XCOM General - /xcg/

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Collaborators must die

2nd for Alex Jones

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>>161325571

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Pistols are Useful.

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>>161325395
6th for rulers

Can you get Reaper in AWC in vanilla game or is this because of one mods?

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VALKYRIA MODS NEVER.

>>161325571
>the only thing we'll need for a alex jones voice pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4GYyJwYjQ

>>161325784

They ARE balanced. Without reactions, they'd need a gorillion hit points and more damage to be a credible threat.

>>161326009
>ruler apologists

>>161326127
t. casual

>>161325543

"Sir, they... They carved 'VC' into her forehead. We don't -"

"It means 'Vigilo Confido'. You're too young to remember those words."

>>161326158
t. advent sympathiser

>>161325684
>I am but a humble water's salesman...

>>161326127
They are supposed to be a boss unit, and are "balanced" as such. Also meant for "experienced" players and not someones first play-through.

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>>161326283
It is the right thing to do

Is there a happy midpoint between the endless overwatch-spam of EU and the alpha-strike-or-bust hyper-power creep of XCOM2? Do any mods help with either?

>>161327506
EW

>>161325864

Why would you want that?

I played around 20 minuets of Valkyria Chronicles and one of the main characters said "I don't want war to just be about killing people"

>alt f4

>>161327506

X2 with more pods and larger pods, and extended or True Concealment-style timers.

>>161327697
>one of the main characters said "I don't want war to just be about killing people"
Is this supposed to be bizarre or unbelievable?

>>161326630
>>161325543
Is there any downside to killing Dark VIPs rather than capturing them?

I've never killed one, now that I think of it.

>>161327891
No Intel

>>161327891
You don't get the intel reward

>>161327869

In a strategy game, absolutely.

Especially since elimination of enemy personnel was literally the objective of the mission that game right before that line.

>>161328153
>human characters in a strategy game
I suppose that would be going to far

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I wonder what happened to Delta two in canon

>>161328541

I have an X2 soldier based on him

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Who is the best AYY/ADVENT to Dominate?

I nominate Shieldbearer.

>Can shield team from Alien ruler bullshit
>Can stand him out of cover like a tankier mimic beacon.

I can't think of an AYY more useful

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>>161328541
>>161328629

He had a hard life.

>>161329674
post more hard life operators!

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>>161330972
dog bless

>>161330561
looking good

>>161329674
>Argentina

Based

>>161327506
LW

Playing long schlong, there's a weird glitch that keeps occurring ,it starts fine but 3 or 4 missions in using grenades or firing will cause a CTD
Loading a previous save fixes it , but soon as I get to the current mission it starts again
Playing dynamic with a bunch of other options in

Why do people put that radio effect in voice packs? It drops the quality of them significantly imo

>>161333921
>radio effect in voice packs
So that it sounds like the voices are coming through a radio? It also makes a bunch of voices (modded and vanilla) mix together better and not be at odds with each other.

>>161330561
man reshade makes those burns look a whole lot worse

So somewhere along the way I got 6 superior repeaters, and I just unlocked "armed to the teeth" for the third weapon slot.

How good really would +15% chance on EVERYONE be to execute on every one of my troops.

>>161335138
Very good, repeaters are excellent.

Are there any good youtube playthrouhs I can look into? I've been trying to get the motivation to pick up X2 again.

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No ones imported TF2 models yet ?
Killing ayys with heavy and soy would be the shit

>>161325684
Are all male republican tv personalities fat?

>>161335547
Someone ported models and left it at that.

No animations so they're permanently stuck in that T-pose

>>161336395
its an aesthetic my man

>>161334770
That comes down to me making her skin as pale as humanely possible because I like when it sticks out like that rather than the ReShade tbqh

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>this fucking guy

>>161339253
yeesh

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nepgen/ send it's regards.

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>playing scrims with team on overwatch
>other team is wrecking us
>shotcaller fucking goes off and yells at our dps
>everybody pissed at each other
>supports/tanks talking about kicking folks behind closed doors
>mfw
I just want to play some cozy-ass XCOM man, why the fuck did I sign up for this other shit

/blogpost

>>161326009
>>161326127
>>161326158
i took them down without significant injuries on my first commander playthrough since the dlc went live, before that i had a long break.
imo above all else i was extremely lucky to always battle scan them somewhere in the fow and i still had the freedom of no active pods(tm) to overwatch trap them hard.
Another thing that prolly helped was me delaying the vahlen missions until t3 armor and weapons, so i guess i had an advantage in firepower too.

But still, the fucking reactions after EVERY SINGLE MOVE is bretty goddamn annoying. Fucking cheating ayys

>>161341932
Proper Nep rips when? I need Neptune in my A-Team

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>>161341932
nepcom is bestcom

>>161335138
i think marbozir has a whole compilation video of several minutes of repeater shenanigans

>>161342578
>tfw the modder working on body ports has gone quiet

>>161339358
>/xcg/ is always half awake

>>161342528
Ports, putting models from other games is ports
Rips is putting the models off the game

>>161325973
Why limit it to just that, they'd so much more out there.
https://youtu.be/GInZ4oQhhzE

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[MUFFLED AYY INTENSIFIES]

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>>161342843

A lot of modders have gone quiet now.

>>161346173
Must be Christmas

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>>161345543

Living by the Hit % does weird things to you.

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>>161346072

IT GOT BETTER

>>161329674
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>>161332575
are theyever happy

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>>161346747

AND BETTER

[angry Commander noises]

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>>161347121
I have a few happy operators, yeah

I just bought the game and found out that psi operatives need to be rookies

how am i supposed to even play now

>>161347243
Enjoy your free psi-gods? They only take time, they don't need experience.

>>161347121

Voloshin is happy when he's murdering ayys, and when he's knocking back vodka in the bar with his old comrades. His father (another soldier who rolled the same last name) was with him in my LW campaign, but died in the 20 years since.

>>161347193
well thats good gotta have dudes like that even out the doom and gloom
>>161347716
damn did you write up a neat bio for them
>>161330972
also whos this dude and why are they upset?

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"Are you sure you should be smoking your cigars here?"

"Doc put you up to this, didn't he?"

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>>161347969
>also whos this dude
>whos this due
>whos this

>>161347969

I'm a writefag, so yeah. Had a backstory for them in LW, then wrote up a little thing about them forming a militia in Russia after the fall of XCOM.

>>161348151
must have missed this

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>>161347969
>well thats good gotta have dudes like that even out the doom and gloom
Ayye, but Bradford's taking it a bit too far. Look at that smug piece of shit. PEOPLE ARE DYING, JOHN

>>161347969
>who's this dude
Part of the /xcg/ pantheon. I don't have the story image, but I'm sure somebody else does

>>161348024
Superior image quality 1440p represent

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>>161348318

>>161348203
nicely done giving a campaign some flavor is always fun.
>>161348318 damn he is smug

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What are advent burgers made of?

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>>161348894
that burger has nothing on it leave it to snakes to have shit taste

>>161348787

I can't help BUT add flavor to my campaigns, it's a compulsion. I have a character pool with about 40 soldiers, all with their own detailed and intersecting backstories in the bios. I've considered putting it up for download, but it feels sort of like a hobo's attempt at "modding".

>>161349163
up to you man i just like seeing peoples operatives

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>>161330006
I just found out she's been in my barracks since the beginning.
Benched her without a glance due to the purple hair.
Fuck

>she's got the 'cheerful' disposition

>>161339253
Which?
Negative-nancy or the dick-suckers?

>>161350026
>2004
>Ranking officer in XCOM
something's not adding up

>>161350289
it's canon that XCOM employed child soldiers to combat the alien threat

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>>161350289

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Baglru in ten-ish hours maybe

Is there a somewhat balanced mod that adds an infantry class to xcom 2?

I like assault rifles
but I don't like specialists

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>>161352340

Le YES

What is the best mission type and why is it eliminate target? (Capture or kill enemy vip)

>>161355563
>killing collaborators
That's why.

Also captcha was "Poste Julian", what's that dick doing here?

>>161355935
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS POSTER, I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY HE IS A ROBOT AND NOT A HUMAN

>>161350289
Never usually edit backstories but I always go in and change the birthdate for my LW survivors. I'm Surprised Firaxis let it slip through.

>>161355563
>go to capture the vip
>move sniper up onto the roof the vip is under
>oh shit I activated 2 sectoids and a viper like a retard
>better use the fire bombs

And that is how I burned the dark VIP to death without ever seeing what he looked like

>>161348894
the removed testicles of everyone who tries copping a feel from sneks

>>161349103
Christ, I think I had a heartattack just looking at that junk.

>>161358748
>junk
dont you have some carrots to nibble on or something

I see some of you have already infiltrated the "How do I protect myself from ayys" thread on /k/:
>>>/k/32142119

>>161349103
Why do you continue to post this overcooked bacon, heathen?

>>161360287
its cherry wood it looks like that believe me it wasn't overcooked

>>161360287
>>161358748
Fuck is wrong with you? That looks delicious, and I'm a /fit/izen

can a good anon hand me some good soldier builds for xcom 2?

>>161362558
what do you mean?

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>Install A Better Advent, run multiple campaigns with it
>It adds a decent number of new units, gets along pretty well with the Long Dong Alien pack, and is challenging without being unfair
>Mod author will no longer be working on it, says to download ABA2

>Install A Better Advent 2
>Hey, only 2 months into your campaign? ENTIRE DROPSHIP OF ADVENT COMMANDERS AND COMMISSARS
>Wanna try doing the Human Soup facility mission? BERZERKERS EVERYWHERE
>Oh, you installed ABA2 alongside More Mission Types? HAHA, YOU FOOL, enjoy 3 dropships of booty lancers, demolitionists, and shield bearers!

God damn, I'm playing on Normal difficulty and I'm still getting my shit pushed in on each mission. This shit it brutal. Great mod though, no doubt there.

>>161363097
which perks are good and which ones are subpar compared to the other

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>>161352340
>first L&L in exactly a year
>beagle not sure what to do sometimes
>but still proxy mines everywhere

Oh man I miss this ride.

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>>161342528
>>161345674

Is someone actually working on a full-body nep port?

>>161363317
How's it in terms of compatibility?

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>>161363975
Yes
Just not for Xcom2 and i need to fix the textures

>>161364818
delta? are you cheating on us?

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Would you try the Thin Mint Surprise?

>first advent blacksite mission
>only some of my best operatives available but I decide to do it anyway with a five-man team
>best specialist with the medkits gets stunned unconscious by a 2-hitpoints attack from stun trooper
>things go well after that, get to the side of the main building without too much trouble
>MEC/troopers patrol walks into my overwatch from inside the building, after my turn there's only one trooper left
>3 sectoids walk into sight from the front
>Grenadier I sent to flank the trooper triggers a muton and 2 more sectoids
>get them to climb the ladders hoping I can hold them back and get a better position from the roof

i'd like to say it was a glorious last stand but they simply did their best.

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Bumping before going to sleep because americans can not be trusted to keep thread alive

>>161363317
>modder knows fuck all about balancing
and so life continues

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>>161368008
t. shitter-anon who bitches about rulers literally every thread

>>161368307
t. anon that thinks they know jack about balance

>>161368765
Is there a better perk in LW than CCS? Cant think of one myself other than maybe LR

my long war base defense gets triggered way too late into my campaign

it hits me in March of the 2nd year

and just swarms me with a bunch of high end enemies

plus I get RNG'ed to death with shitty troops from the beginning of the defense and just snowballed from there

Made me rage quit and edited the CoreGame.ini

fuck you Johny Lump you fucking sadistic nigger

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>tfw vanilla is so easy it gives you free rockets when you mess up

>>161370757
Good to see that bugs are in fact a tradition and not only in X2

>Commander a UFO has us locked on
>We need to do emergency maneuvers
>only five territories not controlled
>moves on territory over
>sits there
>UFO takes its sweet time coming at me

What a joke.

How do I get to that camera setting to see the avenger in first person? I know you need a controller but I can't seem to figure it out

>>161368887
hit n run is the best perk hands down, heatammo close second

Where is Beags stream schedule? I can't find it

>>161373924
It's a debug camera. Check the xcom 2 page for instructions and you can also download a mod to use it with a keyboard as well.

>>161375895
He streams starting around 4pm-5pm Pacific time on Thursday (random game, lately overwatch or infested planet).
He begins his Firaxis sponsored stream at 5 - 6 pm Pacific time on Friday (only Firaxis games, currently Civ6 while on XCOM hiatus) and ends at around 10pm.
He streams DnD on both Saturday (sci-fi) and Sunday (fantasy) starting at some time I can't remember, but I want to say beginning about 3 - 4 pm Pacific.

>>161375895
thursday thru sunday, usually around 6 mountain time.

>Hit a MEC with Bluescreen rounds
>Hack Chance stays the same

Did they even playtest this game during development?

>>161373164
xenonauts?

>Start a new game
>My team is all black women
This feels weird for some reason

>>161368887
>>161374737
Best perk in the game is suppression, hands down. Useful the second you get it, doesn't require a special unit/build to use well, and effective for the entire game.

>>161350209
Negative nancy because I am a E3245 fan

>>161377757
what are a racist or something do i need to report you

>>161377757
I remember I had my little racially diverse squad of scrubs and I though to myself "I want some fraternal twins from germany, make em all spiky with the skull helmets, and assaults too!"

And I just selected two rookies and started morphing them and this little scene popped into my head where these two random people came up to XCOM and enlisted but where told "You can' fight for xcom, but first you are no longer black or french and btw you're a man now.. Now go head of for assualt training"

>>161378650
I just imagined that you blink and reality shifts.

One moment you're just a random girl from Germany and a second later you're EXALT Ted Cruz with a robot arm.

I'm still not too sure why I made him EXALT

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>>161378650

>>161379039
The meld XCOM... They belong too me, the true humanist!

>>161379619
I even wrote him a stupid biography about how he wants to destroy ADVENT because they killed his delegates.

His first mission involved him missing a 92% shot and then panicking after getting shot by an ADVENT captain. At least he got his shit together in subsequent missions.

>>161379737
>At least he got his shit together in subsequent missions.
Just like the redemption ark

Help lads how does the character pool work?

I made a qt burnt italian girl but she is not showing up amongst the potential recruits

>>161380364
go into the character pool
at the bottom there is an option on how you want the game to handle it
some character pool and some randoms
Character pool only
random only

if the game rans out of characters in the pool then it will use randoms only

Havent messed with xcom in forever, are they working on long war for xcom 2 yet?

I remember when xcom 2 was first coming out there was so much talk about how its more mod friendly so the inevitable long war 2 would be amazing, but looking at the mod list i dont see shit about it.

>>161380364
They'll turn up eventually depending on which box you have ticked. And if you tick a certain box they can appear as engineers or VIP's you need to escort out or capture/kill

>>161328925
andros, by far

>>161371965

It's not a but.

It's a Feature.

Gatecrasher really loses its magic after you do it for the thousandth time

>>161381964
>Gatecrasher
>you're not crashing into gates

JAAAKE!?!

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>>161364984
Not me. I'm doing more important things

Why did they go for using already made faces instead of a face creator like many other games? This game has a great customization, but only having 6 faces(and AFAIK modding faces is hard as shit) really brings it down. If it had like, Saints Row tier customization it would be much, much more amazing

>crashed ufo mission
>the entire thing has no los
>every full cover wall is flanked

thanks jake, thankfully i brought 4 war suits and flashbangs

>>161362074
>implying I want to hear the opinion of someone who orgasms with every squat

>>161381062
the long war 2 team released several modular addons which are not quite long war 2 but getting there

>>161382872
their animation rigging system can't handle it yet

>>161384418
Is this why also there isn't lip syncing? I'm not a computer expert so do you know why can't it handle it? It's not like these things are new to the gaming or anything, both of them have been in shitload of games

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Thinking bout whether I should buy this or not before the sale ends. I liked Enemy Unknown. I should buy this, right?

>>161387574
nigga this game is amazing

seriously

>>161387574
It can be buggy at times and can suffer from fps issues here and there but if that doesn't bother you then yes definitely.

There's enough mods out there to tweak the game however you like. The dlcs are worth getting too but only if you're getting it in a bundle. Don't buy them individually

Low level snipers make me want to kill myself

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>>161388992
Because they mad dange?

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>>161388992
>Sniper Prime murdered
>Time for sniper junior to step up
>"Sniper Junior what is your chance to hit that sectiod?"
>40%
>Through holo targeting
>With the High ground
>On a flanking shot
>While equipped with Sniper Prime's death cannon said to be forged by the bloody hand of Khaine himself
>tfw

The only solider I've ever retrained out of disgust.
Worked out in the end, Sniper Omega brought into replace Sniper Junior could practically bend bullets around corners and crit anything out of high cover at 1000 yards.

>>161387574
I'd suggest XCOM 2, but wait a second first. You're talking about liking EU, have you not played EW yet?

>>161390596
>Forged
>Khaine

>>161392775
IT WAS JUST THAT GOOD ANON
FORGED WHEN His INCARNATION WHERE NOT BEING USED AS CANNON FODDER FOR THE ULTRAMaRINES
DEATH IN PLASMA FORM
RAGE AND VENGEANCE DELIVERABLE FROM HEMISPHERE TO HEMISPHERE
A SCOPE THAT COULD SEE INTO SOULS
A HAIR TRIGGER SO DELICATE IT REPLICATED ARCHON BATTLE FRENZY
AND REPEATER SO ACTIVE IT REPAINTED THE WEAPON RED WITH BLOOD
IF ONLY I COULD MASS PRODUCE THEM AND GIVE ONE TO EVERY SOLDIER
I'D MOUNT THEM BY THE DOZEN TO FIREBRAND
I'D USE THEM TO OUTFIGHT BATTLESHIPS

AND THIS FUCKING CORPORAL WIELDED IT LIKE A FUCKING POOL NOODLE
]

>>161394001
Vaul is the Eldar forge god, not Khaine.

Besides,
>Forged by a filthy, heretical xeno god that also smells bad

Should have gone with Vulkan.

>>161394136
P sure Vual is dead senpai and Vulkan is reforming in Ultrama's atmosphere or some shit?

>>161394226
And Khaine is shattered into a fuckton of pieces.

>>161394245
>believing the Eldar's lies

>>161394471
>Not studying on how xenos are inferior to humanity

I'd gladly betray the Emperor for a qt Farseer gf

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>>161394634
>this is what the mon'kieg believe

>>161394704
based

BAGEL ALERT

BAGEL ALERT

LIVE AND IMPOSSIBLE IS HERE

>>161395649
>not posting the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H4DQ9bER64

I'm playing xcom 2 for the first time now

Who the fuck thought rulers were a good idea?

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>>161397404
retards of course
it would totally fine if they only reacted to damage but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>161397404
Protip: Rulers suck, don't activate their mission until you have a fully decked out squad to save you suffering.

>>161397404
What, did you also do Shen's Last Gift with ballistic weapons too?

>>161397548
Thing is I already did and this blue sausage keeps stalking me

>>161397612
Sorry my man I did not know the game was going to drop the equivalent of a sectopod on day 10

>>161397665
Reload a save before you did the mission, or start tossing repeaters on every soldier.

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>>161397612
It's doable so long as you're a save-fag.
Really though, that's ridiculous balancing. You'd only WANT sparks if you get them early-game, and then they tend to fall off in effectiveness quick.

>>161397548
My only real complaint about rulers are that new players aren't warned properly that they shouldn't activate them until they have at least mag weaponry. Leave players the choice to activate it early for a challenge, but let shitters know they shouldn't be popping it early if they're not prepared

>>161398349
The Commander (Vigilo Confido) held off Sectopods and Muton Elites with only ballistics for a whole month

If you're afraid of some special snowflake ayys it must mean you're not the Commander (Vigilo Confido), but rather an ayy infiltrator

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>>161399486
This guy gets it

>>161399486
The commander held off the ayys with balistics but he didn't have TIMERS to fuck him over senpai.
He put the planet on overwatch for however long it took to breed millions of lightning reflexes nids.

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ALRIGHT FOLKS, need some consensus.

Haven't played XCOM 2 since beating a couple campaigns on release.

Which DLC's should I get?
How was Shen's Last Gift? How was Alien Hunters? How about the cosmetics?

>>161401252
>Shen's last gift
Interesting, somewhat difficult mission if tackled early, gives you Sparks which are basically MEC's, but castrated of all the fun and damage
>Ayy hunters
Finally some difficulty into the easy game, scrubs who can't git gud will cry that they're OP

>>161401575
This, basically. Anarchy's Children basically boils down to looking at the store page. If you say "shit, this looks fun for some gimmick soldiers", pick it up. If you think it looks awful leave it.

>>161401252

I liked all the DLCs. More stuff is always nice, and I don't agree that the balance is bullshit (except for the SPARKs being too weak). Check out the cosmetics from AC first. I love them, many others hate them.

>gas grenades are extremely effective against organic enemies, slowing them down and dealing damage over time!
>chryssalids are immune
I can't believe I wasted a core on this.

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>>161396526
YES
YES
YES

>>161401575
>>161403704
Ayy hunters seems to have 99% of people hating on it on steam?

I mean I don't wanna doubt you guys, but is it really just scrubs?

Don't you just hate when you use a rocket to make an enemy fall a floor but he just decides to float in the air instead?

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>>161396526
>>161404423
>>161395649
Why is Bagel still playing XCOM 1 LW if XCOM 2 is available?

Is there some consensus that XCOM1 LW is better, or what? I couldn't imagine going back to it, without concealment phase or anything.

>>161404596
He hasn't played XCOM EW LW in over a year, he JUST started up again three days ago.

He's giving it a shot, remembering what's different, and hopefully will shine a birghter contrast on what exactly 2012 did better than XC2

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>make characters
>select character pool only
>load game
>recruit pool still filled with randoms

great game tbqh

>>161405005
IIRC that's RNG too, they'll probably appear in a few months

Does running and gunning use a single action against rulers?

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>>161404465
original responder here, let me explain what ayy hunters is

You get 3 boss ayyliens, each with more and more health, and strong abilities, like freezing your soldiers, AOE stuns etc.
And they get a move every time you take a non-free action.
Free actions include shit like: hair trigger shots, axe throw, reaction shots provided ogrewatch was setup before activating the ruler.
They are meant to be bosses, hard to defeat, and this is why people whine, they're not used to difficulty in XCOM that just goes in dry and doesn't tell you to bite the pillow.

Thing is, you can put off the rulers until you have plasma/power armor tier shit, and you can cheese them easily by simply using the fucking battle scanners to find the pod before triggering, setting up an ogrewatch with everyone buy 1 guy whose job is to activate the pod, and bring them into the firing line. And the game gives you equipment to deal with them. Freeze grenades, stun crossbow, free shot (once) pistol, and free axe throw (once as well), on top of base game shit like stasis.
I think they also take damage from acid/fire every move, but I'm not sure
It is challenging, but it's not nearly as broken as people make it seem everywhere, so it really is 99% scrubs who can't git fucking gud
>>161405245
No

>>161405287
I think that 99% of bad reviews are people who rushed in because they heard Dr. Vahlen's sweet, tempting cute accented voice and got assraped by a million snakes, and when they finally got through all that, they got assraped by a blue sausage, and when they finally got through that they got continuously assraped every single mission until they finally managed to kill it.

>>161404465
so the standard xcom game is turn base yeah? you take a turn then the ayys take theirs.
ayy rulers make an action when every you make a move in your turn,
>reload
>ruler shoots your man dead
>shoot ruler
>ruler strangles you
>shot ruler to stop strangle
>miss lel
>strangle damage
>miss lel
>strangle damage
>ALIEN ACTIVITY
I breaks the core mechanic of the game, I got through them save scumming like a mother fucker. Are they interesting? fuck yes. Are they a bullshit thing to fight? double yes. Do they make me want to genocide all ayys down to dust and glass their planets? triple yes.

>>161405490
Exactly.
Never do a mission if you don't think you're prepared for it

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Give me a operator nickname!

>>161405597
Of course, but up until there the player has been breezing through simple missions.

There's no "HEY COMMANDER MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT TIL WE GET SOME GOOD WEPS WHO KNOWS WHAT VAHLEN MUST'VE BEEN DOING DOWN THERE WINK WINK"

Getting Bradford as a character may be a warning but it could also be interpreted as giving the player a taste of an endgame character or some shit.

>>161405758
>There's no "HEY COMMANDER MAYBE WE SHOULD WAIT TIL WE GET SOME GOOD WEPS WHO KNOWS WHAT VAHLEN MUST'VE BEEN DOING DOWN THERE WINK WINK"
The sketchy, cutting transmission was enough warning to me to not tackle it instantly.
Maybe it's because I'm skeptical as fuck when it comes to just about anything, but that approach never failed me.

>>161404596
xcom2 is only superior in graphics

>>161405681
Wendigo
Duster
EdgeKilla
RepairMan

>>161405287
Are you running the long war perk pack?

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>>161405287
>>161406972
Same guy. Another question if you have Perk Pack:
How's the classes? Are they broken as fuck or are they decent like in EW Long War?

>>161406972
I'm running LW perk pack, 10 other extra classes and class roulette right now, on whatever is below legend as difficulty with 10 man squad, and I'm having loads of fun

>>161407039
They aren't super broken, melee is finally useful, they're fine in my opinion, nicely well rounded

And then there's trench gun

>>161407164
>>161407039
I'm pretty confident anons would make love to trench gun if they could.

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>>161395649
>>161396526

It's time.

>Shinobi class

>>161407039
Not that anon, but, last I checked, LW classes were straight-up busted. You need ayy mods to balance that shit out.

>>161407236
Nigga I would FUCK the everloving shit out of the trench gun in ways that would make old /d/ blush

I think I'll take ruler reactions over the HP bloat, broken abilities and defense of the LW 'bosses'.

>was about to buy the DLC for XCom2
>Steam Sale literally ended when I was finally ready to buy, so all the discounts are gone

It hurts to live

>>161407695
Winter sale is 20 days away, just hang in there.

Discounts will be the same, though.

>>161405005
That only applies to the soldiers you get from HQ.

https://xcom.com/news/new-update-deployed-for-xcom-2-on-ps4-xbox-one?__prclt=1AYymsCL

They've abandoned us.

>>161408587
>they're supporting a new release and marketing demographic

dat damn firaxis

Anons, XCOM2 is a great game, but it is nowhere near the level of LW.

I was wondering why that is?

1. Is it because of lack of weapon/armor tiers? Ballistic -> Mag -> plasma makes it seem your progression ends very fast. LW gives you Ballisitc -> Laser -> Gauss -> Advanced Laser -> Plasma. Similarly with armors.

2. Shallow strategic layer? Granted nobody misses the total RNG fest that is the air game, but country and continental bonuses in LW are game-changing, whereas strategic bonuses in XCOM2 are more or less "meh"

3. Mission timers that force the aggressive style in XCOM2? Whereas in LW, yes, there are soft timer in the form of Meld containers, but those are mere bonuses, rewards for aggressive plays. Whereas if you don't play aggressively in XCOM2 you WILL fail missions left and right and not being able to counter certain dark events are just brutal.

4. Enemy scaling? Pretty self-explanatory here. Alien research and scaling in LW makes that your ace team don't just utterly steam roll over the end game and turn it into snoozefest.

5. Overall abilities, skills that punish thoughtful, methodical play, ties back to point #3. Suppression in XCOM2 is abysmally bad. Flashbang, though having larger AoE, is significantly weaker than its counterpart in LW. Smoke -- no dense smoke perk or upgrade available, wasted item slot. High cover doesn't give 1 DR (though can be fixed with 1 mod) etc.

What are your thoughts?

>>161408765

I'm being facetious, I'd just like word on patches/DLC/expansion. The silence is grating.

>>161408587
>Waypoint functionality added
Holy shit, is the console port that unfinished?

>>161408847
firaxis never releases details until they have something to show

an appropriate mannerism, since gamers are terrible clowns who get pissy if one feature shown is cut

Will we ever get a mod that removes mission timers and adds meld back in?

Judging from the responses to >>161284451 ,
meld is a preferable alternative. Just make it a resource/research requirement again and boom; you're good.

>>161379619
>The Meld, Bradford
>Hand it over

>>161405563
>save scumming like a mother fucker isn't the core mechanic of the game

That's ecchscom, you baby.

>>161408261
You mean recruits from recruit pool, or soldiers bought/obtained?

>>161408997
That raises an interesting question - How were meld timers calculated in EW? Was it just a matter of distance from spawn? Did it take the number of pods between you and the meld into account?

>>161409463
Bought/obtained.

Where are the soldier namelists stored for X2?

>>161409493
Depends on map.

>>161409521
Wew that sucks.

I guess I'm gonna have to get some random rookie and metamorphosis them into another soldier.

>>161409663

There is a "load from character pool" mod that may serve you well.

>>161405005
How big is your character pool, anon?

Damn ADVENT armors look great, except for their helmets

>>161409814
a grand total of _6 characters

>>161410029
That's your issue then, it has to be enough to fill up the entirety of the recruit pool and your 8 starting operatives to guarantee all of them appear.

Source: this has pissed me off since launch

>>161408782
X2 is the "streamlined" experience, concealement and timer make it faster paced, but at the end of the day you have less strategic choice

EW+LW is slower but got a better strategic feel and balance, you dont feel pressured to end the encounter in 1 turn

What X2 did absolutely right was customization and procedural map, I dont think I could enjoy EW after that

>new LnI
>first pod takes 40 minutes to kill
>all that defense on the mutons and heavy floaters
I had already forgotten what magnificent design meant.

>>161412685
>The true battle is between the developer and the player
>if the player wins, I lose
>gamers aren't supposed to win the game

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>>161412685

The ADVENT administration suddenly doesn't look that bad now.

>>161409239
Not for ironman fuckers.
If they go into the ruler mission blind & early-game they'll be nearly-wiped.
And forever afterwards they have to avoid VIP extraction missions- the rulers have a penchant for showing up on those & if IT doesn't wipe them, the time limit will.

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post your most badass soldiers
this guy has carried my entire campaign and CCS is the best perk ever when armed with a shotgun and becomes the best anti-lancer/anti-snek guy you could want
>lancer runs up to him
>gets shot
>he runs to range of sneks
>sneks slither to grab him
>get shot

>>161415565
>wants to compare power levels
>uses a mod class

>>161412685
however

>Mutons and floaters don't instantly kill or put a soldier out of commission for two months if they're not killed on contact because the player has his own tools of magnificence

I like it better than X "200 aim or get the fuck away" com 2 balancing, magnificent as it is.

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>>161415565
Where's that headpiece from, anon? That dude is looking amazing

Also, this fucking guy. Headcanon'd him as a FCO when making the charpool, and come hell or high water he would carry my doomed from the get-go campaign in which I made an attempt at replicating an Escalation for LW-like balance. He cheated death more times than I'd care to count until finally being swarmed by a six muton pod who were reinforcing from a psi-portal coming in on his beaten up squad from the flank, whilst they were still busy trying to sort out a MEC pod up front. Five out of the eight soldiers deployed died on that mission, the remaining three were wounded.

It was one of those brutal Additional Missions-mod eliminate ADVENT VIP on PR tour mission, and they did technically win it but it broke the back of the campaign and the whole thing was eventually ground to dust by pure attrition on losing 90% of the veterans. It seemed fitting that the whole thing went down shitter after he died, somehow.

>>161416543
>>Mutons and floaters don't instantly kill or put a soldier out of commission for two months if they're not killed on contact because the player has his own tools of magnificence

Did we play the same LW?

>>161417267
Did you watch the same video I did?

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>>161415565
Alessandro "The Truth" Romano from my first time playing, a sharpshooter. Because I always use my sharpshooters last, this guy saved the lives of his squadmates like a thousand times, I could always count on the guy. Also my most memorable characters are always from my first playthroughs, like Karl "Viper" Hagen, Natalia "Rift" Kozlova, Jane Kelly etc.

>>161417267
Anon, by the time the really dangerous LW-baddies start showing up it's fairly easy to deal with them. There is no way you will ever see a Muton nor a HFloater oneshot one of your guys unless you're an idiot who sticks carapaced troopers in halfcover against them.

>>161417267
>Assault eats 2 plasma grenades and takes 3 shots on no cover
>shots miss because tac sense and smoke
>No post-game wounds

ur trash

If you were playing the aliens you'd be hooting and hollering about magnificent design

>>161410227
Wow, that's dumb as hell, surprised there's not a mod to fix that.

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>>161415565
this dude is op as shit

>>161417198
not them buts its from this http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=650809111

>build foundry
>doesn't add any engineers
is my game glitched?

>>161421528
x2 or x1

1-5: XCOM 2
6-7 Titanfall 2
8-9: Watch Beagle
0: Go to bed

>>161422003
x1, nevermind accidently built a foundry instead of a workshop because Im an ass and now my game is fucked

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>>161422186
rollin

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PULL

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>>161423950

>>161424092

He was just trying to go home to Chryssalidia.

>>161424507
Shoulda done it quicker.

>>161424507

Now there's a thought. What do you think the different ayys' homeworlds look like?

Ethereal: I'm thinking Earth-like. Oceans, many different biomes, lots of biodiversity. Extensively terraformed. Vast cities of glittering spires.

Sectoids: Temperate, possibly Earth-like. Strong gravity.

Vipers/Thin men: Arid/desert. Hot and dry, with mesas and canyons.

Mutons: Tropical jungles with extremely hostile wildlife. Tribal societies spread across smaller villages.

Berzerkers: Same as Mutons, obviously.

Floaters/Archons: Same as Mutons, possibly a weaker sub-species. Extensively modified and mutated from its natural form.

Chryssalids: Same as Mutons. The Mutons used to hunt 'lids for sport.

Outsiders/Codices: As energy beings, they were naturally occuring inside some giant nebula or gas cloud. The Ethereals gave them the ability to take solid form.

Not sure about the Andromedons, Faceless and Gatekeepers.

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>>161325395
Vigilo Confido,
Just bought Darkest Dungeon
Is it a simple 9.9/10 as I expect?

>>161425643
>strong gravity
wat?

>>161426526

They are tiny. Creatures are unlikely to be big on worlds with oppressive gravities.

>>161426102
What even is this post?

No not 9.9. It's more RNG-heavy than XCOM & a punishing motherfucker to boot.

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>>161408782
I think both games are equal in total.
One thing EU/EW does better is the density of cover on maps.

See how you can reach several cover spots with your soldiers in xcom 2 without having to worry about your squad positioning?
You can basically take any spot and watch across the whole map and flee if you need (as far as your LOS is to the max).

In EW you have to think a bit more about the spots you take (Can all my soldiers see what's going on if something is in a 45 degree angle behind the wall? Is the second car blocking the LOS of half of my squad? Do I have an escape route if I get trapped in the corner between the car and the trash can? Is it worth put one of my soldiers into the house, which hides him/her or do I risk to reveal any pods that open the door?)

Nobody would ever talk half cover tho, but it's the same with the full cover layout, it's just harder to put it in one picture.

Or maybe I'm just deluded because I learned every pod spawn and the maps in EW by heart and how to execute my strategies on said maps based on the cover layout.

>tfw just cheesed the fuck out of avenger defense with meme beacons

>>161426692
But they aren't built for it at all, with their scrawny limbs and oversized head.
More likely the Ethereals just cooked them up from scratch, like some zerg sea-slug.

Also, Floaters/archons were modified mutons, canon. And I very much doubt the aliens 'found' the 'energy beings', rather creating them.
Andros look like modified Sectoids.
Faceless is another constructed creature.

>>161427262

Good points.

>>161427048

I think the reason X2 has more cover is because it gets blown up more easily.

>>161427048

Are you running a reshade in that top half? It has a delightful winter-comfy feeling to it.

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>>161427773
It's a normal screenshot, taken back in february. Settings should be almost maxed out.

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Why did they feel compelled to used the shitty stretched 2d map?

>>161429886
Fucking this, geoscape was so much cooler

Lads the AVATAR countdown is making me extremely triggered

I'm like 4 away from the big boom and the base I have to attack is like 2 resistance contacts away

the FUCK do I do gents

>>161432254
i believe in you

>>161432254
4 blocks away? If you haven't triggered the countdown before you've got bags of time.

>>161432501
my resistance contactors (???) are full and I have like 3 fiddy to build new shit

When should I be hitting the black site on Legend? Mags, or mags and plate?

>>161432707
It's nice to do it before the first supply drop to minimize stun lancers.

If you take the left hand approach to the site there's a nice patch of full cover trees to fight from, then a cliff to get the drop on the mec pod, finally you can just blow up the back wall and grab the vial.

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wut

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I miss EXALT.

>>161438596
try flanking

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>>161439076

>>161432501
W-what if you triggered the countdown before..?

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>>161437315
>enter building
>seems clear
>turn around

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>>161439298

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>>161395649
>>161396526
>>tfw 1:30:53

Yes Beagle.

Just. Do. It.

>>161439821
better shoot it

>>161439971
>Titans as stark parts fucking never

>>161440065
This was long ago.
IIRC Dieter literally couldn't shoot straight to save his life & in a surprise ending the cuddly thing just screamed BAKA and ran right through the door, embarrassed that Dieter had ruined its stairway ambush plans.

>>161441019
lucky him guess he gets to keep his innards for another day

>>161439971

that shoryuken spinning back fist

>>161442330
high level stuff here

>>161440657
Don't lose hope

Titanfall 2 ports FUCKING WHEN?

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>>161443656
soon i hope

is it me or is Better Advent 2 a complete clusterfuck difficulty-wise ?

The first missions are completely raping me and I'm only at the 3-4th missions
Game keep throwing pack of 4-5 advent at me with drones that stun for 4 turns and I have no idea what the fuck am I supposed to do with rookies

>muton with 1 hp
>think i'm gonna be super cool and send my sadistic-backstory soldier with her huge ass axe to slice it in two
>she runs and takes out her axe, swings
>it blocks it with its arm and punches her in the cunt

well that ruined my fun

Alex Jones is God's gift to the internet
https://youtu.be/mhvaI07jmkA

>>161444750
Yea it's shit

Why doesn't this game have a difficulty mod that makes the game more balanced?

I mean it can't be that hard to make it, but I guess XCOM 2 is too small to have people making that

>>161444750

are you playing with 6-8 soldiers?

>>161445432
https://youtu.be/8Sr3BAu-zLk

>>161325973
You should just make the whole video a single voice line for him.

>>161446736
That will get really obnoxious really fast.

>>161445910
Nope, just the vanilla 4 start

>>161447261
ABA2 was balanced around larger squads famalam.

>>161447549
What the fuck

Am I supposed to get a mod with bigger squads ? I didnt read any of that shit in the mod desc

>>161447646
Hi, DSP

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>>161447646
Anon, I am sorry to say but you are illiterate.

I suggest this one
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=619922328

>>161447841
>>161447843
My bad then

What's everyone using for bigger squad ? Should I get LW perk with that ?

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>newest beagle video
>reaches tier 3
>"we halo now boys"
P O T T E R Y

>>161429886
Mod priorities I think, easier to mod 2D than 3D.

>>161445052
i'd prefer it if there was a chance to actually go through instead of counter being straight up hard dick counter

>archon and berserker queen
>put all in ogrewatch
>archon moves first

wew boy

>>161447918
LW Toolbox.

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DEATH TO XENOS
DEATH TO COLLABORATORS
LONG LIVE HUMANITY

>>161448994
>>161447918
Toolbox breaks fucking everything, just mod it up yourself

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>>161449123
this guy gets it

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How's this for an action shot?

>>161449339
pretty good! i like that dude that is getting lifted to god in the back