made that equipped cards from those sources as well, won't drop the card
READ THE SITE.
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=749
>'Skill-Equipped Monster Cards Lost' Penalty Removed
>This applies to cards equipped on Necronomicon, Grimoire and Poison Pot.
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Does anyone know if Kabbalist's "reduce level" skill stacks with other Kabbalist's/itself? I don't think I've ever seen it used and I'm curious if you can use discerning evil to reduce a world boss to level 1 or anything silly like that.
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>>161570183

nigga pls

the time it takes to do 145 with all my chars, I can do 290 rushes, saalus and I'll have a lot of free time to level up / quest / farm specific shit or justplay a better game until tbl starts

but they fucked up tbl too so whatever

but of course, if I'm in a dire need to buy somthing rare that just apperead in the market, yes, I can work my ass into this dungeon to raise the money, but lol, rarely worth the effort
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Hey I just setup a Squire, Pardoner, Gem Store and Sex Change store on one account. How come you guys keep misinfo that you can't? Why is /tosg/ always trying to lie to people?
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>>161570183
I prefer doing the 145, but I'm too sleepy when I finish playing and get around to it lately. Also there's not much I need to save up for, just dumping money into attributes and wasting hundreds of ks on failed upgrades and opening sockets in equipment.

It'd be less of a waste to throw my money into buying enchants or something it feels like sometimes with this game.
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>>161572587
>Made 4 afk characters
>Probably shits on bee farmers
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>>161572587

>jew class players spreading lies about money

you think this is just a meme? do you really think that alchemists make 0 profit from potions too?
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>>161572587
Prove it, show me all your shops in one screenshot
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>>161572587
This >>161572903
>>
>Went to the GM event
>Realize I forgot to suggest they stop fucking around with existing skills and try adding new ones
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Regarding that swordsman + pistol stuffs


Is this really true? Let's theorycraft about pistols

there are even 2 slot pistols! or mana mana is still the best? that aoe ratio on offhand is just too sexy
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>>161573341
I dont think anything can top an offhand that boosts crit rate, movement speed, aoe ratio, and a huge chunk of elemental damage. Its just too damn good to not use
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>>161573492
How do we fix daggers and other pistols?
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>>161572587
Put them all in one spot and show a screenshot!
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>>161573590
You don't. Pistol skills now properly use the pistol attack instead of main hand, so the other pistols are for classes that actually have pistol skills.
Meme meme is just a meme stat stick for those who don't.
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>>161573903
Are there any skills that use dagger attack, and not just along with main attack? I don't really get what they were going to do with daggers.
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>>161574114
Backstab
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>Pistol Shot


Pistol Shot: Added to the Dothan property.

>dothan

what the fuck kim
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>>161572903
here's the proofs
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>>161574519
Missile?
Would make sense
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>>161574772

it's missile (gun) already

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/10809
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>>161574741
>different team names
Not sure if you're trolling or just retarded.
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>>161575051
what's the problem :^)

didn't think it was this easy to bait you out anon
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>>161575215
>purposely missinfoing people
As if you couldn't get any more cancerous.
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>>161575362
I knew there was only one autist enough to actually go to the channel and do this and I caught you. That's all that matters to me. I've also proven in previous threads using my alchemist and pardoner that it's not possible.

Thanks for letting me see your name. All that I needed. Have a nice day.
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>>161575519
Is this the new dvine?
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I'm looking for a begginer's class that's good for farming to help support future characters.

Would anyone be able to help me out on this? I don't know what the best classes are for farming.
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>>161575765
dvine was an actually good player though.
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>>161575765
>>161575804
Oh no. I wonder which Klaipedia player is behind trashing me today with his Discord friends. The Dvine meme didn't stick. I wonder what they will come up next!
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just report him and move on
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>>161575804
>dvine was an actually good player though.

He literally wasn't though.
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>>161575983
>Slashley
>playing on Klaipeda
>playing at all
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Just don't respond. They are bored that their guild died and the game is dying so they focus their autism energies on bashing anons.
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>>161575051
Show the full screenshot so we see you too coward.
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>>161576354
I'm not the one trying to become a meme
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>>161576462
Why are you hiding yourself then and picking on Celvy?
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This general is reaching /rog/ levels of bad. It truly is dying.
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>>161575780

scout 3

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141888.1a284a5161.15213145.213f466185
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>>161575983
>m-muh discord
It got deleted yesterday, but nice try, dvine.
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>>161577002
no
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>>161576916
80% of the general has no idea why they are even playing, they just log in to do the dailies with the nebulous goal of accumulating more silver and shards without really enjoying it, then shitpost.
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>>161576920
>https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3141888.1a284a5161.15213145.213f466185

Thank you very much kind stranger :)
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>>161575519
>>161575983
>>161576734
This faggot seriously just spent an hour posting misinformation, samefagging, and camping a channel just to try to get the names of random posters to harass them for no reason other than his own mental illness.
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Do NOT bully the resident European autist
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>>161577313
>they just log in to do the dailies with the nebulous goal of accumulating more silver and shards without really enjoying it, then shitpost.
Somewhere, Lolipan is just logging in to do something fucking boring with the nebulous goal of accumulating more ISK and PLEX without really enjoying it, and thinking about coming back here to shitpost.
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>>161577691
One of those is me and I'm not him. I'm just asking why you're acting like this.
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Rude people being rude got caught and are trying to get him b&.
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>>161578780
The difference is that I can actually shoot and kill people there, unlike in here.

If only they hadn't patched guild wars out entirely, maybe this could've been a much different game.
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>>161577313
This. I used a small amount of misinfo to catch my year long shitposter anon-kun and now he's buttravaged and yelling DELETE THIS. I actually got what I wanted and am playing the game with friends. Got an ET run soon while anon-kun sits in town shitposting more and more about me.
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>>161579461
>I can actually shoot and kill people there,
After waiting 5 hours for them to show up.
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>>161579172
You and your multiple personalities are still the same person. I just told you why.
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>>161579535
But there aren't any delete this posts. You seem to have a paranoid delusion about being stalked. Is that one of those "the entire thread is one person" things or is the year long shitposter your alternate self, dvine?
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>>161580564
see >>161576025
>>
i unironically enjoy this game believe it or not.
the only mmo i played before this was Mu Online
maybe that's why?
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>>161581198
Yes that's exactly why.
It's also why subhuman RO poorfags like this game: the haven't tried anything even remotely close to an AAA mmo.
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>>161580564
fuck off dvine
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>>161581247
>AAA mmo.
LMFAO there's never been such a thing. Even "Wow, look at those graphics!" MMOs are made for the lowest common denominator of players.

Also ROfags hate this game. hell, the reason I like it might be because RO makes me hate it a little more every time I attempt to think about it again.
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How many 5F cubes do you need for gloves / boots?

Ignoring earth shards.
Including rerolling every cube.
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>>161581560
Because you only played korean f2p garbage. Must be too young to even have played WoW at least, the most entry-level, non-gook mmo.
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>>161581785
40 boss shards, you can reroll to always get 3 shards.
However the problem will be earth shards now, since they drop way less now on the low floors, 1 each boss kill on 5f and 2 on 10f.
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>>161581247
>spot the post-WoW MMO kiddie
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>>161582042
Not really. If "AAA mmo" means "WoW" to you, the you are then actually kiddie here.
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>post accurate information with screenshots
>get called misinfo faggot
>spend an hour countering false info
>misinfo agents always waiting to get the last misinfo reply in

>post blatant misinfo
>/tosg/ in hordes ready to correct your errors
>actual good info is posted through a ruse
>everyone benefits
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>>161581871
I knew living long enough to watch kids become nostalgic for WoW and Halo would be bad, but it's also pretty hilariously sad.
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>>161582114
wow, that really makes you think no?
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>>161582319
see >>161582113
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>>161582113
>If "AAA mmo" means "WoW" to you
Nice assumption to divert the actual message of my post: anyone who wasn't a literal baby or primary school kid when RO came out would have never made your shitpost. Suck that thumb!
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>>161582114
>>post blatant misinfo
>>everyone fucking believes you instantly
>>actual good info is completely ignored
>>weeks later, shitposters who don't play the game still repeating your misinfo like it's fact
fixed
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I'm really lost with Cleric build possibilities.

>Cleric C2> Priest C3> Chap c1> PD C2
Is this a good PvE build? What about its damage?

>Cleric C2>Krivis C3>Druid C2
What's better for damage: Druid C3 or Taoist?

I'm open to suggestions.
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>>161582540
See? Your only experience with MMOs is RO.

You've only played korean cash crabs, your opinion is worthless.
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>>161582647
This happens? I'm trying to think about an incident but nothing comes to mind.
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>>161582791
I've lived MMO's and RO is also in my long life. I was a teenager back when that came out. I was 14. Now I'm 30.

RO had a unique charm because of the time it came out in. It doesn't hold up today because WoW changed how MMO's are made.

TOS just like every other MMO is being shaped around WoW. However RO came before WoW and because of this it was a unique piece of experience.

Old RO players praise it not only because of nostalgia, but because of how it worked as a game and functioned as an MMO. The game was huge as fuck, servers back in the day having 20,000 players on constantly (iRO) and a monthly subscription with no item shop.

I repeat. No item shop at all. Only what players could plunder with their own hands. Botting happened but was countered aggressively. GM's would roam maps and ban people, even if they had months of subscription on their names.

Guilds were massive 200 player machines. Small groups everywhere. Farm and grind groups alike. This is old RO.

A guild in classic RO had more players than your entire server has. And RO had no instanced content in the past.

Then came Renewal that fucked everything over and most of the faggots here claiming to be some kind of RO specialists are players of that expansion. They have no real experience of the old and most likely played and botted on private servers with increased rates and PayPal "donation" shops.
>>
>not playing the mobile version
what is wrong with you
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>>161583161
Every single time there's an update in Korean.

The people who don't understand the images of numbers on the Japan server is a login queue count.
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>>161575519
>>161575215
>>161575051
>>161574741
>>161577691
Fedi niggers and missinfos need to be beheaded.
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>>161583746
>playing ..mobile
i know these games

>press autoplay, wait, ok, next, press autoplay, wait, ok, next, press autoplay, wait, ok, next,
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>>161582791
>See? Your only experience with MMOs is RO.
Another baseless assumption by a shitposter. How old are you?
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>>161583793
>>161583907

To be honest no one should believe anything posted on /tosg/ anymore, especially now that Lolipan is gone.
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>>161584358
purposely posting missinfo to fuck with one fag cause you dont like his dick and missinfoing many ppl is very rude.
cant wait till the mudslimes get this bastard
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>>161582758
Honestly Chap is kind of bad. For raw single target damage Krivis 3 Druid 2 Taoist is probably the best, but apparently the owl statues snapshot your damage so Druid 3 Diev 3 cleric 2 is also a very solid and strong build. PD 2 also does a load of damage via incineration but I'm not sure what the most common builds for that are.
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>>161584653
who are you quoting retard?
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>>161585135
nice shitpost my europoor gayman
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>>161585374
says the faggot who spouts nothing but buzzwords and thinks the entire board is one person
>>
>nerfing the only legit way of making money and funding attributes
meanwhile
>nerfing classes that were already weak
>buffing classes that were already strong
>game still without any content for pve
>game still a shit of balance on pvp
>no scaling and 80% of the classes are absolutely useless and shit

I guess I should just back to FFXIV, its bad but they don't fuck up this much.
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>>161585135
>who are you quoting
>retard
niceme.me
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>>161584265
Old enough to have played mmos before RO was out.
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>>161585563
who are you quoting?
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>>161585135
the nigga fucking around with Cel
behead yourself
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>>161585135
>who are you quoting
>no quote
Sir, I'm sorry to inform you I'll have to revoke your meme license.
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>>161585057
Thanks.
I'll make the Taoist and Diev one.
Just need a PD2 build now.
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>>161585683
literally who?
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>>161585647
>>161585784
(You)
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>>161585784
Cel-kun, the famous streamer of tosg. Don't tell me you don't know him?!
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>this entire thread
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>>161585892
>the famous streamer of tosg
but these are
>@Azebu in Discord, pm him for steamy hot gay ERP
and
3jane_streams_macro-usage
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>>161585595
>telling lies on the internet
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>>161586156
ok kid
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>>161586147
Who?
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>>161586469
a old fag who mostly left
and a newfag who isnt tosg
>>
>>161586704
totally no t. azebu
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>>161586704
why doesn't /tosg/ obsess more about them?
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>>161586779
im not that fag
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>all these name droppers
these fuckers need to be beheaded
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>>161586807
we used to shitpost about and hate on Azebu when he still was around

tosg (mostly Swaaz and also some other shitposters) shits a fuck lot on jane

maybe you need to play the thread more?
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>>161587054
I only knew 3jane was some necrobotter non-tosg who swaaz obsesssed over and Azebu rang no bells.
>>
Fucks sake why does this game have no end game content that's in between ETs "have top tier builds and gear or gtfo" and everything else's "walk directly to boss for loot"?
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>>161587017
hello TeamMohammed
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>>161587207
>lvl 600 cap meme

>>161587138
well ye, that is oldtosg things

RIP in steamyhotgayERP Azeshit
>>
>>161587207

Because designing real content that is fun and challenging to play takes time, effort, skill and money. Things either IMC don't have or are unwilling to invest into the game.
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>>161587418
wait Azebu was that famous discord shitposter?
good that he died then
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>>161587207
You mean why don't they have something for your shit dead-end build to do? Do uphill.

Come up with some idea and suggest it be implemented
>>
Should I go for Lolo plate / boots first or leather? As physical DPS. I'm undecided.
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>>161588482
Leather.
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i dont obsess over shitstain threejane, he sent me death threats almost daily back when arena first came out because he has a strong hatred towards squire3's. this was MONTHS before he joined tosg. the kid has a legit mental condition.
ive known azebu for 6 years, and he was the one that got me into ICBT1. now you all can hate him even more
>>
is discord rip?
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>>161588745
yes
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>azebu is the reason swaaz exists
fucking hate azebu... ... ..... .
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>>161588482

lolo boots + legs = +46 critical rate
gloves = red veris 2x red gem
top = rokas robe +8 dex

best dps set right now m8
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>>161588716
>i dont obsess over shitstain threejane
nigga youve been shitposting about 3j for months
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>>161588716
>ive known azebu for 6 years, and he was the one that got me into ICBT1
WTF I HATE AZEBU NOW
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>>161588835
cheers m8
I've only started farming 5F again
how hard is it to get the pants?
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>>161588716
Hey Swaaz I'm thinking of making your build. Tell me what I should aim for? I simply need a Squire but I've yet to see your build posted and I like it a lot. You make Squire work and that's admirable. Your shitposting too is admirable. You literally make these virgins squirm and I love every second of it. Keep doing what you're doing.

t. TeamMuhammed
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someone please explain to me why crossbows over bows
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>>161589442
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>>161589442
Crossbows were kind of the meta in R7 but it seems to have shifted away from that in R8 content.
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>>161589564
no bully please
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>>161589024
its not my fault the kid literally spammed this forum almost daily about me ever since faggot ass beethoven made him join tosg. HE is the one constantly namedropping me and saying im some sort of antichrist demon or some shit. not to mention the constant harassment ingame.
i was here months if not technically years before this dumbfuck shitposter came here, and on day 1 all he did was shitpost in capslock and/or post lies about me.
everything i do is out in the open, im one of the few that hides my true intentions. this absolute fuckface has done nothing but slander my already ridiculed name. beethoven should be hanged for allowing autistic normies here.

if you honestly think 3j is innocent here then kill yourself. he deserves any negative attention he gets. kid needs to fuck off

dont believe me? make a fresh account and not join any tosg guilds. then do one of the following
1 - walk near him when hes not afk in bee farm
2 - que in arena and be on his team and not carry him

he will then legit harass and send death threats to you on the daily, then if you put him on ignore anytime he feels like coming here he will namedrop you and make up blatant lies just to have his sheeple autistic ohgayou friends start spreading rumors about you.

the sooner ohgayou drops off the planet the faster he will realize nobody gives a single shit about him
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>>161588826
why
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>>161589417
100% positive youre not teamfaggot, because he used to kiss my ass until i told him to stop advertising barry then he legit sperged out on me and i ended up just putting him on ignore because aint nobody got time fo that
>>161589672
keep in mind this all happened months ago, shitstain 3j doesnt really come here anymore. im not being paranoid thinking all the namedrops are him. this was in the past. but time changes nothing when you send hatred towards others and act innocent.
also it was fucking hilarious when the few times hed come here, hed quote like 7 posts and accuse them all of being me, when only 1 was. and his famous response "only swaaz dislikes me"
its an actual real sign of autism, thinking its impossible that anyone but one person could dislike you.
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>>161589632
manamana
r8 bow(s) is/are really good though, enough to compete with xbow+memememe
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>>161589936
>>161589672
>i dont care about 3j but here, have a textwall about him. i totally dont love 3j
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>>161589672
You're basically the same as threejane doe
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>>161588835
>>161589186
>gloves = red veris
Virtov Leather are better.
Don't even bother with gemming them, red gems on gloves haven't been buffed.
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>all those doppelscrying about the cyclone bug fix


top kek
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>>161589937
but what about early lvls. i see people running around with crossbows all the time
2HBs do significatly more dmg
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>>161590297
>cyclone bug fix
Explain
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>>161590328
>but what about early lvls.
Arde
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>>161590285
i dont spam death threats in caps lock and brag about botting, fuck off.
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>>161589936
Dude it was a legit question. Tell us about your build.
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>>161590609
He's
Sword > Pelt 3 > Squire3 > Murm
Full Con
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>>161590297
Not a bugfix, a nerf.
>>161590414
attack speed don't make cyclone hits faster and more.
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>>161590590
You have the memory of a goldfish
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>>161590753

it's a fix. it was not really intended. before r8 patch cyclone didn't had that atk speed interaction. quicken/dov didn't did this fuck up boost hat we have now

it's so bugged that dov 15 without stacks already gives the max atk speed
what the fuck
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>>161590297
well they broke their entire DPS pretty sure the crying is merited

they'll still be top dps however
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>>161580017
Still less waiting than you have to wait in between PvP timeslots in here.
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>>161591046
no, it's a nerf
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>>161591046

No it's a nerf. Before R8 it did work. However you had to weaponswap for it to register.

Since they have no idea how to fix weaponswap bug (btw Laima cooldown reduction is permanent for diev if they weaponswap near totem still) they just removed attack speed from the equation.

IMC """""bugfixing"""""".
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>>161591430
>crying is merited

Haha, no.
Not wizard, not musket/cannon, the only ones allowed to cry because IMC fucked everything that they had.
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>Could make something useful so I'll finally be viable for end game
>Could make something fun that I want to play

Damn you Lolipan and your dying curse.
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>>161591719
>Wizards

Haha, no.
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>>161590609
it was not a legit question, because youre not teammuhammad
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>>161591917
You sure see Warlocks, Necros and... wait that's the only damaging builds that they have doing good out there, right?

R8 wizard is so useless as damage dealer that they're used just for AFK farming.
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>>161591619
>>161591643
IMC says it's a bugfix so it's a bugfix
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>>161592108
>You sure see .. Necros and... wait that's the only damaging builds that they have doing good out there, right?
No, Necro are shit and only "good" for afkfarm
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>>161592108
I dunno what you guys expected, a brand new damage class that your Chrono 3 would perfectly flow into for self-passing bullshit? IMC isn't that stupid when Warlock already is filling the damage dealer role.
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>all these doppels crying
Get rekt metafags next would be fixing fencers.
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>>161592663
>IMC isn't that stupid

and WL is trashy DPS too
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>>161592663
This. CryoChronos and LinkerChronos comfrtably slipping into a strong DPS circle, on top of having the best support skills from their tree(with literal 0 cost) would be too much. Clerics can do this and look how balanced they are.

Speaking of which, I am surprised we don't have lewds of Chronos.
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>>161593007
M-Murbish?
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>>161592412
don't believe his lies!!!!
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Need opinion, I want to do Cleric 2 Priest 1 Paladin 3 Kabba 2 for double chancu smiting and loads of defense buffs. Would it be better to go Spr to maximize the power of Barrier's magic defense boost or Dex so I can do backup damage?
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>>161593248
rare murbish
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>>161592663
>IMC isn't that stupid
>Warlock already is filling the damage dealer role
How the fuck can you be so wrong in so little words?
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>>161593380
>>161593248
no, not a Murb. im a expert on Murbs and this is not one. i can see by the pixels.
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>>161593379
You need God's Smash, autismo. Smite is useless at r8.
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>>161593518
I need the cloning skill for reasons. Actually I mostly just need that, what even compliments Kabba 2?
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>>161593494

>Thinks he's a Murbish expert

I've got Murbish rares you didn't even know could exist.
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>>161592663
>Warlock
>Damage

PICK ONE
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Cyclone nerf here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UCUlBRYIjk

You guys need to post evidence / video / proof and not do all this retarded name dropping and shitposting. I know you and your Discord boogeyman's are top notch shitposters but this has to stop.

Peace out.
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>>161594160
I have you know, i'v been studying Murbs for over 10 years now.
I may not be the best Murb expert but im for sure at the top.

>>161593007 is lacking some important Murb details.
It is, at best, a poor try at making a Murb fake.
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>>161594224
Oh wow that's pretty brutal, thanks.
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>>161594386

While you're busy studying Murbish, I've been kicked, stabbed, verbally abused and even had a lap pillow off of Murbish.
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>>161594224
kek

now i want a hipster doppel
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>>161594224
Well time to quit the game for real this time. Only class I could have fun with gets nerfed again.

It's not like you even see Doppel in top 10 PvP ever so who gave a shit really? No one. Everyone thought this was fine.
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>4022 average players all the time
I don't get it
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>>161594224
It's listed as a bugfix and the evidence was already in their patchnotes.
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>>161594687
You dummy, these are of-course all included in my studies and practical trainings.
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>>161594939
>It's not like you even see Doppel in top 10 PvP
Oh wow, are you telling me that a PvE build does badly in PvP?
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>>161595095

You mean you've been stalking Murbish and seen these things happen to me?
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>>161594939
Not really, it's a repeat of elememe. It's too good to the point it makes any class advertising itself as AoE dps completely irrelevant for high level content, PvP is really a minor part of this game.
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>>161594224
I guess chrono's no longer have a reason to skill up attack speed.
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>>161595248
>She things she is the only one getting bullied by the Murb
sorry to break it for you but.. ur not
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>>161595482

Me and Murbish have our own channel we meet up on anon.

You got nothing, just admit it.
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>>161595627
Im so sorry for you...
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>Not having a Ph.D in Murbology
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>>161595728

It's ok to be jealous anon. I've got too many Murbish rares and Murbish even accidentally admitted to collecting rares of me one time.
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>>161594224
For those who don't play Doppel:

Previously: 52 hits
Now: 21 hits

This means they just nerfed Cyclone's damage by around: 60%-70% reduced damage.

Added 4 AoE ratio to compensate which is literally nothing.
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>>161595814
Im working on it!

>>161595913
Such delusion, dont wake up poor Anon.
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>>161594224
a moment of silence for all doppel
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>>161595627
ya but did murbish make a character with your name in it?
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>>161596582

I helped name Murbishes falcon.
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>>161594224

Do not believe this guys lies. He didn't used glass mole and remove half of his gear to do the video. But yeah, you can see the number of ticks nerf. It's pretty big. Akisera is a pathological liar, lol
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>>161596026
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>>161596535
thanks anon, but a moment of silence doesn't do the dps that cyclone did
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>>161596582
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>>161597314
hi im LeSwaaz!
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>>161597390
>>161596582
Post evidence

You dont even know Murb, you dump pretender
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>>161595960
I wonder what builds will be able to bring enough dps to clear solmiki now. I'm sure they balanced it around the highest dps build as usual, which was pre-nerf doppel.
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Murb's character is literally a carbon copy of mine. I don't even know this erping scrub.
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>>161597549
>he doesnt know
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Hi tell me something about Sapper? how come i dont see these much past r8?

is claymore good? how many hits does it do?
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>>161597589
>I'm sure they balanced it around the highest dps build as usual, which was pre-nerf doppel.
They dont.
They 'balance' (you cant rly call it balance) it to be not clear-able.

Same shit at Floor20 in old patch.
If a build/combo shows up that can do it. They nerf/fix it. See F20 'clears'.

>>161597718
show me
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Cyclone wasn't depreciated by the new Doppel skills and attributes?
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>>161597809
Expect to see more of them after the buffs that'll be reaching us....eventually. Claymore and Spike Shooter is questionable, but Broom Trap and Punji Stakes can be pretty decent when used properly.

Pair with Falconer for maximum effect.
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>>161597390
You newfriends cant be this stupid
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>>161597885
go to the past 3-5 threads
CTRL+F "murbish"

not gonna spoonfeed you, cute how you claim to be a collector of rare murbs but havnt known something thats a month old
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>>161598007
thanks friend, i plan on going Sapper 3 Cannon though as some kind of demolitions support, is this okay? stoackade is good right?
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>>161597885

retreat shot + melstios was clearly a buff, the skill is not a buff (using the meaning of the world buff in rpgs), it was just a bad programmed.

but the combo that actually cleared 20f was ausrine melstis, and they didn't touched this
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>>161598309
Stockade is alright but don't expect to use it much after Level 200. I mostly only ever place them so I may blow them up immediately after to damage flying monsters with Detonate.
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>>161598146
I did, there is nothing.
Show me how wrong and retarded i am, post >>161597390 >>161596582 "Swaaz Murb"
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>>161597885
They want people to use actual combos like Falconer 3+physical damage or other such things, every time these things get cleared it's by abusing strongest dps in game+4 characters best at supporting that dps, I don't blame them for nerfing it.
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Can someone find translated Barbarian or the whole new kTOS patch because if there is none I might try to make sense of the Barbarian ones with google translate?
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>>161598619
not gonna bother

have fun thinking you know what youre talking about
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>>161598828
>backpeddling
as expected from pretentious shitposters
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>>161598986
>dismissing facts wrong because demanding spoonfeeding as proof of authenticity
how about you inspect murbish's character lodge you dumbfuck?
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defend this
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>>161599124
do it and post prove.
or just post the prove you for sure have, right?
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>>161599269
It's Meistis with 8x Glass Moles.

That's it.

Nerf Meistis?
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>>161599124
>>161598828
>>161598146
>>161597390
>>161596582
ur a dumb faggot swaaz, holy fucking shit
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im not digging through weeks of images just to satisfy you fat fucks
continue being ignorant by choice, like i give a flying fuck
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>>161598874
Where is her nose?
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>>161599378
>>161599269
It's not just Meltistis with 8x Glass Moles. That would imply he would have around 18k atk without Glass Moles, or over 7k attack without Deeds. That's a 550% transcended weapon, for sure.
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>>161599801
>>161597390
>>161596582
Swaaz please, there is not "LeSwaaz Murbish"
You gotta work on your shitposting game. If you pretend to know/love/be-a-fan-of someone, dont miss-take them with another person.

Gid gud again.
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Of all the skills, which scale the best with skill points? And which of them have corresponding (and probably valuable) monster gems?
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>>161599269
>team level 16
This fucking faggot doesn't have a single alt. No wonder the full force of his autism can flow into that sword
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>>161600424
ok ok i get it
i took the bait
going back to my shitty tbl minigame now
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>>161600683
The most valuable monster gems are the ones for Running Shot and magic arrow, however I don't think there's a ton of interest in monster gems atm because of how powerful normal gems are with the buffs to them. Heal is also notable but very easy to farm so not worth a ton. Blessing is worth a good amount as well.

Come to think of it I wonder what will happen to jolly roger gems when we get the patch to reduce the max level of the skill to 1.
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>>161600903
S-s-step up ur shitposting game
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>>161601163
jokes on you i was only pretending to be retarded
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>>161601278
yep, that's better :^)
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>>161600080

his weapon is stage 5

saving to the new one
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if swordsman is so shit in tbl how come theres a fencer top3 in 2v2 and top10 in 5v5
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>>161601142
Oh.
>>161600683 here. I'm trying to think of any reason to justify this pair of Roxona Plate Gloves over my VFGs. Would the extra gem slot and counting for a full plate set be worth it over losing 1 AoE attack ratio? Note: I have Multi Shot, Concentrated Fire, and can also mounted dash as a hakka please don't tell me to reroll.
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>>161602296
R E R O L L
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>>161477369
So much fucking this. I loved old RO, and as much as i liked the third jobs, i really hated the renewal changes.. I MISS MY ASPD BUILDS FOR ALL CLASSES.
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>>161598625
Fuck it I'll give it my best go.

Source: http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=563

>>Barbarian changes kTOS, based off of google translate + personal knowledge

>>Frenzy
>When using Barbarian skills the duration of the Frenzy buff be updated (however the overlap of Frenzy buff does not increase)
>New attribute added for C3 Barbarian that increases Frenzy duration
Basically using Barbarian skills will now extend Frenzy I believe, making it a 100% uptime skill, but you have to spam shitty Barbarian skills to do this. Also a whole new set of interactions with this new attribute.

>>Stomping Kick
>Skill attack will increase by 2 per Frenzy buff overlap.
Means most likely that AoE attack ratio goes up by Frenzy stacks. This means 20 to 40 AoE attack on a shitty skill no one uses because it's insanely buggy with and low damage.

>>Helm Chopper
>Stun chance increased by 7%, per Frenzy stack(?)
Again no idea if this means it increases Frenzy stacks per hit or makes the buff longer yet. Stun chance buff is shit because stuns are resisted more often than not in PvP, and you'll never land a Helm Chopper on another player due to it locking you in place for 1 seconds and tiny as fuck range. Helm Chopper has been 100% stun chance too unless resisted.

>>Cleave
>Critical rate buff goes up by 10 per every Frenzy stack (?)
So this means 100 critical rate with the halved Frenzy and 200 with non-halved? It's still pretty shit as the critical buff only lasts 4 seconds which is nothing. However if this rework means we can do a rotation of barbarian skills for 20 Frenzy stacks we might have 4 seconds of 200 crit rate.

(part 1 of 2)
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>>161602746
(part 2 of 2)

>>Giant Swing
>Frenzy damage is applied 2x to this skill(?)
Literally nothing. Unless the skill is fixed. Some sources say the skill deals damage per rotation now. Hope so.

>>Embowel
>2 seconds stun per Frenzy stack (1/4 duration in PvP)
This means 10 second stuns in PvE possibly againts mobs, and 2 second stuns in PvP. However Embowel is a shit skill that locks you in place for almost 2 seconds and then kicks the other player away so this doesn't make this skill any better.

>>Pouncing
>Stamina consumption reduced
Good change.

>Chance to stun per level level from 2% to 6%
Pouncing never had a stun chance at all only chance to deal additional damage TO stunned. There's only a knockdown attribute so I'm not sure what this means.

I suppose it now has an increased stun chance added ontop of knockback or knockback has been changed to stun. The original knockback was 8% per attribute. That or it's more chance to deal additional damage to stunned which is fucking nothing anyway.

>Additional chance to stun by 6% per additional Frenzy stack
So 60% chance to stun at 10 Frenzy stacks. If I'm reading this google gibberish right. Either that or more damage TO stunned.

Also I found a Plebbit post that has more info, will post it too after captcha cooldown.
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Can we combine guilds at any point? It's depressingly quiet in game.
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>>161602746
>>161602874
And finally found this on the forum which was credit to a Plebbit user, just formatted it better and removed some commentary.

>>Frenzy
>Barbarian attack skills now refresh the duration of frenzy, but dont increase the stack level. We now can have frenzy 10 up 100% of the time with the switching trait.

>>Embowel
>Stuns targets for 2 seconds per stack of frenzy (1/4th the value in PVP)
>10 stacks = 2 seconds of stun in PVP)

>>Stomping Kick
>Stomping Kicks AoE attack increases by 2 per level of frenzy.
This means a shitty 3 overheat skill with shit damage will have 20 AoE or 40 AoE ratio.

>>Cleave
>+10 Crit rate per skill level (+200 critical rate at max rank)
It's still 4 second buff, but still nice buff. Won't make a huge difference.

>>Helm chopper
>Looks like its going to increase the stun length based on frenzy stacks, but thats not how the update reads; it reads as if its improving helm chopper stun rate based on frenzy, but that doesnt make sense since helm has 100% stun.

>>Seism
>When used with 5 stacks skill transforms to "Crag" or "Cataclysm" not familiar with this character, based on the word used i assume this means the AOE of seisim is going up by alot.

>>Giant swing
>Deals damage to the target per revolution now

>>Pouncing
>Stamina consumption reduced. Increased rate of stun to 6% per skill level, also gains an extra 6 % per stack of Frenzy.

All in all seems like Barbarian is getting some mild buffs which affects both Fencers/Doppels, but overall it's nothing too great. Only good one is Cleave and Giant Swing might not be shitty.
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>>161603067
This. We really need to band together into one guild at this point. I know it will never happen because
>egos
but I'm going to say it anyway.
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>>161602230

top 5 = pure rng, specially with recent bug (we rarely have 10 people loading into the field)

2x2 = fencer is legit, but still takes rng since there's lots of impossible to win match-ups. Doable to be top 15 everyweek if you know how to play and have very good gear. you basically oneshot archer and other weak swordies and dodge everything, that's how you get mmr.
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>>161600903
>>161596582
Stay stronk Master Swaaz!

Dont let your funposting memes be dreams.

xd
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>>161603186
if we're all in the same guild, we can't war each other
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>>161592887
watch them add 15 second cooldown to your main dps skill and adding 2 overcharges just like what they did with highlander
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>doppel ruined
ok so anyone got any fencer builds they can recommend?

if not I'm going to make a druid because IMC never nerfs clerics
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queue for gvg nerds
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>my class will never receive buffs because minigametards will cry


PvP should be removed from the game.
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>>161604465
>deport 3j
>is in 3j's botted afk party at bee's
son i am disappoint
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>>161605747
its a meme, you dip
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>>161605963
hi welcome to 4chin
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>>161605963
>>161605747
and not with 3j today
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>>161606062
"today"
youre still tainted, you give swaaz a bad name now
and thats hard as hell to do, you had one job!
i hope to god cats doesnt take that 3j autist in when beet quits for good, or else im officially joining a normie guild. shame on all of you for enabling that autist botting fuckwad
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What are the chances that ToS gets an award in the game awards show?
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>>161606407
in all seriousness the game music is a possible award winner
even though most of it is placed in wrong areas
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>>161606306
to bad for you.. beeth, cats and 3j seem to get along well

>shame on all of you
lmao
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>>161606826
t. 3j
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>>161606542
>>161606407
Music and graphics (no, not fps) are really well made. some of the few nice things left in TOS
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>>161602230
2v2 has
>1x Lancer who is a whale
>1x Doppel with Sword3
>1x Corsair C3

That's it. Rest are hunters and sages. Surprisingly no clerics this week on Fedimian.
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Someone post a wugu build that is good at pvp and don't suck at all in pve.
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>all this cringy "cute" posting
>muh 3jane, muh murbish, muh glorified waifu poster
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>>161608625
welcome to /tosg/
we've been fags for like a year now
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>>161608914
no you don't get to define this general with your faggotry
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>>161608985
this faggoty been here forever
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>>161608985
i bet you kiss girls faggot
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>>161609052
no it literally hasn't you're all new here
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>>161609224
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>>161609337
doesn't matter what smug reaction image you use
/tosg/ wasn't this faggy around EA
only after that Cattly faggot started spamming his kiss meme shit did the general take a turn and now you faggots still linger thinking you're cute

you're not
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>>161609532
i was here in EA, CBT and KR. and there always was a lot of faggoty
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>>161609532
>only after that Cattly faggot started spamming his kiss meme shit did the general take a turn
that started in icbt

nice try tho
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>>161609532
im not a weebo faggot but ive been here since international-closed-beta-test-phase-1 and this general has always been full of trap lovers
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>>161609532
most of the "cute" and "smug" pictures i have are saved from this general, starting in Nov2015
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>>161609767
and my name was feminism during ICBT1 so i guess you can say ive been fighting the fight since day 1
you all need to memorize my pronouns or im gonna blog about it in official forums and expose you
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>>161609697
you caught me

still I hate you faggots so much, it's like being forced to read a gay man's erotic fan fiction while trying to have a discussion

look I get it you like to suck dick but do you have to do it here? isn't discord a better platform? you can even post porn there
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>>161609920
whisper beethoven
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>>161609532
tos is a animu gaimu, don't expect quality
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>>161609920
sorry mate. i dont like dickord much. blame early tosg for that.
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>>161609920
What's there even to discuss?
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>>161610378
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>>161609920
swaaz fuck off
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>>161610468
not me
>>161609767
>>161609858
is me fuckass retard
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>>161606407
The hue award
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>>161610573
chill lmao
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Holy shit guys. This has to be unhealthy for you.
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Cats please kick TeamMuhammad and Kirito (Dave) from DC

Thanks
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>>161609532
>/tosg/ wasn't this faggy around EA
Hello newfriend
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>>161610957
see >>161609920
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>>161608472
thx
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>>161610872
yes please kick me and kick Dave (Kirito) from DC

t. TeamMuhammed
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>>161609532
This mess way gay as fuck the day they first announced beta keys, and then everyone proceeded to get fucked in the ass.
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>>161611349
Go away you aren't /tosg/

And you aren't TeamMuhammad either because you spelled your name wrong.
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>>161610814
fuck off pedophile
pizza is code word for child porn
gee i wonder why LOLI let you lead, what a coincidence!
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>>161610872
Please also kick me Sparnenigga

.t Sparnenigga
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>mfw 3 minutes in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsDOFru9m14

holy shit what
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>>161611501
>>161610814
>gee cats two wieners
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>>161609767

>wow swaaz got a relevant rank at pvp
>too bad it was on the week were ranks are all scrambled because of the loading bug

nice try
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Thank you all for the spiritual (You)s in this thread, here's to another month of the good updates coming soon(tm)!
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>>161611469
yes please kick me and kick David (Murbish) from OC

t. TeamMahammud
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>>161610872
I've made a reputation of being someone who gets along with most everyone. When someone didn't get along with me though, I let them publicly PvP me for it. If I won, I got to keep posting. If I lost, I wouldn't post for 24-48 hours.

I won't ask anyone to do what I wouldn't do, so if muting them or blocking them just isn't good enough for you, I'll let the three of you PvP one another for it, or select a champion to PvP for you. Whoever wins can stay and whoever loses can leave for 24 hours.

I'm not going to abuse my admin power, but I'll be more than happy to watch you use your own power to fight and take what you want, just like I did.
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make a new thread you fucking losers
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>>161611989
Look at this pussyfooted faggot, such a disgrace.
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>>161589672
Seriously, you're such a dickrider. I don't ever talk about you.I've never sent you a death threat or really said anything to you except asking you to stop queuing in like august.
You are actually guilty of exactly what you're accusing me of. I'm not the only person name-dropping you. -- in fact, I don't name drop you, pretty much ever. I come here and read the thread pretty much every day. You're wrong about everything, fuck off already and get a life.
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>>161611989
>I'm not going to abuse my admin power
You literally have multiple times in the past.
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>>161611607
don't advertise shit please
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>>161611989
i choose Swaaz to fight for me. If he wins, please kick Cats from DC.
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>>161612150
ok look here the shitter is denying the fact he shits all over anyone that isnt meta in TBL
if i gave two shits about you id of screencapped the constant harassment you threw at me 6+ months ago but youre worth as much as my piss bottles
go fucking die already asshole, atleast im man enough to back what i say. all you do is bitch and complain then hide behind your trap lover and claim other people are bullying you.
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>>161612179
>asks cats to kick someone he doesnt like
>gets shut the fuck down
>accuses cats of something without proof
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>>161612214
it talks about ToS you fucking retard
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>>161612228
what is DC?
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>>161588716
He was on /tosg/ before TBL came out because he started going on /tosg/ before he tried to join FP which was mid July (TBL came out late July)
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>>161590285
THIS LMAO
THIS IS THE FUNNIEST PART
THE TWO OF YOU ARE ASSHOLE SORE LOSERS WHO EXPECT TO BE CARRIED IN TBL WITH YOUR MEME BUILDS WHO SHIT TALK EVERYBODY YOU DON'T LIKE
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>>161612517
It's ok: SOMEBODY clearly doesn't read the thread. Dude's just mad that 3j's "more /tosg/" than him in the polls.
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>>161612150
once again you lack the mental capacity to read the whole paragraph and just immediately feel the right to have an opinion on something you know nothing about
for the 2nd time, this happened half a year ago. you havnt namedropped me in months because youve been on my ignore since before ohgayou even formed. you moved on to other people to complain about.
this doesnt mean ive forgotten what you did, and i have no intentions of giving you the slightest chance to prove youre anything but an autistic shitstain
looking forward to you killing yourself
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>>161612642
>caps lock
>is definietely not 3j i swear
lookie here guys we got a secret spy
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>>161611989
>he does not blindly follow the orders of tosg shitposters, unlike some other 'big leader' did in the past
nice to see there are actual people here and not just tools
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>>161612682
Swaaz was in the lead until 3j mysteriously got 20+ votes in the span of 5 minutes.
Just go, we all know when you post. You are horrible at hiding it.
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>>161612828
Swaaz you retard listen here. You're a shit player who blames everyone but themselves for losing. Sometimes you even give up halfway in TBL and stand there typing to your team talking shit because you're so salty even though you queueing with your meme build is half the reason your teams always lose. You tell people not to queue anymore too, you and threejane could literally be the same fucking person using two accounts, I wouldn't be surprised lmao you both act the same
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>>161611989
Why would you not kick cancer though

Isn't DC supposed to be /tosg/. I bet you'd kick swaaz tbqh
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>>161613189
>Isn't DC supposed to be /tosg/
It is not. Its his personal thing and for organized GvGs.
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>>161613050
he sent me death threats for the 10th and final time this autistic shitter literally spammed me with death threats and STARTED IT, and yes ive been quitting mid-fight the past two weeks because TBL has been broken the last 2 weeks
i am looking forward to giving the faggot future death threats, since he seemed to feel he had the right to send them to me for not being a meta build in TBL over half a year ago
i dont give a flying fuck if you think im like him, after the harassment he sent towards me i have no intentions of stopping. i will act childish and fight fire with fire and again state the immature fact that he started it.
if you feel the need to defend 3j to be anyone but a completely useless sack of shit youre the problem here.
t. ohgayou faggot
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Those Barbarian buffs are pretty fucking good. Using Cleave for an extra 200 crit rate is insane, specially if you use them right before Casting something like Dethrone or one of the other big nukes, pretty much guarantees a kill.

If Giant Swing actually works now AND does damage per revolution, it's a pretty good single target skill right now. If it works in PvP(it didn't even before) you might be able to kill people instantly with it, but I wouldn't bet on that working in PvP.

I like how they're linking a bunch of mechanics into Frenzy stacks, it gives the class lots of depth. I'd reset into Frenzy 10 now if I had a Barb-based character.

I guess Embowel is worth at least 1 point now.
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>>161613189
>>161613289
WHAT IS DC?
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>>161613475
Drinking club, Cats' dischord channel. Only cool inner circle kids allowed.
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How much block penetration should I have for PvP? Provided I have 2x Glass and am a Cata. Without any STR investment and just glass bracelets I have 268 which seems low. I'm not wearing max peta right now which would give some STR but I have 50 stat points unspent. Should I put them into STR?
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>>161613312
I'm not defending threejane you dipshit read what I've said. You and threejane are both manchild sore loser fucks who can't deal with things not going your way, you both blame everyone and everything but yourselves and harass anyone who you don't like. You're both immature little shits, neck yourself
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>>161613610

>>161613610

>>161613610

migrate
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>>161613539
Wait team-islam and kirito are in his discord clique?
Ok im out, appreciate the info.
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>>161613475
the discord Cat's writes in each or each 2nd recruitment post he does. and >>161613289
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>>161613670
yes, its a normie clique everyone can join
bye
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>>161613312
Give receipts. You must have screenshots? Some kind of proof?
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>>161613385
Fuck off, they shouldn't even be buffing Barbarian considering it's literally one of the most taken Swordsman circles already.

What about the real shit classes? Fuck you IMC.
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>>161612267
>as much as my piss bottles
>implying you have piss bottles
>implying you're literal human garbage
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