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Last thread >>161169367 (Cross-thread)
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COMPLETE THIS SENTENCE:

AHHHHHHHHH /twg/.......
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>cataphract lancer
>doesnt have a lance
>isnt a cataphract
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BM and WoC RR sometime?
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>>161233184
KING OF THE SILVER THREADS
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>>161233185

I don't remember that unit
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>>161233218
Maybe after Bretonnia to fill in the gap between the last DLC and the next expansion
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>>>161230778
>>He doesn't know
look Horatio Caine here guys. i would not ask if i knew would i?

btw are there anyone here whos managed to pay back all grudges in a veryhard of legendary difficulty?
and im not counting when you're cleared the map or only have a few factions left. i mean early game and all the way through, when everyone spams those agens.
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>>161233218

They refuse to even address RoR for DLC races, it's kinda fucking annoying to be honest famalamadingdong.

To be honest I was sort of expecting Wood Elves to come with RoR, since Beastmen came out before they were even a thing. But nope, nothing. Not a good sign.
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>>161233513

Could add Volkmar to that too. Basically any post Vlad lord that comes with -10% off [unit] is fucking trash.

OH BOY FLAGELLANTS ARE SLIGHTLY CHEAPER. Arch Lectors and Volkmar don't even buff them enough to make them better than say buffed Greatswords or even regular fucking Swordsmen.
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>>161233728

Volkmar gives Flagellants some really huge boosts though.
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>>161233728
Volkmar's a pretty good campaign hero, though. Wouldn't choose him as my starting lord, but I always get a temple up as soon as I can so I can set him up as Arch Lector. He reduces corruption by an ass load, and I can recruit warrior priests at over level 10 when he's in the province.
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Do you enjoy sex?

Yes, I love Wessex.
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Guys, what total war do I play?

I feel like playing Warhammer but the games go too quickly and get boring quickly.

What do
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>>161233728
Dont forget Sigvald. Hes just irredeemable trash compared to Archaon or Kholek.
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>>161233728

Volkmar isn't anywhere NEAR as bad as those.

Free banishment p gud
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Yn Edri Eternos
Playing as the Wood Elves or Argwylon, upgrade the Oak of Ages to level 5.

>Argwylon
????
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>>161233589
While I can understand the position of "no dlc for dlc", I'd rather have the option and to me it isn't that big of a deal. Just imagine that half of the races in the game will never get additional paid content, which of course has more to it than free updates.
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>>161234110

Durthu's faction
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Is Napoleonic Total War good?
LME is such a fucking ridiculously huge download
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Weird oddly specific question, but does Medieval 2: Kingdoms expansion add anything to the base game? Otherwise, I'll just download it later.
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how is there no fucking mod that removes desert attrition if youre on a road? this should be the way it isnt in vanilla, but there isnt even a mod for it
this game is fucked
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>>161234249
talking about attila btw
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>>161234249
Just camp it out
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TRUE KING OF EIGHT PEAKS
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>>161233821

They still melt against Chaos and armored enemies, and Volkmar's War Altar sucks dick. If his campaign effects were no upkeep for Flagellants and Flagellants gained armor piercing or even bonus against infantry in his army I'd say he'd be pretty good. But right now, sure they have high weapon strength, but really low melee attack.

Most of that damage misses and since cav, missiles and anything that isn't a trash unit will destroy them, even buffed, whats the point? Also they're way overpriced and tier 2.
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>>161234303
you take attrition just from walking though, not waiting there for a turn
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>>161234317
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So what does he look like under the armor?
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>>161234018
I can't go back to any TW save for M2 since playing Warhammer and going back to M2 is merely because of the Warhammer mod and the inbuilt internal trade system for M2 that breathes immersion into the campaign map.
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>>161234063
Wasn't he advertised with his mirror guard?

Where the fuck are they?
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>>161234443

a faggot
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>>161234324

They're Unbreakable, which is a hilariously powerful stat.

>>161234443

A buff human.
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>>161234390
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>>161234143
Also, how the fuck do you even download LME?
The depositfiles download takes over 10 fucking hours because they're huge jews and torrenting really fucking sucks.
The Gamefront links are all fucked too.
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>>161234487
I can't play M2 anyway, the campaign map gives me eye cancer.
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>>161234487

I hope they will caravans and shit like that to the campaign map again.
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>>161234120

See I also don't really have an issue with DLC for DLC either, but if I'm paying nearly $20 for a race pack, with the understanding that it wont be added to for some time or possibly never, then I want more for that price.

Why not have Drycha or whoever as a third LL choice?
Why not toss in 6-10 RoR?

Don't get me wrong I think the Wood Elves look great, but knowing they'll be out the gate behind other factions in terms of not being able to recruit RoR, or have more LLs it just seems a bit on the lame side and kind of inexplicable.
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>opening cinematic will only include first 4 factions

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
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>>161234520

>unbreakable

Sure, now reduce their cost from 500 to 300, and make their upkeep as cheap as spears and I'll agree they'd be an amazing tarpit. But even as a flanking damage dealer they suck.
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Is there any campaign more frustrating than chaos?

>awaken tribe makes them your military ally, but they never join your war and never fight your enemies
>instead they only fight each other
>immediately attack and subjugate them so they actually help
>all they do is make one stack and zerg rush it to the nearest enemy to get slaughtered instead of defending themselves or colonizing the empty ruins
>also can't leave them alone because for some reason the 6 stacks from skaeling and varg have decided not to bother the 8 stacks from ostland, kislev, midland, and nordland
>have to spend all my time babysitting them
>kislev sieges my ally's settlement, then me next to them
>for some reason they can reinforce with the besieging army but the sieged army is stuck, despite the fact that that would mean literally no one is sieging them during the battle
>oh by the way they're all outriders, FC militia, and flagellants because spearman/swordsman/normal units have disappeared entirely in the AI stacks
>autoresolve is completely fucked as usual
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>>161234443
smexy
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>>161111028
>They last for 5 - 10 minutes at the most
i've had them last longer but this was only in my skarsnik campaign. in my VC campaign I never had a battle go beyond 10min where wasn't massively out numbered.
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>>161234443

He's the geld prince, so dickless.
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>supposed to be the finest horse archers and indeed cavalrymen in all of the Old World
>Worse than Bretonnian peasants on horses with bows
>on par with or worse than Goblins on wolves

Why has CA neutered and cucked the Glade Riders, twg?
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Where did this map come from and is it official in any way?
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>>161235032

an anon made it using the datamind map of the new world and combined it with official warhammer maps
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>>161235032
It literally came from here.
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>>161233589
Same with different factions too im assuming?
Were just going to get the wood elves, and thats it.

They dropped some random factions with dwarfs and Greenskins, and gave the first 4 races RoR, and thats it.

Just a few random features plopped onto a couple of the races....
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>>161235006
You are being vague
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Mournhold City of light, city of magic!
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>>161235032
thats a pretty well done map whichever one of you made this, nice work
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>>161234230
Not to the base game, no. Most mods need it though and if you really want a vanilla plus campaign there's the kingdoms grand campaign mod.
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>>161235339
Oblivion was better.
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>>161234303
attila isn't as casual as warham when it comes to attrition
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>>161235434
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>>161113254
>medieval kingdoms campaign never
I'm waiting for this in order to play my first campaign of attila. I tried starting one yesterday but I was pretty 'meh' about it. Also I don't really like the family system in it. prefer the Med 2 system where you can leave it alone it'll be fine (though i've only ever played Modded Med 2 so I actually don't know how true that is in relation to vanilla Med 2)
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>>161233184

WELCOME TO ESTALIA GENTLEMEN
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>no historic tw game for a couple years
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH /twg/

>>161235434
absolutely fucking disgusting taste
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>>161235606
I think there is a mod that adds all m1212 units into AoC, its not quite the same, but its something
>Also I don't really like the family system in it. prefer the Med 2 system where you can leave it alone it'll be fine
why though?
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Just went back and played Shogun 2 a bit.

Remind me again why everyone complains about Warhammers sieges? Shogun sieges are literal cancer.
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>>161235968

>Remind me again why everyone complains about Warhammers sieges?

Because Attila got them right and Warhammer regressed from that?
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>>161235968
Not so loud, you'll wake up the M2 autist again.
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What's considered viable and non viable in multiplayer?
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>>161236107

Look at the OP
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Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
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>>161234018
Medieval 1
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>>161235706
what the h e double hockey sticks am i looking at here
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>>161236051
>M2 autist boogeyman
It's like I'm really on r*ddit
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>>161236303
I loved being able to give titles on Med1. Good memories.
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>>161235032

Oh boy I fucking wish that Albion gets a settlement
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>>161236192
What am I looking for?
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Daily reminder that Deathmaster Snikch can kill any single faction leader one on one in style. I can't wait to play as him in the second game.
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>>161234656
It's because you're paying for the campaign also not just the race.
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>>161235786
>why though?
I don't have an actual reason, I just don't care for it.
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>>161236374
There he is
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>>161236330
tower of silence

>>161236742
oh well, fair enough
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>>161236489
Snikch will never be an LL, maybe a special hero. If they start with two expect Queek and Thanquol, then the additions of Ikit Klaw and Throt.
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I feel like warhammers battle system could be fixed by making troops not route as fast. any one else agree?
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>>161237224

Thankfully you got a mod for that
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>>161236330
tower of silence
get spooked
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>>161236489
Nobody likes your rat mary sue.
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>>161236918
No it's actually me
get your imaginary boogeymen straight
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>>161234443
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>>161237286
>Thankfully you got a mod for that
actually? do you remember the name of it? is it one of those combat mods? cause I tried some of them and they didn't seem to do the trick for me. units still routed fast.
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>>161236034
>Because Attila got them right

Letting your archers fire into feckless enemy troops for 40 minutes from maximum range before engaging should not be any player's idea of right
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>>161234443
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>>161234750
They skew autoresolves something fierce, which might be something you could abuse.

I had a marauder stack get attacked by an army of 18 flagellants, 1 unit of spearmen, and the general, autoresolve told me I had no chance. Played the battle, kited the flaggs with horsemen, firing the whole time, ended up winning in a landslide.
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>>161237708
Atila is the best total war game out there and don't you forget it!
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>>161236489

Daily reminder that Grimgor Ironhide can solo the 2nd largest Skaven city all on his own. I can't wait to play as him and genocide Skaven in the second game.
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>>161235968
Because one game's sieges being shit doesn't excuse another's.
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>>161237714
I get that it's body horror and scary, but wouldn't something like that just fall over or at least be totally inefective in battle
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>>161236987
They better have Queek.

Who is going be the faction leader though?

Not like Skaven can ever agree on anything
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>>161238245
Thanquol will be the faction leader, most likely
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>>161237907

>almost lost to Greasus

Yeah, sure.

What a badass.
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>>161237829
It's a clusterfuck of border gore with 5 distinct faction types that field ridiculously ahistorical unit types

hisfags are clutching at straws while forgetting that the Shoguns were the only good TW games before Warhammer (haven't played Napoleon tho) all because they desperately seek a modicum of gravitas in a video game to prop up their non-existent self-worth by passing themselves off as "understanders".

TWW players just want to relive their childhood, really, cause Warhammer was one of those 90s trends like POG and MTG (today's Hearthstone) and there's a legion of dissatisfied, pauperised 30 year olds out there who just want to go back. TWW players are simple, joyful people when it comes down to it, while hisfags are frustrated autists with pretensions to historical and military science.

Consider this post, /his/. May it burn deep into your hearts and FESTER! MORTAL FOOOOOOLS!
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>>161236034
Attila might have done a good job with them but that doesn't matter if big "epic" siege battles never fucking happen. It happens way more often in TWW from my experience(mostly late game though)

Attila's town sieges are pretty good though and they happen often. Shame TWW didn't just port them over. I guess they would need to port over the fire system too or else those siege maps might have gotten a little inbalanced.
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>>161238436
YAMERO
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>>161238493

>but that doesn't matter if big "epic" siege battles never fucking happen. It happens way more often in TWW from my experience(mostly late game though)

All siege battles in Warhammer are equally non-epic

You're either playing a faction with decent missile units (Dwarfs, Empire) in which case they're a joke or you're not in which case they're a fucking chore.

That's only offensive sieges though, since defensive sieges literally NEVER happen.
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>>161236987
Those are all boring shit except for Ikit
>>161237510
Fuck off dumbass hater. Clan Eshin is the best clan and its lord took Thorgrim's head in fucking Karaz a Karak itself.
>>161237907
That's because Snikch was on a mission at the time green nigger.
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>>161238069
Unlike chaos spawns in Total Warhammer, fluff chaos spawn evolve all the time. They could literally grow a new leg to catch them if they fell over. Also, the Chaos God probably didn't really care if it was effective in combat or not - it is meant as a punishment.
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>playing DEI macedon with attila campaign map textures and the alexander music mod.
>mfw
brotherhood of man soon /twg/
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>>161237907
Grimgor is only slightly better than Queek in 8th since they dropped his attacks and some of his items.
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>>161238663
> since defensive sieges literally NEVER happen.

They happen quite often in the late game from my experience. Also I find the siege battles to have some fun in them. They work well at least. I had the most fun with them in the Steel Faith Overhaul mod though.
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>>161238678
>unironically liking reddit rats

can you please leave??
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>No lizardmen
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>>161234503
CA didn't want to model bodyguards and shit so they got rid of general units altogether.
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>>161234503
Nope
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>>161239278
Or maybe because Generals would be even more OP then they already are if they had a unit of high tier units with them.
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>>161239597
Maybe they should have left generals the way they were in previous titles.
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>People in this thread, RIGHT NOW, think that Skaven exist.
How ridiculous can you get? Skaven only exist in theory because they are just that, a theoretical race. Absolutely no proof of ratmen has ever been found, and claims to the contrary are rightfully dismissed. Why, just the other day some peasents came up to me and requested I look into rumors of these "ratmen" in a small hamlet near the edge of the Empire. When I got there, all I found was a normal village. I even spoke to one of the fellows there, a small hairy bloke with some manner of deformity (From Ostland, perhaps?) who assured me that any rumors of ratmen are unfounded and slanderous. When I returned to Reikland, I had the rumor mongers flogged for wasting my time. Unfortunately, I found out later that nearby Dwarfs had burned down the village for some perceived slight. Unfortunate, but my point still stands: Skaven don't exist, and you all should be ashamed of yourselves for spreading misinformation.
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>>161239630
That's not how fucking Warhammer is you moron. Lords are supposed to solo entire battalions of soldiers.
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>>161239630
how the fuck could you mount the generals then? CA handled it perfectly stop whining. Too fucking often people moan about shit when they couldn't suggest even half as good a solution.
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>>161239793
No it isn't, not even in table top.
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>>161239726
do (((they))) send a cheque or is it held in confidence?
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>>161239816
The solution is straight out of tabletop, embed lords and heroes into units. But CA probably couldn't figure out how to put two different stat lines into a single unit card.
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>>161240024
They can't even have units land or take off on or dismount. Of course then they said well then they would be overpowered so here's a fucking simple and genius solution, they move slower when they're on the ground you fucking retards.
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>>161239816
What does this even mean?? Generals can be mounted and dismounted in various TW games.
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>>161240024
Keep in mind you are trying to put 2 really different stat-lines together. Shoving Grimgor in with orc boyz means you are shoving 1 guy with a health bar comparable to the whole unit.

Having lords go wherever means I can micro units to bodyguard for them anyway. Auras can already buff all stats anyway so embedding isn't necessary for TT stat buffs
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I will riot if CA does not add unique rosters for Estalia, Tilea, Border Princes and Kislev soon.
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>>161240486

I know right?
It's a rather easy way to make new factions, without need to many new skeletons and shit.

I actually hope this is their next goal after Bretonnia since they said WE will be their biggest DLC for the game.
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>>161240024
you can do the same thing by grouping them together retard.
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>>161235706
Mod or actually in-game?
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>>161240342
right so lets have 8 general staff on fuckign gryphons when Franz is on deathclaw. You must be terminally retarded mate.
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>>161239597
Except Kremmler and Sigvald are garbage.
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>>161240778
>hurr, every general needs to have a bodyguard if one has one!

No. Giving Kremmler a unique wight king in his attachment would not make him OP, he'd still probably be still significantly worse than Mannfred or Vlad.

You're terminally retarded.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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>>161240778
fuck off apologist
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>>161238905
>in the Steel Faith Overhaul mod
does this make battles last longer? do enemies not route as quickly?
>>161238663
>since defensive sieges literally NEVER happen.
I've had them happen quite often late into my skarsnick campaign.
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>>161240486
>Border Princes
What would Border Princes even look like?
I mean Kislev are Slavs, Tilea is Spaghetti and Estalia are Spanish.
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Playing FOTS

How do into the naval combat, I fear I got a bit engorged on how Battlefleet Gothic did it and that had strict engagement ranges and behaviours

Hear, I can't tell when a ship is really in range because I can't tell if the ships are staying put or moving

Also why they all seem to go to target one flank
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>>161240647
Kislev for king and the warlord tier pricing, with ice magic, two legendary Lords and some unique stuff like bear cavalry and some other new units?
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>>161241202
Romania?
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>>161241000
>left generals the way they were in previous titles

Obviously moving goalposts to be obnoxious try to stick to your fucking arguments.

>>161241062
you bought it like everyone else here cunt.
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>>161234120
One needs to be well versed in ancient 1d4chan lore to really get this joke.
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>>161236489
>second game.

What second game?
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>>161240342
>Generals can be mounted and dismounted in various TW games.
actually? I don't remember that being an option in previous TW games.
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>>161241465
You're talking to more than one person dumbass.
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>>161241489
Warhammer expansion/standalone game
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Send in the chariots... Break their formation.

Send in the Calvary... Clean up the dregs.
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>>161238865
>>161238678
>>161237907

Give Big Green a break lads, let the fans at least keep that after Storm of Chaos got retconned
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>>161241428
Would be neat.
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>>161241553
then that person was ignorant, faggot.
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What the hell is going on in that SC2 thread
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>>161241592

So they have already announced there will be one?

Goe damn. This fucking game is gonna cost me 200-250€ in the end, won't it. Fucking merchant.
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>>161241764
You're an ignorant cock gobbler.
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>>161241465
I don't buy unfinished games and you don't know what moving goalposts means.
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>>161241809
Wait for a sale
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>>161241540
Medieval 1
Every game after Empire except for TW: Warhammer
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>>161241202
Border Princes are Austria, if you didn't get the hint from their crest with the black eagle on yellow background.

Romania is obviously VC.
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>>161241974
gonna have to check this out once I get a chance.
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>>161242056

>Border Princes are Austria

Not really

The Border Princes aren't actually a nation, it's hundreds of tiny independent principalities.
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>>161237708
thats literally what happens in warhammer if towers are downed, at least in attila they sally out sometimes

>>161238436
>oily gooks 2
>good
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>>161241861
>don't buy unfinished games

then get out the general. Never got the appeal of playing games well past their relevancy but Russians seem to enjoy it.
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>>161242708
Is there any real-world equivalent of such a nation around the renaissance era?
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>Gobbo Archers
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>>161242056
Border Princes are balkans, which makes sense, since they are pretty much all bandits and thugs.
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>>161240772
actually in game, as long as you or the AI actually builds it in a settlement it will be present in the town battle scene, like most other buildings

this here is a minor shrine for example
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>>161242886

Not really, at least not in Europe

It's basically the wild-west in a way, it's full of exiled nobles and brash merchant princes because the area is so dangerous that much of it is uninhabited and anyone can just go there, claim a bit of land and set themselves up as a Prince
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>>161242798
Sorry buddy but this isn't your safe space. Your obsession with Russians and perceived "relevancy" is pathetic too.
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>>161242975
Retract your statement or you're getting cut
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>transport ships can attack each other in Warhammer
so fucking stupid, I lost my entire upgraded army because of this (chaos)
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>>161241736
Orc fans are supposed to be the ones fun to be around with, if I wanted to talk with an insufferable idiot wanking about power levels I'd stick with an IW fan.
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I WANT CHAOS DWARF'S I WANT CHAOS DWARF'S!
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Okay what the hell game?
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>>161241809
They already announced there will be two, with DLC for each.
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>>161243008
>>161242975
Balkans might actually work for the Border Princes.
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>>161243557
I'm not sure how expect men with sharp sticks to beat garrisoned gunpowder weapons
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>>161243090
ok vlad!
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East Asia total war set during the 1200s would seriously be a good title. There’s a lot of parallels that can be drawn to Rome 2’s factions.

Southern Song Dynasty = Macedon
Taking Sino/Chinese culture as the equivalent to the Hellenic/Greek culture.

Jurchen Jin Dynasty = Parthia
Cavalry dominant, but can eventually field decent infantry.

Mongols = Saka/Sauromatae/Scythia
Horse archer spam incarnate. Alternatively may also be seen as Rome because they’re the “winners"

Western Xia/Tanguts = Seleucids
While it’s a mishmash of Chinese and Tangut/Steppe culture, but more Chinese. Seleucids are an Eastern-Hellenic hybrid, but more Hellenic.

Western Liao/Kara Khitan = Pontus
Chinese and Steppe culture mishmash, but more Steppe. Pontus is an Eastern-Hellenic hybrid but more Eastern.

Tibet = Armenia
Mountain kingdom, some of the heaviest cavalry of the Far East second to the Jin Dynasty (Armenian vs Parthian Cataphracts) but limited.

Genpei Japan = Epirus/Illyrians/Odrysian Kingdom/Dacians
Epirus because some Chinese influence, Illyrians because of as wako pirates raiding the lands to their west, and Odrysian because of their obsession with 2-handed polearms such as the naginata, which is like the Thracians with their rhomphaia. Dacians because their yumi bows aren’t that bad, but not stellar. Same can be said of the Dacians’ horse archery and foot archers. Also falxes.

Goryeo Kingdom = Bosphoran Kingdom
Located in the north, Chinese-influenced. Tends to get invaded by northern nomads. The Chinese once said that the Koreans had the best foot archers.

Southeast Asians = Celtics and Germanics and Iberian barbars
They’re relatively lighter in equipment, utilize javelins and falcata-like swords, and lack siege equipment and navies.

Dai Viet = Massilia
Southeast Asian faction with Chinese cultural influence.

Dali Kingdom = Colchis
Chinese-like mountain faction, but generally fields light troops
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>>161242975
delet
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>>161243931
chingchangchong is a shit setting
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>>161244008
Better than Shogun 2's
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>>161242961
100% Gobbo archers is the only legit army for Azhag.
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>>161244160
>typical chinese commute

I have lived in China and I can confirm.
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>>161244008
Chinese history is famous for strategy and tactics, there couldn't be a more suitable setting. From what CA have said it is difficult to imagine any other setting as appropriate.
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>>161244231
Can you confirm this
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>>161243793
Do you still think this is okay? They're the ones attacking now by the way.
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>>161244395
I am a new German and I can confirm
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>>161244395
Why would go to Africa?
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>>161244334
I do wonder what CA meant when they announced that the next game will be on an era they've never touched before.

Either we're going back in time or they're going to jump on the WW1 trend BF1 set.

Or we're gonna go Mongol-China
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>>161234584
Anyone got a different direct download link?
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>>161243557
Your units bar the Shogitai and Yari Kachi aren't great, and the auto-resolve heavily favors modern units in FotS. So, even though they're all shitty gun levy - gun levy is treated as being higher power to spear levy, despite how in practical use, spear levy are far superior.

You'll win once you tie them all down in melee, but it's just the way the auto-resolve balancing works. On the plus side, you're likely to pull off a heroic victory and cheese yourself some honour.
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>>161242886
Balkans
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>>161244514
Would only be interested in WWII, to be honest.
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>>161244572
I like 1 more than I like 2
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>>161244572
I really doubt they would. There are other game that do squad level combat better, and already own the niche.
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>>161244608
I like 2 more, because it has more interesting factions and better aesthetics.
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>>161233905

>unconquered

ya fuck'd up
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>>161244395
Australians can confirm it.
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Amazon wants 40 shekels for a box copy of Total Warhammer.
They also want 60 shekels for a Steam code.

It's been years since I bought a physical video game, I still get a Steam code if I buy the physical version, right?

40 pesos seems like a reasonably good deal
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>>161244334
>Chinese history is famous for strategy and tactics
and has zero appeal to normalfags and hell I personally don't want it either, I neither know nor care about their history
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>>161243931
Japan is not allowed
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>>161245098
Do you like Shogun 2

>>161245128
Yes they are allowed
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>>161245020
Yep, haven't bought games in a long time now but apparently it's becoming increasingly popular for companies to just have an empty case with a steam key in it. Not even a CD.
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>>161233105
Is that from redwall?
Fuck i loved reading that book series as a kid.
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>>161245304
That's good.

It seems kind of silly that amazon is essentially willing to pay me 20 bucks in exchange for freeing them of the shelf space that the plastic wrap for the code is taking up though
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>>161245251
>Do you like Shogun 2
no, FOTS was ok, but the setting is rather dull, whats with arr rook same and shit

but samurai have a weeb appeal, what do the chinks have?
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>>161244514
>trend BF1 set

RegimentofRenown: Harlem Hellfighters!
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Anyone else does "meat grinders" like me?
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>>161241089
>does this make battles last longer? do enemies not route as quickly?

It makes the battles last slightly longer and the unit engagement lasts longer without breaking so quick.

It's not super slow though.
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>>161243931
I hope it's set in the Han dynasty so /eagg/ gets revived.
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What a man has to do to find a quick battle match in TW Atilla?
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>>161245729
>what do the chinks have?
Yeah this is going to be hard to market as much as I'd like East Asia

Can appeal to Western gamers by letting them invade China
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>>161246163
bring back /twg/ mp
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>>161246163
>multiplayer
>in a Total War game
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>>161246163

>Quick matches
>In a game that isn't the latest entry in the series
>In a series that has never had a strong multiplayer community

I'm not sure what you expected.
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>>161232904
welcome to creative assembly's idea of making a game "hard". I just had to kill like 13 thousand fucking Africans before I could conquer their ONE province of dimmidi. That's right, a one-province faction pumped out 5 stacks before I conquered it, and I had to kill over 7000 Africans in the final siege alone. War starts with them sending two full stacks that my garrisons beat back. Then by the time I get an army over there, there's another stack already sent to one of my cities whicheck I beat back with my army. Thinking they were beaten now, I sent my stack in and saw the 7000+ strong defense of this irrelevant tiny desert town. Forced to hire another stack of mercenaries, I sent 5000 men to put them down and lost 2000 men in the battle.

Basically, AI economy is bullshit. No matter how small a faction, they'll have two full stacks at least. Watch legendoftotalwar and learn how to cheese a siege assault by sniping with massed crossbows and artillery. Other than that, if it's an uncalled settlement they'll all rush you anyway if you have artillery so you just beat their armies one by one before they join together, not too hard.

Games bullshit sure, but the human mind is not so easily defeated

(old post but I was reading the old thread without realizing there was a new one)
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>>161246251
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>>161246276
I can still get matches in Medieval 2 and Rome. It's too bad CA neutered their multiplayer completely after these two games. 8 player FFA was top fun.
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>>161244514
It'd really suck if it's only WW1.
1821-1922 would be kinda cool though.
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>>161246637
>1821-1922

That's what the Chinese modders are doing.

Well, at the best that the M2 engine will allow.
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>>161246274
TWW mp is actually pretty fun to play and watch. Some of the tournament battles are really cool
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>>161247045
If they out sort spell balance and tone down heroes a bit it could quite easily be the best Total war game to watch in multiplayer, just because the factions are way more diverse than they have been in other games.
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>>161243525
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>>161247157
Yeah it definitely isn't perfect. I really hope it gets more popular so CA would pay more attention to it(or the other way around). The item/ability customization patch was really neat of them.
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The Alans and Huns are moving further into my territory. Should I do something about it?
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>>161247485
nah your good just give them some pamphlets about the exciting life as a foederatus
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>>161247485
It might be worth to kill off the Alans. A war against them wouldn't be "endless" unlike a war against the huns.
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>>161246251
opium wars could work I suppose, though frankly their safest bet is euro focused setting, like age of discovery

>>161246279
in all honesty those armies are generally extremely low tier
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>>161247485
you should kill all and any hordes the moment they enter your clay, what the fuck are you doing anon? sopinae, iuvavum and savaria need to be improved asap with garrison buildings and the settlement tiers, forget about food balance let the region starve in fact do that across the entire eastern border and instantly declare war on anyone that approaches

otherwise they run deep into your territory, cause rebellions and unrest, and take a weak settlement becoming a major pain in the ass
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>>161247485
don't go to war with the Huns until attila takes command in like 420 or whatever, they get infinite stacks until you kill him twice in battle, then you can finish them off for good.

A good strategy before that is to beat the Hun stacks in battle, but don't finish them off. They get a new fullstack if they're decimated, but if you leave them with a couple beat up units, they'll replenish with mercs instead of getting a new tier 3 fullstack, and usually they don't encamp much so they'll stay beaten up. Personally I had all of their armies raiding the alps for 10 years after I beat up all their stacks like this. Too weak to face me, and unable to get more armies, they never confronted me again as soon as I put 5 fresh stacks at the bottom of the alps. They walked around and took snow attrition for decades until I found attila alone and killed him twice in the same turn, then the 9 beat up armies in the alps all ran away and were promptly eaten up by me and my allies. Within a few turns the Huns were done, and I only ever fought like two large battles against them.

This is by far the least tedious way to deal with them.
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With the tree being its own province, I wonder what it'll be like to burn it down? Gotta have its own map and it has a garrison. Are you excited to Elf genocide because I am.
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>>161248871
I need the lumber 2bh. Also they keep kidnapping future taxpayers and laborers and that has to stop.
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>>161248726
>>161248830
I see, thanks. I didn't see the Alans until now since I had my eyes glued to the Huns. I'll see if I can pull another stack to go with the other and get rid of the Alans.
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I was under the impression chariots are complete shit.

How are they in Warhammer?
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>>161248830
>420 or whatever

QUÉ PASO DE NADA JAJAJAJAJAJA
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>>161249273
kinda shit
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>>161248871
I dont understand the appeal of beastmemes, they are the only factions without any real unique gimmick, other than the ambush crap
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>>161249294
/lat/ get out, don't even bring your anime """memes"""
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>>161249273
They can do serious damage or distruption but they need so much micro. They are not really that viable because of that.
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>>161248871
It has its own razing animation apparently.

I hope Morghur doesn't completely invalidate Malagor.
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>>161249273

They require too much micromanagement, they'll do good damage and disrupt infantry but they just require too much attention

The AI will shrek you with them though.
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Haven't got Warhams yet.
Are Beastmen in the game even if you don't own the DLC?
I don't want to play as them just yet but I wouldn't mind them being on the map.
Same with Wood Elves for that matter.
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>>161249536

>Are Beastmen in the game even if you don't own the DLC?

Yes, the AI gets access to all the DLC even if you don't own it.
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>>161249536
Yeah but they're more like semiretarded bandits most of the time
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>>161249392
>mfw spamming generals bodyguard chariots in RTW and slaughtering peasants by the thousands by literally not even clicking attack but just telling them to run right through the enemy line and out the other side.

It was seriously cheesy as fuck but extremely effective.
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>>161249402
What happens if the tree dies with the Elves still alive? Or would that end it?

>>161249353
You are the irresponsible little brother of chaos and you can go wherever you want to fuck up shit. With no regions to manage its just sewing carnage.
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>>161249536

beastmen and any dlc are in the game no matter what. so you'll see them and wood elves.

to play them you'll need to buy the DLC.
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>>161233408
noice
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>>161249659
>You can rename the Oak of Ages.

I don't want to imply that i'll be renaming it after Durthu's penis, but I may.
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>>161249614
Pretty fluffy desu,
Beastmen are only ever a real thread when the local ruler doesn'*t have his shit together.

Even Kazrhak has no bigger ambition than his dick-measuring contest with Boris.
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>>161235006
muh "balance"

I'll just fix it myself with mods.
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>>161249536

Yes
But Beastmen are more like brigands that achieve shit and die without you even noticing
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>WELFS STILL NOT RELEASED
AHHHHHHH
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>>161234443
Ripped as hell, tons of piercings, probably not the number of nipples you expect.
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Whatever happened to Malagor in the end times, anyway? Given that it doesn't appear possible to kill him permanently.
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>>161246251
>western gamers give a shit about history

Majority couldn't give a fuck, Rome II was considered a disaster by most gamers despite the setting. In any case a lot of total war players knew nothing about warhammer and now love it, same goes for east asia or china. All CA has to do is appeal to stereotypes, i.e in Shogun it was a samurai on the cover, in a Chinese game they just need to slap Genghis Khan or a dynasty warriors emperor and peopel would eat that shit up,
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>>161250025
Simply forgotten about.
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>>161246438
I'm still mad warhammer doesn't have ffa. Its the perfect setting for it. Would make campaign a lot more interesting too at times. And I want avatar conquest back and the ability to customize my units. Add add that feature to single player too.
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>>161250190
simbly epik
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>>161250025

Do you mean Moghur?
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>>161250338
Okay, him too
I should write for GW
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>>161250190
>End times in a nutshell.
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>>161250025
IIRC, Beastmen burn down Athel Loren, get killed and the forest just immediatly grows back.

Kazhrak and Malagor get killed, Morghur is forgotten about.

Can't confirm this though, since I quit reading Endtime after hearing about Malekith.
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>>161250289

I would play the hell out of TW MP if it had FFA
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>>161250289
Just imagine you are in a greenskins campaign and you are bashing it out with 3 or 4 subfactions in the Badlands Bloodbowl
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>>161250025

Didn't he fuck around turning people into beastmen and then got a offscreen-tier death?
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>mfw no Halfling faction
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Does anyone here have leftover Grombrindal codes? Is he even worth getting?

>tfw no GW in the country
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>>161250190
Confirmed for not reading the End Times. Malagor Fucks Bretonnia then tries to defeat Kemmler and Mannfred (Chaos gods want him to stop summoning of Nagash) and as he approaches Nagash's summoning in Sylvania Mannfred manages to have him cross paths with Ungrim in the haunted forest and Ungrim smashes his army and both retreat allowing Nagash to get summoned.
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>>161249402
>I hope Morghur doesn't completely invalidate Malagor.

Why would he?

Are you one of those silly people who think that Morghur is a bray shaman?
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>>161250626

Asking for this too
Lurkers always get the fucking codes
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>>161250025
>>161250428

The Oak of Ages isn't destroyed by the Beastmen, when Archaon succeeds in destroying the world, the Oak of Ages is the very, very last thing that remains before nothing but void is left.
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>>161250626
>>161250664
just wait til next year to be honest
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>>161233513
Who's is in the middle?
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>tfw retaking Karak Eight Peaks as Belegar
>while listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0SPCd2TBJk
>tfw no grudge remains unsettled
Why is Dawi campaign always so comfy, lads?
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>>161251003
Malcolm
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>>161250685

I see a lot of words but nothing is really being said here. Who's the man referenced near the end there? Sigmar or Archaeon?
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>>161251252

The guy that grabs the world-heart is Sigmar
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>>161251107
Who?
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>>161251003
Poland
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>>161251007
Because WE IZ GOBBOZ
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>>161251362
I don't know, can you repeat the question?
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>>161251056
A little too cloudy
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>There are people who win the Civil War in Rome II and stay a Republic.

What's your excuse?
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>>161251653
>Rome II

What's your excuse?
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>>161251386
>>161251495
Why can't you faggots just answer a simple question?
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>>161251003
azhag
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>>161251752
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
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>>161251752
I don't know
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>>161251653
Julius a shit, the Senate did nothing wrong

The aesthetics of Ryse is so damn good
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>>161251923
>The aesthetics of Ryse is so damn good

it's really fucking not you massive pleb
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>>161251923
>The aesthetics of Ryse is so damn good
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>>161251749
I bet you love Empire.
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>>161252132
Damn, they even have irises
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So who are you gonna play first?

Orion
Durthu
Morghur

Which one?
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>>161251252
>Archaeon
>a globe of light escaping unseen past the vice grip of Chaos

some people really bought into the 'Archaeon is an atheist who hates Chaos most of all' meme hard
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>>161251749
Ebin
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>>161251923
Agreed
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>>161252225
Probably Orion, his skills look rather strong
I also want to see if ranged lords/heroes are actually decent at shooting things
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>>161251923
>>161252283

Does the game have massive battles like total warrior?
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>>161252283
>imma wear plate armor and some crazy-looking sci-fi gauntlets and my perfectly engineered-in-a-modern-factory shield
>but I'm not going to protect my arms with anything. I even have some mail underneath but for some reason I told the armorer to not make it extend all the way down my arms so that my enemies could easily cut my arm off, otherwise it wouldn't be fair
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>>161252225
Morghur for me. Haven't played the Meme men much yet, but if he starts out somewhere decent and with decent starting units he might be a lot of fun. Is he a beastman faction lord or is he like Bloody handz?
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>>161252225
Durthu. That is, if I was going to get the shitty neet elves.
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>>161252225
Orion is a fookin legend back in Couronne, m8, he could take on some Chaos-infused treeman any day.
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>>161252382
Not as big as Total Warrior (Especially Viking), but they're there.
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>>161251923
>Tiny shields
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>>161252545
t. historyfag
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>>161252545
It's fantasy roman, not practical military design.

It's only really for the main character anyway, the other stuff is alright.
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We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?
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>>161252558

Morghur is supposed to start in nordland
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>>161251923
DUDE

WHAT IF LIKE

AHAAHAUAHA

WHAT IF BOUDICIA ATTACKED ROME

AND

AAHAHAAAUH

SHE HAD ELEPHANTS AS WELL

BRO
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>>161252920
OVER THE ALPS PERHAPS?????
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>>161252545

Are all historyfags "no fun allowed" autists?
Fucking kill yourself.
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We'll always be slavers, won't we, Lammasu?
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>>161252656
Is it a decent game for $5? It's obviously going to wildly historically inaccurate but that didn't stop me from enjoying Gladiator.
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>>161253078
Not him, but honestly Ryse looks like complete garbage design wise even if you take it as fantasy where the practical realities don't matter and things are just supposed to look cool
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>>161253048
I DARE SAY THAT WOULD BE QUITE A FEAT
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>>161252920
But she did sack Rome?
Are you saying a woman can't sack Rome, you fucking sexist?
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>>161252893
Nordland is good enough for me.
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>>161253351
Gimme dat Old Gods relijun
Gimme dat Old Gods relijun
It's good enough for me
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Great weapons rangers, worth it or ass?
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>>161253159
For 5 bucks, yeah. But it's more of an interactive movie than an actual game.
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I have a weird issue with Total Attila.

When I move the camera on the campaign map the shadows below the trees start to flicker.

Was that normal?
I played about 500 hours of the game like a year ago, I'm on a different machine right now

Has anyone experienced this? Google yields nothing of use
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>>161252545
>armor autism

The most juicy source of autism tears
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>>161249536
Why do goats have rectangle eyes? Thats legitimately unsettling
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>>161253869
are your drivers up to date?
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>>161253078
>>161252825
>>161252736
>>161254049


So warhammer really did ruin this general, what a shame. This place used to be /his/-light, but I guess now it's filled with your typical tabletop 40k /v/tards that have probably only ever played TW warhammer and nothing else.

I bailed this general as soon as Warhammer came out, I was hoping you guys would make your own general but I guess that never came to pass. This place is literally a super popular general now, it used to be really slow and niche, what a goddamn travesty. All these fucking newfags that can't even appreciate some proper historical armor design
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>>161254140
I am using the Nvidia GeForce spyware and that says my drivers are all the way up to date
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>>161254196
Cool story bro, too bad you didn't post a pic of the games you like so much instead of whining about how "your" general doesn't have content about the games you like anymore
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>>161253250
>But she did sack Rome?
she never even left her stinking island, all she did is sack two undefended cities and beat one small roman force, the moment she went against a real legion led by a general she was crushed entirely despite outnumbering the romans by a huge number
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>>161254196
>He thinks everybody has to have armor autism
Here, for you
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>>161253236
how did you get those elephants?
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>>161254320
Listen you fucking sexist, you're wrong and you need to shut your mouth.
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>>161254421
Reminds me of generic mosou mooks for some reason
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>>161253869
I notice this all the time on most of the Warscape TWs. It's become less noticeable over time as I upgrade but it's still there.
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>>161254428
let an eastern province rebel, then puppeted them, the playthrough reached the stage when there was nothing left to do, so I went to great lengths just to make a meme pic
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>>161254196
You know the sad thing is this probably isnt a Shintoist and anon really is this fucking autistic.

What is it about Chans that attracts these anti-fun autists that complain all the time?
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>>161254316
this reads like the post of someone who has been on this side of this same type of discussion before. Clearly you're a hardened worthless sack of human garbage, you people are just as unforgivably stupid, unlikable, horrible people that literally nobody likes because that's how the warhammer fanbase has ALWAYS been. Nobody fucking likes you retards, and now a classy fucking community like TW gets infected by your shit. It's the biggest travesty in /vg/ history.
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>>161254596
>shintoist
fucking fuck fuck.
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>>161254650
Keep those screens coming bro, I'm enjoying them.

Also
>/twg/
>TWC
>examples of classy communities
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>>161253159
It's pretty as fuck, the story is quite good (Mix of Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator and Batman), and the Arena mode is a good timesink that you can dive into when you want some dumb fun. I feel like i've got my moneys worth, and I'm a stingy bastard.

Also the boss battles feel like actual fights.
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>>161252225

Orion
I want to meme armies with skirmishers and archers
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>>161254845
better than anything related to warhammer desu, the tabletop community is so shit that GW shops have to put up signs asking people not to stink up the place
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>>161254650
People are going to shit on you ITT but you're right and this thread used to be way better. I've met other people who agree even if they like Warhammer. /mbg/ is still good though and not full of apologists that defend terrible business practices
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>>161254650
>>161254992

Then how about how you make a historical total war general, sperglord?

See how well that goes.
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When the fuck are we getting the imperial dragon?
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>>161254992
I can't even fathom the quality content you keep gifting us tonight anon
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>>161254943

>That Needless break of formation
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>>161253078

Ryse isn't "fun" you fucking mong, it's a completely templated, uncreative story that does nothing to utilize it's setting.
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>>161254943
PULLO STAY IN FORMATION
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>>161254136
So they can see the rape in a wider aspect ratio.
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>>161252827
Is that an actual quote from the game?
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>>161254845
>that horribly annoying, snobby response that reeks of a guy that's made hundreds of identical "empty insult" responses for probably months
>he's developed an entire narrative where somehow warhammer faggots ARENT the most subhuman garbage faggots in all of fantasy.
>he probably doesn't care that warhammer is the most unoriginal, uncreative, lazy fucking lore in the history of fantasy.
>he's probably actually read those AWFUL books written for teenagers
>he actually enjoys discussing the lore of "All of these races are just stereotypes of actual nations from history: the world"
>he didn't abandon the series when the writer was actually so ungodly fucking edgy that he made the bad guys win like the edgy fucking teenager-pandering trash warhammer is.
>he defends this game ITT because it's the only reason he has any reason to post ITT because it's the only TW game he's ever played, but he probably doesn't actually play it anymore because it's the worst tw war game ever with virtually no replay value. It's a polished turd with no features and 20$ faction DLC
>he probably hasn't realize yet that the world would be better off if he killed himself
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>>161254845
>Keep those screens coming bro, I'm enjoying them.
was he the one uploading them? thought he wouldn't be since Ryse doesn't satisfy history. at least according to this anon >>161252545.

also are we talking about the Ryse son of Rome screens?
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>>161255063
Maybe before Rome II's release, after that it hovered between being nearly dead and shitposting between Warscape and Medieval 2.

>I hate historyfags who disagree with me, but I hate fantasy even more
If nothing else you can at least thank them for uniting you autists under one banner when before you just hated each other.
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>>161255345
>a guy that's made hundreds of identical "empty insult" responses for probably months
>he's developed an entire narrative where somehow warhammer faggots ARENT the most subhuman garbage faggots in all of fantasy.
Witness true, unfiltered autism.
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>>161254196
whats wrong with >>161252825 ? seems fine to me.
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>>161255063
I miss some of the serious discussions that would happen here.

Of course, after Rome 2 came out there was a seemingly endless torrent of shit-posting, but even back then in the face of that travesty some serious discussions could shine through. Even more so after Rome 2 became less shit.

Now it's all smothered out. Thanks for the heads up about /mbg/, I've been meaning to get back into M&B, especially if their general has the comfy qualities /twg/ used to have before it turned into /whg/.
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>>161255345
>he's developed an entire narrative

You could probably give us a few lessons about it yourself anon. Are you ok?
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>>161255656
>>161255531
>these no-effort "if I respond last I win" posts

fucking scum. SCUM
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>>161254650
>He forgot
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Hey, understanders, what's going on in this thr...
Oh.
Ohh, no.
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>>161254196
While I think the /his/fag is the lowest form of life on /vg/ and should be routed out from his /twg/ lair and chased back to whatever alt-history quagmire he spawned in, I must agree that there is nothing more offensive to the gentleman WHFB player than the smelly, unwashed, dumb 40k enthusiast with his boxy tanks and his legions of identical space marines.

40k is the worst enemy of the Warhammer franchise. 40k players are the wargaming equivalent of /his/fags who are into Ancient Egypt or WWII - the lowest common denominator who will blindly ignore the imaginative heights of fantasy and follow the heard into buying yet more blue, bullet-shaped space muhreens. My seething disgust at the very fact that 40k even exists is too much to put into words.
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>>161255345
Is slav posting leaking again? I swear this is probably the most autistic post I've seen in quite awhile. And that's kind of saying something considering some of the stuff prior to Welves announcement.
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>>161255439
No anon, I'm mocking him like he deserves because he just whines about things he doesn't like instead of actually providing the content he wants to see and discuss. People like that produce nothing worth anything and should just disappear.
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>>161255607
Post Rome 2 wasn't so bad right before Attila and a few months right after. Lots of people posting campaigns from all sorts of games.
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>>161255485
>Maybe before Rome II's release, after that it hovered between being nearly dead and shitposting between Warscape and Medieval 2.
not true, there was a period of peace and campaign posting somewhere in the middle
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Any tips to play as a horde faction in Attila ?

Let's say, the ostrogoths?
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>>161255715
It seems you have put way too much thought into this. If there is anyone who has created any narrative, it's you.
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>>161255607
>miss some of the serious discussions that would happen here.
examples?
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aaaaaah the good ol' times
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>>161255971
source pls
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>>161255816
You're not exactly helping your case with that attitude anon
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>>161255819
>this argument ad populum mixed with an appeal to normality to his perceived like-minded thinkers
>these lazy "mass spam" responses

Warhammer fags need to die in a fire.
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>>161256021
Well someone came on a picture of a tripfag and uploaded it for everyone to see.
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>>161256021
Ironically, most of the serious discussion was about WW1/2, unrelated to TW
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Oh cool, /twg/ is back. Everything was pretty gay when we were nice to eachother.
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>>161256115
And you need to calm down.
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>>161255958
keep two stacks close enough to each other to reinforce, make sure to get gothic warband if you are a goth a-fucking-sap, sack a lot before settling down, don't bother with the raid stance its fucking trash, dont bother with replenishment of heavily damaged units, merge and re-recruit, Iberia is the safest and comfiest location to settle, though I prefer egypt
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>>161255816
>imaginative heights of fantasy

This is bait right? 40k does indeed have its flaws, but saying that fantasy is superior in an originality is fucking retarded. Fantasy was great, but it wore its influences on its sleeve, and for all that is wrong with 40k these days, it's actually done a decent job differentiating itself.

And your whole "muh space marines" arguement is really too retarded for me to believe you seriously typed it out.
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>>161256115
I don't even play warhammer and you've been shitting up this thread way more than they have. Way to go, faggot.
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I proper enjoy when you just happen to be in a thread when some legit /twg/ history happens, makes me feel special

godspeed Ryse Autist, may your armours be historically accurate and your spears overhand.
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Warhammer is actually made by historyfags 2bh. That's why did the best thing in the world by adding fantasy landsknechts
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>>161255313
No. He's taking the line from Fox and the Hound.
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>>161254943
Dragon Blade tier and I liked that movie
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THE THREAD WAS FILLED WITH SMOKE AND BLOOD
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GET OUT OF MY GENERAL FANTASYFAGS REEEEEEEE
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>>161256389
yeah, too bad it got deleted for celestial space marines
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>>161256021
Overarm/underarm, miscellaneous historical discussions centric to the games/mods, tactical discussions relating to the game & historical context, discussion and responses when people posted about games that weren't the newest thing (ie, Warhammer - this being because people had actually played more than one entry in the series), osprey dumps, actual fairly regular campaign posting.

/twg/ felt much more diverse in content.

It wasn't perfect, but it was definitely much better than how things are now.
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>>161255590
not protecting arms is retarded, they are one of the body parts most likely to be hit, nobody would not protect their arms in a historical setting
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>>161256220
This always happens whenever a new Warhammer DLC is about to come out. The retards who are really anti-warhammer all pop out, do some rants, and then retreat back into their holes once people stop replying to their autism.

It'll go back to being gay when the DLC actually comes out.
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History and Warhammer should exist alongside each other

Ryse is a shit game with shit designs that has nothing whatsoever to do with Total War.
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>>161256389
>Warhammer is actually made by historyfags

40k too
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remember the shitto-kun, the seleucid vacation and the migration fad it spawned, the venetian shitposting, wre suffering and minor religion conversion, and arguments about collision
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>>161256229
fuck you the time for being calm is over, we sit in literal shit as we speak

>>161256329
This thread deserves to fucking burn. I'd rather it die than have you warhammer shits carry on our legacy. Seriously, let twg die and make a warhammer general, at least the good name of classic /twg/ will remain in our memory untainted by the warhammer locusts
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>>161256473
>>161255742
>tfw I was here when /twg/ branched off from civ general

>tfw gook
RIP tripfriend
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>>161256541
Stop falseflagging kudasai


Take a break from 4chan dude. This isn't good for you
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>>161256516
>Ryse is a shit game with shit designs that has nothing whatsoever to do with Total War.
I'll drink to that
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G-Goblins?
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>>161256315
GW even recently started the 30k spinoff franchise featuring literally nothing but Space Muhreens because that is all that players want to play. 40k is literally one type of model over and over again, there's nothing more to it, and the playerbase doesn't even seem to mind. I don't know what this Lemming mental loop is all about, but it looks scary.

I want to hear why you 40k players on here chose it over Fantasy, because I never got the appeal myself.
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>>161256706
DIS STINKS
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>>161256529
> the great wardog cuckening
>PONTUS
> " raze everything and move to britain"

we really do come up with some tasty memes, and I really miss shitto-kun :/
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>>161256507
That's a dumb thing to say. I don't think any Roman armor ever included arm protection beyond long sleeves. Greeks certainly didn't, and don't even mention rando barbarian tribes.
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>>161256610
I have been here since it was a thread(/gsg/) on /int/ and I really like TWW.
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>>161256706
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>>161256648
I don't even know who that is, mcfucking kill yourself.

Seriously people, stop calling this general /twg/, it's false advertising. It's not total war general anymore.
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>>161255308
kek
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>>161256212
truly important.
>>161256214
okay then. where they good discussions or where they like /pol/ discussions?
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>>161256768
Stockholm Syndrome
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>>161255345

CA and dlc defending was pretty normal when Attila was released 2bh.
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G O B L I N S
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>>161256706
>Record scratch
>Freeze frame
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>>161256712
I like games with loose formations more and space fantasy is more relevant to my interests.
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>>161256743
well that may be right, but in the pic he is wearing leg protection so he should also be wearing arm protection

i will admit tho that i was more thinking about middle age armor then ancient my mistake
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>>161256802
Too bad for all the people posting total war, then.
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Vampire Counts is the most fun you can have in a campaign.

Empire and Chaos are the least fun you can have.

Prove me right.
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>>161256802
Fuck off. We Osprey now.
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>>161256770
>tfw no Goblin launcher for Greenskins
I need it tbqh
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>>161255345
It's almost as though you think that Warhammer isn't a better 80s Tolkien rip than dogshit like Wheel of Time, Shannara and Hyperion that literally vanished out of pop culture without leaving a single meme, unlike WH.
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>>161252225
Durthu in the grand campaign, Orion in the mini-campaign
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>>161256860
???
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>>161256969
>no Goblin launcher for Greenskins
What do you think a Doomdiver is?
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>>161256976
Warhammer survived because it got the edgy teenager crowd. Seriously, I only ever met one warhammer fag in my entire life, and he was literally THE WEIRDEST KID IN SCHOOL. Like the fucking weirdest person you'll ever meet. That's my impression of warhammer fags, that one extremely weird kid that walked around reading his 40k books and playing in the school band
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>>161256941
The Empire campaign is one of the most fun if just for the thematics of staving off the hordes of monsters and chaos with nothing but steel, faith and gunpower plus some magic and monsters but pretend that they don't count
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>>161256940
I had this as my desktop background for nearly a year
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>>161257025
Ok yeah but I want to chuck Goblins against their will into the enemy.
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>>161256846
They were quite good, expecially because bob and ivan were contained in /wgg/
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>>161256941
It's fun to master the early game as Empire.
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>>161253236
MADNESS! HE'D LOSE HALF HIS FORCES TO ATTRITION ALONE!
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>>161256712
I'm guessing you've never actually taken a look at 30k because that comment on them being all the same because they Space Marines is frankly retarded. The Legions in 30k all play and look differently. The Ultramarine models, who have been the vanilla SM chapter for 40k for a long time, look distinctly Roman. The Word Bearers Gal Vorbak speak for themselves.

As for 40k, acting all that's there is soace marines if also idiotic. People love the setting for far more than just the SM even if they are the popular faction.

Even among the Imperial forces there's a lot of variety. You can now play as IG, the Deathwatch, the forces of the Mechanicus, Imperial Agents (now including Custodes and Sisters of Silence), and a Sisters of Battle (if you're a masochist).

And nice job of ignoring the six non-human factions too anon.
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>>161257073
I feel like you're talking about me. Are you talking about me?
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>>161256960
Yay!
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>>161256941
Nah, Empire is great due to all the diplomatic options at your disposal, they also have the most fun roster.
Chaos, however is completely shit and so are Beastmemes. Horde factions are just too bland and repetitive to play more than once.
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>>161257234
> HAHA, who's "just wearing fucking t-shirts" now!?
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>When you ambush at quest battle location

Pretty neat.
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>>161256610
>modern /twg/ won't understand a single one of the references in this onion of an image.
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>>161257275
>>161256960
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>>161257379
you should've gotten pics of the battle. would've been cool.
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>>161257471
I'm sure there's still a few of us oldies around my friend

>>161257503
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>>161255345
Feels like you have waited for this thread for a while. Planning out everything you wanted to say to the fantasyfags. Thinking about it every day. Pretty sad 2bh.
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>>161256516
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>>161256610
>EB briefs
oh dog, I'd completely forgotten that one

what have you done to me
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>>161257471
you're right I don't. teach me the history of /twg/. pls
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>>161256473
Thats a catchy song.

But im afraid it puts me on a watchlist.
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>>161255345
Aww yeah, there's powerful autism at work here.
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>>161257471
>tfw I'm modern /twg/ and only visited this thread for the first time in July, after which I became regular
>tfw I post about TWW exclusively
>tfw I've actually studied history in college IRL and have a dedicated shelf for historical works at home
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>>161257471
I come back occasionally then leave when I realize most of the people that made /twg/ great are long gone. Does meloncat still post here?
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>>161256516
This 2bh. It can't compete with fantasy landsknechts at all.
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>>161256423
>Their kings are not permanent. They select and appoint the most worthy man. If there are unexpected calamities in the kingdom, such as frequent extraordinary winds or rains, he is unceremoniously rejected and replaced. The one who has been dismissed quietly accepts his demotion, and is not angry. The people of this country are all tall and honest. They resemble the people of the Middle Kingdom and that is why this kingdom is called Da Qin.
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>>161257756
Oh shit, I lost that pic

>>161257883
Not really?
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>>161257793
>The people of this country are all tall and honest.
>romanlets
Just how short was the ancient chinaman?
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>>161257793
Gook and Slav old tripfags.
CA dev once came in here and apologised for Rome II.
Gay shit.
Gook spamming china shit.
Officially Licensed Europa Barbarorum Action Briefsâ„¢
Hegemony spamming.
/gsg/ raids.
Segmentata wars.
Antiochus
Draculebro
>EB2 will never be released
Opinions turning on a whim.
/greeklove/ spammer.
Shameful dispray.
EB2 fags stoking drama.

The list goes on.
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I am an oldfag but I pretty much do the same except for the studying history thing. I think me being a historyfag was the reason I got into Warhammer instead of other fantasy settings. The Empire is so neat.
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Why are you faggots pretending this is bad?

Did you forget Baptistanon?
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total war newfag here
how fucked will i be if i buy Total Warhammer with no intention of buying the DLC?
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I hate Muslims who disagree with me but I hate the Saxons even more.

t. Charlemagne
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>>161258030
Meant for >>161257942
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>>161257883
I thought tripfags are frowned upon in 4chan?
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>>161258093
Reminder that the lutheran church is the one true church.
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Dumping my vintage meme folder.
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>>161258086
Meant to reply to >>161257878
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>>161258129
Depends on weather or not you like most of the classic races. There's also a shitload of FLC, so not fucked at all, I'd say.
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>>161258129
You will have only 5 factions with one of them being dogshit and will have to pay $20 per new faction
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>>161256610
>tfw I don't even think of this as old.

Generals on /v/ and /int/. Now that is old.
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action briefs
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>>161258335
what do you think of /twg/ now?
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>>161258030
The part of Rome that the Chinese saw was mostly Syria, Constantinople and areas around, they never described the city of Rome and probably dealt mostly with indigenous peoples and high officials who lived better than most Romans.

But to answer that question the Chinese probably were pretty short on average.
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>>161257883
>meloncat
nah, he hasn't posted in a very long time, FOTE is dead

>>161258093
dont fucking mention him, that guy being gone if a blessing

>>161258193
he didn't actually tripfag around here much, we just knew his profile name in steam because he is a modder
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>>161258086
>>161257878
>tfw playing Age of empires demos in grade school got me into history
>tfw use to read the history book whenever I could
I need to get back into reading /his/books
Ive been starting to read up on Feudall military history books agian at university but I feel so behind at times.
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>>161253869
Can anyone else provide help?

The only solution I have found is to turn off the shadows completely, and having everything on max but no shadows at all is really stupid, especially in the battles

>>161254548
Are you sure?

I can put all the things on max and every time I zoom in or move the camera on the campaign map the shadows start moving around, it's like dancing fire
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>>161258217
Me too

PARTY HARD
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>>161258193
He was working on FotE mod, it was necessary and proper to identify him. Similar to Mousillon-anon who made those VC reskin mods.
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Quest Battle Gameplay tommorow?
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>>161258517
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>>161256941
Dwarf are the least fun by a massive margin.

Boring playstyle, boring units and way to easy game.

VC is best though.
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>>161258093

SSSSHHHHHH!

He might hear you!
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>>161258391
Better than rome 2 launch and some time after.

The thing is. /twg/ wasn't really /twg/ back when "it" was on /int/ and /v/. The "culture" or whatever of /twg/ is kinda recent. The good thing about the old times is that there almost no shitposting(except for the "what game is this?") People posted all their germanies and medieval 2 games.
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>>161258547
He didn't trip
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>>161258631
Probably.
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>>161258369
tell me this is not real...

I refuse to believe EB underwear is a thing
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>>161258729
Also have to add. It is also better than the time just before the /gsg/ schism. Shitposting galore.
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>>161258631
I'm hoping for some mini campaign footage. As someone who really likes mini campaings, I am praying that they don't fuck it up like they did with An Eye for an Eye.
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>>161259012
Was /gsg/ as terrible back then as it is now?
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKRbi2ovDY

I have never heard the full version of this song.

Anyone know how the hell this song came to be, why did Charlemagne Lee make this.
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>>161259204
Lee wanted to do a metal album before he died
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>>161258369
>>161258930

Remember when half the thread would get triggered whenever someone said horos were balloons

>>161259204
>>161259171
Holy fuck these are old memes
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>>161259204

Christopher Lee loves Charlemagne and he loves metal, why wouldn't he combine the two?
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>>161259068
All the way back and the early /vg/ days? Nope. It's fucking sad how bad it became with the steam group raiding and the german genocide wank(just to name a few). While I think being annoyed at all the german game posts was totally justified, it went too far later on.

Been a while since I have been there though so I can't really compare the state of it now with /gsg/ all the way back.
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>>161259394
>>161259335

I would never have guessed.

Bravo Lee you made a quality meme

RIP 2k15
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>>161258490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XbUycms66k

I found this Youtube video that showcases what is happening in fucking Napoopan

Apparently this is just a fact of life with warscape that I didn't notice because I was playing on a toaster without shadows

oh well
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>>161259343
Fucking pontus
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>>161258729
so best time of "/twg/" where not when it was truly /twg/ (on /vg/) but when it was on /int/ and /v/ ( was /v/ as bad then as it is now?) then?
Also I take it then you f don't mind the constant warhammer posting then?
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>>161259728
Remember when the EB team actually traveled to something-stan for Sauromatae and Saka Rauka research purposes
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>>161259204
Christopher Lee loves Charlemagne.
Christopher Lee loves metal.
Christopher Lee is also related to Charlemagne.
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>>161259524

Christopher Lee was too based for this world

>tfw you will never get to hear him touring with the Tolkien Ensemble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QqcyuWHW9o
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>>161259427
It's pretty terrible, the general is pretty much sustained by shitposting and memery. They did manage to shitpost Stellaris discussion into the then-dead /civ4xg/ which was pretty hilarious.
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I just installed LME4 for Napoopan, what's a good first campaign to play?
1792 France looks pretty hard and overwhelming.
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>>161259623
>so best time of "/twg/" where not when it was truly /twg/ (on /vg/) but when it was on /int/ and /v/ ( was /v/ as bad then as it is now?) then?

I guess. People were so fucking calm back then.

/v/ has always been kinda shit. Like people talked a lot more about games when it was fucking full of generals. At the same time it became pretty silly so I think the creation of /gsg/ was justified.

Kek I remember Stalker general being a complete shitfest a lot of the time while /gsg/ was a paradise. Weird as hell.
>Also I take it then you f don't mind the constant warhammer posting then?

No, because I like the game. I am biased I guess. I do wish people posted more of the other games though. I guess I will have to do it too.
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>>161258217
Please do.
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TO YOUR DUTIES

MEN
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>>161259935
God damn his voice is amazing.
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>>161259921
>loves
>loves
>is
I have some bad news, anon.
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>>161256941
VC>Empire>Skarsnik>Greenskins>Belegar>Dawi>Beastmen>Chaos
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>my men capture a tower
>when towers are captured they collapse and kill everyone inside
>this happens
wew
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>YOU WILL MARCH UNTIL YOUR FEEL BLEED
>THEN YOU'LL MARCH SOME MORE
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>>161260610

He just returned to his people.
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>>161260958
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>161261008
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>>161261161
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>>161259538
Can anyone confirm or deny if the shadow flicker thing is normal or not?

I have it too, is my computer broken?
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>>161261161
God-tier
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>>161258720
Probably just spoilt with the other factions, Dwarfs should be fun by the standards of the other games. It's just Pagan gameplay from Attila but with the gunplay of FOTS.
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>>161256423

what movie?
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>>161261161
>>161261265
>>161261330
Fotosketcher days
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>>161261786
I loved how many bad ones you could find on TWC
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>>161260081
pls rspnd
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>>161260610
The eternal Emperor never dies.
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>>161261967
Austria's always in a fun situation. You usually get to pick which side you want to fight and there are plenty of enemies within reach on either.
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>>161256770
>Oh, hi Griznik.
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fantasyfags gtfo
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>>161260082
>>161259623
>>161260048
It's paradox's fault

I remember as far back as around the early days of CK2 there were already faggots talking about pirating Paradox games who clearly blew in from /v/ the day before

Then paradox had to go and justify them by pumping out assloads of pointless DLC and subpar content at full price
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>>161262512

no
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Bless you anons for posting stuff. Have one of mine before I go to bed.
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>>161262512
agreed
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>>161261378
please respond
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>>161262819
Pretty sure it happens for me too but I can check in a bit.
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>Urakami
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>>161234443

You're asking the wrong question

It's not about what's under the armor, but HOW MANY there are
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>>161262134
Thanks friendo
Which campaign should I go for?
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>>161261702
Dragon Blade kek
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>>161263704

... how many what?
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It is now Official. Athel Loren is radiant in its resplendence. Delicate young boys cavort for the delight of their mistresses, and the luminescence of sprites and pixies flicker through the enchanted wood. The Sisters of Twilight languorously uncurl from their embrace; panpipes flute a tune of merriment throughout the halls of the summerstrand. The diverting indignities of gorposting and Deep-Thinking Goblins are a receding memory, a windblown fragment of the season past. All Asrai make ready for frolic and improductivity; indolence is the watchword, and none can be found but are feverishly, zealously committed to inactivity.

From the Oak of Ages, the Eternal Queen watches and is warmed by the celebrations of her people. In such a festive air, Orion's rebirth cannot but be imminent; Ariel's handmaidens ceaselessly weave flowers into her hair, presenting an endless procession of styles and and aspects by which their beloved monarch might greet her consort. Those that retain a sense of time and worldly events look to his arrival; Naieth's divinations serve only to confirm what the jubilant atmosphere of the forest makes evident.

Wood Elves Confirmed.
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>>161263785
I can't remember the details of the different campaigns, probably the one that gives you the widest/most sandbox situation.
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>>161264004
How many armor.
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>>161262952
please do
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>>161264262
After lots of soul searching, I have finally come to a realization. I don't hate anime, I hate obnoxious weeaboos.
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>>161257676

You know I like these Osprey books and went to buy a couple once.

Motherfuckers are expensive

>>161264004

Penises, anon

We're talking about penises
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Anyone else kinda bummed we didn't get any 'wonders' in TW: WH?

The lore is so chock full of fluffy bits on famous places you'd think there'd be tons
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>>161265432
tw:w is incredibly barebones and shallow. They didn't put anything extra into it at all. attila felt like a love letter to fans, where it just piled on quality-of-life features and really seemed to respond to Rome 2 criticism. War hammer was just a cash in for the warhammer audience and it worked
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>>161265020
Yeah I'm pretty sure that's because the shadow maps are at a very low resolution. That's normal and won't change until CA changes something on their end.
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>>161241365
Naval combat is difficult at first. Just make sure to have the ship in the red lighted area.

The one flank target makes the ship sink faster due to concentrated firepower in that area.
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>>161265048
have you considered reddit.com/r/totalwar? I think you might fit in better there
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>>161265795
I have considered purging this thread of all weebs.
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>>161265690
>>161265690
Total War: Warhammer 2010 IC when?
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>>161265048
Isn't that the general consensus?

You are missing out on a lot, some animes are god-tier
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>>161265986
'90s anime is fine with me
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>>161263958
>Dragon Blade
is that movie any good?
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>>161266048
shinji get in the robot
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F-Franz senpai...
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ROMA INVICTA
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Rolling for who to play as in Rome: Total War:

1-10: House of Julii
11-20: House of Brutii
21-30: House of Scipii
30-35: Carthage
36-40: Greek Cities
41-45: Macedon
46-50: Sellyokids
51-55: Egypt
56-60: Gaul
61-65: Britons
66-70: Germans
71-75: Thrace
76-80: Dacia
81-85: Scythia
86-90: Parthia
91-95: Armenia
96-100: FUCKING PONTUS
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>>161266146

It's hilarious but is in no way intended to be.
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>>161266576
>30% chance of rome
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>>161266576
Dacia it is.
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>>161266473

Holy shit how much gold did you have to stuff down his pants to make that work?
>>
Why didn't the Romans just submit to the superior Etruscans?
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Is it worth it to install FOTE is I'm going to play as the romans?
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>>161266696
I put them in order I guess. Tried to put them at the front so that it would be less likely to play as them. Happy I got someone I never played before.
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>>161266851
>superior Etruscans
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>>161266938
It's true. Rome just took everything they could from the Etruscans and the Greeks. If they loved Etruscans and Greeks so much, they should have just submitted to one of them.
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>>161266851
They would have had to if they actually unified properly, but instead they decided to be fiercely independent and allow their city states to fall one by one to roman legions without forming a proper confederation to match them.
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So do we know what the post-battle options will be for the Wood Elves?

We've got 'eat captives' for beastmen and greenskins, impressment for DA EMPRAH and domination for the Vampires, but I can't really imagine what elfs would do to their captives except stab them
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>>161267087
If they were so superior why did they lose
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>>161267181
Rape
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>>161267087
it's better to be a soldier and learn philosophy later than to be a philosopher and try to learn soldiering later. That's basically why the Romans beat the greeks, because they were brutes that adopted logic instead of being nerds that tried to adopt strength.
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Will CA stop trying to pursue fucking graphical upgrades and rather give us more units on the field?

It ain't like 95% of their userbase can play the fucking game maxed to begin with
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>>161267321
Romans were brutes who really liked to build and design things and had an autistic obsession with keeping things orderly (just look at how their armies camped).
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>>161267181

Feed them to trees

I'm serious
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>>161267403
I can't even play the game
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>>161266486
Do they shadows flicker if you move the camera?

Just making sure
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>>161267407
they were good at adopting the tactics of their rivals. Basically the logic was: "the greeks have a really good tactical battle strategy! If we learn it, ours will be better because we're tougher than they are!"

basically, the Romans made the greeks do all the work on the group project and then stole the show and did all the talking at the presentation.
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>>161267609
I haven't noticed any
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>>161267403
They did that though. Warhammer looks much worse than Attila and runs significantly better as result.
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>>161267630
What caused their decline then? Explain with school terms of you could
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>>161267818
>runs significantly better as result
warhammer runs way worse than attila for me desu
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>>161267449
I want to cook her a meal made from dungeon creatures.
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>>161267181
>We've got 'eat captives' for beastmen and greenskins

Actually meant to ask is it wrong that I do this every time?

It seems like the other options are presumably there for a reason but I've never seen the point
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where my fellow GRUMBLERS at?
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Guys, I'm playing my first game of LME in Napoopan as Prussia in 1805.

Why the fuck can't I move ANY of my armies into another region? Not even neighouring regions. I got the movement points but I just get an X curser when I move it to another region while having an army selected.
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>>161268253
Best ending.
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>>161267956
>joining the roman legions? let the barbars do it
>caring for the empire? let the senate do it
>hostile tribes on the borders? let them fight eachother
>corruption running rampart? somebody will surely fix it
>massive migrations? cheap labor!
they forgot all values that allowed them to become such a powerful empire in the first place, with the leaders (especially the emperor) oblivious to the effort it actually requires to run such a massive empire, when the enemy went from spearchucking rabble to a semi-organized warband their fate was sealed
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>>161267987
Same.
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>>161268253
>Mfw I have the entirety of the badlands wrapped up before my co-op partner even starts on their third province.
>Also mfw I make Archaon sit down while my Empire partner is still fighting off VC.
>His quest to kill 5 greenskin armies/garrisons for Ghal Maraz gets canceled.
The only gripe I have with Dwarfs in Grand Campaign is how long it takes to get to the fun units. I almost never get to use gyrobombers and flame cannons.
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Is there anything more beautiful than romans in formation?
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>>161267956
The narrative of decline in Gibbon is overstated. Mismanagement at the top caused other powers to take hold in the West but the "Empire" continued on relatively strong and even had a resurgence under Justinian I and Belisarius the Cuck.
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Can i run attila on a not shit quality with these specs?
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>>161269361
Rome in flames.
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>>161269449
>>>/bar/
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>>161269449
DELET
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>>161269401
ur fucked
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>>161269449
absolutely barbaric
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>>161256492
Now we have G O B L I N S, Goblins..., The Deep Thinking Goblin, Why do I love __ so much?, mannlet, DO NOT MOCK ME, IN THE BOOK, tiedup foreverial dwarf, dominated by a best elf, NEETposting, poo poo pee pee rape goats, Tomb Kings When? And SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS,

Plus, all the historical stuff is still welcome. It's not like anything was lost.
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>>161269401
probably, i managed with worse

you won't be able to just set it to ultra and go though

refunds are a thing if it runs terribly for some reason
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>>161269604
HOW fucked?
>>
Favorite unit in warhammer go
Hard mode: From a faction you hate
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>>161269506
>>161269538
>>161269640
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>>161269780
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>>161269715
Can you post your specs? I really wanted to play it and loot some stuff with Saxons or Danes
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>>161269780
>Hard mode: From a faction you hate

Chosen
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>>161269839
#notmyking
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>>161269780
Dragon ogre shaggoth
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Warhammer or Attila for my first time playing a TW game
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>>161270095
attila
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>>161269867
I played almost 500 hours on a 660 and an AMD processor

30 fps average and battles with too many people are not good at all, I put the settings somewhere on low/medium depending on the setting, with lots of post processing shit turned off

I have since upgraded my computer
>>
>>161270095
Warhammer
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>>161270095
Shogun 2 is the best entry to the series

Attila is my personal favorite but it's not very beginner friendly, I would argue that it's the most difficult Total War title
>>
>>161270095
Shogun 2
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>>161267403
>playing medieval/medieval 2
>it's almost jarring when my game runs silky smooth while looking sharp instead of the laggy, aliased mess of the new games
Shoulda stuck with sprite graphics and upped the unit count.
>>
>>161270095
Warhammer might be easier to get into. It also runs better so that's a plus.

Attila is pretty good too. A lot of the factions got tough starts though.
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>>161270095

Shogun 1 you fucking scrub
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>>161269780
The one time I play Chaos, a 17 stack gets jumped by 2 full stacks of VC. One unit of Chosen killed 656 units and walked away after the fight. So them, I guess.
Screenshot spoiled to hide my bad cav/hero management and my shit taste in mods.
>>161270095
Warhammer is easier to get into, but they're both fun.
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>>161270095
Attila or Shogun 2
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Vampire Counts is the best trailer for Warhammer. Prove me wrong.
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>>161270456
No Karl Franz.
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>>161270456
Yeah because Averland is in it.
>>
>>161270456

Either that or Empire

Other factions got shit
>>
>>161270296
>>161270257
>>161270436
>>161270436
alright, shogun 2 then attila it is
do i need all the dlc for attila or can i play it just vanilla and be fine
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>>161269780
>Hard mode: From a faction you hate

Hellstorm rockets
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>400 AD
>Celtic shipbuilding
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>>161270456
>>161270497
>>161270565
but that's not "it's a bit of a slog.. BUT ITLL BE WORTH IT"
>>
>>161270456
no, the announcement trailer is and will always be
>OH MIGHTY SIGMAR
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>>161270565
I dunno, Dwarf trailer was pretty good with Angry Thorgrim and some of the various action shots like the artillery.
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>>161270378
>The fucking Vlad-ranks
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>>161270567
The AI has all the DLC so you are fighting the same guys regardless, buy DLC if you want to play as people, Sand DLC is considered best

>mini campaign DLC
Charlemagne: very good
Last Roman: play if you are a Byzaboo and want to reconquer Western Rome as based Belasarius, you really don't need it though
>>
>>161270645
SHIPBUILDING YOU KNOW. FOOKIN THATCHER.
>>
I literally only just realised napoleon also has a normal grand campaign. Im so pissed i only realised it now. Never played this game properly despite owning it brand new cos i hated structured small campaigns
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>>161270685

It's not bad, but the human and vampire ones hit you over the head with their personality - you can actually get a sense of Karl's charisma and Mannfred's dread. Dorf is just kind of what you expect and its adequate.

Still baffled how they managed to make Chaos and Greenskins seem so goddamn boring in comparison
>>
>>161270954
I dunno, I got a real sense of frustration from the dorf one. Like shit never changes for them and Thorgrim really wants it to - he wants to take back the old holds and show the dorfs aren't weak.

But maybe im reading too much into it. Still, Chaos and Greenies are both really bad, like damn. Greenskins doesn't even show off the shit that Grimgor should be famous for. It should just be him in the thick of it in various fights, just wrecking shit and having a grand time of it.

Chaos should have focused on Archaon and unmaking the world or something. Instead we get Kholek growling about some dumb shit.

The Welfs one is good too I think.
>>
Could one hypothetically trade Grombrindal codes for friendship?
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Should I go on a campaign of genocide against the Germans? I know for a fact that the AI in Attila doesn't like to colonize, so would this give me a nice wasteland that I can give my back on?
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>>161270456
you are wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjzLuddjIUI
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>>161271206

Yes, but no one would want to be friends with you.
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>>161271475
>Our rules have changed

Have a combination of 4 other words from CA brought as much of a shitstorm as this?
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>>161271375
I like alliterations so I think you should do it.

Could you please zoom in and move the camera around a little bit to check if the shadows around the trees sort of move weird?
>>
How mad would a wood elf get if she saw me chopping down a tree?
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>>161270660
which trailer was that?
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>>161271750
Greenskins
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>>161271584
How did it bring a shitstorm?
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>>161271626
Trees are behave normally.
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>>161270615
>Hard mode: From a faction you hate

Gob-Lobber
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>>161271475

Oh I thought we were talking about the faction specific trailers.

Yeah that one's pretty good - would have liked to see them put that effort into the Chaos faction trailer since they're the main antagonists of the bloody game
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>>161271773
Everything. Everything about total warhammer and a fantasy total war in general.
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>>161270378
what background mod is that?
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>>161271881

Well we were only waiting for it since what, 2008?
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>>161271584
Last playable faction: Pontus.
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>>161271584
Chaos Day One DLC
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>>161271994
Savage
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>>161271475
Why did they go with the boring female narrator voice for the ingame opening?
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>>161272080
>>161272080
These are good
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>>161272080

The fact that they still claim not to get why everyone got so upset about that hurts my brain
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>>161271881
Wouldn't say it was one big shitstorm. There has been a few smaller ones here and there, like slavposter. One really angry guy does some weird shit because he has some unrelated personal issues. Wouldn't call that big.
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>>161265432
there are some wonders, like hel fenn, pillar of bone, golden obelisk etc. It's just that most of them are quest battles so you see them regardless and don't often fight on the maps with regular armies
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>>161272120
good question, still wondering why the fuck they shat over such a glorious voice

I think it popped up during a Q&A, but of course, was not answered
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>>161271584
Feeling green? Feeling short?
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>>161271584
Jabberslythe cost equals Charlemagne.
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>>161265432
What do you mean wonders? You got several special buildings and the quest battle maps also work as wonders. Lots of neat details there.
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>>161271893
I don't use any background mods. If I had to guess, I think Radious did it.No bully pls
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>>161272318
>don't often fight on the maps with regular armies

They happen a lot more often than the special maps in rome 2 and Attila. I get that hell fenn battle and black fire pass all the time. Even done an ambush on hell fenn
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>>161272482
Dwarfs & Greenskins needed more unique buildings.

Great Horn of Karak Hirn comes to mind.
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>>161272360
Feeling grim?
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>>161272261
There is no slavposter, it's just a boogeyman to make yourself feel better whenever someone posts negative comments about Warhammer.
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>>161265690
You can actually do stuff with the "wonders" in TWW though. And the custom battle maps happen more often.

Hadrian's Wall is a long fucking hole in the ground in the battle map in Attila. That particular thing doesn't scream love-letter.
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>>161272250
At least they changed it. Hopefully they will stick with the 2 week early adopters bonus over the preorder.
>>
>>161272892
>Boogeyman

Yeah, maybe now. He was real months ago though. A shitposter with consistently bad english and excessive use of periods. He even went into age of sigmar general to get "help" or whatever, in the most cringeworthy way possible.

http://4archive.org/board/tg/thread/43465833#p43474174
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>>161272903
>muh visuals

wew lad
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>>161273284
But isn't that the fucking point? What the hell
>>
>>161273095
Hopefully they start releasing feature complete games rather than barebones DLC platforms.
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>>161273381
Did you not figure out how the wonders work?
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>>161273270

>Also, may be some advices or help (if they are orks, than our tjread needs something like space marines) to d rivr thek back for a while, and return good old days of historixsl twg?
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>>161273489
They gave you some small buffs in rome 2 and Attila. Is that the ideal?
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>>161270314
>try to play Medieval 2 with maxed settings and huge unit size
>10fps in small battles and 4 in big ones
I need to upgrade this PC
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>>161272903
Oh wow. Wonder if it ever got fixed.
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>>161273425
I can't think of a single game they've released that fits that description.
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>empire peasants honestly think rat-men are real

silly manthings
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>>161274267
Every game before Empire
Medieval 2 was very buggy on launch but it was packed with content.
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>mobile testudo: the game

Can't fuck with these formations
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>>161274513
I wanna arty that formation!
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>>161274475
Attila was great though? isn't also better than Med 2?
>>
>>161274475
>very buggy on launch

Still is 2bh. It really feels like they outsourced it to an australian branch. It did have a decent amount of content though.
>>
Is there a way to turn off rank fire in Medieval 2? It's making Beginning of the End Times unplayable and I want to have cozy fun with Skaven
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>>161274631
Campaign map was pretty questionable before they added a bunch of factions rebalancing the campaign like white huns.
>>
>>161274579
You can't, you silly barbarian

You get a t-shirt, a shield, 2 javelins and some disease, now get out there and break through that roman line
>>
>>161274702
There's still some bugs in siege maps but it's nothing like launch M2.
>>
>>161274847
The charge bug and the crashes were pretty bad yeah. Still a lot of issues they haven't fixed like pikes and some unit responsiveness.
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>>161274727
it's still one of the best total wars though. isn't it?
>>
>>161274952

AAAAAAAUGH don't get me started on pikes

That was such a bizarre oversight

>>161275019

Yes. Best mods too
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>>161275019
Why do you ask like that?

You can like it if you want.
>>
>>161274952
>some unit responsiveness.
thought that was a 'feature' for realism
>>
>>161275145
Some funny people would tell you that. Or CA.
>>
>>161275019
It's the worst. Cool mods though.
>>
>>161275131
idk. just the way /twg/ talks about it and Med 2 had my curious.
>>
>>161275112
>>161275365
>Best mods too
>Cool mods though.

Soon
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>>161275145
>Some funny people would tell you that
you mean like people on /twg/?
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>>161275450
>>
>>161275570
>Giants

How the mighty have fallen.
>>
>>161275365
>>161275112

What mods are worth checking out?
>>
>>161275539
I guess or /v/. /v/ total war threads can be really wacky.
>>
>>161275539
was meant for >>161275246
>>
>>161275765
For which game?
>>
>>161275765
They are not out yet or finished.

All the good big mods comes out really late for total war games.

Fall of the Eagles
Medieval kingdoms
Ancient Empires
>>
>>161276323

Medieval 2
>>
>>161276441
Stainless Steel is good for a vanilla++ experience. Broken Crescent is the best one that focuses on the crusades, and Third Age is probably the best total conversion overall and has a ton of submods, unless you can't stand fantasy/LOTR. I've heard Bellum Crucis is good but I haven't tried it personally.
>>
>>161276731
why is Stainless Steel such a pain in the fucking ass to install
>>
>>161276731

>Stainless Steel is good for a vanilla++ experience.

This

It actually makes the Byzantines worth playing
>>
>>161275019
I would say so at least for the total conversions. I think MTW is still better mechanically.

>>161275145
It was one of the things they advertised before it came out iirc, along with bringing back features from MTW that were stripped in RTW like impassable terrain. Really shows that the seeds of decline started with Rome.
>>
>>161276994
Because it's old.
>>
>>161276994

Because you're using Steam, KEVIN
>>
>>161275765
Bellum Crucis
Broken Crescent
Thera
Rage of Dark Gods
EB2
>>
>>161277052
>It was one of the things they advertised before it came out iirc

Pretty sure they didn't advertise gunpowder units being that buggy and unresponsive.
>>
>>161277172

>EB2

Wow did that actually get finished?
>>
>>161275765
>>161276441
RAWTENALP
L
A
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E
T
W
A
R
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>>161276441
>>161275765
Wait weren't those people talking about Attila when they said "cool/best mods"

Like pretty sure this post is talking about Attila >>161274727
>>
>>161277108
Even off of steam it's a massive fucking pain
>>
>>161277214
No but I'm pretty sure they advertised the weighty feel of the game. Too lazy to dig up interviews and check.
>>
>>161275765
Hyrule Total War
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Turn 412
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>>161277214
How did we go from this....
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>>161278150
to this?
>>
>>161278307
CA fell for the 3D graphics meme
>>
>>161278150
>>161278307
To be fair, sprites are much easier to animate than 3d models. How do you think that games like, say Fallout, have much depth in its first iterations than their latest? Sprites and texts are easier to create than models and VAs. Of course CA is going to fumble about in their switch to 3d.
>>
>>161278150
agreed
next expansion better be sprites or I'm never playing TW again
>>
>Likes Elves
>-5 Leadership when fighting Elves

>mfw
>>
>>161279057
>Dawi
>Likes Greenskins trait

Belegar, bring me my book.
>>
>>161278307
eh, it was still early 3D
yeah they fucked it up, but its much fucking better now
>>
>>161279241

How do you even write that one down?
>>
What's the difference between Socii Hastati and Hastati?
>>
>>161278786
Sprites are not easier to animate than 3D models unless you are talking about indie pixelshit. In the case of the first two TW games though the sprites originally came from 3D models. Fallout's depth has nothing to do with its graphics but its mechanics. Fallout used lots of real life models digitized into the game and had a $3 million budget.
>>
>>161279241

The traits don't make any sense. They could at the very least imply the person is scared or has an aversion to fighting the race.

But to suggest a race like the dwarfs likes the greenskins is just plain wrong.
>>
>>161279057
>>161279241

It would've been better if they named it "Likes fighting Greenskins" and so on
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>>161279554
Early 3D is 1994, not 2006. How can you even consider that early 3D???
>>
>>161279783
I meant for CA
why the fuck was Med2 such a clusterfuck compared to Rome 1 anyway? Pathfinding and shit like that
>>
>>161279641
>>and had a $3 million budget.
And how much of that budget went into the story, or, god forbid, more voice actors?
>>
>>161279995

>tfw can hear that faggot romans voice in every 2nd dwarf character
>>
>>161279995
Pulling this out of my ass because I can't be bothered to look for a source but either Leonard Boyarsky or Tim Cain said most of the budget went into the art.
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>>161279630
one is socii and one isn't
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I just got all the Shogun 2 stuff, as someone with basically no knowledge of Japanese history what are the canon factions to play as in each campaign?
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>>161280602
thnx
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>>161280664

Tokugawa in vanilla S2.
>>
>>161280664
The Tokugawa won vanilla
Imperials won FotS
>>
ROME HAS CONQUERED
>>
>>161280664
The Choshu and Satsuma were dominant in the early Imperial Japanese military so play as one of them.
>>
>>161279976
Different dev team and a revamped engine. There's a lot of mods that improve it at least. Also it still wasn't early 3D for CA. They had released some 3D sports games years before.
>>
feel like warhammer and ity's expansions are gonna be Rome 2 and Attila/AoC. First game is really bad/cash cow try to improve it via updates. next Game improves upon the first one in almost every way.
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>This replenish speed
How do I speed this up? Do I have to dock it at a city or does it need a military jettie?
>>
>>161280664
The Oda clan technically won the Sengoku Jidai, but were swiftly usurped by the Tokugawa clan who established their own Shogunate and ruled Japan for over 250 years before the Americans came and ruined everything.
>>
>>161281939
Units replenish faster in places that can recruit them. Navies also replenish faster based on your level of control of the local ocean, there are contested, shared and controlled sea regions.
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>>161281939
Navies replenish extremely slowly because ships were hard to build.
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>>161280763
>>161281148
>>161281997
>>161280707
Thanks lads.
>>
>>161278307
They know they have an audience that will buy their game every single time so they get their games to resemble something that could be functional with a little work, and then release it as-is.

Every video game company eventually does this that's had success. Blizzard, Square, etc. Sadly indie companies are the only place left where devs actually TRY
>>
>>161280664
Rise of the Samurai, you want to play as the Kamakuru Minamoto clan.

Shogun 2, you can choose between Oda Clan or Tokugawa Clan. Oda Nobunaga is basically the reason why Japan was able to be reunified, but once Oda was dead and Toyotomi Hideyoshi finished the conquest (and then died), Tokugawa Clan fought one last war/battle to become the dominant force in Japan and start the Tokugawa Shogunate.

Fall of the Samurai, you want to play as an Imperial Clan and stay Imperial. Satsuma or Choshu would be the best choice.
>>
Did the late imperial legions favor bows, crossbows or slings for their dedicated ranged units? Or did they just give everyone 10 plumbata and call it good.
>>
In Shogun 2, if a enemy armies spams bows is it worth just charging them or is it better to just do a skirmish battle even though you'll inevitably lose?
>>
do i just wait for chaos to rip through the empire and zhurbar or go for them head on? im playing dwarfs btw
>>
>>161282745
You can go after them yourself, but you probably have a few grudges against the Empire. Feel free to just let them die to Chaos.
>>
New Thread
>>161282997
>>161282997
>>161282997
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>>161270378
>GRAVE
>GUARD
>ARCHERS
>(ARMOURED)
Just install SFO for fuck's sake
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>>161279641
>Sprites are not easier to animate than 3D models
Take a look at this faggot
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