/poeg/ - Path of Exile general

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post ur are face when your build didnt get nerfed or buffed

>>161453619
Why isn't Path of Building part of the new thread pasta? PoESkillTree can suck a dick

>>161453619
nice vinktar nerf

I have crippling depression

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>>161453727

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>>161453727

Grand spectrum nerf...why?
Wanted to try a vortex GS build and know I get the shitter version of the jewels...

>>161454001
if it were up to me they'd be deleted
aren't you glad chris is a softie

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>>161453882

>>161454001
doesnt matter anyway
getting enough of them to be viable was like 50ex

>>161452647
poeurl.com/Sar

>Melee action targeting has been greatly improved.
>exactly zero (0) videos or previews of this

It's going to be shit isn't it

>>161454145
thats like first 4 days of the league...
pretty easy to get if you go for it.

>>161454428
Well, it can't be worse than it is currently, so thats a plus.

>>161454438
i feel like you're an rmter to say something that fucking stupid

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Farm currency for Mjolner for 1 year for 55 ex back in the day so i could finally feel strong and rewarded.. Oh wait.. nerf'd and worth 2 ex now.. Get over it.. Go for Cospri, spend months optimizing, trading for currency, fire conversion gear, Izaro turmoils to make it strong.. Feel rewarded.. Oh wait.. nerf'd and for fucking what? I can cast cold spells with spell echo around 9 or 10 times a second and have them in a 6l!.. so why the fuck did you just cripple a huge investment 3l that hits up to ten times per second down to 4? It was already balanced.. now its shit.. you kill every fun build out there that people invest their time and effort into! Check it out.. Cospri's malice is 3 months old.. was heavily tested and balanced to begin with.. and you just fucked the entire build..again.. for NONSENSE? And you wonder why you're losing players like crazy? to grab a couple new ones every new league for a few weeks while the tried and true have had enough of the bullshit. Oh boohoo poor me right? A purple beyond league you have to rush to win.. Hey! I know!! I'll play BLADE VORTEX! Dumbasses!

>>161454663
Is this some pasta or are you actually autistic?

>>161454428
I think chris said on leddit that basically when you shift + click with a melee skill now it checks for valid targets in a small forward arc instead of a line directly ahead of your character.

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How are you guys going to link your Blade Flurry? Thinking about going phys BF w/ melee dmg/melee dmg full life/aoe/leech/added fire, swap for conc on bosses.

>>161454912
Good luck getting 5 off-colors on an ES chest.

>>161454912
ele > phys

BF > WED > elemental focus > crit dmg > faster attacks

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>>161454912
>Blasphemy + Clarity

>>161455109
You realize that you can get gems to level? Switch from hatred if I need leech + warlords.

>>161454996
Was thinking about using a Saintly or something until I could get one. But yeah should probably go something else.

>>161455023
Forgot I need to survive reflect, will prob switch to ele instead since I can use Ele Focus instead of another melee damage one. Also faster attacks is shit on ranger because you're already madly scaling attack speed from Raider.

>>161454663
link to the forum thread please

>>161455272
leeching mana is probably better than relying on clarity

5l BF mana cost is only like 10

>>161455378
Isn't Blade Flurry virtually no mana cost anyways? I figure an Elreon ring + clarity will sustain me (not going to need high level clarity).

>>161455292
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975/page/12/#p13914986

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>>161453727

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>Soul Strike's faster start of energy shield recharge has been reduced to 80%. A Divine Orb can be used to reroll the stats within this new range.
That's brutal.

>>161455460
a 6l will be about 15 mana

>>161454876

sounds fucking awful

EQ still the best melee and that's fucking depressing

>>161455559
I honestly think GGG nerfs CoC/Cospri/Mjolnir/Wormblaster primarily for the strain on the server, damage nerf is just collateral.

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>>161455857
You forgot this.

>>161455857
this guy gets it

im playing hc and all the little meme shitlords playing assassin with blade flurry are gonna reroll 12 times while im immortal mapping all day

>>161455934
how can you die if there's nothing left to kill you?

>>161455934
Blade Flurry feels pretty safe on high attack speed builds though. You can build it similarly to an EQ build as well, with endurance charges included.

>>161455934
>assassin when raider is new meta
Also CI still gets up to twice the HP pool of Life. Immortal EQ's still gonna be great for uber lab though.

>>161455934
pretty sure CI BF + VP is tankier than anything a juggernaut can muster

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>design autosort option
>hide it behind pay wall

>>161456114
you only die when you want to die on a juggernaut

>>161456041
raider vaal spark is gonna be so insane

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as CI ele blade flurry, would running alpha's howl be worth it? you could run wrath + anger instead of just wrath + HoT

>>161456238
no it isnt

go to bed steyox

How do I into PoE?

your post makes me anger

>>161456251
no

get skyforth + aura nodes

>>161456251
A good hubris is 2k ES, if this sounds like an acceptable loss to you, you might as well stick to life builds

>>161456297
>get skyforth
no
>>161456334
my build will have 8-9k ES with alpha's and a hybrid es/evasion chest

>>161455908
ggg hasnt done a single thing that didn't had "money" behind it since 2013
no, seriously.

>>161453619

>patch notes
>ctrl + f "Poison"
>1 find
>its a buff

Neato, so which poison builds are you going to be playing anons?

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>>161456334
>lightning coils and other melee gear the cheapest and most plentiful it's ever been
>but only because life is shit

>>161456383
>ci attack build
>no skyforths

back to the drawing board

>>161456449
fuck off

you aren't funny

>>161455720

I wanted to play some tanky support Occultist too. grrrr

>>161456497
it's not a joke idiot

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>>161456405
>people actually think duration change is a poison buff

see you all in march

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>>161456569
DON'T GO ANON.

I ... I LOVE YOU, PLEASE STAY

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>>161456671

Can I run wild strike and not hate myself now

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>>161456709
lolnojk

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>>161456520
>just get skyforths bro lolxd what are you a shitter lmao

>>161456383
There isn't any justifiable reason to use Alpha's on an ES build now that you can craft 5% reduced mana reservation with essences being core. You can also get enchants reducing Wrath/Anger reservation, possibly eliminating the need to use Alpha's or a crafted hubris in the first place.

>>161456812
we here in /poeg/ are elite players

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>>161456812
>he didnt chance a skyforth last league

>>161456829
correct but i was looking at is more of a temporary solution until i can get those items which will be rare and expensive. i don't know how my damage will be because i've never played a build like it before

>>161456912
you don't need more than one arua on an ele attack build desu one + herald + disc will be fine

so what is cospris malice worth now
1ex?
less?

>decide i'm going to play scrubcore this league
>think about how boring it will be
>change my mind
that was close

>>161456912
A deafening essence of Loathing is anything but expensive, you could get it on day 2. Any garbage roll is going to be better than a zero ES helmet. You should have no issue getting something decent by the time you actually switch to CI which implies a minimum starting budget. 2 50% auras is overkill anyway, ele builds do just fine with just Wrath and BF is hardly lacking in damage.

>>161456989
dunno but if it's cheap enough I'ma pick up 2 for skin transfers

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The powercreep is real

>>161456989
about 20% of yesterday's price :^)

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So pathfinder is completely dead. Do I go witch or shadow now?

>>161456553

Its not about being a buff it literally only impacted the use of "less duration" support which no poison abilities really use.

The point is that Poison did not get nerfed and it will still dominate.

>>161456989
lul

>>161456553
nice meme text my man

>>161457123
it's pretty hard to use the burst on flurry though. you have to channel for a few seconds while being right next to a boss that can easily one shot you

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>>161456989
>>161457083

>>161457123
>muh spreadsheets
>muh bar graphs
>muh numbers
This would have relevance if players were robots and could perfectly time their channeled skills for maximum damage output or if "weapon dps" was the be all and end all of melee metrics, this isn't D3 you can't compare skills with just "weapon dps"

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>>161457123
Jesus.

>>161457427
You realize there's already an ahk script to build and release perfectly channeled bf?

>>161457351
Raider gets like 100% attack speed from frenzy charges + normal tree nodes so it charges really fast. If you go onslaught instead of phasing you get ~150% attack speed.

>>161457201
... for what build you cretin? Should we just guess it for you?

>decide to see some cold spell builds on the forum
>just to see the meta
>every one of them is fire or fire to chaos conversion
Damn..I feel so sad now....

new tier list
Blonde Slut God tier: Raider
""""""FREE"""""" other shit tier: Slayer, Inquisitor, Occultist, Berserker
Playable Tier: Chieftain, Assassin, Elementalist, Necromancer
Garbage tier: Deadeye, Juggernaut, Trickster, Pathfinder
Delete Build tier: Saboteur, Hierophant, Gladiator, Champion
Fuck Blondes tier: Ascendant

Guardian tier: Guardian

>>161457560
bv

>>161457692
Ascendant is qt tier

>>161457763
if by qt you mean quite trash, sure.

>>161457692

if you think pathfinder is garbage tier, you are delusional

its not as strong as it was but its still '''free''' tier

also saboteur
>bad

delete your life m8

>>161457845
I'm willing to wait and see on Pathfinder. They do still get free poison and shit, but they can't permaflask as easily so they lose those perks.
>playing a trapper
kys

>>161457248
EQ uses Less Duration and poisons with Voidheart. This is a pretty big nerf to its poison damage since L20 Less Duration is half duration.

>nerf crit builds because of pathfinder
>es remains pretty much unchanged whereas life gets shat on by new map mods again
>no vinktars nerf, RUMIS NERF INSTEAD
AHAHAHAHAH YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP, YOU JUST CANT, WHAT IS GGG EVEN THINKING?

is ancestral btfo now and worthless? Was planning to play a totem build.

>>161457845
>sabo
>gee bill, why does your build require you to have two mana flasks?
>chug
>chug
>chug

>>161458010
>Vessel of Vinktar
>Topaz Flask
>Lasts 4.00 Seconds
>Consumes (54 to 60) of 60 Charges on use
Good luck sustaining with 1 charge every 200 ms.

>>161458010
block was good in some testing build and you were too dumb to use it

>>161458096

>vaal breach

>>161458096
>he cant kill bosses in <4s
nicebuild

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>>161458010
The funniest part is that Rumis is still good for pathfinders and the price will go down.

Whos ready for BLADEFLURRYLEAGUE.. Can't wait for 3.0 when blade flurry gets gutted

i'm going a totem
maybe bino's will trade for more than a wisdom scroll fragment with all of the people trying to level flurry's blade

I dont get the fucking SRS nerfs? why would they do this and not touch BF.

also
>vinktars untouched

sasuga GGG

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>tfw flame golem got buffed ax extra 200%
>rank 20 now does 3200 base DPS
>necros have 200% minion damage = 9600 DPS
>minion damage + elemental focus + controlled destruction = 33k dps
>add in offering + minion haste talents = 66k dps

Wear a +1 golem mace = 132k dps.

Add in curses.

And this is on a fucking 4 slot, you still get to keep your 6 linked spectres and 4linked +2 helmet zombies.


>tfw 6 linked flame golem (with multicast and conc effect) does 150k dps EACH BEFORE CURSES

Nigga, summoners are gonna rape the shit out of guardians/makers while the gear level is still non-existent.

i'm not looking forward to seeing threads full of autistic blade flurry hate tho
i really hate the people that play this game
they only play to be faggots

>>161457427
Even with inefficient play bladeflurry out damages heavy strike by 20% and it can hit multiple targets. Standing in place is a risk but most builds will most likely have enough attack speed to disregard it.

>>161458068
>mana flasks = shit"
we need a separate /neopoeg/ thread.

Why is everyone talking about Assassin for Blade Flurry?

You can take Beserker and get MORE damage and attack speed, just generate power charges via Ass Mark. Also just take Adders touch and you get 30% poisen chance.

I'm gonna run the maths closer to the release date, but I'm very certain you can get alot more movement speed, attack speed and damage out of beserker.

>>161458767
wow dood even though those skills work with different weapon types it does all that??

>>161458739
This kind of dps calculation is as laughable as that retard with his EHP copypasta.

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>>161458864

>MY BRAIN HURT NO NUMBER PLZ
>SHOW ZIGGYD MOVIE I CAN UNDERSTAND

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>>161458739
He knew

i hate ziggyd so much

no offense ziggy

>>161458742
>ooh a new league
>WTF PEOPLE ARE PLAYING THIS BUILD???
>WTF THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO OF SOMEONE 1 SHOTTING SHAPER FUCKING NERF IT GGG
>FUCK THIS GAME

>oooh a new league

>>161458785
It is quite awkward to get out of the duelist area for ES builds.

>>161458785
toxic delivery will pretty much always be more damage. zerkers get 40% more because it's a pain in the ass to build them into crit.

>>161458860
lmfao, you're making a fool of yourself dude
>You can use heavy strike with axes that totally makes up for doing half the base damage of Blade Flurry

>>161458785
Are you fucking serious? Please, read Assassin's Toxic delivery in detail. Every line is insane added dps for BF and that's just half of the ascendancy.

>>161458739

Yea, too bad golems are still wonky as fuck and range from not doing anything at all, to slapping mobs around for a few seconds.

only thing golems are good for with that +1 from elementalist is putting a chance to blind support on them so you get FREE evasion

>>161459231

its not an issue vs bosses though.

Fireball spamming ribbon spectres clear entire screens of trash np, the golems will do the heavy lifting for bosses.

Soo what should i roll.

Firestorm + emberwake
Vortex + pyre

And just play the doubledip meta all over again.

steyox was tested and found to have an iq of 87

>>161459296

Yea.. but don't fireball spamming ribbons also clear bosses rather easy? I mean people killed shaper with them. Altough the firebreathing cannibals seemed pretty neat as well.

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>>161453619

rangers should be uncropped tbqh

>>161459323
>Firestorm + emberwake
This is a meme and will never work in any realistic scenario

>>161459408
i wish i had screenshots of liftingnerdbro dying repeatedly on guardians and shaper with ribbons
also him being too stupid to use slower proj

>>161459486
more?

>>161459064
Well Aspect of Carnage ignore the critical strike conditions of Toxic Delivery. Its also 40% on the source too. Beserker also gets FREE leech. gonna run Ass Mark, Enfeeble on crit CI and top the ladder for our clan.

>>161459486
I'd full clear her Thicket map, if you catch my drift

>>161459323
Is Vortex even safe, you gotta get up close with mobs and concentrated effect on bosses is asking to be hit.

is hvc going to play for real this league or is pt going to lead the reddit circlejerk with his genius

>>161459542
dunno where the set is

i only ever saw like 4 images of it and have only that one saved

Jesus what a shit patch

>>161459617

It wrecks shit. And if you invest in some aoe you will be nearly hitting the whole screen without conc, so even with conc you should have some range.

>>161459965
how are you igniting with pyre? chance to ignite support or skill tree + elementalist?

is prolif good enough to drop pyre for hrimburn or 3 dragons?

>>161459965
>invest in some aoe

to do full screen vortex you need some pretty serious aoe investment, not just "some"

>>161459617
What is Frostbolt. Vortex is extremely safe thanks to the chill and you can just frostbolt Vortex and run away.

I personally like Hrimburn over Pyre since you can proc EE with the cold damage for the ignite.

>>161460163
It fullscreens with ignite prolif and Witch+Templar AoE + Increased AoE (and Elementalist occasional 25% area helps). You should head to both places anyways.

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How is melee crit calculated?

My understanding:

>1) Check accuracy
If check fails then no damage is done, if check succeeds then go on to check crit.

>2) Check crit
If crit fails the normal hit is deal, if crit succeeds then checks accuracy again

>3) Check accuracy again
If check fails then deals normal hit, if check succeeds then crit happens

---

So assuming 100 DPS with 85% chance to hit, 20% to crit and 133% crit multi. DPS will be:

Miss + Normal Hit and Failed Check Crit + Success Crit check but Failed Accuracy Check + Success Crit check and Success Accuracy Check
0*.15 + 100*0.85(.80) + 100*0.85(.20)(.15) + 100*.85(.20)(.85)(1.33) = 89.7685

---

Is this accurate?

So does blade vortex still hit or it's a degen like thing now?
I mean whether 1bv = 1.66 hits -> 20bv = 5 hits per sec, or 1bv = 20 bv same # of hits but damage of 5 hits?

>>161458708
>SRS nerfs
Literally the exact same """"""nerf"""""" BV got last league.

>>161460314
I'm gunna say you fucked something up but I'm rusty on mechanics so /shrug

What are the new values for melee weapon ranges?I saw 12 on a 1h sword.Going Cyclone raider SSF what could go wrong?

>>161460591
Why would you say that? Does the number look too high at the end or something?

>Theorycraft Caustic Arrow build that Poisons
>Realize that a basic crit bow or +3 caustic arrow will do more damage
Rounding out is never the answer.

is bladeflurry dead?

Ele Weak + Flammability + Fire Pen on Elementalist for Pyre Vortex?

something like 140 fire pen. little investment in terms of skill tree
>run 2 blasphemy, take those curse effectiveness for more firepen
>put fire pen support

>???

>>161460746
name an enemy that has 140 fire resistance

>>161460653
After looking into it some more to double check things you seem to got the right Idea

Question:
Does a vagan-modded weapon (or other source of 'can't be evaded') also skip the crit vs evasion roll?

>>161460873
Thanks for checking.

>>161460746
I did crit Ignite Vortex last league, I can tell you the Vortex damage by itself's absolute garbage and no amount of of reduce fire resist will help with that.

The Ignite does far more damage than the Vortex itself, and penetration does not apply to do the dot. For the record, EE > 2 maxed out curses for the amount of investment needed and get fucked by reduced curse effectiveness against bosses.

>>161460931
I want to say the second accuracy check is still checked, just the first roll is bypassed

but hell if i know

>>161460792
retard

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>>161461042
don't call him a retard, retard

>>161461107
inb4 >catshitter

dont you dare respond to me

>>161461030
>>161460931
They're both skipped

So I just started playing PoE a week ago and I love it. I've been playing HC with an arc witch and I recently died to the boss in the labyrinth on normal

What's a good build for the new league coming up? I'd prefer not to die before I can get to all this mapping stuff, but I will also obviously have no equipment from the new league

>>161461346
Chieftain RF Totem

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAQLQA4cEBwW1CC4Mcw18EVAS8RXXFe0XJhslG60dTx3ZIuoi9CSdJP0spiy_LR8tTS9yNAo1uTdmN4M-z0HQQ1RGcUcGSwpLrkyzUUdUvVT-VmNXyVv0XEBfal-wYQZiWmuQbAttGW-edK53B3mheoR7FH_GgwmExYauhxOIQouZjb-P-pMnlLiVZpaLm42btZykpuunK6c0qTSus7GztAy0xbfZuW-95sHFwuzDOspK0K3Q0NN-1bnWvtlb21Xb59-K51To1ukC6rrsGPRx9vz5Y__e

R8

and be gentle, i havent done this in a while

>>161461346
anything if you're learning
just pick a build that you like that isnt too expensive

also dont take on the labyrinth until you get to the next difficulty eg get to cruel before you beat the normal lab

>>161461346
If you're still learning, don't play HC.
Ignore the hardcucks who imply that anyone who plays SC is garbage.

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>tfw u have 28 grand spectrums

>>161461472
>https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAQLQA4cEBwW1CC4Mcw18EVAS8RXXFe0XJhslG60dTx3ZIuoi9CSdJP0spiy_LR8tTS9yNAo1uTdmN4M-z0HQQ1RGcUcGSwpLrkyzUUdUvVT-VmNXyVv0XEBfal-wYQZiWmuQbAttGW-edK53B3mheoR7FH_GgwmExYauhxOIQouZjb-P-pMnlLiVZpaLm42btZykpuunK6c0qTSus7GztAy0xbfZuW-95sHFwuzDOspK0K3Q0NN-1bnWvtlb21Xb59-K51To1ukC6rrsGPRx9vz5Y__e


GAAAAAAY

>>161461649

whats wrong anon

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Would someone be willing to put aside 2 minutes of their new league time to give some currency ported to standard? It's not like you're ever gonna play standard, right?

>>161461575
SC is garbage though, only league you should play are temp leagues

literal museum league

>SC = standard
retard

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>>161461472
??????????

>>161461472
That pathing up the right side is a waste when you're already in the scion area

>standard isn't SC

based retard

>>161461472
Dude, I think you're using an old treeplanner or something. You have a random trap node out of nowhere.

>>161461787
>>161461898

i removed that

that was retarded my b

where's the damage on a high block build
or should I stick to permanent fortify

>>161461472
phys crit blade flurry?
go assassin
raider is a shit meme

drop mana drinker
drop conduit
drop the regeneration node near CI
get melding and connect the path below that
use an energy from within jewel in the socket next to melding

drop the frenzy charge and get the power charge near ghost reaver

theres a lot of other stuff like inefficient pathing/nodes

>>161461813

i need to go top right for CI

i can trim a bit of the fat by removing the dex nodes in the middle and grabbing a socket after coming down

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>Was almost sure in which build to play
>See patch note
>More unsure than ever

>>161461972
facebreaker is really the only option but you still need phys gear in every slot and even then you struggle in t10+ maps

I want to make frostblades work

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAJuNCC5rkBcm7YMS8XqEGY4vctCtAF4tTUHQ0359dQOH_rqVZrvjDHPEorGzo4obrSP27g4EsU2SjX2BrPzFVvp7FDB8M5INjXfX3UZ_K8jcUUdDE1uvh3bYYGOnwUk31D7Pjb9OKuOf1y0Rgf4d7T-95gW11CNM_0p9SQ_C7DBxQzG0xd2owzPawY1-DPJirEt4WhouU3TtzZily2yMOkLTbwUt6mKdqnrvdcs2Pb6n62NlTWBBES8DHrVIvTZjcB9B1EJHfqZ_hG-E2e1Bdf0B3Ba_d-MmlaluYeLAGlVLeA1vO4w2tfI1kv6P2L1N4_4KplfyRTrhMZ5ybGxGMglttKgHZ4A=

frost blades weapons
2x touch of anguish

molten strike weapons
2x dreamfeathers/2x high attack speed rare

chest ~
Hyrri's Ire/Kintsugi/Queen of the Forest

helmet
rare

gloves
surgebinders

boots
Darkray Vectors/The Blood Dance/atziri's step

amulet
Hinekora's Sight/Karui Charge

rings
2x rare

belt
Doryani's Invitation

1 4link, 1 6link
molten strike
MS-conc effect-multistrike-WED-faster attacks-point blank

or

frost blades
FB-added fire-WED-multistrike-faster attacks-faster projectiles

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Phys Crit CI Spectral Throw? I made a life/dodge version, but after seeing the patch notes this looks better in just about every single way.

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>>161462059
pick something fun

in the end all that matters is you're having fun

>>161462138
>frost blades

lmao

>>161462012

i thought i would have problems with sustain in the SR so i decided to grab that

I dont want to grab melding tho

incorporated some of the stuff you said though

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>>161462015
60 dex
10 int

vs

30 dex
30 int
8% mana
and a jewel socket

?

>>161462138
without damage nodes

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAJuNCC5rkBcm7YMS8XqEGY4vctCtAF4tTUHQ0359de96_rruDrvjgaz8xVb6xKIzkg2Nd9d_K0MTW6-HdthgMHxOKuOf1y2NfcjcUUdM_0p9SQ8j9sFJN9Q-z42_QzFNkv4d7T-95gW11CPDM9rBjX7C7DBxWhouU3TtzZi0xd2o028FLepiDPJirEt4eu91y6XLbIw6Qr6nnaplTTY9vTbrY0d-ES8DHrVIhNkfQdRCAdyEb3fjdf2pbha_wBomlXgNbzth4rXyVUs1kow2_o_YvU3j_gqmV_JFOuExng==

pls critique

>>161462287
melding + energy from within jewel is a godtier ES node mate

>>161462162
But I only have fun when I'm fighting with you guys

>>161462346
they nerfed that

>>161462283
FREE double chain sounds fun though

>>161462292

thanks senpai

*slow claps*

*steps out of portal*

Heh... not bad, exile. Not bad at all. Your build, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty viable... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But builds aren't all sunshine and rainbows, exile. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a streamer? To rake those esteemed twitch views? To call yourself a member of the League's ladder?? Build design takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class builds - I mean the big guys, like LiftingNerdBro and ProjectPT- they're out there day and night, burning the midnight oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big build.

And you know what, exile? 99 times out of a hundred, that new build fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest build copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate builds over on the forums. The build game is rough, exile, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan build you craft in your skill builder, some cocksucker at reddit has a Pathfinder or some shit that a million different exiles will attach a milion different flasks to. Chin up, exile. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.

See you in the Breach...

>>161462361
Energy from within is probably still pretty high value.

>>161462293
That's a lot of mana leech

>>161462443
super onslaught molten strike

i wanted the on hit mana gain, but i'm sure it can be scaled back with some good rings

>>161462292
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAALQA4cILgxzDXwRUBLxFdcV7RcmGYobJRutHU8d2SL0JJ0k_SymLL8tTS9yNAo1uTdmN4M-z0HQQ1RGcUsKS65RR1S9VP5WY1fJW_RcQF9qX7BhBmJaa5BsC20ZbwhvnnSudwd5oXqEexR_xoMJhMWGrocTiEKIW4uZj_qTJ5S4lWaWi5cGm42btZykoS-keKbrpyupNLALsbO0DLfZuW-95r6KwcXB1cM6xKLKSsrT0K3Q0NN-1bnZW9tV3vjfit-Y51TpAuq67Bj0cflj_94=

thanks

that actually makes a shit ton of sense

i grabbed thrill killer for mana sustain as well

thoughts?

or should i go for the reduced mana reservation node

>>161462361
>48-52 %ES nerfed to 43-46 %ES
I'm pretty sure it's still worth 6 passive points, it only went from 8.3 to 7.4 %ES per point on average.

Voll's Vision is so perfect for my low-life Guardian RF build. You guys think it'll be expensive at all? Seems like it wouldn't be more than a few chaos. But it is new so I dunno.

>>161462546
This is CI Blade Flurry?

>>161462694

yeah

>>161460314

Nah, i think its just

Check for crit -> check for hit -> deal damage

So the way things are going, there might be hope for a map tab. Praise Chris

We need one for div cards while you're at it.

Just when you think it can't get any better.
It does. GGG you are a marvel of a company.

Amazing.

Can we also get a divination card tab please?

TAKE MY POINTS, ALL OF THEM

Well, looks like I'm buying a supporter pack.

Looks good to me. I look forward to reading the inevitable bullshit p2w complaints.

>>161459486
that dude has thic legs for a skinny ass mofo
pls correct me and say its a gril

Deciding between Raider and Glad for max block build (both use anvil, raider needs BoR + uniques for spell block). I wish block didn't mean going phys though since there's no way to scale otherwise. Ranger gets frenzy charges/infinite attach speed, glad gets spell block and crit.

Raider Block:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBANNvLlN67wUtdO3awVoawzPUUjJOj5kEh9i9NZK18ngNbzvAGunVeTl-4ho-WGM9_IzP9kjkUVBH7w4UIF8_wQR5aKluGbQtg0Mx73oB3ItP6UaK8MSCsKsoKmKsbIydqnfj9qOlywzytMX_HG-EOq3C7IazLOm-p2VNvTZHfoTZwYIFtY2_7T831L3mPs9RRzB8jX1NkiP2o4obrS_MsbN4rk3j_o894kju034AXraKYuyE7-Is0TYJMxUgl3msrwz3qZXAv0CgGY7tgwgum40XJnqE0K1B0F9wg208vtjVAydE0qPnAhGmV_4K8kU64Q==

or Gladiator Block (with crit):
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQCAAomX9oGiyDjzV8OQ4rwhNlHfr02ZU2-p3TtBS3Tb0a3eu_yQSFgQKDAvwHcrK-plQz3d-OpbtIhkn1fPxQg7w5QR_ZIjM89_FhjwBp4DbXyNZL-j03jpld5aDrh2L3-CvJFbzuLT9d-wQeE7xiRvJ_8SxRNuR34ApL36UZyqfcy6hh2rM9-Fez464IH2Xzz3WhlOlJ-4nk5BIePmTJO2sFjFygq3CMaOJBVJy8UcZd55FGezRo-wQTp1S3SouqRzrvtEuEOPC_MwYKYb-XPWfOsqsqQgTryWhDwG6qfPmLstop08RjbFHV313SgWHUGIA==

>>161460381

Increase "damage" but no increase in survivability

Srs actually did get nerfed tough. Even if the damage stays the same, the aoe coverage will take a hit, and bosses who obliterated your SRS will still do so and fuck your dps.

Design a 2H weapon that supports socketed gems with spell totem

>>161462753
Accuracy
Accuracy measures the chance for an attack to hit. Accuracy-dependent attacks make a second accuracy check to confirm the critical strike. If the check fails only a normal hit is dealt. Thus accuracy can play an important role in quantity of critical strikes.

>>161458739
Can you please not leak my fucking build.

>>161462840

There's a low level poleaxe that has a level 20 inc aoe gem in it?

>>161458927
He's probably one of the esteemed skilled players in the closed beta program. I'm certain he knows.

>>161462683
Here's my tree. I'm new at this so feel free to tell me why I'm retarded. Obviously I'm not gonna take it to level 100 but I like filling it out all the way anyway. Last grabs would be everything near the shadow start, and the aura stuff since I'll be getting a boost for that from the guardian ascendancy.

I plan on using cyclone again since they made it a little better, with added cold and lightning to trigger EE.

So I just need a little more help on gem set-ups.

RF>IAoE>Inc Burning>Elemental Focus

Cyclone>Curse on hit>flammability>(?)

Vitality>Discipline>Herald of Thunder?>Enlighten

Blood magic>Clarity>Purity of Fire

Summon Stone Golem? They made the golems better so seems good.

Would it be better to not go so far in the tree, and instead invest into endurance charges with enduring call?

Give me a SRS life based build, I plan on running only haste

if i see ONE MORE fucking build

IM GOING TO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>161463068
God dammit.
http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAQs1AACDTwRDyGjyr2wLYcauDF8cp1OlxYp8uzrYJy-QVRo47DiFe2ZUKU-ePIx2tzHE9iftBg7UfAn2Zp760hcvJLCApB0UEmkXHHF5gpuaO5_f73w8BfnoaHTaYpSggsco-pitV8kNfOq6N4Om6yymNAo3ZrQMRnHhiB2q_knK076KkyfviPk3189JsVyK5CIabPfBna4DdZErWHdfBKcI6-6a4EWdU1LYJDbFi3oBb-L3hEhca8NtoS8ZLtlhrY3PfnasHNy4k3_GEZYOSLcw6FomiAcelS7w1UlRj_rsGHC72RMvb2TnVdaPGlugp1V8DrJwKlNildrdfmzXapIrpRhOUv0AgOCbMAAADwAAAgAH0AEB9AEAAQAAFAAA

>>161463096
poeurl.com/R8E
r8 my build

>>161463082
Run a Dancing Dervish SRS. Do it, faggot

>>161462731
Instead of Thrill Killer for 3 points I'd probably go with a single point (+1 for travel) of mana leech in the Ranger area and drop the extra point into Arcane Vision. The % leech will beat 15 mana on kill at 4k damage dealt, which isn't hard

Also if you pull 2 points out of the left side of the Scion ES wheel you can get to Written in Blood (below CI) which is trading 12% ES for 15% ES and 10 STR

Depending on what weapons you're using there's probably some other changes you can make. Also this is only a mid 70's build so you can probably spend some more points pretty safely. Not sure what else to say senpai

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAN-K6QJLrhsl2VttGRFQNbmnK5f0UlM9X5eVTLPQH-_rRX4OXGr6IvRsC5MnvoqhL3_GwcXsGCy_FdeGrlZjdFX56ILH-TfviNfPSbGDCUZxDXzquij6tAzK01fJGGWQ1p7Epr6YrRzcjxrr7iymN2Y0CqcIna4abPfBA3WRK1h3XwSPRh0UEmkXHHF5m6H314RIXGvDbayY8Ww22EkbKo3sVSGwNPeXhS6U2CRWSMBmPAXvfK3xGF0872jymjuf34Kb1abtPFM1UEJresi_RlL8TJD6321Mi-9LVEeMNriTXfLkIl8qKwoRLw==

who /hardcore ladder push/ here?

>>161463082
>I plan on running only haste
why bother then

at least run generosity with hatred

>>161463160
Is there a Dancing Dervish build that isn't just a worse version of the non-DD build? The minion seems to just do nothing useful.

>>161463304

brilliant

this is actually amazing

thanks bro

>check reddit
>it's all threads about ziggyd's twitter

fuck offff

>essence garbage thrown onto temp leagues
>the most convoluted system in the game that warrants it's own special stash tab
>just buy our tabs goyim
I knew they were going to add it to the base game and everyone on here was like they'll never do that! They do whatever reddit tells them to no matter how autistic it is.

>>161463449
No
Dominating Blow, maybe?

>>161463127
>r8
>R8E
What did he mean by this?

How long before frenzy charges get nerfed?

>>161463683
With any luck it will be right after power charges

assassin BF or Raider BF with a bunch of frenzy charges and perma onslaught/phasing?

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Blade Flurry Inquisitor
Blade Flurry Phys Assassin
SRS Life
SRS CI
Slayer + some meme
CoC memes

send help

BLADEVORTEX GOES FROM 10 HITS A SEC TO 5 AT 20 STACKS
WHAT THE FUCK GGG

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>>161464107
simple deductive theory can be applied here

>life
shit
>phys
shit
>memes
shit
>melee
shit
>coc
shit

all you're left with is flurry, inquisitor, assassin, SRS, CI

so either CI flurry inquisitor/assassin, or CI SRS necro

i'd go with CI SRS necro because of the SRS buffs and because flurry is best played as raider

>>161464207
>why is my op as fuck skill not op as fuck anymore
:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

>>161464207
It does 25% MORE dps at max stacks.

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>>161464431
>>161464373
FUCK OFF

>>161464478
It depends, does the first stack count towards the 10% faster casting and 30% more damage? If no, then that graph is correct.

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>unusual pupils
>chastity belt
>orgasm denial
>femdom
>handjob
>sole female
>cbt

anime retards need to be obliterated from this general

>>161464873

>male:anal
>-yaoi
>chastity

>>161464873
do you just have a thing for unusual pupils or is it in literally every hentai and thus unavoidable?

>>161464312
>flurry is best played as raider
no
the raider """""buffs"""""" are just some qol changes, assassin is the go-to ascendancy for BF unless you're stupid as fuck

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>>161465390
Mostly the first thing.

>>161465390
it's obvious he has a thing for (You.)s and nothing else

>>161465684
>an anime poster wants attention
Geee, Chuck, who wulda thunk dat???!?

>>161465548

?

explain

I started playing last league and i wanted to try AW this league.

I'm kinda confused about its status now though.
First theres -10% damage, but buffed totem nodes, so im guessing this one is not too bad?

And then theres this range bugfix and the +10 to range, how does this play it?

Is it now a lot weaker/slower or even better?

>>161465874
it's not "a lot weaker" and it hits further now

overall it's still very strong skill

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>>161427002
>free
>>161433769
>free
>>161440191
>free
>>161440429
>free
>>161442224
>free
>>161443270
>free
>>161444267
>free
>>161444853
>free
>>161448406
>free
>>161448747
>free
>>161449034
>free
>>161451698
>free
>>161429494
>F R E E

How hard is it to craft a 500 ES hybrid chest?

Is it feasible at the start of a league?

>>161466015
The thread wasn't the same without you

>>161466018
you can get lucky at any point of the league

then again you might want to think twice before using all your currency trying to roll such a thing instead of waiting for someone to sell such a piece

Are the blade flurry nerfs significant enough so you can actually use a non BF build and not feel bad that you're not using the super OP skill?

Will SRS still be a decent dried lake farmer?

>>161466214
They're insignificant. You won't be able to offscreen without some investment but that's it, you won't feel anything different when it comes to damage.

Can someone who has played FB totems tell me how it feels?

From the looks of it you basicly are already at the next pack when your first fb triggers, doesnt this make you go back and forth all the time if you want to pick up currency, or even worse, rares?

>>161466535
then don't go forward?
place your totem to kill the next pack and pick up whatever garbage loot you want from the dead pack

>>161466624
Well, i understand that's an option, but doestn this make mapping with fb totem kinda slow? I need to wait the 1 second until the blast explodes on every pack, while i can just shoot with split arrows or whatever once and everything is dead.

What i'm asking is what are the benefits to fb totem that offset the slowness?

Is it mostly safety and very good single target damage with conc effect?

>>161466535
just chill back then?

you don't have to replicate everything you saw on youtube/streams

patch 2.5 thread has 2k comments on reddit

is the game growing or is it just a sign of the patch being such a shitshow even reddit is throwing a tantrum

>>161466785
you don't wait
you put another totem down and pick up loot
then you do it again
as in while you're picking up loot your totems are killing stuff.
otherwise if you don't want the loot you run onslaught and vaal haste to sprint through the maps with your totems.

If you wanna play bow then play bow desu

>>161466964
I absolutly dont want to play bow.

I want to play either AW or fb totems sinc i've never done it, just wanted some input on how they feel

thanks anon

>>161466929
have you compared it with other league patch note posts
i'm not going to because i don't care about reddit, but it would be a starting point

>The "of Stasis" mod that previously prevented player life and mana regeneration will now also prevent energy shield regeneration.

What a nightmare

>>161467019
Sure, for reference:
2.5 patch notes: 2k+ comments in 10 hours
r/pathofexile/comments/5fmigg/content_update_250_patch_notes/

2.4 patch notes: 664 comments
r/pathofexile/comments/50egb3/path_of_exile_240_atlas_of_worlds_patch_notes/

2.3 patch notes: 713 comments
r/pathofexile/comments/4m052f/23_patch_notes/

2.2 patch notes: 1473 comments
r/pathofexile/comments/48pude/path_of_exile_220_ascendancy_patch_notes/

>>161465861
Check out Mathils stream. He used a Bino's and hit 95% crit with barely any investment, and could do almost all but the absolute hardest content on a 5-link.

>>161467174
are the comments mostly "lol ggg"?

>>161467174

Well we did get the chinks and the ruskies rolled into the main servers.

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>Reduced the damage of the bosses in the Overgrown Ruin map and chaos Warbands leaders in general.
Was this really needed? Now every single t15 boss is a joke. They overnerfed Malachai. Kaom and Daresso seem to have reduced health now too. There is literally no challenge left to be found in t15s, it's a bunch of joke bosses and then you move to t16s and guardians rape you because they have 10 times the health and damage of t15 loot pinatas. What is the design process of t15s being easy mode and t16s being HARD MODE FUCK YOUR NON COOKIE CUTTER BUILD?

RT BF raider?

poeurl.com/SeK

>>161467606
wait, do you want it hard or would you have t16 nerfed aswell?

>>161467696
I want it to be consistent. Either you reduce the difficulty of guardians or you bring up t15 bosses more in line with difficulty appropriate for what is just a tier below. Right now I'm not sure there's much of a point farming t15s when maps like Core or Colosseum have notoriously bad monster density and you don't get much out of them except some ilvl 84 crafting bases.

Why was Blade Flurry pretty much left as it is?

These changes do nothing to it.

Shouldn't it be easy to make a Raider labrunner?

Something like this:

poeurl.com/SeZ

Uniques would be:

Hezmanas
Devotos
Snakebite
Kaom's Way

>>161467962
They want to gather data on channeling skills, so they need people to use them

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NERDS POST YOUR PAINT TREES IF YOU WANT A COLLAGE U FUCKIN NERDS

>>161468009
I mean, such a Raider could run lab sure, but there is nothing about the ascendancy itself that shines for lab farming, a Pathfinder would still be faster with Nature's Adrenaline, a Slayer still gets the mega cull for phase 3, and a Juggernaut gets 14 ms, end charges and can shrug off all traps

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>>161468028
idk what the supposed golem jewel is but maybe it's an extra golem

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>>161468028

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Can someone with experience in melee range give me their thoughts on AW totems new range?

They fixed some bug where the point where it's attack started was far out from its actualy range, on the other hand it got +10 range.

They also said they increased the range of all melee weapons, we dont know by how much though.

Let's hypotheticly say 2h axes go from 7 range to 10, that makes 20 melee range for aw (22 with disfavour)

The aw tooltip also says " Modifiers to area radius affect both the range at which the totem strikes, as well as the radius of the attack."

so with a +39% radius from increased aoe gem we're looking at close to 30 range and the aoe of the attack splashes out of that?

Did i get anything wrong here?

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>>161468028

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>>161453727
>Cyclone got buffed significantly

WE ALL GOOD MAN

Still gonna go with CI Fireball next season. Ignite immunity is gonna fuck me in the ass but shit looks cash either way. And I've wanted a proper Fireball build since shotgun nerf, something about hurling a giant ball of fire at things just feel good.

>>161468028
Mine is already in there, the BV (1480376670578)
But i don't know if it's still viable
You thoughts on this /poeg/ ?

>>161468689
>giant ball

If %increased aoe actually increased the size of the fireball, it would be my league build as well. Come to think of it, Lightning ball would also be fun if it increased the projectile size, too.

>>161468694
i'll delete it if you like, just let me know desu

>>161468562
>Did i get anything wrong here?
Yes, you made the assumption weapon range affected AW targeting range when it doesn't, kind of a big deal. This is true for basically all AoE skills, with Cyclone being a notable exception.

AW range gets reduced to 10 in 2.5 which is honestly miserable. You can increase both the range and radius with AoE increases but realistically that makes it a strictly Conc Effect tier melee totem now, as it should have been from the start.

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COMMUNITY: Melee is bad.
GGG: We have have rewritten the dictionary to compensate.
COMMUNITY: ES is OP.
GGG: We nerfed Armor in maps.
COMMUNITY: ES is OP.
GGG: We nerfed Evasion in maps.
COMMUNITY: What about Talisman and Perandus?
GGG: We continue to hope you forget Talisman and Perandus ever happened.
COMMUNITY: We found one Mjölner build that's fun.
GGG: We nerfed Mjölner for everyone to address this.
COMMUNITY: ES is OP.
GGG: We nerfed flasks.
COMMUNITY: ES is OP.
GGG: We nerfed Energy From Within by an insignificant amount.
COMMUNITY: Some people used SRS in past leagues.
GGG: We nerfed the fuck out of it.
COMMUNITY: Blade Flurry and Blight are unbalanced.
GGG: Thank you for being our QA department.
COMMUNITY: Raider sucks.
GGG: We buffed all the stuff that won't improve survivability in any way.
COMMUNITY: ES is OP.
GGG: We nerfed Pathfinder.
COMMUNITY: WTF?
GGG: We love ES and hope you play an ES build this league. Doing anything else would be stupid.

It only had a higher range previously because of this bug thing right?

What range did that bug make it have? Just so i can compare the 10 range the skill has now to the ? range it previously had

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>>161468847
Ignored most unused skills ? Check
Terrible response to feedback regarding the new skills ? Check
Shitty life\es balance untouched ? Check
Item rebalance ignored again ? Check
Wew lad
Conversation in GGG office :
" Remember those Grand Spectrum jewels ? We hit the spot on two of them and no one is using them, but apparently one of them is actually used !
Isn't that one like 15 ex to set up due to our genius rarity tier ?
Yes it is but these people are still using it, we can't let that happen !
So what do we do ?
Stop Nick from his Sisyphus task of rebalancing 2 uniques every 3 months and get him working on this !
Nick gets summoned
So what it will be gentlemen ?
You see this jewel ? Just fuck it's shit up
Say no more senpai "

dumb redditposters

>>161468913
was meant for
>>161468816

>>161468847
>50% of top 100 characters in EHC were life-based. Who do you trust more, reddit's echo chamber or the actual top players too busy playing to be shitposting about presumed balance disparities?

>>161468759
With the current projectile mechanics where they get stuck on the tiniest pebble on the ground, I'm kind of happy they don't honestly.

>>161468913
>It only had a higher range previously because of this bug thing right?
Apparently
>What range did that bug make it have?
No idea, I never played it, from watching videos it was at least a 15 according to your picture

>>161468816
Where can i read up on targeting range vs weapon range? I don't really understand the difference and the wiki page of AW doesnt say anything about it

>>161469129
I don't know, it's more of a general hidden mechanic that weapon range doesn't affect such AoE skills, Cyclone being the exception as mentioned previously where both weapon range + AoE will scale its coverage

Google the mechanics and you'll probably find some post by Mark explaining it

>>161469191
Alright, thanks a lot!

Guess i'm not gonna go aw after all

>>161466929
>browses reddit

>>161468796
Do it, i'm going something else i think

I never played Cyclone and raider got a huge buff but i'm not sure if it could clear all endgame content.

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I'm thinking about flameblast totems, and i'm currently debating between elementalist and inquisitor.

Mostly looking at this thread

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1730745

where the guy makes dps comparisons for bosses and inqui has like double the dps of elementalist.

Did he leave out relevant information or is inquisitor really that superior?

>>161469513
If it doesn't it should be pretty easy to convert it to BF

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>see changes to raider
>run some numbers on a double Hyaon's Fury cyclone raider with 10 charges
>get some absolutely retarded dps values

I mean, if you're ok with taking 60% increased damage, why not...

>>161469695
I don't care enough to verify his math, but he's casually ignoring Elementalist can get 75% pen with Mastermind of Discord and EE. Just use something like Lightning Trap to actually trigger it as a dual totem build.

>>161468689
Damn nice.
I was actually thinking of running a fireball build myself, anyone got any viable fireball builds?

>>161469951
you can always link the cyclone with fortify

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SOON

>>161469031
It's literally just lightning strike and maybe cold spell that have this problem.

are 2 warden's rings enough (+meg and rare amy) for a facebreaker build if I'm going to ditch abyssus?

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>Maps no longer can have monsters with several endurance, frenzy and power charges
>Claws of the Magpie got even shittier
>Claws are even shittier

L A M O
A
M
O

>>161470109
Nice 9.6% ZO CI regen build bro, don't forget to use a marble amulet for 11.2% total

>>161470109
>Ascendant
?????

>>161470178
nobody cares if claws are shit
everyone will be using the scourge anyway

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>>161468028

>>161470224
Make that 10.8% you actually took templar regen nodes

>>161469971
Thanks, it seems EE is not really used for elementalist builds though (mainly looking at the raiz's one)

>>161469695

>Inquisitor has massive damage thanks to resistance penetration

Ignore this guys post, he has no clue what he is talking about. Inquisitor has resistance NEGATION. Not penetration unless he actually does not want to crit and aims for that 10% for noncrit.

In which case pendulum and discord are way better.

Speaking of ZO, does Stone golem's HP regen apply to ES with it?

>>161470069

Mathil does :^)

>>161470361
And this matters because inquisitor can not get the enemies to negative resistances since its only negation?

Does this matter though? Won't high end bosses have overcapped resists so inquisitor sets their resistance to 0% on crit, while any kind of penetration elementalist has is not enough to even get close to 0?

>>161470109
>all those jewel sockets skipped
>no melding cluster
>zero mana nodes in a totem build
>actually picking scion aoe nodes
??????

>>161470362
yes

>>161470362
yes

>>161470461
>Won't high end bosses have overcapped resists
Not only is this unlikely, this is now how penetration works. Penetration applies to actual total resistances, it doesn't care about any overcap. This is why a regular Atziri empowered flameblast with fire pen can and will one-shot most builds, overcapped resistances or not.

what about... a bv slayer with ci, pact and gr?

>>161470571
I see, thanks for the clarification, but still, assuming high end bosses than just have maxed resistances, even if the lementalist invests into EE+discord it still only get's 75% penetration which results in the same 0% inquisitor has, or am i wrong here?

>>161456449
>>161456383
You're fine with chayula as well. Or the ring that makes stun based on your ES.

>>161470178
To be fair some monsters and totems give frenzy charges to their allies so you can still steal those :^)

>>161470421
>Nerfed facebreakers
>Still gonna be the best crit glove since no shadows and dust because no rampage on Zana lol

I mean, I guess
Something about his tree bothers me though

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>>161470109
Fixed

>>161470654
Yes, inquisitor is generally the better ascendancy for general mapping because it doesn't concern itself with most map mods giving monster resistance. I disagree with the argument of it being strictly superior vs bosses. The lower a boss resistance is, the less effective it becomes to lower it to zero instead of penetrating it into the negative.

>>161470774
I see, i looked it up and actually most of the t15 bosses only have like 30% fire resistance, so if you would run EE that'd be much more damage than inquisitor.

Regarding EE though: You need to run lightning trap or something to trigger it, but how does this actually work mechanicly?

Do i have to hit the boss with a lightning trap hit after EVERY flameblast from one of my totems hit to prevent it into getting +50% to fire from it?

because that sounds really impracticable

>>161470461

Because all crits wont use penetration as it will calculate monster resistances as 0 no matter your pen.

Elementalist can still dump monster resists far into the negative.

Elemental Equilibrium 50%
Elem curse 39% (23% against bosses)
Flamability 44% (26% against bosses)
Fire pen 37%
Discord from elementalist 25% (just use lightning warp for movement)

That would be a total of 161% reduced fire resist on a boss. I doubt anything has 161% total resist in the game.

>tfw your dirt cheap shaper viable league starting build didn't get affected in any way

>>161470708

Why not maligaros?

>>161471029
Post secret build

>>161470957
Oh, i totally forgot about the curses. Thanks, i see it now.

But the same question too: How do i make EE not give +fire res with all these flameblasts i cant directly control flying around?

>>161470926

Trap + orb of storms and call it a day.

>>161471029

Nothing except blade vortex got really affected. Poison rangers will still wreck face.