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sisters edition

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>5.14 (LIVE)
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-0514/

>5.15 (PT)
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/publictest-515/

>Statistic tracker - Stalk your favorite wowsg:
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Missouri:
800K free xp estimated

>German DDs and IJN DD rework:
Possible with 5.15

>Mostly updated guide:
http://pastebin.com/tfYw51Rr

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA
[BOTES] on SEA
i dont have the links either
isnt there [HOTEL] on EU?

scuttled thread
>>161134036
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First for baBBies are cancer
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Also, yes EU clan is [HOTEL]
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Got 5 reports today because people are pussies and actually care when you call them retarded braindead nazis. I bet they had a grandpa in werhmacht and now they're all "d-don't insult me, it's not my fault I'm a worse player than a lobotomized monkey ;_;".
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how much longer till the IJN DD update

whats keeping them
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I wanna play WoT
Please stop me WoWsg
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>>161230006
wot is even more shit than wows
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Useless brown hotel!
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>>161230006
Have you played it before?
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>>161229904
mutsuki>fubuki
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>>161231418
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>>161231418
that is just false
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>>161230845
No but youtube keep suggesting quickybaby video to me
I think google overlord is manipulating me
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>>161231772
Resist the temptation, anonymous one. For there is a chance that you will lose sanity and will to live, after playing WoT
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>>161229904
Pretend ST anon here, Line is entering its 6th iternation, WG wants to see what happens when you give Torp Bote DDs 6km gun range 10km torp range and 9.985km detection
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>>161231772
its too late to get into WoT, unless you have a few friends in a good/great active clan and are willing to dump money into the game... which is a bad idea
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i gotta make a research paper, i think im gonna make it on something bote related. what should i make it on?
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>>161232161
what kind of research paper?
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>>161232161
make paper on botegirls
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>>161231418
>there are people who do bad in mutsuki
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bois whats the deal with these weeb ships? i just got the ARP kongo and it seemsprettygood
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>>161232801
They're literally just a carbon copy of the fully upgraded tech tree ships.
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>>161232801

what a topsy turvy ride this ship is going to be :^(
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>>161232801
>tfw no ARP Yamato
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For Mogami, is the gun upgrade more important than the GFCS upgrade?
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>>161233078
Both the 155's and 203's are usable and you really want the extra range. So go GFCS.
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>>161233154
That's what I thought, thank you
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>>161233078
get GFCS first
203mm gun is basically side-grade
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>Hold off on playing botes last night since I'd have all day today to grind the rest of Takao
>Wake up to having to force big dog off of killing small dog because fucking food falls onto the floor
>Right index finger is now mangled

Thanks, RNG.
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>>161232745
i do well in the mutsuki, and i know its shit.

on all servers its either the lowest or 2nd lowest ship... its fucking trash
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>>161233281
Can you set fire shell to spacebar and press it to fire?
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>>161233375
Worth a shot. Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I'm using my middle finger in place of my index finger to type. It's awkward.
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>>161233419
I typed with my ring finger before because my fingers were dirty. It helps that there's a fuck huge spacebar for your left hand to press while you control with WSQE.
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>>161232042
Actual ST anon here, WG is testing out putting the hydroacoustic consumable on all IJN DDs. They will also make the IJN DDs completely immune to all fire damage.
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>>161233375
>not assigning "fire" to delete button
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Expert Marksman, Last Stand, or IFA on britbong Cruisers?
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>>161232209
just a research paper. it can be on anything.

>>161232462
thats stupid
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>>161233828
But it's too far from both hands. And what would you do if you couldn't delete anything on that press? The world explodes?
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>nothing but great games in my bayern
>all losses

epic
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>>161233881
Naval Food Storage onboard over the years
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>>161233198
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>>161233948
>stay back and snipe
>lose
???
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>>161233829
IFA is a waste of points

personally i would go for Expert Marksman because you'll be constantly using it, how often will you be using last stand? then how often will you be getting grabbed by the citadel while last standing away at a snails pace?
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>>161234020
i dont have the fire control upgrade, is it really sniping if i have to get within 15km?
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>>161233881
Maybe something to do with different bote designs and how they were influenced by the characteristics/ambitions of different countries?
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>guy with the most edgy name is the biggest pussy in the team
evrytiem
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for a battleship captain, whats the best upgrade at each level? they're all pretty samey imo
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>>161234264
BoS
EM
SI, but I see other people argue for Vigi or HA and I can see them both being useful
AFT, possibly MAA on some botes like the German BBs with good high caliber AA guns if you're not looking for the better secondaries
CE
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>>161234382
thanks lad
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>>161234264
1. Expert Rear Gunner
2. Incoming Fire Alert
3. Dogfighting Expert
4. Aircraft Servicing Expert
5. Air Supremacy
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>>161234064
You make a good case, I'll do EM. Doesn't look too useful for Minotaur, but I'm far from that.
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>>161234494
>Ise class skill
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>>161234494
this desu
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>>161234820
>Ise
>not Tone
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>>161234494
eksdee
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Is anyone here autistic enough to have 19pts cap?
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>>161234507
well on the Minotaur, if you want, because you have EM you can stick the Reload Decrease/Turret Traverse Slow down on and not think about it much
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>>161235129
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>>161235176
999,999exp isn't it?

wheres the time for shitposting if you do that?

(maybe perma camos, full flags and a fuck ton of dragon flags if you already had autism battlecounts)
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>>161235379
9,999,999
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>picking expert loader on bong CLs
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>>161233829
Get demolition Expert
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>>161235892
This.
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Expert loader is dank on Aoba and up imo
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>>161235953
It's great on everything 203mm
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>>161236024
Even on Dess Meme?
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>>161236098
>>>/soc/
>>>/b/
>>>/anywherebuthere/
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>>161236128
Yes as a 16th skill
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>>161236098
just go masturbate or something holy shit
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>>161236098
I want to bring Hotel to a motel and love the hell out of her holes multiple times, in every way.

>tfw no qt hotel gf
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>>161235953
I remember picking it when I was still a noob because I had thought that I can halve my reload time by changing between HE an AP every salvo.
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>>161236339
Cruiser would be balanced if they do that
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>Hatsuharu
>CV decides to keep his planes over me
>Fighter-spec Lexington, not like he can do anything more useful
>Useless for the whole game.

Fucking great.
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>>161236725
sail near a USN cruiser or something
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0-4 do daily on furutaka
5-9 keep playing bayern
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>>161236984
>USN cruiser
People don't drive those botes.
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>>161233070
>tfw no Season 2 ARP
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>>161237080
https://na.warships.today/player/1005732426/quadshooter
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>>161234382
Is it worth going full AA meme build on North Carolina?
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>>161237987
he kept talking a bunch of trash while being dead (he died in like the first 5 minutes)
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>>161238076
what else are you gonna go?
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>>161238076
No CV is going to try to touch you so it seems pretty useless I'd go stealth instead.
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Does upgrading the guns on the Udaloi give you anything substantial other than turret traverse?
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>>161239048
Yes
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>>161238769
thats where ur wrong
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>>161239486
most CV players in T8 know which ships to avoid senpai
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>>161239780
this is where you be incorrect
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>>161239889
well dont come back in the thread complaining about how you spec'd for AA and you run into no CV's.
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>>161239048
Better AP pen
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>>161236314
I want the real deal!
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>>161240780
you cant have it cause you cant fit a ship in a motel dumbshit
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>>161239780
also if you would think for a second u would realize u arent restricted to facing t8 cvs.
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>>161241312
most CV players in T 10, 9, 8, 7, and 6 know which ships to avoid.
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>>161241358
a t10/9 cv has no problem nuking a norcal
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>>161241414
ye

anyway if you spec your NC for AA youre lame
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>Fletcher is such a slut that her butt has a hearth shaped tattoo on it.
KanColle version when?
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>>161241803
A heart AND an "m"

What does it stand for wowsg?
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>>161241912
missouri
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>>161241912
She is a masochist of course, she is also into anal sex.
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Jesus. I haven't touched my carriers in more than a year and I don't remember how to do anything. The only damage I did besides shooting down airplanes was from the 5.5inchers on my carrier. How do I control my planes and shit?
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>>161237987
>Not going AB from that spawn
He was right you know
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>>161241414

Also sometimes even prefered over say and Amagi or Biscuit because the NC's torpedo protection is just so weak, ontop of its shit turning circle and bad armor.
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>shatter map
>go to cap A
>lots of shit coming
>torp into them
>run
>spotted
>engage warp drive and prepare to smoke
>dodge myoko's salvo
>a single shell from the mahan clips my stern
>detonation

When will this meme end?
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>>161237987
>quadshitter
Apt name.
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hey there is a bug with my client, it says mogami stock guns have 50 second 180 degree turn time? anyone else see that?
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>>161243238
No, that's how its supposed to be.

Eat shit.
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>>161242084
>she
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>>161243238
the captain skill and the turn rate mod makes it tolerable
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>>161243238
Mogami 155 was OP due to its DPS and fire so we decided to half the turret traverse tovarish)))))
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>>161241803
it stands for (male) obviously
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>>161242405
fuck if he was right, hes a shitter
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OFFICIAL /WOWSG/ QT RANKINGS.

TOP TIER:
Morty
Jake
Chou
Squid
Luger
Mosh
Evelyn

High tier
Arlios "Gas them all"
Haruna Kai
Hotelposter
F22xRaptor's onion chopping skills
Boogbot (special Dad ranking)

Mid tier
Iri
Spartanix
NeoRussia
Sandwich
F22xRaptor's eyebrows

Low tier
Hotel
F22xRaptor's Catgirl fursona
HP_Lovesauce

Shit tier
AT_Barrage

Please be sure to voice any objections and suggestions.
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reminder to report off topic shitposts
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>>161243238
>>161243591
>myoko guns had shit traverse
>get used to it
>155mm mogami doesn't seem bad at all
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>>161244378
>no me
fuck
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>>161244868
Me neither, don't feel too bad senpai
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>>161244868
>>161244937

Post your ign friends, I can add you to the next iteration :3
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>>161244987
ZeroWolf
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>>161244378
I object to all of this desu.
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>It is an entire team and the only div go to A episode
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>161244987
kittykami :3
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>>161245241
t. AT
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>>161245178
>>161245286
High tier qt material tbqh.
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>>161245286
Have you got your minekaze?
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>>161244987
I'm the dude with shitty 3rd world internet at 20kbps.
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>>161245384
Is that you Abrach?
>>161245241
t. Raptor's fursona
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>>161245484
No. MISOT
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>>161245545
Top tier.
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>>161244378
>Morty that high
>Arlios that high
>Hotel that low
>a bunch of missing anons
try again
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>>161244378
>not even on the list

t. Big_Spud
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>>161244378
literally who the fuck are half these subhumans?
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>>161244987
i sexually identify myself as the HMS nelson and id like to be referred as a royal navy ship.
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>>161245702
Feel free to amend the list, this is purely from personal experience.
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Is Svietlana as bad as people make her out to be?
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>>161246581
its a T4 ship, who cares if its good or bad. youll be done with it in like 10 battles
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So this is the power of....

..secondaries
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>>161244378
>tfw make the list THREE times
my cat is CUTE!
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>>161246830
>sub 30k
No, that's not the power of secondaries.
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>>161246913
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>>161244378
Did you know Arlios, Haruna and Iri found out about 4chan through Raptor's stream in summer?
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>>161248318
disgusting
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>>161248407
Indeed.
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>>161248503
why would greg come to /wowsg/ if he hates raptor, and why would he watch his stream if he hates raptor?

also i aint mentioned and i dont know who arlios is
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>>161248503
>been here for almost as long as these threads have existed
>still not on the list
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>>161248671
I didn't make the list but it's spot on.
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Dunkler is still fun as fuck.
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>>161248884
you must have just been lucky enough to play against retards
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>>161248671
>>161248676
>>161248745
>guy 'updates' the list
>still misses a bunch of people
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>>161248914
yea like u LOL
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>>161249703
youre trash dude
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>>161249789
what about my trash?? LOL retard can't even grammar right
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>>161248503
>>161248745
>EkV still listed twice
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>>161248503
>being a namefag
>remembering other people's names
>implying that people need to be led to /wowsg/ when its a thread on one of the most active websites in the world
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>>161248503
>still under the "found wowsg from raptor's stream" section

th-thanks
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>curious to find when the first screenshot I posted was
>end up browsing through early 2015 /wowsg/s just checking out who else was posting their screenshots at the time too
;_;
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>>161248503
>>161249372
>>161249943
>>161250216
>>161250220
kek, nice list
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>>161248503

>kancollewasamistake
>not a angry WoT holdover from gup and plsgo

get it right nigga
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>>161250216
It's good to know who the newfags are. Why does it bother you "anon".
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>two tears of the desert ebincenter games in a day
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>>161250396
How are you supposed to get much out of a list that's so inaccurate?
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>>161250518
What's so inaccurate about it, Arlios?
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>>161250587
>been posting in these threads since early 2015 and still not on the list
>every time he posts it there's a number of other people saying they're not on the list either
>still hasn't fixed someone being listed twice
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>>161248503
>HP_Lovesauce
>True /wowsg/
How?
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>>161244378
How and why did I get that high..?
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>>161251313
Assuming you're Mosh or Chou, because you're qt.
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>>161248503
>don't speak up because I'm not an attention whoring faggot
>this means I wasn't here at all in 2015 and I watch some faggots's stream
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>>161248503
this picture is the ultimate bait
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>>161251429
Could it be possible that the list was made by Raptor in order to cause confusion and panic among /wowsg/?
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>>161251646
If he makes lists like he plays cruisers it would explain why it's so poorly done.
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What can I do to raise my average exp in a n Udaloi?I try to cap and fight other destroyers all the time but I'm 3-400 exp below the average
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>>161251646
>making a list admitting to attracting cancer
no thanks
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>5600 doubloons on hand
>T6-8 prems on discount
Which is better: Molotov or Leningrad?
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>>161252657
Average xp includes premium. If you're not using premium you're not doing terribly.
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>wahh my name isn't on this list, it's inaccurate

Well geez autismo, how about you tell us who you are instead of throwing a tantrum you manchild.
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>>161252943
he's a literal who obviously
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>>161252848
the molotov is pretty cool
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>>161252943
It's more entertaining to watch someone claiming to know everyone here be provably wrong. It'll also be funnier if he puts me in the wrong category.
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>Having fun in gunbote Hatsu
>Arcs of RU DD guns
>Maneuverability of US DD
>~1km stealth fire window with AFT
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>>161252848
Leningrad is a fantastic DD and it's t7
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>>161253471
and the reload time of a cruiser
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Let me just say, I respect all anons. But some are bad, and they need to go.
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>>161254980

>>161250394
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>>161254980
>STILL not on there
Cmon guys, you remembered I existed enough to start shitposting about me before.
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>>161255271
why would you want to be associated with a picture thats meant to bait and rile people up?
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>>161255234
"no"

2010 fag here, I sure as fuck don't recognize him.

>>161255368
Sup newfag, can you go away?
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>>161255368
Tbh I just want to see how long it takes him to remember me, considering I've been here almost as long as these threads have existed.
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>>161255403
imagine taking pride in being loyal to wargaming and a shit general in a shit board on a shit website. you are an autist my guy.
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>>161255524
You're already on the list Rapespammer aka IkeJM aka DessStar.
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>>161255615
Not me senpai, guess again.
Protip; I was posting screenshots with my name back in CBT.
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>>161255783
nobody cares enough about you to guess who you are
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>>161255783
Okay Rapespammer.
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>>161255783
If you aren't on the list you're either a literal who cancer or completely worthless
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tankyness
>>
potent
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>>161255783
That you Seeker?
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>>161255856
>cares enough to make a list to name and shame people
>but not enough to actually get it all correct
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>>161254980
reminder that if you're in the /true wowsg/ column but aren't an unicum by now you are actually really bad at the game
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double citadel
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>>161256081
that's because it's for shitposting purposes and false-flagging

it makes you a complete retard for careing about this
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>tfw not on the list
>tfw glad you're not associated with this shitty b8
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>>161256151
Okay Raptor :^)
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>>161256203
>I don't like it, it's shitposting

"no"
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>>161256682
t. shitposter
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>>161256682
it is the very definition of shitposting
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This is a good general.
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>>161256807
If you're a newfag who discovered 4chan and /vg/ through Raptor's stream in summer, try to actually be anonymous unlike those listed.

It's hard, isn't it? You had to reveal yourself because that's what kids do these days because they don't understand the importance of being anonymous.
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>>161257045
ive been here since before /vg/ was created and I haven't used twitch in my life.
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and of course
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>>161257045
What if I've been in generals since before /vg/ was split off, and in these threads since CBT?
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>have the best game I ever played.
>watch replay
>notice I still turned broadside too much and took far more damage than I should have. I only got lucky the enemy didn't exploit my mistakes or rng saved my ass.
>any good feelings I had melt away.
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pop my smoke
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>>161251419
Maybe the former, maybe
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>had to repair engine to not eat a torp and an Atago just gets 4 fires on me in a single salvo
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I don't know why people are saying this ship is weak
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>>161257771
Ok Mosh.
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>>161257771
I can't be the only one that things mosh is a giant faggot right?
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>>161257852
RNG is balans
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>>161255403

he went by Kungfuckwhatever and ShekelerUndKoch

[/spoiler]before he sold that account to some chink like a fucking idiot[/spoiler]
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that ship is very toasty right now
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khabbyvorst
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fubuki torps
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a deadly combo
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I dewnt undterstand why vee gee released this ship in her current state
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fire and flooding
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that was a bit unfortunate
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>>161257852
It's your own fault for being that horribly out of position
>No primary hits
Anon.
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chase down the enemy DD
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Why is someone spamming flamu quotes again?
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>>161248503
this image is objectively false, ive been on this sinking ship since the beginning and im not on the list.
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>wild DD attempts to torp me from afar
>misses because torps are shit, slow and I can dodge easy as fuck
>just boting along and he gets in my detection range of him
>secondaries light him up
>one salvo of my main turrets
>one hits from 4km away, thanks RNG
>detonation
great!
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ive been spotted so i pop my radar and there he is
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>>161248503
> I found out about 4chan and /vg/ thx to faptor stream
KEK, more like I found out about Faptor thx to /wowsg/
Good bait.
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>some asshole brings a clemson to a T8 fight in a div
>ignore the clemson completely
>he somehow sneaks up behind my NC
>who cares the secondaries will get him
>he fires torps
>one hits me
>DETONATION
>my NC dies
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>>161258959
Outskilled.
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>>161258959
There is literally no way a Clemson could ever see T8s
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>>161258959
Liar
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>>161258959
its impossible for a T8 to see a Clemson senpai
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>enemy shoots at me
>one shot hits my front
>RUDDER JAMMED


>shoot 12 shots from my colorado
>hits enemy New Mexico
>no damage
>incapacitated his guns, ruined tons of his AA and secondaries
???
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>>161258897
t.desperate damage control
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>>161258959
Yea that happened alright, also I'm a qt botegirl
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>>161259172
>tfw no qt botegirl gf
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>>161259030
>>161259082
>>161259172

>ASSHOLE BRINGS A CLEMSON TO A T8 FIGHT IN A DIV

>someguy in an amagi
>divs up with another guy
>other guy brings a clemson
>clemson gets into a T8 match
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>>161258559
The enemy got spotted only when I was between those islands , I thought I could get past those islands without being detected
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>>161259136
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>tfw too smart to believe raptor's lies
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>>161259229
you cannot div with a ship that is 2 tiers greater than yours.

i think you misread benson as clemson dude
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>>161259229
Divs are +-1 tier faggot
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>>161259136
Why is she so perfect?
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>>161259229
I mean I know you're farming You's but just in case you're actually retarded they changed matchmaking like 3 patches ago you dumb nigger
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>>161259381
>>161259378
oh no they removed that feature? thats gay, it was hilarious to bring small ass tier ships to huge matches
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>>161259238
How'd you lose all your health in the first 3 minutes of the match?
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WG only allows a difference of 1 tier in divs, so the highest a T4 can div with is T5, which can only get into a T7 game.
I'm not even giving you a full (Yo because your bait is so shitty, try again next time.
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>>161259443
maybe he ate a fat citadel
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Daily Reminder as a BB always take pot shots because you never know when you'll get 3x citadels on an enemy who cares hes dead
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>>161259354
>implying you need to be smart to not believe him
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>>161259502
How'd he not spot a BB coming at him?
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>>161259556
>take pot shot at enemy
>shells make a circle around him

german bb's
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>all this damage control from newfags
shilling my stream on reddit was a FUCKING MISTAKE
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>>161248503
>>161254980
>>161256151
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>>161259815
Nigga I've been posting here since before you even started playing this game.
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>>161259815
Aren't you the guy who plays with Arlios?
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>>161259443
I ate a BB citadel some fire damage and a lot of focus fire because I was 1 km in front of the other cruisers so I couldn't turn to get behind the island ,all I'm saying is I could have probably escaped with a bit of health if it weren't for those fires.
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>>161259815
nobody cares about your shitty stream dude
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>>161259815
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>>161259951
>he's a CBT reroll
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>>161260113
>He doesn't have an Ark Beta
:^)
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>get shot at by a myoko
>3 fucking fires
>repair that shit
>repairer cycles
>no fires still gettting shot at while repper is going
>repper ends
>THE SHIP IS ON FIRE!

Why won't WG fix RNG fires?
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you guys got anything better to do than argue over who was playing the game first?
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>>161260109
>Losing to memer_lemur
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>>161260297
I was playing this game before it was cool
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>>161260297
you got anything better to do than to critique people arguing over who played the game first?
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>>161260397
yes, actually playing the game.
>>
>Who started playing the earliest

Easy, anyone with an Alpha flag of course :^)
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>>161260379
world of warships was never cool man
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>>161260297
They're not arguing about who played the game first.

They're arguing about people who found out about 4chan and /vg/ through Raptor's stream in mid summer.
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>tfw want to sell my Nagato to get some cash flowing for when new IJN DDs are out
>32k XP from researching Amagi
Why did the new DDs have to come so late? now i HAVE to get that 32k xp or i will hate myself forever
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Hiuuuuuuuge torps coming in
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>>161232745
It's a funny thing with Mutsuki, she's a shitty ship, she just sucks, period.

But it's so fun to play.
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What should my T4 skill be for my nip destroyer?
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>>161260656
1. wrong, not anymore
2. i doubt anybody here did, i also doubt more than 10 people watch his stream let alone more than 1 of them deciding to come to /vg/.
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>>161260807
whats funny is the minekaze is better than the mutsuki
>hey guys you get a little extra torp damage
>also we double your reload time
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>>161260853
>i also doubt more than 10 people watch his stream let alone more than 1 of them deciding to come to /vg/.

see >>161254980
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>>161234938
>for a battleship captain
are you retarded?
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>>161260829
SE

or AFT if you actually like using your guns for some reason.

>>161260952
how do we know they came here from raptors stream? did you ask them?
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>>161261009
You don't need to ask a nigger if he's black.
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https://youtu.be/25PuE79Ubv8

POST TRAX
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>>161261104
what a great analogy, really made sense.
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reminder that luger is an active redditor
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>>161261009
i remember during summer, arlios showed up in the /vg/ chat and introduced himself "hello i am arlios" and then left and kept doing it to attract more attention which got him posting more and more often here.

you can deny it all fucking day long with no proof or argument that they've been here before raptor got OJ banned but it's not going to convince anyone here
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>>161260952
>linking to the chart that's already been proven to be inaccurate
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hmmm I wonder what could've caused these three to follow raptor's stream so close together...

perhaps a post on reddit?
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Speaking of meaningless lists, statskun are you here? You mentioned something about a change to the algorithm for bote skill, any word on what you're actually doing?
I still have a few days to statpad before the next update after all :^)
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>>161261789
new list tuesday
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>>161261328
Where's the proof to why it's inaccurate? :)
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>>161261995
Looks like it's still missing people.
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>tfw the only time /wowsg/ remembers you exist is when they're trying to shitpost as you
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>>161261541
busted
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>>161261541
It should say when they followed.
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>>161261541
>Sukairine
>I'm Skyrine
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>>161262352
that pic REALLY makes me think
>>161262375
pretty sure all the follows are in order of when they followed, so these three are fucking EARLY
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Is the fubukii worth it?
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>>161261541
Looks like Haruna aka Spammist unfollowed Raptor's stream because he followed right after Godzilla.
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>>161261789
This done for every ship. Gonna do this for individual ship rankings, not sure if I'm gonna do this for Aggregate/Solo Skill(tm), though.

May still tweak it a bit.
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>>161262725
buy the mutsuki and just leave it in port for a while
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>>161262742
>unfollowed on his new main account
>completely forgot to remove the evidence of his first account
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>tfw not on shitpost-kun's list because people don't remember I exist
feels good man
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>>161262806
Statposter-kun's coffee stained legal pad!
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>>161262806
I'm a dummy, what major changes am I going to see as an end user? More focus on solo WR?
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>>161262474
for those that don't know, sukairine=skyrine=haruna_kai_ni
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>>161263002
Eh. More of a sliding scale and less hard cutoffs. The difference between having 9 and 10 solo games played is now no longer night and day.

The focus on solo WR hasn't changed. What changes is how that focus is manifest.
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>>161262902
The damage control is real, holy shit you are truly autistic.
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>>161263115
Thanks stats-kun.
My quest to be the best /wowsg/ at my favorite botes continues.
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>>161263002
Some examples for you.
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ohio~
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>>161263261
>team based game
>measuring solo encounters like it fucking matters
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>>161264218
t. Greg
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>>161264154
fuck off trash
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>>161264218
t. wavebave
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>TEAM BASED GAME
>ur only good on your own
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>>161264532
Why would he complain about solo with close to 80% solo win rate? Bad shitposter-kun, you can do better than that.
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>>161264638
>sub 250 solo games
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>>161264767
I don't think any of the people that have too few solo games to be counted really care about it m8.
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>>161264767
I'm pretty sure he told me he's going to play enough games to get above that threshold, if he hasn't already.
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Why didn't they make Shinano the Jap T10 carrier instead of a paper project which doesnt even have a fucking wikipedia page?
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>>161265034
)))))))))

Thats why
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>>161262806
How'd you get so good at stats?
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>>161265034
It used to be in the game. Not sure why they took it out desu.
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>>161265116
I can't believe, anon prefers statskun's stats to mine.
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>>161265116
That shit is quite arbitrary.
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>actually going out of the way to calculate erroneous fucking solo stats instead of using more tangible measurements like participation via damage per round or something
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>>161264767
but he has 256 solo games?
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>>161265292
>like participation via damage per round or something
t. CVnt
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>>161265296
who fucking cares how many games he has
>>
Thinking about buying Tirpitz or Scharnhorst, which one?
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>>161265034
The Shinano as designed was intended to serve as a glorified mothership, carrying spare planes and parts to replenish the flight groups of other carriers. Shinano herself was meant to have a meager air group herself. WG saw this on wikipedia and decided that, instead of ahistorically altering Shinano's air groups, it would've been better to pull a paper CV out of their ass.
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>>161265292
t. Greg22xRaptor
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>>161265362
>no I want to calculate statistics with a huge wide array of error instead of something more accurate and tangible because I have a coniption
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>>161265406
Statskun.
He didn't show up in the solo list with sub-250 games.
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>>161265493
scharnhorst for fun
tirpitz for credits
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>>161265506
That wasn't the reason..
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>>161265493
schamhorst

tirp is overrated and its shit
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>>161265538
lol I'm very happy with a 60% solo winrate over the past year, but greg still has that
>45% solo winrate
to worry about lmao
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>>161265553
>only thing that matters is the ability to win games
>instead of measuring that I want muh damage farming against BBs to count for more than people who actually do something more useful
>>
>Greg
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>>161265705
>win games
that has nothing to do with "solo" shit in a team based game, there isn't even correlation there because of your extraneous disposition between solo and the rest of the team
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>>161265854
>I get carried in divs
>When I play solo, I can't get carried and get mad at the rest of my team
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>>161265854
I'm not statskun m8.
>there's no correlation between skill and winning games
There's a reason better players have better solo and div win rates than shitters.
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>it's a "these are your teammates" episode
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>>161265034
wg planned to have a armored carrier line with akagi and kaga as well. shinano would be a t10 on the line, with 40 active planes but ~200 dismantled on reserve

this is of course complicated and was indefinitively postponed
>>
Do penetrations to the turret barbettes above what is labeled as the citadel hitbox also count as citpens?
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>>161266057
there is literally no fucking difference. You think picking up randos in div is different than picking up randos out of div? please, somehow extrapolating that someone is better for their win rate is solo when the ENTIRE fucking game revolves around how the team does as a whole is testamount to how erroneous a solo measurement is when your involvement is a fraction of the overall team performance.

Measuring death rates is a better metric, measuring participation through credits earned from damage or just damage flat out is a superior measurement because its something that the rest of the team has no bearing on. You pick the WORST statistic of measuring win rate as if you do this stupid mental gymnastic thats so extraneous and erroneous your statistical deviation and standard deviation must be fucking huge.

How do you even stratify these stats? please extrapolate this and present it as such because I can already smell huge fucking margins of error in coming
>>
I wish i could cream a ship citadel while holding hands.
>>
deep down the only real status that could indicate someone's contributuion would be base exp without win bonus

farming damage is shit because even exp is given on % damage done on enemy. cap exp is balanced by defense flags and cap negation, things that there are no metric for.

even then its not perfect. it ignores scouting and air dominance.

we should just accept that every stat posting is shitposting and just move on with the shitposting.
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>>161266971
I agree, measuring base EXP would be leagues better in measuring participation than something as fallacious as winrate
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>>161267039
I think it would still be better to measure what kind of ship the player uses mixed with their appropriated death rate. You can gauge their survivability in said ships. Whats their preferred tier and then you can base which role they like to play and stratify it further.

there are SO many other factors to consider than fucking solo WR
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>>161265632
Then provide a better one.
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>>161266914
tbqh divisioning is always the correct choice.

stats kun is a dork that literally thinks a team based game should have less team based tools.

ranked for instance was a nice change of pace because noone had divisions. random battles has divisions and as such people should division to improve their chances of winning.

team battles will literally be huge divisions fighting against each other. to win those of course we should look into the players who have better WR on divisions

t. a f35xlightining fan that recently turned orange
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>>161267039
Exp. is influenced by premium and that's why it's an unusable shit metric.
Sites don't take into account the difference between premium and non-premium users and i think stats anon imports data from the sites.
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>>161267420
>Exp. is influenced by premium and that's why it's an unusable shit metric.
isn't there a BASE exp gained before the features of flags, premium and daily exp bonuses are added in?
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>>161266612
>armored carrier line
So what, we get the Kaga and Akagi at T7 and 8, respectively?
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>>161266715
no
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>>161267462
>>161267420
yes but it is impossible to get

at best we can remove the win bonus off the average exp gained but thats it. anyone with premium is suddenly 100% more skilled that anyone without
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>get hit by an enemy
>take no damage but my torpedo tubes were destroyed
????
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is this how you do it?
ffs i was fucking shaking it was a 1v1 with a gneisenau when i was at really low health
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>>161267589
>Shoot ship with a 16" HE shell
>One shell hits
>Destroys a single AA mount and does no damage
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>>161267602
do what?
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>>161267602
>Coop

Try again kiddo
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>>161267602
surprised it didn't just bum rush you and torp you to death
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>>161267518
afaik they would be tier 9 and shinano is tier 10. i dont remember who would get tier 8 but i know that kaga and akagi are too similar to not be on the same tier.
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>>161267693
it wasn't coop though, you can very clearly read Hotspot -- Random Battle on the top right
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>>161267305
How did Noone get divisions in Ranked?

>>161267420
>how do API works??
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>>161267693
what did eh mean by this
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>>161267547
They should really release an API for people to draw information from that actually fucking matters. So far none of these stats I see on the wowstats are fucking helpful since every factor is just a factor of another factor
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>>161267693
it says random battle right on the screen.

>>161267794
divisions arent allowed in ranked
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>>161267710
I was about to until i saw torps fly past me and remembered that fucker has torpedoes, then i just noped the fuck out and switched to HE.
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>>161267794
he is a known hacker.

noone managed to reverse engineer the game and enable all that shit for himself.

he is also known for thinking he knows statistics. noone knows that statistic are merely indicative of something because the whole metric system is flawed.
>>
>>161266971
>>161267039
The fundamental problem with base XP is that ultimately, it is an aggregate of stats, except done on WG's backend and is in a completely black box. But no extrapolation is perfect, and what is important is if it makes sense on an overall gestalt of performance since there is truly no "gold standard" of performance.

From what I've seen, base XP feels like it correlates pretty well with who does how well in a game but we have no clue how it's calculated and could be something as hamhanded as how WTR is calculated. And since base XP (as reported) is saddled by the fact that it isn't TRULY base xp due to 1.5x win and premium modifiers, it's a completely garbage stat and unusable as implemented.

>>161266914
Except you are not div'ing with randoms. The fact that the solo and div'd server average WRs for individual ships are drastically different is proof of that fact.

It is a team game, yes, but a good player will be able to sway more games toward victory than a bad player will. That's why sample number matters. Bad solo stats over a small number of games can very well be sampling error. Bad solo stats over a large number of games is Dunning-Kruger in action. :^)

>>161267794
>how do API works??
API doesn't report base XP, only average XP. The XP as reported in API are with the win and premium modifiers added on.
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>there are people in this thread who think that overall win-rate isn't an indicator of individual skill levels.
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>>161267941
>>161267794
also i forgot. noone was seen in a division with his bff, anyone.
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>>161267794
What the fuck APIs have to do with this, are you just spouting terms you don't you?
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>>161267981
i know (by observation and some dev QnA) that the exp gotten from damage is based off % damage done to ships, and that landing the killing blow on a ship is something i think i heard 15% of the ship's hp in terms of exp.

it feels like the most correct of all WTR, WR and other methods of skill measurement i have seen. it makes sense as well because its used in game to determine advancement.

if we could measure base exp per tier, it might just be one of the better means to quantify someone's skill.

>>161268170
wg's api dont count that shit. you cant ask for base exp, all you get is average won per game, with all bonus included.
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>>161268050
t. good goy
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>>161268050
you cant trick me
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>>161268050
Its not, since match making is purely random and team set up is random and the number of ships, tiers, and even fucking placement at start is random its not a good stat to use at all. WR is so convoluted by spewing random bullshit that even if you "do well" with a higher than average win rate is not indicative of your performance since you are probably equally likely to carry or be carried by an enemy or just get fucked by a team of fucking retards or face off against a team of fucking retards
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>>161268050
t. Black Swan
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>>161268050
even the MM can easily disprove it.

i know that shit of
>it will eventually normalize

but its only valid for tremendous amount of tries. at some point you have to imagine you are fighting against MM more that the enemy team, and surprise, divisioning is the best means to ensure that at least 2 of your allied team's position are not working against you.
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>>161268306
What does "api" stands for?
>>
game is stuck in match loading screen with no players and game mode is IDS__TITLE, restarting doesnt help

what do?
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>>161268465
>I don't know how large numbers work
>>
>>161268603
see
>>161268559
faggot. Large number of trials does not magically remove all error from statistical analysis. This is where we use correlation to measure the effect of two entities on each other relative to other factors. Poor correlation leads to two elements being either unrelated or so skewed by external factors that its useless.
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>>161268465
i used to be blue playing myoko and mogami

decided to level german BBs, orange and red daily until gneisau, then i said fuck it, it was fun but i could feel my skills getting worse

got back to destroyers, i dont fucking know why, i used to be blue on it, i cant score half decent. then i noticed my matches have a absurd number of cruisers and soviet DDs.

theres definitively a means to use the retarded playerbase and the MM to win harder.
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>>161268602
Alt+f4, restart game asap and hope youre still in time.
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>>161268832
no you see, i already did that, the game didn't even get me into an actual match, the player list is completely empty (as in it doesn't even include me) and there is no actual game mode, just a map that never loads, already restarted twice.
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>>161268578
it obviously means avaliable program for internet
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>>161268832
NEvermind its fixed, im back to port
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>>161268826
exactly, this is why removing elements that could work against you by divisioning up is a huge advantage. You can probably infer that teams of divisions are way better than rando distributions of players

Until WG actually provides real, tangible, and useful data for statistics analysis there is no real way to measure skill
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>>161268465
That also applies to all the players, hence solo w/r reflects how good you are individually, of course that assuming there's sufficient data (1000-2000 matches at least).
That's why you can't achieve 55% w/r but a good player can, it's not just bad luck on your end, but of course a greenshitter like you wouldn't understand.
Also you never see a high solo w/r player with bad damage or k/d ratio stats, i wonder why :^)
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Reminder that TOP BOTE is always looking for exceptional players. 60% winrate+ only, might make an exception for 57%ish
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>>161269135
kys
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>>161268727
Of course it doesn't remove all error. What it minimizes, however, is sampling error.

Correlation is all fine and good, but what are you gonna correlate it to? What's your gold standard of performance that you are going to compare any metric to? And the more factors you throw in, the more error you stand to introduce.

And so rather than correlate it to nothing (or if you'd like, the unobtainable "base xp" metric), my philosophy is that the goal of the game is to win, and so the simplest metric of performance is how good you are at swaying your team's chances of victory.

I certainly welcome you to make your own metric of performance.
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>>161269096
Biggest vraiable is the stupidity of your enemies, not your own skill. I wrecked a Tenryu with that t2 RN cruiser at close range which should be near impossible.
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>>161269096
your margin of error and lack of correlation are still lack luster. You don't just get amazing perfect statistics and avoid all error just because you do a bajillion erroneous trials.
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>>161266914
>You think picking up randos in div is different than picking up randos out of div?
Does anyone here actually go onto the division searcher and pick up randos? /vg/ chat doesn't count, the average /vg/ is somewhat better than your average rando.
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>>161269135
>forgot link
https://discord.gg/yZQkhHm
whoops
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>>161268727
Oh my fucking god, this kind of retardation could only belong to AT.
AT_Barrage is that you?
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how much of a pleb am i if my win rate is 49.90%?
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>>161269262
>What it minimizes, however, is sampling error.
thats all it does. IT doesn't minimize ANY other error which is where these statistics fall through is because your deviation is still wicked ass high and you have poor margins and NO correlation
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>>161269580
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>>161269580
You're extremely average among the overall playerbase. You're not actively fucking over the team, but nobody will be expecting you to be carrying anything.
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>>161269580
Disregard wr and just do your best. It's not like wows is your job.
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>>161269580
join the discord posted above so we can laugh at you
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>>161269661
Deviation to what?

Correlation to what?

Margins?
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>>161269578
>doesn't understand statistics
>NOO SEE I DID A BAJILLION TRIALS THEYRE FUCKING ACCURATE
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>Arpeggio of Blue Steel ending this december!
>ARP Takao is up for grabs for about 3 days more
>after that we should get a rerun of all old missions
>H A I F U R I should be next
>graf spee and possibly its animay version should be coming
>german DDS coming soooooooon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZ_Zcm3U4U [Poi]
>IJN DDs coming this week likely
>only poi and ducky are truly exceptional
>everything else is different flavors of poor gunnery and invisitorp
>turkey genocide day promos are up until day 29
>get a year of premium for 46 bux or 10 port sluts for 7 bux or something like it
>skill revamp, https://sea-group.org/?p=1769&lang=en
what are you gonna do when a funbucket goes around tier 6 with 9 torps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-qjxa8k1Xg [Poi] [Anime]
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>>161260829
save your exp and get the concealment on t5
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>I div with my low/mid tier friends
>They're unicums with 60%+ WR and horrible yellow/red everything else
>My div vs solo stats are basically the same, 55% WR blue shitter

I noticed I'm actually probably going to end up green soon since I was indirectly seal clubbing by playing with my friends and I can't play high tiers for shit.
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>>161269082
thats A reason to division. if you would do your best to in in the match why not do so before the match starts?

>>161269523
tbqh thats the point of divisioning. at least looking for someone that can work a plan is the ideal, despite i dont look to be carried or to carry i expect a modicum of tryhardness
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>>161269795
dodge them and kill them just like I would to any other DD in T6
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>buy the year of premium
>nothing but bottom tier games even in my T7s
Really makes me think.
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>>161269396
>anecdotal evidence
:^)

>>161269438
>game is about winning
>a player that is good at the game is one that wins at the game
>solo w/r not correlated to how good a player is at the game

You're just pretending to be retarded, right anon?
Protip: no statistic is 100% correct either, but that doesn't mean it's wrong; large data reduces errors to acceptable levels.
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>>161269762
>I don't know that my win rate has huge margins of error due to all the contributing factors. Nor do I have any way of measuring it
>I don't have any correlation between the winrate of a player and their supposed skill since win rate doesn't measure anything other than public match ups against randos. I also have no way of measuring my contribution to the teams success and the winrate SINCE I CANT FUCKING CORRELATE THE TWO
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>>161269997
o-oh.

i guess.
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>>161270021
>>solo w/r not correlated to how good a player is at the game
>no correlation provided, but I swear its correlated.
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>>161269681
>all data collated in one stat
He could be good with cv's but suck at dd's, hate Trident but wreck enemies on Two Brothers, etc, etc.
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>>161269784
You're spewing bullshit, you can't even spell.

>>161269762
Don't mind him, i think he's just a retarded below 50% shitter at this point.
He's probably AT_Barrage, can any Discord autist confirm?
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>>161270164
for class it would be easy to fix

for map theres no excuse, except ocean.

fuck ocean.
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>>161270021
>>anecdotal evidence
=a sample. You are basing your argument on samples too.
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>>161270057
Such contributing factors even out over a large number of games since your average team and average enemy team are (on the average) equal to each other. The only constant is you. (Or your div.)

I have chosen to base my calculation of player skill on your historical ability to influence your team's odds of victory. Feel free to make another metric. Be sure to correlate it (to what, god if I know). :^)
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>>161269795
fuckbucket a cute
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>Arguing statistics with people that aren't statisticians
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>>161270262
how the fuck would you confirm that?
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>>161270164
Exactly. These fucking stat retards that took one semester of highschool stats and one semester of simple linear algebra think they can stratify all skill to one fucking number then claim that their results are fool proof because they did tons of trials which only eliminates sampling error. Never mind the fact they have no way of stratifying their statistics regardless. They won't even admit the error exists or how to correct for it because they won't admit they're fucking wrong
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>>161270329
this whole thread is a mess, and I feel embarrassed for making it.
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>>161270150
Do you really can't see the correlation?
Are you retarded?

What would even be, if not winning at the game, the factor that makes me a good player of a game?
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>>161270329
>statistics
Which is not quantum mechanics. Anyone truly objective and patient can learn to apply it with a minmal margin of error.
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>>161270294
There's a saying "the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'". You haven't even provided more than one anecdote.
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>>161270432
This is why it's important for people to go to weekend worship. It keeps them from shitposting.
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>giving a shit about stats when there's not even skill based MM
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>>161270525
clearly this thread has noone that managed to do so
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>>161270302
>Feel free to make another metric
I don't have to make another metric. I'll wait till WG releases their fucking formula for XP or some other tangible way to measure raw participation because you can carry a team or be carried and never actually contribute to the teams success since each game mode relies on an an objective. Theres no way to measure how well a DD pilot does or whether he caps points, provides smokes or how well he is at his torpedo placement etc. You can't even measure gun accuracy since the dispersion is inherently RNG to begin with.

There are SO many metrics you could use to measure a players skill and WR isn't a good way at all. A player could be incredibly skilled with his DD but lose a majority of the time because a DD can't win on his own because theres no I in TEAM
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>>161270507
>me a good player of a game?
Too general, see the difference between Wows and Dark Souls
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>>161270294
Holy shit that's gold.

I assume you don't understand basic logic and language at this point.
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>>161270507
>Do you really can't see the correlation?
You haven't posted any let alone even attempted to link the two. You just juxtaposed a statement without any evidence and assumed it was correct because you said so.
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>get one week of premium
>move from unicum to super unicum just because my average XP increased a lot
This shit is rigged right?
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>>161270391
Stats are like the SAT. It measures your ability to get high numbers according to the metric in question. Whether or not it correlates with actual performance is a judgment call.

>>161270592
A player that keeps on losing is more and more likely to be doing something wrong. Stats don't operate in absolutes. But the more frequently you lose, the more likely you are to be a shitter.
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>>161270592
>because a DD can't win on his own
A balans DD like Kami R or Umikaze can inluence it pretty much.

I agree on the teamwork bit, though
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>>161270571
>skill based MM is introduced
>pro players purposefully start playing like shit to lower stats
>low skill MM is now filled with pro players who get easy kills
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>>161270391
>linear algebra
>anything to do with this kind of statistics

You know a lot of buzzwords, don't you?
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>>161270164
Now I'm imagining some kind of American documentary where they call in and interview a "Two Brothers Specialist."
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>>161270814
>smurf accounts become a thing
>gotta get premium on them too
>to prevent further faildivisioning players cant division with someone of different color
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>>161270743
WTR is not without its faults
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>>161270764
The SAT has a lot more reliable information and stratifies it down on a per question basis. If you've ever taken an SAT and purchased one of their stats sheets opening up where you did wrong or where you did well you'll see that it'll open up literally every field of every question. It'll give you a question by question stat for what answer you picked vs other student's choices of answers.

CollegeBoard has their tests down to a science, their error margin is limited and reduced to mere population error
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>>161270650
>I assume
A desperate lie because you are losing the argument. That battle was a sample as valuable as any other single sample.
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>>161270869
You need linear algebra to calculate these things. Often you'll take algebra before you touch stats and calc.
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>>161270949
if WG had dedicated that much effort to the API we would have even more shitposting about these metrics because we would still have doubts about how to measure skill.
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reminder that JakeNS is stats-kun and is directly responsible for all of these posts
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>>161271150
>dedicated that much effort to the API
it would be easy to extract if they just released the formula and source code to how things like base EXP are calculated before all modifiers
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>>161270946
WTR is fucking awful.

>>161270949
That's not what I'm talking about. What is the SAT used to measure? Your skill as a student? Your skill at critical thinking? Your potential as a college student? Sure, there's science to making questions that leads to a "right" answer, but to what purpose? What does a 740 in the Verbal portion of the SATs actually mean to you as a student/person?
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>>161270743
>>161270946
Neither WoWs-numbers PR nor WTR takes into account average experience in their ratings, so if you're super unicum it's because you were doing other things well.
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>>161270648
>game about winning
>win very frequently
>i'm garbage at the game
???
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>>161271205
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>>161271230
>What is the SAT used to measure? Your skill as a student? Your skill at critical thinking? Your potential as a college student?
You just named 3 more valid metrics you can derive from SAT scores than what WG provides in their API.

SAT releases more information about how students think psychologically and how they perform academically. Simply changing the wording of a question greatly impacts a student's ability to interpret, infer and perform. I'm not kidding they analyze every single fucking question down to a pulp you can look at and stratify. They then use these results to formulate 4 (not 1 like in WG's case) levels of performance in cognitive ability and academic thinking.
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>>161271376
Murasame > Poi > Shiratsuyu >the others whose names i forgot
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Meanwhile on /wotg/

>They are arguing about what is and what isn't a furry

I like our stats fight
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>>161271230
>critical thinking
thats a mine field but honestly the tests are made to cover a series of subjects so they can dictate how much of it you know. such may not come to happen on a match, as someone can just avoid situations he wouldnt peform better as, such as divisioning to ensure backup.

>>161271224
would be missing stuff like exp modifiers used. if the whole exp field were to be changed to base exp it would still be difficult, but much better that what it is now, because we could indeed remove the win bonus from it and get a much better aproxximation of how much the damage was worth of the enemy HP and how much the block and capture was worth for the match.
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>>161271230
>What is the SAT used to measure? Your skill as a student? Your skill at critical thinking? Your potential as a college student?
Parental income. This is well known.
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Stats are just numbers, and our number system was invented by the Hindu-Arabics. If there were no numbers, there would be no stats. What if we didn't have numbers?

All this discussion about statistics becomes meaningless in the long run. Once humankind ceases to exist, who will be left to look at our stats? Are numbers even real in nature, or are they just a construction of our humanness?
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>>161271075
I don't know if we're talking about the same level of algebra my friend, cause in my country we use different denominations.
Calculus is referred to as "Analisys".
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>>161271506
man of almost great taste
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>>161271586
Shut up /his/, /sci/ is talking.
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>>161271521
Anthropomorphized botes are no better than furry porn tbqh

>tfw you find some incredibly well drawn furry porn that hits on all your fetishes at once
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>>161271735
Anthromorphized botes make more sense than furry porn desu.

Botes have for a long time had names and seen as women by their crew.

Furries are just zoophiles who want to fuck a dog
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>>161271735
>tfw iktf

Just fap and get it over with, noone needs to know
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>>161271821
as a neutral bystander, theyre both fucking stupid. I don't know how you can rationale turning hunks of floating metal into anime women with big tits and guns attached to them, its really fucking stupid.
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>>161271821
>Meanwhile, in ancient Egypt

At least animals have vagoos. Botes irl don't even have humanoid metal posteriors.
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>>161271586
fool that you are for assuming humanity made anything!

the abstracts that we name what is have always been, we merely gaved shape to the unknown in a attempt to better grasp its ethereal form!

in the deep end of all that there is, we will look at the great everything from the celestial depths of the abyss humanity has made for itself and be happy for all the nothingness we carved for each other!
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>>161272001
desu i just play kancolle to satisfy my need of blowing shit up with good RNG rolls without having to move a finger
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>>161271971
I'll know, anon.
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>>161271230
Also when you send your SAT scores to colleges you want to attend, the college doesn't just get 3 big numbers on a piece of paper. They get the same statistical break down of every question in those tests you've taken. They don't base their decision on performance based on 1 metric (or 3 based on math, reading, and grammar)
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can we go back to discussing world of botes instead of furfags and boatsluts?
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>>161271821
>Botes have for a long time had names and seen as women by their crew.
This desu.
We're just following in tradition.
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>>161271673
No, you don't understand. Our understanding of the world is based on our human cognition. We have mathematics, literature and the sciences to explain, record, calculate and express values and ideas. However, once there are no longer any humans left, are these ideas still valid? Are multiplication, differential calculus, trigonometry, and logic theory even valid in a humanless world?

In a world where intelligent life no longer exists, for instance through an extinction event, numbers no longer have any meaning. In a world where intelligent life does exist, just different to our own selves as humans, numbers may not exist as other free-thinking lifeforms may not even have the concept of numbers.
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>>161272194
Nein
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>>161272194
nyet
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>>161272282
>are these ideas still valid?
Yes, the tenures of science are still valid even after their observers die. Things like gravity still work and still pull shit at a constant rate relative to their mass.

The speed of light will still be the same. Everything else and all the formula descriptions will still describe the same phenomena
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>>161271586
>>161272063
Nothing is certain.
This could be just a dream for all we know.
Now, coming to the things that really matter, WHY THE FUCK THIS DREAM HAS NO SEXY BOTEGIRLS TO CURL WITH I WANT TO FUGG A BOTE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEREEEEEEE
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>>161272282
>Are multiplication, differential calculus, trigonometry, and logic theory even valid in a humanless world?
Yea dude, triangles and their proportions are still all proportional
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>>161272425
Lucid dreaming.

Or tulpas.
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>>161272282
>>161272425
would not naming a planet make it not exist? would naming a anon make him a tripfag?

you stare into the abyss that will consume all, and fail to notice, the abyss is all!

all is eternal, for as long as its flame lasts!
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>>161272408
These ideas, gravity and the speed of light, are our human understandings of natural phenomena based on our observations of the universe, and our ability to quantify and calculate these observations using numbers.

Without the existence of cognition, even though these natural concepts are still real, would our numerical representations of them still make sense?
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>>161271735
>>161271821

Boats and other military equipment and vehicles are given female names and characteristics in order to make the men that operate them care for them. The association effect works, it's also the same strange lizard-brain glitch that causes people to have waifus and women to write romantic fan fiction where they self-insert. Humans fall in love with inanimate shit all the time, the military just takes advantage.
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>>161272661
yes they still make sense

an earth without humans, a rock will still fall at the same rate
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Alcohol and conversations like this are the things that lead you to convince your friend that the agricultural revolution was evil and that cognition was a horrible thing for the human species.
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This is some high tier Australian posting going on here.
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>>161272282
Math is a tool created by men to represent something that exists, reality.
The question you're looking for is, does reality still exists when there's nobody to perceive it?
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>>161272728
If only gay men crewed a ship, would the ship become a dude?

If only women crewed a ship, would it be a dude?

What if the ship were crewed by only traps?
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>>161272036
>he wouldn't grope this sexy whore
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>>161272825
It's all Mako's fault, he taught us how to do it
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>>161272936
>If only gay men crewed a ship, would the ship become a dude?
Well the french refer to ships as male so I guess so.
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>>161272728
>in order to make the men that operate them care for them
it was the other way around afaik.

bong ships were named she by their captains taht cared by their ships. ww1 tanks were named she as well, with its exceptions. i know the russian navy called their ships he because they saw their ships as strong and imposing.

tbqh i think humans are peverts because we fall in love with presonalities, and stuff like tanks, doges, ships, they can be personified to the point of being recognized as a lovable person. wich just so happens to not be fuckable.
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>>161272936
That's where Shemalekaze comes in.
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>Go from statistics to nature of the universe

pls no more
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>>161273015
Further in the rabbit hole you go anon.

Also remember to buy some water filters okay, thanks.
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reminder that numbers are useless and the only thing that matters regarding skill is COLOR
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>>161272991
>which just so happens to not be fuckable.
You're not trying hard enough
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>>161272991
>doges ... can be personified to the point of being recognized as a lovable person
ANON NO
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im hitting the bed you fucking analytically depressed nihilists

if you kill yourself before getting a GF ill beat you in your next lifetime with a excel spreadsheet

>>161272907
>if a tree fall in the middle of a forest with noone to behold it, will it make a sound
yes, for itself
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>>161273227
That shit is legal in Canada now.

What a time to be alive.

Day of the Rake when?
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>>161273145
Colour is a facet of human cognition as well though, raptor. Humans perceive frequencies of visible light on the EM spectrum and attribute colours to them, but what if we didn't do this? We can't see radio waves with our eyes as the wavelength is too long, what if visible light was similar?
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>>161273256
Where are the proofs tho ((((
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I finally finished the Takao mission, and she's in my harbor, but I can't actually select her.

Am I missing something?
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>>161273145
hey I have two purple stats

guess I'm unicum and belong to skilled playerbase
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>>161273256
>questioning about the unknown
>thinking GF matters to me

SAVE ME
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>>161273539
Will we get a free skill reset in patch 0.5.3?
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>mfw all these shitters trying to rationalize their awful stats
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>>161272936

It's whatever is most likely to make you not treat your ship like garbage.
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>>161273539
select Yokosuka port
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Guys can you please stop arguing post botes.
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>>161273539

Just reloaded the game and now she's gone

Please tell me I didn't just grind a boatload of exp only to not get her
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>>161273663
What if it's a ship of wife beaters?
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>>161273746
no, we're crashing this thread
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>>161273765

Well then it sinks extra fast
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>>161273746
>says to post botes
>posts weeb shit personification

baka
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>tfw no gf
>tfw no bote gf
>tfw life is okay anyway because I'll always have my botes and /wowsg/
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>mfw there are "people" in this thread that probably think that any country other than the USA mattered in winning WW2
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>>161273691

Thanks, was panicking there
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>>161273916
WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT ANON, GET THE ROPE FAST
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I want to fuck a Hotel.
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>>161272991

You're right in that humans live to personify things and become attached. I mean fucking Wilson from cast away is a perfect example. In sure he must baffle the shit out of people that lack that trait but to most people Wison drifting away was agonizing, and he's a volleyball.
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>>161274004
XAXAXAXAXA

)))))))))))
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>>161274004

But without people to beat up on, how would America win?
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>>161273746
like this ??
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>>161274120
But was Wilson the most volleyball?
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>>161273631
what is going on in this image?
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I think all botes are pretty nice desu.
Just like all of you.
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>>161274306
>BLM has protest in mall
>Tries to stop business to remind people that Tyrone shouldn't have to answer for any crimes he did
>HE DINDU NUFFIN
>White chick was not going to let niggers interfere with the flow of her shopping day
> Proceeds to walk over them to the next store
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post ur hotels kiddo
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>>161274590
better a hilariously failed protest than a chimpout
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>>161274773
Which one? I have 4 of them :^)
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>>161274806
Indeed

I think they were also "trying" holding up a airport near by as well if I recall

That didn't work out too well for them
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That's enough for now.
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>Someone starts dumping your favorite bote in order to shitpost
Pls stop.
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>>161274773
>wearing "pls don't bomb me, I'm an island I swear!" camo while flying an American banner
Truly the greatest humiliation.
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>>161262806
Why would you introduce a penalty for heavily divved games but not for heavy specialization in a single class?
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>>161275923
>using the puke camo
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>>161275976
Because these calculations are for determining who is the best at a particular ship. I am probably not going to adapt it for use in calculations of overall Aggregate/Solo Skill(tm).
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>>161274381
>heavy pagoda tower
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>Yesterday
/wowsg/ fails to understand how stupid the US Electoral College is

>Tonight
/wowsg/ fails to understand statistics

I wonder what will happen tomorrow…

>>161274004
Memes aside, the USSR had a pretty good handle on the 'German problem'.
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>>161277781
TYRRANY OF DAH MUHJORITY
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>>161277876
>
the electoral college pretty much prevents city dwellers and populus centers from dictating how country folk live their lives. those people in the country side get no representation under a popular vote. It also causes more strain when you get tight races where half the populous hates an idea and another half does but because 1 person votes one way decides the entire fate of the country. Democracy is flawed in this way
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>>161278059
>Humanity will never run on hivemind
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>>161278059
no ones buying your snake oil anon
>>
ded
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>>161278409
But we're alive anon.
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>>161278409
We can talk about stats again if you'd like.
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>>161278409
It's not SEA time yet
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>>161278409
id rather have a ded thread than

>bitching about who was here first
>existential crisis
>stats discussion
>having sex with ships
>electoral college

this thread fucking sucks
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>>161278059
>The majority of the governed population shouldnt have a say in who governs them

literally retarded
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>>161278606
>a bunch of city people who know fuck all about the other people they affect with their vote should be able to dictate how others live ruthlessly without representation
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>>161278606
People like you are exactly why the electoral college exists.
>>
Whose rudder would you most like to touch?
>>
Range or reload for Baltimore? If 15.8 km is good enough for Atago it's good enough for Balti, right?

>>161278059
>Democracy is flawed in this way
The abortive parody of democracy practised in the US is flawed in that way. Remove the Electoral college and elect representatives by proportional representation and those problems disappear.
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>>161278693
>a bunch of country people who know fuck all about the other people they affect with their vote should be able to dictate how others live ruthlessly without representation
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>>161278693
>>161278724
>THE MAJORITY SHOULDNT HAVE A SAY IN WHO GOVERNS THEM
You can't make this shit up
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>>161278863
>The abortive parody of democracy practised in the US is flawed in that way. Remove the Electoral college and elect representatives by proportional representation and those problems disappear.
Lol you just replaced the electoral college with the electoral college
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>>161277781
I blame you.
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>>161278863
reload

your arcs make shooting at max range a pain already so why would you want to extend it?
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>>161278909
>the majority of people who do not live the lives that others face in a large and statistically demulsified population should tell the others how to live their lives based on nothing at all
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>>161279052
Yeah, instead you have the minority of people who do not live the lives that others face in a large and statistically demulsified population telling the others how to live their lives based on nothing at all
Much better
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>>161278909
The majority of people in the population centers don't understand what it takes to keep the population centers, and the rest of the country, running.

Which you are demonstrating right now.
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>>161278863
>remove the representatives in place by proportion of population with representatives in place by population proportion

level: retard
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>>161278693
>a bunch of ass backwards country hicks who know fuck all about anything beyond the boundaries of their farm or hole in the ground should be able to dictate who governs the nation as a whole

I mean, they have legitimate concerns and are entitled to having them be addressed, but not at the expense of fucking EVERYONE ELSE. Thats fucking retarded. People like them are why we have fucking Trump, who is not only an ass hole, but has ZERO fucking political experience and is
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>>161279134
You're not american are you?
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>>161277781
The Electoral College is there for a good reason, go back to Civics class and figure out why.
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>>161279234
then thats not representative

Daily reminder the US is not a democracy but a republic. The constitution hands Voting to the states, not explicitly the people
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>>>/pol/
>>>/pre-November8/
>>>/discord/
>>>/24hpunditshows/
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>>161279159
>Which you are demonstrating right now.
Enlighten me how the majority doesn't matter in a """"""""""""""""""""""democratic""""""""""""""""""""""""" government, or how those farm boys know more about how the world works and what keeps the country running than those city slicks.
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"Gearing is a bad ship" - /wowsg/
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>>161279414
Didn't say that stupid ass

You're obviously not american and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you don't know american civics
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>>161278927
>>161279167
>I don't know what proportional representation is

>>161279374
The reason is because a popular vote wasn't feasible at the time the United States was founded because there was widespread disagreement over what constituted a 'person' at the time. That problem no longer exists, hence the Electoral College has outlived its usefulness.
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>>161279485
Would you like to join BOTES? We need good players.
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>>161279414
>a """"""""""""""""""""""democratic""""""""""""""""""""""""" government
ITS NOT A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY

>>161279568
>>I don't know what proportional representation is
that is the electoral college
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>>161279571
kys
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>>161279414
Pic related is for (You)
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>ITT: Non-americans try to tell america how to run their democracy when america was never a democracy
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>>161275923
>Not proudly going into battle in naught but your grey basepaint
>Fearing the puny shells of lesser warships

You dishonour your Hotel, sir.
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>>161279876
>States like California and Texas are the most productive states in the union
>all the people that make that possible have the votes that are worth the least in the country
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>>161279636
>government of the people, by the people, for the people
That's democracy, my m8

>that is the electoral college
The electors are elected in almost all cases by a majoritarian vote. In any case, when I said 'representatives' I was referring to members of legislature, not electors.
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>>161280204
>california
>producing anything other than farts and shitty wine
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>>161279987
>lesser warships
>gets citadeled as well as any other

lol
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POST PATRIOTISM
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>>161280204
>States like California

Stopped reading there
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>>161280251
>divegrass
pls

At least post some good ol' handegg.
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>>161279485
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>>161280221
>That's democracy, my m8
Except its not a democracy. the only things that are publically voted are local and state officials. Everything else is representative through those officials and at the federal level its all representative too. Hell the justices, DA's and everything the president deals with is all appointed, none of it elected not even your vice president.

Fuck off with your useless arbitration of "democracy" America doesn't follow it, doesn't use it and doesn't vote by it.

>what I was referring to was legislature
WE ALREADY HAVE THAT YOU FUCKING FUCK
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>>161280312
>Voting allocated by land and not by population

who thought this was a smart idea
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>>161279876
So this is why New York is a pleb T5 BB compared to based Iowa and Montana :^)
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>>161279485
Gearing IS bad, you're just good at it.

Bad ship + bad player = bad results
Bad ship + good player = good results
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Warspite is fat.
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>Its not democracy its a republic

And that's fucking retarded.
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>>161280387
see
>>161279876
with NYC nullifying 4 entire states. those people go completely un represented
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>>161280221
The pledge goes "To the Republic", not "To the Democracy".

Don't you Yurocucks have your own problems to worry about?
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>>161280242
>t.side-on shitter
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>>161280232
>>161280312
>Muh agriculture
>but the most productive agricultural state shouldn't get as much of a say because I don't agree with what they say
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http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/104955-cvs-should-not-be-able-to-hunt-down-destroyers/

had a game where the enemy CV, i think the tier 9 jap CV, was able to hunt down friendly DDs one by one, including my DD

granted he must be a very good CV to focus DDs and be able to cross drop them and kill them 1 by 1, but it should NOT BE THIS WAY


>These people breath the same air as you
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>>161280439
gib spess port

Or is it aslains?
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>>161280439
that's why she can't walk
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>>161280502
yamato is trash. based grosser kurfurst eats it for breakfast
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>>161280242
How are these lesser "ships" going to cit her when their own citpussies were pounded multiple times by 18" shells before they could even get in range?
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>>161280489
They get to be represented in the other branches of government. I dont see the fucking problem.
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>>161280439
>Warspite is fat
>Brits are fat

"Next week on shit that everybody knows..."
>>
so on christmas are all ships getting blocked so we can only use Fuso?
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>>161280584
>moves from voting to other legislature
>receives NO aspect of voting representation

8 million people in NYC gets to tell the rest of NY (all 51 counties) how to operate despite NYC producing nothing of value
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>>161280487
And that's what are fucking country is, don't like it leave, and if you don't live here never come here.
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>>161280562
Only to people who can't angle or need hydro to dodge torps.
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>>161280487
>they don't follow my ideas of how to run a country
thats pretty much text book bigotry on your part
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>>161280357
>WE ALREADY HAVE THAT YOU FUCKING FUCK
Please don't get angry because you don't understand. Just do a bit of reading on proportional representation and return to the discussion when you're done.
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>>161280562
>tfw farming GrossGermanys for damage because they're mostly idiots who sail around broadside on because 'M-Muh turtleback"
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>>161280531
California can bite my ass for all I care, they want to force their shitty laws, regulations, and lifestyles on the rest of the country that never asked for it in the first place. It can't sink into the Pacific any faster can it.
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>>161280562
damn thing steer like rock
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>>161280786
You don't know shit

with a proportional representation (like in the house of reps) the "majortiy" are the same minorities that out pace the voting population of all the city dwellers vs farm folk.

You want direct democracy but forget the representation (already in place) via legislature already out paces the majority that would vote opposite. Thats why the house of reps is mostly republican now even though the population is mostly democratic. Same with the state representatives
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>>161280643
>No consumables
>No scout plane
>Fusou only
>Ocean

I'd play it.
>>
Jesus christ can you fucking STOP?

>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

Every god-damn fucking thread for the past few months I've seen the same 5 Yamato pictures posted OVER and OVER again, with the same filename and presumably by the same fucking people.
There is nothing special about Yamato, her seiyuu is trash, she is not the first humanized representation of the battleship itself, she is not the first or representative of the yamato nadeshiko genre and she is literally nothing special anymore, be it ingame, in other franchises or even IRL
Reminder to report, filter and ignore such posts
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Outta my way, most mediocre of the Big Seven coming through!
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>>161280779
the kurfurst does need hydro to dodge torps

>1050m turning circle
>313m long
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>mfw there are "people" who live in countries that HAVEN'T put a man on the moon
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>>161280882
I will keep reminding you of this post every time >>161279876
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>Defeat
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>>161280882
Stop. It's clear that you haven't figured out what proportional representation is (no, it is not sufficient that each representative is elected by approximately the same amount of people). I won't reply again until it's clear that you've figured it out.
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>>161280689
Yes. That's how it should work. The majority of people who's lives are are going to be affected should decide who leads the fucking country.

This bullshit about the rest of the country being held hostage is fucking nonsense. At any scale in a democracy that's going to be the fucking case, that's the idea. The majority rules. The majority decides who leads them. Not the minority.
>>
>people bitch that they want a direct democracy
>still lose elections when they get it
>house of reps is republican, even though republicans are in minority because they're proportionally distributed across states
>senate is republican because states rights matter too (and lib tards keep pretending they don't exist). Then the president (voted in by a representative democracy) wins the election and reinforces those branches like wise.

>libtards STILL butt furious they are now the minority, demanding representation, getting it then losing anyway.

>>161281120
I think you quoted the wrong person I agreed with you.
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>>161280925
They need to add some sort of drydock view to the port. Would be great to see all the ships' red bits whenever you wanted.

LEWDNESS INTENSIFIES
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>>161281259
Oh shit, my mistake anon, carry on
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>>161281213
>The house of representatives (elected directly by the people) is proportionally distributed across the population of the state
>NO YOU NEED PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION
>we already have it, its called house of reps
>NO YOU DONT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>161281220
>he still doesn't understand how america works

People are not inherently equal. The footings that the countryfolk live in is NOT equal at all to the footing of city dwellers. They are NOT inherently equal despite the law giving them equal rights and you completely forget this imbalance and why the representation (already in place) exists
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Thats not REAL thicc!
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>>161281183
.45 ACP plz
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WG should just make torps really weak, then decrease their massive ass reload times so they get more consistent damage
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Ay I need a ref code NA West hook it up pls also I used to play world of tanks protips for a noob
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>>161281474
THIS is REAL thicc!
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>>161281578
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/AD735Em
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>mfw I introduced the term "Tyranny of the Majority" to the thread yesterday
>mfw I can understand why the US election system is one of the best in the world
>mfw I triggered """"""democracy"""""" fags
>mfw I'm Australian
Why are people so naive as to believe everyone's vote should have the same value?
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>>161281624
ty
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>>161281635
Happens all the time at work

>they should get rid of the electoral college
>ok and do what?
>get direct democracy
>you realize a direct democracy would still yield a republican house, senate and presidency
And their minds are blown at these simple facts all because they didn't get their way.
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>>161281635
god why is Australia so woke

truly our greatest allies in the meme war
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>>161281402
>>161281635
The people's votes should be inherently equal when determining the president. Or most anything. We aren't the mostly uneducated rural society America was when this bullshit was set up.
>>161281772
>and presidency
nyet
>>
>a britcuck whose "democracy" enables SNP to get virtually no votes and obtain 53 seats while UKIP gets a majority of votes but only 2 seats, tries to tell americans how their democracy should work
>>
>>161281578
>>161281720
As for protips:
1) That white ribbon that moves when you have torpedos loaded is a lead indicator. This should be obvious, but a lot of people seem to miss it. It is only effective assuming the target moves at its current bearing in a straight line, and as such is more a general guideline.
2) IJN DDs are the best DDs to learn torping, since they're pretty forgiving at low tiers. Learn your concealment early on.
3) Aim AP at broadside waterlines if you're pretty sure you can penetrate (BBs vs. anything, CAs vs. other CAs). If you're not sure or you know it can't, shoot AP at broadside superstructure, or shoot HE at superstructure if angled.
4) Most cruisers and some BBs have prows that are overmatched by BB guns that they face. When angling in a cruiser, try to show your side armor at a steep angle instead of moving straight forwards.
5) The lower the speed, the tighter your turn radius but the slower the turn rate. Changing these while evading shells increases your unpredictability by a lot.
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>>161281998
>>and presidency
>nyet
If a direct democracy was in place, some 3 million votes and some 75 million votes would be in trumps favor right out the bat from NY and California respectively.

Think about it. Electoral college enables NY and California to go blue which means trump voters get no say in the election in those states. Get rid of it and you equalize the playing field.
>>
Tbh the electoral college should remain, but states should distribute its electoral votes proportionally.
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>>161282205
they are distributed proportionally based on population
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gee it's almost like maybe the founding fathers were smarter than a bunch of yuros that spend their time criticizing a far more successful country
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>>161282273
No they don't, only Maine and Nebraska distribute their allotted electoral votes in a remotely proportional fashion. The rest is Winner Take All.
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>>161282387
>No they don't, only Maine and Nebraska distribute their allotted electoral votes in a remotely proportional fashion. The rest is Winner Take All.
Because Voting is not strictly defined under the constitution as to how to count. So any power explicitly given to the federal government is reserved for the states. The states get to choose how voting can be done.

Other than that electoral votes ARE distributed across the US based on proportion. Each state gets a certain number based on their proportion of population.
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>>161281474
like a hamburger!
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>>161282573
>Because Voting is not strictly defined under the constitution as to how to count. So any power explicitly given to the federal government is reserved for the states. The states get to choose how voting can be done.
Yes, yes, I am aware, I am simply saying how I think things should be, not how it will be or even whether it's remotely feasible.
>Other than that electoral votes ARE distributed across the US based on proportion. Each state gets a certain number based on their proportion of population.
I am aware. Though technically the minimum amount of votes each state has makes the distribution slightly less than proportional. I believe that should remain, however.
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>>161281998
>We aren't the mostly uneducated rural society America was when this bullshit was set up.
You really shouldn't keep denouncing your farmers and other workers as dumb and dumber compared to city-dwellers.
The reason America has so much power is not just because it has the technology, but it owns the means of production.
I don't know what you think of them, but farming (managing and operating) today is not an intellectually-light occupation (source: I took 4 years of mandatory agriculture through high school). It takes a lot of thought to become as efficient and productive as today's farmers, and your entire country is sustained on that production.
>>
Millennials are a bunch of whiny cucks
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>>161282791
It's not farming that people should be worried about. The people that truly got cucked were/are the ones who are in manufacturing. Some of those jobs got shipped overseas, but most of those jobs were replaced by robots. That is the consequence of advancing technology, which no amount of tariffs will undo. The fact of the matter is that unskilled labor has long since been nonviable as a career option, and neither a Republican or Democratic political body can change that.

tl;dr: Rust Belt was, is, and will continue to be fucked. Coal Country does not look to fare much better.

F

How 'bout dem botes?
>>
seriously if we're not even speaking about botes this thread might as well be ded
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>tfw your torps actually find their way inside a smoke cloud with 4 enemy ships.
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>>161282943
F R E E D O M
R
E
E
D
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M
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>>161283576
>tfw you accidentally send torpedoes and actually sink something

also

>tfw you torpedo a battleship at close range and an enemy destroyer tries to close range torp you but misses and you manage to sink that fucker too
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>>161283701
>tfw you send torps into a DD's smoke cloud, land a couple of hits, and after a few seconds, a BB and CA are flooding to death
It's like Christmas.
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>hotel
>Iowa
>not useless
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>>161283670
>tfw don't feel like doing it hard, but don't want to miss out on the equipment
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>>161283796
>it's like Fuso
ftfy
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what's the referral code for the WOW NA server?
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>>161284269
blizzard.com/invite/nobotesallowed
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>>161284269
http://playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/g2GxpPb
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>>161282791
I agree with you, 4 year bachelor degree in Agribusiness/Science, it takes a lot to be efficient in terms of financial and agronomy. It is a very stressful job, not for the faint of heart in any regards. Look up the suicide rates of farmers compared to other occupations.

All in all, if you can manage time and budget well, not be afraid of debt, have a good sense of the commodity market, and have access to some land to start out on, it's not too difficult. But even for the seasoned operators times can be demanding, last two years have been hell in my area due to messed up weather patterns, I know of some farms that haven't been planted due to intense rainfall for the last two years. This year wasn't much better either.

Blog off

t. Third Generation farmer
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>>161284086
Just started doing hard myself
Tbh the whole dubuffing process looks more annoying then the actually clearing the map.
>Pudding taiha at node B, first sortie
How nice, this is sure to forecast my time wit this map.
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>>161284023
what game is this?
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SlayMad
Stark23
TeutonicTanker
Th3Shrike
Tsangdhori
Umbersun
USSDONALDJTRUMP
VOTETRUMP2016
XavierCross
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>>161284787
KancerColle

Play it, it's pretty fun.
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>>161284818
Who /team2/ here? Team 1 can suck a dick.
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>>161284641
To be honest, I've been losing interest in going hard in kancolle lately. But after 2 years doing events with /jp/ there's a part of me that scolds myself for even considering doing anything but hard.
I just want Sara and Baguettebote ;__;
>>
3
300ConfirmedKills
Arlios
Balki_
Brake
chain_chomp
Dataman1
DoloresUmbridge
DrGarantia
F22xRaptor
Fubuki_swimsuit_dream
HP_Lovesauce
KancolleWasAMistake
LordMotochika
MOA_WINGS
Morriak
MoshEvo
Pataevian
phans
pinkpalmtreeman
Playingona_gtx980
Precisionista
Raikoho_
rapier_ape
SmashPatriarchy
SunSkaRe
themaltaproject
True_Neutral
wadech
whyowa
xxPhoenix006

4
Abrach
AbrudolfLincler
Brenzen
Check_Your_Privilege
CloneTrooper174
crazyjoe1337
GarmaVonDetroit
GregL385
Halykun
Hangheld_Pig
Hildebrand44
Hotel_a_QT
Iris_heart
jujuham
Kittykami
Luis_Almirante_Brown
MoriartyHolmes
NebukadnezarIV
OneEyedMan
Paradichlorobenzene
purposly
RolySproly
Smashy
Snoozing_Mako
snst
Trollhammer
Trumpetteer
ZeroWolf01k
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>>161284818
>>161284937
???
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>>161284990
It's my kill on sight list
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>>161284919
You better get started soon m8. Event ends in like 9 days and E-4 is a real roadblock, you might not have the time left to do E-5.
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>>161284990
There are 30 names in each, so I'm guessing he's seeing how many clans could /wowsg/ make.
>>
>>161284937
Team 4 has got this in the bag
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>>161285302
Doesn't look like he too server distribution into account though.
SEA and EU will probably only ever have 1 each, while NA easily fills up 2 and maybe then some.
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>>161285302
We have BOTES

What would we name the other three?
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>>161284937
team 4 is stacked as fuck
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>>161285302
But they don't even all come from the same server.
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>>161285525
KUMA for all true and loyal wowsg
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>>161285528
>>161285353
Team 4 > Team 1 > Team 3 > Team 2
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>>161285567
>>161285523
I know, but what else would you be doing with a list of 30 /wowsg/s?
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>>161285569
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>>161285592
pls no bully team 2

Haruna pls carry
>>
>You are now imagining a 30 v 30 match in wows

How chaotic is it?
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>>161285895
Pointless and boring, 30v30 means literally infinite smoke and radar so engagements happen at near maximum CA range, and assuming one CV per 10 players, they still won't have enough planes to make it through AA
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>>161285757
>asking an autistic sperg from Reddit to carry

Yeah he'll do it from the blue line
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>>161285895
Whichever team with raptor in it will neither win nor lose, match will end in a ramming draw
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>>161285895

A 30v30 BB only match with a 5 tier spread would be really cool, you'd eventually get good people organizing focus fire targets and formations.
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>>161286386
>A 30v30 BB only match with a 5 tier spread
I would only play this if it were night battles.
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>>161286542
>Pitch dark
>Only mini map for navigation
>Turn that spotlight on at your own peril

Why won't WG let us know this fun?
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>>161286736
pls wargaming
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>>161286736
It would be hilarious if you were on an Akatsuki shining your spotlight on an Atlanta.
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>>161284937
>on a team with Arlios and Raptor
>haven't watched either of their streams/videos/whatever
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>>161286736
They could probably implement it as a variant of cyclone mode without CVs. Replace the AA toggle button with a toggle searchlight button, and maybe add star shells as an ammunition option.

The big issue is how they'd implement the searchlight. In real life everyone would immediately spot you if you turned on your spotlight, so in-game nobody would ever turn on their spotlights if that were the same, because nobody would ever want to be sent to port for somebody else's sakes.
>>
>>161287537
Maybe make it so apart from being extremely dark and almost impossible to navigate, also making it so you can't see which team they're on unless you shine the spotlight on them.
>>
>>161287537
Just make spotlight show for everyone, even if they were not detected. It's like firing shells while invisible or inside smoke.

Spotlight can als be used on DDs as bait. Multiple DDs could go to one flank and act like there are ships there while the others go around to the other side and do their stuffs. This is also if star shells have limited range.
>>
The thread is less active when you guys aren't arguing over dumb shit.
>>
Perth is a good bote
>>
>>161288905
It's peaceful desu.
>>
>>161288912
Perth is a shithole
>>
>>161289119
>Perth is a good bote
>Perth is a shithole

Both are true.
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goodnight /wowsg/
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I'll admit, this one made me laugh
>>
>>161289303
It's 1pm
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>>161289517
In the Land of the Free it's 11:12 pm CST
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>>161289743
And the land of the free causes drama that makes the rest of the world laugh at their incompetency.
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>>161289743
It's 5:19 am in the land of tea and bongs
Why am I still awake, I have no reason to be!
>>
>>161289394
*give gold and tip fedora*
>>
>>161289743
it's 9:21 pm in the land of illegal aliens and tacos
>>
>>161290159
are you in london too?
>>
>>161290256
No, I'm in San Antonio and it's 11:22 pm
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>>161290195
>mfw we picked up two super unicums and an unicum from this
tho im gonna kick their asses if they start acting like reddit cucks
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>>161290293
Nope, near Liverpool
>>
>>161290139
Comes with being relevant

You wouldn't understand
>>
>>161290415
Hello anon! How are you! I'm using exclamation points! Unfortunately I'm on phone right now, so I don't have any Nepgear images! This is the best I can do, hope you don't mind!
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>>161291462
This bullies the Mosh
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This a better option than the Armada package?
>>
>not going in
>>
>>161295618
lol, 50% citadel rate
>>
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Duck hunting is not going well
They're going to be in 5.15 right? When are the Kraut DDs coming? 5.18?
>>
>>161297057
>They're going to be in 5.15 right?
Probably, yes.
>>
>>161297096
>Filled up my port with trash so I get some free slots
I wish they'd hurry up.
>>
>>161297686
I wish I'd bought Fujin when it was on sale ;_;
>>
>>161298103
but goy, it's on sale now in conveniently priced bundles!
>>
Why do DDs get the worst MM?
>>
>>161298172
Greatest ally, please sprinkle some of your kindness on the EU server.
>>
>>161298202
Because they're the most influential class.
>>
>>161298202
>same matchmaking as everyone else
>only real downside is that higher tier DDs can be invisible and spot you
Meanwhile they don't have to worry at all about armor. Fires always do the same damage, torpedoes are always strong, and enemy DDs still made of papier-mache. The majority of your kit remains just as effective no matter where you're placed. DDs are the only ship I feel equally comfortable being uptiered in, so long as it isn't a DD heavy match.
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>>
liawerhjkawgefjw
>>
ded
>>
>>161299514
Глaвнoe yпpaвлeниe иcпpaвитeльнo-тpyдoвых лaгepeй и кoлoний)))))))))))))
>>
Who would win an an arm wrestle?

>Mosh vs Umi
>Iri vs Evelyn
>Raptor vs Anumati
>>
>>161302636
Evelyn is a fat neckbeard pretending to be a girl and stalking players from here.
>>
>>161302636
Umi
Eve
Anu
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When the pussy ass Iowa is so scared of your Amagi you have to chase him half the map.
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>>161295889
Anon that's 33%
>>
>>161302636
Umi
Eve
Anutist
>>
>>161303276
>>161303473
Don't bully Mosh!
>>
Out of these people, who would win the 100m sprint?

>wavecave
>sniping_mango
>luger
>raptor
>boog
>>
>>161303872
I can only tell you that Mako will definitely score 1st place if you make the finishing line blue
>>
>>161303872
Mako because he fights for his life everyday as a straya
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>>161303927
>>161303938
How can Mako even recover from that bantz?
>>
>>161303872
Boog is a much better player than Raptor and Luger, why did you put him below those two?
>>
Abandon thread.

and please in the next thread lets have more boats discussion and less about why US system is (il)logical
>>
>>161304157
It's not in order of player skill, duh. It's completely arbitrary
>>
>>161304314
If you put Boog above Luger and Raptor, it'd appear you made the list in order of player skill. Are you backpedaling faggot?
>>
>>161303872
>misspells wave
>doesn't provide full name of "luger", "raptor" and "boog"

You can do better than this, Benis.
>>
Out of those people who will suicide first?

(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
>>
>>161305325
(me)
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>>161304229
USA IS BEST NATION HAS BEST BRESIDENT AND BEST BOTES USA USA USA
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>>161305408
i'm mexican and i disagree
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>>161302636
>>161303276
>>161303473
>>
>>161305687
Don't you fancy submission?
>>
>>161305687
Hey! Bully time!

>>161291462
>>
>>161291462
This post screams "I'm MOSH! COME BULLY ME!!!!!!!!!" to me, is that normal?
>>
New bread where?
>>
>>161306487
>>161306547
Bullying is bad and not justified in most cases; that depends on the attitude of the one bullied.
>>
771 replies.
Still no new bread
>>
>>161305553

Mexicans are subhumans anyway.
>>
>>161307006
funposter here

im on my phone. if i werent we would have another anymai maymay op again.

you do it
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Next OP image.
Do it.
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>>161306487
>>161305752
>>161306547
Bullying is bad!
>>
>>161307532
fine give me 5 min
>>
new fun posting channel

>>161308006
>>161308006
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>>161302636
>>161303276
>>161303473
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