/twg/ - Total War General

>Total War: Warhammer provided the perfect opportunity to bring back Avatar Conquest
>CA didn't do it

I just want to make my own custom night goblin general and conquer the Old World.

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G O B L I N S

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>>161283245
Goblins...

>>161283102
That would require effort on CA's behalf

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We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?

>Atilla Total War
>playing as Franks
>finally conquer the Saxons
>look around for more conquests
>all of Gaul and Spain is ruins
>every single settlement
How did this happen?

>>161283102
Avatar campaign conquest: regional occupation

>>161283579
hopefully

>>161283102
Way too costly for something that only 5% of their audience plays.

feel like warhammer and it's expansions are gonna be Rome 2 and Attila/AoC.
First game is really bad/cash cow try to improve it via updates.
next Game improves upon the first one in almost every way and become amazing.
does /twg/ agree?

>>161284263
Typical cornercutting as expected of CA. Their million dollar seller filled to the brim with DLC that's selling like hotcakes doesn't have the luxury of time or budget for effort to be put into it.

>>161283585
The AI loves to raze and the countless Roman civil wars and separatism fucked those regions over.

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>>161284360
Guinea pig

A cash cow is from something established and will clearly do well based on some pedigree while Warhams was way more of a risk given the companies history. Also kind of a proof of concept of a lot of changes necessary to the TW structure in order to make it work.

Subsequent DLC's have been gettting better and better so I would imagine that the expansions will continue that trend.

Which Total War offers most variety in tactics?

>>161284962
Rome 1

>>161284716
I miss the old Warhammer lore, when Bretonnia was dominate against the Empire, who were on the verge of being conquered by those noble grail knights.

>>161284360

>loved warhammer so far
>expansions will be even better

fuck yes I will agree with this if it becomes true

>>161284360
What I'm excited to see is if the whole expansions plugging together thing really works and imagining what could be done with future TWs.

Image how long the fucking load times will be when every race is added to the game.

>>161285903

>tfw I hope CA figures something out to make load times less ass

I guarantee they won't though.

>>161284360
Warhammer is already a great title.

>>161284481
You have a very skewed view. 1 million sales is not that much for a company with hundreds of employees and while dlc sales may be good for the series, you better believe they are in the tens of thousands at best.

>>161285903
Plenty of time for you to save up $40 for a solid state drive.

what is the point of aspiring champions

>>161286917
They buff Marauder troops, and wreck (as in absolutely destroy) weak infantry lines. There pretty cost efficient too.)

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>Gobbo Archers

>>161287414
Are far superior to Orc Arrer Boyz. Also, when is CA adding the Bloody Sun Boyz subfaction?

>>161287360
This, Aspiring champions are great against most non elite infantry. And they'll hold the line against a lot of other stuff just the same.

how da fuck do I play Empire? My line of halberds never holds for long enough and micro-ing guns is a pain and I hate it.

Pike units when?

>>161288401
Halberds are shit vs anything that isnt large.

>>161288401
Halberds aren't supposed to hold the line. They're supposed to be mobile rapid response units that stab giant monsters in the butt.

>>161288401

1 general. 19 steam tanks.

>>161288496
>>161288484
But shield and spears are so boring...

PIKES WHEN!!!!!

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Place ya bets, boys and girls

>>161288574
>having to micro is boring
>I just want the enemy to run into my ranks and die
Fuck off, retard.

>>161288643

I bet the yari samurai win.

>intentionally bring public order down in an enemy region to start a rebellion as chaos
>spawned army is hostile to ME
for what purpose

>>161288643
Takayama Norifuji is our guy

So Empire and vamps are getting a new hero unit?

>>161288782

It's Chaos, what are you expecting? Sleep overs and Kumbayas?

>>161288782
Protip: rebels are hostile to EVERYONE.

>>161288782
>Expecting anyone to be friends with literally satan

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>>161288732
>>161288805
yatta

>>161289027
how'd you manage winning so good?

>>161289063
Made them walk to me, had the high ground, charged downhill, had a big dick.

>>161289063
Probably got the charge.

>>161285029
>when Bretonnia was dominate against the Empire, who were on the verge of being conquered by those noble grail knights

Shit that never happened/10

How do I deploy volleyguns when I don't have a hill?

>>161289327
center of your battle line or on the flanks

you could also keep them behind your main force and then move them behind the enemy on the flank to hit them from the back

Which of the Dwarf ranger units are most efficient/useful?

>>161289925
What mods you got senpai

>>161289218
It was true in earlier editions.

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>Playing Rome 1, be newfag
>The Gallic Faction Heir lays siege on a settlement I just moved into
>he's got 1200 men with him
What he didn't know is that in addition to the 500 in the settlement, I have another 500 just outside waiting to ambush
>atttack him, forcing him to split his army between the force I'm controlling and the reinforcements from the settlement
Ended up completely routing him, he left with 400 men while I lost 150, mostly because the friendly AI isn't the greatest.
>tfw advancing into Gallic territories, the Gauls ask for a ceasefire
>make them give me the town I was about to siege
>The Gallic Heir attacks me again with 500 men, only to leave with 200
I've just reached the new territory I was going after, and it's only defenses are this Gaul shit and his 180 men. Can't wait to finally end this shitter after him fucking with me for so long.

pic unrelated from another battle I had, this time with a pack of rebels sitting outside that same city the Gauls tried to siege. He was the last barbarian on the field at this time.

I love this game, cant wait to move onto some of the newer entries.
>tfw got everything from Rome to Rome II

>>161290129
>not getting medieval 1
pleb

>>161290060
none

>>161290174
pleb
patricians only play shogun 1

>>161290342
Medieval 1 is a straight upgrade mechanically. I'm pretty sure you can even get a mod to play Shogun in Medieval.

empire 2 when

>>161290129
Glad you're having fun, anon. It's one hell of a fun series.

>>161290324
Well, if you have belegar with a master engineer (and runelords) you can turn all of the ranger units into absolute rape machines, but for other LLs just stick with the ones with Great weapons. IN my opinion at least.

>playing chaos
this has convinced me to get a mod that disables hostile agent actions desu lads

War weariness is a great idea, whats dumb is that it accrues even while you are winning. Shit should only apply while bad stuff is happening. You literally get punished for winning battles continuously.

>>161291396
You talking about in AoC? Because I've only seen it increase when I lose battles.

MY GODS CALL

>>161292392
I am an idiot, I added it to the regular attila, it really fucks up a WRE campaign, nvm im a mong.

>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

Fill in the blank

Our horses love _____!

>>161290593
people will call you a fucking scribe but 2bh my familyfam it's a good idea.

>>161292616
succ

COME ON MEN, FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO LIVE!

>>161292616
Pontus

>>161292616

Elector Counts

>>161285769
I want to see how they're gonna make it a standalone product. Gonna be some weird maps.

>>161292616
Vlad

Does anyone else have this bug where it seems that rank 3 of perks for Legendary Lords don't work? I can get a +10% HP Boost for rank 2 but rank 3 still gives only the rank 2 shit for it.

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So im thinking about getting Attila. Do you guys recommend it? I know it's a basic improvement over Rome two, but how much is it improved? Should I get warhammer or shogun instead?

Also I don't like the warhammer setting, so it's unlikely I'll get it.

Mortors vs rockets, which is most cost effective?

>>161292616
hay

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I'VE BECOME SO NUMB

Give me the rundown on Empire's mages senpai. Are they worth it?

>>161294006
>mortar
+ can lob bombs over battlelines into the enemys back
- slow rate of fire
>rockets
+ barrages disrupt enemy lines
- linear firing arc and spread

both have their uses, rockets are not a direct upgrade of mortars

So I just picked the "easy" Shogunate faction and notice I start with traditional armies. Should I be using them or shift to modern armies right away?

>>161293989
Autism speaks.

>>161293989
Shogun + FotS is better all around, Attila if you like Rome and Charlie.

>>161293989
Get it now whilst it's on sale if you want it. The game + all the DLC is around £20/$25/€24.

It's pretty good, it brings back some of the "complex" elements of Total War games including a lot of micro management, but there's definitely a tonne of content there. Additionally, it's got some really promising medieval mods coming up, so check steam workshop and the mod sites to see what piques your interest.

Warhammer on the other hand is a unique experience, it's a lot simpler than other total war in its' management aspect, but there's such a masive change on the battlefield due to all the races of the warhammer factions, and the DLC policy is hit-and-miss. I'd wait for Total Warhammer to become more of a sale item if you're not that interested, when you get get all the game and the DLC for cheap, until then Attila would do you fine.

>>161294242
Immediately upgrading is a common mistake. Traditional infantry, even the cheapest and shittiest levy, will reliably win in melee 100% of the time. It's just a case of getting them in to the fight before they're shot full of holes.

Also bow units actually outrange guns and are arguably even more lethal.

>>161294281
O-oh... ok anon...

>>161294372
>>161294495
Alright Attila it is. It would be nice to make Rome great again. Though I'll probably just play the medieval mods and pretend it's medieval 3

>>161293989
It's a lot better than warhammer

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Who /comfy/ up in here

>>161294495
>hit-and-miss
you sure about that? last few DLC seem to be pretty good, along with the new one not looking to be too bad either. At this rate, people who just bash on Warhammer for its 'dlc policy' are just ignorant

>>161294952
Jesus that looks super cozy. All you need is a cat or dog at the end of the bed

>>161294952
How do you see shit and how do you use a mouse without fucking up half the time?

approximately how long do you think it will take for wood elves to go on sale after it releases

>>161292616
WAAAGH!!

>>161290129
The older titles have a lot of polish to them, they're still extremely fun to play. But man are you gonna have a blast when you get to Shogun 2.

>>161294515
In that case, what should my army builds look like at the beginning? Apparently I'm allowed extra yugekitai units which just seem like Gallic Hunters from R2.

>>161295308
6 months

>>161294952
how's that comfy?

>>161295256
20/20 vision and touchpad hell
Thankfully the ai attack order thing works really well so its not that hard
>>161295178
Cant have animals in these apartments, otherwise I'd have a cat

>>161294060
Shogun 2 has the best battle screenshots.

>>161294686
No its not.

>>161295730
Yes it is. Has more than 4 factions and isn't dumbed down for starters.

>>161295730
anon pls the only thing warhammer has going for it is the setting, attila is objectively better as a game

>>161283102
Army painter and custom lords are definitely on my wish list.

>>161295807

No it does not.
It has 5 different factions and 20 different starting positions.

Can we not fight?
There is more than enough room in the thread for /hist/ and /wh/ fags and in fact many Warhammer fans are histfags.

>>161296129
not worth arguing with them champ
there will always be historyfags and people who simply enjoy both types of games
>>161296335
as a /vg/ veteran, drama is what keeps generals alive. you either get shitposting or drama

>>161296129
Are we counting this by buildings or by playstyle? Because if we're going playstyle, then Germans play differently from Celts, Slavs, West Rome, East Rome, Desert Kingdoms, Sassanid Persians, and Huns.

>>161295807
What would you count as "not dumbed down"? Because there are some changes that are alright in Warhammer and some that, yeah, I wish didn't exist.

>>161296429
I honestly prefer shitposting, at least the intent there is mostly light hearted.

Which Lore of Magic is the best?

Lore of Death has Spirit Leech and Purple Sun
Light has the net spell
Heavens has Curse of the Midnight Wind
Beasts has that explosion spell that's nice

Also, why do all the bombard and wind spells suck?

Purely magic Heroes seem like a waste of an army slot, I'd rather take a monster or an artillery unit or something.

Half or more of the spells in any given lore are practically not worth taking the time away from microing to cast desu

>>161296614

>wind spells
>suck

pick one
Unless there is a nerf I don't remember, wind of death is amazing.

>>161294952
kek i have the same sheets and had that tv a while back

PA9NR-C8DGI-WH2Y5 - Grombrindal the White Dwarf
DZYAQ-I3ZIY-857X6 - 20% off TWW

>>161297002
C8GDI*

>tfw Rome 1 finally got released for iPad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFw8Km3qhj4

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Germans can't handle the bantz

>>161297002
>PA9NR-C8DGI-WH2Y5
GET
E
T

Thank anon!

>>161296996
why do you think they are good specifically?

they do fuck all damage

>>161295471
Honestly, whatever you enjoy using. Full traditional is viable, full modern is viable, mixtures are viable. Figure out what you have fun with and roll with it safe in the knowledge that it will work.

>>161297152

The wind of death I remember was the only spell I found that did damage and killed huge amounts of people when you cast it along a blob of infantry.

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>>161297132

>>161297152
Are you serious? If you like a vamp up correctly on the edge of a battle line he can get over 1k kills from a single overcasted Wind of Death.

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

God damn it I hate flagellants. I hate using them (because they get torn to shreds even when I use them as shock infantry) and I hate to fight them (because they seem to last forever and ruin my attempts to mass rout the enemy thanks to unbreakable). I wish I could remove them from the game.

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>>161297325
peasants throwing off the kill ratio baka

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>Medieval III never

>>161297558
the medieval mod for Attila will basically be the same thing

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>>161297456
More Germans unable to handle the Italian banter

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>>161297558
>China never

>>161297606
>implying it will ever get a campaign release

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>>161297609

>>161297456
>capturing enemy generals
bring this back

>>161290449
This, please

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>>161297690
starting to get a little italian empire going

>>161297387
yep they're god awful except, like every other unit in the game (and even more so on difficulties higher than Normal) the computer gets invisible bonuses to make up for the piss poor AI

it's my #1 complaint with these games the AI cheats so fucking much and obviously

>>161297690
So every unit has a named commander?

>>161297873
Yes with stats and traits. You can land all of them titles too.

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>>161295591

>>161297907
What does it mean to land a general? How CK2 does it get?

>>161298075

just like my japanese animes

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>>161298162
You can't kill Ikko Ikki hard enough

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I think I like elephants

>>161298287
Is your name Hannibal?

>>161298084
Every province has one or two titles like duke of ______ or chamberlain which you can give to units of a province for certain bonuses and assigning them as governors of a province. It's not like CK2 but more like a wargame.

>>161298368
I wish it was.

Which faction has best elephants?

What do you think of Empire having pikes?

Can halflings become vampires or are they immune to it?

>>161298479
Literally useless if you get bayonets, and their morale is too low it do a good job fighting other infantry

>>161298793
Actually I just found out Empire didn't even have pikes in the tabletop. Very strange, you'd think they would be a vital part of their army considering the style.

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>>161298908
Fuggggg I thought he was talking about empire total war

FIGHT FOR US LADSS

>>161293679
>Expand Great campaign map
>Lock all other factions
Either this or a minicampaign

>>161297823
If the AI didn't cheat people would complain about the game being too easy.

>>161297823
I'm fine with the AI cheating, especially since I chose to go on the higher difficulty. Give them higher melee defense, attack, whatever you want. I don't care about that with other units.

I just care with fucking flagellants because for the AI they are
1) cost effective
2) very useful
3) hard to kill
4) never run

It ruins all of my plans when I'm fighting AI Empire and they got like 6 flagellants, backed by 4 free company and those fucking pistoliers or whatever they're called.

>>161296614
Light or Vampires, followed by Beasts

>>161296614
Vampires has to be the best, but especially the variant the Ghoul King gets that lets you summon Crypt Horros while also getting access to spirit leach, terror spells and Invocation of Nehek.

>>161296614

You forgot the death spell that destroys morale and can instantly rout half an army when overcast.

>>161297152
They do more damage on heavy troops because magic is implemented in a retarded way.

>>161299938

Nice

Let us know the bodycount

>>161299938
mp?

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>>161298235

>>161300213
nope
>>161300163
i just hope that it doesnt murder my pc

Guys, so I just steamrolled Sicily with my 3 stacks in my DEI grand campaign as Rome.

Carthage now wants a peace treaty, should I take it and develop economy and expand North? Or should I take my 3 stacks as an invasion force straight to Carthage?

>>161298287
Wut? How?

>>161299938
how?

>>161300564
CARTHAGO

>>161300564
>DEI
uninstall

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>>161300641
Armored Elephants shit on everything

Unarmored elephants get shit on

Opium Total War when

Need to dismantle the Qing for the sake of tea

>>161300696
>>161300724
Oh yeah, they expect me to pay too. So do I play into history and invade?

>>161300823
DELENDA

>>161300836
Okay then, I kinda wanted to wait a couple of decades for Hannibal to appear if he ever does in DEI. RIP Carthage, I invaded too fast for their armies to respond.

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10 DAYS

>>161300906
EST

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>>161282997
post FERTILE ASRAI FEMALES

>tfw first cute females coming soon

>>161300946
>he doesn't like vampire grills

>>161300985
they have a charme about them, but no matter how you look at it, their croaking voice and painted up, gaunt faces kinda put me off, and give them an air of Tranny.

Where is my Arena alpha invite? What the shit, CA?

Wow, /gsg/ is cancerous. Havent been there in a while and its just forced memes at this point

>>161301263
How many years did you stop visiting for?

>>161301512
I havent been there in 2 years, Im saving it like a nice wine bottle.

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>turn 115
>Mousillon still alive
>mfw

The fuck are you doing, Brets?

>>161301546
But it was pretty much vinegar even before you started saving it.

>>161301512
probably about 1 and a bit. It wasnt good then at all,but its somehow become worse

>>161300913
I can't fucking wait.

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Welp, Carthage is taken and my treasury is bankrupt. time to decommission all of this and sue for peace.

>>161301673
Well yeah, but it'll be shit enough for me to enjoy it.

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>>161302410
are you alive /twg/

Wait, is 5 slots the max that Rome can have to expand? I see other cities have 6

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>>161302487

>>161302820
keep going lad

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>>161302820
this orcs fucking face

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>>161302901
at this point the greenskins realized they were clearly outmatched and decided to fuck off somewhere else

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>Implying the Holy Roman Empire was Holy, Roman, or an empire

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>>161302970
the dorfs didn't really get involved until pretty late into the battle, though it was probably for the best since they plugged up the gaps left by my dead troops pretty effectively

>>161302987
Literally no one has implied that at any stage. Charlemagne was only doing it ironically.

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>>161303034
Truly a beautiful sight indeed

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>>161301578

>turn 98
>Empire Secessionists still alive

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>>161303358
>They last longer then any empire province
>Red fangs wipe them out

>>161301779
wtf is with those unit cards?

Total Warhammer for hisfag y/n?

>>161304040

y

>>161303992
it's DEI

>begin to build a good relationship with Athens
>get a trade agreement with them along with non-aggression pact
>sparta comes and destroys them

well, that's what I get for tryong to trade with the Greeks

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What do the little flags mean?

>>161304040
If your a hisfag that can enjoy fantasy then yes.

If you can't get behind things like magic or monsters then no.

>>161304409
veterancy/experience level

>>161290324
At least get the mod that fixes the reload speed research for Rangers.

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Stop talking about fantasy.

>>161305137
Fuck off sweden cuck.

>>161305137
Gå vekk Kristian.

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Stop talking about history.

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>>161305137
>>161305301

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warhammer only runs better than attila because the armies are so much smaller, has anyone noticed how few warhammer carpets get posted? its because the unit sizes and the prevalence of units with just 1 model in it means that we barely get a nice, thick, pile of corpses

Where can I go to get a good grasp on the world and its history before going into Total Warhammer?

>>161305328
Are varghulfs any good?

>>161282997
>attila has standard bearers and commanders in every unit
>warhammer doesn't
why though? how hard is it to make one guy stand around with a standard? and don't you dare use the but muh billion different skeletons meme, I am not expecting trolls or dogs to hold a banner, only empire infantry

oh and this reminds me, dogs in attila have handlers, they don't in warham

>>161305137
>>161305301
What is this epic new yamyam?

>>161305437

warhammerfantasy.wikia

1d4chan if you are a memester

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>>161305397
t.man who hasn't defended a wh empire siege with 2 stacks vs their 999

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>>161300913
SO HYPE

>>161305498

Warhammer skipped out a on a lot of things for no real reason. Maybe they'll introduce them eventually, but probably not.

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>>161305578
>>161300913
>>161301768

>worst elves

>>161305397
I want to love warhammer so much, but the map is so small and claustrophobic I can't get into it.

>>161305482
fast armour piercing monster with regeneration

It's pretty good in some situations, pretty great to run into enemies cav when they are tied up.
cycle charge enemy heavy infantry in the back.

try it, just don't expect it to win your battle by itself, its a decent supporting monster

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>>161305137
>>161305301
Stop talking.

>>161305498
Dogs wouldn't really be able to perform the roles they do if they had handlers stuck with them

>want to play as glorious ROME in Attila
>as I unlock more units they look more and more like unwashed barbarians


What the FUCK CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>161305437
the lore section of the 8th edition warhammer fantasy rulebook has a nice general blurb and spotlight on the factions.

Their armybooks go into more detail for specific factions and is the best source for that sort of thing.

>>161305702
You could always play as the Eastern Roman Empire

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Early or late game SS England? I just want a comfy intro to SS VH campaign, that doesn't include getting shit on from 10 directions.

Also, did SS ever fix the "two handed weapons being useless shit / pikes being buggy" issues that vanilla had?

t. haventer player of SS before


>>161305397
Yeah. Distinct lack of carpets lately.

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>>161305573
yeah, call me when you can have a battle of this scale in warham, and this isn't even the largest I've had

>>161305660
this bothers me too, the size and the shame of the map make it feel really small and you also feel like there is pretty much just one way to play any given faction, so it has limited replay value, I've put about 180 hours into it, and I am done until elves are out

>>161305603
its just that having bannermen and commanders would fit in real well with empire

>>161305702
historical accuracy desu, read about the battle of catalaunian plains, the "roman" army was composed mostly or barbar levies

>>161305813
They have the same problem desu

>>161305953
what mod my man

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>>161305849
>Early or late game SS as anything other than the ERE
do you like fighting spear militias using spear milities for about 100-150 turns? if yes pick the early start
>pikes being buggy
kinda, it removed sidearms completely which now means that pikes always behave as if attacked from the front and are as such extremely fucking strong

>>161306113
age of charlememe, pure vanilla

>>161305397

>warhammer only runs better than attila because the armies are so much smaller

Objectively false.

Load up two battles with an equal number of unit models and Attila will run much, MUCH worse.

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>>161305953
ehh anon I only do large unit sizes but I've had 4000v4000's in tw:whams, mostly when chaos is involved I admit but a few times otherwhise, I do agree that the size and shape of the battlemaps do feel smaller for the most part, with one or 2 exceptions. What I'm most suprised about is C.A's desire to play it safe with battlemaps, like we are in a fantasy world please give some large terrain obstacles or something!.


also lets not even get started on siege, worst part is if the 'victory' point was moved back(still within the current battlemaps) most sieges would offer much more involved/fun defences.

>>161306162
>AoC, pure vanilla
fuck me, how many stack participated in that battle?

>>161306162
>pure vanilla

It's a 10

I tried to get into AoC, but I keep getting fucked :(

>>161306310
who you trying to play as?

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>>161306230
4v4

>>161306228
yeah it would be nice if the sieges were a bit more deep in a literal sense, there is never any point in retreating behind the walls because the victory point is just behind them

>>161306370
I tried a few factions. Charlemagne, the Umayyeds, Mercia.

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>tfw closest GeeDubs store is in NYC and fuck NYC
>tfw no White dwarf code
I

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>161306310
The early economy is a bit rough. You need to learn how to accomplish stuff with the least possible resources so that you have enough to go around.

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>>161306443
try lombards they are the easiest faction

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>>161306505
I want to be dominated by this half-elf

>captcha: royal

>>161305137
go back to sweden and suck some more refugee penis

>>161306594
Lombards aka Gotta catch em all: the faction

>>161306748
He isn't swedish.

>>161305953
>only one way to play any given faction

>tfw NEET elves can be played as treemangs or waifus and can expand in any direction they want

>>161305953
>tfw I am on my third empire playthrough and still haven't touched Greenskins

>No rivers and bridges

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>>161307042

>turn 90 as empire
>prepare my anus for the chaos tide
>haven't seen Greenskins all game but I know they've been winning because they have been constantly rank 2 in power
>suddenly 3 WAAAGH stacks of the Bloody Handz start sieging Helmgart out of fucking nowhere
>They burnt their way through the vaults, through Tilea/Estalia and all the way up through Bretonnia to Reikland

How can I make Carthage stronger? I want them to be a challenge to me in the future. Their strength is eroding due to losing their capital.

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>>161307042
don't know how you do it, the only choice is whether you absorb bretonnians are not, otherwise my second campaign was exactly the same so I dropped it

>>161306770
yep, the reason is though that you start with a decent economy so you can get a proper footing before fighting others, as opposed to tiny nations like westphalia that have to fight while being broke

>>161307285
They're supposed to be the first boss to beat

Congrats

>>161307331
I rushed vampire counts in the second playthrough which was pretty fun. I use a overhaul mod in the this third one and had some crazy big empire civil wars.

I guess a lot of people only play the same few factions in all of the total war games. Gonna try out greenskins soon though.

>>161307196
>>No rivers and bridges
Please don't tell me this is true.

>>161307438
Attila told CA he has had enough with the river battle bullying.

>>161307438
There are no river and bridge battles in Warhammer, just shallow water battles. The game really needs more diverse environments, at least you can get the quest battle maps by fighting near them.

>>161307569
>at least you can get the quest battle maps by fighting near them.

It's pretty easy too. Seems they have a large trigger area on the campaign map. Their custom battle maps look great and it seems like they are still going to add more.

>>161307569

How the fuck is Lustria going to work.

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I think I figured that carpets aren't as good in warhams because unit mass doesn't really happen, see here where 10 or so massed stacks of dudes pushed against several 'lines' of 2 units. the 2 units weren't pushed once.
here is a reason why carpets are bado

>>161300946
centre>left>>>>>right

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That feel when going back through old campaigns.

I'd forgotten how broken Rome 2 civil wars were. A single general to ninja their settlement out the turn the civil war starts, and then it's effectively over.

It was an ebin campaign moment though, as broken as it was.

>>161308041
exact opposite desu

>>161300946
http://i.imgur.com/CVFpY7t.png

>>161308130
this

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>>161308174
Woah

>>161308086
I've never had a civil war break out before. How the hell does it happen? Wait, so it just ends when it starts cause you have so many armies?

>Pella defense force
Kek

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>>161307828
GOBLINS

If war weariness didn't apply when you lost a city it would be a great feature, too many factions send armies out to do suicide raids, full stacks vs a small garrison should not count towards weariness, only army vs army.

>declare war on faction
>very next turn they offer peace deal
Pussies

>>161305498
>dogs in attila have handlers, they don't in warham
Because they dont in warhammer too, depending on the unit

>>161307285
>play rome
>fuck up filthy etruscans
>then fuck up filthy carthage
>invade iberia and establish a corner in the left of the map and a frontline in the east, towards greece and towards central yurop.
>declare war on everyone, and fuck shit up.
>finish campaign before turn 100.
> EZ

>>161308313
It happens when you don't balance your generals and your family have too much influence in the senate (for rome at least)

And I don't know how he managed it so easily, since in my roman campaign all the generals exept those from my family joined the rebels (I lost 75% of my armies) and half of my cities deflected to the other side.

>>161308313
Back then, civil wars were inevitable and would happen once your imperium hit a certain level. They were 100% unavoidable, and so politics was worthless and not worth bothering with. You could predict when they would occur, and you could not stop them.

I'm pretty sure emperor edition overhauled civil wars (ie, you can avoid them completely, and they're not just 25 stacks at your capital and made politics not useless), but I've not played a R2 campaign that far since emperor edition.

Anyway, I'd made the prediction that it was coming, so I put a heavy infantry centric army in the capital, fought off the 3 or so stacks that defended it once it flipped to rebel (despite having ~20 stacks within range, only 3 defended, mostly just navies that were shit). Once the capital was retaken, the rebellion starved to death or threw themselves on pikes.

>>161308632
New civil wars include your guys defecting?

The old ones just consisted of a shitload of hostile armies spawning in your capital.

t. >>161308676

>Fighting romans in Attila
>It's just spearmen spam

Why bother.

>>161308749
In emperor edition yeah, guys deflect to the opposite side. I can only speak for rome, but I was playing as the Julii and every guy who wasn't part of it turned on me.

>>161308867

Wait until Western roman separatists spawn

>>161305646
High Elves are tryhard strivers who take everything too seriously and don't know how to have fun
Dark Elves know about slavery and decadence but are too edgy to actually relax and are also led by a Bonnie Prince Charlie/Lord Zedd hybrid that ruins everything.

Wood Elves are of course the apotheosis of the NEET ideal

Man, I love the animations of the minotaurs/gorebulls

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>>161309087
>Have to carefully look after your offspring at all times lest they be abducted and eaten by angry tree spirits that only barely tolerate your kind.
>Said angry tree spirits only barely tolerate your kind.
>Have to fight Beastmen on a semi-regular basis. Sure, the tree spirits will help you, but they are still angry and only barely tolerate your kind.
>Did I mention that the tree spirits are angry and barely tolerate your kind?

Yeah right, sooooo totally THE perfect conditions for a comfy NEET life.

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>>161309262
The lamestream media is really trying to push this controversy and make a conflict where none exists. But Ariel is everyone's queen.

We love our forest spirits don't we folks?

>>161309087
Elves are the literal representation of the gay pride movement.

The gays that take offense to literally EVERYTHING, AND EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THEM AND THEIR RIGHTS.

The gays that are into hardcore kinky bdsm shit, and wants to fuck everyone and everything.

The gays that are literal treehuggers and would take a bullet for a fucking flower.

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ROMA INVICTA

>>161309384
>The gays that take offense to literally EVERYTHING, AND EVERYTHING IS ABOUT THEM AND THEIR RIGHTS.

But that describes the dorfs.

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>>161309338
Keep telling your lies and dreams to yourself, deluded Asrai, our patience for your kind grows thinner as time passes by, and we only keep you out of convenience.

By the way, I abducted your daughter today, I'm gonna' have her for dessert after I'm done devouring this hapless human, if you don't mind.

>>161309517
>roleplaying as a tree

wew lad can't touch this one

>>161309503
Not really, you can make a sensible deal with dwarfs (lorewise) that benefit both parties and they will honor it to death. It's only if you break the deal or attack them that they start getting all triggered for eternity.

High Elves are eternally triggered no matter what you say or do to them.

>>161309384
wood elves are xenophobic isolationists desu, they have more in common with the far right than anything you are talking about

>>161309775
i'm not seeing any far rights tree hugging and camping in woods because muh-nature.

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>COME, SIT, SHARE MY FIRE
How do you respond?

>>161309262
>lying on the internet

>>161309872
>GREETING FRIEND, I CALLED FOR A GOOD ALE TO EASE YOUR THROAT AND RIPE WOMEN TO EASE YOUR OTHER PARTS
t.barbar

>>161309872
by killing their men and raping their women and children especially the children

>>161309948
That's a bit pedo lad desu

>>161309872
OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD

>>161309872
>GAUL IS MOTHER TO US ALL

>>161308432
But squigs did… and they even went wild when their handlers died

Also, in the lore, the dog units have mounted handlers

>>161310262
You're thinking of outdated lore

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Age of Sigmar is like Warhammer 1.5?

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Accurate portrait.

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>>161300913

10 days

>>161309226
Best thing about Beastmen DLC for sure

>>161309872
I offer you this: peace. A simple end to war before our peoples are gone, like blossoms on the breeze.

>>161310394
One more entry for the book.

>>161309872
Gods of the afterlife, spare my arse!

>>161310015
>That's a bit pedo
Yes, do you think I'm a faggot or something?

>>161309867
>Trespass their home
>Get shot

>>161310545
It depends if the kids are female or female (male)

>>161310349
I'm sure Squigs had handlers on latest edition

And the dog handlers is exclusive from the lore, but would have been nice to have the option on the game for mods

How the fuck are Wood Elves NEETs if they have to fight

>>161310394
>420grudgeit.jpg

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>elfs when they hear Brettonians fapping to them

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>>161310692

kek

>>161310396
The best thing about it was getting it for 13 dollars and now getting free units.

>>161310684
>I'm sure Squigs had handlers on latest edition
Nope

>but would have been nice to have the option on the game for mods
When Lizardmen and Razordon packs come out you will have your wish

>>161310391
No, it's 40k with renaned fantasy models + one of the worst settings ever conceived

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Is this an accurate depiction of dorf and elf relations?

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When the whole crew looking imperial af

>>161310395
is this that succubus one?

>>161309867
Really? Do you even Mother Europa?

>>161311012
My little Marushiru can't be this cute

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>>161310753

>>I'm sure Squigs had handlers on latest edition
>Nope

I don't understand what you think you'll gain from lying Anon.

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Actually now that I think of it, do wood elfs have artillery?

>>161310672
>female (male)
I've seen it a few times but wtf does that mean??

>>161309867
You've never heard of Varg then.

>>161311319
it means it's a bad meme you shouldn't concern yourself with

>>161310687
Wood Elves are comically evil in the fluff. GA really went overboard with trying to balance out their perceived generic goodness (after Tolkien) by giving them everything from black eyes to having their Queen dabble in black magic, to their guardian spirits being essentially corrupted by Chaos. Actually, 8th ed through to the End Times saw Wood Elves descend into pure evil just as suddenly as Dark Elves stopped worshipping Khorne and Slaanesh and unironically became the true claimants to the Phoenix Crown. Really makes you think.

>>161311449

Yeah I'm kind of wondering if they're going to mention the fact that wood elfs just hunt humans for fun

>>161311287
I think one of their heroes has arty range with his bow.

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Do you agree /twg/?