/domg/ - Dominions General

I don't suppose I can make an army carry supplies between provinces?

>>161265442
Nope. Get an endless bag of wine, cauldron of broth, or a fuckton of N1 indies

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChroniclesEA

fite me irl

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>>161265442
No, but you can research construction level 4.

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We're doing this. Our first game will be next saturday, versus /rlg/. Look forward to it, if only because we'll have some new aesthetics stuff!

>>161265687
5 out of 8 experts agree that you should join this game now!

>>161265798
Oh shit, the literally only two teams I care about facing off.

>>161265454
I need a higher res version of this.

>>161265061
>I only made this because you're doing your turn
Heh. That's what you think.

SQUIDWAAAAAAAAAARD

why did you put the pelt on your bishop fish and then send him to the front lines? literally a game changer

>>161265673
>>161265761
I know about the items it just feels kinda dumb you can't carry supplies

>>161266454

Makes a certain amount of sense. Supply lines weren't really a thing until comparatively recently. Armies would generally live off the land. And note: forts DO boost supply in their surroundings. Everywhere else, the infrastructure just doesn't exist.

>>161266454
It's actually pretty accurate to medieval warfare, supply chains were difficult to co-ordinate back then, so you'd generally just acquire food from the surrounding area, whether by foraging, or by stealing/buying from locals.

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Come on, don't die immediately /domg/.

>>161268618
Only if bretonnia, slaanesh and wood elves play their turns

Red, do your turn.

You have 2 provinces, for fuck's sake. TWO!

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>48h first turn

This is the worst meme.

>>161270256
The delays a good thing if those Bret knights haven't been fixed.

>>161265798
What other aesthetics do we need?

PS: Switch our goalhorn to 100 hydras for novelty

>>161270787
I just want to continue my knife fight with Altdorf. Fuck the bretonnians.

>>161270851

is it really a knife fight if one party keeps talking about how craaaaaazy they are but does nothing other than run away

>>161265798
Who's in our group? We won't recognize all the shitty abbreviations on /vg/, you know.

>>161270915
Hey, you're the one attacking me mang. You started this. I don't want no trouble.

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>>161265798
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_7
Schedule's up.

>>161270802
It's pretty much all being taken care of by the VGL aesthetics council, if you wanted to help I guess you could check out the VGL discord and get in contact with them, the link to it is on the VGL7 wiki page I just linked to.

>>161270945
XCOM, fighting games and roguelikes.

On close inspection it's just wood elves left now. So they're the ones who need to die. Then again, who even likes wood elves anyway?

>>161271042
>>161271285

If you don't want trouble, don't pick overpowered nations, you punk

>>161271402
Says the one who told me how to make 'em overpowered.

>>161270787
I might AI if the knights get "fixed." This nation blows without fiery bows on everything.

The replies to my last post dismissed a duo-bless for Berytos in favor of a mono. So I compiled a list of the most min/max mono bless chassis. I can't decide between a mono-bless expander or mono-bless scales.

Mono Bless Imprisoned

Dom 6 +10 Scales
D9 Demilich

Dom 6 +9 Scales
B9 Fountain
D9 St Underworld
E9B1 Idol
S9F1 Gylph

Dom 5 +9 Scales
E9S2 Monument
F9E1/E9F1 Myrmecoleon
D9 Raven

Dom 6 +8 Scales
N9E2 St Fert
F9E2 St War

Dom 5 +8 scales
W9N2/N9W2 Wadjet
S9E3 St Order
S9W2 Oracle
E9B1/B9E1 Maneater
F9S2/S9F2 Lion
F9A2 Phoenix

Mono Bless Awake

Dom 6 +2
F9E1/E9F1
Myrmecoleon

Dom 5 +3 Scales

F9 Solar Serpent
E9 Erf Snek
B9 Melquart
D9 Raven
D9 Snek

Dom 5 +2 Scales
W9/N9 Wadjet
N9/E9/B9 Bull
N9/A9 Criosphinx
E9/D9 Doggo
F9E3/ E9F3 Myrmecoleon

Dom 6 +1 Scales
E9S1/S9E1 Shedu
B9E1/E9B1 Maneater
F9S2/S9F2 Lion

Dom 5 +1 Scales
E9S3/S9E3 Shedu
E9B3/B9E3 Maneater
F9S3/S9F3 Lion

>>161266454
>>161266824

>Fortress-based supply depends on the province's proximity to a fortress. If the province in question is within four provinces of a fort, fortress-based supply is added to the population-based supply calculated above. This depends on the fortress' Admin rating (see section on fortresses below) and uses the formula (Administration * 4) / (Distance + 1). Only the highest fortress-based supply is used if there is more than one nearby fortress.

>>161234671
>>161235009
Not sure if you're still around, but some advice if you are.
>I'm not sure how important formations are/what a good formation is except the one bit about elephants in the guide
Overall formation of your army depends what you're planning to do with it and what you expect your enemy to have. Rushing down the enemy with elite troops is a lot different from sitting back and letting your mages nuke the enemy.

For squad formations,
Use box if you don't want any other formation, or if you want to buff troops efficiently.
Use line defensively and to reduce damage from enemy arrows/evocations. It makes your units move much slower, don't use it if your troops need to get in melee quick.
Use skirmish if you want to reduce damage from enemy ranged attacks but don't want your units to move slowly.

Double and Sparse Line have situational uses, don't worry about those for now.

>buildings? what.
Build the cheapest fort you can make. Add a temple and lab. Don't build forts adjacent to each other, don't build temples/labs outside of forts.

That should work well enough to get you started.
>magic? what.
Hard to give advice without writing a massive essay, magic is really complex. Ask for a specific nation which you want to play and we can do more.

>magic items? I understand this! I just have no idea what research to prioritize to craft them
Construction lets you craft magic items. Every even level (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) gives you new items to craft. Level 8 items are artifacts, you can only forge one per turn and only one of each can exist.

>the fucking unit stat screen remains moonspeak to me still
Attack/Defense are the most important things there. Those indicate chance to hit/dodge attacks respectively.

HP, strength, and their weapons/armor are also important. HP should be obvious, strength and weapons determine damage dealt, armor prevents enemies dealing damage to you.

The rest you can mostly ignore.

>>161273010
I don't have an answer for your question, but I'd suggest you take a few more points in secondary magic paths.

e.g.
>N9E2 St Fert
Making that N9E4 gives you +2 reinvig on sacreds.
>W9N2/N9W2 Wadjet
Making that W9N4 gives you +4hp on sacreds, and lets you break into nature magic.

Both of those would cost you about a scale at most.

>tarrasque gets hit by a curse of the frog prince
>exploding dice
>feels bad man
>killed later

so since summod turns the tarrasque into a unique commander, will casting awaken tarrasque summon up a frog now?

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How do I thug a Skratti?

>>161274130
It's actually +3 hp but this is good advice nonetheless.
The value of 4 path minor blesses should not be ignored.

>>161265687

I joined as Tien'Chi

ni hao

>>161274130
Yes that's a good point. I'm wondering what kind of tweaking is in order; obviously there are some good minor blesses, but what about dom score? I haven't done enough testing with sacreds to know if dom 5, 6 or 7+ is better for maximizing Colossi.

In my most recent tests I was recruiting 2 Elephants, 2 Colossi, and 2 archers a turn, with indie commanders and priest as leaders as necessary, but I'm not sure this is optimal. Maybe it's better to get 5 sacreds and no eles, or all eles and no sacreds until expansion is done.

>>161266381
Probably a mistake when merging armies. He was supposed to be in the back spamming Smite.

>>161274272
Nope. I got the tarrasque back.
But he has a new name for some reason.

>>161274272
Believe not, based on how doomhorrors work.

The unique commander mechanic is more fun than I thought it would be. I wish there were more.

Yo Ur I don't wanna fight, fuck off and return my province

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>>161274345
Pick N9 bless..

Use frost brand/vine shield/shroud/some kind of helmet/flying boots/maybe ring of regen. Alternatively, don't use a shroud and craft some armor.

Change shape to humanoid werewolf.

Script to liquid body/quicken self/maybe breath of winter.

Done.

yo squidward i figured out what happened

frenris pelt makes the person wearing it berserk, even though illfraud forgot to mention that in the item stats

fucking illfraud

Which nations were destroyed by Ermor in MA and didn't survive until LA?

>>161274565
ni hao ma
literally all the Chinese I know

>>161275508
Well fug, I guess that was an item I shouldn't have forged to begin with. Or trapped him behind a wall of something slow. Oh well, live and learn.

>>161276105
None

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I did a thing.

>>161277426
que picardia

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>>161277426
I know that feel anon

>>161275304
>>161277426
Why is it orange? It's a nice color but I'm wondering if there's any significance.

>>161276105
Ermor destroyed Bery in EA and that was about it

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChroniclesEA
2 more needed. A perfect opportunity to fulfill your lifelong dream of playing in an EA game on /domg/

>>161265974
domg and what

we'd better beat domg
serpent of chaos will summon uniques and center the ball to sigmund (again) despite their stupid meme quadbless

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>>161277915
The color of Ophan's attack animation. I can make it any color you want though.

>>161278234
Do we get Dwarf Fortress's elephants by virtue of them being a roguelike as well or are we on our own.

I feel like we need to match /domg/'s elephant memes 1:1 and Dwarf Fortress is one of the few games capable of that.

Damn you /twg/!

Is there a sort of general guide on where to put points at pretender creation?

>>161278984
Steam community hub has "creating your god" guide, I think. There can't be a lot of general advice though, most things you'll want to pick are nation-specific.

This game is pure insanity. I know there's something cool within, but the weird control scheme and complete lack of giving a fuck about the player makes it incredibly hard to learn to play.

>>161279175
Thanks man

>>161279545
>This game is pure insanity.
That's how I felt after reading the spell lists

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Here you go, Pythium. Here's your proof. I eagerly await my payroll.

I can't even express how predictable that was, Mari. I hope you realize that we made peace with my jewish friend, and now we're 1v1. Oh, I'll really enjoy what's coming next. Do you think predicting your raiding is all I did this turn? Think again.

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>>161279762

>>161278984

Most general advice: Find out what the strengths and weaknesses of your nation is. Do you have strong mages and spells, but weak expansion potential? You might need an awake pretender that can fight.

Got unique spells you can't easily access with your national mages? Maybe make a god that can go for them.

Got potentially powerful sacred units? Build a major bless after their strengths(nature bless for high HP sacreds, water bless for sacreds with good kill potential, etc)


Scales are fairly straightforward, but also depends on your nations needs. Do you rely on high resource troops, get prod. How much depends on how good these troops are.

No brainers are almost always Growth 3. This will just help you immensely towards mid-lategame. It will just exponentially increase your income. Order 3 is also good if you have the points for it, it never hurts to have more money, but for some nations more money is mandatory to get anywhere. Others might not require it as much. If money is not a huge issue, a popular build is Misfortune 3 coupled with Luck 3, because it increases event chance, and luck increases the chance for every event to be beneficial.

Magic is mostly important for factions that have small mages with bad research. If your de-facto research mage has 7RP and you run drain 2, he'll only have 5RP, which will hurt your research immensely. If your de-facto researchers has something like 13 research, that drain won't hurt as much. Equally magic makes cheap inexpensive researchers into research powerhouses, so if rushing specific spells is in your strategy, magic might be well worth taking.

There are always exceptions that thrive on weird scales, like Kalisa and Yomi love Turmoil, Arco are lazy Greeks and research better in Sloth, and MA Ulm + Man fucking hate magic and can work unimpeded in Drain scales.

>>161279762

Great job elves! I'll send over pearls, and there'll be even more to be had if you keep posting your success. Without provinces I can't really see much.

Furthermore, I believe that Marignon must be destroyed.

>>161279545
Right there with you bro. Picked it up on sale. Have no fucking clue, but it looks like this black box has some magic inside it somewhere.

On another note, I've been playing EA Ur loosely following a youtube series(inb4 retard.) What is a good nation/pretender to learn the ropes?

>>161281040
Anything that inspires you, the rest will follow.
What is your favorite mythology?

>>161281040
It sounds lame as fuck, but it's best to play a nation that looks interesting to you. Now at the moment you probably don't have enough information about the game and nations to have an opinion like that. I owned the game for a year not really playing it until I found out about MA Ermor and decided that was what I wanted to do. In retrospect there's a number of reasons why they're not a great nation for learning the ropes but at least it got me playing the game. That's what matters.

>>161280515
>Misfortune 3 coupled with Luck 3
Hullo, I'm sure that you mean Turmoil coupled with Luck.

>>161281040
i started by playing various giant races, like niefelheim, utgard etc.
expanding is less stressful and more forgiving in the early games while you're still learning.

giants are cool and dont afraid of nobody.

>>161281556

That's correct, I can't write today

>>161281217
Love me some greek/roman. But I was enjoying building Enkidu and pretending I was in the epic of gilgamesh.
The game is just slightly overwhelming with the number of choices you have. A few unrelated questions (obviously the answer to everything will be "it depends" but give me some pointers as to what depends),
1. How many forts/castles should I be making?
2. When not building other commanders should I just spam researchers?
3. Is there a research "limit" per castle?
4. Is investing in local defense worth it?
4a. What about provinces that have a buffer?
5. (Ur related) How early should I push out some sirrushes?

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>>161281556
>Hullo

>>161281685
the only place you should put sirrushes is in the toilet

>>161281463
>>161281563
TY guys I'll take that into account. Was actually thinking about trying out niefelheim.

Is my time well spent playing vs the computer? Or should I set up a hotseat game between my multiple personalities?

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>>161281040
It depends on what you want to do. Picking your favorite will get you in the ring but you're going to need some guidance if you want to really fight. To that end, I suggest you play Sauromatia with Cirno's guide. It won't make you good or anything but it will teach you enough about blesses, magic, unit selection, and battles to do halfway decent with your real favorite.

http://kiirno.github.io/Sauromatia_Guide.html

https://youtu.be/4XGWXmxmaoE?t=3m16s

>>161281831
you can only really play against ai until the midgame, i generally just play the first 20-40 turns, expanding and building with various races, pretenders, and practicing.

it gets real fucking dull real fucking quick when you roll out your mass mages with evo 6 and the ai hasn't even expanded very well and spams shitty spells at you and gets steamrolled.

it's like you have all the firepower in the world and not even a bottle on a wall to shoot at.

>>161281685

>1. How many forts/castles should I be making?
This is a tough question to answer but generally you should have as many as you can afford to produce out of, starting your first fort as soon as you can.

>2. When not building other commanders should I just spam researchers?
Magi are prioritized over other commanders 9 times out of 10. Indie commanders are a good choice for troop ferrying as not to waste a fort turn.

>3. Is there a research "limit" per castle?
No

>4. Is investing in local defense worth it?
Always get at least 1 to prevent scouts from conquering your land. 6 makes the province say that the defense is quite well organized, 10 reduces unrest by 1 per turn without killing population so that is good for blood hunting provinces. I mostly leave my provinces at 1.

>4a. What about provinces that have a buffer?
No idea what you mean by this

>5. (Ur related) How early should I push out some sirrushes?
Never, they are shit.

>>161282198
>>4a. What about provinces that have a buffer?
>No idea what you mean by this
i think he's talking about internal provinces in his greater nation, and the answer is yes they also need pd because >>161282198
>Always get at least 1 to prevent scouts from conquering your land.

>>161282198
>>161282075
>>161281983
>>161281808
Thanks guys. Going to fiddle around some more. By buffer I meant a province in between that province and the enemy. But you answered it in the other question pretty much. Killing the previous game. The god is dead, long live god.

>>161282443
That is what I assumed, ty.

>>161281983
Don't mislead the noobies Cirno.

>>161281685

1) As many as you feel your economy can handle. General rule of thumb is to always have started your first forts construction year 1, preferably during summer/autumn. Forts will be your main recruitment hubs since they pull resources from adjoining provinces, but they are also there to let you recruit mages. If you are still pulling in cash as you are recruiting troops and mages(a mage a turn is the ideal), build more forts.

2) Mages are super important, so you should always try to recruit as many of them as possible. Always recruit one if you can, and put it to research if you have no other task for it.

3) No. Research away

4) Always put 2-3 PD in a province after you take it, to ensure enemies cannot just take it with a scout. I usually increase PD to 15-20 in provinces where I'm building forts, to prevent random event attacks.

4a) What do you mean?

5) Sirrushes are not great unfortunately, very expensive for what they do. I wouldn't get more than a few

if a scout pops out by himself and takes an internal province, the player who owned the scout comes out worse off right?
not only losing 25g, but also map positioning, and scouting information, whereas the player who had the province taken just crushes any units the scouting player cares to waste recruiting or buying pd

>>161282075
I don't see how you can use AI for anything other than expansion against indies only. I keep trying to use singleplayer to try out early-midgame stuff but by the time I meet the computer I have such an unrealistic lead in province count that any conclusion I could draw wouldn't be applicable to multiplayer. There's just absolutely no meat to AI games.

>>161282802
i assume the ai does not cheat in this?
is there a mod that just cheats the ai in an endgame army? or scripts it even?

>>161282198
>>3. Is there a research "limit" per castle?
>No
>>161282662
>3) No. Research away
It's not quite a research limit, but a few researchers can only have a certain number researching per province.

>>161282802
So would a good idea be to play 2-3 nations myself against each other. That way I can learn more nations and have some competition?

>>161282550
Have I been had?

>>161282929

Oh no it most certainly cheats. And it's still terrible.

Try out a few AI games, they can be fun to learn the ropes and it's satisfying to annihilate your enemies. But multiplayer is the real meat of this game. Luckily its very easy to get into a play-by-email games, does not take a great deal of time or effort, unless you join many games. (or git gud enough to survive until endgame)

>>161282742
The scout doesn't die. He just snagged the province, costing you income. Then he sneaks out. If you don't have dudes in range to recapture it, he can deny your income for more than one turn effectively for free.

The only way this hurts the guy with the scout is if he does it to his ally, because then his ally will be mad at him.

Oi admin, Midgard has staled twice in a row now

>>161282742
That 25g scout just stole a province that an expansion party had to secure, causes you to waste time trying to take it back, and they can stealth away at any point. The player that lost that province is much worse off and that's even before you factor in stuff like your other provinces being cut off or traps.

Is Ys shit
They look slightly shit except for maybe like their Kernou Druids?

>>161283306
Look at the land forms for their sacreds.

>>161283306
Think marv, except instead of cheap S1 mages in every fort, they have big elf mages in their cap and instead of freespawn boars for sacred chaff they have hyper elite hyper expensive firebreathing elf cavalry. And they can recruit their stuff only on coasts and they have sailing and amphibious units.

So basically nothing like Marverni except the druids, I guess.

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>>161283306

>>161283514

So what's up with their Geese?

>>161283564
Damn, that Dusk Elder keeps this from being a one-sided battle in Ermor's favor.

>>161283471
>>161283514
>>161283564
Well, that was kind of unexpected.
120g/53r and a bless kind of sounds like "needs a shitton of everything", but kind of interesting.

what the fuck am i supposed to do with oceania?

>>161284307
hope nobody else goes UW and wish for friends as your endgame I guess

>24h since the game started
>two players still haven't done turns

Why the actual fuck do I keep joining /domg/ games.

>>161284307
go AI and then play a better nation

Alright, lads, how does The Chalice work for curing Tarts? Do I have to swap it from one to the next, or does it heal anyone in the same province, or what? Can't figure this out from the inspector (or maybe I'm just dense).

>>161284730
When this happened in MokouIsHot I just kicked the bum out and restarted

>>161284307
Capture some coastal provinces and bloodhunt them with your minotaur bloodhunters, then summon shark fiends underwater. Use your capricorns to buff them and cast your national kelp magic. Later on, you can summon devil rays.

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>>161284307
Hope this works and laugh.

>>161284832

>how does The Chalice work for curing Tarts?

It doesn't. Just go try it in game: you will cure exactly zero afflictions with it in infinitely many turns.

>>161284832
The Chalice doesn't cure undead anymore anyways, so the answer is it doesn't.

>>161285146
>>161285163
Well fuck, that was a complete waste of nature gems.

>>161283635
A better version of 999999 wolves in a fort

>>161284730
It's okay. The first turn on a holiday weekend is always weird and I made sure to keep it at 48 hours on purpose. If there's no movement from them tomorrow night, I'll consider doing something drastic but this is otherwise par for course.

By the way, what do you think of those little lore write ups? I think they really add some great character to the nations and I can't wait to play out the "Zim is secretly run by snakes" thing.

>>161284859
This is assuming of course you are playing summod. Otherwise go AI.

>>161285730
Haven't looked too deeply at it. Honestly I'm not super into the lore in this game to begin with but I'll be sure to check it out on the units I run into in game. Thought about doing some write-ups myself but couldn't really come up with a story.

Oceania changes when?

>>161285730
Which nations actually have stuff written?

Also I'd like to point out that even though the game has started, people can still write up nation fluff, because you can hothead mods during play and as long as only the name and descr values are changed, there will be no adverse effect as those are just user-facing strings and aren't passed through save files.

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>>161286120
What nation did you pick? There might be something interesting hidden there if you look hard enough. For instance, Aoisapoka's Jomon backstory explains a hell of a lot about why those fish have katanas.

>>161286991
Aoisapoka, Vittammen, and Zimbaluia.

Also if that's true then I'm happy to take lore updates for the rest of the game.

>>161263492
An attempt was not even made.

>>161283006
>Have I been had?
Cirno's guide is generally regarded as a joke.

>So would a good idea be to play 2-3 nations myself against each other. That way I can learn more nations and have some competition?
I wouldn't find that fun at all, but if you think you could have fun that way go ahead.

I've heard of a couple of people who (claim to) enjoy that.

>>161288289
>>So would a good idea be to play 2-3 nations myself against each other. That way I can learn more nations and have some competition?
>I wouldn't find that fun at all, but if you think you could have fun that way go ahead.
>I've heard of a couple of people who (claim to) enjoy that.
I did it when I had dom3. I got into MP with dom4.

>>161263492

Admin pls, we are lazy and you are not(hopefully)

>>161289335
You had your chance fuckers, I told you all to check for bugs and I did my best to fix the one that people actually pointed out. Now my productivity is spent and I am as lazy as the rest of you.

Plus I dont know how to stick a fix in without restarting the game and I am actually quite busy at the moment in the real world.

>>161288289
Well if the guide is anywhere as shit as the colorscheme on the website I can see why it is a joke. I guess I'll just go with the flow.

At the time I write this message, I am currently fighting three nations: Hinnom, Agartha, and Vanheim, the last two having just now attacked me. It is now late game, and this war could well decide the route the game takes.

Hinnom has reached out to you with global messages denouncing me, posts in thread, and no doubt extensive direct communications pointing to what a threat I am.

To be clear, I am a threat. I am a threat to his current dominance of the game. I am the only player at this stage with a similar number of provinces. And, at this stage, I have slightly more, or did upon invading Vanheim.

However, I am not a late-game power. I am EA Ulm that has put themselves into a good position. (Summod) Hinnom, by contrast, is a lategame power. They have extensive bloodhunting. They have, at this point, level 9 blood and are summoning Grigori, seirrim, and are even forging contracts. They have a battery of horror casters who have just hit my lands with 5 simaltaneous casts, which were followed by multiple Melqart SCs.
They have a lead, they have had a lead, and, as the game progresses, they will continue to have a lead until they win.
I represented a threat to that by recently growing to be the same size in a series of rapid wars. The most recent of these wars is against Vanheim, who is explicitly allied to Hinnom. As Hinnom has informed you, Vanheim was to flank me when I went to war with Hinnom, and was in the perfect position to do so. I learned of this plan due to vanheim's clumsy attempt to mislead me by providing me with untrue information on repeated occasions. Some discussions with players they had contacted revealed these plans, and I responded.
(pt 1/2).

>>161287365
Oh hey my name autofills on this PC.

The best I've got is that the Black Wolfkin are named after the giant wolf spiders the Murmarish humans ride. Then something about Anansi and African spider myths? Hmm, the Ogre commanders' sailing explains how they came to Murmar (from somewhere vaguely "across the sea") but not the how or why. Ogres are just too much of a blank slate for me to start with.

They're associated in this case with sailing, fungus, slime, and thing vile. Vicars indicate a highly organized and hierarchical religion. Really these guys seem a whole lot more civilized than your typical ogres. Hmm, sailing, mundane research, and unexpectedly civilized. Maybe they're English?

>>161290464

Hinnom now invades me, and calls on your assistance. Let us be clear about the state of the war:

The difference in size between Hinnom and me is indisputably minimal. This is more than compensated for with his blood economy. In addition, they have as their current allies Agartha and Vanheim. Agartha is the third largest player in the game, after the two of us, and is enough to easily tilt the war in Hinnom's favor, despite having a massive border with Hinnom and being far more threatened by him. Vanheim, prior to my invasion, was smaller, but still in the top half. They have conquered two nations, were working on their third, and still have a large number of thugs and a large amount of coastline to effortlessly deploy them against.

As it is, this is more than I can hope to defeat on my own, and is certainly more than enough to prevent me from posing a threat to Hinnom.

And players hoping that I will cripple hinnom enough to give them a chance had best think again: As they plead with you to fight me, they are now marching to conquer the rest of Asia.

So, I instead bring you my counter proposal: Do not attack me. Instead, turn around and make this war even. Invade Hinnom. Disrupt their bloodhunting. Tear down their forts. Distract and slow their snowballing just as they ask you to slow mine.

If you merely remove me, you hand them the game. If you enmesh them in a multi-front war, just as I already have been enmeshed, then you will have a chance at victory.

Such a conflict between titans is necessary for the other powers to have a chance - but the conflict must not be one-sided as it has been.

If you fight them, I will pledge, as I have been pledging, to continue the attack on them. If you do not, but instead attack me to grab a piece of the pie, do not think I will preserve this chance for you by attacking Hinnom on my own, despite being besieged from all other fronts. Instead, my energies will go to destroying you.

>>161289654

I think one has to contact llamaserver to change out the mod on the server. Though not sure if it will fix it in the game that's running

>>161290464

I didn't think you and Hinnom had a border. I thought Arco, Agartha, Theodors and Berrytos was in between you two

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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Conjunction

Join the game you worthless fucks; I'm tired of waiting.

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>>161290815
Final post:
As full disclosure, and to prove my statement as to the size of the people I am fighting, here is a graph which I requested from Sauro via the arrangment he has offered everyone: 100 gold for a graph.

As you can see, it shows me with a small current province lead, recently gained and the two players fighting me as the other two leaders, both of which are better late game nations.

The blue line leading for the first half of the game was Rlyeh, not Ulm.

>>161291117
Berytos does not border me. Agartha does, but not on a route Hinnom would take. Arco is between us, but Hinnom is raiding me with a mix of horror casts and SCs, and has a devil army that can reach my capital within two or three turns. Attacking me with any of those does not require a border.

>>161286991
>hothead
Thanks, phoneposting.
Should have been hotswap.

>>161287365
>if that's true
I've done it before.

>>161289335
I'm not in the game, but I'm not seeing the problem there.
Is it the piss-poor attack?

>>161291385
Its supposed to have a lance and a hoof, not a magic staff and a bow.

>>161291205
How did you get that picture of me?

>>161291536
I'm a fellow plumbing industry mogul.

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>>161291205
REEEEEEE Dominions is so slow these days!
God damn normies and their "holidays" and "families"

>>161291461
It's pretty shit either way at a whopping 5 attack.
I'd just let it slide, flaming bows and a magic weapon at least make them kinda worth it.

>>161292257
What's weird is the thread is quite fast.

>almost forgot to actually send my turn in
>again

In that case I won't be going AI as well.

>>161288289
My guide is decent.
I just haven't had the time to update it lately.

Most of the meat is in the annex.
http://kiirno.github.io/annex.html

>>161291205
And while you're at it join this game

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ChroniclesEA

okay i wrote some fluff. it's dominions lore-friendly although im not going in and changing the lanka summon descriptions

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3FZfeXktGPCNEhJSFVwUGlrTGs

i only changed names and descriptions so there shouldn't be any problem just overwriting the .dm. if anyone else writes lore please just download this .dm file and write over it with your stuff.

>>161290464
>>161290815
>>161291234
>Leading player convinces everyone else to help him gangbang the biggest threats against him

If something doesn't change fast, its going to be another episode of /domg/ snowball heaven.

And if you retards don't understand that the leading player is the blood power, you deserve it.

>>161290464
So first off, in what fucking language is 1 Melqurt multiple? Unless your turn file has been fucked up, you should only be seeing 1. If you see more than 1, I'm worried.
Second, I personally intensely dislike Se'ir because of how they failed me in NoBully, and will likely not be using them. Just a personal preference, I'd rather have other shit.
Third, you're hiding the fact that I'm just barely getting into what I'd call 'lategame', as is Agartha . . . while you've researched how many things up to 9? While you have how many death gems per turn due to the sickle? And while I won't deny my blood eco being stronger than yours (and I *know* you have one btw) I've done the battle of tarts vs blood before . . . blood didn't win.
>>161290815
You claim I intend to attack the rest of Asia? Has TC attacked me? Has Agartha? I have not, and will not, attack those that have not struck first against me or my allies - these claims are hurtful and unfounded. I even offered not to touch the Japanese Isles, to let TC take them as a sign of kindness, and peace that will persist between our great nations.
>>161291234
Thx for the province graph, nice to see I'm maintaining parity somewhat. Agartha will be thrilled to know he's 3rd. Also, I'm pretty sure I can't fly to you with mm3 without them landing on someone else first, unless you ate a huge chunk of Arco/Thera this turn.

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>>161294981
Now that's some cool shit. I knew these guys would be scary due to all that blood, but with those descriptions, they read like doomsday villains. Real amazing stuff!

Tomorrow afternoon, I'll run a comparison of this to our current DM and then copy it to the message of the day so everyone knows to update. If anyone else wants to make any changes then feel free to post it whenever. I'll accept pastebin, DM downloads, or anything legible.

>>161271276
Heck yeah
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/File:Domg_memegames.gif

>>161291234
Also, note that the final spike in provinces from me was from horrors . . . I'm not actually getting income from any of that. Or gem income.

>>161296693
I thought Horrors were independents, not aligned to the nation casting them

Someone give me some cancer globals I can cast with EA Atlantis other than vengeful water. I got a rainbow pretender with F2 A2 W4 E2 S3 D3 N3.

>>161296328
That's pretty much literally every win in Dominions ever.

>>161296876
Scouts took those provinces afterward, so I could potentially rouse with PD spikes and force him to send actual shit to take them back instead of a black hawk or some crap.

>>161290464
>>161290815
>However, I am not a late-game power. I am EA Ulm that has put themselves into a good position.
EA Ulm is pretty good lategame, good enough to contest with (summod) Hinnom if both have similar resources.

If you two really are on par, I agree that helping one of you eat the other is a really dumb idea for the others, but let's not pretend you have a weak lategame.

>>161291234
What about the other graphs? Research/gems/income are very relevant, even if Hinnom's slaves don't show up.

>>161296328
Hinnom has pretty shit blood, even in summod.

>>161296876
You can send horrors to kill PD, that makes the province independent. The horrors will then disappear because they fought something, and you can scoutcap the empty province.

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xibalbia.
tell me about the bat people /domg/
tell me what they did to you.
tell me how to beat them.

>>161296498
246 is currently showing 2 units, described as "mainly melqarts."

Anyone who believes that a blood nation with horror spam, SCs, and armies of demons isn't *the* end-of-the-world threat absent a massive skill/power gap is mistaken. My two hunted provinces don't compare.

Hello, probably Hinnom.
>>161297145
I have a decent late game, but it's not out of substantial national advantages. Summod brings Ulm from swarms of RoS casters to about 1/32. I have maybe 5 or so active right now, most of which are containing vanheim, and all of which are useless against horrors/melqarts.

I didn't pay for research/gems/income, but previously I lagged on gems and lead on research/income. When both nations have level 9 schools, though, the research lead stops being as meaningful.

My income is higher but it is late game, and it is largely higher because I'm not bloodhunting half my provinces.
>hinnom has shit blood in summod
That really means that his startup cost is pretty high. When you have 2-3 bloodhunters in half your provinces, all of which have dousing, the fact that it cost you a lot to develop that blood economy compared to mictlan is irrelevant to the fact that you have one, and have the mages to fully exploit it.

In any case, Nicknight has asked me to convey that he is not fielding swarms of Seirrim - he is choosing to focus on devils, storm demons, and demon knights instead.

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>>161290470
I'm sorry for not getting to this sooner.

You have a very complex puzzle. Your Austral humans wear plate armor and ride spiders. They apparently don't practice any magic and they are not priests. Your ogres somehow have great sailing, bronze age armor, and an extraordinarily varied amount of magic. On top of that, your pretender god does not lose magical skill upon death.

I think the way to start solving this conundrum is to define the relationship between the humans and ogres. After all, if ogres are typically dumb man eaters then why are there any humans around at all? Why are don't those humans have their own mages and priests? Did those kickass spiders have something to do with it? Were the ogres so impressed with them that they really named their sacreds after them? Once you start answering those questions you can force the rest of the pieces to fall into place.

I hope that helps! Also the pic is an ogre faced spider. Could that tie into things at all?

storm demons are my favorite summon because of how difficult it is to make an end game army immune to them whereas everything can easily have 25+ prot and 5/- resistance to all other elements

>>161297890
wolves are my favorite late game summon because im probably fucked

>>161297890
fire imps are my favourite summon because of how cool all the particle effects look when they throw fireballs.

>>161296498
>I've done the battle of tarts vs blood before . . . blood didn't win.
Have you tried vampires? They basically shut down my use of tarts (outside large armies) when I fought a nation using them.

>>161297551
>I have a decent late game, but it's not out of substantial national advantages.
You have Steel Maidens, amazing stealthy recruitable troops for 14g that take buffs very well. You can lead them around with stealthy mages to buff them.

Hinnom's only troops which match this are summoned, much more expensive, and very vulnerable to Demon Cleansing.

>That really means that his startup cost is pretty high. When you have 2-3 bloodhunters in half your provinces, all of which have dousing, the fact that it cost you a lot to develop that blood economy compared to mictlan is irrelevant to the fact that you have one, and have the mages to fully exploit it.
No, it means he has significant upkeep (2-3 bloodhunters per province costs him 24 gold per province per turn just from the bloodhunters). It means he's taking additional unrest and pop loss on top of the normal damage caused by blood hunting. It means he had a significant deficit in research or other fields while spending the 700 gold per province to set it up. It means if you raid his provinces and kill the blood hunters, he needs a lot of money to replenish them.

Hinnom's blood hunting is simply not comparable to strong blood nations, even in summod.

>>161297551
Nah, I don't bother being anon when posting propaganda for my nation. Also, 246 is a scouting error. I mean, come on, you should have seen the Melqart take the province, don't act like you thought I sent 2 into one province.

Also, Hinnom's bloodhunting is really fucking obnoxious to deal with. I honestly prefer EA Abysia's hunting, since I don't have to worry about my hunters reducing provinces to pop 0 nearly as much. You also have the benefit of being able to recruit fantastic units to my . . . giants. And I'm pretty sure 400ish gold of Ulmites kills 400ish gold of Melqart.

>>161298137
Vampires do work, if you have a sufficient amount of them, but that takes a really long time to work toward. And it doesn't really solve the main problem with Tarts, which is A/S pathing that can teleport/trapeze onto demon armies and, with proper kitting, will rarely die to the demons. Tartarians without the ability to ritual move aren't anywhere near as difficult to deal with.

>>161297402
Storm fucks over pretty much all their recruitable infantry, but if they've gone full UNLIMITED BLOOD WORKS you're pretty fucked.
I hear assassin spam works pretty decently. Pretend you're the one with asshole batman instead.

>>161297402
You need to counter their raids with ambushes and raids of your own, and screw over their blood economy as much as possible.
Alternatively, go underwater. They can't do shit to you down there.

>>161298343
I found the most useful part of tarts to be them trampling all over my enemy's lands, which vampires really helped prevent.

If he's just teleporting them onto demon armies, maybe some more mages with anti-SC scripts? S2 without LotNS can paralyze, with LotNS can Soul Slay. You should have quite a few of them to send with armies.

>>161297551
>white demolished the lab is set up in 45 for blood hunting
Motherfucker.

>>161298350
it's still just into year two but i know for a fact i'm going to need to get at least some of their provinces to get access to the thrones i'll need.
>>161298506
>go underwater
that's what I was trying to avoid having to do, it's the looooong way round to where i need to get to.


i just dont know if i want to be getting in there early game or wait until later
im EA niefelheim with N9,

99% sure he wont ever go on 4chan.

>>161298137
There are no strong blood nations remaining in the game. Berytos is there, but is eschewing blood.

>>161298163
It took the province in magic phase. You could easily move another there in normal movement, using the same stealth/flying kit your teleporting melqart used, and I wouldn't see it that battle.

What is the other unit there?

>>161298949
There is no other unit there. You are literally seeing an incorrect scouting report. They aren't precise.

Also, I've seen some storm demons from Bery now. No fucking clue where he's hunting, but he's definitely hunting (well, I guess it could be cap income, but I doubt it).

>>161298949
>There are no strong blood nations remaining in the game. Berytos is there, but is eschewing blood.
You're were speaking about Hinnom as if he was a strong blood nation (even directly compared him to mictlan), so I responded and told you that you were exaggerating.

Hinnom is not a major blood power. He might have the best blood out of everyone left in the game, but blood is not an automatic win.

>>161293878
i would
but how many games is too many?

>>161300283
Depends on you.
Anything more than 5 quickly becomes overwhelming for me personally.

>>161298837
Kill him early, I suppose.
Bats are pretty shit defensively, especially before they achieve a critical mass of oztelotls or whatever the fuck they're called.

>>161296498
Alright cool, I'm somehow third.. Probably because no one else really thought expanding underground was a good idea for the first 20 turns. I'm still amazed I got this far.

I still feel like you two guys completely outclass me. Hell, yall be like twice my size and as players, yall terify me. Sometimes I still get them flashbacks of sum1won elfing me and Nick overruning me with surprise Fall Bears.

I'm not too thrilled right now, perhaps I should just go AI.

Dear Vittammen:
The word is "perform", not "preform".

What happened with Kichikuo_Domg? Did Caelum win already?

>>161286991
>name and descr values
Also epithet and summary tags, for the nations themselves. I'm also not certain that name tags for sites are mutable after the game has began, it might be a good idea to double check that.

>>161301436
could you use it in a sentnace?

fugg i forgot enslave mind feebleminds the commander

can gift of reason at least make him a thug?

Hi C'tis and R'lyeh. Is there a chance we can do some steamtalking?

>>161303606

We really need an "Around Malakal" image. What rhymes with Malakal?

>>161303510
It doesnt feeblmind, it just turns it into a unit. A commander being feebleminded can be cured by a "Healer" or gift of health, which is a bit hard.

However you can turn units into commanders easily using either Gift of Reason or Divine Name, which is what you want.

>>161303698
Around Malakal, watch yourself lad

>>161303698
"Around Malakal, get Malakal'd"

>>161303698
Malakal; He'll plumb your bum

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>>161303698

>>161303698
Hrrmmh, "Around Malakal, suspect every proposal?"

>>161303698
With Malakal be logical.

>>161301436
My spelling it terrible. I spelt Atlantian at least 2 different ways.

>>161303606
What you want to talk about?

>>161304557
I wanted to figure out if you were going for some land or were going to secure uw before doing so. Wouldn't want a clash into mindblasting squids.

>>161304813
It's me but I failed to put the right name on.

>>161304813
Sticking UW right now. I will probably spend most of the game UW afraid of Atlantis coming to start shit.

>>161304357

We're aiming for a cautionary mnemonic, not a campaign slogan.

>>161304942
Great, I feel safer right now then.

Godspeed to you, squidman.

>>161305009
Around Malakal, don't be irrational.

>>161305080
Good luck Gryphons.

>>161303698
I'm not even Malakal, desu

>>161305160
That's exactly what Malakal would say

>>161303698
Anal. Anal rhymes with Malakal.

>>161305373
"Around Malakal, you are fine if you like it anal"

>>161291205
I'll be able to join in a few minutes if you want but I am a total no wins noob

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>>161303698
How's this?

what does the spell wild hunt actually do?

>>161306332
Enemies in forests get attacked by a pretty big army.
It's pretty neat but it can't compare to the wild ride of the Ghost Ship Armada.

Wood elves I swear to Christ if you stale a turn after this long of an extension I wont be held accountable for my actions.

>>161306454
Only priests get attacked I believe.

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>R'lyeh temple icon
what the FUCK is that

>>161307987

Priests and sacred commanders.

>>161308375
Shit I never noticed that before.

>>161308456
>sacred commanders.
Always forget about that

>>161308375
Eye of the Void, I think. Pretty standard stuff overall in the "The things from Beyond that should not exist" scebe

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Go back giants, this is manlet country.

>>161309370
Lanklets, when will they learn?

>>161309370
メイジ サポート

If a fort has one turn left and a guy is one turn away from attacking it will it be built before the attack comes or what?

>>161312954
I believe the attack happens before the fort can be build.

For EA/MA Pangaea are Centauride or Centaur units better? I mean the difference is that women are more skilled in defense/attack but men have more hp and strength

>>161312954

Construction resolves post-battles.

>>161313501
Centaurs are better in combat, but recruiting them over centaurides makes you homosexual.

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>>161313609
Then I made the right choice ignoring the male ones completely

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>>161313609
Good thing most of us are faggots then.

>>161314765
>Preferring horse pussy over horsecock

As MA Ermor I got a B9 D9 N9 bless, enchantment 5 for skellyspam and I'm just about to get construction 4 for bane venom charms and skull staffs. What should I go for next?

I feel like a few of the messages that I got this turn may have been addressed to other nations.

>>161313501
Centaurs are way better. Centaurides losing berserk is the largest problem, but significantly lower hp and strength also hurt.

>>161315196
I'd say one more level of enchantment for Rigor Mortis, then alteration 6 for Darkness. Those two together should let skeletons stomp any mundane troops.

>>161315790
Also ratmen please dont attack me.

>>161315196
Evo 7 for wind of death.

>>161297890
Fire ants are my favourite because that's about as far into research I get before I'm fucked.

>>161316859
Go away machaka

>>161316859
Fire Ants are underrated.

Tough, AP attacks, and dirt cheap with a decent caster. They make good chaff, and can dish out a lot more damage than most other chaff before dying.

>>161297890

Just teleport a totally shock immune golem onto storm demon stack and murder them all. Thats hard to do?

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>>161316963
No.

>Ulm calls me out for uses Horrors
>slaughters Vanheim fort with Horror Harmonica Golem

I love how Ulm actually gained ground this turn despite fighting 3 people . . . well, 2 people and a cripple (sry Vanheim).

If none of Ulm's *actual* neighbors in the Med intend to take their land, I'll be forced to move to phase C.

>>161318083
>Ulm slaughters cripples
>Jews try to organize a conspiracy against them
Very good rp

>>161318083
Horror Harmonica is S/D to forge and he can't produce multiple of it. Him having it does not indicate he has mass horror casting being set up, unlike you casting send horror.

>>161318342
He killed more with horrors this turn than I did all game.

>>161318083
>Late game S/b nation with blood 9 threatening a mysterious plan

I hope you like astral corruption.

>>161318083
>I love how Ulm actually gained ground this turn

Gee, I love how that's a blatant lie.

What sort of pretender should I build for EA Pan if I want to cast Dark Skies?

>>161318867
One with air magic.

>>161318741
Except it isn't? I lost provinces, Vanheim lost provinces, Agartha may have gained a few, but not enough to make up the difference.

So that's actually exactly what happened.
>>161318665
I do not plan Astral Corruption, no. I'd cast Looming Hell though if I thought it'd work against Poison Golems.

>>161318904
Well, mainly, how to ensure I'll have the gems for it. An awake rainbow is somewhat of a risky proposition, and I'm not sure I want to give up a major bless. A high dom rating is a must, since the effect of Dark Skies is based on dominion.

>>161319049
Do you really need me to post province graphs or are you just going to quietly withdraw the statement?

>>161319271
Considering Agartha claims not to have taken 4 of Ulm's provinces this turn (the number required for our side to break even) I find it extremely unlikely. Unless someone else joined the bandwagon, or indies assailed him in some place I don't have scouts.

>>161319271
To be fair, hinnom and vanheim probably have lost provinces to Ulm. Of course, Ulm has probably lost provinces to them, too, and hinnom has been making consistent gains against kailasa. So he hasn't lied about losing provinces, though he might be lying about positional dominance.

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>>161319360
Well, just for free, here's some further proof to everyone that Hinnom can't stop lying. How much do you trust Hinnom?

Also my own province graph added for comedic comparison.

>>161318508
"Number of horrors among every battlefield" is not, at all, the ranking system of how dangerous horrors are. It's the strategic flexibility that Send Horror offers and Horror Harmonica does not. Horror Harmonica is one province per turn. Send Horror is many provinces per turn.

>>161319603
Fugging called it.
>>161319554
Hinnom is lying about Ulm gaining ground, but is not lying about having lost provinces himself. However, Ulm has lost more than Hinnom.

>>161319774
Huh. As I said, I lost ground to Ulm . . . not sure where the fuck they lost the other provinces to be honest, if it wasn't even to Agartha.

Either indies were really brutal to them this turn, or someone else hopped on the pain train. Or Vanheim actually managed to thug a bunch of Ulm's provinces without the Vanjarls instantly dying this time.

>>161319903
Possibly they lost provinces to your send horror spell that nobody picked up?

>>161320379
If so, it wasn't to my send horror. I always make sure to pick up my horror spam tyvm.

I suppose it could have also been to one of the 3 stooges Agartha unleashed though.

How's the RubbaDubDub game going? Finishing line in sight?

>>161316385
>>161315998
Thanks for the suggestions guys, It'll only take about 100 turns to reach those. God I hate Ermors research.

>>161318083
What is phase C?

>>161321063
It's where I stop bothering to fight Ulm and watch Vanheim die, and just wait for them to thug all of Arco's shit as well so we'll finally be adjacent and can have a proper fight . . . instead of whatever what we're doing is.

>>161321307
>Implying I'll attack my good Greek friends instead of, for instance, the perfidious cave dwellers with whom i am already at war.
They've already implemented austerity measures and we will accordingly help them deal with their crippling upkeep if they so wish.

>>161320964
Monkey sacreds are kicking my ass. R'lyeh has turned most of the world into a mage killing hellscape. Everyone needs at least two more thrones to win.

It's hard out here for a pimp, senpai

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The idea is, in addition to usual Pan shenanigans, to cast Dark Skies and use Dryads as weapons of mass seduction.

Innovative enough?

>>161322093
>implying I'll attack my Greek friends

What was the words you used for your Roman friends . . . new management, was it?

>>161322274

Why dormant?

Plus no magic means you wont cast shit due to no research.

>>161322918
Dormant for A sitesearching. In my experience Pan gets decent research thanks to forest mages.

>>161323064
Pan has mediocre research efficiency with 0 ability to make either quills or lanterns.

There are worse research nations to be sure, but I would never call Pangaean research decent - especially not in T3M0.

>>161323368
So, say it's shifted to imprisoned and two or three scales are put to magic, how to ensure A gems?

>>161322237
also ryleh's globals are all s7/w7 etc but his bless makes me think he took a rainbow pretender

how did he get the paths to cast them? hero unit?

>>161323553
I was honestly more confused by the Dom9 desu, not the dormant. Seems a little excessive when Dom7 will do in most cases. Just make the Pans from your capital, they aren't sacred so you can make 7 white centaurs (8 w/4 more temples built later) per turn. This should be enough.

>>161322274

For god's sake, go to temp 3 and max out luck and growth.

You could probably safely drop Dom to 6 or 7 as well. Pan has cheap temples.

>>161325238
>>161325332
It's because Dark Skies is dominion dependent. I'd like to get a stable dom 10 as soon as possible. 5 temples is a given, 10 takes a while, 15 maybe in the endgame.

Sacrificing temp for luck/growth is probs a decent idea, though.

>>161325627

Is this EA or MA Pan?

>>161325891
EA

>>161317840
That seems so unfair though

>>161326018

You can blood sac. You can easily, easily live with Dom6.

>>161318083
Nobody is stupid enough to fall for your diplomonstering, Hinnom
r-right?

>>161326196
How do I get my hands on nature magic when I have water, death, blood, fire and some earth?

>>161326389
Didnt mean to quote, also N indies arent an option.

>>161326389

Indies are the easiest way. Pretty much all the animal tribes have N1 shaman. If you can trade for a Thistle Mace, that'll get you started.

If you can't get indies, your only options are those two Demon Lords with N.

>>161326556
Shit.

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>>161326196
Hmm, true, How's this look? Also, just how feasible does the whole Dark Skies plan seem in general?

>>161318083
Vanheim fort was not killed by the horror harmonica golem.

It was killed by autorout, because Vanheim surrounded a LR 15 size 6 ettin (with no other gear) with air elementals, preventing anything else from killing it. Then spammed phantasms. Then uselessly milled until all of his vanjarls ran off the field.

>>161326695
Speaking of autorout, what happens if both sides have immobile units?

>>161302795
>When all of the older Atlanteans were killed in the defense of the empire the younger Atlanteans, bereft of leadership and magical power, were easily dominated by the mental powers of the Illithids and forced to perform menial labor and conquer other unfortunate nations while under their spell until one day an unknown Atlantean appeared before them.

>They are leaders of the Vittammenian sect of war and they perform sermons before each battle to whip their followers into a berserker fury.

>>161327002

Attacker's units are destroyed first.

>>161327194
Pls stop pointing out my spelling mistakes.

>>161327449
:^)

>>161327481
Why is preform a word anyway? I have never heard anyone ever say they were going to preform something.

>>161301502
Pure unbridled Shenanigans, probably the first and last time on /domg/ I will actually see everyone team up against the snowballer and actually slow them down.

>>161327861
You get the adjective (preformed) commonly to refer to metal things you buy at the hardware store already bent into the shape that you need them in. I assume the verb is used for the bending of those things into that form.

>>161327960
Domgnatgen slowed down the snowballer so hard the game's still going on.

Though the ritual spell "Lukas' super extension" is mostly at fault for that.

>>161283186
My bad, life was at turmoil 3 this weekend. Should be ok for now.

>>161328027
I usually just see that as prefab but yeah, just a compound word in the same style.

>>161328107

Ah yes, Thanksgiving, a happy and contentful time.

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Finally got the last concession I needed from Trippical's Pangaea.

And also found Marverni's score graph site. Personal word of advice: 300% income, not even once. Just save yourself the effort and preplace forts on every single province of the damn fucking map.

>>161328142
Prefabrication is a more extensive process that would usually involve screwing things together and what not. Preformed stuff is still one piece, just one piece in the right shape.

>>161328027
>>161328142
Its a dumb word. I am bad enough at spelling without uncommonly used words that sound almost exactly the same being thrown around.

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>>161328226
There are also advantages to having already grinded out a super long lategame where you've already all but won, and just have to collect the thrones (hi RevengeofFlatus Bats, who actually refused to concede and dragged the game on for another 2 months or so).

>>161328331
>that sound almost exactly the same
It doesn't, "perform" puts the emphasis on the second syllable and "preform" puts it on the first.

>>161328424
I always pronounced it preform anyway so that probably doesnt help.

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>>161328359
So, UW was actually more or less pretty easy to deal with. R'lyeh really only has 1 target unless Atlantis is *super* fucking careful with map connections (he wasn't). Considering Atlantis is R'lyeh's only real connection by water, an alliance between R'lyeh and Atlantis is the only thing more impossible than Mictlan and bats actually working together.

>>161322237
well shiieeet, this won't end anytime soon, will it?

EA Oceania nerf when? They have the 4th best winratio in EA now.

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>>161328497
I was getting ready to fight Atlantis in a 1v1 fight, when for some reason he attacked Pelagia. This made dealing with Atlantis pretty easy, all things considered - easy enough that I also managed to snag Tir na Nog's Isle from them when they were busy fighting Fomoria and Marverni.

I'd fault Pelagia for not trying to remove me alongside Oceania, but considering how worthless Oceania was at actually fighting against me (even for an Oceania . . . literally threw away 100s of gems on trash) I'd have steamrolled both of them.

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>>161328695
The only main competition I had to deal with was Sauro. Once Sauro went AI, the only way I was ever going to lose is if everyone attacked me all at once - which I would have almost certainly have lost from the mental strain if nothing else.

Domg being domg, this ofc didn't happen.

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>>161328919
My opinion of the buffs to R'lyeh for summod: The polypol change is pointless, I never really bothered taking them above land ever. They drowned too quickly, can't seige for shit, and are worthless in a fight.
The cost reductions are much appreciated, and make the pricing of the Aboleths and Mindlords fair for what is an extremely shitty path combo (W/S, ick) and a seriously inferior set of item slots.

Blessing of Limne is for all UW nations, but it by far helps R'lyeh the most. The addition of that spell is the single biggest change for R'lyeh in summod.

>>161328093
I need 48h more hours, my... uh... my dog ate my homework.

>>161327960
>slow
There isn't caelum anymore, rip.

Even if birds isn't dead yet, there is no way he can win anymore.

>>161328603
That is funny because scrubs here were always whining how this nation is total shit. Or more like how all nations in the game are OK, but Oceania is not.

>>161329232
Yeah, we sure did show them. Now we have irrefutable proof that EA Oceania is a super-strong nation.

>>161329390
What? What games did oceania win?

I honestly didnt see them played yet.

>>161329232
Oceania is total shit, though comparatively less shit outside of summod (because non-summod Hinnom, Abysia, Machaka, Helheim, etc) are *real* shit.

Also it's sometimes important to track who wins those games, on nations that don't win much. One of them was vava_grey . . .

The main reason Oceania's win rate is so high though is because they're a boring as fuck nation, so scrubs not seeking wins won't rack up the losses on them.

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>>161329115
extension granted, 168 hours just in case

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How did no one point out how lemuria has a N9E4D6S6 pretender?

This is the cheapest way I could find without having to run imprisoned.

It sounds innovative enough, if you ask me.

>>161330070
I haven't met anyone yet so I cant say much.

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>>161329657
>One of them was vava_grey
I don't get this meme. Is he a good player? Last time I saw him mentioned in a thread, he won a game vs AIs and a staling Ermor. Before that, he got totally rekt by Malakal while playing a Drain Bandar.

>>161329545
Check the spreadsheet.

>>161330546
check Arena battles

>>161330576
He has 10 wins, which is the same number as Nicknight, 1 behind Malakal, and 2 ahead of Sy.

So Lamia Queens is not the strongest late game plan, I've learned. I think only about 10 of my demon knights saw combat. I guess I needed to play more relentlessly aggressive with a stronger late game pretender.

R'yleh, post pretender.

>>161329093
Good job, Nick.

>>161331259
That's not what he was asking about. Rejakor only has 5 registered wins and I'm a very good player.

>>161329093
Congrats, I didn't think you would pull it off before 2017.

>>161332042
t. Coolstory

but I enjoy that meme, please go on

>>161332042
I guess being absolutely ruthless is good for 5 wins, but after kicking rejakor's ass so bad he started staling, I wouldn't say he's a "great," since I'm pretty sure Nick would have found a way to destroy me from that position (and Nick's sly enough he probably would have had at least two allies on his side).

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>>161331572
I don't often run dom4, but when I do I make sure I don't care about any of the recruit sacreds, and no one is close enough to domkill, and I'll have money for temple spam - all were true in Der Gotter.

S6 was for boosting to rings reliably, N9 for the shroud effect on Tarts and Golems (mostly Tarts as it happened to be though). D4 was free, effectively.

Looking back, I would have cut a point of Order and Magic (the research edge was really pointless desu) for Luck3, which would have made casts of Hidden in Sand better.

>>161332437
Thanks, Carlix.

>>161290464
Blatant Lying has rarely helped anyone, you know. You attacked me unprovoked after finding out that I was staying out of any Alliances in order to deal with Helheim. Baseless claims from fictional parties is worth less than nothing, and the loss of support you should receive from doing something like that is staggering. You are a warmonger that does not even attempt to fabricate reasons for what you do, instead throwing out asinine ramblings hoping that you are scary looking enough that people will nod and accept absolute falsehoods.

I think is appropriate that No one who matters believes Sauro anymore after they sided with you and report fake news, purposefully trying to put down any real information with 'But you are wrong because I said so.' If Sauro had any graphs of the game that supported you, he would be able to post them to support your position. At best he can only point out technicalities; too bad even that small bit of actual reporting tears down your narrative entirely just to get out an insult.

>>161332472
I literally don't even know what game you're referring to, so I can't say?

Were you Caelum? Or some other flying nation? Pretty much all of my losses were to flying nations.

>>161317840
Generally you deploy mages when you're fielding hundreds of slaves of elite units

>>161332592
No problem :^)

>>161332824
MapmakingIsHard, Ea Arco vs Ermor. I'm not sure how much of my victory I should attribute to national power, but I was still pretty scrubsy that game, such as when I lost an entire artifact kitted army to your fear dog with no retreat. I will say you should have a counter in mind for RoS before attacking Arco though.

>>161332824
He's saying he beat Rejakor, not you. You were mentioned as someone that would have beaten him.

>>161330070
"The collector of souls" title needs undead tag, so I guess it's either luck3-magic2 dormant demilich, imprisoned demilich with luck3-magic3, or imprisoned lich queen with luck3-magic2.

I would say demilich, but dormant is pretty meme, if you ask me.
He is probably going to thug centurions or some shit.

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This is Berserker Blyat, say hello to him.

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>>161332718
>being this angry over a game
I get that it sucks when you spend three months building a nation and get rekt out of nowhere, but just join another game and git gudder.

>>161333969
I love Chud Hirdmen. Great blenders with nice strategic mobility.

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Blyat has a problem, he has been wounded in a previous battle, and is limping into combat.

But he really wants to fight, and die a glorious death so he may ride eternal, shiny and chrome.

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>>161334209

Blyat's friends performance are, shall we say, somewhat mediocre.

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Blyat is filled with despair over how poorly his friends fought, knowing he won't get to die gloriously today. Blyat is very sad.

>>161333261
I don't know the full story of that, I believe he staled twice on account of being in the hospital.

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>>161334731

The despicable wolf-tribe won't even finish Blyat off in his despair. Instead they head for his chieftain, who never appreciated Blyat much in the first place.

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Poor Blyat has hardly gotten anywhere. He just wanted to fight.

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But wait...